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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Pandora on February 26, 2013, 10:52:33 PM

Title: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Pandora on February 26, 2013, 10:52:33 PM
Releasing “waves” of illegal immigrants from detention centers (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/26/obamas-first-sequester-move-releasing-waves-of-illegal-immigrants-from-detention-centers/)

H/T Ace
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: trapeze on February 26, 2013, 11:22:22 PM
I don't know if anyone here has mentioned it yet but I saw this posted on AoS yesterday and I don't think that it can be repeated enough times. It's from a podcast of Glen Reynolds and you can hear it in its entirety here. (http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/02/glenn_reynolds.html)

Here is the relevant quote:

Quote
REYNOLDS: Here’s the problem with public officials — because that’s really [Seidman’s] audience — deciding to ignore the Constitution: If you’re the president, if you’re a member of Congress, if you are a TSA agent, the only reason why somebody should listen to what you say, instead of horsewhipping you out of town for your impertinence, is because you exercise power via the Constitution. If the Constitution doesn’t count, you don’t have any legitimate power. You’re a thief, a brigand, an officious busybody, somebody who should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail for trying to exercise power you don’t possess.
So if we’re going to start ignoring the Constitution, I’m fine with that. The first part I’m going to start ignoring is the part that says, I have to do whatever they say.

ROBERTS: But his argument is that we already ignore the Constitution; it’s not really much of a binding document.

REYNOLDS: Oh, well, then I’m free to do whatever I want! And actually, that is a damning admission, because what that really says is: If you believe Seidman’s argument; if you believe that we already ignore the Constitution anyway, then in fact, the government rules by sheer naked force, and nothing else. And if that’s what you believe, then all of this talk of revolution suddenly doesn’t seem so crazy, it seems almost mandatory.

ROBERTS: Well, he would say – well, I won’t speak for him, but some would say that, well, there’s a social contract, we’ve all agreed to kind of play by these rules…

REYNOLDS: Oh really?!

ROBERTS: …of electing officials, and…

REYNOLDS: Well, the rules I agreed to electing these officials are the Constitution. I thought we were going to ignore that. That’s my social contract.

Lawlessness breeds lawlessness. I just wonder when the tipping point will be reached?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Glock32 on February 26, 2013, 11:41:41 PM
Releasing “waves” of illegal immigrants from detention centers (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/26/obamas-first-sequester-move-releasing-waves-of-illegal-immigrants-from-detention-centers/)

H/T Ace


Well there's a big ass surprise. Just like when local "officials" threaten that police, firemen, and teachers will be first on the chopping block if you don't consent to their latest money grubbing tax hike.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Pandora on February 27, 2013, 12:16:16 AM
Releasing “waves” of illegal immigrants from detention centers (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/26/obamas-first-sequester-move-releasing-waves-of-illegal-immigrants-from-detention-centers/)

H/T Ace


Well there's a big ass surprise. Just like when local "officials" threaten that police, firemen, and teachers will be first on the chopping block if you don't consent to their latest money grubbing tax hike.

The thing is the sequestor isn't due to take effect until Friday, I think.  The illegals have been released already.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Read that Glenn Harlan interview elsewhere, trap; spot on he is.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: RickZ on February 27, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
Owebama believes in The Rule of Law:  His rule, his law.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2013, 07:29:53 AM
Too late to open fire eh?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Lisa in PA on February 27, 2013, 07:50:45 AM
Supposedly, Obama's reasoning for this release is in anticipation of cuts.  My question would be, if you feel forced to release prisoners, why wouldn't you pick Americans rather than illegal alien criminals?  It's just another poke in the eye from that a$$hole.  ::pokeineye::   I saw Judge Napolitano on Fox yesterday, and he said this would be an impeachable offense since Obama is charged by the Constitution to "faithfully" uphold his oath of office, and purposely putting American citizens in danger to make a point is the opposite of that.  I'm sitting here holding my breath..... ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: AlanS on February 27, 2013, 07:53:33 AM
Releasing “waves” of illegal immigrants from detention centers (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/26/obamas-first-sequester-move-releasing-waves-of-illegal-immigrants-from-detention-centers/)

H/T Ace


Well there's a big ass surprise. Just like when local "officials" threaten that police, firemen, and teachers will be first on the chopping block if you don't consent to their latest money grubbing tax hike.

The thing is the sequestor isn't due to take effect until Friday, I think.  The illegals have been released already.

You can never start a panic too early.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
I suppose he had Holder give them some guns they had leftover from their Mexico operation with the Cartel too, eh?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2013, 07:16:25 AM
And this is what passes for leadership for the POSOTUS-

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/27/obama-top-lawmakers-will-meet-friday-budget-cuts/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/27/obama-top-lawmakers-will-meet-friday-budget-cuts/)

Wow, 7 whole minutes, how fricken magnanimous of Duh Wun!

 ::)

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
Lying POSOTUS doing his thing -

The White House on Wednesday said it did not approve the release this week of hundreds of illegal immigrants being held in detention centers (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=174210)
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Pandora on February 28, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Yet, somehow -- magic unicorns? -- it happened.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
Raise the tail and enjoy the skittles.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Predator Don on February 28, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
taste the rainbow.

Riddle: how many impeachable offenses does it take to actually be impeached?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Glock32 on February 28, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
Lying POSOTUS doing his thing -

The White House on Wednesday said it did not approve the release this week of hundreds of illegal immigrants being held in detention centers (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=174210)



Gaslighting. That's all it is. It's remarkably effective too. Some university psychologist conducted an experiment where he and his assistants approached people walking through the campus and with a great concern in their voices asked the people if they were OK, did they need any help, etc. The people were always taken aback at first, "Uhh, help for what?"  And they'd tell them "You just fell down, you hit your head right on the sidewalk!"  It's uncanny how frequently that tactic worked with people.  It plants the seed in their mind that if indeed they did fall down and hit their head, perhaps they simply have no memory of the last few seconds and can they really trust their own perception versus what these obviously concerned passersby are telling them?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 28, 2013, 09:48:20 PM

Read that the next big thing is going to be a
Constitutional Convention, a majority of states
can over rule the president and the congress.
It sounds like a great pressure valve and correction
is possible.  It's a possibility not a probability.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Glock32 on February 28, 2013, 09:54:15 PM
The idea of a Constitutional Convention is not one that fills me with optimism. In the current climate, it would certainly be hijacked and crap like "right to a good job" would find its way in.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 28, 2013, 10:21:51 PM
The idea of a Constitutional Convention is not one that fills me with optimism. In the current climate, it would certainly be hijacked and crap like "right to a good job" would find its way in.

Absolutely correct. A constitutional convention at this point would guarantee the end of the republic.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2013, 07:16:29 AM
I'm all for an all-consuming fire.

First up for today though is another (will it be 7 minutes again?) campaign CYA photo-op meeting at the Presidential Palace.

Should be a short meeting, tell the POSOTUS and Dingy Harry they are going to get the sequester action they are all for.  Tell POSOTUS to quite being a pussy and sign the order already!  It should have been done at midnight, yet here we are and the puny cuts in the increase in spending have not gone into effect yet?  POSOTUS be stonewalling!
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 01, 2013, 09:32:02 AM

Heard something about 11:59PM, going to be another Friday night dump.  Get your helmet.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2013, 11:17:14 AM

Heard something about 11:59PM, going to be another Friday night dump.  Get your helmet.

Yup.

You know the drill. . .

If the lips on the POSOTUS are moving -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-01/obama-admit-defeat-or-apportion-blame-live-webcast (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-01/obama-admit-defeat-or-apportion-blame-live-webcast)

Dear God I despise statist trash with an undying passion!
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 01, 2013, 11:27:44 AM
To his last miserable breath Øbongo will never admit defeat or accept responsibility. He is far too prideful and far too obdurate. All of his pathetic existence every misstep, every calamity has been someone else's fault. He is perfection personified (in his own mind) and only God can knock him off his self-constructed pedestal.

I quietly await my fate and my only hope is to live long enough to witness the fall of The House of Øbongo.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
So say we all!

Oh, and since he is so good at double-talk and lying, we know this statement reflects exactly who he wants to be -

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/02/mt_Obama%20tough%20talk_0.jpg)

 "I am not a dictator. I'm the president."

"So, ultimately, if Mitch McConnell or John Boehner say that we need to go to catch a plane, I can't have Secret Service block the door way, right?"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-i-am-not-dictator-im-president_704907.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-i-am-not-dictator-im-president_704907.html)

Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Glock32 on March 01, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. Now by the way, if Congress refuses to act in the way I think they should, then I'm just going to do it myself.  Did I mention I'm not a dictator?"
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Rush talking about that Des Moines Register crap where he talked up Sequester, here's some links about that story -

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html)

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/ (http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/)

Democrat-Media Complex already scrubbed the source clean -

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found)

So many lonely street lights, oh so many. . .
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Glock32 on March 01, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
Rush talking about that Des Moines Register crap where he talked up Sequester, here's some links about that story -

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html)

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/ (http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/)

Democrat-Media Complex already scrubbed the source clean -

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found)

So many lonely street lights, oh so many. . .

And no one deserves to bend them more than the so called journalists. The media are nothing but an information mafia, deliberately working hand-in-hand with the political Left to give the citizenry what Pandora calls the mushroom treatment (kept in the dark and sh*t on). When the time comes, I can already hear the protestations that they're merely apolitical and disinterested reporters, innocent bystanders if you will. Nonsense. They are actively subverting our civilization into something that has ruined and continues to ruin innocent lives, and maybe my anger has gotten the better of me and caused me to brush up against "the Dark Side", but I want to hear their gurgling death rattle as justice is finally done them.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
Rush talking about that Des Moines Register crap where he talked up Sequester, here's some links about that story -

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/02/hey-remember-when-obama-told-the-des-moines-register-sequestration-would-happen-2590338.html)

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/ (http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/10/obama-told-des-moines-register-sequestration-will-happen-bush-tax-cuts-will-expire/)

Democrat-Media Complex already scrubbed the source clean -

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/Story_not_found)

So many lonely street lights, oh so many. . .

And no one deserves to bend them more than the so called journalists. The media are nothing but an information mafia, deliberately working hand-in-hand with the political Left to give the citizenry what Pandora calls the mushroom treatment (kept in the dark and sh*t on). When the time comes, I can already hear the protestations that they're merely apolitical and disinterested reporters, innocent bystanders if you will. Nonsense. They are actively subverting our civilization into something that has ruined and continues to ruin innocent lives, and maybe my anger has gotten the better of me and caused me to brush up against "the Dark Side", but I want to hear their gurgling death rattle as justice is finally done them.

I will not argue with any of that, it is all 100% true.

Oh, and regarding the lying POSOTUS, Mean Gene finally admits the truth -

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sperling-admits-obama-misled-debate-president-did-propose-sequester_705015.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sperling-admits-obama-misled-debate-president-did-propose-sequester_705015.html)

Nobody in the MFM reporting this though.  No mercy for them.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Predator Don on March 03, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. Now by the way, if Congress refuses to act in the way I think they should, then I'm just going to do it myself.  Did I mention I'm not a dictator?"


Someone with more skills than I needs to link Nixon saying he is not a crook with obama attempting to fool the people that he is not a dictator.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2013, 05:46:36 PM
Don't forget to add the press clips showing them gleeful for Nixon blood in contrast to being gleeful for Obama, uhh, gravy.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Pandora on March 04, 2013, 01:50:38 AM
"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. Now by the way, if Congress refuses to act in the way I think they should, then I'm just going to do it myself.  Did I mention I'm not a dictator?"


Someone with more skills than I needs to link Nixon saying he is not a crook with obama attempting to fool the people that he is not a dictator.


How's this?

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/OBAMANOTADICTATOR.jpg)

H/T Instapundit
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2013, 07:07:57 AM
That's a start!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Lisa in PA on March 04, 2013, 07:15:31 AM
Just wanted to report in that my daughter's Girl Scout Troop Meth Sale went smoothly!  In fact, it went so well they are talking about taking advantage of their youth (12-13 year olds) to become drug mules to get their "Financial Responsibility" badge!  ::thumbsup::

(Just kidding, Jay Leno did a fake White House commercial saying that day care centers will now be run by homeless drifters since they had to let all the teachers go, and that the Girl Scouts will have to switch from selling cookies to selling crystal meth.  It was pretty funny, but I don't know how to find a link to it.)
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Predator Don on March 04, 2013, 12:59:38 PM
"I'm not a dictator, I'm the president. Now by the way, if Congress refuses to act in the way I think they should, then I'm just going to do it myself.  Did I mention I'm not a dictator?"


Someone with more skills than I needs to link Nixon saying he is not a crook with obama attempting to fool the people that he is not a dictator.


How's this?

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/OBAMANOTADICTATOR.jpg)

H/T Instapundit


What is it with dems and the use of thier finger.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 05, 2013, 06:15:22 AM
What is it with dems and the use of thier finger.

Short answer?

If they have to emphasize their words with gestures, it means they are really lying their asses off (more so than normal)!

Plus, I think there is an unconscious desire to tweak those judgemental conservatives (and other non-libiots) with some judgemental finger-pointing.

Remember, a libiot is essentially a souless creature without any form of conscious or moral compass as it is understood my us normal folks, so they cannot experience any cognitive dissonance from any action committed by themselves or their kind.
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Pandora on March 05, 2013, 07:15:14 PM
Quote
The White House announced Tuesday that it was canceling all public tours of the president’s home because of the sequester spending cuts.

“Due to staffing reductions resulting from sequestration, we regret to inform you that White House Tours will be canceled effective Saturday, March 9, 2013 until further notice. Unfortunately, we will not be able to reschedule affected tours,” the White House said in an email.

... At the Capitol, staffers who use the building’s West Front entrance that looks out on the National Mall were told Tuesday that door would be closed as of next week in order to save money.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/#ixzz2MiYnFdMy (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/#ixzz2MiYnFdMy)

Really?  Because of sequestration?  The White House is exempted, including the Obongos and their lavish entertainment and travel budget, from any sequestration cuts.

To inflict pain, that's the new MO.

Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: benb61 on March 05, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
Kinda like "the beatings will continue till moral improves".
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: John Florida on March 05, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
Quote
The White House announced Tuesday that it was canceling all public tours of the president’s home because of the sequester spending cuts.

“Due to staffing reductions resulting from sequestration, we regret to inform you that White House Tours will be canceled effective Saturday, March 9, 2013 until further notice. Unfortunately, we will not be able to reschedule affected tours,” the White House said in an email.

... At the Capitol, staffers who use the building’s West Front entrance that looks out on the National Mall were told Tuesday that door would be closed as of next week in order to save money.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/#ixzz2MiYnFdMy (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/5/more-sequester-pain-white-house-cancels-tours/#ixzz2MiYnFdMy)

Really?  Because of sequestration?  The White House is exempted, including the Obongos and their lavish entertainment and travel budget, from any sequestration cuts.

To inflict pain, that's the new MO.



  So the poor kid and the sick kid suffer equally?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 05, 2013, 09:14:25 PM

Yeah, and here it is from the man who whispers in Rush's ear:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/thomas-sowell-will-obama-turn-the-united-states-into-the-worlds-largest-banana-republic/article/2523217 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/thomas-sowell-will-obama-turn-the-united-states-into-the-worlds-largest-banana-republic/article/2523217)
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2013, 07:11:19 AM
With tHugo gone who else is to be the banana republic dictator to look up to?
Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 06, 2013, 08:00:58 AM
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Title: Re: Obama’s first sequester move:
Post by: warpmine on March 06, 2013, 11:18:26 AM
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::thumbsup::