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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: trapeze on November 06, 2013, 09:35:11 PM

Title: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 06, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
This (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-05/obamacare-shouldn-t-have-been-managed-like-a-campaign.html) is a really terrific summary of everything that is wrong with DumbassCare that we know of (to date...obviously there will probably be more but this is pretty darned good).

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Unsurprisingly, the massive and unpopular transformation failed to attract any Republican votes. When Republicans had faced similar electoral math on Social Security reform -- an opposition party implacably opposed, and the electorate clearly against it -- they’d abandoned their efforts. That is what parties do when they reach such an impasse; it’s what Democrats did on Clintoncare. No program this large had ever passed on a party-line vote, because this was correctly viewed as political suicide. Nancy Pelosi managed to get it through the House anyway, which should go down as one of the most impressive political achievements in history, and Harry Reid shepherded another version through the Senate. When Republicans protested, they were rather smugly told that “elections have consequences.”

Then Ted Kennedy died. Massachusetts -- Massachusetts! -- elected Republican Scott Brown in an election that often seemed to revolve around the health-care bill. Democrats still pressed forward. Without the votes to overcome a Republican filibuster, they had the House pass a draft Senate bill that had never been meant to become law and used some procedural tap-dancing to push some fixes through the Senate. Such maneuvering wasn’t unprecedented, but it wasn’t popular, either. And the limitations of the method they used left the bill with all sorts of problems, many of which we are dealing with now.

Democrats read this as a lesson on the evils of the filibuster. As it happens, I like the idea of minorities having a check on majorities. But that’s sort of irrelevant, because this would have been a bad idea even if Democrats could have passed a cleaner bill with 59 votes in the Senate.

Democrats believed that the unpopular bill they had just rammed through on a party-line vote would not only get more popular, but also make them more popular, thereby giving them the political support they needed to pass more fixes -- fixes that would have been needed even on a less messy draft bill, because anything this complicated is unlikely to work as written. As I noted at the time, this seemed borderline delusional. Democrats lost the House and some Senate seats in the 2010 election, and Obamacare was a major contributor to that loss. Whereupon Democrats learned what apparently didn’t occur to them in 2009: that there might be other elections, with different consequences.

This article was written by Megan McArdle and it is pretty good. Really. You should read it all the way through.

Here is the link (http://www.scribd.com/doc/181039999/Memo-from-David-Cutler-on-health-reform-implementation) to the Larry Summers memo of 2010 outlining all of the problems that he knew about this mess at that time. Also well worth a read. Here is one portion:

 
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4. Above the operational level, the process is also broken. The overall head of implementation inside HHS, Jeanne Lambrew, is known for her knowledge of Congress, her commitment to the poor, and her mistrust of insurance companies. She is not known for operational ability, knowledge of delivery systems, or facilitating widespread change. Thus, it is not surprising that delivery system reform, provider outreach, and exchange administration are receiving little attention. Further, the fact that Jeanne and people like her cannot get along with other people in the Administration means that the opportunities for collaborative engagement are limited, areas of great importance are not addressed, and valuable problem solving time is wasted on internal fights.

All in all, the administration has immense decisions to make about transforming health care delivery and coverage. But no one I interact with has confidence that your current  personnel and configuration is up to the task.

Remember...this was written in May of 2010...nearly 3-1/2 years before the 2013 rollout fiasco. So...conclusion: This was all predictable. And, given the amateurish behavior of the administration, completely inevitable. Like the sun rising in the east.


And then there's this from the Politico: (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4CC8227F-7BC1-4CE9-A941-81A9B47CAFF3)

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Democratic senators have a warning for the White House: Fix Obamacare’s problems or put Senate seats at risk next year.

In interviews, Democratic senators running in 2014, party elders and Senate leaders said the Obama administration must rescue the law from its rocky start before it emerges as a bigger political liability next year.

Democratic senators from red states — the most vulnerable incumbents up for reelection next year — voted for Obamacare and have been among the law’s biggest champions, believing that voters would embrace it once they experienced its benefits. They could end up being some of the law’s most prominent casualties if its unpopularity continues to grow.

If voters continue experiencing problems like a balky website, canceled policies and higher premiums, the fallout could be brutal next November, Democrats acknowledge.

Anyone seriously think that DumbassCare can be fixed...ever? I don't. It is fundamentally flawed in that it ignores human behavior and market economics. It may as well ignore the law of gravity and try to levitate. This law simply cannot work. Not now. Not by the end of November. Not by the end of next November. Not ever.

Next year's elections are going to be a blood bath that will make the previous Republican routs of 1994 and 2010 look tame by comparison. Lie to the voters? Sure...no problem. But you have to be Bill Clinton. Lie and steal from the voters? And then double down and lie about the lie? This is all uncharted territory because previous presidents and previous Democrat leaders have been able to embrace reality at least to a certain degree and have never gone down this particular cul de sac before. But these guys? They are speeding into this dead end like it's an eight lane interstate highway to paradise.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 07, 2013, 12:20:26 AM
Schadenfreude: enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others

Quick, someone cue the violin music...

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8269/t8jw.png)

And from the theater of unintended consequences (http://www.propublica.org/article/loyal-obama-supporters-canceled-by-obamacare) comes this tale of woe:

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San Francisco architect Lee Hammack says he and his wife, JoEllen Brothers, are “cradle Democrats.” They have donated to the liberal group Organizing for America and worked the phone banks a year ago for President Obama’s re-election.

Since 1995, Hammack and Brothers have received their health coverage from Kaiser Permanente, where Brothers worked until 2009 as a dietitian and diabetes educator. “We’ve both been in very good health all of our lives – exercise, don’t smoke, drink lightly, healthy weight, no health issues, and so on,” Hammack told me.

The couple — Lee, 60, and JoEllen, 59 — have been paying $550 a month for their health coverage — a plan that offers solid coverage, not one of the skimpy plans Obama has criticized. But recently, Kaiser informed them the plan would be canceled at the end of the year because it did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. The couple would need to find another one. The cost would be around double what they pay now, but the benefits would be worse.

Touching story, no?

But just to prove that you can't fix stupid:

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“We’re not changing our views because of this situation, but it hurt to hear Obama saying, just the other day, that if our plan has been dropped it’s because it wasn’t any good, and our costs would go up only slightly,” he said. “We’re gratified that the press is on the case, but frustrated that the stewards of the ACA don’t seem to have heard.”

And then there's this:

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[Hammack has] written to California’s senators and his representative, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asking for help.

“We believe that the Act is good for health care, the economy, & the future of our nation. However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes,” he and Brothers wrote.

You just have to wonder how people like this avoid falling off of a pier or walking onto the interstate.

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So what is Hammack going to do? If his income were to fall below four times the federal poverty level, or about $62,000 for a family of two, he would qualify for subsidies that could lower his premium cost to as low as zero. If he makes even one dollar more, he gets nothing.

That’s what he’s leaning toward — lowering his salary or shifting more money toward a retirement account and applying for a subsidy.

Anyway, you will note the human nature and invisible hand at work where the ObamaVoter says that he is considering lowering his pay rate so that he can qualify for a subsidy. Funny thing that...human nature. Now, for a moment imagine that a significant portion of the affected population decides to do the same thing. Then what?

Well, for starters we are looking at an overnight jump in the dependent class. Thousands and thousands of people decide to get off of the "maker" train and hop a bus to "takerville." What then?

First of all you end up with a healthcare system that cannot support itself at all. Too many taking out and not enough putting in. But what about the economy? What happens to an economy that suddenly sees a massive decline in productivity? What about the dramatic lowering of disposable income? What does that do to the employment market? Does it get better, stay the same or get worse? The optimistic guess would be "stay the same." And what would then happen to revenue to the fed, state and local governments? Anyone think that it would improve? No? So first you get the health insurance death spiral and then you get the economic death spiral.

Cool.

COUNTRY MUSIC AWARDS OPEN: BRAD PAISLEY AND CARRIE UNDERWOOD MOCK OBAMACARE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGAJsSvqqv4#)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 07, 2013, 04:06:03 AM
I have an old friend - a former drummer in my band. He's apparently a liberal and Obama supporter. I don't see him anymore, but we're connected on facebook.

During the government shutdown, he posted an article by Fareed Zakaria, condemning Ted Cruz and the House for trying to obstruct "settled law", saying that the actions were dangerous to the republic.

I chimed in and tore the article to pieces. Rather than object, my old friend warned his other facebook friends to think before engaging me, and he said it in a condescending way, suggesting that I'm a know-it-all.

I let it sit for a while, and then my friend chimed in with a long diatribe, which I more easily tore to shreds than I did Zakaria's BS. My friend must have decided he was outmatched, because even though I've posted bits and pieces about the devastation of Obamacare as addendums to that facebook thread, he has not responded.

Now here's the thing: he's a small business owner, and I am absolutely certain that he obtains his health insurance on the open market. I am infinitely curious to know what he's learning about how his finances and choices are about to be turned upside down, and the prospect fills me with glee.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 07, 2013, 05:57:06 AM
IDP said:
Now here's the thing: he's a small business owner, and I am absolutely certain that he obtains his health insurance on the open market. I am infinitely curious to know what he's learning about how his finances and choices are about to be turned upside down, and the prospect fills me with glee.

It ought to have you jumping up and down with glee.

Regarding Trap's response of the Brothers couple: Wait until the government sees that huge difference regarding how much revenue it doesn't take in because many are doing the same thing they always do to avoid paying higher taxes, wait for it....they hide their money or work less so declaring lower income becomes the norm.

Stupid f**ks, welcome to Obamaville. Please MR. Chinese banker, the revenue from the income tax hikes isn't panning out as theorized it would. Americans are greedy capitalist pigs. ::popcorn::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 07, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
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However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes

THEY WANT IT FIXED FOR THEM!!!  They are special.  They're healthy!! They did everything right!!! They deserve it!!  Not like the others who probably eat at McDonalds or something.

 ::puke::  ::bashing::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 07, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
During the government shutdown, he posted an article by Fareed Zakaria, condemning Ted Cruz and the House for trying to obstruct "settled law", saying that the actions were dangerous to the republic.

The Second Amendment is settled law ratified by a 3/4 majority and has been in place for over 200 years.  How dare the Democrats try to meddle with it?
Compare that to Obamacare, a spending bill originated in the Senate, passed with huge and obvious kickbacks as a bribe,  on a bill no one had read, and which had massive majority opposition both before and after its passage.  Its settled law.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on November 07, 2013, 10:51:52 AM
Furthermore, as to settled law, there are two or three cases in the process of making their way through the courts.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 07, 2013, 10:53:07 AM
So the final leg on this stool is the humanitarian one. This is the one where people, real people from every demographic category you care to think of, who have recently become uninsured through no fault of their own get sick and die because of this law.

It's pretty hard to argue with a corpse. Or lots of them. But this will happen. There is no way to prevent it now. Many hundreds of thousands of people...maybe a few million...who used to have insurance no longer do. And a certain percentage of them will get sick or injured and will be denied treatment because they are not insured and a certain percentage of them will die.

And we are talking about a lot of deaths. A number that will dwarf the casualty numbers of Iraq or Afghanistan. Now while it is true that even with insurance a lot of these statistical people would have died anyway, well, tell that to the grieving family members who will be convinced that their loved one would have lived if only they had still had insurance. It just won't matter to them. It wouldn't matter to me.

Nope, this is going to be bad and there is absolutely no way to stop it now.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
When libiots start a fire, perhaps the best course of action is to get out of the way...while leaving gas cans behind...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 07, 2013, 12:02:50 PM
all those people who thought Obamacare was for other people are finding out it's for them!   
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 07, 2013, 12:23:35 PM
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However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes

THEY WANT IT FIXED FOR THEM!!!  They are special... 

 ::puke::  ::bashing::

Just like the labor unions, and that wealthy district in Colorado.

Useful idiots, all.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 07, 2013, 12:26:08 PM
So the final leg on this stool is the humanitarian one. This is the one where people, real people from every demographic category you care to think of, who have recently become uninsured through no fault of their own get sick and die because of this law.

It's pretty hard to argue with a corpse. Or lots of them. But this will happen. There is no way to prevent it now. Many hundreds of thousands of people...maybe a few million...who used to have insurance no longer do. And a certain percentage of them will get sick or injured and will be denied treatment because they are not insured and a certain percentage of them will die.

And we are talking about a lot of deaths. A number that will dwarf the casualty numbers of Iraq or Afghanistan. Now while it is true that even with insurance a lot of these statistical people would have died anyway, well, tell that to the grieving family members who will be convinced that their loved one would have lived if only they had still had insurance. It just won't matter to them. It wouldn't matter to me.

Nope, this is going to be bad and there is absolutely no way to stop it now.

...and who are the majority of people who had insurance on the open market who no longer do, and who may die by the thousands or millions?

Well, all the right people for the Marxist purge: Middle-class, self-reliant small business owners, and hey, if most of 'em are White, that's a bonus for the Marxists too.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on November 07, 2013, 03:11:15 PM
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However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes

THEY WANT IT FIXED FOR THEM!!!  They are special.  They're healthy!! They did everything right!!! They deserve it!!  Not like the others who probably eat at McDonalds or something.

 ::puke::  ::bashing::

"Awwwww. Sucks when karma runs over your dogma, doesn't it?" - Kevin Baker (http://www.smallestminority.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2013, 07:48:56 AM
Yeah...

PrezSkittles sorry he lied is ass off (not true), sorry he suckered you (no, definitely not true)...and he knows you'll still love him tomorrow (sadly, this is probably true, poor dumb usefull idiots can't help it!  what are they gonna do, turn on him?  not support dem's who "promise" to fix this shyt?!  yeah, right!)...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-07/obama-i-am-sorry-americans-will-lose-their-existing-health-plan-because-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-07/obama-i-am-sorry-americans-will-lose-their-existing-health-plan-because-obamacare)

Welcome to the FUBAR'd state of Amerika...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 08, 2013, 11:34:29 PM
I hope this posts OK...

(http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/images/PARODY.v19-10.Nov18.jpg)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 08, 2013, 11:43:50 PM
Thank goodness he is pivoting to the economy so that he can f*****g focus on it like a laser beam and jobs can magically pop out of his butt with new and improved rainbow power. Certainly he deserves the Nobel Prize for economics and if he doesn't get it then it's a Republican racist conspiracy or something.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 09, 2013, 12:01:28 AM
Cancer patient gets his plan cancelled and decides to die rather than saddle his family with the outrageous insurance costs that DumbassCare has for him. LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/08/Cancer-Patient-Plan-Canceled-I-Will-Pay-95-Fine-And-Let-Nature-Take-Its-Course#disqus_thread)

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Elliott says he voted for Obama due to his promise that Americans could keep their plans if they like them.

"I like my doctor. I love my insurance," said Elliott. "They were paying just about everything, including medication and medical devices."
 
On Thursday, Obama said he was "sorry" to the 4.2 million Americans whose health insurance plans have been canceled due to Obamacare. Elliott says the president's apology is too little too late.

"Absolutely he misled me," said Elliott. "I believe that was more of an insult to me and the other people who have been canceled than him saying 41 times 'you're going to keep your doctor, keep your insurance. Period.'"

Elliott added that Obama's apology is "like a doctor coming into your operating room and saying, 'I cut out your wrong kidney. But I'm sorry about that.' There's nothing you can do about it now."

Now this is someone who is really and truly sorry that he voted for the SCOAMF.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 09, 2013, 12:18:11 AM
Now this is someone who is really and truly sorry that he voted for the SCOAMF.

As crass as this sounds considering this guy's case, stupid should hurt -- a lot.  There's a ton of hurt left to be felt by the stupid.  We're hearing about the sick cases now, wait until we hear from the youngsters who aren't buying into the OwebamaCare exchanges bullshyt tomorrow, paying the penalty tax instead.  Wait until the system collapses for all thanks to Dems thinking they can change the laws of economics and human nature.  We've got a long way to fall yet before the pain is equally (re)distributed to the stupid who voted for their own enslavement to the government.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 09, 2013, 09:05:43 AM
Now this is someone who is really and truly sorry that he voted for the SCOAMF.

As crass as this sounds considering this guy's case, stupid should hurt -- a lot.  There's a ton of hurt left to be felt by the stupid.  We're hearing about the sick cases now, wait until we hear from the youngsters who aren't buying into the OwebamaCare exchanges bullshyt tomorrow, paying the penalty tax instead.  Wait until the system collapses for all thanks to Dems thinking they can change the laws of economics and human nature.  We've got a long way to fall yet before the pain is equally (re)distributed to the stupid who voted for their own enslavement to the government.

Wait till millions just decide to not comply with paying the penalty. Especially those like me, who have insurance, but will refuse to claim it until the IRS takes it to court.  Oh sorry, looks like I had it all along and I don't owe you a f'ing dime. This paperwork is like a butterfly ballot. I can't understand it, and therefore I keep filling it out incorrectly.

I don't feel any sympathy for these people. I, and many others, were screaming at the top of our lungs this was going to happen, and if you chose to ignore those warnings,  to not look into those claims and to "trust" your government instead, then you deserve to die. Horribly, and in Pain if possible.  If you supported this, you supported trying to bully and rob others to get your free lunch, and you are guilty of  an attempt at enslaving  others. . YOU EARNED this reward.  Enjoy it. Reap what you have sown, and choke on it.

As for the rest, we are going to be a third world country.  Do you expect good medical care in the third world? No. Its time to accept that fact. You will not have it. You will not have a lot of things.  Life with be hard, brutish and short, because that is the way the leftards prefer it.  Far better than that than seeing anyone do better then they .
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
Now this is someone who is really and truly sorry that he voted for the SCOAMF.

As crass as this sounds considering this guy's case, stupid should hurt -- a lot.  There's a ton of hurt left to be felt by the stupid.  We're hearing about the sick cases now, wait until we hear from the youngsters who aren't buying into the OwebamaCare exchanges bullshyt tomorrow, paying the penalty tax instead.  Wait until the system collapses for all thanks to Dems thinking they can change the laws of economics and human nature.  We've got a long way to fall yet before the pain is equally (re)distributed to the stupid who voted for their own enslavement to the government.

Wait till millions just decide to not comply with paying the penalty. Especially those like me, who have insurance, but will refuse to claim it until the IRS takes it to court.  Oh sorry, looks like I had it all along and I don't owe you a f'ing dime. This paperwork is like a butterfly ballot. I can't understand it, and therefore I keep filling it out incorrectly.

I don't feel any sympathy for these people. I, and many others, were screaming at the top of our lungs this was going to happen, and if you chose to ignore those warnings,  to not look into those claims and to "trust" your government instead, then you deserve to die. Horribly, and in Pain if possible.  If you supported this, you supported trying to bully and rob others to get your free lunch, and you are guilty of  an attempt at enslaving  others. . YOU EARNED this reward.  Enjoy it. Reap what you have sown, and choke on it.

As for the rest, we are going to be a third world country.  Do you expect good medical care in the third world? No. Its time to accept that fact. You will not have it. You will not have a lot of things.  Life with be hard, brutish and short, because that is the way the leftards prefer it.  Far better than that than seeing anyone do better then they .

 ::clapping::

And I will be there to gum up the works and dick with them too! 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 09, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
Here's the thing, though...

The destruction of the health insurance market and, by extension, the healthcare industry has created something that demands a reaction: A vacuum.

There is a demand for health care and it cannot be legislated away. What the admin has done is to legislate the existing marketplace away but the demand for the product remains. What is not there is a current way to fulfill that demand. But that will change with no help at all from government.

We saw this with the 1994 assault weapons ban. The government banned certain guns and the gun industry responded to market demand by creating new ones. Now it is true that the gun industry could not get around certain aspects of the law but they got around a remarkable amount of it. And that is because the law did not legislate away the demand of the market.

We also saw this with the 1995 ban of R12 refrigerant...the stuff that was used in every car air conditioner. Since then new cars are made for a different refrigerant but what about the antique cars that still use the old stuff? Well, the chemical companies developed new refrigerants that work as a direct replacement for R12. Plus, if you want to go to Mexico you can probably buy as much as you like of the original stuff.

The light bulb ban will have a similar skirting of the law. I can just about guarantee that you will still be able to buy an incandescent light bulb pretty much forever because if there is a demand for them it will get filled by someone.

With healthcare and healthcare insurance it will be the same. When millions of people need healthcare and the old way of delivering it is no longer legal that simply means that a new way can and will be found to meet that demand.

The admin will stumble and bumble along for many weeks, perhaps many months, trying to fix the monster that they created but it is entirely possible (and even likely) that the free market will answer the problem on its own.

Perhaps the insurance industry will create a new product/instrument out of thin air that will allow for catastrophic care coverage, one that is not specifically outlawed by the DumbassCare legislation.

Perhaps primary care will suddenly become a cash and carry business model with dramatically lower pricing since insurance is no longer part of the picture.

Who knows?

But what you can absolutely count on is that a non-government solution will emerge. People are not going to suddenly stop exhibiting human behavior and where there is a vacuum in the marketplace someone will figure out a way to fill it and get wealthy in the process.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2013, 10:50:06 AM
Yes, cash for service will increase, absolutely.  In some ways it already is with the so-called "minute clinics", this will expand into private medical treatment and perhaps even some traveling docs.  But the government will move in to control it, you watch!  They'll blather on and on using words like "public safety", "unregulated/Unlicensed", "back-alley", "law-dodging" & "tax-dodging" and look to kill or regulate it.

Thew more they squeeze the more it will go underground, and then the cost for this will eventually go up, so in the end the future is dim for average Americans.

Best solution is widespread and overt non-compliance and defiance...make the state show its fist, then we'll see where this all goes!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 09, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
Brazil (3/10) Movie CLIP - Harry Tuttle, Heating Engineer (1985) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dht_3NziwSw#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2013, 11:09:12 AM
Idiocracy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPGlVqqEP0#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 09, 2013, 11:34:25 AM
Colorado ObamaVoter and DumbassCare cheerleader gets her policy cancellation notice. (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/11/08/colorado-woman-who-championed-obamacare-loses-insurance-plan/)

Acts sincerely surprised.

CO Democrat congresswoman says, though, no big deal because losers like this are going to be the exception rather than the rule and in a year or two when DumbassCare is working properly everyone is going to be happy, happy, happy.

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Wagner and her husband retired early. She was a nurse for 35 years and championed Obamacare, until she received a letter from her insurance company saying it was canceling her policy.

“I was really shocked … all of my hopes were sort of dashed,” Wagner said. “’Oh my gosh President Obama, this is not what we hoped for, it’s not what we were told.’ “

She was shocked further to learn that for the same coverage she would pay 35 percent more and have a higher deductible.

“Our premium for next year is going up to over $1,000 a month for two of us and we’re two fairly healthy individuals,” Wagner said.

Well, back to work for you, dumbass.

(If you carefully watch the video at the link you will see the pricing on the computer screen has $12,000+ deductibles which was left out of the report.)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 09, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
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There is a demand for health care and it cannot be legislated away'
I think Trap's on to something.  Whether it's out in the open or more discreet I don't know.  But I can't tell you how many doctors' offices I've been to and they employ all these people trained to do things only doctors used to do.  Nurse practioners, physician assistants, etc.  So I can see where you have a little boo-boo you go see the PA, pay $50 and you're done. Maybe the PA's an independent contractor so no insurance gets filed.  And how about pharmacists?  They're not doctors but they sure can answer questions.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 10:45:53 AM
Yet another story. This time it is in the pages of the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/opinion/daring-to-complain-about-obamacare.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=opinion&adxnnlx=1384176375-NE7ORP65JRQZzTTykhAhqA) and the comments, as you expect from libs, are running 100 to 1 against the author.

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LOS ANGELES — THE Anthem Blue Cross representative who answered my call told me that there was a silver lining in the cancellation of my individual P.P.O. policy and the $5,400 annual increase that I would have to pay for the Affordable Care Act-compliant option: now if I have Stage 4 cancer or need a sex-change operation, I’d be covered regardless of pre-existing conditions. Never mind that the new provider network would eliminate coverage for my and my son’s long-term doctors and hospitals.

The Anthem rep cheerily explained that despite the company’s — I paraphrase — draconian rates and limited network, my benefits, which also include maternity coverage (handy for a 46-year-old), would “be actually much richer.”

I, of course, would be actually much poorer. And it was this aspect of the bum deal that, to my surprise, turned out to be a very unpopular thing to gripe about.

“Obamacare or Kafkacare?” I posted on Facebook as soon as I hung up with Anthem. I vented about the call and wrote that the president should be protecting the middle class, not making our lives substantially harder. For extra sympathy, I may have thrown in the fact that I’m a single mom. (O.K., I did.)

Then I sat back and waited for the love to pour in. Or at least the “like.” Lots of likes. After all, I have 1,037 Facebook friends. Surely, they’d commiserate.

Except that they didn’t.

Instead, aside from my friend David, who attempted to cheer me up with, “My dad, who never turns down a bargain, would take the sex change just because it’s free,” my respondents implied — in posts that, to my annoyance, kept getting more “likes” — that it was beyond uncool to be whining about myself when the less fortunate would finally have insurance.

“The nation has been better off,” wrote one friend. “Over 33 million people who did not have insurance are now going to get it.” That’s all fine and good for “the nation,” but what about my $5,400 rate hike (after-tax dollars, I wanted to add, but dared not in this group of previously closeted Mother Teresas)? Another friend wrote, “Yes, I’m paying an extra 200 a month, but I’m okay with doing that so that others who need it can have health care.”

I was shocked. Who knew my friends were such humanitarians? Has Obamacare made it un-P.C. to be concerned by a serious burden on my family’s well-being?

You just want to reach out and punch the commenters for being such elitist and condescending assholes.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 11, 2013, 11:37:41 AM
Yet another story. This time it is in the pages of the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/opinion/daring-to-complain-about-obamacare.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=opinion&adxnnlx=1384176375-NE7ORP65JRQZzTTykhAhqA) and the comments, as you expect from libs, are running 100 to 1 against the author.

Some of the comments:

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I'm with your facebook friends. It's the attitidue of me first, only me that is dooming this nation.
The easiest thing would have been to sit back and watch Europe and all of its Jews burn during the
Second World War, but we didn't.

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[Obama] should concentrate on the 47% and help them as much as he can. He should not spend one moment on you
either, for you are obviously just like me, one of life's winners.


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Suck it up. Eat dinner at Denny's one night a month and pay the premium out of the savings. While you are
there look around and see how the other half lives.

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Go sip some tea with the Tea Party folks.

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Whatever happened to our sense of community? Americans as a group are so very generous, willing to help out
at the drop of a hat when a neighbor or community group is in distress. But higher premiums for "the nation"?
Apparently not.

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Honestly, I find it hard to be sympathetic to someone who may have to cut back their vacation plans a bit
because their catastrophic only coverage is no longer available. Or to someone that has so greatly benefited
from living in the United States, but feels so little willingness to contribute back to the community and people
that helped her find her success. (No one is successful in a vacuum.)

Others write that our "contentment" was enjoyed on the backs of the culturally "excluded"...

...not a self-conscious bootstrap-puller amongst the "free shyt", "you didn't build that" crowd. We represent life's "lottery winners" & can go f*ck ourselves.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 11, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
They think they're being charitable by having the government take our money and "give" it to someone else.


 ::bashing:: ::bashing:: ::bashing:: ::bashing::


Incidentally, those people who now have coverage because of "our generosity" won't be getting any better "health care" than we will be getting.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 11, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
Zey havz veys to makez you partizipate in order to enzure all getz ze zame treatment, ja?!  Nowz stoppenze za crybabyz act, or elze!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 11, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
I guess a lot of people subscribe to the "misery loves company" club and they want to make sure you're part of it.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 11, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
Reading the comments posted by Pablo, it seems to me that the author of the piece as well as others in her situation will be faced with an inconvenient reckoning. They're going to have to figure out how their personal pain fits into the ideology they've always subscribed to. Some will have lightbulbs go off, and some won't.

Question is now, even if the tide of public opinion against Obamacare becomes a tsunami, with former liberals joining in trying to get rid of it, how does that manifest? Once the current health care system is destroyed - which I fear is happening at a pace more rapid than any of us dared contemplate - the fight will be about single-payer vs "evil conservatives who want you to keep suffering".

So, how many of the people like the author of this piece who are dismayed at their own personal pain will turn back 180º in their dissent, once single-payer government health care is on the table?

I suspect the author might be delighted to return to the liberal fold.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 01:11:49 PM
For the exact opposite reaction, though, go to my previous posting (found here (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9508.msg113345#msg113345)) and read those comments. They are running about 1000 to 1 against the person but in this case it is also against DumbassCare.

The NYT readership (based on those comments) is a cesspool of collectivists. I put it to anyone that the reaction at the Denver CBS story is probably more typical of the average person's reaction.

One other thing...have a look at this article (http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/09/obamacare-leaves-doctors-on-the-hook-for) from "Reason" in which the author outlines an all too likely scenario where doctors and hospitals participating in DumbassCare get stuck with unpaid bills by people who game the system. This is all the proof needed that this system is designed to fail.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 11, 2013, 01:14:17 PM
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Next year's elections are going to be a blood bath that will make the previous Republican routs of 1994 and 2010 look tame by comparison.

Except some of us are saddled with rinos in name only, who won't work to get rid of O'Care.  They had their chance, they surrendered.  I'm not voting for Erik Paulsen, ever again.  That hasn't changed in the past couple weeks, it won't change if he delivers some pretty words tomorrow.  Actions matter.  So bloodbath?  I'm not so sure.

Here's one take, with regards to limousine liberals.  Being a LL was always easy, vote Democrat, and someone else's money will build high rise housing for someone else to live in.  Someone else's money will stock food shelves that someone else will get their food at.  Best of all, someone else's money will build and staff inner city schools someone else's children will have to attend.  Obamacare was supposed to be the same thing...someone else's money being used to fund charity care for someone else, probably in some crowded clinic.  Guess what?  With Obamacare, the LL is now forced into the very thing they thought would only apply to Those People.  Obamacare is the equivalent of forcing that LL into high rise housing, or that inner city school.  That's why this is different than any other Democrat nonsense.

Just a thought.



Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 01:38:02 PM
Here's one take, with regards to limousine liberals.  Being a LL was always easy, vote Democrat, and someone else's money will build high rise housing for someone else to live in.  Someone else's money will stock food shelves that someone else will get their food at.  Best of all, someone else's money will build and staff inner city schools someone else's children will have to attend.  Obamacare was supposed to be the same thing...someone else's money being used to fund charity care for someone else, probably in some crowded clinic.  Guess what?  With Obamacare, the LL is now forced into the very thing they thought would only apply to Those People.  Obamacare is the equivalent of forcing that LL into high rise housing, or that inner city school.  That's why this is different than any other Democrat nonsense.

Just a thought.





And a good thought.

It is the scenario that you describe above that makes me believe that there will be an electoral bloodbath for libs next year. The thing is, except for overwhelming hot beds of liberalism (like certain areas of NY and CA) a lot of victory margins in elections are somewhat tenuous. It does not take very many to switch sides (or even sit on their hands) to make an electoral difference. When enough people have lost their healthcare they will respond by either voting against an incumbent or just staying home on election day.

Either way...it will be a bloodbath.

There are other things that will enter into it, too, such as the president's approval numbers. O'Bongo's coat tails are rather toxic these days and it is difficult to see what, if anything, could turn that around. A negative presidential approval rating has always translated into congressional losses for that party in a midterm election. Personally, I don't think that the approval ratings for the thug have bottomed out yet. I fully expect him to end up with numbers that are far lower than anything that GWB ever got in his second term.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 11, 2013, 02:15:56 PM
yes, I think the LL always thought it was going to be for other people.  Like my liberal lawyer friend who so arrogantly observed one day to me that something must be done about health care for all those people. I'm pretty sure he thought it would be all the uncaring conservatives who's be paying for it and not him.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
LINK (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303763804579183713385661566)

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The Shaheen and Landrieu proposals are merely ploys for these Democrats to distance themselves from ObamaCare while still embracing it. But they can't have it both ways. Either they can vote to take down the whole regulate-subsidize-mandate apparatus for a year and propose major reforms to prevent a reprise of the last six weeks. Or else they will be enablers of the current and future disruptions, cancellations and limited health choices.

No doubt the ObamaCare Dozen noticed the Virginia Governor's race, which revealed that even presumably safe Democrats could be vulnerable on health care if Republicans can field decent candidates. As flawed and out-fundraised as GOP candidate Ken Cuccinelli was, he closed a huge gap in the polls by relentlessly belting ObamaCare in the final stretch.

Exit polls report that only 46% of the Virginia public supports ObamaCare, while 53% were opposed, 41% strongly opposed. Mr. Cuccinelli pulled 89% of those opposed. In 2014, Mr. Udall, Mr. Merkley and Virginia's Mark Warner might not be as fortunate as Terry McAuliffe.

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The ObamaCare Dozen are receiving an overdue education in the damaging consequences of the bill they supported, all of which were predicted by critics in 2010. Any one of these Senators could have prevented the current madness by voting no. And now the President they empowered to govern from the ideological left has rejected even their de minimis fixes and is promising to "grind it out" even if the problems get worse. These Senators deserve to be held accountable at the ballot box.

I have already sent a scathing letter to both of my Democrat senators telling them that I would crawl across broke glass to vote for anyone who opposes them on the ballot.

Doctor Zero (http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenhayward/2013/11/11/obamacare-will-be-repealed-well-in-advance-of-the-2014-elections/) is predicting a full repeal and soon. Even that, though, will not save the Democrats because it is impossible to reset this situation back to where it started. The insurance industry has suffered immeasurable harm and it will take a very, very long time for it to recover. Perhaps, if it is repealed, there will be an opportunity for some of the free market things to take over on their own.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 11, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
About the only thing that can save Democrats in the 2014 election is Republicans giving them the cover they need. Delay of mandates; subsidies; slush-money to aid those being shocked. I can see the GOP going for any or all of that, not to mention their proclivity for just generally f**king things up.

I'd like to have confidence that the incredible pain we are watching unfold will result in an awakening that will punish Leftists in a meaningful way; that perhaps we can even turn the tide.

As it is, I think it more likely that we will witness a rapid domino effect of collapsing health care infrastructure, demagoguery by the Leftists parroted by the media propagandists, and a whole new political struggle over universal health care vs. cruel Republicans who want the poor and minorities to die.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
It would be very bad for the GOP to walk into that tar baby and you can bet that McCain will be leading that charge.

But, on the other hand, there is absolutely nothing that can be done to fix this quickly or satisfactorily. Even if they repealed it tomorrow it would be a year or two before anything approaching "normal" could be observed. In the meantime...people are going to die and those deaths will be laid at the feet of the Democrats who, in their zeal to reinvent the healthcare system in the USA, failed to observe the basic rule of medicine: First, do no harm.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: AlanS on November 11, 2013, 04:54:04 PM
The Shaheen and Landrieu proposals are merely ploys for these Democrats to distance themselves from ObamaCare while still embracing it.

Observers in the state note that Landrieu is VERY beatable, but for some damned reason the elite GOP members refuse to back the real conservative (David Cassidy). Thus pushing their RINO candidate, splitting the vote, and giving Sister Sen Landrieu another win. ::pullhair::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 11, 2013, 05:34:15 PM
yes, I think the LL always thought it was going to be for other people.  Like my liberal lawyer friend who so arrogantly observed one day to me that something must be done about health care for all those people. I'm pretty sure he thought it would be all the uncaring conservatives who's be paying for it and not him.
They had no beef about a small "donation" to be made to the poor to get their "insurance" but this sh*t totally different, the "donation" is super high as in 300-400% more with super high deductibles(may as well not have the insurance and pay cash until something seriously happens. Of course the govt will begin to punish anyone paying in cash or accepting it for services rendered. It's most definitely a fustercluck.

The insurance companies that help institute this disaster will die a speedy death and good riddance to them and their millionaire stock holders, however, the market may reset if we allow it barring interference from any government. God forgive me, I hate them all.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
Hey, time for a schadenfruede pallate cleanser. Either that or it's going to make you throw up. But I'm guessing not. You have to remember that these idiots were 200% behind DumbassCare...


Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0#ws)

Some more unintended humor...

Obama: Under Obamacare, health care will cost less than your cell phone bill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lT4VzH5xY8#ws)

Scandalous with Jennifer Hudson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzjLb2LwM7w#)

Obamacare or Shut Up with Billy Eichner and Olivia Wilde (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poH2sGG9Y84#)



Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
And why can't this mess be fixed? Here's why. (http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-obamacare-rollout-administration.html)


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Millions of people are facing those cancellation letters. Ideally, we could just say, never mind––let these people simply stay on their current policies. But here's maybe the biggest irony in this whole mess. The Obama administration may not be ready for Obamacare but the insurance industry is. The health insurance companies spent the last many months rolling their old policies off the books and replacing them with the 2014 Obamacare compliant products––Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum.

Cancellation letters have been sent. Their computer systems took months to program in order to be able to send the letters out and set up the terminations on their systems. Even post-Obamacare, the states regulate the insurance market. The old products are no longer filed for sale and rates are not approved. I suppose it might be possible to get insurance commissioners to waive their requirements but even if they did how could the insurance industry reprogram systems in less than a month that took months to program in the first place, contact the millions impacted, explain their new options (they could still try to get one of the new policies with a subsidy), and get their approval?

The Obama administration told the carriers to be ready on October 1 and they are ready. You just can't waive a magic wand and put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

Read the whole thing so that you know what they are up against.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
Another young one (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/11/10/obamacare-costs-young-people-column/3489751/)...almost certainly an ObamaVoter since she doesn't deny it and you know that she would if she could...starts bitching and moaning about what a raw deal her generation is getting under DumbassCare:

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Thanks to a key provision, insurers must charge older Americans no more than three times what they charge healthy younger adults.

As a result, insurance costs are soaring for the young. In 45 states and Washington, D.C., young adults will find that their premiums have risen since Obamacare's implementation, according to an October study by the conservative Heritage Foundation. And in most states, we're not talking about the kind of slight increases that could be offset by forgoing a couple of lattes a month. Instead, these increases are enough to make young adults squeeze in another roommate — or maybe even move back in with Mom and Dad.

Obamacare requires better coverage than in the past, which also explains the higher premium. But young adults don't need the added costs. In Arizona, the average monthly premium for a 27-year-old is expected to soar to $261.87 a month, up from $102. It's the same story in other states, including Georgia (where monthly premiums are increasing by $165), Illinois ($133), Michigan ($138) and Vermont ($216).

Sure, older adults may be unsympathetic to our dilemma. And a new study suggests young adults might not be such a bargain after all because of possible high mental health costs. But we have far less money than our older counterparts.

Ah, to be young and stupid again.

It is to laugh.

ObamaCare - Live Your Carefree Lifestyle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkH_aaaSOP0#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 11, 2013, 07:44:42 PM
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But we have far less money than our older counterparts.

Ah, to be young and stupid again.

It is to laugh.

Everyone always thinks they're the exception.  She has no money because she's young sooo she deserves sympathy.


Welcome to reality, honey.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 11, 2013, 10:34:31 PM
LINK (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/11/breaking-fewer-than-50000-people-have-enrolled-in-health-plans-via-obamacare-website-thus-far-says-wsj/)

So this is from HotAir. Their piece links to a subscriber only page at the WSJ so it's not all that good but the bottom line for this thing is that less than 50K people have signed up nationwide as of pretty much right now. They were supposed to have an attainable goal of 40K people signed up PER DAY.

This is pretty much horrible news for pretty much everyone. Well, everyone who isn't very young and healthy because what it probably means is that we are watching the beginning of the death throes of the health insurance industry and to a lesser degree the medical industry. There is simply zero way to recover from this.

Animal House--"You F'ed up, you trusted us" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXtWxhlsUg#)

There may not be any heads rolling in the O'Bongo admin (because, hey, no one there ever gets fired for anything except maybe leaking stuff without permission) but you have to believe that there will be some pretty big and high profile firings at the nation's health insurance companies. I mean, seriously, everyone is going to end up out of a job on this one. They gambled everything on this and now they have bought the farm. They trusted the best and the brightest, led by the magic negro and his Iranian bitch queen and found out, much to their growing dismay, that they are, in fact, idiots.

I have said this before...the ACA is like a big dinosaur turd dropped in the middle of a pond and the ripples are going out in every direction and no one knows what is going to happen now. We are in uncharted territory. I mean it...the USA has never killed off an entire industry before. Not on purpose. And you can say that this wasn't on purpose but it really was. There was no reason to go here but they did. And now, because of gross incompetence in the legislative, executive and even the judicial branches of the US government we are about to see a crippling lethal blow to the entire health insurance industry and, again to a lesser degree, the medical industry.

The health insurance industry is dead. They may not know it yet but they are dead. You just can't get out of the mess that they are in. They are well past the tipping point and they are going down. It is like that scene in Titanic:

This ship can't sink! - Titanic Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU1-s9KgPFk#ws)

So now the only questions that I have (and haven't a clue yet about the answers) are about where it goes from here. I suppose that the Fed can print up enough money to bail the insurance companies out but then what? No one is going to sign up for this mess. They can't afford it now and with all of the sick and elderly on board the premiums for everyone else will necessarily skyrocket...the death spiral will happen with or without a bailout. But who knows? I don't. I can throw out a few possibilities (and I have) but the operative phrase here is, "your guess is as good as mine," as to where this goes. It's going to be literally out of control in a few weeks...no one will be able to stop it or even influence what happens then.

This truly is the scandal to end all scandals. Bill Clinton should be happy that no one will remember any of his scandals when this thing starts crashing all about in earnest.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 12, 2013, 02:00:49 AM
Meanwhile, Oregon has reportedly shelled out $6 million for this ad...

Cover Oregon: "Live Long In Oregon" - Laura Gibson (:60) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2UUcXCo9g#ws)

Did I ever mention that I really don't care much for hippies? I did? Oh, yeah...I guess I did. Well, anyway...care to guess how many people have enrolled with DumbassCare to date in Oregon?

It's less than a thousand.

It's less than a hundred.

It's less than twenty.

Yes, it's zero.

None.

Quite the return on investment, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 12, 2013, 05:05:24 AM
Isn't Oregon the only state with legislature approved legal medical suicide?

I'm quite surprised they haven't had tons of enrollment for OCare, seeing as how death of the populace is the goal.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 12, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
Isn't Oregon the only state with legislature approved legal medical suicide?

I'm quite surprised they haven't had tons of enrollment for OCare, seeing as how death of the populace is the goal.

They should welcome the Death Panel. I'll even volunteer.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 12, 2013, 07:55:58 AM
They're ditching millions.  50,000 have found new.  Even if they want, those millions can't sign back up by, what, December 15?

Not...gonna...happen.

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/drink/beer.gif)   ::popcorn::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2013, 08:03:40 AM
Our own MN-Schtupp ad's on radio and TV are pathetic...Paul Bunyan, Babe the Blue Ox...how cliche, how utterly stupid!  I wouldn't be surprised if the next lame-assed crap they pull is using the Peanuts characters to pimp this scam!!!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 12, 2013, 10:04:49 AM
I would think ERs are going to be overrun with people without coverage.  That's been a problem but I can see how it would be even worse now.  If you have no insurance now and need help where are you going especially if you never had a regular doctor you visited?  That could get real ugly, real fast especially since the free stuff crowd still expects their free stuff. They aren't going to understand there's no free stuff.

People with coverage are going to discover their companies at some point won't be able to cover their expenses. A lot of people are going to be owed money that won't get paid.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 12, 2013, 10:51:35 AM
ObamaCare:

"Life's a Glitch...& then You Die"
(Our death-panels guarantee it!)

.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Blog%20Art/Twitter_zps63e9f0d8.jpg)
#AndThenYouDie

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2013, 12:00:10 PM
Slick Willie to Obama (paraphrased): "Prez Hector Elizondo...er, Obama...fukced up, uhh, should fix the fukc up that happened, even if it means swallowing his ginormous ego, umm, I mean trick the GOP House Republicans using those fools in Senate GOP caucus again, and uhh, change this thing so folks getting policies dropped as a result of ObamaCare, er ahh, the ACA Congress passed in the dark of night, umm, rather with bipartisan support, and stop these pissed off people from attacking us, er, aim them back at the GOP, so we can get back to business as usual and fukc up another segment of the economy, umm, do the people's work."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/bill-clinton-obama-should-keep-his-commitment-let-americans-keep-their-insurance-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/bill-clinton-obama-should-keep-his-commitment-let-americans-keep-their-insurance-video/)

Seriously, has this been walked back yet?

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 12, 2013, 01:12:32 PM
I think Bill's setting up the dutiful little woman. 

 ::thinking::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 12, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
I think Bill's setting up the dutiful little woman. 

 ::thinking::

yep
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 12, 2013, 07:30:17 PM
My personal opinion about Slick is that this is payback for O'Bongo playing the race card against him during the first campaign. Clinton never forgets stuff like that and is very patient about exacting his revenge. This looks a lot like that.

What Clinton has done is give just about any Democrat political cover to attack DumbassCare and an awful lot of them are looking for an escape hatch right about now. Feinstein came out for Landrieu's bill today with the news that CA has a million policy cancellations on the books to date.

The thing is...with each new legislator moving in that direction the political cover just gets bigger so look for an escalation in the next couple of days.

And Slick started it with this little insignificant interview on a website that no one has ever heard of before. And that was intentional, too. Slick didn't want to cause any trouble for his media buddies by making such a statement on one of their outlets. But once it's out there the MFMs can then dutifully report it...which they have done and are doing...I started hearing it on the radio about mid afternoon.

Slick has identified DumbassCare for what it is, a tar baby, and he wants to make sure that it sticks to O'Bongo and that it becomes more and more of a solo act by giving legislators political cover to desert the dumbass in chief. Not that that will help them in the midterms but Slick doesn't care about that, either. The Clintons are in it for the Clintons.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2013, 07:22:38 AM
Right.

And the Pubbies will go along with the legislative fix and hail it as a huge win and expect massive legislative gains in 2014 and a clean sweep in 2016...

I don't see a massive gain in 2014 but more of a middling split that keeps the status quo...and when they get out-manunevered in 2016 they'll just blame conservatives, the Tea Party and Libertarians again.

And we'll be stuck with the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi as POTUS.

This admission that ObamaCare was a lie and a scam from the get-go should not be wasted away to keep ObamaCare in place...it should be used to entirely repeal it and beat the Left into submission!

Anybody really see the latter happening?!  I'd really like to see it, I'd really like to support it and heck yeah I'll scream it at them...but...

Somebody throw me a lifeline here?!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on November 13, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
Right.

And the Pubbies will go along with the legislative fix and hail it as a huge win and expect massive legislative gains in 2014 and a clean sweep in 2016...

I don't see a massive gain in 2014 but more of a middling split that keeps the status quo...and when they get out-manunevered in 2016 they'll just blame conservatives, the Tea Party and Libertarians again.

And we'll be stuck with the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi as POTUS.

This admission that ObamaCare was a lie and a scam from the get-go should not be wasted away to keep ObamaCare in place...it should be used to entirely repeal it and beat the Left into submission!

Anybody really see the latter happening?!  I'd really like to see it, I'd really like to support it and heck yeah I'll scream it at them...but...

Somebody throw me a lifeline here?!

This is exactly how it will go Libertas.  Republicans at best, will pick up a few seats in the House in 2014,  it won't be earth shattering at all.   The senate will remain in Democrats hands,  maybe a seat up or down.   I think Republicans have little chance at regaining the Senate or getting a worthwhile majority in the House.    The Obamacare mess will result in very little loss for Democrats in Congress.   

If there would be a blowout,  it will be the other way,  Democrats regaining the House and picking up a few seats in the Senate to take a bigger majority.    It shouldn't be possible with the mess they have made,  but in this political arena,  they may make out very well or at least not lose too much.    Elections are still a year away,  the Obamacare mess will die down no matter how bad it makes things.   The media will lose the little attention they have with it,  or Democrats will manage to flick the blame to big bad insurance companies and their Republican buddies,  changing the narrative.   They will get out the low info voters in droves to protect Obamacare from evil rich Republicans.       

Lets say Republican pick up a few seats in the House and Democrats keep the Senate.  Basically the status quo.   There will be some minor "fixes" that won't really fix anything.    The Republicans will claim victory, and think they will be rewarded at the ballot box,   but the majority of Obamacare remains,  and then they put up a lame candidate in 2016 (like Christie).    Then Hillary becomes president likely with a Democrat Congress to boot.   

Meanwhile Barry gets to replace another member of the Supreme Court (either one of the oldest liberals with a young liberal or replacing yo-yo Kennedy with a young liberal),  ending any hope of the court cutting down Obamacare with Obama still in office.    Hillary then gets some chances at replacing justices then too,  likely getting to replace a older conservative with a young liberal.   That will be the end of the so called "conservative" court.  Roberts then will spend his career writing minority opinions as the liberal court rewrites the remaining constitution with something nobody here would recognize. 

Then it won't really matter if conservatives ever win the White House or Congress,   liberals will run the country via the Supreme Court since we wouldn't be able to vote them out.   

The Obama regime would last decades owning the court,  even if he leaves office peacefully in January 2017.   

The options are not good,  and I don't see Republicans pulling out of this political suicide.  Establishment Republicans seem hellbent on throwing the tea party and other conservatives to the curb.   When the tea party and conservatives are  gone for good,  they will never win another election.   Who do they think will vote for them?   Democrats may like McLame,  but they will NEVER vote for him.   Why would they when they could have a real Democrat.   

And I don't see the tea party and other conservatives and libertarians getting a real new party going in time to stop the liberal dictatorship.    I think it would take at least twenty years to get a new major party going,  and we ain't got twenty years.   

Things look very very bad.   I hope I am wrong,  and people at least vote for the lame Republicans to slow the decline,  but the end result is likely the same.   

Conservatives may be the majority,  but they don't control a major party,  and have very few people to vote for. 

That is a political question that should be answered.   How has the majority of the country been ignored so long with so little political consequences for politicians?   

 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on November 13, 2013, 05:22:20 PM
Every pinnacle gives way to another pinnacle. It's never ending for this SOB.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 13, 2013, 06:22:17 PM
And I don't see the tea party and other conservatives and libertarians getting a real new party going in time to stop the liberal dictatorship.    I think it would take at least twenty years to get a new major party going,  and we ain't got twenty years.   

Things look very very bad.   I hope I am wrong,  and people at least vote for the lame Republicans to slow the decline,  but the end result is likely the same.   


Yeah, that won't happen, because the dollar will have collapsed and lost reserve currency status by then. There is no way the world's financial house of cards is going to remain standing another 10 years much less twenty. When the dollar goes, so does Federal power if they don't have a police state in place. 
And even if none of this happens, the US will decline into 3rd world status because that is what Communism does , every time, as Venezuela is trying to prove yet again,   and the Fed will loose power simply because it has no revenue ( which contributes to problem one- the dollar killing debt)  In the 3rd world, you don't pay taxes..you bribe the tax man.  You don't go to jail,  you bribe the police. All govt positions turn into methods to shake money out of people. The rule of law dies. The police help only the rich, and many will be free to "explain" to the leftists why they were wrong using blunt trauma.  Their battle, as always, is with reality. Their "dictatorship"  will fail for the same reasons such systems always fail.

You are correct there is no political fix to this. The point of no return has been passed financially.  The Democrats can rule in the last days if it pleases them. They will only make things worse faster - and at that point, that is what we want.  Let it burn.  I want to see them driven before the reality they have created and hear the lamentations of their women.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 13, 2013, 10:40:39 PM
Wow.

I can't possibly disagree more, richb. Not that we don't have more than a few reasons to do the full on eeyore.

We do.

I mean, we need only look as close as the GOP leadership and its obstinate death wish to cling to repeatedly proven losing strategies to see more fail on the horizon.

The thing is, though...we have a secret weapon and that weapon is DumbassCare. We still can't run on nothing but all we have to do is say that we want to repeal the damned thing and that should do it. Anything else (and I do mean practically anything) is gravy. And that's because going into 2014 and most certainly by 2016 the voting public is going to be ready for anything at all that 1) gets rid of DumbassCare and 2) isn't DumbassCare.

The Democrats own this.

And I do believe that it is a serious mistake to pay more than lip service to "fixing" it. Fixing DumbassCare should be a political move only with no actual results. The GOP needs to be seen as sympathetic to the idea of reducing or eliminating the pain but that's as far as it should go. DumbassCare is a solely owned subsidiary of the Democrat party, it's radioactive and they should be saddled with it for all of eternity.

And it's not going to get better. It is going to get worse. A lot worse. It can't be fixed and if the Democrats ever get to the point where they cry, "uncle" and decide to repeal it themselves even that won't make things better. I stand by my claim that we (as a nation) are in uncharted territory now and that no one knows where this will go or where it will end up. The only thing that can be said is that there will be damage done all along the way. It is inevitable.

If you could snap your fingers and magically make things suddenly go as well as possible for the Democrats to extricate themselves from the tar baby it would go like this: Tomorrow the president comes clean, apologizes profusely and sincerely for everything and resigns from office with the one parting admonition to his party that they repeal it immediately. Then president Biden leads the Democrats (and House GOP) to repeal it immediately with the urgency, speed and bipartisanship we saw put into the Patriot Act after 9/11. And then they somehow bail out the insurance companies that they have screwed over and assume all responsibility for those new policy holders that, in a normal insurance world, are uninsurable under any circumstances. They also assume any and all responsibility for anyone left in the lurch due to forced DumbassCare policy cancellations.

But that's a fantasy that will never happen. O'Bongo is not going to sincerely apologize, not ever. O'Bongo is not going to resign, not ever. And he will never, ever allow a repeal bill of any kind to get anything other than a veto. Same for any other bill that would damage if not outright kill his signature (and singular) achievement as president, not ever. This guy has a monumental ego. He has a colossal ego. He has an ego worthy of a demi-god. He has been told all of his life how wonderful he is and he believes it. This is the the country's first affirmative action president and that's that. We are stuck with him and so are the Democrats.

So there isn't going to be a fix. Not until O'Bongo is out of office. Or until the GOP has enough votes in congress to get a veto proof bill passed. And that could happen. It would be the most judicious irony of all if the final two years of King O'Bongo's second term were the polar opposite of the first two years of his first term with a super majority of GOP members running the country through the congress over top of the president. I know that that, too, is fantasy but I do not believe that the midterms are going to be bad for the GOP. I think that they are going to be pretty good despite any BS GOP civil war.

The voters are going to be blaming everything on O'Bongo and the Democrats for a very long time. And that's not a fantasy. Ironic, yes, after GWB getting the blame for everything for the last five years but it will happen. We are seeing it begin to happen right now with O'Bongo's plunging poll numbers. His polling numbers aren't going to come back any more than Carter's did. It just isn't going to happen. The guy is now a punch line and soon he will be a punching bag. His own party is going to run against him and not because they want to but because they will have to. It will be non-negotiable. Mandatory.

No, I think that the GOP is going to come out of this okay. In spite of itself. And the only thing that it needs to advance is new leadership. I don't know who or when but if it does happen there won't be a damned thing that will be able to stop it. After several years of DumbassCare devastation it will be impossible to stop it.

That's the way that I would like to see things go, anyway.

Not that the whole stinking economy and country won't plunge into the abyss, though. I think that's inevitable, too. But I think that Democrats and liberals will be so politically radioactive that maybe we have a chance at having some sane people in charge when we need them most. And that's not unprecedented, either. Remember: We could have had Algore running the country when islamists attacked and we didn't.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 13, 2013, 10:58:20 PM
Oh, and Markos is reduced to this. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/13/1255362/-The-Landrieu-amendment-and-the-politics-of-Obamacare)

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With enrollment data coming in well below expectations and President Barack Obama's numbers hitting all-time lows, it's clear that the botched Obamacare implementation has become a bona fide political problem.

The enrollment numbers are actually not that terrible. While the media and Republicans are focusing on the roughly 100K that have chosen a plan, fact is that 846,000 have completed their applications, but haven't chosen a plan. Part of that is technical difficulties. Part of that is people doing their due diligence before making an important decision. Part of it is procrastination. Why spend too much time now doing something that won't take effect until January?

It is pure doom and gloom over there. Not that they are openly admitting it, they aren't. But they are trying to find anything...anything at all...to discuss other than DumbassCare. The comments are the key to the truth. The Kos fever swamp is usually over run with commenters and comments but most of the big headline posts have less than 75 comments and only a two or three of their articles have in excess of 100 comments and that includes the one above.

They are depressed.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 13, 2013, 11:14:06 PM
And idea for an office pool:

On what day will the admin (via HHS or other) announce that the Healthcare.gov website is to be shuttered for the foreseeable future?

I will go on record as saying that it will be November 29th (black Friday so best possible scenario for a news dump).

Tie breaker: Who will make the announcement? (doesn't have to be by name...can be by function)

I think that the announcement will be by the guy running the "tech surge."

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 13, 2013, 11:47:56 PM
This tempts me to use the "C" word.

When Senator Mary Landrieu is asked if she wants to apologize to the people of Lousiana, like Obama did to the country, she laughs: (video) (http://therightscoop.com/sen-mary-landrieu-laughs-when-wolf-blitzer-asks-if-she-wants-to-apologize-to-people-of-louisiana/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 14, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
This tempts me to use the "C" word.

When Senator Mary Landrieu is asked if she wants to apologize to the people of Lousiana, like Obama did to the country, she laughs: (video) (http://therightscoop.com/sen-mary-landrieu-laughs-when-wolf-blitzer-asks-if-she-wants-to-apologize-to-people-of-louisiana/)

Problem is that she will probably get re-elected because there will most likely be two R's running against her. LA allows an open ballot and without a primary to get her opponent down to one the R vote gets split. Plus, she is a Landrieu and that's an institutional Democrat name in LA...like Kennedy in MA. They are too stupid to use their brains and realize that she votes against their interests.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 14, 2013, 02:37:38 AM
He has an ego worthy of a demi-god.

So King Putz got demoted?  The things you learn.

Kos:

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The enrollment numbers are actually not that terrible. While the media and Republicans are focusing on the roughly 100K that have chosen a plan, fact is that 846,000 have completed their applications, but haven't chosen a plan

Yeah, just like on-line retailers add all the shopping cart items to their sales figures.

They are depressed.

Did you see the first comment?

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* [new]  Tip Jar (131+ / 0-)

by kos on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 01:37:59 PM PST

Begging is always a good barometer of being secure.

I scanned some of the comments there.  They are all mathematically and economically challenged.  What else is new for a lib'ral, right?  They will not see that with increased insurance premiums on top of higher deductibles, people will have less disposable income to put into the economy.  With less money put back into the economy, there will be fewer jobs required.  Once the layoffs start, an already horrible economy will take a serious nosedive.  And yet the ACA is a great idea.  It still amazes me how logic is an alien concept to those morons.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 14, 2013, 08:03:45 AM
 Obamacare Schadenfreudarama  (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363907/obamacare-schadenfreudarama-jonah-goldberg)

The very pinnacle of schadenfreude column writing.  So much quotable.  So far, this is the definite obituary of Obamacare.

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The hubris of our ocean-commanding commander-in-chief surely isn’t news to readers of this website. He’s said that he’s smarter and better than everyone who works for him. His wife informed us that he has “brought us out of the dark and into the light” and that he would fix our broken souls. The man defined sin itself as “being out of alignment with my values.” We may be the ones we’ve been waiting for, but at the same time, everyone has been waiting for him. Or as he put it in 2007, “Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama’s been there.”

In every tale of hubris, the transgressor is eventually slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality....

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 14, 2013, 08:46:29 AM

I mean, we need only look as close as the GOP leadership and its obstinate death wish to cling to repeatedly proven losing strategies to see more fail on the horizon.

The thing is, though...we have a secret weapon and that weapon is DumbassCare. We still can't run on nothing but all we have to do is say that we want to repeal the damned thing and that should do it. Anything else (and I do mean practically anything) is gravy. And that's because going into 2014 and most certainly by 2016 the voting public is going to be ready for anything at all that 1) gets rid of DumbassCare and 2) isn't DumbassCare.

The second statement is negated by the first.  Dumbasscare certainly has the potential to be a victory, but the GOP will not seize upon it. They work for and sympathize with the Democrats, and even if the GOP retakes both houses,  there will not be enough Tea-Party in there to repeal.  They will "fix it" - and they will "fix it" according to democrats demands.  Force doctors to accept medicaid patients.  Everyone is now eligible for Medicaid. Everyone pays the tax penalty specified.

Nor is it clear the Democrats will "Own this" one either.  The Media will spin it, and the LIV will take it as truth. The greedy insurance companies plotted to destroy the system.  The Website didn't work because it was under attack from and sabotaged by domestic terrorists ( The left is already circulating a meme in which the Koch brothers caused the website failures..)  In a year the new normal of the disaster will be accepted. Not to mention that the Democrats have already made it clear they are capable of generating fraud to the degree of 100-108%  of the Vote for Obama.  The Dems will not lose any seats they are unwilling to loose.  Its all one party on the hill now, and the results of our elections are more fixed than the WWF bouts. They were illegally kicking out election judges, and the GOP is legally bound to not file a complaint.  As a result ( and one of the few times I disagree with Dr.  Sowell) the GOP isn't the vehicle for bringing about  political change.  A third party must form if there is to be any hope of it, and that will result in split votes and Dem wins for 10 years.  I am firmly convinced that a vote for the GOP is a vote to continue the Status Quo, and a vote against a third party ever forming. (and it wouldn't stay a third party for long- like the Whigs,  the GOP is done for soon as a 3rd party reaches critical mass)

Bottom line, there is no political solution available. Its okay if the Dems have totalitarian control of the doomed regime.. The faster they destroy things, the more people wake up, and the less time they have to implement a police state. It is now in our best interest to let it burn. Its not our country, the separation of powers has failed,  the Constitution and Bill of Rights lost, and the people who support the regime are our enemy- willing to enslave us at gun point. We owe them nothing but getting out of the way and letting them reap what they have sown.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 14, 2013, 09:08:49 AM
Have to wonder how many people who logged on to the website just to take a look and not buy like reporters and supporters?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 14, 2013, 10:00:14 AM
Obamacare Schadenfreudarama  (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363907/obamacare-schadenfreudarama-jonah-goldberg)

The very pinnacle of schadenfreude column writing.  So much quotable.  So far, this is the definite obituary of Obamacare.

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The hubris of our ocean-commanding commander-in-chief surely isn’t news to readers of this website. He’s said that he’s smarter and better than everyone who works for him. His wife informed us that he has “brought us out of the dark and into the light” and that he would fix our broken souls. The man defined sin itself as “being out of alignment with my values.” We may be the ones we’ve been waiting for, but at the same time, everyone has been waiting for him. Or as he put it in 2007, “Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama’s been there.”

In every tale of hubris, the transgressor is eventually slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality....



The linked Goldberg column is REQUIRED reading. It's very, very good.

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If you can’t take some joy, some modicum of relief and mirth, in the unprecedentedly spectacular beclowning of the president, his administration, its enablers, and, to no small degree, liberalism itself, then you need to ask yourself why you’re following politics in the first place. Because, frankly, this has been one of the most enjoyable political moments of my lifetime. I wake up in the morning and rush to find my just-delivered newspaper with a joyful expectation of worsening news so intense, I feel like Morgan Freeman should be narrating my trek to the front lawn. Indeed, not since Dan Rather handcuffed himself to a fraudulent typewriter, hurled it into the abyss, and saw his career plummet like Ted Kennedy was behind the wheel have I enjoyed a story more.

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In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, it took about five minutes for liberals to cast the chaos and confusion of the disaster as a searing indictment of not just the Bush administration but of conservatism itself. Whatever the merits of that argument (and there are not many), Katrina was at least a surprise. The October 1 deadline for Obamacare was set by Obama’s own administration years ago — and it caught them completely off guard. The president may now claim that he knew nothing, but he must have wondered why Henry Chao, Healthcare.gov’s chief project manager, set the bar of success at sea level last March: “Let’s just make sure it’s not a Third World experience.” At this point, it could only be more of a Third World experience if Healthcare.gov required enrollees to pay with chickens.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 14, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
yes, read the whole thing

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Few critics grasped at first that this was going to be the Charlie Sheen of IT launches — a spectacularly mortifying failure, punctuated with desperate shrieks of “Winning!”

It wasn’t until later that we learned that, of the uncountable hordes flocking to the federal exchanges that first day, the number who actually registered for an insurance plan totaled exactly six. At that rate, Obamacare would reach its target of 7 million enrollees around the year 5013, or 3022 a.o. (Anno Obamae).
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 14, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your mouse has got nothin' to do
Some website's still trying' to do that for you

 ::guitar::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 14, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
Obamacare Schadenfreudarama  (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363907/obamacare-schadenfreudarama-jonah-goldberg)

Saw this, early AM, linked via Twitter & thought of this thread - terrific read. I got to shake Mr. Goldberg's hand 2 October's ago @ a conservative NJ forum.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 14, 2013, 12:58:26 PM
Watching this crash and burn gives me zero satisfaction when weighed against the very real crime of robbing millions of men, women, and children of their access to health insurance.

It is the fruit of that crime that will have the GOP stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. They will not be able to stand by while millions suffer, and thus, they will co-own Obamacare and the foregone disaster.

A bailout is coming, I'm telling you guys. To bailout or not to bailout is going to be the narrative going into 2014. The Tea Party GOP will be cast as against the hardworking middle-class men and women who have lost their healthcare through no fault of their own due to a " glitch", and there will be Republicans (like McCain, for one instance) who will aid the Leftists with that narrative.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 14, 2013, 01:40:18 PM
Watching this crash and burn gives me zero satisfaction when weighed against the very real crime of robbing millions of men, women, and children of their access to health insurance.

It is the fruit of that crime that will have the GOP stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. They will not be able to stand by while millions suffer, and thus, they will co-own Obamacare and the foregone disaster.

A bailout is coming, I'm telling you guys. To bailout or not to bailout is going to be the narrative going into 2014. The Tea Party GOP will be cast as against the hardworking middle-class men and women who have lost their healthcare through no fault of their own due to a " glitch", and there will be Republicans (like McCain, for one instance) who will aid the Leftists with that narrative.

I was upstairs a few days ago stacking some new books on my bed-stand (not that my physical location is terribly important to this narrative) and was overwhelmed by a feeling that - even though we are going to fight like hell & continue to have abuse heaped upon us as "teabaggers" & other immature rants - that this, right now, is the beginning of events working against the left due to the overwhelming & catastrophic failure that ObamaCare, and the mentality behind it, has wrought: culturally, economically & as regards the suffering you mention & which we are all witnessing.

Unless they truly are going to enforce this with militant police, armored vehicles & bullets (not scoffing at that option) they either have to drastically rethink this or be ready to slaughter the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of us who are going to physically fight back. And I do not think they are ready, culturally or literally, to pull that trigger.

There's obviously no hiding the fact that Obama is a complete & utter incompetent ideologue - but now, with millions getting slammed, I think there's no other sane option but to walk it back and attempt their communistic overreach further down the road. That process will force latent leadership out of the woodwork & demand that others develop backbone @ lightning speed (i.e. stop zipping their pants up the side).

So, that being said, I will either go down in flames, a complete idiot (not that 1 or 2 here don't already think that  ;D) - or I will be correct & we will live to plot our revolution another day, and survive this as$hole/Muslim/Commie bastard's presidency.

I'm prepared...either way.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 14, 2013, 02:03:17 PM

Unless they truly are going to enforce this with militant police, armored vehicles & bullets (not scoffing at that option) they either have to drastically rethink this or be ready to slaughter the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of us who are going to physically fight back. And I do not think they are ready, culturally or literally, to pull that trigger.

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When have the leftist NOT been ready to pull that trigger? Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao all did it. Bill Ayers wanted to do it, and there is no reason to suspect the die hard eugenicist crowd in the White House won't as well.  With history as a guide them not doing it would be the surprise.


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So, that being said, I will either go down in flames, a complete idiot (not that 1 or 2 here don't already think that  ;D) - or I will be correct & we will live to plot our revolution another day, and survive this as$hole/Muslim/Commie bastard's presidency.

The Country already didn't survive. The Republic is gone and anything that continues on under the current system will continue to be a corrupt, useless entitity incapable of living up to its founding, and unable to recognize citizens as the sovereigns.  And even if I am wrong about that, the structure  certainly  isn't going to survive the dollar collapse and there is no stopping that now.  As for individuals, the only way we will survive this presidency and  the changes it has wrought, is if there is a war. Otherwise, eventually, we will all be squashed under its jack boots.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 14, 2013, 02:53:22 PM
I don't know if Republicans can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, if SCoaMF just took the issue off the table with his unilateral power grab.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 14, 2013, 04:36:14 PM
I don't know if Republicans can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, if SCoaMF just took the issue off the table with his unilateral power grab.

As Ace points out, now's the time to challenge the law on the grounds that executive whim removes the separation of powers.

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Limbaugh spoke about the fundamental lawlessness of all this: Using DrewM's language, he noted that Obama was once again "waving his magic wand" to make parts of the law disappear or reappear or transmutate at will.

I would like to propose a lawsuit to repeal Obamacare on this basis. The Constitution does not permit executive law-making, and apparently executive law-making is central to Obamacare. The law violates our Constitution on separation of powers grounds.

This is, as Charles C.W. Cooke put it, pure Chavez-level banana republic tyranny, and the nation will not stand if this is permitted.

The entire country has standing to sue for repeal now that the law is in effect, except when Owebama deems it not to be in effect, as he just did with delaying the individual mandate, not repealing it, mind you, just delaying it, as if that will fix this clusterfukc of a law.  If this administration couldn't get a proper website up and running in the time it took for this Country to fight and win WWII, then the government has no business running our Nation's health insurance and health care.

This 'executive law-making' by whim is patently unconstitutional.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 14, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
From Boobie the Rocket Dog via Iowntheworld

The Kenyan fix.
africa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OctdNoaHfCI#)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 15, 2013, 01:27:32 AM
This just needs to be here. Now don't get me wrong...I don't like listening to or watching this idiot any more than you do. But what we are seeing here is the exception to what we have been used to...King Putt not happy...King Putt sad...King Putt sort of pissy...King Putt's entourage kinda sorta asking a few kinda sorta difficult questions that King Putt not handle very well...King Putt no have em best buddy teleprompter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QLXlDglaZs#t=147 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QLXlDglaZs#t=147)

And, now for the schadenboner part: Mary Katerine Ham (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/14/the-ignorant-omniscience-of-president-obama/) weighs in with her take on today's festivities...

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He knows everything. And yet he seems to know nothing. He’s passionate about the details of domestic policy but wasn’t privy to the details of his own legacy law. He’s an academic with a command of every issue at once but seemingly only finds out what his administration is doing in news reports. He’s so brilliant every normal endeavor he’s tried has bored him, but he couldn’t bother to entertain himself with more than one monthly meeting on the make-or-break program of his presidency. He’s the captain of the Culture of Competency who has overseen the most incompetent rollout of an entitlement program in history.

I was struck by a moment in President Obama’s press conference today where this paradox was on full display. The president floated, throughout the press conference, from profession of utter ignorance to confident declaration and directive. Allahpundit noted that Obama distanced himself from the website’s problems by saying he was never informed of its problems. He knew nothing.

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Apparently entirely ignorant of the process of buying insurance, the president decided to demand an overhaul of the entire insurance industry, building the purchasing mechanism himself.

So, when you know something pertinent about federal technology failures that could increase the chances of success for your pet project, do nothing. When you know absolutely nothing about the subject of your ambitious pet project to remake 1/6 of the economy, try to do everything. And, when you do nothing with the knowledge you do have to prevent the Charlie Foxtrot created by your insistence on acting, ahem, audaciously with knowledge you don’t have, insist that your lack of knowledge is proof of your intelligence. Hey, I’m smart enough that if I knew this was going to be such a lumbering catastrophe, I wouldn’t have said those dumb things about how it would be great!

There are going to be more pressers like this. That you can take to the bank.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 15, 2013, 02:01:02 AM
Time to start hammering Chocolate Jesus with this rephrased Watergate accusation:  What didn't the President know and when didn't he know it?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 15, 2013, 06:41:50 AM
Should we refer to him as President Paradox? He's both here and not here at the same time depending on which side of space time you yourself are occupying. Definitely a load of chit in every reality.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 15, 2013, 07:05:54 AM
President Schrödinger's Cat.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics)

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After Apology, Obama Vows to 'Push Back' Against Healthcare Critics

Hours after President Barack Obama declared in a Thursday White House press conference that he "fumbled the roll out on this health care law" and said "that's on me," Obama delivered a defiant speech at a Cleveland plant wherein he vowed to "push back" against the swelling chorus of Americans opposed to Obamacare.

"We are not going to gut this law," said Obama. "And those who say they're opposed to it and can't offer a solution, we'll push back!"

Obama added: "Our politics get screwed up sometimes. Websites don't work sometimes. But we just keep going."

The President's strident tone represented a striking contrast to his press conference statements uttered shortly before his Cleveland remarks. 

"I understand why folks are frustrated. I would be, too," Obama said during his press conference. "Ultimately I'm the President of the United States and they expect me to do something about it."

Obama's recalcitrant posture may strain already tense relations with nervous Democrats facing reelection in less than a year.

"Right now you have Democrats on Capitol Hill in a full panic," said NBC's Chuck Todd. "They've been nervous about this rollout, they've been upset about the website, but now they're in a full on panic."

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that Obama's job approval rating has plunged to its "lowest point ever," as just 39% of Americans now approve of the job he is doing.

Obamacare will cost U.S. taxpayers $2.6 trillion over the next 10 years.

He's sorry one day, except when he's defiant later that same day.  We've seen this before where he contradicts himself in the same bloody speech.  At least this time, there was a plane trip in between the contradictions.

If only the Stupid Party would keep up the pressure.  The thin-skinned Owebama will crack like a rotten egg, and smell just as sulphurous.  He literally cannot stand the heat of rebellion at his magnanimous polices.

Don't you just love how President You Can Keep Your Plan signed a fukced up bill (which he never read) into law, added 20,000 pages of regs to fukc up the law even more, then expects others to bail his scrawny @ss out of this clusterfukc of his own making?  The man truly is pathologically delusional.  I'm not sure at this point whether the hubris inherent in an NPD diagnosis even begins to cover a sociopath like Owebama.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2013, 07:31:59 AM
Should we refer to him as President Paradox? He's both here and not here at the same time depending on which side of space time you yourself are occupying. Definitely a load of chit in every reality.

That's good.  But I like President Litterbox, he just drops scat everywhere and prances off thinking his shyt don't stink!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2013, 07:36:22 AM
President Schrödinger's Cat.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/14/Defiant-Obama-Says-He-Will-Push-Back-Against-Obamacare-Critics)

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After Apology, Obama Vows to 'Push Back' Against Healthcare Critics

Hours after President Barack Obama declared in a Thursday White House press conference that he "fumbled the roll out on this health care law" and said "that's on me," Obama delivered a defiant speech at a Cleveland plant wherein he vowed to "push back" against the swelling chorus of Americans opposed to Obamacare.

"We are not going to gut this law," said Obama. "And those who say they're opposed to it and can't offer a solution, we'll push back!"

Obama added: "Our politics get screwed up sometimes. Websites don't work sometimes. But we just keep going."

The President's strident tone represented a striking contrast to his press conference statements uttered shortly before his Cleveland remarks. 

"I understand why folks are frustrated. I would be, too," Obama said during his press conference. "Ultimately I'm the President of the United States and they expect me to do something about it."

Obama's recalcitrant posture may strain already tense relations with nervous Democrats facing reelection in less than a year.

"Right now you have Democrats on Capitol Hill in a full panic," said NBC's Chuck Todd. "They've been nervous about this rollout, they've been upset about the website, but now they're in a full on panic."

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that Obama's job approval rating has plunged to its "lowest point ever," as just 39% of Americans now approve of the job he is doing.

Obamacare will cost U.S. taxpayers $2.6 trillion over the next 10 years.

He's sorry one day, except when he's defiant later that same day.  We've seen this before where he contradicts himself in the same bloody speech.  At least this time, there was a plane trip in between the contradictions.

If only the Stupid Party would keep up the pressure.  The thin-skinned Owebama will crack like a rotten egg, and smell just as sulphurous.  He literally cannot stand the heat of rebellion at his magnanimous polices.

Don't you just love how President You Can Keep Your Plan signed a fukced up bill (which he never read) into law, added 20,000 pages of regs to fukc up the law even more, then expects others to bail his scrawny @ss out of this clusterfukc of his own making?  The man truly is pathologically delusional.  I'm not sure at this point whether the hubris inherent in an NPD diagnosis even begins to cover a sociopath like Owebama.

The time is now for everybody who wants to stand in opposition to Obamacare and the jackasses who gave us this crap to beat it down or die trying...there are no more hills to wait for, this one will kill you if you don't kill it!  If this crap stands there is nothing that can stop amnesty for illegals and every other progressive wet dream from becoming reality...they have to vote on nothing but repeal and defunding Obamacare at the exclusion of all else no matter what the cost, period.  Failure to do so is a final and complete failure.  And if the government has to stay shut down through election day, so be it, this is the hill, there are no others, live or die...that is the choice!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 15, 2013, 10:03:03 AM
I'm not even all the way through it but this is today's must read column.

When the Obama Magic Died (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304243904579196440800552408)

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Forgive the personal reference, but from the very beginning of Mr. Obama's astonishing rise, I felt that I was witnessing something old and familiar. My advantage owed nothing to any mastery of American political history. I was guided by my immersion in the political history of the Arab world and of a life studying Third World societies.

Nails it.  I'm sure much more will be quotable.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2013, 11:22:15 AM
I'm not even all the way through it but this is today's must read column.

When the Obama Magic Died (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304243904579196440800552408)

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Forgive the personal reference, but from the very beginning of Mr. Obama's astonishing rise, I felt that I was witnessing something old and familiar. My advantage owed nothing to any mastery of American political history. I was guided by my immersion in the political history of the Arab world and of a life studying Third World societies.

Nails it.  I'm sure much more will be quotable.

I find it difficult to believe the bloom is off the Magic Negro rose when people were hypnotized by this bullsh*tter not once but twice...ignorance is one thing...stupidity is quite another and lasts a lot longer!  Once the next charismatic libiot comes along these brainless sacks of bacteria will forget all about Obama and wax euphoric over the next Duh Wun!

ETA - It must be stupid racist negro day too, and we didn't even know it!

Oblahmah -  "...they’re struggling because of the way the system works isn’t giving them a fair shot."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/outrageous-obama-bashes-america-the-system-doesnt-give-people-a-fair-shot-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/outrageous-obama-bashes-america-the-system-doesnt-give-people-a-fair-shot-video/)

Yes, yes...SSDD...America sucks, America racist...blah, blah, blah...

And I disagree with the shooting people quip...I can be very fair about the people I could shoot!

And in the "this is monumentally stupid but thanks for getting the GOP out of fixing this shyt department"we have Obama threatening to veto the fix to his fukcup!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/figures-obama-threatens-to-veto-his-own-promise/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/figures-obama-threatens-to-veto-his-own-promise/)

 ::hysterical::

And Orca throwing the racist label around like it is one of her fat Orca fins...

"There’s a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs in some cases and maybe even many cases because he’s African American."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/oprah-hurls-more-charges-of-racism-america-hates-obama-because-hes-black-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/oprah-hurls-more-charges-of-racism-america-hates-obama-because-hes-black-video/)

Orca, you ignorant whale...we don't disrespect the offce, we disrespect him, because he is a constitution-killing, job-destroying, health-enslaving fascist arogant piece of scat!  Got it, idiot?!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2013, 11:43:35 AM
As for the Upton bill to fix   ::facepalm::  ObamaCare...

Admiral Ackbar - "It's A Trap!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA#ws)

More Schadenfreude unleashed...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=212723 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=212723)

These are good:

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/save-us-technology/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/save-us-technology/)

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/and-dont-forget-the-18th-amendment/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/and-dont-forget-the-18th-amendment/)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 15, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
Even the stupid are going to stop listening to a person who keeps pushing the blame on others after saying he's going to do something for you.

After all, there are only so many times you're going to believe daddy's bringing you a pony before you finally realize he's not. You move on with the knowledge he let you down.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 15, 2013, 01:11:46 PM
http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/save-us-technology[/url (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/11/save-us-technology/)

I have a problem with this one.  The technology may be outdated, but it worked.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 15, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Oprah is the very embodiment of Ugly American.  What's surprising is that people are still giving the hag the time of day, after her last adventure into made up stories about racism.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 15, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
Oprah is the very embodiment of Ugly American.  What's surprising is that people are still giving the hag the time of day, after her last adventure into made up stories about racism.

Not only that, but she was given a free pass, too, for attending Wright's racist Black Liberation Theology church.

Yet the beeyotch made her money off white women.  Racist skank ho.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on November 15, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
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Yet the beeyotch made her money off white women.

White women made her rich and famous.

And Whites elected Obongo, twice.

There's not enough Blacks in this country to have done that for them, by themselves.

So, what the hell is she talking about?  Same sht -- raaaacisss, raaacissm.  Broken record.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on November 15, 2013, 03:34:28 PM


And, now for the schadenboner part: Mary Katerine Ham (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/14/the-ignorant-omniscience-of-president-obama/) weighs in with her take on today's festivities...

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He knows everything. And yet he seems to know nothing. He’s passionate about the details of domestic policy but wasn’t privy to the details of his own legacy law. He’s an academic with a command of every issue at once but seemingly only finds out what his administration is doing in news reports. He’s so brilliant every normal endeavor he’s tried has bored him, but he couldn’t bother to entertain himself with more than one monthly meeting on the make-or-break program of his presidency. He’s the captain of the Culture of Competency who has overseen the most incompetent rollout of an entitlement program in history.

I was struck by a moment in President Obama’s press conference today where this paradox was on full display. The president floated, throughout the press conference, from profession of utter ignorance to confident declaration and directive. Allahpundit noted that Obama distanced himself from the website’s problems by saying he was never informed of its problems. He knew nothing.

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Apparently entirely ignorant of the process of buying insurance, the president decided to demand an overhaul of the entire insurance industry, building the purchasing mechanism himself.

So, when you know something pertinent about federal technology failures that could increase the chances of success for your pet project, do nothing. When you know absolutely nothing about the subject of your ambitious pet project to remake 1/6 of the economy, try to do everything. And, when you do nothing with the knowledge you do have to prevent the Charlie Foxtrot created by your insistence on acting, ahem, audaciously with knowledge you don’t have, insist that your lack of knowledge is proof of your intelligence. Hey, I’m smart enough that if I knew this was going to be such a lumbering catastrophe, I wouldn’t have said those dumb things about how it would be great!

There are going to be more pressers like this. That you can take to the bank.

Either way Barry goes with this,   he appears incompetent.   I have no idea why he would feign ignorance because that makes it look like he was too busy to be concerned about something important.    If he claims to have been part of the planning all along,  he is incompetent to have missed or ignored something. 

Either way,  he really has no way to weasel out of it.   Ignorance is incompetence and so is being part of the failed project is incompetence.   
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on November 15, 2013, 04:37:17 PM
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Yet the beeyotch made her money off white women.

White women made her rich and famous.

And Whites elected Obongo, twice.

There's not enough Blacks in this country to have done that for them, by themselves.

So, what the hell is she talking about?  Same sht -- raaaacisss, raaacissm.  Broken record.

More Oprah (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/11/15/oprah-obamas-opposition-is-racist-just-needs-to-die-already/), from the same interview:

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In the same interview, Winfrey also declared her desire for “old racists” to die.

    “There are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die,” she said.

No, bitch, you die.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 15, 2013, 10:23:15 PM
Over at TRS, this thread is passing 7k comments and 300 is usually good for a hot topic but Orca is surpassing everything.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: KittenClaws on November 15, 2013, 10:47:31 PM
I agree with Mark Levin. The lie he told over and over, about being able to keep your insurance if you like it was fraud and an impeachable offense.

I will not comply. It is that simple.

No matter how ill I become. I will not comply.

There is nothing to lose and everything to gain from non compliance.

Ocare is not going to benefit my health.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 16, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
Ocare is not going to benefit my health.

Silly, it was never designed to do that.  It was designed to benefit the government's health.  You're merely one more egg that needs to be broken to make an omelette for our hungry political Mandarin class.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 16, 2013, 04:16:33 AM
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So, if I follow correctly, the smartest president ever is not smart enough to ensure that his website works; he’s not smart enough to inquire of others as to whether his website works; he’s not smart enough to check that his website works before he goes out and tells people what a great website experience they’re in for. But he is smart enough to know that he’s not stupid enough to go around bragging about how well it works if he’d already been informed that it doesn’t work. So he’s smart enough to know that if he’d known what he didn’t know he’d know enough not to let it be known that he knew nothing. The country’s in the very best of hands.

Steyn at his best. (http://m.nationalreview.com/article/364093/thus-spake-obama-mark-steyn)

And I'm thinking that I might go back to calling him President Toonces...Obama driving over the cliff with a car load full of Democrat congress swine screaming all the way to the bottom where it bursts into flames and then explodes. That's about right.

I will say this right now...I am going to try and record as many of the Sunday shows as possible. What else can they possibly talk about? Which, if any, Democrats can they get to volunteer for that duty? What talking points could possibly be good enough?

You know, it's true that the Republican party is pretty stupid but for now and the foreseeable future it is going to be hard to top the DumbassCare debacle for sheer magnitude of stupid. This thing has gravitas in the stupid universe.

And yet, the stupid just keeps coming. They could have cut bait this week but instead they continue to fish. It's like they have some perverse desire to inflict as much pain and damage on themselves as is humanly possible. Unbelievable. Stunning. They call this a train wreck but I've never heard of a train wreck stretching out to this absurd amount of time. Even a slow motion train wreck filmed with a high speed camera and then played back one frame at a time would have been over a week ago. This thing just keeps going. It's glacial in its speed and in its destruction. It creeps over the political landscape one inch at a time, crushing and pulverizing everything in its path and because it is continental in size there is no where to run. Or maybe it's like a decade long meteor shower like in the movie "Armageddon" where whole cities are wiped out one after another with no end in sight. Politically apocalyptic in scope and intensity.

And they did it to themselves.

Can't remember where I saw it but someone was purporting to quote Buchanan...something about panicked Democrats standing at the rail of the sinking ship watching Bill Clinton rowing away in the only lifeboat. Hilarious.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 16, 2013, 08:45:29 AM
Obamacare: What's Next (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbY-vDZPKzQ#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 16, 2013, 10:55:21 AM
Not just kissing plans goodbye because of O'Bongoism, doctors getting axed from plans...

http://news.yahoo.com/unitedhealth-drops-thousands-doctors-insurance-plans-wsj-030014903--finance.html (http://news.yahoo.com/unitedhealth-drops-thousands-doctors-insurance-plans-wsj-030014903--finance.html)

...have to check with my folks, see if they got hammered by this...

 ::cussing::  O'Bongoists! 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 16, 2013, 07:21:17 PM
Kos Kids petition their king to look into ACA sabotage by the tea party or something (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-open-investigation-potential-sabotage-aca-website-obstructionist-politicians-and-political/tqPB6xzd)

The short bus brigade strikes!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 17, 2013, 09:16:50 AM
Kos Kids petition their king to look into ACA sabotage by the tea party or something (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-open-investigation-potential-sabotage-aca-website-obstructionist-politicians-and-political/tqPB6xzd)

The short bus brigade strikes!

OMG! 

They are beyond delusional!  This is what happens when one intentionally goes through life with their head firmly entrenched up their rectum!  It doesn't even compute in their diseased brains that their Messiah never meant for this program to do anything but destroy all in its path!  They thought Nirvana was at hand!

 ::hysterical::

All aboard!   ::bus::   ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: AlanS on November 17, 2013, 12:33:29 PM
Kos Kids petition their king to look into ACA sabotage by the tea party or something (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-open-investigation-potential-sabotage-aca-website-obstructionist-politicians-and-political/tqPB6xzd)

The short bus brigade strikes!

OMG! 

They are beyond delusional!  This is what happens when one intentionally goes through life with their head firmly entrenched up their rectum!  It doesn't even compute in their diseased brains that their Messiah never meant for this program to do anything but destroy all in its path!  They thought Nirvana was at hand!

 ::hysterical::

All aboard!   ::bus::   ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

Like PMSNBC would have passed an opportunity to air that bit of news.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 18, 2013, 10:14:13 PM
(http://www.investors.com/image/RAMclr-092913-launch-IBD-COLOR-FINAL30303.gif.cms)

So, for DumbassCare, it isn't the beginning of the end, of course, but rather the end of the beginning. The "launch" that wasn't is to be followed by...something else. Or several somethings else. None of them good. The opportunity for anything "good" has expired and, unlike King Putt's golfing excursions, there will be no mulligans.

Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamacare-so-what-could-go-wrong-next-99957.html) lists off a few of the the next possibilities and it starts with my personal favorite...

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The ‘Death Spiral’

This was always the worst of the worst-case scenarios: Only sick people enroll in the Obamacare health insurance plans, healthy people stay away, and everyone’s premiums rise out of control because there are no healthy people to cover the sick people’s costs.

That’s the dreaded “death spiral,” and it has been a possibility all along. But it was only a remote one — because health care experts have counted on the attraction of Obamacare’s subsidies, along with the threat of fines from the individual mandate, to lure enough healthy customers to prevent a meltdown.

But they were also counting on a functioning website. Now that HealthCare.gov has tripped up all but the most committed customers, health care analysts are taking another look at the “death spiral” scenario — and some are worried that it’s already playing out before their eyes.

“This is not a political attack — I think we’re already there. I really do,” said Robert Laszewski, a consultant who works with health insurance companies. “If everyone is hearing that there are all these problems with the website and you have to do all these workarounds, who’s going to do the workarounds? Sick people.”

The Obama administration says roughly 106,000 people selected health insurance plans in October — and only a quarter of those used the federal website, which serves 36 states. There are a lot more potential customers, since nearly 1.1 million were found to be eligible for Obamacare plans. But they have to get through the website first.

The buggy website would have to be working well by the beginning of December, as the Obama administration has promised, to avoid discouraging healthy people from signing up, Laszewski said — and the chances of a successful fix by then are growing more remote every day.

The forecast calls for heavy comeuppance followed by severe schadenfruede. Break out the popcorn, the cigars and the adult beverages. My belief is that something like two thirds to three quarters of the schmucks who have signed up to date are the previously uninsurable. Maybe more than that. Maybe all of them because having seen the prices myself I can't believe that anyone else would have the proper motivation to buy this gobbler. No...I am pretty sure that the death spiral is well along the way and if they ever do get healthcare.gov working at anything approaching 80% efficiency I don't believe that anyone will be exactly stampeding to get on board.

And yet...there remains serious pockets of deep delusion: (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/18/president-obama-should-never-apologize-for-passing-obamacare.html)

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But the president should never apologize for passing the Affordable Care Act, and neither should those of us who have supported this kind of reform for years, even decades. We didn’t fight for this law because it was good politics. We didn’t fight for this law with the hope that it would lead to some ideological victory for big government—otherwise we wouldn’t have proposed a plan that maintained the private insurance market with reforms that Republicans once championed.

We fought for this law because no other advanced democracy on Earth gave insurance companies free rein to profit by discriminating against all but the healthiest and wealthiest citizens. We fought for this law because 14,000 Americans, most of them working and middle class, were losing their health insurance every day—with no other options. We fought for this law because millions of other Americans thought they had decent coverage until their insurance company refused to pay for treatment that someone in their family desperately needed; because people died as a direct result of not being able to afford better health care.

You know...you just can't appreciate "smart" in absence of "stupid" and the above opinion piece makes me quite appreciative of intelligence.

I, too, hope that President Toonces never apologizes again. I would like to see a few pressers and some fundraisers where King Putt comes out and brags about DumbassCare and reminds everyone about how courageous he was/is for passing it and sticking with it. I hope for this more than anything. Please, please, please...let it be so.

And I'm also thinking that there will be a few people who used to have an insurance policy and now do not who will croak sometime early next year because the utopians wanted to "do something."

But the grand prize for the deeply self delusional this week HAS to go to the idiot junior senator from NY, Kirsten Gillibrand. And that's saying an awful lot because, hey, the competition is very fierce:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mAfCDmZnYA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mAfCDmZnYA#ws)

And umm, I guess another inadvertent "winner" in the DumbassCare rollout is Windows 8 with their ill-conceived tile GUI that no one could figure out. All things considered, that hot mess looks ingenious compared to healthcare.gov

Finishing off today's installment of the daily schadenboner is the deeply disappointed and the much-confused-about-the-whole-thing, David Brooks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK6rKvm-l4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK6rKvm-l4Q#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: RickZ on November 19, 2013, 04:54:58 AM
Pithy comment from the Daily Beast:

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Lots of lipstick needed.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 19, 2013, 07:46:12 AM
More on the death-spiral...

http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/161901 (http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/161901)

"The real question is whether the Democrats in Congress will come to their senses and realize that Obamacare is DOA."  Ha!  Never!

Look at SCoaMF lie his ass off!


President Barack Obama told a conference-call audience of progressive volunteers on Monday evening that 'more than 100 million Americans' – in a nation of less than 314 million – have successfully signed up for health insurance via the Affordable Care Act.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509715/Obama-flubs-health-care-conference-community-organizers-More-100-million-Americans-successfully-enrolled.html#ixzz2l6CHeZw6 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509715/Obama-flubs-health-care-conference-community-organizers-More-100-million-Americans-successfully-enrolled.html#ixzz2l6CHeZw6)

 ::saywhat::

 ::hysterical::

What an ass!  But Low-Intelligence Voters will probably buy that shyt!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on November 19, 2013, 10:36:59 PM
Today's schadenboner begins with this tale of woe from another publicly prominent ObamaVoter…. (http://washingtonstatewire.com/blog/rude-awakening-for-federal-way-woman-who-got-shout-out-from-president-cant-afford-obamacare-policy-after-all/)

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Jessica Sanford, the Federal Way woman who got a shout-out from President Obama last month with her fan letter for the Affordable Care Act, got a rather rude awakening last week. Turns out she doesn’t qualify for a tax credit after all.

At least that’s what the letter said that she got from the state. Now she says her dream of affordable health insurance has gone poof. She can’t afford it. She’ll have to go without. “I’m really terribly embarrassed,” she says. “It has completely turned around on me. I mean, completely.”

Chalk it up to a bollixed-up state website that apparently still has major problems. Originally it said Sanford and her child would get a whopping tax credit that would reduce their total premium to $169 a month. Now the state is telling her it goofed – twice – and she has to pay full ticket. There may even be a third goof involved: At least one health-insurance broker says she may qualify for a tax credit after all, albeit a small one. Officials at the state Healthplanfinder website could not be contacted Sunday night. But it just goes to show that even in the state of Washington, which has earned national kudos for a health-insurance exchange that seems to function better than the dysfunctional federal website, there are big, big problems.

Pretty good way to make an ass of yourself…nationally…write a letter to your newest BFF, Barry, get publicly recognized for being such a great brown noser, and then have your life pretty much ruined for your trouble…

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The hitch was that the website told her that her income was low enough that she could enroll her son in the state Medicaid program for children of low-income families, known as Apple Health. For that she would have to pay a premium of just $30 a month. She could enroll him right away, and she did. But that created a problem. When she enrolled Ryan in Medicaid, she couldn’t count him toward a tax credit. Not that the website mentioned it. In fact, it gave her the opposite impression.

Once the new health insurance policy kicked in on Jan. 1, the premium was supposed to be $280 a month, plus, she assumed, the Medicaid premium. But after she signed up for a policy, and after she gave her credit-card information, she got a letter from the state last week saying that her income was too high to qualify for subsidies – the cutoff is $44,680 for a single adult, 400 percent of the federal poverty level. So she would get no help from the feds at all.

I was dumbfounded,” she said. “I thought this was a total mistake, they’re going to correct this — this isn’t true. How could I not qualify for a tax credit? I make under $50,000 a year. There’s got to be something. So I got ahold of my broker, and a couple of days later he called me back, and he told me that no, it was true.”

Now she says her health-insurance dream has gone bust. Without a tax credit she has to consider the cheapest “bronze” level plans, but the deductibles are so high that couldn’t afford to purchase prescription medication. “I was like, forget that – I’m not going to pay.”

So now she is looking forward to no health insurance at all.

NO SOUP FOR YOU! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLfmEZYdtrY#)

But, as I have posted previously, most ObamaVoters are pretty amazingly stupid and, since you can't fix stupid…

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She says she wants to make it clear she has no beef with Obama and Obamacare. She still believes in the Affordable Care Act. “I don’t want this to be a political thing,” she says. “I don’t want to be bashing the president. I don’t want to be bashing the ACA. I don’t want to come across as saying that. I am a big Obama fan.

It is really hard to feel sorry for any of these people (and I don't).

On the one hand you have the people who, after being told that it would turn out this way, voted for it and are now extremely PO'd about it and have turned on their hero. Sorry, we warned you and you didn't listen…stew in your own juices, buddy. And on the other hand you have those people like poor, dim-witted Jessica. She is the type who wouldn't even entertain the thought that this could possibly turn out this way…we warned her and she stuck her fingers in her ears and started chanting so that she couldn't hear us. So she now has zero insurance but is totally okay with it because she just knows that this isn't what her hero intended and  she still loves him with hugs and kisses. And that's because she is a complete moron.

Complete Morons Are Rare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFcKj30ABU#)

Profile of a complete moron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1oPktLLrmQ#t=80)

Part Two of today's schadenboner experience has to do with the security of healthcare.gov (http://freebeacon.com/hearing-security-flaws-in-obamacare-website-endanger-americans/) which would be more accurately characterized as the utter lack of security…

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David Kennedy, the founder of TrustedSec, an online security firm, said that the risks were easy to ascertain.

“Just by looking at the website we can see that there is just fundamental security principles not being followed, things that are basic in nature that any security tester, like myself or anyone that we hire to test these sites, would actually test for prior to being released,” Kennedy, formerly of the National Security Agency and a one-time cyber-intelligence analyst for the U.S. Marine Corps, said.

The experts said the personal information of millions of Americans is at risk, including Social Security numbers, birthdays, incomes, home mortgages, and addresses. Rep. Mo Brooks (R., Ala.) called it the “mother lode for identity theft.

Americans should be scared to death,” said Rep. Chris Stewart (R., Utah).

Kennedy demonstrated an attack in the hearing room, showing how on Finder.Healthcare.gov a hacker could breach into a computer, monitor its webcam, and steal passwords.

Hackers from Russia or China could “absolutely” breach the online marketplace, he said.

The problems could only get worse since the president’s team is trying to fix the website while it is still up and running.

Morgan Wright, a cyber terrorism expert and CEO of Crowd Sourced Investigations, LLC., said attempting to fix one line of code could open up a “Pandora’s box.”

“You create an unintended series of cascading events you have no control over because you don’t have a grasp of what the code is actually doing,” he said. “You think you’ve changed one thing, by doing that you’ve opened up a Pandora’s box of vulnerabilities on the other side.”

Kennedy said he has never seen anything like it.

“To be honest with you, I have not seen—and I’ve worked for Fortune 10, Fortune 50, Fortune 1,000 companies, as well as on the government side—I have not seen an application that pales in comparison to 500 million lines of code, including some of the largest applications you would ever see in the history of man.”

Because of the sheer amount of code, it is impossible to conduct a complete end-to-end security assessment on the website, the panelists said. Just reviewing it for security risks could take six months.

What these guys are saying is that should pigs fly and healthcare.gov suddenly start working (sort of...at least to the point where lots of people can get on and navigate it quickly) then anyone who coughs up their personal data and info can pretty much count on it being stolen. So, again, only the truly stupid need apply.

Meanwhile, over where the cool kids hang out, the insurance companies (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/11/19/wellpoint-ceo-says-obamacare-sign-ups-still-anemic/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories) are getting screwed out of their investment in this steaming pile...

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The HealthCare.gov website is so problem-plagued that WellPoint Inc., the nation’s second-largest insurer, is backing away from advertising its new health-care offerings, its chief executive said Tuesday.

“I’ll be very candid, we have pulled back from marketing, not knowing how to get people enrolled at the moment,” Joseph Swedish, WellPoint’s chief executive, said in an interview at the WSJ CEO Council Tuesday.

This would be one of the guys who just the day before spent an hour and a half in the presence of King Putt being reassured that everything was okay and by the way would you please, please, please just give us another chance and a little more time...

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The company has spent more than $300 million building systems that are compatible with the new health insurance changes and is “camera ready” to accept new enrollment, Mr. Swedish said.

But with the health website marred by technical problems, there’s little sign the anticipated flood of enrollment has amounted to anything but a trickle. Mr. Swedish said enrollment is still “anemic.”

And you know...there are going to be some very uncomfortable shareholder meetings this year and people like Swedish are going to have a lot of explaining to do. This whole DumbassCare thing probably looked like a really smart move a few years back but it sure looks like a big bucketful of stupid today and stopping the promotion probably should've happened the second week of October rather than the third week of November.

Speaking of promotion...

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The more Americans visit the site and are unable to sign up, the bigger the risk that they might abandon their efforts to sign up – particularly the young, healthy Americans that are key to balancing out the economics of the insurance exchanges.

I could be wrong but I'm thinking that one of the keys to making this dog's breakfast work was not only getting the young and stupid to sign up but to sort of keep it a secret as to how important it was to get the young and stupid to sign up. I don't know about you but I've heard about it now on just about every day since the "launch" and I've got to believe that more than a few of the young and stupid have begun to put two and two together and concluded that they are the ultimate chumps in this story. So, I'm thinking that most of them (or at least an awful lot of them) will take their ball and go home.

And marketing fail like this only reinforces that "we is chumps" idea:

(http://cdn02.cdnwp.thefrisky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/22/brosurance-insurance-obamacare-600x450.jpg)

Either that or "you is sluts" which isn't any better but does give me a chuckle when I think about war on wymynz stuff...

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/gallery/got-insurance/bro7.jpg)

Either way, I see the young and stupid maybe wising up...not a lot but maybe...just enough to stay away from DumbassCare in significantly large numbers.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 20, 2013, 12:16:23 AM
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I could be wrong but I'm thinking that one of the keys to making this dog's breakfast work was not only getting the young and stupid to sign up but to sort of keep it a secret as to how important it was to get the young and stupid to sign up. I don't know about you but I've heard about it now on just about every day since the "launch" and I've got to believe that more than a few of the young and stupid have begun to put two and two together and concluded that they are the ultimate chumps in this story. So, I'm thinking that most of them (or at least an awful lot of them) will take their ball and go home.

YES!
 ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2013, 07:58:01 AM
Some might take their ball and go home...others will need their balls kicked.  Same as it ever was...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on November 20, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
I blame you guys for making me a regular reader of American Thinker.  It's there we have our paragraph of the week.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_vs_liberalism.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_vs_liberalism.html)

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The outline is simple: Obama has a vision. In Ozymandias mode, he declares that his vision must be made manifest.  His staff, the Executive Branch, the Democratic Party, and no small number of citizens race about to make it so. Treasury pulls a few billion from the eighth dimension. One of Valerie Jarrett's relatives is dragged out to run the thing. Anybody who actually knows anything at all about the industry or specialty in question is carefully winnowed out. The media rhapsodizes, establishment Republicans nudge each other and whisper, "You know, there's a fortune in lobbying for this deal...."

Nailed, on every level.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2013, 07:36:04 AM
I blame you guys for making me a regular reader of American Thinker.  It's there we have our paragraph of the week.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_vs_liberalism.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/obama_vs_liberalism.html)

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The outline is simple: Obama has a vision. In Ozymandias mode, he declares that his vision must be made manifest.  His staff, the Executive Branch, the Democratic Party, and no small number of citizens race about to make it so. Treasury pulls a few billion from the eighth dimension. One of Valerie Jarrett's relatives is dragged out to run the thing. Anybody who actually knows anything at all about the industry or specialty in question is carefully winnowed out. The media rhapsodizes, establishment Republicans nudge each other and whisper, "You know, there's a fortune in lobbying for this deal...."


Nailed, on every level.

This is good.

"Obama embodies this in pure form. He is culturally Islamic (no way he couldn't be, having spent his formative years in an Islamic country, Indonesia). Religiously he is a nullity, an empty secular of the type that infests the current elite. His leaning toward Islam has been expressed variously in claims that Islam forms an "important part" of American culture and that Islam has made endless "historical contributions" to the United States."

But I think this part has a little too much hopium in it...


"Finally, Obama has also destroyed what has stood as the last hope of liberalism since the New Deal. Once the liberals have blown things up, they turn to the GOP, much as a four-year-old turns to Daddy, to fix it and make it work. So Eisenhower acted as conservator of the New Deal and Nixon savior of the Great Society. Obama, with his conniving, his insults, and his rampant ego, has ruined that. While there are plenty of Republicans who would come to his aid for a handful of magic beans -- McCain, Graham, Ayotte, and Rubio, to mention only a few -- they can't. Not today, not in the second decade of the new millennium.  They can't because the party rank and file is infuriated, the tea parties are out for blood, and the barbarians, led by Ted Cruz, are within the gates."

I think he underestimates the abject idiocy and insanity of the eGOP ruling elite and the consultant class they rely on for what we normal people generally refer to as thought.

And the wrap up - "This will stand as Obama's great contribution: acting as modern liberalism's executioner.  Liberalism has been running on fumes for decades. Based on ideology and wish-fulfillment daydreams, it was connected to reality by the thinnest of gossamer threads. Now even those connections are gone, severed by Barack Obama. So what do its adherents do now? Fade away? Become even more weirdly cultic than before? Or switch to the vicious brutishness of their foreign models? Thanks to Obama, we're going to find out."

They'll keep going all-in, they have the lapdog media to lean on, even if they turn on Obama for their own survival, doesn't matter...the next Progressive Messiah is just around the corner...and the Free Shyt Army will gladly leech onto the next charismatic charlatan to come forth with promises of Nirvana.

Only full systemic economic collapse or war can derail the progressives...politics, the eGOP?  Give me a break!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2013, 07:44:55 AM
Back on the Schadenfreude...

Woman from Obama's ObamaCare speech who was "saved" by Duh Wun...got re-priced out of ObamaCare and is ouot on her ass!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/obamas-success-story-woman-repriced-out-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/obamas-success-story-woman-repriced-out-obamacare)

Boom!  Death-panel Ready!  There's a bit of karma tearing a chunk outta your arse!

And, expect a lot more people to get sticker-shocked!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/here-come-even-higher-insurance-premiums (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/here-come-even-higher-insurance-premiums)

If you like higher premiums, you get to keep your higher premiums..or a new higher premium will be assigned you!  Bam!  Are you lovin' it?!

ObamaCare even made Snyder's Top 5 Big Govt Lies list - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/guest-post-5-economic-big-lies-government-telling-you (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/guest-post-5-economic-big-lies-government-telling-you)

By themselves they are really bad...in combination...I don't think this level of volatility can be contained...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/Explode-02-june.gif)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 21, 2013, 07:45:11 AM
Yeah, that conclusion is BS. The Left owns the media, academia, entertainment, the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the non-profit sector, and the economic underclass - of which it is feverishly working to create more - and about half of every other institution, including the private sector.

The impact of this debacle and this presidency is yet to be seen. But the destruction of liberalism will not come without killing.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 21, 2013, 08:41:21 AM
My daughter sent me a text yesterday with the word LIES written several times then she called me.  She tried to sign up for the same plan she had before WHICH THEY STILL OFFER and was told she doesn't qualify for it and had to choose between 2 plans that offered less and will cost her more.  The guy couldn't tell her why she didn't qualify and the materials did not say. If she didn't pick a plan they would assign one to her but again the materials didn't tell her which one.

My mother, on the other hand, is sure that since she has Medicare and BlueCross BlueShield she has nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2013, 11:35:12 AM
My daughter sent me a text yesterday with the word LIES written several times then she called me.  She tried to sign up for the same plan she had before WHICH THEY STILL OFFER and was told she doesn't qualify for it and had to choose between 2 plans that offered less and will cost her more.  The guy couldn't tell her why she didn't qualify and the materials did not say. If she didn't pick a plan they would assign one to her but again the materials didn't tell her which one.

My mother, on the other hand, is sure that since she has Medicare and BlueCross BlueShield she has nothing to worry about.

That will likely prove to be an inadvisable statement.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2013, 11:55:29 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-21/experts-warn-healthcaregov-so-riddled-security-flaws-it-should-be-shut-down-rebuilt- (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-21/experts-warn-healthcaregov-so-riddled-security-flaws-it-should-be-shut-down-rebuilt-)

Screw 'em...let 'em get identity-hacked from here to the moon...I'm beyond giving a damn...

Non-compliance, defiance...hostile opposition...it is time.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on November 21, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
My mother, on the other hand, is sure that since she has Medicare and BlueCross BlueShield she has nothing to worry about.

We have the same thing as your mom. It's a secondary for what's not paid by Medicare, and we're not supposed to be changed either.

But there are secondaries and there are secondaries. I trust no one.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on November 21, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
My mother, on the other hand, is sure that since she has Medicare and BlueCross BlueShield she has nothing to worry about.

We have the same thing as your mom. It's a secondary for what's not paid by Medicare, and we're not supposed to be changed either.

But there are secondaries and there are secondaries. I trust no one.

There will be changes,  and not good ones.   My folks were telling me of some of the changes.   More money out of their pockets of course........
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 21, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
My mother, on the other hand, is sure that since she has Medicare and BlueCross BlueShield she has nothing to worry about.

We have the same thing as your mom. It's a secondary for what's not paid by Medicare, and we're not supposed to be changed either.

But there are secondaries and there are secondaries. I trust no one.

I don't either.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 26, 2013, 07:29:05 AM
80 million more pissed off people should help the Schadenfreude along...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/26/evidence-shows-obama-administration-predicted-tens-millions-would-lose-plans/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/26/evidence-shows-obama-administration-predicted-tens-millions-would-lose-plans/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on December 04, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Well, I have been on vacation for the last week and I have not been keeping up with all of the joyous press accounts of people running headlong into the brick wall that is DumbassCare and I apologize for that but, hey...gotta do the family thing and all. Anyway...here is one stolen from the headlines over at HotAir and it is particularly nice because the story is not just written by a media leftist (http://www.centredaily.com/2013/12/04/3923889/michael-smerconish-nightmare-on.html) but it is about him, too.

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I’m in health care purgatory.

Since sunrise on the day of the launch, Oct. 1, I’ve attempted to shop for health insurance at healthcare.gov. Almost eight weeks later, I still haven’t been successful in accessing quotes online for insurance.

My experience has been a Kafkaesque nightmare of Internet denial and telephone roadblocks. And this is not some journalistic folly. I’m in the market for health insurance and have been optimistic about my ability to get a competitive rate as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

Here’s the most frustrating part: Apparently, there is a competitive rate for my family and me, but I haven’t been able to examine it.

This is written by Michael Smerconish who is a former RINO and is now a certified leftist sympathizer so he totally deserves this.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on December 04, 2013, 09:22:01 PM
Ah, Smerconish.  Yep, reap = sow.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: AlanS on December 04, 2013, 09:33:12 PM
Well, I have been on vacation for the last week and I have not been keeping up with all of the joyous press accounts of people running headlong into the brick wall that is DumbassCare and I apologize for that but, hey...gotta do the family thing and all. Anyway...here is one stolen from the headlines over at HotAir and it is particularly nice because the story is not just written by a media leftist (http://www.centredaily.com/2013/12/04/3923889/michael-smerconish-nightmare-on.html) but it is about him, too.

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I’m in health care purgatory.

Since sunrise on the day of the launch, Oct. 1, I’ve attempted to shop for health insurance at healthcare.gov. Almost eight weeks later, I still haven’t been successful in accessing quotes online for insurance.

My experience has been a Kafkaesque nightmare of Internet denial and telephone roadblocks. And this is not some journalistic folly. I’m in the market for health insurance and have been optimistic about my ability to get a competitive rate as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

Here’s the most frustrating part: Apparently, there is a competitive rate for my family and me, but I haven’t been able to examine it.

This is written by Michael Smerconish who is a former RINO and is now a certified leftist sympathizer so he totally deserves this.

Bless his heart.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on December 04, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
Just to give you an idea as to how big a douche Smerconish is, he said this a little under a month ago (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2013/11/11/msnbcs-smerconish-gop-apologize-obama-he-saved-us-junk-plans) while filling in for Chris Matthews on Hardball:

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The facts are that many of the same people that feel betrayed now will be thanking the President later. These are people in so-called junk plans that could bankrupt them and their families if they ever got sick. The new plans may cost a little more than they're used to, but ask anyone who's been bankrupted by getting cancer or couldn't afford treatment, they'll tell you in no uncertain terms the plans are worth it.

The Republican response to President Obama has been a predictable cocktail of distraction and politics. Republican House Speaker John Boehner had this response. Quote, "An apology is certainly in order, but what Americans want to hear is that the President is going to keep his promise. That's why the House will vote next week to allow anyone with a health care plan they like to keep it."

Now, let's not forget this is the party that has peddled some of the most wild and ludicrous lies to its constituents about the President's health care law. This is the party that did everything it could to sabotage the law, and then cried crocodile tears when its rollout ran aground. This is the party that nearly sent the country into an economic tailspin in an attempt to kill the law, all the while knowing they'd lose. And it's the party whose governors have turned down the law's expansion of Medicaid, which would have given five million poor people insurance at virtually no cost to their states. As Republicans revel in the President's comments, we should ask who should offer the real apology here?

Total douche. He used to be a RINO Republican and, like Joe Scarborough, has seen the light and voted (twice) for BO. He is a regular on MSNBC and that tells you all you really need to know about him and his principles/ethics or lack thereof.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on December 04, 2013, 10:05:45 PM
"Junk plans"?  Really?  Is that anything like "substandard"?  I so hate these people; they think they're so much savvier than us hoi polloi.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on December 04, 2013, 11:06:07 PM
Like it is their prerogative to decide on your behalf what sort of insurance plan you should have. Maybe if you're a 25 year old single guy, a so-called "junk" plan is all you want, maybe all you could afford. Just something to cover you if something major happens, like a car accident or something. But now? Forget about it, those plans are history. You don't have that option anymore, and since you still can't afford plans that meet with Michael Smerconish's approval, you're now just paying the fine to the IRS and left with no plan at all. Forward!

It's the completely flip manner in which they make these sweeping assessments, "oh you might have to pay a little more now, but you'll be thanking the President (i.e. me and my fellow liberals) later!", that gets me. The glib, flippant way they say these things indicates that it has never once entered their thoughts that maybe -- just maybe! -- the way I live my life and the decisions I make for myself are, you know, none of their ********* business? A whole lot of somebodies are overdue for a rather kinetic disabusing of that attitude.

That "it's just a little more expensive and you'll thank us later" attitude reminded me of this clip from South Park, where they portray Rob Reiner: http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154267/backward-hick-state (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154267/backward-hick-state)


Self-edit: removed use of the Lord's name in vain. Even with the asterisks it felt sinful.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on December 09, 2013, 01:31:26 AM
The O'Bongo admin has decided that the absolutely best possible way forward for DumbassCare (now that healthcare.gov is fixed) is to do a PR blitz. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/03/white-house-to-pitch-obamacare-after-healthcaregov-re-do/)

Which is to say, a high profile turd polishing dog and pony show.

This is their only course of action because 1) O'Bongo has sworn that there is zero chance of DumbassCare being repealed while he is president and 2) the law, as written, is unworkable and staggeringly unpopular.

This is, actually, great news for the opposition because it will only make matters worse for the Democrats. They will not do the one thing necessary to reverse their fortunes, repeal it.

So, why bring this up? Well, it turns out that there is an interesting article (http://andstillipersist.com/2013/12/obamacare-and-the-bifurcated-cusp/) with a tie in to this situation. The article cites this example of the phenomenon:

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One example that Prof. Ferguson cited was that of a man approaching a hostile dog chained to a post. The dog growls but does not bark until the man gets within a certain distance — say, 10 feet. At that point, the dog shifts suddenly from mere warning to outright attack. However, if the man takes one step back, the dog does not suddenly settle back down into warning behavior. Instead, the dog continues in attack mode — active barking and snarling — until the man has retreated a substantial distance farther than the point at which the attack mode commenced — say, 20 feet.

The dog’s behavior is not a smooth, contiguous function of the man’s distance. Instead, it is catastrophic and asymmetric.

In the case of DumbassCare, the tipping point (the author uses the term, "splitting factor") came on or about October 1st when the individual health insurance policy cancellations came and the new rates were revealed. You could throw in the non-functional healthcare.gov thing and other issues, too. I think that the website and the other issues (if you like your plan you can keep your plan lie, losing the doctor/hospital of your choice, the potential (likelihood) of being a victim of identity theft), some not yet having even occurred (actual denial of care and the subsequent bankruptcies and/or loss of life), make the tipping point worse...i.e., harder to overcome.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tAHtZ1JeZDw/UqKTrNJG0SI/AAAAAAAAPBY/1V-0RYR_Bnc/s1600/no+obamacare.jpg)

But anyway, getting back to the illustration...

The growling/barking dog part started the moment that DumbassCare was proposed and culminated when the Democrats lost the House in 2010. The dog went into attack mode on or around October 1st. However, instead of backing off, the man in this scenario is continuing to walk toward the clearly berserk dog and the PR blitz is the man trying to play with the dog as if it isn't in "crazed and foaming at the mouth attack mode". The longer that the man puts off the inevitable and only solution, backing off (repeal), the further away he will have to go to get the dog to stop attacking, stop barking and growling and go back to sleep.

The author of the article puts it thusly:

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Now, Obama has tried to minimize these splitting factors by delaying or changing implementation of certain aspects of Obamacare. But short of delaying the entire ACA for a year or two, there isn’t that much more he can do to reduce these splitting factors — hence the abrupt shift in Americans’ reactions and opinions. If anything, these combined splitting factors are going to increase over the next 12 months, widening the opinion gap between the prior state and the current one (i.e., even greater dissatisfaction) and widening the back-tracking required for a shift back to more passive tolerance of Obamacare.

In light of that, Obama’s planned “PR blitz” for Obamacare is like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound. It will do little to move the electorate far enough “away” from Obamacare’s actual impact to cause a reverse catastrophe back to the merely dissatisfied acceptance. Furthermore, his announced decision that “We’re not repealing it as long as I’m president” shows an unwillingness to reduce any of the splitting factors.

In short, things are likely to get worse for Obamacare, for Obama, and for the Democratic Party as a whole.

I think that the author is mostly correct in his theory but I take issue with the notion that it is possible to go back to a "more passive tolerance" of the law because that "passive tolerance" was of a law that was unimplemented. BO sez that he will never allow the law to be repealed so I don't see how passive tolerance can be ever be regained. And really, what we are talking about here is passive tolerance of Democrat policies. Because the thing is...as long as Democrat policies are theoretical or, at best, not affecting very many people directly (e.g. "the rich") then passive tolerance is the default mode. Now, however, for a substantial number of voters (with many more to join their ranks shortly), passive tolerance is a luxury they can no longer afford. Literally.

So, good article. I recommend giving it a look.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on December 09, 2013, 12:02:28 PM
Interesting article.


I think the admin and media used the .gov website fiasco as cover for how disliked this law is.  What will be the next excuse when the PR doesn't work? Based on those stupid ads directed at high risk behavior people the PR campaign could be very entertaining.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on December 10, 2013, 10:12:16 AM
Although I have derived countless hours of uproarious amusement watching the so-called "smart set" flail away at web site creation, I really would like to now see the thing suddenly (and miraculously) come to life in the way that they intended. And that's because they would no longer be able to hide behind their gross incompetence and instead be forced to deal with the reality that no one wants this. Or, perhaps more accurately, no one can afford this other than the fully subsidized poor who are already on welfare and for whom this is merely just another item in their goody bags.

And...did you know that there is a group (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/generation-opportunity-takes-opt-out-obamacare-message-college-students_769664.html) going around to colleges and promoting the idea of opting out of DumbassCare?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 10, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
But Obama needs to especially enslave the young into his one-size-fits-all end-all/be-all scheme!  They are essential to fleece and make the funding work...or the whole thing will implode even faster than previously anticipated!

Come on youngin's...you're supposed to be all-in on this shyt!

Here's to rebels!   ::beertoast::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on December 10, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
But Obama needs to especially enslave the young into his one-size-fits-all end-all/be-all scheme!  They are essential to fleece and make the funding work...or the whole thing will implode even faster than previously anticipated!

Come on youngin's...you're supposed to be all-in on this shyt!

Here's to rebels!   ::beertoast::
C'mon yo, it be fo da chidren err the wealdy ode fokes.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 10, 2013, 12:56:26 PM
But Obama needs to especially enslave the young into his one-size-fits-all end-all/be-all scheme!  They are essential to fleece and make the funding work...or the whole thing will implode even faster than previously anticipated!

Come on youngin's...you're supposed to be all-in on this shyt!

Here's to rebels!   ::beertoast::
C'mon yo, it be fo da chidren err the wealdy ode fokes.

Correction - It be to da chirren fo da statist cronies!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on December 10, 2013, 03:07:07 PM
But Obama needs to especially enslave the young into his one-size-fits-all end-all/be-all scheme!  They are essential to fleece and make the funding work...or the whole thing will implode even faster than previously anticipated!

Come on youngin's...you're supposed to be all-in on this shyt!

Here's to rebels!   ::beertoast::
C'mon yo, it be fo da chidren err the wealdy ode fokes.

Correction - It be to da chirren fo da statist cronies!
Yoos nose dam well, they aint be eny reel spellin fo a slan-guage.
sh*t, it hurts my brain trying to type it out.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2013, 07:19:54 AM
But Obama needs to especially enslave the young into his one-size-fits-all end-all/be-all scheme!  They are essential to fleece and make the funding work...or the whole thing will implode even faster than previously anticipated!

Come on youngin's...you're supposed to be all-in on this shyt!

Here's to rebels!   ::beertoast::
C'mon yo, it be fo da chidren err the wealdy ode fokes.

Correction - It be to da chirren fo da statist cronies!
Yoos nose dam well, they aint be eny reel spellin fo a slan-guage.
sh*t, it hurts my brain trying to type it out.

Yeah.  Let's knock that shyt off and get back to knocking libiots out!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2013, 11:49:52 AM
The dark puffy colon endorses Single Payer...which makes perfect sense since he endorsed the author of the current planned fiasco...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=216314 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=216314)

Die, scum!  Die!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on January 03, 2014, 01:40:36 AM
Well, here we are a couple or three days into the new year...Year 1 AO (after ObamaCare) and guess what? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532869/They-no-idea-insurance-active-not-At-Virginia-hospitals-Obamacare-confusion-reigns-frustrated-patients-walk-out.html)

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Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

I want you to know that I am all busted up over this. Really. I am.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on January 03, 2014, 02:49:27 AM
WTF does a damn xray cost $500?  This is bullsht in itself.

As for the poor unfortunates, empathy meter busted and I'm not replacing.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 03, 2014, 07:52:47 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/who_cares_03.gif)

I got more import things to do than worry about these poor stupid bastards...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/CatReading.gif)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on January 03, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Gets even worse yet for hospitals that can't pay their staff simply because the fukcing government is behind in making their payments. However, pay no attention to little man behind the curtain, it's irrelevant as the real cause isn't govt, it's the GOP party of no.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2014, 12:05:22 PM
The horror has only just begun...

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/03/doctors-office-spends-2-hours-on-hold-with-health-insurer-for-patients-surgery-authorization/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/03/doctors-office-spends-2-hours-on-hold-with-health-insurer-for-patients-surgery-authorization/)

“My biggest concern is, how long is this going to last? How long can our country bear this expense?” Pace said. “It’s a benefit for us right now. But I don’t see how it can possibly be sustainable. … Am I going to use it? You bet I am. For one thing, it’s a law. I don’t have a choice.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532869/They-no-idea-insurance-active-not-At-Virginia-hospitals-Obamacare-confusion-reigns-frustrated-patients-walk-out.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532869/They-no-idea-insurance-active-not-At-Virginia-hospitals-Obamacare-confusion-reigns-frustrated-patients-walk-out.html)

 ::smallestviolin::

More unemployed will help too...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/03/happy-new-year-feds-list-141-new-regulations-in-only-3-days/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/03/happy-new-year-feds-list-141-new-regulations-in-only-3-days/)

Test that breaking point...don't hold back you statist pussies!  Unleash it all!  I triple-dog dare ya!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 07, 2014, 11:25:18 AM
The real cost of the x-ray is whatever the hospital would be willing to take from an insurance company.  And it's not close to $500.

That's where the inequity of insurance coverage is. If you have coverage you get the negotiated rate; if you don't you pay full freight. If insurance was truly based on risk we'd all pay the same amount but some would have that same amount paid for them because they had insurance.

My doctor charges something like $250 for an office visit. The negotiated rate is $85.  That office visit is worth $85 because that's what he's willing to take. If I didn't have insurance he'd expect me to pay $250.

Insurance is treated like a membership to Sam's Club.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2014, 11:39:15 AM
Self Pay fork over the charged amount by the provider (after normal retail-like cash discount), all insurerers pay on discount as negotiated by isurerers and providers, using Medicare as the general guide, so Fed's drive most reimbursement rates.

Insurer A may cover $250 of that $500 charge, the rest is discounted, and the insurer may require you to pay a flat rate or percentage out of pocket per terms of your policy...say 20%, so you pay $50 insurer pays $200 and provider gets $250.  Insurer B may only allow $225 and require a higher co-pay.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 07, 2014, 11:50:54 AM

That's where the inequity of insurance coverage is. If you have coverage you get the negotiated rate; if you don't you pay full freight.

No, now its just up to you to negotiate. If you walk in and offer to pay cash, and they don't have to fill out forms, wait for reimbursement, send you a second bill after  they deducted  the co-pay and figured out what your insurance will pay, etc. that is money in the bank to them, and they will deal. When getting reimbursed with the govt involved gets into full swing they will be even more ready to take cash.


 My Stepdad has always been independently employed and never carried insurance-- he recently paid $30K  to get $80K worth of work done replacing he teeth with implants ( not the cheapest way to go by far) - because the price lists are BS. No one pays them.  Its like a car dealership. The price on the sticker is never the price you pay. He had no insurance.  HE Asked what they could do , and decided what price he was willing to pay.

You walk in,  you tell them your situation, and you ask them to deal.  Hell even if you are really sick and don't have the money you can work out a payment plan with most places - which is how it was done before WWII when ALMOST NO ONE had insurance. And will be again, because no one will have insurance after Obama care kicks in.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on January 07, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
This is what I've done with my GI doc, for when our insurance goes bye-bye.  We'll go to negotiated cash price and he is more than amenable.  We're already on a cash basis with the dentist, the periodontist, and the GP.

Can't hurt and nothing lost by asking.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on January 14, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
Very long and detailed article (http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/14/an-obamacare-supporter-recounts-his-misadventures-dealing-with-healthcare-gov/) written by homosexual Politico hack about the horrible experience that he and his "husband" encountered trying (unsuccessfully) to acquire health coverage via their hero's infamous website. For some reason it didn't make it into The Politico, though, and ended up in The Daily Caller. Go figure.

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As we hoisted champagne flutes in the first seconds of 2014, my partner and I toasted all the usual things people do as they look ahead to the coming year. Health. Happiness. Love. Optimism. Hope.

To that traditional list, we added one more: Obamacare. My husband, Miles, was enrolled in what appeared to be an excellent, affordable plan at the stroke of midnight. Celebration seemed in order.

It had been a tough slog, of course. We’d worried the GOP would succeed in defunding it or undermining it in some other way that would put affordable coverage further out of our reach. Then we’d wrestled with that horrific website, struggled to understand the choices before us and waited nervously after we did so to see if the insurance card would actually materialize. It did.

On Jan. 1, we rejoiced. And on Jan. 10, we gave up.

Ten days in, we decided to cancel Miles’ Obamacare plan, swallow hundreds of dollars we’ll probably never recover and buy him a private policy away from the Federal Health Insurance Exchange Marketplace. His new plan does benefit from many requirements of the Affordable Care Act as well, so that’s good.

But even the administrators at Obamacare’s headquarters have agreed this is the best option. Really.

That’s not how it was supposed to be. After dozens of hours of phone calls that displaced my usual work obligations this week, only one thing is clear: Nobody can give anybody a straight or consistent answer to anything.

Our troubles may strike some as trivial and particular, although they wouldn’t if it happened to them. And anyone who wants a successful system – as we do – must understand that these nightmares are happening across the nation to the very people who want Obamacare to work.

Oh, the hope! Oh, the promise! Oh, the unmitigated BS!

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The Phone Person lied. They lie a lot. And this would become very important later.

Three days into 2014, Miles took his Obamacare out for its maiden drive. His stop at the doctor went fine. At the pharmacy, it crashed.

His medication — which has cost us a co-pay of between $10 and $30 under every other plan he’s had since 2004 including one under Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan — would not be covered. At all.

That’s $438 out of pocket. Every month. And it won’t even go against the plan deductible.

In other words, this nifty $246 Obamacare plan would actually cost $686 a month.

I'm tearing up at this point. Really, I am. Okay, well, no...not really.

Now comes the part where I get to have one of those, "See, I told you so..." laugh out loud moments...

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Much more troubling than the fact that we received so much worthless and conflicting information was that there was nobody to appeal to, nobody to trust.

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Aetna had plans on the federal marketplace as well, so I returned to HealthCare.gov to seek out a different plan for Miles. The site, however, incorrectly — surprise! — believed Miles hadn’t yet enrolled in the plan he was in.

Thus, I found myself back on the line with an Obamcare Phone Person. This time, however, I was told that once someone is enrolled in a plan via the marketplace, they cannot change it until the next open enrollment period in November. The only time to change plans, I learned, was before we paid the first premium.

So...basically...they are screwed. Now, you and I knew that they were screwed from the moment this monstrosity was made into law but it is at this point in the drama that they realize it. Schadenfreude, baby...yeah.

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The material they sent was clearly cut-and-pasted off HealthCare.gov – an explanation of why we couldn’t change our plans and how we should have known that this common medication would not be covered in our plan. There was a line in there about a three-day appeals process when a medication is denied; this was the first time in countless phone calls or emails that anyone even suggested there was such a process. Shouldn’t that have been the first thing the Obamacare Phone People said?

It's okay to laugh.

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Our math had changed. Initially we hoped to get Miles a plan for less than the $421 cost of his COBRA. Now Miles was stuck in an Obamacare plan for $246 plus $438 out of pocket for his medications. Anything less than $690 a month was now a bargain.

So, they get to pay more for the privilege of paying more...and getting less. In other words, this is the same experience everyone else is having. Of course, it still hasn't sunk in yet that there isn't anything unusual about their personal experience. They think that it's a fluke, that everyone else is getting kickass coverage for pennies.

And to, once again, validate the law of, "you can't fix stupid..."

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Come November, we’ll check back and see what Obamacare plans are available for 2015. We want the ACA to work; the previous status quo certainly did not.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on January 14, 2014, 02:44:45 PM
Very long and detailed article (http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/14/an-obamacare-supporter-recounts-his-misadventures-dealing-with-healthcare-gov/) written by homosexual Politico hack about the horrible experience that he and his "husband" encountered trying (unsuccessfully) to acquire health coverage via their hero's infamous website. For some reason it didn't make it into The Politico, though, and ended up in The Daily Caller. Go figure.

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As we hoisted champagne flutes in the first seconds of 2014, my partner and I toasted all the usual things people do as they look ahead to the coming year. Health. Happiness. Love. Optimism. Hope.

To that traditional list, we added one more: Obamacare. My husband, Miles, was enrolled in what appeared to be an excellent, affordable plan at the stroke of midnight. Celebration seemed in order.

It had been a tough slog, of course. We’d worried the GOP would succeed in defunding it or undermining it in some other way that would put affordable coverage further out of our reach. Then we’d wrestled with that horrific website, struggled to understand the choices before us and waited nervously after we did so to see if the insurance card would actually materialize. It did.

On Jan. 1, we rejoiced. And on Jan. 10, we gave up.

Ten days in, we decided to cancel Miles’ Obamacare plan, swallow hundreds of dollars we’ll probably never recover and buy him a private policy away from the Federal Health Insurance Exchange Marketplace. His new plan does benefit from many requirements of the Affordable Care Act as well, so that’s good.

But even the administrators at Obamacare’s headquarters have agreed this is the best option. Really.

That’s not how it was supposed to be. After dozens of hours of phone calls that displaced my usual work obligations this week, only one thing is clear: Nobody can give anybody a straight or consistent answer to anything.

Our troubles may strike some as trivial and particular, although they wouldn’t if it happened to them. And anyone who wants a successful system – as we do – must understand that these nightmares are happening across the nation to the very people who want Obamacare to work.

Oh, the hope! Oh, the promise! Oh, the unmitigated BS!

Quote
The Phone Person lied. They lie a lot. And this would become very important later.

Three days into 2014, Miles took his Obamacare out for its maiden drive. His stop at the doctor went fine. At the pharmacy, it crashed.

His medication — which has cost us a co-pay of between $10 and $30 under every other plan he’s had since 2004 including one under Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan — would not be covered. At all.

That’s $438 out of pocket. Every month. And it won’t even go against the plan deductible.

In other words, this nifty $246 Obamacare plan would actually cost $686 a month.

I'm tearing up at this point. Really.


The saddest thing is: 

HE STILL THINKS IT COULD "WORK"!  and STILL wants it to "succeed"!  It just needs work.............

Quite insane in my book.    When your drinking the kool-aid that long.......... 

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on January 14, 2014, 03:27:52 PM
Thanks Trap, I needed the release after another sort of depressing i won presser.

http://therightscoop.com/video-obama-were-not-just-waiting-for-legislation-ive-got-a-pen-and-i-can-use-it-to-sign-executive-orders/ (http://therightscoop.com/video-obama-were-not-just-waiting-for-legislation-ive-got-a-pen-and-i-can-use-it-to-sign-executive-orders/)

declaration of dictatorship by none other than f**kface I
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 15, 2014, 07:27:29 AM
(comment on ofukcface redacted due to incindiary nature)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 15, 2014, 09:15:07 AM
Thanks Trap, I needed the release after another sort of depressing i won presser.

http://therightscoop.com/video-obama-were-not-just-waiting-for-legislation-ive-got-a-pen-and-i-can-use-it-to-sign-executive-orders/ (http://therightscoop.com/video-obama-were-not-just-waiting-for-legislation-ive-got-a-pen-and-i-can-use-it-to-sign-executive-orders/)

declaration of dictatorship by none other than f**kface I

You're looking at it wrong warpmine (IMO). I'm encouraged every time the HNIC goes out in front of the cameras and boldly declares his intention to break not only the law but his oath of office.

One of two things is going to come of this: either a sufficient number of people on both the right and the left will say enough is enough and rein him in or we will go to the mats. I'm good either way.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 15, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Jimmy goes off on OTardCare...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2014/01/15/jimmy-kimmel-savages-obamacare-and-uninformed-young-people-who-suppor (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2014/01/15/jimmy-kimmel-savages-obamacare-and-uninformed-young-people-who-suppor)

And the cost is starting to be felt...even if too little too late...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/politics/ads-attacking-on-health-law-stagger-outspent-democrats.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/politics/ads-attacking-on-health-law-stagger-outspent-democrats.html)

So long, Moron!

http://www3.atr.rollcall.com/virginias-moran-announces-retirement-from-congress/ (http://www3.atr.rollcall.com/virginias-moran-announces-retirement-from-congress/)

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: AlanS on January 15, 2014, 05:01:15 PM
Very long and detailed article (http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/14/an-obamacare-supporter-recounts-his-misadventures-dealing-with-healthcare-gov/) written by homosexual Politico hack about the horrible experience that he and his "husband" encountered trying (unsuccessfully) to acquire health coverage via their hero's infamous website. For some reason it didn't make it into The Politico, though, and ended up in The Daily Caller. Go figure.

Quote
As we hoisted champagne flutes in the first seconds of 2014, my partner and I toasted all the usual things people do as they look ahead to the coming year. Health. Happiness. Love. Optimism. Hope.

To that traditional list, we added one more: Obamacare. My husband, Miles, was enrolled in what appeared to be an excellent, affordable plan at the stroke of midnight. Celebration seemed in order.

It had been a tough slog, of course. We’d worried the GOP would succeed in defunding it or undermining it in some other way that would put affordable coverage further out of our reach. Then we’d wrestled with that horrific website, struggled to understand the choices before us and waited nervously after we did so to see if the insurance card would actually materialize. It did.

On Jan. 1, we rejoiced. And on Jan. 10, we gave up.

Ten days in, we decided to cancel Miles’ Obamacare plan, swallow hundreds of dollars we’ll probably never recover and buy him a private policy away from the Federal Health Insurance Exchange Marketplace. His new plan does benefit from many requirements of the Affordable Care Act as well, so that’s good.

But even the administrators at Obamacare’s headquarters have agreed this is the best option. Really.

That’s not how it was supposed to be. After dozens of hours of phone calls that displaced my usual work obligations this week, only one thing is clear: Nobody can give anybody a straight or consistent answer to anything.

Our troubles may strike some as trivial and particular, although they wouldn’t if it happened to them. And anyone who wants a successful system – as we do – must understand that these nightmares are happening across the nation to the very people who want Obamacare to work.

Oh, the hope! Oh, the promise! Oh, the unmitigated BS!

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The Phone Person lied. They lie a lot. And this would become very important later.

Three days into 2014, Miles took his Obamacare out for its maiden drive. His stop at the doctor went fine. At the pharmacy, it crashed.

His medication — which has cost us a co-pay of between $10 and $30 under every other plan he’s had since 2004 including one under Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan — would not be covered. At all.

That’s $438 out of pocket. Every month. And it won’t even go against the plan deductible.

In other words, this nifty $246 Obamacare plan would actually cost $686 a month.

I'm tearing up at this point. Really, I am. Okay, well, no...not really.

Now comes the part where I get to have one of those, "See, I told you so..." laugh out loud moments...

Quote
Much more troubling than the fact that we received so much worthless and conflicting information was that there was nobody to appeal to, nobody to trust.

Quote
Aetna had plans on the federal marketplace as well, so I returned to HealthCare.gov to seek out a different plan for Miles. The site, however, incorrectly — surprise! — believed Miles hadn’t yet enrolled in the plan he was in.

Thus, I found myself back on the line with an Obamcare Phone Person. This time, however, I was told that once someone is enrolled in a plan via the marketplace, they cannot change it until the next open enrollment period in November. The only time to change plans, I learned, was before we paid the first premium.

So...basically...they are screwed. Now, you and I knew that they were screwed from the moment this monstrosity was made into law but it is at this point in the drama that they realize it. Schadenfreude, baby...yeah.

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The material they sent was clearly cut-and-pasted off HealthCare.gov – an explanation of why we couldn’t change our plans and how we should have known that this common medication would not be covered in our plan. There was a line in there about a three-day appeals process when a medication is denied; this was the first time in countless phone calls or emails that anyone even suggested there was such a process. Shouldn’t that have been the first thing the Obamacare Phone People said?

It's okay to laugh.

Quote
Our math had changed. Initially we hoped to get Miles a plan for less than the $421 cost of his COBRA. Now Miles was stuck in an Obamacare plan for $246 plus $438 out of pocket for his medications. Anything less than $690 a month was now a bargain.

So, they get to pay more for the privilege of paying more...and getting less. In other words, this is the same experience everyone else is having. Of course, it still hasn't sunk in yet that there isn't anything unusual about their personal experience. They think that it's a fluke, that everyone else is getting kickass coverage for pennies.

And to, once again, validate the law of, "you can't fix stupid..."

Quote
Come November, we’ll check back and see what Obamacare plans are available for 2015. We want the ACA to work; the previous status quo certainly did not.

Let me get that poor boy a tissue. ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 16, 2014, 07:26:57 AM
The stupid burns so hot the vapors being released make me laugh my arse off!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: BigAlSouth on January 16, 2014, 02:57:43 PM
. . .
You walk in,  you tell them your situation, and you ask them to deal.  Hell even if you are really sick and don't have the money you can work out a payment plan with most places - which is how it was done before WWII when ALMOST NO ONE had insurance. And will be again, because no one will have insurance after Obama care kicks in.

Not so fast there. What do you call Single Payer? We all know this is the true Democrat goal. Screw up the US Health Care System to the point that the insurance companies bankrupt themselves and the choice to the taxpayers is another huge bailout OR SINGLE PAYER.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 16, 2014, 06:48:13 PM


Not so fast there. What do you call Single Payer? We all know this is the true Democrat goal. Screw up the US Health Care System to the point that the insurance companies bankrupt themselves and the choice to the taxpayers is another huge bailout OR SINGLE PAYER.

Single payer is a leftist pipe dream that won't exist for more than a few years before there is a complete dollar collapse and the Fed loose the power to provide anything to anyone.  We are already borrowing the labor of our children to pay for what is being provided now. After a collapse they won't be able to borrow a penny from anyone. So yeah, let it burn. Bring on Single Payer - make the whole thing cost more, borrow more! Add that fuel to the fire, and lets get it over with so that I might live to see some sanity restored for my children in my lifetime.


Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on January 20, 2014, 01:48:42 AM
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A few days ago, when we reported that the existing main IT contractor behind Obamacare, CGI Federal, was kicked out and replaced by Accenture, we wondered the reason was that the government was unable to go through the "full and open competition process" before awarding them with a $91 million contract. Recall that "because of time constraints, CMS is awarding the Accenture contract on a sole-source basis." Naturally in a process plagued with mistake after mistake, awarding an express contract with no RFP or contract bidding, is merely the latest one.

So how does the Federal government explain this scramble to hand over the "sole-sourced" healthcare.gov IT contract (to a company made possible thanks to Enron) so late in the process? Simple: the usual mutually assured destruction tactic used so "effectively" in all other recent rushed decisions. As The Hill reports, unless Accenture finishes (and fixes) the back-end of the HealthCare.gov portal by mid-March, the healthcare law will be jeopardized, according to a procurement document posted on a federal website. The punchline: "It says insurers could be bankrupt and the entire healthcare industry threatened if the build out is not completed." In other words, a newly retained consulting company has less than three months to fix all the errors of coding by a different company, and make sure healthcare.gov is working properly... all 500 million lines of healthcare.gov's code?

This is from Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-19/entire-healthcare-reform-program-jeopardized-unless-accenture-fixes-healthcaregov-mi) and there is a really cool graphic that illustrates just what 500 million lines of code looks like in comparison to other large and complex computer programs. Hint: It's smaller than the human genome but only by a factor of six.

So...what do we have here? We have a new countdown date: mid-March 2014. That's like two months now. A $91 million contract to correct the errors in 500 million lines of code, make the financial back end of DumbassCare work OR ELSE the whole things self destructs. Well, at least we won't have too long to wait. There is absolutely zero chance of this mess being fixed in 2 years, let alone in 2 months.

How long after mid-March before the wheels really start to fall off of this choochoo? I don't know. Hard to say. But if HRH King Barack I starts to issue edicts to prop it up then it won't just be the health insurance industry that will fail. The whole stinking US economy will be put in jeopardy.

It is interesting, in an involuntary passenger/observer sort of way to witness history being made. It is interesting (and horrifying) to see what took dozens of generations of hard work to accomplish be utterly destroyed in less than a decade. Essentially what we, as citizens, are being made to experience here is something like that old, "What are the chances of 1000 monkeys randomly smacking typewriter keys and churning out the combined works of Shakespeare?" story played out for real with the US economic system. We have a very old and very petulant child (aided by some very old, and very stupid wet nurses in Congress) at the controls of the country with no way to stop him from f**king everything up.

Yes, we have been "blessed" with the fortune of living in "interesting times."

(http://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/10/1276_lines_of_code5.png)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 20, 2014, 07:35:09 AM
BOHICA10!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 21, 2014, 07:29:07 AM
All that code...so little devoted to securing the private information of citizens gullible and desperate enough to sign up for it...

Security expert hacks site and downloads 70,000 records in 4 minutes!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-20/security-expert-hacks-obamacare-website-4-minutes-accesses-70000-records (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-20/security-expert-hacks-obamacare-website-4-minutes-accesses-70000-records)

Maybe billions more and another 500m lines of code will do the trick, eh?   ::unknowncomic::

Biggest Fustercluck Ever!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2014, 07:24:46 AM
Target reduces hours for some, fires others...the ObamaCare Effect strikes again!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-22/obamacare-strikes-again-target-drops-part-timers-healthcare-plan-and-fires-others-ju (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-22/obamacare-strikes-again-target-drops-part-timers-healthcare-plan-and-fires-others-ju)

Winning, progressive-style!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 27, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/01/dem-rep-says-obamacare-is-unraveling-we-dont-have-a-solution/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/01/dem-rep-says-obamacare-is-unraveling-we-dont-have-a-solution/)

My knee-jerk reaction seems appropriate - "Tough shyt!"!

Anybody react that way?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on January 27, 2014, 12:43:17 PM
How about "faster, please"?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on January 27, 2014, 02:54:14 PM
Which brings to mind an annoyance I have with the Republican message on this. They keep harping on "We need to replace ObamaCare" which to me sounds too much like concessionary talk, the product of some Beltway consultants who focus grouped it and decided that "replace" is less extremist sounding than "repeal".

The thing has been massively unpopular since before it was even enacted, and yet they still won't have the stones to call for its repeal without an asterisk next to it.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 27, 2014, 03:02:22 PM
Eunuchs.

Into the chipper! 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on January 27, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
Which brings to mind an annoyance I have with the Republican message on this. They keep harping on "We need to replace ObamaCare" which to me sounds too much like concessionary talk, the product of some Beltway consultants who focus grouped it and decided that "replace" is less extremist sounding than "repeal".

The thing has been massively unpopular since before it was even enacted, and yet they still won't have the stones to call for its repeal without an asterisk next to it.

It's their response to the schizoid "publickkkk" that luvs them the parts about covering pre-existing conditions and young people classified as children until they're twenty-six in order to stay on their parents' policies.  (These are the same young people supposed to hop right into Obamacare policies as subsidizers.  More schizoid.)

Same sort of people that know damn well how in debt this country is but insist on "their share" of Medicare and Social Security money.

VDH's latest on the eating of the young:

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/eating-our-young/?singlepage=true (http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/eating-our-young/?singlepage=true)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on January 27, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
I guess it proves the old adage about democracy being a bad system because eventually people just vote largesse to themselves. It's a system that rewards politicians who tell people what they want to hear, and punishes politicians who tell people unpleasant truths.

On comment threads at other sites, someone will usually object to the above by pointing out that this is a republic, not a democracy. Indeed, but they've got their tenses wrong. This was a republic. The past century has seen it transformed into more of a direct democracy, because those darned constitutional restraints were getting in the way of self-serving demagoguery.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 28, 2014, 08:05:57 AM
Nice of traitors to admit their treason as they retire from public (cough! gag!) service, eh?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-27/democratic-congressman-admits-obamacare-wont-work-after-announcing-retirement (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-27/democratic-congressman-admits-obamacare-wont-work-after-announcing-retirement)

 ::cussing::  prick!  Burn in Hell!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on January 30, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
I don't know if any of these people voted for King Putt or any Democrat but you have to believe that one or two (at least) did.

WTAE-PA: Pennsylvania Small Business Hit With Skyrocketing Health Costs From ObamaCare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuA2_P-m4Sk#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on January 30, 2014, 10:37:47 PM
More than two, I'd wager; PA is big union even in non-union shops.

Somebody elected the MFer and it wasn't me or mine.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
More than two, I'd wager; PA is big union even in non-union shops.

Somebody elected the MFer and it wasn't me or mine.

Right on both points.  Minnie is in the same boat union-wise.  And me and mine are not responsible.  Funny, not many are claiming responsibility now, are they?  Gosh, wonder why?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on January 31, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
page is screwy...been trying to post this for the last 10 minutes...

Chicago Grassroots Activists to Obama: You're Out of Touch (VIDEO)

Poor, black Chicago residents telling Obama: "Just Quit", "Just step down", "You can't fix this"

http://blog.heritage.org/2014/01/31/chicago-grassroots-activists-obama-youre-touch/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social (http://blog.heritage.org/2014/01/31/chicago-grassroots-activists-obama-youre-touch/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)

Chicago Grassroots React to State of the Union--Obama, The Big Let Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7mYg6Gt15o#ws)

http://youtu.be/L7mYg6Gt15o (http://youtu.be/L7mYg6Gt15o)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on January 31, 2014, 09:20:20 AM
Groundhog's Day...Obama style.

http://vimeo.com/85044553 (http://vimeo.com/85044553)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
Holy smokes does this graphic really nail OTardCare!

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/01/obamacare-explained/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/01/obamacare-explained/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 31, 2014, 02:02:14 PM
More than two, I'd wager; PA is big union even in non-union shops.

Somebody elected the MFer and it wasn't me or mine.

not here either but gee those overcome with The One are pretty silent nowadays    ::thinking::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on January 31, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
More than two, I'd wager; PA is big union even in non-union shops.

Somebody elected the MFer and it wasn't me or mine.

not here either but gee those overcome with The One are pretty silent nowadays    ::thinking::

Do you think they're beginning to realize that he's not Uncle Sugar?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on January 31, 2014, 02:55:09 PM
And gee whiz, it only took them electing him twice to figure it out? I wonder who ties their shoes for them in the morning.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on January 31, 2014, 02:56:35 PM
And gee whiz, it only took them electing him twice to figure it out? I wonder who ties their shoes for them in the morning.

Just read a newspaper. Almost any newspaper will do, anywhere in the country and in the free world.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 11, 2014, 08:17:30 AM
More lawless dictates from the Dictator!

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303650204579375310934336066?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303650204579375310934336066.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hpp_sections_opinion (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303650204579375310934336066?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303650204579375310934336066.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hpp_sections_opinion)

Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want'

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-thats-good-thing-president-i-can-do-whatever-i-want_778944.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-thats-good-thing-president-i-can-do-whatever-i-want_778944.html)

Heil, Obama!

ETA - Another WTF moment - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-11/illinois-taps-onion-sell-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-11/illinois-taps-onion-sell-obamacare)

This comment says it all - "Satire imitating satire.  Yup, we've gone full retard."
Title: Obamacare Defined
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on February 12, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Definition of Obamacare--one sentence!

This is an excellent definition of OBAMACARE.



To insure the uninsured, we first make the insured uninsured and then make them pay more to be insured again with less coverage so the original uninsured can be insured for free. 
Title: Re: Obamacare Defined
Post by: warpmine on February 12, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
Definition of Obamacare--one sentence!

This is an excellent definition of OBAMACARE.



To insure the uninsured, we first make the insured uninsured and then make them pay more to be insured again with less coverage so the original uninsured can be insured for free. 
Sounds about right.
 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 13, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/obama-roberts-geithner.jpg)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on February 13, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
Just in time for Valentine's Day - from @TedCruz's Twitter feed...

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Mix%20Art/HeExemptsMe_zpsd43e446d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 13, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
I prefer "Obama, how much doth I loath thee?  Let me enumerate!". 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 14, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/democrat-cheers-americans-working-fewer-hours-due-to-obamacare-actually-its-an-exciting-prospect-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/democrat-cheers-americans-working-fewer-hours-due-to-obamacare-actually-its-an-exciting-prospect-video/)

Unreal.

Wait until they are all working zero hours...the O-gasm will kill these DemonRats!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2014, 11:17:54 AM
Yup.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=225525 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=225525)
Title: Obamacare Thread
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on February 20, 2014, 02:20:34 PM
Quote
Health Law's Impact Has Only Begun
Insurers Seek Healthy Enrollees, Doctors Educate New Patients, Employers Wrestle With Added Costs

By ANNA WILDE MATHEWS CONNECT
Updated Feb. 18, 2014 9:49 p.m. ET

On Jan. 1, the key provisions of the Affordable Care Act took effect. Americans gained access to new health plans subsidized by federal dollars. Insurers no longer can turn away people with existing conditions. Millions are now eligible for new Medicaid benefits.

But the federal law also upended existing health-insurance arrangements for millions of people. Companies worry about the expense of providing new policies, some hospitals aren't seeing the influx of new patients they expected to balance new costs and entrepreneurs say they may hire more part-time workers to avoid offering more coverage.

The law's true impact will play out over years. It will depend in part on whether backers overcome serious early setbacks, including crippling glitches in the new online insurance marketplaces and many states' rejection of the Medicaid expansion. But another obstacle the law faces is pushback from some consumers and industry over the higher costs, complex rules and mandatory requirements it imposes. (Watch doctors, business owners and patients share their stories about the health law, and tell us your own.)

So far, 3.3 million have signed up for plans through the new government marketplaces, federal officials said Feb. 12. About 6.3 million were determined eligible for Medicaid through the exchanges over the final three months of 2013, including people who might have been able to enroll without the law.

The law's potential for change can be seen in the lives of people like Jaime Hood, a 37-year-old in Belton, Mo. She suffers from hemophilia and had been rejected for coverage until this year. Now, she will have access to drugs and other treatments she sometimes skipped.

But the other side of the law is felt by customers such as John Lavey, 60, of Southern California's Orange County. His insurer sent him a letter in October saying his family's plan didn't comply with the law, and the closest thing he could get would cost nearly twice as much, or about $1,117 a month. "It doesn't seem fair to our situation," he said. To him, the law feels like "the redistribution of wealth theory."

Signed up and eligible? How many have actually enrolled and made the first payment?


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303491404579391740095244018?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303491404579391740095244018.html (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303491404579391740095244018?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303491404579391740095244018.html)
Title: Re: Obamacare Thread
Post by: Pandora on February 20, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
There's an existing thread, oc.  Moving this there.
Title: Re: Obamacare Thread
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on February 20, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
There's an existing thread, oc.  Moving this there.

I couldn't find it. I'm old and stupic, so cut me some slack!  ::oldman::
Title: Re: Obamacare Thread
Post by: Pandora on February 20, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
There's an existing thread, oc.  Moving this there.

I couldn't find it. I'm old and stupic, so cut me some slack!  ::oldman::

Did I imply you were either old or stupic?  Newp. 

It's better to put a comment in the thread about moving stuff, instead of PMing you every time, so everybody else knows what's going on too.

You peckin' a fight?   ::viking::
Title: Re: Obamacare Thread
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on February 20, 2014, 03:12:05 PM
There's an existing thread, oc.  Moving this there.

I couldn't find it. I'm old and stupic, so cut me some slack!  ::oldman::


Did I imply you were either old or stupic?  Newp. 

It's better to put a comment in the thread about moving stuff, instead of PMing you every time, so everybody else knows what's going on too.

You peckin' a fight?   ::viking::

You implied NOTHING. That's MY opinion of muhsef!

I ain't pecking anything!  ::rimshot::

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on February 20, 2014, 03:20:46 PM
When approached by a she-bear.....lay very still....make no noises.....two or three days later she will probably calm down and stop chewing your leg off.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 25, 2014, 11:42:26 AM
Cowards!

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/199121-obamacare-stars-fade (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/199121-obamacare-stars-fade)

Typical schmucks!

All those adoring brain-dead fans out there who cling to every ignorant cue card read by the glitteratti...

All of them can choke and croak!



Oh, and Small Business?  You are next in the ObamaCare crosshairs!!!

Umm, after the elections, of course...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/more-bad-news-obamacare-will-raise-premiums-for-23-of-small-businesses/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/more-bad-news-obamacare-will-raise-premiums-for-23-of-small-businesses/)

Forward, Soviet!!!

/

 ::machinegun::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2014, 07:28:02 AM
Here we go...

IRS Issues Warning about “Shared Responsibility Payment”  (http://www.atr.org/irs-warns-obamacare-tax-must-paid-a8164)

How can there possibly be equal treatment under the law with this enforcement mecahnism?  How will the IRS track down those who do not file income taxes?  How will it track down the indigent street people?  Will it target only those it can reach? Those with accounts and other assets to seize?

There should be blood over this.  And I think there will be...eventually.

Welcome to the Fourth Reich!  All Hail Lord Obama!

/

Seriously..."Shared Responsibility Payment"?!

This is like a nightmare pulled from the pages of Ayn Rand!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 26, 2014, 07:57:01 AM
Here we go...

IRS Issues Warning about “Shared Responsibility Payment”  (http://www.atr.org/irs-warns-obamacare-tax-must-paid-a8164)

How can there possibly be equal treatment under the law with this enforcement mecahnism?  How will the IRS track down those who do not file income taxes?  How will it track down the indigent street people?  Will it target only those it can reach? Those with accounts and other assets to seize?

You don't get it. those people you are describing are irresponsible people. This is the shared responsibility tax -- is a tax on PERSONALLY  RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE  for being responsible. They want to share the consequences of your responsibility with the the irresponsible.

  Want out of the tax? Be irresponsible.  Stop making money and love on the dole and they will leave you alone.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2014, 11:28:57 AM
Here we go...

IRS Issues Warning about “Shared Responsibility Payment”  (http://www.atr.org/irs-warns-obamacare-tax-must-paid-a8164)

How can there possibly be equal treatment under the law with this enforcement mecahnism?  How will the IRS track down those who do not file income taxes?  How will it track down the indigent street people?  Will it target only those it can reach? Those with accounts and other assets to seize?

You don't get it. those people you are describing are irresponsible people. This is the shared responsibility tax -- is a tax on PERSONALLY  RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE  for being responsible. They want to share the consequences of your responsibility with the the irresponsible.

  Want out of the tax? Be irresponsible.  Stop making money and love on the dole and they will leave you alone.

Don't tempt me bro!  I always told my friends as early as 30 years ago I would be a deadbeat bum before I capitulate to the tyranny of full-blown socialist crap!

Seriously, working and playing by the rules is completely retarded, is it not?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
Terrorist ObamaCare Navigator...

Figures...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=226842 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=226842)

Oh, and y'all see this?

http://weaselzippers.us/177026-hamburger-coke-and-obamacare-restaurants-now-charging-obamacare-fee-on-your-meal/ (http://weaselzippers.us/177026-hamburger-coke-and-obamacare-restaurants-now-charging-obamacare-fee-on-your-meal/)

If true, all I gotta say is...hopefully is slows business down to where they go under...certainly that would make Obama et al happy, nothing like more people off the job rolls to move Forward!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on March 03, 2014, 09:23:12 AM
Quote
Troubling Things You May Not Know About IPAB
President Obama’s Secret Rationing Board Given Enormous Power, No Accountability

Washington, Mar 5, 2012 | 0 comments

Buried in Section 3403 of ObamaCare is a powerful board of unelected bureaucrats, the so-called “Independent Payment Advisory Board” (IPAB), whose sole job will be to save money by restricting access to health care for Medicare beneficiaries.  IPAB is required to achieve specified savings in years where Medicare spending is deemed “too high,” according to the Democrats’ health care overhaul.

While few Americans are aware that this ObamaCare rationing board even exists, it embodies the very thing Americans feared most about the law – unaccountable Washington bureaucrats meeting behind closed doors to make unilateral decisions that should be made by patients and their doctors.  A review of  IPAB’s powers make clear that the American people have every reason to be concerned.  Tomorrow, the Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health will convene to hear from stakeholders about the impact this ill-conceived rationing board will have on Medicare beneficiaries and their health care providers.  These are just a few of the items that may come up for discussion:

The Democrats did not prevent IPAB from rationing health care.  The Democrats claim they “prevent” IPAB from including recommendations to ration health care.  However, the Democrats chose not to define what they meant by “ration,” and such a definition does not appear anywhere in the Medicare statute.  So, rationing is in the eye of the IPAB beholder.  IPAB would be free to cut reimbursement rates for procedures and services that IPAB deems “unnecessary” to levels so low that no physician would provide the care.
 
The Democrats’ rationing board will threaten seniors’ access to care.  Medicare is already known for its low reimbursement rates (e.g., Medicare physician payment rates are 20 percent lower than what they receive from private health plans), which have forced many physicians to stop accepting new Medicare patients.  IPAB is specifically tasked with cutting provider rates even further.  Countless physician groups have warned these cuts will force many to stop seeing Medicare patients.  Because TRICARE reimbursement rates are directly tied to Medicare, health care for military personnel will be impacted by these cuts as well.
 
Democrats require seniors and Americans with disabilities to pay for IPAB to cut their Medicare benefits.  IPAB’s annual operating budget is raided from the Medicare trust funds.  This means that IPAB’s generous member salaries ($165,300 for members and $179,700 for IPAB’s chairperson in 2012) will be paid directly out of the trust funds used to pay Medicare beneficiaries’ health care claims.  IPAB staff will also be paid out of the Medicare trust funds (up to $145,700 per employee in 2012).  So will all travel expenses and stipends.  What a deal!

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=283271 (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=283271)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2014, 11:19:57 AM
DemonRats: Pay, or just go away and die!

Hey, isn't this what they've been accusing the GOP of for 40 years?  Isn't this what AARP used to elect DemonRats?

Ironic, eh?

Let it all burn!  I just don't give a flipping rip anymore!!!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2014, 11:39:06 AM
Check this out.

Illegals signing up...by accident.   ::saywhat::   ::hysterical:: 

Accident my fat   ::mooning:: !!

http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2014/03/cover_oregon_health_insurance_1.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2014/03/cover_oregon_health_insurance_1.html)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bill-make-fine-0-violating-individual-mandate-passes-90-votes_784223.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bill-make-fine-0-violating-individual-mandate-passes-90-votes_784223.html)

Reid will sit on it.

But umm, even the cynics in the establishment cannot even go beyond 1 year?  I guess they no pointless when they see it.

So do people who see weakness and an inability to cut off funding to force repeal.

I long to fiddle while Rome burns...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 06, 2014, 12:21:02 PM

I long to fiddle while Rome burns...

Really?  I was planning on playing "Everything is Awesome" on endless loop  with the volume set to 11.
It seems like it should be the last thing these morons should hear before they die at the sword of the barbarian hordes.


Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 07, 2014, 07:10:45 AM

I long to fiddle while Rome burns...

Really?  I was planning on playing "Everything is Awesome" on endless loop  with the volume set to 11.
It seems like it should be the last thing these morons should hear before they die at the sword of the barbarian hordes.

Sorry, I neglected to elaborate on my definition of fiddling...you are of course correct...I just wanted to convey the satisfaction of seeing the hordes at play...and jumping in when the opportunities present themselves of course.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 12, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
“If you looked at their cable bill, their telephone, their cell phone bill… it may turn out that, it’s just they haven’t prioritized health care.” Barrackulous Now, to ingrates bitching about ObamaCare insurance...yes, telling the FSA the free ride is over in this instance is priceless!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/obama-you-can-afford-obamacare-if-you-cut-out-cable-cell-phones-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/obama-you-can-afford-obamacare-if-you-cut-out-cable-cell-phones-video/)

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 12, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
“If you looked at their cable bill, their telephone, their cell phone bill… it may turn out that, it’s just they haven’t prioritized health care.” Barrackulous Now, to ingrates bitching about ObamaCare insurance...yes, telling the FSA the free ride is over in this instance is priceless!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/obama-you-can-afford-obamacare-if-you-cut-out-cable-cell-phones-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/obama-you-can-afford-obamacare-if-you-cut-out-cable-cell-phones-video/)

 ::laughonfloor::

If there is no bread, let them eat cake.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on March 13, 2014, 11:55:57 AM

I long to fiddle while Rome burns...

Really?  I was planning on playing "Everything is Awesome" on endless loop  with the volume set to 11.
It seems like it should be the last thing these morons should hear before they die at the sword of the barbarian hordes.

I was considering, "It's a Wonderful World".
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 13, 2014, 12:19:21 PM
I was considering, "It's a Wonderful World".

No - I like that song. Yes, it would be ironic.. but I don't want it to be associated with the death and mayhem I get to witness.
"Everything is Awesome" is already annoying to begin with, has lyrics that sum up the liberal lefty lifestyle and ability to reason, and also has that ironic factor.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 13, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
Rush talking Ears O'Bongo extending Individual Mandate once again...

Friggin' scumbag lying bastards...

This whole POS was the biggest fricken fraud ever perpetrated on the American people...second only to Duh Whun himself!

Screw 2016, push it out to 2019 or 2021...gotta protect those progressives in those bullshyt elections too!

If you're a progressive "Everything is Awesome" sure as shyt fits!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 17, 2014, 11:55:19 AM
Another bold idiotic statement in support of O'TardCare...

(http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/wp-content/gallery/media-hacks/bill-maher.jpg)

“The problem with Obamacare is not, of course, too much socialism,” Maher told Smith. “It’s still too much capitalism.”

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229036 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229036)

 ::laughonfloor::

Loooossssseerrrr!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: AlanS on March 17, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
Another bold idiotic statement in support of O'TardCare...

(http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/wp-content/gallery/media-hacks/bill-maher.jpg)

“The problem with Obamacare is not, of course, too much socialism,” Maher told Smith. “It’s still too much capitalism.”

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229036 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229036)

 ::laughonfloor::

Loooossssseerrrr!

If he hates capitalism so much, let him give away his salary.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on March 18, 2014, 12:01:53 PM
Hoo boy; I just heard Sammy Hagar on the radio shilling for "getting insured" through Healthcare dot gov.

Gawd.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 18, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Hoo boy; I just heard Sammy Hagar on the radio shilling for "getting insured" through Healthcare dot gov.

Gawd.
Are you kidding? ::rockethrow::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on March 18, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
Newp, not kidding.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
What a moron.

Must be hard up for cash to buy booze and floozies.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 18, 2014, 02:53:31 PM
Newp, not kidding.
I guess that's to be expected growing up in socialist So. CA.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 19, 2014, 06:43:34 AM
More hilarity yet to ensue...more premiums to go stratospheric!

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201136-obamacare-premiums-are-about-to-skyrocket (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201136-obamacare-premiums-are-about-to-skyrocket)

Brilliant!

And this...well, from the people who are sending the entire nation down the shytter, what would you expect?

(http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/wh1.gif)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/white-house-website-now-pushing-obamacare-with-twerking-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/white-house-website-now-pushing-obamacare-with-twerking-video/)

 ::unknowncomic::

Speaking of the young and dumb...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/barack-obama-to-young-people-purchase-obamacare-or-face-a-penalty/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/barack-obama-to-young-people-purchase-obamacare-or-face-a-penalty/)

...hope they feel an immense amount of regret for supporting Duh Wun and his merry band of progressive Democrats!

Ha haaaa!!!  Choke on it!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 20, 2014, 11:47:31 AM
DEGENERES: It’s doing very, very well...you’ve got 5 million people signed up so far. [Applause] An enormous number of people have signed up, so it’s successful....Well, for people who are starting to applaud here, I think everyone’s very grateful that you did this. And I think it is important for people to sign up. It’s just better to be covered. You just never know.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/03/20/ellen-sucks-obama-obamacare-doing-very-very-welli-think-everyones-very-g#ixzz2wWRD8Gwv (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/03/20/ellen-sucks-obama-obamacare-doing-very-very-welli-think-everyones-very-g#ixzz2wWRD8Gwv)

If Ellen Degenerate wasn't a known dyke I would have expected her next move to be to drop to her knees and do what is doubly unnatural for her to do...

Lets see how many stupid people buy this BS and rush to sign up...

What?

Site traffic is naught?  That's about right.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 20, 2014, 12:18:57 PM
DEGENERES: It’s doing very, very well...you’ve got 5 million people signed up so far. [Applause] An enormous number of people have signed up, so it’s successful....Well, for people who are starting to applaud here, I think everyone’s very grateful that you did this. And I think it is important for people to sign up. It’s just better to be covered. You just never know.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/03/20/ellen-sucks-obama-obamacare-doing-very-very-welli-think-everyones-very-g#ixzz2wWRD8Gwv (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/03/20/ellen-sucks-obama-obamacare-doing-very-very-welli-think-everyones-very-g#ixzz2wWRD8Gwv)

If Ellen Degenerate wasn't a known dyke I would have expected her next move to be to drop to her knees and do what is doubly unnatural for her to do...

Lets see how many stupid people buy this BS and rush to sign up...

What?

Site traffic is naught?  That's about right.

Lets see, weren't they complaining about 30 MILLION uninsured when they were pushing this?  The NYT was pushing a number like 48 Million.  (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us/percentage-of-americans-lacking-health-coverage-falls-again.html?_r=0)


Quote
In 2012, the bureau said, 15.4 percent of people were uninsured, down from 15.7 percent in 2011. The number of uninsured people, 48 million, was not statistically different from the estimate of 48.6 million in 2011.


And How many Millions LOST their coverage? almost 5 million according to AP (http://news.yahoo.com/policy-notifications-current-status-state-204701399.html)  I love the liberal spin," (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/12/31/stunning-new-report-undermines-central-gop-obamacare-claim/)

Quote
But of those, who will get a new plan?
According to the report, half of the 4.7 million will have the option to renew their 2013 plans, thanks to an administrative fix this year.
Of the remaining 2.35 million individuals, 1.4 million should be eligible for tax credits through the marketplaces or Medicaid, according to the report.
Of the remaining 950,000 individuals, fewer than 10,000 people in 18 counties will lack access to an affordable catastrophic plan.

So yeah they lost thier plans, but half can get them back because the President illegally changed a law without congress!
And then the rest <COULD> get new plans that offer less and cost more ( even after tax credits)
and the remaining MILLION, well they <COULD> get a "catastrophic plan" ( which covers doct visits, prenatal care, and condoms)  if they wanted it.

Well of the 47 Million who didn't have insurance in the first place, that you just added 2 MILLION to, how many <COULD> have bought insurance and chose not to..  Well lets do the match shall we..  Say all of those 2.35 Million individuals who had health care before sign up again under Obamacare.  And You have signed up 5 Million people,  so an additional 2.65 Million from 47 Milllion chose to sign up.  Yea! Its a success ! The are only 43 Million uninsured now.

And not to mention those 5 Million are only the sick people  and the whole scheme is doomed to failure ( as it was designed to be)  its a fantastic success.
Just remeber that when you tell us later that we need single payer because its not working. F'ers.
 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on March 20, 2014, 12:36:56 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, I present William Pitt, of Karl Rove is about to be frogmarched fame, in all his uncensored glory.

Straight from that ultimate den of howling monkeys (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024685964)

What I've learned about the Affordable Care Act

Quote
What I've learned after a three-month war with these fiends: the ACA says the insurance companies cannot deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, which is true as far as it goes. But they can deny coverage for the life-saving medications necessary to treat those conditions. The insurance company I signed up with through the ACA exchange just denied coverage of my wife's multiple sclerosis medication. We're "covered," to the tune of $700 a month...just not for what she really needs.

A cozy loophole, that.

f**k you, insurance industry.

f**k you, Mr. President, you piece of sh*t used-car salesman.

From my heart and soul, f**k you.

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on March 20, 2014, 11:14:12 PM
Damn, you beat me to it. That post at the Democrat Underground is the ULTIMATE. I hear by declare that the entire thing is required reading.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. Okay...you won't cry but you will laugh a lot. This is the absolute best. Click on the above link and ENJOY.

For some background on who this douche is you can read about him at NewsBusters. (http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/03/19/notorious-duer-will-pitt-turns-angrily-against-obamacare)

One other link: This link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024180722) will take you to the first DU post. This is the one that starts out with how happy he was that he was going to "get covered."

The post that MNHawk linked to was written on the 18th of March. This one (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024690196) was written on the 19th (yesterday) and it's more of the same.

EDIT: Having read a lot of this stuff now I can say that I do feel sorry* for the douche and especially for his ailing spouse. He f**ked up. He trusted Obama. And now he is paying dearly for it. His spouse suffers from MS and cannot get the meds she needs because the stupid-ass DumbassCare plan that they have does not cover them. She was on COBRA and they (stupidly) let it go when he (excitedly) signed up for DumbassCare. And now he (and his unfortunate spouse) are paying dearly for that choice. She is going to suffer. A lot. He will, too. And he will have to live with the knowledge that it was his stupid-ass politics, his cheerleading for Obama and DumbassCare that ultimately doomed his spouse.

So...I can exercise some modicum of sympathy for my political adversary but can his buddies at DU? Some of them, yes. A lot of them, most decidedly no. He is getting the kind of "sympathy" and "advice" from those clowns that Job received from his "friends" which is to say, pretty horrid and unhelpful. The comments from his comrades at the DU are pretty horrible...a smorgasbord of Monday morning quarterbacking about what he did wrong and why he shouldn't be blaming Obama, etc. Totally disgusting. But, that said, you lie with dogs...

*I feel sorry for him the way that I feel sorry for a rabid dog who is obviously suffering but still needs to be put down. The thing is, he has learned nothing really. If you were to ask him about any of the other horribly damaging things that his hero is doing to the country he would stand up for all of that crap without hesitation. He is, after all, a true believer. All he knows right now is that DumbassCare is not working for him and he's pretty pissed off about it. And that it's all about him. I can guarantee that he wouldn't be outraged if this were happening to someone else (witness his buddies on DU). So, although I feel sorry for him and his spouse I really don't because it would be like feeling sorry for Saddam Hussein being tortured after he was captured. No, I don't want to see Saddam tortured...I would rather see him just plain executed. And that's because he deserved to be punished for his multitudinous acts of terror. I guess I would shoot him in his extremities a few times and let him bleed out in as much pain as possible but I wouldn't want to be a torturer per se. This William Pitt is an absolute puke and what he is going through is horrible and, yes, he deserves it for all of the accumulated filth he has spewed for many years but I take no actual joy in his suffering even though I am reasonably sure that he would be delighted in watching any conservative suffer. I am happy to have that distinction.

Quote
"I long for a time machine.

I helped, in my own small way, to promote this thing, because of the pre-existing conditions aspect that would benefit my wife. I feel like a f**king dupe.

On edit: I AM a f**king dupe. Last time that happens."

And he is a dupe but continues to be one on all other lib issues so no lesson learned. Here is a typical response to his thread:

Quote
What does the President have to do with your insurance company's formulary?

I mean the attack seems purely gratuitous.

Another...

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It's your responsiblity to check to see if your medications are covered. This was true before the ACA.

The fact is that you can work with the insurance company to see if they will cover it, and you can appeal their decision.

Or this one:

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I can see getting angry at an insurance company adjustor

Who won't do what you want right away. But the POTUS is not the first person I'd think of. Just weird.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 21, 2014, 06:50:05 AM
Got to love it ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2014, 07:02:57 AM
*I feel sorry for him the way that I feel sorry for a rabid dog who is obviously suffering but still needs to be put down. The thing is, he has learned nothing really. If you were to ask him about any of the other horribly damaging things that his hero is doing to the country he would stand up for all of that crap without hesitation. He is, after all, a true believer. All he knows right now is that DumbassCare is not working for him and he's pretty pissed off about it. And that it's all about him. I can guarantee that he wouldn't be outraged if this were happening to someone else (witness his buddies on DU).

This is the crux of it for me.  The only difference being I do not feel sorry for him one damn bit, that may seem cold and calous to some but that is something somebody else will have to get over (and pretty damn quick if things go full sideways!), no I don't feel sorry, I feel disgust, I feel anger that someone can so prostrate themselves to a single ideology without thinking and then somehow act surprised when they discover the evil inherint in the actions taken by the people and ideas they elevate and worship above all others...even above their own spouse or child or parent.  I damn them.  I damn each and every one of them!  They are mindless selfish useless unthinking drones who do evil's bidding cheerfully and without a second thought.  If the demon they devoted themselves to bites their ass off I say good, one last ass to worry about!  You got what you deserved, we who stood up and shouted from the rooftops the evils that were coming were mocked, ridiculed, marginalized, demonized, slandered, libeled and cursed by your kind.  No, I DO NOT feel sorry for any of you, I feel for those innocents YOU have harmed, and you will pay dearly for it one way or another, God as our witness.

Witness the avatar of this clown, a baby, that is almost too perfect...but it is not just any baby, no sweet innocent...more like Rosemary's baby (Not George Clooney!  Well...maybe, who knows?)...spawn of the most unclean.

And this is pure leftist BS!  On edit: I AM a f**king dupe. Last time that happens." He is a liar, he is a f**king liar!  If his Messiah, regardless if he and his minions make a change beneficial to he and his, comes up with another brilliant leftist idea, he will be 100% in the tank for it!  f**king liar!

Sorry?  Sorry my ass!  I hate this clown and everybody like it!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 21, 2014, 08:00:02 AM
Feeling sorry for this guy is like feeling sorry for the thug in the gang that just robbed, when the rest of his gang stabs him in the back and runs off with his share of the loot.

You feel sorry for the rabid dog because the rabid dog, while dangerous, did not willingly and with malice in his heart  contract rabies with the intention to harm.

This guy didn't give a crap who he would hurt - and supported it because he thought  that this would help his wife.  He Chose to do no research into it. He Chose to refuse to consider the ramifications logically.  He did not care if it would steal from you. He did not care if the opportunities for corruption and graft by politicians and their crony corporations would increase. He did not care about the freedoms lost or the anger in his fellow man he would engender.  Like any Kindergartner - he wanted what he wanted, but unlike the Kindergartner, he is an adult and culpable for ignoring morality and decency in his quest for what he wanted.  He not only deserves to be put down but to suffer horribly. Its his bed, let him die in it.   He deserves no mercy for he would offer  you none.  Every die-hard  Lefty is a sociopathic Narcissist incapable of seeing other people as people.

EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.  Again just ask them about "live and let live" and how that philosophy would indicate they shouldn't be using the government to interfere with activities that do no harm to others - and look at the response.  There is no such thing as a "liberal friend"
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 21, 2014, 03:22:30 PM
Is he out there calling for a repeal?

If not he hasn't learned anything.

I bet he still thinks universal coverage is the way to go; it's just Obamacare that's messed up.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on March 22, 2014, 12:26:49 AM
Is he out there calling for a repeal?

If not he hasn't learned anything.

I bet he still thinks universal coverage is the way to go; it's just Obamacare that's messed up.

I believe you are correct. He's pretty pissed off at his hero but that's because his hero has allowed the evil insurance companies to deny him what he wants and is entitled to. So, yeah...single payer is his answer.

Except, of course, it isn't. That just puts the decision of who lives and who dies into different hands.

The thing that these clods miss is that ultimately we all live or die at God's discretion and that when you get right down to it there isn't a damned thing that any human can do to change that. They will not accept that truth and instead pursue whatever chimera de jour that is currently popular with the humanist (and atheist) left as the answer to all of their problems, misery and suffering.

You can live the healthy lifestyle, get world class health care and whatever else you believe will extend your life another day, year or decade and yet, it is a mirage. You will go when it is your time and it will be as painful or as painless as it will be and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it. Other than prepare your soul, that is.

I have a tremendous amount of peace and tranquility in my life due solely to my personal faith in Christ. I am no better than anyone else but I have the knowledge that I am forgiven and saved by Grace. The leftists rage on and on because their faith is in the state and it is, like all human endeavors, doomed to failure.

I pity pathetic creatures such as William Pitt. He is lost and does not even know it.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on March 22, 2014, 03:44:08 AM
He reminds me of those creatures Solzhenitsyn described in the gulags: "What is the meaning of this?!  If Comrade Stalin finds out what you have done, your goose is cooked!"

Stalin put you in that gulag, comrade.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2014, 02:48:43 PM
Willy Boy is one of those ObamaBots who also fails to understand how small businesses gets taxed, I bet he'd join the "Drudge is Lying Club" too.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/21/White-House-Leads-Liberal-Media-In-Matt-Drudge-Attack (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/21/White-House-Leads-Liberal-Media-In-Matt-Drudge-Attack)

Liberty Tax...as in if you want it you have to pay Unca Shug for the right...

God, strike down these people with righteous fire!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2014, 10:30:41 AM
I see lightning hasn't hit yet...not even after another whopper of a lie...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/more-lies-pelosi-democrats-are-the-jobs-party/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/more-lies-pelosi-democrats-are-the-jobs-party/)

...it appears the Almighty has had enough of us...it's in our hands now, can we evict the morons pissing in our pool yet?

And hey, you lazy unemployed (counted or not!) get off your butts and get into healthcare, Pelousy says business is bangin'!

 ::hysterical::


ETA - Nasty Pelousy to be given the Sanger Award, yes that Sanger, you read it right...

Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PP) announced that House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, an alleged Roman Catholic, will be given “the Margaret Sanger Award, the organization’s highest honor, in recognition of her leadership, excellence, and outstanding contributions to the reproductive health and rights movement over the course of her career,” according to a Planned Parenthood website posting…
Read more at http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229703#1DFIfBPrgjRHKz4J.99 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=229703#1DFIfBPrgjRHKz4J.99)

Sure, why not, crap clumps together...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 23, 2014, 12:53:04 PM
How is exterminating the life within you anything like reproductive health? ::rockethrow::

Must be the same nonsense that says, unemployment and SNAP are healthy for the economy. Not claimiing to be the smartest or anywhere close but I really hate stupid people that cling to this sh*t.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 24, 2014, 07:29:11 AM
Without the stupid progressives could not exist.

ETA - Speaking of stupid...it just keeps coming out of the Obama Regime and other DC swamp creatures...

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201791-boehner-what-the-hell-is-this-a-joke (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201791-boehner-what-the-hell-is-this-a-joke)

Obama issues another edict and the entire Regime is caught once again lying its ass off and all The Great Weeping Carrot can say is “What the hell is this, a joke?” ?!

No, dumbass!  You are the joke!  You and the rest of you pantywaist ObamaCare non-repealling non-defunding useless sacks of excrement are the real joke!

 ::mooning::

Dingy Harry to the youth of America he and the rest of his sorry party need in order to make the bloated dying pig last a few years before they can "strengthen" it with single payer - you are too damned stupid to know how to use the internet AlGore invented!

http://freebeacon.com/issues/harry-reid-people-arent-educated-on-how-to-use-the-internet/ (http://freebeacon.com/issues/harry-reid-people-arent-educated-on-how-to-use-the-internet/)

That's a heck of a campaign commercial right there.

Their other strategy (apart from the standard lying, cheating, stealing, making false accusations, election fraud, etc etc) is to promise everyone they can get stoned off their asses if the vote for them...

http://theweek.com/article/index/258722/speedreads-democrats-great-green-hope-americans-only-want-to-vote-for-marijuana (http://theweek.com/article/index/258722/speedreads-democrats-great-green-hope-americans-only-want-to-vote-for-marijuana)

...not sure there is enough weed for that...

And as for getting out of the "Liberty Tax" as named by Drudge...we've discussed this option before and the Drudge case is bringing it up again...

The “health care sharing ministry” exemption.

http://www.openmarket.org/2014/03/25/how-matt-drudge-and-other-obamacare-victims-can-escape-the-liberty-tax/ (http://www.openmarket.org/2014/03/25/how-matt-drudge-and-other-obamacare-victims-can-escape-the-liberty-tax/)

I still favor an in-their-face/up-yours strategy but I am not opposed to people using Cloward-Piven tactics against them...my only beef is that in a backhanded way this legitimizes ObamaCare and makes it possible for it to survive.

I want it completely nuked.
 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2014, 07:29:11 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/27/Obamacare-Navigators-Help-Enroll-At-Mexican-Consulates (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/27/Obamacare-Navigators-Help-Enroll-At-Mexican-Consulates)

This we stand for?  How much longer?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on March 27, 2014, 08:06:26 PM
Apparently we're going to stand for it as long as Dancing With The Stars and American Idol are on TV.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2014, 07:08:58 AM
Oh no!  Don't be silly!  Boehner and McConnell can fix this dontchyaknow?!  It's a good law, just needs some tweaking!

/

BITS!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 29, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
Oh no!  Don't be silly!  Boehner and McConnell can fix this dontchyaknow?!  It's a good law, just needs some twerking!

/

BITS!
Fixed it
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 31, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Good humor here!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/oh-brother-rachel-ray-tears-up-pushing-obamacare-with-joe-biden-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/oh-brother-rachel-ray-tears-up-pushing-obamacare-with-joe-biden-video/)

 ::hysterical::  What a kool-aide guzzling moron!  But hey, this is what progressive tools look like!   ::laughonfloor::

Cry some more!

 ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2014, 07:09:44 AM
7M on ObamaCare...right...and what the Regime isn't telling you is that at best only 1/3 of those are from the formerly uninsured population...the vast majority are people who had perfectly fine health insurance plans that got AXED by ObamaCare!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/)

So no matter what that Fabricator-in-Chief says...or any of his zombie-slaves...the debate over this atrocious POS is NOT over, not by a long shot fothermuckers!

Sure would be nice to have an opposition party purged of ruling class asshats to carry that fight though...

How do you spell "hosed"?  If you said "G - O - P" give yourself a cookie!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2014, 11:34:26 AM
These work...

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/cartoon-of-the-day-fools/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/cartoon-of-the-day-fools/)

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/cartoon-of-the-day-contravention/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/cartoon-of-the-day-contravention/)

Every day is April Fool's Day when you have a dangerous psycho for a POTUS!   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 02, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
7M on ObamaCare...right...and what the Regime isn't telling you is that at best only 1/3 of those are from the formerly uninsured population...the vast majority are people who had perfectly fine health insurance plans that got AXED by ObamaCare!

April Fools a day late.  7 Million my Ass.
Even by the left's own numbers at least 2.7 million of them are people who lost plans.  And how many more will be lost when they decide that businesses have to abide by the law next year..  and how many more sign up  but never make the first payment - after all they don't pay their other bills either.

And don't forget this number is brought to you by the same people  who  tell us there is 2% GDP growth, the economy is improving , unemployment is  under 7%,  inflation is 2%, and everything is awesome.

 They mobilized their illegal voting troops and had them fill out forms, and hell they might even start paying premiums for people who don't even know they are signed up. Anything to keep the sham-wow president  looking good and the sheep calm.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on April 02, 2014, 01:04:51 PM
Yeah, and they're also touting some poll from the Washington Post that supposedly shows a plurality are now in favor of Obamacare for the first time ever!  Everything is awesome!

As Rush pointed out, this poll came a mere 4 days after an AP poll showed it had the lowest favorability since its passage.  What a dramatic turnaround over the span of 4 days!  Everything is awesome!

I guess all this good news means that the embattled Dems up for election this November no longer have to try and hide their role in passing Obamacare, doesn't it?  I guess this means they can now proudly run on their record of support for Obamacare, you know, since it's such a popular thing now.  Right?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 02, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
If there is any justice remaining, 4/1/14 will be Obama's "Mission Accomplished" day.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2014, 02:40:04 PM
More "Mission Accopmplished" fallout...

http://freebeacon.com/issues/employers-say-obamacare-will-cost-them-5000-more-per-employee/ (http://freebeacon.com/issues/employers-say-obamacare-will-cost-them-5000-more-per-employee/)

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/first-class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-nevada-obamacare-exchange/ (http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/first-class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-nevada-obamacare-exchange/)

...everything is awesome!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on April 02, 2014, 03:10:02 PM
The hospitals are shedding employees as well.  The hospitals.  Scary thought added on top of the general free-floating anxiety over the whole damn thing.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2014, 07:12:08 AM
Yes, my own outfit grossly over-fantasized how much free care was going to be converted to ObamaCare plans and as a result of their budget being blown on day one of the new year they are asking all concerned pay the price for their hopism...more brilliance in action from kool-aid guzzling morons running most sectors of this industry!  Quite infuriating, really, but not unexpected.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on April 03, 2014, 08:28:27 AM
If there is any justice remaining, 4/1/14 will be Obama's "Mission Accomplished" day.

A poster on American Thinker aptly renamed April Fools day as Obama's Victory Day, or Obama's VD for short.

 ::USA::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2014, 11:21:37 AM
If there is any justice remaining, 4/1/14 will be Obama's "Mission Accomplished" day.

A poster on American Thinker aptly renamed April Fools day as Obama's Victory Day, or Obama's VD for short.

 ::USA::

 ::laughonfloor::

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on April 03, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
gosh, you guys...
Everything Is AWESOME!!! -- The LEGO® Movie -- Tegan and Sara feat. The Lonely Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y#ws)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 04, 2014, 06:46:25 AM
The Anthem of SSRI America.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 04, 2014, 11:28:38 AM
7M on ObamaCare...right...and what the Regime isn't telling you is that at best only 1/3 of those are from the formerly uninsured population...the vast majority are people who had perfectly fine health insurance plans that got AXED by ObamaCare!

April Fools a day late.  7 Million my Ass.
Even by the left's own numbers at least 2.7 million of them are people who lost plans.  And how many more will be lost when they decide that businesses have to abide by the law next year..  and how many more sign up  but never make the first payment - after all they don't pay their other bills either.

And don't forget this number is brought to you by the same people  who  tell us there is 2% GDP growth, the economy is improving , unemployment is  under 7%,  inflation is 2%, and everything is awesome.

 They mobilized their illegal voting troops and had them fill out forms, and hell they might even start paying premiums for people who don't even know they are signed up. Anything to keep the sham-wow president  looking good and the sheep calm.

Proper credit given when proper credit is due!

How do you get from 5 million Obamacare enrollees to 7.1 million Obamacare enrollees in two weeks? You start the applications yourself without their knowledge or permission! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/breaking-hhs-started-obamacare-applications-for-americans-without-their-knowledge-or-permission/)

These Satanic bastards need to be gutted!  Well, you won't get the E-GOP to agree to that idea, but eff them too!   ::pullhair::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 04, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
(http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Obama_Lie-of-the-Year-298x300.jpg)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/ (http://scaredmonkeys.com/)

Aye.  But Amerikan Idle types don't seem to give rats behind!   ::gaah::

(http://i.imgur.com/233rGJ5.jpg)

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231079 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231079)

Amerikan Idle will buy that turd, oh yeah!  They that stoopit!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 08, 2014, 07:07:19 AM
For those who need a visual aid to know what the phrase "If his lips are moving he is lying" means...

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/now-thats-change/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/04/now-thats-change/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on April 08, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
This thing just keeps getting better and better... (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/08/latest-obamacare-surprise-most-wont-be-able-to-buy-health-insurance-until-end/)

Quote
There is yet another ObamaCare surprise waiting for consumers: from now until the next open enrollment at the end of this year, most people will simply not be able to buy any health insurance at all, even outside the exchanges.

"It's all closed down. You cannot buy a policy that is a qualified policy for the purpose of the ACA (the Affordable Care Act) until next year on January 1," says John DiVito, president of Flexbenefit which has 2,500 brokers.

John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas adds, "People are not going to be able to buy individual and family policies, and that's part of ObamaCare. And what makes it so surprising is the whole point of ObamaCare was to encourage people to get insurance, and now the market has been completely closed down for the next seven months."

That means that with few exceptions, tens of millions of people will be locked out of the health insurance market for the rest of this year.

...'cause you have to pass it to find out what's in it and then you have to wait while one dog turd after another ends up on the sole of your shoe 'cause, DumbassCare.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2014, 07:22:33 AM
Emperor Barry will make it happen by decree...as usual...

It's good to be the Emperor...for now...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on April 09, 2014, 12:32:29 PM
Thus ensuring the penalty tax "shared responsibility payment" will be owed.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2014, 01:21:46 PM
Idjiut at work:

-ACA good, people covered dropped from other plans.  Why?  Sub-standard plans.  yeah.
-ACA good, idjiot releative covered now, $400/mo a deal!
-ACA good, plan customized for idjiot relative.  Really?  Not one size fits all?  Some bait/switch in advertising.
-ACA good, just need to jack up fines to $10k, chase people down the streets and rob them, lock 'em up in prison if they don't.  Yeah.

ACA good!

 ::laughonfloor::

Idjiots!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on April 10, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/breaking-kathleen-sebelius-resigns-as-hhs-secretary/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/breaking-kathleen-sebelius-resigns-as-hhs-secretary/)

Quote
... on Friday morning he will nominate Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, to replace her, officials said.

Big deal.  "The Secretary shall determine" still stands, no matter who is Secretary, as long as there is a Secretary, until this POS bill is repealed.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 11, 2014, 06:53:02 AM
Great, trade in a buffalo bagel for a prairie muffin...whoop-di-doo!

Still, no statute of limitations on contempt charges, perp-walk the outgoing clown!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on April 12, 2014, 06:49:10 PM
And who, we ask, is Sylvia Mathews Burwell?

This is who .......

http://weaselzippers.us/182536-new-hhs-secretary-nominee-sylvia-burwell-behind-government-shutdown-fiasco-and-vince-foster-shenanigans/#more-182536 (http://weaselzippers.us/182536-new-hhs-secretary-nominee-sylvia-burwell-behind-government-shutdown-fiasco-and-vince-foster-shenanigans/#more-182536)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Septugenarian on April 12, 2014, 07:07:24 PM
And who, we ask, is Sylvia Mathews Burwell?

This is who .......

http://weaselzippers.us/182536-new-hhs-secretary-nominee-sylvia-burwell-behind-government-shutdown-fiasco-and-vince-foster-shenanigans/#more-182536 (http://weaselzippers.us/182536-new-hhs-secretary-nominee-sylvia-burwell-behind-government-shutdown-fiasco-and-vince-foster-shenanigans/#more-182536)

How convenient that a fellow traveler of the same ilk is put in place.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2014, 07:34:57 AM
Ja, you providers now step forward for zee fingerprinting, now!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html)

I can see waiting times for hip replacements shooting way up...

This is gonna be fun to watch...

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on April 15, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
Ja, you providers now step forward for zee fingerprinting, now!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html)

I can see waiting times for hip replacements shooting way up...

This is gonna be fun to watch...

 ::popcorn::

The waiting time is already up.   One of my mom's friends is waiting until at least the end of May for a hip replacement.  Before Barrycare,  she probably would have had it done 3 weeks ago already.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
Ja, you providers now step forward for zee fingerprinting, now!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-begin-fingerprinting-high-risk-medicare-providers-and-suppliers_786924.html)

I can see waiting times for hip replacements shooting way up...

This is gonna be fun to watch...

 ::popcorn::

The waiting time is already up.   One of my mom's friends is waiting until at least the end of May for a hip replacement.  Before Barrycare,  she probably would have had it done 3 weeks ago already.

It is going to get much...much...worse.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 17, 2014, 11:34:02 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/obamacare-forces-county-to-drop-health-care-for-poor-widows-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/obamacare-forces-county-to-drop-health-care-for-poor-widows-video/)

Yeah, well...probably just a bunch of stupid old AARP idiots who voted for Obama anyway...cause that's what AARP said was best for them!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 22, 2014, 07:20:48 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/dem-rep-on-obamacare-the-worst-is-yet-to-come-its-going-to-hit-the-fan-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/dem-rep-on-obamacare-the-worst-is-yet-to-come-its-going-to-hit-the-fan-video/)

So, how long can Obama issue EO's to break the law and delay implementation, eh?  Past 2014?  Past 2016?  Indefinitely?

Doesn't matter, the Ruling Class/E-GOP/RINO/AINO idiots will bugger themselves in order to bugger us so in the end the Prog's can do whatever they like...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 24, 2014, 07:32:08 AM
Heh, more ...   ::realitycheck:: 

Sen.Shaheen to PO'd caller about ObamaCare - will "check it out"  ;) caller is "misinformed"... ie-caller is a stupid whining idiot.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304518704579519712895140226?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304518704579519712895140226.html (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304518704579519712895140226?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304518704579519712895140226.html)

Senior care under Medicare Advantage to be slashed, Obama trying to delay the pain, not so successful in delaying the news of the pain that is coming with a vengeance...though the MFM will have to throw a lot of poop in the air to divert attention...no doubt AARP has been enlisted to run disinformation campaigns this election cycle to buy them more time...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/23/Senior-Home-Health-Care-Cut-by-ObamaCare (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/23/Senior-Home-Health-Care-Cut-by-ObamaCare)

Marine vet to Kelly - "Obama lied to me".

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/us-marine-corps-vet-president-lied-to-me-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/us-marine-corps-vet-president-lied-to-me-video/)

Umm, uhh....yeah, what did he expect?   ::)

It's what they do...


ETA - And if you like your single doctor provider...well, tough crap, they're going away due to regulatory burden...

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/apr/26/obamacare-deals-blow-to-one-doctor-medicine/ (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/apr/26/obamacare-deals-blow-to-one-doctor-medicine/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 27, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
Define irony...

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/rove-not-happy-with-obamacare-white-flag/ (http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/rove-not-happy-with-obamacare-white-flag/)


...just who does The Butthead think he is fooling here?  He supported all the asshats who decide time and time again each hill isn't worth dying on and helped orchestrate many a Tea Party/Conservative backstabbing of anybody threatening the E-GOP's candidates all in the name of pragmatic retention of power.

What The Butthead is really pissed at is people speaking as they act and letting it be known that the E-GOP never really was for anything other than paying lip-service opposition to progressive policies in order to string Conservatives, Libertarians, the Tea Party and Independents along.  Who is stupid enough to believe the E-GOP ever had any real intention of fighting the progressives in the other party? 

Some things worth keeping?  Yeah, the cats all ran out of the bag and are scratching and biting everyone and he just wants to stuff some of them back in the bag...

What a complete asshole!

This is the final proof that the time of the GOP being a major party is over.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on April 27, 2014, 09:35:46 PM
It will continue the death throws as long as moronic center moderates continue to back RINO's looking to appease big business illegal immigration clemency and the rest of those mrons that can't get past their ears that legalizing 15-30 million new Rat voter spells the end of their lifestyle and the GOP.  ::rockethrow:: ::rockethrow:: ::rockethrow:: ::rockethrow:: ::rockethrow::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 29, 2014, 07:36:07 AM
Eventually, only the very worst will be left to practice medicine, and since the quality at that time will be so piss-poor, even if you live long enough to make it to an appointment, you may have been better off seeing a witch doctor instead.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304279904579518273176775310?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304279904579518273176775310.html (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304279904579518273176775310?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304279904579518273176775310.html)

(Via Drudge if the link doesn't work)

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 30, 2014, 08:00:46 AM
Hilarious, but not unexpected!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/29/CA-Obamacare-to-Target-Recently-Released-Prisoners (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/29/CA-Obamacare-to-Target-Recently-Released-Prisoners)

That will help improve the risk pool and lower costs...er, wait, no it won't!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 06, 2014, 07:17:57 AM
Hey, what happens if you roll one turd into another?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massachusetts-romneycare-health-care-exchange-106362.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massachusetts-romneycare-health-care-exchange-106362.html)

Oh, still just a big turd.

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2014, 11:32:05 AM
Another ObamaCare Bonus...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/shock-video-obamacare-contractor-pays-workers-to-do-nothing-sit-at-computer-press-refresh/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/shock-video-obamacare-contractor-pays-workers-to-do-nothing-sit-at-computer-press-refresh/)

I am shcoked, SHOCKED to find slackers slacking off here!!!

/
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on May 13, 2014, 11:45:23 AM
Under Obamacare, People Must Be Broken of their Preference for Choice (http://reason.com/blog/2014/05/13/under-obamacare-people-must-be-broken-of)

Quote
Merz is basically stating openly what the Obama administration won’t, which is that Obamacare is intentionally designed to narrow consumer choice and plan design within the health insurance market. The Obama administration doesn't want to say this because it is bad politics generally, and also because President Obama specifically and repeatedly promised that, under the law, people would be able to keep their choice of health plans and doctors, not that they would be broken of their preference for medical choice. But the law’s authors and administrators have a pretty good idea of what kind of health insurance they want you to have, and that’s the kind of insurance that you’re going to get.

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
So, Democrats/progressives and their enablers are anti-choice, eh?

Everything really is awesome, ain't it?

I mean for those getting away with this shyt!!!

BITS!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 13, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
So since dh is still unemployed we are paying 100% for our insurance and it stinks. I had to take my kid to a hospital in a suburb a half hour away (with no traffic) for lab tests because that's the only hospital in our plan. Fortunately for emergencies we can still go to our closest hospital (there are 3 within 15 minutes). But it sucks if we ever need a scheduled surgery to have to go somewhere we don't have our doctor.

I had to explain to my daughter why we had to go so far. None of our doctors (all of who are in our plan) are affiliated with this hospital.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2014, 07:03:55 AM
The restrictions in choice over every aspect of healthcare is about to go parabolic...and Stymie can only delay the inevitable pain so long...

Pelosi said they had to pass it to know what's in it, and they are delaying what they put in it so nobody finds out all about it all at once...and all the warning we sounded that were ridiculed out of hand by democrats and their lapdog media are and will continue to come true, but by full implementation it will be too late...

And the feckless Pubbies refusing to repeal or defund this atrocity are now part and parcel of the atrocity...

All will be ultimately held to account.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
OMG!!!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-21/next-obamacare-scandal-taxpayer-funded-bailout-insurers (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-21/next-obamacare-scandal-taxpayer-funded-bailout-insurers)

 ::outrage::

Another huge hill the Pubbies will refuse to mount for fear of imminent death...

Of course they fear death from the Left...silly Pubbies!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 04, 2014, 02:49:15 PM
once again, they lied. 9 months later and AP reports that 2 million of the Obamacare sign-ups have data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for some, a government document shows (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/1-4-obamacare-signups-are-faulty-we-are-sure-obama-never-knew-anything-about-it-unti)

a) No surprise, these people are who we always thought they were.

b) No matter what this will not ever be protrayed by the MFM as any kind of failure of progressive ideology being incompatible with human existence.

c) No matter what mea culpa's arrive on Judgement Day, the MFM, like all progressives, will not be let off the hook for their treachery!   ;)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 16, 2014, 08:29:15 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/thousands-to-be-questioned-on-eligibility-for-health-insurance-subsidies.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/thousands-to-be-questioned-on-eligibility-for-health-insurance-subsidies.html?_r=0)

 

I don't know what is funnier, people's info being effed up (shocka!) or people gonna get chased down by Unca Shuga for repayment of subsidies?!

       

Dumabsses, all of them!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2014, 07:35:20 AM
http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/24/obamacare-exchanges-disappointing/ (http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/24/obamacare-exchanges-disappointing/)

Oops.  Time for more of the "O'Bongo Shuffle"...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 02, 2014, 07:42:21 AM
Another death for ObamaScam...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/woman-class-action-lawsuit-against-xerox-dies (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/woman-class-action-lawsuit-against-xerox-dies)

...more to come...

...think of ObamaCare as the VA scandal on a massive steroid cocktail...

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 09, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/192631-308-memphis-cops-call-in-sick-in-blue-flu-protest/ (http://weaselzippers.us/192631-308-memphis-cops-call-in-sick-in-blue-flu-protest/)

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on July 10, 2014, 12:50:13 AM
Damn, Libertas, you are really carrying the water for this thread. I feel bad for having abandoned it. And that's because there really is a lot of news about how DumbassCare is screwing people over...usually several stories per week.

And it's only a matter of time before the illegals who are flooding in contribute to the collapse of the healthcare system.

I will try and keep up.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 10, 2014, 06:45:15 AM
I swear I don't even have to look hard and it seems like every day there is a new story of people getting effed over by this Obamanation...it is literally an avalanche of misery...which is after all the natural by-product of any progressive thought put into action.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 11, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/192874-boehner-will-sue-obama-over-obamacare-employer-mandate/ (http://weaselzippers.us/192874-boehner-will-sue-obama-over-obamacare-employer-mandate/)

Whatever...

WGAF?!

Only reason this schmuck is doing this is to look like he is doing something...and this is easier albeit less effective than impeachment and repeal!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 16, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
New Yorkers...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=243623 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=243623)

Yeah, that's a shame...

/

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 21, 2014, 08:04:16 AM
Did someone say "Hey, isn't it about time for some more illegal Executive ObamaCare exemptions to be decreed?"?  Well yeah, I guess someone did...just didn't get much play in the MFM circles...if at all...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-20/white-house-quietly-exempts-45-million-people-5-territories-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-20/white-house-quietly-exempts-45-million-people-5-territories-obamacare)

Laws are meaningless, decrees are all that matter...

We best start acting accordingly, eh?

That 'ol phrase "The Devil made me do it" to be revised to "Obama made me do it"...same meaning though...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 22, 2014, 11:18:58 AM
Bwuuhaahaaa!  DC Court knocks subsidies down...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101819065 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101819065)

Though I take gleeful chortling of this starting the unravelling of this abomination with a massive grain of salt...been there seen that misguided glee before, only to have statists win in the end...

But, the continued unneccessary drama and pain of O'BongosCare continues...

ETA - The lawless Obama Junta to ignore the ruling...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/white-house-spokesman-josh-earnest-says-administration-will-ignore-court-ruling-on-obamacare-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/white-house-spokesman-josh-earnest-says-administration-will-ignore-court-ruling-on-obamacare-video/)

...so, rule by dictate still in play?

Awesome.  Time for another banana republic favorite - the military coup!

Welcome to latter day America, chumps!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 22, 2014, 11:53:29 AM
ObamaCare - Worse than cancelling cable or satellite!   ::hysterical::

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on July 22, 2014, 09:28:01 PM
ObamaCare - Worse than cancelling cable or satellite!   ::hysterical::

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453)
Never mind that, I want to cancel Obama!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 23, 2014, 06:51:09 AM
ObamaCare - Worse than cancelling cable or satellite!   ::hysterical::

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=244453)
Never mind that, I want to cancel Obama!

Hey!  Take a number and get in line, pal!   ;D
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 23, 2014, 02:41:58 PM
Oh...hey...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/the-gao-launched-an-obamacare-sting-operation-and-almost-all-fake-insurance-applications-were-approved-20140723 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/the-gao-launched-an-obamacare-sting-operation-and-almost-all-fake-insurance-applications-were-approved-20140723)

If a bunch of bureaucrats at GAO can find this much fraud...just think how much an independent outside party with no horse in the race could find!!!

 ::speechless::

 ::cussing::  insane!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on July 26, 2014, 01:17:55 AM
I don't see any discussion of the Halbig v. Burwell decision at the DC court of appeals on this thread so here goes...

Halbig was a decision (2-1) in favor of the rule of law. It was opposed (later that same day) by the 4 District appeals court (3-0) in King v. Burwell.

Just to be clear: All four judges who ruled against the challengers were appointed by Democrats and the 2 who ruled for the challengers were appointed by Republicans. Something to think about when control of the Senate comes up as a topic.

Okay, getting back to the subject at hand...

1. If the Halbig decision is upheld then it is a victory for the rule of law (words mean things) and a defeat for DumbassCare.

2. If King is upheld then DumbassCare wins and the rule of law is pretty much formally destroyed once and for all by the judicial branch.

I don't know any other way to look at the two possible outcomes.

Although it is true that we have a defacto destruction of the rule of law going on right now via BO's exec orders and refusal to enforce legislation, this would formalize it if King triumphs over Halbig.

Now...on the other hand...if Halbig ultimately wins (and I'm not going into the three dimensional chess game as to how one wins over the other, procedurally speaking), does that mean the end of DumbassCare via an insurance rate death spiral?

There are a lot of people out there that think that it cannot happen...that it's too late to kill the law no matter what...that taxpayers (voters) in states without their own exchanges would, after losing their fed subsidies, demand that their states put an exchange together. And that seems to be the point of the way that the law was written. (I know that this is another tangent to this discussion but I just have to go there so please indulge me for a moment). In the past two days there are at least two separate speeches that have come to light where a principle architect of DumbassCare has been found to have said things which support the central theme of Halbig. That theme is that the law was written this way on purpose (that it wasn't a typo) to get states to start their own exchanges. Today someone at CSPAN dug up a video of Max Baucus claiming (in a Senate hearing no less) the exact same thing back in 2009.

But...IF Halbig does go through, if it's upheld (and if King is defeated) then we are in for a truly bumpy ride. Several million will lose their free money from BO and they might even have to pay it back. That's where the potential for schadenfreude comes in.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 26, 2014, 08:27:01 AM

Okay, getting back to the subject at hand...

1. If the Halbig decision is upheld then it is a victory for the rule of law (words mean things) and a defeat for DumbassCare.

2. If King is upheld then DumbassCare wins and the rule of law is pretty much formally destroyed once and for all by the judicial branch.


The rule of law died a long time ago.  It died when the supreme court decided that growing corn on your own land to feed your own cows is "interstate commerce" - which is where the NEW and IMPROVED commerce clause got its power.  A "penalty" is a "tax" according to Roberts.  A bill whose original house originated text can be  entirely erased and "amended" by the Senate and still  be said to have originated in the House. The sad part is that the left thinks this sort of childish word play is "clever" 

All Leftists are bad faith actors.  You can't make and agreement of compromise with them because to them WORDS DON'T MEAN THINGS if those meaning would conflict with getting what they want. Any agreement you have that becomes a liability to that goal is old, racist, stupid, irrelevant and can be safely disregarded.

 Of course Words are just symbols we use to communicate  - many of which stand for real things in the real word.  And Reality doesn't care if the words are accurate representations or not.  Tinkerbell will no come to life  regardless of how many idiot leftists believe in fairies.  May they suffer greatly as that comes to pass.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on July 26, 2014, 09:40:23 AM
And that's why I also said that we already have a defacto destruction of the rule of law but that this would pretty much formalize it...that is, put us under a defacto monarchy where even the courts recognize that the law means whatever the chief executive (and his duly appointed minions) says they mean. It becomes the formal end of the republic.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2014, 02:53:52 PM
The rule of law is dead, we have the rule of man because people let them get away with it and because there is nobody fighting it.  Obama & the dems ignore law and make up rules on the fly, I suggest we act likewise, to me none them matter anymore.  They want anarchy?  Fine, let's choke them with it!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on July 27, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
And that's why I also said that we already have a defacto destruction of the rule of law but that this would pretty much formalize it...that is, put us under a defacto monarchy where even the courts recognize that the law means whatever the chief executive (and his duly appointed minions) says they mean. It becomes the formal end of the republic.


Isn't it fitting that this will become the case if the courts decide in favor of someone named King?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2014, 12:02:04 PM
Fascist healthcare goon Jon "Hans" Gruber at it again...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/flashback-video-jonathan-gruber-the-architect-of-obamacare-caught-in-another-speak-o/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/flashback-video-jonathan-gruber-the-architect-of-obamacare-caught-in-another-speak-o/)

...these insects cannot remember all the lies they tell, they tell so many...so much so when they speak honestly they have to lie about it later...

We need a Fascist roach motel...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: trapeze on July 28, 2014, 09:54:39 PM
The logical conclusion of the ends justifying the means.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on July 29, 2014, 07:37:35 AM
Fascist healthcare goon Jon "Hans" Gruber at it again...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/flashback-video-jonathan-gruber-the-architect-of-obamacare-caught-in-another-speak-o/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/flashback-video-jonathan-gruber-the-architect-of-obamacare-caught-in-another-speak-o/)

...these insects cannot remember all the lies they tell, they tell so many...so much so when they speak honestly they have to lie about it later...

We need a Fascist roach motel...

Well, now we know one of them, the "architects" of this stinkin' law, because it sure wasn't any of our "legislators" as they didn't know what was in the bill either.

Let that sink in.  They hired this MIT egghead to do the work they can't be bothered to do anymore.

More info. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/business/jonathan-gruber-health-cares-mr-mandate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

Quote
Mr. Gruber has spent decades modeling the intricacies of the health care ecosystem, which involves making predictions about how new laws will play out based on past experience and economic theory. It is his research that convinced the Obama administration that health care reform could not work without requiring everyone to buy insurance.

"Modeling"; because that worked out so well with AGW.

"Economic theory" because Keynes, right?

And More. (http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/24/watch-obamacare-architect-jonathan-grube)

Quote
I honestly don’t remember why I said that. I was speaking off-the-cuff. It was just a mistake. People make mistakes. Congress made a mistake drafting the law and I made a mistake talking about it.

I have to laugh.  The lies.  For their purposes, they screwed up; "Congress" in writing it and he in speaking about it.  They tried to write the law to screw us as bad as they could and they ended up screwing themselves.  And now it is THE law; the court, for now, has upheld it and they want a do-over.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on July 29, 2014, 07:42:12 AM
http://thefederalist.com/2014/07/28/halbig-shows-how-we-legislate-now/ (http://thefederalist.com/2014/07/28/halbig-shows-how-we-legislate-now/)

Quote
So they screamed that the court’s decision was totally ridiculous and implausible—and then up pops a two-year-old video from one of the Affordable Care Act’s architects, Jonathan Gruber, in which he clearly explains that this is exactly what the law says—that denying subsidies on the federal exchanges was a way of pressuring the states to get on board. More recently, Gruber has been telling everyone that this provision was just a typo and was never intended at all. He even claims his 2012 statement was also a mistake, a “speak-o.” Except that he said the same thing on at least one other occasion. So that gives you a good idea of the honesty of ObamaCare’s supporters.

But the big question is: why do they think they can get away with this? Why do they think they can write something into the law, go around for a couple of years explaining that provision to audiences, and then pretend later that it wasn’t there at all and it’s patently ridiculous for anyone to think it ever was?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2014, 07:59:38 AM
More proof that not only does Das Kapital have to burn, so do many so-called institutes of higher learning...and think tanks...

Health care is a fricken ecosystem?   ::facepalm::   ::outrage:: 

Models, theories...

Politicians who don't give a frick and can't be bothered to understand what they vote on...

Yeah, and you get a horsesh*t law nobody asked for to fix a problem that didn't exist to the extent the progs wished it did, but their lust to create the second to last stepping stone to universal single payer government control over your life from birth to death was too great a temptation to pass on...all that control, all that power in prog hands!  The filthy demons couldn't let that pass them by!

And now they get away with illegal dictates and lies...

Yeah, color me fricken shocked!  This is Amerika today, don't like it?  Tough!  STFD & STFU or revolt!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 31, 2014, 07:55:50 AM
Premiums spiking in California... 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/thank-you-obamacare-california-health-insurance-costs-spike-88-2014 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/thank-you-obamacare-california-health-insurance-costs-spike-88-2014)

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2014, 11:51:54 AM
More Californication...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on August 15, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
More Californication...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708)

 ::hysterical::

Best Comment following the article

"See, there are no Death Panels. It’s just one f-cking guy now."
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
More Californication...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=247708)

 ::hysterical::

Best Comment following the article

"See, there are no Death Panels. It’s just one f-cking guy now."

 ::rimshot::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on August 22, 2014, 04:37:25 PM
one...more...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvnNfWWIcAA-2QG.jpg)
[eww]
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 05, 2014, 07:12:52 AM
Hacked again...

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hacker-breached-healthcaregov-insurance-site-2014-09-04-161031834?link=MW_latest_news (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hacker-breached-healthcaregov-insurance-site-2014-09-04-161031834?link=MW_latest_news)

...yet HHS goon says this is the first time...

...yeah, maybe since he joined Team Evil!

 ::hysterical::

Issa issues subpeona!

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/387185/issa-subpoenas-obamacare-official-after-hack-joel-gehrke (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/387185/issa-subpoenas-obamacare-official-after-hack-joel-gehrke)

 ::ohno::

What will Obama do?!

Umm...ignore the sh*t out of it, of course...wait for a court case that will never come...leave the sh*t in Hitlery's lap to worry about...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2014, 11:26:46 AM
Hey look!  A light at the end of the tunnel!

http://weaselzippers.us/199825-cbo-cost-of-obamacare-subsidy-will-increase-8-fold-in-just-10-years/ (http://weaselzippers.us/199825-cbo-cost-of-obamacare-subsidy-will-increase-8-fold-in-just-10-years/)

Hit 'em hard enough and they won't feel a damn thing! 

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 16, 2014, 11:40:22 AM
LOL. ROTFFLMFAAOL!  ::hysterical::

Minnesota's Obamacare exchange is called "MN-SURE". The largest insurer in the MN-SURE exchange is called Preferred One. Preferred One insures 59% of all MN-SURE enrollees. They have such a large share because they offer the lowest rates in the exchange.  ::hysterical::

Wait for it... wait for it...

Preferred One has just declared its intent to dissolve its partnership with MN-SURE in 2015 because the partnership is "not administratively and financially sustainable going forward.”  ::hysterical::

Read the whole thing of beauty, HERE (http://kstp.com/news/stories/s3562806.shtml)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
Heh.  I've been calling them Yah Shuure and MN Schtupp!

Seems the cat has clawed its way out of the bag and isn't going to stop running! 

“Our MNsure individual product membership is only a small percentage of the entire PreferredOne enrollment but is taking a significant amount of our resources to support administratively,”

Bwuuhaahaaaa!  No Shyt?! 

I already know for a fact (being in this retarded industry) that rates for the others are going to really shoot up.  It was expected that PO was going to either have to a) jack up rates or b) exit the market.  They chose Option B and I don't blame them.  And here and across the nation this will not be the last we hear of this.  It is engineered to fail, and fail it will...and the Feds will seize the whole what they tried to seize in part and those who are insurers now won't have a business at all when that happens!

The destruction has only begun!!!

ETA - As for MN-Sure, not sure if the other state-run exchanges or Federal exchanges are the same, I would think they would be to be in compliance with ObamaCare legislation or executive edict...but there is a rate review component to this, so if for the surviving insurers the premium increases are not high enough to justify participation, other insurers could leave the exchange a lot sooner than people think.  I don't know the specific dates but I think all this has to be inplace before open enrollment begins sometime this fall, so pretty soon here we'll know.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on September 29, 2014, 11:05:08 AM

H/t Iowntheworld

California’s narrow Obamacare networks have many Obamacare customers experiencing buyer’s remorse over health care plans that are turning out to include far fewer doctors than they were led to believe, reports the Los Angeles Times.

“Where was the state in protecting people from these false promises?” California Obamacare customer Heidi Shurtleff, 53, told the Times. “I’m not getting what I paid for.”

President Barack Obama infamously promised Americans, “If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor.”

But so-called “narrow networks” are a key component of Obamacare designed to limit doctor choice in an effort to drive down costs. A Times analysis found that insurers in California, which has the nation’s largest number of Obamacare customers, have no intention of expanding the number of doctors available to plan holders.

Read more at http://iowntheworld.com/blog/#K98MbB6dilD9Zkew.99 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/#K98MbB6dilD9Zkew.99)
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/09/28/LA-Times-Doctor-Shortages-Buyer-s-Remorse-Plague-California-Obamacare (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/09/28/LA-Times-Doctor-Shortages-Buyer-s-Remorse-Plague-California-Obamacare)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 29, 2014, 11:26:56 AM
 ::smallestviolin::

If you like getting robbed, cornholed and lied to...

...stay tuned for the next development coming out of Team Obama & Co!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on September 29, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
See, this is why we need Single Payer!  The evil Republicans wouldn't let Dear Leader do it all at once, and this just proves that greedy capitalist insurance companies are the problem.  We need to make it an entirely government run institution so that everyone can enjoy the efficient and high quality service now delivered by the VA.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on September 29, 2014, 11:43:58 AM
See, this is why we need Single Payer!  The evil Republicans wouldn't let Dear Leader do it all at once, and this just proves that greedy capitalist insurance companies are the problem.  We need to make it an entirely government run institution so that everyone can enjoy the efficient and high quality service now delivered by the VA.

Yeah, well, even the Swiss are smart enough to vote "nay" on that b.s.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on September 29, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
See, this is why we need Single Payer Slayer!  The evil Republicans wouldn't let Dear Leader do it all at once, and this just proves that greedy capitalist insurance companies are the problem.  We need to make it an entirely government run institution so that everyone can enjoy the efficient and high quality service now delivered by the VA.

Fixed it! ::dueling::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 29, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
They'll get there eventually no matter the cost...

And the U.S. has been so watered down with everyone else's cast outs that the word "smart" really connot be applied here without a laugh track...

So far the joke is on us...tables turn, baby...tables turn...   ;)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 07:20:41 AM
Without action this poll showing 60% want ObamaCare repealed doesn't amount to a bucket of dung...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/60-percent-voters-want-obamacare-be-repealed_808409.html# (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/60-percent-voters-want-obamacare-be-repealed_808409.html#)!

How many times have we seen stuff like this only to see so-called friends abandon us and not do a damn thing?

I'm an Accountant and even I lost track of that number!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2014, 11:53:47 AM
Hmmm...

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/judge-irs-obamacare-rule-arbitrary-capricious-and-abuse-discretion (http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/judge-irs-obamacare-rule-arbitrary-capricious-and-abuse-discretion)

Anybody else see coverage of this?  Anything being done about it?  Subsidies being rescinded, Congress acting, any of that???

Time for armed angry mobs to march on DC and force compliance with the law by everybody in that cesspool yet?!?!?!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
Reality is the only thing that will ever repeal ObamaCare.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on October 03, 2014, 05:27:18 PM
Hmmm...

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/judge-irs-obamacare-rule-arbitrary-capricious-and-abuse-discretion (http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/judge-irs-obamacare-rule-arbitrary-capricious-and-abuse-discretion)

Anybody else see coverage of this?  Anything being done about it?  Subsidies being rescinded, Congress acting, any of that???

Time for armed angry mobs to march on DC and force compliance with the law by everybody in that cesspool yet?!?!?!
Yeah, sure that will happen  ::facepalm::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on October 03, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
Reality is the only thing that will ever repeal ObamaCare.

Faid (is that even a word?)  to say it.   But your right.    The courts will never take down the whole thing.  Their nibbling at it will only make it worse to boot.    Even if somehow Congress repeals it (low to none),  the Democrat or RINO in the White House will veto it, and congress will never have the will or majority to override it.

It will distort this nation in ways we can (and can't image).    Health care is necessary (at least at some point) for everyone.   As our healthcare system has been holding up the socialized health systems of the rest of the "developed" world,  the collapse of those systems will speed up.   They are starting up a s**t storm liberals didn't plan for and don't seem to care that it will. 

Imagine medical "tourism"  at a huge scale.   No,  people will stop coming here,  we will be going other places.  Places will become havens for real healthcare.    That is if you can even get there.   You may be too sick or more likely too poor. Because they won't be cheap.   We may end up propping up regimes like Cuba,  as it already has a cash only healthcare system for tourists. 

Imagine black market healthcare.    Yes,  there will be illegal medical services someday,  like there are illegal toilets and lightbulbs today.   Single payer will make all private medicine illegal.   So instead of a modern hospital,  we will be going to some back alley.


That's just the two I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on October 06, 2014, 07:20:11 AM
4 years and 9 months until I can tap the retirement account and bug out.

Already pricing health insurance for the expat, tailoring it to my immediate needs.  About $110 per person, per month, for a max exposure per year of $1,500 per person.

I could afford that at 55.  I couldn't afford a max exposure of $12,700 + higher premiums.  Many more will start bugging out, like I plan to.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
The Obama-Effect (cycnical, evil, intentional destruction to help pave the way toward government single-payer statist Valahalla) continues unabated...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/walmart-ends-healthcare-benefits-workers-under-30-hours (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/walmart-ends-healthcare-benefits-workers-under-30-hours)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2014, 07:32:15 AM
This is priceless...

It screams "Make me into an Anti-Obama Ad, please!"!

Prez Obola - “You cannot get it through casual contact like sitting next to someone one a bus. You cannot get it from another person until they start showing symptoms of the disease, like fever.”

CDC - The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), however, advises humanitarian aid workers from the United States who travel to countries currently experiencing Ebola outbreaks to “avoid public transportation” if they develop a fever or experience other Ebola-like symptoms while on their trip.
 
Listed among their online recommendations for travelers journeying to Liberia, Guinea, Nigeria or Sierra Leone, the CDC advises travelers who begin to exhibit possible Ebola symptoms and choose to visit a doctor to “Limit your contact with other people when you travel to the doctor; avoid public transportation.”

http://weaselzippers.us/202109-obama-you-cannot-get-ebola-sitting-next-to-someone-on-a-bus-cdc-actually-yes-you-can/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202109-obama-you-cannot-get-ebola-sitting-next-to-someone-on-a-bus-cdc-actually-yes-you-can/)

I'm sure ObolaCare will keep us all safe...

/

Oh, another shocka!  Obola to defer massive ObolaCare rate hikes until after the election of course...

http://weaselzippers.us/202091-obama-to-hide-obamacare-rates-till-after-election-day/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202091-obama-to-hide-obamacare-rates-till-after-election-day/)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
More awesome news!

CBO projects ObolaCare will raise deficits $131B (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-projections-indicate-obamacare-will-raise-deficits-131-billion_816288.html#!), which of course means it will be at least double if not trebble or more!!!

Amurekah, fook yah!

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
You were told you could keep uyour doctor, the insurance scam made that one of its many lies...now...doctors are saying they won't take you...

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/over-214000-doctors-opt-out-obamacare-exchanges (http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/over-214000-doctors-opt-out-obamacare-exchanges)

...and I don't blame them. 

All we see is high-risk people opting for low-premium high deductible ObolaCare plans and then when they get sick and hit the ER, instead of having an insured patient we have a deadbeat who skipped on the deductible and left us with a write off!

What a fricken deal!

All part of design...built-in failure...to ensure single-payer government run cradle-to-grave (and beyond) control!!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on October 29, 2014, 12:37:59 PM
You were told you could keep uyour doctor, the insurance scam made that one of its many lies...now...doctors are saying they won't take you...

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/over-214000-doctors-opt-out-obamacare-exchanges (http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/over-214000-doctors-opt-out-obamacare-exchanges)

...and I don't blame them. 

All we see is high-risk people opting for low-premium high deductible ObolaCare plans and then when they get sick and hit the ER, instead of having an insured patient we have a deadbeat who skipped on the deductible and left us with a write off!

What a fricken deal!

All part of design...built-in failure...to ensure single-payer government run cradle-to-grave (and beyond) control!!!!
Well, it wasn't as if we didn't warn the stupid bastards pro and con, doctor and patient alike but all we got was we be racist, well f**k any of them that wouldn't stand up to this "proposed tyranny" and I hope they have fun at their bankruptcy auctions for their medical equipment. ::pullhair::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2014, 07:11:20 AM
ObamaCare architect says calling American voters "stupid" was inappropriate...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-11/obamacare-architect-apologizes-calling-americans-stupid (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-11/obamacare-architect-apologizes-calling-americans-stupid)

...yes, but that is not the same as saying it was wrong or he did not mean it...

...I happen to think he spoke honestly...he shouldn't be beat up for being honest...they all should be beat up for perpetrating this fraud!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2014, 11:46:26 AM
This Gruber stuff is going viral...

More video evidence of Gruber calling American's "stupid" and needing to be led forcefully by the nose (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/gruber-believes-americans-are-stupid-more-videos-surfacing/), no "out of context there, eh?

Same as Slow Joe "Plugs" Biden calling middle class people "not sophisticated" (ie-"stupid") (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/nice-biden-bashes-middle-class-it-means-youre-not-sophisticated-video/), he goes on to say "that's not meant as a complement"!

Same thing, this is what Progressives think, especially those in leadership!!!  And they used this as a strategy to pass ObamaCare and get the Presstitutes on board bashing those of us you CALLED THEM FOR BEING THE LIARS THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE!!!

Now, Prez Skittles comes out and slams the GOP for lying and doubles down on the ObamaCare lies, like "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor", the "premiums", the "penalty, er tax", etc (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/wow-white-house-blames-gop-after-videos-reveal-obama-admin-lied-to-public-about-obamacare-video/)...this is your President, continuing to lie and accusing others of lying when they tell the truth...this is the petulant megalomaniacal man-child in his natural unbalanced state, look closely you stupid bastards that voted for this trash, this is what YOU inflicted upon the nation!!!

Even that paragon of inside-the-beltway E-GOP punditry Charles Krauthammer (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/krauthammer-grubers-taped-comments-proves-progressives-lied-about-everything-video/) says "they lied about everything" and did it intentionally as part of their arrogant nature to impose their unrecognized genius on the stupid masses.

Obama & the Dem's should all be pelted with fresh feces at every opportunity, they are sh*t...it would just be returning their essence back to them!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2014, 07:32:17 AM
Grubby Grubber has made a sh*tload off of pimping lies for Progs to get ObamaCare shoved down American throats!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/editorial-jonathan-grubers-payday/# (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/editorial-jonathan-grubers-payday/#)!

And since 2010 43 rural hospitals have closed (http://www.usatoday.com/longform/news/nation/2014/11/12/rural-hospital-closings-federal-reimbursement-medicaid-aca/18532471/), not all directly due to ObamaCare, but due to lower government-driven reimbursement rates and bureaucratic mandates (like meaningful use) they cannot possible hope to implement!  And ObamaCare is only expediting their demise!

And in 2015 more crap hits!

Via FoxNews:

Here are three crucial changes that the president clearly didn’t want you to know about:
 
1. HUGE DEFICITS AND NEW TAXES. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the latest projections for the net cost of ObamaCare over the next ten years are just over $1.4 trillion. Whereas President Obama promised in 2009 that it would cost less than $1 trillion over ten years. In order to partially pay for this, ObamaCare has added more than 20 new taxes totaling over $500 billion.

2. BUREAUCRACY. Speaking of Orwellian politics, ObamaCare includes 159 new boards and agencies to restrict and govern your health care choices.
 
3. STILL MORE BUREAUCRACY. Dysfunctional state exchanges with high deductible policies, narrow doctor networks, including federally-run exchanges in 36 states which may not be allowable under the law (SCOTUS currently considering this case).

Here are three new things coming up in 2015 that you aren’t going to like:
 
1. PENALTIES WILL RISE – INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. In 2014, people are facing a penalty of $95 per person or 1% of income.

In 2015, the penalty will more than triple to $325 per person or 2% of income, whichever is higher.

If an American failed to get coverage this year, the penalty will be taken out of their tax refund in early 2015.
 
2. SERIOUS RATE HIKES FOR CHEAPER OBAMACARE PLANS. According to Investor’s Business Daily, the lowest cost bronze plan will increase an average of 7 % in many cases, the lowest cost silver plan by 9%, and the lowest priced catastrophic policy will climb 18 percent on average. Double digit rate hikes are anticipated in several southern and Midwestern states including Kansas, Iowa, Louisiana, North and South Carolina, Tennessee, Iowa, and Virginia. 

Subsidies will continue to be a huge part of the program. In 2014, subsidies provided ¾ of the premiums for the federally-run exchanges. 
 
3. EMPLOYER MANDATE WILL TAKE EFFECT. After being delayed for a year, large businesses (100 or more employees in 2015, 50 or more in 2016) will be required to offer affordable (and subsidized) health plans to at least 70 percent of their full time employees or face a $2,000-$3,000 penalty per employee.

This mandate will lead to fewer full time employees being hired.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/11/13/3-things-white-house-doesnt-want-to-know-about-obamacare-plus-3-things-coming/ (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/11/13/3-things-white-house-doesnt-want-to-know-about-obamacare-plus-3-things-coming/)

Full Retard...is just warming up!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2014, 11:04:12 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_CARE_DECEPTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-11-14-16-20-31 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_CARE_DECEPTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-11-14-16-20-31)

J-Mac...

 ::facepalm::

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 17, 2014, 06:36:20 AM
Heh, this is once more karma biting down hard on libiot butts!

Gallup says ObamaCare support hits a new low!   ::hysterical::

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/poll-obamacare-approval-112948.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/poll-obamacare-approval-112948.html)

Gallup!  I wonder how many times they conducted this thing to even get close to that high a number they could fudge up?!?!?!

 ::laughonfloor::

Y'all libiots wanted to open this can in the worst way by hook and crook...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/crapola_zps6b1662ef.jpg)

...and now y'all act like it's no big deal when the stink hits peoples noses!  Ungrateful peons, they did this for you because you're too stupid to think properly for yourselves, so stop your bitching!

Yeah, sucks when it becomes personal, your turn will come soon...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/pelosi-obamacare.jpg)

Everybody scream it now, everybody's leanrin' how...lets do the "Repeal!"!

"Repeal!"  "Repeal!"  "Repeal!" 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
An Inconvenient Comparison...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-17/grubergate-senator-obama-vs-president-obama (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-17/grubergate-senator-obama-vs-president-obama)

...if his lips are moving...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on November 18, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
I recognize the name Gruber from even before this latest controversy.  I now seem to recall hearing it back when people on our side were pointing out that Romney would be a poor choice for 2012, because the template for the individual mandate went back to RomneyCare and his chief consultant Gruber.

Gruber.  Makes me think of the smarmy bad guy from Die Hard.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
Hans.

Hopefully the end is the same...and sweeps more along with him...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 19, 2014, 08:27:43 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/grubergate-idiots-such-american-voters-all-you-need-know-2-minutes (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/grubergate-idiots-such-american-voters-all-you-need-know-2-minutes)

Obama was just informed that he was misinformed about not knowing yesterday he knew and was in fact a close pal of Herr Gruber...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 19, 2014, 08:44:13 PM
It's no longer "think of a lie but which lie will I tell"....BHO
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 26, 2014, 07:03:19 AM
It's no longer "think of a lie but which lie will I tell"....BHO

Here's a whopper...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/Obama-Samaritan_zps8b20903c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 26, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
Oops!

http://fusion.net/story/30263/chuck-schumer-obamacare-comments-aca/ (http://fusion.net/story/30263/chuck-schumer-obamacare-comments-aca/)

Losing that Chairmanship really hit 'ol Chuckie in groin, eh? 

Yeah, that's a damned shame.

/

DemonRats pissing on each other can be damned hilarious though.

And no, we are not done tormenting any of y'all yet, so...wait till we get our turn!   ;)   ::evilbat::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: John Florida on November 26, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
  f**k Chuck.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 27, 2014, 08:52:40 AM
Via Facebook

I recently had to set my cousin straight after a pro Obamacare comment she made. She's been sheltered beyond any preconception that I had. I once thought her only child was indoctrinated at the college level but alas I was wrong, it came from her mother.

Diana wrote: "It's not just a local problem, it's pervasive. If Obama is part of the problem, so say we all. I should hope that his name would prominent in the history books. You guys don't have to answer this, but I'm gonna take a wild guess that in some small way, the health care initiative has helped you. Either to be able to get insurance with a pre-existing condition and/or be able to get health care insurance as an individual, which has never happened before. NOT a perfect plan, needs some tweeting. Just saying...."

I asked immediately as her if she was on drugs and trotted down the road of socialism and the skyrocketing of rates and deductibles on regarding medical insurance. A great looking woman in her fifties, sheltered most of her life from the anguish and evil in the world she married to a great veterinarian with successful practice meaning she again hasn't a clue as to finances. I'm certain she never wrote a check for any of the things the rest of us had to contend with thus her ignorance.

What I got in return was not debate but silence...silence in terms of de-friended. No big deal, I hadn't heard from her for thirty-some odd years up until last year. 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 27, 2014, 09:37:28 AM
So she chose running away over a tantrum, typical libiot, always taking the easiest of the easy ways out.  Wait till the SHTF, such clueless moonbats will be stampeded into mush...maybe her last thought will be about how awesome ObolaCare is...not that it matters...thinking and libiots, heh, I made another joke!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 27, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
warpmine - I bet we all could share a similar anecdote. It's an oddity of the "social media" age where casual communications are taking on an ever-increasingly impersonal edge.

In the past I had several friendships with people that had leftist politics. We got along because we stuck to the interests we had in common and didn't shove our politics in each others faces. Or maybe I was just wishfully unaware. With the advent of social media, where one could effortlessly profess their kinship and affinities through the "Like" button, my eyes were opened to the growing insanity around me.

"Bush lied - people died" - Seriously Walt, you "liked" that? We've known each other for a lot of years. And we both know that sappy slogans like that are opiates for morons. C'mon man! How about a serious discussion of the issues?

And that would be the last I would hear from Walt.

In this very same pattern I had managed to divest myself of all of my leftist acquaintances by the time Øbongo came around.

Now the thing is 2nd hand politics.

Here's how that works. You read an article on a website and just have to express your opinion in the comment section. The only avenue available is powered by Farcebook. So you post your thoughts anyway. The next thing you know you're getting flak from someone you don't even know because they are friends of a friend on FB. Do you risk pissing off a friend by telling his buddy to sod off? (The answer fro me appears to be Yes! I'll be damned if I will allow myself to be stifled by political correctness at my age!)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 27, 2014, 11:02:59 AM
Soup: I definitely agree with your take regarding political expression...damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead take. I care not that anyone that expresses glee over the little steps our country takes upon the road to serfdom er socialism because it's very similar to evangelicalism where we are expected to use every weapon we can in order to lead them to the light.

My cousin was unable to cope with a simple hypothesis of her head clouded with drugs or perhaps buried up her rear/sand. I may not be the leader Moses had been but damn if I'm not going to try anyway.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 29, 2014, 12:30:42 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-ceos-threaten-pull-tacit-obamacare-support-120556143--sector.html

Now CEOs pay attention?

Pah!

End it don't mend it...

Idiots never learn...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 29, 2014, 12:41:14 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-ceos-threaten-pull-tacit-obamacare-support-120556143--sector.html

Now CEOs pay attention?

Pah!

End it don't mend it...

Idiots never learn...
No shortage of ceo's that are in fact traitors against the free market. Assholes such as these should be stripped of their wealth, publicly flogged and sent on their way to live abroad never to return. Punish their entire family for their transgression to, kick them out never to allowed back in..
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 30, 2014, 10:42:18 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-ceos-threaten-pull-tacit-obamacare-support-120556143--sector.html

Now CEOs pay attention?

Pah!

End it don't mend it...

Idiots never learn...
No shortage of ceo's that are in fact traitors against the free market. Assholes such as these should be stripped of their wealth, publicly flogged and sent on their way to live abroad never to return. Punish their entire family for their transgression to, kick them out never to allowed back in..

Crony capitalists, kool-aid guzzling clowns, two-faced progressive neerdowells....yeah, they all deserve to be greased and lit on fire.  No doubt they think with the wealth they've been shearing off the flock will afford them the opportunity to run and hide when the crap hits the fan...but that running and hiding can only last so long and enough people with a good memory will survive and if these jackholes try to surface and resume their old antics it will be justice delayed not justice denied!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on November 30, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-ceos-threaten-pull-tacit-obamacare-support-120556143--sector.html

Now CEOs pay attention?

Pah!

End it don't mend it...

Idiots never learn...
No shortage of ceo's that are in fact traitors against the free market. Assholes such as these should be stripped of their wealth, publicly flogged and sent on their way to live abroad never to return. Punish their entire family for their transgression to, kick them out never to allowed back in..

Crony capitalists, kool-aid guzzling clowns, two-faced progressive neerdowells....yeah, they all deserve to be greased and lit on fire.  No doubt they think with the wealth they've been shearing off the flock will afford them the opportunity to run and hide when the crap hits the fan...but that running and hiding can only last so long and enough people with a good memory will survive and if these jackholes try to surface and resume their old antics it will be justice delayed not justice denied!
They should have learned that lesson of the French Revolution in that nobody was safe as long as it was in motion. Think it couldn't happen here do they. It only takes anger and determination to set it in motion and then look out, nobody is safe. Personally, living in this hell can't be worse than dying before my time of natural causes. ::laserkill::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 30, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-ceos-threaten-pull-tacit-obamacare-support-120556143--sector.html

Now CEOs pay attention?

Pah!

End it don't mend it...

Idiots never learn...
No shortage of ceo's that are in fact traitors against the free market. Assholes such as these should be stripped of their wealth, publicly flogged and sent on their way to live abroad never to return. Punish their entire family for their transgression to, kick them out never to allowed back in..

Crony capitalists, kool-aid guzzling clowns, two-faced progressive neerdowells....yeah, they all deserve to be greased and lit on fire.  No doubt they think with the wealth they've been shearing off the flock will afford them the opportunity to run and hide when the crap hits the fan...but that running and hiding can only last so long and enough people with a good memory will survive and if these jackholes try to surface and resume their old antics it will be justice delayed not justice denied!
They should have learned that lesson of the French Revolution in that nobody was safe as long as it was in motion. Think it couldn't happen here do they. It only takes anger and determination to set it in motion and then look out, nobody is safe. Personally, living in this hell can't be worse than dying before my time of natural causes. ::laserkill::

Yup, all it takes is one pissed off person with a memory and weapon...any weapon.

And yeah, I am not getting any younger, so, you know what they say about pissing off old men...don't play with fire won't get doused in gas and get burned!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 08, 2014, 07:30:48 AM
O'BongoCare fallout continues...ad we've yet to see the worst of the provisions kick in because Mr EO keeps issuing illegal decrees and the wimps in Congress let him get away with it...

And more trends will make things worse, like a fall off of primary care docs (http://news.yahoo.com/newly-insured-struggle-primary-physicians-155516875.html), but hey, y'all have to buy insurance or get fined...er, Roberts' tax.

And don't you worry, Congress has some tough words in store for O'BongoCare architect Herr Gruber (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/congressional-republicans-grill-obamacare-consultant-hearing-140542532.html), so yeah...exciting, huh?

And I bet they really flex their muscles sincce half of the Senate stooges who voted for this abomination are now unemployed (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2555721#!), but I suspect most of that muscle-flexing will be in the way of clenched buttocks in fending off those pesky conservatives who think y'all better play harder with the Dem's and Obama.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on December 08, 2014, 10:56:07 AM
I am beginning to wonder if a parliamentary system wouldn't have been a better choice.  Convert from a presidency to a prime ministry, the PM is a member of the legislature, and required to regularly sit his ass in front the legislature for grilling. Can you imagine Obongo sitting for a parliamentary Question Time like they have in the Westminster system?  That thin skin and puerile, vindictive demeanor would be on display big time, because his divinity is not to be questioned by mere mortals.

The presidency has become too much like an elected dictatorship anymore. I had a lot of qualms about it with Republican presidents. It's even worse now that we have a media actively participating in it.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 08, 2014, 11:26:43 AM
Mandatory term limits would be nice too...and if they refuse to leave, their Lifelock can flash red and they can be gagged and bagged and sent to the Carrousel!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on December 08, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
I always appreciate a good Logan's Run reference.  Mmmm....Jessica 6  ::pimp::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 08, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
 :D
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on December 08, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
I always appreciate a good Logan's Run reference.  Mmmm....Jessica 6  ::pimp::
Me to ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 09, 2014, 07:02:32 AM
Yeah, the t-shirt idea is a hoot, but it would be funnier if the Senators also wore them.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/8/jonathan-gruber-to-face-hostile-house-panel-tea-pa/# (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/8/jonathan-gruber-to-face-hostile-house-panel-tea-pa/#)!

You want to really impress us?  Repeal the sumbitch!!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2015, 07:57:46 AM
It has been a while since we had some really good Schadenfreude, and this batch really is quite juicy!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/obamacare-architects-harvard-furious-after-learning-they-are-not-exempt-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/obamacare-architects-harvard-furious-after-learning-they-are-not-exempt-obamacare)

Duh Wun's alma mater all torked up over getting bit by the beast they championed (so they thought) for others!

Bwuuuhaaahaaa! 

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/LOL/ha-ha.jpg)

Choke on it, you elitist Prog swine!!!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: John Florida on January 07, 2015, 07:00:40 PM
  The brain trust can't read it either!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 08, 2015, 06:49:04 AM
And their premiums are still dirt cheap compared to everyone else...these elitists schmucks thought they were going to get writ a pass...poor babies!  Makes one want to knock their teeth out and laugh.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: John Florida on January 08, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
And their premiums are still dirt cheap compared to everyone else...these elitists schmucks thought they were going to get writ a pass...poor babies!  Makes one want to knock their teeth out and laugh.

 According to what I saw on FOX they pay 9% of the cost of health ins.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: richb on January 09, 2015, 12:26:04 AM
And their premiums are still dirt cheap compared to everyone else...these elitists schmucks thought they were going to get writ a pass...poor babies!  Makes one want to knock their teeth out and laugh.

 According to what I saw on FOX they pay 9% of the cost of health ins.

That's alot less then most people. 
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2015, 06:37:10 AM
And their premiums are still dirt cheap compared to everyone else...these elitists schmucks thought they were going to get writ a pass...poor babies!  Makes one want to knock their teeth out and laugh.

 According to what I saw on FOX they pay 9% of the cost of health ins.

That's alot less then most people.

A LOT less!

I hope I am present for many head-poppings when reality really starts smacking these jackasses around!   ::praying::   ::popcorn::   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on January 26, 2015, 08:13:46 AM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find the government sharing data on people with its cronies (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-25/obamacare-website-funneling-private-consumer-data-private-companies)!

Wait, I meant "not" shocked.

Wonder how those government-loving libiots are reacting?  Wait, can the brain-dead react?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2015, 07:32:43 AM
The not surprising angst of DemonRats fearing their constituents will raise Hell if the IRS comes after them on ObamaCare...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/02/16/democrats_seek_relief_from_obamacare_penalties_125617.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/02/16/democrats_seek_relief_from_obamacare_penalties_125617.html)

...any legislation proposed by DemonRats should be ignored, any attempt by Czar Obama to continue rewriting on the fly fought and resisted...

Alas the former will be way easier than the latter, since the latter they've allowed to happen time and time again...

God, I truly hate all these people!  Tyrants, cowards...

So sick and tired of them...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on February 16, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
The not surprising angst of DemonRats fearing their constituents will raise Hell if the IRS comes after them on ObamaCare...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/02/16/democrats_seek_relief_from_obamacare_penalties_125617.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/02/16/democrats_seek_relief_from_obamacare_penalties_125617.html)

...any legislation proposed by DemonRats should be ignored, any attempt by Czar Obama to continue rewriting on the fly fought and resisted...

Alas the former will be way easier than the latter, since the latter they've allowed to happen time and time again...

God, I truly hate all these people!  Tyrants, cowards...

So sick and tired of them...
If the cowardly GOP would have prevented or raised a stink about the delaying of Odisastercare then these asshats would have known the evil in the law much sooner and would have thrown the halfrican out on his ears in '12. This is a dish best served cold and I demand the GOP block every attempt short of repeal to change any aspect of it. Let them all enjoy their cold dish with the bitter waters they've giving to us.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2015, 11:52:56 AM
Jerry Brown's California having issues...

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/13/covered-california-1095-a-tax-forms-errors-missing-forms-health-insurance/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/13/covered-california-1095-a-tax-forms-errors-missing-forms-health-insurance/)

 ::smallestviolin::

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on February 18, 2015, 11:29:27 AM
(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-17-at-3.58.57-PM.png)

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 18, 2015, 11:32:24 AM
Yeah, that sucks!

Isn't there video of this hissy-fit?   ::laughonfloor::

Oh, hey...this is good too...just Google "MNSure Sucks" and see 5,700 results!

http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=MNSure+sucks (http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=MNSure+sucks)

And hearing that mushy-mouthed moron Minnestupids reelected as Governor stammer about how effed up this is without either admitting personal failure or slamming Duh Wun and his fellow travellers who foisted this sh*t upon everyone just makes one want to decorate streetlights!!!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2015, 11:59:07 AM
Get a load of this wreckless BS!

http://weaselzippers.us/215167-think-progress-kicks-the-fear-mongering-into-hyperdrive-10000-people-will-die-if-supreme-court-rules-against-obamacare/ (http://weaselzippers.us/215167-think-progress-kicks-the-fear-mongering-into-hyperdrive-10000-people-will-die-if-supreme-court-rules-against-obamacare/)

 ::hysterical::

1,000 times more than that will die if ObamaCare is left in place, guaranteed!

 ;)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2015, 11:28:05 AM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/roberts-nearly-silent-as-partisan-sparks-fly-in-obamacare-case-20150304 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/roberts-nearly-silent-as-partisan-sparks-fly-in-obamacare-case-20150304)

WGAFF?

Anybody pinning hopes on these robed jackals is a loon!  Unless the libiots all croak and the Senate refuses to seat any replacements until a sane person is in the White House...

That is way too many "if's" already...

 ::unknowncomic::

ETA - FWIW, nice charts of who has what...  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-04/there%E2%80%99s-going-be-chaos-what-worst-case-outcome-todays-supreme-court-obamacare-hearin (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-04/there%E2%80%99s-going-be-chaos-what-worst-case-outcome-todays-supreme-court-obamacare-hearin)

Even ZH parroting stupid over-hyped headline BS...   ::facepalm::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on March 12, 2015, 03:30:51 PM
 ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair:: ::pullhair::

The wife is now paying an estimated 77% over what she paid for the same drug just tree months ago. So how much are we saving now thanks to Onegrocare? Anyone? Anyone at all....Bueller?

I'm really going to enjoy, yes enjoy the killing of Libtards when that day comes forth.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2015, 07:28:00 AM
Documenting the high cost of stupid...

http://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/its-tax-plicated-complexity-rising-with-obamacare-burden (http://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/its-tax-plicated-complexity-rising-with-obamacare-burden)

...this will veer upwards some more, the Diktator keeps wring reams and reams of more regs, more bureaucratic burden means even more billions wasted on bullsh*t by a people already streched thin!  Today is Tax Day, and I am already hearing the horror stories from banks of people having to drain savings accounts to pay their tax bill.

How much more can these people take?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 17, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/ (http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/)

Well, duh!  Of course it is extortion!  All Democrats are Progressives and scratch a Progressive and you will always find a fascist eager to make people do, think and say as they command!

Once again, take sh*t sitting or get up and fight the bastards, what's it gonna be?

If it were me I would order all Federal personnel in Florida out of the state, and use troopers and state national guard to effect it, send them back to DC to piss and moan to their masters!!!

If bullets fly, let the Fedcoats fire the first volley...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: John Florida on April 17, 2015, 07:52:15 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/ (http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/)

Well, duh!  Of course it is extortion!  All Democrats are Progressives and scratch a Progressive and you will always find a fascist eager to make people do, think and say as they command!

Once again, take sh*t sitting or get up and fight the bastards, what's it gonna be?

If it were me I would order all Federal personnel in Florida out of the state, and use troopers and state national guard to effect it, send them back to DC to piss and moan to their masters!!!

If bullets fly, let the Fedcoats fire the first volley...

 Florida Gov.is having Pam Bondi file suit.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2015, 07:07:52 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/ (http://weaselzippers.us/221011-obama-regime-threatens-to-cut-healthcare-for-low-income-families-to-force-florida-into-obamacare/)

Well, duh!  Of course it is extortion!  All Democrats are Progressives and scratch a Progressive and you will always find a fascist eager to make people do, think and say as they command!

Once again, take sh*t sitting or get up and fight the bastards, what's it gonna be?

If it were me I would order all Federal personnel in Florida out of the state, and use troopers and state national guard to effect it, send them back to DC to piss and moan to their masters!!!

If bullets fly, let the Fedcoats fire the first volley...

 Florida Gov.is having Pam Bondi file suit.

Should be followed up with expulsions!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
Oh great...more Momma's of Dindu Nuffin's telling others how to access the shearing gate...

http://weaselzippers.us/221238-hhs-announces-an-additional-201-million-to-pay-for-obamacare-navigators/ (http://weaselzippers.us/221238-hhs-announces-an-additional-201-million-to-pay-for-obamacare-navigators/)

Who authorized this expenditure?  Oh wait, who am I asking, Congresscowards?   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 21, 2015, 11:37:50 AM
A sign of things to come...for all providers...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/04/systemic-breakdown-government-healthcare-forces-hospital-closure/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/04/systemic-breakdown-government-healthcare-forces-hospital-closure/)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
We need to archive these names and remember them well...if not for them perhaps the atrocity known as ObamaCare could have begun to have been rolled back...as it is, these nefarious bastards have earned the condemnation of humanity:

Republican Senators Rand Paul, Mike Enzi, James Risch, Kelly Ayotte, and Deb Fischer...the latter four going Brutus on David Vitter.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418055/how-five-republicans-let-congress-keep-its-fraudulent-obamacare-subsidies-brendan# (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418055/how-five-republicans-let-congress-keep-its-fraudulent-obamacare-subsidies-brendan#)!

R.I.H. traitors!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2015, 06:59:39 AM
Hawaii's O'Bungholecare Exchange implodes, kiss another $205M in stolen taxpayer loot good bye! (http://www.atr.org/hawaii-s-205-million-obamacare-exchange-implodes)

O'Bungle's (cough!) home state...

Perfect, eh?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2015, 11:37:55 AM
No surprise...the slack-jawed drooling drones at the AP ape and parrot San Fran Psycho's moronic take on O'BungwadCare subsidy case (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150513/us-pelosi-0d9f4d15f0.html).

Not that the Pubbies won't behave as is typical of them - like a battered spouse - but the correct and traditionally American way of dealing with this would be for people to GET OFF THEIR DEAD ASS AND GET A FULLTIME BENEFIT-PAYING JOB!!!

Not that a deadhead proglodyte pos like Nasty Pelousy would ever advocate let alone tolerate such a thing!!!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2015, 09:37:16 PM
More sticker shock...

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428.html)

 ::smallestviolin::

Ye were warned!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: warpmine on May 31, 2015, 10:15:35 AM
“Most voters, particular in this economic climate, are pocketbook voters,” Sanchez said. “Their personal finances are driving their political behavior.”

Yeah, no sh*t, Sherlock! The f**king thing was a ploy to keep the Rat's power so they could have the time needed to abolish both the Republic and the Constitution.

Listened to a story about some friend that couldn't afford the regular plans and settled for Medicaid for the children. Great they said until they wanted to use it. The child needed to see a specialist, an ear, nose and throat guy/girl and the appointment was scheduled for four months from now and if they miss it, another one could be scheduled five months later.

sh*t works like a charm, don't it? I explained to her that this is the way it is in every freaking country with socialized medicine and ran off the examples. Jaw dropping disbelief.

The example above was my family and the wife finally understands my obsession with ammunition stockpiles.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 01, 2015, 06:34:33 AM
Life cannot be lived without experiencing some cold hard truths, most people learn from these lessons...and then there are the terminally stupid and the perpetually ignorant, for them painful life lessons are not lessons...just somebody elses fault.  Personal responsibility has never taken root in such ilk.  For those people there needs to be a catestrophic failure that puts them out of their (and our) misery.  Funny how that latter part doesn't happen much, and not without taking innocents along for the ride.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Weisshaupt on June 04, 2015, 05:59:31 PM
IN a lot of cases, Obamacare will have made having  health insurance more expensive than simply paying out of pocket.  (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2014/02/obamacare-personal-finance-of-adverse.html#.VXDVyEY3Wio)


and more to come (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2015/06/obamacare-enrollment-by-metal-plan-type.html#.VXDXckY3Wio)

Yes, Virginia, the death spiral is real.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 05, 2015, 07:04:26 AM
Yeah, the chickens are starting to come home and roost. 

Here in Minniestupid, Gov. Mark (Pill-Popper) Dayton is "outraged" over the proposed increases insurers want. 

http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_28246081/8-minnesota-health-plans-propose-big-premium-hikes (http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_28246081/8-minnesota-health-plans-propose-big-premium-hikes)

The real outrage of course is anybody stupid enough to think this is shocking.  They blew the demographic assumptions, they weren't even in the same galaxy, and got all the crap and none of the cream.  They blew the number of participants.  Costs soared and one local insurer backed out last year and isn't a player this year, I bet some of those proposing hikes will drop out too if they get squeezed by the corrupt bureaucrats.  And this is all by design.  Private insurers must be made to fail by any means necessary or government will not be successful in nominating itself as sole insurer.  The governments ability to steal taxpayers wealth in the eyes of progressives is unlimited, surely this is Nirvana for the Prog agenda, because they also believe the power to redistribute OPM is likewise unlimited.

Anybody thinking more government is the answer is a pile of walking compost.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2015, 07:53:44 AM
ObamaCare networks see a drop of 42% in heart and cancer doc's, 24% fewer hospitals and 32% fewer primary care doc's (http://www.weaselzippers.us/230221-report-obamacare-plans-have-34-fewer-providers/), so yes boys and girls the path is clear...just like in The Highlander flick, in the end there can only be one (provider) and that will be government!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/theprog_zps63zwrwsg.png)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2015, 08:32:41 AM
You can mark this one up as "it just doesn't matter either way"...

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/minnesota-considers-scrapping-health-insurance-exchange (http://www.freedomworks.org/content/minnesota-considers-scrapping-health-insurance-exchange)

The only reason to keep it at the state level is if you think you will take less of a taxpayer hit keeping it there rather than through the Feds...but in the end all your healthcare belongs to Feds, the misery will continue until the politiprogs deem the people want the Feds to be the sole insurer of cradle-to-grave (and the latter will come sooner than you think!) care.

So, whatever.  It just doesn't matter...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on August 14, 2015, 08:52:30 AM
Gunsmith and I didn't sign on for Obongocare, but we're dealing with a doc who has -- and many have -- and so, they're the ones imposing it on us.  It's giving me fits, I'm here to tell you.  New rules -- the DEA has changed their Schedules for different drugs and requiring stricter monitoring (blood tests, etc.) because "young people are abusing them"; it has put prescription testosterone on the "Controlled substance" Schedule, for instance.

Yesterday was not a good day.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2015, 09:28:12 AM
I can imagine...

Working with government on anything makes one feel sullied, violated, angry... ... ...

And the way things are going it doesn't look like any of it will be getting less awful...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2015, 07:48:00 AM
ObamaCare for Undocumented Criminals!   ::whoohoo::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/01/bernie-sanders-tells-latino-lawmakers-undocumented-immigrants-should-benefit-from-obamacare/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/01/bernie-sanders-tells-latino-lawmakers-undocumented-immigrants-should-benefit-from-obamacare/)

Brilliant!  That'll get us closer to implosion!  Good luck with that!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Maybe we're finally getting close to seeing Obama's Fedcoats chasing sick little Progs down streets and forcing that $695 PENALTY out of their asses, eh?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/19/white-house-turns-to-threats-as-obamacare-enrollments-stall/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/19/white-house-turns-to-threats-as-obamacare-enrollments-stall/)

Or maybe it is just more hot air out Obama's arse...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2015, 09:26:08 AM
NY finds hundreds of dead people enrolled in ObamaCare...

http://iotwreport.com/ny-obamacare-exchange-enrolled-hundreds-of-dead-people/ (http://iotwreport.com/ny-obamacare-exchange-enrolled-hundreds-of-dead-people/)

...yeah...don't follow the money...it might lead to your voter base...

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2015, 08:07:50 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/beginning-end-affordable-care-act-largest-us-health-insurer-may-exit-obamacare (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/beginning-end-affordable-care-act-largest-us-health-insurer-may-exit-obamacare)


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAf0QnLFS7Q#)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2015, 07:17:20 AM
The CEO of UnitedHealthCare on Tuesday said he regretted the decision to enter the ObamaCare marketplace last year, which the company says has resulted in millions of dollars in losses.  “It was for us a bad decision,” UnitedHealth CEO Stephen Hemsley said at an investor’s meeting in New York. “In retrospect, we should have stayed out longer,” he said, adding that he believes the marketplace will take more than “a season or two” to develop.  “We did not believe it would form this slowly, be this porous, or become this severe,” he said.  (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/261617-unitedhealth-ceo-regrets-entering-obamacare-marketplace)

Stupid bastard!  The fool still sounds like he thinks there is hope this abomination will work some day.  What a bleeping jackass!

It was designed to fail, designed to cost everyone millions...billions!  So that the only White Knight available (the Federal Fovernment) could come galloping to the rescue!

Then, there will be no need for any private insurer, you and every one of your employees will be cut loose...and providers will be employees of the Federal Government, and healthcare in this nation will be less enjoyable than going to any inner-city DMV office.

f**k it, let it all die!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on December 02, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
He regrets entering the marketplace when he did?  The bastid advocated for the damn law!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on December 02, 2015, 10:04:33 AM
We should all be thankful that, no matter the depth of financial ruin this results in to the public and the stockholders, Stephen will come through this personally unscathed.

 ::pullhair::

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2015, 10:06:29 AM
The scathing will commence soon enough...   ::evilbat::

Tick...tock...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2015, 11:27:31 AM
Obamacare..."fully covered"...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/sheet-hits-the-plan-1.jpg)

H/T - WRSA
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on December 18, 2015, 08:01:06 AM
Once again I am not surprised (it is a hand-picked Hitlery audience after all)...these monkeys are incapable of rational thought or any kind of factual memory retention...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/246074-hillary-obamacare-forcing-workers-into-part-time-jobs/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/246074-hillary-obamacare-forcing-workers-into-part-time-jobs/)

...but the same people who created the mess and took credit for it now calling to build upon the mess some more is hilarious...

...before any other audience an asshole this obnoxious would have all manner of vile substance impacting it!

"...disincentive..."   ::laughonfloor::

Progressive bullshat is all about being a disincentive to work!!!

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2016, 07:31:25 AM
Cross-post from Hildabeast thread -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12828.new#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12828.new#new)

Another opportunity to be lost by E-GOP stooges...   ::pullhair::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2016, 08:20:11 AM
Everything is proceeding as planned...

http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/ (http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/)

...and you know what is coming...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on April 13, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
Everything is proceeding as planned...

http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/ (http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/)

...and you know what is coming...


The whole thing was designed to be impossible, to prep the battlespace for the "we tried the compromise approach, the evidence is clear that only single payer state-run healthcare can work" argument.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2016, 11:14:15 AM
Everything is proceeding as planned...

http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/ (http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/)

...and you know what is coming...






The whole thing was designed to be impossible, to prep the battlespace for the "we tried the compromise approach, the evidence is clear that only single payer state-run healthcare can work" argument.




Bingo!

Except the elite exempt themselves as usual and go to the Mayo Clinic while the 99% slowly, painfully die of neglect in a DMV-like waiting room...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 13, 2016, 07:53:59 PM
Everything is proceeding as planned...

http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/ (http://iotwreport.com/8-of-the-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-set-to-fail-this-year/)

...and you know what is coming...

One of the commenters mentions "Co-op-care"

I can just see it - a huge room filled with miserable people. An orderly comes in and shouts, "OK - lacerations, contusions and gunshots - come with me!"
Another orderly breezes through, "Heart attacks, Hemorrhoids, and Heartburn this way!" "Come on, step lively!" A third saunters in and commands, "Alright, any of you that has a fetus she wants to keep form a line over there!"

Here's to your health...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Euthanasia line would move briskly I bet.

Cue Monty Python line "I'm feeling much better!"

Thump!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on April 14, 2016, 07:00:14 AM
Imagine the most incompetent people in America being in charge.  Think VA for all.  That's what's so scary about the whole thing.  Most countries have some sort of functioning health care system.  Then again, most other countries don't pass out their health care jobs on race quotas, union membership, and are burdened with civil service rules, either.

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 14, 2016, 07:36:56 AM
It's that liberal guilt passed along generations of progressive mind-rot...the yankee-imperialist-capitalist-racist dog must atone by any and all means for their past sins against the black, the brown, the red, the yellow and the deviant and the criminal and the...

I think I just vomited a bit in my throat...man, do all these ProgTards need to go away in the worst way!

Oh well, tick/tock...not many tick's or tock's left...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2016, 07:23:15 AM
Heh, more big buckets overflowing with ObamaCare Schadenfeude!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-09/obamacare-update-insurance-premiums-set-explode-higher-2017 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-09/obamacare-update-insurance-premiums-set-explode-higher-2017)

Not surprising the bigger hikes in Oregon, DemoTards there deserve it!  How's that Obama-Pelosi-Reid Affordable Care Act working out for ya?!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on May 10, 2016, 09:23:47 AM
My health insurance premiums drop from $1,350 per month to zero, in 19 days.

Not that I'm counting or anything.  :supercool:
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on June 30, 2016, 11:39:01 AM
Jeebus...

Idiots are suing Feds for subsidies!

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/06/30/Obamacare-Insurers-Are-Looking-Taxpayer-Bailout (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/06/30/Obamacare-Insurers-Are-Looking-Taxpayer-Bailout)

Did we not say healthcare was going to get super-expensive once it was touted as "free"?

And these proglodyte buttmonkeys dare say these insurers should make a profit?!?!?!

 ::doublebird::

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2016, 07:39:40 AM
The planned ObamaCare death-spiral is accelerating, soon the land will be awash will lamentations and cries for the ultimate gift of caring - government being the single payer and sole arbiter of healthcare in America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/aetna-decision-exposes-weaknesses-in-obamas-health-care-law/2016/08/16/3bed308e-63d1-11e6-8b27-bb8ba39497a2_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/aetna-decision-exposes-weaknesses-in-obamas-health-care-law/2016/08/16/3bed308e-63d1-11e6-8b27-bb8ba39497a2_story.html)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2016, 12:05:15 PM
One opinion circulating out there...one that I hope is true...but...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-19/obamacare-s-public-option-is-no-longer-defensible (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-19/obamacare-s-public-option-is-no-longer-defensible)

...common sense, reality, reason...usually have jack-shyt to do with government policy or the desire to issue edicts to fix real and more often the case imaginary problems.

BOHICA, we'll be FUBAR'd...as long as idiots rule and cowards appease.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 22, 2016, 12:47:58 PM
Even if obamacare destructs under its own weight, remember where they really want to be....single payer. When you read the comments from the various sites about insurance premiums, a huge volume are complaints of "excessive profits" and insurance is a right.

Welcome to single payer.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 23, 2016, 07:17:01 AM
Even if obamacare destructs under its own weight, remember where they really want to be....single payer. When you read the comments from the various sites about insurance premiums, a huge volume are complaints of "excessive profits" and insurance is a right.

Welcome to single payer.

But the article addressed that bogus argument...the counter to that would be, "No government doesn't have a profit motive, it has a control motive and a history of stupendous waste, fraud and abuse...so costs are NOT going to be controlled any better by them, they will get exponentially worse!" but again, that wind tunnel between most sheeple's ears won't ever understand that simple inescapable truth until they are directly harmed...if then...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Dumbass/theobamapose_zpsmndus47l.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/Sheeple.jpg)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 23, 2016, 10:14:37 AM
Even if obamacare destructs under its own weight, remember where they really want to be....single payer. When you read the comments from the various sites about insurance premiums, a huge volume are complaints of "excessive profits" and insurance is a right.

Welcome to single payer.

But the article addressed that bogus argument...the counter to that would be, "No government doesn't have a profit motive, it has a control motive and a history of stupendous waste, fraud and abuse...so costs are NOT going to be controlled any better by them, they will get exponentially worse!" but again, that wind tunnel between most sheeple's ears won't ever understand that simple inescapable truth until they are directly harmed...if then...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Dumbass/theobamapose_zpsmndus47l.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/Sheeple.jpg)


Yea, it addresses the bogus argument but it really doesn't matter. These idiots don't care. So much of the population has been conditioned today, profit is bad, big business is bad and your savior is your gov't. Who is going to stop single payer? the republicans? Progs can taste the end game called single payer.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 23, 2016, 11:24:52 AM
Even if obamacare destructs under its own weight, remember where they really want to be....single payer. When you read the comments from the various sites about insurance premiums, a huge volume are complaints of "excessive profits" and insurance is a right.

Welcome to single payer.

But the article addressed that bogus argument...the counter to that would be, "No government doesn't have a profit motive, it has a control motive and a history of stupendous waste, fraud and abuse...so costs are NOT going to be controlled any better by them, they will get exponentially worse!" but again, that wind tunnel between most sheeple's ears won't ever understand that simple inescapable truth until they are directly harmed...if then...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Dumbass/theobamapose_zpsmndus47l.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/Sheeple.jpg)


Yea, it addresses the bogus argument but it really doesn't matter. These idiots don't care. So much of the population has been conditioned today, profit is bad, big business is bad and your savior is your gov't. Who is going to stop single payer? the republicans? Progs can taste the end game called single payer.

Sure.  And I can taste the coming Reckoning...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2016, 12:21:20 PM
6 years in...11% still uninsured...and costs are soaring (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/six-years-after-obamacare-11-percent-remain-uninsured)...

Yet, no failure will be reported by the MFM, no guilt accepted by the DemoNazi Party, no repeal by the Pubbie Do-Nothing Congress...

Everything is effing awesome, yes?

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 30, 2016, 04:06:10 PM
Most of you know I fish and my brother and I have been buying boats together for 30 years. We buy nice boats. 70K bass boats. Every 3 years.....Probably not this year. My brother, like me, is self employed. Fortunately, I'm covered by my wife's company insurance but he has to go out into "the marketplace" and his premium is around 950.00 monthly, except the fact he will receive a 62% price increase this year. That's 1550.00 monthly for a policy which carries a 12000.00 deductible. Now, he makes good money, mid 6 figures but with no end in sight to the increases it doesn't make sense to drop 30 K on a boat. Not to mention what my costs will be when my wife quits work, which she would like to do but we literally need the insurance.

I don't think the American people understand the economic ramifications to run away insurance costs. I know people don't understand what is happening to cause these dramatic increases. The fact you can plan, save, scrap, work like dogs to get to retirement, only to be faced with the prospect that insurance will keep you working well past what you want.

I'm disgusted. It's hard to fathom a 3k insurance bill each month.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 30, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Dumbasscare is teetering on a critical failure. It truly does suck for anyone unfortunate enough to be affected by it (which is most of us). It could very will fail this fall. But then what?

If Hellery wins she'll pump more and more money into the corpse. What will Trump do?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 30, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
I realize we will have some sort of socialized healthcare. Under Hillary, not only will it continue to go up but she will double down and raise the cap gains tax and all the brackets. The economy will screech to a halt.....worse than it is now.

I've read Trumps plan. It's better, for socialized medicine. If my wife does quit, we will opt for one of the non insurance "Christian" plans, which are out there. Actually, if you are relatively healthy, they are not bad. The gov't hates them because healthy people are opting there and all it leaves are the sick, atheists, liberals, devil worshippers, etc in socialized medicine.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on August 30, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
None of this represents a failure of ObamaCare.  This, every bit of it, is doing exactly as intended.  They want the costs to become so outrageous that people furiously demand the government step in and "fix" it.  And we damn well know how they will do that.  It's been the plan all along.  It's the Hegelian dialectic: thesis, antithesis, synthesis -- problem, reaction, solution.

It was obvious before they passed the bill during the middle of the night.  It was obvious during the arguments leading up to it.  The liberals and the media (but I repeat myself) dismissed those predictions as ridiculous conspiracy theories.  Then when it turns out just as predicted, they adopt an entirely different tone of "well of course costs soared, and that proves why we should have gone to single payer from the beginning."

Liberals always go from "Nuh uh!" in the beginning, to "Well duh!" after it's a done deal, without the slightest bit of cognitive dissonance, and they are never called on it.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2016, 07:39:59 AM
But the Progs are all banking on being able to bamboozle and force government single-payer down our throats and not suffer any consequences in the attempt or execution...and I think they greatly discount the level of visceral hatred of Obamacare and what it portends for the future viability of this society...
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
I believe, at one time, we've all posted the end game is single payer.

It's coming.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 31, 2016, 10:47:32 AM
I believe, at one time, we've all posted the end game is single payer.

It's coming.

Yes, I believe that we have. And I believe that I've stated that the inner domestic terrorist in me would rather have no medical industrial complex than single-payer. I'm happy with burning it all to the ground.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2016, 11:40:37 AM
(http://www.netanimations.net/Animated_wall_of_fire_flames.GIF)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
When are the cash only clinics gonna start popping up. I could see this scenario.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Glock32 on August 31, 2016, 03:05:12 PM
When are the cash only clinics gonna start popping up. I could see this scenario.

I can also see another scenario where they outlaw such clinics, citing the cash-only clinics and patients circumventing the system and therefore "not paying their fair share" in the form of fees that subsidize the system.

Too farfetched?  Remember how the feds took over the student loan market?
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2016, 07:12:19 PM
When are the cash only clinics gonna start popping up. I could see this scenario.

I can also see another scenario where they outlaw such clinics, citing the cash-only clinics and patients circumventing the system and therefore "not paying their fair share" in the form of fees that subsidize the system.

Too farfetched?  Remember how the feds took over the student loan market?


I can believe it. The non insurance "Christian" plans are ridiculed by the gov't and called risky. In reality, they are mad because healthier people are flocking to the alternative, leaving the sick to be fleeced by gov't plans. They will likely be outlawed too.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
When are the cash only clinics gonna start popping up. I could see this scenario.

In a small scale sense they already exist - the Minute Clinics, like to set up in grocery stores and drug stores.  All they have to do is grow and expand.  And if this sh*t continues they'll do just that.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on September 01, 2016, 05:33:53 PM
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The fact you can plan, save, scrap, work like dogs to get to retirement, only to be faced with the prospect that insurance will keep you working well past what you want.

Which is why I'm now here and not there.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
Coming to Amerika soon...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/02/obese-patients-and-smokers-banned-from-all-routine-operations-by/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/02/obese-patients-and-smokers-banned-from-all-routine-operations-by/)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/assisted-dying-bill-senate-approval-1.3640195 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/assisted-dying-bill-senate-approval-1.3640195)

#DeathPanelsAreReal
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on September 06, 2016, 06:16:05 PM
In America there will be a political test, not a weight test.  A weaponized, politicized government matters.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2016, 07:27:11 AM
Fair is fair...I'll answer them at 3000fps.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
This thread needed some recent action...

Leave it to Bill Clinton to let a brain-fart turn into a momentary ejection of honesty...


“You’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care, and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half and it’s the craziest thing in the world.
 
On the other hand, the current system works fine if you’re eligible for Medicaid, if you’re a lower-income working person. If you’re already on Medicare or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your health care.
 
But the people getting killed in this deal are the small-business people and individuals who make just a little bit too much to get any of these subsidies."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/bill-clinton-bashes-obamacare-craziest-thing-world (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/bill-clinton-bashes-obamacare-craziest-thing-world)

Obama happens.

Best comment by far -

Joe Davola  MillionDollarBonus_ Oct 4, 2016 12:25 PM
'I can’t be responsible for every under-capitalized small business in America'!"

Cue-Single Payer, Hildabest and FedGov to the rescue (of their own man-made clusterfvck!)...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Pandora on October 04, 2016, 03:45:02 PM
'I can’t be responsible for every under-capitalized small business in America'!

I remember her saying that, was just thinking about it the other day after one of her stinkin' lyin' speeches when she was supposedly advocating for the suffering small businesses in this country.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2016, 05:36:14 PM
Obama destroyed the living crap out of small business...the one-time "back-bone" of the American economy...and he and Clinton's DemonRat's did the same thing to the family farm, which ironically not a few were good democrat plantations...by imposing regulations only Big Ag can absorb and even more maliciously yanking the land out of families by punitive tax laws that FORCED heirs to divvy up the land so as to pay the effing Tax Man until it gets to the point there is nothing worth divvying up anymore and BigAg swept up all the easy pickings!

Full-frontal rape and pillage...and people just watched it happen and let democrats get away with sh*t like saying only they "look out for the little guy"...

Makes me want to bash skulls in!!!    ::outrage::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on October 04, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
As I look out and am seeing Christmas decorations (it starts in September here) and the heat indexes start to moderate did I tell everyone how much I'm missing Crapholesota?

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/09/01/health-insurance-premium-spike/ (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/09/01/health-insurance-premium-spike/)

Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2016, 06:41:43 AM
Yeah...insurers drop each year...premiums skyrocket to cover all the needs of a toxic pool...shocking...

/

And I think Todd might be pulling our legs just a bit...giving us a bit-o-the-business!

And hey, starts early too here my friend...I heard my first Christmas ad like 5 days before September ended...never too early to exploit the masses!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: ToddF on October 05, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
SM Malls start it in mid September.  The Robinsons chains October 1.  Christmas season really is over 3 months, here.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 05, 2016, 07:27:31 PM
Web Hubble's daughter tried to deflect a reporters question about Bubba's blasphemy - and fails miserably.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/chelsea-clinton-sticks-her-head-in-the-sand-when-asked-about-bills-obamacare-takedown-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/chelsea-clinton-sticks-her-head-in-the-sand-when-asked-about-bills-obamacare-takedown-video/)



Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Web Hubble's daughter tried to deflect a reporters question about Bubba's blasphemy - and fails miserably.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/chelsea-clinton-sticks-her-head-in-the-sand-when-asked-about-bills-obamacare-takedown-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/chelsea-clinton-sticks-her-head-in-the-sand-when-asked-about-bills-obamacare-takedown-video/)

Wow, really not the sharpest tool in the shed...yep, definitely spawn of Webbillary.
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2016, 07:23:04 AM
Well, as we go into the government-run craddle-grave sh*tter we have this to look forward to...



The morgue's barely functioning cooling system was to blame – hardly a surprise in the oil-rich yet impoverished nation whose health-care system has collapsed under the socialist government. Decomposing for two days in the tropical heat, the corpse finally exploded in a spray of toxic fluids and gasses. The ghastly incident earlier this month necessitated the partial evacuation of the hospital, University Hospital Antonio Patricio de Alcalá, located in Cumaná -- a city of 825,000 in eastern Venezuela. Patients in nearby rooms and corridors were sickened to their stomachs by the stench. 

“It’s not the first time that a body exploded,” a hospital employee told a Venezuelan media outlet. “It has already occurred two times since the middle of September.”

The hospital certainly was not always a house of horrors. It was once regarded as one of Venezuela's best public hospitals -- a standard-bearer for health care, according to the Venezuela news site La Patilla. Recently, La Patilla sent a reporter with a hidden camera through the facility: it revealed patients unattended in hallways and the emergency room, shortages of essential equipment, and a lack of air conditioning in wards. The hospital is yet another example of economic decay under “21st Century Socialism" – what Venezuela's late firebrand president, Hugo Chávez, had pledged would turn the South American nation into a workers paradise. Socialism, however, has turned Venezuela into a workers hell.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264530/corpses-exploding-decrepit-venezuelan-hospitals-david-paulin#.WAeN2me_7s0.email (http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264530/corpses-exploding-decrepit-venezuelan-hospitals-david-paulin#.WAeN2me_7s0.email)
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 21, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
Exodus?  That started already...all these gubermint goons can do will accelerate it...

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/risk-of-mass-exodus-of-doctors-from-medicare/ (http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/risk-of-mass-exodus-of-doctors-from-medicare/)

...all by design...and more gubermint is the answer of course...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on October 25, 2016, 07:23:33 AM
Heh!  This is priceless!

Obama front groups in 2012 -

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-24-at-9.33.39-PM.png)

Obama Regime yesterday - Obamacare premiums are set to skyrocket an average of 22% for the benchmark silver plan in 2017, according to a government report released Monday.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/303167-breaking-obama-admin-announces-obamacare-premiums-will-rise-by-22-next-year/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/303167-breaking-obama-admin-announces-obamacare-premiums-will-rise-by-22-next-year/)

But hey, the average fat, lazy, stupid American won't blame Obama or any Leftists...they'll eat more crap sandwiches and embrace that government single payer nirvana without a second thought (mostly because they cannot even generate a firth thought).

But in other good news on the Progressive front costs of treating the terminally ill are about to make a drop, thanks to leading edge progressives in California -

The Washington Times reported that the California Assisted-suicide law prompted an insurance company to deny coverage to a terminally ill California woman.

Bradford Richardson, from the Washington Times reported that Stephanie Packer, a wife and mother of four who was diagnosed with a terminal form of scleroderma, said that her insurance company initially indicated it would pay for her to switch to a different chemotherapy drug based on the recommendation of her doctors but shortly after the California assisted suicide law went into effect, her insurance company denied her treatment.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/303195-terminally-ill-california-womans-insurance-company-will-pay-for-her-assisted-suicide-but-not-for-chemo/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/303195-terminally-ill-california-womans-insurance-company-will-pay-for-her-assisted-suicide-but-not-for-chemo/)

Now that's Progressive!  Margaret Sanger would be so very proud!
Title: Re: The Very Pinnacle Of Schadenfreude Unleashed Via DumbassCare
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2017, 07:46:00 AM
Well...uhh...DUH?!?!?!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/334967-major-insurance-company-ditches-obamacare-profits-soar/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/334967-major-insurance-company-ditches-obamacare-profits-soar/)