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DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« on: February 27, 2015, 08:33:23 AM »


http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/geheime-staatspolizei-briefer/

I cannot get their link to load...but...are we not all sovereign citizens?  Are the fascists so brazenly open about their fascism that they can get in our faces with it and dare act all pious and pure because some citizens refuse to become docile serfs or mindless automatons to state dictates?

Judging from the comments it appears a couple dozen instances of people telling the state to bugger off somehow warrants a Federal agency to declare an imminent threat greater than even the death-cult of Mohammad?

Yeah.  Solution in search of a problem, much?

But of course these people see the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as nothing more than weapons of mass destruction aimed at the very noble and enlightened rule of the Masters of the State, the quaint notion that people are endowed by their Creator with rights and responsibilities greater than any mortal can grant a government is by their definition a subversive element that much be crushed into oblivion!

Make us your enemies, make us your criminals...resist we much!!!

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 09:07:44 AM »
It opened for me - popped the full PDF onto my Dropbox (download it here)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jye538rtf9a32bj/Sovereign_Citizen_Extremist_Ideology_2-5-15.pdf?dl=0

The Declaration/Constitution distributes sovereignty as follows: God / Individual / State (as a firewall).

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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2015, 09:19:27 AM »
It opened for me - popped the full PDF onto my Dropbox (download it here)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jye538rtf9a32bj/Sovereign_Citizen_Extremist_Ideology_2-5-15.pdf?dl=0

The Declaration/Constitution distributes sovereignty as follows: God / Individual / State (as a firewall).

#WaterTheTree|#WaterTheTree|#WaterTheTree|#WaterTheTree|#WaterTheTree|#WaterTheTree|

The State sees it as: Federal Government / State Government / Local Government / Serf

Who is the criminal again?

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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 04:55:58 PM »
Not sure what's up here - there's a group who actually call themselves "Sovereign Citizens"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement - and they're a bit whacky - maybe this document refers to them...but we also know that Obama/Left considers us uneducated scum, unable to make our own decisions.
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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 06:49:17 AM »
Not sure what's up here - there's a group who actually call themselves "Sovereign Citizens"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement - and they're a bit whacky - maybe this document refers to them...but we also know that Obama/Left considers us uneducated scum, unable to make our own decisions.

Not "a bit", but full on wacky.
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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 06:54:17 PM »
Feds raid political meeting of sovereign citizens.. over misfiled paperwork


http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/feds-raid-texas-political-meeting/#PokDUHViu5JGcJBM.99


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Re: DHS - The Threat of the Sovereign Citizen
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2015, 06:48:28 AM »
They are not wrong about Sherrif's, they and the US Marshalls are/were the closest to the people and the closest to what law enforcement has traditionally been in America.  I have other thoughts about this group maybe better left unsaid.  Suffice it to say I think they can serve a useful purpose with repsect to the end game.  The Feds might be referring to this group but their aim is at anyone harboring even a hint of anti-State sentiment.  And as I stated in the other thread about that raid Weisshaupt posted here...you can disagree with these people but the heavy-handed tactics of the State is not hurting their cause or helping the State one bit.  Hence, the role of these people is obvious.

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.