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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Libertas on April 01, 2020, 08:06:46 AM
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Come on...where's the last straw for some people? MY Rubicon was crossed a long damn time ago!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-iran-complete-first-instex-transaction-successfully-dodging-us-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-iran-complete-first-instex-transaction-successfully-dodging-us-sanctions)
The Euro's are now OPENLY defying us and siding with our enemies...just WTF does it take for some people to realize that subsidizing the security of these ingrates one second or one cent longer is STUPID?!?!?!
Seriously...let's just launch everything now and end it all quickly...it would be a mercy compared to this slow convulsing death!!!
::cussing:: ::outrage:: ::gaah:: ::mooning:: foottapping ::doublebird:: ::bashing:: ::pullhair:: ::saywhat:: ::machinegun::
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The EU heads have to keep power some how. The unelected run the whole shebang.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dangerous-idea-jeopardizing-europe-russia-warns-us-against-nukes-poland (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dangerous-idea-jeopardizing-europe-russia-warns-us-against-nukes-poland)
Maria and the rest of the perpetually butthurt mongrels and their sycophants need to untwist their panties and realize these are merely words...words to the effect that we're tired of carrying dead euro asses on our backs...and the realization that those once oppressed and murdered by past Russian regimes are more worthy allies for us than the crap we've rescued twice...
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But no, the mongrels see all of Europe as theirs...well, they can't have it all so piss off.
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I am very much anti communist as this evil ideology has killed hundreds of millions. When the USSR collapsed and the Russian military withdrew to the East I was glad. NATO (mostly US) could withdraw West or at least draw down forces some as an act of good will. Instead we moved East. The Russians have the right to not want our tanks on their border.
Then the US organizes a coup in Ukraine. Now this. The US got butt hurt about Russian nukes in Cuba but we expect them to allow US nukes in Poland? The countries upholding Christianity get slammed by the EU. Russia allows prayer in public schools.
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Starting to look like the Middle East...the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Romanians...free Ukrainians...free Baltic people...best find a new home...as rooting for the Euros and Russians to nuke each other seems the best outcome...more likely the Euros become the slaves of the Russians since their battle strategy begins and ends with surrender anyway...same result for the free people...best GTFO while the getting is good...
And screw Scandinavia...they mostly go with the Euros and Islaminal invaders too anyway, eff 'em...eff 'em all.
Time for choices to have consequences...and the matching mass graves and misery...done caring...don't give a single frack. They all deserve each other...last one standing among the charred ruins of an obliterated continent is the winner...enjoy your spoils!
::mooning::
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More proof your military alliance isn't worth the paper it is written on...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-probe-near-direct-clash-french-turkish-warships-libya (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-probe-near-direct-clash-french-turkish-warships-libya)
::mooning::
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This is one of the most upsetting international news articles I have read recently. The US and NATO destroying Libya was one of Barry's worst moves. The UK house of commons wanted to know why the UK got involved in that sh*t show so they did a detailed study. There was no good reason and the given reasons were crap.
So now France and Turkey are facing off over Libya? Turkey has no business in Libya. Turkey has also been making more trouble over Cyprus and oil drilling rights.
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This is one of the most upsetting international news articles I have read recently. The US and NATO destroying Libya was one of Barry's worst moves. The UK house of commons wanted to know why the UK got involved in that sh*t show so they did a detailed study. There was no good reason and the given reasons were crap.
So now France and Turkey are facing off over Libya? Turkey has no business in Libya. Turkey has also been making more trouble over Cyprus and oil drilling rights.
And recently another large incursion into Iraq slaughtering Kurds...
Why we put up with the fricken Turks and Euroclowns anymore I just do not understand...the former are led by a self-pimping POS wanting to restore the Ottoman Empire and the latter are just simps eager to be vassals of Russia...
The most fair thing I can say about the Turks is they are competing with Russia for control of countries in the region...frankly all three can kick each others asses silly for all I care...the latter being zip. Short of keeping The Ditch and PG free and open...and no hog-piling on Israel who just wants to exists unmolested...all the rest can hang!
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This is one of the most upsetting international news articles I have read recently. The US and NATO destroying Libya was one of Barry's worst moves. The UK house of commons wanted to know why the UK got involved in that sh*t show so they did a detailed study. There was no good reason and the given reasons were crap.
So now France and Turkey are facing off over Libya? Turkey has no business in Libya. Turkey has also been making more trouble over Cyprus and oil drilling rights.
And recently another large incursion into Iraq slaughtering Kurds...
Why we put up with the fricken Turks and Euroclowns anymore I just do not understand...the former are led by a self-pimping POS wanting to restore the Ottoman Empire and the latter are just simps eager to be vassals of Russia...
The most fair thing I can say about the Turks is they are competing with Russia for control of countries in the region...frankly all three can kick each others asses silly for all I care...the latter being zip. Short of keeping The Ditch and PG free and open...and no hog-piling on Israel who just wants to exists unmolested...all the rest can hang!
I do not care either. Every problem in the world is not our problem. I turned against NATO when they moved East toward Russia.
I used to listen to the Duran even though they are long winded. I may start again as they may cover this story about Turkey and Libya and France. I was surprised to learn that Ghaddafi was a pretty good leader for the region. I do not know much about Assad but he is better than AQ and ISIS who9m the US was backing.
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The Duran had a 30 minute video on the Libya mess
2:46 / 26:38
#Libya #Turkey #Greece
Libya and the East Med Pipeline | Part 1| The Duran
17,139 views•Jun 13, 2020
https://youtu.be/fjjvu--VYv8
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What a CF! France is on one side and Turkey is on the other, both NATO members. We can thank Obama for destroying Libya.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/how_did_russia_get_into_a_proxy_war_with_turkey_in_libya.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/how_did_russia_get_into_a_proxy_war_with_turkey_in_libya.html)
June 22, 2020
How did Russia get into a proxy war with Turkey in Libya?
By Nikola Mikovic
The Libyan proxy war over the control of the country's oil and gas reserves could intensify if Russia and Turkey do not make a deal on the future of the strategically important city of Sirte.
The Moscow-backed Libyan National Army (LNA) and the Ankara-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) are actively preparing for a battle that could be a turning point in this phase of the conflict.
The two nations are not the only foreign powers involved in the Libyan civil war. Libya is a de facto partitioned country where the LNA, backed by Russia, Greece, Egypt, France, and the United Arab Emirates, controls most of the Libyan territory, including the majority of oilfields and gas reservoirs.
The GNA, which is the U.N.-recognized government, is backed by Turkey, Italy, and Qatar. Its forces recently made significant progress by regaining areas south and east of the capital, Tripoli.
The two sides are expected to get involved in fierce fighting for control over the oil-rich province of Sirte, which is the route that one has to control to dominate the ports of Sidra, Ras Lanuf, Marsa al-Brega and Zuwetina, where 11 oil pipelines and three gas conduits reach the Mediterranean coast.
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It is a sh!tshow...
None of those clowns should be in Libya...
And the Libyan people if they had any sense would tell both LNA & GNA and their allies to FO...
And yeah B. Hussein O and his BS Arab Spring made things exponentially worse...but he did what sugardaddy Soros and the DeepState/CronyCapitalist globalists wanted...
So everybody on the planet has cause to rise up and slay everyone associated with the cabalists...
Sh!tshow extraordinaire...
Welcome to latter day Earth...
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How did Russia get into a proxy war with Turkey in Libya?
How?
Hillary.
Ha!
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Heh, this is good!
"The United States is defending a lot of countries that are delinquent in what they are supposed to be paying," the president said. Confirming that the US would be withdrawing troops from Germany, Trump claimed that Germany owed "close to a trillion dollars” to Nato "when you add it all up."
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-claims-germany-owes-1-trillion-nato-obligations (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-claims-germany-owes-1-trillion-nato-obligations)
Likely understated...plus, what did they ever repay for The Marshall Plan?
And sure...if I were a dogface I'd rather be in Poland than Germany too...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-military-shuffle-germany-poland-imminent (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-military-shuffle-germany-poland-imminent)
...and no I don't care if the Rooskies piss themselves and go on rants...
...but the better FU to Germany is a full pull out and a redeployment stateside.
This is a tough one for me because NATO is no longer needed...but Eastern Europe knows what domination and oppression is like and I sympathize with them...there has to be a different kind of agreement with them that doesn't require significant troops.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-suspends-role-nato-naval-mission-outraged-over-turkish-aggression (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-suspends-role-nato-naval-mission-outraged-over-turkish-aggression)
OK, let's cheer them on!
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Article 5 anxiety? Just STFU and pick a side, schmuck!
::popcorn::
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Constant state of outrage.......how Continental. ::effu::
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I find this highly compelling and dare I say exciting...but also a bit annoying that I didn't see this angle developing and instead learn of it from Russophile Tom who's constantly removing Putin from his chin...
But, the central logic of the end to this means seems quite tantalizing...
And so Nordstream 2 became a big geopolitical football because Merkel saw, as well, the opportunity to bring the recalcitrant Poles and Baltics under her control as well, solidifying long-term EU plans to engulf all of Euope to Russia’s borders.
Nordstream 2 would nominally replace Ukrainian gas supplies and she could set Germany up to be the gas transit hub, supporting political power emanating from Brussels.
This would give her leverage over Poland, who are trapped between their hatred of the Russians and their unwillingness, rightfully, to submit to Germany.
But Merkel, ever the deft three-faced keeper of the status quo, worked with Putin to secure gas flows through Ukraine for another five years, allaying the worst of Poland’s fears while they have courted Trump to bring in over-priced U.S. LNG.
But from the beginning, Nordstream 2 becomes a different animal geopolitically the moment Trump comes to power. Because Trump is opposed to the EU’s consolidating power over Europe while also sucking the U.S. dry on trade and defense.
He’s made this abundantly clear.
Since the beginning of the year Trump has ratcheted up the pressure on both China and the EU. And the only way that makes any sense is if you are willing to see them as allies in undermining the U.S.’s global position.
This isn’t to say that the U.S.’s global position should remain as it is. Far be it for me, of all people, to argue that. But with the insanity of the COVID-19 fake pandemic, the World Economic Forum’s plans for The Great Reset, and the fomenting a cultural revolution in the U.S. the stakes are now as high as they’ve ever been.
The Davos Crowd is making their big move to consolidate power in Europe. Trump is working with Boris Johnson in the U.K. to oppose that. That’s the simplified version of the chess board.
And this is why I think Trump refuses to give up on stopping Nordstream 2. He’s seen the depths to which The Davos Crowd will go to implement this radical change and he’s forcing the moment to its crisis, as T.S. Eliot put it.
He’s making the choice very clear for Merkel and company. If you want Nordstream 2, suffer the consequences of having to do business without the U.S.
This isn’t about Russia anymore, at all. It’s about Germany and the future of the U.S. If Trump loses in November all of the work done to slow down this push for transnational technocratic oligarchy will end.
If he wins then the current policy sticks, the EU is forced to deal with the U.S. retrenching completely, pulling back on commitments to Europe while divorcing U.S. trade from China.
He may actually be courting lower U.S. dollar flow the world over and forcing Europe into real economic crisis by early next year.
This sanctions policy against Nordstream 2 is consistent with his ‘snap’ decision to pull troops out of Germany, his unilateral abrogation of both the INF treaty and the JCPOA while pressuring NATO to do more.
Merkel, meanwhile, is trying to run out the clock on both Trump and Brexit, as I talked about in my podcast from last week. She’s hoping that Trump will be defeated which will set things back to the way they were before him, force U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson to knuckle under in trade deal talks and establish the primacy of the EU as the center of Western power.
Putin, for his part, doesn’t care who he deals with in the long run. He can’t afford to. He has to play the cards on the table in front of him with the people in power, since Russia is still a minor player but with big potential.
For Trump, I believe he sees Nordstream 2 as the perfect wedge issue to break open the stalemate over NATO and cut Germany loose or bring Merkel to heel.
This next round of sanctions will target the companies involved directly in the pipeline. Germany can’t afford not to finish Nordstream 2. So, we are headed for an epic clash here.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-using-nord-stream-2-exit-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-using-nord-stream-2-exit-nato)
Well, the arrogant Eurocrats led by the nose by Merkel are not going to relent...screw Germany, screw Brussels, screw NATO...screw 'em all.
We and Britain and anybody sane left on the continent can be pals...we don't need the EuroSocialist elite or the drain on our resources any longer...time to end this stupidity.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/message-turkey-france-egypt-conduct-joint-naval-exercises-mediterranean (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/message-turkey-france-egypt-conduct-joint-naval-exercises-mediterranean)
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ca9754a489a927154eebbe28ed9d9edd/tenor.gif)
3 equal parts of morons the sum of which equals the pansies posting this drivel...
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How nice. ::bus::
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More reason to pull out of a ungrateful Western Europe...
Caution - Lapdog Euro Russophile perspective - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nordstream-2-splits-western-world (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nordstream-2-splits-western-world)
#6 for certain & #7 (as far as Trump policy if followed) is BS...and this one is a complete joke - [8] Western Europe has long striven to emancipate itself from American guardianship.
::hysterical::
Right! LOL! OK, put down the crack pipe or correct whatever the hell your damage is and listen! Those feckless spoiled little Eurosh!ts cannot emancipate their heads from their rectums! If they were self-sufficient economically, militarily and politically WE WOULD NOT NEED TO BE THERE AFTER WE SAVED THEIR ASSES IN WWII AND REPAIRED THEIR WAR TORN NATIONS ON OUR DIME! Still, we have to shame them into paying their paltry NATO dues...President Trump just a day or two ago had to verbally slap that Stasi slut Merkel upside the head for stiffing us AGAIN!
Oh, and as far as this Baltic crap goes...real safe passages there, calm weather, soft bottoms...totally impossible for natural (or assisted natural) disasters to occur...good luck with your una-brow bride.
::mooning::
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Remember this?
https://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2016/03/29/is-trump-right-about-nato-n2140070
One of the better articles ever penned by Pat...and a reminder of who blew it...GHWB by betraying the Reagan Revolution cannot be understated and I think most people would agree that even if GHWB had not stabbed us in the back in his first term he definitely would have in his second...as it is the NATO issue was dumped onto the lap of a geopolitical novice more interested in being an attention-seeking Diva by day and a lecherous fiend at night...leaving to his handlers to turn NATO into another entity to corrupt and manipulate. By the time GWB came along it didn't matter...the template was in place and the uni-party pukes held sway...and the illegitimate successor turned all he touched into sh!t and weaponized uni-party statists on a scale never before dreamed of...
Time to start pulling plugs...and removing crutches with as much force as was used to make people accept them.
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Were supposed to help not foot the bill for every other country in Europe.
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I found this explaining the situation with Greece and Turkey. In summary, a real CF.
https://youtu.be/kCpL9JATq9I
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I found this explaining the situation with Greece and Turkey. In summary, a real CF.
https://youtu.be/kCpL9JATq9I
This is just the new problem between Greece and the Turks this time the Greeks are bringing in the neighbors the remember what happened the last time they went at it. This is one we want no part of let the EU deal with it.
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Turkey sucks...the central EU powers are rotten to the core...we need to sh!tcan NATO and find new international partners we can rely on...individually or whatever doesn't matter...but the old crap needs to be discarded...
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Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France has been fighting Turkey over Greece.
https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
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Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France has been fighting Turkey over Greece.
https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
Why could it possibly matter to us?
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Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France has been fighting Turkey over Greece.
https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
Why could it possibly matter to us?
It doesn't
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Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France has been fighting Turkey over Greece.
https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
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Why could it possibly matter to us?
It doesn't.
I totally agree.
I do not GAF.
The military industrial complex will try to make this all about being soft on Putin if Russia sides with (Christian) Armenia against (Muslim,NATO) Turkey. Remember the hysteria when Trump proposed pulling out of Syria.
Also, some Russians may have poisoned each other. Who cares?
I know most here do not like Putin but I do. He saved Syria from being over run by US armed ISIS and AQ.
If you live long enough you see everything. The cavalry riding over the hill to save civilization are Russians.
F*ck me.
You can pray in Russian public schools but not in the US.Double f*ck me.
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I see no "calvary", no nation-state or pan-whatever outfit being civilizations savior...in the end we are the savior or we are dead...it's that simple. For a long time...until the corrupt DeepState-socialist cabal contaminated everything America had been that global savior...and got the middle finger for it every time...we should do what Rome could not...downsize the empire, abandon the ignorant mean and stupid to die in their own stinking mess...if they cry to us for help remind them the finger they gave us is returned in kind...
And in a related note...
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,15175.new.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,15175.new.html#new)
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Not long ago the Turdkeys held naval exercises with France and Egypt...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-escalation-turkey-renews-gas-exploration-greece-vows-military-escort (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-escalation-turkey-renews-gas-exploration-greece-vows-military-escort)
...they still on Turdkey's side?
It all needs to go!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/turkey-threatens-armenia-direct-military-intervention-karabakh-war (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/turkey-threatens-armenia-direct-military-intervention-karabakh-war)
Whatever...kill each other...or shut up.
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I can't remember if I posted this before. Another reason NATO need not exist.
Crimea held a referendum in which about 85% of voters turned out, who voted 97% to rejoin Russia.
The US has sanctioned Russia for this "invasion."
The video below was taken after Crimea rejoined Russia.
https://youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM
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Yeah...swell.
Which is why I argue to use The Putin Doctrine on Cuba...ask the Cuban people if they would like to be a territory of America or remain under communist oppression...the answer would be overwhelming...which is why the Cuban government would kill anybody trying to conduct a fair poll or for participating in a fair poll...
So, I say invade those bastards, kill every communist you find...liberate Cuba for the Cuban people...I bet that would meet with monumental approval by the oppressed...
Git-R-Done!
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Turkey had a problem. They had imported and armed lots of Jihadis and sent them into Syria to fight Assad.
What to do with them? They do no want these rabid animals in Turkey. So they are disposing of them to get killed all over the place including likely Armenia and Libya for sure.
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DeepState driven...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-expands-nord-stream-2-sanctions-germany-vows-pipeline-completion-not-if-when (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-expands-nord-stream-2-sanctions-germany-vows-pipeline-completion-not-if-when)
Hopefully, after the election...this ends, NATO ends and Europe is off our teat FOREVER...and we can kick those UN assholes out!
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Yes the NS2 pipeline will make Germany depend more on Russian gas. Who cares?
The US is looking more and more like a big bully. The Germans want cheap gas. The Russians want German money.
I thought trade made war less likely.
To make the US look even worse, Germany has agreed to accept some US LNG to buy off the US objections.
Now the Russians will get paid to lay the pipe, not the Swiss company. Now the US wants to sanction companies servicing the ships or pipeline. More work for Russians?
The US is a superpower with ADD. We will walk away from Ukraine after we destabilized their country with the coup.
Ukrainians will wish they had jumped in bed with Russia before this is all over.
The Duran guys have been writing and talking about Ukraine and even the Bidens for at least 5 years now.
They estimate that at least $40 billion of US, IMF, and world bank money went to Ukraine but much went back to US and EU crooks via money laundering routes. Ukraine is worse off than before the US 'helped' them.
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“From the US point of view, Nord Stream 2 endangers Europe because it makes it dependent on Russian gas and endangers Ukraine - which in my opinion worries many Germans,” Pompeo said weeks ago.
So why not let the EU and Germany worry about this?
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Folks, it might matter now...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/exit-nato-turks-hold-anti-american-protest-outside-incirlik-base-over-armenian (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/exit-nato-turks-hold-anti-american-protest-outside-incirlik-base-over-armenian)
Come on, take the bait...set the hook...
Could be one way out of this stupid useless waste of time!
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(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/001-ben-garrison-nato-02.jpg)
It's time....
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/merkel-flips-bidens-protest-buy-putins-gas (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/merkel-flips-bidens-protest-buy-putins-gas)
...end NATO, cut Europe loose...
...but JoeFraud cannot do that, his DeepState masters will not allow it...they would rather set the world on fire than to yield anything...
They believe they can live on ashes...
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They believe they can live on ashes...
anything they touch is ashes and they think that's enough
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See? DeepState calling the shots as I said all along...
https://www.oann.com/white-house-says-nato-will-launch-ambitious-security-initiatives/ (https://www.oann.com/white-house-says-nato-will-launch-ambitious-security-initiatives/)
...another re-branding to keep the unnecessary around for the greater glory of the DeepState and the war and death it craves...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/spot-odd-one-out-nato-defense-expenditure (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/spot-odd-one-out-nato-defense-expenditure)
Pathetic.
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China recently killed 3 million worldwide through their carelessness so Biden will get tough with Putin.
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He couldn't get tough with a soiled napkin...
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I was watching The Duran. They said the G7 group failed to be negative on China but were on Russia. They said Russia is the traditional boogie man and China is far away. This reinforced the Russian idea to allign with China.
This is not covered much. The Ukraine president has been shutting down opposition TV stations and even threw his main political opponent in jail. The govt has been forcing conversion from Russian to Ukranian language and declared Russians to not be indigenious to Ukraine. Contrary to what we hear in the MSM the Ukrainians start most of their recent troubles.
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I was watching The Duran. They said the G7 group failed to be negative on China but were on Russia. They said Russia is the traditional boogie man and China is far away. This reinforced the Russian idea to allign with China.
This is not covered much. The Ukraine president has been shutting down opposition TV stations and even threw his main political opponent in jail. The govt has been forcing conversion from Russian to Ukranian language and declared Russians to not be indigenious to Ukraine. Contrary to what we hear in the MSM the Ukrainians start most of their recent troubles.
To be fair...so did Castro's bastard Trudeau and Putin too.
But Russia is the boogeyman for Marxists, they must think they betrayed Marxism too easily...like that economic, moral and totally failed experiment had a chance! And the like Marxist China and fear them because they are arming up and expanding reach every second while the West grabs itself and pretends the weather, wokism and imaginary white supremacists are their principle threat...
Yeah, Communist China is far away and not an issue...
::bus::
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Talked about this in this thread and on the EU collapse thread...IMO it belongs here first because in terms of American priorities (ours, not TeamFraud/DeepState!) getting us the frick out of the unnecessary and too-heavily US taxpayer subsidized NATO comes first! EU collapse is certain, from a host of issues it is exacerbating simultaneously...while the corrupt compromised DeepState-owned leadership in the US ramps up its coordinated multi-pronged forced mass suicide schemes...if NATO can be let go it may buy some time back here...a little anyway.
Otherwise, adding to the list of suicidal policies is being held hostage to a obsolete agreement that would force us to defend the Eurotards from being gobbled whole by an enemy they collectively surrendered sovereignty to even if they are too stupid to realize or too gutless to admit it.
Issued several warnings it would happen, and it has...and it will happen again, whenever Russia wants to yank the leash on a wayward pet!
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/european-nat-gas-prices-spike-unprecedented-levels-russian-supply-collapses (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/european-nat-gas-prices-spike-unprecedented-levels-russian-supply-collapses)
Facility this, facility that...blah blah blah...
The message is clear - "Heel, bitch!".
Wouldn't be surprised if a new Euro-led Iranian nuke (raw) deal suddenly appears in the coming weeks...
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http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62541 (http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62541)
Done deal.
Fine, the Eurotards picked their master, game over.
There is literally no valid reason for the US to be NATO any more...we have more connection and more pressing issues in the Pacific...screw Europe...bailed their useless asses out twice and get kicked in the balls as thanks...fine...
The Euro's won't end NATO as long as we are in it and stupid enough to keep subsidizing most of it...so it has to be the US to end it...but the demented muppet His Fraudulency is impotent to do anything...State is probably unwilling blow their fellow statists across the pond away and the Pentagon is filled with morons who think it is a valuable battlespace to keep when it no longer is strategically relevant...and the spooks at Langley and their pals in the IC probably fear being cut off from nominal allies...when in fact in this arena there is enough cross-purpose friendly-fire to render to term ally into mush...
Without a full flushing of all of the detritus this useless waste is an anchor around our neck!!!
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Funny...fellow backstabbing statist bastards accusing each other of their shared sins...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/france-accuses-biden-being-worse-trump-uk-aussie-defense-pact-sinks-sub-deal (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/france-accuses-biden-being-worse-trump-uk-aussie-defense-pact-sinks-sub-deal)
As for the comments by FM Le Drian...Trump was correct to ask you EuroBums to pay your own way...that isn't "backstabbing" you stunted snail, that is 100% truth and the fact that you EuroBums expect to be carried by the US shows what a bunch of useless crybaby losers y'all are!
So...va te faire foutre! ::vafancoul::
ETA - Jack P correctly notes the win to Chi-Com hegemony via TeamFraud....
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1438459119577481221 (https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1438459119577481221)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/operation-go-it-alone-disenchanted-europeans-may-build-their-own-army (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/operation-go-it-alone-disenchanted-europeans-may-build-their-own-army)
::hysterical::
Yeah, right! They will suck us dry to the very last drop and probably keep trying after the host dies...
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Gazprom...Rosneft...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-about-lose-its-natural-gas-export-monopoly (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-about-lose-its-natural-gas-export-monopoly)
BFD!
Hopefully the Afghanistan humiliation will end this bogus alliance...
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Between the waste of subsidizing Eurotards with 67.583% of their 2021 defense budget (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-much-nato-countries-spend-defense) and the twisted gift that is the Pan-Islamist megalomaniac known as Recep Tayyip Erdogan (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-alarms-nato-allies-putin-agreed-jointly-produce-jet-engines-warships) the time is NOW to cut NATO ties off...I mean if the DemCom's and RINO/AINO/#NeverTrumpers really despise Russia then they have to terminate this farce!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/putin-blasts-accusations-russia-weaponizing-natural-gas-politically-motivated-blather (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/putin-blasts-accusations-russia-weaponizing-natural-gas-politically-motivated-blather)
Man, oil and gas are not weapons...
How do you say that without snickering?
::laughonfloor::
Go ahead, screw the Euromorons...sure wish we could cut 'em loose...
::gaah::
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I think the EU blaming Russia is crap and even Merkel said that. Russia wanted long term contracts. Most countries wanted to buy on the spot/current market. They got what they wanted.
Russia is fulfilling all contractual obligations. Germany shut down their nuke plants and relied on wind power, which is not reliable. I read that the wind is not blowing much right now.
Now European countries want to buy on the spot market and bitch about the price and expect Russia to sell as much as they want on a moments notice. Russia wanted to be part of Europe but that upset the US military industrial complex and some politicians in the EU. There were embargoes on trading with Russia, which screwed and will screw Ukraine very, very badly. So Russia buddied up to China and is selling them gas.
In case people forgot, mere months ago, many EU countries and the US tried to stop the Nordstream 2 pipeline from being completed. Now they want an infinite supply of gas and they want it now.
BTW Germany begged Russia to build the new pipeline as they realized that shutting down the nukes made them short on energy. Then Russia built the pipeline and got a ration of sh*t at the last minute.
Ukraine had the habit of not paying for their nat gas bills and siphoning off gas meant for Europe. They called this 'reverse flow.' Ha! This pissed off the Russians.
Hungary recently bought gas from Russia. This pissed of the EU who is so power mad they want only the EU to buy gas, not individual countries.
https://youtu.be/H8ZXLw47cfQ (https://youtu.be/H8ZXLw47cfQ)
Germany demolishes nuclear power plant in a controlled explosion (cooling towers).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/merkel-dismisses-russian-role-in-europe-s-energy-price-crisis (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/merkel-dismisses-russian-role-in-europe-s-energy-price-crisis)
Merkel Dismisses Russian Role in Europe’s Energy Price Crisis
By Arne Delfs
October 6, 2021, 9:29 AM CDT
Outgoing German Chancellor Angela Merkel dismissed charges that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is partly to blame for the record spikes in European gas prices.
“To my knowledge, there are no orders where Russia has said we won’t deliver it to you, especially not with regard to the pipeline in Ukraine,” Merkel told reporters Wednesday. “Russia can only deliver gas on the basis of contractual obligations, and not just only like that.”
https://voxday.net/2021/10/08/dont-blame-russia-if-europe-freezes/ (https://voxday.net/2021/10/08/dont-blame-russia-if-europe-freezes/)
Don’t Blame Russia if Europe Freezes
Even Angela Merkel has admitted that the European natural gas shortage is not Russia’s fault:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has rejected suggestions that the increased price of gas is due to Russian policy. Instead she has pointed the finger at the EU’s own approach asking whether the bloc could have acted differently.
Speaking on Wednesday, Merkel noted that Russia has never refused to deliver gas and has fulfilled its contractual obligations.
“That’s why we should ask the question: was enough gas ordered, or is the high price at the moment maybe the reason for not ordering so much?” Merkel asked, according to London’s Financial Times.
The European Union has sought to move gas trading to the spot market in recent years, whereas Russia has consistently preferred long-term contracts, often as long as 25 years. Russian President Vladimir Putin has pointed at the reluctance of the bloc to sign longer deals as a cause for rising prices.
So, the Europeans didn’t order enough natural gas to meet their needs, shut down their nuclear plants, and chose to rely upon green energy production that has fallen woefully short of requirements. But since Putin refuses to sell them additional gas at contract prices at the same time they are trying to deny Russia’s ability to deliver gas via the new Nordstream 2 pipeline, this is somehow supposed to be all Russia’s fault.
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Of course it's a Euro problem...they chose poorly - green crap like windmills, ending coal, exiting nuclear...and chose Russia to contract with exclusively...and if the market is pricey well golly, life's hard...
Fine, swell...I as a person don't care...and from a national point of view they made their choice...I just want out of NATO...but with the Marxists and DeepState calling the shots that won't happen...which is also not my problem especially now that the representative republic, voting, laws...are dead...
If I had the Euro's by the short-hairs I would be pulling hairs too if they suck at contracting and excel and mismanaging their economy...
They have the master they deserve...we should bow out...but are captives of our own corrupt illegitimate despots...
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What I want to know is why the hell does Biden et. al have any say in what pipelines Russia builds -- over there?!
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The EU is power mad. They are telling Poland how to run their courts. Poland caved but recently may have pushed back in general. The EU wants to form their own army. Now they want only the EU to buy gas from Russia, giving them more power over other countries.
I do not recall the details, but the EU wants to withhold money from Poland and maybe Hungary based on internal politics in those countries and the laws they passed.
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Yes, Hungary, Poland and the Czechs like their sovereignty in most things...gets EU Grand Wizards pissy an then they try penalizing them to change their laws and they say "go spit"...next, they start threatening some more...
And go ahead, start your own damn continental military WITHOUT THE U.S.!!! But hey, as like you bullies and Brexit and SOP with former Soviet slaves states...not before you pay us back for decades of carrying your deadbeat asses!!!
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I don't need any more proof that the DeepState, Pentagon and DemCom's & DecptiCons cannot see past their Imperial noses...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pentagon-chief-stress-open-door-nato-visit-ukraine-georgia (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pentagon-chief-stress-open-door-nato-visit-ukraine-georgia)
...nor do I need any more proof these morons cannot see the unsustainability of massive deficit spending to keep the Empire alive...
This is a European concern, they have the means and the proximity to be in charge of their own security and manage their relationships with their neighbors.
Not one of these assholes can provide one legitimate reason why we have to carry these idiots one more second...because the "Russia" thing is dead...they pose no direct threat to us, and if they want to suckle these brats or any other nutcase, who cares?
And redline my ass...so far Putin is all bluster no action...if he would put up a little more resistance maybe the idiots would find retreat more appealing...after all its pretty obvious what the JoeFraud junta responds to by now, eh?
As for this...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/washington-or-moscow-decision-time-erdogan-northern-syria (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/washington-or-moscow-decision-time-erdogan-northern-syria)
...this Turkish Russophile is making a simplistic either /or choice...which is BS! Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what the megalomaniac Pan-Islamic Suleiman-wannabe Erdogan does...he can suckle the Russian Bear too, don't care! The Kurdish issue totally illustrates the hypocrisy of the Turks & Russians...the Kurds are pro-western (therefor must be opposed in principle by Russians) and they are friendly with Jews and Israel (therefor hated by Turks and Russians)...Syrians hate Kurds because they think they are independent people and not wards of Syria (not much different than Saddam's Sunni Iraq back in the day)...if Russia lived up to its lip-service to self-determination and not a selfish bastard it could check Turkey's hatred and Syria's hostility...but no, they value picking off Turkey from the West (yeah, more Erdogan's direction there, Ivan!) and lazily conceding to Syrian desires for the sake of cash flow over something so trivial as standing on principles. Goddamned Russians are infuriating...so much promise, so little desire to rise to it...they default back to their base desires...they are the Ferengi's of our world...only the Rules of Acquisition matter.
And this...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-suspends-diplomatic-mission-nato-retaliation-spy-accusations (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-suspends-diplomatic-mission-nato-retaliation-spy-accusations)
Oh goody...more diplomatic temper tantrums...gosh, they never tried that...ahh...umm...for a few months or so... ::laughonfloor::
Kiska! (Rus derogatory feline term for a female organ...)
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::outrage::
So sick of these infantile EuroSocialist spoiled brats!
Trump made a few mistakes...trusting any career stooge like Wray, Barr et al, not pardoning Assange, not sacking Pence and not unilaterally removing us from the effing Euro brats!!!
Thus there's a desire for a more independent force that can deploy rapidly without seeking broader US and NATO approval first, or going through NATO hurdles.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-launch-eu-wide-military-force-more-european-states-frustrated-afghan-debacle (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-launch-eu-wide-military-force-more-european-states-frustrated-afghan-debacle)
Lousy ::cussing:: ::cussing:: low-life lazy ::cussing:: ::cussing:: bastards!
Stand on your own...end NATO!!!
But no, why would they with a DeepState puppet like JoeFraud and his masters powerless to stop them...those fusterclucks do not care if they are used and end-runned...they think this is swell, probably think somehow this enhances their shadow power...
This is the worst nightmare...the seemingly endless slow-motion circling of the drain on so very many fronts...nothing able to stop the inevitable...
THIS SUCKS!!!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-outraged-after-german-defense-minister-advocates-first-use-nuke-policy-against (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-outraged-after-german-defense-minister-advocates-first-use-nuke-policy-against)
Don't care...and no different from all other cold war holdover strategies that have not changed one iota...
And...to be clear...if America GTFO of NATO...no American nukes...Euro's would have to threaten with their own sh!t! :D
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China violated the agreement with Hong Kong, took over Tibet, took over parts of the South China Sea, and threatens to invade Taiwan.
Russia abandoned communism and withdrew their armed forces East.
BUT Russia, Russia, Russia........
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Yeah, but why they partner with Communist China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela...heck they are still Cuba's #1 creditor and talked of whipping their debt clean, but getting cheap offshore oil leases there and nickel mining may have something to do with it...
Right/wrong/indifferent...they make it too easy for people who want to bash them to bash them...
They never partner with sane people (not counting Euro's who deserve to get bent over on energy...)...
So, as much as people here are stuck on the cold war...it's no different with them and proxies they are paid to support with goods and services (credit, tech and weapons)...
No Saints anywhere...ZERO.
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Yeah, but why they partner with Communist China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela...heck they are still Cuba's #1 creditor and talked of whipping their debt clean, but getting cheap offshore oil leases there and nickel mining may have something to do with it...
Right/wrong/indifferent...they make it too easy for people who want to bash them to bash them...
They never partner with sane people (not counting Euro's who deserve to get bent over on energy...)...
So, as much as people here are stuck on the cold war...it's no different with them and proxies they are paid to support with goods and services (credit, tech and weapons)...
No Saints anywhere...ZERO.
I do not know of their reasons for all countries. I think they mostly ditched support for Cuba but like to have a place to dock the occasional war ship, when they venture that far from home. I recall they stopped giving subsidized oil to Cuba.
China was not their first choice as an ally. They wanted to be part of Europe but that would remove them as an enemy giving NATO a reason to exist. Then there was Russia gate and Ukraine gate, and trying to sabotage the gas pipeline at the last minute. Russia is now a conservative Christian nation.
I know they did not want an ISIS run nation in Syria so close to home as that would spill over into countries near Russia. Russia and Iran, not the US, fought ISIS BTW. The US, according to John Kerry, was happy to see ISIS advance on Damascus.
Some people who ID as progressives thought that Russia gate and Ukraine gate were a joke and a waste of time. They were pissed that the Dems wasted years on that instead of pushing progressive agendas.
Kim Iversen and the Moderate Rebels/Grayzone guys come to mind.
BTW Katy Halper and Matt Taibbi were fired by Rolling Stone as the "Useful Idiots" because they dared to question the propaganda that Assad was evil and should be deposed.
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Yeah, but why they partner with Communist China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela...heck they are still Cuba's #1 creditor and talked of whipping their debt clean, but getting cheap offshore oil leases there and nickel mining may have something to do with it...
Right/wrong/indifferent...they make it too easy for people who want to bash them to bash them...
They never partner with sane people (not counting Euro's who deserve to get bent over on energy...)...
So, as much as people here are stuck on the cold war...it's no different with them and proxies they are paid to support with goods and services (credit, tech and weapons)...
No Saints anywhere...ZERO.
I do not know of their reasons for all countries. I think they mostly ditched support for Cuba but like to have a place to dock the occasional war ship, when they venture that far from home. I recall they stopped giving subsidized oil to Cuba.
China was not their first choice as an ally. They wanted to be part of Europe but that would remove them as an enemy giving NATO a reason to exist. Then there was Russia gate and Ukraine gate, and trying to sabotage the gas pipeline at the last minute. Russia is now a conservative Christian nation.
I know they did not want an ISIS run nation in Syria so close to home as that would spill over into countries near Russia. Russia and Iran, not the US, fought ISIS BTW. The US, according to John Kerry, was happy to see ISIS advance on Damascus.
Some people who ID as progressives thought that Russia gate and Ukraine gate were a joke and a waste of time. They were pissed that the Dems wasted years on that instead of pushing progressive agendas.
Kim Iversen and the Moderate Rebels/Grayzone guys come to mind.
BTW Katy Halper and Matt Taibbi were fired by Rolling Stone as the "Useful Idiots" because they dared to question the propaganda that Assad was evil and should be deposed.
We can skip the conservative assertion for the moment...I think there is significant differences in what that really means between Americans and Russians and even Europeans...and focus on the one part I find the most problematic - Christian.
First, we have to recognize the medieval Great Schism that parted the Eastern Orthodox Church from the Catholic Church in 1054. The political motivations of authority (Pope vs Council of Bishops from East and West) gets overplayed (though I do not discount their importance) that overshadows the cultural impacts of the Greek speaking East and the Latin speaking West (a natural division resulting from the split of the over-extended Roman Imperial remnant) while the religious differences often get tossed in as mere contributors to the growing rift. The East was more mystical and philosophical in worship and the West more legalistic in a Roman sense to the practical and scholastic. There is differences in the incarnate Christ (Devine or Devine and Human), Iconoclasm, celibacy, medium used in the Eucharist...and a big one - The Trinity and the Nicene Creed. All of this threw fuel on the fire and caused the split, and it culminated in violence when the armies of the 4th Crusade saw sacking Constantinople in 1204 more rewarding than kicking the Muslims out of Jerusalem and some greedy Venetians and a deposed Byzantine Prince convinced the nobles leading the army...and all it did was make more territory ripe for rampaging Muslims who captured Constantinople in 1453 and it's renaming Islambol/Islambul...later a more Hellenic influenced Arabic - Istanbul. OK, a long-winded way of saying they got a lot of anti-Western bias and I concede it is not all unjustified.
Second, unlike the prelates overseeing the Holy Sites in Jerusalem who get along with Israel the Russians never seem to get along with Israel and appear to delight in their discomfort and in arming their enemies.
Third, the Russians arm and support the most nefarious regimes on the plant...none more troubling than the Mahdi Death Cult of Iran who has stated too many times to count its intent to exterminate the Jewish state.
It is a peculiar form of Christianity that sees nuclear-armed genocidal-maniacs as good partners and sees Israel as an enemy, and this peculiarity cannot be blamed in any way on an Orthodox distrust of the West no matter how justified it might be and be considered authentically "Christian" in character. IMO it is not unlike the Christianity of Nazism. And I do not see any evidence out there capable of altering this opinion.
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Well...how ironic that a technology introduced by competitors for once and not Yankee Imperialist dogs spurred the dogs to react and deploy...
(https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2021-11-14_11-29-13.png)
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-nuclear-unit-germany-reactivates-dark-eagle-hypersonic-missiles (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-nuclear-unit-germany-reactivates-dark-eagle-hypersonic-missiles)
...and adds glue to the outdated alliance...so much glue in fact that I doubt if Edogan announced a pan-Muslim caliphate with Iran and Pakistan it would have no impact on said alliance...at best the would eject the Turks...the alliance marches on...
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https://www.weaselzippers.us/476505-nato-warns-russia-over-ukraine-military-buildup/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/476505-nato-warns-russia-over-ukraine-military-buildup/)
See? It's always the Eurotards pushing most of this Ukraine crap...sure would be nice if we ended this useless alliance...let these Euro idiots fend for themselves and leave us out of it.
But nooooo. Between Biden/DeepState idiocy and mis-steps by Russia making it easier for the former to cling to stupid ideas...we are all porked.
So, fine...have Russia invade, watch America cut and run...and drop this mess on the Euro's. Going to happen with or without NATO, right?
WTF then, invade already! ::gaah::
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Stoltenberg, jackbooted Norwegian...inbred Labor Party (socialist) ass-clown...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/jan-6-riot-attack-nato-jens-stoltenberg (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/jan-6-riot-attack-nato-jens-stoltenberg)
...has really stepped in it and pissed off me and legions of other legitimate Americans!
NATO has just announced itself a mortal enemy of Liberty. So be it.
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Turks going after Kurds again...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkish-kurdish-war-gaining-momentum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkish-kurdish-war-gaining-momentum)
...I'd arm the heck out of the Kurds and let them march on and slaughter the damned Turks.
But, TeamFraud a little distracted right now so the Kurds are hung out to dry...again...
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Whatever...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-union-unveils-new-strategy-become-global-power (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-union-unveils-new-strategy-become-global-power)
Liars! All these losers ever want is their cake and eat it too...
I wish they'd take care of their own BS, but these clowns are gutless, lazy and stupid...and as long as American leadership is under corrupt and illegitimate occupation the US will never be able to break away from NATO.
Everybody is porked!
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I see this as a big nothing-burger...
“NATO and our Asia-Pacific partners have now agreed to step up our practical and political cooperation in several areas, including cyber, new technology, and countering disinformation,” he said.
“We will also work more closely together in other areas such as maritime security, climate change, and resilience. Because global challenges demand global solutions.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-engage-asia-pacifc-counter-china (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-engage-asia-pacifc-counter-china)
...this engagement looks like a glorified globalist/woke-ist circle-jerk...
::)
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NATO has an impotence issue...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-used-nato-airspace-deliver-missiles-serbia (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-used-nato-airspace-deliver-missiles-serbia)
(https://images3.imgbox.com/86/eb/dipJJM4k_o.jpg)
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Who sold China C-17's?
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Who sold China C-17's?
ChiCom Y-20's...
Your criminal insinuations are reported to the appropriate Communist Chinese agents for processing...sit tight, you may get a visit by an armed contractor who reports directly to Chairman Obama...
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Who sold China C-17's?
ChiCom Y-20's...
Your criminal insinuations are reported to the appropriate Communist Chinese agents for processing...sit tight, you may get a visit by an armed contractor who reports directly to Chairman Obama...
Please, please, please the spirit in my 2000 year old Katana has been begging for blood fow quite some time now. ::dueling::
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Who sold China C-17's?
ChiCom Y-20's...
Your criminal insinuations are reported to the appropriate Communist Chinese agents for processing...sit tight, you may get a visit by an armed contractor who reports directly to Chairman Obama...
Please, please, please the spirit in my 2000 year old Katana has been begging for blood fow quite some time now. ::dueling::
Heh, that made me smile!
::clapping::
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Whatever...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-union-unveils-new-strategy-become-global-power (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-union-unveils-new-strategy-become-global-power)
Liars! All these losers ever want is their cake and eat it too...
I wish they'd take care of their own BS, but these clowns are gutless, lazy and stupid...and as long as American leadership is under corrupt and illegitimate occupation the US will never be able to break away from NATO.
Everybody is porked!
The EU is grossly incompetent. Ursula's incompetence as German defense minister(?) was legion.
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I'm resigned to the fact that I will not in my lifetime (what is left of it...and I mean in both in the me and us sense) see us decouple from those Euro dependents...
::bashing::
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https://www.france24.com/en/france/20220413-le-pen-wants-france-out-of-nato-integrated-command-backs-nato-russia-links (https://www.france24.com/en/france/20220413-le-pen-wants-france-out-of-nato-integrated-command-backs-nato-russia-links)
But, I'm not willing to move to France...
Unless they also boot the Muslims, Charles the Hammer style if necessary...and embrace Fraxit...and return to De Gaulle style independence...
So, yeah...probably don't have to pack...
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Do we care?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-army-horizon (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-army-horizon)
Only if it gets us out of NATO and out of Europe...otherwise...not at all.
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Finland to vote on it perhaps next Monday...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-days-away-applying-nato-after-approval-issued-nations-defense-committee (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-days-away-applying-nato-after-approval-issued-nations-defense-committee)
...wonder what the outcome would be if we said we're out? Alas, perhaps it could be a future surprise...
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On or before Monday...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finlands-president-announces-country-apply-nato-membership-without-delay (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finlands-president-announces-country-apply-nato-membership-without-delay)
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Apps filed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-and-sweden-formally-apply-join-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-and-sweden-formally-apply-join-nato)
The sketchy Turks led by that senile madman looking for some payola...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-swiftly-blocks-nato-accession-talks-sweden-finland-issues-list-demands (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-swiftly-blocks-nato-accession-talks-sweden-finland-issues-list-demands)
No doubt they'll get some of that.
And the uber Cuck McConnell thinks he can fast-track ratification...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mcconnell-says-congress-hopes-approve-swedens-nato-bid-august (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mcconnell-says-congress-hopes-approve-swedens-nato-bid-august)
...and given the number of Cucks and Commies, it probably will sail through...
Seems pretty obvious we will never unchain ourselves from the Euro-fools... ::facepalm:: ::bashing:: ::outrage:: ::angry:: ::cussing:: ::gaah:: ::vafancoul::
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Tired of carrying these losers...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-countries-have-heavily-cut-troop-levels (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-countries-have-heavily-cut-troop-levels)
...but the DemComs and Cucks will never cut them loose...
::unknowncomic::
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Chisel "never escaping this madness" in granite... ::facepalm:: ::outrage:: ::cussing:: ::angry:: ::gaah::
https://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,9929.new.html#new
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In the grand scheme of things...with the world descending into so many Hells of their own making...this probably doesn't stack very high, but...whatever...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/latvia-designates-russia-terrorist-state-urges-europe-follow (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/latvia-designates-russia-terrorist-state-urges-europe-follow)
A Russian diplomat warned that if his country is declared a state sponsor of terrorism, it could not only harm US-Russo relations but potentially sever them completely.
On Friday, Alexander Darchiyev, director of the Russian Foreign Ministry's North American department told the TASS news agency:
"I would like to mention the legislative initiative currently being discussed in Congress to declare Russia a 'country sponsor of terrorism.' If passed, it would mean that Washington would have to cross the point of no return, with the most serious collateral damage to bilateral diplomatic relations, up to their lowering or even breaking them off. The US side has been warned."
Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) have been leading an effort to pressure the Biden administration into making the terror designation, which would allow new categories of sanctions. The are only four designated countries today: Cuba, North Korea, Iran and Syria.
On July 28, the Senate passed a non-binding resolution calling on Secretary of State Antony Blinken to designate the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism. At the time, Graham said this about a potential designation:
"It means that doing business with Russia with that designation gets to be exceedingly hard – it has secondary effect sanctions, it would limit dual export items, and more importantly it would waive sovereign immunity when it came to suing Russia in U.S. courts. This designation would be a nightmare for Russia."
Blinken, however, has said a terror designation wouldn't change things much: "The costs that have been imposed on Russia by us and by other countries are absolutely in line with the consequences that would follow from designation as a state sponsor of terrorism.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-it-may-sever-us-relations-if-declared-terrorism-sponsor (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-it-may-sever-us-relations-if-declared-terrorism-sponsor)
Meh...
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So Latvia put Russia on double secret probation .....
If I were the leader of a country I would try to do best for my country.
Long after the US has gone on to the next current thing Russia will still remember.
I am guessing this will harm Latvia in the long term.
Kissinger said it was bad to be a US enemy but worse to be an ally.
The dumbest thing I have seen is the EU energy policy. First they should not have shut down nuclear and coal and should not have counted on wind and should not have relied so much on Russian gas. BUT having done that, they need Russian gas. Freezing their people to reduce the cash flow to Russia is insane.
The early anti Russian sanctions, years before the Russian invasion, screwed over Ukrainian business. Also some in other countries.
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No sympathy for previous victims of Russian totalitarianism, I get it...
Europe choosing to be a victim...I have less sympathy for...
IMO Europe would be better if the Western nations ceded political, moral and cultural leadership to the Central nations...
That way, the NATO umbilical could be cut one day...as it is, if America doesn't collapse from its internal rot within (aided by money and influence abroad by a wide range of suspects we all know)...Europe will drag it into oblivion.
But, in a world of sh*t choices we don't have control over...whatever...
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Not NATO but EU.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/18103
🇵🇱🏳??🌈 Poland threatened to sue the EU, block all European initiatives and remove von der Leyen if it does not receive 35 billion euros
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According to the politician, if the European Commission does not allocate 35 billion euros to fight the pandemic, Warsaw will sue Brussels, veto all EU initiatives and create an alliance to dismiss Ursula von der Leyen and her college of commissioners.
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Warsaw has been in a bitter dispute with the European Commission for several months over the allocation of funds for reconstruction. Brussels demands that Poland "stop homophobic rhetoric and oppression of LGBT+".
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Fine with me...
You go, Poland!
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Notice how any leader that resists the globalists like the EU are "thugs"?
We are told that every leader that resists the US is a thug. Ghadaffi, Assad, Orban, Luchenko, Putin.
Assad is an eye doctor. He is very popular.
The EU is committing suicide anyway. I listed all the ways in which they did things to freeze in the dark.
https://freewestmedia.com/2022/08/04/fatal-ecj-ruling-italy-can-no-longer-control-migrant-ships/
Fatal ECJ ruling: Italy can no longer control migrant ships
A judgment with a devastating message: Italian authorities will no longer be allowed to check rescue ships of various "refugee" aid organizations, which usually enter the ports with migrants. Only in case of danger will this be allowed. This emerges from a decision of the European Court of Justice.
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No sympathy for previous victims of Russian totalitarianism, I get it...
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I think Latvia would be better off getting along with Russia. They should do what is best for them, not worse for Russia. If you live next to a 900 pound gorilla it is best to accommodate the gorilla.
I look at the diplomats and leaders from Russia and China. Then I look at those from the west. The west is lead by emotional children. Maybe HS mean girls is more accurate. How does Latvia think this will help them?
One theory is that the western leaders care more about the opinion of the fellow leaders in "the club" than that of their citizens. Economic harm to Latvia will not fall on the leaders.
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No sympathy for previous victims of Russian totalitarianism, I get it...
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I think Latvia would be better off getting along with Russia. They should do what is best for them, not worse for Russia. If you live next to a 900 pound gorilla it is best to accommodate the gorilla.
I look at the diplomats and leaders from Russia and China. Then I look at those from the west. The west is lead by emotional children. Maybe HS mean girls is more accurate. How does Latvia think this will help them?
One theory is that the western leaders care more about the opinion of the fellow leaders in "the club" than that of their citizens. Economic harm to Latvia will not fall on the leaders.
That's the might-makes-right-regardless-if-you-like-it-or-not means of operation, which if accepted cannot be discriminated against by one gorilla in favor of another...
I'd be your Huckleberry. :D
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No sympathy for previous victims of Russian totalitarianism, I get it...
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I think Latvia would be better off getting along with Russia. They should do what is best for them, not worse for Russia. If you live next to a 900 pound gorilla it is best to accommodate the gorilla.
I look at the diplomats and leaders from Russia and China. Then I look at those from the west. The west is lead by emotional children. Maybe HS mean girls is more accurate. How does Latvia think this will help them?
One theory is that the western leaders care more about the opinion of the fellow leaders in "the club" than that of their citizens. Economic harm to Latvia will not fall on the leaders.
That's the might-makes-right-regardless-if-you-like-it-or-not means of operation, which if accepted cannot be discriminated against by one gorilla in favor of another...
I'd be your Huckleberry. :D
I accept reality. I think the leaders of Latvia should do what is best for their people not virtue signal to fellow leaders.
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No sympathy for previous victims of Russian totalitarianism, I get it...
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I think Latvia would be better off getting along with Russia. They should do what is best for them, not worse for Russia. If you live next to a 900 pound gorilla it is best to accommodate the gorilla.
I look at the diplomats and leaders from Russia and China. Then I look at those from the west. The west is lead by emotional children. Maybe HS mean girls is more accurate. How does Latvia think this will help them?
One theory is that the western leaders care more about the opinion of the fellow leaders in "the club" than that of their citizens. Economic harm to Latvia will not fall on the leaders.
That's the might-makes-right-regardless-if-you-like-it-or-not means of operation, which if accepted cannot be discriminated against by one gorilla in favor of another...
I'd be your Huckleberry. :D
I accept reality. I think the leaders of Latvia should do what is best for their people not virtue signal to fellow leaders.
So if they virtue signal to Moscow its not virtue signaling?
All I ask is for a level playing field...
There is no level playing field...
So, accepting that definition of reality IMO sounds an awful lot like being OK with an unlevel playing field...
I'm not built that way. True reality dictates that no citizens anywhere are more free...they are only tiny gradient variances of servitude once you throw out outliers like North Korea, Iran, Venezuela etc...
So, really...from a citizen point of view...the decision of their masters literally makes no materially quantifiable difference...it's not picking a friend...it's choosing which wolf to be obedient to...which is not the same thing as best for the people...
Nobody cares about the people...they've all made it clear by siding with WEF and ESG and Net Zero and lockdowns and masking and clot-shots they are perfectly happy to snuff a lot of the people from existence...
Also, I know a Latvian couple, liberal, not moonbat-crazy DemoCommie, classic liberals...and they have not a whit of fondness for Russians and their government...and it seems most back home they visit are of a like mind. I reckon it is decades of persecution and abuse that bred resentment into the people...
Not a very realistic thing to ask people to chuck aside, just because somebody else thinks you should...
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Nobody cares about the people...they've all made it clear by siding with WEF and ESG and Net Zero and lockdowns and masking and clot-shots they are perfectly happy to snuff a lot of the people from existence...
Also, I know a Latvian couple, liberal, not moonbat-crazy DemoCommie, classic liberals...and they have not a whit of fondness for Russians and their government...and it seems most back home they visit are of a like mind. I reckon it is decades of persecution and abuse that bred resentment into the people...
Not a very realistic thing to ask people to chuck aside, just because somebody else thinks you should...
There is saying "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
IMO that is what some country's leaders are doing except it is cutting off other people's noses to spite Russia.
Earlier sanctions screwed Ukraine good. They were selling to Russia then came sanctions and they were screwed. I recall some ag products. The EU cheered on the sanctions but Ukr is not part of the EU and they protected their own farmers so Ukr could not sell to EU as best I recall.
I recall the Ukr Motosich company made high end engines and turbines and sold to Russia then they got screwed by anti Russian sanctions. They fell on hard times and China made an investment and started making their product in China and likely stole their IP .
Others noted that the anti Russian sanctions served as protective tariffs which helped Russian industry. They also prevented Russians buying some foreign goods which served as capital controls.
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Nobody cares about the people...they've all made it clear by siding with WEF and ESG and Net Zero and lockdowns and masking and clot-shots they are perfectly happy to snuff a lot of the people from existence...
Also, I know a Latvian couple, liberal, not moonbat-crazy DemoCommie, classic liberals...and they have not a whit of fondness for Russians and their government...and it seems most back home they visit are of a like mind. I reckon it is decades of persecution and abuse that bred resentment into the people...
Not a very realistic thing to ask people to chuck aside, just because somebody else thinks you should...
There is saying "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
IMO that is what some country's leaders are doing except it is cutting off other people's noses to spite Russia.
Earlier sanctions screwed Ukraine good. They were selling to Russia then came sanctions and they were screwed. I recall some ag products. The EU cheered on the sanctions but Ukr is not part of the EU and they protected their own farmers so Ukr could not sell to EU as best I recall.
I recall the Ukr Motosich company made high end engines and turbines and sold to Russia then they got screwed by anti Russian sanctions. They fell on hard times and China made an investment and started making their product in China and likely stole their IP .
Others noted that the anti Russian sanctions served as protective tariffs which helped Russian industry. They also prevented Russians buying some foreign goods which served as capital controls.
They'd get it in the shorts too if they picked Russia...
I argue there is no difference...the trade offs and benefits would wash...the people no better than before and the elites no worse off than before...
And in Latvia's case, and likely the other 2 Baltic states, they don't like Russia...none of the formerly oppressed Soviet satellites want to be in a position to choose...most rather be independent...but that isn't being allowed by East or West...it's BS choice...
Just like our so-called choices in elections...Cucks we can't stand that will betray us vs people loving betrayal...it's all betrayal...picking any perceived lesser one is still a dumb as sh*t choice...(and that if the playing field is even nominal "fair"...snort!)
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I think the Baltics should keep the status quo from before the invasion and not chose sides.
IMO they have taken some petty punitive actions that will have no effect on the war outcome so why do them? Why? Just to virtue signal so the leaders can say they "did something."
One of the Baltics just proposed some change so that Russian citizens could not enter using an EU (not the right term but the shengen visa?) visa.
One of them denies citizenship to Russian speakers not proficient in their language, mostly old folks from the Soviet Era. I think that was done before the invasion. Some have taken some recent anti Russian language laws but I cannot remember what.
Could be worse. After WWII millions of ethnic Germans were kicked out of countries. There were German speaking cities inside Russia with some autonomy. They were invited in hundreds of years ago to bring their advanced agriculture practices. They may have ended that before WWII.
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It's nice not giving a damn about any of these clowns...I don't really care what happens...
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If this goes to body-blows...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greece-informs-allies-ukraine-style-war-looming-turkey (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greece-informs-allies-ukraine-style-war-looming-turkey)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-accuses-greek-coast-guard-firing-cargo-ship-turkish-coast (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-accuses-greek-coast-guard-firing-cargo-ship-turkish-coast)
...NATO cannot hold together...unless it chooses sides or kicks both of them out/possible wars against them...right?
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Throw Erdogan into the mix and who knows what will happen. Time for the popcorn.
Turkey invaded Cyprus and kept a large piece and NATO was very quiet.
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Greeks haven't won a complete war for over a couple eons...but I cannot root for the Turks, they just piss me off to know end ever since they hitched themselves to Erdogan...
::popcorn::
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greece-shows-newly-transferred-upgraded-f-16s-us-angering-turkey (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greece-shows-newly-transferred-upgraded-f-16s-us-angering-turkey)
The taunting and counter-taunting continue...
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Foreign policy is uniquely practical and contingent, dependent on the state of world affairs. Washington should drop useless and faithless allies, especially when they shamelessly take advantage of America. Saudi Arabia has bought lots of U.S. weapons: the royals should be left to use these weapons to defend themselves. South Korea has vastly outstripped its potential antagonist: it should be encouraged to use its resources to build a military sufficient to deter, and if necessary, defeat North Korea. Turkey is more likely to attack America’s friends than adversaries: Ankara should be defenestrated from NATO and left to handle its own defense.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/allies-that-hurt-america/ (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/allies-that-hurt-america/)
Channeling Dan Aykroyd's SNL Point/Counterpoint character - "Doug, you ignorant slut."
I've been waiting over a couple decades (in the case of NATO) to see this happen...
It's not how the Cucks and DemoCommies roll...and while cutting Europe loose and the problematic Turks with them would have extricated ourselves from this recent madness...the ChiCom threat in the Pacific means the Korea extrication is DOA...
c'est la vie
For a little while, anyway...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-proceed-planned-nuclear-exercises-next-week (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-proceed-planned-nuclear-exercises-next-week)
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Feeding the beast...
This time, the northern flank...
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-greenlights-guided-rocket-sale-finland-bolster-europes-northern-flank (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-greenlights-guided-rocket-sale-finland-bolster-europes-northern-flank)
When things pop, the wider the front the better, eh?
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The Duran joked about this stuff long ago. Erdogan will have fun toying with Sweden.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11410583/Turkey-demands-Sweden-hand-journalist-accused-terrorist-President-Erdogan.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11410583/Turkey-demands-Sweden-hand-journalist-accused-terrorist-President-Erdogan.html)
Turkey demands Sweden hand over journalist accused of being a 'terrorist' by President Erdogan in order for it to back the Scandinavian country's bid to join NATO
Turkish government accused Sweden and Finland of ignoring security concerns
Turkish president wants Sweden to extradite an exiled journalist back to Turkey
He also wants the Nordic nation to crack down on supporters of outlawed PKK
Swedish PM declared yesterday he is willing to counter terrorism in Sweden
But did not specify whether he would extradite the journalist Erdogan named
Turkey has not yet endorsed the accession of Sweden and Finland to NATO
By David Averre For Mailonline
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I'd tell Turkey to go screw themselves and deliver a sh*tload of arms to the Kurds and encourage them to slaughter as many of Erdogan's genocidal terrorists as they can...heck, I'd put bonuses on their top goons as well...pop those and score a bonus delivery!
:D
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Kim Iversen did a deep dive into the Kurds long ago. As I recall, she learned that the US had agreed to throw the Kurds under the bus long ago. Maybe that they be settled far from the Turkish border?
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Yeah, the DeepState UniParty pricks did that...
They are no better than the damned Turks!!!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-says-us-complicit-istanbul-bombing-rejects-condolence-message (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-says-us-complicit-istanbul-bombing-rejects-condolence-message)
LOL! Good, good...let the butthurt flow through you!
So hilarious seeing assclowns wanting to ethnically cleans a race off the map get upset over being thwarted in their genocide...what a shame!
Perhaps this can be a better catalyst to once and for all get these demented wanna-be Pan-Islamist dreamers the eff out of NATO!
Let them run into Russia's arms...when the inevitable global clash commences targeting this trash makes more sense than relying on it!
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I saw that. Turkey blames the Kurds then points out that the US backs the Kurds in Syria?
The arrest photo of the suspect has her in a New York sweatshirt. Doesn't mean anything but does not help the optics. ha!
Erdogan has to get re-elected. Going easy on the Swedes for NATO if they harbor alleged Kurd terrorists will not happen.
The Alexes on the Duran do not like Turks because of Cyprus as both are Greek. Still they grin as they tell of Erdogan's latest moves.
I know little about the Kurds. They kinda got screwed out of a country. I think that when they reside near the Turkish border they do nasty things inside Turkey.
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The did and are still getting screwed...
The Kurds are not radical like other Muslims in the region, they are friendly towards Israel and Jews, the like Western dress and other accoutrements of modern civilization...they just want their ancestral homeland...which happens to reside in territory the world (led by the Brits) drew up in modern day Iraq, Iran, Syria & Turkey. Isn't it interesting how their Muslim neighbors are their worst enemies? And enemy number one is Turkey.
I'd back the Kurds and tell the Turks to go screw themselves in a heartbeat.
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Joe Fraud junta cheering on dead Kurds in order to get Sweden and Finland into NATO at any price...
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=700,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/121/093/334/original/3cdb04f801b1f60a.jpeg
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I found this 3 year old Kim Iversen video on the Kurds.
I did not re-watch it. I recall it was good.
https://youtu.be/-CSeXtdZAO4
Did We Abandon The Kurds?
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This should be interesting. NATO vs NATO. Has Sweden turned over their Kurds to Turkey yet?
I think Emil was raised in communist Romania.
https://youtu.be/AiYgst0z1M8
Pentagon scared Turkey will blow up US troops in Syria. Erdogan doesn't care...
Emil Cosman
36.4K subscribers
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Yeah don't much care myself...
See no reason to change my mind on a Kurds over Turks outcome no matter the fallout...
But, chances are a sensible outcome is probably the least likely outcome...
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Nice ally...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/size-british-army-hit-200-year-low-only-sufficient-stay-home-tootle-around-warns-secdef (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/size-british-army-hit-200-year-low-only-sufficient-stay-home-tootle-around-warns-secdef)
...pretty much ensures any attack on them will put others conventional forces in the hot-seat or it's a quick escalation to The Big Red Button than ends it all...
::facepalm::
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As usual extreme Russophile Pepe taking a lot of joy in this Erdogan balancing act...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-operation-claw-sword-erdogans-big-new-games-syria (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-operation-claw-sword-erdogans-big-new-games-syria)
...but I think he overplays things a bit much...Sultan Erdogan is not going to be the next great Pan-Islamic leader...he's closer to the grave than he is earthly kinghood...
But, whatever...trigger more bloodshed...maybe get booted from NATO (wouldn't that be nice?!)...open a new conflict...
Whatever...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant)
Gonna suck us dry...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant)
Gonna suck us dry...
I think selling US arms is one reason for expanding NATO. I saw some numbers for what percent of arms in some NATO countries were from US. Some were over 80 or even 90%.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant)
Gonna suck us dry...
I think selling US arms is one reason for expanding NATO. I saw some numbers for what percent of arms in some NATO countries were from US. Some were over 80 or even 90%.
It is after all about the only way to recoup some of the 90% load the US bears by carrying these louts...
In other news, see this?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/erdogan-rival-handed-nearly-3-years-prison-insulting-election-authority (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/erdogan-rival-handed-nearly-3-years-prison-insulting-election-authority)
And remember...the Euro's have been dragging Uke membership over "corruption" concerns...let that sink in...the Euro's and their Brussels Bullies threatening Eastern member states...suiciding itself with ESG bullcrap and forcing their people to freeze and starve to retain a foothold in another corrupt nation...while NATO ally Turkey run by a longtime dictator (popularly elected Putin-style as opposition has been outlawed...not much different than the CCP et al) supposedly is corruption free?
Seems to me if these people were honest, ethical and consistent they would either immediately and fully admit Ukraine into NATO...or boot Turkey from NATO...
foottapping
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According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria)
...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide. And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.
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According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria)
...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide. And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.
Can you summarize? Who would be left in Syria? What is the change?
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According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria)
...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide. And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.
Can you summarize? Who would be left in Syria? What is the change?
It means there would be primarily Syrians, Russians, Americans and whatever/whoever's jihadis...Kurds would be unmolested and not likely engaging anybody with Turks gone...
To me it seems the Russians want to see how exposed the Americans are...
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I will never pretend to understand Erdogan.
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How does the US get the Syrian oil out of the country? Does that involve the US?
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This guy gives his view of Syria and Turkey. Kurds get a lot of money from occupied Syrian oil fields and ag land thanks to Americans.
Syria asks for help. Russia says if Turkey normalizes things with Syrians and withdraws then Syria will attack Kurds.
So what will the Americans respond? Maybe Syrian refugees return from Turkey to Syria?
https://youtu.be/3lilMAimfEw
TG 979: Geopolitical Shift As Turkey and Syria Move To Normalize Relations
The Ceaser act penalizes any country that helps Syria?
Also 3 years ago.
https://youtu.be/-CSeXtdZAO4
Did We Abandon The Kurds?
Kim Iversen
505K subscribers
90K views 3 years ago
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I dunno...nice to see we are thusly accused...wish it was going here to relieve our misery...but no such luck...
In a digital age, how hard is it to document the act of taking it and transporting it?
::unknowncomic::
As for other question...US will do nothing, watch Kurds be slaughtered...they've done it numerous times...
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A couple years old.
(https://i0.wp.com/rojavainformationcenter.com/storage/2020/05/RIC-MAP-Syria-Zones-05-2020-01.png?fit=1030%2C954&ssl=1)
Last I heard the US takes around 70-80% of Syrian oil.
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https://youtu.be/YjkjteDPwSQ
Turkey, Syria coming together. Bolton fumes, wants Turkey out of NATO
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Burton, lol...
A maniac his ilk helped create and keep propped up...now he sings my song?
Unfortunately...his weight casts no power...
Thanks for nothing...
Still wanting to know the full papertrail of this Syrian oil...wherefore art thou?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them)
Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?
Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them)
Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?
Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...
I recall the Duran joking about this long ago. Is this even new? Not criticizing the post, but Sweden getting all indignant now.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them)
Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?
Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...
I recall the Duran joking about this long ago. Is this even new? Not criticizing the post, but Sweden getting all indignant now.
No, not new, came up as soon as word got out an invitation to NATO was extended to Sweden & Finland, this latest reiteration from the Turks is likely after backroom discussions for months got nowhere...what is ironic or more like pathetic is the FJB regime and DeepState who like to use the Kurds when it suits them and abandon them also when it suits them if they had any balls should have told the Turk's "fine, we'll get them to agree for that if we also have the right to extradite your people conducting ethnic cleansing of Kurds...
But, as we all know they have to balls, brains, ethics or anything...
Frankly, I would tell the Turks to go screw themselves...
But everybody gets to be equally disappointed with all of these morons...
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See what happens when you don't tell the Turks to FO?!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-wont-meet-turkey-demands-win-its-vote-nato-membership (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-wont-meet-turkey-demands-win-its-vote-nato-membership)
They want to be bribed.
(https://imgs.search.brave.com/ZAUCjLdHFLyHvkV19phj71EIVi1pirCNS_vbcsCo2Ac/rs:fit:498:277:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YTEudGVub3IuY29t/L2ltYWdlcy9kZmFi/Nzc3MGY5Yzc4MThh/MGZmNzU2NzkxM2Ew/OTdlMS90ZW5vci5n/aWY_aXRlbWlkPTE1/MDAzMzk2.gif)
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Turkey on Thursday summoned Sweden's ambassador to complain about issues related to the country's attempt at NATO ascension, at a moment Stockholm has lately admitted that Turkey is asking what it cannot give.
This latest example of Turkey's anger is perhaps among the most absurd examples of Turkish overreach regarding its demands that Sweden clamp down on dissident Kurdish groups, given it involves a mere tweet and a group exercising free speech.
The offending tweet by a Swedish-based activist group called Rojava Committee of Sweden is described by AFP as follows: "A tweet by the Rojava Committee of Sweden on Wednesday compared Erdogan to Italy's Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, who was hung upside down after his execution in the closing days of World War II."
And more provocatively the tweet included imagery of a dummy made to look like Erdogan swinging from a rope, continuing the Mussolini death comparisons. Apparently the group staged the "hanging" of the dummy on a street in Stockholm as part of a demonstration.
"History shows how dictators end up," the group wrote as part of the message. "It is time for Erdogan to resign. Take this chance and quit so that you don't end up hanging upside down on (Istanbul's) Taksim Square."
(https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/kurdishgrptweet.png)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-rages-sweden-summons-ambassador-over-kurdish-groups-tweet (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-rages-sweden-summons-ambassador-over-kurdish-groups-tweet)
::hysterical::
I'm with the Kurds on this one...Erdogan is a murderous thug waging genocide against the Kurdish people. Knock that sh*t off!
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Spoken like a true Muslim...and remembering that the myth of the moderate Muslim is just that, pure myth...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-tells-sweden-dont-expect-join-nato-after-quran-burning-incident (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-tells-sweden-dont-expect-join-nato-after-quran-burning-incident)
...it's like having Satan a member of Heaven...
...totally batshyt-effing-insane...
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Erdogan is so predictable. He was going to torment the Swedes from day 1. This is no surprise.
I cannot recall the details but Kim Iversen did a special on the Kurds. I think the US agreed to throw them under the bus long ago. I like the Kurds but they are screwed.
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In this bat-crap stupid world...everybody is screwed...some only more so than some right now...but everybody is or will be soon completely porked!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/military/denmark-plans-mandatory-military-service-women-nato-deepens-ukraine-support (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/denmark-plans-mandatory-military-service-women-nato-deepens-ukraine-support)
Whatever...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-issues-terror-alert-its-citizens-traveling-west-after-quran-burnings (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-issues-terror-alert-its-citizens-traveling-west-after-quran-burnings)
Anybody else thinking what I am thinking?
Citizens in every NATO nation should be having murderous-pedophile book burnings! ::whoohoo::
Bu-Bye Turkey! :D
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/half-dozen-countries-temporarily-close-istanbul-consulates-over-security-threats (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/half-dozen-countries-temporarily-close-istanbul-consulates-over-security-threats)
Excellent, increase the butthurt another notch or two...
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Russia is trolling the US. It wants NATO to convene an emergency summit over the attack on the NS pipeline.
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Trolling...that's all they got?
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Finns throw Swedes under the bus...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden)
...Putin threatens to unzip his fly...
...and the Poles push all-in...want more allied presence...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases)
Looks like my prediction of this war opening up from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean was a ridiculously call...
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Erdogan payoffs got Finland in...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-announces-turkey-approve-finlands-nato-bid-sweden-left-behind (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-announces-turkey-approve-finlands-nato-bid-sweden-left-behind)
...no deal on Sweden.
Little matter to the Rus...pretty sure Finland being on their border has them more red-assed than Sweden...
...how do ya like those Turks now, Puti?
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Finns throw Swedes under the bus...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden)
...Putin threatens to unzip his fly...
...and the Poles push all-in...want more allied presence...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases)
Looks like my prediction of this war opening up from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean was a ridiculously call...
I hear a lot of things over the internet, some might even be true.
I hear that the Pole elite talk tough on Russia. The Polish people not near as much. At least they do not want to do anything more than talk tough. There are Poles fighting and dying in Ukraine. We shall see.
I guess that having a NATO base brings in money. The US is too weak to ever make you pay for it.
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Finns throw Swedes under the bus...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reversal-finland-now-says-ready-join-nato-without-sweden)
...Putin threatens to unzip his fly...
...and the Poles push all-in...want more allied presence...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/polish-pm-we-want-permanent-us-military-bases)
Looks like my prediction of this war opening up from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean was a ridiculously call...
I hear a lot of things over the internet, some might even be true.
I hear that the Pole elite talk tough on Russia. The Polish people not near as much. At least they do not want to do anything more than talk tough. There are Poles fighting and dying in Ukraine. We shall see.
I guess that having a NATO base brings in money. The US is too weak to ever make you pay for it.
I think a case could be successfully argued that the Euro's want WWIII more so than the US DeepState does...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-will-execute-icc-arrest-warrant-if-putin-enters-territory (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-will-execute-icc-arrest-warrant-if-putin-enters-territory)
The ICC is totally in grips of the Socialist Euro Elite and no friend of the US, something ironically shared with Russia...
And the Poles have the largest buildup of troops and arms in all of Europe now. And, see what this guy said?
https://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,9929.new.html#new (https://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,9929.new.html#new)
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"That guy" is an idiot. "Our values"? What "values"? Homo/trans/NWO? THOSE VALUES?
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Russian Medvedev threatened to send missile into the Hague if Putin arrested.
US has service man protection act allowing US to do kinetic stuff if ICC ever grabs US service man.
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LOL
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This is fracking sickly hilarious! Germany saying Hungary (who values its sovereignty too much) and Turkey (who is allowed to exercise their sovereignty all the time and play both sides of every street) cannot be trusted in NATO...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-shouldnt-trust-hungary-and-turkey-claims-german-newspaper-die-welt (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-shouldnt-trust-hungary-and-turkey-claims-german-newspaper-die-welt)
...yet the Euro's argue over who blackmailed whom first, point fingers at others for being authoritarian when they are the epitome of authoritarian and browbeat any member not holding the Brussels line and looking the other way on trade with the Russian Empire they want to wage WWIII with (with Germany, Italy and Poland leading the way) (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-war-poland-still-doing-eu47-billion-business-russia-and-third-biggest-exporter) and everybody looking the other way on the sanction-defying oil/gas trade on their waters in ship-to-ship transfers.
Total clown-ass world!
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/26/hungary-not-sure-if-it-wants-to-support-finland-and-sweden-joining-nato-while-u-s-state-dept-tries-to-overthrow-hungarian-government/
Yeah...why support people trying to topple your government if you are not into toppling your government (because of principles or lack of adequate compensation)?
Hey look, is that the terrorist Samantha over there? ::noose::
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The Fin is in.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-clears-last-hurdle-will-become-31st-member-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/finland-clears-last-hurdle-will-become-31st-member-nato)
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As I recall, the US attempted recent regime change in Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Turkey.
Maybe they forgot? Maybe the leaders did not take it personal?
What a world.
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Comment at vox day
Joe Katzman 🚁🕎 @joekatzman
5 hours ago
Erdogan stands nowhere. He’s a happy merchant in the souk.
It’s a viable strategy if you sit at a key crossroads. You aren’t anyone’s deep ally, but neither do you backstab anyone. Sometimes you mediate.
Globohomo wants him gone.
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The rank hypocrisy and cowardice of the Unholy Macron highlights once again why we need to GTFO of Europe!!!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/09/macron-says-europe-must-reduce-dependency-on-united-states-and-avoid-being-pulled-into-pending-taiwan-crisis/
They want us to pay in taxpayer money and our peoples blood to protect their damned Soocialist sh*tholes and are pants pissing gutless cowards when it comes to the stinking Chi-Com's...
We should be pulling out of Europe and letting those miserable pricks fend for themselves and strengthen ties with our Asian allies (except the pisspant Aussies and Kiwis, they can KMA!)...and confront the Chi-Com thugs!
But noooooo, our puppet is owned 100% by Beijing and Ukraine so we are totally f**ked over!!! ::outrage:: ::cussing:: ::angry:: ::gaah::
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I heard that they separated Macron from Ursula for the last couple days, who they did not want and apparently did not invite. They threw her on some commuter train to the airport and she had to do it all like us peasants, including showing her ID and going through customs.
Macron spoke twice as long as Xi, a major mistake, and talked about Ukraine some, to a visibly annoyed Xi.
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Talk about a pot full of sh*t! To me all three stink. Fat Panda I would annoy on purpose, call him a running-dog commie rat-bastard to his face...the other two idiots warrant no wasted breath...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-talks-establishing-military-bases-finland (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-talks-establishing-military-bases-finland)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/03/as-ukraine-sends-u-s-supported-drones-to-target-moscow-a-reminder-of-president-trumps-warning-about-biden-creating-world-war-iii/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/05/03/as-ukraine-sends-u-s-supported-drones-to-target-moscow-a-reminder-of-president-trumps-warning-about-biden-creating-world-war-iii/)
The Northern Front gets spicier...
Oh well...
Corruption has consequences...and corruption hit new disturbing lows with The Steal when puppet FJB was corruptly installed...
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Heh!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-outraged-leaked-ukrainian-plans-blow-vital-oil-pipeline (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-outraged-leaked-ukrainian-plans-blow-vital-oil-pipeline)
Just shut up!
And sign-off on their membership!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-members-split-how-upgrade-ukraines-status-upcoming-summit (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-members-split-how-upgrade-ukraines-status-upcoming-summit)
::laughonfloor::
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Neat, with everything already in place already and more air assets rolling in, wonder if the Euro War sees a NATO invasion launched Pre-Ukraine invasion "exercise" style?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-kicks-largest-air-drills-history-germany-hosts (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-kicks-largest-air-drills-history-germany-hosts)
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Biden said NATO has grown more unified during the Ukraine war and “we’re going to be building on that momentum” when the alliance holds its annual summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, on July 11 and 12.
Hmm. That is 4 weeks from now. I saw some article, maybe in Politico., that said that western elites are panicking.I see other headlines still saying Ukraine is winning.
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Ukraine is not winning nor is it uniting NATO...what will unite them is panic when they've realized it is lost and a partition is all they can hope for all they will have left is (ironically true) a fear of more losing...
There is no escape from this madness...
Not for us as long as the US is controlled by DeepState lunatics and globalists cabalists and their puppets...
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Ukraine is not winning nor is it uniting NATO...what will unite them is panic when they've realized it is lost and a partition is all they can hope for all they will have left is (ironically true) a fear of more losing...
There is no escape from this madness...
Not for us as long as the US is controlled by DeepState lunatics and globalists cabalists and their puppets...
It may come down to not a lack of NATO will but a lack of NATO ability.
I listen to Macgregor and Ritter. Lots of detailed quantitative stuff.
Macgregor said we could fight a war against Russia, if it only lasted a week.
Ritter dismissed the recent air defense exercise as it relied on lots of previously prepositioned fuel and equipment that would be used up in a real war plus the air fields would be attacked.
He said something about the F-35s not being used hard in the exercise? Maybe because of wear and tear and spare parts?
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Ukraine is not winning nor is it uniting NATO...what will unite them is panic when they've realized it is lost and a partition is all they can hope for all they will have left is (ironically true) a fear of more losing...
There is no escape from this madness...
Not for us as long as the US is controlled by DeepState lunatics and globalists cabalists and their puppets...
It may come down to not a lack of NATO will but a lack of NATO ability.
I listen to Macgregor and Ritter. Lots of detailed quantitative stuff.
Macgregor said we could fight a war against Russia, if it only lasted a week.
Ritter dismissed the recent air defense exercise as it relied on lots of previously prepositioned fuel and equipment that would be used up in a real war plus the air fields would be attacked.
He said something about the F-35s not being used hard in the exercise? Maybe because of wear and tear and spare parts?
First, I think a week is hyperbole on both sides of the equation...second, it wouldn't just be Russia if NATO entered...the F35's have had system/maintenance issues that have had their metrics improved in recent years but are still not optimal per original specs so they are not going to be thrown about willy-nilly...
I think everybody is downplaying real downsides and overstating others...
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In the past I have listened to a long Putin speech or read the transcript to see for myself what he actually said. He recently met with journalists and answered questions for 3 hours. Some have been critical of him in the recent past. I did not listen to it.
You mentioned partition. I have heard him talk about how far Russia would go. If Ukraine/NATO continues to attack Russia using rockets or shelling they will keep moving east to eliminate it from Ukraine. Russia has no desire to govern people who hate them. It is a huge money loser.
I hear Ukr soldiers on occasion complain that "most" or "80%" of the locals want the Russians to win and rat them out to Russians. Some call the locals "waiters" as they are waiting for the Russians to come. IMO if the locals want to be with Russia why should we care?
Ben Hodges, former US army general guy, recently said we should retake Crimea even if we had to kill all the Russians. They are 80% of the pop. Geez. These people are sociopaths. The world notices.
IMO much of the world is turning on the US. It is the trajectory at this point, not the absolute level. I do not believe it is a coincidence. I think the US sanctions on Russia and the unexpected results for Russia encouraged others around the world.
Someone said that the US has been the schoolyard bully everyone was afraid of. Russia punched the US in the nose and got away with it. Those in the schoolyard are turning on us. I heard that the US tried to get the Saudis to maintain a high level oil output by threatening them. Did not end well.
I wish the US govt would do things beneficial to US citizens. None of this helps us.
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It's beyond obvious that the corrupt and compromised FJB regime is incapable of being respected or feared...you call it bullying, that's a half-truth at best...you think this sh*t would be going in under Trump? He was the anti-FJB in almost every respect...
The other point is at the conclusion of the cold war when the Soviets collapsed we should have either been the real bully everybody says we are and put a stranglehold on the entire former Soviet bloc...or we should have gotten out of NATO and Europe entirely...but that is not what the elites did...
We the People are getting effed as much if not more than any asshole overseas...
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We the People are getting effed as much if not more than any asshole overseas...
That is who I care about. I just scan headlines and see things changing fast against the US. Much was predicted. If US threats worked long term and benefited us then I do not have a huge problem with them. China seduces using development, bribes and is making huge headway.
Brian Berletic said he once traveled through Laos by bus and it took 3 days. China built high speed rail and it now takes hours. Imagine you are some ignorant farmer and you see this and you get to travel more than 20 km from where you were born. The US using money to influence the elections in Thailand because the previous govt wanted more trade with China. The US backed Thai govt said something about killing the planned high speed rail with China.
Don't get me wrong. The Chinese are shrewd businessmen and not boy scouts. They did not do that to benefit Laos but themselves. The US gets little or negative returns when we send cruise missiles into a country.
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According to Alex, NATO is squabbling and could not agree on the new head so the current guy gets another year.
https://youtu.be/JolRcQ_tJIg
NATO disappointed. Elensky, no secrets from CIA. Ursula, double it. White House white powder. U/1
Alex Christoforou
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No squabbling...
SecGen is largely a ceremonial post...kind of a zampolit of NATO...Stoltenberg held over another year because FJB nukes Wallace (UK Defense Sec) because he served in N.Ireland during the so-called "troubles"...though the cover story is because of Ukraine campaign still on-going...
Along with Chair of NATO Military Committee Lt.Adm Bauer (Netherlands) and SACEUR Gen Cavoli, USA they are the faces of NATO and the latter has his hands full operationally should anything happen...they all report into the N.Atlantic Council...and normally follows the POTUS lead, but with that jello-headed corrupt criminal pervert not sure how much that comes into play now...
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Wagner made billions off of Mother Russia...according to Mother Russia...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/colossal-value-wagner-state-contracts-revealed-russian-media (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/colossal-value-wagner-state-contracts-revealed-russian-media)
Thanks for taking Crimea back for us and doing the dirty little work around the globe for us...enjoy unmolested exile in my close pal's nation....
Yeah, I am not buying the official Moscow narrative...
It appears the corrupt CIA may be more honest (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cia-director-calls-ukraine-war-major-opportunity-recruiting-spies) than the Russian government and that is saying a lot!
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Alex of the Duran said Zelensky is conducting a charm offensive but without the charm.
More of that now.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/28187 (https://t.me/EurasianChoice/28187)
"Unprecedented and absurd!" — Zelensky publicly outraged by conditions set for Ukraine's accession to NATO
No sooner had the main "hero" of the NATO summit in Vilnius reached his concert venue, than he has already ticked everyone off, criticizing his patrons for all talk and no trousers for Ukraine. He is outraged by the existence of some kind of "invitation" procedure. Zelensky's full quote reads as follows:
"Unprecedented and absurd — there is no time frame for both invitation (!) and membership of Ukraine; and there are some strange wording about "conditions" is added even for Ukraine's invitation."
Tank after tank is burning in the Zaporizhzhia steppe, the mobilization resource has to be replenished by recruiting combatants in relatively prosperous non-European countries and American PMCs and there is no prospect of Ukraine joining the alliance. Let's see where Zelensky's whining goes.
also
http://voxday.net/2023/07/11/the-non-diplomacy-dance/ (http://voxday.net/2023/07/11/the-non-diplomacy-dance/)
The Non-Diplomacy Dance
It’s rather amusing to watch Clown World attempting to do diplomacy without actually going through the traditional diplomatic exercises in order to maintain its facade of complete control of the situation.
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Alex summarizes some recent news. If you want to make the duran guys giggle for the past couple years just mention what Erdogan is up to recently.
https://youtu.be/9Ka4be8A_Jw (https://youtu.be/9Ka4be8A_Jw)
Erdogan, YES to Sweden-NATO. Sullivan, EU-NATO not interconnected. Putin 3 hour Wagner meeting. U/1
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He is funny. At the link around 26 min he shows a meme of Zelensky at the NATO meetng then he does an imitation of the women. He compares Zelensky to a mafia don whom everyone starts to avoid because they know he is a dead man walking.
Then, as I recall, he says that NATO was designed to fight the USSR. Now they can't even fight Russia so they want to expand into the Pacific.
https://youtu.be/3uJP3Yo31jQ?t=1540
WHAT IS NATO?
Garland Nixon
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The version I heard was that US promised F-16 fighters to Turkey and Erdogan said Turkey would approve entry of Sweden into NATO. US then said that congress would have to approve F-16s and that could take a while. Erdogan said that the Turkish parliament would have to approve Sweden and that could take a while. ::laughonfloor::
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/54552
Sweden's NATO membership is delayed - 24 hours after the "historic agreement", Erdogan has "backtracked"
Just this morning we wrote that despite loud statements and "approval" from Turkey, Sweden's path to NATO is at risk of being delayed. Thus, the U.S. Congress is in no hurry to meet Erdogan's demands for the supply of F-16 fighter jets, and the Turkish leader himself may at any moment try to bargain for better terms, "dumping" everything on the Mejlis, which must vote to approve Stockholm's application. The day has not had time to approach sunset, but the sultan has already started political manoeuvres.
Turkey's parliament will not approve Sweden's application for NATO membership before October, Erdogan said at a press conference following the alliance's summit in Vilnius. The Turkish president explained such a distant timeframe by the fact that the relevant bill will be submitted to the Mejlis for consideration only after its opening, which will happen in autumn. In addition, Erdogan said that he expects Stockholm to fulfil its commitments to fight terrorism before the parliamentary session - Sweden will have to provide a detailed action plan within the framework of previously adopted agreements.
As we said, the Turkish president will try to squeeze maximum concessions out of the situation, so we will see examples of Erdogan's classic "multi-vector policy" more than once. It was vital for the alliance to show unity before the summit, so once again the words of NATO spokesmen were at odds with reality.
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Yeah, no...like I said long ago, Erdogan is a whore who can be bought...FJB said he would underwrite (US taxpayers!) $10-11B of funds from IMF...
And The Kenyan and his team of puppets in this corrupt Admin think they paid him to backstab Russia...when in fact he will take the money and donkey-punch these fools and cut other deals with the Rus...
Total
Clown
Show
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Heh, ink not even dry on the deal and the true nature of Erdogan's Turkey reemerges as predicted...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/recork-champagne-swedens-nato-accession-deal-turkiye-still-faces-hurdles (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/recork-champagne-swedens-nato-accession-deal-turkiye-still-faces-hurdles)
Should I say the quiet part out loud? WTH, why not...I'm sure they're thinking it...a soft coup plot in Turkey?
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Too bad nobody with balls is challenging DemoNazi scum and gutless Cucks over staying in a NATO where Turks routinely do side deals with Russia and gleefully resume the genocide of Armenian Christians...maybe if Poland becomes a dominate military force in Central Europe we can finally leave this bullsh*t outfit?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-aims-create-largest-army-europe-within-two-years (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-aims-create-largest-army-europe-within-two-years)
Might makes right, period. Get mighty or get f**ked.
I just want to GTFO.
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I never tried to figure out Erdogan. I know he pissed off Russia by releasing the Ukr POWs to Kiev.
I read the linked story. It seems Poland gave some older weapons to Ukr. So it needs new ones. Mostly from US. Some from South Korea.
Also, the former Finnish PM is joining some Tony Blair consulting firm.
https://youtu.be/gyCV2jwS2zA?t=2143
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Reading the above link made me remember something.Decades ago US News & World Report was a fantastic magazine. The were conservative but objective and presented both sides of issues in their best light. They even had an opinion page called Pro and Con where the gave a side by side presentation by the best proponents of an issue. I stopped watch TV news in HS and subscribed to a few magazines instead,m including this one.
They did not cover current events but more or news of quarterly interest. I recall three long news stories that surprised me. One was negative on meat packing plants, another the USS Iowa USN attempt to blame a possibly gay/bi sailor, and the benefits that the USSR conferred on central Asia parts of USSR. They were very anti USSR so that surprised me. Reminded me of how the Romans brought civilization to Britain. I recall that the Russian parts of USSR were kinda drained to build up other parts.
I have no opinion on the current war. The Dreizin piece was interesting but complicated.
I trust amateur video blogs more than govt or MSM. My impression is that some parts of USSR are worse off now.Some better. The USSR collapse was an opportunity to loot in some places.
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I heard that Senator Menendes was the main hold out on giving F-16s to Turkey so maybe the US DOJ went after him to get F-16s to Turkey???
Also the regime change in Pakistan had a Ukraine angle. IMF forgave a loan if Paki sent ammo to Ukraine???
The circus never ends.
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Neocons took over US Snooze & World Distort decades ago...I quit reading them by the early 90's...
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Not NATO but EU. EU screwed Hungary by withholding money. Hungary said no money to Ukraine until they get paid. Also, stop harming ethnic Hungarians in Transcarpathian region.
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See this?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-jet-shoots-down-turkish-drone-over-syria-after-attack-occupied-oil-field (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-jet-shoots-down-turkish-drone-over-syria-after-attack-occupied-oil-field)
If we won't leave the NATO idiots and Turkey won't leave the NATO idiots perhaps we can beat on each other and make the NATO idiots kick us both out?
::whoohoo::
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https://t.me/intelslava/53152
A mob storms the American military airbase at Incirlik .
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Who stirred up those morons and why?
The Rus perhaps? Erdogan himself? Both?
Only morons can be so stupendously stupid as to who is to blame for their worsening standard of living...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give)
I think terminal stupidity across the globe is the most nefarious epidemic extant!
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Who stirred up those morons and why?
The Rus perhaps? Erdogan himself? Both?
Only morons can be so stupendously stupid as to who is to blame for their worsening standard of living...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give)
I think terminal stupidity across the globe is the most nefarious epidemic extant!
I think these people watch social media on their own. Govts cannot control much of the information people obtain. They see the bombing of Gaza and riot. I noticed a water canon trying to hit the Turkish demonstrators. I heard that some moderate govts in the region are afraid of their own populace.
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Who stirred up those morons and why?
The Rus perhaps? Erdogan himself? Both?
Only morons can be so stupendously stupid as to who is to blame for their worsening standard of living...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give)
I think terminal stupidity across the globe is the most nefarious epidemic extant!
I think these people watch social media on their own. Govts cannot control much of the information people obtain. They see the bombing of Gaza and riot. I noticed a water canon trying to hit the Turkish demonstrators. I heard that some moderate govts in the region are afraid of their own populace.
That's the way it should be...but in totalitarian regimes professing democracies (lol) like Turkey are the ones that should be overthrown...but they are not and its due to one common thread - corruption. So, the morons have only themselves to blame.
You watch, Erdogan will not be kicked to the curb...and he is punishing the people with inflation...
Sound familiar?
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https://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,19649.new.html#new
We are never going to see America free itself from this doomed continent...
Russia just keeps giving them gift-wrapped presents they cannot refuse...
::facepalm::
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Who stirred up those morons and why?
The Rus perhaps? Erdogan himself? Both?
Only morons can be so stupendously stupid as to who is to blame for their worsening standard of living...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-sustaining-major-inflation-something-has-give)
I think terminal stupidity across the globe is the most nefarious epidemic extant!
I think these people watch social media on their own. Govts cannot control much of the information people obtain. They see the bombing of Gaza and riot. I noticed a water canon trying to hit the Turkish demonstrators. I heard that some moderate govts in the region are afraid of their own populace.
That's the way it should be...but in totalitarian regimes professing democracies (lol) like Turkey are the ones that should be overthrown...but they are not and its due to one common thread - corruption. So, the morons have only themselves to blame.
You watch, Erdogan will not be kicked to the curb...and he is punishing the people with inflation...
Sound familiar?
I heard that the fundamentalist Muslims in Turkey center and east out bred those secular in the west and Istanbul and put Erdogan in power. IMO he is crazy like a fox. Maybe too clever for his own good sometimes.
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I don't doubt that US/NATO have lots of war plans. Why not STFU about them?
The Finns helped blockade Leningrad in WWII. Finns from the north and Germans from the south. Over 1 million people starved to death in the siege of Leningrad. I cannot imagine saying this crap.
I recall some US war reenactment group recreated the nuclear bombing of Japan. They made a mushroom cloud appear from the distant ground after some plane dropped something. Some Japanese wag asked if they should reenact the Bataan death march.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/11988
??NATO plans to blockade Kaliningrad in the event of a war between Russia and the Baltic states.
This was announced by the commander of NATO forces in Lithuania, Peter Nielsen.
According to him, after Sweden joins NATO, its navy and air force will help the alliance blockade Kaliningrad.
And the Finns and Estonians will blockade St Petersburg, Nielsen added.
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Why?
While stupidity cannot ever be dismissed by this woke bunch of praetorians...there can be legitimate reasons, like geographically it seems an obvious move so speaking to it means a foe would have to plan for/have contingencies designed to address it which requires resources so there is the asset allocation stress factor and attendant counter-move on contingencies to amp it up...and the intent could be legitimate or it could be a decoy, adding to the fun...
Everybody engages in push and pull and static...nature of the beast...
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FWIW...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-tells-erdogan-ratify-swedens-nato-entry-soon-possible-amid-stall (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-tells-erdogan-ratify-swedens-nato-entry-soon-possible-amid-stall)
Meh
Meanwhile in Finland a much better show to watch...the border crossings with Russia are closing, tired of Moscow dropping Africans & Middleasterners on them...
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/28/finland-closes-border-with-russia-to-stop-putins-brown-people/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/28/finland-closes-border-with-russia-to-stop-putins-brown-people/)
I guess the exploitation rights for oil & other resources has a side deal to funnel some people onto other people...
Be interesting to see what develops next... ::popcorn::
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i THINK THIS IS FAKE NEWS.
https://youtu.be/cpVDUF0506U
Turkey Just Left NATO After They Support Israel Instead Of Palestine!
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Ha, I wish!
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A-holes!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/congress-approves-bill-aimed-trump-prevent-any-president-exiting-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/congress-approves-bill-aimed-trump-prevent-any-president-exiting-nato)
Fine, doesn't say we cannot ignore them and that they cannot break from us...
::vafancoul::
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As commander in chief the president could move US troops where he wanted. BUT Syria showed that the military can lie to and disobey the president.
Also, I always heard that the USN exists to keep the sea lanes open to international trade. Now international trade is going around the cape to avoid the Suez? US and UK say that just because Ukr kills Russians using US weapons does not mean US is at war with Russia. What if Houthis sink US warships using Iran missiles?
Notice all those military age males crossing the border? Some congressmen were proposing new laws to make it easier for immigrants to enlist then get citizenship. Since it worked so well for the Romans. /s
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So tired of this a-hole...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-membership-depends-us-canada-decisions-erdogan (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-membership-depends-us-canada-decisions-erdogan)
...this maniac just keeps shaking everybody down...
...I think we found someone with a copy of the Epstein little black book...
Seriously, people need to start telling this PITA little troll to eff off!!!
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Of course he shakes people down. That is his nature. NATO, EU, Erdogan. All playing stupid games.
Hungary decides not to veto some recent EU Ukr stuff then EU stabs him in the back anyway.
If NATO demands standardization and Sweden has a large arms industry then what happens to that?
I think the long view is that remaining neutral has paid off and will pay off. Ruling over massive non Russian populations is a pain in the butt. Russia needs to rule over Baltics or Poland like they need brain cancer. There is a a lot of evidence that Russians subsidized non Russians in the USSR. E.g. central Asians. Even at their height USSR had to put down uprisings in Germany, Hungary, Czech and elsewhere.
Female leaders and feminized males get all shrill about the Ukr invasion. I heard Finland is enacting more sanctions that will hurt Finland. Finland closed some border crossings bc Finland says 700 illegals crossed from RU in the past year. Meanwhile, the EU sanctions countries that stop illegals. If you pay attention, many of these feminized leaders are acting to get their next jobs in the globalized world institutions. WEF? UN? INF? World Bank? Lobbyists? Consulting firms? They do not care bout their citizens. German Scholz recently went nuts, blaming Russia for shutting down the gs supply. What is his next job?
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Of course he shakes people down. That is his nature. NATO, EU, Erdogan. All playing stupid games.
Hungary decides not to veto some recent EU Ukr stuff then EU stabs him in the back anyway.
If NATO demands standardization and Sweden has a large arms industry then what happens to that?
I think the long view is that remaining neutral has paid off and will pay off. Ruling over massive non Russian populations is a pain in the butt. Russia needs to rule over Baltics or Poland like they need brain cancer. There is a a lot of evidence that Russians subsidized non Russians in the USSR. E.g. central Asians. Even at their height USSR had to put down uprisings in Germany, Hungary, Czech and elsewhere.
Female leaders and feminized males get all shrill about the Ukr invasion. I heard Finland is enacting more sanctions that will hurt Finland. Finland closed some border crossings bc Finland says 700 illegals crossed from RU in the past year. Meanwhile, the EU sanctions countries that stop illegals. If you pay attention, many of these feminized leaders are acting to get their next jobs in the globalized world institutions. WEF? UN? INF? World Bank? Lobbyists? Consulting firms? They do not care bout their citizens. German Scholz recently went nuts, blaming Russia for shutting down the gs supply. What is his next job?
I'll go with "Pedo Pimp"...
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https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/germany-sends-a-tank-brigade-that?r=mra7c&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Around 13 min he says this new German armor division has no tanks.
Germany Sends a Tank Brigade That Literally Has NO TANKS to Lithuania to “Defend from Russia”, Where Can Kiev Regime Find a Half Million Ukrainian Bodies to Mass Forced Conscript?
My impression of NATO has been bad for decades. More trivia
Fulgurite
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Today's pathetic state of Germany's 'army' is partly the result of Ursula von der Leyen tenure as Germany's defence minister, during which she was more concerned about female hygiene products in men's toilets and LGBTQ+ 'diversity', than actually having a military capable of waging war. Ursula was of course BFF of Angela Merkel, and "Ushi" was very blackmailable because of some 'plagiarism' details during her time in university, very similar to how Annalena Baerbock has many unanswered questions regarding her curriculum vitae. By the way, Olaf Scholz is also blackmailable, because he is probably balls deep involved in one of the largest corruption scandals in Europe regarding some tax evasion trick that many prestigious European investment banks did to avoid paying dividend taxes. The dividend tax trick is called the CumEx. One of those prestigious investment banks is called Warburg Bank and is headquartered in the German city of Hamburg....where Olaf Scholz used to be mayor. I'm sure the NSA has all the phone calls, emails, and text messages between Scholz and the CEO of Warburg Bank... 😉
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files (I'm not a big fan of Wikipedia, but it's a quick summary)
(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7898317-103a-44b3-80d0-c8778fe610e3_960x600.webp)
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Sorry lost the link. I heard that Germany(?) just had an exercise in which 18 out of 18 APCs broke down.
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People get cheap lazy and stupid when they really on somebody else...
::smallestviolin::
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I heard something while half asleep via YT.
Turkey refused to let minesweepers into the black sea. Then changed their mind.
Maybe Turkey will get F-16s?
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I'd rather give the scumbag Turk's what the F-16's are capable of delivering...
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I am easily amused.
Also, Alex reports on the latest EU circus. The head of the EU council is to step down. If nothing is done Orban get the position so EU is going nuts. EU owes Hungary pots of money (from covid?) but refuses to pay. EU wants to give Ukr lots of money but Hungary can veto. Orban is proposing terms.
Some Finnish EU MP proposed removing Hungary's right to vote.
https://youtu.be/Ttoyx0cVCWI
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Oh sure...like die deutschen and their main opposition party - just ban it! It's the Obama/FJB solution to suppressing non-totalitarian politicians from threatening totalitarian birthright to rule over all souls!
So many despots!!!!!!!!!
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Well, I reckon we'll see how badly America got raped by that asshat Erdogan in the coming weeks/months!!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/turkey-approves-swedens-accession-nato-after-20-month-delay (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/turkey-approves-swedens-accession-nato-after-20-month-delay)
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ZH keeps hyping this...
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/largest-ever-nato-exercises-rehearse-russian-attack-europe (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/largest-ever-nato-exercises-rehearse-russian-attack-europe)
...but such exercises regularly occur and as I've said before the only risk is if they use the Putin Plan and use an exercise to buildup for an invasion...which I doubt. All routine saber rattling...and we are still chained to the obsolete outfit...
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Here is part of the payoff to that POS Erdogan...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-moves-forward-23bn-warplane-sale-turkey (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-moves-forward-23bn-warplane-sale-turkey)
...and I suspect there may be more...I mean this is the corrupt FJB regime after all...WTF do they care about cost?
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Uni Party trash is so braindead...and obviously no better than petty thugs...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/bipartisan-group-us-senators-flies-hungary-bully-orban/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/bipartisan-group-us-senators-flies-hungary-bully-orban/)
You send two flaming bags of sh!t to Orban's front door and are clueless as to why they don't bother opening the door?
And the flaming bags of sh!t have nothing to offer except bullying and threats?
You're lucky he didn't arrest your stupid asses!!!
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/hungarian-parliament-finally-approves-swedens-nato-accession-bid/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/hungarian-parliament-finally-approves-swedens-nato-accession-bid/)
Rolled over for a few fighters?
::facepalm::
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(https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/Nato-Defense-Spending_Site.jpg)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/breaking-down-13t-nato-defense-spending (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/breaking-down-13t-nato-defense-spending)
::outrage::
So sick of this BS!
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He gives reasons why NATO will fall apart.
Then he says US may use nukes if we lose carriers.
Then around 14 min he lists the places Erdogan just purchased or leased in the Middle East. Port of Alexandria, southern tip of Sinai (c) , someplace in Somalia (Eyl?) near Djibouti? Southern tip of Sinai?
https://youtu.be/g5yEBhcFWww?t=790
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson: Who Will Use Nukes First?
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Makes my point...we the people are not batshyt insane...the DeepState and the dirt they have on UniParty trash running us into Hell are the problem...just how is that problem to be resolved to avoid disaster? ::whatgives::
And I would not call Erdogan astute, I would call him calculating egomaniac...a Trojan Horse on the Southeast NATO flank...and why we or anybody in Europe trusts that POS shows how insane the lunatics running things are...most sensible people could do is boot Turkey, invade and occupy them, but none of them are that smart...
NATO is a sh!tshow we should not partake in...we should no longer carry Europe, it has gone on far too long...
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/nato-starts-major-drill-near-russias-border-20k/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/nato-starts-major-drill-near-russias-border-20k/)
No carriers or Amphib's, so no serious offensive assets in place...barring air assets in play...
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The Trump Effect...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trumps-tough-talk-works-eu-commissioner-plans-boost/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/trumps-tough-talk-works-eu-commissioner-plans-boost/)
And I care not if it is fear-driven...anything that makes it easier for us to decouple from these losers the better.
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I heard they want EU war bonds plus EU wide tax.
Also, I get annoying YT ads in my feed. NATO good, Trump bad for criticizing NATO.
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Algorithms are written by demons....
SSDD
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See this?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/orbans-revenge-hungary-rejects-dutch-pm-ruttes-candidacy-head-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/orbans-revenge-hungary-rejects-dutch-pm-ruttes-candidacy-head-nato)
;D
But, whatever...They/Them are up to no good...opposing all of the Totalitarians is not only necessary, it is mandatory.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-alarmed-enough-begin-wargaming-food-crisis (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-alarmed-enough-begin-wargaming-food-crisis)
And we'll see how long this holds...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/turkish-port-halts-russian-oil-imports-amid-sanctions-pressure (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/turkish-port-halts-russian-oil-imports-amid-sanctions-pressure)
...I predict black market activities.
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FWIW...regardless of slant...there are uncomfortable truths and questions We the People have a right to discuss...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-so-great-about-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-so-great-about-nato)
...but what I said in the Ukraine thread stands...the DeepState and its puppets in leadership don't care if the Earth roasts and we along with it...they have zero interest in doing what is best for all of us...just what is best for them...which the fools themselves will not survive...
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FWIW...regardless of slant...there are uncomfortable truths and questions We the People have a right to discuss...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-so-great-about-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-so-great-about-nato)
...but what I said in the Ukraine thread stands...the DeepState and its puppets in leadership don't care if the Earth roasts and we along with it...they have zero interest in doing what is best for all of us...just what is best for them...which the fools themselves will not survive...
I am still getting lots of YT ads. One is a video clip from Fox 5 on how Trump said Russia should attack countries behind in their NATO dues. Another is how great NATO is and how Trumps is anti NATO.
I had no idea Trump has a big mouth. Now I will not vote for him. /s
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Looks like somebody prepping the cyber battlefield of a pro-Russian nature...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-estonia-state-agencies-hit-intense-cyberattacks (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-estonia-state-agencies-hit-intense-cyberattacks)
Just pull up the Bitdefender map anytime, see who's thumping who...it happens constantly all over the globe.
In other news...Trump warns deadbeat Euro's - https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-no-more-free-milk-nato-free-loaders (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-no-more-free-milk-nato-free-loaders)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-ordering-troops-along-finland-border-response-nato-accession (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-ordering-troops-along-finland-border-response-nato-accession)
Not unexpected.
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It is a breach of contract...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/natos-welfare-states-treating-us-room-service (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/natos-welfare-states-treating-us-room-service)
...but the DeepState controlled UniParty trash doesn't care, the UniParty fat-cats funding them don't care (and often tied into the DeepState plans for economic exploitation opportunities)...and not enough citizens GAFF...
It's what DOOMED looks like...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/military/germany-reportedly-goes-military-spending-spree-hit-nato-spending-minimums (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/germany-reportedly-goes-military-spending-spree-hit-nato-spending-minimums)
Spend, you damned Krauts, spend!
And after November? ::saywhat::
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FWIW...info most people should already know...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/where-nato-has-enhanced-forward-presence (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/where-nato-has-enhanced-forward-presence)
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I was half asleep. I may summarize later.
https://youtu.be/FK24zr83XkQ
Ukraine is Collapsing and NATO Will Fall Apart | Col. Larry Wilkerson
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NATO cannot fall apart...if it does then nukes will fly...
Same for Russia, Russia cannot lose...if it begins to...nukes fly...
Looks like no option where nukes don't fly...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-wars-are-making-turkiyes-relationship-west-politically-untenable (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-wars-are-making-turkiyes-relationship-west-politically-untenable)
Idiot writing this is obviously missing a few things for whatever reason...like Turkey kissing a lot of income away by being bitchy with Israel and cutting exports...especially given their shaky economy. Our inflation might look bad to (snort!) the Italians of all people, but compared to Turkey's inflation we are looking really good.
But, hey...since FJB and the cucks are too stupid to leave NATO maybe a decent consolation prize is getting the dipsh*t Turks to pull out.
::praying::