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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.

When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?
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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.

When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?

They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.
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By Design? If so, whom is the Model? Perhaps, The Third Reich?

Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review


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"The Office of Management and Budget estimates that about half of all federal employees perform tasks that are not "inherently governmental"...

Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review


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"The United States' deep and structural financial imbalances are the result of decades of overpromising and overspending.  With a near-stagnant economy, an already heavy debt burden and the looming explosive growth of programs such as Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid, Washington must take significant steps to get spending under control.  While President Obama repeatedly promised on the campaign trail in 2008 that he would perform a line-by-line review of the federal budget, eliminating waste and cutting excess programs, it does not appear that any such process has yet taken place.  When it does, however, a few principles can help to guide the process that will ensure that the review is effective and comprehensive in addressing the nation's budgetary woes, says Veronique de Rugy, a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center.

First, a reviewing committee must target and eliminate the most obvious examples of wasteful spending. These include duplicated programs or those that perform the same function, such as the 47 job training and 56 financial literacy programs that exist throughout the federal government.
Second, serious scrutiny must be given to those programs and agencies that are either unable or unwilling to assess their own effectiveness and impact.
Third, the government should recognize functions that it currently performs that can easily be passed onto the private sector. The Office of Management and Budget estimates that about half of all federal employees perform tasks that are not "inherently governmental," lending credence to the claim that government has expanded far beyond the realm of public necessity.
Finally, spending cuts should include cuts to federal programs that ought to be left to state and local governments. This encourages state-centric solutions, locally tailored policies that take advantage of region-specific circumstances and greater fiscal discipline.
These four principles together offer a comprehensive strategy for tackling the federal budget and implementing the necessary cuts to reverse the current direction of federal finances."

Source: Veronique de Rugy, "Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review," Mercatus Center, October 5, 2011.



For text:

http://mercatus.org/sites/default/files/publication/Administration-Efforts-on-Line-By-Line-Budget-Review.pdf



For more on Tax and Spending Issues:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=25

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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.

When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?

They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.

I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny?  I sure as hell am not.  Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term?  Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot?  I sure as hell don't!  And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions.  The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it.  So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising.  Thus, my recent harpings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists!  It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take.  Anything else is a bunch of if's and but's and a load of self-denial IMO.
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I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny?  I sure as hell am not.  Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term?  Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot?  I sure as hell don't!  And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions.  The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it.  So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising.  Thus, my recent harpings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists!  It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take.  Anything else is a bunch of if's and but's and a load of self-denial IMO.

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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.

When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?

They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.

I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny?  I sure as hell am not.  Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term?  Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot?  I sure as hell don't!  And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions.  The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it.  So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising.  Thus, my recent happenings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists!  It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take.  Anything else is a bunch of if's and but and a load of self-denial IMO.



Therein Lies the problem, Bush came in and did his 8 years with blinders on and if Romney is elected he will do the same. What that means, another Obama type Liberal in 4 or 8 years. In fact, none of the Candidates I see running would do anything about the Liberal problem. Republicans in general would do nothing about the Liberal problem.

There was only one in all the prospective Candidates who may have run, and that was Sarah Palin. Well, the establishment Repubs, and the Mainstream Media and the Liberals in general knocked her down, and now we have squat. What Conservatives need is a Teddy Roosevelt type Bull, with a Reaganesque attitude. She is still waiting, need to give her a call before it is to late.

Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!

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If nominated, she would run, but people of latter day America are not predisposed of the requisite mettle for such a bold act.

Of the current crop only Cain holds any chance to upset the Ruling Class apple cart, being he is the only remaining outsider in the mix.

(Yes, I am discounting Paul, so PaulBots begone!  Paul is beyond outside, he's too effing n-v-t-s nvts!)
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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It's so frustrating when I bring up Cain with people I know.  So many people are of the belief... He's not electable.  We must get behind Romney because he's the only one that can beat O'Bummer.

It's like people just give up on something better because they're scared that it might be work/difficult to actually fix something with a candidate you're not fully embarrassed to have voted for.

Another thing I want to vent about....

Fox News goes on about Cain being conservative... and Romney being more moderate.

Moderate?

Why don't they just come out and say... Romney has more socialist and communist tendencies?

The word moderate is defined as what?  A sellout?  Someone without a spine?  Someone that will do and say anything to be liked by people that want to destroy their way of life?

My definition of Moderate: Frick'n douche bag.

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It's so frustrating when I bring up Cain with people I know.  So many people are of the belief... He's not electable.  We must get behind Romney because he's the only one that can beat OBummer.

It's like people just give up on something better because they're scared that it might be work/difficult to actually fix something with a candidate you're not fully embarrassed to have voted for.

Another thing I want to vent about....

Fox News goes on about Cain being conservative... and Romney being more moderate.

Moderate?

Why don't they just come out and say... Romney has more socialist and communist tendencies?

The word moderate is defined as what?  A sellout?  Someone without a spine?  Someone that will do and say anything to be liked by people that want to destroy their way of life?

My definition of Moderate: Frickin douche bag.



The problem: "Settling!" Romney would be a good president for a couple of years, maybe even 4. After that, another Obama! All the current Candidates are settling. No different than 2008. The future sucks, because Liberals will mount another charge, and that ain't healthy. If we had a true Conservative, we could then make way for the new and coming Republicans, like Rubio, or West, or better yet, Ryan. This will not happen with the current crop, business as usual, no real reforms. Everyone remember 2010, after the election? We said never again, well guess what? They're back, and what are we going to do about it? ::praying::

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...Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!

The filing deadline is Monday. If you're gonna talk her into entering the primary race, you better talk quick and smooth!
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...Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!

The filing deadline is Monday. If you're gonna talk her into entering the primary race, you better talk quick and smooth!


Weekly, at least! I think, she thinks I am a fruit loop! ::whatgives::

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I get really angry when I hear people make dismissive comments about Cain having run Godfather's Pizza. "Pizza man" and "a guy who ran a pizza chain" comments. What have we become when someone who established a reputation of coming into businesses on the brink of bankruptcy, and turning them around in a short time to profitable enterprises, is dismissed as somehow being inadequate for the job? Especially when you contrast this with all the fawning over the towering intellect of the current occupant, who never held a real job at any time in his life.

Most of the problems with our economic, fiscal, and social policies are precisely because we haven't had more "pizza men" in office. We seem to have allowed the creation of a sort of technocratic neo-feudal arrangement, where the political class (both in elected office and the bureaucracy) are the equivalent of the aristocracy and clergy from the original feudalism. They are more or less groomed from birth to spend an entire career in some government sinecure, detached from the where/why/how of actual wealth-generation. And the cherry on top is that they harbor an undisguised and haughty disdain for the people who actually do real work, people like Cain.
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I get doubly disgusted when I see conservatives disparage Cain's private sector experience as somehow inadequate to the task. People hate politicians, but they want to run him down because he's not a politician?

But Cain's response is picture perfect, and it needs to be repeated as a mantra: "How's THAT workin' out for ya?"

I think Barone was onto something the other day. I think Cain is weathering his gaffes and polling well because people are taking an assessment of the man's character, and like what they see. And the fact that he has never held a political office AND is being scourged by the "experts" is very attractive to a lot of people.
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 We seem to have allowed the creation of a sort of technocratic neo-feudal arrangement, where the political class (both in elected office and the bureaucracy) are the equivalent of the aristocracy and clergy from the original feudalism. They are more or less groomed from birth to spend an entire career in some government sinecure, detached from the where/why/how of actual wealth-generation. And the cherry on top is that they harbor an undisguised and haughty disdain for the people who actually do real work, people like Cain.

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Brit Hume was born Alexander Britton Hume in Washington, D.C., the son of Virginia Powell (née Minnigerode) Hume and George Graham Hume. He attended St. Albans School at the same time as Al Gore and graduated from the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia, with a Bachelor of Arts in English in 1965.

http://celebrityprepschools.com/
This page is a jaw dropper.  Prep school graduates go on with their lives but how
many public personalities are prep graduates really pops the bubble thought that
"we all worked our way up" and gives proof to G's quote.

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 I think Barone was onto something the other day. I think Cain is weathering his gaffes and polling well because people are taking an assessment of the man's character, and like what they see. And the fact that he has never held a political office AND is being scourged by the "experts" is very attractive to a lot of people.

The media pulls the same stunt on the other candidates, Bachmann and Perry for example.
He has faced down his adversity with a rough business skill and has succeeded in breaking
through the media barrage.  Doing so  speaks well to his managerial skills.  So far, neither Bachmann nor Perry have been able to do this.


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IDP and Charles, both correct.

Cain was a topic of discussion today with a group of businesspeople I meet with each month. Overwhelmingly, everyone appreciated his skills as a manager as his campaign unfolds, even if it lacks a little polish.. The guy exudes confidence and character. He is not an insider. He is a leader. Leaders pull companies from the brink. Leaders make hard decisions. Leaders create an atmosphere people want to follow, when there is substance and track record. We can have a disagreement with a leader we respect, because it will not result to chaos.

 
If I wanted a slick talkin' telepromtor puppet, i'd vote for obama. If I want a slick talkin' non telepromptor politican, i'd vote for romney. I want neither. The American people have the opportunity to break the antiquated, broken and unreliable mold of what is considered a good presidential candidate. It's time to break the mold.
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