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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2014, 08:59:26 AM »
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2014, 10:37:31 AM »
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!


And remember y'all, stopping flights from West Africa won't help prevent the spread of Ebola!  Except, you know, for 100% of all the known cases in the USA right now.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2014, 11:35:42 AM »
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!


And remember y'all, stopping flights from West Africa won't help prevent the spread of Ebola!  Except, you know, for 100% of all the known cases in the USA right now.

Yeah, but for Obola & the Progs, if an citizen gets it from an exalted contaminated migrant they must deserve it...they must be racists like those Neanderthals that want to keep the exalted contaminated migrants out of the country...

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2014, 05:26:12 PM »
Imagine how fast it will spread in NYC.   That city is just covered with filth that will only make it go around faster.....

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #244 on: October 28, 2014, 07:06:29 AM »
Yeah, there is prime breeding ground in most major metro areas...


And, lest we lose proper persepctive on thngs...



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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #245 on: October 28, 2014, 08:17:07 AM »
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #246 on: October 29, 2014, 11:45:52 AM »
It's not spreading fast enough to suit the Obola Regime, so...they intend to continue to violate the Constitution, pork the Congress, eff the hospitals and providers, rape the taxpayers...so they can intentionally bring in infected West African's under the auspices of "treatment".

Faaa-uccckk-inggg INSANE!!!

ETA - On the opposite side of the sanity scale...

Australia institutes travel ban to/from infected areas, showing more good sense than asshats like Prez Obola!

Another ETA - Back again to the insane...

This idiot nurse is just as stupid and selfish and disdainful of her neighbors as Duncan (Patient Zero) was!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #247 on: October 29, 2014, 04:57:56 PM »
She does "work" for the CDC doesn't she?   No wonder nobody there is complaining about the political correctness over science.

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #248 on: October 29, 2014, 05:03:32 PM »
She does "work" for the CDC doesn't she?   No wonder nobody there is complaining about the political correctness over science.

Worse, both the CDC and the current regime are avowing the PC *is* the science, as in "the science does not support" quarantining for the likes of Kaci the Special Snowflake, in an exact reversal of "the science does support" manmade global climate change.

Apparently, as with everything with the lunatics, the "science" either does or does not support whatever they want it to.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #249 on: October 30, 2014, 06:54:31 AM »
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #250 on: October 30, 2014, 12:12:05 PM »
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    Dr. [Bruce] Beutler, an American medical doctor and researcher, won the Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology in 2011 for his work researching the cellular subsystem of the body’s overall immune system — the part of it that defends the body from infection by other organisms, like Ebola.

    He is currently the Director of the Center for the Genetics of Host Defense at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas — the first U.S. city to treat an Ebola patient and also the first to watch one die from the virus. In an exclusive interview with NJ Advance Media, Beutler reviewed Christie’s new policy of mandatory quarantine for all health care workers exposed to Ebola, and declared: “I favor it.”

Dr. Beutler warned that quarantining and monitoring is a sound policy, not because it is clear that the potentially exposed are clearly infectious, but because their data is inconclusive and there are too few observed cases to know exactly how this disease transmits from host to host.

“It may not be absolutely true that those without symptoms can’t transmit the disease, because we don’t have the numbers to back that up,” Beutler said. “It could be people develop significant viremia [where viruses enter the bloodstream and gain access to the rest of the body], and become able to transmit the disease before they have a fever, even. People may have said that without symptoms you can’t transmit Ebola. I’m not sure about that being 100 percent true. There’s a lot of variation with viruses.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/science-nobel-prize-winning-doctor-backs-christies-quarantine-plan/

Ahem ......... http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/ebola-nurse-kaci-hickox-violates-quarantine-dares-you-to-do-something-about-it/
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #251 on: October 30, 2014, 12:24:23 PM »
Yes, that is all true.

And...as an early article I posted noted (that one about the UK research) some Ebola strains can live on surfaces up to 50 days!

So...quarrantine durations should, be extended to a couple months...that still may not be adequate if what Beutler fears comes to pass and the virus can be passed along without symptoms!

We, the U.S. (the Obama Regime especially!) is not even operating at minimally safe parameters!!!!!!

It is UN-sane!!!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #252 on: October 31, 2014, 09:24:31 PM »

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #253 on: October 31, 2014, 10:16:36 PM »
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The study shows that host genes influence which cells become infected and how much the virus replicates, said Professor Andrew Easton, a virologist at the University of Warwick, who was not part of the study.

"Most of these genes are involved in the very earliest stages of our immune response to infection," something that has also been seen with other viruses, he said in a statement.

Not just with viruses and not just infection, per se.  Tay-Sachs.  Sickle cell anemia.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #254 on: October 31, 2014, 11:33:13 PM »
Good News! Ebola is genetically targeted...

Draw your own conclusions...


So far the Westerners infected with Ebola have fared much better.  Now a lot of that is the quality of treatment available, but I've also wondered if genetics could play a role.  The effects of the Bubonic Plague are still evident in the genetics of people of European descent.  Basically, it killed so many people in the 1300s that the survivors were selected for their immune traits.  One interesting area of study is in the surface receptors of immune cells.  Approximately 10% of white people are essentially immune to HIV due to a variation of the degCCR5 gene.  I wonder if something similar figures into Ebola infection.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #255 on: November 01, 2014, 01:21:23 AM »
The thought about genetics of Westerners as compared to those in Africa is extremely interesting and worthy of research.

The problem, though, is that it is difficult to find people to study. No one in their right mind would willingly become infected and those that do become infected are dangerous to be around. Plus a lot of them die.

I am skeptical that Africans were not, like Europeans, subject to a plague epidemic or two in their distant past. Just because there is nothing documented (for obvious reasons) does not mean that a similar history did not occur.

But it is an interesting avenue of pursuit in unraveling the mystery of the disease.

A couple of articles of interest from, of all places, The New Yorker. I read the first one, The Obola Wars, perhaps a week or so ago and it is authored by Richard Preston (of The Hot Zone fame). In it he first describes how incredibly infectious Obola is and then how researchers are mapping its genetic mutations. Very interesting, though, is the second part of the article which describes in extreme detail how the Samaritan's Purse doctor and nurse were saved...the timeline from infection to being Obola-free. Probably the most comprehensive explanation of the events that can be found anywhere...

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At the ELWA hospital, Lance Plyler, with the drug now in his hands, agonized about whether he should give it to Writebol or to Brantly. He found some words in the Book of Esther: “Who knows whether you have come to the kingdom for such a time as this?” Writebol was extremely ill by now, but he found Brantly in surprisingly good condition, working on his laptop in bed. Brantly was more concerned about Writebol. “Give the drug to Nancy—I’ll be getting out of here in a couple of days,” he told Plyler. An evacuation jet had been ordered, and he was evidently thinking of that. Still, Plyler put off the decision. Another night passed.

On the morning of July 31st, Plyler went to see Nancy Writebol, and decided to give her the drug. She seemed close to the end stage of Ebola-virus disease; she had developed a sea of red spots and papules across her torso—signs of hemorrhages under the skin—and she was beginning to bleed internally. She could crash at any time: lose blood pressure, go into shock, and die. One of the bottles was taken out of the freezer, and Plyler had Writebol hold it in her armpit to defrost it.

Around seven o’clock that evening, Plyler went to Brantly’s house to see how he was doing. When he looked in the window, he was stunned. Brantly had abruptly gone into the end-stage decline. His eyes were sunken, his face was a gray mask, and he was breathing in irregular gasps. “A clinician knows the look,” Plyler told me later. “He was dying.” Brantly, a clinician himself, realized that he was on the verge of a breathing arrest. With no ventilators at the hospital, he wouldn’t make it through the night.

Plyler made a decision. “Kent, I’m going to give you the antibodies.” He would split the three doses, giving one bottle to Brantly, the second bottle to Writebol, and the third bottle to whichever of them was not evacuated.

A nurse got the bottle from under Writebol’s arm. Writebol said that she was glad for Brantly to have it. While Plyler watched, a doctor named Linda Mabula suited up and went into Brantly’s house, where she prepared an I.V. drip. The plan was to drip the first dose into him very slowly, so that the antibodies wouldn’t send him into shock. Plyler stayed by the window and prayed with Brantly. After less than an hour, Brantly began to shake violently, a condition called rigors. It occurs in people who are near death from an overwhelming bacterial infection. Plyler had a different feeling about these rigors. “That’s just the antibodies kicking the virus’s butt,” he told Brantly through the window.

Three hours later, Lisa Hensley got a text from Lance Plyler: “Kent is about halfway into the first dose. Honestly he looks distinctly better already. Is that possible?” Hensley texted back to say that monkeys on the brink of death had shown improvement within hours. Two days later, having received one dose of ZMapp out of the required three doses, and a blood transfusion from a fourteen-year-old boy who had recovered from Ebola, Kent Brantly walked onto the evacuation plane. At Emory University Hospital, in Atlanta, he received two more doses of ZMapp, which had been sent from the tobacco facility in Kentucky, and was discharged from the hospital after two weeks, free of the virus.

The second article chronicles "What We Don't Know About Obola."

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What don’t we know about Ebola? In some ways, we’re only aware of how much we don’t understand because of the little that we do. No one has identified Ebola’s “natural reservoir”—the animal species that carry the dormant pathogen during lulls between human outbreaks. Finding the hidden pool of the virus would go a long way toward eradicating it. At first, researchers thought that the hosts were chimpanzees, gorillas, and other primates. Now it is clear that these animals get sick and die too quickly to hold on to the virus for long. Although Ebola may be carried without symptoms in fruit bats for extended periods, as the media has widely reported, additional candidates keep emerging—a certain strain of the virus was found to be harbored by pigs in the Philippines in 2008, for example. To discover the source of Ebola, we should send trained field workers into the bush to test, isolate, and then kill infected animals to remove them as a food source and limit their capacity to transmit the virus.

There is precedent for this kind of strategy. In the bird flu outbreaks of 2005 through 2007, certain flocks of chickens in Asia carried deadly strains of influenza. Chinese public-health officials were able to target and slaughter them, snuffing out an epidemic that otherwise could have spread with great speed and ferocity, and significantly reducing the chance of flare-ups afterward.

Although we know that bodily fluids are contagious, we still don’t have a definitive picture of how the virus enters the body’s cells. But learning the biology of Ebola infections is necessary for designing and deploying effective drugs and vaccines. Unlike H.I.V., which can only infect a limited set of cell types in the body, Ebola is promiscuous and attacks white blood cells, the cells that line our vessels, and cells that make up our liver, adrenal glands, and airways. Research studies have suggested at least three potential paths that the virus can take to invade our tissues. In one sequence, Ebola attaches to a protein on the surface of a cell that is meant to transport cholesterol. After Ebola has hijacked the surface protein, it sneaks into the cell and rapidly proliferates. (That transport protein is ubiquitous in the body, because all our organs require cholesterol in order to function normally.) Other experiments have indicated that Ebola can commandeer a protein called TIM-1, which is widely distributed in conjunctiva, the insides of our eyelids, and in our cornea. Despite taking precautions with gloves and facemasks, health-care workers who have become infected may have inadvertently brushed a finger near their eye, giving the virus access to TIM-1.

And then there's this from The Federalist, "Medical Science Doesn't Support Official Rhetoric On Obola."

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The unavoidable inference from official statements is that victims without symptoms (yet!) cannot transmit the disease, and the “symptoms” are as straightforward as a “fever” (which remains ill-defined). Ebola can only be transmitted via “direct contact” with “body fluids” and then must enter new victims’ bodily openings. Ebola can’t be transmitted from dry surfaces of, say, doorknobs and bowling balls or invade dry skin surfaces that are not abraded, according to CDC’s initial assurances (accepted on faith, apparently, by the president, the New York Times reporter, the Dallas nurses, and even the New York City doctor who cared for Liberian Ebola patients and who apparently walked the city’s streets on his return, even while not feeling well.

These official assurances should not have passed the smell test. They contrast with the videos of Emory University’s Ebola specialists (and other caregivers and decontamination crews) who, when yards away from Ebola patients, were suited up—head to toe, with multiple layers of clothing, goggles, and respirators—with their gear appearing to be as protective as that worn by Japanese workers who in 2011 began seeking to contain the radiation leaks at the earthquake-damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear workers. The Emory Ebola caregivers got hosed down with chemicals on exiting the isolation rooms. They also suited up and disrobed following strict protocols, with supervisors watching.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #256 on: November 01, 2014, 02:03:03 AM »
About the suits .... the Feds are acquiring hazmat suits.  These are not BIO-HAZARD suits.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #257 on: November 01, 2014, 11:34:39 AM »
Interesting that the non-partisan CDC is so sure of itself...oops, strike that!

CDC posts then deletes Obola "sneeze & cough warning".

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #258 on: November 02, 2014, 12:35:37 AM »
Latest possible Obola infection is in Oregon...

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The Oregonian reports that the woman "recently arrived in Portland and was monitoring herself for Ebola symptoms under a voluntary program" and that "a source told The Oregonian she arrived from Liberia on Tuesday evening." According to the Los Angeles Times, the woman flew through one of the five U.S. airports screening travelers entering the U.S. from Ebola-stricken countries.

Oregon officials have remained tight-lipped about the woman or her background, citing privacy issues. She remains in isolation at Providence Milwaukie Hospital until test results determine the cause of her illness and temperature. Reuters originally reported that the woman was an "Oregon resident." However, both The Oregonian and the Los Angeles Times flatly dispute that characterization.

"The patient is not an Oregon resident," reports the Los Angeles Times. "She had been staying in a household in the Portland area."

Doctors say the Liberian woman's temperature spike was cause for alarm. "It got our attention because it was over 102 degrees," said Dr. Paul Lewis.

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And, from the glass-half-empty crowd (who seem to be more right than wrong) we have this happy news...

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Top medical experts studying the spread of Ebola say the public should expect more cases to emerge in the United States by year's end as infected people arrive here from West Africa, including American doctors and nurses returning from the hot zone and people fleeing from the deadly disease.

No one knows for sure how many infections will emerge in the U.S. or anywhere else, but scientists have made educated guesses based on data models that weigh hundreds of variables, including daily new infections in West Africa, airline traffic worldwide and transmission possibilities.

This week, several top infectious disease experts ran simulations that predicted as few as one or two additional infections by the end of 2014 to a worst-case scenario of 130.


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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #259 on: November 02, 2014, 10:12:30 AM »
It must irritate Obolamites that whites aren't dropping dead from this, but perhaps their insanity indicates their determination to correct that flaw, eh?
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