It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: oldcoastie6468 on March 01, 2014, 09:36:57 AM
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Just names that come to mind this morning.
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Conservative values will never again win. The ruling elite will see to it.
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Not just the ruling elite. I have serious doubts about whether we have a population capable of it. The Free Sh1t Army has metastasized for generations. At this point whoever promises to keep the freebies coming wins by default.
The only thing that is going to defeat the current order is Reality, and it is unavoidable that it's going to happen. The question is not if it's going to collapse, but what sort of time scale and how survivable the undertow will be.
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I would vote for Palin, Cruz, or Paul, for all the good it will do.
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This is a poll, folks. Please vote and explain if necessary, or if you feel like it.
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This is a poll, folks. Please vote and explain if necessary, or if you feel like it.
Sorry about that. Voted.
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At this point I'm looking at Cruz, he seems to be the tea party darling, plus is gaining some favor with others.
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Not that it matters...hitting the trifecta in the thread title is tough to foresee in latter day America...I chose other, only because I think a total outsider, a stealth candidate of impeccable character who would possess the principles we share and shuns political parties and runs as an independent may be the only viable chance to enjoy success.
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There was an event when Palin was runnin g for veep she was a fantastic speaker...and I really like Rand Paul and I could vote for him too, but my heart is currently with Cruz. I think he has a lot of hope. With him as President or V.P. and Governor Walker or Rand Paul in the other spot, we might have a shot. As long as there are still a few good men out there, we have hope. We just have to find a way to get to the majority.
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I'll take any one of them.
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My vote had to go to Senator Cruz. So far, he is the only person who has stood by his convictions, no matter what the cost. He put his political career on the line, (with the filibuster), and his vocal opposition to the nonsense that goes on in DC. The only way he will win, is if we the people MAKE him win. We have 2 more years to take America back, or should I say, 2 more elections. If the democrat party somehow steals this November's elections, or the 2016 one, I see no way out... peacefully!
I know that, here, I'm preaching to the choir, but we patriots have got to reach our friends and neighbors, the lady at Dunkin Donuts, the guy at the gas station... everyone you can, talk to them, ask them questions about their government, if they're happy, or better yet... do they believe they're as free now as they were before Obama.
I believe Cruz WILL keep his promise!
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The Democrat-Media Complex will completely and utterly destroy anyone...they came out from behind their curtain in 2008...if they can pounce on their sometime media darling McCain and a moderate like Mitt RomneyCare a real conservative can expect Palin type treatment times a factor of ten. I think Cruz and perhaps Paul can stand up to that, but even if they can do an end run around the media, the rest of the apparatus will be in full fraud, lie, cheat and steal mode...they won't even have to try to hide it, in fact I think they are beyond pretense anymore and in the full-blown intimidation phase of thise undeclared war...they have been behaving like criminals from the rank-and-file and now all the way to the POTUS himself...and nobody is stopping them. Assuming any election will be fair or honest is insane. Thinking they will be held accountable (a few, after the fact and the deed is done) is useless. People have to start moving beyond foolish thinking, the America they once knew is dead or near enough so...now is the time for a rebirth of the Sons of Liberty, let the sons of bitches play their games...and may the stronger prevail.
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I would bet most in Low Information America have never heard Cruz, just what others have said about him. Cruz alone, has the debate talent to stand up to anybody.
Being right isn't any special talent. Anyone on that list, or in this thread is right. Being right, standing on stage, and being able to explain such to a low information audience, over the cacophony of bulls**t, is a very rare talent that Cruz alone has. The very talent that made Reagan win.
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I am still sticking with None of the Above. I will lend no credence what-so-ever to the GOP. They exist only as a pressure release- to give the populace something to do to make them feel like they resisted the agenda, only to find that nothing is done to reverse it. LET THE DEMS WIN. Let them be at the helm when this thing collapses. They are the ones most likely to engage in heavy handed force and to start the civil war - which is THE ONLY WAY we are ever getting our Freedom back.
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I am still sticking with None of the Above. I will lend no credence what-so-ever to the GOP. They exist only as a pressure release- to give the populace something to do to make them feel like they resisted the agenda, only to find that nothing is done to reverse it. LET THE DEMS WIN. Let them be at the helm when this thing collapses. They are the ones most likely to engage in heavy handed force and to start the civil war - which is THE ONLY WAY we are ever getting our Freedom back.
Even if a conservative were to win the White House, the ruling elite would NEVER let him accomplish anything. So I'm like you. Let them burn.
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I am still sticking with None of the Above. I will lend no credence what-so-ever to the GOP. They exist only as a pressure release- to give the populace something to do to make them feel like they resisted the agenda, only to find that nothing is done to reverse it. LET THE DEMS WIN. Let them be at the helm when this thing collapses. They are the ones most likely to engage in heavy handed force and to start the civil war - which is THE ONLY WAY we are ever getting our Freedom back.
Even if a conservative were to win the White House, the ruling elite would NEVER let him accomplish anything. So I'm like you. Let them burn.
Yes, but I'll tell you what I would absolutely LOVE to see...a candidate whom once they get the nomination, starting right at the convention speech and throughout the election...use that pulpit to absolutely destroy the Left and their supporters. I want bold statements highlighting the real agenda of the Left, referring to Leftist leaders as radical progressive national socialists, referring to their supporters with scathing rhetoric like "I wouldn't expect an Obama-voter to understand..." and "...the slaves the democrat progressives bring onto their handout plantation are a disease..." just rip their asses from one end to the other 24/7! They are gonna be demonized, marginalized and cheated anyway...might as well get every penny worth of flesh and make it clear beyond a doubt who and what is destroying this nation. And when it all goes sideways perhaps more than otherwise expected will see who is to blame and act accordingly. I really would like to see a candidate do this just fricken once before I die!!!
::praying:: ::praying:: ::praying::
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I have withdrawn my consent to be governed by anyone who has been in politics. They are all suspect and will negotiate away my rights if it suits them.
Ill support the first person who can lead a proper revolution or insurgency, so long as they are liberty-oriented.
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I have withdrawn my consent to be governed by anyone who has been in politics. They are all suspect and will negotiate away my rights if it suits them.
Ill support the first person who can lead a proper revolution or insurgency, so long as they are liberty-oriented.
I have been telling my soon to be ex-wife that her lawyer and therapist are not interested in her, just that they can make more money off of her and with that mind set they are forcing additional litigation or therapy. Just like these RINO's all they want from you or me is additional time to continue raping all of us for their own personal gain!!
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I would bet most in Low Information America have never heard Cruz, just what others have said about him. Cruz alone, has the debate talent to stand up to anybody.
Being right isn't any special talent. Anyone on that list, or in this thread is right. Being right, standing on stage, and being able to explain such to a low information audience, over the cacophony of bulls**t, is a very rare talent that Cruz alone has. The very talent that made Reagan win.
As in some of the earlier posts - the one thing Cruz has going for him is a good and building packing from the Tea Party. I'm hoping they don't cave to the media lies. At least when they were starting there was pretty good representation nation wide and if it truely has been increasing I think he would have a chance with the dems and the rino's. IMO Ross Perot in the 90's had a one track mind thinking his money could bye himself into office setting himself up as savior for his own glorifiaction. America didn't by it and as noted the only thing his campaign did was to allowed the Clinton's to continue destroying the country. Hopefully America has learned and the Tea Party isnt another fluke, they now have taken 5 years to get their act together. ::praying::
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Shytt ---- Went to bed and couldn't sleep. Got to much today, so what do I do - surprise surprise, I lay there thinking, about politics and 'who'. As I have stated I thought Ted Cruz had a chance - but stupid me --- I forgot ::oldman:: he can't run for President -- born in Alberta, Canada disqualifies him and I doubt America and/or the Tea Party would allow it, [a little item like the Constitution stops it] especially after the thing we have now.
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The 2016 presidential election is more than three years away, but potential candidates and their supporters are already contemplating the next campaign. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas—now well-known for his role in the recent federal shutdown—and California’s celebrity former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger are among those whose names are circulating. But neither Cruz nor Schwarzenegger was born in the United States, and the Constitution provides that “[n]o person except a natural born citizen, or a Citizen at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
For Cruz, Schwarzenegger, and a number of other potential candidates, the Natural Born Citizenship Clause raises a critical question: Is anyone born outside the United States constitutionally eligible to serve as president?
Senator John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone, faced the same question with respect to his natural-born citizenship status in his 2008 presidential bid, and purported concerns about President Obama’s constitutional qualifications led “birthers” to file lawsuits challenging his natural-born credentials on the basis of a variety of far-fetched theories during the last several years. A new natural-born citizenship debate is already simmering, and it seems likely to heat up a great deal before the 2016 election takes place.
The Constitution does not define the term natural born citizen. Even so, Governor Schwarzenegger is clearly out of the running. Given that he was born in Austria to Austrian parents, there is no basis for arguing that he is a natural-born citizen of the United States.
For Senator Cruz—who was born in Calgary, Alberta, to an American mother and a Cuban father—the question is more complicated. There is a strong argument that anyone who acquires United States citizenship at birth, whether by virtue of the 14th Amendment or by operation of federal statute, qualifies as natural born. The Supreme Court, however, has never ruled on the meaning of the natural-born citizenship requirement. In the absence of a definitive Supreme Court ruling—or a constitutional amendment—the parameters of the clause remain uncertain.
For Senator Cruz—who was born in Calgary, Alberta, to an American mother and a Cuban father—the question is more complicated. There is a strong argument that anyone who acquires United States citizenship at birth, whether by virtue of the 14th Amendment or by operation of federal statute, qualifies as natural born. The Supreme Court, however, has never ruled on the meaning of the natural-born citizenship requirement. In the absence of a definitive Supreme Court ruling—or a constitutional amendment—the parameters of the clause remain uncertain.
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Challenges to presidential qualifications are not new. In 1964, for example, questions arose as to the natural-born credentials of Republican nominee Senator Barry Goldwater, because he was born in Arizona prior to statehood. In 1968, legal actions were threatened against former Michigan Governor George Romney, who was born to American parents in Mexico, when he sought the Republican nomination.
http://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen-eligible-serve-president-100207138--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen-eligible-serve-president-100207138--politics.html)
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401)
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An American mother maybe grounds for a challenge, but at this time I think it would be futile do to this current 'things' 'non-history'. In my 'night owl ' time last night another name came to mind - Marco Rubio senator from Florida. Both of his parents were born in Cuba and immigrated in 1956/naturalized as U. S. citizens in 1975, Rubio was born here in Miami in 1971,[and documented for many government offices - unlike somebody].
Besides a lot of the same charactoristics of Cruz - being of a 'minority' like Cruz, [Cuban] he would undoubtedly carry the Hispanic vote - as he did in Florida. No filibuster, but he does speak his mine like Cruz and from what I've seen has good support of the Tea Party, plus having a large following in his state of Florida with their large voting and electoral college block.
From the what it's worth category he may also stand a good chance. Sadly a dirty trash can would be a better choice than what we have now, or the female dem. front runner the left is peeing their draws over. But I digress.......
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An American mother maybe grounds for a challenge, but at this time I think it would be futile do to this current 'things' 'non-history'. In my 'night owl ' time last night another name came to mind - Marco Rubio senator from Florida. Both of his parents were born in Cuba and immigrated in 1956/naturalized as U. S. citizens in 1975, Rubio was born here in Miami in 1971,[and documented for many government offices - unlike somebody].
Besides a lot of the same charactoristics of Cruz - being of a 'minority' like Cruz, [Cuban] he would undoubtedly carry the Hispanic vote - as he did in Florida. No filibuster, but he does speak his mine like Cruz and from what I've seen has good support of the Tea Party, plus having a large following in his state of Florida with their large voting and electoral college block.
From the what it's worth category he may also stand a good chance. Sadly a dirty trash can would be a better choice than what we have now, or the female dem. front runner the left is peeing their draws over. But I digress.......
Not just NO, but HELL NO! Amnesty shill. Lied about it to get elected. Ask Floridians; he was for amnesty there before he was against it, then he was for it. Any Republican that's willing to get in bed with Schmucky Schumer like Rubio did with amnesty?
SPIT.
And he does not speak his mind just like Cruz: amnesty shill. Lastly, neither of his parents were citizens here when he was born.
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Hey, Marco...to the corner...don't forget your hat!
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::thinking:: Could that be more NO's - like I indicated just throwing out other names ::stirpot::
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I have been telling my soon to be ex-wife that her lawyer and therapist are not interested in her, just that they can make more money off of her and with that mind set they are forcing additional litigation or therapy. Just like these RINO's all they want from you or me is additional time to continue raping all of us for their own personal gain!!
Sorry to hear that Ben61. For some reason women seem to be especially susceptible to that -especially during divorce hearings.
These women aren't paying for legal advice- they want someone to listen ( and not solve) their problems and validate their feelings, and will gladly fork over the families life saving to hear what they want to hear. I always tell the men I know to present their wives with papers splitting everything 60/40, providing a reasonable alimony payment, sharing custody, and agreeing to pay for child expenses 50/50 via submitting receipts for the specific items required (room & boards not included-as both parents need to provide that 1/2 of the time according to their fashion) , and to do it the day after she even SUGGESTS getting a divorce. You then pull them out each time she suggests it after that and say "sign if you want" - - I drew them up to give you more because I would rather the money stay in the family, going to you and the kids, rather than go to pay for Lawyers to bilk unsuspecting and hurting women by telling them what they want to hear. ( and if you don't, you will still end up with a 60/40 payment, probably a larger alimony payment, and payment of a child stipend that she will use any damn way she pleases AND have lawyer bills on top of that. )
But you are right its the same thing we see going on in politics. The lawyer (lawmaker - blue team ) convinces one party they have been victimized (Democrats and women, homos, blacks, criminals who cross the border) so they ask for more than they deserve. Those who are being taken advantage of then attempt to resist and hire a lawyer (lawmaker-red team) but that lawyer has no more incentive to end that fight than the first does. They get more money if they convince both parties to engage in a long conflict that is never resolved.
DEM-RED TEAM: "You need us so we can use the government to steal from and punish those who victimized you (okay really anyone who disagrees with our agenda) "
GOP-BLUE TEAM: "You need us or the RED TEAM WILL TAKE IT ALL!"
In the end 90% goes to the lawyers, 30% to your wife and you get a second job to make up that 20% ...
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::thinking:: Could that be more NO's - like I indicated just throwing out other names ::stirpot::
Sorry, I wigged out there for a minute. HotAir thrust Rubio forward again recently (allahpaininmyazz) and if I'd been registered there, my comment would've gotten me banned. But manymanymany there think the same -- NO.
Oops, one more NO.
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No problem here - just throughing out names for other opinions. The list is long as we all know, and I'm far from making up my feeble mind.
We all need this question answered;
"A Few Good Men" By Woody Wright/Wesley Pritchard/Guy Penrod/Reggie Smith/etc. (NYC 2001) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZsFe6dM3EY#)
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And away from 'men' - two names especially if 'bill-ary' is' [damn I hope not] the dem choosen a** hole to run;
Two more repubs with some Tea Party support ;
Michelle Bachman
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/Interesting%20people/220px-Bachmann2011_zps97c1eee1.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/rustybayonet_2009/media/Interesting%20people/220px-Bachmann2011_zps97c1eee1.jpg.html)
Jan Brewer
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/Interesting%20people/220px-Jan_Brewer_by_Gage_Skidmore_3_zps4466d83e.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/rustybayonet_2009/media/Interesting%20people/220px-Jan_Brewer_by_Gage_Skidmore_3_zps4466d83e.jpg.html)
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Brewer?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!?!
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Yeah Brewer? For a while she seemed to have some gumption, but they obviously "got" to her.
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Probably wont see Bachman get outta the primaries again, IMO, but I'm with pan, never for Rubio.
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Probably wont see Bachman get outta the primaries again, IMO, but I'm with pan, never for Rubio.
Bachmann isn't running again.
No women for me either.