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Topics => Economy => Topic started by: radioman on July 19, 2011, 02:54:58 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/19/us-usa-debt-gang-idUSTRE76I5CK20110719 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/19/us-usa-debt-gang-idUSTRE76I5CK20110719)
Teaser:
A bipartisan group of U.S. senators on Tuesday revived an ambitious budget plan that could provide new ideas for breaking the impasse in Congress over raising the nation's credit limit by August 2.
Another tax increase I'm sure - we need to defeat the repubs that sign on to this stuff.....
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I don't see how it's possible to interpret, "$1.2 trillion in new revenues," as anything other than tax increases.
The Stupid Party.
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The Stupid Party? THE TRAITOR PARTY!!
This goes through, WE'RE SCREWED.
Ah f**k it, we were screwed anyway.
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SOB's screw us again!
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I've had it with these bastards! All they do is snatch defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again!
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Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who was never thrilled about the Gang of Six deliberations, said he hasn’t “had a chance to decide how I feel about it.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59377.html#ixzz1Sb68cC1i (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59377.html#ixzz1Sb68cC1i)
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The House has to feel absolutely betrayed!
::cussing:: ::angry:: ::gaah::
I hope the House hangs tough, but, hell, the chickensh*t bastards in the Senate have written the narrative and failure to follow it over the cliff will have them pilloried by the MFM and these spineless SOB's fear that pack of stupid mongrels more than they fear us!
They just want to run for the exits and start bullsh*tting the American people this is the best they could do!
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That narrative is a steaming pile, but far be it from me to expect the idiots across America to recognize the best a fvcking coward can do and the best a person of good character and conscience can do!
If this goes through it is an epic fail!
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Too bad it only impacts the future of the nation, a future that looks like sh*t with each passing second!
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If this deal happens I wash my hands of them!
We keep talking about holding these bastards accountable but it just seems like I am wasting my time trying to convince them!
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Stupid is forever...
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Mark Levin was absolutely livid about this at the beginning of his show. Even more livid than usual.
ETA: I just heard him say, "Wow! I can't pick my own light bulb but I get to pick a Senator? Cool!" ::hysterical::
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Mark Levin was absolutely livid about this at the beginning of his show. Even more livid than usual.
ETA: I just heard him say, "Wow! I can't pick my own light bulb but I get to pick a Senator? Cool!" ::hysterical::
I know; I was/am listening. I'm about as livid as he. I have to say that for the first time, this evening, after contemplating what the Republicans are in the process of doing, it seems we are actually going to have Obamacare fully implemented and definitely imposed on us, and we'll be trying to deal with that on top of the coming crash. That adds despair to the rage.
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They want us to despair.
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At this point I think we need a full crash and reset. I hope the crash comes before Obamacare is implemented. That could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Countries that already have socialized medicine will have a harder time trying to reconstitute a private system from the ruins.
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They want us to despair.
I know; I can't seem to ward it off some days. This is one of them. In lieu of channeling it into something .... else ..... it lurks, eating holes in my stomach.
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I'm too pissed to despair just yet!
I'm going out for a beer and a stogie, that usually clears my mind.
It's gonna have to be more than one beer and one of my larger primo's though!
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The President’s Spending Cut Prediction was Only Off by 4,000 Billion Dollars. (http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/07/19/the-presidents-spending-cut-prediction-was-only-off-by-4000-billion-dollars/)
We need a real debate, not talking points (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyrR2KjbwSs#)
Dirty, Smelly, Difficult, and Short Lives - DSDSL
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They're all FOS you had Mitch come out and say he didn't kow how he feels about it because he hasn't looked at it,that's bull!!Bambi come out praising the hell out of the plan but he hasn't had a chance to look at it completely,And that's bull too.
We've been looking at the meetings and they were working accross town where we were not looking.Beck was right,watch the other hand!!
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House passes cut, cap & balance 234-190.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/19/house-approves-cut-cap-and-balance-plan/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/19/house-approves-cut-cap-and-balance-plan/)
If a filibuster in the Senate could be maintained to kill the vile Obamakov/GangOf6 POS, then maybe there is a chance people will come to the House way of thinking, otherwise it is grab your ankle time.
And where in this cut-free tax-heavy GangOf6 plan does the burden fall on hardest - individuals of course!
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/trillion-revenue-plate?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29 (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/trillion-revenue-plate?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29)
Any Repub voting for this GangOf6 sh*t is going to be targeted for involuntary early retirement with extreme prejudice!
Not even the often wishy-washy Minnesota Repub's enjoy it harder in the shorts from DemonRats than these Senate Repub's in DC!
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2068.new.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2068.new.html#new)
::gaah::
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If a filibuster in the Senate could be maintained to kill the vile Obamakov/GangOf6 POS, then maybe there is a chance people will come to the House way of thinking, otherwise it is grab your ankle time.
Any Repub voting for this GangOf6 sh*t is going to be targeted for involuntary early retirement with extreme prejudice!
2012 may be too late. And not sure we Tea Party) will have the strength to bring enough incumbents down
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If a filibuster in the Senate could be maintained to kill the vile Obamakov/GangOf6 POS, then maybe there is a chance people will come to the House way of thinking, otherwise it is grab your ankle time.
Any Repub voting for this GangOf6 sh*t is going to be targeted for involuntary early retirement with extreme prejudice!
2012 may be too late. And not sure we Tea Party) will have the strength to bring enough incumbents down
Probably true, but I'll go through the motions even as I plan for the inevitable...
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That's what I'm doing,too, Libertas
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We can only do what we can!
::thumbsup::
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Obviously they have no "fear" of the electorate. Until that changes, nothing else will. And yeah, it's going to come to that.
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We're going to have to ante up then, aren't we.
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I love the way the Commie Left Media refers to any group of politicians as "The Gang Of ( fill in your number)" .
It harkens back to the days of Chairman Mao and purge trials .
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Or the reporter previously covered the local beat and is an unreformed urbanite who loves gangs and as such cannot conceive of another term?
Anyway, I agree Pan, up the ante!!!
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Oh, and here's one leftard hack who lacks the good grace to just drop deal already and persists in shooting his mouth off!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/20/sen_harkin_cult_fringe_holding_up_debt_ceiling_increase.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/20/sen_harkin_cult_fringe_holding_up_debt_ceiling_increase.html)
Yeah, it's all the Tea Party's fault and they're a bunch of "cult fringe" lunatics...
...what a complete ass!
::mooning::
"Democrats are willing to do whatever is necessary to raise the debt ceiling, not for future borrowing but to pay the debts that we racked up in the past. Which, mostly was racked up by a Republican House, a Republican Senate and a Republican President in the last 8 years. Yet, they're not willing to pay the bills,"
If there is a bigger lying piece of trash...(well that's a hell of a race with leftards if you ask me, save that debate for a different thread)...
Does this moron not recognize the self-negating effect of his words? Does he think just the mere act of raising the debt limit will miraculously result in lower debt and less demand for debt? What a dipstick! And he has the gall to blame Repub's for all the debt? Their fvcking Messiah Obama blew away Bush debt in 1/8 the time! These people are truly minions of Satan! How else can you lie with such sincerity?!
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Oh, and now O'Bluffer is willing to have a stop-gap bill...but only if it gets him the big deal he wants...the big deal the chickensh*t Senate Repub's are all too eager to give him!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017070/Obama-U-turn-accepts-extension-debt-limit-days-broader-deal-place.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017070/Obama-U-turn-accepts-extension-debt-limit-days-broader-deal-place.html)
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They're going to cave and it's going to be a big political victory for the Democrats. Again. Be ready for it. The only thing that gives me any semblance of comfort anymore is the knowledge that the whole rotten house of cards is going to collapse. And let's be honest, if this is the best "the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" can do, then it deserves extinction.
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Yeah...
It just sucks for the true innocents...
...the rest I have no sympathy for at all.
Zip
Zero
Nada
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Link (http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/21/when-the-boys-in-leadership-flee-will-the-freedom-fighters-in-the-house-hold-the-line/)
[blockquote]Reporters are starting to whisper to each other and some are even starting to write about it. John Boehner and Eric Cantor are ready to give up. The vote was just for show. They think because Cut, Cap, and Balance won’t pass the Senate, it is time to embrace either MItch McConnell or Gang of Six. It’s sad that House leaders want their own to pick their poison, Pontius Pilate or Gangrene. Fellas, if you haven’t noticed, poison kills you.
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The only intelligent response to O'Bluffer & the Gangrene6!
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Interesting take on options facing us re: debt -
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cbo-report-we-have-three-options-only-one-viable-%E2%80%93-different-plan-consider?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29 (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cbo-report-we-have-three-options-only-one-viable-%E2%80%93-different-plan-consider?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29)
I don't agree with everything this Bruce fellow says, but the debate among posters is vigorous and worth the read. People are making some good points though, in between the finger-pointing and all.
ETA - And I don't know where all this is going or if this ends the Gangrene Six gambit, but Obama & Boehner are dealing...God help us!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-gop-leaders-said-to-discuss-new-debt-plan/2011/07/21/gIQAT81BSI_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-gop-leaders-said-to-discuss-new-debt-plan/2011/07/21/gIQAT81BSI_print.html)
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The Obamakov Agenda -
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Resistance is not futile, it is mandatory!
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html)
Unless Obamakov & Reid come up with a detailed plan I see no point in any meetings...the Dem's own this mess and they can choke on it!
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Weekend was all full of blather wasn't it? Now we have Boehner & Reid going at it, both supposedly leaving Obama out of it. Obama's been out of it for some time! God knows what we'll get stuck with...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/24/debt-brinkmanship-goes-down-wire/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/24/debt-brinkmanship-goes-down-wire/)
I don't fear a shutdown, and that's all on Obama anyway, so whatever...
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html)
Unless Obamakov & Reid come up with a detailed plan I see no point in any meetings...the Dem's own this mess and they can choke on it!
He's following the campaign meme,all platitudes and no details.
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/no-deal-debt-ceiling-talks-between-obama-boehner-break-down.html)
Unless Obamakov & Reid come up with a detailed plan I see no point in any meetings...the Dem's own this mess and they can choke on it!
He's following the campaign meme,all platitudes and no details.
Yup. He does what he accuses others of...scare-mongering and politics...and the MFM gladly gives him a pass for not offering any specific plans and gets giddy when he goes out scaring seniors. And these dipsh*ts think this guy is exercising good leadership? Negotiating with the brain-dead is a dead-end!
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Had to stop watching the debt ceiling debate......We are gonna cave, so whats the point. I'm not sure if there is a re group left to muster.
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Seeing those pukes on TV got my rage on...
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2307.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2307.0.html)
We'll see what's in the details...