It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: trapeze on May 03, 2011, 01:11:58 AM
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Why?
Because, obviously, they are a fairly large demographic and they need to be served. I am referring, of course, to Coast To Coast AM (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/) with (now) host George Noory.
Yes, sadly, there are about 4.5 million very confused and/or mentally challenged people who subscribe to the anti-Occam's Razor system of belief in the most convoluted, complicated and least likely explanation for every day occurrences.
I stumbled across the show again (I had previously heard it when it was hosted by Art Bell) when I was driving late at night recently. XM Radio is a mixed blessing at times. Like with keeping Air America on the air. Coast To Coast is another such venue except it it tailored to the demonstrably weak minded.
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_to_Coast_AM) lists the show thusly:
[blockquote]Coast to Coast AM covers unusual topics and is full of personal stories related to callers. While program content varies, most nights are focused on paranormal and pseudoscientific subjects such as the occult, remote viewing, hauntings, shadow people, psychic reading, metaphysics, conspiracy theories, UFOs, crop circles, cryptozoology, the Hollow Earth hypothesis, and science fiction literature, among others. Since the September 11, 2001 attacks, the events of that day (as well as alternate theories surrounding them) and current U.S. counter-terrorism strategy have also become frequent themes. George Noory also takes interest in the 2012 phenomenon and believes something will happen.[/blockquote]
The Truther Radio Network. Go figure.
Some of this crap I've never heard of. But a lot of it I have. Sometimes under the worst possible circumstances. Like when you are trapped in a car with one of these conspiracy nuts during a long trip. Or at a party and they try and convince you even when you make it clear you think they are nuts...they think of you as a challenge and pester you in an attempt to help you see the light about whatever particular bit of insane nonsense they are peddling.
And when that happens you ask yourself, "Where on earth do these idiots get this crap?" And then you remember Coast To Coast and it's obvious. It's the talk radio network for the insane.
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XM radio is a mixed blessing -- during the day I get Hannity ::snort::, Beck and Jason Lewis on FM radio broadcast at, or close to, the same time as XM. What's the point?
At night, it's Coast to Coast or Rolleye James. Ugh.
I used to listen to Coast to Coast out of pure desperation for something with which to fall asleep, but I've found podcasts to be much better. I just wish I was aware of a few better choices to download other than The Warroom. Levin's first hour is pretty good, mostly monologue; after that he mostly insults callers.
Got any suggestions?
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I have the same reaction to Levin's show. Sometimes I think he's too abrupt with callers, but most of the time they're just cringe-worthy in their banality and for some reason they always start talking while he's answering them. When playing the podcast, I skip past the callers most of the time. His monologues are usually excellent.
I don't have the patience for Hannity anymore. I don't know, he's just formulaic and as we've discussed on here before, a bit of a lightweight. I more or less accepted that's just how he is and that there's a place for his style, but when he started espousing the "(if you do this particular thing that Muslims don't like) you're endangering the troops" argument I decided I'd heard about enough from him.
Rush is still the top dog overall IMO.
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Trap ... I'm surprised that it took you so long to feature a thread on Coast to Coast . I'm usually up around 0330 and I have my radio tuned to the FOX affiliate here but until 0500 it's Noory and his myriad parade of whack-job pseudo-scientists and conspiracy theorists ( ex. Alex Jones ) . I used to think it was funny , listening to the bone-headed callers to Art Bell and Noory but it eventually became depressing when it was finally evident how many really stupid and gullible people are out there in the dark . Then it just plain made me mad at the manner in which Noory feeds the fears and suspicions of his audience . What a sh*t-head !
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I like C2C ::confused::
Not evey night. There are some real whack jobs
It seems I end up listening to one about every week to 10 days
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Trap ... I'm surprised that it took you so long to feature a thread on Coast to Coast . I'm usually up around 0330 and I have my radio tuned to the FOX affiliate here but until 0500 it's Noory and his myriad parade of whack-job pseudo-scientists and conspiracy theorists ( ex. Alex Jones ) . I used to think it was funny , listening to the bone-headed callers to Art Bell and Noory but it eventually became depressing when it was finally evident how many really stupid and gullible people are out there in the dark . Then it just plain made me mad at the manner in which Noory feeds the fears and suspicions of his audience . What a sh*t-head !
Heh, the fact that people can so fricken stupid never stopped me from laughing at their expense! I used to listen to this crap back in the day when I would be helping my B.I.L. plow snow. Caffeine, tobacco and C2C in the dead of night plowing like a demon...what fun!
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Fortunately, I've never heard C2C. It's enough to hear them on Michael Medved's "conspiracy day".
They're sad people in a way--they desperately want to be significant so they latch on to a belief that makes them feel unique and insightful. But that doesn't mean I want to be around them!
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I used to think it was funny , listening to the bone-headed callers to Art Bell and Noory but it eventually became depressing when it was finally evident how many really stupid and gullible people are out there in the dark .
With any luck, they only come out at night.
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I listen to C2C once a month on my way to work. Mainly just for amusement. If I listen too long, I tend to pull out my tin foil hat.
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As a kid I was always fascinated by the paranormal. Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman, Chupacabra, Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda Triangle, aliens/UFOs, ESP, telekinesis, ghosts/spirits/demons, witchcraft/sorcery/magic, vampires/werewolves/zombies, etc, etc, etc.... I absolutely loved The Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, Karl Kolchak, etc. As a young man, the X-Files was among my favorite shows.
So imagine my delight one late night many years ago when I found Art Bell and Coast to Coast AM. "East of the Rockies, you're on Coast to Coast AM." I was always fascinated and sucked into the "what-if" possibilities. Even when the subject matter seemed completely outrageous, Art Bell always seemed to take it seriously enough to make me ever-so-slightly doubt my skepticism. There was something about the sound of the show coupled with the hour of its airing and listening to it on an empty highway that just hit me exactly right. When Bell said he was in real-life mortal danger because of the things he was "revealing", I wondered if he just might be telling the truth. I didn't actually full-on believe any of the topics of the show, but the possibilities were always tantalizing to me - on some things like "remote viewing" my mind was open - but regardless of my belief level, the show fed my lifelong boyish interest in the paranormal.
During the last several years of his tenure on the show (late 90s / early 2000s), I noticed a change. I don't know if it was me changing, or Bell. But I began to hear in his voice many instances where it seemed obvious to me that he didn't believe what he was saying. Many instances of him treating a guest seriously in words, but with a tone of condescension, patronizing, or disbelief in his voice. I still listened from time to time (usually on weekend nights on the way home from gigs), but I found it increasingly ridiculous.
One night, I heard him talking to a guy who said something to effect of, "The hooded monk creatures were far more influential than the lizard people." Art Bell treated this man seriously in words, but with disdain dripping from his voice. At that point I think it dawned on me that it was all complete shtick - utter BS peddled for ratings - and that Art Bell likely didn't even believe any of it himself. All that time, I at least thought I was listening to someone who believed what he was saying, whether it was real or not.
Then Noory took over and that was the end of it for me. It's still entertaining to listen to the late-night reruns of the old Art Bell C2C AM shows from the late 90s every once in a while if I happen to be in the car late at night driving on some dark road...
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Well...let me tell you...I've seen Bigfoot.
Oh sorry, it is a pic of michelle.
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Just because you are overly paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.
I try to keep an open mind. I don't believe in any of it, but yeah, I have friends who are convinced the Flouride in the water is there to make us dumb ( and looking at the American populace, is it that far-fetched?) and others who are firm believers in the NWO\Bilderburg\Illuminati World Domination\World depopulation\mind control mega conspiracy. It doesn't matter anyway - if they are right about those things there is nothing we can do to fight it at this point.
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Just because you are overly paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.
I try to keep an open mind. I don't believe in any of it, but yeah, I have friends who are convinced the Flouride in the water is there to make us dumb ( and looking at the American populace, is it that far-fetched?) and others who are firm believers in the NWO\Bilderburg\Illuminati World Domination\World depopulation\mind control mega conspiracy. It doesn't matter anyway - if they are right about those things there is nothing we can do to fight it at this point.
::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing:: ::laughonfloor:: ::laughonfloor:: ::laughonfloor:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
Overly paranoid.....not after you.....That is funny right there, I don't care who you are....
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Taking advantage of the clearly delusional is sick. And from what I have read, toward the end of his tenure, Art Bell was doing just that...as IDP has indicated. Noory, on the other hand, seems to be a true believer in some, if not all, of this crap.
I remember, as a child, reading stuff on UFO's and the Bermuda triangle and stuff like that. For a child, it was interesting and the fact that the stuff was published in actual books lent some credence to it. But then I grew up. I was educated in logic and critical thinking. Not as much as I should have been but enough to ask questions rather than accept whatever crap was being shoveled by whichever media outlet I was currently plugged in to.
The generous application of Occam's Razor and the judicious application of the Sherlock Holmes saying (eliminate the impossible and whatever remains however improbable is the answer) is usually enough to get to the bottom of most puzzles. But there is an apparently very large demographic out there who feel the need to apply an Anti-Occam's Razor to things which the find puzzling.
I have known since I was a child that jet aircraft leave behind a water vapor contrail in the upper atmosphere. Who knew that there were people out there who are absolutely convinced that those white streaks in the sky are chemicals used to control the minds of the population? And they cannot be convinced otherwise. No. The simplest and correct explanation is not enough for them. They have to have a government conspiracy.
The X-Files for some people are real. And for them Coast To Coast AM is the one thing in the media that they can believe. Their world is a very confusing and complicated place...wheels within wheels within wheels that ordinary humans cannot possibly comprehend where there are thousands of layers of secrecy in a grand conspiracy.
There are certain aspects of other shows (like, say, Oprah) that also feed this nonsense but Coast To Coast AM delivers nothing other than full time illogic, delusion and paranoia and does so in a way that makes it all the more real for their demented listeners*.
*I do not include those who occasionally listen for amusement or who accidentally stumble across the show and listen in much the same way that one would drive slowly past an auto accident.
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The common characteristic of the kooky Late Nighters is the way they laugh at you, you know, like you are the insane one. I would say condescendingly delusional. BlueBoy like.
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What I hate is when people insist the little gray aliens come from Alpha Centauri. What morons! Everybody knows they're from Alpha Proxima. Geez, this is elementary stuff.
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As a kid I was always fascinated by the paranormal. Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman, Chupacabra, Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda Triangle, aliens/UFOs, ESP, telekinesis, ghosts/spirits/demons, witchcraft/sorcery/magic, vampires/werewolves/zombies, etc, etc, etc.... I absolutely loved The Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, Karl Kolchak, etc. As a young man, the X-Files was among my favorite shows.
So imagine my delight one late night many years ago when I found Art Bell and Coast to Coast AM. "East of the Rockies, you're on Coast to Coast AM." I was always fascinated and sucked into the "what-if" possibilities. Even when the subject matter seemed completely outrageous, Art Bell always seemed to take it seriously enough to make me ever-so-slightly doubt my skepticism. There was something about the sound of the show coupled with the hour of its airing and listening to it on an empty highway that just hit me exactly right. When Bell said he was in real-life mortal danger because of the things he was "revealing", I wondered if he just might be telling the truth. I didn't actually full-on believe any of the topics of the show, but the possibilities were always tantalizing to me - on some things like "remote viewing" my mind was open - but regardless of my belief level, the show fed my lifelong boyish interest in the paranormal.
During the last several years of his tenure on the show (late 90s / early 2000s), I noticed a change. I don't know if it was me changing, or Bell. But I began to hear in his voice many instances where it seemed obvious to me that he didn't believe what he was saying. Many instances of him treating a guest seriously in words, but with a tone of condescension, patronizing, or disbelief in his voice. I still listened from time to time (usually on weekend nights on the way home from gigs), but I found it increasingly ridiculous.
One night, I heard him talking to a guy who said something to effect of, "The hooded monk creatures were far more influential than the lizard people." Art Bell treated this man seriously in words, but with disdain dripping from his voice. At that point I think it dawned on me that it was all complete shtick - utter BS peddled for ratings - and that Art Bell likely didn't even believe any of it himself. All that time, I at least thought I was listening to someone who believed what he was saying, whether it was real or not.
Then Noory took over and that was the end of it for me. It's still entertaining to listen to the late-night reruns of the old Art Bell C2C AM shows from the late 90s every once in a while if I happen to be in the car late at night driving on some dark road...
OMG, remember that boob from last election..."don't blame me, I voted for Lizard people"?!
They walk among us!
::exitstageleft::
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Of course, the plus side of the Noory disciples is they sleep during the day.
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Yeah, but that means they are creeping around while you sleep.
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Why is it that Space Aliens interested in acquiring good specimens of earthly humanity keep picking on Noory's audience ? All they're going to come away with is one hell of a fvcked up opinion of the human race ! ::whatgives::
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Why is it that Space Aliens interested in acquiring good specimens of earthly humanity keep picking on Noory's audience ? All they're going to come away with is one hell of a fvcked up opinion of the human race ! ::whatgives::
Well..can you imagine if they started at the White House?
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Yeah, but that means they are creeping around while you sleep.
Probably one good reason why I don't sleep well at night. ::foilhathelicopter::
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Hey now at 3-4am headed to a Duck blind there is nothing better or funnier than Coast to Coast. ::foilhathelicopter::
And talk about a conversation starter with your kids I think it is great. ::thinking::
As far as the mentally challenged ah is there really any help? ::exitstageleft::
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As far as the mentally challenged ah is there really any help? ::exitstageleft::
Perhaps not but it isn't right to exploit idiots for profit. Nor is it right to encourage them in their delusions.
Most of these knuckleheads are harmless but egging them on can't be helpful.
(Dr.) Judy Wood (http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/bio/Wood_Bio.html) is an example of one of their guests. She was an assistant prof of mechanical engineering at Clemson before (apparently) getting the boot for her nuttiness over 9/11. She has, of course, written a book (http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Evidence-Directed-Free-energy-Technology/dp/0615412564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304483139&sr=8-1) that claims that the towers came down by way of "directed energy technology." So...she would have us believe that some mysterious person(s) used some new technology to purposefully disintegrate the towers which coincidentally had two separate jets fly into them just before this weapon was activated. Pure craziness. And this show gives her a platform to draw more weak minded and mentally ill people into her delusion. The comments at the Amazon link are fawning.
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But Trap, Right Wing Radio is the only truly destructive force on the air waves, C2C is moobat central, so preying on the weak-minded gives them a free pass to encourage and reward people for their psychosis!
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::facepalm::
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True story. You guys have heard me speak of my hippie little brother from time to time. He is a kind, sweet, gentle man with a good, giving heart and soul. I love him beyond words. But he also smokes weed all day every day, and he's 38 years old. Just married, no kids, wife smokes like he does. They fancy themselves as some kind of mystical beings - humans who have brought themselves in touch with the true potential of human mental and spiritual existence that most ordinary people sadly never recognize. This mental and spiritual acuity and self-actualization brings them into harmony with the universe. Or sumpt'n.
Several years ago before they were married, my bro and his girlfriend traveled by car cross country to visit us in MN. They got pulled over for speeding in South Dakota. As they related the tale, they had a pound of weed in a cooler in the trunk, and when the cop asked if he could see what was in the trunk, they both used their "energy" to place a mental bubble around the cooler. And wouldn't you know it, the cop looked in the trunk, but he never looked inside the cooler. They were both ecstatic that they were finally able to really test their "technique".
I don't know if they listen to Coast to Coast or not. But they are both very personable people, and true believers in their bullsh*t. Perhaps they would make good guests for the program.
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Wow, that must be some good sh*t!
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. . . they both used their "energy" to place a mental bubble around the cooler. And wouldn't you know it, the cop looked in the trunk, but he never looked inside the cooler. They were both ecstatic that they were finally able to really test their "technique".
Bless their little hearts. Some say God protects children, fools and drunks.
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I try to keep an open mind. I don't believe in any of it, but yeah, I have friends who are convinced the Flouride in the water is there to make us dumb
Actually, that is the responsibility of the NEA.
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I try to keep an open mind. I don't believe in any of it, but yeah, I have friends who are convinced the Flouride in the water is there to make us dumb
Actually, that is the responsibility of the NEA.
The NEA put the fluoride in the water? I KNEW it!
::thinking::
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When i read the title of this thread, I thought that Al Franken was taking to the airwaves again.
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. . . they both used their "energy" to place a mental bubble around the cooler. And wouldn't you know it, the cop looked in the trunk, but he never looked inside the cooler. They were both ecstatic that they were finally able to really test their "technique".
Bless their little hearts. Some say God protects children, fools and drunks.
I don't have my Bible handy at the moment but I was thinking that it was widows and orphans who received special attention and that Proverbs has quite a few rather unkind things to say about fools. Drunks, where mentioned, don't make out too well either if I remember correctly.
Coast To Coast AM seems to be a magnet for fools.
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"The Disturbed, Unbalanced & Poorly Educated "
Not sure which applies to me since I enjoy C2C. Mostly for entertainment purposes.
I hav a collidge deegree
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::rimshot::
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Hey now at 3-4am headed to a Duck blind there is nothing better or funnier than Coast to Coast. ::foilhathelicopter::
And talk about a conversation starter with your kids I think it is great. ::thinking::
As far as the mentally challenged ah is there really any help? ::exitstageleft::
I've ran across it periodically as I head to the lake. Honestly, i've listened to a few calls where the caller seemed to be taking great delight in, oh, exaggerating the story.
And whats wrong with seeing a few black helicopters.....or a spaceship.....or transported between planets....or being abducted by aliens.....or questioning your gov't......
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And whats wrong with seeing a few black helicopters.....or a spaceship.....or transported between planets....or being abducted by aliens.....or questioning your gov't......
Several years back I awoke to a helicopter buzzing above my little neighborhood. It was midnight and it freaked me out. I didn't think it was aliens. I called the non-emergency number for the police. The man that answered the phone --instead of opting to be reassuring --got really annoyed with me for even asking what the heck is going on? Okay, he got annoyed after he told me it was nothing to be concerned about and I said I had a right to know why they were flying above my house.
Turns out they were searching for a elderly person who'd wandered from home.
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"The Disturbed, Unbalanced & Poorly Educated "
Not sure which applies to me since I enjoy C2C. Mostly for entertainment purposes.
I hav a collidge deegree
I'm among those who listen occasionally for entertainment purposes when I happen to be in the car late at night dial surfing. Nothing wrong with taking in a little absurdity and indulging the imagination. But as I stated before, I don't take anything they say seriously.
I'm definitely disturbed, a little unbalanced (depending on who you ask), and I gradumacated high school.
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Whaat?! You gots no collidge either?
We wuz wobbed. ::) ;)
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I deent go to colleege, but iz did gradeate frum the evelyn woodhead sped readin course.
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Whaat?! You gots no collidge either?
We wuz wobbed. ::) ;)
My folks offered a full free ride. They paid for 1st semester, and they said if I didn't fall below a bare minimum C average, they'd pay for the next semester.
But see, I was gonna be a rockstar. I had no interest or time for college. I wanted chicks and weed and beer and heavy metal and no responsibility.
I signed up for a full load, and proceeded to completely sabotage my grade every class. I didn't study, and mostly I didn't show up. Hey, it was school, and nobody was forcing me to go, so I didn't go.
I got my grades for the first semester, and managed a C- (A's in bowling and a 101 English class saved me from and F average). I failed all my other classes, and was put on academic probation.
My folks wanted me to have a college education so badly, they agreed to give me one more chance. I thanked them by skipping every class and waiting until after the cancellation deadline for refunded tuition, and dropped out.
I look back on what a pathetic little a-hole I was and I can hardly believe it. I made choices then that were utterly selfish and self-destructive. I robbed myself of opportunity. I robbed my parents of money and their dream of a college educated first-born son. As a middle aged man, I definitely feel the lack of a college education.
But at the same time I have no real regrets. I had a helluva lot more fun than people usually have, for a lot more years than people usually get before life has its way with them. My wonderful children and wife are the result of a life well-lived, and those years of poor choices are part of that life, so to regret it too deeply would be to regret what my life has become, and I cannot do that. It took me a while, and I went an extremely atypical route, but I am who I am now, and on balance, that's a good thing.
ETA: I did go back to get an audio production degree when I was 40 though.
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Obviously, I am not referring to the occasional listener. I am referring to the person who listens to C2C the way that conservatives tune in to Limbaugh or Levin. The believers. The serial non-skeptics. The people who P.T. Barnum made a living off of.
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Obviously, I am not referring to the occasional listener. I am referring to the person who listens to C2C the way that conservatives tune in to Limbaugh or Levin. The believers. The serial non-skeptics.
Oh c'mon now Trap, admit it. You're hammerin' on me, ain'tchya? ::beertoast::
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/b-Mulder-Scully-4757866b41bb-1.jpg)
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You know better than that.
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You know better than that.
Idunno. You were startin' to make me feel bad. Like maybe I AM stupid cuz I used to listen to Art Bell.
::pokeineye:: ::beertoast:: ::exitstageleft::
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You know better than that.
Idunno. You were startin' to make me feel bad. Like maybe I AM stupid cuz I used to listen to Art Bell.
::pokeineye:: ::beertoast:: ::exitstageleft::
*sigh* Okay, I give.
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You know better than that.
You're right I do.
::thumbsup:: ::beertoast:: ::angel::
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Really don't know why this C2C thing is bothering so many...I mean, according to thje mayan calender, after 2012 we will all be dead.
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You know better than that.
Idunno. You were startin' to make me feel bad. Like maybe I AM stupid cuz I used to listen to Art Bell.
::pokeineye:: ::beertoast:: ::exitstageleft::
If you can't listen to Art you have no sense of humor or a sense of what if .........
::hysterical::