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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Libertas on February 11, 2014, 08:22:51 AM

Title: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 11, 2014, 08:22:51 AM
Ted Cruz sighting Iowa.  Let the eligible/not eligible debate begin!  (Is the "their guy did it so it's OK if our guy does it" rationale valid?)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/02/10/ted-cruz-stoking-2016-talk-plans-march-trip-to-iowa//?print=1 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/02/10/ted-cruz-stoking-2016-talk-plans-march-trip-to-iowa//?print=1)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 11, 2014, 09:27:37 AM
I am of mixed feelings on this.

First, to clear the air.
I'm not convinced that BO Sr is the daddy.
I'm of the opinion that there is a possibility that Frank Marshall Davis could be in the running. Or damn near anyone else.

Now, to your question.
Sometimes, I think there are much bigger problems we need to deal with before we get strict Constructionist.

Other times, I think that without the Constitution, we have nothing
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 11, 2014, 10:00:10 AM
American mother, Cuban father. By the standard that has been accepted in the case of Obama, Cruz is eligible.

The irony is that in listening to his father speak, Ted Cruz was raised by one of the most undeniably American patriots imaginable.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2014, 05:56:54 AM
Those damned Hitlery haters at it again!

/

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/clinton-volunteer-hillary-is-the-war-on-women/ (http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/clinton-volunteer-hillary-is-the-war-on-women/)

“Hillary Clinton is the war on women, and that’s what needs to be exposed here,”

Well, the MFM gonna have to crush this or 'ol Cankles will have to do it herself!

I sure hope this gets nasty!   ::stirpot::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2014, 11:46:21 AM
The only reason to elevate a non-traditional RINO/AINO Ruling Class candidate this early is to build them up so you can utterly destroy them later and give the Ruling Class the cover they need to say once again "Well, we tried that, the people rejected it, and we have to move to the center and get behind a candidate who can win and pull in moderates and pick off some Democrats in the general election" yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah...

Same old excrement!

http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/rand-paul-is-the-gop-s-early-presidential-front-runner-20140225 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/rand-paul-is-the-gop-s-early-presidential-front-runner-20140225)

Rovians are already huddled over their cauldrons, breathing the vapors of their own hellish rot, giddy at the prospects of once again raping the conservative and backstabbing the Tea Party....bwuuuhaahaaa!...they can't wait to unleash their typical tripe and dirty tricks...these demon-spawned creatures are hiding in the shadows...time to enter their liar and set them on fire!!!  Yeah, that won't happen either!  Embrace the typical, relish in the mind-numbing sameness and stupidity we've all come to loath and detest!

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 26, 2014, 12:01:44 PM
It's Santorum's turn
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
 ::facepalm::

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/fukitol-1.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/apathy.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/stupid.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/losing.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on February 26, 2014, 04:32:33 PM
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Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2014, 07:05:21 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/LOL/lol-cartoon-ag1.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2014, 11:41:57 AM
Like I care...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/rumors-persist-that-hillary-wont-run-because-health-is-worse-than-disclosed/# (http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/rumors-persist-that-hillary-wont-run-because-health-is-worse-than-disclosed/#)!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/givearipmeter-1_zps7c0cef67.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on February 28, 2014, 12:46:36 PM
To have brain cancer or a brain tumor, she'd have to have a brain first.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on February 28, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
Doesn't seem our nation has that kind of luck anymore........

What's amazing that she is still the front runner in spite of Benghazi!!!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: MacWell™ on March 01, 2014, 04:00:41 AM
She can be the frontrunner, the side favorite, or the bacon-cheeseburger for all I care. She will NEVER be elected President. Too many in the Military hate her, and in November, they WILL vote, as will most of those who were content to be part of the silent majority. Have no doubts though, this year, and 2016, are the last chance to peacefully retake America. If we don't do it the peaceful way, I believe we the people will take to the streets en-mass. I too thought Americans were asleep still, but I must say, after reading and seeing just how many ordinary, everyday folks that are speaking out against this unconstitutional administration, it gives me hope that my children and grandchildren will not have to live through a civil war. But, the ball's in their court... let's see what their next move is?
Shall we?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on March 01, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
She can be the frontrunner, the side favorite, or the bacon-cheeseburger for all I care. She will NEVER be elected President.

Sure. And the SCoaMF wouldn't make a 2nd term.

Gold. Silver. And lead.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on March 01, 2014, 07:07:12 AM
Too many in the Military hate her, and in November, they WILL vote, as will most of those who were content to be part of the silent majority. Have no doubts though, this year, and 2016, are the last chance to peacefully retake America.

They'll just not count the military votes, like last time.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 01, 2014, 12:34:16 PM
She can be the frontrunner, the side favorite, or the bacon-cheeseburger for all I care. She will NEVER be elected President.

Sure. And the SCoaMF wouldn't make a 2nd term.

Gold. Silver. And lead.

That was the pubbie's race to lose - and lose it they did.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on March 01, 2014, 03:00:19 PM
She can be the frontrunner, the side favorite, or the bacon-cheeseburger for all I care. She will NEVER be elected President.

Sure. And the SCoaMF wouldn't make a 2nd term.

Gold. Silver. And lead.

That was the pubbie's race to lose - and lose it they did.

And I don't see it being any different this time.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 05, 2014, 11:41:39 AM
Must keep the heat on the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi too, not buying the BS she isn't going to run, won't be allowed to run, blah blah blah...

http://im41.com/archives/47145 (http://im41.com/archives/47145)

Never forget, never forgive...never let up on destroying her, ever!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 12, 2014, 07:31:55 AM
Another competitor entering the DemonRat fray?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/11/inside-the-beltway-a-new-interested-in-rahm-emanue/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/11/inside-the-beltway-a-new-interested-in-rahm-emanue/)

Sure.  He's done such a good job stuffing Chitcago deeper down the toilet, just think what he could do to Amerika!!!

 ::hysterical::

I was going to say he could be the first Tutu-sporting POTUS, then I remembered who is there now...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on March 12, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
I heard this several months ago and discarded it. He wouldn't have a chance.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on March 12, 2014, 11:56:57 AM
I heard this several months ago and discarded it. He wouldn't have a chance.


At one time I was convinced there was no way the country at-large would tolerate being governed like a Chicago ward.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on March 13, 2014, 03:02:51 PM
I heard this several months ago and discarded it. He wouldn't have a chance.


At one time I was convinced there was no way the country at-large would tolerate being governed like a Chicago ward.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.

I think Rahmbo has the job he wants.   He will be mayor of Chicago for at least the next 25 years.  No term limits like the presidency.   
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 14, 2014, 07:11:43 AM
I heard this several months ago and discarded it. He wouldn't have a chance.


At one time I was convinced there was no way the country at-large would tolerate being governed like a Chicago ward.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.

I think Rahmbo has the job he wants.   He will be mayor of Chicago for at least the next 25 years.  No term limits like the presidency.

Yeah, but he'll always be second fiddle to NYC in pecking order, under 50 Governor's and lorded over by whoever is POTUS...that doesn't sit well for a fella brave enough to sport a tutu, survive Clintons...and then there is that massive beta-male ego craving more and more adulation...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on March 15, 2014, 01:01:03 PM


I think Rahmbo has the job he wants.   He will be mayor of Chicago for at least the next 25 years.  No term limits like the presidency.




Yeah, but he'll always be second fiddle to NYC in pecking order, under 50 Governor's and lorded over by whoever is POTUS...that doesn't sit well for a fella brave enough to sport a tutu, survive Clintons...and then there is that massive beta-male ego craving more and more adulation...








Being mayor of Chicago is like being a governor.   He has more influence as mayor of Chicago then the governor of Illinois at least.  Why do you think Illinois is the basket case it is?   Chicago has been running it into the ground for decades now.   Downstate and the suburbs have little say anymore,  its the Chicago way or the highway. 

Plus he has no conservatives in the city council to have to put up with,  so he gets to live in a liberal bubble 24/7.   Don't discount that,  governors of Illinois do have a few conservatives in the suburbs and downstate to deal with.  Plus he never really has to run for reelection ever again!   Its his job for as long as he wants it.

He isn't second fiddle to NYC either.  He was in office before the kook that just took office in NYC and will still be mayor when that guy is term limited.   

Remember,  even ambitious liberal politicians are lazy at best.   He can go along for decades doing nothing and get praised for it on a daily basis.   

Being mayor of Chicago is  dream job  for the lib politician.     
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on March 15, 2014, 04:52:57 PM
She can be the frontrunner, the side favorite, or the bacon-cheeseburger for all I care. She will NEVER be elected President.

Sure. And the SCoaMF wouldn't make a 2nd term.

Gold. Silver. And lead.

That was the pubbie's race to lose - and lose it they did.

 You got that right!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2014, 11:21:18 AM
Rand opening up shop in all 50 states?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rand-paul-building-national-network-courting-mainstream-support-for-presidential-bid/2014/03/27/568b06de-b50d-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rand-paul-building-national-network-courting-mainstream-support-for-presidential-bid/2014/03/27/568b06de-b50d-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html)

When will the E-GOP strike?  Too early and it would be too obvious and could cause more support to flock to him...too late and they risk controlling the agenda...but that latter can be achieved if they have anything particularly scandalous on him (or can manufacture such)...

My guess is the Rovians are already cutting deals to have certain proglodytes in media and the congressional swamp to begin raising the usual stalking horse talking points levelled on non-club members...

We shall see what we shall see...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 27, 2014, 12:27:40 PM
Rand seems to be ingratiating himself with those people.
Endorsing McConnell and other stuff
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 27, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
Rand seems to be ingratiating himself with those people.
Endorsing McConnell and other stuff

Pure pragmatism. Remember in 2010, McConnell and Cornyn were out early endorsing Paul's establishment opponent, Trey Grayson. Paul won that primary to their chagrin. He's not endorsing McConnell because he has an affinity for Mitch McConnell. He's doing it out of purely cynical pragmatic political considerations. If he wasn't running for President, he'd be endorsing Bevin.

Kind of like Palin endorsing McCain against JD Hayworth in 2010. You know he doesn't really mean it.

By the way, I f**king hate that.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 27, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
IDP, I hate that that is necessary. But my hate of the facts do not change the facts. If we are to remove wicked men from power we must be "wise as a serpent." If Rand Paul is this wise, then we may have hope. I fear that this is not the case, and he truly means what he said, in that he agreed to endorse McConnell when there was no one running against him and is just keeping his word.  Patience is also a quality that makes a good President. So is fore-sight.   
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 27, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
He sure got his endorsement in early enough
I can see the Palin thing, sort of.

But, in the end, she owed McCain nothing.
And she made other questionable endorsements for lesser conservatives than other candidates.
So far, I don't think Rand has gone that far
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
E-GOP changing horses or just covering the field?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/influential-republicans-working-to-draft-jeb-bush-into-2016-presidential-race/2014/03/29/11e33b06-b5f2-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/influential-republicans-working-to-draft-jeb-bush-into-2016-presidential-race/2014/03/29/11e33b06-b5f2-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html)

Either way...time to ratchet up the "Hell No!" network!  Christie, Jeb...what difference is that?!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2014, 07:35:38 AM
Didn't take the Rovian's long to start throwing dirt on Rand...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/rand-paul-says-america-is-partly-to-blame-for-pearl-harbor-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/rand-paul-says-america-is-partly-to-blame-for-pearl-harbor-video/)

...although as dirt goes this isn't really much...

...taken in whole there can be some argument that actions FDR took did make things worse not better with respect to Japan, but that was a different era and a different foe...the militarization of Japan was going to lead to trouble...it was a matter of when not if.  And I would favor a more vigorous response in dealing with Iran than sanctions, so being for or against those means little to me.  Keep them from acquiring technology that can be used in their nuke program or in any kind of weapons use, the rest is usually somewhat futile.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 01, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
Japan was the aggressor and got what they deserved.  But I will admit part of me wonders if FDR didn't -- for a lack of a better term -- "allow" the Japanese attack so that Americans would fully support our entry into the war.

The British had intercepted and decoded Japanese naval communications and warned us that an attack was imminent.  The Japanese strike planes were detected by radar, but those warnings were famously disregarded.  Was it just a lackadaisical attitude from an at-peace nation?  Maybe.  But Libertas is right, there was going to be war with Japan at some point anyway, regardless of when and where the actual flashpoint was.

I'm probably alive today only because of the atomic bomb.  My granddad was in the Navy and in 1945 he and millions of others were being marshaled for an amphibious assault on mainland Japan.  Had it occurred, it would have made Normandy look small.  The atomic bomb made that unnecessary.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on April 01, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
I agree with both of you. Roosevelt was BLOCKADING Japan. They considered that an act of war. And I am absolutely convinced that Roosevelt Knew the attack was coming. He had been warned. The Japanese embassy was evacuated and all their staff left the country.  But, Roosevelt had a problem. I think he truly believed we had to get involved in this war, but did not have the guts to convince a reluctant populace, who still remembered WW1, that it was necessary.  Engineering the "surprise attack" on Pearl Harbor would change the hearts and minds of the American people.  And it worked. 

It is hard for me not to speak judgment on his soul for that crime. If he did not serve in a time that saw men like Hitler and Stalin, it would be easy to call him evil.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 01, 2014, 06:53:20 PM
I agree with both of you. Roosevelt was BLOCKADING Japan. They considered that an act of war. And I am absolutely convinced that Roosevelt Knew the attack was coming. He had been warned. The Japanese embassy was evacuated and all their staff left the country.  But, Roosevelt had a problem. I think he truly believed we had to get involved in this war, but did not have the guts to convince a reluctant populace, who still remembered WW1, that it was necessary.  Engineering the "surprise attack" on Pearl Harbor would change the hearts and minds of the American people.  And it worked. 

It is hard for me not to speak judgment on his soul for that crime. If he did not serve in a time that saw men like Hitler and Stalin, it would be easy to call him evil.

LIHOP

He Let It Happen On Purpose.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
I agree with both of you. Roosevelt was BLOCKADING Japan. They considered that an act of war. And I am absolutely convinced that Roosevelt Knew the attack was coming. He had been warned. The Japanese embassy was evacuated and all their staff left the country.  But, Roosevelt had a problem. I think he truly believed we had to get involved in this war, but did not have the guts to convince a reluctant populace, who still remembered WW1, that it was necessary.  Engineering the "surprise attack" on Pearl Harbor would change the hearts and minds of the American people.  And it worked. 

It is hard for me not to speak judgment on his soul for that crime. If he did not serve in a time that saw men like Hitler and Stalin, it would be easy to call him evil.

LIHOP

He Let It Happen On Purpose.

Good coinage 'Soup!   ::thumbsup::

I added that one to our acronym ledger (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9401.new#new) for you...I got a feeling we'll be utilizing it a lot!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2014, 07:17:29 AM
Y'all see this?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blockbuster-book-deal-for-ted-cruz-1.5m-advance-bigger-than-sarah-palins/article/2546658 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blockbuster-book-deal-for-ted-cruz-1.5m-advance-bigger-than-sarah-palins/article/2546658)

Seems to be the thing to do in latter day America as a prelude to running for POTUS...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 02, 2014, 07:17:22 PM
Quote
I added that one to our acronym ledger for you...I got a feeling we'll be utilizing it a lot!

Thank you. In that case you should add its companion piece MIHOP (Make It Happen On Purpose).

I had never heard of them until I read some leftist POS pontificating about how GW had LIHOP'd 911 so that he could justify going to Iraq (ostensibly to avenge his old man). The notion was completely insane stupid but I was struck by the concept of passive-aggressively orchestrating something so that you can then watch from the sidelines as the carnage unfolds.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 02, 2014, 08:37:31 PM
Yeah that is pure delusion. If W. wanted a pretext to invade Iraq he could have just used the existing No Fly Zones. Fabricating a breach of the cease fire would have been a lot easier than a terrorist attack in NYC.  Plus W. does not hate America.  He would not have allowed something like that to happen knowingly.  For all his faults, I never had reason to believe he had an axe to grind with this country.  Unlike the current occupier.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2014, 07:17:46 AM
Quote
I added that one to our acronym ledger for you...I got a feeling we'll be utilizing it a lot!

Thank you. In that case you should add its companion piece MIHOP (Make It Happen On Purpose).

I had never heard of them until I read some leftist POS pontificating about how GW had LIHOP'd 911 so that he could justify going to Iraq (ostensibly to avenge his old man). The notion was completely insane stupid but I was struck by the concept of passive-aggressively orchestrating something so that you can then watch from the sidelines as the carnage unfolds.

Sounds Picardian, but works for me.

Done!

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9401.msg127175#msg127175 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9401.msg127175#msg127175)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2014, 07:19:19 AM
Yeah that is pure delusion. If W. wanted a pretext to invade Iraq he could have just used the existing No Fly Zones. Fabricating a breach of the cease fire would have been a lot easier than a terrorist attack in NYC.  Plus W. does not hate America.  He would not have allowed something like that to happen knowingly.  For all his faults, I never had reason to believe he had an axe to grind with this country.  Unlike the current occupier.

The current Occupier is about nothing other than grinding axes and hating America!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2014, 06:58:30 AM
And this would-be occupier of the White House would NOT be much better than the crap sitting there right now!

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=7510.msg127437#msg127437 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=7510.msg127437#msg127437)

Anybody arguing otherwise is a fool!!!





ETA - To assist in proving the latter...

Schumer did say that Bush “would be a lot better” than some of the other Republicans who may run for president in 2016.
 
Schumer, appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” was asked if Jeb Bush’s liberal views on immigration were good for the Republican Party.
 
He’s showing where people are at. Most people are for immigration reform. Most Republicans, you know, they’re in the ‘vote no, pray yes’ caucus.  They’d like it to pass, as long as they don’t have to vote for it.”
 
“So, Chuck Schumer endorsing Jeb Bush — at least for the Republican primary,” host Joe Scarborough joked.
 
“He’d be a lot better than some of them,” Schumer responded, laughing.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231488 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231488)

I rest my case.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2014, 11:34:23 AM
More news for the MFM to sweep under for the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi...

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=232653 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=232653)

...oh and Filthy Harry Reid ensnared too!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 28, 2014, 07:11:40 AM
Totally and completely vomit-inducing drivel, if you can stand it...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/barf-alert-karl-rove-says-jeb-bush-is-the-biggest-thinker-on-our-side-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/barf-alert-karl-rove-says-jeb-bush-is-the-biggest-thinker-on-our-side-video/)

That deserves the   ::doublebird::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on April 28, 2014, 07:44:11 AM
And Rand Paul has gone complete sell out with his full endorsement of Susan Collins (who is running unopposed)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 28, 2014, 07:56:59 AM
Nothing but disappointment on every horizon...   ::facepalm::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on April 28, 2014, 02:28:29 PM
Nothing but disappointment on every horizon...   ::facepalm::

I don't know how they manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory every time,  but they do (ok, I do know how they do it).   

I don't know how we will survive 8 years of President Hillary Clinton..............but as of now,  she is still the front runner by far.   I don't see anyone challenging her at the primary,  Old Joe doesn't count,  his campaign will fall apart in a second if he is stupid enough to try. 

Chicago politics seems to have been transplanted successfully to DC.   The Democrats only club like Chicago city government.  Aldermen that aren't Democrat? zero.    Now Democrat presidents can be as terrible as they want to be,  but they won't have to worry about losing the White House.     Don't believe me?   Obama's second term,  you ask someone thirty years ago if anyone thought Carter had a chance in h@ll at getting a second term.   Even Democrats knew he was going to lose.    In 2012 the best Republicans could do was tie with Barry at the polls,  which means you lose.    There are no major candidates for 2016 that does any better with Hillary,  in fact many do much worse.    Benghazi has not dented her in any meaningful way,  Democrat voters will not care about that, in fact many Democrat voters won't even know ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

It gets worse too.   Supreme court justices will continue to retire or die.   That means more liberals on the high court.   That may be even worse then a Democrat White House.   The heartburn from that goes on decades.  That means even if Republicans had all the statehouses and the House and Senate it won't matter much,  all rule will move to the courts and 1600 Pennsylvania.   Presidents will never leave major cities,  as they won't need any other votes from flyover country. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 28, 2014, 04:21:10 PM
I kept believing that time isn't on their side, that mathematical reality would surely assert itself, but I don't even know anymore. Hell, maybe they can just keep printing fake money. It looks like there's no end to the suck.

It's especially sad for a civilization to willfully kill itself. It would be better to lose on the fields of battle to a worthy enemy.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on April 28, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
It looks like there's no end to the suck.

Basic economics says the suck will end.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 28, 2014, 05:23:47 PM
[Don't believe me?   Obama's second term,  you ask someone thirty years ago if anyone thought Carter had a chance in h@ll at getting a second term.   Even Democrats knew he was going to lose.    In 2012 the best Republicans could do was tie with Barry at the polls,  which means you lose.

The Democrat machine has gotten far more organized about cheating. You know damn well that they have lists of people who they can count on not to vote, that they now vote for. All they have to do is run through the list of registered voters and see who consistently doesn't show up - which is why they work so hard on getting everyone registered.  Then they vote for that person - usually by mail and early voting ( another reason they are such fans of that program-- because otherwise you have to send people through the lines multiple times and/or bus them to multiple places and its far more difficult to pull off)   

Add that to the fact that the GOP is deliberately choosing candidate their base cannot support ( McCain and Romney) and so are suppressing the turn out that way.  It will be even worse this election - because the GOP isn't even pretending to represent us and have pretty much exposed themselves to be lying lefist big-govt statists who are in no way different than the Dems.  A third party is pretty much the only option here, and that isn't going to arrive for at least another two cycles if history is any guide. 

Traditional Americans will not regain the Senate this year and will not win the Presidency in 2016.


I kept believing that time isn't on their side, that mathematical reality would surely assert itself, but I don't even know anymore. Hell, maybe they can just keep printing fake money. It looks like there's no end to the suck.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/weisshaupt/boom.jpg)


It has only lasted this long because the costs of abandoning the Status Quo are perceived to be too high and too disruptive..  but with war looming and the Western Civilization  slide continuing, at some point that will no longer be the case.   We already see the shift to the Yuan and other forms of currency ( gold)  beginning. We already see the Geo-political situation and extension of American power eroding, and Russia and China becoming more influential. ( I don't know if those in the Ukraine really want to be under Russian Hegemony,  but the writing is on the wall that the United States cannot and will not protect them from it)   You see China asserting control over Japanese Islands, the Middle East  turning their eyes to direct trade and protection alliances  with  Russia and others   and a general shift in allegiances and allies  all over the world.

The sheer number of events that could cause a sudden and  final collapse of this house of cards is simply too great to list -- CDS defaults in America, Japan and Europe , War In the Middle East resulting in rapid shifts of allegiances and trade and the end of the Petro-Dollar, War between China and Japan forcing a Japanese currency collapse,  Outright economic retaliation on the part of Russia or China simply selling their US Treasury Holdings, a Civil war and open rebellion within the United States, and so on..

I doubt there is anyone left with a brain  who thinks the Dollar is a solid currency, or even that its a "safe haven"  in comparison with other options.. but so many have so much invested that they will milk it as long as they can, and get as much as they can, before the inevitable occurs.  That means TPTB invested in the dollar are going to use every tool and every trick they can to slow roll the collapse ( which I would argue has ALREADY OCCURRED and has been ongoing since late 2007.)  If they succeed, and somehow mitigate the possibilities that would result in sudden and catastrophic collapse of the dollar   the United States will simply continue to sink into a 3rd World economy.  As we sink, the world will gradually abandon the dollar, and those foreign dollars will be used to loot the United States of natural resources as the Chinese, Russians and other nations buy mines, oil fields, farm land and factories. Along with those dollars coming home to roost the Fed will continue print new money to keep housing and stock markets rising ( as they did in Wiemar Germany) - Stock indexes and housing prices will set new records, as wages lag and the National Debt grows ever bigger.  Food will become 90%  of everyone's budget,  housing and other bills will be paid on a "when possible basis"  -  starvation and crime will be rampant, and corruption and bribery the standard method of "paying taxes" and dealing with govt officials. The government will be forced  into ever more draconian efforts to control prices, wages and consumption and will suspend property rights, seize assets, implement agenda 21  etc, - and will either succeed in killing the dissenting patriots and establishing a Police State, or will fail and the US will balkanize and descend into Civil War. At this point we discover if Alex Jones is right , and some sort illuminati group decides its a lost  cause, been milked for all its worth,m  and implement a full scale extermination of the United States via biological or Chemical WMD, Neutron Bomb or EMP attack, so its resources can be taken and distributed to the interested powers. Or they may simply let it fall apart and let us stew in our own Juices as China and Russia solidify economic and military dominance for the next century.

If a sudden collapse is avoided, this process could well take another 10 years.  Maybe even 20 years  but I doubt it.  I suspect it will be mostly over by the time Hillary leaves office.. which I suspect she will do via a bullet. However, if we aren't forcefully exterminated or successfully imprisoned in a police state,  the Fed will loose effectiveness and power,  and some areas of the country will re-establish freedom and limited govt in the vacuum ( I suspect Utah will become Deseret, and WY, MT, ID, CO, Kansas and portions of surrounding states form another coalition - which may extend as far as TX, but I suspect the East and West and Gulf  Coasts     will respectively  become protectorates of Russia, China, and a BRICS country alliance ( similar to NATO)   Without Seaports the land locked liberty loving nations will not become dominant factors in the world again.

 Thank you Freedom hating, self-righteous Democrats and your pathological need to put narcissistic sociopaths in control  so you can act as if you are in Kindergarten.  But as this happening you can bet these same morons will blame us - claim we made it happen, because we predicted  what would happen based on a basic knowledge of history. May each and every one suffer greatly and find no respite from the chaos they have unleashed upon us.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 29, 2014, 07:28:28 AM
Agreed, the suck will continue until it can go on no longer as a result of a shooting war, economic war or its own critical mass.

Planning for and trying to survive the unimaginable is all we can do, everything else is time-filler, little better than entertainment.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2014, 06:55:04 AM
Is the E-GOP pathetically predictable or what?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us/politics/jeb-bushs-2016-flirtations-test-loyalty-of-christie-backers.html?hp&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us/politics/jeb-bushs-2016-flirtations-test-loyalty-of-christie-backers.html?hp&_r=0)

Well, since they only respond to prodding...all that is needed is to let them waste money on this dead horse and then before any damage can be done leak all sorts of allegations against him that cause the handlers and bag men to cut bait and find a new puppet...

We can at least drain these hacks of resources!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: MacWell™ on May 02, 2014, 09:13:30 AM
I believe there's one thing we can all agree on; America is in trouble. Not trouble like there's too many (no-work) jobs in DC, or the trains can't seem to run on time. America is in for the fight of her life. There's not a whole lot of difference in the way she is today, and the way she was back in the 1700's. The difference is that now, she is in the process of being taken down from the inside rather than from outside invaders. I don't believe I'm naive', or a conspiracy nut, when I see what OUR government has morphed into... and what I see is scary... scary as hell! There's a lot of old guys, like me, who're willing to, once again step up and fight these bastards. I took the oath at 17 and as far as I'm concerned, it still applies. I pray daily that it doesn't come to that, that never again does brother have to fight against brother, or father against son.
Now, to the topic at hand. I do believe Cruz can, should, and will run in 16, regardless of how much mud they sling at him. He has proven himself to be a patriot and a leader. The democrat party is bleeding in their shoes, praying that lightening strikes the man down, because they know no one that they can field, can beat Ted Cruz. It's almost as if he is destined to be the next President. America needs a "George Washington" as a leader. A man who understands what the founders intended her to be and can illustrate that intent in so many ways. Oh, and Ted having a big set of... cowboy boots, doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 12, 2014, 06:48:50 AM
It is too easy to call bullshyt on this pronouncement!

Sen. Marco Rubio: Yes, I’m Ready to be President (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/05/sen-marco-rubio-yes-im-ready-to-be-president/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on May 12, 2014, 08:33:38 AM
Just another RINO neo con.
He's going to have to fight it out with Santorum for the Neocon vote
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 12, 2014, 08:36:30 AM
Just another RINO neo con.
He's going to have to fight it out with Santorum for the Neocon vote

That'll be a like a drag-queen slap-fest...   ::slapfight::

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on May 12, 2014, 09:06:41 AM
Santorum will get the evangelical vote.
Like them, he's big on government enforced morality
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 12, 2014, 11:38:23 AM
I guess this asshat Bloomberg is positioning to be selected as someones Veep in 2016...Hillary or Jeb...what effing difference does it make?

 ::whatgives::

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/bloomberg-attacks-on-clinton-about-benghazi-are-cheap-politics/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/05/12/bloomberg-attacks-on-clinton-about-benghazi-are-cheap-politics/)

Oh, and Mr. Stupid Ex-Mayor?  What people expected her to do is a) answer the f**king phone when it rings at 3am and b) save American lives when they are under attack!...Oh, and c) Stop arming Muzzie terrorists!!!

So stick your "cheap politics" up your statist crack and die already!!!

 ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2014, 06:34:03 AM
Another one for the "it takes one to know one" files...or is it the "pot meets kettle" files?

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/12/karl-rove-hillary-clinton-may-have-brain-damage/ (http://pagesix.com/2014/05/12/karl-rove-hillary-clinton-may-have-brain-damage/)

The Butthead is looking more and more like Jabba every day...while Hitlery is looking more witchy by the second...

Wish they would both just fall off the Earth...   ::praying::



ETA - Oh, and can someone explain this piece to me?  I thought we had both a woman and a homo in place already?   ::whatgives::

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/glenn-greenwald-2016-elections-%E2%80%93-theyll-probably-have-gay-person-after-hillary (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/glenn-greenwald-2016-elections-%E2%80%93-theyll-probably-have-gay-person-after-hillary)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 19, 2014, 11:30:33 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/awgeeznotthiscrapagain_zpsf95497fc.jpg)

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=236051 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=236051)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/NOOOOO.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2014, 07:23:19 AM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi takes a defiant tone on her indefensible role in the fiasco and then pronounces the subject closed as far as she gives a fricken damn!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/hillary-clintons-benghazi-chapter-107240.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/hillary-clintons-benghazi-chapter-107240.html)

This evil whore deserves a fate worse than the one she left Ambassador Stevens and crew to suffer...way, way worse!!!  I pray I get to see it!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
 ::facepalm::

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Speculation-Builds-on-Michelle-Obama-Senate-Run-262032821.html (http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Speculation-Builds-on-Michelle-Obama-Senate-Run-262032821.html)

Whatever...who cares?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on June 06, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
::facepalm::

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Speculation-Builds-on-Michelle-Obama-Senate-Run-262032821.html (http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Speculation-Builds-on-Michelle-Obama-Senate-Run-262032821.html)

Whatever...who cares?

First one comes to mind: FSA/low information voter.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2014, 07:41:54 AM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi is "dead broke", so it says...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/hillary-clinton-we-were-dead-broke-after-leaving-white-house-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/hillary-clinton-we-were-dead-broke-after-leaving-white-house-video/)

...sure do wish is was the one and not the fictional latter!


ETA - this is hilarious!

Hitlery's book -

“In this book, like in ‘The Lego Movie’ theme song, everyone is awesome!” Allen quipped.
 
The New York Times’ book-review section seemed to agree with Allen’s assessment.
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=239048 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=239048)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/LOL/ha-ha.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 11, 2014, 07:42:41 AM
Bwuuuhaahaaaa!!! Not even 24 hours later and the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi is backing off claims of abject poverty!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton-clarifies-poverty-quip-everything/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton-clarifies-poverty-quip-everything/)

 ::laughonfloor::

ETA - And more internets uprising against Ms. Hard Choices!

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=239149 (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=239149)

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 12, 2014, 08:26:57 AM
 Morally bankrupt is not broke.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 12, 2014, 11:06:57 AM
But they are definitely broken... 

Irreparably...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 08, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
Pubbies to annoint the next Ruling Class loser asshat to get their butt thumped by another scumsucking progressive in Cleveland in 2016...if anybody cares...

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/07/cleveland_gop_convention_annou.html (http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/07/cleveland_gop_convention_annou.html)

...I posted this and I sure don't give a damn what they do there...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 08, 2014, 12:48:12 PM
They probably genuinely believe this will help nudge Ohio in their favor. They really are that dumb.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 09, 2014, 06:55:27 AM
Yes, irrevocably brain dead...

Cleveland/Dallas?

Seemed a no-brainer to me, but brain dead is worse than no brain...

And think of the lost opportunity to declare open season on progs and challenge them if they continue to destroy this nation states like Texas are sure to secede!

I think the non-Ruling Class elements should split away from the GOP now and have their own convention in Dallas...there really is no reason for real conservatives and Tea Party people or Libertarians or anybody with principles to stay in that party any longer...I mean how many times does the party have to fail in elections, legislation and leadership before people realize this party is over?!?!?!  Once the country collapses will be too late...and guess what?  If you are in Das Kapital when it goes, you're FUBAR with everyone else!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 14, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
l know Rand Paul isn't perfect and l know he has said some stuff that l don't agree with and l know l am increasing skeptical if not fully convinced our system is too diseased to operate honestly and too far gone to salvage and l know relying on politics and politicians is a fools errand...but the more l read that Ruling Class Pubbies and Neo-Con asshats are digging knives into Rand at every opportunity l cannot help sympathizing with the poor fellow.  l still say splitting away from the GOP and letting it die is the right principled call to make.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2014, 07:17:50 AM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/14/elizabeth-warren-bashes-wall-street-in-west-virginia/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/14/elizabeth-warren-bashes-wall-street-in-west-virginia/)

...but then I think of the stool sitting in the White House now, a piece of fecal matter who people supposedly chose, twice...and I think, yeah, we're that far gone...

PS-There ought to be a law that says you lose one POTUS race, you are banned for life...McCain & Romeny lost to the fecal deposit, I don't want to hear any more talk about Mitt or any past loser running again!!!.

Oh hell, what do I care?  Put the biggest idiot in there, crash this sucker!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on July 15, 2014, 07:52:06 AM
I am no longer surprised at the utter trash it takes to appeal to today's Democrat voter.

Fake resume, check
Failed Marxism, check
Instant 50% appeal in a low information America, a given
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 15, 2014, 08:15:22 AM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

But she is a woman. Are you a sexist against women?
You knew the hype was coming, and getting the libs to vote for the first black President was so easy, they figure it will work just as well with a woman.  Hilary is too old and encumbered with baggage. .  Warren is the originator of the "you didn't build that" shtick and is cut from the same cloth as Obama in a lot of ways.   I fully expect Fauxcahontas will be the one they hype and push, and this is the first article fully reaching hype-mode on it.  If it sticks with the target audience, you can be this bitch is the next President.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2014, 08:21:10 AM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

But she is a woman. Are you a sexist against women?
You knew the hype was coming, and getting the libs to vote for the first black President was so easy, they figure it will work just as well with a woman.  Hilary is too old and encumbered with baggage. .  Warren is the originator of the "you didn't build that" shtick and is cut from the same cloth as Obama in a lot of ways.   I fully expect Fauxcahontas will be the one they hype and push, and this is the first article fully reaching hype-mode on it.  If it sticks with the target audience, you can be this bitch is the next President.

No, I just hate stupid people, regardless of gender, color or creed.

But we'll never hear a Ruling Class Pubbie speak truthfully like that, they'll run urine down their pantleg at the very thought of being honest and take their beating like the freightened little cowards they are, so, yeah, Fauxahontas is probably the best plan the DemonRats have...Hitlery without the baggage, brain-trauma and lecherous spouse...

Well, I don't really know about the latter for Fauxahontas, but we know about Wild Bill...is Fauxahontas married, I mean to a man, nomillay speaking?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 15, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

But she is a woman. Are you a sexist against women?


Rush was talking about this very approach on his show.  The Dems are going to call this play until it doesn't work anymore.  Every candidate they put up is going to be some sort of "historic first", just to shut down criticism.

Really though, it all gets back to the fact that we are a broken country because we are a broken electorate. We're in the full blown "bribe the voters with the public purse" phase. The minute the first cent was allocated for the purpose of giving one individual something taxed from another individual, it became an unstoppable slide. And the slide will continue still further, until reality makes it stop.

They've won. The culture (such as it is) is entirely theirs -- lock, stock, and barrel. There will never be another Republican president in the United States. W. was the last one. What they're going to soon find out, though, is that their "win at all costs" approach does indeed have a cost. It's the destruction of the very society they presume to rule.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 15, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

But she is a woman. Are you a sexist against women?


Rush was talking about this very approach on his show.  The Dems are going to call this play until it doesn't work anymore.  Every candidate they put up is going to be some sort of "historic first", just to shut down criticism.

Really though, it all gets back to the fact that we are a broken country because we are a broken electorate. We're in the full blown "bribe the voters with the public purse" phase. The minute the first cent was allocated for the purpose of giving one individual something taxed from another individual, it became an unstoppable slide. And the slide will continue still further, until reality makes it stop.

They've won. The culture (such as it is) is entirely theirs -- lock, stock, and barrel. There will never be another Republican president in the United States. W. was the last one. What they're going to soon find out, though, is that their "win at all costs" approach does indeed have a cost. It's the destruction of the very society they presume to rule.

W. was a liberal dressed up in Conservative clothing, just like the rest of the GOP.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
I cannot believe people are seriously pushing this fraud, this fake, this utter imbecile and light-weight as possible POTUS material...

But she is a woman. Are you a sexist against women?


Rush was talking about this very approach on his show.  The Dems are going to call this play until it doesn't work anymore.  Every candidate they put up is going to be some sort of "historic first", just to shut down criticism.

Really though, it all gets back to the fact that we are a broken country because we are a broken electorate. We're in the full blown "bribe the voters with the public purse" phase. The minute the first cent was allocated for the purpose of giving one individual something taxed from another individual, it became an unstoppable slide. And the slide will continue still further, until reality makes it stop.

They've won. The culture (such as it is) is entirely theirs -- lock, stock, and barrel. There will never be another Republican president in the United States. W. was the last one. What they're going to soon find out, though, is that their "win at all costs" approach does indeed have a cost. It's the destruction of the very society they presume to rule.

W. was a liberal dressed up in Conservative clothing, just like the rest of the GOP.

He was...is...a mainstream NeoCon, maybe not as dyed-in-the-wool feel-gooder as most, certainly not as corrupted as J-Mac et all...but Glock is right, as far as the label brand "Republican" goes it is highly doubtful there will ever be another one, for whatever that is worth...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 15, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
Exactly. And for whatever that is worth? Probably nothing. When the nominal opposition of the progressives has accepted, either explicitly or tacitly, most of their premises then what difference does it make (to quote one of our favorite people)?

For my entire lifetime, the best you could hope from the Republicans is that they would drag their feet. There has never been any push back in the other direction. Reagan made a good effort at it, but he had a Democratic Congress the whole time, not to mention mandarins from his own party who couldn't end the Reagan Revolution fast enough after 1988. Sadly the Reagan era appears to have merely been a brief plateau in an otherwise consistent trend line.

Plus at this point we could have the absolute perfect candidate, one who possessed the right critical mind, oratory skills, etc, and this candidate would still lose. Anyone who suggests merely slowing the rate of expenditure on entitlement programs (forget actual cuts) is electoral dead meat. Mathematical reality is our only ace in the hole now.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2014, 07:09:42 PM
Yup, our best allies are ourselves and the cold hard inescapable reality that no matter how hard our enemies and enablers wish to deny it and try to postpone it, the status quo cannot and will not continue much longer.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 16, 2014, 10:23:29 AM
Oh please mighty Indian Brave, run for office.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/elizabeth-warren-supporters-launch-ready-for-warren/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/elizabeth-warren-supporters-launch-ready-for-warren/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 16, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
She's got that classic "liberal"/"euphorian"/"prog"/"oblivion" look...

And likes to talk down to people who don't understand the mindless proglodyte NPR-voice drivel oozing out of the central orofice of the frontal area of that malignant lump that passes for a human skull...

And challenging such types on facts or using logic or common sense or principles or morals results in the automatic knee-jerk reaction common to locusts that results in spasmodic hand/arm motions, bulging eyeballs, flickering-forked tongues demonizing their interrogator and that ultimately ends with ad hom personal attacks...

God help me, I love tormenting these types sooooo much!!!!    ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 18, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Another Article about Warren (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/elizabeth-warren-torches-janet-yellen-too-big-fail)

The same idiots who were fooled by Obama are going to be fooled again - because they always look to govt as a savior, they always want God on Earth to appear to lead it.

The comments almost have to be govt shills paid to hype her. I am so looking forward to looking every one of these morons excited  about Warren in the eye and say - you were excited about Obama too.  Guess you are a slow learner.

I am now taking bets against the idea that Warren is the next President.... because she is going to be.
What a farce.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 18, 2014, 04:15:45 PM
And now the Elizabeth Warren 11 commandments of progressivism (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-s-11-commandments-of-progressivism-20140718)

Quote
1) "We believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher enforcement, and we're willing to fight for it."
 
2)  "We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth."
 
3) "We believe that the Internet shouldn't be rigged to benefit big corporations, and that means real net neutrality."
 
4) "We believe that no one should work full-time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage."
 
5)  "We believe that fast-food workers deserve a livable wage, and that means that when they take to the picket line, we are proud to fight alongside them."
 
6)  "We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt."
 
7)  "We believe that after a lifetime of work, people are entitled to retire with dignity, and that means protecting Social Security, Medicare, and pensions."
 
8)  "We believe—I can't believe I have to say this in 2014—we believe in equal pay for equal work."
 
9)  "We believe that equal means equal, and that's true in marriage, it's true in the workplace, it's true in all of America."
 
10)  "We believe that immigration has made this country strong and vibrant, and that means reform."
 
11)  "And we believe that corporations are not people, that women have a right to their bodies. We will overturn Hobby Lobby and we will fight for it. We will fight for it!"
 
And the main tenet of conservatives' philosophy, according to Warren? "I got mine. The rest of you are on your own."

And now here they are translated:

1) We believe a different set of cronies should get paid off with taxpayer money
2) We believe in Science!TM and expect you to go along with our conclusions because the science is settled! - because we don't understand that science- of its nature - is never settled and we eally don't want to argue the evidence because we have none.
3)  We believe The Government should control who gets to use what on the internet- not the people who built it and own it.
4) We believe that the amount you earn should not be proportionate to the value you provide and others should be punished to take up your slack
5) We believe more Fastfood workers should be put out of work and replaced by robots!
6) We believe  that everyone who works at colleges should be forcefully enslaved and made to teach for free.
7) We believe that a massive   PONZI scheme that is implicitly mathematically impossible    can be fixed by saying "we believe"
8) We believe in looking at part time work and work in different professions in an apples and organes comparions proves some sort of pay disparity based on "equal work"
9) We believe  equal means equal - which is why the rules should be different based on what sex you are and what color your skin is.  Did I mention I am a Native American?
10) We believe that accepting millions of criminals into our country will result in more votes for me!
11) We believe that corporations are not people, so we should be free to violate the rights of the people that own and run them   at gun point to give us what we want, rather than pay for it ourselves.

%#&$*@ Bitch.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 18, 2014, 05:11:55 PM
Warren the Music Video
Run Liz Run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqCFxg2ez44#ws)

First lyric - We need a woman for president. It gets worse from there. They didn't even bother to rhyme half of it.





Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 18, 2014, 06:54:43 PM
Have any of you actually encountered a Feauxahontas supporter in the meat world? I have not (yet) but I have been curious at what variety of loon they would look like. Kinda like a kookcinich supporter? LOL
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 18, 2014, 08:32:33 PM
http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/07/on-knowing-your-enemies.html (http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/07/on-knowing-your-enemies.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 18, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/07/on-knowing-your-enemies.html (http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2014/07/on-knowing-your-enemies.html)

Thanks Pan. Francis is always a compelling, if somewhat distressing read. Bit by bit I find myself semi-voluntarily going Galt. I realized that I've been in my "new" house for almost six years and still haven't changed my voter registration. We're all "vote by mail" so it only matters to the extent of local elections, but when contemplating updating it for this next election I found an almost insurmountable indifference.

I don't care and I don't care that I don't care.

A couple of years back my older brother became a PCO in his district's Republican party. He was trying to "effect positive change". He's now vice-chair for the district and so disillusioned that he's talking seriously about walking away. He's found that the pubbies are so hidebound that it is like talking to the wall when talking politics with them. They tsk-tsk about Øbongo but wince and look like they just swallowed a mouse when you actually say "Øbongo". There doesn't seem to be a single one of them that wants to shrink government - they just want GW's "kinder, gentler" madness.

One of his duties is to assist local candidates' races as a liaison to the party. Since he's assisted on many local campaigns and run two he should have street cred (one would think) but the candidates uniformly are giving him the cold shoulder. Now I have to admit that he (like me!) is the embodiment of the old saw about suffering fools gladly and can be intimidating as heck (unlike me who is the "harmless, loveable fuzzball" type ;')

Bottom line is that the local candidates are running ineffective, losing campaigns. In a center-right town! We're going to lose are collective butts here because the pubbies are afraid that they may offend someone by standing up on their hind legs and taking a stand.

In my district we have a warhorse of a state representative. She's tough as nails but she's also very outspoken and un-PC. So this cycle we have a broad who has teamed up with a leftist to unseat her. I met her the other day and gave her an earful. I was pleasantly surprised to see the look of abject horror on her face as I dressed her down. She wasn't expecting that - at all!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: trapeze on July 19, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
That's a heck of a video. I would really like to see Warren run and take the nomination away from HRC. Warren is, unlike BO, a true believer in all things leftist. BO believes the stuff, too, but he's an intellectual zero (hence the teleprompter and the inability to speak unscripted). Warren can do the full-on leftist walk-and-chew-gum-at-the-same-time thing and because of that she will (especially after the last four years) turn off all of the usually brain dead unaffiliated voters.

The so-called independent voters who are supposed to be the "lynchpin" of any election are also the "low information" voters. They don't know what they don't know as Dick Cheney would say. BUT...even though they are uncurious and prone to being swayed by the mass media, they have been subject to the same misery as have we all since BO and his pet wife started stinking up 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and, like us, they are thoroughly fed up with it. The difference is that they don't understand why they are fed up with it. But they are.

I just don't see the electorate going for another four years of this sh*t.

Of course, if I'm wrong, we are thoroughly screwed and none of this kabuki theater will matter anyway.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 19, 2014, 07:51:48 AM

I just don't see the electorate going for another four years of this sh*t.

Of course, if I'm wrong, we are thoroughly screwed and none of this kabuki theater will matter anyway.


WE  are thoroughly screwed and none of this kabuki theater will matter anyway no matter if you are right or wrong.

The "electorate" will be given a choice between Warren and some Romney/McCain clone. The left would probably prefer loosing this go round so that the anger and resentment against them and their crap can die down and all of the problems can again be blamed on the new Pubbie (Even a leftard realizes the "Its Bush's Fault" thing is getting old) but I don't think they can swing it. Between  outright voter fraud and most of the GOP staying home (because their choices are more crap now, or a continued crappy status quo and more crap later)  the Democrats could run a goat named Julius and still win. Too many people are to the "Let it Burn" and "let's get it over with with so maybe I can see something rebuilt in my lifetime" stage.

If you are right or wrong none of it will matter because there is ZERO chance -even with a GOP controlled Congress and a Republican President, that ANYTHING WILL EVER BE REPEALED.  The GOP won't do it, and while that probably means we will have a sea-change shift that results in a 3rd party being formed,  it probably also means that the other side will have its way, unchallenged, for at least another 4 years if not another 8. This will lead to such worsening conditions that when the 3rd party is elected,  a Civil War will then either be in progress or about to commence.  I suspect this  this, because that is how this worked the last time a 3rd party emerged -- before just before the first Civil War.

Either way - the economics simply can't be saved - even if we had a True Tea Party Govt of Patriots in charge. They would, like Reagan, have to raise interest rates -  with all of the economic damage that would entail.  They would have to cut off social security welfare (and given the number of elderly who consider that "their money"  and the Free-shyt armies response, that would probably result in a civil war right there as well) 

No. Its best to just let the Left Damage things so severely and deeply that reality culls them through disease, starvation and death of their own making. If they come at you in your lawn chair with the popcorn, you just have to kick them back into play ( or shoot them)  Let them reap what they have sown. They have held a gun at my head all of my life, and if they try to do it personally after the collapse I will kill them for it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on July 19, 2014, 09:42:49 AM
  I hope to see one hell of a cat fight between the two ladies of the left.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 19, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
I am shrugging, what difference does it make?  There is no difference between Hitlery or Fauxahontas, and no candidate the Ruling Class idiots in the GOP put up would do anything to rollback the damage done to the Constitution & our nation, so why pretend any of it matters?  Enough of the phony war, enough kabuki, enough lies!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 20, 2014, 07:59:34 AM
I am shrugging, what difference does it make?  There is no difference between Hilery or Fauxahontas, and no candidate the Ruling Class idiots in the GOP put up would do anything to rollback the damage done to the Constitution & our nation, so why pretend any of it matters?  Enough of the phony war, enough kabuki, enough lies!

"At this point, what difference does it make"  will be the epitaph written on Western Civilization's tombstone.
The only way out now is through.  Let it burn.  Let the chips fall where they may. Let the left reap what they have sown.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on July 20, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
I am shrugging, what difference does it make?  There is no difference between Hilery or Fauxahontas, and no candidate the Ruling Class idiots in the GOP put up would do anything to rollback the damage done to the Constitution & our nation, so why pretend any of it matters?  Enough of the phony war, enough kabuki, enough lies!

"At this point, what difference does it make"  will be the epitaph written on Western Civilization's tombstone.
The only way out now is through.  Let it burn.  Let the chips fall where they may. Let the left reap what they have sown.

I see I've finally persuaded you two.

Let. It. Burn.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 20, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
In WWII the saying among GIs was "the fastest way home is through Berlin".  That's pretty much where we're at with things now.  We have an incipient civil war that could go hot at any time.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on July 20, 2014, 05:13:12 PM
In WWII the saying among GIs was "the fastest way home is through Berlin".  That's pretty much where we're at with things now.  We have an incipient civil war that could go hot at any time.
Hope so! I see no other logical conclusion at this point as to coming out of this predicament without bloodshed. Besides, it will thin out the herd of leftists and that can only be a good thing. ::machinegun::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 21, 2014, 07:26:19 AM
Our road to victory goes thorugh Das Kapital, but there are all these little Kapitals to deal with too...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 21, 2014, 07:58:02 AM
And back on the phony baloney political front of 2016 wannabe's...it just keep getting more and more hilarious!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-liberals-pining-for-a-clinton-challenger-ambitious-democrats-get-in-position/2014/07/18/b2892f80-0e1b-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-liberals-pining-for-a-clinton-challenger-ambitious-democrats-get-in-position/2014/07/18/b2892f80-0e1b-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html)

First, Hitlery...then Fauxahontas...now get ready for (drumroll)...

Amy Klobuchar!   ::laughonfloor::

Joe "Plugs" Biden!   ::hysterical::

...and are you ready for...Jerry Brown?!   ::laughonfloor::   ::rolllaughing::   ::hysterical::

The DemonRat race could be historic!  Quite possibly for the first time in history the Dem field could have their IQ's combined and still fall below the individual imbecile demarcation!

Indeed, what fricken difference do any of them make?!

And I didn't even get to the punch line yet...but we all know that comes in November 2016 when the next anointed DeceptiCon put up by the Pubbies loses to one of these retards!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
Bullcrap story of the day...

http://weaselzippers.us/196325-report-white-house-pissed-at-hillary-over-unseemly-attack-on-obamas-foreign-policy/ (http://weaselzippers.us/196325-report-white-house-pissed-at-hillary-over-unseemly-attack-on-obamas-foreign-policy/)

...minions always seek to distance themselves from former overlords to some degree, and when they are universally seen by just about everybody outside their common plantation as a complete effing disaster the urge to appear different is irresistable, and nobody throws their own under the bus like progressives...

Talk about a nothing story!  Like Hitlery would be any better than Barry!   ::hysterical::  Yeah, they really think most Amuricuns are that stoopit!  Electorally speaking probably not a bad bet, but the O'Bammy Hangover may be so bad that no associates will be palatable...which opens the door for apparent outsiders like Fauxahontas to have a shot...

 ::)

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 13, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
Yeah Rush was talking about how it's apparent that a decision has been made in the MSM to start protecting Hillary, which means levying criticism against Obama to try and put a gap between them.  The Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) always do this when their current office holders are nearing the end of their term.  They are eager to start emphasizing the personal failures and shortcomings of the current office holder, so that it can all be blamed on them as a person rather than their inherently rotten ideology. They have to protect the cause at all costs.  The ideology must be protected.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on August 13, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
Our road to victory goes thorugh Das Kapital, but there are all these little Kapitals to deal with too...

Once Das Kapital goes, the rest will follow.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 14, 2014, 06:55:30 AM
I have made my decision.  There just is no other way of stopping the CIA Time Traveler cabal.  (http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/11/the-news-live-for-nov-9-2012-obama-the-2012-time-travel-captured-us-presidency.html) (read it - its a hoot -- Maybe that is why Obama talked about 57 States -- he had just arrived from a future in which Northern Colorado and California have succeeded in their attempts to form smaller states...  time travel messes with your head you know.)

I am going to vote for  Andrew D. Basiago.

Because really, the election is rigged without time travel, no politician we put in will do anything to fix anything , and even if he tried there is precious little, at this point, that can be done.

Andrew D. Basiago. 2016. Hes been to Mars (http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2014/03/the-deep-politics-of-mars-a-dialogue-between-mars-experiencer-andrew-d-basiago-exopolitician-alfred-.html)  and knows what is what.

Quote
This poses a dilemma between applying The Prime Directive and not interfering in an ecosystem where reptoids are eating humanoids versus applying established jus cogens norms on Earth protecting “humans” from genocide.

 ::rolllaughing::


 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2014, 07:42:08 AM
This Alfred fellow, he's done a lot of wild drugs I am guessing...   ::hysterical::

But, whatever...MK Ultra aside...even a raving loon finds a grain of truth now and then...

I think things are rigged, I think the cabal is among elitist Ruling Class politicians, crony capitalists, Neo-Keynesian masters of finance and economics, academia, and statist bureaucrats.

You might just as well vote for the Lizard People candidate, wtf difference does it make?  Until the GOP is buried there is no way to pull the DemoProgs out by the roots, and unless the DemoProgs go there is no hope in uprooting the rest of the cabal...

And time is only getting shorter, we're about played out...do whatever you think is right as far as interacting in the puppet show, but look to yourself and your own kin and like-minded friends first.

 ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi and her rapist hubby/former POSOTUS skank up Iowa...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0)

Look at all those stupid people lining up to cheer that shyt!   ::puke::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on September 19, 2014, 01:26:46 AM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi and her rapist hubby/former POSOTUS skank up Iowa...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0)

Look at all those stupid people lining up to cheer that shyt!   ::puke::

The saddest thing,  if she runs,  its STILL likely she will win ::cussing::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on September 19, 2014, 09:09:16 PM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi and her rapist hubby/former POSOTUS skank up Iowa...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0)

Look at all those stupid people lining up to cheer that shyt!   ::puke::

The saddest thing,  if she runs,  its STILL likely she will win ::cussing::


  Always with the negative waves, Moriarty. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyh-JpWdGmQ#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2014, 07:19:29 AM
Those waves might be negative but you certainly cannot say they are unlikely!  I wouldn't bet against Rich FWIW!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2014, 07:18:26 AM
Hilarious!  Webb?   ::hysterical::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jim-webb-former-senator-from-va-takes-on-his-partys-hawks-and-maybe-clinton/2014/09/28/ba12f572-43f1-11e4-9a15-137aa0153527_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jim-webb-former-senator-from-va-takes-on-his-partys-hawks-and-maybe-clinton/2014/09/28/ba12f572-43f1-11e4-9a15-137aa0153527_story.html)

Outsider?  Pah!

But he is not sufficiently Prog-enough to win any DemoCrap nomination, best he can hope for is a Veep selection to lend some illusion to the libiot ticket being balanced...   ::laughonfloor::  Nothing IMO can ever make any libiot ticket look balanced!   ::hysterical::

But he'll be somebody's AlGore...

Like I care...   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
 ::facepalm::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cant-quit-mitt-friends-say-romney-feels-nudge-to-consider-a-2016-presidential-run/2014/10/13/2cb19d12-52ee-11e4-892e-602188e70e9c_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cant-quit-mitt-friends-say-romney-feels-nudge-to-consider-a-2016-presidential-run/2014/10/13/2cb19d12-52ee-11e4-892e-602188e70e9c_story.html)

 ::saywhat::

Umm, no...Hell no! 

You lose to Obama, you go away forever, period!

See, this is what happens when E-GOP spin-doctors spew out their "most people would now favor (insert name of loser) over (insert name of incumbant) if the election were held today/again" BS!  Next thing you know the loser starts thinking he isn't a loser!

Just, go away.  Please!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 14, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
How many times did Adlai Stevenson lose?
Mutt must want to be the perennial loser

At least Jesse Helms ran on some principles
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2014, 07:28:48 AM
Pathetic...

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article3386681.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article3386681.html)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/NOOOOO.gif)

Just go away...

If this crap is on the ticket people might as well just stay home and steel themselves for the next libiot asshat...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 27, 2014, 10:51:20 AM
Another Bush in the White House?  It's never going to happen.  Is it sheer arrogance for him to think he's the best choice?  Or is it part of their parlor agreement with the Dems?  After 8 years of the Obama fustercluck, the one thing that would remind people of the rabid hate for his predecessor would be for the current GOP candidate to be of that same dynasty.

All kidding aside, I will sit out the election if that's the steaming turd the GOP foists on us.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2014, 11:47:42 AM
Illustrative of the GOP...that is just one of the steaming turds they would foist upon us.

Chris Christie?  Steaming turd.

Mike Huckabee?  Please!  He's a turd, loves all the green crap!

Rick Perry?  Aspires to turddom...cannot speak for crap in public and he has many golden opportunities to get in Obama's grill and pushback statist BS in Texas (Immigration, the border, Fedcoat raids on private property...) ... he refuses to fight!

Rubio - Disqualified.

Paul Ryan - In the end just another puppet for the E-GOP, he learned NOTHING after getting thrown under the bus by his own when they savaged his intitial comprehensive budget balancing bill, which was highly hopeful and speculative at best!  Nope, move along!

Rand Paul? - By default the best of a sorry bunch, not sure what guy you get sometimes, but far better than the jackasses above.  And if this list is those who get considered then guess who gets targeted for elimination by the E-GOP first?  Yup, this guy.

Which brings us to Mr Irrelevent, Mitt Romney...who despite losing to the biggest sack of steaming scat in the history of Presidential elections...might win the E-GOP support...

2016 looks like a steaming pile...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 27, 2014, 04:01:46 PM
Excellent recap of the lousy prospects Libertas.

 ::doh::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 27, 2014, 04:29:40 PM
There is some talk about Ted Cruz.
And some question of his eligibility
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 27, 2014, 05:19:20 PM
There is some talk about Ted Cruz.
And some question of his eligibility

If he were to run I would vote for him (and support him in every other way possible) without hesitation or reservation.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 27, 2014, 09:12:42 PM
Maybe.
He sounds good.

But his wife is a muckety muck with Goldman Sachs
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on October 28, 2014, 05:45:12 AM
All kidding aside, I will sit out the election if that's the steaming turd the GOP foists on us.

I refuse to not vote. It's my civic duty. If the GOP refuses to give me a candidate I can vote for, they just won't get my vote.

Expedite the burning process....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 28, 2014, 06:42:02 AM
I always vote, too, Alan.
I may not vote for a lot of the slots but I go.

I tend to vote 3rd party now just to show that I voted but that don't I like their offer.


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2014, 08:02:06 AM
I'll write in "Lizard People" or die over voting for any Prog or E-GOP clown!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on October 28, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
Here in Indiana,  libertarians sometimes do manage to get on the ballot sometimes.    Been voting for them more often lately when the Republican is not acceptable or in some cases nonexistent!  (yup the GOP has written off some races in lake county in)

frankly we get another dud in 16,  the GOP isn't getting my vote.   
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2014, 11:40:11 AM
Nader goes after Hillary...

http://linkis.com/www.teaparty.org/nad/wIhoK (http://linkis.com/www.teaparty.org/nad/wIhoK)

...I don't know about a militarist, a crony corporatist to be sure, and a crazy (may have brain damage) loon on top of it all, but...

..hit her again Ralph, I won't mind.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 10, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
There is an article linked on Drudge, Dubbya talking about he'll support Jeb if he runs and how he'd relish a Bush/Clinton showdown....

 ::speechless::

 ::puke::

No friggin' way!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 10, 2014, 10:39:21 PM
Ai-yi-yi.   ::facepalm::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on November 11, 2014, 05:05:50 PM
There is an article linked on Drudge, Dubbya talking about he'll support Jeb if he runs and how he'd relish a Bush/Clinton showdown....

 ::speechless::

 ::puke::

No friggin' way!!!


Dear God no!    Both Bush and Clinton.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2014, 06:25:39 AM
Sounds like the start of a bad joke...

"Bush and Clinton walk into a bar..."

If the punch line isn't "...and all the patron's shot them" I won't enjoy it...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 12, 2014, 03:10:18 PM
Another punchline possibility:


"Bush and Clinton walk into a bar..."


"Doh!  You'd think after all these years living in this cell we'd know where the bars are!"
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on November 12, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
  BUSH THIS!!   ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2014, 05:09:42 PM
Sicilian brevity, I like.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 24, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
I could live with a Walker Presidency...not sure he could have enough time (even if he had full Congressional support for two terms) to undo all the damage, but I would take it...but I would be shocked if the E-GOP and The Butthead would allow he or a Rand Paul to get anywhere close to the nomination...

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/ (http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/)

I have to say, I like the Coolidge comparison.  IMO Coolidge is a much overlooked entity, he was principled, and he didn't take to being bullied, and he could be sparse with his words but his words were well chosen and their truth would cut to the quick.

We are sorely lacking in all of that right now...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on November 24, 2014, 09:13:45 AM
I don't know enough about Walker but he seems to be a good guy and he certainly stood up to a lot of abuse from the unions.

Maybe, after 2 years of E-GOP ineptness, the people may be ready for someone new
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 24, 2014, 10:39:27 AM
I don't know enough about Walker but he seems to be a good guy and he certainly stood up to a lot of abuse from the unions.

Maybe, after 2 years of E-GOP ineptness, the people may be ready for someone new

Yea! New Person. Same old E-GOP ineptness - which  IS DELIBERATE because they want the Dems to succeed. Big government is good for them too and they are happy only getting to collect their lucre every couple of cycles running as the "ever so slightly better than the completely corrupt and Evil Democrats" alternative
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on November 24, 2014, 11:07:09 AM
I could live with a Walker Presidency...not sure he could have enough time (even if he had full Congressional support for two terms) to undo all the damage, but I would take it...but I would be shocked if the E-GOP and The Butthead would allow he or a Rand Paul to get anywhere close to the nomination...

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/ (http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/)

I have to say, I like the Coolidge comparison.  IMO Coolidge is a much overlooked entity, he was principled, and he didn't take to being bullied, and he could be sparse with his words but his words were well chosen and their truth would cut to the quick.

We are sorely lacking in all of that right now...

I like Coolidge too. Have hope for Walker.  Like Cruz best at the moment.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 24, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
I don't know enough about Walker but he seems to be a good guy and he certainly stood up to a lot of abuse from the unions.

Maybe, after 2 years of E-GOP ineptness, the people may be ready for someone new

Yea! New Person. Same old E-GOP ineptness - which  IS DELIBERATE because they want the Dems to succeed. Big government is good for them too and they are happy only getting to collect their lucre every couple of cycles running as the "ever so slightly better than the completely corrupt and Evil Democrats" alternative

It's why the more sane people (Walker, Paul) should run third party, they are going to be frozen out of the GOP no matter what, so leaving them only makes sense.  And if the Pubbies want to blame them for getting a DemonRat elected....well, who gives a crap what they say?  There is no difference between a E-GOP stooge and a DemonRat stooge other than who fvcks things up faster.  And a thrid party could establish the casus belli on a regular basis right up to the ut bellum!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 24, 2014, 11:21:32 AM
I could live with a Walker Presidency...not sure he could have enough time (even if he had full Congressional support for two terms) to undo all the damage, but I would take it...but I would be shocked if the E-GOP and The Butthead would allow he or a Rand Paul to get anywhere close to the nomination...

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/ (http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/20/scott-walker-may-be-the-21st-century-coolidge-america-needs/)

I have to say, I like the Coolidge comparison.  IMO Coolidge is a much overlooked entity, he was principled, and he didn't take to being bullied, and he could be sparse with his words but his words were well chosen and their truth would cut to the quick.

We are sorely lacking in all of that right now...

I like Coolidge too. Have hope for Walker.  Like Cruz best at the moment.

I like Cruz too, quite a lot actually, he is the only Senator consistenty standing on principle, but he is Constitutionally barred from running...well, used to be until the Faustian Obama-McCain Bargain!  So I guess it comes down to if you respect the Constitution as written or respect the Constitution only insofar as a satisfactory interepretation has been arrived at that comports to your desires.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 24, 2014, 12:24:39 PM

It's why the more sane people (Walker, Paul) should run third party, they are going to be frozen out of the GOP no matter what, so leaving them only makes sense.  And if the Pubbies want to blame them for getting a DemonRat elected....well, who gives a crap what they say?  There is no difference between a E-GOP stooge and a DemonRat stooge other than who fvcks things up faster.  And a thrid party could establish the casus belli on a regular basis right up to the ut bellum!

Yeah, I would vote for them as third party tickets. I won't vote for them if they have an R next to their name on the ballot. Fight the enemy. If they go within the e-GOP they fight their party and then the enemy. Its a complete waste.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2014, 06:27:28 AM
Well, this jackass was one of the deep pockets that helped a complete shythead like Obama get in, so, now it's the hideous wicked witch's turn, eh?

Will the rest of the bundlers follow suit or find others they think they can control?

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-04/warren-buffett-bets-big-on-hillary-clinton (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-04/warren-buffett-bets-big-on-hillary-clinton)

Whatever.  Like it matters...

I look around every day...all I see are dead people...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 08, 2014, 07:39:05 AM
Palin to help set the agenda at the Freedom Summit in Iowa, (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/07/sarah-palin-steve-king-iowa-freedom-summit/20063783/) perhaps we can get some themes lined up to force assholes to pledge for or against, weed out the lesser trash before the 2016 silly season kicks into high gear?

Uhh wait, this is the GOP, and the E-GOP and their Rovian sappers have yet to do their full mischief.

The GOP is so porked!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2014, 07:18:15 AM
Where have we seen this dance before?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HILLARY_CLINTON_STATE_DEPARTMENT_FILES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-12-10-13-45-17 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HILLARY_CLINTON_STATE_DEPARTMENT_FILES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-12-10-13-45-17)

Oh yeah, for Blowjob Barry, and it's been going on for over 8 years and running...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Why do people always blow these fat juicy tosses right down the heart of the plate?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html)

Cue the fricken O'Bongo gag reel? 

What do you mean we don't "have all day"?!

Fine, you know who this is?

(http://iotwreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/racebaiting-300x281.jpg)

(Jurnolista) Cut, we're done here (thinks off mic) we'll just do the 'ol splice and dice...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on December 11, 2014, 04:54:38 PM
Why do people always blow these fat juicy tosses right down the heart of the plate?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html)

Cue the fricken O'Bongo gag reel? 

What do you mean we don't "have all day"?!

Fine, you know who this is?

(http://iotwreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/racebaiting-300x281.jpg)

(Jurnolista) Cut, we're done here (thinks off mic) we'll just do the 'ol splice and dice...


Should have told reporter he believes he can carry a majority of the 57 states.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2014, 06:40:46 AM
 ::laughonfloor::

Yeah, the Press Corpse woudl love that!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on December 12, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Why do people always blow these fat juicy tosses right down the heart of the plate?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/smirking_msnbc_reporter_asks_rick_perry_is_he_is_smart_enough_to_be_president.html)

Cue the fricken O'Bongo gag reel? 

What do you mean we don't "have all day"?!

Fine, you know who this is?

(http://iotwreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/racebaiting-300x281.jpg)

(Jurnolista) Cut, we're done here (thinks off mic) we'll just do the 'ol splice and dice...


Should have told reporter he believes he can carry a majority of the 57 states.

   If Travon had a father he would look like him!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 15, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
Jeb - "(I) would be a good President" (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/12/15/jeb-bush-i-would-be-a-good-president/)

 ::saywhat::

 ::hysterical::

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/stfu.gif)

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on December 15, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
It depends on what the meaning of good is.....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2014, 06:18:25 AM
Good.  As in good enough to screw over any idiot stupid enough to vote for that AINO!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2014, 07:43:38 AM
Cankles getting thrown under the bus by another Kennedy?

 ::hysterical::

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/joe_battenfeld/2014/12/battenfeld_hillary_clintons_kennedy_curse (https://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/joe_battenfeld/2014/12/battenfeld_hillary_clintons_kennedy_curse)

Don't fret toots, maybe you lose out on a nomination...but maybe stiffing you is a curse, didn't end well for Ted!

Hey, that could be a win-win in my book!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 23, 2014, 11:13:35 AM
If Jeb ever had it (doubtful) he certainly just lost it...

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/12/15/thank-god-jeb-bush-campaign-run-by-an-even-worse-gop-strategerist-than-doug-stafford/ (http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/12/15/thank-god-jeb-bush-campaign-run-by-an-even-worse-gop-strategerist-than-doug-stafford/)

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

Good luck with that shat!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 29, 2014, 07:43:00 AM
Communist News Network poll gleefully shows Jeb Bush #1, well ahead of fellow E-GOP asshat Christie (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/28/politics/bush-leads-gop-field-poll/index.html)

(yawn)

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 29, 2014, 10:17:18 AM
Communist News Network poll gleefully shows Jeb Bush #1, well ahead of fellow E-GOP asshat Christie (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/28/politics/bush-leads-gop-field-poll/index.html)

(yawn)

 ::mooning::

I don't care.  Just ....... NO!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 29, 2014, 12:34:56 PM
With the choices the PTBs will allow...given the trend...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/camacho1_zpsab1bf3fe.png)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/comacho2_zps19befb4a.png)

...what fricken difference does it make?!   ::gaah::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
Another has been/never will be what-difference-does-it-make hack mulls a run.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html)

 ::facepalm::

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 04, 2015, 05:42:02 PM
Another has been/never will be what-difference-does-it-make hack mulls a run.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html)

 ::facepalm::

 ::mooning::

 You have to wonder if most of these gents aren't running for a vp slot cause they can deliver a certain vote??
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2015, 06:23:19 AM
Another has been/never will be what-difference-does-it-make hack mulls a run.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/mike-huckabee-ends-talk-show-weighs-presidential-run-113948.html)

 ::facepalm::

 ::mooning::

 You have to wonder if most of these gents aren't running for a vp slot cause they can deliver a certain vote??

Possibly.  Or fishing for one of the plumb cabinet postings.  And it doesn't matter if it is an E-GOP stooge or DemoProg that wins a rigged game, we're still humped and the countdown to implosion keeps ticking down.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on January 05, 2015, 11:21:47 AM
I have never seen a more uninspiring crop of would-be leaders. If they say events make men, then a relative unknown will need to soon rise to the occasion.

This is not just bluster, if Jeb is the nominee there is no way in hell I am going to the poll, not even for the other races on the ballot. Screw that noise.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
I hear ya.  It's almost as if these clowns are daring rational people to sit out this BS!

Jackass Jeb and Jabba the Christie are the worst of the worst, either one will have me flash them the double-bird for good!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 05, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
I don't do Santorum or Huskster either
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on January 06, 2015, 12:48:31 AM
Does anybody see a "third party"  candidate jumping in?   I could see that happening if Democrats think they could lose the White House and sponsor a fake third party runner.    Though I doubt they will lose it,  I am already resigned to the idea of President Hillary Clinton.   She will have a huge axe to grind once she is installed at 1600,  she may even make Barry seem like a schoolboy. 

So far I see no Republican in the position to win the White House,  even against a terrible Democrat candidate. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on January 06, 2015, 01:20:27 AM
Worse is better. Embrace the suck. Time to pull the shades and snuff the life out of the false hope that has plagued conservatives. There's no political solution.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2015, 07:22:57 AM
Somebody principled and not afraid to fight could make a heck of a racket if they ran as in independent...somebody like Scott Walker...the end result may be the same - another Prog fascist in the WH, but I deem the effort a worthy battle to fight, if only to make it clear to both of the Big Govt camps that a big segment of society has drawn a line with their blood that says "No More!!!  We will not submit!!!".

I cannot tell you how badly I want to see that sentiment echoed by millions!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 07, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
  f**kem!!! No more lesser of two evils for me!!  ::vafancoul:: ::vafancoul:: ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 08, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
I think the mass delusion the E-GOP has always enjoyed is reaching Epic Fail proportions, I think they've always thought even after being bent over a raped repeatedly that Conservatives, Libertarians and Tea Party people would swallow their pride and fall in line with them because they have nowhere else to go.  Well, each Presidential election cycle has shown millions more are not defaulting to the E-GOP, it is obvious that given no place to go has resulted in going no place at all, and that simple fact continues to elude the E-GOP conciousness.  With each capitulation, each failure, each lame excuse...millions more are joining the Frak 'Em ranks.

Voluntati tuae, Domine, non est meum
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 08, 2015, 07:06:39 AM
Walker seems to be getting serious.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on January 08, 2015, 04:03:26 PM
Walker seems to be getting serious.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html)

Too little, too late.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2015, 06:34:21 AM
Walker seems to be getting serious.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/politics/walker-builds-2016-team-with-likely-campaign-manager/index.html)

Too little, too late.

Probably, but what the heck, might as well poke a stick in the E-GOP eye just for fun!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/Boo-Hoo-BOEHNER_zps2622eef9.jpg)

 +

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/rinoolympiasnowe.jpg)

=

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/dead-elephant_997500c_zps17ab9d78.jpg)

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 14, 2015, 07:19:08 AM
Early polls...well, most polls, typically not worth a rats ass...but...

http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/iowa-poll-romney-leads-nascent-iowa-field-with-21-bush-at-14-walker-10/ (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/iowa-poll-romney-leads-nascent-iowa-field-with-21-bush-at-14-walker-10/)

 ::puke::

4 deep before you find a non-asshat/non-E-GOP jackwagon.

 ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::

PASS!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 14, 2015, 06:15:05 PM
Early polls...well, most polls, typically not worth a rats ass...but...

http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/iowa-poll-romney-leads-nascent-iowa-field-with-21-bush-at-14-walker-10/ (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/iowa-poll-romney-leads-nascent-iowa-field-with-21-bush-at-14-walker-10/)

 ::puke::

4 deep before you find a non-asshat/non-E-GOP jackwagon.

 ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::

PASS!!!

  Better than Bush by a long shot. That doesn't mean perfect. And better than the loudmouth from Jersey.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 21, 2015, 07:39:17 AM
Mitt is starting to sound a lot like Mike "the huckster" Huckabee when he was running for POTUS and blabbering about climate bullsplatter! (http://weaselzippers.us/211685-mitt-romney-does-the-rare-triple-flip-flop-global-warming-is-real-and-a-major-problem/)

Personally, I think you're basically an OK dude Mitt, but you have got to STFU and go away!  You lost, you lost to the most despicable lying puke-faced loser ever to step foot in the White House...the E-GOP strategy of kissing moderate/independent ass and pissing all over the base failed, you captured the independent vote handily AND LOST!  Agreeing with the Sith is not going to get anybody to like you any better! (http://weaselzippers.us/211684-obama-sotu-no-challenge-poses-a-greater-threat-to-future-generations-than-climate-change/) Your time is done, do the honorable thing, just go the frak away, for God's sake and ours, please, just go away!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on January 21, 2015, 11:35:05 AM
I think Romney is a decent person, which is more than can be said for the latest permutation of the Bush dynasty. But he's not what we need. He couldn't bring out the Republican base in 2012 even when a 2nd term of Obama was the question to be decided. How is he supposed to do better this time around, against a "fresh" Democrat opponent?

Of course that just calls into question who, if not Romney?  I don't think there's an answer.  It's nobody.  And at this point a laboratory-made super hybrid of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison couldn't fix this mess anyway.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 21, 2015, 11:54:14 AM
I think Romney is a decent person, which is more than can be said for the latest permutation of the Bush dynasty. But he's not what we need. He couldn't bring out the Republican base in 2012 even when a 2nd term of Obama was the question to be decided. How is he supposed to do better this time around, against a "fresh" Democrat opponent?

Of course that just calls into question who, if not Romney?  I don't think there's an answer.  It's nobody.  And at this point a laboratory-made super hybrid of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison couldn't fix this mess anyway.

That's really it, right there!  The time for another Reagan was right after Reagan left...but Bush-I quietly began uncoupling from Reaganism...that "Thousand Points of Lights" crapola was the first indication...a nothing SCOTUS choice in Souter (made only better by Thomas a year later) was another, and Thomas would not have been picked had the right not bitched royally about Souter and had not the Left made Thomas a lightening rod that riled them up even more to the point where Bush had to stick with him.  Then capitulating on taxes.  It was down hill after that.  Mr. Newt (in his early, sane version) being the only thing making the Clinton years a center-left push and the Bush years a center-right push...only to accelerate the plunge downward under O'Bongo.  A Reagan right now would be lucky to get us half way back to where we left off in 2008 in two terms...and 2008 wasn't all that rosey a deal either...perhaps with a stronger conservative following Bush-II there would not have been as much TARP or Porkulus going into that election year, I dunno...much of that crap (and the Patriot Act) would still be there.  A Washington/Adams/Jefferson/Madison hybrid in eight years of carte blanche would be fortunate to get back to maybe 2000-2004 levels of government and debt...and then we would be at the crossroads yet again...maintaining the rollback momentum without being a) butthammered by the E-GOP or b) cheated by the Democrat-Media Complex...either one being hard to overcome, both simultaneously being almost impossible.  All the momentum is one direction - down.  I say delay only helps our enemies and hurts us, and I am not alone in that sentiment...but we seem to be a very very small percentage of the population.  Naive types nominally in our camp are easily identified, they ask questions like "Why are you for hurting people and promoting strife?" when the real quesitons should be more like "Why are you feeding this beast that is only going to stomp you harder once its support structure is gone?"...the pain is coming, the only issue left to debate is how much pain you want and do you want to have a chance at influencing any part of the coming conflict?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 21, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
Naive types nominally in our camp are easily identified, they ask questions like "Why are you for hurting people and promoting strife?"

Its the lack of liberty and freedom that is hurting people. That so many are too weak to survive on their own merits because of the current system is no fault of mine. If they get hurt, it is because they  made a choice to leech off of others for their livelihood. And the Strife is a natural consequence of illegitimately using government guns and power  to violate the inalienable rights of others. If you aren't willing to fight for my rights, you can lay no claim to rights of your own.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 21, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
  Look for the one classified as insane or(unsane for some) when you see the one everybody in DC is scared of you found your man. I'm talking about that just as nuts as Obama but a right winger's right winger.

 Somebody that screams that he is going to dismantle not only the apparatus that has been pushed on the country for years but even the memory of it.  The guy that kills liberal teachers by starving the schools that hire them to death!! Takes the books used by them and has a national bonfire with them and replaces them with the truth.

    The guy that screams that if you cross my border I'LL KILL YOU!! and send the carcass back.

  The guy that gets the hell out of the way of the American builders and doers and inventors and crushes anybody that stands in their way..   And call out the idiots that do things like stop the power companies from using coal and claims that he doesn't want to put the coal producers out of business.


      Well you get my drift!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 22, 2015, 07:02:58 AM
I endorse both of the above!   ::thumbsup::

Libertatem aut mori!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 12, 2015, 07:10:57 AM
Sure, the MFM is shocked at this...but anybody remotely above a room tempature IQ knows libiots are now so hard left that the leftmost moonbat is always going to look more attractive to this lemmings...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/shock-poll-warren-leads-clinton-in-iowa-n.h./article/2560098# (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/shock-poll-warren-leads-clinton-in-iowa-n.h./article/2560098#)!

And frankly, if in a general election Walker somehow manages to be there, I can think of few I would like to see trying to go after him than this moron!   ::popcorn::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
It appears the never-ending saga of Zippergate (http://nypost.com/2015/02/14/bill-clintons-libido-threatens-to-derail-hillary-again/) could be doing more to scare of bundlers as anything.  I think a general weariness with the Clintons is a big factor too, too bad for Hildabeast, but that's the way it is.

But, it does open the door for a scary-as-sh*t moonbeam psycho like Fauxahontas Warren to take that Wymynz token and accept the DemonRat coronation.

 ::speechless::

But if Walker is the opponent, I absolutely love that matchup!

Anything else, and I think the E-GOP goes down in flames.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 16, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
Don't underestimate the Pubbies ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 16, 2015, 08:52:37 AM

But if Walker is the opponent, I absolutely love that matchup!

Anything else, and I think the E-GOP goes down in flames.

Don't underestimate the Pubbies ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Can we just call it now? There is a 0% chance Walker will be the eGOP candidate. Between the establishment and the Dems sending plants into the caucuses  you will get another Bushy McRomney RINO.  Who will loose because the GOP thinks it can relay on the "lesser of two evils" to garner their base support.
Didn't happen with Romney. Even less likely with whoever this RINO  will be. You can't be the lesser of two evils once you realize they are all plying for the same team as the opposition.


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2015, 09:24:36 AM

But if Walker is the opponent, I absolutely love that matchup!

Anything else, and I think the E-GOP goes down in flames.

Don't underestimate the Pubbies ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Can we just call it now? There is a 0% chance Walker will be the eGOP candidate. Between the establishment and the Dems sending plants into the caucuses  you will get another Bushy McRomney RINO.  Who will loose because the GOP thinks it can relay on the "lesser of two evils" to garner their base support.
Didn't happen with Romney. Even less likely with whoever this RINO  will be. You can't be the lesser of two evils once you realize they are all plying for the same team as the opposition.

We all calling it now, I would not want to go to 0% chance, if anybody can beat the odds and the E-GOP it will be Walker or it will be nobody, but certainly the odds are very steep.

Let's hold off on the call for now and see where we are this time next year.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 18, 2015, 11:38:37 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/building_a_durable_gop_for_2016_and_beyond.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/building_a_durable_gop_for_2016_and_beyond.html)

 ::)

Yeah, swell plan...if we were going into 1988!

Too late now, so sad too bad...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2015, 12:03:18 PM
Wow.  This is a win?

http://weaselzippers.us/215169-breaking-rnc-successfully-removes-head-from-its-ass-hugh-hewitt-to-moderate-gop-presidential-primary-debate/ (http://weaselzippers.us/215169-breaking-rnc-successfully-removes-head-from-its-ass-hugh-hewitt-to-moderate-gop-presidential-primary-debate/)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Dumbass/091927.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 25, 2015, 11:57:27 AM
Moonbats + social media = stuck on stupid frozen in digital time forever

(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-25-at-9.20.00-AM-550x361.png)
http://weaselzippers.us/215272-cher-wrestles-free-from-her-straightjacket-says-scott-walker-is-a-racist-sexist-liar/ (http://weaselzippers.us/215272-cher-wrestles-free-from-her-straightjacket-says-scott-walker-is-a-racist-sexist-liar/)

Wow, what a enormous intellect!  Well, enormous compared to an old sponge...or a used Q-tip...

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, listen Ms. AdHom Attack Bitch...you hold your breath...permanently.   ::praying::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2015, 06:42:22 AM
 ::facepalm::

Another useless entrant...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-is-serious-about-2016-bid-is-hiring-staff-and-delaying-tv-gig/2015/02/25/4e9d3804-bd07-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-is-serious-about-2016-bid-is-hiring-staff-and-delaying-tv-gig/2015/02/25/4e9d3804-bd07-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html)

Go back to sucking at real estate and tv...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2015, 11:02:36 AM
How should Conservatives respond to Democrat-Media Complex false assumption "gotchya" ambushes?

Bruce Walker at American Thinker is on the right track (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/conservatives_and_gaffes.html)...but his suggested answer is too long.  Most latter day American's (even descent ones) have a short attention span.  You have to hit the highlights bing-bang-boom!  If a venue provides the time to explain in more detail, fine...but you have to be quick on your feet and swift of mind and employ all the wit, humor, scorn and truth you can muster and deliver it in quick rapid-fire action.

Basically...our guys n' gals have to work harder because they are surrounded from within and without by enemies seeking their destruction...we'all have to plan and act accordingly.

Anything less is mailing it in...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2015, 11:47:33 AM
Does anybody...even among DemonRats, care if this clown runs for POTUS?

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/former-maryland-governor-omalley-rules-senate-bid-reports-133010094.html

I never hear anything about him and I can't help think...if he hasn't created a fuss...probably another perfect stealth candidate for DemonRats...

Heck typing this exhausted all the damn I give...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 03, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Does anybody...even among DemonRats, care if this clown runs for POTUS?

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/former-maryland-governor-omalley-rules-senate-bid-reports-133010094.html

I never hear anything about him and I can't help think...if he hasn't created a fuss...probably another perfect stealth candidate for DemonRats...

Heck typing this exhausted all the damn I give...
He's as big a piece of excrement as everyone in MD thinks he is. Left MD as a basket case of typical Liberal/progressive over spending just like every other asshole that has the "D" associated with.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
The psychotic lecherous hump of a climate hoaxer considers a run...

http://weaselzippers.us/216235-al-gore-on-presidential-weather-watch-for-another-potus-run/ (http://weaselzippers.us/216235-al-gore-on-presidential-weather-watch-for-another-potus-run/)

...I cannot believe he even believes he has a shot...I think this is a way to use a campaign to fund coffers that can be parlayed into personal enrichment than anything else...the climate fraud scam has taken on a lot of water and is sinking...and people are onto eco-scams now...

Poor fat fool needs a cash infusion...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2015, 11:49:14 AM
Something stinks like a dead bloated road-killed raccoon tossed into your living room...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-07/rand-paul-s-first-challenge-defeat-ted-cruz (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-07/rand-paul-s-first-challenge-defeat-ted-cruz)

WTF?  Why is Rand's first challenge to wipe out Cruz?  Not siding with one or the other, just asking why the better strategy wouldn't be for Ted and Rand to wipe out the E-GOP stooges?

This makes it sound like Rand is on the E-GOP payroll and doing their dirty work to muck up the GOP field so the usual useless gutter-dwelling E-GOP loser can get the nomination and promptly have their progressive-lite asses routed by the real thing once again!!!

Stupids.  They are just a bunch of stupids!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/NOOOOO.gif)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JOHN_MCCAIN_SEEKING_RE_ELECTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-04-07-03-58-10)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 07, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
   I wish he said one damned thing that could be called new!!All  I want to hear is HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT?? ONE LITTLE BIT OF SPECIFICITY!!   (I hope I spelled it right)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 08, 2015, 10:30:10 AM
Something stinks like a dead bloated road-killed raccoon tossed into your living room...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-07/rand-paul-s-first-challenge-defeat-ted-cruz (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-07/rand-paul-s-first-challenge-defeat-ted-cruz)

WTF?  Why is Rand's first challenge to wipe out Cruz?  Not siding with one or the other, just asking why the better strategy wouldn't be for Ted and Rand to wipe out the E-GOP stooges?

This makes it sound like Rand is on the E-GOP payroll and doing their dirty work to muck up the GOP field so the usual useless gutter-dwelling E-GOP loser can get the nomination and promptly have their progressive-lite asses routed by the real thing once again!!!

Stupids.  They are just a bunch of stupids!


And now Rand Paul has said any law that results in disproportionate conviction rates for non-whites should be repealed.

Quote
I see an America where criminal justice is applied equally and any law that disproportionately incarcerates people of color is repealed.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134 (http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 08, 2015, 11:24:36 AM
He's goin' for the Negro vote. Best of luck, Champ.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 08, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
 ::cussing::  GOP!

Bunch of  ::cussing:: Vichy scum!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: trapeze on April 08, 2015, 10:26:54 PM
He's goin' for the Negro vote. Best of luck, Chump.

Fixed it.

And it sounds like Cruz is getting some serious backing (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/08/mark-halperin-unprecedented-31-million-super-pac-effort-backing-ted-cruz-for-president/) in the form of some kind of an allegedly conservative super pac. So...not just Rand but all of the field will have their hands full.

Ed Morrissey's comments are found here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/08/cruz-super-pacs-make-31-million-haul-in-first-week-of-campaign/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2015, 07:14:42 AM
It's all well and good.

But money is one thing, a good candidate is another...sure that's two down when we've been saddled with no better than one for quite a while (and it wasn't the candidate)...the third element is the clincher - not playing the Democrat-Media Complex game!  Now, Ted shows promise.  If he refuses any D-MC run/hosted/moderated debates in the primaries and general election, if he refuses to be baited by the D-MC and go on a direct-to-the-people campaign, if he basically runs his campaign like a total war contest with the entire D-MC as the enemy not just whatever titular head they regurgitate up...maybe then he'll make it.  And once in we'll see if he can keep his principles and promises.  And we'll see if all that happens if there is any time to fix the plunge into the abyss...

That's a lot of if's and but's...

Same applies to Walker or anybody else.

We shall see.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 09, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
[
And now Rand Paul has said any law that results in disproportionate conviction rates for non-whites should be repealed.

Quote
I see an America where criminal justice is applied equally and any law that disproportionately incarcerates people of color is repealed.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134 (http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134)
[/quote]

Looks like Rand Paul is 100% fought off or blackmailed ( is there a difference?)  Of course I always suspect his father was there to make sure conservatives were never attracted to more libertarian views --  hence the idiotic isolationist stance most big L libertarians take on foreign policy. Of course in the new world where the dollar isn't the reserve and our natural resources are being pilfered, that sort of isolationism becomes far more feasible.

Paul is obviously the eGOP's chosen attack dog to get people like Cruz and (maybe) Walker while leaving the Jeb Bush/Mcain/Romney rino elect "above it all"

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2015, 12:00:04 PM
I have no idea her stance on all the issues...but I have to say I would like to see more people properly attack these proglodytes like this!

Former Hewlett-Packard CEO and potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina is blaming “overzealous liberal environmentalists” for the water shortages caused by California’s ongoing drought. In a radio interview earlier in the week with Glenn Beck, and in a Tuesday an op-ed in Time, Fiorina has made the case that the water rationing instituted by Governor Jerry Brown could have been avoided. The problem, Fiorina says, is that the state has allowed environmental activists to influence policy.

“Specifically, these policies have resulted in the diversion of more than 300 billion gallons of water away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay in order to protect the Delta smelt, an endangered fish that environmentalists have continued to champion at the expense of Californians. This water is simply being washed out to sea, instead of being channeled to the people who desperately need it,” Fiorina wrote in Time. “While they have watched this water wash out to sea, liberals have simultaneously prevented the construction of a single new reservoir or a single new water conveyance system over decades.”
 (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/04/farmers-agree-with-carly-fiorina-environmentalists-created-california-drought/)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 11, 2015, 08:25:29 AM
[
And now Rand Paul has said any law that results in disproportionate conviction rates for non-whites should be repealed.

Quote
I see an America where criminal justice is applied equally and any law that disproportionately incarcerates people of color is repealed.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134 (http://moonbattery.com/?p=57134)

Looks like Rand Paul is 100% fought off or blackmailed ( is there a difference?)  Of course I always suspect his father was there to make sure conservatives were never attracted to more libertarian views --  hence the idiotic isolationist stance most big L libertarians take on foreign policy. Of course in the new world where the dollar isn't the reserve and our natural resources are being pilfered, that sort of isolationism becomes far more feasible.

Paul is obviously the eGOP's chosen attack dog to get people like Cruz and (maybe) Walker while leaving the Jeb Bush/Mcain/Romney rino elect "above it all"
[/quote]
....and what laws might they be. there are absolutely no laws written that except those that favor minorities such as hate crime sentence guidelines. Has anyone here heard of any law of such description? Anyone at all?  Course not! The laws are put into place to make stiffer penalties for certain crimes but it's the people committing those crimes are generally over sampled by certain minorities. '

The statement sounds like he Paul placating to those minorities when in fact it really is a non sequitur from the start. ::rockethrow:: Let's see how many fish he reels in with this bait/lure.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2015, 07:18:23 AM
The Bloody Bitch of Benghazi announces...

'fought children and families all her career'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3035748/Everyday-Americans-need-champion-Wealthy-Hillary-Clinton-enters-race-president.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3035748/Everyday-Americans-need-champion-Wealthy-Hillary-Clinton-enters-race-president.html)

Yeah, we know...

 ::hysterical::

“I’m running for president. Every­day Americans need a champion, and I want to be that champion,”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/she-makes-it-official-clinton-is-ready-for-hillary/2015/04/12/2d4df304-e15c-11e4-905f-cc896d379a32_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/she-makes-it-official-clinton-is-ready-for-hillary/2015/04/12/2d4df304-e15c-11e4-905f-cc896d379a32_story.html)

 ::saywhat::   ::hysterical::

So, everyday American is wealthy, elitist and entitled?  Sounds like a very small voting block...good luck with that!   ::laughonfloor::

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/28575-ready_for_hillary_irony_c_zps1b32k9ke.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/thissaysitall_zpsgm0j0edb.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/Hillaryscrape_zpsb6f7545b.jpg)

Hey, where's Bill?!  (http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/unique-animated-gif-002.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Vegas-488x650.jpg)

http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/)

Heh!

http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/)

Dykes for Cankles...

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbieqYUsAAzSt8.jpg)

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2015/04/bills-wife-19.html (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2015/04/bills-wife-19.html)

 ::)

Figures.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on April 13, 2015, 11:44:31 AM
Remember...

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2015%20Mixes%20and%20Blogs/Dont%20Say%20___zpst9zwxbzq.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on April 13, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Vegas-488x650.jpg)

http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/)

Heh!

http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/)

Dykes for Cankles...

 ::laughonfloor::


The "Bruce Jenner" unavailable for comment made me laugh out loud....LOLOL
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on April 13, 2015, 12:21:14 PM
@ 2:24 - Liquor License (did she have a lick-her license?)

Training Day- Diner Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3myRRZkErs#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Vegas-488x650.jpg)

http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220564-anti-hillary-posters-seen-across-nyc-and-las-vegas/)

Heh!

http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220502-lesbian-pac-endorses-hillary-she-will-lick-the-competition/)

Dykes for Cankles...

 ::laughonfloor::


The "Bruce Jenner" unavailable for comment made me laugh out loud....LOLOL

Yeah, that was good.  It's funny both the way it was intended...as well as not being actually cursed with any kind of response!   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 13, 2015, 07:45:40 PM
Remember...

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2015%20Mixes%20and%20Blogs/Dont%20Say%20___zpst9zwxbzq.jpg)

I would change the middle one from "ambitious" to ruthless - but that's just me.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on April 13, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
I'll say them if I damn well want to.  And when I want to, I will.

WTF do these people think they are.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on April 13, 2015, 09:15:55 PM
New version, which I pasted several times onto her FB page.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2015%20Mixes%20and%20Blogs/Hillary%20__C%20word_zpsepcetla2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 14, 2015, 06:46:43 AM
Remember...

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2015%20Mixes%20and%20Blogs/Dont%20Say%20___zpst9zwxbzq.jpg)

I would change the middle one from "ambitious" to ruthless - but that's just me.

I think Chris Stevens would agree...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/28575-ready_for_hillary_irony_c_zps1b32k9ke.jpg)

As would every woman Bill fooled around with or tried to, people at the Rose law firm, the Secret Service, all the White House staff, Vince Foster...people on the Watergate investigation team who canned her...just about everyone that isn't insane...


ETA - Check out this hilarious stuff from students in Iowa!

'She's going to be, like, talking s**t.'

'seems like, kinda like a control freak.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037460/Iowa-students-preparing-Hillary-s-listening-session-think-s-control-freak-talking-s-t-wants-immigration-reform-Democratic-party-needs-voters.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037460/Iowa-students-preparing-Hillary-s-listening-session-think-s-control-freak-talking-s-t-wants-immigration-reform-Democratic-party-needs-voters.html)

Nice to see a few are capable of seeing through the BS...

ETA - More humor!

http://weaselzippers.us/220697-top-twitter-hashtag-whyimnotvotingforhillary-started-by-19-year-old-conservative/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220697-top-twitter-hashtag-whyimnotvotingforhillary-started-by-19-year-old-conservative/)

This thing could have really long legs!   ::hysterical::

Chelsea Clinton: Mother’s Election Is Important For “Symbolic Reasons” (http://weaselzippers.us/220668-chelsea-clinton-mothers-election-is-important-for-symbolic-reasons/)

Flushing pills down the toilet is symbolic too, so whoopty doo!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 14, 2015, 06:54:00 AM
Rubio - http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150413/us--gop_2016-rubio-3471817028.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150413/us--gop_2016-rubio-3471817028.html)

At least he didn't come out and say job #1 is to knock off Ted Cruz and insists we've had enough Bush...

OK, that last part sounded...  ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on April 15, 2015, 09:11:41 AM
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/296973-everyday-iowan-close-got-hillary-clinton-today/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics (http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/296973-everyday-iowan-close-got-hillary-clinton-today/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics)

Like Zombietime only not X rated.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2015, 11:17:13 AM
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/296973-everyday-iowan-close-got-hillary-clinton-today/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics (http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/296973-everyday-iowan-close-got-hillary-clinton-today/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics)

Like Zombietime only not X rated.   ::thumbsup::

This is absolutely fabulous MNHawk!  Excellent find!

Not only does this expose the absolute fraud that is Hillary Clinton, it exposes the complete fraud that is the entire Democrat-Media Complex!!!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2015, 11:35:23 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/)

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, I put the same odds on that as I do on the MFM stop being Proglodyte cheerwhores! - Zero!



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 15, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/)

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, I put the same odds on that as I do on the MFM stop being Proglodyte cheerwhores! - Zero!

     I wish she would.    ::pimp::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2015, 06:35:28 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/ (http://weaselzippers.us/220815-lib-rag-new-republic-wants-hillary-clinton-to-name-barack-obama-her-vp/)

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, I put the same odds on that as I do on the MFM stop being Proglodyte cheerwhores! - Zero!

     I wish she would.    ::pimp::

Not a very wise insurance policy...more of an incentive...IYKWIMAIKTYD!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2015, 11:49:37 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-23/clinton-cash-author-is-targeting-jeb-bush-next (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-23/clinton-cash-author-is-targeting-jeb-bush-next)

About time!

 ::thumbsup::

And this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/23/gary-hart-says-he-would-support-a-martin-omalley-presidential-bid/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/23/gary-hart-says-he-would-support-a-martin-omalley-presidential-bid/)

So...Monkey Business II?

 ::hysterical::

Birds of a feather...should expire together!   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 29, 2015, 11:31:02 AM
H/T - IOTW

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/DemJeb_zpsggzbepoc.png)

Heh! 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats)

NH is gay!

No way should anybody be putting Bush, trump or Christie that high and Paul now that he has revealed himself as a closet Ruling Class stooge should be no better than Rubio!

 ::mooning::  NH!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2015, 06:43:00 AM
De Blasio's Progressive Manifesto hailed as the blueprint for the 2016 standard bearer...

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/dems-new-agenda-hauntingly-similar-to-communism/# (http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/dems-new-agenda-hauntingly-similar-to-communism/#)!

...WND acts as if the genesis of this demon being the spawn of communism/socialism is a new revelation...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2015, 07:51:34 AM
Walker seems to be impressing (mostly good) folks on The Hill (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/19/republican-lawmakers-scott-walker-dazzles-on-capitol-hill/).
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 01, 2015, 07:53:45 AM
Oh lovely...I was wondering if another worthless snivelling girlie-man E-GOP asshat (http://www.weaselzippers.us/225173-mark-your-calendars-lindsey-graham-to-enter-the-gop-race-for-potus-on-1-june/) was going to enter the fray...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2015, 11:17:07 AM
In the continuing Red/Blue Tag Team Tango...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/225900-wisconsin-democratic-party-convention-straw-poll-shocker-bernie-sanders-surges-to-41-narrowly-losing-to-hillary-clinton/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/225900-wisconsin-democratic-party-convention-straw-poll-shocker-bernie-sanders-surges-to-41-narrowly-losing-to-hillary-clinton/)

 ::hysterical::

Go Bernie, Go!

 ::evil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 16, 2015, 07:51:03 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/)

Well, yeah...releasing accurate records would reveal all sorts of unpleasant things...her weight, sundry venerial diseases passed along by Bill...brain damage...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on June 17, 2015, 12:49:37 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/)

Well, yeah...releasing accurate records would reveal all sorts of unpleasant things...her weight, sundry venerial diseases passed along by Bill...brain damage...

And since the so called "press" will let her get away with it,  just like Barry.   But now if a Republican doesn't want to as well,  nope that will be a scandal.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2015, 06:57:38 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/226578-hillary-will-not-commit-to-releasing-her-health-records/)

Well, yeah...releasing accurate records would reveal all sorts of unpleasant things...her weight, sundry venerial diseases passed along by Bill...brain damage...

And since the so called "press" will let her get away with it,  just like Barry.   But now if a Republican doesn't want to as well,  nope that will be a scandal.

The proper response would be "Since the Clinton's and Obama's told you to eff off, I am telling you to eff off!" but the pansies never have that much courage, and if they cannot deal with a hostile biased press corpse, how the hell can they be expected to deal with the DemonRat opponent?

Hope of a peaceful restoration are dreams and fantasies that will not ever come true, as always nothing will be won without blood and sacrifice.  Putting it off is going to make it worse.  But putting it off seems to be the prevailing attitude so worse it shall be.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2015, 07:10:23 AM
Speaking of worse...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/226675-donald-trump-says-he-wants-oprah-as-his-running-mate-yes-oprah/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/226675-donald-trump-says-he-wants-oprah-as-his-running-mate-yes-oprah/)

I have two letters - F U !

Too chickensh*t to play in the DemonRat playground and the GOP is too chickensh*t to not let him play in theirs...

Both chickensh*t party's need to wither and die...

No doubt they'll need some help along the way...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Magnum on June 17, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
I know I may get skewed but I am to the point where I so detest, despise,dislike.......... leftism that I will vote for almost anyone the republicant's put up to run against Shrillery. But this is one ticket I could not bring myself to vote for.   Seriously, Oprah?  ::cussing:: ::angry:: ::outrage:: ::gaah:: ::speechless:: ::confused:: ::rockethrow:: ::bigpuke::

To parapharse Dennis Prager; the democraps are the dangerous party and the party I most associate with the republicant's are the party of stupid.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on June 17, 2015, 03:40:07 PM
Worse is better.  The sh*tty situation we find ourselves in today is the fruit of our predecessors' half-measures.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 17, 2015, 06:29:27 PM
I know I may get skewed but I am to the point where I so detest, despise,dislike.......... leftism that I will vote for almost anyone the republicant's put up to run against Shrillery. But this is one ticket I could not bring myself to vote for.   Seriously, Oprah?  ::cussing:: ::angry:: ::outrage:: ::gaah:: ::speechless:: ::confused:: ::rockethrow:: ::bigpuke::

To parapharse Dennis Prager; the democraps are the dangerous party and the party I most associate with the republicant's are the party of stupid.

I was listening to Ben Shapiro on the drive home. He was opining that this may (at last) be a watershed moment for the pubbie party.

With 12 declared pubbie candidates and more guaranteed to come, we are awash with choices for POTUS. However, the only one that the press wants to give a serious nod to is Jeb - who is thinking of changing his name to simply Jeb (he sure is minimizing any reference to his last name).

As a result there may be a record few who "hold their nose" and a record number of RWingers who either vote 3rd party or don't vote at all.

I'm done with make-do, half-azzed, and "reach across the aisle" losers. If I don't get Walker or Cruz I won't be voting for prezzy for the first time since I was legal to vote. I'm saying it early, and I'm  saying it often. Give me someone that I can vote for!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on June 17, 2015, 06:39:22 PM

As a result there may be a record few who "hold their nose" and a record number of RWingers who either vote 3rd party or don't vote at all.


Let. It. Burn.
What the (traitorous)GOP hopeful don't realize is that a fair number of their (so-called) base are of the opinion that we need a period of death and destruction to clear out the vermin. The GOP hopeful  won't do it. Its been proven again and again. They won't fix a damn thing. They won't push back one stupid law. Hell they are trying to pass obamatrade. Let the democraps win.

  I can't vote for a democrap. But I can not vote.. Let reality do the rest - and let them reap what they have sown. I will tend (and defend) my own garden. May God have mercy on their souls, because I won't.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 17, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
  I like Trump for as long as he lasts he should be a lot of fun to watch. Not to mention that he might kill off the weaklings before he dies off.  Not to mention that those running might have to make statement  that are a little more clear as to where they stand on any given subject.

    Maybe he can bring clarity to the field, Would I vote for him??   Never
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on June 17, 2015, 09:06:57 PM
I would like to go on record as stating unequivocally that there is no way in Hell I will vote for Jeb Bush.  I absolutely do not care if it hands victory to the Democrats either.  I simply refuse to contribute to the illusion of consent in this rigged-ass game.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 18, 2015, 07:10:33 AM
No surprise, in principle I am with Weisshaupt and Glock...I have seen too many watershed moments get bungled or ignored to think one is possible at this time.  And while I would agree with 'Soup that if not somebody like Walker I too will not be voting for POTUS for the first time ever...I just don't think I have to worry about making the choice, the EstablishmentTM will simply not allow someone they cannot control to be the nominee, period.  And I don't think it matters to them how that is done or how dirty it gets.  And there are EstablishmentTM members in the Democrat-Media Complex that will help them.

We are at the last gasps of this Republic in name only.  The only watershed moment that matters occurs at the time this charade finally ends and people who truly know what liberty and freedom is and those who yearn for it with a genuine heart rise up and take it and refuse all attempts to be yoked by any corrupt system that limits what God gave us and our First Founders fought, bled and died for.

Soon, like our First Founders before us, the time will come when we will be asked to "mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor." or accept the chains of tyranny and the yoke of oppression.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on June 18, 2015, 12:36:33 PM
Not holding my nose. Nope.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 18, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
Not holding my nose. Nope.

    ::clapping::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on June 19, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
Held my nose for McCain and Romney.   No more.

If its not a conservative,  let Hillary have it. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Magnum on June 19, 2015, 03:42:35 PM
I respect and understand all that has been said. I freely admit I suffer from lefty derangement syndrome and live surrounded by lefties, maybe it has blinded me. However, I pray and I mean I earnestly pray that God will have mercy on us and give us Walker or Cruise. I just cannot imagine having to hear this for 4-8 years.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on June 19, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
Well,  I hope for one of the better Republicans too,  but how likely is it?   

Not very good.   The elites just won't allow someone good,  the Republican party has been overtaken just like the Democrats.   And even if one of the better ones gets in,  he will still get undermined by far too many Republicans in addition to all Democrats.   

We just don't have the time to develop a permanent new conservative political party (not a third party,  there will never be a third party).  It would have to be built from the ground up (starting with local candidates),  and that takes time.   At least thirty years,  and frankly,  we don't have that much time left.   Plus there is no political will to even build that party (or movement).    Many thought the tea party was that force,  but most of those people don't have the stones (or time or money) for politics.

That's why liberal elites win,  even in a country where they are a very small group.   Because they know you have to play politics and play it 24/7 and never stop.   Conservatives just want to fix a problem and go home.  And that just doesn't work anymore.   

Just look at the Obama regime,  they undid twenty years of reforms in various subjects in a matter of months of coming into office.  Just like that.   
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on June 19, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
Cruz is all hat and no cattle.

He voted for fast track authority for TPP
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on June 20, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Should we be so fortunate as to get a Conservative in the WH, what we'll see is the eGOP aligned against him, as well as the Dems, and the entrenched bureaucracy.  Nothing will get better.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on June 20, 2015, 08:37:54 AM
Reagan got a lot of his agenda with a Dem controlled Congress.
His Pubbie brethren weren't quite as antagonistic as they are today.

I suppose it's possible.
But, not sure if any of the field has Reagan's leadership qualities
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on June 20, 2015, 08:53:48 AM
Neither were the Dems as antagonistic Leftist then, and the population has changed for the worse, too.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on June 20, 2015, 12:42:52 PM
Neither were the Dems as antagonistic Leftist then, and the population has changed for the worse, too.


There used to be such a thing as conservative Democrats.  My grandparents and their generation could be described that way.  My parents were the first Republicans in either side of the family.  The Democrats have steadily isolated and cast off their original core support, the working class white voter.  The working class white voter might have been a booster of union labor and other economic positions I disagree with, but he was also likely to be pro-gun, pro national defense, and pro border security.

The Republicans have predictably squandered pretty much every opportunity to poach this demographic from the Democrats.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 20, 2015, 10:50:26 PM
There are no Blue Dogs anymore, nothing to poach...we have hard Progs (Dems) and lite Progs (Pubbies), that's it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 22, 2015, 07:20:17 AM
More Prog bias?  Sure.  Like that is news.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/06/21/guess-the-political-party-ap-photo-lines-pistol-up-with-senator-2016-candidate-ted-cruzs-brain/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/06/21/guess-the-political-party-ap-photo-lines-pistol-up-with-senator-2016-candidate-ted-cruzs-brain/)

But in a turnabout is fair play scenario...a Prog should have the barrel going in the mouth or the ass...doesn't matter which one...at least in the case of Cruz they are taking aim at his most feared asset...a brain.

On this theme...IOTW comes through!

http://iotwreport.com/?p=290205 (http://iotwreport.com/?p=290205)

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 01, 2015, 07:15:56 AM
Left-lurching whale sighting!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/30/chris-christie-announces-2016-presidential-run-vow/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/30/chris-christie-announces-2016-presidential-run-vow/)


Arrrgggh!  Man the harpoon!  Make ready to fire!


Seriously, this bloated Obama-ass-kissing Jeb-from-Jersey thinks he could beat Hildabeast or whoever?


 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Magnum on July 01, 2015, 06:04:16 PM
I was wrong and I apologize. After these last couple disastrous supreme court rulings I know we must elect and run a true conservative if there is any such creature any more.

I feel Christie helped this president win the last election. His man love drooling after the hurricane he showered over the president was sickening .

(http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/obama-hugs-christie-2.png)

I certainly cannot trust him with respect to guns.

(http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Images/items/chrischristie_1995gun2.jpg)

Nope I cannot vote for him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on July 01, 2015, 06:16:37 PM
  Don't feel alone in that he won't even be able to save himself in Jersey. I don't think that we'll even have to think about voting for him. Can you say goodbye.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 10, 2015, 11:34:54 PM
f**k. No. sh*t. Really?  (http://hotair.com/)
the
URL won't last but Tepid air is pushing Trump? Really?
Yeah. the new Ross Perot.
Hooray.
Where are my yaks, and why do they like standing in puddles?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 12, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
There is an auto-response for anybody who doesn't take crap laying down that resonates no matter the person delivering it.

His prospects of securing a nomination or winning a general election in this twisted gamed environment are far from positive.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 14, 2015, 11:37:58 AM
Heh.  I am taking perverse pleasure in this!

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/13/teachers-say-no-freaking-way-aft-endorsement-hillary-clinton (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/13/teachers-say-no-freaking-way-aft-endorsement-hillary-clinton)

Not only is the heavily Proglodyte AFT pissed that their leadership endorsed Hillary Clinton without their consent (using such awesome terms like "BS", "inept", "joke" and "no freaking way") but they are saying this is boomeranging and sending them in droves to support Bernie Sanders!!!

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

Activate Operation Chaos 2.0!  But this time...support Bernie!!!

 ::evil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 14, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
Trump has traction because he is saying what we all want to hear. What is infuriating is the idiot conservatives in the field can't figure out why Trump has support. Newsflash: Conservatives....understand what type of leader we crave. Quit being pussies. Take on the Libs before Jeb Bush gets the nomination.

Call me stupid but I'll back Trump right now for no other reason than he makes life hard on liberals.....and hopefully one of the very few I would even consider casting a vote will take on the libs.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
That's what happens when you've been battered for decades...even when you get overwhelming support and win majorities...most of these idiots act like they are still a bunch of losers...which in the case of the RINO/AINO/Ruling Class/E-GOP majority they are losers, but not for the reasons they think...

Trump is getting attention right now, and while he may be correct on the illegal thing he is not a broad-based conservative...but the fact that he doesn't let the prog-media bully him around is earning him bonus points right now...I think Scott Walker (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/07/14/scott-walker-unbending-and-unexcitable/) has this same ability to ignore the prog-media and go on offense direct to the people and is a much more rounded conservative...and we are months away from primaries so this thing is far from started.

And you can bet your bottom dollar the prog-media is going to use Trump as a club on the others in the field when the campaigning kicks into high gear...they'll be all "So, are you as xenophobic and racist as Donald Trump is on immigration?" and the typical E-GOP Pubbie is going to capitulate to the progs and some may try to dance around it and only get tire tracks up and down their ass from both ends and the real leaders will be throwing the prog false meme back into their faces and put the pedal to the floor.

So, we'll see what we'll see...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 15, 2015, 01:47:10 PM
That's what happens when you've been battered for decades...even when you get overwhelming support and win majorities...most of these idiots act like they are still a bunch of losers...which in the case of the RINO/AINO/Ruling Class/E-GOP majority they are losers, but not for the reasons they think...

Trump is getting attention right now, and while he may be correct on the illegal thing he is not a broad-based conservative...but the fact that he doesn't let the prog-media bully him around is earning him bonus points right now...I think Scott Walker (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/07/14/scott-walker-unbending-and-unexcitable/) has this same ability to ignore the prog-media and go on offense direct to the people and is a much more rounded conservative...and we are months away from primaries so this thing is far from started.

And you can bet your bottom dollar the prog-media is going to use Trump as a club on the others in the field when the campaigning kicks into high gear...they'll be all "So, are you as xenophobic and racist as Donald Trump is on immigration?" and the typical E-GOP Pubbie is going to capitulate to the progs and some may try to dance around it and only get tire tracks up and down their ass from both ends and the real leaders will be throwing the prog false meme back into their faces and put the pedal to the floor.

So, we'll see what we'll see...


Yep.....The cowardly pubbies would rather capitulate and also jump on Trump than actually formulate a good response. They complain Trump sucks the oxygen from the room but if they would go on the offensive WITH Trump, the outpouring of support would be massive. I like Walker.....he has a track record. I hope his response to the Trump ordeal is not to attack him personally, but verify the issues with illegals. That is who will get my vote....not the conservative who does not have enough backbone to face the illegal issue.

Also don't think Trump wants to be President but I wouldn't be surprised, if a conservative will show a backbone, he would suspend his campaign and throw support to that candidate. Trump has a following and his support in the end will be huge.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 15, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Quote
When asked about presidential candidate Donald Trump's remarks on illegal immigrants from Mexico, South Carolina governor Nikki Haley told Meet the Press's Chuck Todd she understands Trump's "frustration" but that he needs to watch his "tone."

Haley went on to say "we" all need to be respectful of each other and nix the "harsh" language.  Offensive talk "hurts people," and it's "just not necessary."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/07/governor_nikki_haley_lectures_trump_and_americans_to_watch_their_tone.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/07/governor_nikki_haley_lectures_trump_and_americans_to_watch_their_tone.html)

I now see our (those of us who were at, or know the story of, the previous place) early exposure to the "TONE" crap -- coming from those whom we thought were of us -- was actually a blessing in disguise.

Now I just ::snort:: because it's an old tactic designed to deflect and silence.  So, HELL NO, "it's my tone and I'll use it if I want to" -- paraphrasing JF.

Quote
... she sounds like Obama with his numerous calls for inclusiveness and civility (while he mocks and ridicules the opposition – at one point calling Tea Party folks "teabaggers").  Obama, like Haley, has also advised us not to be hurtful to those who do not agree with us:

From Whitehouse.gov 2011:

    It's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds...and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.

So the reality is obvious.  Trump's straight talk has Governor Haley channeling Obama.  After capitulating to left-wing, media-backed activists, opting to remove an "offensive" flag under the guise of racism, she’s kowtowing to the MSM and political elites.

Haley has learned nothing from the last seven years.  We all know which side needs to tone down its “if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” rhetoric.

Stick a fork in Haley; she's done.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 15, 2015, 10:45:29 PM
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Stick a fork in Haley; she's done.

I may move to SC just so that I can vote against her.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 21, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
Yup, Nikki is toast.

And speaking of simpleminded fools...

DemonRat POTUS hopeful O'Malley says climate change created ISIS... (http://www.weaselzippers.us/229659-martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis/)

Yes boys and girls...join the hive and spout jibberish and have Big Hollywood and Big Media kiss your ass no matter how effing stupid, incompetent, unqualified or psychotic who may be...and you too could one day help lead this nation into Hell.

Only in latter day America...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 21, 2015, 07:02:51 PM
Yup, Nikki is toast.

And speaking of simpleminded fools...

DemonRat POTUS hopeful O'Malley says climate change created ISIS... (http://www.weaselzippers.us/229659-martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis/)

Yes boys and girls...join the hive and spout jibberish and have Big Hollywood and Big Media kiss your ass no matter how effing stupid, incompetent, unqualified or psychotic who may be...and you too could one day help lead this nation into Hell.

Only in latter day America...

 ::unknowncomic::


Dang....Thought isis came from primal ooze.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 22, 2015, 06:39:38 AM
Yup, Nikki is toast.

And speaking of simpleminded fools...

DemonRat POTUS hopeful O'Malley says climate change created ISIS... (http://www.weaselzippers.us/229659-martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis/)

Yes boys and girls...join the hive and spout jibberish and have Big Hollywood and Big Media kiss your ass no matter how effing stupid, incompetent, unqualified or psychotic who may be...and you too could one day help lead this nation into Hell.

Only in latter day America...

 ::unknowncomic::


Dang....Thought isis came from primal ooze.

Mohammad/ooze/Obama...same difference...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on July 22, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
Yup, Nikki is toast.

And speaking of simpleminded fools...

DemonRat POTUS hopeful O'Malley says climate change created ISIS... (http://www.weaselzippers.us/229659-martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis/)

Yes boys and girls...join the hive and spout jibberish and have Big Hollywood and Big Media kiss your ass no matter how effing stupid, incompetent, unqualified or psychotic who may be...and you too could one day help lead this nation into Hell.

Only in latter day America...

 ::unknowncomic::

  Not that there's any danger of anybody here voting for this turd. He also said he was sorry that white lives matter.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 23, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
This is hilarious!

"Many national Republican officials are increasingly resigned to Mr. Trump’s looming presence. At a meeting of the Republican Governors Association this week in Aspen, Colo., donors and operatives mused about how to prevent him from hijacking the debate.  One idea that came up was to urge three leading candidates — Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor; Mr. Walker; and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — to band together and state that they would not participate in any debate in which Mr. Trump was present,"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/breaking-gop-strategists-plot-to-ban-donald-trump-from-debates/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/breaking-gop-strategists-plot-to-ban-donald-trump-from-debates/)

True, this is probably the usual NY Slimes auto-response of kicking the lead dog...and I have no doubt the E-GOP will prevent any non-sanctioned candidate to get their nomination...but the idea that Walker would go along with this when these same assholes (the E-GOP and the MFM) would target him next is a joke!

Well, I thought it hilarious anyway...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 24, 2015, 12:34:49 PM
Ted Cruz called Mitch McConnell a liar today on the Senate floor.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ted-cruz-says-mitch-mcconnell-lies-export-import-bank-120583.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ted-cruz-says-mitch-mcconnell-lies-export-import-bank-120583.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on July 24, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
The nerve of Cruz violating the Senate traditions of decorum by calling a fellow Senator a liar

Ted must be pretty naïve to have just figured out Mitch is a liar
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 24, 2015, 05:31:49 PM
The nerve of Cruz violating the Senate traditions of decorum by calling a fellow Senator a liar

Ted must be pretty naïve to have just figured out Mitch is a liar

Trump is wearing off on him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 24, 2015, 05:43:38 PM
The nerve of Cruz violating the Senate traditions of decorum by calling a fellow Senator a liar

Ted must be pretty naïve to have just figured out Mitch is a liar

Trump is wearing off on him.

I believe Trump's example is emboldening, for sure.  It's been noted that of all the trashing Trump has taken from Republicans, Cruz refrained.

I don't believe Cruz is naive, but I suspect this last backstabbing by McConnell was a last straw.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 24, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
Once upon a time I was a (soft) supporter of McConnell. Something changed with him and turned him into a feckless turncoat. Øbongo is demonstratively the worst, most destructive president we're ever suffered under. Mitch knows this. He knows how hard people worked to change the complexion of the senate. Now he is just pissing it all away.

As bad as Øbongo is, I just want him gone.

With Mitch - I want him punished for his betrayal.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
a) It's about damn time!

b) Trump is at least forcing issues and making people stop giving traitors like McConnell any consideration.

c) Last but not least I agree with 'Soup, he should be punished, and those speaking the truth should be thanked and encouraged to keep it up.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on July 26, 2015, 01:37:27 PM
a) It's about damn time!

b) Trump is at least forcing issues and making people stop giving traitors like McConnell any consideration.

c) Last but not least I agree with 'Soup, he should be punished, and those speaking the truth should be thanked and encouraged to keep it up.

     ::clapping:: ::clapping:: ::clapping::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2015, 07:53:57 AM
And Mitch's Bitches line up to slam Cruz...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/230138-senior-senate-republicans-line-up-to-rebuke-ted-cruz-for-criticizing-mitch-mcconnell/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/230138-senior-senate-republicans-line-up-to-rebuke-ted-cruz-for-criticizing-mitch-mcconnell/)

Hatch, Alexander, Cornyn...

To Cruz's credit, he threw their "rules" back in their faces -

After Hatch spoke, Cruz rose to defend himself for making the accusation that McConnell had lied when he denied striking a deal to allow the vote to revive the Export-Import Bank.

View gallerySenate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., left, …
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., left, accompanied by Secretary for the Majority of th …
He said he agreed with Hatch's calls for civility but declared, "Speaking the truth about actions is entirely consistent with civility."

And far from backing down, Cruz reiterated his complaint about McConnell. "My saying so may be uncomfortable but it is a simple fact, entirely consistent with decorum, and no member of this body has disputed that promise was made and that promise was broken."

Cowards hide behind the whimsical rules of man, people of principle don't fear the truth.  The cowards won the vote and slammed Cruz...they actually think they "won" when all they did is remind them what a f**king complete waste of human tissue they are!!!

Your days are numbered, assholes!!!


ETA - On a happier note, Lindsey's chances appear to be over, he just got "the kiss of death"...

Kiss of death (http://www.weaselzippers.us/230091-mccain-behind-graham-will-campaign-for-lindsey-in-new-hampshire/).

 ::hysterical::


ETA #2 - Crap, back to bad news...

McConnell treason worse than expected...he also blew up defunding Planned Parenthood Infanticide and Kate's Law (criminal illegals)!!!

That this POS used tactics made unpopular by the loathsome Dingy Harry is no surprise...turds are as turds are.

 ::gaah::   ::asskicking::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Trump left out of NH GOP debate...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/jeb-bush-rubio-lindsey-graham-in-trump-is-out-of-nh-voters-first-debate/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/jeb-bush-rubio-lindsey-graham-in-trump-is-out-of-nh-voters-first-debate/)

...what does "GOP" stand for now?  Gobs of Puss?

...outside of Walker I could GAFF who shows or doesn't...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2015, 07:04:42 AM
If you profess to loath Democrats and yet you still support an assclown like Jeb Bush, guess what?  You're an effing Prog! (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-27/jeb-bush-snares-a-democratic-moneyman-on-hamptons-tour)

 ::mooning::

ETA - More damning evidence against Jeb...in his own words he is saying it is un-American to uphold the law. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/230224-jeb-bush-deporting-illegal-aliens-is-not-an-american-value/)  Got that?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 28, 2015, 09:47:46 AM
"What I don’t get is that people like Trump because he “speaks his mind.” No he doesn’t. If he did, he’d say, “Look at me!” over and over." - Frank J @ imao.us
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2015, 11:22:38 AM
He's got a point, Trump dishes it out, doesn't let others define his position...that and "speaking your mind" (if taken literally and sans any filters whatsoever) is routinely not practiced in latter-day 'Merica.  Frank is a hardcore 24/7/365 words-mean-things guy.  Nothing wrong with that, it's just that...like most of us...the ideals are old fashioned...not wrong, just not popular with the beta population.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2015, 11:39:22 AM
B Hussein O thinks he could win a third term... (http://freebeacon.com/politics/obama-im-a-pretty-good-president-and-if-i-ran-for-a-third-term-i-could-win/)

"I actually think I’m a pretty good president," he said. "I think if I ran, I could win."

&

"But I can’t. So there’s a lot that I’d like to do to keep America moving, but the law is the law."

Uhh huh...

Let me fix that for ya...

"I actually think I’m a pretty good president,asshole" he said. "I think if I ran, I could winbe an even bigger asshole."

&

"But I can’t help but suck worse. So there’s a lot that I’d like to do to keep America moving down the toilet, but the law is pissing me off and it is time to end the law."

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: whimsicalmamapig on July 28, 2015, 05:27:24 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421677/carly-fiorina-communicator-campaign-trail-political-skills (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421677/carly-fiorina-communicator-campaign-trail-political-skills)

after all the anti-trump hyteric codswollop taking up all the realestate on NRO lately they finally did a nice job appraising Carly Fiorina. According to 3 of the latest polls she appears to be a possibility for  entry into the first fox debates and I truly believe that if she is not there it will be a big weapon that the republicans hand to hillary in her war on women meme.  I am impressed by the lady's poise, articulate speech and aggressive stance on many issues. She reminds me of Margaret Thatcher in many ways. I do hope we do not limit her to the possiblity of VP just because she is a woman. She far surpasses hillary and I would pay money to see a debate one on one between those 2
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 28, 2015, 05:58:04 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421677/carly-fiorina-communicator-campaign-trail-political-skills (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421677/carly-fiorina-communicator-campaign-trail-political-skills)

after all the anti-trump hyteric codswollop taking up all the realestate on NRO lately they finally did a nice job appraising Carly Fiorina. According to 3 of the latest polls she appears to be a possibility for  entry into the first fox debates and I truly believe that if she is not there it will be a big weapon that the republicans hand to hillary in her war on women meme.  I am impressed by the lady's poise, articulate speech and aggressive stance on many issues. She reminds me of Margaret Thatcher in many ways. I do hope we do not limit her to the possiblity of VP just because she is a woman. She far surpasses hillary and I would pay money to see a debate one on one between those 2

Carly and Walker are the only two declared GOP  candidates  I will even consider voting for. Anyone else WILL NOT  get my vote, even if it means "( name your statist asshat here)  Wins" - At this point I am not convinced my vote will be counted in any case, nor am I convinced that continuing to have a Democrat  in office will change anything in our outcome  from a practical standpoint - and I know having a e-GOP approved candidate will certainly not change the outcome. E-GOP are just statists  pretending to be a Conservative anyway.  I have been saying it since the Tea Party failed to take both the senate and the house in the first midterm election. Political solutions are now not possible.  The Dems will continue to abuse the power of government against their political enemies, the liberal media will continue to ignore it as they will ignore the rampant voter fraud and win by immigration tactic currently employed by this administration.

Of course Carly and Walker have ZERO chance of gaining the nomination and may be included only as a VP to try and salvage the votes of people like me. Well it won't work this time jackasses. You give me real change or the Dems can just keep power - as they are likely to do anyway through skullduggery. IN the end it all ends the same way .



 
 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: whimsicalmamapig on July 28, 2015, 06:30:24 PM
I have spent the last few days posting on article on NRO about Trump. Seems that NRO and the status quo feel that any support for Trump comes from the lo-info crowd and will not admit that the support for trump is more a stick in the eye to the republican elite than a real endorsement of trump.  There just seems to be a mind-block when it comes to the frustration level of the conservatives with the likes of boehner et al and no matter how many posters call fowl, NRO comes up the next day with another trump diatribe. They refuse delivery of the message they are being sent and that is to their peril as I say most would rather not vote than vote for Jeb, but doing so would jeopardize ground gained on the state and local levels
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 28, 2015, 07:12:37 PM
I have spent the last few days posting on article on NRO about Trump. Seems that NRO and the status quo feel that any support for Trump comes from the lo-info crowd and will not admit that the support for trump is more a stick in the eye to the republican elite than a real endorsement of trump.  There just seems to be a mind-block when it comes to the frustration level of the conservatives with the likes of boehner et al and no matter how many posters call fowl, NRO comes up the next day with another trump diatribe. They refuse delivery of the message they are being sent and that is to their peril as I say most would rather not vote than vote for Jeb, but doing so would jeopardize ground gained on the state and local levels

Well, yes and no.  I have every intention of voting. I don't have any intention of voting for an E-GOP stooge. I suppose not having a decent candidate may suppress voting, but I suspect that we will get at least one Perot-esque independent running that will serve to split the conservative vote. Even if we don't I can write in a Constitution party Candidate - or Frank J, or Bill Whittle or Mickey Mouse.  I can Still vote for the State and local folks who might matter

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2015, 09:04:45 PM
Agreed, I will vote for down ticket candidates I support, POTUS is up in the air, if another E-GOP stooge at the top I don't care who the running mate is they will not get my support, period.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2015, 07:16:25 AM
Are we going to fire up the "live chat" function (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/fox-republican-debate-lowers-threshold-120748.html) for this Fox debate?  I could use a more valid excuse for Thursday night drinking.
 :D

PS-Trump, trying to make new friends in duh Mediuh...

http://iotwreport.com/in-trumps-cabinet/ (http://iotwreport.com/in-trumps-cabinet/)

Heh!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 29, 2015, 12:24:01 PM
Libertas, your last link isn't viable.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/230285-juvenile-bernie-sanders-protesters-disrupt-scott-walker-philly-cheesesteak-stop-with-lewd-signs (http://www.weaselzippers.us/230285-juvenile-bernie-sanders-protesters-disrupt-scott-walker-philly-cheesesteak-stop-with-lewd-signs)

And, yes; they're loonz.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2015, 12:34:49 PM
OK, whacked my crappy link...can't even figure out how to edit it it is so monkeyed up.  We'll ride with yours.

Classy bunch, those Sanders serfs, real lottery losers...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2015, 06:49:12 AM
My sister asked me if I was watching the debate last night, I said "no".  She was surprised. 

Frankly, what's the point?

The E-GOP would rather suffer humiliating defeat in the general election than see the nomination go to anybody not in their cabal, period.

What else is there to discuss?

Anyway, FWIW...the Trump love-fest continues...

http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2015, 11:53:22 AM
And did somebody ask to peek behind the curtain some more?  Yeah, folks are making that easier to see now days...they just do not care that the corrupt rigged game is seen as corrupt and rigged anymore...

First up - Megyn Kelly at Faux News in classic proglodyte unfair & unbalanced style...goes after Trump as a typical war on wymenz right wing knuckledragging nutjob...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/newsmax-fox-news-and-megyn-kelly-could-not-kill-trumps-momentum-the-made-him-stronger/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/newsmax-fox-news-and-megyn-kelly-could-not-kill-trumps-momentum-the-made-him-stronger/)

...judging from the response it looks like the tactic backfired massively.  But the key point to make is Faux News and Megyn are just more in a long string of sorry-assed Ruling Class E-GOP puppets pretending to be unbiased.


Next up - Regarding that fat angry lesbo pig Rosie O'Fatass and Megynz defense of her psychotic gal pal...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/will-megyn-kelly-ever-ask-rosie-odonnell-to-apologize-for-her-foul-mouthed-abusive-ugly-attacks-on-donald-trump/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/will-megyn-kelly-ever-ask-rosie-odonnell-to-apologize-for-her-foul-mouthed-abusive-ugly-attacks-on-donald-trump/)

...don't hold your breath waiting for wymenz-come-first Megyn or Faux News to hold a prog to account.

PS-The comments on this one are a hoot though, good entertainment! 


And last but not least - the Fat Cats call to "take out" Trump...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/big-donors-ordered-gop-candidates-before-debate-take-out-trump/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/big-donors-ordered-gop-candidates-before-debate-take-out-trump/)

...yeah, Fat Cats...E-GOP/Ruling Class assclowns, crony capitalist crooks, sundry bagmen and wannabe cronies...

...and we wonder why more and more people are tuning out of politics and the GOP especially...

...the only sensible solution is dissolution...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 07, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
Carly Fiorina outperformed everyone, IMHO. She should have been in the varsity debate instead of the JV.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 07, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
Next time she will be.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 07, 2015, 04:48:19 PM
I watched the last 45 minutes or so. First, you know you are a moderate ( Jeb) when you constantly whine you are conservative. On the menu last night was Donald Trump. Fox hatchet job. Lost respect for Kelly. Once I saw the re play of the first question, the fix was in....and the focus group after the debate...where do they find these people? One debate, where each candidate got about 8 minutes each...and you have completely changed candidates? Dang.

Pubbies are so out of touch with that true conservatives crave. Instead of getting an actual CONSERVATIVE to get trumplike ( in speech), no, they feel he needs to be belittled because lets face it, just about everyone on that stage will bow down to the ruling elite and truly taking on democrats is not on the agenda.

Screw em...I'm out.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: whimsicalmamapig on August 07, 2015, 06:34:29 PM
I did enjoy Carly Fiorina wipe the floor with Chris Matthews after the early debate, He looked a little gobsmacked and with a definite need to change his pants afterwards.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 07, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
None of them are going to be President.  We have crossed the point of no return demographically.  It is now mathematically impossible for a Republican to win the White House.  And it wouldn't matter if one did.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 07, 2015, 08:01:28 PM
My sister asked me if I was watching the debate last night, I said "no".  She was surprised. 

Frankly, what's the point?

The E-GOP would rather suffer humiliating defeat in the general election than see the nomination go to anybody not in their cabal, period.

What else is there to discuss?

Anyway, FWIW...the Trump love-fest continues...

http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm)

My brother (I love him dearly but he drives me crazy) asked me if I had watched and was miffed when I said "no". He went on to commend Jeb, Crusty, and huckleberry on their performances. Oh and he said that Rubio did well too.

And he said that kelly gave Trump what he deserved (he very strongly dislikes Trump). He was also appreciative of the boos that Trump got when he refused to "pledge".

Then it got to be my turn. I told him that I was tired of only having losers like McStain and Mittens to vote for and that if Jeb is the pubbie's guy I'll go for Trump the Independent.

I probably won't be hearing from him for a while.
 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 08, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
Yeah.  They're laying it on thick already with the "sitting it out on principle is just a vote for the Dems!" scaremongering.  This PJMedia article is a typical example: http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-opening-of-rino-season/ (http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-opening-of-rino-season/)

I swear, the GOP are born losers.  They just have a loser's mind.  No vision.  Reactionary, scared of their own shadows.  I don't think there is a political solution to the fustercluck this country has turned into, but if there is to be one, one thing's for sure: the GOP are standing in the way of it.

Starting with that premise, it seems to me that getting rid of the GOP (or its fossilized leadership at least) is a necessary first step.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 08, 2015, 03:03:50 AM
Screw that noise:  "sitting it out on principle is just a vote for the Dems!" 

"Talk to the hand".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 08, 2015, 05:13:30 AM

I swear, the GOP are born losers.  They just have a loser's mind.  No vision.  Reactionary, scared of their own shadows.  I don't think there is a political solution to the fustercluck this country has turned into, but if there is to be one, one thing's for sure: the GOP are standing in the way of it.


The GOP consists of corrupt narcissists (also known as politicians)  who can only play junior varsity (GOP) because they aren't good enough for the varsity team.(DEMS)
They only care about self aggrandizement and power and keeping their positions.  They are in no way different from Democrats except that they suck more at what they do.
They can do this and "represent us" because no sane individual wants power of the lives of others, and freedom loving people are the only sane people.


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: whimsicalmamapig on August 08, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
None of them are going to be President.  We have crossed the point of no return demographically.  It is now mathematically impossible for a Republican to win the White House.  And it wouldn't matter if one did.

I am trying to explain just such a concept to the posters at NR and my they are stubborn in their ill-fated optimism for Cruz. Oh well, I suppose they need to cling to something as they do not remind me of the types who are preparing for the alternate form of change.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
I would vote for a corpse over any E-GOP stooge, at least the corpse won't screw me over, but yeah if I vote it won't be for anybody but a Liberty candidate and even then it will be knowing there will not be any change from our suicidal trajectory, certainly nothing of a sustainable nature.  Glock properly mentions demographics which are being rigged by open border no questions allowed progs, not to mention laughably lax voting rules and no ID required insanity.  The game is rigged, the results certain, the end is unavoidable.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on August 10, 2015, 07:07:39 AM
I would vote for a corpse over any E-GOP stooge, at least the corpse won't screw me over,

Don't feel pregnant. You won't be the only one.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 10, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Since the Curmudgeon still thinks he should have his own blog page and not join us here.. ::grouphug::)
 

https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/today-i-cant-ignore-the-bullsh*t-but-tomorrow-will-be-better/

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Today I Can’t Ignore The Bullsh*t (But Tomorrow Will Be Better)
Posted on August 10, 2015   by Adaptive Curmudgeon

The election cycle’s stupid is already flowing. The press is in heat for their BFF party and begging for a quick grope under the bleachers. Unbiased journalists like former White House Communications Director George Stephanopoulos, Imaginary War Hero Brian Williams, and America’s State Sponsored Pravda Analogue are busily examining why Fox News is the work of Satan. Fox news is making bank while their competitors languish. Newspapers employ semi-literate journalist majors to write half assed articles about why Americans are dickheads. Their customers, possibly tiring of being called dickheads, turn to Facebook for news. Thomas Sowell writes eloquent pieces about why journalist majors are semi-literate and gets a small loyal following and constant haranguing by folks that can’t abide a black conservative.

A third of the populace is terrified by Trump’s hair and another third is delighted to see the first third quaking in fear. The remaining third missed the whole thing while playing with their smart phone.

Skeletons are coming out of closets (mostly Hillary’s). Skeletons are being stuffed back in closets (also mostly Hillary’s).

Six campaign volunteers in an Iowa Dairy Queen will be questioned by a reporter who pretends that unemployable 25 year old unpaid interns grok the concerns of a long haul trucker with three ex-wives, a pipeline roughneck with a bad back, and a devout sewer inspector in Walla Walla. Later, everyone will pretend to care about New Hampshire.

One party will carefully pretend it doesn’t want to outlaw guns. The other party will carefully avoid mentioning sex.

Everyone will discuss gay cakes and the role of the family. The $18,390,342,665,743.85 debt, like Volvemort, will never be spoken aloud.

Long policy papers will be written by the unfortunate 25 year old unpaid interns who weren’t pretty enough to be shipped to an Iowa Diary Queen. They aspire to one day have their own wikipedia page but will never pay off their student loans. Short slogans, meanwhile, will be written by 50 year old, well paid PR flaks who drop cash on advertisers that enjoy the quadrennial bonus money. Etcetera…

I haven’t had much to say about it. As 2016 drags toward us like a shambling zombie I remind myself that watching a marionette promise sunshine isn’t the same as looking out the window and scanning for clouds. For those times when I fall off the wagon, please forgive me.

Today is such a day. Forgive me.

The tone of politics has changed in my lifetime. Americans always bitch (and I think that’s healthy) but the bitching seems more bitter each year. I remember disagreements about politics in all eras but I never felt quite as hated as the last decade or so. I’ve had a hard time articulating what changed. The Z-Man sums it up better than I:

    “I was born into a country where people, who were like me, tried hard to win my vote. I now live in a country where people who hate me and are nothing like me chase the votes of people who hate me. “

Exactly! Candidates who are nothing like me will spend most of 2016 pursuing the votes of people who hate me. I’m stuck standing around like Rodney Dangerfield. What’s wrong with my vote? Doesn’t anyone want it?

Also, for all of my joking about urbane yahoos and 25 year old unemployed interns, I don’t hate them. But they hate me. Not for anything personal. I’m hated because I live in reality. I feed pigs, butcher them, and make bacon. I cut firewood because it’s cold in the winter. I go fishing. It doesn’t get more real than that. People who go apesh*t over a safari in Zimbabwe tend to find my very existence inconveniently and diametrically opposed to them. Not my opinions but my very existence. Some of us, when faced with a differing viewpoint, might ignore it or try to learn from it. Others might try to isolate the heathen and stamp him out.

I’m not alone. If you’re reading my blog, there’s a good chance they hate you too. Keep your head down or scream at the incoming tide as you see fit. I wish you the best of luck.


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 10, 2015, 07:17:33 PM
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Since the Curmudgeon still thinks he should have his own blog page and not join us here.. ::grouphug::)

It is unfortunate (he said in an entirely selfish way). When I encounter people who still possess uncommonly common sense I seek their company. Perhaps he'll allow us to worship him from afar.

 ::devil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 10, 2015, 07:26:32 PM
Sad, disgusting, outrageous and true.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 10, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
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Since the Curmudgeon still thinks he should have his own blog page and not join us here.. ::grouphug::)

It is unfortunate (he said in an entirely selfish way). When I encounter people who still possess uncommonly common sense I seek their company. Perhaps he'll allow us to worship him from afar.

 ::devil::

It was meant facetiously ... and entirely selfishly.  I still pretty honored when Fran decides to stop by...and the curmudgeon so often says what I think so much more eloquently than I can.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 10, 2015, 08:44:22 PM
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Since the Curmudgeon still thinks he should have his own blog page and not join us here.. ::grouphug::)

It is unfortunate (he said in an entirely selfish way). When I encounter people who still possess uncommonly common sense I seek their company. Perhaps he'll allow us to worship him from afar.

 ::devil::

It was meant facetiously ... and entirely selfishly.  I still pretty honored when Fran decides to stop by...and the curmudgeon so often says what I think so much more eloquently than I can.


Me too  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2015, 07:10:23 AM
Ditto, except this part -

"I’m not alone. If you’re reading my blog, there’s a good chance they hate you too. Keep your head down or scream at the incoming tide as you see fit. I wish you the best of luck."

I'd change that to "Keep your powder dry and hone your skills, they'll be needed sooner than you think".

Other than that...

 ::clapping::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2015, 07:09:03 AM
The latest DemonRat NH poll...no mater how you view it, it is a perfect reflection of how effed up this nation is that either of these two morons could be supported by anybody... (http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/08/poll_bernie_sanders_surges_ahead_of_hillary_clinton_in_nh_44_37)and as a side commentary poor Bernie has to be depressed he cannot woo more fools away from a bloodied Hildabeast, at least he is open and honest about who he is and has so far remained free of legal and ethical quagmires of his own making.

But, what difference does it make?

Zero.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 12, 2015, 01:45:56 PM
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So you think a man who builds mirror-penis skyscrapers and names them all after himself is cause for hope? Rilly? To say that watching people fawn over the psycho carnival barker Trump makes me nauseous with despair is putting it mildly.

The Barnhardt Axiom:

The fact that a given person is holding or even seeking high-level public office is, in and of itself, proof that said person is morally and/or psychologically UNFIT to hold public office.

So, who said the following? I’ll give you forty-seven guesses:

1) “I probably identify more as Democrat.”

2) “I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

3) “Nancy — you’re the best. Congrats. [signature]”
—Handwritten note to Speaker Nancy Pelosi

4) “Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States.”

5) “I’m totally pro-choice.”

6) “I want to see the abortion issue removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors.”

7) “I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care.”

8) “The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans… We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan.”

9) “By imposing a one-time 14.25 percent net-worth tax on the richest individuals and trusts, we can put America on sound financial footing for the next century.”

10) “I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.”

Stumped?  I’ll give you a hint.  This person has donated over $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, and Hillary Clinton sat in the FRONT ROW of this person’s most recent wedding.

I’d just like to also mention for the record the fact that we are all up-in-arms about Pope Francid and his Franboys getting ready to eviscerate the sacrament of marriage later this fall, but don’t even bat an eyelash when public figures have a string of ex-spouses.  I guess I’m just being completely unreasonable, unrealistic and… wait for it… IMMODERATE to expect any degree of intellectual consistency from anyone, ever.  After all, it’s a post-modern world, and the essence and battlecry of modernism is, “WE DON’T ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT WE BELIEVE!”

So here’s the answer.  All of the quotes above are from the second coming of George Washington, or Constantine – oh, no wait.  The second coming of Constantine is Putin…

…That developer of mirror-penis skyscrapers which he then names after himself, because that is so totally NOT indicative of anything even remotely problematic:

The only function I would attend with Bill and/or Hillary Clinton, people who are rapists, murderers and guilty of capital crimes against humanity, would be their public executions. (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/08/11/so-you-think-a-man-who-builds-mirror-penis-skyscrapers-and-names-them-all-after-himself-is-cause-for-hope/[/url)

And National Polls say (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html) Trump is the current choice of the Amercian people - because he is really a Statist Narcisssitic asshat and is the new choice for non-conservatives to run for President under the GOP banner.  I think the eGOP is attacking him just to make him look populist and so they can pretend that he isn't thier first choice.  They knew perfectly well they couldn't nominate anyone within the ranks- they knew that there would be great pressure for a Tea-Party non-establishment type, so they back room deal a shameless narcissistic guy who would be easy to manipulate into this position.

Conspiracy Theory? Perhaps. But I think its perfectly reasonable they the establishment needed a new Ron Paul to make liberty and freedom minded people look like ignorant tupe wearing bigots. The poll numbers are proably all fake, but even if they aren't that is the point isn't it? They are either trying to lead the polls or the polls have already been led..


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 12, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Larry Correia's take, which is pretty funny in spots.  And ya, he's been pretty good as picking it in the past.

Cruz vs Hillary

http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/08/11/my-election-predictions/ (http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/08/11/my-election-predictions/)

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Bernie is nuts, but he’s honest. He skips right over all the typical democrat feel good, heart string tugging reasons why they think the government should control everything, and gets right to the government controlling everything. He is economically illiterate. Those Occupy Democrat memes going around Facebook where they are quoting Bernie f***ing up some basic economic principle are literally painful. Every time you share one of those, an accountant dies.

I've had to borrow a few lives from my cat, due to Facebook exposure.   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 12, 2015, 02:34:18 PM
he goes on to say what I was saying about Trump

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The thing everybody needs to remember is that every single election cycle we go through this period where the media tries to pick the eventual GOP candidate for us. Their criteria are A. Can the democrat eventually beat them? And B. If they do somehow win, will they not rock the boat too bad for democrats? McCain is the greatest example of that ever. This time around their obvious pick was Jeb Bush. For weeks it was Jeb, Jeb, Jeb. Only Jeb was dull and Trump makes great TV. If you look at early polling it almost always correlates with how much media attention the candidate is receiving. So, a candidate polling at 5% is usually getting 5% of the coverage, etc.

Trump comes along, he’s bombastic, unapologetic, and simply does not give a sh*t. The real lesson to be taken from Trump and Bernie is that many Americans are so damned tired of the establishment and the media that they’ll root for anybody, no matter how crazy they are, if they’ll just quit sucking up and actually stand for something.

But here is the problem with Trump, and it isn’t his personality or being willing to insult people (because if I’m judging these people on personality, I’d probably get along with him in person way better than most of the others, and the Rosie line made me do a spit take). It is because he’s been a Republican less time than Bernie has been a Democrat. When I’ve talked to the hard core Stormtrumpers they’ll say he’s great on the border! Okay, but what about his record on abortion, guns, crony capitalism, government intervention, eminent domain, and single payer healthcare? Suck, suck, suck… oh but on that one he evolved… This week.

For the people convinced that Trump is the Real Conservative in the race, and that the other 15 are all RINOs, put down the crack pipe. This is the same guy who a couple of years ago was outraged about violent videogames and saying how somebody needed to do something about them. Yeah, there’s a dude totally grounded in the Bill of Rights.

And before any fanatical Trump fan yells at me again about Megan Kelly was mean and how I just listen to FOX News, I cancelled cable like a year ago, so I don’t watch TV news unless I’m on it. Sheesh. The hard core Trump fans remind me a lot of the old hard core Ron Paul fans.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
"They knew perfectly well they couldn't nominate anyone within the ranks- they knew that there would be great pressure for a Tea-Party non-establishment type, so they back room deal a shameless narcissistic guy who would be easy to manipulate into this position."

Whoa, Nelly!  Next thing you know Weisshaupt will be telling us there is no difference between the DemonRats and Republiprogs!

/

 ;D

And I like Larry's humor and style, several quips there made me chortle (the Hillary sorta being a "woman shaped carbon based life form" being one instance!) and I think his analysis is spot on.  But, like he acknowledged, Cruz's biggest problem is the GOP machine and all the Ruling Class asshats connected to it.  They will use whatever they have to to be sure the likes of Cruz never EVER gets their nomination.  The Butthead has probably been secretly gathering all sorts of manufactured BS and is busy printing thousands of "You will do this or I will bury you!" business cards to employ on contributors, congresscritters, media hacks and sundry other useful idiots.  Plus, Cruz has already drawn the ire of every Grand Poohbah in the E-GOP, they will delight in crucifying him.  Plus, I think he is greatly overestimating the intelligence of the E-GOP...or underestimating its stupidity, works either way...and he is discounting the chances of Jeb.  Jeb, like McCain is not well liked.  Jeb, like McCain seems to garner this larger-than-the-GOP appeal...that mentally handicapped kind of Zen that brings in swarms of "independent" voters that the establishment poohbahs always think will catapult them over the top and eliminate the need to give a rats ass about the rabble-rousing conservative and tea party ilk.  Plus, he habla Espanol, so the poohbahs will be dizzy with delight in having a candidate who will woo the undocumented American voter.  And for some reason he thinks it unusual for the GOP to pick as big an ass as the Dem's.  And, I think he understates the real chances of Walker.  Unlike Cruz or even Paul or Rubio...Walker has not been on the E-GOP's targeting radar.  Not that he couldn't quickly ascend, I just think the type of guy Walker is, the time he takes to cultivate support...if he begins to get traction with the people he could just keep gaining strength and roll to victory before the E-GOP could do squat about it.  That is the one good thing about the Trump flirtation and the rising buzz of Fiorina, and the benefit of Cruz and Paul and Rubio...it makes it harder for the E-GOP to focus its vitriol.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 12, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
I wish that I could claim credit for Trump. If I could I'd call it "Soup's Revenge"

He would be a worse train wreck that even Øbongo.

"The hell you say!"

Yep, cuz no one - left or right - would be willing to work with him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2015, 07:07:47 AM
Same was true of Perot, Red/Blue would have blown him off too.

See how little has changed?

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 13, 2015, 07:55:55 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/12/cnn-poll-of-iowa-trump-22-carson-14-walker-9-cruz-8-fiorina-7/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/12/cnn-poll-of-iowa-trump-22-carson-14-walker-9-cruz-8-fiorina-7/)

Throw away Trump, and I really would have no problem with that top 4.  As good as you could ask for.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 13, 2015, 08:35:23 AM
I have problems with Carson's 2A stuff.
Fiorina isn't a conservative.
Cruz is constitutionally ineligible (although I like him, I think) along with his wife's Goldman connections.
Walker has some good points but I just read he committed $400 million of state funds to some sports arena
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 13, 2015, 08:36:38 AM
Oh, I don't like for President but am enjoying how he's shaking things up and making the e-GOP pee their pants
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 13, 2015, 10:33:07 AM
Instapundit:

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August 11, 2015

VACLAV HAVEL’S ‘POWER OF THE POWERLESS’ ENDURES, J. Christian Adams writes (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2015/08/10/5282/), and notes that Havel’s writing also explains why “The problems this nation faces will not vanish with the election of a Republican, no matter what the Beltway consultants tell you in radio ads and fundraising emails.  The problems run much deeper now. The bureaucratic state has become unmoored from the political branches.”
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 13, 2015, 10:46:47 AM
I remember (vaguely) from my college history courses that a president took on the bureaucracy.
I want to say it was Cleveland but I could be wrong.

A president who would take that battle on (and win) would go down as one of the greatest
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2015, 10:56:07 AM
Instapundit:

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August 11, 2015

VACLAV HAVEL’S ‘POWER OF THE POWERLESS’ ENDURES, J. Christian Adams writes (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2015/08/10/5282/), and notes that Havel’s writing also explains why “The problems this nation faces will not vanish with the election of a Republican, no matter what the Beltway consultants tell you in radio ads and fundraising emails.  The problems run much deeper now. The bureaucratic state has become unmoored from the political branches.”

Havel described the post-totalitarian system as:

… thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government, the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class, the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation, depriving people of information is called making it available …  and the arbitrary use of power is called observing the legal code.

What was down is up, what is outside is in, what was wrong is now right. Some call this a fundamental transformation.  Havel calls it the culture of the lie.
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A person who has been seduced by the consumer value system, whose identity is dissolved in an amalgam of the accouterments of mass civilization, and who has no roots in the order of being, no sense of responsibility for anything higher than his own personal survival, is a demoralized person. The system depends on this demoralization, deepens it, is in fact a projection of it into society.
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Havel describes a post-totalitarian system:

… utterly obsessed with the need to bind everything in a single order; life in such a state is thoroughly permeated by a dense network of regulations, proclamations, directives, norms, orders, and rules. (It is not called a bureaucratic system without good reason.) … [The] legal code serves the post-totalitarian system in this direct way as well, that is, it too forms a part of the world of regulations and prohibitions … Like ideology, the legal code functions as an excuse. It wraps the base exercise of power in the noble apparel of the letter of the law.

I’ll leave it to you, the reader, to decide whether America in 2015 is closer to Jefferson’s vision or Havel’s nightmare.

Havel warned that in Western democracies, with greater technology, “people are manipulated in ways that are infinitely more subtle and refined than the brutal methods used in the post totalitarian society.” Secularized, Western democracy may invite, according to Havel, an inadequate bulwark against the rise of the suffocating state.

But to cling to the notion of traditional parliamentary democracy as one’s political ideal and to succumb to the illusion that only this tried and true form is capable of guaranteeing human beings enduring dignity and an independent role in society would, in my opinion, be at the very least, shortsighted.

The Crusader who would dismantle this behemoth would indeed go down in history AP, but alas that is a battle that cannot be won, not within the system anyway.

So...

Sadly, I must go with "nightmare", the evidence is overwhelming and the momentum irreversible.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2015, 11:18:26 AM
PS- This is scary! (http://iotwreport.com/look-who-wants-to-be-trumps-vp/)

But, I don't think suicide is in Donald's nature...

But maybe bad prognostications are in his wheelhouse...

http://iotwreport.com/trump-expects-to-run-against-joe-biden/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-expects-to-run-against-joe-biden/)

Plugs?   ::laughonfloor::

Even assuming Clinton can't beat the rap...

The Progs would go all-in on Fauxahontas or even Bernie Sanders before getting to lower tier idiots like Biden, Gore or Kerry or whatever...

Not that it makes a difference to us...

And...

Was not aware of a smear campaign against Carson, but he is responding to it...

http://iotwreport.com/ben-carson-responds-to-fetal-tissue-smear/ (http://iotwreport.com/ben-carson-responds-to-fetal-tissue-smear/)

It's beyond obvious this came from the Ruling Class, but which E-GOP stooge?  Doesn't matter...it's right out of The Butthead manual...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 14, 2015, 12:24:45 PM
"BlackLivesMatter" chased Bernie Sanders off the stage, twice and was covered by the internet media.

This ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196040/Jeb-Bush-forced-abandon-rally-early-activists-start-chanting-Black-Lives-Matter.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196040/Jeb-Bush-forced-abandon-rally-early-activists-start-chanting-Black-Lives-Matter.html)

.... didn't find it anywhere on American media.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 15, 2015, 03:49:37 PM
This has Trump-Funded Psy-op written all over it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRKhrWLHv4Q)

But these two "Stump for Trump" women are hilarious. I love how one's job is just to sit there providing that secondary black-attitude tribal affirmation to what the first says - like watching a Black church revival where they say 'Amen Brother' after every sentence... its so stereo-typical and so effective, that yeah, i think its planned to be that way, and probably deployed by the Trump team to put down the #blacklivesmatter- (but  the lives of conservatives don't) hashtag nonsense before it begins ... .


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2015, 08:40:07 AM
That video is showing up everywhere.  I swear we have it in three difference links now!

But, to the larger point...

I guess I don't care if Trump is a gimmick.  Let's assume the worst, let's say Faux News and the E-GOP/Ruling Class/Neo-Con cabal is correct and Trump is there to stink up the GOP festivities...so effing what?!

Who is Trump pissing off?

The E-GOP/Ruling Class/Neo-Con crowd..or the genuinely conservative/tea party and more independent-minded sort?

The E-GOP/Ruling Class/Neo-Con crowd of course!  So, debate over.

As I heard many times..."I like what Trump is saying, I'm just not sure I like it coming from Trump".

Exactly!

If this helps to flush out the establishment clowns and forces them to double-down on stupid or lie about their position or waffle at all...the inclusion of Trump is serving a much needed service...and if it emboldens better candidates to step up their game, so much the better.

I like the idea of something shiny drawing the lion's share of Rovian saboteurs, let them spend precious resources!   ::evil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
Oh, sh*t!

An endorsement from a sh*thead is not an endorsement you should accept, if Donald were smart he'd disavow this widow-suing steriod-addled twitchy-headed butt-monkey!!! (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-17/jessie-ventura-endorses-donald-trump-wants-be-his-running-mate)

And something I discovered recently, my ZH account has been reawakened...I must have passed some banishment period, but like a hardened prisoner released from the gulag, I'm not moderating my voice...could not pass the opportunity to light up this butt-monkey!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 17, 2015, 01:00:51 PM
Running mate -- not gonna happen. 

And I suspect Trump will appear almost anywhere and with almost anyone and say "he/she is nice" about almost anyone with their fangs not out for him.  He's a businessman, a networker, and an opportunist; "almost never pass up a chance to make a useful connection".

Notice I wrote "almost"; the man is no fool.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2015, 01:07:41 PM
Agreed.

But, whatever keeps the E-GOP fixated, it's all good as far as I care.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 20, 2015, 08:05:47 AM
Check this out!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/DeezNutsTV_zpsygyq7qas.png)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/presidential-candidate-deez-nuts-surges-polls (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/presidential-candidate-deez-nuts-surges-polls)

Bwuuhaahaaa!




And in other breaking news...E-GOP darling Jeb "frontera abierta" Bush gets cushy $1.3M "consulting" gig with Lehman for giving them Florida pension funds (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job), see? Cronyism works!  Vote Jeb!  He'll help himself to your pension too!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 20, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jeb-bush-defends-use-term-anchor-baby-n413241 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jeb-bush-defends-use-term-anchor-baby-n413241)


I'm guessing the republican elite are cashing in their chips with jeb, since he seems to be on the attack towards Trump almost non stop.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 20, 2015, 08:57:10 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jeb-bush-defends-use-term-anchor-baby-n413241 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jeb-bush-defends-use-term-anchor-baby-n413241)


I'm guessing the republican elite are cashing in their chips with jeb, since he seems to be on the attack towards Trump almost non stop.

Yeah good luck.  At this point if its anyone but Walker, Cruz, or Carly,  we can have President Hillary leading from behind bars.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2015, 11:48:57 AM
The entertainment factor for 2016 could be getting better.

"The decision hasn't been made when to make the announcement to go independent," according to the source, thought it's likely to occur when Clinton "starts piling up delegates with the help of Wall Street money and her formidable ground operation." (http://www.weaselzippers.us/233025-watch-hillarys-knickers-get-in-a-real-twist-bernie-sanders-third-party-run-if-he-does-not-get-nomination/)

Heh.  Do it Bernie!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 31, 2015, 01:13:09 PM
For what it's worth, Ben Carson has pulled into a tie with Trump in Iowa, both at 23% in latest Monmouth Poll. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politics/poll-donald-trump-ben-carson-tied-iowa-monmouth/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2015, 01:30:28 PM
Pretty clear indication, with Trump and Carson doing well, the electorate wants something else than Washington regulars.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 31, 2015, 05:07:02 PM
Yes, very clear.  Voters on both sides of the spectrum are sick of the DC Establishment.  I'm sure both parties are furiously scheming on how to make sure it still ends up Bush v. Clinton.

I heard the state GOP here in NC, and in Virginia as well, are planning to require a loyalty oath for candidates to appear on the ballot as a Republican.  They're going to require candidates (namely Trump) pledge to not run as an independent or else become ineligible for the ballot.  Surprised?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2015, 07:08:17 AM
Yes, very clear.  Voters on both sides of the spectrum are sick of the DC Establishment.  I'm sure both parties are furiously scheming on how to make sure it still ends up Bush v. Clinton.

I heard the state GOP here in NC, and in Virginia as well, are planning to require a loyalty oath for candidates to appear on the ballot as a Republican. They're going to require candidates (namely Trump) pledge to not run as an independent or else become ineligible for the ballot.  Surprised?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5KyLzFdgI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5KyLzFdgI)

Surprised?  Hell no.  What is shocking though is how many people who profess a love of liberty and Founding Principles can stay anywhere near the vomit-inducing stench that is the latter day Republican Party!

And thanks to their coddling of the progressive Democrats and the incremental destruction of American institutions and society on an almost uninterrupted timeline (Reagan Era excepted) we are now at a point in time where putting a POS like Obama in office means any other POS can do that sh*t too! (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-31/monday-humor-go-west-young-men)

Amurikah, f**k it!

 ::upsidedownflag::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on September 01, 2015, 02:54:34 PM
Pretty clear indication, with Trump and Carson doing well, the electorate wants something else than Washington regulars.

ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!!!   Too bad it's twenty years too late............



Though,  the circus with Trump and to a lessor extent Bernie, means that maybe it will take the negativity that the lamestream media would be putting on the better Republican candidates (aka,  one of the ones not favored by Republican "leadership").   If it becomes hillary vs. "someone they never heard of of",  do you think some would vote "for never heard of"?   One of the reasons why people won't vote for most Republicans is because "they heard something negative".   Maybe knowing nothing would be better for the low info voter?  Just get them mad at Hillary and her parade of bullsh*t.   Or at least get them to vote for Sanders.

I am starting to wonder what would happen if BOTH Trump and Bernie ran third party.   If they both pulled away a good amount of voters from both parties, how would it end up balancing?    Just among my Democrat facebook friends,  there are quite a few that favor Sanders over Hillary.    If that circus would give Carson the ability to pull it off and win?   

Has Hillary finally been wounded enough politically?

Would a third party Sanders pull away enough Democrats voters?

Would Trump supporters bail on Trump if Carson (or one of the candidates like him) was on the Republican ticket.

Since I have low expectations for this cycle,   it may end up being far more interesting then we think.

Or are we just setting ourselves up for the first openly Socialist president?


The sooner we get Bush, Christie, Graham, Pataki out the better.   None of those candidates can win. 

I think Rick Perry will be the first to end his campaign.  Its going no where so far. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 01, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
You have Democrat Facebook friends?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on September 01, 2015, 05:08:04 PM
You have Democrat Facebook friends?

ha ha,  mostly ex co workers etc.   most are nice enough people,  just stupid..........
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on September 01, 2015, 05:08:27 PM
Sanders and Trump 3rd party....lol....what a hoot it would be.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 02, 2015, 07:20:06 AM
Both probably will end up going that route...

A thoroughly corrupt and criminal Clinton is still doing well, Plugs looks like he'll enter the fray...the others in the DemonRat camp cannot even make any headway given the horsesh*t nature of the lead dog...and the DemoProgs are just as hard as the Pubbies on non-conformists.

And now Jeb in a desperate move to revive his campaign (actually a desperate move to prove to the fat cat contributors he is still viable) he is going hard after Trump and the centerpiece of his assault appears to be the pot calling the kettle black (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150901/us--gop_2016-bush-f900e976eb.html)!

 ::hysterical::

And just think, we have what, 14 more months of this sh*t?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on September 02, 2015, 07:22:21 AM
Adlai Romney's coming back to ensure a GOP loss
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 02, 2015, 07:32:28 AM
Looks like this election I'll be writing in "Lizard People"...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2015, 07:10:42 AM
RNC "privately" reached out to candidates about signing a "loyalty pledge" (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/republican-national-committee-2016-campaign-pledge-213283).

Private...in a public way.  Gotchya.

“I [name] affirm that if I do not win the 2016 Republican nomination for president of the United States I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee regardless of who it is,” the pledge reads. “I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek or accept the nomination for president of any other party.”

Looks better in the German translation -

Ich verspreche bei Todesstrafe meine vollständige und totale Loyalität zum E-GOP und der Führung davon, egal wie böse sie auch sein mögen oder was das Böse sie von mir verlangen zu begehen!

I pledge upon pain of death my complete and total allegiance to the E-GOP and the leadership thereof no matter how evil they may be or what evil they ask of me to commit!

Signed in their own blood, naturally.

Beugen Sie vor Ihrem Meister!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 04, 2015, 11:30:07 AM
(http://iotwreportcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/jeb-bush-sleepy-woman--300x195.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/woman-falls-asleep-during-jeb-bush-speech/ (http://iotwreport.com/woman-falls-asleep-during-jeb-bush-speech/)

 ::hysterical::

Obviously, she is the only one in that room who is a normal human being!


And this  - http://iotwreport.com/bob-dole-announces-candidacy/ (http://iotwreport.com/bob-dole-announces-candidacy/)

 ::facepalm::

Well, why not?  Latter-day America is a circus...

Seriously...I kinda lost track of 'ol Bob...didn't even know he was still kicking.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2015, 08:01:55 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/gross-colbert-launches-late-show-with-donald-trump-on-screen-with-kkk-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/gross-colbert-launches-late-show-with-donald-trump-on-screen-with-kkk-video/)

Bashes Trump for 6 minutes...tosses up a pic of Trump and a pick of cross-burning Klansmen...and brings on a piece of deadwood like Jeb...

And there are people surprised his ratings sucked on a scale usually reserved for MSNBC?   ::laughonfloor::

Oh, and it didn't seem to hurt Donald one bit...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/donald-trump-ben-carson-cnn-poll/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/donald-trump-ben-carson-cnn-poll/index.html)

Another Epic Fail by the Proglodyte Propaganda Puppets!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 10, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
An Open Letter To Jonah Goldberg – RE: The GOP and Donald Trump (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/07/an-open-letter-to-jonah-goldberg-re-the-gop-and-donald-trump/)

This is a good read.  It's a lengthy and detailed retort to the mandarins of the GOP establishment, who are currently whining about the Donald Trump phenomenon and resorting to their usual "But you have to accept our sh*t sandwich because it's not quite as awful as the Democrats'!" tactic.

Quote
And, you wonder why we’re frustrated, desperate for a person who can actually articulate some kind of push-back? Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are what the GOP give us? SERIOUSLY?

Which leads to the next of your GOP talking points. Where you opine on Fox:

    “Politics is a game where you don’t get everything you want”

Fair enough. But considering we of questionable judgment have simply been demanding common sense, ie. fiscal discipline, a BUDGET would be nice.

The last federal budget was passed in September of 2007, and EVERY FLIPPING INSUFFERABLE YEAR we have to go through the predictable fiasco of a Government Shutdown Standoff and/or a Debt Ceiling increase specifically because there is NO BUDGET!

That’s a strategy?

That’s the GOP strategy?  Essentially:  Lets plan for an annual battle against articulate Democrats and Presidential charm, using a creepy guy who cries and another old mumbling fool who dodders, knowing full well the MSM is on the side of the other guy to begin with?

THAT’S YOUR GOP STRATEGY?

Don’t tell me it’s not, because if it wasn’t there’d be something else being done – there isn’t.


Do RTWT.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on September 10, 2015, 09:04:05 PM

This is a good read.  It's a lengthy and detailed retort to the mandarins of the GOP establishment, who are currently whining about the Donald Trump phenomenon and resorting to their usual "But you have to accept our sh*t sandwich because it's not quite as awful as the Democrats'!" tactic.

The poor fella's acts like the EGOP is actually listening to him. He's evidently delusional.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on September 10, 2015, 09:34:26 PM
Yep.  Nice list there; he hit every nail on the head.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 11, 2015, 09:17:08 AM
Yeah, all that "remember" and "who" stuff...we've all chronicled E-GOP treachery nine ways to Sunday and then some.  Just like the Democrats have been taken completely over by Progressives the Republicans have been completely taken over by Big Government stooges.  And I do not seriously think he wrote this piece to shame the GOP, neither they or the Dems know shame, this was written to those who want nothing or should want nothing to do with either party.  The issue of national survival, if there is anything at this point to salvage, is bigger than party, it is bigger than Trump or any one person.  That is the larger message...leave them all to die, take control of your own destiny.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 12, 2015, 09:53:57 PM
(http://alibertarianfuture.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/insanity-is-doing-the-same-thing-over-again-and-expecting-different-results-voting.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2015, 08:58:58 AM
Hey, I don't get it?

http://iotwreport.com/the-idiocy-of-bernie-sanders/ (http://iotwreport.com/the-idiocy-of-bernie-sanders/)

What's the problem?  Fire up the presses!

#CloserToImplosion
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on September 16, 2015, 08:01:00 AM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=11&v=Z7uig-o_Eoo#)

 ::laughonfloor::

 ::thinking::

(http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/sleeping-smileys/smiley_to_sleep012.gif)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
Bwuuhahaa!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 16, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
I wonder what kind of sededative they had.  lol
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
More Jebulations - http://iotwreport.com/jeb-bush-bright-america-ad-uses-footage-from-uk-asia/ (http://iotwreport.com/jeb-bush-bright-america-ad-uses-footage-from-uk-asia/)

Jesh, what a complete moron!

 ::rolllaughing::

I think several more percentage points just expanded to everyone else's favor!

In other news...

http://iotwreport.com/go-home-emily/ (http://iotwreport.com/go-home-emily/)

Yeah, toots...we'd have no problem kicking the fuglier Brits like you back across the pond!

 ::asskicking::

Here's hoping the landing hurts like a sonofabitch!   ::beertoast::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 17, 2015, 07:54:42 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/gop-debate-post-mortem-trump-top-fiorina-flourish-carson-crumbles (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/gop-debate-post-mortem-trump-top-fiorina-flourish-carson-crumbles)

Main take away - love that civility chart, I guess Trump or Cruz are the only options if you favor full-frontal honesty.

If I play in this rigged game anymore that is...

ETA - Oh, and I bet the timing of the IRS coming down on this group (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_TRUMP_FOREIGN_POLICY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-16-17-32-17) is merely a coincidence.

Freedumb and Libtardy, only in Amurikah, eff yaa!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 21, 2015, 11:22:50 AM
 ::facepalm::

http://iotwreport.com/graham-calls-on-carson-apologize-to-american-muslims/ (http://iotwreport.com/graham-calls-on-carson-apologize-to-american-muslims/)

This asshole isn't fit to be elected to anything except Village Idiot!

 ::pullhair::

 ::asskicking::

***Palette cleanser:

Regardless if you like Trump or not you have to respect his refusal to play the MFM's game and the e-GOP's game...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/20/donald-trump-grilled-on-obama-muslims-it-wasnt-people-from-sweden-that-blew-up-the-world-trade-center/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/20/donald-trump-grilled-on-obama-muslims-it-wasnt-people-from-sweden-that-blew-up-the-world-trade-center/)

“I mean, it wasn’t people from Sweden that blew up the World Trade Center, Jake.”

Duuuuh, Jake?  You stoopit or what?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on September 21, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Walker is out for 2016.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2015, 07:40:15 AM
Yeah, I caught that.  Too bad, good man.  Didn't get any traction and the media hyped Jeb-Donald fight didn't help...and worse yet not enough donors to stay alive.  The nation's loss is Wisconsin's gain, hope he continues to kick ass in my companion home state.  ::thumbsup::

ETA: Carson Update - Gets a Koran from the assclowns at CAIR...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/234924-cair-gives-ben-carson-a-copy-of-the-koran-to-dispel-any-misconceptions-about-islam/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/234924-cair-gives-ben-carson-a-copy-of-the-koran-to-dispel-any-misconceptions-about-islam/)

...I would have fired a note right back...

"Thanks for the toilet paper."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2015, 11:17:25 AM
Anyway...the fix is in.

The establishment jackals running the GOP have gamed things so that it is harder for outsiders to shake things up, and even if the overcome those hurdles, they will throw their entire weight behind supporting a Democrat if that's what it takes to keep an outsider out. (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/19/defeating-the-gope-road-map-a-message-to-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz-supporters/)

But remember, these e-GOP minions are not traitors...you people supporting these rogues are the traitors.

Got it?

Yeah, I know you do!

LIB!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on September 22, 2015, 04:00:49 PM
Quote
..I would have fired a note right back...

"Thanks for the toilet paper."

Bacon wrappers
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 22, 2015, 07:30:16 PM
Walker is out for 2016.

Most unfortunate all around.

Walker was my guy. Every bit as conservative as any, but more level-headed (or so I thought). I looked to him to gently rise through the ranks as the fascination with Trump wore out but instead he did little and got lost in the ranks.

But that doesn't explain his boorish and snide comments about Trump on his way out the door. That was unnecessary and small.

It's unusual for me to be out of candidates so early in the game but here we are. This will likely be the first election that I've been able to vote but sat it out - and probably the last election I'll ever both with again.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2015, 08:07:01 AM
Yeah, I might be writing in "Lizard People", wtf difference does it make?


In other news...once again the Progressive Left tries to jump-start the War on Wymenz sh*t...by attacking a woman not in the Prog Kamp...

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/09/21/gloria-steinem-eviscerates-carly-fiorina-with-scathing-post-on-facebook/ (http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/09/21/gloria-steinem-eviscerates-carly-fiorina-with-scathing-post-on-facebook/)

Point of order - How come good people are dying at yet vicious she-Devils like Steinem are still breathing...and worse, still spewing their hate?

I wish Carly would call her out, make that hideous scrunt face her in person...and then beat the effing tar out of that hag!

See, I am for equal responsibility and equal rights, I think two gals should be able to man up and take whacks at one another and let the best woman win.

 :D

I got a c-note on Carly.

I'm certain Gloria would applaud these Three Succubi of the Baby Holocaust (http://news.yahoo.com/shoutyourabortion-campaign-explodes-social-media-222022186.html) for promoting the joys of Planned Parenthood abortions...in the words of one demon "it was a great experience" and it is "not ashamed" and it is "not sorry" for slaughtering her baby.  Awesome, Tweet that crap and post it on your Facedbook page...and remember those words when you depart this world. 

I like that "I'm sure the babies would love to participate in the #ShoutYourAbortion campaign, but they've been murdered and sold for parts." pushback quote.

I guess it's too bad the mothers of these fools like Gloria et al were too filled with goodness to whack such undeserving life, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on September 23, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
Three Succubi of the Baby Holocaust[/url] for promoting the joys of Planned Parenthood abortions...in the words of one demon "it was a great experience" and it is "not ashamed" and it is "not sorry" for slaughtering her baby.  Awesome, Tweet that crap and post it on your Facedbook page...and remember those words when you depart this world. 

Maybe it won't take that long. Sometimes people get a conscience when they get older. Sometimes....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2015, 07:48:35 AM
Three Succubi of the Baby Holocaust[/url] for promoting the joys of Planned Parenthood abortions...in the words of one demon "it was a great experience" and it is "not ashamed" and it is "not sorry" for slaughtering her baby.  Awesome, Tweet that crap and post it on your Facedbook page...and remember those words when you depart this world. 

Maybe it won't take that long. Sometimes people get a conscience when they get older. Sometimes....

I'd like to help them, I'm a good guy like that.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2015, 07:53:32 AM
I guess the question comes down to: Do these morons who viciously attack Trump know this backfires or don't they?

South Park episode rapes and murders Trump (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247124/Controversial-South-Park-episode-shows-Donald-Trump-raped-murdered.html), I'm still waiting for the to rape and murder Obama...guess that is silly, eh?  At least they could dig up 'ol Ted and rape him and toss him off a bridge in Massachusettes for fun, right?

And another FauxNews clown on the Smegyn show talks about Trump's "balls" being cut off (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/trump-goes-off-blasts-rich-lowry-after-conservative-pundit-talks-about-his-balls-on-kelly-file/).  Class.  I don't recall anybody asking if Obama even as any?

ETA - Trump says he is done going on Fox.  People with sense should end all E-Media contact, with the internet you can stream/post your own footage, screw the puppetmasters!

Levin says the E-Media is using Fiorina to take down Trump, Trump as a front runner has got to go, he is too upsetting for the establishment cart, and Jeb Bush with all his money and name is sinking faster than the Titanic, and nobody else the establishment likes is polling worth a damn. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/conservative-radio-host-mark-levin-establishment-media-wants-to-take-down-trump-prop-up-carly-audio/)  And he is right.  They'll deal with a Cruz or whoever later, right now Trump is scaring the scat out of establishment rodents.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on September 24, 2015, 09:19:08 AM
........right now Trump is scaring the scat out of establishment rodents.

And I'm enjoying way more than I should.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 24, 2015, 09:51:25 AM


South Park episode rapes and murders Trump (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247124/Controversial-South-Park-episode-shows-Donald-Trump-raped-murdered.html),

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As one Canadian explains in a clear dig at Trump's rise to prominence in the polls this summer: 'There were several candidates during the Canadian elections. One of them was this brash a****** who just spoke his mind.

'He didn’t really offer any solutions, he just said outrageous things. We thought it was funny. Nobody really thought he’d ever be president. It was a joke! But we just let the joke go on for too long.

'He kept gaining momentum, and by the time we were ready to say, "OK, let’s get serious now, who should really be president?" he was already being sworn into office.

'We weren’t paying attention… We weren’t paying attention!'

I am still convinced that this is how TPTB are selecting the GOP candidate for us this year.  The eGOP might not be pleased, but I am sure the Democrats are.  Trump is an old buddy, fully invested in the Status Quo,  and he won't wander off the reservation if elected.  The Two "Stump for Trump" women were on infowars the other day - telling Democrats to switch parties and go vote in the Republican midterms ( for Trump of course)  - Sound Familiar? yes, the Demos do it every primary - which is why we had Romney and McCain instead of people we actually would want to vote for.  Trump is and always has been a joke. Its gone on long enough, but Reality TV addicted America has a fever and the only cure is more TRUMP.   There is NO DIFFERENCE at all between this man and Hillary.  He will not shake anything up once in office. He will just funnel a greater share of national wealth and more importantly ( and the reason he is in it )  more of the American attention to himself.  He will not repeal  or suspend Obamacare ( apparently Presidents can suspend laws now)  He will not fix the monetary crisis.  He will "stop illegal immigration" by simply making it explicitly  legal just as Obama has done defacto. There is no way I am voting for a a Fascist, Crony-capitalist, Oligarchical Democrat, and that includes Trump.  Rape and murder is too good for him. 


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2015, 11:29:04 AM
I think there are areas where Trump would be different from either Hillary or an E-GOP stooge...and there would be areas where there would be very little difference.

I see Trump much like I saw Ventura in MN when he took the Governorship.  Mixed bag.

But, for the sake of making a larger point...lets assume everything Weisshaupt said is 100% true, my question would be: So what?  Doesn't the E-GOP deserve this?  Rational Americans like us had gone without a POTUS who was one of us since we were born!  And we've gone without one like us ever since Reagan left.  And every damn time a non-establishment person comes along, they get crucified by the GOP and the media.

If you ask me, these fothermuckers got it coming.  The GOP has to die, any and all means to effect that is my only motivation to pay any attention.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 24, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
I think there are areas where Trump would be different from either Hillary or an E-GOP stooge...and there would be areas where there would be very little difference.

Well, the areas that would be different are the areas in which Trump's self interest and Hillary's self interest would diverge. Trump may be marginally better in that I don't think he has a political philosophy- being so entire focused on his own ego.  However, I think that makes him far easier to manipulate- and the people who will have the most sway with that sort of manipulation will be rich Democrats - you know , the crowd he runs and hangs out with. Fights with the eGOP just ensure that they will have even less input when the time comes, and it goes without saying tat Trump could care less about the people who elected him ( as long as he has their attention) Seriously, we have been watching this guy on reality tv and on the news for years now. I think its pretty obvious what things drive him to do what he does, and I doubt it is love of country, principles, or our founders.

Point is, we need a solution - and Trump isn't it. There probably isn't a candidate who could solve it at this point, but there is no point in getting your hopes up on Trump.  Its a foregone conclusion he will simply maintain the rigged game he knows how to play well. I think its also pretty obvious that t a lot of Trumps base are disaffected Democrats and the Democrats are fine with them running under the GOP banner instead of their own. 


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 24, 2015, 02:14:45 PM
My litmus test for success, at this point, is not winning the White House but in dealing damage to the GOP as a party.  It needs to be put down, it needs to be forced out of the way of whatever will replace it.  Since it refuses to die with dignity, I say it's time to just put a bullet behind its ear and dump it in a ditch somewhere.

Many people in the country are feeling a sense of genuine outrage at the way things have gone, and they've been trying (without success) to channel their outrage into electoral politics.  The reason it has been without success is because of the GOP, full stop.  That energy has been wasted on the GOP, by design.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 24, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
In releated news

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WELL, NOW WE KNOW WHERE TRUMP STANDS ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT: “And if the tweets don’t work, he’ll threaten to sue critics or stick the FCC on them for daring to criticize him on TV,” Betsy Newmark writes in the midst of a lengthy roundup of the day’s events. “Just the temperament we want in a president. Rich Lowry said that Carly Fiorina ‘cut [Trump’s] balls off with the precision of a surgeon’ and then tweeted that Fox News owes him an apology for using ‘such foul language on TV’ and the FCC should fine him for saying ‘balls’ on TV. And this is the guy whose big appeal is that he doesn’t try to be all politically correct. Lowry ridicules Trump’s thin skin….How typical that Donald Trump wants to and thinks it’s possible to censor political speech on cable TV. Just more proof that he’s a true liberal pretending to be a conservative.”

Related: Trump turns to the government for help — again.
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Posted at 5:12 pm by Ed Driscoll
via instapundit.
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/215152/ (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/215152/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
Wow, the hypocrisy runneth every direction!

If it is fair game to beat Trump up for being "thin-skinned" and a closet fascist for wanting to sic the FCC on someone on the one hand from people who cover the asses of their thin-skinned DemoProgs on legitimate criticisms of leadership, character and decision making that gets twisted by these MFMers as a "personal attack" when it isn't and these same people have no problem when DemoProgs sic the IRS or EPA or whoever government goon on political enemies is OK...then why isn't the reverse allowed?  Oh, well we know why it isn't allowed.  How is someone talking about cutting someones genitals off somehow unworthy of condemnation?

I find all the participants on the periphery of this little spat to be petty, ignorant and useless.  This should only be between Lowry and Trump, but the knives are out for Trump from all quarters.  But this is no different than how Carly was treated earlier by the E-GOP or the DemoProg Political/Media cabal, same for Cruz, Palin...

Once again I long for some old fashioned code of honor...Lowry and Trump should engage in a duel, or the challenged party can slink away a yellow dog coward and wear that brand the rest of their pathetic life.

Man, I was born centuries too late!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 25, 2015, 08:39:24 AM
Wow, the hypocrisy runneth every direction!

There is no news. There is only the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.
 
None of it is real, and none of the playing characters is worthy of being taken seriously. Not worth getting upset over how one puppet is treated over another. The truth of the signal is that personal slights, feuds and revenge make good entertainment and push the desired narrative, whereas debates over actual policy, facts and possible courses of action do not.
 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2015, 09:33:31 AM
Wow, the hypocrisy runneth every direction!

There is no news. There is only the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.
 
None of it is real, and none of the playing characters is worthy of being taken seriously. Not worth getting upset over how one puppet is treated over another. The truth of the signal is that personal slights, feuds and revenge make good entertainment and push the desired narrative, whereas debates over actual policy, facts and possible courses of action do not.

But I want to make it real...but only if dueling is allowed.   ::whoohoo::

But yeah...we're in agreement on the basics...

The illusion of a Republic is not the same as a real Republic...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/suggestion-box_zpsnbdoknal.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 25, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
It's all theater, true, but I still relish any chance to see that craven little worm Rich Lowry get bitchslapped.  As you recall, he was the one who made a big deal out of firing John Derbyshire and calling him a "racist" (gasp!) when Derbyshire wrote that "The Talk -- White Parents' Version" editorial.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2015, 11:32:33 AM
I agree, hence my dueling desire...you start piling up a bunch of Prog & Establishment carcasses about...people will shape up or STFU.   :D

You see this story?

Trump in drag?   ::whatgives::

http://iotwreport.com/fiorina-supported-the-individual-mandate-in-2013/ (http://iotwreport.com/fiorina-supported-the-individual-mandate-in-2013/)

Oops.

As in "sh*t! I thought that was scrubbed from history?!  WTF?!"

#WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on September 25, 2015, 08:21:22 PM
  The establishment doesn't want Trump and I hated Johnny Mac and they stuffed him down my throat and I want to shove Trump down theirs.

   They have pulled this sh*t on all of us for years and now we have a chance to stick it to them and I say it's time we got our turn.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on September 30, 2015, 04:09:53 PM
I am afraid that the establishment is B'rer rabbit and Trump is the briar patch. 

I continue to support Cruz. Two guys I thought were good got NO traction at all, (Walker and Perry) as second and third choices.  That leaves the pool considerably smaller for anyone I could consider at all. I do not even know how to number the remaining candidates but. Kasich, Bush, Pataki, Graham, Christie and Paul are all Thirds, in other words I will vote third party before I will support any of them, even against Hillary or Sanders. I might be able to swallow my fears and vote for Carson, Carly, Rubio, Jindal and Santorum under the right circumstances. But, I will say in the primary if it was down to Bush or Trump, I would vote for Trump, but I'd be holding my nose with my left hand.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on September 30, 2015, 04:54:13 PM
I always find these confessionals interesting.

I mean no offense ChrstnHsbandFther.

I could respond to anyone's the same.

What I find interesting in these things is the rationale each of us makes.
(Me too)

I will, almost assuredly, be voting third party.

I really wanted to consider Cruz but...

He's not a natural born citizen
His wife is very big in Goldman Saks
Voted for the Patriot Act
Voted for raising the debt ceiling
Voted for NDAA and Freedom Act
Voted for the trade bill.

His actions don't match his words.

Perry wanted to force little girls to get vaccines that would give them ovarian cancer (among other things)

I thought Paul (a long time ago) was a pragmatic chip off the old block and would be a Constitutionalist.
Instead he's just an idiot.

Fiorina-I posted a long article in the Fiorina thread.

Santorum is a neo-con fascist.

Carson is soft on illegals and 2A and Sharpton.

Rubio is a neo-con who will give amnesty

I'm not a Trump-ette but some things make sense to me.
His new tax thing is better than most.
Even though I am a Fair Tax guy, Trump is offering a pro-growth plan.
Anybody remember Reaganomics?

Immigration? Anybody else close to him?

He concealed carries.

He's so rich he doesn't need to be bought off.
Doesn't need the money.

As an outsider, he isn't beholden to anyone.
And he's not taking anyone's crap.

At least he's putting ideas out there.
What is anyone else doing?

There are things that I am concerned about with him and they are, maybe, some of the same things some of you may bring up
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2015, 07:04:42 PM
I still have Lizard People, Deez Nuts and SMOD...plenty of choices left.   ;D

Y'all see this?

“The Democrat Party, of course, is the party of the KKK. Of Jim Crow laws. And perhaps just as bad right now, of servitude. ‘Now you do this, and we’ll take care of you, pat you on the head, take care of all your needs.’ Which keeps people believing that’s what they actually need,” Mr. Carson told the small group.

Yup.  And the Progs jump on him for speaking the truth.  Up is down...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2015, 12:17:24 PM
What a clueless yutz...

Jeb Bush sees himself as 2016's version of John McCain (http://www.weaselzippers.us/235666-jeb-bush-think-of-me-as-the-john-mccain-of-the-2016-presidential-race/)...and I do not question the comparison...just not for the reasons this clueless fool thinks!

 ::laughonfloor::

What an imbecile!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
Yeah, that's the ticket.  Compare yourself to one of the previous LOSERS.  Yutz.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 01, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
  He's the smart one!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2015, 09:10:52 AM
OMG, more stupid!

Marco "Gilipollas" Rubio can't find one immigration enforcement bill to his liking (http://iotwreport.com/rubio-fails-to-support-single-gop-immigration-enforcement-bill/).

Yooooooouuuuu're OUT!   ::asskicking::


Palette cleanser - Carson - Take away CAIR's tax exempt status! (http://iotwreport.com/ben-carson-take-away-cairs-tax-exempt-status/)

And I got a few thousand more or so to add to that list!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2015, 08:05:03 AM
If the sorry state of latter day America's democracy where choices are restricted to bad and worse isn't bad enough, if the active meddling of Prog-fested media and constant leftist propaganda and manipulation isn't bad enough...we can always count on the ever declining intelligence of the average American to help shove us down the sewer drain...

Shelley Brannon, 62, can sum up the Obama presidency with three words. Well, three words and an exclamation.  “He screwed us,” said Brannon, a coal miner from Wise County, Va., as he sat outside a rally for the United Mine Workers of America. “Man, he screwed us.”
He shook his head under a camouflage hat that matched his camouflage UMWA T-shirt, and he described his fantasy of dumping nuclear waste in the yards of environmentalists, “if they think coal’s so bad.” He mulled over the mistake UMWA had made in 2008, when it endorsed Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton. Then he explained why he would probably be voting for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the next Democratic primary. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-rural-america-a-startling-prospect-voters-obama-lost-look-to-sanders/2015/10/04/5465ce22-6883-11e5-8325-a42b5a459b1e_story.html)

Yup, pissing on one Prog and embracing another who will also send you industry and your job into the tar pits is about as bright as it gets, eh?  But hey, "union proud, f**k yeah!".

 ::upsidedownflag::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on October 05, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Yea...They will never think the democratic party has been screwing them for decades.....NO, Obama screwed them.....and Hillary will fix it. You simply cannot fix stupid.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2015, 07:07:43 AM
You are correct.  You can only outlaw it, sterilize it or terminate it, and so far nobody is willing to step up to do anything about it . 

Thus our current predicament....which will end only when things have hit the fan hard enough.

Unsustainable and unavoidable...the PONR was breached long ago to fix it.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Idiocracy came into existence long before this, but...pretty good example here...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/236155-dem-senate-candidate-being-called-a-tool-is-a-good-thing/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/236155-dem-senate-candidate-being-called-a-tool-is-a-good-thing/)

 ::hysterical::

A true tool! 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 07, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
Here's an exercise for students, highlight the parts of his quote that don't go together:


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“To be a tool at Princeton most often means that you’re a participant in student government, are an uber-preppy dresser and are going to make a ton of money after college. All of which suggests you’re doing alright for yourself.”

The English major directed the “sweet, naïve” freshmen to thank individuals who dubbed them with the slang word.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 07, 2015, 02:16:34 PM
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“It’s … probable that you will be called a ‘tool.’ You may even be dubbed a ‘massive tool,’ or, for the truly elect, a ‘power tool,’” Sittenfeld, then a junior, advised incoming freshmen.

“To be a tool at Princeton most often means that you’re a participant in student government, are an uber-preppy dresser and are going to make a ton of money after college. All of which suggests you’re doing alright for yourself.”

I dang-near busted my gaydar unit....again ;')
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 12, 2015, 08:25:21 AM
Black Guy who "never voted before, then voted for Obama twice" now voting for Trump  (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/video-black-supporter-goes-off-at-trump-rally-obama-has-failed-us-were-taking-back-america/) because Obama duped him.

So yeah. Headline here is "Trump captures low information, ignorant voters" - who are largely Democrat.  He is, without a doubt in my mind,  a stooge sent in by the Democrats to capture the GOP nomination, again ensuring that the unbroken line of puppet presidents (HW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, Obama)  is not borken and the TPTB retain control.  Trump is not some sort of loose cannon.. he is one of them, doing a job for them because he was the one most suited to appeal to the Reality TV portion of America.   He will not protect you civil liberties, and thinks that using eminient domina to take you house for one of his projects is a great idea.  He will not stop NSA spying, the Supreme Court's anti-constitutional nonsense, nor the wild spending.  He will not put an end to the rampant corruption or cronyism-- that is the game he plays and plays well.  He personally won't take the PC crap,  and it MIGHT but a dent in that a while as it emboldens others to stand up to it,  but then he probably won't stick his neck out to help other who do.

Bill Whittle's take is below, and I agree we could do worse.  But that doesn't mean any solutions will be coming from this quarter. In fact it guarantees they won't.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RW4R3N8Ju8#)

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No one is going to go out and get that easily swayed middle, who passionately believes in things they no nothing about, unless they can do two things. 1.Speak the language of the pop culture  2. Come out with enough Media Savvy to actually hold people's interest

Of course I am not sure that even trump is capable of holding their interest till next November, nor that the SHTF won't happen before then.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2015, 10:07:34 AM
As long as I can tinkle on the eGOP the rest doesn't matter...and it will pass the time until the SHTF...which is merely a matter of when not if...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2015, 12:07:58 PM
Heh!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/236579-dnc-officer-disinvited-from-debate-after-calling-for-more-of-them/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/236579-dnc-officer-disinvited-from-debate-after-calling-for-more-of-them/)

Because everybody should know that the last thing democrats want is democracy!

 ::hysterical::

Well, cat's out of the bag now!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2015, 11:20:39 AM
(http://iotwreportcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/jeb-bush-nostril-.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/will-jeb-drop-out/ (http://iotwreport.com/will-jeb-drop-out/)

No great loss...we would still have plenty of eGOPer's left to ridicule.

 ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2015, 07:36:12 AM
Good God, what a joke...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-establishment-readies-for-war-against-donald-trump/article/2574454 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-establishment-readies-for-war-against-donald-trump/article/2574454)

eGOP plans "massive resistance" if Trump continues to roll...they even have the gall to say he is not conservative...well, ain't that a hoot, a bunch of not conservatives calling somebody else not a conservative!  The irony here is thick as grease!  And they say one of the outfits likely to bring Trump down is the nefarious Club for Growth, which is nothing but a bundling racket for eGOP stooges who are 100% for illegals as a means of cheap labor!

And the eGOP is down to Rubio being the establishments "best hope" (http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan.html) of unseating Trump!

 ::hysterical::

Now that is effing desperate!  The has-been/never-was's like Jeb et al already written off...and they'd sooner jump into a flaming pit than accept Cruz....

Man, this is hilarious.

Meanwhile, over at Moonbat Central...Webb is considering an independent run (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jim-webb-to-consider-independent-presidential-bid/), mostly because Democrats don't play fair either.

Poor fella, must be new to politics...

And closing with some more comic relief...we have talking about impeaching Clinton if she wins the White House (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/257392-gop-lawmaker-floats-impeachment-for-clinton), when in 7 years of Obama lawlessness they've done NOTHING remotely approaching that POS...so, color me skeptical as heck!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on October 20, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/10/19/report-george-w-bush-says-ted-cruz-hijacked-the-gop-admits-he-would-be-formidable-competition-to-jeb/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/10/19/report-george-w-bush-says-ted-cruz-hijacked-the-gop-admits-he-would-be-formidable-competition-to-jeb/)

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Bush said “I just don’t like the guy.”

If only you had such harsh words for the actual enemies in America.   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on October 20, 2015, 09:11:12 AM
Know I've been gone awhile and don't know if this has been posted before, but this AM Fox has been reporting Biden is close to running and may announce today.
Heard a talking head weeks ago with this take if he did;  If he wins election, nominates Obummer as 'his' VP, then shortly after resigns or dies, and Obummer moves back up. 
I know it's far fetched, but not totally out of the possibility.  All this according to the talking head is because of Obummer's total dislike for the Clintons, and his 'handlers' feel this is a way to get him back in office legally. [Coarse legality has never been a concern of theirs].
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2015, 11:11:09 AM
If he wants to shred what little is left of the Constitution why wait?  He should just deem the election over and declare himself as permanent ruler and be done with it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2015, 11:29:42 AM
Mr Shoe Size IQ shows off his stuff again...tries to defend W's rep and call's Trump's truthful statement "that it happened on his watch" as "pathetic"...when the record shows 12 of the 9/11 Islaminals obtained Florida drivers licenses with ease.

“Despite evidence that his brother’s White House was warned of imminent al Qaeda terrorist plots before 9/11, the candidate doubled down, tweeting a photo of his brother at Ground Zero at the World Trade Center in New York with the caption: ‘He kept us safe.’ The move drew criticism from families of some of the victims of the attacks,” IBT reported.

The report continued:

While Jeb Bush has called Trump’s criticism “pathetic,” the immigration policies of Bush’s gubernatorial administration were under the microscope in 2001 when law enforcement officials acknowledged that Florida had issued driver’s licenses or state identification cards to 12 of the hijackers, all of whom had come to the United States on visas. The St. Petersburg Times reported that at the time of the attack there was a warrant in Florida to apprehend one of the lead hijackers, Mohammed Atta, but “the warrant for Atta’s arrest was ignored.” A national conservative organization pushing tougher immigration laws soon criticized Bush for his unwillingness to support what the group said was legislation necessary to stop terrorism.

According to the IBT, Bush’s campaign didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Yeah, I'd STFD & STFU too if I just showed everyone what a duplicitous establishment f**kweasel I am!

And din't we see somewhere one of the criteria for Prog Bullies is doubling-down on lies?

Yeah, fits doesn't it?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 23, 2015, 11:49:48 AM
I hear chatter all the time about how horrible Trump is doing, he's tanking...blah, blah, blah...all not so unsurprising given both camp's establishment goons want him to fail no matter what...the Progs because they know in a general election against him their nominee whoever the hell it is...Clinton or Sanders...Trump would not be beholden to the honoring the same stupid self-handcuffing rules Pubbies always bend a knee to and the Pubbies because they'd rather die screaming in flames than see anybody but a e-GOP puppet get their nomination...

But if either is seeing poll data coming out of Iowa as a good thing -

Favor:
Carson 28
Trump 19
Cruz 10
Rubio 9
Bush 5
Rand 5
Fiorina 4
Huckabee 3
Jindal 2
Kasich 2
Santoroum 2
Christie 1

Never:
Graham 63
Pataki 63
Gilmore 59
Christie 48
Kasich 45
Rand 45
Jeb! 40
Santroum 38
Trump 34
Huckabee 31
Jindal 29
Cruz 27
Fiorina 23
Rubio 20
Carson 10

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/des-moines-register-poll-ben-carson-leads-big-donald-trump/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/des-moines-register-poll-ben-carson-leads-big-donald-trump/)

..then they are crazy!

In the "favor" list you have to go 4 spots down to get a soft establishment type and to 5th for a hard establishment clown.

In the "never" list 10 out of the first 11 are establishment types.

And the winner of Iowa rarely sews up the nomination...often time it marks the high water mark of the candidate who won it.
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If any of this matters to you...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
Will Rubio be excoriated for being a "quiter" like Palin was?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/237782-marco-rubio-giving-up-on-the-senate-he-hates-it/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/237782-marco-rubio-giving-up-on-the-senate-he-hates-it/)

IMO quiting without the formality and doing so when nobody is trying to bankrupt you and your family or stalking your family like they are rabid man-killing beasts looks way more worse than what Palin did...but, he's a guy and a hispanic...so probably won't be any of that talk...

Don't care if the door hits him though...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 26, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Quote
“That’s why I’m missing votes. Because I am leaving the Senate. I am not running for reelection,” Rubio said ...

In the meantime, he's getting *paid* to be there in the Senate and represent his constituents, not to run for President.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2015, 08:07:56 AM
Quote
“That’s why I’m missing votes. Because I am leaving the Senate. I am not running for reelection,” Rubio said ...

In the meantime, he's getting *paid* to be there in the Senate and represent his constituents, not to run for President.

See, it's that kind of right-wing extremist attitude and stubborn adherence to principles that so enrages the eGOP who see the Big Picture oh so much more clearly than you!

Please, continue!

 ::cool::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2015, 08:19:39 AM
Anybody watch these stupid debates?  I have not, I have better things to do...like clean my garage, clean the cats litter box, take the lint out of the dryer trap...

But I guess there were some fireworks directed at the Progs running the thing and at eGOP officials at the RNC, etc...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nb-staff/2015/10/28/bozell-cnbc-debates-was-encyclopedic-example-liberal-media-bias (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nb-staff/2015/10/28/bozell-cnbc-debates-was-encyclopedic-example-liberal-media-bias)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/republican-debate-media/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/republican-debate-media/index.html)

...sounds like Cruz nailed 'em best...

But seriously, who but a fool thinks these things go any other way?  The eGOP long ago sold their souls and play by Prog rules that have been tilted far-left for decades, and they are just getting more bold about it because even when people (like again now) piss and moan about it NOTHING CHANGES!  Anybody thinking the MFM is going to change is seriously effed up in the head.  Anybody thinking the eGOP and it's stooges running the RNC or the eGOP handlers like The Butthead they employ are going to do sh*t about it are also seriously effed up in the head.  THIS IS WHO ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE!

I quit barking, I've been barking for the past three decades to people to shove these rules up their butts!  Boycott the MFM, go back to old style in-person barnstorming campaigns and Lincoln-Douglas style open public debates...now in the fricken digital age it should be even easier...

But they keep tying their arms behind their backs and now when their legs are also hog-tied they get bitchie...and still DO NOTHING?  And I am supposed to GAFF?!

 ::mooning::

And their main problem is right in their own home...

They obey the eGOP...they can die with them too.




ETA - Humor break: Romney admits he likes to stomp on his own genitals... (http://iotwreport.com/romney-praises-lindsey-grahams-debate-performance/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on November 01, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Quote
“That’s why I’m missing votes. Because I am leaving the Senate. I am not running for reelection,” Rubio said ...

In the meantime, he's getting *paid* to be there in the Senate and represent his constituents, not to run for President.

 Isn't Rand doing the same thing?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on November 02, 2015, 06:17:03 AM
When the GOPe through the VA gov race you had to know they didn't give a sh*t about which way the country was heading. The entire crew heading the part should be set in easy range of an infantry rifle squad. ::laserkill::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2015, 08:09:50 AM
Should have E-GOP farms...like those Pheasant farms, ya know?

OK, release 'em.

Oh, there's one!

 ::rockets::

 ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on November 02, 2015, 04:45:50 PM
Should have E-GOP farms...like those Pheasant farms, ya know?

OK, release 'em.

Oh, there's one!

 ::rockets::

 ;D
If only.....Dare to dream!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2015, 07:51:23 AM
Should have E-GOP farms...like those Pheasant farms, ya know?

OK, release 'em.

Oh, there's one!

 ::rockets::

 ;D
If only.....Dare to dream!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Misc/dnt9vuormyxnochc6kuo_zpsd2fnowyb.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2015, 11:29:04 AM
Yeah, bleep this a-hole (http://iotwreport.com/take-a-hike-ben/)!

 ::asskicking::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 03, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
I'm sure the candidates and their staffs are quite capable of making suitable debate arrangements all by their  lonesomes without Ginsberg inserting himself.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on November 03, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
I'm sure the candidates and their staffs are quite capable of making suitable debate arrangements all by their  lonesomes without Ginsberg inserting himself.

The eGOP don't care. Only their worries matter.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2015, 11:54:11 AM
And remember, outside of Trump and probably Cruz...none of these candidates will survive a match with the Hildabeast...

If she and her surrogates can do this...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/238508-hillalry-clinron-plays-the-race-card-on-fellow-white-liberal-bernie-sanders/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/238508-hillalry-clinron-plays-the-race-card-on-fellow-white-liberal-bernie-sanders/)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/238545-clinton-supporter-dem-sen-tom-harkin-blasts-bernie-sanders-as-establishment-candidate/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/238545-clinton-supporter-dem-sen-tom-harkin-blasts-bernie-sanders-as-establishment-candidate/)

...to one of their own...

...what the heck you think is awaiting anybody coming up next?

And all this will being proven time and time again she is the most vile, corrupt, untruthful and thoroughly despicable creature in politics today...excepting his Unholiness the SCoaMF.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on November 04, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
And she's still quite a possibility to be elected
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2015, 07:26:49 AM
Yeah...LIV, other sundry idjits and the Uncle Jo Geobbels media...quite possible.

And if people see this as Bernie "taking the gloves off" (http://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-takes-gloves-off-against-hillary-clinton-in-interview-1446684586) then he and the WSJ have a totally different view of what that phrase means...

If you really want the gloves off...start saying stuff like: "Mrs. Clinton in her first (failed) run for President liked to say America needed someone 'Who could take that call at 3am'...well, as Secretary of State she took that 3am call from Benghazi and let Americans die, including our Ambassador!, so we know Mrs. Clinton is unfit for office given her own criteria!" and then maybe I'll concur the gloves "came off".

But I seriously doubt Bernie has those stones...

Heck, most if not all of the E-GOP candidates don't either!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2015, 11:51:18 AM
Latino terrorists use kids like Mohammad's death cultists...launch terror ads toward Donald Trump -

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/04/video-latino-kids-blast-donald-trump-fck-you-racist-fck/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/04/video-latino-kids-blast-donald-trump-fck-you-racist-fck/)

(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/11/Screen-Shot-2015-11-04-at-4.50.04-AM-640x455.png)

Sí, mantendrá sonriendo poco mierda ilegal!

Tick, tock...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 05, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
They all hate the evil white racist, yet they all want to live in the White Man's world.  They have all of Central and South America and have seldom turned out anything other than corrupt banana republics.  The White Man can live in Iceland, a small frigid island of glaciers and volcanoes with practically no arable land, and it's one of the most advanced countries in the world.

So sure you little sh*ts.  Come here.  Turn it into another part of "Latin America."  What next?  I hope they continue this campaign, because I don't think it's going to provoke the response they intend.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2015, 11:55:51 AM
The Carson story...a Nothingburger, or at least a Smallburger...

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598 (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598)

Not viscerally opposed or rapturously for Mr Carson...having said that...

Were the details wrong?  Sure.  But I could see someones memory and/or book editor changing a meeting where attendance was discussed and conflating it with being offered a ride, but since only the full rides are documented trying to prove something now is just a he-said/they-said...

In the giant scheme of things...pretty paltry...especially compared to deadly criminality of the Democrat frontrunner!

Seriously, until JurnoTards start hounding for blood there, they should be told to STFD and STFU.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on November 06, 2015, 12:32:32 PM
Gee, the little woman who enabled a rapist or the guy who turned, "they told me to apply and that they could get me in based on my qualifications" to "I was accepted"

 ::thinking::

Nope.  Still not the little woman who thinks rape is OK, if it's her husband doing the raping.

That being said, I'm still for Cruz.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on November 06, 2015, 12:55:13 PM
Democrats lie.
It's a given

Carson is really a Dem.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2015, 01:26:46 PM
It's starting to sound more and more like a typical leftist hit job...Carson is denying he admitted nothing being wrong, so I guess they took a small section of his book and twisted it and because he isn't guilty of saying what they said or that he denied what was said was wrong his denial of both gives the appearance of being wrong...the old prove a negative as well as the prove the negative you say is a lie is wrong...

 ::cussing::  MFM!

People ought to take torches to the lot of 'em...

Not Carson fan or foe, but it appears lynching the prog-labelled "Uncle Tom" is the sport du juor.

I cannot wait for stringing up all treasonous scum is sport du juor every damn day!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on November 06, 2015, 02:14:56 PM
I agree.
There's a lot bigger things with Carson whether he lied about attending West Point.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 07, 2015, 10:08:59 AM
Carson responding to the lie (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carson-blows-up-at-reporters-during-presser-why-dont-you-care-about-obamas-past/) and doing a decent job imo.  Note the head line : "Blows up"   because calling the media out on deliberately employing  double standards is a "blow up"
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 07, 2015, 11:18:28 AM
Yeah, they make a huge deal out of Carson not formally applying to West Point when all he said was that someone told him "you'd qualify for admission, we could get you in."  Meanwhile they have no curiosity whatsoever about Obama's university times, like "was he admitted as a foreign student?" or "what classes did he take, what were his grades?"  I mean, if the whole world was going to hear about W's C averages for the years of his presidency, why not all presidents?

The media are far and away the #1 enemy.  They are essentially Bolshevik commissars masquerading as journalists.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2015, 07:27:35 AM
I know how to deal with Bolsheviks.

"Lemme at 'em, lemme at 'em!"
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 10, 2015, 11:56:36 AM
More unravelling of the Media lynching of Carson -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/239053-yale-classmate-we-did-the-prank-test-that-ben-carsons-talking-about/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/239053-yale-classmate-we-did-the-prank-test-that-ben-carsons-talking-about/)

Some, however...still cannot shake themselves from their inbred racism and hatred -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/239058-lib-rag-time-ben-carsons-blackness-troubles-me/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/239058-lib-rag-time-ben-carsons-blackness-troubles-me/)

Must be this Uncle Tom for the Democrat Progressive Plantation (https://www.polisci.washington.edu/people/christopher-parker), just another self-appointed arbiter of authentic blackness coming from another guilty white-liberal dominated Ply-Sci department.  Assclowns like this know less about the color blind society desired by Martin Luther King on purpose because that whole "judging people by the content of their character thing" is just to repressive and restrictive for black folks who, if they are authentic in a Progressive sense, have to be allowed to misbehave and receive preferential treatment...all that "judgey" stuff is too religious in nature, too Old Dead White Guy in nature...and they don't want sh*t to do with that!  It would derail the entire effort to enslave and exploit the black masses!

This modern day Goebbels wrote one infamous screed after another demonizing the Tea Party and anybody associating with them...

Seriously, the "Tea Party" is like the "KKK"?  Who but a sick-headed hatemonger or a complete ignorant fool would buy such dreck?

It is pure garbage like this that will make dealing with idiots when the crap hits the fan oh so much easier to navigate.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on November 10, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
It's a matter of basic logistical assumption that anything that comes out of the mouths of progtards is something of little consequence and should be scoffed at. That said, I didn't need to read what was said to know he/she already stands on ground which is softer than quicksand so....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 11, 2015, 08:35:16 AM
I didn't bother following at all...but from what little I've read it sounds like Bush fell flat on his face...which seems an odd thing to say because I always thought that is what he does best...and Trump came under some attack but survived and Rubio seems to be benefitting from the fall of Bush and it seems it is between he and Fiorina to secure the Establishments blessing...and I guess Paul had a decent night...and I read Cavuto took a poke at ProgTard moderators.

Whatever.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on November 11, 2015, 04:24:46 PM
I heard Ben Carson turned in a VCR tape in the 90's and didn't re wind it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Magnum on November 11, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
 I am disappointed in Dr Carson he was not kind because he did not rewind. That's it for his campaign.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2015, 06:51:03 AM
He did what?!

 ::ohno::

See what happens when you play by enemy rules? 

If you were in the right tribe though there is nothing you couldn't away with...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/36551-Jerry%20Brown_zpszk7qmgty.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/Sharpton_Extort_We_Much_zpsbyggkurq.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/chappaquiddick.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/28575-ready_for_hillary_irony_c_zps1b32k9ke.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/unique-animated-gif-002.gif)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/09-10c.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2015, 07:10:02 AM
It doesn't matter how much of this story is fact, fiction or wag the dog (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/time-for-gop-panic-establishment-worried-carson-and-trump-might-win/2015/11/12/38ea88a6-895b-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html) since the bottom line is the E-GOP has to be clenching its chest, gasping for air and puking its guts out...the closest guy they have behind Trump, Carson & Cruz is Rubio...the rest have more than one fork sticking out of them...and while I don't doubt their kingmakers are in agony between throwing in with Rubio or risking a bloodbath by bringing in Romney late (the latter I think is an empty threat, seriously, unless the puppetmasters rig everything the guy who handily won that over-hyped "independent" vote in 2012 and still got his ass totally kicked by the SCoaMF can do little to rescue the hopes of the establishment masters!)...I am left feeling all Rhett Butler about it...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on November 13, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
Just read a little earlier that they're trying to get a Draft Romney movement going.

That is a sign of desperation and proves they really want to lose
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2015, 09:14:10 AM
Frankly, if the goal is to implode the GOP as an entity...I can think of no quicker way to do it than for outsiders and rebels like Trump and Cruz continuing to do well with people while the establishment goons are seen in the open trying to sabotage them every step of the way and have this thing so grotesquely rigged that people are so turned off that nobody bothers with any of them ever again.

But, sadly I am used to disappointment so I think a slow death crawl is more likely...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on November 16, 2015, 01:33:36 AM
http://www.headlinepolitics.com/ted-cruz-is-asked-a-question-by-an-anti-gun-reporter-his-response-is-legendary-video/ (http://www.headlinepolitics.com/ted-cruz-is-asked-a-question-by-an-anti-gun-reporter-his-response-is-legendary-video/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 16, 2015, 08:00:51 AM
http://www.headlinepolitics.com/ted-cruz-is-asked-a-question-by-an-anti-gun-reporter-his-response-is-legendary-video/ (http://www.headlinepolitics.com/ted-cruz-is-asked-a-question-by-an-anti-gun-reporter-his-response-is-legendary-video/)

A very polite and one hundred percent correct statement on Second Amendment rights...that will be completely lost on this Soros/Bloomberg funded MFM stooge and the legion of left-wing proto-fascists contaminating our soil.

The time for politeness is drawing to a rapid close.  The traitors may not heed our words or warnings, but one day soon they'll fully earn our wrath and regret leaving no other avenue for us to take.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 16, 2015, 09:18:50 AM
Another look at Ted Cruz ....

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/11/14/video-ted-cruz-acts-out-princess-bride-scene-completely-nails-it/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/11/14/video-ted-cruz-acts-out-princess-bride-scene-completely-nails-it/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on November 16, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
  Let it be HIM!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2015, 08:02:54 AM
http://iotwreport.com/trump-wants-cruz/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-wants-cruz/)

I think Cruz wants the top spot, pretty sure if that happened I doubt Trump would want #2, but if Trump wins out Cruz would make a heck of an insurance policy.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on November 18, 2015, 03:16:00 PM
Trump/ Cruz......

Cruz/ Trump....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 19, 2015, 11:37:39 AM
I think we found ourselves one of those rare Jeb voters...

http://iotwreport.com/if-you-believe-saba-ahmed-is-a-republican-you-might-believe-obama-is-a-christian/ (http://iotwreport.com/if-you-believe-saba-ahmed-is-a-republican-you-might-believe-obama-is-a-christian/)

...isn't its time for a genital re-mutlilation? 

Idiots...keep that crap off your shows!

Stupid Unfair & Unbalanced Fawx!   ::mooning::

Smegyn must like her taqqiya.   ::bus::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2015, 07:52:23 AM
The E-GOP Empire Strike Back!

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/gop-group-plans-most-aggressive-anti-trump-campaign-yet-216085 (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/gop-group-plans-most-aggressive-anti-trump-campaign-yet-216085)

For all the nervousness about Trump’s candidacy, however, few in the GOP have directed resources toward defeating him. Prominent Republican groups such as the Chamber of Commerce and the Karl Rove-founded American Crossroads, both establishment vehicles, have not spent any money against Trump. (In September and the beginning of October, the Club for Growth, an anti-tax group, spent $1 million to air a pair of TV commercials in Iowa that criticized the front-runner. The group has not done any since.)

Politico.   ::) 

Wankers!

The reason why those haven't done anything yet is because it is not yet their turn.

It's their typical chipping away tag-team schtick...but it can only work if the target caves in to it.

Somehow I think that is going to be harder this time around...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/beware_of_elephonkey_zpsgyyo6kzl.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2015, 08:24:25 AM
Interesting Palin takes on candidates...

http://iotwreport.com/palin-gives-impressions-of-the-presidential-candidates-in-quick-sound-bites/ (http://iotwreport.com/palin-gives-impressions-of-the-presidential-candidates-in-quick-sound-bites/)

Heh, clever, not easy to say good things about everybody...

"I liked his brother"   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on November 20, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
I don't think a group of retards from the Poli Sci department, running a few commercials, will stop Trump.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 24, 2015, 08:14:47 AM
Cruz appearing to get a recent surge...

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/24/ted-cruz-makes-a-big-leap-in-iowa-poll-says/ (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/24/ted-cruz-makes-a-big-leap-in-iowa-poll-says/)

..way too early yet though...

...I'm more interested into knowing what the E-GOP demons are up to...

But I gotta say, this Trump thumping of Hillary is quite enjoyable -

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261103-trump-video-shows-clinton-laughing-over-benghazi-flames (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261103-trump-video-shows-clinton-laughing-over-benghazi-flames)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 25, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
This is half-truth!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/plan-a-for-gop-donors-wait-for-trump-to-fall-there-is-no-plan-b/2015/11/25/91436a00-92dd-11e5-8aa0-5d0946560a97_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/plan-a-for-gop-donors-wait-for-trump-to-fall-there-is-no-plan-b/2015/11/25/91436a00-92dd-11e5-8aa0-5d0946560a97_story.html)

They'll use proxies and whatever cutouts they can to try to make Trump stumble...so far he is forging ahead, pretty much unimpeded by any would-be drive-by journalista assassination attempts or MFM meme'd verbal stumblings...

And to think the likes of The Butthead will meekly sit idle and let Trump gather all the delegates when the kabuki primary voting kicks in is smoking some kick ass weed!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Ted Cruz under assault in Iowa Me-Di-Uhh...

http://iotwreport.com/ted-cruz-campaign-demands-iowa-radio-stations-pull-false-attack-ads/ (http://iotwreport.com/ted-cruz-campaign-demands-iowa-radio-stations-pull-false-attack-ads/)

...the sulfuric odor of The Butthead cloaks these orchestrated attack ads...

Go for the testicles Ted, cut 'em off!
 
I like this kind of brutal honesty (http://www.weaselzippers.us/242857-ted-cruz-most-violent-criminals-are-democrats/)!   ::clapping::

And, speaking of lunatics 'losing it'...

Lindsey Grahamnesty calls Trump "a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot" (http://www.weaselzippers.us/242945-lindsey-graham-donald-trump-a-xenophobic-race-baiting-religious-bigot/).  Oh, telling big fat lies again, eh, Lindsey?  What you uttered is akin to somebody directing at you "Lindsey is an honest, pro-border enforcement Muslim-extremist combating principled Conservative".

 ::hysterical::

And in other hilariously stupid statements...Bill Kristol refers to himself as a "Conservative"! (http://www.weaselzippers.us/242977-conservatives-who-say-they-could-never-support-trump-as-nominee/)  Bwuuhahhaaaa!  What kind of cheese-eating surrender monkey nonsense is this?  The posterboy for E-GOP elite snobbery....a "Conservative"?!  What the heck is he "conserving"?  Cheap brown labor?  Cheap Big Govt?

What a pile of Obama!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 03, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
This...is just a bit cycnical...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/private-memo-lays-out-how-the-gop-would-deal-with-trump-as-its-nominee/2015/12/02/78514cba-9909-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/private-memo-lays-out-how-the-gop-would-deal-with-trump-as-its-nominee/2015/12/02/78514cba-9909-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html)

...but typical of the latter day establishment infested GOP.

Let's pretend to be people we are not, just to snooker some votes...and govern according to establishment dictate once elected.

Yeah, gosh...go for it.  I don't think people are really onto this scheme yet...it still have some play left in it.

 ::)

And, yes...it appears Glenn Beck is an establishment shill after all...

http://iotwreport.com/glenn-schmuck-has-a-theory/ (http://iotwreport.com/glenn-schmuck-has-a-theory/)

Glenn Schmuck.

Yup, works for me.

Cower in place, Glennie...find your safe zone.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 03, 2015, 09:48:39 AM
Beck jumped the shark long ago.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 03, 2015, 11:28:28 AM
No doubt.

Likes to remind folks often enough though, don't he?

 ::asskicking::
Deploy the Schmuck Expulsion System!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on December 03, 2015, 11:43:22 AM
I feel bad for Beck, even though his moments of hysteria and caricature are all of his own making.

I think he's someone who thinks and feels deeply. I relate to him in that way. He also has a keen mind that forever seeks to connect events. I share that with him also. (OK, I'll let others decide about the "keen mind" part, but I do have a mind that constantly seeks to make connections and extrapolations).

I believe he has a good and earnest heart; wants what's best. He sees events cascading out of control, and feels a duty to use his position in some way to prepaare people.

Thos are all qualities that would be utterly positive if he would channel them in the right direction. But he doesn't always do so. So I feel bad for him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on December 04, 2015, 05:27:48 AM
Beck jumped the shark long ago.
I don't think he was entirely successful. His ass must have been in range of those hungry jaws and so h lost some of those brains he thought he had.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on December 04, 2015, 06:22:05 AM
A few years ago, I watched, listened and read all things Glenn Beck.

Then he decided to think he was some kind of Ghandi or something.
Or some kind of ecumenical spiritual leader.

I heard others refer to him as a Judas goat.

I don't know but I see him as someone to diffuse anger.
Maybe they got to him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 04, 2015, 07:25:09 AM
A few years ago, I watched, listened and read all things Glenn Beck.

Then he decided to think he was some kind of Ghandi or something.
Or some kind of ecumenical spiritual leader.

I heard others refer to him as a Judas goat.

I don't know but I see him as someone to diffuse anger.
Maybe they got to him.

His/their problem, not mine/ours.

When you pick a side on something as momentous as freedom and liberty...half-assed won't cut it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 07, 2015, 12:13:13 PM
http://youtu.be/JILqebIRxC0 (http://youtu.be/JILqebIRxC0)

H/T - http://iotwreport.com/trump-exists-and-thrives-in-a-world-of-pussified-pols/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-exists-and-thrives-in-a-world-of-pussified-pols/)

Heh!

Plain talk.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 09, 2015, 11:53:29 AM
God Bless Mark Levin!

This is a friendly warning to Marco Rubio and his campaign donors, advisers, and consultants that they cannot wash away some of Rubio’s less than stellar legislative actions and related positions and pronouncements by embracing and unleashing Saul Alinsky-type tactics against Ted Cruz or other conservatives.  Such unprincipled ambition has not and will not go unnoticed by conservatives. (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/08/radio-host-mark-levin-warns-rubio-using-alinsky-type-tactics-gop-rivals/)

But if the E-GOP has one steadfast character trait it is being tone-deaf to any and all advice, no matter how honest, from any non-eGOP quarter.

So, prepare to inflict harm to eGOP genitals, OK?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on December 09, 2015, 07:26:15 PM
God Bless Mark Levin!

This is a friendly warning to Marco Rubio and his campaign donors, advisers, and consultants that they cannot wash away some of Rubio’s less than stellar legislative actions and related positions and pronouncements by embracing and unleashing Saul Alinsky-type tactics against Ted Cruz or other conservatives.  Such unprincipled ambition has not and will not go unnoticed by conservatives. (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/08/radio-host-mark-levin-warns-rubio-using-alinsky-type-tactics-gop-rivals/)

But if the E-GOP has one steadfast character trait it is being tone-deaf to any and all advice, no matter how honest, from any non-eGOP quarter.

So, prepare to inflict harm to eGOP genitals, OK?

   Rubio was dead to me long before Levin made this announcement lat night.  Whe he went rouge on immigration and started hanging out with Johnny Mac and his girl friend Lindsay.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 10, 2015, 08:02:29 AM
God Bless Mark Levin!

This is a friendly warning to Marco Rubio and his campaign donors, advisers, and consultants that they cannot wash away some of Rubio’s less than stellar legislative actions and related positions and pronouncements by embracing and unleashing Saul Alinsky-type tactics against Ted Cruz or other conservatives.  Such unprincipled ambition has not and will not go unnoticed by conservatives. (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/08/radio-host-mark-levin-warns-rubio-using-alinsky-type-tactics-gop-rivals/)

But if the E-GOP has one steadfast character trait it is being tone-deaf to any and all advice, no matter how honest, from any non-eGOP quarter.

So, prepare to inflict harm to eGOP genitals, OK?

   Rubio was dead to me long before Levin made this announcement lat night.  Whe he went rouge on immigration and started hanging out with Johnny Mac and his girl friend Lindsay.

Yeah, that is probably when most people broke off too...wasn't long after getting to the Senate IIRC.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 10, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
Self-appointed eGOP Thought Czar John Kasich threatens "independent run" (something all eGOPers chastised Trump for leaving open as an option) if he "doesn't change his rhetoric" about those poor "Moderate Muslims" like this loser (http://iotwreport.com/muslim-hospital-worker-in-ohio-calls-for-beheading-of-us-soldiers/) or building a wall to keep out garbage like this sick bastard (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13668.0)!

Yeah, STFD and STFU Johnny!  Talking out your ass and issuing empty threats is not going to convince anybody!

Go back to Ohio and FOAD.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on December 10, 2015, 04:07:54 PM
Self-appointed eGOP Thought Czar John Kasich threatens "independent run" (something all eGOPers chastised Trump for leaving open as an option) if he "doesn't change his rhetoric" about those poor "Moderate Muslims" like this loser (http://iotwreport.com/muslim-hospital-worker-in-ohio-calls-for-beheading-of-us-soldiers/) or building a wall to keep out garbage like this sick bastard (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13668.0)!

Yeah, STFD and STFU Johnny!  Talking out your ass and issuing empty threats is not going to convince anybody!

Go back to Ohio and FOAD.

I don't see him taking any votes from the gop,  what is he polling less then a percent?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2015, 12:54:15 PM
Self-appointed eGOP Thought Czar John Kasich threatens "independent run" (something all eGOPers chastised Trump for leaving open as an option) if he "doesn't change his rhetoric" about those poor "Moderate Muslims" like this loser (http://iotwreport.com/muslim-hospital-worker-in-ohio-calls-for-beheading-of-us-soldiers/) or building a wall to keep out garbage like this sick bastard (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13668.0)!

Yeah, STFD and STFU Johnny!  Talking out your ass and issuing empty threats is not going to convince anybody!

Go back to Ohio and FOAD.



I don't see him taking any votes from the gop,  what is he polling less then a percent?

Probably less than 1%, I know Rand is about to get dropped off the debates for lousy numbers.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 14, 2015, 12:45:14 PM
This is an interesting read.

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/12/10/the-american-reboot

I guess I wasn't aware Scott Walker turned E-GOP on the crazy muzzie issue, that's disappointing news.

Gessler's Hat, nice reference, perhaps our moment yields a new nation too, eh?

But as he notes at the end...when the PONR is hit your ability to make a choice is taken away from you.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 14, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
Quote
I guess I wasn't aware Scott Walker turned E-GOP on the crazy muzzie issue, that's disappointing news.

It isn't anything that surprises me.  I wasn't too interested in him anyway.

As for Fernandez, his columns usually are very interesting with a new one every day or two.  PJMedia changed its whole format, including commenting (to Disqus), and the close community of thoughtful and intelligent commenters (I usually learned something new) has been diluted now.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 14, 2015, 04:38:27 PM
Quote
I guess I wasn't aware Scott Walker turned E-GOP on the crazy muzzie issue, that's disappointing news.

It isn't anything that surprises me.  I wasn't too interested in him anyway.

As for Fernandez, his columns usually are very interesting with a new one every day or two.  PJMedia changed its whole format, including commenting (to Disqus), and the close community of thoughtful and intelligent commenters (I usually learned something new) has been diluted now.

Sounds like a bad commercial but...I thought Walker had common sense, but for certain things there must be a price (war chest contribution, pow wow seat) attached.  Still disappointing.

And Disqus pees in another pool....   ::gaah::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 15, 2015, 07:35:30 AM
Ah ha, the fog begins to clear.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/14/cruz-seeks-donations-walker/77315990/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/14/cruz-seeks-donations-walker/77315990/)

Good 'ol fashioned backscratchin'.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2015, 08:08:40 AM
Bernie Sanders - "If somebody is loading guns and ammunition into a house, I think it’s a good idea to call 911. Do it."

http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/)

What is more surprising is people who think all DemoProgs don't think this way...and don't care.

God-given rights cannot be taken away by any man.

It's stunning to think how ignorant people are, isn't it? 

Well, they'll learn...or die...makes no difference to me.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2015, 09:15:38 AM
This is pretty good!

Howard Kurtz: Again and again you said Hillary Clinton does not have the strength and the stamina to be president. You’re 69. She’s 68. Are you suggesting she’s frail?

Donald Trump: I’m suggesting she does not have the strength or the stamina. She goes out and she sees you guys for about ten minutes. She sees you for a little while. It’s all rehearsed and staged. They pick a couple of people out of the audience that are like 100% (supporters). She’ll sit around a little plastic table and talk to the people a little while. It’s ridiculous. And then she goes away for five or six days. You don’t see her. She goes to sleep.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/donald-trump-hillary-does-not-have-the-strength-or-stamina-to-be-president-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/donald-trump-hillary-does-not-have-the-strength-or-stamina-to-be-president-video/)

People are not supposed to talk about protected libiot operatives like this!  They are not used to dealing with frontal attacks!  Primarilly because since Reagan they just are not conducted by Pubbies....

Heh, I gotta say...I like it when people don't shrink from these a-holes! 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on December 21, 2015, 10:59:41 AM
Bernie Sanders - "If somebody is loading guns and ammunition into a house, I think it’s a good idea to call 911. Do it."

http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/)

What is more surprising is people who think all DemoProgs don't think this way...and don't care.

God-given rights cannot be taken away by any man.

It's stunning to think how ignorant people are, isn't it? 

Well, they'll learn...or die...makes no difference to me.


What a bunch of morons. First, if I see my neighbors weaponing up I ask what they have bought because I might want one. I actually feel safer. Btw, the Mossberg 500 we just purchased is sweet.
Next, the liberal mind.....Really? if you saw something you believe to be illegal, the first thought before you take action is are you profiling? Seriously? Not the safety of your family, your neighbors....

I also would not live next to muslims. Period. There, profile that. I would make damn sure they saw me weaponing up.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
Bernie Sanders - "If somebody is loading guns and ammunition into a house, I think it’s a good idea to call 911. Do it."

http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/)

What is more surprising is people who think all DemoProgs don't think this way...and don't care.

God-given rights cannot be taken away by any man.

It's stunning to think how ignorant people are, isn't it? 

Well, they'll learn...or die...makes no difference to me.


What a bunch of morons. First, if I see my neighbors weaponing up I ask what they have bought because I might want one. I actually feel safer. Btw, the Mossberg 500 we just purchased is sweet.
Next, the liberal mind.....Really? if you saw something you believe to be illegal, the first thought before you take action is are you profiling? Seriously? Not the safety of your family, your neighbors....

I also would not live next to muslims. Period. There, profile that. I would make damn sure they saw me weaponing up.

Hopefully the wind is going their direction too, if any are near...the smell of fresh pork sausage on the grill wafting thick! 

And make sure they see you loading ammo too!

(http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Jihawg-Ammunition-Logo.jpg)

Peace through pork, baby!

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on December 21, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
I'm a Bacon Crusader!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Bacon/extra-bacon_zpsvdz4er4v.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Bacon/good%20breakfast_zpsijj426rx.jpg)

Tastes great, repels Islaminals.

It doesn't get any better than that!

PS-I am saving up my bacon drippings, I don't know exactly what I am going to do with it, but I'm saving that stuff up!   ::whoohoo::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 21, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
Ya sautes yer mushrooms in it, then throw 'em in the greenbeans.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2015, 07:54:53 AM
Oh, yeah...there are food related ideas too.   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2015, 08:54:54 AM
More evidence of ProgTard lying about their Islaminal pals celebrating on 9/11...

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/12/exclusive_jersey_city_cop_residents_say_some_musli.html (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/12/exclusive_jersey_city_cop_residents_say_some_musli.html)

...massive ProgTard apologies to Trump in three...two...one...

(crickets)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on December 22, 2015, 10:20:45 AM
Lindsey Graham pulls out.
McCain frustrated.

I guess they will make some wars somewhere to feel better
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
Lindsey Graham pulls out.
McCain frustrated.

I guess they will make some wars somewhere to feel better

Grahamnesty might have pulled out of the POTUS stakes but he was never going to be anointed, if things had gone according to plan for the E-GOP he would be there to fawn over Jebbie and be an attack-poddle for any non-establishmentarian folks still hanging around.

But her head is still firmly encased in its rectum and only comes out when it is time to spoon with J-Mac or B-Hussein.

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2964/6768/original.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on December 22, 2015, 11:44:35 AM
Make War Not Love.

Lindsey and John's favorite refrain
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
Lookie here...I didn't know Allah made an appearance at the Trump rally in Grand Rapids, MI?!

Satan threatens to shoot Trump numerous times (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/leftist-threatens-to-shoot-donald-trump-throughout-michigan-rally-in-online-forum/).

And the fascist left also conducted disruption events inside the venue (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/confirmed-the-american-left-has-resorted-to-nazi-brown-shirt-tactics-to-take-down-donald-trump/).

Seems like the jackbooted thugs in the DemoProg camp are not pleased the E-GOP has failed to do their job this time, starting to take matters into their own hands...

Should tar & feather these clowns...and run 'em out on a rail, that would be so Revolutionary!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 23, 2015, 08:44:27 AM
Yeah, what else can ya do?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901)

Until unnamed unknown operatives sneak in there and break legs...the scum-sucking low-life proglodyte cheerwhores in the media will keep doing whatever the hell they want anyway...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 23, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
David Brock...  ::)

What queer sh*thouse did this fool slither out of?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/247042-david-brock-trumps-use-of-schlonged-remark-racist-designed-to-make-obama-look-like-a-black-rapist/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/247042-david-brock-trumps-use-of-schlonged-remark-racist-designed-to-make-obama-look-like-a-black-rapist/)

No, fool...for this to make Obama look like a rapist...it would have to be directed at a man...not a nominal she-whatever...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on December 23, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
Lindsey Graham pulls out.
McCain frustrated.


And I didn't even know they were lovers. ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on December 23, 2015, 08:52:33 PM
Butt buddies?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 24, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Nuttin buttbuddies
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on December 24, 2015, 07:45:32 PM
Nuttin buttbuddies

    You didn't know??   ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on December 25, 2015, 10:46:54 AM
Nuttin buttbuddies

    You didn't know??   ::falldownshocked::
I thought everyone knew! ::facepalm::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2016, 08:30:55 AM
I have to say...this kinda talk is nice to hear...

Donald Trump’s ad begins with a shot of President Obama and Hillary Clinton. Then comes a U.S. battleship launching a cruise-missile strike. From there it moves swiftly through an explosive montage: The suspects in the recent California terrorist attack. Shadowy figures racing across the U.S.-Mexico border. Islamic State militants.
 
The narrator, a deep-voiced man, speaks ominously: “That’s why he’s calling for a temporary shutdown of Muslims entering the United States, until we can figure out what’s going on. He’ll quickly cut the head off ISIS and take their oil. And he’ll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for.”
 
The spot closes with the image of Trump thundering at one of his rallies, “We will make America great again!”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-04/trump-vows-quickly-cut-head-isis-and-take-their-oil-first-tv-ad (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-04/trump-vows-quickly-cut-head-isis-and-take-their-oil-first-tv-ad)

...of course at this point it is just that - talk.  We all know what happens to be people once they enter The Swamp...but that quip about getting Mexico to pay for the wall, damn, that's a hoot!

And a couple other points...take that "temporary" sh*t off the Muslim ban!   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2016, 09:04:51 AM
I have a problem with the use of this term "heckle"!

But hey, these are low-life scum-sucking typical prog MFM presstitutes we are talking about (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/politics/hillary-clinton-heckled-over-bill-clinton-sex-scandals/)!

verb (used with object), heckled, heckling.
1.
to harass (a public speaker, performer, etc.) with impertinent questions, gibes, or the like; badger.

Wrong word, MFM jackass.  In proper context with the War of Women started by progs, Clinton being the enabler of a serial rapist husband is properly being challenged on her veracity in spouting words that her husband routinely defies and she herself ignores.

But demons protect their own, and in this case is the habit of blaming others for their own faults ever been more clearly exposed?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on January 04, 2016, 09:12:40 AM
What the dumbed down CNN audience doesn't know about that.

She's a rape survivor who used to be a Democrat, until Democrats gave Bill Clinton a pass on rape.

Minor detail for the willful stupid that watch CNN News.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2016, 09:14:59 AM
And Hitlery denied her of her voice as a victim, right after saying a victim had that right...and none of the brain-dead progs batted an eye at the sick irony!

Progs are Evil, just more proof.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2016, 12:12:17 PM
You knew it would be raised at some point...but the characterization by duh me-de-uhh that "Trump attacks Cruz" is BS...he answered a question honestly...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/249271-donald-trump-attacks-ted-cruz-over-his-citizenship/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/249271-donald-trump-attacks-ted-cruz-over-his-citizenship/)

...but most people for whatever reason have skipped beyond the question, so...it's over.  For now.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2016, 11:51:02 AM
Wow, what an ass!

http://iotwreport.com/hide-your-soda-bloomberg-looking-at-third-party-potus-run/ (http://iotwreport.com/hide-your-soda-bloomberg-looking-at-third-party-potus-run/)

Which is bigger, his ego or his assholeness?  Yeah, the latter drives the former...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 17, 2016, 11:50:27 AM
Heh.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/trump-goes-off-on-dopey-glenn-beck-says-he-called-oreilly-to-ask-him-why-he-was-on-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/trump-goes-off-on-dopey-glenn-beck-says-he-called-oreilly-to-ask-him-why-he-was-on-video/)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/glenn-beck-apologizes-for-fake-trump-tweet/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/glenn-beck-apologizes-for-fake-trump-tweet/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 17, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
Red meat for the hardcore ZH PaulBot...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/251399-trump-gets-booed-at-tea-party-event-when-he-attacks-ted-cruz/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/251399-trump-gets-booed-at-tea-party-event-when-he-attacks-ted-cruz/)

...but he might have gone overboard here...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 17, 2016, 01:30:44 PM
Not a Trump fan but, neither, Rubio nor Cruz are natural born citizens
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 17, 2016, 07:34:25 PM
Not a Trump fan but, neither, Rubio nor Cruz are natural born citizens

  Stop the birther crap. Both are born citizens for different reasons not a Rubio fan .
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 17, 2016, 10:41:59 PM
Sorry, John but I disagree with you.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on January 18, 2016, 08:05:51 AM
Not a Trump fan but, neither, Rubio nor Cruz are natural born citizens
After Obama, does it really matter what the definition of natural born vs native born? We've all agreed that the rule of law is dead and the judiciary is a joke so I ask you and forgive me but what difference does any of it make if it's only one side that abides by the constitution as written? Haven't we heard time and again from the left the catch phrase "it isn't fair?" Of course it isn't fair that only constitutional conservatives must abide by the constraints.

When and if we can go back to square one, we can put this type of restrictions and spell them out for the tenth generation that speaks who knows what language can comprehend them. Even if we had no Obama crisis, we would still be facing a population wholly indoctrinated from the leftist institutions for the last six or so decades thus we'd be facing the exact same problems of progressivism. We'll need a war just to rid ourselves of the scourge they on the left have created or be right back here at even less time.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 18, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
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After Obama, does it really matter what the definition of natural born vs native born?

Fair question, Warp, and one that was asked here a couple weeks ago.

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if it's only one side that abides by the constitution as written?

It seems like neither side is willing to abide by it.

I guess I should ask, "do two wrongs make a right?"

Also, this incremental acceptance is how we got here in the first place

If there is the other side to come out of (if we come out of it) is it better to try to re-establish principles or hold onto them?

I really, really wanted to like Ted Cruz.
He says all the right words but his actions are not.

Look at his voting record.

And ties to Goldman Saks and the CFR through his wife.
2 undisclosed loans from GS for his Senate campaign.
He forgot.

From a voting standpoint, I'm not voting for any of the Rs and Ds.
Here, in Pa., the primaries are irrelevant,
I will vote in my primary because I always do.
Just not for President.

In the general, I suspect I'll be 3rd party
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on January 18, 2016, 12:45:26 PM
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After Obama, does it really matter what the definition of natural born vs native born?

Fair question, Warp, and one that was asked here a couple weeks ago.

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if it's only one side that abides by the constitution as written?

It seems like neither side is willing to abide by it.

I guess I should ask, "do two wrongs make a right?"

Also, this incremental acceptance is how we got here in the first place

If there is the other side to come out of (if we come out of it) is it better to try to re-establish principles or hold onto them?

I really, really wanted to like Ted Cruz.
He says all the right words but his actions are not.

Look at his voting record.

And ties to Goldman Saks and the CFR through his wife.
2 undisclosed loans from GS for his Senate campaign.
He forgot.

From a voting standpoint, I'm not voting for any of the Rs and Ds.
Here, in Pa., the primaries are irrelevant,
I will vote in my primary because I always do.
Just not for President.

In the general, I suspect I'll be 3rd party
Two lefts don't but three of them do make a right. ::exitstageleft::

If we are to use this argument then we better either get used to being serfs or take aim and pulling the triggers.  ::rockets::

Look what happened in PA this past election cycle, conservatives sat home on their laurels and in went WackoWolf. In my mind, that's a really f**ked up trade off. Had I known the pubies in PA were that effing stupid, I would have moved elsewhere. I suppose just to much inbreeding here in the state. Better adjust those marriage laws regarding brothers and sisters.

Take aim without hesitation and fire.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on January 18, 2016, 12:59:33 PM
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2 undisclosed loans from GS for his Senate campaign.
He forgot.

No, that's not what happened.  The loans were reported where they were supposed to be reported, but some forms were missed.  And, you think the "media" hunted up this misinformation on their own?  They didn't; eGOP had/has it from old campaign reporting, filed by Cruz's campaign, and they turned it over to whatever "news" source is spreading this crap.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 18, 2016, 01:42:34 PM
I'm one of those who couldn't bring myself to vote for Corbett even though I knew Wolf would be bad.
He's certainly lived up to that billing.

Maybe all states are the same but I know Pa better.
Pubs control both houses and the governorship and still can't do anything.

I think the budget impasse is a good thing.
I think the Pub leadership wants to be like the big boys, Paul Ryan and McConnell and pass a budget close to what Wolf wants but there seems to be some that won't go along with these deals.

Pan, I will accept your explanation.

GS loan and Citibank loans

And, what about his voting record?

As I recall, subject to correction, he voted for TPP, NDAA and many other great things.

I think he's a CITO.
Conservative In Talk Only
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on January 18, 2016, 03:52:26 PM
I believe the other points you raise about Cruz's voting record are fair, AP, but I will correct the record where and when I see a need re: the loans.

I'm not in any candidate's corner right now.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 18, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
I appreciate and expect to be straightened out when I'm wrong.
Thank you
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on January 18, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Sorry, John but I disagree with you.


   Rubio born here to two legalized green card holding residents=citizen.  Cruz born in Canada to an American born woman and a non American father still = American citizen with an American birth certificate.  It's that simple.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on January 18, 2016, 06:05:57 PM
Corbett was certainly disappointing in some respects but a thousand fold better than the Phili thug, Ed Rendel.  Corbett can only move so fast unless you want it done via E.O. To sit home and allow Wolf to come into the mansion was and is a disaster in the making. NYC is dealing with this sh*t now and I can think of no one close to Wolf other than Herr Deblasio that is close to being in Frufruland.

Wolf's campaign made him out to be a CEO running his family's furniture operation. He wasn't, he was a quack that had to have the family remove to rescue his operation. Smoked way to much pot when he was growing up and of course we've seen this time and again with others that have big ideas with little or no experience. PA will be paying for this asswipe for decades to come.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on January 18, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
AP, I can only offer one piece of advice regarding what you'll be hearing from Cruz's enemies and that is be weary of the sources and why they suddenly come to the front.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on January 18, 2016, 10:32:05 PM
Politics 101 - when another starts closing the gap, attack, attack, attack, not on policy but personal and family.  This must be done with 10 minutes of news your "good Friend" has gained.  Just keep in mind that if that friend does drop back by one point or more - you do become "Best Friends" again, the beat does continue - until the winner gives the loser a government job until the next election cycle when the game starts again.... ::dueling::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on January 18, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
My best friend flexed her beer muscles at me on New Year's Day in front of other people .... and we're not in the running in any competition that I'm aware of.

So much for "Best Friends".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 18, 2016, 10:53:31 PM
I know what you are saying, warp.
However, his voting record is there to see as well as the Goldman connection through his wife.

Even if the to do about not disclosing the loans is exaggerated, can you qualify for a $500K loan and another from Citibank?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on January 19, 2016, 06:45:14 AM
I know what you are saying, warp.
However, his voting record is there to see as well as the Goldman connection through his wife.

Even if the to do about not disclosing the loans is exaggerated, can you qualify for a $500K loan and another from Citibank?
Put it this way. I know conservatives that have worked for the government and yet they are conservatives through and through. These agencies they worked for are the ones we love to hate but they did their job without corruption or being corrupted by it. Perhaps his wife is just that, one that worked for GS. Eventually, someone will put the questions to her, they always do before the election although there were about a million questions Moochele never got around to be asked.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 19, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Politicians have proven to be completely untrustworthy, warp.

Perhaps. Ted's wife is pure as the driven snow.
What are the chances she would have risen to the positions she has attained by not being part of it.

Or, why is she even in that den of vipers?

Moochelle and Barry are black and protected every which way but Sunday.
The questioners see no problem with GS because they're in on the game.

But, I'll ask again, Ted is the one running for President.
If he is such a proponent of liberty, why has he voted for so many bad things
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 19, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Ending the charade that is the GOP and sending the Establishment to the curb is about all I can work up an appetite for at this point.

We had a special election here, because one long-time Establishment jackass didn't get the GOP endorsement, I went only to cast a useless vote against him, the asshole won easily...now he goes against some DemonRat and now wtf is somebody supposed to do?  Doesn't fricken matter probably.

This crap has to end, period.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 19, 2016, 05:48:21 PM
Palin to endorse Trump?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/report-cruz-camp-concerned-sarah-palin-may-endorse-trump-in-ames/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/report-cruz-camp-concerned-sarah-palin-may-endorse-trump-in-ames/)

It would be huge news.



But this is great news -

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/gop-elites-blow-65-million-on-jeb-bush-and-his-failed-campaign/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/gop-elites-blow-65-million-on-jeb-bush-and-his-failed-campaign/)

Bwuuuuhaahaaa!  I call that a win-win for America!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 19, 2016, 06:18:08 PM
I was surprised but she has made other goofy endorsements.

I've liked Sarah but don't find her as constitutionally principled as I thought she was
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 22, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/22/do-emotions-trump-facts-n2108178/page/full (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/22/do-emotions-trump-facts-n2108178/page/full)

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Today's big puzzle is how so many otherwise rational people have become enamored of Donald Trump, projecting onto him virtues and principles that he clearly does not have, and ignoring gross defects that are all too blatant.

There was a time when someone who publicly mocked a handicapped man would have told us all we needed to know about his character, and his political fling would have been over. But that was before we became a society where common decency is optional.

Yet there are even a few people with strong conservative principles who have lined up with this man, whose history has demonstrated no principles at all, other than an ability to make self-serving deals, and who has shown what Thorstein Veblen once called "a versatility of convictions."

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on January 22, 2016, 09:18:04 AM
Today's bigger puzzle.  How many writing tripe such as the above hate Cruz even more?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 22, 2016, 12:28:45 PM
Today's bigger puzzle.  How many writing tripe such as the above hate Cruz even more?

What Thomas Sowell writes is rarely "tripe"  - and the article somewhat suggests Sowell likes Cruz..  but he himself will tell you that politicians are package deals. You have to take  everything they offer you.
But I think Sowell is correct on this one - Donald Trump does not have a record that suggests he has convictions.

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What kind of deals would Donald Trump make? He has already praised the Supreme Court's decision in "Kelo v. City of New London" which said that the government can seize private property to turn it over to another private party.

That kind of decision is good for an operator like Donald Trump. Doubtless other decisions that he would make as president would also be good for Donald Trump, even if for nobody else.
 

And that is the point - Trump is a operator. He is good at playing a corrupt game of crony capitalism that most of us would like to see stop. He will not be the man to stop it. He probably will change how the game is played in hilarious and satisfying ways,  that will just go back to what they were when Trump leaves.   Eight years ago he agreed with nearly everything that fell from a Liberal Democrat's mouth..and had the Clintons at his wedding.  That isn't to say Trump is a liberal - it  is to say his principles  are likely to change based on what he perceives as being advantageous to him at a given moment , because that is what he has done in the past.  His  stints on reality TV prove he is a very capable of projecting the image he wants others to see, and very intuitive about saying what others want or  need to hear .  I don't think he is a evil man, or even a bad one, nor do I think he would be a bad  President all told. He is, however,  not going to change or fix a damn thing, and his actions will not be motivated by principle or love of country, but by what he perceives as advantageous to him at that time. He does on occasion perceive popularity to be advantageous , so popular ideas may be enacted.. however a quick look at history will reveal that "popular" is not synonymous with "good" or "wise".  Yes, I am sure I will be entertained, because he is an entertainer,  but he will serve to distract from , not solve, the problems facing us. But then, I believe those problems are beyond the point of no return, so at this point, what difference does it make?  There isn't a problem solver in the bunch, except perhaps Cruz, but as you alluded to, he has his own issues.

I can't vote for this man, not even to defeat Bernie or Hillary.  In fact if they win they are likely to overreach further, drive the deficit faster, go police state too early-- those who are waiting for the inevitable conflict to begin  are more likely to get it sooner if Trump looses. Sorry folks, but for the first time in my life, I am sitting this one out and putting in a write in.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on January 22, 2016, 03:02:34 PM
quoting Weisshaupt; I am sitting this one out and putting in a write in.  

Don't know yet if I'll sit this one out.  I tried the 3rd candidate with Ross Perot and look where that got us.
I have never have wanted Trump, because I trust him as far as I can throw a baby elephant to the moon.
Right now my first consideration is Cruz, but if I were to go the write in route again, it might be Rand Paul.  And yes that's a long shot, but I think he has less baggage than any of those remaining.  Another write in might be Gov. Walker of Wisconsin, and that 's a very, very long shot, and undoubtedly a wasted vote.  The one thing I do believe is, we better get behind someone very soon or the socialist may get in and that will be the end of life as we know [or knew]it.  Sadly I've had to many elections where I cast my vote because I was against someone, and very few where I was for someone, and to me that is a sad state to be in, we sorely need true 'Statesman' instead of the politicians we have had, IMO ::whatgives::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 22, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
The office itself is immaterial, in latter day America if you are looking for a perfect candidate who will ride in on a white horse and undo all that is wrong and reinstitute that which is right and we can all live happily ever after is the biggest folly of them all.

We should only be interested in ending the fraud that is the GOP, an opposition party that is anything but and which serves only to enable the hardcore progressives.  Participating in this charade should be entered into with no hope of a restoration of liberty in effect or influence in outcome.  Instead any participation in this corrupt perverted system should have as its only aim to disrupt said perversion.  How best to do that is up to you.

First and foremost our top priority should be looking beyond this abberation because it has a certain expiration date, and plan and act accordingly.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 23, 2016, 10:15:03 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/23/do-emotions-trump-facts-part-ii-n2108185/page/full (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/23/do-emotions-trump-facts-part-ii-n2108185/page/full)

Part II
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 23, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/23/do-emotions-trump-facts-part-ii-n2108185/page/full (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/01/23/do-emotions-trump-facts-part-ii-n2108185/page/full)

Part II

Yep. I reached saturation with two weeks of a constant barrage of invectives aimed at the two frontrunners. They've convinced me - we do not have suitable candidates for the job. Let's just settle back and see what kind of job the hildebeast does with what's left of out nation.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 24, 2016, 11:18:55 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2581329 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2581329)

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In one of my first conversations at the Radisson, with two Republican activists, I asked a simple what's-up question about Trump. Both immediately responded in exactly the same way: "I don't know anybody who supports him." They're politically active and aware, but they said they have no contact in their daily lives with even a single person who supports their party's front-runner.

After that conversation, I began to ask everyone I met: Do you know anyone who supports Donald Trump? In more cases than not — actually, in nearly all the cases — the answer was no. I asked one woman Friday night, and she said she hadn't thought about it. I ran into her the next morning at breakfast, and she said, "That was a good question you asked me last night, and I've given it some thought." And no, she didn't know any Trump supporters.

eGOP establishment completely clueless about what is going on. Check

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An exception: I talked to two party officials, one county and one regional, who said they knew a lot of Trump supporters. "They're not Republicans," one told me, explaining at length that the Trump fans she knows are inexplicably devoted to him — unfazed by Trump's lack of policy specifics or any of his controversial statements. The two officials described having conversations and asking which candidate a voter supports, whereupon the voter quickly glanced left and right, to see if it was OK to talk, and then said, "Trump." That happens a lot, they told me.

Well no, they aren't republicans. How many people here are willing to identify as such now? Conservative yes.  Republican? No I don't want to give legitimacy to  a party of traitors who help the enemy at every opportunity.  But Trump is fundamentally a pick by the Democrats to pretend to be and outsider running as a republican in an attempt to steer the popular anger and resentment toward a candidate who won't change the Status quo or overturn the recent  Liberal advances. So yes, trump is doing his best to be that something different that will change nothing.  That candidate leading in the polls.  Check.


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The big worry among such Republicans is that there is a Trump movement out there that they can't see. "That's how we got burned by Obama," the politico said, recalling the 2008 race in which the Obama campaign used technology and social media to build a level of support that escaped the notice of Republicans stuck in an earlier era of campaigning. Today, clued-in Republicans know and respect Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who goes way back in New Hampshire. Corey's good on data and technology, they told me. They wonder if he's got something up his sleeve, and they just don't see it yet.


eGOP still easily broadsided ( probably by design)  by better campaigns. Check.

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I talked to a Republican political operative who has done a lot of work in New Hampshire. He has done so much work, in fact, that he knows many of the streets throughout the state by heart, and knows which houses display candidates' political signs at primary time and which don't.

He described driving down a street on the west side of Manchester, checking out the houses. He noticed Trump signs in front of houses that he knew had never displayed signs before. Seeing that, he began to think that all the talk about Trump appealing to a different kind of voter might be true.

Clueless morons who have just now  woken up just enough to sense something is very, very, wrong voting for Trump. Check.

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The operative recalled how previous candidates had wined and dined McQuaid, kissed his ring, done the whole fawning routine in hopes of winning the paper's endorsement. And when McQuaid didn't give it to them they ... kept mouths shut. Deep inside, they wanted to say to McQuaid the kinds of things Trump actually said, but they didn't have the wherewithal to do it. Truth be told, the operative found Trump's reaction pretty hilarious.

Propaganda bolstering Trumps status as an outsider of the eGOP , the Democratic party and the politcal elite instead of a man handpicked by the Statist cabal  that runs both major parties.  Check.

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Perhaps the most fundamental reason veteran Republicans can't quite get their heads around the Trump phenomenon is that, if it is real, it would say something about their state that they don't quite understand.

They noted the Republicans who have won the New Hampshire primary in recent years: Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush. (It's been 20 years since 'Pitchfork Pat' Buchanan won the 1996 GOP primary.) For Trump to really be on the verge of victory, wouldn't that mean the state of New Hampshire somehow had a total political personality transplant in the four years since Romney's victory? Is that really possible? Has New Hampshire returned to older times, or taken a turn in some unknown new direction?

Like everything else, they don't know.

"I don't understand it," yet another of those Republicans who doesn't know any Trump supporters told me as I got ready to leave the First-in-the-Nation gathering. "It doesn't make logical sense."

Because logically they have to vote for whatever stooge we put up, otherwise a Democrat will be elected. No one liked Romney. No one was excited  by Mcain. No one really wanted yet another Bush.  The based  voted to keep the Democrats out.. not because they liked the crap candidates the eGOP produced..those in the eGOP just  don't understand that their  base now vehemently wants the eGOP to die a horrific death and are willing to vote for a guy like Trump ( or not at all)  to prove it . Check.

Meanwhile, at instapundit
http://poll.pollcode.com/83539812_result?v (http://poll.pollcode.com/83539812_result?v)

Their poll has Cruz at 57%



 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 25, 2016, 05:23:39 PM
From IMAO

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“Stop pretending there are smart people we can elect who will actually fix things. Vote for Trump.”

“Admit it’s a broken system and vote for a broken person. Elect Trump.”

“SMOD has abandoned you. Vote Trump.”

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 25, 2016, 08:35:43 PM
From IMAO

Quote
“Stop pretending there are smart people we can elect who will actually fix things. Vote for Trump.”

“Admit it’s a broken system and vote for a broken person. Elect Trump.”

“SMOD has abandoned you. Vote Trump.”



"SMOD doesn't really care about you"

 ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 27, 2016, 07:40:57 AM
SMOD at least is the most honest and the most non-discriminatory.   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on January 27, 2016, 09:43:47 PM
This will make you want to puke.

Hillary: Obama as Supreme Court Justice is 'a great idea'.

http://www.caintv.com/hillary-obama-as-supreme-court (http://www.caintv.com/hillary-obama-as-supreme-court)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 28, 2016, 07:56:16 AM
If Tom DeLay is right, rather his sources are...Hillary will be indicted soon, so hopefully that will end any future....but these prove are like cockroaches anyway, so...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 28, 2016, 09:00:41 AM
Maybe Hillary wants to emulate Eugene Debs and run for President while in jail.

But, I don't ever see her indicted.
Unless Obama wants to hang her out to dry
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Septugenarian on January 28, 2016, 01:13:48 PM
And, the saga continues.  Today I read that the charge could be elevated to espionage.  That I wait to see.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
Yeah not gonna expect a whole lot there...

On the E-GOP front, no pretense at all with the phony scripted opening to last night's so- called debate on FuxNews, eh?  Smegyn cementing her pumps in the establishment camp.

Whatever...

Bring on SMOD!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on January 29, 2016, 08:32:13 AM
After watching the 'show' last night, especially the first part, the thought crossed my mind that Fox news and staff sold out to the Donald and helped keep the Trump debate fiasco going.  It seemed just a continuation of  helping make the narcissistic 'Donald' front and center allowing him the opportunity to pander to the vets at the same time, while once again not having to explain how he would accomplish all his "I WILL" claims of self grandiose acts of saving the planet.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2016, 11:54:44 AM
They want Rubio, since Bush exposed himself as a weak-minded fool too stupid to follow his handlers instructions the next easiest buffoon to prop up is the Ricky Ricardo of the Establishment.

The only vote that matters will come from the cartridge box not the rigged ballot box!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on February 01, 2016, 09:56:48 PM
  Ted pulls it out Donald second and Marco third.  Bush spent millions and ended up with 3% of the vote.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9KO0ZtLoDM&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9KO0ZtLoDM&feature=player_detailpage)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on February 02, 2016, 07:20:16 AM
Bernie essentially lost on coin flips and "lost" votes.

 ::popcorn::

 ::hysterical::

America, **** Yeah!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 02, 2016, 11:53:47 AM
Bernie essentially lost on coin flips and "lost" votes.

 ::popcorn::

 ::hysterical::

America, **** Yeah!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/ (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/)

Yeah, I don't know why Berners feel so butt-hurt...Progs have been pulling crap out of thin air and flipping coins since they hatched!

 ::hysterical::

Democracy, yo!

 ::laughonfloor::

And don't go getting too worked up about Jebbie...the E-GOP is already putting Operation Marco into play...

The Iowa winner rarely goes on the grab the whole thing...and the front-runner is almost universally defeated in New Hampshire and the real clean up comes after that when the full force of the E-GOP machine kicks into high gear.

I would expect Trump to take NH and then watch Rubio mysteriously surge into the lead after that...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 17, 2016, 08:26:15 AM
 Trump is really a Democrat (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431320/donald-trump-conventional-democrat?wRoZ59wcXRHSJJqr.01)

Remember--  you heard it here first.

Trump is and always has been the Democrat's pick for GOP nominee.   Mind, I don't agree with the Author that Trump is a Democrat.  I don't think Trump believes anything he says-  this was just what he used to have to say to the powers that be  to get his way and he fell back into it under pressure.

Meanwhile, Cruz Campaign  claims endorsement it didn't have  (http://twitchy.com/2016/02/16/ted-cruz-campaign-denies-posting-fake-trey-gowdy-facebook-page-endorsement/)  to add to the attempt to shame voters in Iowa.
Yo, Ted. Either you really are the liar they say you are or you have establishment moles sabotaging your campaign.  Maybe you should do something about that?
Seriously if you can't protect yourself from this sort of crap, you would be eaten alive as President.

IF I were to vote for anyone it would be Cruz.  He at least has a track record of trying to  buck the system - but if this is the level of his game, well, it won't matter much if he were President.
 

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2016, 10:10:18 AM
Sucks, doesn't it?

Seems like everything is a big sick joke!

And some people dare criticize those who are fed up with it all and walk away?!

Who is the greater fool, the one participating in a rigged game or the one refusing to play?

Latter day America stinks on ice!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on February 17, 2016, 01:20:15 PM
Seriously if you can't protect yourself from this sort of crap, you would be eaten alive as President.




This is the issue I have with Cruz......But not as President, I don't think he can beat Hitlery because she will unleash the most vile and vicious attacks known to man. He can't handle it, he won't fight back and the republican party will offer no support. He can forget any money from them either.  Everybody understands that's the allure of Trump.....He fights back. We've longed for it....and here it is, just not wrapped in the package we can trust if elected.

Cruz is my choice but I will vote for Trump if he surrounds himself with the Cruz's, a real conservative VP, a good conservative staff ( if there is such a thing) and demands they stand their collective ground. I'm of the mind that socially, we've lost. If we could get our fiscal house in order, I'd be satisfied. I don't hold out much hope. Yet again we have poor choices.

I'm guessing some sort of Sci Fi, mind exchange, where we give Cruz's conservatism to Trump or Trumps no nonsense to Cruz is out of the question. it's our only hope.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 17, 2016, 02:51:04 PM
Trump is really a Democrat (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431320/donald-trump-conventional-democrat?wRoZ59wcXRHSJJqr.01)

Remember--  you heard it here first.

Trump is and always has been the Democrat's pick for GOP nominee.   Mind, I don't agree with the Author that Trump is a Democrat.  I don't think Trump believes anything he says-  this was just what he used to have to say to the powers that be  to get his way and he fell back into it under pressure.

Meanwhile, Cruz Campaign  claims endorsement it didn't have  (http://twitchy.com/2016/02/16/ted-cruz-campaign-denies-posting-fake-trey-gowdy-facebook-page-endorsement/)  to add to the attempt to shame voters in Iowa.
Yo, Ted. Either you really are the liar they say you are or you have establishment moles sabotaging your campaign.  Maybe you should do something about that?
Seriously if you can't protect yourself from this sort of crap, you would be eaten alive as President.

IF I were to vote for anyone it would be Cruz.  He at least has a track record of trying to  buck the system - but if this is the level of his game, well, it won't matter much if he were President.

How about neither?

Per link @ HotAir, "Protein Wisdom" tweeted "Fact: FB page started in 2014. Fact: CRUZ campaign contacted FB and had it removed. Rubio, Gowdy never did."

https://twitter.com/proteinwisdom/status/700014178711392256?ref_src=twsrc (https://twitter.com/proteinwisdom/status/700014178711392256?ref_src=twsrc)^tfw

This "liarliar" chant is the chosen way to bring Cruz down.  Don't assist with this crap.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 17, 2016, 03:37:33 PM
The worst muckrakers haven't been the candidates but rather their acolytes. They've just about thoroughly pissed me off.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 17, 2016, 04:56:43 PM
This "liarliar" chant is the chosen way to bring Cruz down.  Don't assist with this crap.

The problem is that he is being set up - either from within or from without.  If he wants to fight the perception of being a "lair" he is going to have to go that extra mile to watch for and kill these things the second they appear.   No it isn't fair, but these people we are playing against don't play fairly.  Really its high time the whole sham system was called what it is and  abandoned, but if you insist on trying to fix things from "within the system", you are going to need to be proactive in finding and squelching the enemy camp's lies. And in Cruz's case, the enemy camp is pretty much everyone else.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2016, 06:43:48 PM
If ends justify means...only the most cutthroat can win.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on February 18, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
As of yesterday - Crump was threatening a law suit against Cruz, and the answer Ted Cruz gave had the taking heads at Fox laughing.  His answer was simply "bring it on", then he followed with - " I may not hire another lawyer, I may just take his deposition myself ".   He would be under oath [of course truth does mean much to the left, or temporary RINO's running on the GOP ticket].

But damn; I'd like to see that, it might be worth the price of admission.

Also was noted last night - On the national poll, Cruz now leads the 'Crump' by 2% - could it be that the public is getting tired of his narcissistic 'bullsh*t'.  I know the polls don't mean much right now with  all GOP candidates running, but is it an indication?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 18, 2016, 07:39:39 AM
Lawyers are for pussies.

Play for blood or go home.

If you can't out-Allinsky a Pubbie you stand no shot against a fully possessed DemonRat with all the resources of Hell behind it.

Not directed at anyone or on behalf of anyone, it is equal opportunity advice.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on February 18, 2016, 08:20:01 AM
Trump is really a Democrat (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431320/donald-trump-conventional-democrat?wRoZ59wcXRHSJJqr.01)

Remember--  you heard it here first.

Trump is and always has been the Democrat's pick for GOP nominee.   Mind, I don't agree with the Author that Trump is a Democrat.  I don't think Trump believes anything he says-  this was just what he used to have to say to the powers that be  to get his way and he fell back into it under pressure.

Meanwhile, Cruz Campaign  claims endorsement it didn't have  (http://twitchy.com/2016/02/16/ted-cruz-campaign-denies-posting-fake-trey-gowdy-facebook-page-endorsement/)  to add to the attempt to shame voters in Iowa.
Yo, Ted. Either you really are the liar they say you are or you have establishment moles sabotaging your campaign.  Maybe you should do something about that?
Seriously if you can't protect yourself from this sort of crap, you would be eaten alive as President.

IF I were to vote for anyone it would be Cruz.  He at least has a track record of trying to  buck the system - but if this is the level of his game, well, it won't matter much if he were President.
His opposition has a track record of both lying and fabrication to hang it on their opposition. Always wait for the rest of it to come out before allowing the enemy's propaganda to shape your opinion.

Watched the CNN Town Hall last night and Cruz was spot on presidential. Rubio sounded well versed and not as nervous as last Sat's clown circus er debate. He f**ked himself royally when he decided to run for POTUS with his pro amnesty record in the Senate, FL legislature and his original gig, mayor.

Watched a bit here and there of Trump MESBC get together with Joe and Mika. Tons of platitudes with the usual lack of serious substance. Trump believes that the government just spends to much citing a 2% cut would make things right. Scratching my head along with million of others thinking really, this is all you see wrong? Sorry, Progtard Trump may not be PC but he sure as hell is an old time DemonRat that believes govt is the answer to everyone's problem without actually living in the nightmare because his billions have insulated him from it. Cruz is correct, Chump would be a nightmare when it comes to defending our constitutional rights and Liberty from an over bearing tyrannical government. He's never taken those rights or the Constitution to heart simply because he's never needed to. Buying political favors was as simple as ABCs and that's how he did business aside from having his businesses filing for chapter 11 four different times leaving thousands and the banks to pick up the bad judgment.





Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 18, 2016, 09:43:28 AM
Trump believes that the government just spends to much citing a 2% cut would make things right. Scratching my head along with million of others thinking really, this is all you see wrong? Sorry, Progtard Trump may not be PC but he sure as hell is an old time DemonRat that believes govt is the answer to everyone's problem without actually living in the nightmare because his billions have insulated him from it. Cruz is correct, Chump would be a nightmare when it comes to defending our constitutional rights and Liberty from an over bearing tyrannical government. He's never taken those rights or the Constitution to heart simply because he's never needed to. Buying political favors was as simple as ABCs and that's how he did business aside from having his businesses filing for chapter 11 four different times leaving thousands and the banks to pick up the bad judgment.

And now he can guide the U.S. Government through Chapter 11. See he is perfectly qualified for this job.
Cut by 2%? Is that a "Washington Cut" where they ask for 8% increase  and  get it cut to 6%?
A real 2% cut (as in spending 2% less than we did last year) won't solve the problem but it would kick the can..  the slower the deficit grows, the longer the collapse takes to happen.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 18, 2016, 10:04:32 AM
We are so bleeped nine ways to Sunday no matter what it is beyond funny...beyond tragic...beyond words...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 18, 2016, 12:37:13 PM
Rubio and Trump really think they have a winner in incessantly calling Cruz a liar.

My assumption re; the short "Trey Gowdy Endorsement" scandal is that it was either a Trump or a Rubio acolyte who set up the fake FecesBook page. Probably Rubio, since Gowdy endorsed him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 18, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
Rubio and Trump really think they have a winner in incessantly calling Cruz a liar.

My assumption re; the short "Trey Gowdy Endorsement" scandal is that it was either a Trump or a Rubio acolyte who set up the fake FecesBook page. Probably Rubio, since Gowdy endorsed him.

Don't really matter.  Either Cruz becomes the Candidate or most of the base stays home.  I don't see the point in voting against the Democrat if Democrat operative #1 ,Trump, is my other choice. All that happened here was that the Democrats used the populist discontent to run a Democrat as a Republican.
Half of the Democrats are crossing the isle to vote for Trump in our primaries - because Hillary and Sanders are too far left and corrupt for even them. In the end the Democrat get a Democrat in the oval office. I am not playing this charade anymore. 

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Septugenarian on February 18, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
Cruz deposing Trump would make great TV at the very least.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on February 18, 2016, 09:48:21 PM
Quote
And now he can guide the U.S. Government through Chapter 11. See he is perfectly qualified for this job.
Cut by 2%? Is that a "Washington Cut" where they ask for 8% increase  and  get it cut to 6%?
A real 2% cut (as in spending 2% less than we did last year) won't solve the problem but it would kick the can..  the slower the deficit grows, the longer the collapse takes to happen.
I believe in DC speak, it's 2% cut of the proposed 8% increase which translates into virtually nothing.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 19, 2016, 07:04:37 AM
Bleeped, I say!

http://iotwreport.com/rubio-says-cops-racist-against-blacks-he-too-has-felt-sting-of-racism/ (http://iotwreport.com/rubio-says-cops-racist-against-blacks-he-too-has-felt-sting-of-racism/)

http://iotwreport.com/will-donald-trumps-reform-of-obamacare-include-a-mandate/ (http://iotwreport.com/will-donald-trumps-reform-of-obamacare-include-a-mandate/)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/18/exclusive-mike-lee-addresses-fight-between-his-two-friends-and-allies-cruz-and-rubio-on-campaign-trail/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/18/exclusive-mike-lee-addresses-fight-between-his-two-friends-and-allies-cruz-and-rubio-on-campaign-trail/)

Levin, who is launching a new show (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mark-levin-launches-levintv-challenges-hannity-rush/article/2583594) is for Cruz...Lee can't decide but appears way too friendly with E-GOP darling Marco...and the gutless wonder Beck likes Cruz too.  I would like him better had he been Founders Eligible (no more debate please, we've beaten that horse into pudding, my side lost!)...and if Beck supported someone else...and if Cruz could lower the actual pitch of his voice an octave...and...

Doesn't matter...no matter how much people would like to see Cruz get the nod...the E-GOP will not give it to him, they'll give it to anybody else but him...even Trump.

Bleeped?  Yeah, bleeped.

Make alternate plans!!!

It is time to discard the fiction that those who have brought the US to this pass have had honorable motivations. There is an understandable reluctance to state that they want what they have wrought: deterioration, destruction, ruin, and death.  They are reluctant to ascribe purely malicious and malignant motivations to any other human being, and they excuse failure, even repeated failure by people they detest, as stemming from the wrong political orientation, or as the unintended consequences of good, but unrealistic intentions.  This plays into the hands of the depraved. To say to them: “I’m sure you have the best of intentions,” is to lose the argument before it begins.  To state the truth: “They have the worst of intentions,” casts the “they” as irretrievably evil, opposed to every value of human existence. It means that “they” want the decay, destruction, and death they promulgate, that “they” want to see you and everybody else who is not “they” dead.  Here is what “they” want—”the destruction of all existence.” They want life or death control over you and not because they want you to live. They want to kill you because they want to kill themselves. That is the black hole that has sucked in what was once their souls, if they ever had souls.  The obliviousness that most Americans embrace is a death wish: ignore the reality of evil and it will go away. Reality doesn’t go away; it destroys the oblivious. Humanity is hanging by a slender threat and its only hope is recognizing the evil of those who would destroy it. The battle is joined when we choose to fight them. The choice is this: Life, or Death? The refusal to choose is a choice.

http://straightlinelogic.com/2016/02/16/life-or-death-by-robert-gore/ (http://straightlinelogic.com/2016/02/16/life-or-death-by-robert-gore/)

Plan for the real fight, let these birds of a lesser feather have their meaningless cockfight.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 19, 2016, 08:31:53 AM
Levin spoke (more like ranted, but that's Levin) last evening of the eGOP's plans for a brokered convention using Bush, Rubio and Kasich to do it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on February 19, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Levin spoke (more like ranted, but that's Levin) last evening of the eGOP's plans for a brokered convention using Bush, Rubio and Kasich to do it.

And people wonder why I'm not a registered republican.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 19, 2016, 11:40:01 AM
Levin spoke (more like ranted, but that's Levin) last evening of the eGOP's plans for a brokered convention using Bush, Rubio and Kasich to do it.

And people wonder why I'm not a registered republican.

Those people that wonder must be the truly stupid!

As for a brokered convention...I wonder if from a Machiavellian viewpoint that that should be allowed to happen...if it serves to end the party the E-GOP contaminated so thoroughly?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on February 22, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
And they say watch the internet for the non-truths -- me thinks talking heads on the air ways are spending to much time at 'twitter' and 'facebook' also.  New TV news [term used sparingly] could be -- 'If it bleeds or Trumps', it leads'.  Oh well - time to go back to jig-saw puzzles .....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2016, 07:30:32 AM
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/02/22/video-dick-van-dyke-endorses-bernie-sanders-he-may-be-the-last-voice-we-ever-hear (http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/02/22/video-dick-van-dyke-endorses-bernie-sanders-he-may-be-the-last-voice-we-ever-hear)

Dick is obviously insane...

But, who cares?  What difference does it make?

Clinton/Trump...

I'll probably write in "Up your ass!" anyway...

Though quips like this are a hoot - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-as-president-i-would-prosecute-clinton/article/2583925 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-as-president-i-would-prosecute-clinton/article/2583925)

PS - Somebody needs to work on their aim...this isn't even close to DC! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3459057/Largest-fireball-Chelyabinsk-falls-Earth-Nasa-reports-huge-explosion-seven-meter-space-rock-Atlantic.html)  Cosmos throws like a weak sister!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on February 24, 2016, 04:25:00 AM
I CANNOT stomach voting for either the Democrat leftist, the Socialist Leftist, or the GOP leftist.  I am looking for alternatives.

http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/Copeland/ (http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/Copeland/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 24, 2016, 07:28:44 AM
CHTHULU for President
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2016, 07:30:09 AM
Yeah, sounds like a decent chap CHF, but like many of our preferences they fail to translate through the fog of lies and perversion of these latter days and will be just another protest vote, which for the record I am not against...like many here I fully share the utter revulsion and inability to vote for another flawed candidate that will only be served up as fodder for fully-demonized progs to obliterate.

They way it looks now though, the choices range from weak to truly appalling.

Unless the E-GOP can engineer a brokered convention, there is no stopping Trump.  Even if you hate his guts, you have to admire is ability to fight all enemies.  And in a brokered convention anything can happen, but likely they would fall on a preferred candidate they can control like Rubio.  There will be no controlling Trump by either party, he is beholden only unto himself...which will bring a lot of good and a lot of bad.

And if Hitlery doesn't get indicted (and perhaps even if she does) the E-Dems seem to want her over the loose cannon Sanders.  But either one would be a harbinger of immanent doom anyway, so really what difference does it make?

So in the end there is no knight on a white horse...just a bunch of clowns on donkeys.

H/T - WRSA - (https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/screen-shot-2016-02-23-at-7-26-48-am.png)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2016, 07:38:23 AM
Sounds like rampant fraud going on in Nevada too.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/258377-nevada-caucus-chaos-no-ids-being-taken-people-voting-twice/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/258377-nevada-caucus-chaos-no-ids-being-taken-people-voting-twice/)

http://iotwreport.com/critique-of-nevada-caucus-complete-disaster/ (http://iotwreport.com/critique-of-nevada-caucus-complete-disaster/)

Maybe they'll be more retarded calls for lawyers?  Yeah nothing gets to the bottom of things faster and less costly than bringing in a bunch of lawyers!

/

Pretty much only two groups like cheating...DemoProgs, E-GOP Progs and PaulBots...

Probably all 3 at play here.

The stupid, however, is universal.

http://iotwreport.com/and-then-theres-this-alinsky-stupidity/ (http://iotwreport.com/and-then-theres-this-alinsky-stupidity/)

Yeah, dark-skinned BLM agitators better wear white gloves with their KKK outfits or it just looks stupid as hell!

 ::hysterical::

Hey? Look?!  Spooks!

 ::laughonfloor::

And in more hilarious stupidity...

Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said a federal judge’s ruling that Clinton and her top aides should be questioned under oath about the candidate’s private email server is part of the ring wing’s effort to hurt her chances of becoming president — he was then confronted with an inconvenient fact.

Asked by CNN anchor Jake Tapper about the latest development in the months-long email scandal, Mook tried to dismiss the judge’s ruling as a “right-wing” group’s attempt to hurt Clinton’s chances of becoming president.

Tapper was quick to point out that Judge Emmett Sullivan, who sits on the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was appointed by Clinton’s own husband, Bill Clinton. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/258352-hillary-aide-right-wing-conspiracy-is-behind-judges-decision-to-force-hillary-to-testify-under-oath-except-judge-appointed-by-bill-clinton/)

 ::rolllaughing::

At least we get some belly laughs in before it all goes down the drain and the running and shooting and screaming commences...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 24, 2016, 08:42:37 AM
Her campaign manager's name says it all:  Robby MOOK?!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on February 24, 2016, 09:00:21 AM
Sounds like rampant fraud going on in Nevada too.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/258377-nevada-caucus-chaos-no-ids-being-taken-people-voting-twice/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/258377-nevada-caucus-chaos-no-ids-being-taken-people-voting-twice/)

http://iotwreport.com/critique-of-nevada-caucus-complete-disaster/ (http://iotwreport.com/critique-of-nevada-caucus-complete-disaster/)

Maybe they'll be more retarded calls for lawyers?  Yeah nothing gets to the bottom of things faster and less costly than bringing in a bunch of lawyers!

/

Pretty much only two groups like cheating...DemoProgs, E-GOP Progs and PaulBots...

Probably all 3 at play here.

The stupid, however, is universal.

http://iotwreport.com/and-then-theres-this-alinsky-stupidity/ (http://iotwreport.com/and-then-theres-this-alinsky-stupidity/)

Yeah, dark-skinned BLM agitators better wear white gloves with their KKK outfits or it just looks stupid as hell!

 ::hysterical::

Hey? Look?!  Spooks!

 ::laughonfloor::

And in more hilarious stupidity...

Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said a federal judge’s ruling that Clinton and her top aides should be questioned under oath about the candidate’s private email server is part of the ring wing’s effort to hurt her chances of becoming president — he was then confronted with an inconvenient fact.

Asked by CNN anchor Jake Tapper about the latest development in the months-long email scandal, Mook tried to dismiss the judge’s ruling as a “right-wing” group’s attempt to hurt Clinton’s chances of becoming president.

Tapper was quick to point out that Judge Emmett Sullivan, who sits on the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was appointed by Clinton’s own husband, Bill Clinton. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/258352-hillary-aide-right-wing-conspiracy-is-behind-judges-decision-to-force-hillary-to-testify-under-oath-except-judge-appointed-by-bill-clinton/)

 ::rolllaughing::

At least we get some belly laughs in before it all goes down the drain and the running and shooting and screaming commences...

  Were back to that "vast right wing conspiring against the Clintons" Good Grief have they nothing else!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 24, 2016, 09:18:59 AM
Quote
Pretty much only two groups like cheating...DemoProgs, E-GOP Progs and PaulBots...

Curious about this, Libertas.
Don't get mad but I see a contradiction.
Possibly.

It sure seemed like the cheating last time went against "Paulbots"
Also, why the derisive term?

Ron Paul was the closest we've had to a Constitutionalist and Liberty candidate in a long time.

I had issues with, mostly, his foreign policy and borders.
But, I was with him on smaller government and less infringement.

I agreed on states' rights, get rid of the Fed and personal liberty.
Isn't this site called "It's About LIBERTY?

You know that I like and respect you a lot but I don't understand your position.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 24, 2016, 12:07:24 PM
If I may, AP, it's not about the Pauls, Rand or Ron, "Paulbots" is about many of their supporters -- they're nuts.  See what you wrote, "I had issues with, mostly, his foreign policy and borders."?  Anyone attempting to discuss that with Paulbots are/were met with vituperation, ad hominems, etc.

Unfortunately, a lot of Trump supporters are behaving in the same manner.

**sigh**
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 24, 2016, 01:29:12 PM
Thanks for that, Pan.
There definitely were some idiots.
And I agree about the Trumpettes/Trumpkins...

At least the Paul supporters had a principled basis to argue from but the Trump supporters are taken in by the PT Barnum/Pied Piper Trump show
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 24, 2016, 01:41:52 PM
I dunno, AP; I tend to believe they're less taken in than that in Trump they see a murder weapon with the eGOP and even the Dems as the deserving "victims".  Mayhap in that they ARE 'taken in', if Trump deals rather than Trump, Smash.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on February 24, 2016, 01:58:38 PM
  I see the establishment of both sides not wanting to play nice with Trump. If he wins he will have to drag them all kicking and screaming all the way.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 24, 2016, 03:12:01 PM
I see, at best, a northeastern republican.

Since he's never shared his Road to Damascus moment, I suspect his rhetoric is one of expediency.

He will be the Great Compromiser to make deals and that may lead to further erosion of our rights
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on February 24, 2016, 03:37:34 PM
I see, at best, a northeastern republican.

Since he's never shared his Road to Damascus moment, I suspect his rhetoric is one of expediency.

He will be the Great Compromiser to make deals and that may lead to further erosion of our rights

   If nothing else the budget is his strong suit as is immigration.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 24, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
Maybe, John.

His immigration rhetoric is strong.
But he readily admits to using illegals.

Not sure I put a lot of stock in what he says.

Haven't seen much on his budget positions, except, maybe, cutting 2% or something.

What could possibly be a strong point is he might go after the departments like a businessman and cut some waste.

He's certainly not a big private property guy since he believes in eminent domain for private use
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on February 24, 2016, 03:55:08 PM
I see, at best, a northeastern republican.

Since he's never shared his Road to Damascus moment, I suspect his rhetoric is one of expediency.

He will be the Great Compromiser to make deals and that may lead to further erosion of our rights

   If nothing else the budget is his strong suit as is immigration.


Which is why I'm to the point of saying..."why the hell not Donald Trump". The place is in the toilet socially. We have lost. Defeated. If in some miracle he could actually stop illegal immigration and right the budget, maybe we can squeeze out a few more years before I actually need to defend myself.

If not, we are screwed anyway. It really won't matter who blames whom, who is in charge, I really won't get any satisfaction stating "I told you so". What will be the point. I feel fortunate that I actually have a plan when the chit hits the fan. I can't do much else.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on February 24, 2016, 04:08:41 PM
I see, at best, a northeastern republican.

Since he's never shared his Road to Damascus moment, I suspect his rhetoric is one of expediency.

He will be the Great Compromiser to make deals and that may lead to further erosion of our rights

   If nothing else the budget is his strong suit as is immigration.


Which is why I'm to the point of saying..."why the hell not Donald Trump". The place is in the toilet socially. We have lost. Defeated. If in some miracle he could actually stop illegal immigration and right the budget, maybe we can squeeze out a few more years before I actually need to defend myself.

If not, we are screwed anyway. It really won't matter who blames whom, who is in charge, I really won't get any satisfaction stating "I told you so". What will be the point. I feel fortunate that I actually have a plan when the chit hits the fan. I can't do much else.




Exactly.  And I echo what Pan said about seeing Trump as the murder weapon.  We were good soldiers, we got the GOP congressional shifts of historic proportions.  We won them huge gains in state governorships and legislatures.  In return all we have received is derision, scorn, and not even the pretense of enacting our agenda.  So eff 'em. 

I am past the point of seriously believing in the possibility of political solutions, but maybe with Trump there's at least a chance he'll be something other than DC business as usual.  He may be a pandering populist, but some of that populism would be well received if he actually saw it through, and by that I mean immigration.  If we don't halt the demographic takeover of this country -- deliberately engineered by the Left and abetted by the Chamber of Crony Commerce cheap labor cohort -- then debates over conservative purity are moot.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on February 24, 2016, 07:40:06 PM
  I'm good with setting fire to DC and if it takes Trump to do it then so be it! Do I like the man....hell no!! But I haven't had anybody to like in a long time.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 25, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
  If we don't halt the demographic takeover of this country -- deliberately engineered by the Left and abetted by the Chamber of Crony Commerce cheap labor cohort -- then debates over conservative purity are moot.

How many of these people are going to stay when there is no free cheese and the race/civil war begins in earnest?  They can get tat where they came from, and at least they have family and relative there.  Demographics  change fast in a war zone.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 25, 2016, 07:42:04 AM
I see, at best, a northeastern republican.

Since he's never shared his Road to Damascus moment, I suspect his rhetoric is one of expediency.

He will be the Great Compromiser to make deals and that may lead to further erosion of our rights

   If nothing else the budget is his strong suit as is immigration.


Which is why I'm to the point of saying..."why the hell not Donald Trump". The place is in the toilet socially. We have lost. Defeated. If in some miracle he could actually stop illegal immigration and right the budget, maybe we can squeeze out a few more years before I actually need to defend myself.

If not, we are screwed anyway. It really won't matter who blames whom, who is in charge, I really won't get any satisfaction stating "I told you so". What will be the point. I feel fortunate that I actually have a plan when the chit hits the fan. I can't do much else.




Exactly.  And I echo what Pan said about seeing Trump as the murder weapon.  We were good soldiers, we got the GOP congressional shifts of historic proportions.  We won them huge gains in state governorships and legislatures.  In return all we have received is derision, scorn, and not even the pretense of enacting our agenda.  So eff 'em. 

I am past the point of seriously believing in the possibility of political solutions, but maybe with Trump there's at least a chance he'll be something other than DC business as usual.  He may be a pandering populist, but some of that populism would be well received if he actually saw it through, and by that I mean immigration.  If we don't halt the demographic takeover of this country -- deliberately engineered by the Left and abetted by the Chamber of Crony Commerce cheap labor cohort -- then debates over conservative purity are moot.

Pretty much where I am.  Whatever destroys the sham that is the GOP is a good thing, I don't really care what the implement is.  And I say I don't particularly GAFF about the general election only in that at that point it really doesn't matter.  The GOP has strung us along for decades...as soon as Reagan left and their boy HW got in they knew the Revolution was over.  And now after dozens...hundreds of betrayals...their empty pandering and lies have bore fruit they don't like.  Well too effing bad.  I don't GAFF if Trump is a democrat, I don't GAFF if he is the son of the devil...if he helps end the GOP its all fine with me, they deserve it.  GAFF about who gets to be the next POTUS gets me about as excited as GAFF about who is the next Kardashian boy toy...in the scheme of my life and my plans they don't matter a whit.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 25, 2016, 07:49:09 AM
Thanks for that, Pan.
There definitely were some idiots.
And I agree about the Trumpettes/Trumpkins...

At least the Paul supporters had a principled basis to argue from but the Trump supporters are taken in by the PT Barnum/Pied Piper Trump show

Don't be deceived, there has always been a populist quasi-religious inflexibility born of a true cult of personality surrounding Paul, and his most devout disciples are the PaulBots.  For every good and principled position their Saint has (mostly on economic issues) he has just as many moonbat positions in harmony with the likes of Code Pink, OWS and Art Bell.  And in Trump they see someone who can exact revenge upon the GOP and upon the nation for effing over their Saint for so many decades.  They love Trumps populism, they love his blunt talk, and they really love that he drives people in both major parties and the media effing nuts.  This is about revenge as much as anything.  Go over to ZeroHedge, anybody saying the slightest criticism of Trump is eviscerated, it's just like someone attacked Saint Paul.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2016, 02:18:04 PM
Look here, AP ....

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/23/must_hear_rush_blows_the_lights_out_in_the_final_hour_what_this_election_is_really_about_and_what_s_really_at_stake (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/23/must_hear_rush_blows_the_lights_out_in_the_final_hour_what_this_election_is_really_about_and_what_s_really_at_stake)

It's a long read, but worth doing so in my opinion.  For everybody.

H/T Liberty's Torch
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on February 25, 2016, 02:55:19 PM
They love Trumps populism, they love his blunt talk, and they really love that he drives people in both major parties and the media effing nuts. 

Hell, I love that about him, too. But that's not enough for me to vote for him.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 25, 2016, 03:17:41 PM
Thanks, Pan, but I've ignored Rush for years
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Suit yourself, but you are missing out if you refuse to read the transcript.  I'm serious.  He's not shilling for anyone, he's explaining why we're mad as hell and not taking it anymore.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 25, 2016, 06:52:48 PM
Look here, AP ....

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/23/must_hear_rush_blows_the_lights_out_in_the_final_hour_what_this_election_is_really_about_and_what_s_really_at_stake (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/23/must_hear_rush_blows_the_lights_out_in_the_final_hour_what_this_election_is_really_about_and_what_s_really_at_stake)

It's a long read, but worth doing so in my opinion.  For everybody.

H/T Liberty's Torch

Good read.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on February 25, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
I am TRYING not to make definitive statements that box me in. I AM dissatisfied with Trump and Rubio. I have not decided that I must vote against them at all costs, but I have not decided I can vote for them if they are the GOP alternative to the admitted socialist or the one who lies about being a socialist, while stealing all she can for herself.

Please, God, grant us a better choice. We are duly punished, and I for one repent and pray forgiveness for my country. Let this be over, please.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on February 26, 2016, 05:24:04 AM
Moses had his doubters as well and he came through. I pray Cruz will get the nod and deliver his promises
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2016, 07:51:56 AM
Cruz is cooked, the E-GOP hate him more than Trump and can control Rubio more than Trump.  It's Rubio, Trump or a protest vote...those are your choices and nothing short of an Old Testament miracle is going to alter that reality.  Get used to it.

As for the Rush piece...

From the link -

The final battle over the soul of the nation...

But if you believe in a certain cultural America, it's under siege.  There's nothing to join with on the other side in preserving it.  They want to tear it down, transform it, and rebuild it.  They have to be defeated.  This is why the Republican Party's worthless.  They don't even think this way. 
The Republican Party's thinking about showing they can work together, they can cooperate, make Washington work.  Sorry; we're so past that, we're so far past that, it's irrelevant.  We're talking about holding on and preserving the country as founded.  And it's gonna be really, really hard. 

The second thing is, "Rush," -- and this is not just you -- "Rush, we can't deport 12 million people.  We're never gonna --" Who says?  All that is is a conversation stopper.  We are the United States of America.  Who says we can't get rid of people who are here illegally?  It's not a question of we can't.  It's a question of do we have the resolve to?

And then later on talking about the HW betrayal...

But it was just four short years later and here comes Bill and Hillary Clinton.  And why?  Because the next president got rid of Reaganism.  The next president started making deals with the Democrats to show that we can do deals, to show that we're nice guys, to show that we can get along.  My point is, we had the greatest economic circumstances in our lifetimes and the Democrats were not interested, Pam.  They didn't want to participate, because it left them out of power. 

Running the same outdated E-GOP playbook...

We don't have time to get around to what we want to advance.  We're too busy stopping.  They're not talking about stopping anything.  They're on the march! They're on the march and succeeding with things that ten years ago you would have never thought would ever happen.

How many of us are fed up...

They're frustrated; they're ticked off; they're angry.  They want to do more than just stop something every day.  They're tired of being overrun.  They're tired of not having allies in the centers of power where this stuff can be stopped.

And the closing basically asks the question of "who?"...

We're gonna need people with such backbone and guts and steel and iron to hold up and to withstand what's gonna come at 'em, you can't even imagine it.  But it's what's gonna happen.

So, who fits that bill, eh?

It's a good rant, vintage Rush...and he's spot on through 99% of it...

But, getting back to the central points in it all...I don't see enough numbers let alone the strength of spine required in the current mix of liberty-minded participants that would enable us to effect the kind of political force that can start the rollback on the illegals issue let alone all the other issues and keep up the fight against hard Progs in the DemonRat camp and the soft Progs in the E-GOP camp and sustaining it for decades, which is what it probably will take.

God Bless Rush, I admire his optimism and spirit but realistically when you survey the landscape, tally the numbers and measure the leadership...I don't know how you get there with this.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 26, 2016, 08:00:05 AM
Is it too soon for the Scott Walker "Miss me yet?" poster?

 ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2016, 08:11:12 AM
You want to get in on the ground floor of something?

Try getting the jump on the "Rubio suspends campaign" announcement...it might be coming true very soon if this holds up...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/258702-new-polls-trump-beating-rubio-in-florida/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/258702-new-polls-trump-beating-rubio-in-florida/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on February 26, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
Why do you say Cruz is cooked? Had three states' primaries. He won the first and tied for two others second. Texas is his for losing and so many others. I think we have some time before we can call it quits.

 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
Why do you say Cruz is cooked? Had three states' primaries. He won the first and tied for two others second. Texas is his for losing and so many others. I think we have some time before we can call it quits.

Only because e-GOP would rather see anybody else but Ted...remember, these are the "it's theses kind of folks that give E-GOPers a bad name" kinda folk who control the board...because the PaulBots will only go for Trump...and because there are some strict constructionalists (we've had the debate here ad naseum) that are not convinced he is eligible...etc etc.  I could be wrong but to me it is a Trump/Rubio race with Trump rapidly gaining enough momentum & delegates that once we get into April this could effectively be over...the only drama is if the E-GOP engineer something to strip delegates and throw the whole thing into chaos where anything (usually not anything better!) happens.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on February 26, 2016, 04:22:06 PM
I think it will all be over but the shouting next week.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2016, 09:57:00 PM
Sessions openly endorsed Trump after helping him behind the scenes...

It just goes to show how fed up people are with the E-GOP, they don't care who the assassin is, as long as the E-GOP gets it stuffed up their ying-yang...

And I can't say they didn't have it coming...

We can argue if the choice of implement is right, but the sentiment behind it is all because the E-GOP has been treating people like crap...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2016, 10:26:05 PM
In other news...Marine confronts Team Clinton, gets kicked out...

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/02/28/video-exclusive-marine-booted-from-clinton-rally-pours-his-heart-out-after-event-in-emotional-interview-311260 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/02/28/video-exclusive-marine-booted-from-clinton-rally-pours-his-heart-out-after-event-in-emotional-interview-311260)

It's a bit like asking the Devil why he is evil, but I applaud the man for trying.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 29, 2016, 07:50:57 AM
On its face this is an excellent article, a good screed against one flawed man in a multi-flawed field...but it relies on a veteran journalists skill of hiding hyperbole in plain sight by surrounding it with conjecture.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/three_simple_questions_for_trump_supporters.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/three_simple_questions_for_trump_supporters.html)

I have three questions of my own.

1) Everyone still deluded enough to think we can solve serious existential questions and erase decades...over a century of institutionalized statism...simply by participating in a corrupt system and backing "the right" political horse...is only fooling themselves and deceiving their friends and neighbors.  Isn't this suspiciously naive?

2) Isn't it odd that everybody who has a horse in this race, no matter how bleeped up the horse may be...acts like the New Reagan while violating the Prime Directive of Reaganism?  The 11th Commandment only applies when it doesn't, eh?

3) If I were The Butthead, I would want everyone throwing scat on each other, then I would plant as much incriminating evidence on the front-runner as I can manufacturer (if it is not their guy) so I can throw the entire field into a brokered convention and make whatever deals are necessary to get the true E-GOP standard-bearer the nomination.  Isn't that a little more substantive than pointing at who someone has or has not criticized?  (PS-We won't know if Trump is truly the E-GOP's "guy" until he secures enough delegates to take the nomination...they take it away, he's not "their guy"...they don't take it away but don't support him in the general, he's not "their guy"...roll your dice how you want, just don't be surprised either way it breaks.  Revisit "corrupt system" screed.)

And along that notion...

Apparently, both Adolph Hitler and David Duke said nice things about Jesus Christ...I reckon I gotta rethink my choice of Savior, eh?  Yeah, maybe not.  Maybe it's the morons...

#ScrewElectionsGoPlanB!

ETA - And ahh, umm...how do we factor this in?

“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,” Former CIA director Michael Hayden said, in an interview with Bill Maher. Hayden also says that the armed forces would simply refuse to follow Trump's orders were he to be elected and follow through on his campaign promises. 

Here's what Hayden had to say about Trump's promise to kill family members of ISIS: "God, no! Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act. You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order. That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. There would be a coup in this country."

https://youtu.be/pC7-RMhfSos (http://youtu.be/pC7-RMhfSos)

The deep state and the lunatic Maher fear Trump.

Am I supposed to cheer...or what?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on February 29, 2016, 11:53:34 AM
Another Captain Obvious report...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/259237-foreign-clinton-donor-made-contributions-to-u-s-political-campaigns-despite-ban-on-foreign-money/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/259237-foreign-clinton-donor-made-contributions-to-u-s-political-campaigns-despite-ban-on-foreign-money/)

...laws are only for little people, especially those who are not Progs...

...otherwise criminals like this would be behind bars, right?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2016, 08:07:22 AM
http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/a-new-gop-is-born/ (http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/a-new-gop-is-born/)

Not too surprising given Buchanan is more in the mold of a Libertarian-Conservative...so take it for what it's worth...

But I have to admit...I cannot read or hear this kind of statement often enough!

"...the returns from the primaries look like the passing of the old order, the death rattle of an establishment fighting for its life, and being laughed at and mocked as it goes down."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on March 01, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
Well off to see the wizard and do my civic duty.  Have decided that the best coarse of action will be the flip a coin when I get the 'cheat sheet' to put my mark on. 

Damn this is really going to be fun ----  ::unknowncomic::  ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 01, 2016, 08:44:12 AM
We have caucuses - I don't know when and IDC because we also don't have any influence on anything.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
If we actually got around to doing our civic duty statists of all stripes would be running for their lives and the streets would echo with reports and the cries of the wicked...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 01, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Jeepers Cripes!!!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/259388-cair-handing-out-im-muslim-i-voted-stickers-at-polling-centers-on-super-tuesday/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/259388-cair-handing-out-im-muslim-i-voted-stickers-at-polling-centers-on-super-tuesday/)

 ::gaah::   ::outrage::

About all those are good for is making identification even easier.

I bet this Beantown muzzie-butt-kisser loves that sh*t! (http://www.weaselzippers.us/259384-boston-police-commissioner-visits-largest-mosque-in-new-england-declares-were-all-muslims-deep-down/)

 ::pullhair::

 ::laserkill::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 01, 2016, 08:32:51 PM
 ::outrage:: is right!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on March 01, 2016, 08:49:50 PM
That's really odd. I know a BUNCH of vets and none, zero, zip, have that sentiment.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2016, 07:20:58 AM
The more people advertise, through whatever means, their hostility to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of (Living!) Happiness...well, thanks.  We'll catch up with y'all in a bit m'kay?!

 ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2016, 07:37:34 AM
BOT - Trump and Hitlerly roll on, Cruz stays afloat with TX & OK, but at this point all he can angle for his either a spot as VP or a promise to be seated on SCOTUS.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0d996fcce5de470a9f73f655aa1e6e05/super-tuesday-clinton-trump-look-pull-away-rivals (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0d996fcce5de470a9f73f655aa1e6e05/super-tuesday-clinton-trump-look-pull-away-rivals)

This is hilarious...

http://www.nydailynews.com/complete-guide-fleeing-president-donald-trump-america-article-1.2549397 (http://www.nydailynews.com/complete-guide-fleeing-president-donald-trump-america-article-1.2549397)

...not a single one of these bloviating hypocrites is going to go anywhere!  As always they all just talk out of their asses!

 ::mooning::

Some of their ex-pat destinations make no fircken sense, well to me anyway...

This is pathetic...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/minnesota-dfl-caucus-candidates-speak-only-in-somali/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/minnesota-dfl-caucus-candidates-speak-only-in-somali/)

...once more I have to hide my Minnesota heritage...if anybody asks I a from Wisconsin.

...I swear I see some of these idiots next door to me.

Part of the Prog-economy effect...old rural outer ring areas like mine are more affordable than the pricier high-tax inner ring/core neighborhoods...so morons like this venture into my once peaceful semi-rural neck of the woods...

 ::gaah::

I hear their jibber-jabber and their noisy spawn too often...

When it's warmer I do my Kowalski imitation...

Oh, and if it isn't embarrassing enough to be a Minnesotan, our caucus went to Rubio!  Great, the E-GOP standard-bearer v2.0, wow...

 ::unknowncomic::

But realistically, it is like being provisionally named Mayor of Turdtown, caucus is non-binding.  Precinct delegates go to BPOU convention, then District convention, then State convention...that's three more whacks at gaming the thing until people have to put up at the National convention.

Congrats Rub's, you won basically nothing...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 02, 2016, 08:23:19 AM


http://www.krdo.com/news/heres-why-you-will-not-see-republican-caucus-results-tonight/38282368 (http://www.krdo.com/news/heres-why-you-will-not-see-republican-caucus-results-tonight/38282368)

Michelle went to Caucus last night and apparently the eGOP has decided that  they aren't even going to do an offical straw poll-- because reporting tallys from the general caucus would bind delegates... and eliminate  a bunch of cheating and bribery going on at the State level. They weren't even allowed to discuss the candidates - after all that vote won't matter,  but Michelle's table of 10 , 4 voted Rubio, 1 Trump, 4 Cruz, 1 Carson anyway,  and elected a Delegate ,so  there you are.

The GOP is dead to me. If I get a single call from them this election season that poor person on the phone is going to hear about it. 


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2016, 11:18:51 AM
Yup, it used to be life would only deal you a sh*t sandwich once in a while...the frequency has risen to the point that in the Progworld of today sh*t sandwiches are coming at you on a high-speed conveyor belt...

Time to blow that sh*t up...repairs are pointless and futile.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2016, 11:59:18 AM
Speaking of futile...

It's embarrassing but not surprising that Minnestupid Caucasoids went for the full-blown socialist idiot over the corrupt fugly hag waving the Clinton flag like it means anything anymore...(they must have not gotten Hitlery's message about having a vagina...or they no longer believe it or care)...but now the biggest effing fraud ever to ooze out of the so-called unaligned swamp has to stick his brain-dead mug in our faces!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-02/jesse-ventura-says-he-might-run-president-if-bernie-sanders-isnt-nominated (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-02/jesse-ventura-says-he-might-run-president-if-bernie-sanders-isnt-nominated)

Will the outrageous uninvited insults never end?!

So Mr Empty Potatohead is all for the socialist dweeb without a clue...shut up!  Nobody cares!  Please, go back to your dark cave in the DrugLordOcracy of Mexico and die!

Nobody cares about any of the psychotic crap rattling around that commode on your shoulders you widow-suing no-talent do-nothing has-been never-will-be gutter-dwelling swamp lizard!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on March 02, 2016, 04:18:21 PM
Libertas you gotta watch it  --- ::mooning:: -- that may turn the  ::puke:: on ....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 02, 2016, 05:55:06 PM
Speaking of futile...

Quote
First, from everyone’s favorite prophesy, I present a man who needs no introduction, President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho!
(https://adaptivecurmudgeon.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/president-dwayne-elizondo-mountain-dew-herbert-camacho.jpeg?w=640)
Now pay attention here because this guy, in addition to being satirical (and a second amendment supporter), was a better president than we’ve had in a long time. His people were suffering and so the “nutcase” found a smart guy (with a peanut head) told him to solve it, and then got the hell out of the way. This president, unlike the losers we’ve been electing preferred solving problems to creating them! Seen DC solve a problem lately? Go ahead, name a real life political problem from the last 15 years or so and tell me that it’s been solved by DC. Heck, our current establishment says they’re awesome so surely they can name a few really resounding successes. I’m waiting. In the meantime I’ll read a press report that says “plants crave it” and DC will go back to freebasing debt.

read more at https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/one-last-laugh-before-the-trumpening/

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016 !
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2016, 07:15:26 AM
He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2016, 07:24:16 AM
Speaking of stupid...

This is a hoot!

"Here's what I know: Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud," Romney said in his talk, set for delivery later Thursday.  Trump, in turn, disparaged Romney in a series of tweets: "I am not a Mitt Romney, who doesn't know how to win," ''Romney, who ran one of the worst races in presidential history, is working with the establishment to bury a big 'R' win!" and Romney is "not a good messenger" to be telling Republicans how to get elected.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/999a7f499006448a9068f19130050428/gop-sees-options-stopping-trump-not-good-ones (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/999a7f499006448a9068f19130050428/gop-sees-options-stopping-trump-not-good-ones)

Pot-Kettle...something shiny...anything else on the boob tube?  No?

 ::)

And more big jokes...

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/01/gop-debate-tickets-detroit-michigan/81165542/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/01/gop-debate-tickets-detroit-michigan/81165542/)

Serfs?  Who needs that sh*t?  They're supposed to do as told, period!  That isn't how Proglodyte democracy works...proglodyte democracy is all about giving the illusion people matter when only the elite people really matter!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2016, 07:56:06 AM
Sure, this is ZH pulling from CNN...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-03/desperation-moves-romney-plots-block-trump-republican-convention (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-03/desperation-moves-romney-plots-block-trump-republican-convention)

...but if true, and I hope it is...this is a sure-fire guarantee to end the E-GOP as a major political force for good.

Go for it!   ::praying::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 04, 2016, 11:51:29 AM
He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.

Yeah the rant wasn't that awesome, the awesome bit was pointing out that even Satire - a deliberate  attempt to create an outrageously bad president  in 2006 - gives us a character who is a better  President than anyone we have had since Reagan. Because he was smart enough to know what he didn't know, find someone who did and then get out of the way.

By the way, I have decide this WILL be my write in Candidate on my Ballot

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016!

 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
He's a little more scattered on this rant.  Trump, Ron Paul and Oprah?  These are not alike...unless taken from a narrow populist view.  Even then, not all populism is alike either, the reasons why matter more than the person...the person mattering only if they are insane.  Well, more debate material...

But Barry dumber than Hector?  Yeah, not even close.

Yeah the rant wasn't that awesome, the awesome bit was pointing out that even Satire - a deliberate  attempt to create an outrageously bad president  in 2006 - gives us a character who is a better  President than anyone we have had since Reagan. Because he was smart enough to know what he didn't know, find someone who did and then get out of the way.

By the way, I have decide this WILL be my write in Candidate on my Ballot

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2016!

Maybe one of us should change their name to that?

 ::hysterical::

What the eff, eh?  Self-identify! 

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 07, 2016, 07:44:44 AM
I don't think this article...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-foreign-idUSMTZSAPEC37O1O8W3 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-foreign-idUSMTZSAPEC37O1O8W3)

...is going to have the desired effect that the Progs at Reuters think it will have!

 ::rolllaughing::

Illegals are pouring over the unprotected border swelling the illegal population by millions and the reports of lawlessness and Fedcoat inaction in the face of foreign invaders is a daily event (http://www.abqjournal.com/735961/news/nm-ranchers-outraged-by-lack-of-security-at-border.html), sooner or later the lack of action is going to make people think they have nothing left to lose and they'll start killing these people.

Reuters and the rest of ProgNation and their idiot pals overseas might see unregulated borders and foreigners freewheeling through their nations and a really swell idea, but here I still think the majority of people see the insanity of the risks involved in letting criminals, terrorists and unassimilating hoards as a net drain on our lives, fortunes and prosperity.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 07, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Heard this clip on the drive in this morning...

http://iotwreport.com/excuse-me-bernie-snaps-at-hillary-during-debate/ (http://iotwreport.com/excuse-me-bernie-snaps-at-hillary-during-debate/)

..blind squirrel finds nut moment...

...but if anybody thinks either of these won't bleep us over in a heartbeat they are insane and/or a liar.

..but the masses are so bleeping stupid that either one could be President!

#IdiocracyShouldNotBeAnInstructionManual!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 07, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
Two points I think most people would agree with...

1)  Trump - Rubio should drop out so we can get on with the Trump vs Cruz showdown (http://www.weaselzippers.us/260270-trump-wants-cruz-one-on-one-says-rubio-should-drop-out-of-the-race/).

2)  Mr gNewt - Denying Trump the nomination if he has the delegates will lead to "civil war" (http://www.weaselzippers.us/260266-gingrich-contested-convention-would-bring-civil-war-to-gop/).

The first is a direct slap at the E-GOP's Plan B candidate since Plan A already pissed millions of Establishment dollars away in Epic Fail!TM fashion...and I think both Trump and Cruz would be pleased if it was just down to them.  The second is true, but I think it equally true that the Establishment doesn't GAFF.  And I think the former feeds into the latter, I think Trump's dismissal of the Establishment's Plan B candidate is another way of saying "Dick with me, destroy the party...see if I care?" kind of dare...

And am trying to see a reason to care...and I am not having any success...

Neither the Progs or the illegals or the muzzies are ever going to be effectively dealt with until the E-GOP is thrown onto the ash heap...

I see no reason to delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 07, 2016, 03:37:19 PM
A Trump/ Cruz showdown is the establishments worse nightmare. I do think they will broker the convention. Only if the establishment would have fought Obama with this type of vigor......
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 07, 2016, 05:32:48 PM
We've said it many times...we are a bigger enemy to them than the Dem's!

Well, they got that right...but I bet they didn't want us to know!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 07, 2016, 10:48:38 PM
There cannot be a "brokered convention" without a rule change and if they did that it would be a disaster for the party. I think they all know that. 

What may really happen is a contested convention. And only candidates who won eight states can compete in that. (They can no longer go outside the nominees, at least without a rule change, and they cannot even select Kasich or Rubio or even Cruz at this point, until he wins a couple more races. )

It is seriously down to either Trump or Cruz in the GOP or civil war. If the democracy portion of our republic is undermined, I think the fuse will be lit and there will be no stopping it. It only takes about 1/8th of the population to rise up to destabilize the union and it seems that I see MANY more than that.  Far better to let the voters have their way even if you think they are wrong. Surely the establishment (Both parties) sees that, right?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2016, 07:09:21 AM
Perhaps the Establishment no longer cares?  The DemonRats and their proportional allocation of delegates is where they want to drive the general election, they've said as much dozens perhaps hundreds of times over the years...they want to get rid of the Electoral College and let the corrupt system flourish unchecked and unaccountable...

The Establishment infested GOP, while not 100% contaminated like the DemonRats is still pretty rife with plenty of folks not willing to fight anything if the other team has the votes...so...

In the end, if this charade continues another decade...there will be nothing left to fight for in a polite sense...

And I think the E-GOP is under attack like never before...a Trump or Cruz only affair has to be driving them stark raving mad...and when you corner a rabid animal, the rabid animal will strike back...the only question is how?

I could see them rewrite the rules midstream, I could see them refuse to support their own party's nominee and throw their support behind the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi, I could see them support a third party candidate that basically ensures BBB wins...they would prefer anything to Trump or Cruz.

But everybody knows it is coming down to Trump or Cruz, so whatever the E-GOP does it is certain to destroy the GOP...we'll have to see if what they do kicks off anything larger than that.  The E-GOP's Plan B (from Florida) is crashing almost as fast as their Plan A (from Florida) went down and now some of his advisers are saying GTFO (before Florida!). (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/07/politics/marco-rubio-campaign-weighs-getting-out/index.html)

The E-GOP is going All-In! in Florida, so no way their guy bows out before that, but if that effort fails...both Rubio and the E-GOP are finished...unless they opt for screwing with the convention or ignoring their party's nominee. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/seeing-trump-as-vulnerable-gop-elites-now-eye-a-contested-convention/2016/03/07/976d2c62-e487-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html)

And forget about Kasich, he isn't going to win much of anything.  But he'll get a speaking gig at the convention, which for reasons unknown to me are being held in Cleveland and look like they'll be the GOP's version of Chicago '68 (http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/03/cleveland_seeking_to_buy_riot.html), and I think the importance of Ohio is overrated anyway...they are a warmer Minnesota is all...elect the odd Establishment Pubbie or a DemonRat...like Minnie at best they are a Purple state...

This Silly Season is shaping up to be one of the biggest epic fails one way or another...

And I think all the E-GOP chickens are coming home to roost!

Like Rhett said to Scarlett...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 08, 2016, 10:38:41 AM
I saw Tucker Carlson (Grrrrr!) make an outrageous statement, or at least outrageous in my opinion.that no matter the rules, if the person who won the most delegates entering the convention did not win the nomination then there would be a walk-out and it would be in effect illegitimate.

it is entirely possible as close as it looks like this might get, that no one has the required votes for a win on the first ballot. Then some delegates will HAVE to change their votes. If Cruz took Rubio as his VP and the combined delegates voted together, it seems to me that would be a totally legitimate win.  The team with the most delegates would win.  I know this is all hypothetical at this point, but how could anyone say that a win by the rules is not a legitimate win?

Would any of us feel that "Trump was ripped off!" if that scenario unfolded?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
You know what they say about assumptions...

So, having posted the disclaimer...

If in fact those three are in effect in a virtual three way tie, sure...two tag-teaming the other out...while somewhat uncouth and craven...would be within the rules but I don't think it is fair to say the person being tossed aside (whoever it may be) or their supporters have no cause to bitch.  But who is to say Cruz picks Rubio (I see that as doubtful)...what if it is Rubio picking Cruz (I see that as doubtful too)...or what if it is Trump choosing one of the other two?  I could see him taking Rubio, after all if certain pundits are correct and Trump is a closet Dem or no better than a stealth Establishment operative...Rubio makes more sense than Cruz, right?

More twists?  OK, how about if Trump is clearly ahead, but 100-200 delegates short of sewing it up...what if he gets a third tier candidate like Kasich who inexplicably is saying he is in it to the end and gets his delegates for the VP slot...how would that go over?

Also, we are talking about delegates...people...once in a convention and all this horse-trading goes on...how many are going to be able to stick with their choice if their candidate sells out to someone they cannot stomach?

Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 08, 2016, 04:26:04 PM
You know what they say about assumptions...

So, having posted the disclaimer...

So stipulated.



If in fact those three are in effect in a virtual three way tie, sure...two tag-teaming the other out...while somewhat uncouth and craven...would be within the rules but I don't think it is fair to say the person being tossed aside (whoever it may be) or their supporters have no cause to bitch.  But who is to say Cruz picks Rubio (I see that as doubtful)...what if it is Rubio picking Cruz (I see that as doubtful too)...or what if it is Trump choosing one of the other two?  I could see him taking Rubio, after all if certain pundits are correct and Trump is a closet Dem or no better than a stealth Establishment operative...Rubio makes more sense than Cruz, right?

Absolutely could happen, But my point is that this would be within the rules and claiming it is unfair is foolish and stupid to boot.



More twists?  OK, how about if Trump is clearly ahead, but 100-200 delegates short of sewing it up...what if he gets a third tier candidate like Kasich who inexplicably is saying he is in it to the end and gets his delegates for the VP slot...how would that go over?

Just the way the game is played under the rules.



Also, we are talking about delegates...people...once in a convention and all this horse-trading goes on...how many are going to be able to stick with their choice if their candidate sells out to someone they cannot stomach?

This is why organization matters. Making sure it is really your supporters put into the delegate slots matters. Without that, it is truly an open game and a whole new election. It is the same reason we do not just vote party lines, but try to vote for US Representatives who think like we do. (Tough to find and tougher to hold them to it.) In the end what they truly believe in will matter most because they will be on their own and under party pressure.



Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

We always have flawed candidates. That is the nature of electing human beings. We are all flawed and make decisions that will not please everyone all the time. But, this is not an establishment situation, really. This is an anti-establishment conservative and a populist running. One knows the rules and how to use them, the other complains and threatens law suits and third parties and such. To me, the rules are the rules. We should all live by them or not play.




I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 ::popcorn::

I suspect you are right there. Which will mean a Hillary administration. But, I do not have to like it. And I do not. It may even mean war and I do not like that either.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on March 08, 2016, 07:57:50 PM
  The establishment will bow down and kiss the ring of whoever gets nominated.  They will have to hope to God the they don't get primaries once Trump or Cruz get in the WH.  Remember who will control the money.  After some of the comments made and having Mittens come out to do their dirty work they have a lot to worry about if and when it all blows up in their collective faces.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 09, 2016, 07:32:32 AM


Plus, just to be pest...how about all the other years where the poohbahs come forth and announced "it is time to get behind the leader and get on to the general election without any more internal bloodshed"...that is what stuck us with flawed candidates in the past...the old rally-around-the-establishment game...what happened to that?  Oh, yeah...it works only for certain types...

We always have flawed candidates. That is the nature of electing human beings. We are all flawed and make decisions that will not please everyone all the time. But, this is not an establishment situation, really. This is an anti-establishment conservative and a populist running. One knows the rules and how to use them, the other complains and threatens law suits and third parties and such. To me, the rules are the rules. We should all live by them or not play.




I think a train-wreck is almost a sure thing...the establishment will wreak havoc upon the GOP and nothing can stop it...

 ::popcorn::

I suspect you are right there. Which will mean a Hillary administration. But, I do not have to like it. And I do not. It may even mean war and I do not like that either.

I don't disagree with any of that with the following clarifications ...

Regarding the rules...I would postulate that by adhering to them is one of the reasons why conservatives have failed to win a single contest these past 32 years.  It is the same dynamic in Pubbies playing by the rules in the face of Democrat chicanery, lies and outright cheating.  I know the age old debate, we are better than they, shouldn't stoop to their level, two wrongs don't make a right...but Pubbies treat the conservatives the same way Democrats treat everybody else who isn't them.  I believe there are plenty of examples in the bible where sabotage, subterfuge and yes even lies were used by God's people to acquire the land God promised them and to keep it...and when they failed to live up to their end of the deal God used their enemies to punish them.  We are in the punishment phase right now...we are being punished by our enemies and by those who are nominally our allies.  I would argue we should be in a reconquest mode, drive the false idols and Pharisees from our midst and reclaim that which is ours...by whatever means necessary.

And to the last point, if war is what it takes, we should be steeling ourselves for it, not fear it and do nothing.  If it be God's Will, so be it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 09, 2016, 07:42:24 AM
  The establishment will bow down and kiss the ring of whoever gets nominated.  They will have to hope to God the they don't get primaries once Trump or Cruz get in the WH.  Remember who will control the money.  After some of the comments made and having Mittens come out to do their dirty work they have a lot to worry about if and when it all blows up in their collective faces.

You have a good heart my friend...but the Establishmentarians do not...they will scorch the ground clean before bowing to Trump or Cruz...I have severe reservations as to their sanity...they have the elitist mentality, the unshakable belief that they are all that is standing between life as we know it and the abyss.  But the abyss is coming...slow or fast...and they think slow is better.  Slow will only make the pain exponentially worse.  Life as we know it is a chimera, a charade...underneath the thin layer of tranquility and prosperity is a deep layer of seething angst and roiling misery...stoked by the envy and hatred of class and racial demonization spewed by Progs and the greed and fecklessness of Ruling Class Pubbies and Crony Capitalists...when this caldera reaches critical mass...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 09, 2016, 07:55:28 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2585309 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2585309)

Trump calls for people to rally around him.  If this was Bush or Rubio the E-GOP would agree...but that's not going to happen.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senator-record-number-of-minors-set-to-flood-the-southern-border/article/2585215 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senator-record-number-of-minors-set-to-flood-the-southern-border/article/2585215)

Rubio & Kasich in trouble in their own backyards...

This is really sending the cronies into a headless chicken dance...



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: rustybayonet on March 09, 2016, 08:19:25 AM
Read this months ago and don't remember if it was posted, but it is having more and more impact as the primaries continue, so I feel it's worth the read or re-read  --- As in the forward Bennett said he never penned the enclosed letter, and doesn't know who the author is, but presently the way the 'power brokers' in the both parties have been reacting, I wouldn't put anything past them.  As for my disclaimer, I'm not a Trump fan, but anything would be better than the hilldabeast, and four more years of the pi*s poor Obummer fiasco.


www.truthorfiction.com/bill-bennett-theyd-kill-trump-before-they-let-him-be-president/ (http://www.truthorfiction.com/bill-bennett-theyd-kill-trump-before-they-let-him-be-president/)


Apologies for the long post - Administration feel free to leave or remove at your discretion.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 10, 2016, 07:20:09 AM
I can believe that, and for many reasons, some the same, both would probably rather see Cruz killed too. The E-GOP want somebody who can be controlled, the Dem's want their fellow traveller and if they can't have that they'd tolerate an establishment enemy who will capitulate on key issues...neither want a principled conservative or an uncontrolled rogue.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Perfect.

Describes the moonbat free-sh*t left to a "T"!

(http://11886-presscdn-0-22.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/OnXbT3u.jpg)

H/T - IOTW
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2016, 07:17:24 AM
Another good one via WRSA -

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/25504659265_07ffba19db_o.jpg)

H/T Banzai
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2016, 07:29:49 AM
Of course The Cube strikes gold again -

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/37707-Bernie_Half_Sign_2.jpg)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 12, 2016, 10:48:21 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418998/real-primary-cthulhu-v-smod-jonah-goldberg (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418998/real-primary-cthulhu-v-smod-jonah-goldberg)

Quote
Dollars do not have any inherent value; as my favorite presidential candidate, the mighty Cthulhu (“Why Vote for a Lesser Evil?”) put it, dollars are merely “pieces of green paper backed solely by religious dogma.” (Cthulhu’s fiscal policy? “He permits his devotees to collect as much paper in as many colors as they happen to like.”). . . .

Quote
Smod describes himself as a “pre-cambrian conservative.” He has no cultists looking to rule in his name. He doesn’t endorse evil, merely the sweet release of planetary destruction. While Cthulhu can be a bit of windbag, Smod makes no speeches, he makes no sounds at all as he glides through the cosmic ether. Calvin Coolidge looks loquacious by comparison. Meanwhile, Cthulhu’s will is unpredictable, he vows chaos and anarchy here on earth. Smod provides what the market demands: certainty, predictability, and simple rules for a complex society. Who knows what Cthulhu will do tomorrow? With Smod there is no tomorrow. He has the single-minded focus only a cold and soulless inanimate object can provide.

I apologize if this already made the rounds.. first time I saw it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 12, 2016, 11:26:33 AM
I hadn't seen it, so, thank you.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 12, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
I've read the debates here, the for Trump, the against Trump, what he would be...what he might do. How he might lead, yada, yada, yada..... here's why I will support a Trump Presidency if it come to it.

After watching the Trump campaign shut down a rally in the hellhole known a Chicago because we have disruptive left wing nut jobs, true hate filled psychopaths, most likely bought and paid for by the democratic party. I've watched barack Obama divide this country like no other, I've watched representatives of the United States die because the democratic party allowed them to, dragged thru the streets of foreign lands...I've watched the IRS become a weapon, I've watched weapons, literally, be given to mexico, our military gutted, NASA turned into a muslim love fest, apology tours, concensus science, I've watched the Constitution shredded. I could go on forever and speak on what I've witnessed the last few years. I've also watched the republican party do nothing because I believe they are complicit to this countries issues.

So if a Trump presidency does nothing else but bring all this to the surface, like a huge, festering boil and allows us to deal with it like I believe it will need to be dealt with, it will be an unmitigated success. I can live with any other issues which may result in his presidency but I can't live with what is happening today.

This may be THE defining moment in our history because I have no faith in either party and when this happens, it is usually the individual igniting a change of course of history. Frankly, it's what we've witnessed in an Obama presidency. What I don't see is a Cruz, Rubio, etc really changing the dynamic of this country. Or this planet.

I see it, right or wrong, as our countries last gasp.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 12, 2016, 03:21:16 PM
I too may hold my nose and vote Trump.....if I have no other viable choice.......but, while watching him give a speech with the volume turned down......the idiotic statements....the wild crowd applause at nothing.....the over dramatic flair.....I thought......there is a huge difference between him and old Adolph in their speeches.......


Adolph did not have extra-firm-hold hairspray.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 12, 2016, 05:32:26 PM
Not funny, the Trump > Hitler/Trump > Stalin implications.  Hadn't you had enough of that crap coming from the Left about GW Bush?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on March 12, 2016, 09:28:23 PM
Not funny, the Trump > Hitler/Trump > Stalin implications.  Hadn't you had enough of that crap coming from the Left about GW Bush?

Political projection. They KNOW they're the ones wishing to raise a "generation of young people devoid of conscience - imperious, relentless and cruel" [Hitler]  - because that 's the ONLY framework in which their agenda of murder, perversion and stripped-bare freedom can thrive.

#SecondAmendmentSolutions
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 12, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
GWB was one of the most inarticulate people to ever hold the presidency. And yet, he could still articulate why we should do certain things. He made an intellectual appeal. And he was relatively successful.

The comparison of him to Hitler is ridiculous. There is no appeal based purely on emotion. No appeal based on race. No appeal based on anything but the facts as he knew them.

Trump has made no intellectual appeal in his run. He is perfectly comfortable saying contradictory things to one audience after another. And he thinks we are too stupid to notice,  because his appeal is purely emotional. He is the very definition of a demagogue.

"Experience taught me a few things. One is to listen to your gut, no matter how good something sounds on paper. The second is that you're generally better off sticking with what you know. And the third is that sometimes your best investments are the ones you don't make."  I wish Trump had said THIS sort of thing while running for President. What Trump actually says is much more simple and emotional than that. He is making vague statements and a lot of "believe you me"'s and "trust me" and other stuff which adds nothing to the evidence.

There is no explanation of him being on all sides of every issue and his giving to everyone, including Hillary, Kerry, Mondale, Carter, etc.....except to say that is how it is done.

It is a purely emotional appeal. I realize some disqualify accurate comparisons simply because they use a certain person, but that does not make them less accurate. There is something in this man that triggers fear in me.  I see no moral center. I see a hunger for power and control, without a recognition of the rule of law or even an appeal to our intellect. 

It is true, I have acknowledged, that I may have to vote for him, not because I believe in him, for I do not, but because he is not Hillary. I KNOW she is evil. I am simply stating I see a pattern I do not trust in Donald Trump.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 12, 2016, 10:22:23 PM
Fine; see what you see.  But the overblown comparisons are, frankly, ridiculous at this point.  Convenient rationalizations for Bush=not okay/Trump=ok are just that.  IIRC, such was said about Reagan, too, so it's trite as well.

Look, CHF; chances are Trump will get the nomination and, if he does, he needs to beat Hillary.  Period.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 12, 2016, 11:11:28 PM
I am soooo tired of hearing "that I can tell you" when he told me nothing in the first place. Just vague stuff. Yes, he TOTALLY has the "Okay, he's not Hillary" vote locked up if it comes to it. I just hope it does not come to it. He leaves me with an uneasy feeling in my gut.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 12, 2016, 11:36:44 PM
Okay, I do get it.  I do.  But "Hitler/Stalin" just causes people to knee-jerk to his defense.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 13, 2016, 08:27:39 PM
Okay, I do get it.  I do.  But "Hitler/Stalin" just causes people to knee-jerk to his defense.
Knee jerk? If they had a clue as to the parallels we are to Germany and Italy of that same era then perhaps they would understand. Hitler/Stalin were very bad players in History and that's all they understand. They never look past anything past he surface. I won't claim Trump is as dark a soul as Hitler or Stalin, probably closer to Mussolini or that Chilean guy as fascists. As a fascist or nationalist I want none of it. Will I vote for him in the pinch against Hitlery? Nope. I'll stay home and load ammo.

If you don't want Clinton they they best makes sure Trump isn't opposing her. Besides, besides both are indistinguishable from the other. Natural rights never enter either's minds nor campaign. As we keep reminding each other, the country is screwed,  the Republic is DEAD. The mindless drones that inhabit her borders simply don't care unless it has something to do with the f**king handouts they receive.  ::deercorn::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 13, 2016, 09:15:08 PM
Oh fer crissake.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 13, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
If they had a clue as to the parallels we are to Germany and Italy of that same era then perhaps they would understand. Hitler/Stalin were very bad players in History and that's all they understand. They never look past anything past he surface. I won't claim Trump is as dark a soul as Hitler or Stalin, probably closer to Mussolini or that Chilean guy as fascists. As a fascist or nationalist I want none of it. Will I vote for him in the pinch against Hitlery? Nope. I'll stay home and load ammo.

TPTB have recreated the same circumstances here that lead to the rise of Hitler there. Is Trump the second coming of   Hitler? Who the hell knows. I  doubt it, but I wouldn't  exclude it from the realm of possibility.  Will the American people vote him absolute power to "fix things"  just as the Germans did? Probably. And George Washington he isn't. Very few men can put down the reins of power once offered and received.  There is such a thing as a good King, a benevolent dictator. The problem is and always been the selection process for such an office.  This C.S. Lewis quote is ever before my eyes

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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

I am pretty certain Trump will be the Robber Baron type. Hooray for us.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 14, 2016, 06:34:08 AM
This is an interesting read. Cruz has a better shot than even I thought, if Trump can be held below 1237, and preferably held below 1050, which is achievable.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/republican-contention-chaos-213725 (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/republican-contention-chaos-213725)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 14, 2016, 07:50:25 AM
Numbers fantasies always amuse me...soon though time compression will render fantasies moot...as is with most fantasies the idea is more entertaining than the reality...

I like SMOD, I favored SMOD long ago, nobody can argue they are more egalitarian or more consistent than SMOD.

But, I think SMOD is also a tease...will probably just sail past and show us his dark side in salute as we are left to our own fate...

I can only hope if Trump is the nominee he wins the general and acts like SMOD for four years...

That at least might have some benefit...

And there is the entertainment factor...  The Left thought it so swell and in-your-face to stick us with Stymie...I have to admit that a certain perverse right-back-at-ya element is not the least bit attractive...

Anyway...in terms of the end-game I don't think it matters much...people should do whatever trips their trigger...

But yes, I agree with Pan...all the Hitler/Stalin crap has to end...bad enough I have to hear that mindlessly spewed by hollow-headed progs...time for a refresher on Reagan's 11th Commandment...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 14, 2016, 09:13:48 AM
Numbers fantasies always amuse me...soon though time compression will render fantasies moot...as is with most fantasies the idea is more entertaining than the reality...

I like SMOD, I favored SMOD long ago, nobody can argue they are more egalitarian or more consistent than SMOD.

But, I think SMOD is also a tease...will probably just sail past and show us his dark side in salute as we are left to our own fate...

I can only hope if Trump is the nominee he wins the general and acts like SMOD for four years...

That at least might have some benefit...

And there is the entertainment factor...  The Left thought it so swell and in-your-face to stick us with Stymie...I have to admit that a certain perverse right-back-at-ya element is not the least bit attractive...

Anyway...in terms of the end-game I don't think it matters much...people should do whatever trips their trigger...

But yes, I agree with Pan...all the Hitler/Stalin crap has to end...bad enough I have to hear that mindlessly spewed by hollow-headed progs...time for a refresher on Reagan's 11th Commandment...
I to wouldn't mind the stick into he eyes of the progs tat stuck us with the Kenyan but am only partially convinced he would carry out what we would like to see done...prosecutions of current regime personel. I'm getting older as we all are and I'm no where close to having a an egg to retire on. If I must suffer seven years of disaster I want to see them suffer the same fate or worse.

On the other hand, I have to consider my children and I want them to inherit the Liberty that was taken from me by the socialists in the last century. I trust Cruz to take us down that path a bit more than Dancing around the issues Don Trump and his vague answers to the nation's illness. Liberty must be the focus of any future administration or we'll be right back in chains as we are now. If people cannot understand the loss of Liberty is directly proportionate to economic prosperity then we are finished. Yes, I know, we are finished already.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 14, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
What must happen is a revolution or civil war destroying the left and their oligarch right or we'll repeat everything within the next cycle. ::laserkill::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 14, 2016, 09:33:48 AM
I am soooo tired of hearing "that I can tell you" when he told me nothing in the first place. Just vague stuff. Yes, he TOTALLY has the "Okay, he's not Hillary" vote locked up if it comes to it. I just hope it does not come to it. He leaves me with an uneasy feeling in my gut.

They all leave me feeling that way. I don't trust any of them. It's just that there are some constants in this that you can count on. You can count on bernie being an imbecile. You can count of hildebeast being a crook. You can count on all of the pubbies (sans Trump) being sellouts. And you can count on Trump being a disappointment.

There are no good choices - only a series of increasingly bad ones.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 14, 2016, 11:41:27 AM
This 'dot's the i" in O-h-i-o...

http://toprightnews.com/this-stunning-letter-from-bill-clinton-could-cost-john-kasich-the-ohio-primary/ (http://toprightnews.com/this-stunning-letter-from-bill-clinton-could-cost-john-kasich-the-ohio-primary/)

...and the "i" in Kas-i-ch's run...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 14, 2016, 01:11:42 PM
At least this election cycle is bringing everything out in the open. The democratic party is nothing like the days of Kennedy and the republicans are nothing like the days of RR. The only difference is the dem supporters are a bunch of stupidity and don't understand how their party has changed. At least, on the surface, conservatives may be waking up.

I wish I thought Cruz could make a difference.....I think he would be destroyed by the hildabeast. At least Trump won't be destroyed because he will fight back and fight dirty. Heck, I've always wanted a candidate who would play on their level. I have it and while my principles make me cringe, I believe it is our only hope of winning an election.....Then lets hope Trump lives up to the rhetoric.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 14, 2016, 09:52:27 PM
Not funny, the Trump > Hitler/Trump > Stalin implications.  Hadn't you had enough of that crap coming from the Left about GW Bush?

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/03/14/random-thoughts-on-the-current-chaos-n2132949 (http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/03/14/random-thoughts-on-the-current-chaos-n2132949)

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. “A lot of my pals are #NeverTrump. Their arguments are sound, and don’t look to me to argue that they should vote for a Dem-donating, vulgar liar with Consistency Deficit Disorder other than to say I will if he’s the nominee because he’s better than the evil Democrats. But this Nazi-slur crap has to stop. If you really think a substantial portion of the conservative-leaning segment of the American people are active fascists, then you may as well give up now. And I refuse to get the sads when a dude in a John Deere cap who probably got shot at in Fallujah smacks some commie creep who crashes a Trump rally to set fire to Old Glory.”

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 14, 2016, 10:16:21 PM
'Zackly what I'm saying.

Thanks, W.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 15, 2016, 07:34:55 AM
Some turd-sucking foreign rag posted more Hitler/Mussolini crap about Trump, won't give the Progtards the satisfaction of posting their hate-fueled dreck.  Suffice it to say I've had more than a belly-full of their lies. 

And is always the case, we only find out after the fact just how active Obama's ilk are neck deep in the Chitcago affair (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/chicago-cop-blog-says-that-protests-at-weekend-trump-rally-far-worse-than-reported/), and I would suspect the shot-callers in this century-run Prog hell-hole were purposely endangering their own troops by allowing such an uncoordinated presence...Prog Poohbah's from O'Bunghole on down wanted mayhem, wanted lawlessness and wanted to gin up racial hatred, and blame it on Trump and racist whites, period.  It is the only meme allowed in state-run media.

And I hope Gov. Moonbeam isn't talking out his ass as usual, this time I hope the idiot means it, (http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article66095977.html) we might just keep more illegals in that sh*thole and away from the rest of us!

And if this has any truth to it at all (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-cruz-finds-new-allies-in-gop-establishment-he-rails-against/2016/03/14/a73d3486-e8a9-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html), then the Establishment really is in full-blown panic mode.  But I suspect it is an isolated event at best.  Even if Cruz went on a run it would be hard to catch Trump, and the Establishments only hope is to get delegates to flip and kick off the real bloodbath.

And who knew the Mariana's were so overrun with white racists? (http://www.weaselzippers.us/261747-trump-wins-northern-mariana-islands-caucus/) I bet state-run media doesn't even mention it.

And it's not like Mr Cruz isn't avoiding dirty tricks...his campaign lawyer has just been exposed as the man behind the Citizen Super PAC's attack ad comparing Trump to Hitler. (http://iotwreport.com/pac-creates-a-political-ad-likening-trump-to-hitler-who-is-behind-the-super-pac/)  So once again, a nominal conservative and somebody we thought was one of us has to resort to DemonRat style dirt.  Maybe that's why some Establishment types like him?

Cleveland might just be ground zero of the Great Reckoning.

Fine with me, I'm not getting any younger...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 15, 2016, 07:54:18 AM
This 'dot's the i" in O-h-i-o...

http://toprightnews.com/this-stunning-letter-from-bill-clinton-could-cost-john-kasich-the-ohio-primary/ (http://toprightnews.com/this-stunning-letter-from-bill-clinton-could-cost-john-kasich-the-ohio-primary/)

...and the "i" in Kas-i-ch's run...

Wow, more stupid from Little Johnnie...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/261708-romney-to-hit-campaign-trail-with-kasich-in-ohio/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/261708-romney-to-hit-campaign-trail-with-kasich-in-ohio/)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/261660-watch-kasich-goes-all-in-promises-amnesty-in-first-180-days-in-office/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/261660-watch-kasich-goes-all-in-promises-amnesty-in-first-180-days-in-office/)

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/03/14/john-kasich-goes-all-in-for-amnesty-illegals-made-in-the-image-of-the-lord/ (http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/03/14/john-kasich-goes-all-in-for-amnesty-illegals-made-in-the-image-of-the-lord/)

It's hard to tell which is the bigger kiss of death...but this clown is the biggest gaff-machine to hit politics since Stymie!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 15, 2016, 09:02:14 AM


  Glenn Reynolds says " I’ve got nothing in particular against Rubio except that he let Chuck Schumer snooker him on immigration, but I keep hearing what a great candidate he is, and he keeps sucking in the actual votes."

Yeah, being Snookered is enough. Add to that jumping on the eGOPs call to blame Trump for his rallies being attacked.

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"I wouldn’t say Mr. Trump is responsible for the events of tonight," said Rubio, "but he is most certainly, in other events, has in the past used some pretty rough language, saying in the good old days we used to beat these people up, or I’ll pay your legal bills if you rough them up. So I think he bears some responsibility for the general tone."
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/11/cruz-and-rubio-criticize-trump-for-creating-environment-for-chicago-protest/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/11/cruz-and-rubio-criticize-trump-for-creating-environment-for-chicago-protest/))

He isn't responsible for 1000s of leftists disrupting  his event, but he is responsible for his "tone" which incites 1000s of leftists to disrupt the event. 

and then add this assertion that Trump "beats up" hecklers..https://www.rt.com/viral/335553-rubio-heckler-florida-trump/ (https://www.rt.com/viral/335553-rubio-heckler-florida-trump/)


But , but, but Rubio is the second Coming of Ronald Reagan.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/rubio-ranks-only-behind-reagan-as-a-conservative-communicator (http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/rubio-ranks-only-behind-reagan-as-a-conservative-communicator)

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’ve always believed, going back to Reagan, that a true conservative could still win in our liberal culture and simultaneously persuade and teach non-conservatives that conservatism was the best philosophy to bring about human flourishing.

Reagan was tough and a populist but, paradoxically, he was conciliatory and cosmopolitan (the toughness was reserved for adversaries, not the public). He won over Americans by the force of his charm, and then persuaded them that his philosophy was correct. He was utterly decent, utterly defensible and utterly likable.

Why did this matter? You’ve got to understand that for my entire life, conservatism has had a bad rap. The perception has that we are mean, evil, or even racist. That’s not who I am, and that’s not what the conservatism I grew up with is. And that’s not who Reagan was, either. And I’ve always believed that dispelling this myth about the “evil, racist, Republican” was at least one of the important functions of a conservatism that wanted to grow..... Rubio, like Reagan, has the potential to not just win the election, but also to win the argument. He has the rhetorical chops and eloquence to teach Americans why conservatives are not defined by the negative stereotypes.

No. Moron. The left controls the Journalistic establishment- and far more now than they did with Reagan.  You will ALWAYS be portrayed as mean, evil and racist - NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH IS, because the Left has given up even trying to maintaining  the appearance they are reasonable people concerned with the truth. If you could resurrect Regan and run him now, he could probably win the nomination. Maybe even the Presidency. And YOU and HE would still be called mean, evil, racist, and stupid. There is no argument to win because the left won't engage the argument. And the 40%  in the middle just want to get back to watching Cat videos and Kardashian  rump. They don't care about the argument either. We do not need another eloquent quisling to pretend to be conservative.


Meanwhile Allahpundit is whining that if Trump controls the party then it might be destroyed!
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/14/rubio-there-will-be-a-reckoning-for-conservatives-who-support-trump/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/14/rubio-there-will-be-a-reckoning-for-conservatives-who-support-trump/)

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What he says here about a “reckoning” for pro-Trump conservatives is something I hear all the time from righties on social media, incidentally. “We’re making a list!” they cry, naming all of the so-called movement conservatives who have embraced their inner nationalist this year and clambered aboard the Trump train. Fantasies of recriminations against the traitors will keep you warm on those cold, solitary nights in the wilderness, but are they realistic? David Frum warns righties that if they’re thinking Trump will merely “borrow” the GOP this fall and then return it after he loses, they’re delusional.......A member of the RNC’s Rules Committee is already circulating a letter suggesting, contra all available evidence, that delegates are not bound on the first ballot and haven’t been in 40 years. The price of stealing the nomination from Trump after he’s supposedly clinched it would be sky high. It would delegitimize the RNC; it would vindicate Trumpists’ criticism that the establishment is corrupt and that the system is rigged; it would certainly doom the GOP’s chances in the general election as millions of Trump fans decide to stay home or vote third-party in protest;

and Frum says

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A “true conservative” independent race for president may offer anti-Trump Republicans a way to vote their consciences without endorsing Hillary Clinton. But it may also expose “true conservatism” as a smaller factor in U.S. presidential politics than it’s been regarded as since the advent of the Tea Party.


Someone needs to send these guys a copy of the memo. The death of the GOP is what is desired.  Trump is SMOD. He is the destroyer  chosen to annihilate the lefty supporting group of quisling collaborators and traitors that is the eGOP.  Trump isn't being embraced because of his "nationalist"  message (there is a message?) but because he is NOT eGOP. He is establishment Democrat! - and if that doesn't destroy the party I don't know what will. And it needs to be destroyed , because we can't move forward without an organization that stands for traditional American values (rule of law, individual liberty, limited govt)  to hold the line on Capitol Hill.  It will probably come too late, or not at all, but for those holding out ope for a political solution, the dead of the eGOP is the only way forward. I may not be a Frum "True Conservative" -because I don't believe capitulation to the enemy is a virtue- but given the last 20 years of history,  that is what the  eGOP represents'. What - in their own minds, do the eGOP they think they stand for?

Vote GOP because we aren't racist! Vote GOP because sometimes we kinda sorta old the line on liberty when it isn't politically inconvenient or too much work. Vote GOP because sometimes we shake our finger and say tisk tisk at the blatant lies and cheating of the Democrats without actually, you know, doing anything to prosecute them for it.


 

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 15, 2016, 09:47:52 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/03/15/draft-n2133589?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/03/15/draft-n2133589?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=)

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There is a reason why polls repeatedly show Donald Trump producing the highest negative reactions of any candidate of either party. Yet the small hard core of Trump supporters seem oblivious to his antics, his recklessness and his all-consuming ego.

Some of these supporters may simply not be paying careful attention. But there have also been some very knowledgeable and intellectually talented people who have backed Trump. Sometimes it takes a high IQ to evade the obvious.

What does Trump offer his supporters that makes them so willing to overlook so much? He boldly articulates the resentment and anger they feel at having been betrayed by smug elites in general and the Republican establishment in particular.

Charismatic leaders who articulated the just grievances of the people have often risen to power on the basis of that talent alone. And those who put them in power have often paid a catastrophic price afterwards. That story was repeated in countries around the world in the 20th century.

Will that story be repeated in America in the 21st century? The vote on March 15, 2016 may give us a clue.

I think this is MOST of the reason you see the NAZI references popping up in regards to Trump. It is a fact that Hitler rose to power in this way.. and Trump is using rhetoric blaming immigrants for the nations problems so kinda sorta but not very much like Hitler with the Jews.   Jews weren't disobeying German laws and invading Germany illegally ( and they would have been fools to do so in that era)

Could Trump , using immigration as a cover,  implement a system of "papers please" gestapo checkpoints? Could he build a SS squad of "immigration enforcement" Nationwide and make midnight door busting raids to round up illegal immigrants a "normal thing"? Could this then morph - under Trump or a Future leader, into a system for repressing Americans in general - that anyone with a "drop of immigrant" in them being targeted as impure Americans ?  I think that is very unlikely. I do not think it impossible.

Hitler had Mien Kampf  - it was published in 1925/1926. As a German Citizen, you would have known, if you ad read it, just where Hitler intended to go with Germany.

Trump too has published books.
What do they say? (https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=books+by+donald+trump&oq=books+by+donald+trump&gs_l=hp.3..0l2j0i22i30l8.951.4256.0.4500.22.22.0.0.0.0.166.2125.7j11.18.0....0...1.1.64.hp..4.17.2025.0.5T0oQJg_M5g)

Mostly its how to make deals and make money. Some self affirmation. A couple of political plans Here is a nice summary (http://www.dailydot.com/politics/donald-trump-the-america-we-deserve/)
A confused mix of Liberals and conservative, which is what one would get if one were simply trying to get elected, if one's principles were about getting ahead and not right and wrong. And Yes, I think that is the focus of Trump's life --.  Hitler actually cared very little about economics in Germany. Trump I think would care more.  As narcissistic as Trump is, I don't think he would become another Hitler. But power corrupts. I can't say its impossible.

Point is, you are seeing the NAZI references, as unhelpful as they are, because of what could happen in these circumstances - because of historical echos - not because there is real evidence it will happen. I agree with Sowell, that Trump isn't serious enough or principled enough for the job, but  we have pretty poor choices. I don't even know that I could vote for Cruz now that he jumped on the blame Donald for exercising his 1st Amendment  Rights  with Bad Tone bandwagon. Obviously free speech isn't understood by Cruz either.

SMOD 2106

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on March 15, 2016, 10:53:16 AM
Nationalism is the only thing that can save the West at this point.  In my mind, nationalism trumps (pardon the irresistible pun) all other considerations.  The alternative is that we will be subsumed under the Third World, and at that point arguments over conservative bona fides will be nothing more than esoteric hypotheticals.

I do not want to end up like South Africa or Brazil, countries with a small elite that maintain enclaves of advanced civilization but only against a much larger Third World backdrop.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 15, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
The Progs and the Establishment enablers infesting the GOP and corporate America would ensure our future looks much worse than South Africa or Brazil!  Neither of them are (as yet) prostrating themselves before Islaminal filth and other unassimilating trash bent upon a parasitical conquest of the host!  We are on track for a cultural civil war that will make the breakup of Yugoslavia look like a picnic!  (Mostly because unlike other nations we have highly armed citizens not willing to be made the slaves of these savages)  Our only hope is to stem the influx of invaders and begin the expulsion starting with the most undesirable and radical elements.

To do otherwise is resigning to servitude and suicide.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 16, 2016, 07:00:10 AM
Trump sweeps FL, IL, NC and Kasich takes OH (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d34c4191f8674d908264b34620fce231/trump-eyes-stranglehold-gop-nomination), Rubio folds after FL loss, dealing the final blow to the E-GOP (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/03/15/marco-rubio-suspends-campaign-after-losing-florida/) and the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi knocks The Bern into the ditch. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democrats-220793)

There you have it people...Trump vs Clinton...

At least it looks that way going into Cleveland...

PS-Get used to seeing plenty of full-frontal Prog in the general election...

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Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 16, 2016, 10:00:13 AM
And now there are numbers to back up my assertions. Over 50% of this years GOP primary voters were NOT registered republicans last year.  (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/14/democrats-supporting-donald-trump-ohio-voters-dnt-savidge-erin.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/) 

WE have complained about the ratchet effect - where the Statist push something in  and then the eGOP holds the Status Quo until the anger wanes and everyone goes back to playing Candy Crush.  It was obvious that the eGOP was not going to be able to deliver on that promise, and that someone like Cruz would win the nomination ( and I think without Trump there, Cruz would have won given what we have seen - but enough of bizarro world.)   The TPTB couldn't have that..  so got Trump in to be the foil.  Trump is in with these same elitist circles. He has the ego to want to do it, the connections that could control him somewhat, and basically all they need is someone who isn't going to do squat to change anything - especially not Obamacare.  I think Trump  - who supported single payer until this election cycle - and who says its still a good idea for Scotland - just not America-- will do very little to affect the new Cloward-Piven nail in the economy. Trump is absorbing all of the anger Obama generated - ON both sides so he can ratchet this.


 And then there was the [ulr=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/23/this-is-the-height-of-laziness/]deliberate creation of an entire generation of precious self-righteous activist  snowflakes who value convenience above all else [/url]  to the point where washing a cereal bowl is too hard.  70%  weren't even asked to do chores as kids. An army of stupid, entitled SJWs eager to virtue signal, desperate to feel like they belong, driven by ego, and pathetically incapable of taking care of themselves.  Socialism is the only sort of system they can exist in. The only system that will allow them to survive (not thrive)  without a whole lot of effort - without actually doing a lot of work- a system where they can become "cool" by saying the right things and supporting the right "leaders"  Yes folks, they got their Hitler  youth generation, just add propaganda and State sponsored accountability. There  is a reason this cohort is baking Sanders. There is a reason they are attacking rallies like good little SS troops. They were BRED for that purpose.  They are the left's bulwark against any preference cascade to the right.

 I can't find any hard data, but you can bet that these Crossover Primary votes are OLDER democrats ( and the video serves as anecdotal evidence of this assertion) -- the Old School kind that have voted Democrat since the 60s and haven't taken a hard look at their party in 50 years - till the Obama disaster has forced them too. They do value freedom and gun ownership etc, and are just no waking up to the reality that the Democrats don't as the mask the Dems have been wearing has just fallen away more and more over the past 10 years.

IF they can hold the status quo for another 8 years , and arrange for boomer deaths via Obamacare/Medicaid  death panels. Or via a WMD that targets old and sick. A 1918 Flu virus would do the trick. The Left is back in charge with a dependent army ready to do their bidding without most of the  boomers around- and probably just for the promise of canceling their student loans. And so the only Americans left are Generation X and Y - and half of those are Liberal.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/172439/party-identification-varies-widely-across-age-spectrum.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/172439/party-identification-varies-widely-across-age-spectrum.aspx)

(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wt-ykjnhfuezhxsedgqldg.png)


If the economy had another 30 years in it  America would be full socialist and without a fight. I don't think it does - but the elites seem to be betting on a "hide the decline"  re branding of the falling standard of living as the new normal.(Tiny House! Tiny House!)  Readjusting  expectations. Avoiding a sudden and catastrophic monetary  collapse. Letting in massive wave of Immigration so there are people to actually do the work the millennials won't/can't  do.

The question, as always, is if they come for the guns and if so, when? Are we too old and too few to fight the wave of young barbarians they plan to  deliberately unleash upon us?  IN the end of course they loose, because  socialists ALWAYS loose. Reality always wins. . Poverty is spread equally,  but with the millennials bred to it, it probably won't bother them.  As long as everyone gets the new iPhone at the same time, there will be peace. It will probably be the one tech  industry that survives ( with government backing and control of course - its too powerful as a big brother surveillance tool and as bread and circus fodder) .

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 16, 2016, 12:05:53 PM
So are you saying the E-GOP had a hand in getting Democrats to come and vote in GOP primaries or not?  It has been their position for some time that a candidate that can best appeal to the broadest range is the most desirable kind of voter and they are convinced that only an Establishment candidate is even capable of pulling that trick off, not some big shot shoot-from-the-hip populist and certainly not some pain-in-the-ass principled conservative cowboy!  That this champion turned out to be an outsider nominally beyond their direct reach and not one of their favored chosen like the legacy (Bush) or Plan B (Rubio) who have failed in epic fashion is not the Democrats fault, it is not our fault...it is the E-GOP's fault, period.

And lets face it, as E-GOPer's have been ramming down our throats for 32 years..."This is the best we can do, there is nobody else...what are you going to do instead, vote for Hillary or some loser write-in without a chance?  Hold your nose and pull the lever for the GOP!"

And now after decades of excuses, broken promises and outright lies...the E-GOP's mantra is finally 100% true...this is the best they can do.

Been saying it quite a while now...our salvation is not through peaceful political means...the system is too polluted, corrupted and outright broken...there is no restoration of Liberty or Law, no return to Founding Principles and the God-given rights bestowed to us by Our Creator to be had from these latter day tyrants, fools and jesters.

Time to end it, you cannot mend it.  Time to end childish ways and accept reality.

Reality is coming...

And I have no fear of aging old hippies...an army of bed-wetting millenials...paper-pushing bureaucrats or any statist goon...

Plan accordingly and rejoice...the Reckoning draws near!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 16, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/03/15/draft-n2133589?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/03/15/draft-n2133589?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=)

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There is a reason why polls repeatedly show Donald Trump producing the highest negative reactions of any candidate of either party. Yet the small hard core of Trump supporters seem oblivious to his antics, his recklessness and his all-consuming ego.

Some of these supporters may simply not be paying careful attention. But there have also been some very knowledgeable and intellectually talented people who have backed Trump. Sometimes it takes a high IQ to evade the obvious.

What does Trump offer his supporters that makes them so willing to overlook so much? He boldly articulates the resentment and anger they feel at having been betrayed by smug elites in general and the Republican establishment in particular.

Charismatic leaders who articulated the just grievances of the people have often risen to power on the basis of that talent alone. And those who put them in power have often paid a catastrophic price afterwards. That story was repeated in countries around the world in the 20th century.

Will that story be repeated in America in the 21st century? The vote on March 15, 2016 may give us a clue.

I think this is MOST of the reason you see the NAZI references popping up in regards to Trump. It is a fact that Hitler rose to power in this way.. and Trump is using rhetoric blaming immigrants for the nations problems so kinda sorta but not very much like Hitler with the Jews.   Jews weren't disobeying German laws and invading Germany illegally ( and they would have been fools to do so in that era)

Could Trump , using immigration as a cover,  implement a system of "papers please" gestapo checkpoints? Could he build a SS squad of "immigration enforcement" Nationwide and make midnight door busting raids to round up illegal immigrants a "normal thing"? Could this then morph - under Trump or a Future leader, into a system for repressing Americans in general - that anyone with a "drop of immigrant" in them being targeted as impure Americans ?  I think that is very unlikely. I do not think it impossible.

Hitler had Mien Kampf  - it was published in 1925/1926. As a German Citizen, you would have known, if you ad read it, just where Hitler intended to go with Germany.

Trump too has published books.
What do they say? (https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=books+by+donald+trump&oq=books+by+donald+trump&gs_l=hp.3..0l2j0i22i30l8.951.4256.0.4500.22.22.0.0.0.0.166.2125.7j11.18.0....0...1.1.64.hp..4.17.2025.0.5T0oQJg_M5g)

Mostly its how to make deals and make money. Some self affirmation. A couple of political plans Here is a nice summary (http://www.dailydot.com/politics/donald-trump-the-america-we-deserve/)
A confused mix of Liberals and conservative, which is what one would get if one were simply trying to get elected, if one's principles were about getting ahead and not right and wrong. And Yes, I think that is the focus of Trump's life --.  Hitler actually cared very little about economics in Germany. Trump I think would care more.  As narcissistic as Trump is, I don't think he would become another Hitler. But power corrupts. I can't say its impossible.

Point is, you are seeing the NAZI references, as unhelpful as they are, because of what could happen in these circumstances - because of historical echos - not because there is real evidence it will happen. I agree with Sowell, that Trump isn't serious enough or principled enough for the job, but  we have pretty poor choices. I don't even know that I could vote for Cruz now that he jumped on the blame Donald for exercising his 1st Amendment  Rights  with Bad Tone bandwagon. Obviously free speech isn't understood by Cruz either.

SMOD 2106


If you changed just a few words.....If Trump built a conservative squad......Used the Constitution as cover.....checking for democratic papers.....blaming them for the nations issues.....and anyone with a drop of democrat in them were sent to the concentration camps known as states who have dem leadership. I'm all in.

And lets say Trump DID all those things.....still a hell of a lot better than liberal "leadership".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 16, 2016, 01:27:23 PM
So are you saying the E-GOP had a hand in getting Democrats to come and vote in GOP primaries or not?

I don't believe that, no.  I think the elite  Cabal of Powers that be,  that  runs both parties,  wanted Trump ( a life long left leaning elitist ) to run because no eGOP stooge could get the ratchet effect accomplished as desired, and the civil war as proceeding in the GOP  would result in a Cruz or a Carson being nominated. Trump was sent in to spoil that scenario and ensure a left-leaning, controllable,  status-quo maintainer was on the ballot against Hillary. (no, Bernie Sanders will not be the Democratic Nominee, and no Hillary will not be prosecuted by the Obama Justice Dept. He will instead hand her a Presidential   Pardon on Obama's  way out the door - if she is a good girl and obeys her daddy. ) 

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And lets face it, as E-GOPer's have been ramming down our throats for 32 years..."This is the best we can do, there is nobody else...what are you going to do instead, vote for Hillary or some loser write-in without a chance?  Hold your nose and pull the lever for the GOP!"

And now after decades of excuses, broken promises and outright lies...the E-GOP's mantra is finally 100% true...this is the best they can do.

Only they didn't do it. The Statists gave us Trump  - which granted is only possible via  GOP's complete  loss of credibility. I don't think the eGOP want Trump, because they understand they are being dealt off the table and handed their hats.  The Statist Powers that Be need a party to pretend to oppose them, to maintain the illusion of a two party system with choices  and a veneer of legitimacy, while also letting the society vent a little steam --- and since the current set of eGOP stooges couldn't get it done, they took matters into their own hands. The GOP is not the stupid party. They behave stupidly because it is their JOB to do so.

If Trump wins it will probably buy them another 8 years of kick the can. The economic situation might even improve ( by improve I mean, not get continually worse)  )  and we all get 8 years older, and they get 8 years more entrenched, while the anger and anxiety  burns off, so they can apply the leftward ratchet again without a full on civil war. 

There is much that could throw that plan into disarray - A North Korean Nuke, An Iranian Nuke, a Chinese invasion of Japan, A Join Russian/ISIS invasion of Europe or simply a real viable alternative to the dollar and economic collapse.  But very little of it will be under control of the powers that be.

Yes there will be a reckoning. I am just getting less hopeful of a good outcome. No one really wants the war -, just as no one wants the collapse of the dollar. But the longer either is delayed the worse things will become.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 16, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
If you changed just a few words.....If Trump built a conservative squad......Used the Constitution as cover.....checking for democratic papers.....blaming them for the nations issues.....and anyone with a drop of democrat in them were sent to the concentration camps known as states who have dem leadership. I'm all in.

And lets say Trump DID all those things.....still a hell of a lot better than liberal "leadership".

Sure. Do you actually see Trump doing those things - for either side?
 I don't. He isn't a true believer in anything but his own awesomeness.
He will hold, by and large, the Status Quo.  Better than Liberal leadership  e will probably be. That may be the worst thing for us at this point. If the Statists outlast us,  they win.  In 30 years this country will be demographically theirs, with a population ready to disarm and accept their yokes...a population like that in Europe...  and like Europe is today - we would become ripe for a full on invasion from foreign powers outside the Statist elite's control.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on March 16, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypUNffX_1YY#)

That's how you take on the trash of America.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 16, 2016, 06:00:24 PM
The demographic/illegal thing is where you lose me Weisshaupt...Trump's centerpiece is border security and kicking the foreign undesirables out...if he gets in and does the Establishment bidding he won't have 8 years, he'd be lucky to finish 4 while trying to qwell chaos...we would be closer to not farther from rebellion. The alternative is let Hillary in to go Order 66 and kick off the rebellion, something that might be desirable to cut to the chase but the preliminary act of getting that scum in is something I could not actively take a part in.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 16, 2016, 09:55:19 PM
The demographic/illegal thing is where you lose me Weisshaupt...Trump's centerpiece is border security and kicking the foreign undesirables out...if he gets in and does the Establishment bidding he won't have 8 years, he'd be lucky to finish 4 while trying to qwell chaos...we would be closer to not farther from rebellion. The alternative is let Hillary in to go Order 66 and kick off the rebellion, something that might be desirable to cut to the chase but the preliminary act of getting that scum in is something I could not actively take a part in.

Yeah, well,  think about DHS. Bush did that ...  If Trump creates or builds teams to bump the illegal immigrants out,  they will still be there to let in (if wanted) in 8 years.  And then there will be a whole new army of shock troops at the Statist's command, won't there be?  Trump himself may not abuse the power,  but the leftists would know JUST how to use troops trained in entering American suburbs, sweeping for and identifying individuals of interest and getting them on the right buses and cattle cars, wouldn't they? And of course any citizen verification system for employment would never be turned to bad purposes right?  Just like the no-fly lists would never be used to harass political enemies or be used to disarm people.
Trump could be a willing participant or just a gullible stooge while building this system. It wouldn't matter. After all, the American people are the ones demanding it....  The left always lets the right play National Defense. That way they can blame the bad stuff on them. It was Bush who started DHS. Its was Bush that got us involved in te Middle East.  It was Bush who allowed the Meta-Data collection. Its plausible deniability and its key to keeping the veneer of legitimacy.  The Left never builds the Deep state (or if they do, they do it with "bi-partisan" support)   - they activate it after its built and turn it to their purposes. The left that cried about the evils of the  Patriot act quietly let its renewal sail through the senate when they were in charge. Ultimately all such laws serve them, not We the People. And The longer they have to prepare and expand the police state apparatus - via thier own deeds or those of a willing Defense-minded stooge, , the more effective order 66 will be when finally given.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 17, 2016, 07:18:03 AM
The demographic/illegal thing is where you lose me Weisshaupt...Trump's centerpiece is border security and kicking the foreign undesirables out...if he gets in and does the Establishment bidding he won't have 8 years, he'd be lucky to finish 4 while trying to qwell chaos...we would be closer to not farther from rebellion. The alternative is let Hillary in to go Order 66 and kick off the rebellion, something that might be desirable to cut to the chase but the preliminary act of getting that scum in is something I could not actively take a part in.

Yeah, well,  think about DHS. Bush did that ...  If Trump creates or builds teams to bump the illegal immigrants out,  they will still be there to let in (if wanted) in 8 years.  And then there will be a whole new army of shock troops at the Statist's command, won't there be?  Trump himself may not abuse the power,  but the leftists would know JUST how to use troops trained in entering American suburbs, sweeping for and identifying individuals of interest and getting them on the right buses and cattle cars, wouldn't they? And of course any citizen verification system for employment would never be turned to bad purposes right?  Just like the no-fly lists would never be used to harass political enemies or be used to disarm people.
Trump could be a willing participant or just a gullible stooge while building this system. It wouldn't matter. After all, the American people are the ones demanding it....  The left always lets the right play National Defense. That way they can blame the bad stuff on them. It was Bush who started DHS. Its was Bush that got us involved in te Middle East.  It was Bush who allowed the Meta-Data collection. Its plausible deniability and its key to keeping the veneer of legitimacy.  The Left never builds the Deep state (or if they do, they do it with "bi-partisan" support)   - they activate it after its built and turn it to their purposes. The left that cried about the evils of the  Patriot act quietly let its renewal sail through the senate when they were in charge. Ultimately all such laws serve them, not We the People. And The longer they have to prepare and expand the police state apparatus - via thier own deeds or those of a willing Defense-minded stooge, , the more effective order 66 will be when finally given.

And here I thought my rants would be depressing people...thanks for letting me off the hook. 

Seriously though I think we are on the same page here...to think anybody, even the most perfect Liberty candidate getting in office and getting enough champions in Congress to get everything they wanted passed...even in that perfect scenario it would take probably 4 continuous terms of unimpeded action to roll back all of the rot and get to a point where one could have a reasonable amount of freedom restored.  Imagining that happening is really difficult seeing where we are now.  Perhaps if GHWB had't derailed the Reagan Revolution and Clinton and everybody that followed never happened there would have been a chance...

I think people know how impossible it is ever to get back what was lost, I don't think anybody beyond optimists on Prozac thinks it is even remotely possible.  Other people might not just give a damn out of despair or stupidity.  But we keep dancing around the time issue...some people want more time even if it means things break worse later than earlier, and I cannot discount their motivations (spouse/kids/not ready) but I think we have entered the period where everything is so stressed that the time compression is increasing...I am amazed and little bit freaked out by the amount of duress being absorbed, it cannot continue much longer no matter who is running the show.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 17, 2016, 09:19:56 AM

Seriously though I think we are on the same page here...to think anybody, even the most perfect Liberty candidate getting in office and getting enough champions in Congress to get everything they wanted passed...even in that perfect scenario it would take probably 4 continuous terms of unimpeded action to roll back all of the rot and get to a point where one could have a reasonable amount of freedom restored.  Imagining that happening is really difficult seeing where we are now.  Perhaps if GHWB had't derailed the Reagan Revolution and Clinton and everybody that followed never happened there would have been a chance...

It will take at least two terms to just establish a new party if History is any guide.  The GOP is gone, and can't be used as a vehicle anymore. And once in office? I don't know if 4 terms is enough, but I think a good start could b made..

But its  not just the political class that is rotten - its the culture itself. We are getting the leaders we deserve.  The Socialist rot the Soviets infected our culture with in the 60s took hold in the  soil of the the New Deal.  You can't undo half a century or more of cultural rot in anything less than a generation and that generation needs to be motivated - not brain-dead-ipad-zombies.

And then how to you motivate people like us - who feel there is no viable political solution and fear a massive economic collapse will inevitably occur before a political solution can be presented ?  How did the S. Hoyt's of the world - who think there is a viable political solution - respond to me when I said I didn't think there was-  they called me BLOODTHIRSTY and STUPID. Yeah, that will convince me there is still hope..  How are people like that going to give people like us  motivated to push for and build this new party? I don't think they can, and that will hamper that third party even more.  I can spend my life blood on a political solution I don't think will work, or I can use it on prepping for the disaster I am pretty certain is coming.  You are going to need a better argument than "bloodthirsty" if you are going to get me to spend my time and money on a political solution instead of doing what I can to aid my families survival.

I think people know how impossible it is ever to get back what was lost, I don't think anybody beyond optimists on Prozac thinks it is even remotely possible.  Other people might not just give a damn out of despair or stupidity.  But we keep dancing around the time issue...some people want more time even if it means things break worse later than earlier, and I cannot discount their motivations (spouse/kids/not ready) but I think we have entered the period where everything is so stressed that the time compression is increasing...I am amazed and little bit freaked out by the amount of duress being absorbed, it cannot continue much longer no matter who is running the show.

I could use more time. But so could the Tyrants, and probably more effectively. The more time passes the more the State will have under its control - the better tech they will have  - more shock troops - an electorate ever more brainwashed and un-American. Taking back what was lost can only be done via resistance now - how much and when is still in question, but you can bet it will be the Finicum's of the world  and not the S Hoyt's in their armchairs who decide. And yes I FULLY understand that this will start with 4th Gen tactics and political assassinations,  but it could escalate quickly  in a number of ways into a full blown blood bath  ( try to draft daughters for a war in the middle east, come for the guns, race war,  freeshyt army  riots) and revolutions rarely end the way one would want them.  The American revolution was extraordinary in that respect, and I ma not sure God smiles upon us the way he did once. But what choice will he have? Submit? Live Free or Die. And Dying isn't plan A.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 17, 2016, 10:15:53 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-16/will-trump-presidency-really-change-anything-better (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-16/will-trump-presidency-really-change-anything-better)

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If Trump does take such measures during his presidency, then he may be a president worth supporting, or even fighting for. If he pursues few or none of these measures, however, we can be relatively certain he is just another establishment puppet playing his part in the false left/right paradigm leading America toward oblivion.

Whatever Trump is, his popularity does indicate a rising tide of discontent within the U.S. The insane circus atmosphere of election 2016 is no coincidence; it is a perfect representation of the overflowing tensions that permeate our culture and are leading to potential earth shattering conflict. Keep in mind that America’s economic situation was already decided back in 2008 and will only become worse as we move into the election season. Whatever tensions we see now will only multiply as financial crisis becomes more apparent to the masses.

The idea that a Trump presidency will change much of anything is a rather farfetched one in my view. Trump’s popularity only suggests that people are seeking alternatives. The damage to America has for the most part already been done, and there will be no avoiding the consequences. That said, how we rebuild can still be determined. No political leader including Trump will ever be able to heal the American system or the American psyche, but the efforts of millions of independent and liberty minded Americans can. We have a long and terrible struggle ahead of us, but to look at it from an “optimistic” perspective, at least Americans are becoming sick of the status quo. That is a start.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 17, 2016, 11:07:05 AM
I don't know if any of you read Mark Alexander's Patriot Post newsletter.
If not, he is a true conservative in all ways that I found.

I saw this in today's email.

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Reality may be painful, but the first step toward mitigation is to confront the source. If there is anything the current election season has demonstrated beyond a doubt, it is that Americans have irreconcilable differences. The political Left and Right are worlds apart, and it appears that nothing — not even an existential threat to our way of life, be it terror, unrestrained illegal immigration, economic catastrophe or cultural disintegration — will elicit anything resembling a broad-based coalition to address the problem. Thus the nation is at a crossroad during a time when our leaders appear fundamentally incapable of bridging the ideological divide. Yet none of them ask the essential question: Why is it even necessary to do so?

We begin with the source of the division. One sentence from Ronald Reagan's First Inaugural Address says it all: "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." No one is naive enough to advocate the complete elimination of government. Yet there is government and there is big government. The most infuriating government is the sprawling, incompetent, ever-expanding bureaucratic sinkhole that emanates from Washington, DC.

The reason for this condition is simple: Americans have countenanced the evolution of an all-consuming federal leviathan, so removed from the original constraints of the Constitution that it has become unrecognizable.

It wasn't always that way in America, yet it's no secret that a huge portion of the nation likes this pernicious evolution because, unlike Ronald Reagan, they do believe government is the solution to all of our problems. Moreover, they have become so determined to continue down this path that they now vilify and/or censor anyone who stands against it.

Any diminution of the federal government's power is utterly anathema to the American Left, because without the coercive effects of that top-down, one-size-fits-all federal bureaucracy, their power would be severely diminished.

Yet there is a proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. That's because we are the United States of America — 50 separate constituencies where the locus of most power ought to reside. The states are where people live, work and play, and there is no good reason why people in a conservative state like Utah should be forced by the federal leviathan to live their lives exactly like the people in a leftist state like New York — or vice versa.

Why not return as much power as possible to the states? Certainly the Left would complain, but they have their fiefdoms where their power is virtually absolute. Imagine a nation where California could roll out the welcome mat to illegal aliens and Texas could shut down its border. Imagine abortion restrictions handled on a state-by-state basis. Imagine a 50 state experiment to determine a health care system that actually works, rather than everyone forced to live under the disaster of ObamaCare. Imagine a nation where one could far more clearly measure successes and failures of ideology without the federal government's thumb on the scale.

The mechanisms are already in place. "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," states the Ninth Amendment. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," states the Tenth Amendment.

This is by no means a perfect solution to everything that ails us. There are, by necessity, critical decisions that must be made at the federal level. Yet if more of the power resided in the states, national consensus would be easier to achieve for two reasons: The people's current sense of powerlessness would be mitigated, and ideas about what works and what doesn't would be far more obvious.

What would also be far more obvious are the genuine motivations of those who would categorically resist such a re-empowerment of the states and individual Americans. Their lust for unbridled power would be exposed when they make it clear they believe most Americans are incapable of handling Liberty without the coercive guidance that accrues far more perniciously at the federal level. And Americans themselves might re-discover an immutable reality: In the overwhelming majority of cases, effective government operates from the local level upward, not the federal level downward.

We will always be a divided nation. But there are levels of division that are toxic, and levels that are healthy. In a nation of 320 million people, comprised of every ethnic, religious and racial group imaginable, one-size-fits-all is a toxic enterprise. Americans need to seek out political candidates who genuinely champion the restoration of federalism and individual rights. In short, American Liberty.

And this quote from Ben Shapiro:

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Ben Shapiro: "For years, conservatives have told themselves the pretty bedtime story that they represent a silent majority in America — that most Americans want smaller government, individual rights and personal responsibility. We've suggested that if only we nominated precisely the right guy who says the right words — some illegally grown Ronald Reagan clone, perhaps — we'd win. Donald Trump's impending nomination puts all of that to bed. ... In order to rebuild, conservatives must recognize that they think individually; leftists think institutionally. While the left took over the universities — now bastions of pantywaist fascism hell-bent on destroying free speech — the right slept. While the left took over the public education system wholesale, the right fled to private schools and homeschooling. While the left utilized popular culture as a weapon, conservatives supposedly withdrew and turned off their televisions. Withdrawal, it turns out, wasn't the best option. Fighting back on all fronts is. Republicans need to worry less about the next election and significantly more about building a movement of informed Americans who actually understand American values. That movement must start with outreach to parents, and it must extend to the takeover of local institutions or defunding of government institutions outright. The left has bred a generation of Americans who do not recognize the American ideals of the Founding Fathers. Pretending otherwise means flailing uselessly as demagogues like Trump become faux-conservative standard-bearers."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 17, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-16/will-trump-presidency-really-change-anything-better (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-16/will-trump-presidency-really-change-anything-better)

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If Trump does take such measures during his presidency, then he may be a president worth supporting, or even fighting for. If he pursues few or none of these measures, however, we can be relatively certain he is just another establishment puppet playing his part in the false left/right paradigm leading America toward oblivion.

Whatever Trump is, his popularity does indicate a rising tide of discontent within the U.S. The insane circus atmosphere of election 2016 is no coincidence; it is a perfect representation of the overflowing tensions that permeate our culture and are leading to potential earth shattering conflict. Keep in mind that America’s economic situation was already decided back in 2008 and will only become worse as we move into the election season. Whatever tensions we see now will only multiply as financial crisis becomes more apparent to the masses.

The idea that a Trump presidency will change much of anything is a rather farfetched one in my view. Trump’s popularity only suggests that people are seeking alternatives. The damage to America has for the most part already been done, and there will be no avoiding the consequences. That said, how we rebuild can still be determined. No political leader including Trump will ever be able to heal the American system or the American psyche, but the efforts of millions of independent and liberty minded Americans can. We have a long and terrible struggle ahead of us, but to look at it from an “optimistic” perspective, at least Americans are becoming sick of the status quo. That is a start.

Yeah, saw that post this morning, and it is largely correct.

And this -

If Trump is a legitimate anti-establishment candidate, then here are some of the actions he would have to pursue in order to prove it.

1) The complete reversal of every unconstitutional Obama Administration and Bush Administration executive order.
 
2) The pursuit of removal of the indefinite detention provisions and secret tribunals contained in the NDAA.
 
3) The removal of FISA, and the end of the invasion of privacy and other violations of the 4th Amendment by the NSA against American citizens.
 
4) The end of secretive executive powers of assassination, including the assassination of American citizens without trial.
 
5) The dismantling of the Department of Homeland Security in light of abuses of constitutional limits.
 
6) The complete reversal of Obamacare.
 
7) The immediate end to all refugee relocation programs related to the Middle East and Syria.
 
8) The true enforcement of illegal immigration laws and border controls.
 
9) The encouragement of states to assert their right to protect their borders based on the 10th Amendment.
 
10) An immediate call for an independent investigation into the immigration policies of the Obama Administration.
 
11) An immediate independent investigation into the Benghazi attacks.
 
12) An immediate independent investigation into the ATF’s “Fast and Furious” gun running program.
 
13) An immediate independent investigation into the involvement of covert intelligence agencies and the Department of Defense in the funding and training of ISIS.
 
14) An immediate call for an independent investigation of corruption within the election process itself, as well as the influence of international banks and corporations in the election process.
 
15) The removal of unfair restrictions that prevent third party and independent candidates from participation in public debates.
 
16) An immediate call for an investigative audit of the Federal Reserve as well as the pursuit of dismantling the fed and transitioning America back into constitutional sound money creation.
 
17) An investigation into U.S. relations with the International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and the Bank of International Settlements with the intention of ending all ties to said organizations if and when criminal conduct is discovered.
 
18) An end to the revolving door of banking elites cycling through various cabinet positions within the White House.
 
19) An immediate investigation into the influence of international financiers and globalist think tanks like the Council On Foreign Relations and their efforts to destroy the national sovereignty of the U.S.
 
20) The end of globalization of U.S. foreign policy and economic policy which has weakened America, and the return to a more independent and self reliant American economic and defense infrastructure.

Even if some of the things on this list are straight out of the paranoid minds of PaulBots, there is still merit to everything on the list, and even if we assume the list is complete (it is not)...any POTUS working through 1/4 of that would be wildly successful in latter-day terms.

But what would it really accomplish if not carried through into multiple terms?

And, what if not one bit of it is realized?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 17, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
I don't know if any of you read Mark Alexander's Patriot Post newsletter.
If not, he is a true conservative in all ways that I found.

I saw this in today's email.

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Reality may be painful, but the first step toward mitigation is to confront the source. If there is anything the current election season has demonstrated beyond a doubt, it is that Americans have irreconcilable differences. The political Left and Right are worlds apart, and it appears that nothing — not even an existential threat to our way of life, be it terror, unrestrained illegal immigration, economic catastrophe or cultural disintegration — will elicit anything resembling a broad-based coalition to address the problem. Thus the nation is at a crossroad during a time when our leaders appear fundamentally incapable of bridging the ideological divide. Yet none of them ask the essential question: Why is it even necessary to do so?

We begin with the source of the division. One sentence from Ronald Reagan's First Inaugural Address says it all: "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." No one is naive enough to advocate the complete elimination of government. Yet there is government and there is big government. The most infuriating government is the sprawling, incompetent, ever-expanding bureaucratic sinkhole that emanates from Washington, DC.

The reason for this condition is simple: Americans have countenanced the evolution of an all-consuming federal leviathan, so removed from the original constraints of the Constitution that it has become unrecognizable.

It wasn't always that way in America, yet it's no secret that a huge portion of the nation likes this pernicious evolution because, unlike Ronald Reagan, they do believe government is the solution to all of our problems. Moreover, they have become so determined to continue down this path that they now vilify and/or censor anyone who stands against it.

Any diminution of the federal government's power is utterly anathema to the American Left, because without the coercive effects of that top-down, one-size-fits-all federal bureaucracy, their power would be severely diminished.

Yet there is a proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. That's because we are the United States of America — 50 separate constituencies where the locus of most power ought to reside. The states are where people live, work and play, and there is no good reason why people in a conservative state like Utah should be forced by the federal leviathan to live their lives exactly like the people in a leftist state like New York — or vice versa.

Why not return as much power as possible to the states? Certainly the Left would complain, but they have their fiefdoms where their power is virtually absolute. Imagine a nation where California could roll out the welcome mat to illegal aliens and Texas could shut down its border. Imagine abortion restrictions handled on a state-by-state basis. Imagine a 50 state experiment to determine a health care system that actually works, rather than everyone forced to live under the disaster of ObamaCare. Imagine a nation where one could far more clearly measure successes and failures of ideology without the federal government's thumb on the scale.

The mechanisms are already in place. "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," states the Ninth Amendment. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," states the Tenth Amendment.

This is by no means a perfect solution to everything that ails us. There are, by necessity, critical decisions that must be made at the federal level. Yet if more of the power resided in the states, national consensus would be easier to achieve for two reasons: The people's current sense of powerlessness would be mitigated, and ideas about what works and what doesn't would be far more obvious.

What would also be far more obvious are the genuine motivations of those who would categorically resist such a re-empowerment of the states and individual Americans. Their lust for unbridled power would be exposed when they make it clear they believe most Americans are incapable of handling Liberty without the coercive guidance that accrues far more perniciously at the federal level. And Americans themselves might re-discover an immutable reality: In the overwhelming majority of cases, effective government operates from the local level upward, not the federal level downward.

We will always be a divided nation. But there are levels of division that are toxic, and levels that are healthy. In a nation of 320 million people, comprised of every ethnic, religious and racial group imaginable, one-size-fits-all is a toxic enterprise. Americans need to seek out political candidates who genuinely champion the restoration of federalism and individual rights. In short, American Liberty.

And this quote from Ben Shapiro:

Quote
Ben Shapiro: "For years, conservatives have told themselves the pretty bedtime story that they represent a silent majority in America — that most Americans want smaller government, individual rights and personal responsibility. We've suggested that if only we nominated precisely the right guy who says the right words — some illegally grown Ronald Reagan clone, perhaps — we'd win. Donald Trump's impending nomination puts all of that to bed. ... In order to rebuild, conservatives must recognize that they think individually; leftists think institutionally. While the left took over the universities — now bastions of pantywaist fascism hell-bent on destroying free speech — the right slept. While the left took over the public education system wholesale, the right fled to private schools and homeschooling. While the left utilized popular culture as a weapon, conservatives supposedly withdrew and turned off their televisions. Withdrawal, it turns out, wasn't the best option. Fighting back on all fronts is. Republicans need to worry less about the next election and significantly more about building a movement of informed Americans who actually understand American values. That movement must start with outreach to parents, and it must extend to the takeover of local institutions or defunding of government institutions outright. The left has bred a generation of Americans who do not recognize the American ideals of the Founding Fathers. Pretending otherwise means flailing uselessly as demagogues like Trump become faux-conservative standard-bearers."

Yeah well, Alexander might be a conservative but he is clearly in the polite/optimistic side of things that to my point of view is way too naive. 

To the items in bold -

He says the Left and Right are worlds apart...cannot agree on existential threats...says who?  Whose "right" is he talking about?  The GOP "Right" caves into the Left and barely sqwaks about it!  By their actions the GOP/Republican's are no different than the Dem's...maybe less obvious and less malicious intent...but they are doing the same things!

And generic "American's" didn't countenance jack sh*t!  Feckless useless Pubbies and their brain-dead lackey's who were given mandates to OPPOSE/FIGHT/REPEAL this sh*t countenanced this bloated government and rising tyranny, not any of us!

And then he goes on to argue states rights when nobody GAFF about that sh*t anymore?  Certainly nobody in the effing GOP!  Obama openly pisses on the Constitution and all these f**kweasels have to say is "Sorry, first black Prez, we can't do sh*t!" and people are OK with that?  How many times does the GOP have to eff us over before people realize THEY ARE PART OF THE EFFING PROBLEM?!  Suddenly these nozzles are going to reassert states rights and not fold like pansies when the Progs beat them up about wanting to go back to the glory days of Pre-Civil War America?  Who the hell is going to champion this among the current crop of gutless wonders?

Same critique of Shapiro, just who the frack are these people fighting back?  Does he think using Roberts Rules of Order in a 4thGen battlefield is going to be effective?

Jeepers H Cripes!  People have to wake up from this fantasy and smell what's burning!

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on March 17, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
The problem with the "silent majority" theory is that only the "silent" part of it has remained true.  The "majority" part was once true, but it was rendered meaningless by the "silent" part.  Today the "majority" part is no longer true in any case, silent or otherwise.

Reagan was able to correct the course of the GOP in the 80s, but it turns out those 8 years were an anomalous blip on the radar.  The GOPe was back in control with Bush the Elder in 1989, and they proceeded to put things back on the pre-Reagan trajectory.  An entire generation has elapsed since then.  It simply can't be salvaged at this point.  In a way the modern citizenry doesn't even speak the same language as that citizenry that found appeal in Reagan's message.

Some days I think the Left simply deserves to win.  They're loud, brash, and uncompromising -- even as they heap criticism on their opposition for supposedly being those things.  I also think that's a substantial component of Trump's appeal.  Those of us on the Right recognize the need to be loud and brash in our own right -- knowing that another stuffy, easily-caricatured Country Club candidate is going to produce nothing more than another well-delivered concession speech.

The Left obtained ownership of our institutions and culture through hundreds and thousands of incremental steps over the past century.  The Republican Party always found an equal number of reasons to flee the battlefield, i.e. the damnable "not the hill to die on" rationalizations.  Well now the Left owns all the hills, and as a result all the commanding heights of civilization.

I'm just so tired of being saddled with a bunch of Born Losers as "our" representatives in this fight.  That's partly why I have warmed to Trump and his populism.  I recognize that we are not, in fact, a "silent majority" after all and that maybe it's simply time to get comfortable with certain types of populist pandering if it might at least help change the cultural landscape in our favor.  I include in this things like pandering to union labor with protectionist rhetoric.  Hell, why not?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 17, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
You have some validity to your points, Libertas.

However, generic Americans DID countenance all this.
And they have been for the last 50 years or longer.

I have some issues with Shapiro from time to time but I think he makes valid points.
IF...
we have the time and will to take back the schools and the states and local governments.

He's right that we withdrew and didn't fight.

And Alexander.
I see him as an educator, thinker.
Until people are aware of the things he's saying, we descend into Trump.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 17, 2016, 12:46:30 PM
We should take lessons from the Left.
At least regarding action.

And the 60s.
I was watching PBS program on 60s rock n roll on the Ed Sullivan show with my 20 yo daughter and she was dissing the clothes and music, etc.

That was my generation and I realized that we changed the world.
Not saying it was for the better but we did change the world.

If we could possibly waken from our deep sleep, we could do it again.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2016, 07:13:51 AM
You have some validity to your points, Libertas.

However, generic Americans DID countenance all this.
And they have been for the last 50 years or longer.

I have some issues with Shapiro from time to time but I think he makes valid points.
IF...
we have the time and will to take back the schools and the states and local governments.

He's right that we withdrew and didn't fight.

And Alexander.
I see him as an educator, thinker.
Until people are aware of the things he's saying, we descend into Trump.

Generic, yes as in stupid, lazy, ignorant and appeasing Americans...and Progs obviously...certainly not us!

And I have no problem with teaching, but realizing we do not have that kind of time and acknowledging that and preparing for the future that is coming would be nice, but I understand certain people have difficulty with facts even when they tower above their head...

It'll all get sorted out one way or another...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2016, 07:56:33 AM
FWIW -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/262125-democrats-sound-alarm-against-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/262125-democrats-sound-alarm-against-trump/)

Must just be obligatory takiyya.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2016, 12:07:55 PM
Excerpts from -

Death of America: Why This Presidential Election isn’t as Important as People Think
By Selwyn Duke

It’s easy to get wrapped up in men and moments. In the current election season, for instance, we may see a candidate appearing to embody all our hopes and dreams (or at least many) and come to assign him country-savior status. Even the great Thomas Sowell — a man for whom I have tremendous respect — has called the November choice “the last chance for America.” Yet even if we do choose the “right” president, it will only amount to a stay of execution.
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And even if the next president is an anomalous good result, he won’t even be a pause that refreshes, but will at best slow down the runaway train racing toward the precipice.
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Do you really want to save America? Okay, then completely transform the media, academia and entertainment so they’re not brainwashing citizens 24/7 with anti-American, anti-Christian, multiculturalist, socialist, feminist and a multitude of other lies. End legal immigration, which, via the importation of massive numbers of Third Worlders, is changing our country into a socialistic non-Western culture. Even more significantly, convince the 70-plus percent of Americans who are moral relativists to believe in Truth
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Many of us now believe, in essence, there are no rules governing man.
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With our agreeing on almost nothing, it’s not surprising most everything ends up in court, as we enrich lawyers and empower judges to become the Ultimate Arbiters of All Things. Meanwhile, not-so-huddled masses, Muslim jihadists and perhaps weapons of mass destruction pour across a border that’s still not porous enough for the miles-wide fifth column in our midst. And the same people tell us voter-ID is oppressive, as our government prints official documents in dozens of languages and we press one for English and hope the customer service representative we get to help us with our crummy Chinese-made product will have a decipherable accent.
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With people tending to make up their own rules, our “game” is breaking down. Why do you think we have candidates who scoff at enforcing immigration law and a president and judges who wipe their paws and claws on the Constitution? In a land where all is relative, laws are relative to the men; then you become a nation of men, not laws.

This is why none of our “solutions” will solve anything. We can talk about Ted Cruz and constitutionalism. But was John Adams a fool when warning in 1798, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”? We are now the “other.”

We can echo Donald Trump echoing Ronald Reagan and say “Make America great again!” But as an apocryphal quotation oft repeated by Reagan goes, “America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.”

And we can bellow “Freedom!” Braveheart-style. But as British philosopher Edmund Burke noted, “It is written in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

Intemperate minds abound. Passions we’ve got. Fetters we’re getting. Of course, I’ll choose to, if possible, add a few more pages to the American republic’s story. But I know that, even now, her last chapter is being written.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/death_of_america_why_this_presidential_election_isnt_as_important_as_people_think.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/death_of_america_why_this_presidential_election_isnt_as_important_as_people_think.html)

Read the whole thing...it is worth the effort!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 18, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
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Generic, yes as in stupid, lazy, ignorant and appeasing Americans...and Progs obviously...certainly not us!

Certainly not us.
There's like 8 of us here.

Stupid because the dumbing down from the educational system has worked pretty well.
Ignorant for the same reason.

Americans got fat and contented.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Remember what the Establishment always told Conservatives who said this when they were fed up with Establishment losers getting the nomination?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/)

I think we all do...little Lindsey must have forgot, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 21, 2016, 12:43:22 PM
Wherein I Comment On “Electoral Politics” – It’s Professional Wrestling Without the Wrestling (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/03/19/wherein-i-comment-on-electoral-politics-its-professional-wrestling-without-the-wrestling/)

More Ann B. You are warned
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on March 21, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Remember what the Establishment always told Conservatives who said this when they were fed up with Establishment losers getting the nomination?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/)

I think we all do...little Lindsey must have forgot, eh?


Oh yeah, when it was election after election of Establishment losers we were always expected to be loyal soldiers and hold our noses to pull the lever for their guy.  And we always did.

So when the shoe is on the other foot, it's all take-our-ball-and-go-home from the Establishment.  Regardless of what you think about any of these candidates, one thing that's clear is that you're witnessing the dissolution of a political party.  It's losing its legitimacy because it has forfeit its purpose for existing.  People want real choice, not illusory choice.  And for a long time now the GOP has offered little more than illusory choice.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 21, 2016, 02:53:24 PM
Wherein I Comment On “Electoral Politics” – It’s Professional Wrestling Without the Wrestling (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/03/19/wherein-i-comment-on-electoral-politics-its-professional-wrestling-without-the-wrestling/)

More Ann B. You are warned

This is my shocked face.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 21, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
If you changed just a few words.....If Trump built a conservative squad......Used the Constitution as cover.....checking for democratic papers.....blaming them for the nations issues.....and anyone with a drop of democrat in them were sent to the concentration camps known as states who have dem leadership. I'm all in.

And lets say Trump DID all those things.....still a hell of a lot better than liberal "leadership".

Sure. Do you actually see Trump doing those things - for either side?
 I don't. He isn't a true believer in anything but his own awesomeness.
He will hold, by and large, the Status Quo.  Better than Liberal leadership  e will probably be. That may be the worst thing for us at this point. If the Statists outlast us,  they win.  In 30 years this country will be demographically theirs, with a population ready to disarm and accept their yokes...a population like that in Europe...  and like Europe is today - we would become ripe for a full on invasion from foreign powers outside the Statist elite's control.


Actually....I meant if Trump didn't do any.....It would be better than liberal leadership.  I don't think he will hold completely to the status quo. I believe he will attempt to get all the money held outside the USA in house. I think he will work on the tax code. I think he will ( at least) reduce the dept of education, finance, kick muslims out of NASA, strengthen our armed forces, work on the fence and a few other agendas which directly affect his ego. I have no illusions over social issues, obamacare, etc.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 21, 2016, 04:38:53 PM
Holy sh*t! I went to sleep in liberty and work up in the land of Trump. Trump this and Trump that. Trump can do no wrong. He's a reformer after seeing the light and 45 plus years on and supporting of the DemonRat plantation but he says he had a conversion and damn it you folks seem to believe him and in him which is sorry to say quite scary. ::cussing:: What the hell happened?

Conspiracy everywhere. My father once told me to only believe half what you see and half what you hear and it seems some of my friends have forgotten that little proverb and thrown themselves before a man that is as crooked and evil as the Pharisees that sought to kill our Savior.

Apparently nobody cares who this guy is  or what he "might" do as long as "we" send him on his mission to destroy the GOP. Inconsequential will be the results of his insane rantings, his childlike obsessions with Meghan Kelly on Twitter, his 20 year stalking of a female reporter or attacks anyone that dares to question his real motives or policies.

So you want to trade one narcissist for another?
Troubling is that you all know history better than I and can't see the parallels to 80 years ago in central Europe. Does killing the GOP party at any cost mean more to you than your liberty, your families or your souls. Listen to the way this guy talks in platitudes with no definitive plan of action whatsoever which is exactly what we have now with Obama. Two peas in a pod they are, both never being tied down with a controversial vote with Obama voting present and Trump never running for anything. Is it logical to expect Trump to behave as one that cares for you and me after his life as an uncaring buffoon that supported everybody on the left that advocated for expanding government control over our lives? I say absolutely not. ::thinking::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 07:03:49 AM
Remember what the Establishment always told Conservatives who said this when they were fed up with Establishment losers getting the nomination?

http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/262599-lindsey-graham-better-for-gop-to-lose-election-than-heart-and-soul-with-trump/)

I think we all do...little Lindsey must have forgot, eh?


Oh yeah, when it was election after election of Establishment losers we were always expected to be loyal soldiers and hold our noses to pull the lever for their guy.  And we always did.

So when the shoe is on the other foot, it's all take-our-ball-and-go-home from the Establishment.  Regardless of what you think about any of these candidates, one thing that's clear is that you're witnessing the dissolution of a political party.  It's losing its legitimacy because it has forfeit its purpose for existing.  People want real choice, not illusory choice.  And for a long time now the GOP has offered little more than illusory choice.

Yup, and I cannot lie and say hearing them scream, no matter the source of their angst, is an unpleasant sound.  Nope, I just can bring myself to GAFF about their misery.  They own 100% of it.

And on that theme I see Trump supporters not being shy about throwing this out -

http://youtu.be/Tq2rXSVF4rk (http://youtu.be/Tq2rXSVF4rk)

That's got to sting a little...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 07:05:12 AM
Wherein I Comment On “Electoral Politics” – It’s Professional Wrestling Without the Wrestling (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/03/19/wherein-i-comment-on-electoral-politics-its-professional-wrestling-without-the-wrestling/)

More Ann B. You are warned

This is my shocked face.

 ::bows::

To me that is the most perfect comment to an Ann B rant like this I have witnessed yet!

 ::clapping::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 07:14:52 AM
Holy sh*t! I went to sleep in liberty and work up in the land of Trump. Trump this and Trump that. Trump can do no wrong. He's a reformer after seeing the light and 45 plus years on and supporting of the DemonRat plantation but he says he had a conversion and damn it you folks seem to believe him and in him which is sorry to say quite scary. ::cussing:: What the hell happened?

Conspiracy everywhere. My father once told me to only believe half what you see and half what you hear and it seems some of my friends have forgotten that little proverb and thrown themselves before a man that is as crooked and evil as the Pharisees that sought to kill our Savior.

Apparently nobody cares who this guy is  or what he "might" do as long as "we" send him on his mission to destroy the GOP. Inconsequential will be the results of his insane rantings, his childlike obsessions with Meghan Kelly on Twitter, his 20 year stalking of a female reporter or attacks anyone that dares to question his real motives or policies.

So you want to trade one narcissist for another?
Troubling is that you all know history better than I and can't see the parallels to 80 years ago in central Europe. Does killing the GOP party at any cost mean more to you than your liberty, your families or your souls. Listen to the way this guy talks in platitudes with no definitive plan of action whatsoever which is exactly what we have now with Obama. Two peas in a pod they are, both never being tied down with a controversial vote with Obama voting present and Trump never running for anything. Is it logical to expect Trump to behave as one that cares for you and me after his life as an uncaring buffoon that supported everybody on the left that advocated for expanding government control over our lives? I say absolutely not. ::thinking::

Relax Warp, deep breaths...I am not sure where this Land of Trump thing came from but OK let's pass on that for now, let's all focus on what matters...and here's one big hint - it isn't latter day politics.

Your perspective will change once you realize politics do not matter any more, sure it's fun to debate and yeah stuff goes on to set our rage on fire and sure it is enjoyable watching the Establishment-dominated GOP get hoisted on its own petard, but at the end of the day we can only have a measure of control over one thing - us.  I think we here all know preparing for the end game is more important than what happens in the interim.  I am not trying to sound defeatist about the present, which quite frankly is screwed nine ways to Sunday, but I am imploring people to plan for the implosion and come out the other side intact.  We are going to need all hands on deck to rebuild our world once the dust settles and the fires are extinguished.

I want you to be there.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 07:31:09 AM
In the news...more Establishment hacks or DeomProg operatives?  Well, what difference does it make?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/disgusting-hundreds-of-anti-trump-protesters-taunt-jews-at-aipac-with-nazi-imagery/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/disgusting-hundreds-of-anti-trump-protesters-taunt-jews-at-aipac-with-nazi-imagery/)

Invade a Pro-Israel event and start waving the Nazi crap again in Jewish faces...

Now that's class!

Just like a white prog dressing as a KKK ass-clown and taunting a black dude...

If Trump is pissing these clowns off...

Bill Ayers, BLM, other fellow travelers in the Prog camp, Obama, Clinton...

...do people seriously think they would be behaving the slightest bit different if it was Ted Cruz, or anybody else?

Whatever, people forget who the real enemy is and forget who shields them...

I say poke 'em all in the eye, harder.  But hey, maybe I am alone in that sentiment...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 07:48:03 AM
And this basically is the E-GOP donors admitting the POTUS stakes are over and they are turning their attention and money to securing as many Establishment stooges as possible in Congress...

http://time.com/4266176/campaign-finance-republican-donors-congress/ (http://time.com/4266176/campaign-finance-republican-donors-congress/)

...at least until it comes to Cleveland and something unusual happens.

Man, are these interesting times or what?  Can't say it is boring though, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 08:23:32 AM
FWIW -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/21/donald-trump-reveals-foreign-policy-team-in-meeting-with-the-washington-post/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/21/donald-trump-reveals-foreign-policy-team-in-meeting-with-the-washington-post/)

My take?  Looks pretty moderate to me, that is a mix of hawks and if not doves middling creatures.  If you were OK with W probably OK with this, looks like Team W without the nation building.  And getting out of NATO etc not a bad idea to me.  Shouldn't be any more free-lunches for supposed allies...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on March 22, 2016, 08:47:07 AM
How to stop Trump?  How about showing America how hawt it's first lady could be?

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/03/04/enhanced-mid-8139-1458581517-18.png)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/5c/59/975c59692943cb30e51f293bf087a528.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 22, 2016, 08:51:06 AM

Troubling is that you all know history better than I and can't see the parallels to 80 years ago in central Europe. Does killing the GOP party at any cost mean more to you than your liberty, your families or your souls.

I think we see the parallels in that yes this is the same sort of election, and its the same sort of insane populism and desire for a "strong man to fix it"  in play.  But a parallel  isn't a destiny. I don't see anything in Trump's history that leads me to believe he is the next Hitler, or that a Trump Presidency will lead to a Third Reich, Concentration Camps and Genocide. But sure, a Third Reich is in the cards from this point forward - and we know a Democrat will try to take us there for sure. Trump probably won't. But lets say he does.. its going to be pretty much the same outcome. This election doesn't matter. If its bugging you. Tune out. After all its just a show, you should really just relax.

And as Libertas suggested - we have ALREADY  lost our liberty and our country. What is important now is saving our families and our souls.  The Democrat   is actually more likely to go full Stalin and start a Civil War - far more likely than Trump - and a Civil war fought sooner is more likely to have our desired outcome - as there are more liberty loving people alive now and able to fight than there will be in 10 years, and the Deep Big Brother State isn't quite ready for that war yet.  Close, but I would rather that we weren't fighting Terminators in the field  and insect size drones with poison , in a money less society, in which every device you own ( which is your money)  listens and watches, and who knows what other Tech they will have in 10 years.

SMOD vs. Cthulhu and the fix is probably in for Hillary in the general election anyway. Really at this point all you have to so is watch the road for Fedcoats.  Until then plant your garden. Raise your meat. Keep your head down and your powder dry.  Maybe set out a lawn chair and pop some popcorn. The dramatic fall of a large civilization doesn't happen that often, so you might was well observe it. But until the war starts ( if it starts)  there is nothing to do but prep. And if the war doesn't start, the Fed is eventually effectively repealed by its lack of money. We are still an armed society, and as a result, you will get Wild West rules and Frontier Justice in the end. Not the best outcome, but places without the right to bear arms end up back in the Feudal system which in my opinion is worse. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on March 22, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
What Libertas and Weisshaupt said.  Besides ....

Quote
... as long as "we" send him on his mission to destroy the GOP.

... "we" didn't and don't have to send him, he's "self-sending".  Anyway, I voted for Cruz.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 22, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
If Cruz becomes the nominee,,,,,,,He will be soundly defeated. First, he won't fight back, viciously. Second, The establishment won't give him money.

Since I also believe the fix is in, a conservative would need to garner enough votes to overwhelm a fix. With all the obstacles in front of Cruz, from his own party, the media......He will be drawn and quartered. The left will claim THE great victory, a change in attitude within the country.

I under no illusion with Trump. But if by some miracle he accomplished shutting down the DOE, DOEDucation, build a wall, revamp the tax code, rid us of ethanol, save NASA or better yet, allow the gov't to shut down for months....I would consider it a victory.

I KNOW what Hillary is going to do...target my healthcare, target my business, target my guns, my flag, my freedom. Screw that.

Bottom line for me is Cruz can't win but Trump can. I want to win. I'll worry about my principles later.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 22, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
Holy sh*t! I went to sleep in liberty and work up in the land of Trump. Trump this and Trump that. Trump can do no wrong. He's a reformer after seeing the light and 45 plus years on and supporting of the DemonRat plantation but he says he had a conversion and damn it you folks seem to believe him and in him which is sorry to say quite scary. ::cussing:: What the hell happened?



Warpmine, Please do not misinterpret my remarks - a substantial part of what I say comes in the form of blowing off steam at the idiocy of it all. And the rest comes not so much in advocacy of any particular candidate (my "champion (Walker) ceded the field long ago) but in recognition of the lay of the land.

I believe that Trump is the inevitable candidate - and next president - not because he's the best or the most popular, or the richest, or the meanest but because he played his hand better than any of the others. He correctly guessed the prevailing sentiment in America and effectively tapped into that sentiment. Hell, I've been referring to him as SMOD for cripe's sake!

What we have here is...failure to communicate.

And what we have here is commonly known as a clusterfvck. We have country"men" who not only like the terrible things Ødungo has done to us - they want to double-down on them. We are once again witness to the existential threat that is islam and there is virtually no one in "leadership" that is competent to respond. One half of America is sponging off the other half and far far too many see this as not only acceptable but desirable. We're eating our own seed-corn and complaining about nothing new on the boob-toob.

Is Trump going to fix it? Can it be fixed? Probably not. My personal belief is that we've crossed the Rubicon and there ain't no going back.

I grieve for those of you who have families. This has to be a frightful time to be raising kids. I think that the exhortations that "things are bad and they're going to get worse" is not meant to encourage us to go home and slit our wrists, but to construct plans for tomorrow. I've always said, "hope for the best/plan for the worst" and I believe it.

Me late brother used to say "it all comes out in the spoon" which was his dark and defeatist way of declining to take responsibility for his lot in life. I loved him dearly but he was a loser. I accept responsibility for a lot of stuff - even a bunch that I have no control over. I seriously doubt that my participation (or lack thereof) in this election cycle amounts to a spit in the ocean but I accept responsibility to do what I can. And the foremost thing on my agenda is crushing dhimmicrats. If I can do so and advance the cause of conservatism then I'll see that as a bonus. But my primary objective is to rout every damned dhimmi that I can. That's what my heart and my brain tells me to do.

Just like yours is telling you.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on March 22, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
In addition to echoing all the points from Libertas, Soup, and Don I will add that, for me, I am fine with shameless populism and pandering in this election, if it can put into office someone who even might act on some of the things he's said.  None are bigger in my book than getting control over who and how many are coming into this country.  If we don't get that under control, then there is no future for us in the country our own ancestors built.

Is Trump the real life version of President Camacho from Idiocracy?  Maybe.  But those are also the very traits that might draw in just enough of America's room temperature IQ voting base.  The ideologues of the Democratic party never cared that their political power was bought through shameless pandering to morons.  They set about to implement their agenda all the same.  I'm ready for our side to try it.  It's a desperate act, yes.  And these are desperate times.  The Republican Party just reeks of Loser, and that has to change.  Somebody with balls and bravado has to change it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 22, 2016, 10:04:14 PM

Troubling is that you all know history better than I and can't see the parallels to 80 years ago in central Europe. Does killing the GOP party at any cost mean more to you than your liberty, your families or your souls.

I think we see the parallels in that yes this is the same sort of election, and its the same sort of insane populism and desire for a "strong man to fix it"  in play.  But a parallel  isn't a destiny. I don't see anything in Trump's history that leads me to believe he is the next Hitler, or that a Trump Presidency will lead to a Third Reich, Concentration Camps and Genocide. But sure, a Third Reich is in the cards from this point forward - and we know a Democrat will try to take us there for sure. Trump probably won't. But lets say he does.. its going to be pretty much the same outcome. This election doesn't matter. If its bugging you. Tune out. After all its just a show, you should really just relax.

And as Libertas suggested - we have ALREADY  lost our liberty and our country. What is important now is saving our families and our souls.  The Democrat   is actually more likely to go full Stalin and start a Civil War - far more likely than Trump - and a Civil war fought sooner is more likely to have our desired outcome - as there are more liberty loving people alive now and able to fight than there will be in 10 years, and the Deep Big Brother State isn't quite ready for that war yet.  Close, but I would rather that we weren't fighting Terminators in the field  and insect size drones with poison , in a money less society, in which every device you own ( which is your money)  listens and watches, and who knows what other Tech they will have in 10 years.

SMOD vs. Cthulhu and the fix is probably in for Hillary in the general election anyway. Really at this point all you have to so is watch the road for Fedcoats.  Until then plant your garden. Raise your meat. Keep your head down and your powder dry.  Maybe set out a lawn chair and pop some popcorn. The dramatic fall of a large civilization doesn't happen that often, so you might was well observe it. But until the war starts ( if it starts)  there is nothing to do but prep. And if the war doesn't start, the Fed is eventually effectively repealed by its lack of money. We are still an armed society, and as a result, you will get Wild West rules and Frontier Justice in the end. Not the best outcome, but places without the right to bear arms end up back in the Feudal system which in my opinion is worse.
Never claimed the man was Hitler or genocidal but fascist...absolutely. I'm still under the belief he's a coward that hides from his opposition through lawyers and twitter.
The man is nothing short of a nut, just not Hitler.

I agree regarding the DemonRats going Stalin and welcome the action knowing full well the hostilities it will bring possibly the civil war we so desperately need.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 10:05:40 PM
Latter day America, the "Why the hell not?" phase. It sucks but hey, if someone hands you a sh*t sandwich with one hand and a hand grenade with the other, use them both.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on March 22, 2016, 10:09:55 PM
Holy sh*t! I went to sleep in liberty and work up in the land of Trump. Trump this and Trump that. Trump can do no wrong. He's a reformer after seeing the light and 45 plus years on and supporting of the DemonRat plantation but he says he had a conversion and damn it you folks seem to believe him and in him which is sorry to say quite scary. ::cussing:: What the hell happened?



Warpmine, Please do not misinterpret my remarks - a substantial part of what I say comes in the form of blowing off steam at the idiocy of it all. And the rest comes not so much in advocacy of any particular candidate (my "champion (Walker) ceded the field long ago) but in recognition of the lay of the land.

I believe that Trump is the inevitable candidate - and next president - not because he's the best or the most popular, or the richest, or the meanest but because he played his hand better than any of the others. He correctly guessed the prevailing sentiment in America and effectively tapped into that sentiment. Hell, I've been referring to him as SMOD for cripe's sake!

What we have here is...failure to communicate.

And what we have here is commonly known as a clusterfvck. We have country"men" who not only like the terrible things Ødungo has done to us - they want to double-down on them. We are once again witness to the existential threat that is islam and there is virtually no one in "leadership" that is competent to respond. One half of America is sponging off the other half and far far too many see this as not only acceptable but desirable. We're eating our own seed-corn and complaining about nothing new on the boob-toob.

Is Trump going to fix it? Can it be fixed? Probably not. My personal belief is that we've crossed the Rubicon and there ain't no going back.

I grieve for those of you who have families. This has to be a frightful time to be raising kids. I think that the exhortations that "things are bad and they're going to get worse" is not meant to encourage us to go home and slit our wrists, but to construct plans for tomorrow. I've always said, "hope for the best/plan for the worst" and I believe it.

Me late brother used to say "it all comes out in the spoon" which was his dark and defeatist way of declining to take responsibility for his lot in life. I loved him dearly but he was a loser. I accept responsibility for a lot of stuff - even a bunch that I have no control over. I seriously doubt that my participation (or lack thereof) in this election cycle amounts to a spit in the ocean but I accept responsibility to do what I can. And the foremost thing on my agenda is crushing dhimmicrats. If I can do so and advance the cause of conservatism then I'll see that as a bonus. But my primary objective is to rout every damned dhimmi that I can. That's what my heart and my brain tells me to do.

Just like yours is telling you.
We've waited generations to get a POTUS candidate that reveres the Constitution as much as the Founders did and so we're going to throw it all out the window for a popularist progressive? Good grief!

Last time Trump opened that Bible of his was probably when he want toe peak who signed it or for that matter to see if his name was mentioned somewhere inside. ::hysterical::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 22, 2016, 10:15:22 PM
OK that last quip is funny!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2016, 07:39:34 AM
Two articles...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WO11J (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WO11J)

If the Progs think Trump is coming off crazy on the Muzzie threat...compared to the other crazies mentioned in this article...then I am stark raving nuts by their definition.  Oohh, gosh, can't tell ya how that wounds me.

 ::laughonfloor::

#ThisIsMyWater,ThisIsMyBoard

And this one, looks like Obama's BLM Stormtroopers doing this crap...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-22/anti-trump-protestors-behead-effigy-donald-radical-left-anger-builds (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-22/anti-trump-protestors-behead-effigy-donald-radical-left-anger-builds)

...and this is supposed to what, get whitey to dump Trump?  Well, if you like taking orders from this ilk, go for it, don't bother me none.

And if Beck wasn't a big enough negative for Cruz outside the 13th Tribe Stronghold...well, y'all will love this...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-23/jeb-bush-endorses-ted-cruz (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-23/jeb-bush-endorses-ted-cruz)

And while we're talking about idiots like Senior Arbusto, have to throw in this pantywaist...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3810c7929ccb4b9b8a7e2d0cdb789c9e/ryan-disheartening-politics-risks-distrust-government (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3810c7929ccb4b9b8a7e2d0cdb789c9e/ryan-disheartening-politics-risks-distrust-government)

The cry of the soon to be extinct Establishment Dodo.

Please, let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Better yet, because of preemptive treachery, (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13753.0) perhaps being tossed out would be more fitting, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 23, 2016, 08:41:56 AM


Never claimed the man was Hitler or genocidal but fascist...absolutely. I'm still under the belief he's a coward that hides from his opposition through lawyers and twitter.


If you mean fascist in the sense of Mussolini Corporatism  - where all corporations serve the state, then their own interests,  then yeah, Trump will continue our long and well established tradition of crony capitalism most recently highlighted in Obamacare and the governments hijacking of every single Health care related business to serve the state agenda.

 I just don't see the man as ideologically driven. A bullying Coward? Sure. A Nut? Absolutely. A Clown? you bet.  And that combination can do a lot of damage.   But  I think -left to his own devices-  the man is such a relenting egoist, that he will lead by poll, and never do anything that dampens his popularity. The US government is his next reality show and he will work to ensure he consistently tops the  ratings.  I don't get the sense he is malicious or hateful towards America or Americans, and like C.S. Lewis said,   his "cupidity may at some point be satiated."  However,  he may not be left to his own devices in this...and manipulated to do other things.... perhaps building the  police state apparatus to round up and deport illegals.

I just don't see why you are so concerned or angry. The window for a political solution closed when the Tea Party failed to take both Houses in 2010 - that is why the IRS was engaged at that point.  It was certainly over after Obama's re-election in 2012  which was handed to him by the eGOP deliberately. No election since can be said to have mattered, and this upcoming one  certainly not.  Would the Democrats be running Hillary - with her crimes and baggage-- if there was any chance there was going to be a fair election?  Its all theater. Don't like the show, don't watch.
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Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 24, 2016, 11:51:24 AM
Two interesting articles at AT -

FWIW - Cliff Notes Summary - Don fights instead of dropping his pants and bending over. (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/why_i_like_don.html)

And I think an astute observation -

"If Hillary wins the White House she will have the compliance of her party and, depending on how successful the Republicans are in maintaining their majorities, will be less restrained.  Trump will face not only a terrified Democrat opposition, but the old Republican coalition that will still dominate the Congress."

Basically - If Trump wins - If they aren't doing anything, at least they aren't coming up with new ways of pissing me off!  If Hillary wins - It's all but over.

"This will be a fascinating campaign to unfold.  It was foreseen by Angelo Codevilla in his important article in The American Spectator six years ago, "America's Ruling Class and the Perils of Revolution."  While I and many others grossly underestimated the force behind the Trump rise, it does seem that this middle-class revolution will not be ignored.  The Democrats would be foolish to consider this merely a Republican problem."

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/a_loud_and_mighty_shift_of_governing_coalitions.html#ixzz43q8wCYyI (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/a_loud_and_mighty_shift_of_governing_coalitions.html#ixzz43q8wCYyI)

Got Revolution?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on March 25, 2016, 06:20:13 AM
I don't have a revolution, but I have my plane tickets out, May 29.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DwqwAdRjxxY/TYgKEQAF7iI/AAAAAAAAATI/xQNTtCdOntY/s1600/vacation+smiley.jpg)

I'm probably lucky to unload the home now that I see home sales crashing.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2016, 07:12:38 AM
Good for you, you deserve to do what you want with what you've earned! 

Haven't heard from my nephew the realtor so I am kind of out of touch with the local housing market these past several months, I know some areas do better than others, so hopefully you get as good a deal as you can to pad your stash.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2016, 07:23:47 AM
In other news...

'Soup's guy and my early favorite as well predicts an open convention would pick somebody not currently running, not Trump, Cruz or Kasich.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/scott-walker-predicts-open-gop-convention-would-nominate-someone-not/article_e3eea03d-8f97-57ed-90bc-e5f737001d52.html (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/scott-walker-predicts-open-gop-convention-would-nominate-someone-not/article_e3eea03d-8f97-57ed-90bc-e5f737001d52.html)

Which for those hoping for anybody but Trump is something to cheer and something to fear.  With no Cruz being considered it seems rather obvious Walker thinks an Establishment "uniter"  ::puke:: is in play, and given the track record of the E-GOP I cannot say that isn't the heavy odd's on favorite conclusion.

So, who outside the current mix and candidates and ex-candidates?

Ryan?   ::puke::

Mitch Daniels?   ::puke::

Romney?   ::puke::

They pull that sh*t I am done!!!

In other news, Muslims in US organizing in Mosques to register cultists to vote to stop Trump. (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/us/politics/republicans-muslim-americans-vote.html?_r=0)

Reminds me of 1980 and Russians and Persians and all manner of disreputable ilk sh*tting their pants over Reagan becoming President.

Well, this time around a bunch of scared Muzzies appears to be reason enough to dump Trump and pick a more sensible choice.

Well, choice...heh, I made a funny.

Whatever people do, plan for the real end game...or reap the bitter harvest.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on March 25, 2016, 08:22:02 AM
Sat there for two weeks, did a reduction, just to end up having two bidding.  Almost got my original asking price.

So out of Crapholisota at the end of April and to a tropical locale, end of May.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2016, 08:24:18 AM
Sat there for two weeks, did a reduction, just to end up having two bidding.  Almost got my original asking price.

So out of Crapholisota at the end of April and to a tropical locale, end of May.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 25, 2016, 11:30:05 AM
In other news...

'Soup's guy and my early favorite as well predicts an open convention would pick somebody not currently running, not Trump, Cruz or Kasich.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/scott-walker-predicts-open-gop-convention-would-nominate-someone-not/article_e3eea03d-8f97-57ed-90bc-e5f737001d52.html (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/scott-walker-predicts-open-gop-convention-would-nominate-someone-not/article_e3eea03d-8f97-57ed-90bc-e5f737001d52.html)



Walker caught hell for his comments from Trumpeteers, but his comments make logical sense. Occam's razor agrees that if the GOPe mounts a brokered convention challenge to a Trump ascension they would logically pick someone other than their perceived arch enemy - right?

And listen to his words:

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"I think if it’s an open convention, it’s very likely it would be someone who’s not currently running," Walker told reporters Thursday. "I mean, who knows. The one thing I qualify — it’s like the qualifications you see on those ads you see for car dealerships. I think any of us who comment on this election have to qualify that almost every prediction’s been off, so it’s hard to predict anything."

The governor, who ended his own presidential campaign in September, has yet to endorse a candidate. He plans to decide whether to endorse within the next few days, he said.

"I think it might be one of the days where the weather trumps Trump," he joked, adding that that was probably "wishful thinking."

Where my disappointment will likely come is when he endorses one of the establishment alternatives. It will be at that point when it will be a foregone conclusion that the pubbie nomination schema is hopelessly corrupt and deserves a violent death.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 28, 2016, 08:58:22 AM
The air this morning is awash with Cruz's "I have no desire to copulate with a rodent" statement.

Shouldn't this be in the "I Saw This Funny Thing On The Net" Thread?

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2016, 11:41:47 AM
It is hard to tell where latter day politics begins and humor starts...

For instance...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/gov-mike-huckabee-ted-cruz-really-wants-fight-cheating-rumors-hell-sue-national-enquirer-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/gov-mike-huckabee-ted-cruz-really-wants-fight-cheating-rumors-hell-sue-national-enquirer-video/)

And...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/27/stephen-miller-exposes-faux-feminism-cnn-panel-facts-muslim-migration-open-borders/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/27/stephen-miller-exposes-faux-feminism-cnn-panel-facts-muslim-migration-open-borders/)

...hilarious, no?

I mean the E-GOP focused on sex scandals and Progs focused on phony wars when real war happens in front of their brain-dead faces.

What else can you do but laugh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2016, 07:24:14 AM
The beauty of a corrupt system...

http://www.infowars.com/walker-will-endorse-cruz-in-wisc-push/ (http://www.infowars.com/walker-will-endorse-cruz-in-wisc-push/)

...some hope for Anyone-But-Trump folks...if you can call that hope...

I am taking a bit more pleasure in this morsel - Paul Ryan faces primary challenge from wealthy businessman ‘betrayed’ by House speaker (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/28/paul-ryan-faces-primary-challenge-wealthy-business/)

Betrayed by the E-GOP...that's a long line...but I reckon this guy can buy his way to the front of the line...maybe he can actually unseat a sitting Speaker, its happened before...

*ETA - Ryan's challenger is identified as Paul Nehlen (http://iotwreport.com/paul-nehlen-to-challenge-paul-ryan-from-right-in-primary/).
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/264249-black-teenagers-rap-about-killing-donald-trump-and-digging-a-grave-for-him/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/264249-black-teenagers-rap-about-killing-donald-trump-and-digging-a-grave-for-him/)

Yeah, ain't they cute?  Mouths writing checks their little racist asses can't cash.  Precious.

That'd be another way to start the party...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
The myth...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/greta-van-susteren-wildest-dreams-dont-see-jury-convicts-lewandowski-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/greta-van-susteren-wildest-dreams-dont-see-jury-convicts-lewandowski-video/)

Greta, Greta, Greta...it's not about the law, it's about the allegation and being smeared in public.

Funny how this is once again another case where it is swell to spout about equal rights and ignore equal responsibility...

The reality...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-anti-trump-protester-slugs-elderly-trump-supporter-face/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-anti-trump-protester-slugs-elderly-trump-supporter-face/)

I was raised to never strike a woman...but if I reclassify this creature the way it self-identified (hairy-legged FemiNazi), well...see if she wants to pick on another old man, eh?

And this nutbar...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/ouch-unhinged-never-trumper-screams-fck-fat-btch-back-flips-head-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/ouch-unhinged-never-trumper-screams-fck-fat-btch-back-flips-head-video/)

...I think Cheech loves getting his ass-kicked, so...off-camera we could have some fun with that tool.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on March 30, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Sat there for two weeks, did a reduction, just to end up having two bidding.  Almost got my original asking price.

So out of Crapholisota at the end of April and to a tropical locale, end of May.

    Where to?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on March 31, 2016, 06:58:30 AM
The plan is Manila for a few months, to Taiwan for a few years, then back to Angeles for the longer term.

But plans are always subject to change when one no longer has to be at certain places at certain times.   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 31, 2016, 07:05:41 AM
Don't know about Taiwan but in the PI you have to like hot & humid...but I know they'll be good eats to be had (Lumpia, Pork Adobo, Bibinka...sea food of all kinds) and hooch to wash it down with.

 ::beertoast::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on March 31, 2016, 07:21:09 AM
No surprise given the flimsiness of the allegations...

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/lewandowski-prosecutor-outed-as-hillary-supporter/ (http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/lewandowski-prosecutor-outed-as-hillary-supporter/)

NBPC makes its first ever primary endorsement...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/30/breaking-national-border-patrol-council-endorses-trump-for-president/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/30/breaking-national-border-patrol-council-endorses-trump-for-president/)

And Love/Hate Trump, all should read this article in AT by Oleg Atbashian (Comrade Red Square at The Peoples Cube). 

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/some_of_my_best_friends_are_trump_supporters.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/some_of_my_best_friends_are_trump_supporters.html)

I would really like to know everyone's reaction to this.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on March 31, 2016, 02:44:45 PM
On a sidenote.....How many are enjoying all the "Trump hates" stories pumped out each day. I believe the latest is the "trump hates" people who get abortions.

It's different every day and I always appreciate the photo of choice....Trump does make a lot of goofy faces...lol. I wonder if the media will ever figure out this feeds Trump. Nah.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 31, 2016, 10:47:46 PM
Don't know about Taiwan but in the PI you have to like hot & humid...but I know they'll be good eats to be had (Lumpia, Pork Adobo, Bibinka...sea food of all kinds) and hooch to wash it down with.

 ::beertoast::


Mmmmm....Lumpia

(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g369/J-reb/Lost%20Cause/Homer-Mmmm_zpsdepnwolq.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on April 01, 2016, 07:01:31 AM
Where I'll be is 9 months of tropical summer and 3 months of beautiful...except for the once in 50 year cold fronts as they had this year.  A day in the 40s and people die, because no one has heat and the buildings aren't insulated.

I can eat most everything except balut.  Just.  No.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2016, 07:08:32 AM
Yeah, I can't do a balut either.

 ::exitstageleft::

Heh, that's a good gif 'Soup.   ::thumbsup::

I forgot what they are called, but they got those fried butterflied shrimp thingies too.

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2016, 07:28:15 AM
The latest from the puppetmasters...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/confirmed-cruz-camp-stealing-trump-delegates-states-trump-won-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/confirmed-cruz-camp-stealing-trump-delegates-states-trump-won-video/)

...all's fair in...whatever...

Latter day politics...it's like pulling pantyhose over your face and trying to chew a steak...all it will do is piss you off.

The only recyclable campaign sign available from now till end-of-illusion-day...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/screen-shot-2016-03-31-at-10-53-50-pm.png)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
Chaos breeds opportunity...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-01/rnc-lays-groundwork-for-nominee-who-may-not-be-trump (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-01/rnc-lays-groundwork-for-nominee-who-may-not-be-trump)

...I can't really lose either way, so...

...fires start for many reasons...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2016, 08:21:49 AM
http://iotwreport.com/mark-levin-on-nevertrump (http://iotwreport.com/mark-levin-on-nevertrump)

Yup.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 07, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
http://iotwreport.com/mark-levin-on-nevertrump (http://iotwreport.com/mark-levin-on-nevertrump)

Yup.

"“Now those people out there, those people out there who are saying ‘stop Trump,’ I can understand ‘stop Trump’ in a primary process,” Levin said. “But stop Trump or you’ll vote for Hillary? Stop Trump or you won’t vote at all? These people are not conservatives. They’re not constitutionalists. They’re frauds. They’re fakes. They’re not brave. They’re asinine. They’re buffoons.”"

 No. The buffoon is the person who thinks that their vote matters in any way at all. The Power that Be will ensure a candidate who will do their bidding ( or who can be manipulated to do so)   gets in. I don't even imagine that there are two separate cabals of powers that be.  I think there is just one, that allows a second quasi-cabal to exist just for appearances , but which is completely under their control when push comes to shove.  Trump was handpicked to run in the second cabal's (fake)  primary by the first cabal - the second cabal doesn't want either Cruz nor Trump, and will probably choose Trump  because they know he was handpicked by  the first cabal, who in the end have them by the balls and  will ensure Trump gets the nomination.  Hillary, as a reliable lapdog of the First Cabal will get the nomination for the Dems.  Now the First Cabal has two of their chosen ones running, and will probably allow Trump to win -- because more Statist Cowbell   at this point may make the pot boil over -- and you boil a frog slowly.  They need someone to take the heat off a while,  and Trump will do it without undoing anything they want to keep.  If the heat is down enough after a First term,  you can betcha Hillary Heir elect to the throne will be next in line. Again.  If killing 4 men, running guns to Syria and releasing State secrets isn't enough to sink Clinton, loosing a national election won't either. Hell Trump himself might pardon her in the name  of "healing"  - Its all extend and pretend.  They are trying to buy time, because the Millennials and immigrants are their hope for the future - bred to be happier with less.  Give them an iPad  and a welfare check and most will never even realize what they lost in the transaction.

Our only real hope is that reality won't give them the time they want.

So no. I won't vote for Trump. I won't vote for Hillary. I won't vote.  Foregone conclusion anyway.
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Post by: Glock32 on April 07, 2016, 10:05:12 AM
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Our only real hope is that reality won't give them the time they want.


And often I find myself thinking we are naive to be pinning our hopes on this.  Yes we all know the economy is based largely on fictional abstractions, and that supposedly for that reason it simply cannot continue.  But in my daily commute, my time every day in the office, and everywhere else for that matter, I see no evidence that it's going to do anything but keep going.  How many interests are vested in it continuing?  It's not just the interests of the elites.  The commoners are vested in it too.

Maybe they really can just indefinitely create money out of thin air, on the premise that some hypothetical future society will make good on it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2016, 10:50:20 AM
It's been working so far, so...

Sometimes it hard to tell how much longer it can go on, then I see how many centuries Rome limped along in their batsyt crazy emperor phase...but our time compression is exponentially greater than then so where they had centuries we have years...

How many we have left? Probably fewer than people would like or think.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 07, 2016, 12:10:22 PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/04/let_my_people_go_how_trump_and_cruz_deliver_the_gop.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/04/let_my_people_go_how_trump_and_cruz_deliver_the_gop.html)

I think this is right, take special note of the opinion of The Butthead!

But Ted will not throw his support to Trump.  Neither Trump or Cruz will be coronated in Cleveland and people will be stuck with another turd vs demon non- choice and I will laugh my ass off and cull those people who dare say they never saw this coming.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 07, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
And often I find myself thinking we are naive to be pinning our hopes on this.  Yes we all know the economy is based largely on fictional abstractions, and that supposedly for that reason it simply cannot continue.  But in my daily commute, my time every day in the office, and everywhere else for that matter, I see no evidence that it's going to do anything but keep going.  How many interests are vested in it continuing?  It's not just the interests of the elites.  The commoners are vested in it too.

Maybe they really can just indefinitely create money out of thin air, on the premise that some hypothetical future society will make good on it.

It didn't keep going in Wiemar, or Zimbabwe, or Argentina,  or Venezuela...  the effects are in part hidden - we are the reserve and the "flight to perceived  saftey " from other currency collapses is delaying the day of reckoning  -  Unemployment is  high (percentage of workforce) ,  but Disability Fraud  and welfare ave hidden that problem -Your EBT is charged auto magically - no lines for bread or cheese.   Actual GDP is in contraction, dividends from companies that actually pay such are falling - but the Fed Plunge Team and the banks are  ensuring the Stock Market displays the illusion, not the reality. (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-worst-quarter-for-dividends-since.html (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-worst-quarter-for-dividends-since.html)) And no one wants to face the reality, so yeah,  the impetus is there to keep going -- till we can't.  At some point a Hot War, or a financial war with the BRICs will bring this down-- but  the BRICS have every reason to promote a smooth transition that allows them to exit the dollar gracefully - preserving the value of the dollar reserves they own.

The evidence is that they will keep it going as long as possible, but I doubt that is indefinitely. I have seen no evidence that the factors tat originally caused my alram are residing or changing. Heck, we are right back to the pre-2008 - "give a loan to anyone who wants one" phase of housing again (http://themortgagereports.com/18963/federal-reserve-senior-loan-officer-survey-mortgage-rates-q4-2015 (http://themortgagereports.com/18963/federal-reserve-senior-loan-officer-survey-mortgage-rates-q4-2015))- and even with that  the housing markets are stalling ( http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2016/04/stalling-new-home-prices-and-rising.html (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2016/04/stalling-new-home-prices-and-rising.html))  and prices are still way above the pre-2000 trend line - which indicates to me they have a long way to fall to be inline with "reality" again. The National debt is still increasing by a trillion a year,  SS and Medicare will be insolvent by 2020 and Medicaid already is.  Public pensions are still woefully underfunded. The 100 Trillions in CDS are still out there.  100 years ago people would have panicked - pulled their savings. This population is too stupid to panic, they are sure that "TOP MEN" will solve the issue before it becomes their problem.   They are stretching a rubber band, at some point they let go or the band snaps. As long as the money they print remains sequestered in  the accounts of cronies who use it solely to keep up the illusion  that they are solvent, we won't see reality on the streets.  But once they are forced to print 100%  of Obamacare, Welfare, Disability, Social Security and Medicaid?  Well that money ends up on the streets, and yes it will drive the inflation big time. And yes,  the official numbers are starting to show "wage growth" - and they say this is because the labor market is "getting tighter" - with the lowest workforce participation since the 70s and all of the new immigrants streaming across the border? Its getting tighter?  No. Its the first signs of monetary  inflation, and probably a bit of the job killing new Minimum wage laws. 

I too am very worried they can drag this out long enough that no one resists when the collapse comes. But come it will.  Just as it eventually came to all of those other places.  BRICs will one day have so little exposure that dropping the dollar and securing themselves as the owners of the new world reserve is worth their losses. Or they simply start buying US assets ( I think that is the only reason RE prices are as high as they are) Or a world war makes such considerations moot.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 07, 2016, 01:50:41 PM
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So no. I won't vote for Trump. I won't vote for Hillary. I won't vote.  Foregone conclusion anyway.

Where's the fun in that?

Let's party like it's 1099!

 ::newyear::

SMOD - 2016
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 07, 2016, 02:04:23 PM
Thanks.  I was not trying to be a Debbie Downer (funny that I say "downer" in regard to the collapse not coming -- that's how f**ked up our world is now).

I just find myself increasingly aware that I will be 40 in a few years.  I have been lamenting the detestable state of Western Civilization since my early 20s, and at that time just somehow assumed I'd still be young enough when The Event finally happened.  Now I worry.  I would like The Event to happen when I am still young enough to actively resist the forces of darkness, and when there are still enough of us living who have some memory of what it was like in The Before Time, The Long Long Ago.  What about the Millennials and younger?  Their entire lives have been steeped in suffocating Political Correctness.  They literally know no other America.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 09, 2016, 07:33:03 PM
  I'm waiting to see who Rubio makes a deal with.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 10, 2016, 11:00:21 PM
That whole Colorado Primary thing? Yeah, it worked out as expected
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/disgusting-colorado-trump-delegate-scratched-list-gop-convention-cruzers-take-delegates/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/disgusting-colorado-trump-delegate-scratched-list-gop-convention-cruzers-take-delegates/)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfp-xmpUIAAEX8p.jpg)

Yeah, everyone here knows I am not fan of Trump, and that I believe at least some of the charges listed in the resolution to be true.
And in no way do I condone or approve of this BS. If a delegate in my state was elected to vote for Trump, they should be free to do so.
End. Of. Story.

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That's kind of how I see it.... I'll vote for Trump as the Republican Candidate, as an Independent, or I'll write it in, but I will vote for the Candidate of MY choice.

If a lot of disenfranchised voters go Democrat and it brings on the insolvency of the US, which it will, so be it. Got guns, grub, and land for a garden..... let the cities burn.

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    Mine isn't, let the bank send the little man over to repossess it. It will be the last thing they ever do. Not one more step backwards to these GOP/DEM bastards. Come and take it!
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That's pretty much what people's reactions should be when the GOP goes back to sending letters and emails begging for money:

GOP: "We can defeat the Democrats, but only if you send us $5, $10, $25, or more!"

VOTER: "Sorry, it's YOUR party, not mine. Go fund your own fake kabuki-theater battles."

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seekingtruth Aitch748 • 10 hours ago

They have sent me and my husband countless letters begging for a donation, called us for donations we hang the phone up. The truth is the GOP has no supporters unless they are themselves, their donors and their bought and paid for delegates who seem to be willing to hijack the votes of the people and do what their corrupt party says. Teh GOP has no party. Have fun GOP you won't get donations or votes from we the people. We will go dem before you.

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rain33 Constitution101 • 4 hours ago

You are under the misapprehension that your vote matters. This is as fundamentally as bad as it gets! We are basically being told that we have been manipulated in the past to support the nominee they selected for us,but as we are no longer buying that nonsense, we are being told 'too bad, your vote count'. The GOP don't need to be ignored, they need to be punished. I will vote straight democrat ticket, for the first time in my life, so are both my parents and other family members I have spoken to.



That the GOP here refuses to let that happen, tells you all you need to know about the GOP here. Let them burn in hell.

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JackRabbit SWDC • 5 hours ago

That's right. Straight ticket Dumborat. The RNC thinks this is funny? They're so smart, they're fine with losing the presidency as long as they retain Congress. THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE IT ALL. May as well turn it all over to the Dems, put the pedal to the metal and take this over the cliff asap. The death by a thousand cuts, establishment schmucks from both sides...I'm done with that. Their cute little "nevertrump" hashtag...it's going to be NEVERRNC this fall. Thieving POS bastards.


Mind, I think the vote democrat to punish the GOP BS is mostly DNC bots, but whatever. Just. Don't. Vote.  Make it obvious that most of America doesn't care and the rest have given up the illsuion that it matters. Let the next POTUS enjoy the firm mandate of 10% of the population.
 

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on April 11, 2016, 05:28:24 AM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfp-xmpUIAAEX8p.jpg)

Damn if that doesn't have leftist written all over it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 11, 2016, 07:37:30 AM
Latter Day America is fuggin fantastic, eh?!

The Cleveland Show will set a new low, you just wait and see!

The Reckoning approaches, get ready for BITS, it's what will be for breakfast, lunch, dinner and midnight munchies.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2016, 08:17:36 AM
More Colorado fallout.

Didn't need to threaten delegates, just had to pick the right ones...step one, people have no voice, that leads to step two, party controlling delegate selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnHf9STUKV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnHf9STUKV8)

10 second delegate plugs?  Well, sure.  The people who know know the people they need to know.

Back when I participated we had 1 minute.  Same thing, just better hidden than something as shameless as 10 seconds.  Same result though, stacked delegates.

Why anybody would want to belong to either major party is to me a sign of a dangerously weak and feeble mind.

And people already pre-disposed to hating Trump will call this sour grapes, I have no special love for the guy, never thought much of him before this and that hasn't changed...and I see his comments as honest, the process is gamed, anybody not coming to that conclusion no matter what horse they back or not is not being honest.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276054-trump-slams-rnc-chairman-calls-2016-process-a-disgrace (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276054-trump-slams-rnc-chairman-calls-2016-process-a-disgrace)

And good luck getting RNC head doing anything...you'd need a paramedic's jaws-of-life to pry his skull from the establishment butt...same as it ever was.

And 'ol weepy drunk cultist is at the altar again...making me hate his champion for letting this a-hole go on and on with this religious purity test crap again... (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14109.new#new)

What a dick...that pathetic dreck-chucker can up and keel over any second now!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 14, 2016, 07:52:52 AM
As expected by everyone but an E-GOP moron (but I repeat myself) or a Prog...no charges for Trump's guy in Florida Presstitute non-event...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/266651-breaking-trump-campaign-manager-will-not-be-prosecuted-for-alleged-assault-on-michelle-fields/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/266651-breaking-trump-campaign-manager-will-not-be-prosecuted-for-alleged-assault-on-michelle-fields/)

But, for all establishment types the allegation is all that matters, job well done, can sleep soundly, eh?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 14, 2016, 10:20:55 AM
One of the consequences of this election season is that my estimation of Moonbattery.com has dropped considerably.  I understand preferring Ted Cruz.  I get that.  But for the past few months virtually every post over there has been a takedown of Trump, and some of the tactics are exactly like what the MSM has done to all Republicans for years.  It's rather disappointing from a site I used to respect.

They even went so far as to say that Hillary would be better -- and they did not mean from a "worse is better" angle either.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 14, 2016, 11:19:39 AM
One of the consequences of this election season is that my estimation of Moonbattery.com has dropped considerably.  I understand preferring Ted Cruz.  I get that.  But for the past few months virtually every post over there has been a takedown of Trump, and some of the tactics are exactly like what the MSM has done to all Republicans for years.  It's rather disappointing from a site I used to respect.

They even went so far as to say that Hillary would be better -- and they did not mean from a "worse is better" angle either.

Yeah, it is illuminating (in a nuclear fireball kind of way) how easily the Establishment is using Cruz and Cruz supporters to bring down Trump by any means necessary and that Cruz and Cruz supporters are deluded enough to think this sews it up for their guy...like somehow when they all roll into Cleveland the Cruz coronation is effected and nah nah nah nah nah...

It is going to be hilarious seeing these folks get effed over...and then get effed again as yet another Establishment ticket goes on to lose to the next scum-sucking-low-life-bucket-of-proglodyte-scat to ooze out of the DNC pukefest!

And I am pissed and disappointed that Ted hasn't told that weepy batshyt lunatic Beck to STFD and STFU.

But, you lie down with dogs...

 ::smallestviolin::

Oh well, this is our Bad Emperor phase, get used to more and more batshyt.

ETA - Here is a another dog for your consideration...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/wow-anti-trump-rnc-delegate-says-shell-vote-hillary-trump-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/wow-anti-trump-rnc-delegate-says-shell-vote-hillary-trump-video/)

Yup, might get crabs and scabbies and God knows what else from that bitch!  Y'all in the Anybody-But-Trump crowd better get checked out!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 14, 2016, 01:22:23 PM
They are delusional if they think Cruz is going to beat Hillary.  The MSM is going to pull out all the usual tactics and they will have Cruz painted with all the stereotypical descriptions: nerdy, a square, a Bible thumper, and so on.  They would do it to Trump too, the difference is that Trump has in a way become almost immune to it, and if anything seems energized by their smear campaigns.

I shouldn't even really care, because (hat tip Western Rifle Shooters Association) TINVOWOOT -- There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on April 14, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
Well, count me as delusional then, because I believe Trump and Cruz, and all of their supporters, many of whom will be on the rules committee, will not allow rule 40 to be changed.  Then the fight becomes purely over delegates. And no matter if the rules committee tries to change rule 40, the WHOLE convention votes on the rules change.  No Cruz supporter nor Trump supporter will vote for it, and they will have most of the delegates there. Will there be a few party hacks that might support it, sure. But, I cannot see them getting a majority.

And I think Cruz is smarter, more prepared, and has people already working in all the right spots. He is also the only one with a national campaign team in place.

He has out played Trump, not because the rules were changed to defeat Trump, but because Trump doesn't care about the rules. That is a quote from Trump, btw, "I don't care about the rules."

Now, if Trump manages to pull this out in spite of himself, I have pretty much decided to hold my nose and vote for him.  I just pray that if it goes to Cruz, the Trump supporters will do what ever they must and vote for Cruz.  #neverhillary
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2016, 07:25:03 AM
Having been through part of this process before, I think in a macro-sense there is no such thing as a completely bound and loyal delegate.  And certain parties have been engineering towards this goal for many months.  I think the safe bet is to expect anything...which is another way of saying get used to the idea of being let down again.

Bad Emperor Phase, it didn't happen overnight or by accident.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2016, 07:47:04 AM
It's a little unsettling when I find myself agreeing with Ann Coulter on something, and while I have no illusions over the true nature of her hostility towards Cruz, I must admit I cannot find any area of disagreement with the essential facts of this latest article on the Cruz-Trump cage AWA cage fight.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-04-13.html (http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-04-13.html)

Latest delegate shenanigans - Georgia.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/17/donald-trump-ted-cruz-georgia-attack-delegates/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/17/donald-trump-ted-cruz-georgia-attack-delegates/)

The thing about no set rules and loopholes...they have a tendency to increase in scope and use...and while some people may look the other way while it benefits their champion, fate can be a fickle bitch and turn on you in no time flat...and then the cries of unfairness from a new party get beaten down into dust.

Thus it will always be under decaying Republics, until they finally collapse, and nothing speeds it along faster than corrupt democracy.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on April 18, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
Both Ann and Trumpbart should know better.  There are FIFTY separate state parties, whose rules are set BY the party that is elected in that state.  The system is designed PURPOSEFULLY to require someone to demonstrate their ability to run a campaign. Because in the general election there will be FIFTY states with their own election laws that have to be followed too.

The other advantage to a state party setting it up so that those who actually WORK in the party have a small  part of the influence, because they are on the boards, chairmanships, treasurers, etc....of each county, is that these are the people who will be working the general election. And without their work, many people do not get to the polls.  So, almost each state requires you to win at three levels.  Trump has ignored this at his own peril.  Cruz learned it quickly. (He had only run ONE previous campaign,) but he did out organize 16 other people in this election.

Trump stood on the national stage and excused his three bankruptcies as "I just used the rules!" Well, that really stunk for the people he screwed out of all that money.  Now, when the rules have been too complex for him to get his tiny hands around, he does not care about the rules? No sympathy from me, sorry. 

Remember, if he wins outright, he wins. And he just might. But, Cruz has been smart enough to play on every field.  And he did not have to tell me how smart he is. It is obvious.  Trump may need to tell me a little louder. Frankly, I think no one is more surprised than he is that he made it this far. If he had thought he was going to he would have built a campaign.  Cruz clearly thought he would make it this far, because he DID build a campaign and it is a strong one that will be ready for the general election. We have a chance to win that election, but I do not believe it is with Mr. Trump. And he is not even a conservative.  He is a populist and I am fearful of a government that goes whatever way the wind blows on any given day.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 18, 2016, 03:46:38 PM
If Cruz wins the nomination you're about to behold the entire MSM suddenly become committed Birthers.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on April 18, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Sure, what else is new? They always do that, the concept of fighting the GOP Nominee by the MSM is not new. People warned, me among them, that Sen. McCain was not the media darling he thought he was, and that they would turn on him the moment the nomination was secured. Guess what happened?  I cannot choose who I support based on who I think THEY might support, otherwise I'd be team Sanders.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 19, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
Since I am of the opinion that just about nothing matters at this point given the corrupt systems at play on all stages and sectors, the Rubicon having been crossed multiple times in succession, all one direction...I'm taking the attitude of mocking the entire theatrical performance.  It's like watching a crash in slow motion, everybody knows what is going to happen regardless if they admit it publicly or privately or not at all, some may even be unconscious to it, too stunned or bored to care. All the players are all sticking their scripts, the motions being made...the results the same.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on April 19, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
The Elites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6ebNd9v-w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6ebNd9v-w&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 19, 2016, 02:09:24 PM
Since I am of the opinion that just about nothing matters at this point given the corrupt systems at play on all stages and sectors, the Rubicon having been crossed multiple times in succession, all one direction...I'm taking the attitude of mocking the entire theatrical performance.  It's like watching a crash in slow motion, everybody knows what is going to happen regardless if they admit it publicly or privately or not at all, some may even be unconscious to it, too stunned or bored to care. All the players are all sticking their scripts, the motions being made...the results the same.


Exactly this.

I'm in favor of rank, unprincipled, self-serving populism strictly for the entertainment value at this point.  Why shouldn't a reality TV host become the president?  America is itself an absurd reality TV show.


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5kW74Er_4o#)


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 19, 2016, 09:32:18 PM
Heh! Good stuff G.

And how long will these results last?

http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/)

SMOD will like Cleveland, one spot is as good as another.

Time for another humor break -

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html (http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 20, 2016, 11:34:40 AM
There's something therapeutic about giving in to nihilistic fatalism, isn't there?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2016, 05:38:42 PM
It's not healthy to deny reality.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 20, 2016, 06:43:24 PM
  There are two people running I'll vote for, the third never.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 20, 2016, 10:24:38 PM
Heh! Good stuff G.

And how long will these results last?

http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/)

SMOD will like Cleveland, one spot is as good as another.

Time for another humor break -

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html (http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html)
For all those that tote the pure fiction Trump can beat Hitlery in the general...Hillary doubled up on Trumpf getting well over a million votes and this was in Jew York. Have some unicorn flatulence  I need to sell...anyone interested?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2016, 10:34:21 PM
Heh! Good stuff G.

And how long will these results last?

http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/ (http://iotwreport.com/trump-wins-ny-handily-cruz-distant-third/)

SMOD will like Cleveland, one spot is as good as another.

Time for another humor break -

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html (http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/just-a-propos-trump-t17868.html)
For all those that tote the pure fiction Trump can beat Hitlery in the general...Hillary doubled up on Trumpf getting well over a million votes and this was in Jew York. Have some unicorn flatulence  I need to sell...anyone interested?

Self-loathing liberal Jews in NY, be accurate.  SSDD. Ted finished a distant 3rd, and unicorns are as real as valid votes. None of that is news.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 21, 2016, 10:23:11 AM
I think the take-home story here is not that this or that Republican can or can't beat Hillary.  The story is no Republican can beat any Democrat.  We've reached that point.  It's demographically impossible for a Republican to take the White House.  The Left won the Culture War, and they won it handily.  The political changes are simply inevitable consequences of the cultural changes.

The country is way too brown now.  They will pursue the fantasy of replicating European democratic socialism, with White Cosmics (tm) leading the way, but to the extent that it's at all doable in Europe it's because Europe is Europe and populated by Europeans (though for not much longer).

Here it will end up much more like Latin American socialism, and for the same reason -- because the population is Latin American.  It's going to be a fustercluck.  As long as it erodes the competence of the central government, it might end up being useful.

It's simple, really.  The level of advancement and quality of life in America is directly proportional to its white population.  The browner this country gets, the more like a Brazilian slum it gets.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 21, 2016, 11:42:54 AM
Agreed.

If "winning" elections in latter day America is all one cares about, clearly there is only one candidate you should cast a pointless vote at - the Democrat.

If you want to throw a wrench at the monkey, at least make it wrench that will muck up as much as possible, no more unsatisfying forays into futile political stupidity!

Let Hildabest sit in the chair when it all goes to shyt!

I am looking forward to not working for my paycheck.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 21, 2016, 08:53:20 PM
I think the take-home story here is not that this or that Republican can or can't beat Hillary.  The story is no Republican can beat any Democrat.  We've reached that point.  It's demographically impossible for a Republican to take the White House.  The Left won the Culture War, and they won it handily.  The political changes are simply inevitable consequences of the cultural changes.

The country is way too brown now.  They will pursue the fantasy of replicating European democratic socialism, with White Cosmics (tm) leading the way, but to the extent that it's at all doable in Europe it's because Europe is Europe and populated by Europeans (though for not much longer).

Here it will end up much more like Latin American socialism, and for the same reason -- because the population is Latin American.  It's going to be a fustercluck.  As long as it erodes the competence of the central government, it might end up being useful.

It's simple, really.  The level of advancement and quality of life in America is directly proportional to its white population.  The browner this country gets, the more like a Brazilian slum it gets.
Bullsh*t! If you're going to nominate nothing but progressive Repuclicans then you're looking to lose the election 2008, 2012 anybody. Conservatives get elected when the people get their heads out of their asses and pay attention to the issues. Most of them are little better than the morons on the other side.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 21, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
The browner this country gets, the more like a Brazilian slum it gets.

Well the more Third world the population gets, the more third world the the country gets. Its the culture correlated with the skin color that is the real  problem- I figure that is what you really mean, but framing it in terms of race is playing into the enemies hand. They desperately  WANT it to be about race, because if it  becomes about behavior, values and character they loose.

Its not Mexicans, or undocumented workers or illegal aliens - its criminals. Make it about the behavior. They BROKE THE LAW. They committed a CRIME. .a crime for which -- in any other country  - especially Mexico-- you would be imprisoned  and forgotten  or your relatives would pay a ransom to collect you.

Yeah, to the libtards it means nothing, but to the uneducated Kardashian watcher it might make a difference.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 22, 2016, 07:06:55 AM
I doubt it makes a dent with them...been harping on the criminal angle for decades, nobody gives a rats ass...ranchers on the front lines get zip for support, nobody gives a rats ass...Progs and their State-run media chant "racist" at all attempts to characterize the filth oozing over as "criminal", they are trying to sanitize the accurate term "illegal" from official and societal lexicons (just like they are with the terms "islamic" and "terror" in the same sentence), nobody gives a rats ass...a candidate wants to seal the border and send them back, he's a racist/sexist extremists, and people who should know better go along with that shyt, nobody gives a rats ass!

I no longer give a rats ass either, and waiting for people to wake up when every single piece of evidence speaks to the contrary is IMO dangerously naive.  Why wait for a train that will never come?  Phuck 'em, I'm moving on, got other/better plans.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
Some of the best news I've heard yet! 

“I have never been more worried about the Republican Party breaking apart than I am today.” - Ms Grahamnesty

http://www.weaselzippers.us/268283-lindsey-graham-gop-is-at-risk-of-breaking-apart/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/268283-lindsey-graham-gop-is-at-risk-of-breaking-apart/)

 ::whoohoo::   ::thumbsup::   ::cool::   :D   ::beertoast::   ;)   ::newyear::   ::bustamove::   ::popcorn::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 25, 2016, 12:38:39 PM
Continuing to give any legitimacy to this political process is the problem.  It prevents people from accepting hard truths.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on April 25, 2016, 02:11:43 PM
 I see Cruz and Kasich are cooking up some sort of alliance to block Trump. Typical politicians. Screw em all. Money and power. I run into so many stupid people. It's a game with my brother and I now, especially when politics is mentioned when we are in the room. Exact same with religion now. Stupidity abounds. If it isn't the pope pumping global warming its some preacher telling me I don't "share" the love of God because I believe homosexuality is sin and it's really not a good idea to cater to transgenders.

Hell will be overflowing with the stupid people with oh so good intentions.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2016, 08:34:52 AM
Hell always has room.

But, some might have to go through Canada first!

"Now I have to get elected because I'll be doing a great service to our country," he said. "Now it's much more important. In fact, I'll immediately get off this call and start campaigning right now."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-ill-do-country-a-great-service-by-winning-if-rosie-leaves-222437 (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-ill-do-country-a-great-service-by-winning-if-rosie-leaves-222437)

Heh!

And that pact with the Devil seems to be fraying, seems Cruz & Kasich still want to beat each other, not just deny Trump.

Yeah, that's a shame.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 26, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
Hell always has room.

But, some might have to go through Canada first!

"Now I have to get elected because I'll be doing a great service to our country," he said. "Now it's much more important. In fact, I'll immediately get off this call and start campaigning right now."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-ill-do-country-a-great-service-by-winning-if-rosie-leaves-222437 (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-ill-do-country-a-great-service-by-winning-if-rosie-leaves-222437)

Heh!

And that pact with the Devil seems to be fraying, seems Cruz & Kasich still want to beat each other, not just deny Trump.

Yeah, that's a shame.
It was never anything more than was presented from the get go. Dumb ass douche bags over at every pro-Trumpf site made it into a collusion to "cheat" Herr Trumpf from his crown. The only crown this ass clown needs is one made from lead.

I can't wait until this clown gets his liberal/progressive ass the hell out of town! ::cussing::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2016, 04:00:54 PM
What difference does it make?

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/beware_of_elephonkey_zpsgyyo6kzl.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/TeamRandD_zpsitmov8zf.jpeg)

Come on SMOD!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/astroid_zpsx4urryuj.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/biggest%20boom_zpsvj8hq6gg.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 27, 2016, 08:01:42 AM
Cruz mathematically eliminated, Trump assured of going into Cleveland with the most delegates, now we'll see all those previous pronouncements materialize into unity or vaporize into chaos, pick one.

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 27, 2016, 08:03:45 AM
What difference does it make?

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/beware_of_elephonkey_zpsgyyo6kzl.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/TeamRandD_zpsitmov8zf.jpeg)

Come on SMOD!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/astroid_zpsx4urryuj.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/biggest%20boom_zpsvj8hq6gg.gif)
if you're right, why even have the category of politics and for that matter why have the entire forum since most of the other categories can be folded into the thousands of other sites that cater to each?

Finally, a clear distinct choice is given between a constructionist and a progressive Hillary clone with testicles...they choose the clone with balls. ::bashing::
Been bitching about it for years and when the choice is given, they choose the fascist and for what reason I ask. Because Wall, America will be great again, force companies to bring those jobs back, tariffs(worked out so well with Smoot/Hauley), bank bailouts, abortion on demand, universal healthcare, government education....A Twilight Zone theme!

Shouldn't we change the name of the forum to "It's About Tyranny"? Maybe that's to extreme so I'll give it some further thought and get back to you. ::thinking::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 27, 2016, 08:10:54 AM
Cruz mathematically eliminated, Trump assured of going into Cleveland with the most delegates, now we'll see all those previous pronouncements materialize into unity or vaporize into chaos, pick one.

 ::popcorn::
Big deal, he goes into Cleveland with a plurality but will it be a 1237 majority? A definite maybe, time will tell. Lincoln came to his convention with 20% and Harding 7% and both became POTUS.

Herr Trumpf's persona turns off Likely GOP voters like Hillary's does so we'll see how that plays out in the convention with 2nd round plus voting.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 27, 2016, 09:28:28 AM
Cruz mathematically eliminated, Trump assured of going into Cleveland with the most delegates, now we'll see all those previous pronouncements materialize into unity or vaporize into chaos, pick one.

 ::popcorn::
Big deal, he goes into Cleveland with a plurality but will it be a 1237 majority? A definite maybe, time will tell. Lincoln came to his convention with 20% and Harding 7% and both became POTUS.

Herr Trumpf's persona turns off Likely GOP voters like Hillary's does so we'll see how that plays out in the convention with 2nd round plus voting.

Heh!  He already has 100k more votes than the Mittster gathered.  Not that any of this matters.

The mood I am in chaos would suit me just fine.  Time we got to rat-killin' and put all this childish shyt away!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 27, 2016, 10:44:05 AM
Cruz mathematically eliminated, Trump assured of going into Cleveland with the most delegates, now we'll see all those previous pronouncements materialize into unity or vaporize into chaos, pick one.

 ::popcorn::
Big deal, he goes into Cleveland with a plurality but will it be a 1237 majority? A definite maybe, time will tell. Lincoln came to his convention with 20% and Harding 7% and both became POTUS.

Herr Trumpf's persona turns off Likely GOP voters like Hillary's does so we'll see how that plays out in the convention with 2nd round plus voting.

Heh!  He already has 100k more votes than the Mittster gathered.  Not that any of this matters.

The mood I am in chaos would suit me just fine.  Time we got to rat-killin' and put all this childish shyt away!
Great! With Trump the nominee, Hillary skins his orange ass and we can do the killing that needs to be done. ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 27, 2016, 11:00:21 AM
Cruz mathematically eliminated, Trump assured of going into Cleveland with the most delegates, now we'll see all those previous pronouncements materialize into unity or vaporize into chaos, pick one.

 ::popcorn::
Big deal, he goes into Cleveland with a plurality but will it be a 1237 majority? A definite maybe, time will tell. Lincoln came to his convention with 20% and Harding 7% and both became POTUS.

Herr Trumpf's persona turns off Likely GOP voters like Hillary's does so we'll see how that plays out in the convention with 2nd round plus voting.

Heh!  He already has 100k more votes than the Mittster gathered.  Not that any of this matters.

The mood I am in chaos would suit me just fine.  Time we got to rat-killin' and put all this childish shyt away!
Great! With Trump the nominee, Hillary skins his orange ass and we can do the killing that needs to be done. ::thumbsup::

Or with _______________ as the nominee vs Hillary, same diff. 

Red Team - Stupid, Blue Team - Really Stupid, But Too Stupid to Care.

Booyah!

Like Chesty Puller said when he was surrounded by Japs..."We got 'em right where we want 'em!".

Fire in all directions!   ::machinegun::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on April 27, 2016, 05:35:22 PM
Great! With Trump the nominee, Hillary skins his orange ass and we can do the killing that needs to be done. ::thumbsup::

I don't know. Since Trump is immune to PC bullspit, he'll be saying a LOT of things about Hitlary that can't be denied.

I still shudder at the thought of him as the candidate.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 27, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
  I'm to where I don't care who as long as it isn't not she who should never be named.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 28, 2016, 11:26:46 AM
So the ex-Speaker, the Great Weeping Carrot, has unloaded on Cruz -- calling him "Lucifer" and a "miserable son of a bitch."

We know the GOP nominee is likely to be either Cruz or Trump, and both are still being attacked from their own party?  Why would the Boners of the world be so intent on undermining their own party's nominee?

Why, it's almost as if the whole thing is about as authentic as Wrestlemania....
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 28, 2016, 11:37:23 AM
Yup, more proof in my eyes that The Establishment was using Cruz all along merely to slow down Trump and that if Cruz would be leading now and not Trump they'd be doing it the other way around.  In another era I would argue a vote for any non-leading candidate is a wasted vote, but given the sorry-assed state of affairs we are in essentially any vote is a wasted vote.

And in more hilarious news...I just had to laugh my ass off when I heard this announcement!

http://iotwreport.com/cruz-picks-non-conservative-carly-fiorina/ (http://iotwreport.com/cruz-picks-non-conservative-carly-fiorina/)

This is like the Minnesota Twins announcing World Series tickets go on sale tomorrow!

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

Oh, man...are the last days ever a fricken hoot!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on April 28, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
Yeah I saw that too.  Kind of smells of desperation, IMO.  "Look, we've got a vagina on our ticket too!"

She's an H1B-pushing, DREAM Act promoting, Muslim apologist.  Seems like Ted could have picked better.  Or not at all, not at this stage of the game.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 28, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Far as I can tell the most common response seems to be a deafening yawn!

 ::laughonfloor::

#ThatsTheOnlyVaginaYouCanFind?

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on April 28, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
So the ex-Speaker, the Great Weeping Carrot, has unloaded on Cruz -- calling him "Lucifer" and a "miserable son of a bitch."

We know the GOP nominee is likely to be either Cruz or Trump, and both are still being attacked from their own party?  Why would the Boners of the world be so intent on undermining their own party's nominee?

Why, it's almost as if the whole thing is about as authentic as Wrestlemania....

The weeping carrot might as well tattoo "establishment" on his ass. I won't call the Carrot Lucifer ( but I believe he works for him) but I will call him a miserable son of a bitch.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on April 28, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
So the ex-Speaker, the Great Weeping Carrot, has unloaded on Cruz -- calling him "Lucifer" and a "miserable son of a bitch."

We know the GOP nominee is likely to be either Cruz or Trump, and both are still being attacked from their own party?  Why would the Boners of the world be so intent on undermining their own party's nominee?

Why, it's almost as if the whole thing is about as authentic as Wrestlemania....

The weeping carrot might as well tattoo "establishment" on his ass. I won't call the Carrot Lucifer ( but I believe he works for him) but I will call him a miserable son of a bitch.

   Second that. The SOB spent his time golfing with the Devil and he has the stones to say this. He hated Cruz because he would not play ball in the senate. And it seems that the Honerable Peter King from N.Y. is backing boner.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 29, 2016, 01:18:09 PM
Great! With Trump the nominee, Hillary skins his orange ass and we can do the killing that needs to be done. ::thumbsup::

I don't know. Since Trump is immune to PC bullspit, he'll be saying a LOT of things about Hitlary that can't be denied.

I still shudder at the thought of him as the candidate.
Has the thought that Hillera having sh*t on Herr Drumpf  stacked 500 feet in the air escape you. The man was and is good friends with that family of scum. They all run in the same circle of friends. Ask yourself, will he really sh*t all over them and if he does, will he just do it for political gain? He is iin his heart a DemonRat and nothing on this planet will alter that.

When you get called a good texting and golf buddy by Crying John Boehner Peter King, both the RINO's to target and knock off what does that say about you claim  to be an outsider? When you Call Cruz Lucifer and an SOB what does that say about Cruz? When one claims Cruz wouldn't work with them on the Sandy Relief Bill, what does that say? My brain is still functioning at present so I understand who the insiders really are.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on April 29, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
So the ex-Speaker, the Great Weeping Carrot, has unloaded on Cruz -- calling him "Lucifer" and a "miserable son of a bitch."

We know the GOP nominee is likely to be either Cruz or Trump, and both are still being attacked from their own party?  Why would the Boners of the world be so intent on undermining their own party's nominee?

Why, it's almost as if the whole thing is about as authentic as Wrestlemania....

The weeping carrot might as well tattoo "establishment" on his ass. I won't call the Carrot Lucifer ( but I believe he works for him) but I will call him a miserable son of a bitch.

   Second that. The SOB spent his time golfing with the Devil and he has the stones to say this. He hated Cruz because he would not play ball in the senate. And it seems that the Honerable Peter King from N.Y. is backing boner.
BINGO ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 30, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
Per earlier point, perhaps we should rename this is the fantasy thread.

America as it was is gone, it is not coming back, not without blood.

My folks are deep in denial, they think they have a choice, that their voice/vote matters.  They are anybody-but-trumpers who loath Clinton, which I guess means they are voting third party, which means Clinton wins, so no matter what Clinton wins....so whose voice/vote matters?

Not ours, so what's the point? Crash this joke, end the charade...and let the only fight that matters commence.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on May 01, 2016, 09:56:51 AM
Here's your outsider Trump and Rove's Crossroads  groupfunding both the DemonRats and the establishment
http://theresurgent.com/in-2013-and-2014-donald-trump-was-funding-john-boehner-mitch-mcconnell-against-the-tea-party/ (http://theresurgent.com/in-2013-and-2014-donald-trump-was-funding-john-boehner-mitch-mcconnell-against-the-tea-party/)

Quote
In 2013, the tea party rallied to Matt Bevin against Donald Trump. RedState and tea party groups around the country swung into action in an ultimately unsuccessful bid to get Matt Bevin through the primary against Mitch McConnell. We were completely out-funded by establishment interests and Washington lobbyists.

It turns out, one of those establishment interests was Donald J. Trump.

In 2013, Donald Trump gave $220,000.00 to organizations, many of them dedicated to stamping out the Tea Party. From Karl Rove’s American Crossroads to Mitch McConnell’s Super PAC, Trump spread out money. Rove got $50,000.00 and McConnell got $60,000.00. Trump also wrote a check to McConnell’s campaign directly for $5,200.00.

What’s more, Trump also gave $100,000.00 to the Congressional Leadership Fund, a Republican Establishment PAC that was created to crush conservatives at the behest of John Boehner.

Running as an anti-establishment Republican now and courting Sarah Palin is a distraction from two stark facts.

In 2010, with the rise of the Tea Party, Trump supported Democrats against conservatives.
In 2014, Donald Trump supported the Republican Establishment as it sought to crush the tea party and conservatives.
It is seriously disingenuous to think Trump is somehow now against the very candidates and organizations he funded just two years ago — candidates and politicians he is already again starting to say nice things about.

There's your fantasy...Trump the Grate holding hands with the Rats and the rat light party in the progressive wing of the GOP. I'll have none of this bullsh*t that Trump will be anything other than the standard bearer for the progressive left from either party. Anyone that is votes for Trump has been willingly led by their nose to the slaughter. The man is a filthy liar conning millions!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on May 01, 2016, 11:34:20 AM
The man was and is good friends with that family of scum. They all run in the same circle of friends. Ask yourself, will he really sh*t all over them and if he does, will he just do it for political gain? He is iin his heart a DemonRat and nothing on this planet will alter that.

I have no doubt he's a Dem at heart. I also know he likes to win and would PROBABLY throw Hitlery under the bus to do so. Maybe.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 01, 2016, 01:50:44 PM
I just keep hearing reasons not to participate in corrupt systems any longer. Am I wrong?

SMOD2016
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on May 01, 2016, 11:22:32 PM
I just keep hearing reasons not to participate in corrupt systems any longer. Am I wrong?

SMOD2016


You're not wrong.  The longer this sh*tshow limps along, the worse our prospects for fixing it become.  They know this and are banking on it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2016, 06:57:41 AM
I just keep hearing reasons not to participate in corrupt systems any longer. Am I wrong?

SMOD2016


You're not wrong.  The longer this sh*tshow limps along, the worse our prospects for fixing it become.  They know this and are banking on it.

It irritates me like nothing else why so many, too many people...fail to see that, or seeing it, fail to understand it and what needs to be done.

No doubt generations before me throughout time who saw this the same way were likely just as frustrated and seething mad at the folly of their contemporaries.

As long as people willingly don the veil of ingorance, this sorry-assed sh*tshow is going to keep limping along...until it can limp no longer...and usually when one waits that long before realization smacks them square in the puss it is usually too late to do jack sh*t about it.

Oh, well...some lessons were meant to be absorbed as brutally as possible , eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2016, 07:02:01 AM
The humor just keeps on rolling...

Want to know who to blame for Cruz coming up short?

In part Cruz himself for hitching his star to fickle bagmen, fickle bagmen thanks to Mitt Romney and to Jeb Bush!


Now, at perhaps the most desperate moment in his quest to win the Republican nomination, Cruz is learning the perils of relying on strong-willed magnates who carry their own agendas and have demanded an unprecedented level of control in how their money is spent.

One of the three primary donors to Cruz’s presidential efforts, a private equity manager who recruited the other two top donors, has refrained from spending the vast majority of his $10 million contribution to bolster the Cruz campaign. He is instead fighting openly with the top strategist for the super PACs that were set up to spend the money.

The man at the center of the fight, Toby Neugebauer, is a close friend of Cruz and his wife, Heidi. Neugebauer and his own wife have vacationed with the Cruzes, and he still counts himself a major supporter. But he has refused to spend $9 million of the $10 million he put into a super PAC.

After Citizens United and other court decisions opened the door to nearly unlimited campaign donations, many donors became frustrated with the control they surrendered to campaign consultants, who blew through millions of dollars on TV ads in a fruitless effort to elect Mitt Romney in 2012. This year, an outside group supporting former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush spent more than $100 million from big donors in a disastrous endeavor that saw Bush  falter as soon as the first primary voters went to the polls.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-cruz-donors-20160502-snap-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-cruz-donors-20160502-snap-story.html)

Dogs-fleas...this is my shocked face - - ->   ::hysterical::

"The System" is and will always be the Establishments playground, period.  Choosing to rely upon it is always going to be a mistake.

But hey, his honeybunch is a Goldman-Sachs elitist from Harvard and a Euro jet-set baby and those big money connections counted for not much.  Almost makes one think they were only teasing, eh?


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on May 03, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
Quote
But hey, his honeybunch is a Goldman-Sachs elitist from Harvard and a Euro jet-set baby and those big money connections counted for not much.  Almost makes one think they were only teasing, eh?
What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2016, 09:44:13 PM
Quote
But hey, his honeybunch is a Goldman-Sachs elitist from Harvard and a Euro jet-set baby and those big money connections counted for not much.  Almost makes one think they were only teasing, eh?
What's that supposed to mean?

It means Establishment money connections (Heidi's pals on Wall St) failed, due to intentional sabotage or incompetence.

A soon to be forgotten footnote, Cruz suspended his campaign.

Trump, Hitlery, SMOD...what difference does it make?  The only good news here is perhaps that boob Beck will return to obscurity.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on May 03, 2016, 09:54:10 PM
Quote
But hey, his honeybunch is a Goldman-Sachs elitist from Harvard and a Euro jet-set baby and those big money connections counted for not much.  Almost makes one think they were only teasing, eh?
What's that supposed to mean?

It means Establishment money connections (Heidi's pals on Wall St) failed, due to intentional sabotage or incompetence.

A soon to be forgotten footnote, Cruz suspended his campaign.

Trump, Hitlery, SMOD...what difference does it make?  The only good news here is perhaps that boob Beck will return to obscurity.
Oh I see. So working with customers and their portfolios was just a front when she was secretly a VP. ::foilhathelicopter:: How about a bucket of slightly used sand, low price just for you?

Do I take it you believe Ted's father was with Oswald before the assassination of JFK?
What the f**k are you smoking up there in the land of loons? Have I missed the radioactive meteorite MN impact story? Funny nobody mentioned anything like that on the news. Must be the water then.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on May 03, 2016, 10:00:18 PM
One step closer to President Hillary Clinton........................

 ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on May 04, 2016, 12:01:08 AM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy28/gobears1997/cfd83ba5a1e706786c9b8365744c1f6f_zpsx6sifiom.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: warpmine on May 04, 2016, 06:51:17 AM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy28/gobears1997/cfd83ba5a1e706786c9b8365744c1f6f_zpsx6sifiom.jpg)
That's about the hist of it but I sincerely doubt you'll see me at a polling station that Tuesday.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 06:55:51 AM
Quote
But hey, his honeybunch is a Goldman-Sachs elitist from Harvard and a Euro jet-set baby and those big money connections counted for not much.  Almost makes one think they were only teasing, eh?
What's that supposed to mean?

It means Establishment money connections (Heidi's pals on Wall St) failed, due to intentional sabotage or incompetence.

A soon to be forgotten footnote, Cruz suspended his campaign.

Trump, Hitlery, SMOD...what difference does it make?  The only good news here is perhaps that boob Beck will return to obscurity.
Oh I see. So working with customers and their portfolios was just a front when she was secretly a VP. ::foilhathelicopter:: How about a bucket of slightly used sand, low price just for you?

Do I take it you believe Ted's father was with Oswald before the assassination of JFK?
What the f**k are you smoking up there in the land of loons? Have I missed the radioactive meteorite MN impact story? Funny nobody mentioned anything like that on the news. Must be the water then.

Dude, I made a snarky observation, I didn't know youz twoz were such pals.  I'm not the one smoking anything, I think Ted showed spectacularly poor judgement in trusting the Establishment Class (which is surprising given the fact that his political career has been all about pissing off the Establishment, his wife's standing within it being odd but not a hinderance to this point) as was his choice not to reign in his Holier-than-thou father and that fool Beck who basically said anybody professing to be a Christian better vote for Ted or they are a Satan-worshipping pos.  I think those three things, well, picking the Liberal Republican Fiorina for a fictional post was a desperate gambit that failed to bring droves of vagina's to the polls being the fourth thing, that sunk Ted.  I would have been OK with his nomination had he got it, I still think he is ineligible, but hey McCain and Obama and those that agree with the Corrupt Bargain have so lowered the bar that any asshole can and will be POTUS, but he blew it.  He should have been the holder of the Outsider crown, but he failed.  So stow the smoke talk, OK?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 07:13:19 AM
One step closer to President Hillary Clinton........................

 ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke::

The beatings will continue...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/Hillaryscrape_zpsb6f7545b.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/suggestion-box_zpsnbdoknal.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on May 04, 2016, 07:14:30 AM
25 days and counting until I'm out of here.  Good luck, America.  And let me know if you ever decide to return to a nation of adults, ever again.

 ::upsidedownflag::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 07:16:19 AM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy28/gobears1997/cfd83ba5a1e706786c9b8365744c1f6f_zpsx6sifiom.jpg)

(http://11886-presscdn-0-22.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/NEVERTRUMP.jpg)

*Not advocating, just educating.  Y'all are adults...do wtf you want!

The ultimate candidate for these times still IMO is -

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Demotivation/COmlPmBVAAALWI__zpsywwgddm9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
25 days and counting until I'm out of here.  Good luck, America.  And let me know if you ever decide to return to a nation of adults, ever again.

 ::upsidedownflag::

I wouldn't count on that MNHawk, the end is clear, just not sure of the timing.  I'll bet those 25 days both go fast and drag painfully slow at parts.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on May 04, 2016, 01:26:36 PM
25 days and counting until I'm out of here.  Good luck, America.  And let me know if you ever decide to return to a nation of adults, ever again.

 ::upsidedownflag::

   Have you decided where you'll go?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on May 04, 2016, 01:31:43 PM
So it's the Trumpster......mainly because Cruz became unhinged, said and did all sorts of wild things. Too bad, I was looking forward to fasting and praying with glen beck, laying hands on my radio and maybe calling in and speaking in tongues. Too bad he didn't get that bright idea with Mitt, he most assuredly would be President today.

So....I'm taking this one step at a time. Gotta find your fun where you can in this screwed up world. He said he will now focus on the hildabeast, which should be one hell of a good time.

Oh.....I like the meme of trump holding the gun but instead of telling faggots to get in, we will make America great again, it would be much more effective if it read " ok faggots ( and all associated with fagdom), dispite you we will now make America great again".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on May 04, 2016, 03:34:48 PM
Well,  I am not crazy about Trump,  but if he helps end this stupidity that has become presidential elections, it will be worth it.   The two party system needs to be blown up.   If the cost of ending the Democrat party is the end of the Republican party,  then so be it.

There was no way a President Cruz was going to be able to do that (a President Cruz would have been much like President Bush 2 and you know how that went),  and of course a President Bernie or Hillary want the current nonsense.    The current system has to end or the nation is done.     To be honest,  its probably already too late.

I think its possible Trump will win big.    The problem is,  its also possible he will also lose big.   There will not be a middle ground this time around,  it won't be close.   Trump will need to win a number of blue states to reduce the built in advantage for Democrats.   It could be possible as he does appear to get support from those who otherwise wouldn't vote for a Republican. 

Trump's greatest gift may be that the usual media attacks don't work (yet).    Those wear down all Republican candidates.   It seems to bring Trump energy.

And he likely will be running against a equally disliked Clinton.

The Democrats may be weakened by a contested convention,  something that most had predicted for the Republicans.   Bernie supporters will find out that Hillary is the party pick to matter how the vote went.   They are now the wild card.   What will they do when they find out Bernie is out?   Will they contest at the convention, stay home on election day,  or do the usual fall into line and vote for Hillary?   The Bernie bots seem far less likely to fall into line unlike the Democrat norm.

I think Bernie may actually be harder to beat in the general election if somehow he bumps off Hillary.  If Barry managed to bump her off,  its still possible that Bernie could too. 

I am going to vote for Trump.   

We all know what we get with Bernie and Hillary.   We may get nothing with Trump too, but you never know,  we could get something.   We know we get zip with the Democrats,  so its worth the risk.   At minimum,  the economy will finally show some signs of life.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on May 04, 2016, 03:39:22 PM

I am going to vote for Trump.   

We all know what we get with Bernie and Hillary.   We may get nothing with Trump too, but you never know,  we could get something.   We know we get zip with the Democrats,  so its worth the risk.   At minimum,  the economy will finally show some signs of life.

Sounds like the standard "lesser of two evils"  argument.

Cthulhu 2016 - Why choose the Lesser evil?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
I like the entertainment factor, really, what else is there? Heck, maybe I will have the bourbon and shot glass ready and watch debates.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on May 04, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
The debates should be priceless.....If anything, Trump will call Hillary what she is....and that's a hell of a lot. The media will be calling for blood, every itty bitty faction the dems have will all be offended...there will be lawsuits, dems will riot, Trump will be blamed, it's gonna be great.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on May 04, 2016, 08:24:18 PM
The debates should be priceless.....If anything, Trump will call Hillary what she is....and that's a hell of a lot. The media will be calling for blood, every itty bitty faction the dems have will all be offended...there will be lawsuits, dems will riot, Trump will be blamed, it's gonna be great.

  The great part is that he wont have to make anything up.   ::danceban::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2016, 08:41:08 PM
It will be hilarious watching libs go full tard and not get anything to satisfy their tantrums.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on May 05, 2016, 06:21:16 AM
25 days and counting until I'm out of here.  Good luck, America.  And let me know if you ever decide to return to a nation of adults, ever again.

 ::upsidedownflag::

   Have you decided where you'll go?

Manila to Taiwan back to this, eventually.

http://interaksyon.com/business/121386/construction-of-p1-7-t-clark-green-city-to-start-next-year---bcda (http://interaksyon.com/business/121386/construction-of-p1-7-t-clark-green-city-to-start-next-year---bcda)

Or across the river in Angeles City, if too expensive.  The fun part is, I can take years in figuring out where I'll land.  (http://www.getsmile.com/smiley/seasons/beach.gif)

The funny thing is, they're ready to elect their version of Trump, in which Breitbart has carried several stories about.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 05, 2016, 06:45:37 AM
Oh, yeah..."the Punisher" former boxer...sounds like the Filipino version of Jesse Ventura more than Trump.

They could also have Vice President "Bongbong", son of the late dictator Marcos.  And Manny Pacquiao is running for Senate.

Elections are next week aren't they?  I recall it was early May, that's about all I remember.

Didn't know about this Clark development.  I like the PI, the people and the food...hopefully they don't end up handing everything over to leftist loons or revert to authoritarianism, I'd like to see them independent and prosperous.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on May 05, 2016, 02:30:06 PM
I hope it turns out like Bonifacio Global City, only without the extreme housing expense.

Ya, Bongbong as VP is depressing.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on May 09, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Okay Trump basically said "Of course there will be more, that is what "more" means..

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/9/11639292/donald-trump-default-print-money (http://www.vox.com/2016/5/9/11639292/donald-trump-default-print-money)

Can we stop pretending Trump will make a beneficial difference now?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2016, 11:22:39 AM
Define "benefit"?   ::evil::

ETA - MEM (My Entertainment Matters!)  :D

Trump, doing what Obama failed to, unite the races...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/rapper-azealia-banks-endorses-trump-says-hillary-talks-black-people-like-pets/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/rapper-azealia-banks-endorses-trump-says-hillary-talks-black-people-like-pets/)

Heh!

ETA - More entertainment?  Yes, please!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html)

Pressed into it by ProgWhore Cuomo, but he didn't flinch, fib or fumble.  It is this kind of up-yours attitude many people crave.  There is only one way to deal with hardcore Prog trash like Obama and the Clinton's - constant attack on all sides.  Overload their crisis management team, it's all they have, they don't have "campaign managers", they have damage control, period.  Bombard them, make them keeping doubling-down on idiocy, lies and threats.  Reveal their ugliness for all the see.  Make their puny little heads pop!  Even with all the Presstitutes behind them, all the union of foreign cash and Hollyweirdo's they cannot keep up with an unrelenting attack if it is sustained.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2016, 07:46:26 AM
Heh, Obama slams Trump Wall...Trump responds with solid hook into the jaw of the jackass!


Donald J. Trump
April 28 at 5:00am ·
President Obama understands that you build strong, tall, beautiful walls to keep people out who don't belong. People who get permission can enter the White House LEGALLY!

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10156978027265725 (https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10156978027265725)



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2016, 08:22:05 AM
And this...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-15/gop-finally-gets-it-people-just-dont-care-trump-rewrote-playbook (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-15/gop-finally-gets-it-people-just-dont-care-trump-rewrote-playbook)

Pretty much people don't care what is lobbed at Donald, as long as he fights back, people just don't care, they are that fed up with business as usual...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2016, 08:27:59 AM
And, since it seems to be a Moron Monday...

http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/ (http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/)

sasse/kasich...

Sounds like a neurological disorder...

 ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on May 16, 2016, 04:53:19 PM
And, since it seems to be a Moron Monday...

http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/ (http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/)

sasse/kasich...

Sounds like a neurological disorder...

 ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::


What have we got here.....Establishment types, clamoring they are conservative, recruiting a moderate to find a conservative? And they act like a dog, re visiting their own vomit?  My Gawd.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 17, 2016, 07:08:30 AM
And, since it seems to be a Moron Monday...

http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/ (http://patriotretort.com/please-shut-mitt-romney-up/)

sasse/kasich...

Sounds like a neurological disorder...

 ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::


What have we got here.....Establishment types, clamoring they are conservative, recruiting a moderate to find a conservative? And they act like a dog, re visiting their own vomit?  My Gawd.

Heh!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 17, 2016, 11:37:26 AM
Hildaskank trying to play the wymenz card again...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/271915-hillary-ad-attacks-trump-as-sexist-trump-goes-nuclear/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/271915-hillary-ad-attacks-trump-as-sexist-trump-goes-nuclear/)

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-17-at-8.52.10-AM-550x315.png)

Yeah, and Hildaskank helped cover it all up and threatened/ruined those who tried to speak up for their rights!

BAM!  Down goes Hildaskank!

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3661/1178/original.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 19, 2016, 07:00:57 AM
Heh!

Your run-of-the-mill Pubbie would never speak the truth so boldly!

"By the way, you know, it's not like the worst things, OK," Trump said. "You look at what Clinton's gone through with all of the problems and all of the things that he's done."
Hannity went on to question whether the newspaper would interview women including Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey. All three have accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.
"In one case, it's about exposure. In another case, it's about groping and fondling and touching against a woman's will," Hannity said.
"And rape," Trump responded.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/19/trump-refers-to-alleged-bill-clinton-sexual-indiscretions-as-rape.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/19/trump-refers-to-alleged-bill-clinton-sexual-indiscretions-as-rape.html)

If Hildabeast survives Berniacs and indictments...this is going to be an epic smakckdown.   :D

And, regarding SCROTUS...potential nominees from Hildabest or Berniac are likely to be a nightmare, what was relatively unknown until now is who Trump would consider...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/18/donald-trump-supreme-court-list-conservative-judges (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/18/donald-trump-supreme-court-list-conservative-judges)

...though calling the comparisons to Dread Traitor Roberts especially and to a lesser degree Alito "successful" has to be taken with a grain of salt...certainly the prospective individuals would be preferable to the trash we've been saddled with by the SCoaMF...and certainly better than anything any other Prog would shackle is with.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 25, 2016, 12:12:02 PM
Blinked, bent over...whatever...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/ryan-folds-republican-speaker-ready-endorse-trum (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/ryan-folds-republican-speaker-ready-endorse-trum)

This is an easy call...any open division could imperil re-election status and current standing and power, period.  No other considerations were seriously contemplated beyond that obvious fact.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 25, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
In other news...

Beaners Gone Wild in Albuquerque...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/violent-protesters-throw-rocks-bottles-riot-police-storm-trump-rally-new-mexico (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/violent-protesters-throw-rocks-bottles-riot-police-storm-trump-rally-new-mexico)

They know their open door is closing and getting freaked out over it...yeah, that's too bleeping bad...for them!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on May 25, 2016, 12:47:22 PM
In other news...

Beaners Gone Wild in Albuquerque...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/violent-protesters-throw-rocks-bottles-riot-police-storm-trump-rally-new-mexico (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/violent-protesters-throw-rocks-bottles-riot-police-storm-trump-rally-new-mexico)

They know their open door is closing and getting freaked out over it...yeah, that's too bleeping bad...for them!   ::whoohoo::


Gotta love liberal logic. It's Trump's fault a bunch of illegals and Bernie lovers riot. If A Donald Trump Presidency brings this to a head, then I'm all for it. This country isn't being taken back with a political solution, so let's get this party started and thin the ranks of welfare recipients.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on May 25, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
  Amen!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on May 25, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Yeah...when a libiots says that dreck the only response is "Not a problem for me!" and then enjoy the head popping.

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2016, 07:58:32 AM
This is hilarious...the Trump Effect is getting Hussein to reveal his inner self...

http://youtu.be/mSxo9-Z5Ki0 (http://youtu.be/mSxo9-Z5Ki0)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/wow-obama-tries-trash-donald-trump-turns-stuttering-mess/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/wow-obama-tries-trash-donald-trump-turns-stuttering-mess/)

Long-term drug use and switch-hitting mixed with Prog Dogma probably not helping make this ass-clown any less idiotic!

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

This is going to be so much fun to watch!  Running against the Obama/Biden/Clinton record, watching libiots and Presstitutes go apesh*t, are you kidding me?  This will be the best entertainment we've had in quite a while.

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2016, 07:35:26 AM
PDS - Prog Derangement Syndrome is terminal.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/274999-breaking-massive-riot-outside-san-jose-trump-rally-supporters-injured-by-bottleseggs/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/274999-breaking-massive-riot-outside-san-jose-trump-rally-supporters-injured-by-bottleseggs/)

Mostly La Raza terrorists with a sprinkling of other assorted FSA trash.

I guess in the turd world sh*tholes and domestic sh*tholes this filth was raised in didn't have parents around worth a damn that taught their spawn not to act like sub-human gutter slime.

Can't wait to round 'em up and launch their criminal asses back into Mexico where they belong.

 ::asskicking::

Oh, and ahh...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14239.new#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14239.new#new)

The time to take matters into your own hands is here...when lawlessness is the reality, only the stupid obey corrupt laws and corrupt politicians!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on June 03, 2016, 02:18:51 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680 (http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680)

I'm now officially into the "tone" camp.  There truly is only going to be only one way to end this.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on June 03, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680 (http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680)

I'm now officially into the "tone" camp.  There truly is only going to be only one way to end this.

And you can be sure it AIN'T gonna be purty.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2016, 08:00:29 AM
Mayor Sam Liccardo, the Progtardo assholio who knows nothing of personal responsibility or honor...should promptly find the tallest building close by and hurl himself from its roof and make a pretty Rorschach pattern on the pavement below...it might be the only positive act he could bestow humanity during his dubious reign...

 ::mooning::

I wonder if His Dishonor would blame Kanye or the rioters for this?

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/kanye-west-pop-up-show-turns-chaotic-mob-article-1.2662495 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/kanye-west-pop-up-show-turns-chaotic-mob-article-1.2662495)

 ::saywhat::

Then again, who cares?  He's an ass.  Nothing but hot stinky gasses emanate from an ass!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 09, 2016, 06:58:16 AM
No wonder he was looking for a new job...

http://iotwreport.com/rubio-faces-challenges-if-he-enters-senate-race/ (http://iotwreport.com/rubio-faces-challenges-if-he-enters-senate-race/)

See, once you brush the clover aside and shoo the flies away...hey look, a turd!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 09, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Speaking of turds...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/talk-grows-replacing-trump-convention-000000790.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/talk-grows-replacing-trump-convention-000000790.html)

Erik Erickson and David French...

 ::hysterical::

 ::bus::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
This is gonna be fun!

Warren, a liberal stalwart and favorite of progressive voters, has been a rumored vice presidential pick for Clinton, though she hasn't explicitly expressed interest in the position. But when asked by Maddow if she thinks she's capable of doing the job, she responded, "Yes I do."

Still, Warren has taken on a guard dog role for the Democratic Party in recent weeks, biting back at presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump over his policy positions and vowing to keep his "toxic stew of hatred and insecurity" out of the White House. 

Just before her endorsement, she delivered a scathing speech in Washington, calling Trump a "thin-skinned, racist bully."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282974-warren-endorses-clinton (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282974-warren-endorses-clinton)

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-10-at-9.25.27-AM-550x328.png)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-brushes-off-elizabeth-warren-attacks-pocahontas-is-at-it-again/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-brushes-off-elizabeth-warren-attacks-pocahontas-is-at-it-again/)

Fauxahontas responds...in typical fascist response...

 ::hysterical::

I hope that moonbat is VP choice too!   ::laughonfloor::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 10, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
  If called it's only to bring bernies people in.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on June 10, 2016, 09:35:44 PM
Given the current, pro-Muzzie political climate...it'd be terrible if radical (really fundamental) scum-sucking moslims decapitated po' Lizbeth 'n Hillary, just for shi+s & giggles...I know I'd, uhm...be upset (or somethin')...

(https://angelforisrael.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/islamic-rage-boy-meme-generator-islamic-rage-boy-disapproves-of-this-post-c80855.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on June 11, 2016, 08:43:55 AM
Warren.......to draw the Indian vote?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 12, 2016, 04:17:01 PM
Self-identified woo-woo Indian vote...we value accuracy here.   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2016, 07:33:50 AM
Sums it up nicely...even a Left-wing lunatic can be right for the wrong reasons...

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-12-at-6.40.28-PM-550x443.png)

H/T-Weaselzippers

Another not Conservative/Tea Party guy...no, a Clinton-loathing Lefty who apparently favors Bernie Sanders...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/276821-breaking-man-with-explosives-and-long-rifle-arrested-in-la-said-he-was-going-to-gay-pride-festival/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/276821-breaking-man-with-explosives-and-long-rifle-arrested-in-la-said-he-was-going-to-gay-pride-festival/)

Is this part of "Feeling the Bern"?

Obviously Bernie inspires hate and violence and drives people to guns...

There can only be one solution...Bernie must be locked up.

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 14, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Trump got diversity...heh.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/hindu-sena-to-celebrate-saviour-of-humanity-trump-s-birthday-at-jantar-mantar/story-nlhsT5WZhWLIQdEddhuL2I.html (http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/hindu-sena-to-celebrate-saviour-of-humanity-trump-s-birthday-at-jantar-mantar/story-nlhsT5WZhWLIQdEddhuL2I.html)

Any foe of Islam is a friend of mine.

And this is good...Trump tears into Hitlery pretty good -

Clinton, he said, would negligently implement a ‘catastrophic immigration plan’ that would ‘bring vastly more radical Islamic immigrants into this country, threatening not only our society but our entire way of life.’

‘Ignorance is not bliss,’ he said in a half-hour speech at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire.

‘It’s deadly. Totally deadly.’

‘She says the solution is to ban guns. They tried that in France,’ Trump poked, referring to last year’s terror attacks in Paris. ‘One hundred thirty people were brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists in cold blood,’ he said.

‘Her plan is to disarm law-abiding Americans, abolish the Second Amendment and leave only terrorists … with guns.’

‘She wants to take away Americans’ guns and then admit the very people who want to slaughter us,’ Trump boomed, reading from a teleprompter. He pledged to meet with the National Rifle Association, the powerful lobby that has endorsed him, to ‘discuss how to make sure Americans have the means to protect themselves in this age of terror.’

'We want to remain a free and open society ... [but] we have to control our borders. And we have to control them now. Not later. Right now,' he said Monday.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/277149-trump-tears-into-hillary-over-orlando-says-attacks-prove-hes-the-one-to-protect-americans-including-gays-and-muslims/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/277149-trump-tears-into-hillary-over-orlando-says-attacks-prove-hes-the-one-to-protect-americans-including-gays-and-muslims/)

Oh yeah...make all those sh*theads go pop, pop, pop!   ::thumbsup::

And in a sign of toughness you would never see from the usual E-GOP nominee...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/277144-trump-revokes-washington-posts-access-to-his-campaign/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/277144-trump-revokes-washington-posts-access-to-his-campaign/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 14, 2016, 11:35:48 AM
Heh.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/democrats-claim-russian-hackers-stole-their-anti-trump-research (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/democrats-claim-russian-hackers-stole-their-anti-trump-research)

Even if true...umm, thanks?!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on June 14, 2016, 02:02:05 PM
Heh.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/democrats-claim-russian-hackers-stole-their-anti-trump-research (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/democrats-claim-russian-hackers-stole-their-anti-trump-research)

Even if true...umm, thanks?!

 ::hysterical::

Has all the makings of a great comedy flick.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on June 14, 2016, 05:45:07 PM
America, **** Yeah!

 ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 16, 2016, 08:32:30 AM
Useful Idiot Kasich...defends Obama, slams Trump...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-show-isn-t-funny-000000627.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-show-isn-t-funny-000000627.html)

...the presstitutes in the MFM really love a-holes who make their job to demonize non-pc/diversity/multiculti conformists, eh?

Yeah...up yours Johnnie boy!   ::doublebird::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 16, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
Hitlery's hacked donor list...something Debbie Wasserfatass Schlitzed promised did not happen...

Looks like a who's who of JINO's:

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/06/04/hillary%20donors%202_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/leaked-list-hillary-clintons-mega-donors (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/leaked-list-hillary-clintons-mega-donors)

Unionista's, Katzenberg, Spielberg, Jacobs...thieving Wall St fleecers aplenty...Darth Soros, Morgan Freeman and Chelsea Handler...

 ::puke::

All the players in Evil, Inc.

 ::mooning::

Hopefully they all just pissed their ill-gotten booty right down the drain!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 16, 2016, 11:47:01 AM
And just another reason...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/flashback-saudi-prince/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/flashback-saudi-prince/)

...annoy both!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2016, 07:55:10 AM
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/16/Others/Images/2016-06-15/IMG_00551466046430.jpg)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-calls-her-crooked-hillary-but-his-fans-just-say-b----/2016/06/15/b33e166c-330c-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-calls-her-crooked-hillary-but-his-fans-just-say-b----/2016/06/15/b33e166c-330c-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html)

Heh, short and sweet.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 22, 2016, 11:54:21 AM
Trump defines the race...goes after Clinton like nobody else dares to...

Donald Trump launched a broad rebuke of his presidential rival Hillary Clinton Wednesday, accusing her of being "a world class liar" who personally profited from her tenure at the State Department. "She gets rich making you poor," Trump said.

Seeking to steady his campaign after a difficult stretch, the presumptive Republican nominee cast himself as the White House candidate best positioned to address Americans' economic interests.

"This election will decide whether we're ruled by the people or the politicians,"

"Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency," Trump said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e8b73258b2314ef7a7e6aa2e8bc7cd91/speech-trump-ramp-critique-clinton-failure (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e8b73258b2314ef7a7e6aa2e8bc7cd91/speech-trump-ramp-critique-clinton-failure)

The Succubus isn't used to having folks go after her with so much brutal honesty...I gotta say...this could really be quite fun to watch!

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on June 22, 2016, 01:26:58 PM
BigStory took away commenting.  I wonder why?  Does the rotten journalism profession improve if they don't let people snark at the fraud?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 22, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
  Not one politically correct word in it!! Beat her like a rented mule.  I dare her to come back and fight everything he said..  But we all know it will be done by every talking head in news print and talking head on TV.

 They must be waiting for their marching orders.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 23, 2016, 10:59:16 AM
As we all know that bitch be crazy and can't remember all the lies she tells so she sticks with all the old ones and recycles the names...

Maybe she can respond to the utes of 'Merica who are surprised by her actual words...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/278973-video-young-voters-shocked-to-hears-things-hillary-actually-said/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/278973-video-young-voters-shocked-to-hears-things-hillary-actually-said/)

...but I doubt she has a "new" response there either.

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3847/5039/original.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 27, 2016, 08:27:28 AM
Another BigFurHat moment captured -

"Erick Erickson, a man who looks like a sweaty thumb trying to take a difficult sh*t..."

 ::laughonfloor::

http://iotwreport.com/we-must-stop-hillary-clinton-at-all-costs-that-means-we-must-stop-trump-freethedelegates/ (http://iotwreport.com/we-must-stop-hillary-clinton-at-all-costs-that-means-we-must-stop-trump-freethedelegates/)

Sweaty Thumb and Self-Identifying Moron Glenn Beck must be pulling each others fingers...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 27, 2016, 09:23:55 AM
Another BigFurHat moment captured -

"Erick Erickson, a man who looks like a sweaty thumb trying to take a difficult sh*t..."

 ::laughonfloor::

http://iotwreport.com/we-must-stop-hillary-clinton-at-all-costs-that-means-we-must-stop-trump-freethedelegates/ (http://iotwreport.com/we-must-stop-hillary-clinton-at-all-costs-that-means-we-must-stop-trump-freethedelegates/)

Sweaty Thumb and Self-Identifying Moron Glenn Beck must be pulling each others fingers...



Obviously the "we must stop hillary at all costs" is a lie. They're sorta OK with the idea, but certainly not at all costs. Whatever one thinks of Trump the man, he is the candidate for the right. If they do not get over themselves and rally around him then she will surely win and it will coincide with the death of the Republican party.

Do they really think they can screw over this many people and still mount a credible campaign for dogcatcher? We've held our noses and supported their candidates - now it is time to buck up and support ours.

Turn your back on your obligations at your own peril.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on June 27, 2016, 10:30:09 AM
I can't even stomach going to Moonbattery.com anymore.  It's every single day, virtually the only posts there -- some sort of sniping at Trump.  It's so pathetic he's even repeating MSM attack lines, the same MSM that used to be the enemy.  One particularly obnoxious example was an article from the MSM saying if it wasn't for Trump giving them so much bad press to report, they'd have more time to go after Hillary.  Moonbattery repeats this as though it has a shred of validity!  Oh, really?  The only thing keeping the MSM from going after Hillary Clinton is the so much more attractive target Donald Trump?  That site has lost all credibility.

I can get posting anti-Trump stuff during the primary, because there's still a contest going on.  But for a supposedly anti-liberal site to run attacks every day, at this point in the game, it's only helping Hillary by reinforcing the "I'm staying home" attitude among conservatives.  I find that indefensible.  Where was this damn ideological purity when the nominees were McCain and Romney?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 27, 2016, 11:19:01 AM
Well Glock, if they stayed true to their founding purpose they should have exposed themselves as Moonbats.   ::laughonfloor::

We all identified long ago the outright hypocrisy of Establishment Republicans, once Trump became the front runner these jackasses who made us swallow our pride and principles to pull the lever for their flawed watered-down conservative losers (the best we could hope for given the playing rules!) are now the same people incapable of practicing the sh*t they peddled for decades!

Frankly, as I've stated before...in the end I cannot lose on this...one way or the other the Establishment is being made extinct...fast or slow doesn't matter...their fate is certain and it will be painful, there will be crying, pleading, running, hiding, begging...then screaming, bleeding and dying...it is inescapable.

Though I kinda favor sooner than later...not getting any younger here!   ::oldman::

ETA -

I saw this at ThePeoplesCube...

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/thumb/39518-aaatrumpstrip.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on June 27, 2016, 11:32:56 AM
Quote
Where was this damn ideological purity when the nominees were McCain and Romney?

Precisely ........ not to mention Dole.

How many times were we told that no perfect candidate was on the ballot, that good-enough would have to do?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 27, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
I hear ya Glock32 - I enjoy spirited debate as well as anyone but I'm S&T (sick and tired) of the FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt) that so many on "our side" (spit) and throwing out.

So it's real simple - attack the left and hillary-dillary in particular - or I withdraw my support. Blinders - you betcha! I don't just want to win - I want to crush my enemies.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 28, 2016, 07:08:57 AM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 29, 2016, 11:47:24 AM
Donald Trump's "Economic Independence" Speech -

Declaring America's Economic Independence
Story Continued Below

It is great to be here. I'd like to thank Alumisource and all the amazing workers here for hosting us.
Today, I am going to talk about how to Make America Wealthy Again.
We are thirty miles from Steel City. Pittsburgh played a central role in building our nation.
The legacy of Pennsylvania steelworkers lives in the bridges, railways and skyscrapers that make up our great American landscape.
But our workers' loyalty was repaid with betrayal.
Our politicians have aggressively pursued a policy of globalization - moving our jobs, our wealth and our factories to Mexico and overseas.
Globalization has made the financial elite who donate to politicians very wealthy. But it has left millions of our workers with nothing but poverty and heartache.
When subsidized foreign steel is dumped into our markets, threatening our factories, the politicians do nothing.
For years, they watched on the sidelines as our jobs vanished and our communities were plunged into depression-level unemployment.
Many of these areas have still never recovered.
Our politicians took away from the people their means of making a living and supporting their families.
Skilled craftsmen and tradespeople and factory workers have seen the jobs they loved shipped thousands of miles away.
Many Pennsylvania towns once thriving and humming are now in a state despair.
This wave of globalization has wiped out our middle class.
It doesn't have to be this way. We can turn it all around - and we can turn it around fast.
But if we're going to deliver real change, we're going to have to reject the campaign of fear and intimidation being pushed by powerful corporations, media elites, and political dynasties.
The people who rigged the system for their benefit will do anything - and say anything - to keep things exactly as they are.
The people who rigged the system are supporting Hillary Clinton because they know as long as she is in charge nothing will ever change.
The inner cities will remain poor.
The factories will remain closed.
The borders will remain open.
The special interests will remain firmly in control.
Hillary Clinton and her friends in global finance want to scare America into thinking small - and they want to scare the American people out of voting for a better future.
My campaign has the opposite message.
I want you to imagine how much better your life can be if we start believing in America again.
I want you to imagine how much better our future can be if we declare independence from the elites who've led us to one financial and foreign policy disaster after another.
Our friends in Britain recently voted to take back control of their economy, politics and borders.
I was on the right side of that issue - with the people - while Hillary, as always, stood with the elites, and both she and president Obama predicted that one wrong.
Now it's time for the American people to take back their future.
That's the choice we face. We can either give in to Hillary Clinton's campaign of fear, or we can choose to Believe In America.
We lost our way when we stopped believing in our country.
America became the world's dominant economy by becoming the world's dominant producer.
The wealth this created was shared broadly, creating the biggest middle class the world had ever known.
But then America changed its policy from promoting development in America, to promoting development in other nations.
We allowed foreign countries to subsidize their goods, devalue their currencies, violate their agreements, and cheat in every way imaginable.
Trillions of our dollars and millions of our jobs flowed overseas as a result.
I have visited cities and towns across this country where a third or even half of manufacturing jobs have been wiped out in the last 20 years.
Today, we import nearly $800 billion more in goods than we export.
This is not some natural disaster. It is politician-made disaster.
It is the consequence of a leadership class that worships globalism over Americanism.
This is a direct affront to our Founding Fathers, who wanted America to be strong, independent and free.
Our Founding Fathers Understood Trade
George Washington said that "the promotion of domestic manufactur[ing] will be among the first consequences to flow from an energetic government.”
Alexander Hamilton spoke frequently of the "expediency of encouraging manufactur[ing] in the United States." The first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, warned that: "The abandonment of the protective policy by the American government… must produce want and ruin among our people."
Our original Constitution did not even have an income tax. Instead, it had tariffs - emphasizing taxation of foreign, not domestic, production.
Yet today, 240 years after the Revolution, we have turned things completely upside-down.
We tax and regulate and restrict our companies to death, then we allow foreign countries that cheat to export their goods to us tax-free.
As a result, we have become more dependent on foreign countries than ever before.
Ladies and Gentlemen, it’s time to declare our economic independence once again.
That means reversing two of the worst legacies of the Clinton years.
America has lost nearly one-third of its manufacturing jobs since 1997 - even as the country has increased its population by 50 million people.
At the center of this catastrophe are two trade deals pushed by Bill and Hillary Clinton.
First, the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. Second, China's entry into the World Trade Organization.
NAFTA was the worst trade deal in history, and China's entrance into the World Trade Organization has enabled the greatest jobs theft in history.
It was Bill Clinton who signed NAFTA in 1993, and Hillary Clinton who supported it.
It was also Bill Clinton who lobbied for China's disastrous entry into the World Trade Organization, and Hillary Clinton who backed that terrible agreement.
Then, as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton stood by idly while China cheated on its currency, added another trillion dollars to our trade deficits, and stole hundreds of billions of dollars in our intellectual property.
The city of Pittsburgh, and the State of Pennsylvania, have lost one-third of their manufacturing jobs since the Clintons put China into the WTO.
Fifty thousand factories across America have shut their doors in that time.
Almost half of our entire manufacturing trade deficit in goods with the world is the result of trade with China.
It was also Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, who shoved us into a job-killing deal with South Korea in 2012.
As reported by the Economic Policy Institute in May, this deal doubled our trade deficit with South Korea and destroyed nearly 100,000 American jobs.
As Bernie Sanders said, Hillary Clinton "Voted for virtually every trade agreement that has cost the workers of this country millions of jobs.”
Trade reform, and the negotiation of great trade deals, is the quickest way to bring our jobs back.
To understand why trade reform creates jobs, we need to understand how all nations grow and prosper.
Massive trade deficits subtract directly from our Gross Domestic Product.
From 1947 to 2001 - a span of over five decades - our inflation-adjusted gross domestic product grew at a rate of 3.5%.
However, since 2002 - the year after we fully opened our markets to Chinese imports - that GDP growth rate has been cut almost in half.
What does this mean for Americans? For every one percent of GDP growth we fail to generate in any given year, we also fail to create over one million jobs.
America's "job creation deficit" due to slower growth since 2002 is well over 20 million jobs - and that's just about the number of jobs our country needs right now to put America back to work at decent wages.
The Transpacific-Partnership is the greatest danger yet.
The TPP would be the death blow for American manufacturing.
It would give up all of our economic leverage to an international commission that would put the interests of foreign countries above our own.
It would further open our markets to aggressive currency cheaters. It would make it easier for our trading competitors to ship cheap subsidized goods into U.S. markets - while allowing foreign countries to continue putting barriers in front of our exports.
The TPP would lower tariffs on foreign cars, while leaving in place the foreign practices that keep American cars from being sold overseas. The TPP even created a backdoor for China to supply car parts for automobiles made in Mexico.
The agreement would also force American workers to compete directly against workers from Vietnam, one of the lowest wage countries on Earth.
Not only will the TPP undermine our economy, but it will undermine our independence.
The TPP creates a new international commission that makes decisions the American people can't veto.
These commissions are great Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street funders who can spend vast amounts of money to influence the outcomes.
It should be no surprise then that Hillary Clinton, according to Bloomberg, took a “leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership”.
She praised or pushed the TPP on 45 separate occasions, and even called it the “gold standard”.
Hillary Clinton was totally for the TPP just a short while ago, but when she saw my stance, which is totally against, she was shamed into saying she would be against it too – but have no doubt, she will immediately approve it if it is put before her, guaranteed.
She will do this just as she has betrayed American workers for Wall Street throughout her career.
Here’s how it would go: she would make a small token change, declare the pact fixed, and ram it through.
That’s why Hillary is now only saying she has problems with the TPP “in its current form,” – ensuring that she can rush to embrace it again at her earliest opportunity.
If the media doesn’t believe me, I have a challenge for you. Ask Hillary Clinton if she is willing to withdraw from the TPP her first day in office and unconditionally rule out its passage in any form.
There is no way to “fix” the TPP. We need bilateral trade deals. We do not need to enter into another massive international agreement that ties us up and binds us down.
A Trump Administration will change our failed trade policy - quickly
Here are 7 steps I would pursue right away to bring back our jobs.
One: I am going to withdraw the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which has not yet been ratified.
Two: I'm going to appoint the toughest and smartest trade negotiators to fight on behalf of American workers.
Three: I'm going to direct the Secretary of Commerce to identify every violation of trade agreements a foreign country is currently using to harm our workers. I will then direct all appropriate agencies to use every tool under American and international law to end these abuses.
Four: I'm going tell our NAFTA partners that I intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement to get a better deal for our workers. And I don't mean just a little bit better, I mean a lot better. If they do not agree to a renegotiation, then I will submit notice under Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal.
Five: I am going to instruct my Treasury Secretary to label China a currency manipulator. Any country that devalues their currency in order to take advantage of the United States will be met with sharply
Six: I am going to instruct the U.S. Trade Representative to bring trade cases against China, both in this country and at the WTO. China's unfair subsidy behavior is prohibited by the terms of its entrance to the WTO, and I intend to enforce those rules.
Seven: If China does not stop its illegal activities, including its theft of American trade secrets, I will use every lawful presidential power to remedy trade disputes, including the application of tariffs consistent with Section 201 and 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 and Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962.
President Reagan deployed similar trade measures when motorcycle and semiconductor imports threatened U.S. industry. His tariff on Japanese motorcycles was 45% and his tariff to shield America’s semiconductor industry was 100%.
Hillary Clinton, and her campaign of fear, will try to spread the lie that these actions will start a trade war. She has it completely backwards.
Hillary Clinton unleashed a trade war against the American worker when she supported one terrible trade deal after another – from NAFTA to China to South Korea.
A Trump Administration will end that war by getting a fair deal for the American people.
The era of economic surrender will finally be over.
A new era of prosperity will finally begin.
America will be independent once more.
Under a Trump Presidency, the American worker will finally have a President who will protect them and fight for them.
We will stand up to trade cheating anywhere and everywhere it threatens an American job.
We will make America the best place in the world to start a business, hire workers, and open a factory.
This includes massive tax reform to lift the crushing burdens on American workers and businesses.
We will also get rid of wasteful rules and regulations which are destroying our job creation capacity.
Many people think that these regulations are an even greater impediment than the fact that we are one of the highest taxed nations in the world.
We are also going to fully capture America’s tremendous energy capacity. This will create vast profits for our workers and begin reducing our deficit. Hillary Clinton wants to shut down energy production and shut down the mines.
A Trump Administration will also ensure that we start using American steel for American infrastructure.
Just like the American steel from Pennsylvania that built the Empire State building.
It will be American steel that will fortify American's crumbling bridges.
It will be American steel that sends our skyscrapers soaring into the sky.
It will be American steel that rebuilds our inner cities.
It will be American hands that remake this country, and it will be American energy - mined from American resources - that powers this country.
It will be American workers who are hired to do the job.
We are going to put American-produced steel back into the backbone of our country. This alone will create massive numbers of jobs.
On trade, on immigration, on foreign policy, we are going to put America First again.
We are going to make America wealthy again.
We are going to reject Hillary Clinton's politics of fear, futility, and incompetence.
We are going to embrace the possibilities of change.
It is time to believe in the future.
It is time to believe in each other.
It is time to Believe In America.
This Is How We Are Going To Make America Great Again – For All Americans.
We Are Going To Make America Great Again For Everyone – Greater Than Ever Before.
Thank you.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/full-transcript-trump-job-plan-speech-224891#ixzz4CzIdHtoQ (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/full-transcript-trump-job-plan-speech-224891#ixzz4CzIdHtoQ)


For a political speech c.2016AD it isn't bad.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on June 30, 2016, 11:28:46 AM
Maybe a bit of reality creeping in...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch)

...as it is still  too early to show a small Trump bump followed by the expected Trump dump after the conventions the MFM always manufactures each year in an obvious attempt to gin up support for their punchbowl floater...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on June 30, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
  I didn't read it and I don't care if the place is going to hell it won't be because I let a Clinton back in.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 11, 2016, 07:23:19 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/a-curveball-in-trumps-veep-search-hes-seriously-considering-a-retired-general/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/a-curveball-in-trumps-veep-search-hes-seriously-considering-a-retired-general/)

I understand the impulse to look outside the traditional GOP ranks...not sure a Democrat, military experience notwithstanding...is the right call.

But then again...VP is a largely ceremonial post...more an insurance policy than anything, so I'd go with the scariest person I could find.  ;D

ETA - Disappointed again - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14393.0 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14393.0)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 20, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
And so much for the Anybody But Trump folks...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/284521-livestream-republican-delegates-casting-votes/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/284521-livestream-republican-delegates-casting-votes/)

...I guess their bark was way worse than their bite.

Can't avoid it now...Trump or Clinton?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 20, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Will it matter? Well, possibly. This president will likely choose at least 2 Supremes.  Add two more libs to the court......which we know how Hillary will choose and I shutter to imagine the division, we think it bad now. Don't know if Trump will be any better socially but economically I believe he will be.

Hillary elected? Arm up. Trump elected? Still arm up.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 20, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Look what just happened in Massachusetts.  The AG categorically banned the sale of "assault weapons."  Imagine that going to a Supreme Court with 2-3 more prog appointees.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 20, 2016, 04:59:42 PM
Lexington and Concord Redux coming.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on July 21, 2016, 08:14:52 AM
Lexington and Concord Redux coming.

Word.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 21, 2016, 08:52:53 AM
So I think we just witnessed Ted Cruz commit political suicide on national TV last night. (http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/20/cruz-booed-for-not-endorsing-trump-at-gop-convention-video/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 21, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
Don't know what to think of Cruz. Is he:

1) a whiny ass sore loser
2) a petulant child throwing a tantrum
3) Just plain butt hurt

Or is there a point to his objection. I watched his meeting this morning with the Texas delegates and listened to the questioning. While he said he would never vote Hillary, he fell back to ( paraphrase) " I will watch and support those who follow the Constitution". Which, to me means he won't support any candidate or politican.

The question I wanted to hear, as cruz pontificated on he would be watching and listening,( supposedly before endorsing) is what would convince you a candidate will follow the Constitution and would you support at that time.....But I don't think cruz will endorse anyone because right now I believe he embodies #1,2 and 3.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on July 21, 2016, 11:13:32 AM
.....But I don't think cruz will endorse anyone because right now I believe he embodies #1,2 and 3.

I'm not sure. I'd have a hard time endorsing anybody in the race. While I'd cut my wrists before voting for Hitlary, I'm just now leaning towards Trump. Not because of his ideals, but for his Supreme Court picks. Although I keep flashing back to Roberts.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 21, 2016, 11:40:45 AM
If Cruz seriously had insurmountable objections to Trump's candidacy, then he should have just declined to speak at the convention.  There's a way to withhold your endorsement without doing an anti-endorsement.

I interpreted it as Cruz being more interested in his own future presidential ambitions than in doing everything possible to stop Hillary right now.  I'm really disturbed by the number of Republicans, including self-professed conservatives, who would prefer a Hillary Clinton presidency over the "wrong" Republican candidate.

It reminds me of that scene from Terminator 2 where the good T800 is explaining what started the nuclear war.  SkyNet had become self-aware, and the military desperately tried to take it offline.  SkyNet calculated that if it launched nuclear missiles at Russia, the Russian counterattack would destroy SkyNet's enemies here.  Hillary Clinton is that nuclear counterattack that will destroy the E-GOP's internal enemy.  And I guess the country will just have to be collateral damage as far as they're concerned.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 21, 2016, 11:45:51 AM
I don't think he will because Trump has manipulated him at every turn and Cruz is butt hurt over it. Cruz holds a rally.....Trump fly's his plane over it. Trump gives him a primetime spot with no strings. Cruz acts like a crybaby. Gets boo'd. Winner Trump. Cruz holds another Q and A this morning, gets roasted. Winner Trump. The best thing Ted can do is go home, he has become one of the best Trump recruiters ever.

Bottom line, Trump understands how to get voters on his side. I'm not sure I appreciate every avenue he uses, but with politics, it is a blood letting. I think that's why Cruz is butt hurt. He wasn't willing to do what was needed. Trump can be a cold blooded SOB.

So enjoy the ride.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 21, 2016, 11:49:08 AM
If Cruz seriously had insurmountable objections to Trump's candidacy, then he should have just declined to speak at the convention.  There's a way to withhold your endorsement without doing an anti-endorsement.

I interpreted it as Cruz being more interested in his own future presidential ambitions than in doing everything possible to stop Hillary right now.  I'm really disturbed by the number of Republicans, including self-professed conservatives, who would prefer a Hillary Clinton presidency over the "wrong" Republican candidate.

It reminds me of that scene from Terminator 2 where the good T800 is explaining what started the nuclear war.  SkyNet had become self-aware, and the military desperately tried to take it offline.  SkyNet calculated that if it launched nuclear missiles at Russia, the Russian counterattack would destroy SkyNet's enemies here.  Hillary Clinton is that nuclear counterattack that will destroy the E-GOP's internal enemy.  And I guess the country will just have to be collateral damage as far as they're concerned.


I think Trump put Cruz in a "no win" situation. If he declines, he looks bad. He accepted and looked worse. Plus, if he is doing this for his own political gain.....he sucks at it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Janny on July 22, 2016, 12:00:52 AM
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Don't know what to think of Cruz. Is he:

1) a whiny ass sore loser
2) a petulant child throwing a tantrum
3) Just plain butt hurt

4) all of the above

I am so disappointed in Cruz. It's sickening watching his perpetually butthurt sycophants claiming he did this out of "principles" and calling him "courageous." He's nothing but a self-serving coward.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Janny on July 22, 2016, 12:04:06 AM
If Cruz seriously had insurmountable objections to Trump's candidacy, then he should have just declined to speak at the convention.  There's a way to withhold your endorsement without doing an anti-endorsement.

I interpreted it as Cruz being more interested in his own future presidential ambitions than in doing everything possible to stop Hillary right now.  I'm really disturbed by the number of Republicans, including self-professed conservatives, who would prefer a Hillary Clinton presidency over the "wrong" Republican candidate.

It reminds me of that scene from Terminator 2 where the good T800 is explaining what started the nuclear war.  SkyNet had become self-aware, and the military desperately tried to take it offline.  SkyNet calculated that if it launched nuclear missiles at Russia, the Russian counterattack would destroy SkyNet's enemies here.  Hillary Clinton is that nuclear counterattack that will destroy the E-GOP's internal enemy.  And I guess the country will just have to be collateral damage as far as they're concerned.


I think Trump put Cruz in a "no win" situation. If he declines, he looks bad. He accepted and looked worse. Plus, if he is doing this for his own political gain.....he sucks at it.


He ran a dirty campaign. I believe it was dirty enough to cost him the nomination. If he had taken a strict line on illegal immigration early on, and hadn't gotten up and blatantly lied about Trump, he might be the nominee now.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on July 22, 2016, 01:59:47 AM
I disagree about the dirty campaign and his supposed lying about Trump, but Cruz would have been more widely supported had he come out strongly against indulging illegal alien invasion.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 22, 2016, 06:08:29 AM
In the end, Cruz ran the standard republican campaign. Not what the people wanted. All the signs were there. All pointed in one direction. While Cruz is a much better conservative than most, in the end he looked like a " republican". He jumped into the republican rut. 

Trump isn't getting credit for being one smart guy.  Once he trotted his family out and everyone got to see how impressive they truly are( it doesn't happen by accident) you can't tell me the display wasn't lmpressive. It's like going back decades during a time when the American Dream was alive, when we watched shows like the lifestyles of the rich and famous and strived to get there, not shows like " American greed" which we are fed today. Frankly, trump was masterful plotting out a course to be great again. Once the libs have their convention, trotting out the dregs of this earth you know they will, the contrast will be so stark, so obvious.

Kudos to trump and to his family. They put their credibility on the line with a confidence to get the job done like no other. Gotta give it some respect.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 22, 2016, 06:13:25 AM
Oh the DNC is going to be several nights in a row of the Star Wars cantina scene.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on July 22, 2016, 07:25:28 AM
The eGOP going farther down the toilet.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/21/thiel_fake_culture_wars_only_distract_us_from_our_economic_decline.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/21/thiel_fake_culture_wars_only_distract_us_from_our_economic_decline.html)

Quote
Paypal founder and Silicon Valley entrepreneur Peter Thiel spoke on the fourth night of the 2016 Republican National Convention.

"I am proud to be gay. I am proud to be a Republican. But most of all I am proud to be an American," he said.

Maddow Rambles For Three Minutes on "Incredibly Radical" "Openly Gay" Republican Peter Thiel

The crowd erupted with a standing ovation that turned into a short chant of “USA! USA! USA!”

“I don’t pretend to agree with every plank in our party’s platform. But fake culture wars only distract us from our economic decline," he said. "When I was a kid, the great debate was about how to defeat the Soviet Union. And we won. Now we are told that the great debate is about who gets to use which bathroom. This is a distraction from our real problems. Who cares?"

"Instead of going to Mars, we invaded the Middle East," he said. "Donald Trump is right. It's time to end the era of stupid wars and rebuild our country."

I, for one, care. I don't give a rodent's rectum if you're gay, but quite telling us we have to embrace and celebrate your perversions. ::pullhair::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 22, 2016, 08:54:15 AM
Cruz did the only thing he could do without guaranteeing Republican defeat and his own demise. His supporters are principled conservatives. Had he fully endorsed Trump, they would have rejected him, and it would have done nothing to move them into the Trump camp.

By making a strong case for return to constitutional governance and conservative principles, saying Hillary must be defeated, saying there is no substitute for victory, and then saying "vote your conscience", he wasn't failing to endorse Trump as much as he was signaling to his supporters what their choice really is. By not alienating them with an outright endorsement, he made it OK for them to choose Trump in the end, and kept his own coalition together in the process. I think it was pretty brilliant, actually.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 22, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
And I must say, I find Donald Trump extremely unpalatable. I think he's dangerously untethered to constitutional principles, and dangerously demagogic. There wasn't a Republican running who I would not have preferred over him.

That said, I often quote the bible verse, "By their fruits Ye shall know them." If Donald Trump's children are any indication of the man, they give me something to ponder, at the very least.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 22, 2016, 09:37:34 AM
Trump is no Saint, doesn't get any more obvious than that.  But the fault in the caliber of candidates is laid squarely at the feet of the Ruling Class in each party who foist nothing but far-left radicals on one end and demonize anybody to the right of them as extreme, out of the mainstream blah blah blah and on the other end we get simpering cowardly little schmucks that offer up one unprincipled establishment fool after another and have still to this day not found a single hill worth dying on.  This is what latter-day America looks like. 

So, if butt-hurt crybabies and the lunatics that support them think they can sit this one out and survive another 4-8 years of progressive decomposition and expect to inherit the reigns of power over something normal people would not want to touch without donning a hazmat suit...well, have fun with that...but it just shows how batshyt nucking futs those people really are.

Make other plans.  Mmm kay?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Janny on July 22, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
I supported Cruz early on. His dirty campaigning and lies turned me off.

! No longer available (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LI-SGrum8lQ#)

He absolutely lied about Trump's positions.

Trump is far from perfect, but he doesn't profess to be a "true conservative." "True Conservative" Ted Cruz does support amnesty and "Free trade." There is no perfect candidate.

 Cruz is a sore loser, that's why he wouldn't endorse Trump. He'd have been better off just staying home.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 22, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
Having a raving lunatic like Beck hurt him a lot too, sad, I had higher expectations for Cruz but he did nothing to help himself.  Poor handlers, poor cheerleaders, poor decisions, he has nobody else to blame but himself.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 22, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
First, I hated " the pledge" between the candidates on getting there support. But, Cruz signed it, then backed out. Sorry, but I don't think his strategy was brilliant. I believe Cruz, as probably most of the other potential candidates, didn't believe trump would never garner the nomination.

He was underestimated by all of them. He is the only candidate willing to tell the American people the country is rigged. Hell, he even admitted he participated, then made the point it's why he can fix it. He basically said the same thing during the first debate but most people didn't pick up on it because they are too intellectually involved in Fox News telling them trump couldn't possibly have a conservative bone because he had dealings with the clintons. No, he was telling us he played the rigged game, the clintons were ass deep in it and he did what he had to do to be successful. Frankly, there is no one better qualified to call Hillary by what she is. He lived it.

I'm not sure who is trustworthy.....but again, I watched his family climb out on that limb for him. Maybe they felt obligated but maybe they are as keen and smart as they appeared.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 22, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
Having a raving lunatic like Beck hurt him a lot too, sad, I had higher expectations for Cruz but he did nothing to help himself.  Poor handlers, poor cheerleaders, poor decisions, he has nobody else to blame but himself.

Exactly this.
He either took some bad acid or he listened to and took terrible advice (hint: glenn beck). In the process of trying to one-up Donald Trump (at Donald Trumps game) he not only failed miserably - he immolated all of his good will.

Even in the wake of the his speech where Mr. Magoo could have seen the reaction, he thought it was received entirely differently than it was.

IMNSHO Mr. Cruz should try another profession because he's finished in his present one.

 ::snoshovel::
(I'm gonna use this one to illustrate the First Rule of Holes)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 22, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Speaking of brain-addled, who wouldn't entrust the planet's most important position to this woman?

(https://i.sli.mg/ZV1cxn.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2016, 11:57:10 AM
She's got a case of the Ventura's!   ::speechless::   ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
Oh, and as I predicted...Prog-saturated MFM giving Trump his little post-convention "bounce"...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/)

...to be followed by the ever so predictable "flip" the other direction following Hitlery's coronation...a lead that will never go away through election day...

 ::bsmeter::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 25, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
I'm not going to watch the dems. I already know who they will trot out, the sickening display of racial hate, passed on as compassion.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on July 25, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
Oh, and as I predicted...Prog-saturated MFM giving Trump his little post-convention "bounce"...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/)

...to be followed by the ever so predictable "flip" the other direction following Hitlery's coronation...a lead that will never go away through election day...

 ::bsmeter::


Oh count on it.  This is their "maintain the appearance that our polls are legitimate" phase.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 AM
“It's been 235 days since crooked Hillary Clinton has had a press conference,” he (Trump) said.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/donald-trump/article92103212.html#storylink=cpy (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/donald-trump/article92103212.html#storylink=cpy)

Heh.

More please!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/5d8889bc-366c-4c7d-bc48-d70fac5e0ce9.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/ (http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/)

Heh.

And in this lazily written jurnotard report...

Vietnam vet, who is black, not that that should matter...shot by Obama/Clinton drone...for voicing support for Donald Trump (http://www.weaselzippers.us/286257-black-vietnam-war-veteran-shot-for-being-a-trump-supporter/)...and the jurnotard writing this article obviously is a sympathizer of the shooter not the victim:

"Cleveland police said he shot Jones in the thigh, then walked out -- effectively ending the debate."

Wow, really?  Shooting someone is deemed an "effective" way to end any "debate", eh?

Hmmm....given your profession, obvious political bias and level of ignorance you might want to reconsider that policy...but I doubt you will, so no doubt being hoisted on your own petard is coming for you sooner that you would like...

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on July 28, 2016, 08:00:59 PM
(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/5d8889bc-366c-4c7d-bc48-d70fac5e0ce9.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/ (http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/)

Heh.

And in this lazily written jurnotard report...

Vietnam vet, who is black, not that that should matter...shot by Obama/Clinton drone...for voicing support for Donald Trump (http://www.weaselzippers.us/286257-black-vietnam-war-veteran-shot-for-being-a-trump-supporter/)...and the jurnotard writing this article obviously is a sympathizer of the shooter not the victim:

"Cleveland police said he shot Jones in the thigh, then walked out -- effectively ending the debate."

Wow, really?  Shooting someone is deemed an "effective" way to end any "debate", eh?

Hmmm....given your profession, obvious political bias and level of ignorance you might want to reconsider that policy...but I doubt you will, so no doubt being hoisted on your own petard is coming for you sooner that you would like...

 ::mooning::

   Isn't taking money from foreign governments inviting them into our governments inner workings also?? Just saying.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on July 28, 2016, 09:59:26 PM
#DryVagina backed by #UppityNigger vs #NarcissisticBizman . . .

I'll take repairing the economy for now...& work on the rest moving forward... ::snoshovel::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2016, 06:53:45 AM
(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/5d8889bc-366c-4c7d-bc48-d70fac5e0ce9.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/ (http://iotwreport.com/mr-pinko-nails-hillary-clinton-except-no-one-realizes-yet/)

Heh.

And in this lazily written jurnotard report...

Vietnam vet, who is black, not that that should matter...shot by Obama/Clinton drone...for voicing support for Donald Trump (http://www.weaselzippers.us/286257-black-vietnam-war-veteran-shot-for-being-a-trump-supporter/)...and the jurnotard writing this article obviously is a sympathizer of the shooter not the victim:

"Cleveland police said he shot Jones in the thigh, then walked out -- effectively ending the debate."

Wow, really?  Shooting someone is deemed an "effective" way to end any "debate", eh?

Hmmm....given your profession, obvious political bias and level of ignorance you might want to reconsider that policy...but I doubt you will, so no doubt being hoisted on your own petard is coming for you sooner that you would like...

 ::mooning::

   Isn't taking money from foreign governments inviting them into our governments inner workings also?? Just saying.

Well, sh*t...gotta get something for that money, right?

#OnlyProgsGetAGetOutOfTreasonFreeCard
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2016, 06:54:15 AM
#DryVagina backed by #UppityNigger vs #NarcissisticBizman . . .

I'll take repairing the economy for now...& work on the rest moving forward... ::snoshovel::

Gonna need a bigger shovel...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2016, 06:57:48 AM
In another example of Trump's difference from the staid business as usual Pubbies...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

...flaming your opponent while it lies from one moment to the next demonstrates a level of commitment we have haven't seen much of...

And in another in-your-face slap to Hitlery and her aversion for events not staged, stacked, scripted and packed ahead of time...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/286453-i-am-donald-trump-ask-me-anything-trump-becomes-first-presidential-candidate-to-do-a-reddit-ama/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/286453-i-am-donald-trump-ask-me-anything-trump-becomes-first-presidential-candidate-to-do-a-reddit-ama/)

Yup, this is going to be a different kind of show, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on July 29, 2016, 11:44:13 AM
Trump may be a hard swallow to pull a lever for....But my goodness, the liberal agenda was on full tilt display, complete with disrespecting dead patriots, Russian warships and that prayer offered by the woman was one of the most disrespectful things I've ever witnessed.

And no...I didn't watch. These were sent to me, so I watched the full prayer and the might of the mighty Russian fleet.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2016, 08:00:41 AM
This one triggered my meter quickly...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/BSDetector.gif)

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289859-third-party-support-surging (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289859-third-party-support-surging)

As always...promoting such clowns is meant to dilute support for the GOP candidate, no matter how it is spun.

The Greenies have never amounted to a bucket of pooh and Johnson...meh...can't believe the Code-Pink strain of Libertarian is latching on to that imbecile!

 ::mooning::   ::mooning::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2016, 08:43:15 AM
Hilarious...WaPo gives Hitlery lie-a-thon performance in 7/31 FauxNews interview "4 Pinocchio's"!

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pinocchio_4.jpg)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/286985-wapo-fact-checker-gives-clinton-four-pinocchios-over-her-claim-fbi-director-said-her-email-answers-were-truthful/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/286985-wapo-fact-checker-gives-clinton-four-pinocchios-over-her-claim-fbi-director-said-her-email-answers-were-truthful/)

(https://i.sli.mg/ZV1cxn.gif)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2016, 11:55:41 AM
Open question - Is this expected to hurt Trump?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-post-runs-naked-pics-trumps-wife-again-093411944.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-post-runs-naked-pics-trumps-wife-again-093411944.html)

I mean if Obama's spouse...Clinton's spouse (pick one)...it probably would make most people scream in horror and rip their own eyes out of their sockets...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 01, 2016, 01:30:22 PM
Open question - Is this expected to hurt Trump?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-post-runs-naked-pics-trumps-wife-again-093411944.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-post-runs-naked-pics-trumps-wife-again-093411944.html)

I mean if Obama's spouse...Clinton's spouse (pick one)...it probably would make most people scream in horror and rip their own eyes out of their sockets...

 ::hysterical::

I've seen nudes of Moochelle. At the zoo.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 01, 2016, 05:10:35 PM
(http://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/aspeech_large.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2016, 07:06:42 AM
You know what I'm thinking?

Yeah, push Bill in, lock that door, seal the whole area with reinforced concrete, radioactive nuclear waste, bacon bits and several thousand tons of gravel...

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: fordguy_85 on August 02, 2016, 07:21:32 AM
You know what I'm thinking?

Yeah, push Bill in, lock that door, seal the whole area with reinforced concrete, radioactive nuclear waste, bacon bits and several thousand tons of gravel...

 ::whoohoo::

Seems like a waste of good bacon bits... Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2016, 07:26:19 AM
You know what I'm thinking?

Yeah, push Bill in, lock that door, seal the whole area with reinforced concrete, radioactive nuclear waste, bacon bits and several thousand tons of gravel...

 ::whoohoo::

Seems like a waste of good bacon bits... Lol

I know...but it's a safety measure to keep Islaminals from digging for the radioactive nuclear waste that keeps everybody else out...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: fordguy_85 on August 02, 2016, 08:15:18 AM
You know what I'm thinking?

Yeah, push Bill in, lock that door, seal the whole area with reinforced concrete, radioactive nuclear waste, bacon bits and several thousand tons of gravel...

 ::whoohoo::

Seems like a waste of good bacon bits... Lol

I know...but it's a safety measure to keep Islaminals from digging for the radioactive nuclear waste that keeps everybody else out...

Fair enough use then... I'm a bit slow on the uptake this morning; I'm just past halfway through a 16-hr shift.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 02, 2016, 10:08:50 AM
Oh, and as I predicted...Prog-saturated MFM giving Trump his little post-convention "bounce"...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/)

...to be followed by the ever so predictable "flip" the other direction following Hitlery's coronation...a lead that will never go away through election day...

 ::bsmeter::


Oh count on it.  This is their "maintain the appearance that our polls are legitimate" phase.


Certainly called this.  The media are making a big deal about Hillary getting a bigger convention bounce than Trump.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Oh, and as I predicted...Prog-saturated MFM giving Trump his little post-convention "bounce"...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/285694-new-cnn-poll-shows-trump-now-leading-clinton-48-45-6-point-bounce/)

...to be followed by the ever so predictable "flip" the other direction following Hitlery's coronation...a lead that will never go away through election day...

 ::bsmeter::


Oh count on it.  This is their "maintain the appearance that our polls are legitimate" phase.


Certainly called this.  The media are making a big deal about Hillary getting a bigger convention bounce than Trump.

It was too easy...it happens every fricken POTUS election year, without fail...and with the daily trickle of sleaze, corruption and filth leaking from Hitlery they'll use this as "solid proof" that "the people" have rendered their judgment that all these allegations of wrongdoing are baseless and politically motivated and are not helping her opponent one bit and are in fact hurting him because "the people" are tired of the politics of personal destruction blah blah blah...the same old lies and accusing others of your sins schtick!

The only way to cut through it is to continue to hammer her, continue to hammer the lapdog media for eating the biscuits shot out her ass and to out hustle that fat-ankled succubus and make ample use of ridicule and outrage.

I see Trump not backing off one bit...and I see Team Evil and their sycophants continuing to lie, cheat and steal.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 02, 2016, 05:05:15 PM
The ole dem bounce. I read a story where Clinton received a bigger bounce than Trump and the explanation as to why. Ho hum. Predictable the constant drumbeat of bashing Trump. We will never see the story in mainstream news of Clinton bashing the Gold Star mother who personally blamed Clinton....But oh boy, we are definitely hearing the Kahn side. Not to mention dads sleazy antics to get refugees into our country. Kudos to Trump to keep the attacks going because we all know every other pubbie would have caved and groveled like a millinial in skinny jeans.

wasserman Shultz said it best: Clinton needs to keep her base ignorant. The media happily obliges.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 03, 2016, 08:53:09 AM
Yep, they are off to the races with the "Clinton got a nice convention bump" narrative.  They probably had all these articles written before the conventions even happened.  This was as predictable as the sun rising in the east.  Show Trump doing well before the Coven in Philadelphia, to maintain some semblance of legitimacy, then ride out the remainder of the election on the narrative of "Clinton simply got out of reach after that great convention bounce."

And who really gives that much of a sh*t about conventions anyway?  "You know, I was thinking she was a cold and cynical power seeker before the convention, but I really like those balloons they dropped at the end."

Trump’s Chances Of Winning The Election Just Plummeted, Says Statistician (http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/02/trumps-chances-of-winning-the-election-just-plummeted-says-statistician/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 03, 2016, 12:36:52 PM
Oh, and the sour-grapes will run with the MFM BS too...losers like Boozer Beck and the rest of the #NeverTrump Establishment dupes...

 ::mooning::

PS-Somebody put this cadaver in a box and seal it up...

http://www.drudgereport.com/nows.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/nows.htm)

 ::puke::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 03, 2016, 12:54:43 PM
Then of course there's this.  The latest LA Times poll shows Trump still on top.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/trump-top-latest-usc-la-times-daybreak-tracking-poll/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/trump-top-latest-usc-la-times-daybreak-tracking-poll/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on August 03, 2016, 08:36:52 PM
  Just keep in mind that figures don't lie but liars figure.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2016, 07:20:46 AM
Yes, there are lies, damn lies...statistics...and anything spewed by a Prog!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 04, 2016, 09:16:09 AM
Good News.  Just saying someone worked for the Clintons is now a "smear"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2016/08/03/obeidallah-goes-berzerk-after-cnn-guest-recalls-khan-ties (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2016/08/03/obeidallah-goes-berzerk-after-cnn-guest-recalls-khan-ties)

Talking about living rent free in someone's head.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 04, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
There are two memes being promulgated.  Actually one meme taking over from another.  The first meme was the "how dare Trump insult these Gold Star parents?" but that one is losing some traction as Khan's history comes to light.  So the replacement meme is the "the Trump campaign is imploding.  Is the RNC going to intervene?" bullsh*t.

In my personal sh*tlist, when the mass hangings occur, the so-called "journalists" should go before any of the rest.  Before the politicians even.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 04, 2016, 11:02:55 AM


http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-08-03.html (http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-08-03.html)

Quote
In order to shut down a debate they're losing, Democrats find victims to make their arguments for them, pre-empting counter-argument by droning on about the suffering of their victim-spokesperson. Alternative opinions must be preceded by proof that the speaker has "sacrificed" more than someone who lost a child, a husband, or whatever. Khan's argument, delivered angrily and in a thick Pakistani accent at the DNC, is that "our" Constitution requires us to continue the nonstop importation of Muslims. If the U.S. Constitution required us to admit more than 100,000 Muslims a year -- as we do -- we'd already be living in Pakistan, and Khan wouldn't have had to move to get that nice feeling of home. So the "argument" part of Khan's point is gibberish. Luckily, Khan had Part Two: His son died in Iraq, whereas Donald Trump does not have a son who died in Iraq, so he can't say anything. Yes, a candidate for president of the United States is supposed to be prohibited from discussing a dangerous immigration program because Khan's son was one of fourteen (14!) Muslim servicemen killed by other Muslims in our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's why we're obligated to import yet more Muslims – including, undoubtedly, some just like the ones who killed his son. Q.E.D.! If you think that doesn't make any sense, keep your yap shut, unless you lost a child in Iraq, too.
 

Yeah,  sorry you lost your son.  That does not give you a get-out-of-jail card for everything you say, believe and do in your life henceforth,  and if you are still grieving and don't want your life to be investigated and have to defined those actions and views ,  don't take a speaking gig at the DNC convention.

The MEDIA is complicit in calling the Benghazi parents Liars - and they lost sons as a direct result of Hillary's actions... even though there is Video of the Obama admin telling the WHOLE NATION  it was a you tube video that caused the violence and multiple families collaborate that Hillary said the same thing.

If it weren't for the double standards, they would have no standards at all .

Right now,  I am telling liberals that I don't care if Trump destroys the whole god damn planet as President. If they spend the intervening time between now and Armageddon suffering and angry because of a Trump presidency  than I am HAPPY to vote for Trump. Civility? If you wanted that  you  should have demanded it form your own side as well...   Screw that and screw you.
 


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
I'm glad this LtGov didn't back down...but it does show the impossible feat of trying to use common sense and logic with an emoting fool who is also a professional grade agitator, liar and low-life scum-sucking Musloid-kissing tool!

Khan is a Sharia-pimping Constitution and Declaration hating scum-sucking Islamic incubus!  I don't care what his kid did, we are talking about what the asshole father is doing and has done!

Didn't anybody bring this up?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14446.msg156024;topicseen#msg156024 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14446.msg156024;topicseen#msg156024)

Whaddafuqq?!

Glock is right...but at that time, things are going to be so busy...the pecking order won't matter as we won't want any to escape what's coming for them!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 04, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
There are two memes being promulgated.  Actually one meme taking over from another.  The first meme was the "how dare Trump insult these Gold Star parents?" but that one is losing some traction as Khan's history comes to light.  So the replacement meme is the "the Trump campaign is imploding.  Is the RNC going to intervene?" bullsh*t.

In my personal sh*tlist, when the mass hangings occur, the so-called "journalists" should go before any of the rest.  Before the politicians even.

The best thing is that all you have to do is prop up a camera and they'll out themselves in their haste to get in front of it.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 04, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
Quote
Khan is a Sharia-pimping Constitution and Declaration hating scum-sucking Islamic incubus!  I don't care what his kid did, we are talking about what the asshole father is doing and has done!

What Khan did at the Convention by waving our Constitution in our faces, the very Constitution he believes should be overridden by Sharia law, is a precise example of the demand that we allow our Constitution to be a suicide pact.

'slims have been pulling the Alinsky on us -- "hold them to their own rules" -- as long or longer than the Left.

Bullspit to that.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2016, 06:14:33 PM
I'd really like to know the relationship between father and son. I don't want to question whether his son was genuine in his service, he died, but I'll question the father until he meets allah. ( which btw, will be never)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Magnum on August 04, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
Since Islam has been brought up,these are the people that the left supports............ the religion of peace.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXAwohdBZE#)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.forward.com/images/303x227/palestine-flag-gettyimages-580949600-1469569442.jpg)

This election for me is clear.  I am seeing a real dark ugly evil side of the left as they no longer try to hide it. Now that God of the Bible is being taken out of all aspects of American life we are seeing the fruits of a godless life. The left seems they will do anything to remain/acquire power and spread their evil dark socialist doctrine, the truth be damned. Even though I do not much like Trump how anybody can vote for Hillary and what she and her party stands for to me is unconscionable.
   
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
You what I was thinking as I watched that video?  I'm sure others saw what I saw...evil scum using their own children as expendable pawns to push their lies and advance their wicked agenda...and there is another group of evil scum who also routinely exploits children and dares tell people they are doing it for them as they exploit them and dares accuse their enemies they hate them while they do this despicable deed - Progs!

Islaminals and Progs, as Pan noted, are all about exploitation and using peoples values against them, it doesn't get any more evil than that!

It is why we can never deal with the former until we deal with the latter.

Trump is the wrecking ball, the E-GOP deserved a candidate like Trump because they've cynically made people like us pinch our noses and swallow our principles to vote for their Establishment Do-Nothings that more often than not go on to lose to the worst candidates the Progs belch up simply on the basis that we would never vote for the Prog.  But they've seen us go elsewhere and now anybody who fought them head on was sure to earn most of our respect...and now that the shoe is on the other foot that cynical ploy no longer works...they are not going to vote for Trump because he is less revolting than the Prog, they'll pass on Trump because they hate him for exposing their weakness.  But Trump is pulling in most of the Independents than the E-GOP usually touts as being more valuable than the damned Conservatives and he is getting most of the Libertarian support despite that idiot Gary Johnson and he is even winning over some Dem's.  And now Trump can be the wrecking ball in the general election.  So far it seems to be working.  Much like in 1980 the crowds tell the story...Trump draws thousands to events...Clinton merely draws a few hundred and most of those are probably potted plants!  If he wins and goes on to be the wrecking ball some more, fine with me. 

At this point that is perhaps the best deal we can get.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2016, 07:44:31 AM
Meanwhile on the campaign trails...

The champion of the Code-Pink wing of the Libertarian Party and the great white dope of the E-GOP #NeverTrump cabal Gary Johnson, endorses BLM (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/libertarian-candidate-gary-johnson-endorses-black-lives-matter).

Awesome, add racist white-hating terrorists to a clown already down with open borders, abortion on demand, weed and heroine for all, globull warmink and amnesty etc to the #NeverTrumper's "I can live with that" list.

 ::vafancoul::

And in the Team Evil camp...concerns over the mental stability of their standard-bearer...

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/hillarys-bizarre-behavior-.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/the-truth-about-hillarys-bizarre-behavior/ (http://iotwreport.com/the-truth-about-hillarys-bizarre-behavior/)

Another reason why I want to push her and all the Progs HARD all the time non-stop!  This could especially come in handy in the debates.  Even with Prog moderators all in her camp, it still comes down to the candidates.  What's Hillary going to do?  Obviously this damage came from the aftermath of the Benghazi Debacle, if you all recall she had some sort of episode there the public was never given a full or accurate story on, and I seriously doubt she will ever release her health records unless heavily redacted.  I think she had a stroke or something.  She either has to go into the debates heavily medicated or alert and fully batshyt crazy.  I'd hammer her like a stubborn nail and make her run off the stage crying or snap and go psychotic before all of America!

ETA -

59% of voters also now believe all major presidential candidates should release at least their most recent medical records to the public.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2016/most_want_to_see_clinton_trump_tax_returns_medical_records (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2016/most_want_to_see_clinton_trump_tax_returns_medical_records)

Yeah, well...see comment above, serf!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 05, 2016, 08:52:07 AM
Yes, I hope Trump pushes all her buttons in the debates.  I want to see the angry, shrill, unhinged Hillary on national TV.  I think her personality is such that if you push the right buttons, she is incapable of not flipping out on the one pushing the buttons.

And as for the whole "waving our Constitution in our faces" thing, how exactly is that supposed to chasten us anyway?  What, does the Constitution say we are obligated to allow unlimited immigration from anywhere?

The immigration issue boils down to one key difference.  We believe that a nation has the right to decide who and how many it will accept as new citizens.  The progs believe that potential immigrants are the ones who get to decide this, that by showing up they have decided for us who and how many we must accept.  It's totally backwards.  I have taken to using a new expression: "weaponized wombs."  That's what immigrants are to the progs.  They are vessels used to deploy demographic weapons of mass destruction against us.  We are not cooperative to the goals of the progs, so they'll just import themselves a replacement population, one compliant to their goals.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2016, 09:39:05 AM
Yes, I have yet to see a Prog step up and answer my question honestly...legal vs illegal immigration (while I have issues with how the former is implemented) provides the vehicle...Progs would have us believe it is unfair, unconstitutional and un-American and just plain evil to make people come up to the front door and ring the bell and wait to be addressed before being allowed to enter their home but it is totally fair, totally constitutional and totally American to just let strangers walk into your unlocked back door any time and do whatever they want in your house and to anybody in your house as they please.  All total BS, pure outright lie...but they will never admit it because then their whole dogma would come crashing down.

I'm all for the crash part...I want to crash their faces in!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2016, 08:01:41 AM
Silly season really cranking up now.

The Old Gray Whore is firing up the "Gosh, we're objective, just trust us" campaign...dares to proclaim itself (and the rest of the MFM) as "unbiased"! (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html?_r=0)  You believe that BS?  Yeah, me neither.  And if you look at their wording closely, they didn't say they are not biased...they said "It is journalism’s job to be true to the readers and viewers, and true to the facts, in a way that will stand up to history’s judgment."...so what they are actually saying is they can practice their version of takkiya and lie to people because their "audience" is mostly progs who are OK to lie to because they've been lies to their entire lives and expect it...so any non-progs reading their propaganda, well, too bad if you don't like the message...and what they say are "facts" that will stand up to "history's judgment" merely means the facts don't matter because they and their masters expect to be in power forever and writing the history for perpetuity, so nobody will be there to say they lied...which I guess means all dissent is eliminated, and much of that by force it seems.

You see, The Old Gray Whore just announced they and their masters are fascists who will obliterate all opposition and there isn't anything anybody can do about it.

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/demofascists_zpsug6f27zo.gif)

And they've declared Open Season on Trump and all prog opponents.  Let the games begin.

And to help aid their cheating, Soros-funded shyster Marc Elias is suing everybody and anybody to make it easier for DemonRats to flood the Diebold machines (http://www.weaselzippers.us/288250-super-lawyer-behind-challenging-election-laws-works-for-dnc-and-hillary-and-is-funded-by-soros/).

Sure would be nice if the VRWC would Fort Marcy Park that clown!

Meanwhile, Hildabeast picks up the endorsement of the long-time ComIntern-infested Communist Party USA (http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/communist-party-unites-behind-hillary/).

Big shock.

On the plus side is the Drudge headliner today -

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpSc3XmWEAQR-TA.jpg)

2016: HILLARY CONQUERS THE STAIRS... (http://theamericanmirror.com/shock-photo-grandma-hillary-helped-stairs/)

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/01/03/us/03clinton_337/03clinton_337-jumbo.jpg)

2012: FALLS AT HOME, BLOOD CLOT... (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-is-discharged-from-hospital-after-blood-clot.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEPoeZxzg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEPoeZxzg)

2011: FALLS BOARDING PLANE...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/us/politics/19clinton.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/us/politics/19clinton.html)

2009: FALLS GOING TO WHITE HOUSE, BROKEN ELBOW...

Hildabest looking more clumsy than Gerald Ford!   ::hysterical::

Oh, and let me rephrase these headlines...

2009 - 1st stroke-induced fall of Hillary Clinton.

2011 - 2nd stroke-induced fall of Hillary Clinton.

2012 - Post Benghazi nervous breakdown of Hillary Clinton. Leading to: stress-induced stroke, fall and neurological trauma to the cranium of Hillary Clinton.

2016 - Being over-weight, clumsy due to neurological damage from previous strokes and falls...pictured being helped up what appears to be easily traversed stairs by any reasonably healthy 68 year old person.

Something seriously wrong with this creatures health and they'll be damned if they ever release an honest health record...somebody really needs to hack into that info...I mean how hard is it?  Probably on her private server too! 

And to give credence to my stroke theory...

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/hillary-handler-diazepama.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpTa1zwUEAUGB6a.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/does-hillary-have-a-handler-that-carries-a-diazepam-pen/ (http://iotwreport.com/does-hillary-have-a-handler-that-carries-a-diazepam-pen/)

Nice dig, that!  If this isn't made a major deal then America is truly getting fvcked over!

And overcoming willfully disingenous feminazi twits like Cokie Roberts (http://www.weaselzippers.us/288213-cokie-roberts-trump-calling-hillary-unhinged-and-saying-she-doesnt-look-presidential-is-code-for-we-shouldnt-elect-a-woman/) is going to have to be taken head-on!  No, it isn't sexist or anti-woman to not want a neurologically-impaired national-security nightmare and outright perjurer to be POTUS, gender has nothing to do with it you psychotic whore!

And overcoming the stupid in the GOP is still an obstacle for Trump in some quarters...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/288147-kasich-says-trump-cant-win-ohio-still-wont-endorse-gop-nominee/]John Kasich concedes Ohio to Clinton, won't bother fighting to prevent that from becoming a reality (http://).

Fvck you, John!  What a crybaby pussy!  He and Beck and the rest of the Establishment losers can go outside and play hide and drop effing dead!

If I were Trump I would still campaign there and ask people at every rally if they believe Kasich is right and Ohio is lost to Clinton, ask if that is alright with them!  Make them turn the screws on little Johnnie!

 ::doublebird::

I tell ya, this is going to be a long 80-something days!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 08, 2016, 10:05:07 AM
So the Communist Party endorsed Hillary.  Does that mean the MSM will incessantly ask Hillary if she disavows their endorsement?  I mean, they seemed incredibly interested in David Duke endorsing Trump so surely, since they're perfectly objective and all that, they will demand an answer from Hillary on this.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Soon to be "Checkpoint Hillary"...

(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_Private_Sector_Checkpoint.jpg)

But I'd rather see this on the first debate night...

(http://thepeoplescube.com/red/gallery/captain-craptek-a145/hillaryhead-i8451.jpg)

 ::whoohoo::

H/T-ThePeoplesCube
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2016, 07:18:19 AM
Another neuro-misfire for the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi -

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlxWckQbpug#)

Anybody saying there isn't something wrong with this critter is nuts...anybody saying American's don't have a right to know is a domestic enemy.

And I don't care if stuff like this is fake or not (http://iotwreport.com/real-or-fake-the-uploader-of-these-documents-is-in-a-lot-of-trouble-maybe-it-is-worth-it-to-them/), I would go full-DanRather on this and push it hard, besides if Progs can do it and nobody gets punished for it, why not?  It's not like official unredacted/unaltered medical records on this sick creature are going to be released!

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpZi46vXYAAEmNp.jpg)

And lets get more info on her handler too.

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpToNiuVMAAfuwW.jpg)

Should be planting bugs all over this guy and stalking him 24/7.

We cannot risk letting this lunatic anywhere near the Oval Office!

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpW4V15UEAEv3Zt.jpg)

Scary, as well as extremely un-Presidential.

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpRimGfUMAA_sPn.jpg)

Oops, handler missed that boo boo.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/08/03/clinton%20shooter%20teaser_0.jpg)

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/08/07/20160808_hillary2.jpg)

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/08/07/20160808_hillary3_0.jpg)

Islamist incubus that sired the Orlando jihadist is a proud Hillary Clinton supporter. (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-09/why-father-orlando-mass-shooter-was-sitting-behind-hillary)

Hopefully soon he will join his spawn in Hell to enjoy being gang-raped by 72+ demons for eternity!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 10, 2016, 08:44:56 AM
In a stroke of pure bravery in light of recent stroke-induced neuro episodes the Smartest Woman in the Galaxy and her drooling lapdog are "scraping" plans to chat with their friendly pals in Big Propaganda (http://iotwreport.com/clinton-kaine-scrap-plans-to-talk-to-press/).

Wow, when you cannot even be trusted to operate at a bare-minimum of appearing normal and knock softballs out of the park served up by your pals...you know your not up to the rigors of a presidential campaign let alone functioning in the office itself!!!

 ::hysterical::

Maybe she is busy readying plans for her hit squad to silence the latest critic of her self-titled status as "Women's Rights Champion without Peer!" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html), eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 10, 2016, 08:48:44 AM
Thomas Sowell  has a new column about Trump - http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/08/10/new-critics-of-trump-n2203475?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/08/10/new-critics-of-trump-n2203475?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=)

But today the gem of thought didn't come from Sowell - but from the first comment

Quote
Daniel A. Gorski • 9 hours ago

Trump can be impeached. Hillary can't. Case closed. Trump in a landslide.

Trump 2016!
Unlike Hillary,  he can be impeached!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 10, 2016, 08:54:44 AM
Heh.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 10, 2016, 02:32:43 PM
In a stroke of pure bravery in light of recent stroke-induced neuro episodes the Smartest Woman in the Galaxy and her drooling lapdog are "scraping" plans to chat with their friendly pals in Big Propaganda (http://iotwreport.com/clinton-kaine-scrap-plans-to-talk-to-press/).

Wow, when you cannot even be trusted to operate at a bare-minimum of appearing normal and knock softballs out of the park served up by your pals...you know your not up to the rigors of a presidential campaign let alone functioning in the office itself!!!

 ::hysterical::

Maybe she is busy readying plans for her hit squad to silence the latest critic of her self-titled status as "Women's Rights Champion without Peer!" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html), eh?


Clearly there is something medically wrong with her.  She cannot handle spontaneous appearances.  It must require heroic medical intervention to prop her up long enough for scripted events, and even then she is showing signs that all kind of something is wrong with her.

I don't know what's the bigger story, that we have a major party candidate for president who is so clearly unfit for the job or that we have a media that absolutely refuses to show the slightest curiosity about it.  Probably the latter.  I maintain my position that the media are our #1 enemy.  If we had a media that was only slightly left of center, let alone genuinely neutral, people's perception of reality would be so dramatically different.

But seriously, there's something majorly wrong with Hillary and it's not just her sh*tty ideology.  It's obvious to anyone who cares to see it.  And that's just it, we have a media that does not care to see it, and they are bound and determined that the LIVs won't either.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 10, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
I suppose that'll be my solace...someday (sooner than later) Hellery is gonna bust a seam and it'll all be done.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2016, 07:36:00 AM
Hillary the succubus has never been the same since Benghazi.

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/operation-hillary-clinton-edition-full-.jpg)

I am almost certain she had a stroke then, probably thought O'Bongo was going to throw her to the wolves and take the hit for the botched guns-to-jihadi's deal...it would also explain the dirt on Obama who inexplicably continues to cover the ample ass of this most corrupt and wicked woman!  It's shared dirt, a political version of MAD.  It's the ONLY thing that makes any sense!

Obama had his boy in the FBI shut down E-MailGate.

Uber Bitch Lynch denies FBI request to look into Clinton Foundation "Pay-to-Play" scheme (http://www.weaselzippers.us/288874-report-ag-loretta-lynch-declined-fbis-request-that-they-open-investigation-into-clinton-fdn/) and the reports keep coming out about more evidence of the illegal operations of the Clinton Foundation  (http://www.weaselzippers.us/288758-emails-reveal-hillarys-pay-for-play-scheme/)via more E-MailGate email dumps...and still this psychotic brain-damaged wicked old hag goes on about her business scot free!

America is a f**ked up banana republic right NOW!  This isn't something we are in danger of becoming, we are a sad pathetic joke right NOW!

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4078/1184/original.jpg)

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4077/9862/original.jpg)

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48ed1cbd9f188874b31963d7adf1c1a7e8744145db6168352e6d0f4cf38a0724.jpg)

This shyt is FUBAR!

 ::upsidedownflag::

Let's get to the lying, cheating and stealing and get to the real contest between Liberty and Death already!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Flags/timesup_zpsda1lsnzn.gif)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 11, 2016, 11:37:40 AM
The brazenness of their lying and corruption only makes them more popular among their idiot base.  It's not just a joke when we say this kind of stuff is a Democrat resume enhancer.  They see it as proof that it is their right to rule.

Truth is powerless, facts are powerless, there is no possibility of justice.  It just enrages you to a point where you understand how those revolts of the past got out of hand.  You would look at things like the French Revolution and wonder how it descended into such wanton murder and violence, but our modern situation gives you an inkling into the thinking that must have been going on then.  They knew there was corruption and lies all around them, people who were beyond justice and flaunting it, and I think a "nuke the entire site from orbit" mindset must have taken hold.

Whenever this thing finally breaks loose here, I think the same stuff is going to happen.  People don't have precise information about the who/what/where of the corruption, but they have good general ideas and I foresee a "let God sort them out" mindset taking hold.


ETA - I like that new take on the Gadsden flag.  I would like to see one with "They Dared Tread" under it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Yeah, when people realize there isn't any reason to GAFF any longer, when there is no justice, no voice, no consideration for them at all...that's when it will be game on.

I expect the two most common words of this period will be "fvck it!".

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/wtp_zpsvnmnmmab.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/OM_zpsu6x4catk.gif)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/us-capitol-building-and_Torches_01_zpseac2d1ca.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 11, 2016, 05:38:59 PM
Reuters is reporting that the whole CNN " The Feds are discussing his 2nd amendment comments with him" is false. And I thought Dan  Rather lost his job.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2016, 05:24:40 PM
The whole left-wing Obama-excusing Clinton-covering cabal is still neck deep in treason with no signs of letting up...

They really want to see Bill as First Lady than Melania Trump...

I'm fed up with the presscorpse...they can all drop dead.

I like this guy featured prominently on Drudge today -

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpnlutUXgAASdK_.jpg)

"You are traitors! I am an American Patriot!"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/08/12/trump_rally-goer_to_cnn_reporter_i_am_a_patriot_and_you_are_a_traitor.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/08/12/trump_rally-goer_to_cnn_reporter_i_am_a_patriot_and_you_are_a_traitor.html)

Understatement of the millennium!

BITS!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 12, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
I always like the Trump and Hillary rally pictures. Trumps are packed and Hillary can't draw a crowd....But, what we must remember is each Hillary supporter you see will vote 4 times and digging up the dead and sitting them in seats would be low, even for democrats.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 12, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
Quote
I expect the two most common words of this period will be "fvck it!".

(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/057f5b_d134d3124f734f3eab56b87df2253de2.jpg_srz_p_500_333_75_22_0.5_1.2_0_jpg_srz)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
I always like the Trump and Hillary rally pictures. Trumps are packed and Hillary can't draw a crowd....But, what we must remember is each Hillary supporter you see will vote 4 times and digging up the dead and sitting them in seats would be low, even for democrats.

Like these?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpqxrU_VYAYHRWq.jpg)

Yeah, people are seeing these even though the MFM is trying hard to suppress them and lie about them.

It will make for more anger if the election is stolen, whatever sparks the next shot heard around the world is fine with me...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
Quote
I expect the two most common words of this period will be "fvck it!".

(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/057f5b_d134d3124f734f3eab56b87df2253de2.jpg_srz_p_500_333_75_22_0.5_1.2_0_jpg_srz)

Perfect!  Where can I get a few thousand of them?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 12, 2016, 05:48:41 PM
I always like the Trump and Hillary rally pictures. Trumps are packed and Hillary can't draw a crowd....But, what we must remember is each Hillary supporter you see will vote 4 times and digging up the dead and sitting them in seats would be low, even for democrats.

Like these?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpqxrU_VYAYHRWq.jpg)

Yeah, people are seeing these even though the MFM is trying hard to suppress them and lie about them.

It will make for more anger if the election is stolen, whatever sparks the next shot heard around the world is fine with me...


I'm sorry....They did dig up the dead.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2016, 05:55:50 PM
Hillary the succubus has never been the same since Benghazi.

The lack of transparency coupled with pervasive media ass-covering is leading to speculation, now one source is suggesting Clinton has Parkinson's...

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/12/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease-physician-confirms/ (http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/12/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease-physician-confirms/)

...I don't know if this Anesthesiologist, RN bro and pal with PD are right or not, but it is one theory.  Stroke, PD, whatever...pretty stupid to entrust a nation to a person who isn't always there, eh?  But hey, this is the same press that hid FDR's Polio, JFK's bad back and pill-popping, spuzz-stained dresses, treason du juor ad naseum...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 12, 2016, 05:57:11 PM
http://www.trumpbanners.com/ (http://www.trumpbanners.com/)

I have no idea how legitimate this site is.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2016, 05:58:54 PM
http://www.trumpbanners.com/ (http://www.trumpbanners.com/)

I have no idea how legitimate this site is.

Caveat understood.   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on August 12, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
http://www.trumpbanners.com/ (http://www.trumpbanners.com/)

I have no idea how legitimate this site is.

Caveat understood.   ;)

Still very appropriate.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 12, 2016, 08:27:45 PM
I always like the Trump and Hillary rally pictures. Trumps are packed and Hillary can't draw a crowd....But, what we must remember is each Hillary supporter you see will vote 4 times and digging up the dead and sitting them in seats would be low, even for democrats.

This has truly been a "Who ya gonna believe - me or your own lying eyes!?" election cycle. I frankly don't know what to make of the epic discrepancy between polling numbers and rally turnout.....but then I frankly don't GAS either.

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 13, 2016, 10:53:28 AM
As for the polling numbers, all I know is Trump had pulled ahead even in the MSM polls, then suddenly Reuters announces they are making a "correction" to their methodology, even going back and adjusting prior polling data, and ever since then the "Clinton has a significant lead" narrative has been set.

I don't know whether to believe any of these polls or not, and like Soup I also don't particularly GAS.  I am voting for Trump even if he's down 30 points by November.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on August 13, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
  The polls are total bullsh*t.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2016, 06:55:07 AM
I like JF's brevity!   ;D   ::thumbsup::

And the leftist-infested media has been the bull spreading the shyt for several indiction's!   ::outrage::

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/MFM/39932-Pravdamerica_Trump_dark_zpsfnvxhqlw.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/media-wings.jpg)

H/T-WRSA

Bleep 'em!  They'll all be dangling in the end.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 15, 2016, 12:07:19 PM
The media has no shame. Outed by the Shultz e mails with their brown noses in full view, they continue the good Clinton fight by subverting any piece of information or any word uttered by Trump. I'm sure they feel safe to keep up the good fight since the establishment types are also on board the Hillary train.

Trump is right, the election is rigged. My guess, election day the emboldened media will declare Hillary the winner by noon.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Yeah, I read somewhere the presstitutes are lamenting Trumps staying power after all this relentless demonization...I guess they expected him to fold up and grab ankles like every E-GOP standardbearer has done...

And I have no doubt these MFMer's will be doing whatever they can to discourage opposition turnout up to and through election day...

And the cheating and fraud will be setting new highs...or is it lows?

Trump or BITS?  Place your bets!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2016, 07:48:32 AM
Man, angles make all the difference, eh?

(http://i.imgur.com/Y82Z475.gif)  (http://i.imgur.com/9s80DCF.gif)

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hail-seizure-hillary-seizes-the-day-t18391.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hail-seizure-hillary-seizes-the-day-t18391.html)

 ::speechless::

One presstitute fraking out, two laughing on the right (lots more on the lest)...all OK with Batshyt Hildabeast ticks and all being POTUS...

 ::upsidedownflag::

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/40232-Hillary_Lightning.gif)

If only...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2016, 07:36:01 AM
Donald Trump, following weeks of gnawing agitation over his advisers’ attempts to temper his style, moved late Tuesday to overhaul his struggling campaign by rebuffing those efforts and elevating two longtime associates who have encouraged his combative populism.

Stephen Bannon, a former banker who runs the influential conservative outlet Breitbart News and is known for his fiercely anti-establishment politics, has been named the Trump campaign’s chief executive. Kellyanne Conway, a veteran Republican pollster who has been close to Trump for years, will assume the role of campaign manager.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/17/trump-reshuffles-staff-in-his-own-image/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/17/trump-reshuffles-staff-in-his-own-image/)

Good!  Drop the leash!  Let that dog bite!   ::whoohoo::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 17, 2016, 09:55:21 AM
I am not sure I buy the whole "struggling campaign" narrative anyway.  I figure it's at least as likely to be organized FUD.  But I do think it's a good idea to cast aside advisers who are so damn worried about "tone."  That's exactly the sort of crap people are sick of!  Trump's blunt unfiltered style is a big part of what drove him this far, it is refreshing honesty even if he occasionally makes you wince with vicarious embarrassment.

I detest the whole modern mass media phenomenon.  What good does it do?  Other than alerting people of emergencies, I can't think of anything it does better than the pre-24h news cycle media.  Particularly with politics it's a corrosive influence.  It makes entire elections turn on 30 second sound bites.  It rewards polished bullsh*t over genuine and honest people who might happen to be bad on TV, oh the horror of that.

Frankly I'm tired of 24 Hour Everything.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2016, 11:40:08 AM
I agree.  And the insidiousness of the MFM's libiot modus operandi is such that for me I no longer get tripped up by their BS...I blew right by their "struggling campaign" quip because it is as ubiquitous as the word "the" to these jackasses and I am not the intended audience for that dreck anyway so I just went to the good news.

All this modern "handling" by advisors is a gross overreaction by insecure candidates and merely an ambulance-chasing shakedown opportunity for the part of Poli-Sci and Comm nerds who suck at the private sector...and those of The Butthead variety are especially repugnant!

And I didn't look the first time but there are generally other lines in a typical prog's article...and skipping the middle...sure enough at the end -

"A Washington Post-ABC News poll released earlier this month showed Clinton opening an eight-point lead against Trump among registered voters. Nearly 6 in 10 voters surveyed in that poll said they do not believe he is qualified to be president. Trump's persistent unpopularity with minority voters has outweighed his strength among white voters in key battleground states and has potentially put several noncompetitive states for Democrats into play."

Wow, the superfecta of jurnotard bullsplatter!  Bogus poll cited as Holy Writ, ad hom character assassination without substance, whipping out the race-baiting card calling him a minority-hating cracker and telling people he cannot possibly win!

How predictable.

But hey, these jurnotards are named Robert Costa & Jose DelReal...

 ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
In other hilarious news...

Joe "What's a Brain?" Biden is at it again...

Biden Says Trump Can’t Be Trusted With Nuclear Codes (As He, Biden, Points Out Agent With Codes)
http://www.weaselzippers.us/289843-__trashed-34/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/289843-__trashed-34/)

 ::hysterical::

Keep talking crazy Joe!  This is way better comedy than any dreck coming out of Comedy Central!!! 

 ::laughonfloor::


And it appears the Bloody (and Crazy-assed addlebrained) Bitch of Benghazi also has pee problems...

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cath.jpg)

Some of the comments are a hoot!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 17, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
The democratic response? "Oh, it's just Joe being Joe."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2016, 07:36:33 AM
The democratic response? "Oh, it's just Joe being Joe."

He is the genuine article, a true idiot.  He reminds me of that goofy guy, the idiot partner of Slip Mahoney...like that guy I bet (in Mahoney's word's) Biden could write poetry using imbecilic parameter.

 :o
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2016, 08:07:09 AM
Corrupt Clinton Camp admits puppet's control candidates (http://www.weaselzippers.us/290751-clinton-campaign-manager-donald-trump-is-a-puppet-of-the-kremlin/)...and if indeed Trump is a puppet of Putin (which is better than being a puppet of whoever has their hand up Hillary's business), then competing hit teams  (http://www.weaselzippers.us/290823-putins-opponents-dying-left-and-right-in-strange-circumstances/)should really rack up some impressive numbers!

Place your bets!   ;D

In the meantime, a note from our sponsors...

(http://i.imgur.com/Blmxjor.gif)

H/T - TPC - http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/the-future-depends-on-hillary-t18412.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/the-future-depends-on-hillary-t18412.html)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 22, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
Hillary did used to be on the board of WalMart, making her a bona fide "People of Walmart."

 ::thinking::

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2016, 08:11:43 AM
That batshyt crazy injun chic is at it again...

She compared him to Hitler, likened his campaign to a “racist” version of “Fun with Dick and Jane” and even said he evoked the murderous child star in “The Bad Seed.”

“I just think he’s” an idiot, Cher said of Donald J. Trump, adding a decidedly unprintable modifier.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/291143-cher-compares-trump-to-hitler-while-she-introduces-hillary-clinton-at-campaign-fundraiser/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/291143-cher-compares-trump-to-hitler-while-she-introduces-hillary-clinton-at-campaign-fundraiser/)

Uhh huh...typical ignorant prog...

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4144/8928/original.jpg)

H/T - HARP2 Weaselzipper

Meanwhile, at Trump's rally in Austin...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/291205-actual-unsecured-wifi-network-at-trump-rally-in-austin-clinton-email-server/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/291205-actual-unsecured-wifi-network-at-trump-rally-in-austin-clinton-email-server/)

Heh!

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4144/7992/original.jpg)

H/T - Jarhead83 Weaselzipper

'It is a total embarrassment if our secretary of state can be bought or bribed or sold,' Trump said.
'It's a disgrace, this is a threat to the foundation of democracy. This is what happens in Third World countries.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3755742/Trump-slams-Clinton-Third-World-style-corruption.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3755742/Trump-slams-Clinton-Third-World-style-corruption.html)

Her strategy?  Use the presstitutes and Hollywood whackos to cover up and deflect her criminal activity and hide her mental and physical impairments to run out the clock...it's like the Benghazi playbook all over again...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-trump-email-strategy-227347 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-trump-email-strategy-227347)

Yup, welcome to Obamafied and Clintonized Amurikah...   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 24, 2016, 11:17:34 AM
If I could turn back time
If I could find a way
I'd take back those words that'll hurt you and you'd stay
I don't know why I did the things I did
I don't know why I said the things I said
Love's like a knife it can cut deep inside
Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes


Cher, if I could turn back time I'd beg your dad to use a condom.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2016, 11:26:46 AM
If I could turn back time
If I could find a way
I'd take back those words that'll hurt you and you'd stay
I don't know why I did the things I did
I don't know why I said the things I said
Love's like a knife it can cut deep inside
Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes


Cher, if I could turn back time I'd beg your dad to use a condom.

 ::laughonfloor::

 ::clapping::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 25, 2016, 07:56:11 AM
Classified briefings for open-server Hillary?

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/292498-clinton-to-receive-intelligence-briefing-saturday (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/292498-clinton-to-receive-intelligence-briefing-saturday)

WTF?  Why not just publish it now in the NY Times and be done with it?!

What?  Oh, Team EvilTM wants to leak it as normal and then blame it on Trump?  Oh, right...for a second there I forgot we're talking about the most corrupt crook in politics and the legion of stooges in the media...my bad.

I'm sure beta's like this will lap that puke up...

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CqqiwmPXgAAnY6D-768x494.jpg)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/291369-no-joke-clinton-campaign-website-selling-pantsuit-up-t-shirt-for-men/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/291369-no-joke-clinton-campaign-website-selling-pantsuit-up-t-shirt-for-men/)

 ::hysterical::  OMG, what a pansy!   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on August 25, 2016, 02:26:03 PM
Classified briefings for open-server Hillary?

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/292498-clinton-to-receive-intelligence-briefing-saturday (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/292498-clinton-to-receive-intelligence-briefing-saturday)

WTF?  Why not just publish it now in the NY Times and be done with it?!

What?  Oh, Team EvilTM wants to leak it as normal and then blame it on Trump?  Oh, right...for a second there I forgot we're talking about the most corrupt crook in politics and the legion of stooges in the media...my bad.

I'm sure beta's like this will lap that puke up...

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CqqiwmPXgAAnY6D-768x494.jpg)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/291369-no-joke-clinton-campaign-website-selling-pantsuit-up-t-shirt-for-men/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/291369-no-joke-clinton-campaign-website-selling-pantsuit-up-t-shirt-for-men/)

 ::hysterical::  OMG, what a pansy!   ::laughonfloor::


Hey...a pair of skinny jeans.....pantsuit t shirt.....sandals.....and a jar of Vaseline.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2016, 08:20:48 AM
And from the standpoint that Hitlery and the Leftists really don't know they are playing with fire...

http://www.vdare.com/posts/hillarys-speech-on-what-the-altrightmeans (http://www.vdare.com/posts/hillarys-speech-on-what-the-altrightmeans)

Yeah, bleep 'em...let 'em find out the hard way, as usual...

 ::smallestviolin::

And some proof it is bombing...

http://iotwreport.com/hillary-speech-accusing-trump-of-racism-bombs-with-online-viewers/ (http://iotwreport.com/hillary-speech-accusing-trump-of-racism-bombs-with-online-viewers/)

An act of desperation...it's still August for God's sake...this should be called out by Trump as a pathetic, despicable and desperate act of a failing campaign...tell everyone Hillary is headed for an epic repudiation...and repeat it all often!

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/5672d8f26770be29b3819f0a2d21e10e-1.jpg)

...psychotic anti-American Allinsky cultist bi-sexual murderous treasonous despicable lying addle-brained diaper-stain on humanity!

 ::vafancoul::

Oh, and the real racist lover is...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/racistloverclinton_zpsvpzgyg55.png)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2016, 08:51:03 AM
And this...

What is at stake in this presidential battle?  In what terms should the issues be defined?  What principles should be considered?  What are the consequences of continuing present-day liberal progressivism?  A short list comes to mind.

Individual liberty vs. statism
Nationalism vs. globalism
Freedom of speech vs. enforced political correctness
American Western culture vs. dominance by foreign cultures
Right to bear arms vs. limitation or prohibition of private gun ownership and carry
Personal property and wealth vs. transfer of wealth
Capitalism vs. socialism
Rule of law vs. corruption and rule by force, coercion, mob rule, authoritarianism
Democracy vs. oligarchy
Constitutionalism vs. judicial activism
Federalism vs. centralized government
Socially determined morals vs. facilitated moral decline
Freedom of religion vs. religious persecution, dominance by religious sects
Personal safety vs. increased personal vulnerability and jeopardy
The Constitution as supreme law of the land vs. rule by international law
Equal opportunity vs. economic equity
Right to life vs. increased acceptance of euthanasia, unrestricted abortion
Traditional values vs. relative values, with each person deciding his own reality
Support of Israel vs. allowing or contributing to Israel's demise or destruction
Respect for police and other public servants vs. increasing denigration and assassinations
All lives matter vs. only some matter
United States as a superpower vs. submission to other powerful nations
Return to national solvency vs. increasing massive national debt

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/08/context_and_the_2016_presidential_election.html#ixzz4IRidB88s (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/08/context_and_the_2016_presidential_election.html#ixzz4IRidB88s)
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

...is both largely correct...and depressingly irritating realizing how much ground Liberty has yielded already on every point...

Line meet sand?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 26, 2016, 11:50:13 AM


With annotation:

    Hillary Clinton Remarks as Prepared for Delivery – Reno, Nevada

    Thank you, Reno! It’s great to be back in Nevada…

    My original plan for this visit was to focus on our agenda to help small businesses and entrepreneurs.

    This week we proposed new steps to cut red tape and taxes, and make it easier for small businesses to get the credit they need to grow and hire.


After imposing Tons of red tape with Just Obamacare...

    Because I believe that in America, if you can dream it, you should be able to build it.

And then, after you have built it, I will claim you didn't, and that you owe us for helping you.


    We’ll be talking a lot more about our economic plans in the days and weeks ahead.

    But today, I want to address something I hear from Americans all over our country.

    Everywhere I go, people tell me how concerned they are by the divisive rhetoric coming from my opponent in this election.


I will now proceed to call anyone who disagrees with me a radical, ignorant,   racist, sexist, nazi, homophobic,evil menance to society.
 

    It’s like nothing we’ve heard before from a nominee for President of the United States.

    From the start, Donald Trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia.

    He’s taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over one of America’s two major political parties.


Because there is  nothing " Radical" about what the Dems have done for the  last 8 years. Nothing at all.
I meants not radical to rig your own primary, sell State Dept Favors for donations,  to expose Classified information on protected servers, to force people to buy a product or refusing to enforce laws we disagree with and making up new ones - without legislative participation that deny men due process if accused of rape,  force people to use particular pronouns with people wishing to define their own reality, and  in general denying that "sex" in title IX  refers to biological gender and instead is indicative how one feels that day. Nope NOTHING radical about forcing girls to share tier locker rooms with boys - or even men wo claim to feel like little girls ( that day )

     

    His disregard for the values that make our country great is profoundly dangerous.


Like your disregard for the constitution, individual freedom, the truth and the rule of law?

    In just the past week, under the guise of “outreach” to African Americans, Trump has stood up in front of largely white audiences and described black communities in insulting and ignorant terms:

    “Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing. No homes. No ownership.

        Crime at levels nobody has seen… Right now, you walk down the street, you get shot.”

    Those are his words.


Of course FBI crime statistics say the same thing.  I guess those people at the FBI  are ignorant too.

 

    Donald Trump misses so much.

    He doesn’t see the success of black leaders in every field…

    The vibrancy of black-owned businesses…Or the strength of the black church… He doesn’t see the excellence of historically black colleges and universities or the pride of black parents watching their children thrive…And he certainly doesn’t have any solutions to take on the reality of systemic racism and create more equity and opportunity in communities of color.

    It takes a lot of nerve to ask people he’s ignored and mistreated for decades, “What do you have to lose?” The answer is everything!

And Her proof he "doesn't see these things" is what? Oh  just a straw man assertion with no basis in fact. Because she is a lying bully.  Yep.
And Trump is proposing that we treat everyone the same, according to the same rules. The systemic racism is what Democrats have imposed with Welfare, abortion on demand, minimum wage laws the prevent the lowest skilled from find jobs and million there things they do to keep the black man down - including convincing them that they are kept down. We have a Black President.And a crappy traitorous one at that. ow come he wasn't kept down by this systematic racism?  Oh right. Racism will be the word Democrats always use because tey can't ever win in a world where it isn't a facotr. HEnce they call peole who want immigration laws - passed by congress - to be followed as racist.

    Trump’s lack of knowledge or experience or solutions would be bad enough.


After all - he has NO IDEA how to set up a charitable foundation and use it for graft and corruption. He has no experience with that . I do!

    But what he’s doing here is more sinister.

    Trump is reinforcing harmful stereotypes and offering a dog whistle to his most hateful supporters.


Because if I say its true, its true. And never you mind I am using the Liberal stereotype of a Right winger. Its okay when I do it.  Believe me. I would never lie.
 

    It’s a disturbing preview of what kind of President he’d be.

    This is what I want to make clear today:

        A man with a long history of racial discrimination, who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far reaches of the internet, should never run our government or command our military.

    If he doesn’t respect all Americans, how can he serve all Americans?


Now you Christian, men   and gun owners give up your rights of conscience, your right to own a gun, your right to due process, your right to associate and do business with others on your own terms,  - because I respect you and your rights.

 

        Now, I know some people still want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

    They hope that he will eventually reinvent himself – that there’s a kinder, gentler, more responsible Donald Trump waiting in the wings somewhere.

    After all, it’s hard to believe anyone – let alone a nominee for President of the United States – could really believe all the things he says.


No harder than to believe the Democrats would ignore your crimes,  graft, corruption and lies, theft of a primary and other immoral acts and allow you to be their nominee.
 

    But the hard truth is, there’s no other Donald Trump. This is it.

    Maya Angelou once said: “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”


And you have show the nation you are a lying, corrupt, hypocritical socialist c***. And I totally believe that is true.

 

    Well, throughout his career and this campaign, Donald Trump has shown us exactly who he is. We should believe him.

    When Trump was getting his start in business, he was sued by the Justice Department for refusing to rent apartments to black and Latino tenants.

    Their applications would be marked with a “C” – “C” for “colored” – and then rejected.

    Three years later, the Justice Department took Trump back to court because he hadn’t changed.

    The pattern continued through the decades.


As I said, you have no right to decide who you will do business with. The government should take that freedom from you for the public good.

 

    State regulators fined one of Trump’s casinos for repeatedly removing black dealers from the floor. No wonder the turn-over rate for his minority employees was way above average.

    And let’s not forget Trump first gained political prominence leading the charge for the so-called “Birthers.”

    He promoted the racist lie that President Obama isn’t really an American citizen – part of a sustained effort to delegitimize America’s first black President.


You mean the one who issued the obviously forged birth certificate, sealed all of his records, uses a Social Security Number form a State he never lived in , and claimed he was Kenyan on articles he wrote in college?
That Black President?
 

    In 2015, Trump launched his own campaign for President with another racist lie. He described Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals.

    And he accused the Mexican government of actively sending them across the border. None of that is true.

Actually, Yes , before building a wall, the Mexican Government was helping immigrants get from  from  their southern border to their northern border.
And Yes some of them - after becoming criminals for crossing our border illegally,  committed other crimes like rape and murder.
And 100%  of the people who cross the border illegally ARE criminals because they broke the law. Why are Democrats unable to understand that very, very simple concept?

 

    Oh, and by the way, Mexico’s not paying for his wall either.

    If it ever gets built, you can be sure that American taxpayers will be stuck with the bill.


Like Obama has stuck your kids with 10 Trillion in debt and an even more broken health care system, both of which I plan to make worse.
 

    Since then, there’s been a steady stream of bigotry.

    We all remember when Trump said a distinguished federal judge born in Indiana couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, “He’s a Mexican.”

    Think about that.

I thought about it , and it seems to me if te  judge has a personal interest, and is willing to let that interest interfere with his judgement in a case,  because he puts being a Mexican above doing his job honestly,  then that judge shouldn't be trusted.

 

    The man who today is the standard bearer of the Republican Party said a federal judge was incapable of doing his job solely because of his heritage.


No he said was was incapable of doing is job because he was a  Activist Hack pretending to be a judge.

    Even the Republican Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, described that as “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”

    To this day, he’s never apologized to Judge Curiel.

    But for Trump, that’s just par for the course.

    This is someone who retweets white supremacists online, like the user who goes by the name “white-genocide-TM.” Trump took this fringe bigot with a few dozen followers and spread his message to 11 million people.

    His campaign famously posted an anti-Semitic image – a Star of David imposed over a sea of dollar bills – that first appeared on a white supremacist website.

    The Trump campaign also selected a prominent white nationalist leader as a delegate in California. They only dropped him under pressure.

    When asked in a nationally televised interview whether he would disavow the support of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, Trump wouldn’t do it. Only later, again under mounting pressure, did he backtrack.

    And when Trump was asked about anti-Semitic slurs and death threats coming from his supporters, he refused to condemn them.


Me? I worked with Obama to ensure Iran had Nuclear weapons so it could destroy Israel, helped create the ISIS caliphate and kill tens of  thousands of Christians and overrun Europe with Islamic hate and rape, and helped planned parenthood execute about 1/3 of all black babies conceived last year. .

.
 

    Through it all, he has continued pushing discredited conspiracy theories with racist undertones.

    Trump said thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks. They didn’t.


Only 999 did.
 

    He suggested that Ted Cruz’s father was involved in the Kennedy assassination. Perhaps in Trump’s mind, because he was a Cuban immigrant, he must have had something to do with it. Of course there’s absolutely no evidence of that.

    Just recently, Trump claimed President Obama founded ISIS. And then he repeated that nonsense over and over.


I mean all we did was run guns to ISIS, order our military to not interfere with ISIS and in some case to help them, and  in general oppose any action tat would prevent them from gaining domination.
That isn't Founding ISIS, because  we didn't come up with the name.
 

    His latest paranoid fever dream is about my health. All I can say is, Donald, dream on.

    This is what happens when you treat the National Enquirer like Gospel.

    It’s what happens when you listen to the radio host Alex Jones, who claims that 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs. He said the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre were child actors and no one was actually killed there.

    Trump didn’t challenge those lies. He went on Jones’ show and said: “Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down.”


Not that I have seen Alex Jones or know what he said. But I will just lie and make stuff up because my followers don't care if I lie to them.
 

    This man wants to be President of the United States.

    I’ve stood by President Obama’s side as he made the toughest decisions a Commander-in-Chief ever has to make.


Like deciding to use the IRS to persecute Conservative organizations,  or letting those men in Benghazi die  and blaming it on a you tube video,  or  running guns to ISIS, or deciding how much illegal ransoms to pay to Iran.

    In times of crisis, our country depends on steady leadership… clear thinking… and calm judgment… because one wrong move can mean the difference between life and death.

    The last thing we need in the Situation Room is a loose cannon who can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction, and who buys so easily into racially-tinged rumors.

    Someone detached from reality should never be in charge of making decisions that are as real as they come.


And obviously YOU tube videos can be so influential and cause embassy attacks.
And if you think you are a woman and have a penis,  the reality is that you are a woman and should be treated that way. Reality is important.
 

        It’s another reason why Donald Trump is simply temperamentally unfit to be President of the United States.
Where as I  - a pathological lying power hungry amoral demon, am perfect for the job.

    Now, some people will say that his bluster and bigotry is just over-heated campaign rhetoric – an outrageous person saying outrageous things for attention.

    But look at the policies Trump has proposed. They would put prejudice into practice.

    And don’t be distracted by his latest attempts to muddy the waters.

    He may have some new people putting new words in his mouth… but we know where he stands.

    He would form a deportation force to round up millions of immigrants and kick them out of the country.


I am actually kind of counting on it, because once he does that I can use it to round up conservatives and confiscate guns.
 

    He’d abolish the bedrock constitutional principle that says if you’re born in the United States, you’re an American citizen. He says that children born in America to undocumented parents are, quote, “anchor babies” and should be deported.

    Millions of them.


But then I think millions of people should be forced to use the right pronouns when talking to delusional people under heavy fines. Its really all about which millions are having their lives disrupted.


Besides if you have been in the United States  for 10 minutes because your mother crossed the border illegally, then you should be a citizen. I mean we need more children of criminals in this country.
They seem genetically predisposed to vote Democrat.

 

    And he’d ban Muslims around the world – 1.5 billion men, women, and children –from entering our country just because of their religion.

    Think about that for a minute. How would it actually work? People landing in U.S. airports would line up to get their passports stamped, just like they do now.

    But in Trump’s America, when they step up to the counter, the immigration officer would ask every single person, “What is your religion?”

    And then what?

    What if someone says, “I’m a Christian,” but the agent doesn’t believe them.

    Do they have to prove it? How would they do that?


But the rest of airport security where they ask you similar stupid questions. That is rock solid.  Obey the police state people.
 

    Ever since the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, America has distinguished itself as a haven for people fleeing religious persecution.

And now, I think its high time it becomes a haven for Muslims wishing to spread religious persecution and impose Sharia Law. SO you are NOT allowed to look down on them for that!

    Under Donald Trump, America would distinguish itself as the only country in the world to impose a religious test at the border.

    Come to think of it, there actually may be one place that does that. It’s the so-called Islamic State. The territory ISIS controls. It would be a cruel irony if America followed its lead.


After all , that was MY  idea to let ISIS do that. Trump as not right to act like it was his.
 

    Don’t worry, some will say, as President, Trump will be surrounded by smart advisors who will rein in his worst impulses.

    So when a tweet gets under his skin and he wants to retaliate with a cruise missile, maybe cooler heads will be there to convince him not to.

    Maybe.

    But look at who he’s put in charge of his campaign.

    Trump likes to say he only hires the “best people.” But he’s had to fire so many campaign managers it’s like an episode of the Apprentice.

    The latest shake-up was designed to – quote – “Let Trump be Trump.” To do that, he hired Stephen Bannon, the head of a right-wing website called Breitbart.com, as campaign CEO.

    To give you a flavor of his work, here are a few headlines they’ve published:

    “Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy.”

    “Would You Rather Your Child Had Feminism or Cancer?”

    “Gabby Giffords: The Gun Control Movement’s Human Shield”

    “Hoist It High And Proud: The Confederate Flag Proclaims A Glorious Heritage.”


All Headlines I disagree with and whose premise I can't actually argue factually against. So I will pretend they are outrageous so I don't need to respond.  By the way Trump is Hitler, his followers are KKK members and... its a spoiler... but Putin controls Breitbart and the alt right! But that isn't outrageous to say  at all. Also people with a  Penis can be girls.

    That one came shortly after the Charleston massacre, when Democrats and Republicans alike were doing everything they could to heal racial divides. Breitbart tried to enflame them further.


Yeah , Obama partnering with Black Lives Matter ,  and constantly inflaming race relations in the United States and supporting the racist idea of White Privilege - that being white makes you racist - isn't divisive at all.
 

    Just imagine – Donald Trump reading that and thinking: “this is what I need more of in my campaign.”

    Bannon has nasty things to say about pretty much everyone.

    This spring, he railed against Paul Ryan for, quote “rubbing his social-justice Catholicism in my nose every second.”

    No wonder he’s gone to work for Trump – the only Presidential candidate ever to get into a public feud with the Pope.

    According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, Breitbart embraces “ideas on the extremist fringe of the conservative right. Racist ideas.


Of course the Southern Poverty Law Center brands anyone who disagrees with Democrats on anything a hate group. So, yeah, that term is meaningless drivel as well.

    Race-baiting ideas. Anti-Muslim and anti-Immigrant ideas –– all key tenets making up an emerging racist ideology known as the ‘Alt-Right.’”

    Alt-Right is short for “Alternative Right.”

    The Wall Street Journal describes it as a loosely organized movement, mostly online, that “rejects mainstream conservatism, promotes nationalism and views immigration and multiculturalism as threats to white identity.”


Or at least that is how I will define it because my only argument is to slander my opponents.
 

    The de facto merger between Breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for the “Alt-Right.” A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party.

    This is part of a broader story -- the rising tide of hardline, right-wing nationalism around the world.

    Just yesterday, one of Britain’s most prominent right-wing leaders, Nigel Farage, who stoked anti-immigrant sentiments to win the referendum on leaving the European Union, campaigned with Donald Trump in Mississippi.

    Farage has called for a ban on the children of legal immigrants from public schools and health services, has said women are quote “worth less” than men, and supports scrapping laws that prevent employers from discriminating based on race -- that’s who Trump wants by his side.

 
Yes that evil man who encouraged Britain to regain her sovereignty and prevent her culture from being overun and destroyed. HOW DARE people thwart the will of the globalist cabal I am part of and declare they have a right of self-determination! I mean the NERVE !

 

    The godfather of this global brand of extreme nationalism is Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    In fact, Farage has appeared regularly on Russian propaganda programs.

    Now he’s standing on the same stage as the Republican nominee.

    Trump himself heaps praise on Putin and embrace pro-Russian policies.

    He talks casually of abandoning our NATO allies, recognizing Russia’s annexation of Crimea, and of giving the Kremlin a free hand in Eastern Europe more generally.

    American presidents from Truman to Reagan have rejected the kind of approach Trump is taking on Russia.

    We should, too.


Because those places should be overrun with Muslims and their cultures  exterminated for the common good. I mean, I only sold the Russians Uranium mines in a play to play deal at the State department. Once Trump actually tried to build a building  in RUSSIA itself! His Russian ties are extreme and dangerous.  Way  more dangerous than Putin blackmailing me with te unsecruted information he took form my illegal emailserver in my bathroom. ( It was secure. No one could get into that room!)

     

    All of this adds up to something we’ve never seen before.

    Of course there’s always been a paranoid fringe in our politics, steeped in racial resentment. But it’s never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it, and giving it a national megaphone. Until now.


Cough cough. Sorry. Until now - its always been a Democrat!

    On David Duke’s radio show the other day, the mood was jubilant.

    “We appear to have taken over the Republican Party,” one white supremacist said.

    Duke laughed. There’s still more work to do, he said.

    No one should have any illusions about what’s really going on here. The names may have changed… Racists now call themselves “racialists.” White supremacists now call themselves “white nationalists.” The paranoid fringe now calls itself “alt-right.” But the hate burns just as bright.


I really, really hate them , and we will stamp out their right to speak or vote, or to organize, or to own guns... and I will make them bake cakes for gays!
 

    And now Trump is trying to rebrand himself as well. Don’t be fooled.

    There’s an old Mexican proverb that says “Tell me with whom you walk, and I will tell you who you are.”


I mean, I walked with my rapist husband Bill, And Saul Alinski,  and communists and socialist tyrants, and Islamic ISIS leaders, And Black Lives Matter leaders,  and and people around me keep dying mysteriously.
 

    We know who Trump is. A few words on a teleprompter won’t change that.

    He says he wants to “make America great again,” but his real message remains “Make America hate again.”

    This isn’t just about one election. It’s about who we are as a nation.

And I should be able to decide that and impose it on you  without hindrances like the Constitution and individual rights. No self determination for ytour country. No Way.
 

    It’s about the kind of example we want to set for our children and grandchildren.

Like when I married a powerful man and then used his influence and power to try and get the same job he had.

 

    Next time you watch Donald Trump rant on television, think about all the kids listening across our country. They hear a lot more than we think.

    Parents and teachers are already worried about what they’re calling the “Trump Effect.”

    Bullying and harassment are on the rise in our schools, especially targeting students of color, Muslims, and immigrants.


Which is why Leftists are out beating up Trump supporters, interrupting politcal meetings and in general trying to make sure no one has the right to speak if they don't apporve of the speech. And don't wear an American Flag shirt into an American school. Its racist and bullying towards those students who came here illegally and aren't really Americans even though I demand they be treated like citizens.
 

    At a recent high school basketball game in Indiana, white students held up Trump signs and taunted Latino players on the opposing team with chants of “Build the wall!” and “Speak English.”

    After a similar incident in Iowa, one frustrated school principal said, “They see it in a presidential campaign and now it's OK for everyone to say this.”

    We wouldn’t tolerate that kind of behavior in our own homes. How can we stand for it from a candidate for president?


No sit down and shut up you racist, ignorant, white, christian male for suggesting all lives matter. I really have no idea where kids are getting the idea that name calling is acceptable.

 

    This is a moment of reckoning for every Republican dismayed that the Party of Lincoln has become the Party of Trump. It’s a moment of reckoning for all of us who love our country and believe that America is better than this.

    Twenty years ago, when Bob Dole accepted the Republican nomination, he pointed to the exits and told any racists in the Party to get out.

    The week after 9/11, George W. Bush went to a mosque and declared for everyone to hear that Muslims “love America just as much as I do.”

    In 2008, John McCain told his own supporters they were wrong about the man he was trying to defeat. Senator McCain made sure they knew – Barack Obama is an American citizen and “a decent person.”

    We need that kind of leadership again.


But sadly, We destroyed the Republic, the rule of law, faith in our elections and  individual rights,  and  America is no more, and our choices for President are a Loud Mouth Blowhard and a Unapologetic corrupt lying elitist democrat who hates everything America used to be.
 

    Every day, more Americans are standing up and saying “enough is enough” – including a lot of Republicans. I’m honored to have their support.

    And I promise you this: with your help, I will be a President for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. For those who vote for me and those who don't.

    For all Americans.

Because the president gets to tell you what to do no matter who you are - now obey you peons and pray I don't alter the deal any further!


    Because I believe we are stronger together.


And if you don't support us, we will use the IRS as a weapon against you or just  kill you when we confiscate your gun.
 

    It’s a vision for the future rooted in our values and reflected in a rising generation of young people who are the most open, diverse, and connected we’ve ever seen.

And by Diversity I mean skin color - not diversity of thought or opinion. That can't be allowed. Our Youth indoctrination programs have never been more successful as they are today!

    Just look at our fabulous Olympic team.

    Like Ibtihaj Muhammad, an African-American Muslim from New Jersey who won the bronze medal in fencing with grace and skill. Would she even have a place in Donald Trump’s America?

    When I was growing up, Simone Manuel wouldn’t have been allowed to swim in the same public pool as Katie Ledecky. Now they’re winning Olympic medals as teammates.


Just so long as the Whites are handicapped and the Blacks win. That is what is really important now.


    So let’s keep moving forward together.


Into  the glorious new Socialist Totalitarians Globalist Utopia - by force if necessary.
 

    Let’s stand up against prejudice and paranoia.

    Let’s prove once again, that America is great because is America is good.


And force everyone to say they values what we value and support what we support under pain of death! We are the supreme race who is entitled to lead and determine what is Good! We will not be like Britian and reject the enlightened wisdom of our natural masters!
 

    Thank you, and may God bless the United States.

* God is not endorsed or recognized by the Democratic Party
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2016, 11:55:51 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/2nd%20Amendment/gun%20grabbing%20nazis%20like%20hillary_zpsdls98vuy.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 26, 2016, 01:32:14 PM
This bitch is ripe for an ass-kicking in the debates.  There's 30 years worth of outrageous sh*t that she has never been truly called out on, not by her nominal opponents in the GOP, and certainly not by the stenographers in the media.

I can feel that something has changed in the cultural winds.  Even if she manages to steal this election, something important has already happened.  I think the building blocks for a preference cascade are in place.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on August 26, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
Alt-Right is short for “Alternative Right.” (https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/08/26/6-chilling-facts-about-the-alt-right/?singlepage=true)

Quote
The Wall Street Journal describes it as a loosely organized movement, mostly online, that “rejects mainstream conservatism, promotes nationalism and views immigration and multiculturalism as threats to white identity.”

The de facto merger between Breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for the “Alt-Right.” A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party.

Horrible, I tells ya.  Black Lives Matter but no white identity for you.

As for Breitbart et al., good ole Hitlery was quoted as determined to put an end to Breitbart, specifically, and sites like it, if/when elected.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 26, 2016, 04:40:29 PM

I can feel that something has changed in the cultural winds.  Even if she manages to steal this election, something important has already happened.  I think the building blocks for a preference cascade are in place.


I think there have been 3 major sea changes in the last couple of months that have put Hillary and the Globalist Elite on edge.

1) Brexit
2) The Alt-medias ability to set the narrative ( Hillary's Health)
3) The realization  there is no reciprocation of Civility.  Peak PC  has been reached. .  People just no longer care if they are called racist, conspiracy theorists, haters, etc. They know, for instance that someone with a penis is a "boy", and aren't going to say 2+2=5 because they will be called homophobic.  And once in for a penny, people  are in for a pound because there is so much  other stupid crap people  have been biting their tongues about in order to get along, and they now realize that the left will take a mile each and every time they are given an inch.


After successfully leading a populist charge in England against them,  Farage coming here, and working with Trump was too much for them,   because  Alternate Media can now able to force a narrative onto the old school media.

 "questions on Hillary's health " we  so much into the lime light that they had to try to push a John Stewart joke in and  ask her to open pickle jars (  and not bothering to make sure anyone hears the pop) Kimmel even felt he needed to respond to Alex Jones  - in jest of course, but since The Daily Show, the left has liked hiding behind clowns  when pushing their narrative. But yes,  Alex Jones spent something like 7 minutes talking about Pickle Jars and Kimmel felt the need to spend as much time responding. Not one or two throw away jokes but an entire segment ending with dead pickles.  You don't feed the trolls unless you feel  the trolls might actuality be winning some mindshare. .

Their control is based on being able to lie to most of the people most of the time, and alternate media is making that nearly impossible - which is why they are OPENLY asking Google to censor search terms and declaring that a site like Breitbart "has no right to exist"  - largely because the dominant liberal narrative is constantly being shown to be false and now enough people are listening to the other narrative they feel they need to take drastic and desperate  measures and actually respond and smear them.. If a cascade builds  its over for them, and they know its building... because thy can't take down a blowhard like Trump in public opinion.. because now the public has come to the realization that  its only a matter of time before they are "Trump" - before they will be targeted and destroyed for holding a contrary opinion,  like that girls have lady parts. They have seen it happen. So yes, they don't care what Trump says because what they are fighting for is the right to say "outrageous" things  like Sharia Law is bad,  or Homosexuality is a sin, or "all lives matter"  or  "everyone deserve due process" without having your website taken down, your business destroyed, or being thrown in jail because your you tube vidoe is blamed for an attack on a US embassy.  Trump's support lies in the fact that "we may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" crowd is pissed off and knows they are next.

along similar lines :


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/hillary-clinton-enters-media-wars (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/hillary-clinton-enters-media-wars)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on August 26, 2016, 04:51:30 PM
Hillary reading Milo Yiannopoulos headlines from the stage is a keeper.   ::hysterical::

Don't tell Bill's clinging little woman about his Ghostbusters review, and it's "women left on the shelf" comment.   ::bustamove::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2016, 07:44:20 AM
"Peak PC", I like that term.

And yeah...nobody is going to Hitlery rallies...and it is simple...most people do not believe a damn thing leaving that succubus mouth...no matter how the old media (MFM) spins it, no matter how much the old media demonizes Trump...the bloom is off this turd blossom.

And in the Brexit theme -

http://english.cctv.com/2016/08/29/VIDEfzPmEDMDWB3ZaID5zEHP160829.shtml (http://english.cctv.com/2016/08/29/VIDEfzPmEDMDWB3ZaID5zEHP160829.shtml)

Anti-globalism is an extension of anti-crony-capitalist sentiment...many people are not ignorant sheep, they know a filthy cabal when they see one, and more are getting tired of business as usual.  The talking heads like to call this a "change election", but that word change does not mean what they think it means, not any more...thinking they can bamboozle the people into buying progressive ChangeTM any more...the kind of change that is happening and will happen is of the real variety.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on August 30, 2016, 04:30:22 PM
I find it interesting, and amusingly ironic, that one of the most genuine expressions of globalism is the global movement to restore national sovereignty.  Look at Europe, you have people from many different countries working together to dismantle the Brussels superstate and restore sovereignty to their respective countries.  The most prominent and successful of them is of course Nigel Farage, who underscored just how global this phenomenon is by coming to the USA to appear at a rally with Trump -- and clearly it alarmed TPTB enough for her to call out Farage by name in her Alt-Right speech.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2016, 07:45:19 AM
Yeah, they didn't notice/care that people got to peek behind the statist curtain and find a worldwide cast of conspirators behind it...

It literally speaks to how little they think of the average citizen...and in many respects their conditioning down humanity has created of number of brain-dead ilk...too many to prevent societal implosion...which is about the only thing the leadership cabal fears...hence the drive to restrict with a means to end private firearm ownership...they know they have less to fear from their dependent rabble than from those they call bitter clingers.

Man, they have no idea how bitter it's gonna be for them...poor dumb bastards.   ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
Call the plunge protection team!  No, not the Neo-Keynesian one, the Progtard one!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch)

When mainstream polls have a hard time handling the angst you know a libtard is going to panic...

Good thing their rescue plan is in place, eh?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-lauer-will-moderate-the-first-forum-between-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-lauer-will-moderate-the-first-forum-between-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton/)

Trump better come ready to battle in all directions at once...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 05, 2016, 02:05:08 PM
Breaking: Hellery breaks her silence - Holds press conference (all 89 seconds of it):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/05/clinton_takes_questions_from_press_how_was_your_labor_day_weekend_are_you_ready.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/05/clinton_takes_questions_from_press_how_was_your_labor_day_weekend_are_you_ready.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 05, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
Oh fer...

89 seconds is not a press conference...yammering NOTHING for 89 seconds is even less!  This is 89 seconds of on-your-knees presstitute full-moon ass-kissing!!!

 ::hysterical::

It takes a village of idiots...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2016, 12:08:08 PM
Y'all see this?

Half-breed Muzzie loser running UN's Human Rights (in Non-Muslim nations only) Commission says Trump is like Geert Wilders and is among “populists and demagogues” whose tactics of communication smack of ISIS-style propaganda.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/293517-u-n-human-rights-chief-compares-trumps-language-to-isis-propaganda/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/293517-u-n-human-rights-chief-compares-trumps-language-to-isis-propaganda/)

I think Trump might have bounced up another 5%, thanks, fool!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on September 06, 2016, 12:25:07 PM
These moral-preening, self-righteous a-holes.  FOAD, dude.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2016, 12:28:24 PM
Ironic how he sees no evil in Muslim lands...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
One of the most unsurprising headlines of the era...

Communist Party Endorses Hillary

http://iotwreport.com/communist-party-endorses-hillary/ (http://iotwreport.com/communist-party-endorses-hillary/)

Really...it took them that long to figure it out?   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Ironic how he sees no evil in Muslim lands...

Jeez, no more stark evil irony than this!

(Cross-posted in ISIS thread)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/293712-isis-sending-parents-videos-of-their-daughters-being-raped-tortured-and-killed-along-with-body-parts-placed-in-bags/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/293712-isis-sending-parents-videos-of-their-daughters-being-raped-tortured-and-killed-along-with-body-parts-placed-in-bags/)

Nothing to see here, eh Mr. Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein UNHRC Chairbastard?!

BTW, the link between Islaminals and Progs is no accident...as one WZ poster noted -

(http://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkafircrusaders.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F06%2Fabiacbia.jpg&key=K9iap4W9Ua5z5-usr8sK8g&w=600&h=400)

Pretty soon the Allmighty is going to have an awful lot of sorting on his hands...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2016, 07:54:29 AM
I see this as good news...despite the Prog-Media attempt to characterize everything Trump as bad...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-trump-square-off-national-security-issues-205335260--election.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-trump-square-off-national-security-issues-205335260--election.html)

These idiots are all Obama ass-kissing puppets going along with every purge and flush and promulgating batshyt crazy Prog social-engineering BS and IMO none of them deserve to keep their jobs if Trump takes command.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 09, 2016, 12:27:05 PM
Another reason why anybody professing to give a damn about Liberty should give asshats this monumental one iota of support...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/294179-facebook-co-founder-donates-20-million-to-help-dems-defeat-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/294179-facebook-co-founder-donates-20-million-to-help-dems-defeat-trump/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
In light of the earlier episodes of bobblehead Hillary (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14502.0) and the most recent episode (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14555.0)...this move by Trump to keep the pressure on Hillary by asking for unmoderated debates (http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/trump-wants-to-debate-clinton-without-a-moderator/) is a political masterstroke.

It must be hard not throwing in a "...if she's up to it", eh?   ::pokeineye::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 12, 2016, 08:54:10 AM
In light of the earlier episodes of bobblehead Hillary (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14502.0) and the most recent episode (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14555.0)...this move by Trump to keep the pressure on Hillary by asking for unmoderated debates (http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/trump-wants-to-debate-clinton-without-a-moderator/) is a political masterstroke.

It must be hard not throwing in a "...if she's up to it", eh?   ::pokeineye::

And no  radio gear, or people in the audience holding up signs for her either.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 13, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Kinda funny in a way...

NY Slimes Editor says he would publish information from Trump's tax returns even if it meant jail time.  (http://www.weaselzippers.us/294797-ny-times-editor-says-hed-publish-trumps-tax-returns-even-if-it-meant-jail-time/)

...why would a propagandist for progressives fear any jail time when their current candidate has lied under oath repeatedly and to the American people on hundreds of occasions, is a walking national security disaster, gets people killed and hides her health condition?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 14, 2016, 07:10:00 AM
What a joke!

DemoProg AG in NY launches witch hunt into Trump Foundation (http://www.weaselzippers.us/294994-ny-ag-opens-investigation-into-trump-foundation/)...and I bet these idiot progs think this is some sort of tat?  It's the tit with the skanky sour milk, jackoffs!  Tat ain't nothing!

 ::mooning::

A neighboring Pubbie should launch an investigation into the corrupt cronyism of the NY AG...who I bet if you dig deep enough has links to Clinton!

And hey, how about looking into actual political criminal activity somebody?!

The voicemail on Morshida Islam’s phone several days ago sounded like it might be a political fundraiser at first, with a friendly voice introducing himself as a supporter of presidential candidate Donald Trump.

“Hello Morshida, this is John C. Giles calling on behalf of the Donald Trump association,” a man said.

But within seconds, the message turned ugly and profane.

“I was just calling to see if I can get your support.  And so we can get all the foreigners out of the country and f*** ’em.”

http://iotwreport.com/i-would-bet-my-last-dollar-these-were-people-from-the-clinton-campaign/ (http://iotwreport.com/i-would-bet-my-last-dollar-these-were-people-from-the-clinton-campaign/)

Team Clinton/Team DNC, what difference does it make?  Both are criminal rackets, you just know they are behind this BS...progs never find evidence to make up their wild accusations, but the manufacture it like it sh*t out of a pig!


So sick of these stinking animals...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2016, 11:51:27 AM
Powell - “I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect,” the former secretary of state wrote Democratic donor Jeffrey Leeds on July 26, 2014.

“A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still d–kng bimbos at home (according to the NYP),” reads the explosive e-mail obtained by the Web site DCLeaks.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/14/colin-powell-wont-vote-for-her-because-of-bill-clinton/ (http://nypost.com/2016/09/14/colin-powell-wont-vote-for-her-because-of-bill-clinton/)

Well...yeah.  This is who they are and always have been, dumbass!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
Another reason why potted-plant "Town Hall" debates are stupid...

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/296054-facebook-will-help-source-questions-for-presidential-debate (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/296054-facebook-will-help-source-questions-for-presidential-debate)

...great...granny-panties or depends questions...

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2016, 11:50:56 AM
Heh...Team Depends getting desperate!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/295402-release-the-chakra-hillary-campaign-in-talks-to-bring-al-gore-to-campaign-trail/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/295402-release-the-chakra-hillary-campaign-in-talks-to-bring-al-gore-to-campaign-trail/)

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4261/2205/original.jpg)

(https://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/al-gore-vs-the-facts.jpg)

Oh yeah...Hillary is A-OK...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51674e66cf51a385d2e4c9ffa4cbae36c97f35e6612ee4bf41e505e70fba1df7.jpg)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 16, 2016, 11:59:34 AM
The guy who lost to W. in 2000, some would argue because a bunch of geriatric New York transplants to Florida couldn't figure out the whole "punch in this box if you are voting for the person whose name is printed beside it" concept of a ballot.

The guy who famously huffed and sighed audibly during the debates, to the point that even SNL had to parody it.

The guy who wanted some treehugging hippie-mama to manually release his chakra.

The guy who has multiple mansions with heating and full illumination, but wants you to conserve electricity.

Yeah, Dems, go for it.  Please do.  Please bring out this wooden campaign prop.


(http://i.imgur.com/XQskjpx.png)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2016, 07:14:17 AM
Hillary poll numbers are dropping faster than Bill's pants...even the MFM is concerned over her inability to attract the idiot Millennial's (who as I noted earlier are flocking to that idiot Gary Johnson) and now there is concern over her softening Hispanic numbers...which is hilarious.

What to do?  Well, sh*t...release your doctors glowing report from 2015 and then get the Old Gray Hag to say that is better than the dreck released by Trump...then go on the libiot tv shows in a pathetic and obvious attempt to "reconnect" with idiots who either like Bernie or Gary...but who no doubt enjoy Trump-basing as much as any libiot...

And, then there is always Hollywood and those over-paid under-educated inbred douchebags calling Trump Hitler...

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/donald-trump-emmys-2016-jill-soloway-hitler-1201864419/ (http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/donald-trump-emmys-2016-jill-soloway-hitler-1201864419/)

(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/jill-soloway2-e1474251937873.jpg)

Gross, wtf is that creature anyway?

Whatever...the more these morons go apesh*t the more convinced I am they are merely struggling in the tar pit.   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2016, 07:38:01 AM
And in other stupid news...

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VnxhtGJ.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/this-is-not-a-well-hillary-should-be-visiting/ (http://iotwreport.com/this-is-not-a-well-hillary-should-be-visiting/)

Wow.  Talk about missing the big old elephant in the living room!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2016, 12:25:39 PM
John McNesby, the President of the Philadelphia FOP, discussed their endorsement of Donald Trump for President over Hillary Clinton and criticized the Democratic nominee for not engaging with them in their selection process.

McNesby, who was a member of a three person committee who made the recommendation to the national organization on their choice, told Dom Giordano on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT that the Clinton campaign showed no interest in winning their support.

“They didn’t care. Their attitude, then, back in July, during the DNC, was they were going to win this thing anyway, so who cares? Now, I think the tides have turned a little bit and she’s on her heels. As many times as we’ve tried to…have it a fair process and an open process, the emails back were that they’re not interested and no thanks. Just snide things like that.”

He stated his local chapter will heed the recommendation for Trump, who he met with personally in New York.

“We’re falling in line with the national FOP and, basically, she just disregarded and blew the police off. You can’t go in and expect to get respect when you didn’t give it to us. We gave a very fair process, we thought. We put out a questionnaire and she absolutely refused…outright refused, with a nasty campaign rebuttal to why she wouldn’t. Simple as that, we went in and we participated with the candidate that cooperated. He filled it out. We met with him.”

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/philly-fop-chief-on-presidential-endorsment-clinton-blew-the-police-off/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/philly-fop-chief-on-presidential-endorsment-clinton-blew-the-police-off/)

Sadly, many rank-and-file will still side with demonrats, leadership will kowtow to proglodyte dogma and continue taking orders from fools...you would think a large majority would wake up...Obama doesn't care if BLM terrorists kill more cops, Hollywood doesn't care if BLM terrorists kill more cops, no prog including Clinton gives a rats ass if BLM terrorists kill more cops...to them the BLM are a more valuable constituency than cops.

But many will remain stupid.

But hey, at least Trump showed up.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 19, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VnxhtGJ.jpg)



News bulletin, Hilldawg: all men do that.  Instinctively and automatically.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2016, 12:48:42 PM
Apparently, it's not just men .....

(https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F801419%2Fimages%2Fo-CHRISTINA-AGUILERA-HILLARY-CLINTON-facebook.jpg&sp=ee2aa5bc39077b33f99273849bc6b564)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 19, 2016, 01:32:23 PM
Maybe her coughing fits are from throat cancer?  Reference: Michael Douglas
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 20, 2016, 07:04:52 AM
I know I don't want to know where that mystery sore on her tongue came from...TMI!

 ::lalanotlistening::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 20, 2016, 07:47:25 AM
Well, speaking of old hacks...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/exclusive-george-hw-bush-to-vote-for-hillary-228395 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/exclusive-george-hw-bush-to-vote-for-hillary-228395)

Would anybody with a brain be surprised if a Establishment a-hole voted for the biggest Establishment a-hole in the race?

I wouldn't.  I mean if you can stab Reagan in the back and hijack his agenda and send the GOP back into the Dark Ages...you can certainly vote for a cracked-head crippled moonbat Establishment twit.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 20, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
I hate the GOP Establishment with a passion.  Looking back at it historically, you can see that the Reagan era was just a brief reprieve from their control.  They derailed him in 1976, tried their damnedest to do it again in 1980 and only relented when he consented to take Bush Sr. as his running mate.

So fast forward to 1988, Bush promises to be a third term of Reagan knowing that Reagan's popularity would propel him into office.  Once elected, it was All Establishment, All the Time.  The downward spiral of the GOP entered its terminal phase in January 1989.  Everything since then has been "say whatever to get their votes, but then shove them in the back corner" and the fools dare to wonder why they have an insurgency on their hands now?

Have you seen that Hillary commercial where there's a parade of RINOs giving anti-Trump sound bites?  Yeah thanks a lot you pieces of filth.  I hope when Trump takes office he takes a wrecking ball to their gravy train.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on September 20, 2016, 11:35:09 AM
Per Rush Limbaugh, there's no confirmation nor corroboration for what Bush allegedly told Townsend.  Furthermore, what is said at the sort of meeting, where this revelation supposedly took place, has historically been kept private.

I don't know that I believe it and I think it doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 20, 2016, 11:52:23 AM
Per Rush Limbaugh, there's no confirmation nor corroboration for what Bush allegedly told Townsend.  Furthermore, what is said at the sort of meeting, where this revelation supposedly took place, has historically been kept private.

I don't know that I believe it and I think it doesn't matter anyway.

If someone was saying that I had been seen coming out of a whore house I think I would want to correct the record. Playing coy (as HW has done of late) is stupid and IMO reaffirms the insinuation.

Ultimately I agree - Who GAS what he does, says, or feeeeeeeeeeeeeels about anything?

 ::devil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 20, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
Everybody is running with it though...and nobody seems surprised.

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/imgres-3-2.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/george-h-w-bush-lets-the-cat-out-of-the-bag-hes-voting-for-hillary/ (http://iotwreport.com/george-h-w-bush-lets-the-cat-out-of-the-bag-hes-voting-for-hillary/)

 ::puke::

And that c***sucking No Limit loser before all his batshyt crazy friends in the the Unnecessary Nations is using that venue to make his typical ad hom attacks on Trump...

In his final address to the United Nations on Tuesday, it seems President Obama could not give up the chance to offer another dire warning against GOP nominee Donald Trump’s plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.

“Today, a nation ringed by walls would only imprison itself,” Obama said to the UN General Assembly on Tuesday.

It was a subtle, yet obvious reference to Trump’s most controversial campaign proposal. The president appeared to use it to make his larger point that we cannot reject global integration. […]

The integration of a global economy has made life better for billions of people, he continued, noting that the level of poverty worldwide has been drastically cut.

Globalization needs a “course correction,” he said. The kind of aggressive nationalism and crude populism often voice by the “far right” must be suppressed.


http://www.weaselzippers.us/296321-obama-uses-final-u-n-address-to-attack-donald-trumps-border-wall-proposal/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/296321-obama-uses-final-u-n-address-to-attack-donald-trumps-border-wall-proposal/)

Uhh huh...walls are bad...wait, you live behind walls...and armed guards...so does your libiot pals...the moonbat socialist Pope...people in Hollywood that brain-dead morons look up to...and Mexico along its southern border (and with more corruption and atrocities than anywhere in this hemisphere!)...

And thanks for confirming the progressive/crony capitalist globalist agenda and fear of the far/alt right.

The SCoaMF even went on to confirm yet again that Joe the Plumber was right from the get go!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/296316-obama-brags-to-u-n-general-assembly-ive-worked-to-curb-the-excesses-of-capitalism/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/296316-obama-brags-to-u-n-general-assembly-ive-worked-to-curb-the-excesses-of-capitalism/)

Yeah, and we have the permanently lost jobs and horsehsh*t economy and massive national debt to prove it...way to go, comrade!   ::doublebird::

Meanwhile, while Hillary is carried to and fro to small potted-plant events...The Donald is packing arenas!

(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Trump-Crowd-Twitter-640x480.jpg)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/19/photo-donald-trump-draws-massive-crowd-far-more-than-hillary-clinton-in-florida/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/19/photo-donald-trump-draws-massive-crowd-far-more-than-hillary-clinton-in-florida/)

And now that over-medicated seizure-prone pants-soiling moonbat Hillary is going into six day seclusion so doctors have enough time to figure out how to keep her upright, lucid and continent...while the doddering old queen reads the full list of debate questions slipped to her by a sympathetic presstitute (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/19/commission-on-presidential-debates-announces-topics-for-first-debate/)...which probably won't matter anyway...all Trump has to do is show up and have as is only goal to make her sh*t her pants and keel over.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 20, 2016, 02:10:24 PM
And now that over-medicated seizure-prone pants-soiling moonbat Hillary is going into six day seclusion so doctors have enough time to figure out how to keep her upright, lucid and continent...while the doddering old queen reads the full list of debate questions slipped to her by a sympathetic presstitute (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/19/commission-on-presidential-debates-announces-topics-for-first-debate/)...which probably won't matter anyway...all Trump has to do is show up and have as is only goal to make her sh*t her pants and keel over.


I'm pretty sure they take her to this facility between campaign stops:


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Dq7vqpGCM#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 21, 2016, 08:09:27 AM
Heh.  Must be the low-bid parts and second-rate staff then, eh?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 21, 2016, 08:24:02 AM
And check out one-trick-donkey Harry (Hit My Face!) Reid -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/296368-harry-reid-accuses-donald-trump-of-hiding-secrets-in-tax-returns/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/296368-harry-reid-accuses-donald-trump-of-hiding-secrets-in-tax-returns/)

 ::hysterical::

You know you are terminally stupid when you can't think up a new schtick!

 ::laughonfloor::

And many in the libioit camp are already getting the list ready as to why Hillary lost...and yeah it is hilarious because it never once mentions Hillary, her rancid health, her walking national security nightmare habits, her criminal activity, her lying, her batshyt beliefs or the baggage-anchor hubby...and most importantly the fact that people are just plain tired of the Clintons and all their crap!

http://politopinion.com/2016/09/why-illary-lost-the-election/ (http://politopinion.com/2016/09/why-illary-lost-the-election/)

Oh wait, they do mention Bill...well, one out of a sh*tload is still pretty weak...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 21, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
We're gonna open up a can of Deplorable on her ass come November 8th.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2016, 05:55:18 AM
There's another good bumpersticker..."Got Deplorable?"   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2016, 06:29:19 AM
And one would expect to see this headline in The Onion...but no, it is the WaPo...

 ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’

(http://thepeoplescube.com/red/gallery/neotrotsky-a43/hillbugeye-i8564.jpg)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/clinton-asks-why-she-isnt-beating-trump-by-50-points/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/clinton-asks-why-she-isnt-beating-trump-by-50-points/)

 ::laughonfloor::

Yeah...more dirty-money funded full-frontal lying and demonizing of Trump on the airwaves is the ticket...that sh*t has worked miracles so far and Trump has hardly spent a dime yet and is campaigning the old fashioned way and packing arenas to their bursting point!

Go for it!

 ::rolllaughing::

And a "video-conference"...aka-fear of being in public lest people see you keel over and go even more mentally unstable before their eyes!

I think James Woods nails it -

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/778611231930232836 (https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/778611231930232836)

Bunker mentality, yup.

Plus, she needs a lot of time to examine every debate question slipped to her...sure it's 6 days...but how many hours is she fully conscious?

The real question is "Why isn't Trump up by 50 points?"...and the answer is cheating, dirty money, cronies, lying...the media...

(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Trump_Hillary_Caps_Make_America.jpg)

H/T - http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-cap-keep-america-sick-miserable-and-collapsing-t18651.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-cap-keep-america-sick-miserable-and-collapsing-t18651.html)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2016, 06:24:13 PM
 ::speechless::

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/clinton-why-arent-i-50-points-ahead-of-trump/2016/09/21/d9142b3e-8072-11e6-9578-558cc125c7ba_video.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/clinton-why-arent-i-50-points-ahead-of-trump/2016/09/21/d9142b3e-8072-11e6-9578-558cc125c7ba_video.html)

Even more disturbing to watch!  Can you imagine this succubus in the White House?!   ::exitstageleft::

Warning - Don't watch after eating...drinking a lot might make it less painful...ye be warned!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on September 22, 2016, 10:19:10 PM
And people wonder why comedy is relied upon for news. This interview has the hardest questions I've ever seen asked Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2016, 06:49:47 AM
And people wonder why comedy is relied upon for news. This interview has the hardest questions I've ever seen asked Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkPe-9rM1Q)

Yeah, Weisshaupt posted that over here (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=5832.1940) but it is hard to know where entertainment and phony democracy begins or ends now days...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2016, 07:07:56 AM
Jeez, brave move...leaving the Kennedy klan is like leaving the Clinton klan...usually it's feet-first!

http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/ (http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/)

And I saw this play last night a couple times...

https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw (https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw)

...might be more impactfull if they carried the woman out covered in a bloody sheet and her arm falls out from under the sheet as they roll her into the meat wagon and her distraught husband screams to the sky "Damn you, Hillary Clinton!"...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2016, 07:53:44 AM
Heh!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs_vnIkWAAAb54_.jpg)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 23, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
Jeez, brave move...leaving the Kennedy klan is like leaving the Clinton klan...usually it's feet-first!

http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/ (http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/)

And I saw this play last night a couple times...

https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw (https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw)

...might be more impactfull if they carried the woman out covered in a bloody sheet and her arm falls out from under the sheet as they roll her into the meat wagon and her distraught husband screams to the sky "Damn you, Hillary Clinton!"...


I saw that NRA ad the other night on Fox News during their coverage of the riots in Charlotte. It was a particularly effective ad right in the middle of that coverage.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
Jeez, brave move...leaving the Kennedy klan is like leaving the Clinton klan...usually it's feet-first!

http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/ (http://iotwreport.com/kennedy-speechwriter-now-backing-donald-trump/)

And I saw this play last night a couple times...

https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw (https://youtu.be/hPM8e_DauUw)

...might be more impactfull if they carried the woman out covered in a bloody sheet and her arm falls out from under the sheet as they roll her into the meat wagon and her distraught husband screams to the sky "Damn you, Hillary Clinton!"...


I saw that NRA ad the other night on Fox News during their coverage of the riots in Charlotte. It was a particularly effective ad right in the middle of that coverage.

Local demonrats no doubt scrambling to pressure their kin in the media to whack it...

I bet the networks already have their graphics ready for post debate chattering class bullsplatter opinions...put that nefarious "x" over Trump, adolescent crap like that...

And you see this?

If presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton slips into a coughing fit or any other medical crisis during Monday's high-stakes debate, she will have to power through, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!

"There are no commercial breaks," a commission source explains. "Period."

Debate moderator Lester Holt does not have the authority to cut away from the stage during the epic 90-minute showdown. And microphone audio for either of the candidates is not to be manipulated.

Clinton has experienced severe coughing episodes throughout the election year. During a Labor Day campaign stop she suffered a 4-minute choking marathon.

Monday's throwdown could top out at 100 million viewers, making it the biggest political event in history.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The presidential debate commission settled an early flashpoint when Clinton demanded a step-stool at the podium to add height to her 5'4" frame. Campaign Chairman John Podesta expressed concern that Hillary would be dwarfed by 6'2" Trump. The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

Heh, good...not only is she going to look sickly hacking all the time as she tries to spew her lies...she hack hard enough to seize up again, she has something to fall off of!

 ::whoohoo::

And, given the interesting track record...Professor Allan Lichtman predicts a Trump victory (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/)...but none of his criteria specific address rampant criminal activity like voter fraud, naturalizing scores of illegals, giving felons voting rights, one party media control etc...unless all that is covered under "scandal" and "social unrest".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2016, 12:35:04 PM
The desperate cracked-head one unleashes the full fury of the wymenz card!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/297049-hillary-plays-woman-card-in-new-trump-attack-ad/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/297049-hillary-plays-woman-card-in-new-trump-attack-ad/)

Yes, I said "wymenz" card...because Hillary only cares about Prog women and the rest can be exploited...just like Hubby Bill does...you see all good prog wymenz would gladly suffer any abuse by a prog, even a prog man...if it keeps their birth-control devices subsidized and their shedding of unwanted fetal material unhindered and subsidized...so if a non-wymenz like Juanita Broderick says Bill Clinton raped her, well...it's a lie, Juanita is not a genuine wymenz.

Sure hope The Donald has a despicable Bill and Hillary ad to go along with a Daisy ad in the closing weeks!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 23, 2016, 03:14:25 PM

I bet the networks already have their graphics ready for post debate chattering class bullsplatter opinions...put that nefarious "x" over Trump, adolescent crap like that...



Oh yes, I bet they're already circulating drafts among themselves with the narrative and keywords to use in the post-debate circle jerk.  They've probably already figured out how to work the word "gravitas" in as much as possible in describing the Lung Hacker's debate performance.  It's not even satire to say this, we know that they literally collude with each other to get on the same page.  Whenever you hear Rush do those sequences of different talking heads repeating the exact same phrase, it's infuriating.

They use misinformation and disinformation as force multipliers, and they do so deliberately with the intent of aiding the Left.  They have abused the special accommodations made for them by our constitutional republic, and they will have to be held accountable.  They are enemy #1 by a long shot.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on September 24, 2016, 09:16:38 AM
Oh I wish the step stool was approved and not a "custom" made podium. So many more opportunities on a step stool. Hopefully, the cameras will be rolling to see her climb that 10 inch step and with no breaks, how long before her eyes begin to shutter, a little vertigo, of course coughing and hacking, wobbling, disorientation,,,,,,, the fall.....One can wish.

I'm will need to record the debate. I'll be at work and I don't think I can stand it on there.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 24, 2016, 09:58:05 AM
One thing for sure - she won't need propping up, what with that stick up her azz.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on September 24, 2016, 10:53:36 AM
Avengers...Assemble.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIRE40X-Q7k#)

(Yeah...not much of a choice...but it's still a choice)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
Yeah. 

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2805842.1474834619!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/podium26n-4-web.jpg)

Trying not to look short...instead the twit thinks a booster stool will help...but that massive podium is going to make her look small...couple that with her small petty vindictive moonbat cracked-head...could be a recipe for complete hilarious epic fail.

Plus, I wish Trump would load up the audience with Bill's victims...

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/25/exclusive-kathleen-willey-clinton-sex-victims-fill-entire-audience-presidential-debate/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/25/exclusive-kathleen-willey-clinton-sex-victims-fill-entire-audience-presidential-debate/)

...you cannot tell me Team GrannyDiaper isn't going to have somebody there as a prop!  Plus, always having the media ion your side means more freebies coming.

I hate playing by their rules...I would have held out for some barnstorming Lincoln-Douglas style debates...either the hag shows up or she doesn't...

But I'm torn about watching tonight...I'm so fricken sick of politics...the only reason to watch is in the hope that that despicable evil witch starts bobble-heading, jabbering nonsense (more than the usual) and keels over and falls off that monstrous podium and cracks her head (again)...if that doesn't happen it's going to be a disappointment...and if I do watch I might have to hit the bottle hard just to stomach the sight and sound of that cackling demonic twit!

What is everybody else's thoughts/plans?  Any desire to live-chat this mess?  Whatever Team IAL wants to do I'll try to go along...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 11:20:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Vtfne1R.gif)

H/T-ThePeoplesCube

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/HILLARYHEALTHBINGO.jpg)

H/T - IOTW

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/hillarys_stool.jpg)

H/T - WRSA

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/hearse.jpg)

H/T - WRSA

OK, I really like that last one!   ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on September 26, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
Quote
What is everybody else's thoughts/plans?  Any desire to live-chat this mess?  Whatever Team IAL wants to do I'll try to go along...

Not sure.  Gunsmith showed some interest in watching.  Pencil me in for a maybe/probably.  Is that ok?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 11:56:31 AM
Quote
What is everybody else's thoughts/plans?  Any desire to live-chat this mess?  Whatever Team IAL wants to do I'll try to go along...

Not sure.  Gunsmith showed some interest in watching.  Pencil me in for a maybe/probably.  Is that ok?

Sounds good to me, I'll check in tonight, see what's going on...might be well lubed by then though...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 26, 2016, 12:20:35 PM
I don't know if I can watch it.  Between that shrill harridan and the media tongue bath, I won't be able to hold down my stomach contents.  I might actually check out Alex Jones' live stream of the event at Infowars. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on September 26, 2016, 07:44:58 PM
I'm home alone, so I see how much I can stand.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:12:21 PM
Hitlery is wooden, halting and recycling 30-year old lingo. 

I'm already comfortably self-medicated and that is painfully obvious...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:14:35 PM
Nobody in chat mode...I'll leave it up a bit...see if anybody appears...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:26:38 PM
10M jobs...to Mexico...and we get their welfare recipients...Establishment economics at its worst...

Hey, what about destroying the coal industry...

Oh, evil coal, hurt gaia...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
Emails, oops. 

And is it me or is the list of questions coming right from Soros or what?

I think these old formats are stupid, playing by media and prog rules is stupid.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
Oh God, gun-grabber Hitlery hatin' on firearms again.  Yes, taking guns out of lawful hands...will save lives...banger thug muzzie terrorist lives...no others though.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2016, 07:26:36 AM
I finally got tired of having an opinion...this first so-called "debate" was yet again another DemoProg-Media Complex conspiracy...it's to the point where the media cannot hide it anymore and the sheeple wandering the streets are senseless to it.  But intelligent people know a sham when they see one.  I made a passing comment that the media slid Hildabeast the questions and right from the get-go that was clear as crystal.  And even with that advantage and having an ally as a choreographer the best the crazy old lady could do (judging from the post-production chatter) is a push.  If Trump polishes his game, tightens his jabs and hits key knockout punches he could wipe the floor with this loser.  Hildabeast on the other hand cannot possibly improve...there simply is no room for it and she can only go down.  But you can bet your bottom dollar that in the "townhall" format the potted plants and matching questions are going to be an emot-a-thon and Trump is going to have to come up with clever strategies to turn the tables and put the blame where it belongs for all of our ills - progs and their disasterous policies.  Reviving the Reagan Mantra of "are you better off now than 8 years ago?" might be ripe for deployment...because so very very few are.

Anyway, in the interesting news department...

Ted Cruz praises Trump, sounds warning on Clinton (http://iotwreport.com/ted-cruz-praises-the-performance-of-donald-trump-at-the-first-debate/).  Interesting...no mention if Beck fell off the wagon...

[img width=598height=800]http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b95ab03b54ff2b3898748676e6ec73ac9c108db46460f66b7bf66815f68811e.jpg[/img]

Lester Holt - The Third Debater - No questions on E-mailgate, Benghazi, Clinton Money Laundering Operation (the so-called "Foundation"), none of it! (http://heatst.com/politics/lester-holt-the-third-debater/)

And yeah, Donald knows a dick in a bag when he sees one...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/trump-just-played-nbc-hack-lester-holt-end-debate-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/trump-just-played-nbc-hack-lester-holt-end-debate-video/)

Yeah, set your dirty ass back down, jackwagon!   ::cool::

And yeah...every time that cackling creature cracked her beak...

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e644e44928665eccb11d66471f2ba7b97ab030dcf02cbc3c4da3b670bafdad15.jpg)

And WTF is this?

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c4743bac25d77198fe0acb152dc09f0c26c17af61ff8b186921ca08c859ec54.jpg)

Programmable med dispenser?  Wireless antenna to operate the cyborg?

Anyway, all that advantage, and in many quarters Hildabeast was seen to have been beaten like a drum...

Drudge has it 82-18% Trump, which I guess we can say the "high end".  Heh.

Slime has it Trump too though -

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f927da1a63a3176188b9f105bdfe34b21f2838e0c0c3010550e285a00010ec37.png)

CNBC has it 66-34% Trump (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html)

And people are keying on specific things here and there, but when you lie constantly and are not held accountable by the DemoProg-Media Complex, well, it is beyond a target rich environment...but this one is quite a doozie -

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-26-at-11.23.30-PM.png)

http://iotwreport.com/the-more-i-thought-about-this-the-angrier-i-got/ (http://iotwreport.com/the-more-i-thought-about-this-the-angrier-i-got/)

Yup, being non-cooperative (not to mention dishonest!) for 11 hours over your own treason and corruption...is a resume-enhancer to be proud of.

How effing sick, evil and twisted is that?  Off the charts, that's what!

And via WRSA...being who I am I cannot help but get a chuckle out of this...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/img_2692.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/e29360fbcf4cc224958f9c77006bdb8b7c8625bbb6f4b80c8b63a945cf1c0757.jpg)

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/from-over-the-transom-14/ (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/from-over-the-transom-14/)

Seriously though...the above should always be everyone's Plan A, everything else is Plan B or lower!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on September 27, 2016, 10:57:16 AM
I just picked up some more AR mags from Wise Tactical.  Currently 5% off and free shipping with discount code WISE5. 

I was actually somewhat surprised that she came right out and attacked "assault weapons" rather than the usual obfuscation behind their new euphemism of "gun safety."  I was surprised because gun control has been a losing issue for them over the last 20 years.  They're so fond of saying this or that issue is "settled" well this is one instance where it really is settled -- people consistently reject attacks on their 2nd Amendment rights.  So I am glad the drugged up banshee did it.

I think Trump was also operating under the assumption that the more she is allowed to talk, the more she alienates people.  This has even been studied.  People have a lower opinion of her the more they hear her talk.

These debates are bogus anyway.  I wish a Republican candidate would just call them what they are: televised ambushes setup in advance by the "moderator" and the DNC.  The good news is the debates have little influence unless one candidate just royally screws up.  The independents have been breaking strongly in Trump's favor and I don't think that is going to change.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
Yeah.  I think that nails-on-the-chalkboard effect of that perpetual-lie-machine does more to swing people to Trump as much as anything...there simply is no other explanation to account for the movement from Clinton to Trump when Clinton is spending millions in blatant lie-filled ads where Trump has yet to even mount a campaign in the airwaves.

And if wife of rapist Clinton wants to try to become Gun Salescreature of the Month for September, October and November, fine with me, but nothing beyond that please.
 ;D

And yeah, they had her medicated to the point of zombification, but I think they put some Prozac in that mix too and had it pumping into her via that delivery device stashed in her back...that smarmy frozen-faced crooked smile has "drugged" written all over it too.

And even with debates set up by conspirators...that was the best she could do?   ::hysterical::

And that edict out to the little Goebbels at prog-infested "FactCheck.Org" to get to work experienced some...difficulties.

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/fact-check-.-org-.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/fact-wreck-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers-at-first-debate/ (http://iotwreport.com/fact-wreck-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers-at-first-debate/)

Heh!  I so hope it was the Russians!  But whoever...thanks...these a-holes never saw a prog lie or a non-prog truth their entire life! 

And good news for Hillary...and actually every old/fat/lazy/stupid/near-ADA clown out there -

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Travel/2016/September/Modobag1_1960-large.jpg)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/introducing-the-ridealong-suitcase-for-adults/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/introducing-the-ridealong-suitcase-for-adults/)

Sitting on luggage (or documents you'll shred later)...the pinnacle in societal evolution!   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 28, 2016, 07:39:31 AM
(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-27-at-12.11.18-PM.png)

Oh  ::cussing::  hide the decline!   ::hysterical::

And the hilarity keeps rolling...

“My message today … is to Robby Mook, Hillary Clinton’s manager,” she said. “You know, I’m 61 years old. I’ve been out of the closet for 40 years. And Mr. Mook is a gay person, just like me. …

“And it’s really flooring the hell out of me that he’s supporting a woman that took money from these countries, from these countries that would take him and his friends or his lover or his partner and throw them off a building and kill them,” she said.

“I’m floored over this,” the woman added. “I had my suspicions that he was, watching him, but before I come out on anybody I had to reup on him and he is (gay). What a freaking disgrace.”

DeplorableCorgiGirl, also known as @DebraMax on Twitter, donned a Trump for President 2016 shirt in the video. She explained that she lived through the worst of the aids epidemic and believes threats and acts of terrorism from radical Islamists that support Clinton present a far scarier situation.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/lesbian-trump-supporter-slams-gay-clinton-campaign-manager-robby-mook/ (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/lesbian-trump-supporter-slams-gay-clinton-campaign-manager-robby-mook/)

Clinton poster girl of fatties-done-wrong by Donald..."Ms. Piggy"...not so poster-worthy as she may be unless you're talking "wanted poster"!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3810484/Miss-Universe-fat-shamed-Donald-Trump-accused-threatening-kill-judge-accomplice-MURDER-native-Venezuela.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3810484/Miss-Universe-fat-shamed-Donald-Trump-accused-threatening-kill-judge-accomplice-MURDER-native-Venezuela.html)

Clintonite college Prof caught stealing Trump signs -

http://iotwreport.com/college-professor-dr-norman-muir-caught-stealing-trump-signs-off-mans-lawn/ (http://iotwreport.com/college-professor-dr-norman-muir-caught-stealing-trump-signs-off-mans-lawn/)

Heh, now that's class!   ::hysterical::

And Hillary is already losing interest among black voters...if she is losing gays and fatties...well, that's got to really sting!   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 29, 2016, 07:39:34 AM
Sowell throws in for Trump...though I don't recall him being a radical #NeverTrump member.

In other news...

Trump was right in the debate about "Stop & Frisk" and Clinton and Lester Holt wrong -

Mr. Trump invoked stop and frisk as a way to “take the gun away from criminals” in high-crime areas and protect the innocent. That provoked Mr. Holt, who said that “stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional in New York.” Mr. Trump then noted that the ruling in the case came from a “very against police judge” who later had the case taken away from her. Mrs. Clinton then echoed Mr. Holt.

Here’s what really happened. The federal judge in the stop-and-frisk case was Shira Scheindlin, a notorious police critic whose behavior got her taken off the case by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The appellate court put it this way:

“Upon review of the record in these cases, we conclude that the District Judge ran afoul of the Code of Conduct for United States Judges . . . and that the appearance of impartiality surrounding this litigation was compromised by the District Judge’s improper application of the Court’s ‘related case rule’ . . . and by a series of media interviews and public statements purporting to respond publicly to criticism of the District Court.”

The court then remanded the case to another judge who would not present an appearance of bias against the police. In a follow-up opinion, the appellate judges cited a New Yorker interview with Judge Scheindlin that included a quote from a former law clerk saying “what you have to remember about the judge is that she thinks cops lie.”

This is an extraordinary rebuke by a higher court and raises doubts that the merits of her ruling would have held up on appeal. As Rudolph Giuliani makes clear nearby, the judge’s ruling of unconstitutionality applied only to stop and frisk as it was practiced in New York at the time. Such police search tactics have long been upheld by higher courts.

In the end, the clock ran out on Mayor Mike Bloomberg, and new Mayor Bill de Blasio chose not to appeal. We rate Mr. Trump’s claim true and unfairly second-guessed by a moderator who didn’t give the viewing public all the facts.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298202-wsj-and-rudy-giuliani-lester-holts-fact-check-on-stop-and-frisk-was-dead-wrong/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298202-wsj-and-rudy-giuliani-lester-holts-fact-check-on-stop-and-frisk-was-dead-wrong/)

Should bang her with that next go-around.

Oh, and important to keep that witch's playbook in mind at all times!

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/playbook.jpg)

http://iotwreport.com/her-political-life-scandals-began-with-travelgate-and-it-set-the-tone-for-a-lifetime-of-corruption/ (http://iotwreport.com/her-political-life-scandals-began-with-travelgate-and-it-set-the-tone-for-a-lifetime-of-corruption/)

Oh, and...

7.  Accuse your opponents of being guilty of the crimes and sins you've committed and continue to commit.

Demons, they are consistent in their depravity as they are persistent.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on September 29, 2016, 11:40:16 AM
I finally got tired of having an opinion...this first so-called "debate" was yet again another DemoProg-Media Complex conspiracy...it's to the point where the media cannot hide it anymore and the sheeple wandering the streets are senseless to it.  But intelligent people know a sham when they see one.  I made a passing comment that the media slid Hildabeast the questions and right from the get-go that was clear as crystal.  And even with that advantage and having an ally as a choreographer the best the crazy old lady could do (judging from the post-production chatter) is a push.  If Trump polishes his game, tightens his jabs and hits key knockout punches he could wipe the floor with this loser.  Hildabeast on the other hand cannot possibly improve...there simply is no room for it and she can only go down.  But you can bet your bottom dollar that in the "townhall" format the potted plants and matching questions are going to be an emot-a-thon and Trump is going to have to come up with clever strategies to turn the tables and put the blame where it belongs for all of our ills - progs and their disasterous policies.  Reviving the Reagan Mantra of "are you better off now than 8 years ago?" might be ripe for deployment...because so very very few are.

Anyway, in the interesting news department...

Ted Cruz praises Trump, sounds warning on Clinton (http://iotwreport.com/ted-cruz-praises-the-performance-of-donald-trump-at-the-first-debate/).  Interesting...no mention if Beck fell off the wagon...

[img width=598height=800]http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b95ab03b54ff2b3898748676e6ec73ac9c108db46460f66b7bf66815f68811e.jpg[/img]

Lester Holt - The Third Debater - No questions on E-mailgate, Benghazi, Clinton Money Laundering Operation (the so-called "Foundation"), none of it! (http://heatst.com/politics/lester-holt-the-third-debater/)

And yeah, Donald knows a dick in a bag when he sees one...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/trump-just-played-nbc-hack-lester-holt-end-debate-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/trump-just-played-nbc-hack-lester-holt-end-debate-video/)

Yeah, set your dirty ass back down, jackwagon!   ::cool::

And yeah...every time that cackling creature cracked her beak...

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e644e44928665eccb11d66471f2ba7b97ab030dcf02cbc3c4da3b670bafdad15.jpg)

And WTF is this?

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c4743bac25d77198fe0acb152dc09f0c26c17af61ff8b186921ca08c859ec54.jpg)

Programmable med dispenser?  Wireless antenna to operate the cyborg?

Anyway, all that advantage, and in many quarters Hildabeast was seen to have been beaten like a drum...

Drudge has it 82-18% Trump, which I guess we can say the "high end".  Heh.

Slime has it Trump too though -

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f927da1a63a3176188b9f105bdfe34b21f2838e0c0c3010550e285a00010ec37.png)

CNBC has it 66-34% Trump (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html)

And people are keying on specific things here and there, but when you lie constantly and are not held accountable by the DemoProg-Media Complex, well, it is beyond a target rich environment...but this one is quite a doozie -

(http://17663-presscdn-0-49.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-26-at-11.23.30-PM.png)

http://iotwreport.com/the-more-i-thought-about-this-the-angrier-i-got/ (http://iotwreport.com/the-more-i-thought-about-this-the-angrier-i-got/)

Yup, being non-cooperative (not to mention dishonest!) for 11 hours over your own treason and corruption...is a resume-enhancer to be proud of.

How effing sick, evil and twisted is that?  Off the charts, that's what!

And via WRSA...being who I am I cannot help but get a chuckle out of this...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/img_2692.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/e29360fbcf4cc224958f9c77006bdb8b7c8625bbb6f4b80c8b63a945cf1c0757.jpg)

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/from-over-the-transom-14/ (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/from-over-the-transom-14/)

Seriously though...the above should always be everyone's Plan A, everything else is Plan B or lower!!!


Sorry, but that large lump is nothing more than an extremely large boil. Old, sick people get them.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 29, 2016, 11:47:52 AM
 ::puke::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2016, 07:24:53 AM
The Hollyweirdo's are really going apeshat this cycle, eh?  I mean I haven't seen them this deranged since Booosh and Palin!

http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-republicans-feel-under-siege-in-toxic-anti-trump-industry/ (http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-republicans-feel-under-siege-in-toxic-anti-trump-industry/)

You know what that tells me?  Yeah, McCain & Romney weren't scary Conservative, which is the same as saying not Conservative.  And they are not fearing Trump because he is Conservative (though on some issues he is or can be)...it is because he is a wrecking ball, he'll rollback some Progressive gains and prevent them from advancing their demonic agenda under Clinton, which the batshyt social/religious wars and controlling SCOTUS is probably preeminent in their dark desires.

Another reason to smile...let the wrecking ball swing!   ::whoohoo::

And Hey-Zeus, Maria y Jose...has Trump got to throw this anchor around the Hildabests neck!

In swipe at Trump, Clinton names Merkel as her favorite world leader...Democratic candidate praises ‘extraordinary’ German chancellor.

http://www.politico.eu/article/in-swipe-at-trump-clinton-names-merkel-as-her-favorite-world-leader/ (http://www.politico.eu/article/in-swipe-at-trump-clinton-names-merkel-as-her-favorite-world-leader/)

Politico...   ::)

Only a legitimate douchenozzle could describe this as both a "swipe" at Trump and an example of anything resembling an "extraordinary" leader...

Merkel has trampled the rights of all Europeans, not just the Germans she nominally represents...she's forced everybody in the EU to take hoards of murderous death-cultists intent upon beating, raping and murdering the citizens they are being dumped upon...their bank is about to go tits up...she played no small part in driving the British out of the EU and others are wanting to join the exodus rather than commit suicide with Merkel...and Hillary Clinton chooses this spawn of Stasi as a leader worth emulating?

Man, she is just as suicidal as Merkel and it cannot go unmentioned!

Another point Trump was right about...

Bush cleared the decks for his successor...Obama campaigned on bailing on Iraq and was intent on keeping that...at it was his regime that pulled out, his regime that gave a date-certain, his regime that created the vacuum that ISIS exploited...his regime that admitted no fault in word but admitted fault in action when they had to "surge"...

But Lester the Third Debater and Official Goebbels Rep charged with covering Clinton's ample ass and fatter lies joined in the bashing of Trump.

Liars lie, constantly and remorselessly.

I really want to smash their faces in with their own limbs...oh gosh, was that out loud?  Yeah, too bad...

On the cheating front, well, business as usually, just getting more fevered -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298453-california-governor-signs-bill-allowing-felons-to-vote-from-their-jail-cells/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298453-california-governor-signs-bill-allowing-felons-to-vote-from-their-jail-cells/)

January.  Sure, we believe them...

/

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298459-more-dead-people-voting-this-time-in-virgina/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298459-more-dead-people-voting-this-time-in-virgina/)

Arise and vote for Der Clinton...then, back to the grave!

Nothing to see, move along...

/
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2016, 08:46:13 AM
This is good, Trump releases "Ten Inconvenient Truths About The Clinton Foundation"...

The Summary List -

FACT ONE – There Are Major Overlaps Between Clinton’s Campaign Donors And Her Foundation Donors, Raising Ethical Red Flags

FACT TWO – Several Major Clinton Foundation Donations Came From Companies Lobbying The Federal Government

FACT THREE – The Clinton Foundation Accepted Millions From Foreign Governments

FACT FOUR – The Clinton Foundation Accepted Millions From Other Foreign Sources While Clinton Served As Secretary Of State

FACT FIVE – Last Week The Clinton Foundation Announced They Wouldn’t Take Foreign Or Corporate Money If Clinton Is Elected, But Other Charities Still Will Be Allowed To

FACT SIX – The FBI Wanted To Open An Investigation Into The Clinton Foundation, But The Effort Was Scuttled By The Obama Administration

FACT SEVEN – Clinton’s Chief Of Staff At State Had A Deep And Simultaneous Involvement In The Clinton Foundation

FACT EIGHT – Sidney Blumenthal Collected $10,000 A Month From The Clinton Foundation While Providing Libyan Intelligence To Clinton

FACT NINE – The Clinton Foundation Failed To Disclose $26.4 Million In Speaking Honoraria While Clinton Was Secretary Of State

FACT TEN – Since 2003, The Clinton Foundation Has Spent More Than $50 Million On Travel


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/trump-campaign-releases-ten-inconvenient-truths-about-clinton-foundation (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/trump-campaign-releases-ten-inconvenient-truths-about-clinton-foundation)

For Morons - The Clinton Foundation is a money-laundering racket designed to collect fees for access and favors from domestic and foreign fat cats, cronies and sundry low-life shatbags in order to fund the presidential candidacy of the most corrupt candidate in American history and is protected by fellow travellers in the Obama Regime like FBI Director Comey and the entire Democrat-Media Complex.

Got it?

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2016, 12:02:19 PM
The more Clinton talks...

https://youtu.be/1T6aRh0uDQw (https://youtu.be/1T6aRh0uDQw)

 ::saywhat::   ::laughonfloor::

It really isn't that hard...the middle class is that segment of society progressive's like you have been lying to and stealing from and punishing for decades...because it was made up of mostly white folks with a work ethic that made sh*t work in this nation...

And Hillary cannot even manufacture a short answer long on bullsh*t!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Dumbass/shead_zps6b5w9vc8.jpg)

Keep yammering, fool!

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ColJodqWYAAL0Ve.jpg)

Heh!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2016, 07:51:25 PM
BLM terrorists vandalize Trump International in DC...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/clinton-supporters-vandalize-trump-international-hotel-washington-dc/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/clinton-supporters-vandalize-trump-international-hotel-washington-dc/)

...Trump should shame Clinton into denouncing them...but yeah, that's like the Devil reprimanding a demon for doing something evil, and Trump can use that line too, it will work and cut off any "...but..." BS sputtered by the Succubus in the next debate.

And this was good...

http://thehill.com/media/298821-fox-news-bill-clinton-rapist-alex-jones (http://thehill.com/media/298821-fox-news-bill-clinton-rapist-alex-jones)

...Alex should make good and pay up.

And Dingy Harry hasn't been outed as the source...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/02/trump-campaign-new-york-times-illegally-obtained-tax-records/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/02/trump-campaign-new-york-times-illegally-obtained-tax-records/)

...but who cares, this is a non-story.  I'd let out a lot of rope...make it taking the slack out at once more dramatic.

Oh, and grill the Hildabeast over illegals too, bring up these stories (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14613.new#new) and remind people Clinton won't to crap to stop it and in fact will double-down on the stupidity!

And keep hitting her...while she's distracted maybe this will provide the next round of sport -

http://heatst.com/politics/october-surprise-thwarted-wikileaks-cancels-highly-anticipated-tuesday-announcement-due-to-security-concerns/ (http://heatst.com/politics/october-surprise-thwarted-wikileaks-cancels-highly-anticipated-tuesday-announcement-due-to-security-concerns/)

...looks like the Clinton Plumbers / PPT members delayed the release, but as we all know..."you can't stop the signal"...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2016, 12:14:51 PM
Hilarious...one stupid C*** covering for another stupid c*** with a classic "lesser of evil" rationalization...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298897-dem-sen-claire-mccaskill-what-clinton-has-done-for-women-outweighs-her-negative-comments-about-them/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298897-dem-sen-claire-mccaskill-what-clinton-has-done-for-women-outweighs-her-negative-comments-about-them/)

...so, covering for an adulterous/rapist husband...is cool because Hillary will keep uterus's free of men?

Awesome.

OK, and this...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298886-hillary-clinton-we-have-to-reliable-and-trustworthy/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298886-hillary-clinton-we-have-to-reliable-and-trustworthy/)

..."honest and trustworthy"?!

Seriously, how does this idiot say this crap and not burst out laughing wickedly?

And...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/298940-hypocrite-hillary-used-same-method-trump-did-to-not-pay-taxes/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/298940-hypocrite-hillary-used-same-method-trump-did-to-not-pay-taxes/)

...nah nah nah nah nah!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2016, 07:29:43 AM
Didn't watch this latest Democrat-Media Complex set up...pretty much went according to Democrat-Media Complex collusion...

Douchebag Kaine gets to act like a clown and spout jibberish and talk over Pence...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299338-rnc-kaine-interrupted-debate-over-70-times (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299338-rnc-kaine-interrupted-debate-over-70-times)

And partisan Democrat whore "moderator" Elaine Quijano openly became the second Democrat debater...er, filibusterer...joining in on the Pence pounding...

And yup, typical media f**kweasels aren't held accountable and dumbass GOP candidates walk right into the trap yet again...glad I missed this latest fraud...

And yup, my opinion that Trump blew it by picking an establishment marshmallow is confirmed...I would have preferred a Palin type that wouldn't have let either Democrat asswipe get away with this typical behavior...

It is skull-stomping time...pattycake time is for gutless wonders...

 ::mooning::

Next up?  The stacked, racked, and packed Townhall ambush of Trump.

I think I'll be sorting my sock drawer that night...and maybe cleaning a bangstick I found at the bottom of the lake...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2016, 11:23:36 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Clintons/Hillary_Queen_Basement_Dwellers_5_zpsr0lrlyjn.jpg)

I wonder if they crawled out long enough to watch batshyt Timmy go bobblehead?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2016, 10:08:24 PM
I hear Hildabeast is in her crypt again...gathering her dark forces together for the next staged Democrat-Media Complex ambush...reading the not-released-to-candidates questions and getting the right potted plants in place and working out the timing for the Third Debater to jump in.

And in other news...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/10/04/al-gore-to-campaign-for-clinton-hoping-to-galvanize-young-voters-on-climate-change/?utm_term=.881cdfdb5b2d (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/10/04/al-gore-to-campaign-for-clinton-hoping-to-galvanize-young-voters-on-climate-change/?utm_term=.881cdfdb5b2d)

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, get a couple more millennials out of their basement lairs...and turn off more people by a factor of 3:1!   ::laughonfloor::

This is good...

http://ntknetwork.com/protester-interrupts-bill-clinton-with-a-bill-clinton-a-rapist-sign/ (http://ntknetwork.com/protester-interrupts-bill-clinton-with-a-bill-clinton-a-rapist-sign/)

...nice lame comeback, wow...what a wit!   ::rolllaughing::

I'm sure women who have been legitimately assaulted by a predator are fine with that response!

But hey, she won't learn the next of Bill's new accusers for a while yet...while she is tucked away in her crypt Bill can go wild.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2016, 07:10:01 AM
Just some debate prep is all...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-05/clinton-caught-using-child-actor-ask-planted-question-pennsylvania-townhall (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-05/clinton-caught-using-child-actor-ask-planted-question-pennsylvania-townhall)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-06/leaked-memo-confirms-hillary-was-given-questions-ahead-interview (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-06/leaked-memo-confirms-hillary-was-given-questions-ahead-interview)

And other business as usual for demonrats...

http://iotwreport.com/illegal-voters-uncovered-in-philly-are-tip-of-the-iceberg/ (http://iotwreport.com/illegal-voters-uncovered-in-philly-are-tip-of-the-iceberg/)

Swing state?  How about stolen state?!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/299590-prosecutor-investigating-individuals-from-chicago-trying-to-bribe-people-to-vote-for-democrats-in-kankakee-illinois/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/299590-prosecutor-investigating-individuals-from-chicago-trying-to-bribe-people-to-vote-for-democrats-in-kankakee-illinois/)

Chitcago thugs...Obama's people...SSDD.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 06, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
I hear Hildabeast is in her crypt again...gathering her dark forces together for the next staged Democrat-Media Complex ambush...


So does she have to sleep in the corrupted soil of her ancient homeland in order to rejuvenate?  The MSM are like the gypsy minions loyal to Dracula, protecting her while she sleeps in her coffin.

Tim Kaine is like Renfield.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
I hear Hildabeast is in her crypt again...gathering her dark forces together for the next staged Democrat-Media Complex ambush...


So does she have to sleep in the corrupted soil of her ancient homeland in order to rejuvenate?  The MSM are like the gypsy minions loyal to Dracula, protecting her while she sleeps in her coffin.

Tim Kaine is like Renfield.

And that fugly troll will eat your babies!

(http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/5457/7/original/960.jpg)

And that bat-eared freak is still just a minor demon compared to Smegyn's ticket-topper!

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2364/6917/original.jpg)
Trump is mean! - Smegyn Kelly, Hillary Fan-girl and Fellow appeaser of serial-rapist Bill Clinton.

Yeah...rot in Hell, toots!   ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 06, 2016, 12:09:01 PM
"Smegyn" - I almost missed that!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2016, 07:20:05 AM
How come Smegyn never covers proglodyte corruption and lawlessness?

IL, OH...now fraud and criminal acts in VA, CO, CA...PA...every fricken where!

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/dead-people-and-illegal-immigrants-are-being-registered-to-vote-all-over-america (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/dead-people-and-illegal-immigrants-are-being-registered-to-vote-all-over-america)

Indiana crap is expanding like a ravenous virus!

http://fox59.com/2016/10/06/state-police-expand-indiana-voter-registration-project-investigation-to-57-counties/ (http://fox59.com/2016/10/06/state-police-expand-indiana-voter-registration-project-investigation-to-57-counties/)

But, establishment a-holes don't care...proglodytes can do no wrong...

99% of the media is in cahoots with them...

 ::outrage::

(http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/384bdfaa18d2314948c38df30572b44edf86f0acc7f9dc058c77cd4ba5b56a97.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2016, 08:06:58 AM
And B Hussein O's foreign pals will largely be in...areas where proglodyte cheating will be least likely...like largely white precincts I bet!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/06/global-bureaucrats-invited-by-obama-to-inspect-us-elections/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/06/global-bureaucrats-invited-by-obama-to-inspect-us-elections/)

I see any of this garbage...they're gonna get tossed out!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2016, 09:24:42 AM
Clinton, now 67, also shared a lot of intimacies regarding his marriage toHillary.
They left Gennifer in no doubt that the union is far from 'traditional.'
She said: ‘What they have is very strong.
'It obviouslyworked for them but I’ve never considered theirs a traditional marriage.’
When rumours surfaced recently of an affairbetween Hillary Clinton and her transition office chief, Huma Abedin, 37, Gennifer was not surprised.
The rumours concerning Huma, wife ofdisgraced former Mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner, 49, emerged as she stood by her husband in the wake of his recent 'sexting' scandal.
Gennifer said: ‘I don’t know Huma or the Weiners. I justknow what Bill told me and that was that he was aware that Hillary was bisexualand he didn’t care. He should know.
'He said Hillary had eaten more p***y than he had.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424555/Bill-Clintons-mistress-Gennifer-Flowers-Wed-today-wasnt-Chelsea.html#ixzz4MVHmboLH (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424555/Bill-Clintons-mistress-Gennifer-Flowers-Wed-today-wasnt-Chelsea.html#ixzz4MVHmboLH)
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 ::puke::


The First American Female President shouldn't be a batshyt crazy vindictive bi-sexual freak who has to be kept alive and upright by a team of doctors and who had a kid out of wedlock to hide her freakishness!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on October 08, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Wow....

Obama: Hey Bill, how's Hillary's head?
Bill: Well, she is no Monica.

I guess Trump needs to quit talking dirty and actually molest someone so he will be accepted.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2016, 11:13:40 AM
Yup, nothing gets you better street-cred with progressives like raping women and then having your lesbian wife go destroy them.

And yeah, we live in country we allowed to be hijacked by complete and utter morons on the one hand and keep giving power to a bunch of candy-ass pubbies who only know how to grab their ankles and enable the progressives...so that we can see utterly stupid sh*t like this unfold -

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-08/republicans-wish-for-pence-led-ticket-as-trump-video-roils-race (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-08/republicans-wish-for-pence-led-ticket-as-trump-video-roils-race)

How come people aren't chasing Clinton down, why hasn't she even been indicted for treason and covering up messes she made like Benghazi and Emailgate?  Why is Bill Clinton not a registered sex offender?

But a stupid frat-boy quip from 2005 that suddenly appeared out of nowhere and that is grounds for anything?  It doesn't even come close to the Clinton Standard of Behavior...and he should use that quip in the debate I won't be watching...and take all gloves off.

Certainly doesn't rise to Obama's Bitch nigga buy your own damn fries!" comment or anything ever said by that turdsack LBJ! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/flashback-video-presidents-colorful-including-obamas-btch-nigga-buy-damn-fries/)

But these puking dog pubbies are told to bark by the proglodyte media and arf they go!

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/08/paul-ryan-shouted-down-by-trump-supporters-in-wisconsin/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/08/paul-ryan-shouted-down-by-trump-supporters-in-wisconsin/)

What a bunch of assholes!  Somebody needs to kick the piss out of those clowns too!  Nice to see people hound that wuss Ryan!

Somebody better get Bobby back on his meds...

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/09/jon-voight-defends-trump-remarks-blasts-robert-de-niro-for-ugly-rant.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/09/jon-voight-defends-trump-remarks-blasts-robert-de-niro-for-ugly-rant.html)

...guess somebody is worried they won't be Bill's wingman if he isn't made First Lady and chasing interns, eh?

And while the press and every low-info voter and barely sentient bipodal moron goes about ignoring the real danger to women...sex assaulter Bill Clinton and the enabler and destroy of womens lives Hillary Clinton...maybe Trump should invite those assaulted to the rest of the debates and stop fighting with one hand behind your back!

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/09/breitbart-news-exclusive-video-interview-bill-clinton-accuser-juanita-broaddrick-breaks-describing-brutal-rapes/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/09/breitbart-news-exclusive-video-interview-bill-clinton-accuser-juanita-broaddrick-breaks-describing-brutal-rapes/)

https://twitter.com/kathleenwilley/status/784803445098242048 (https://twitter.com/kathleenwilley/status/784803445098242048)

Until the presstitutes and the rest of the country deals with the shatbag Clintons...I'd shove all this filth back into their faces!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2016, 07:54:43 PM
Yes, so according to the MSM and GOP Establishment, some decade-old bragging and sh*t-talking by Donald Trump is more damning and disqualifying than actual misdeeds by Hillary in her official capacity as Secretary of State.

The rapid condemnation from GOP cuckolds was far too coordinated for this to have been spontaneous.  Truth be told, the GOPe is probably the culprit in this more so than the Clinton campaign.  This is part of their punishment of Republican voters for having the audacity to not let them foist ¡Jeb! on us.  They've calculated that they can deep six the Trump insurgency by ceding 2016 to Hillary, then in 2020 or 2024 they will be back in control of the party. It's not gonna go down like that though. Regardless of what happens this year, the GOP is finished. Should've happened years ago.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on October 09, 2016, 08:36:03 PM
The establishment republicans.......running like a *itch from a fight. Our esteemed Tn governor ran for cover. *ussy. Shaking the hand of an establishment type should be considered grabbing a *ussy. I'm so sick of this crap.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 09, 2016, 09:03:47 PM
The establishment republicans.......running like a *itch from a fight. Our esteemed Tn governor ran for cover. *ussy. Shaking the hand of an establishment type should be considered grabbing a *ussy. I'm so sick of this crap.

   The wussification of the American male.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 09, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
Yes, so according to the MSM and GOP Establishment, some decade-old bragging and sh*t-talking by Donald Trump is more damning and disqualifying than actual misdeeds by Hillary in her official capacity as Secretary of State.

The rapid condemnation from GOP cuckolds was far too coordinated for this to have been spontaneous.  Truth be told, the GOPe is probably the culprit in this more so than the Clinton campaign.  This is part of their punishment of Republican voters for having the audacity to not let them foist ¡Jeb! on us.  They've calculated that they can deep six the Trump insurgency by ceding 2016 to Hillary, then in 2020 or 2024 they will be back in control of the party. It's not gonna go down like that though. Regardless of what happens this year, the GOP is finished. Should've happened years ago.

Ryan and Uncle Pribus were clued in several weeks ago - and chose to say nothing. They should be shot

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on October 09, 2016, 09:21:11 PM
The establishment republicans.......running like a *itch from a fight. Our esteemed Tn governor ran for cover. *ussy. Shaking the hand of an establishment type should be considered grabbing a *ussy. I'm so sick of this crap.

   The wussification of the American male.


Yep. My son and I were laughing at some of the commercials ran today.....as in the male actors used. The true car guy, you know, he barely looks like a male. Also, the Carvana male, who said it didn't suck buying a car online and they dance to it. Well, he sucks.... I could go on and on.

And the movie commercial, where they show every nationality, every color, going into the theater, but the very last shot is of the middle aged white guy mopping up.  We are inundated...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 09, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Yes, so according to the MSM and GOP Establishment, some decade-old bragging and sh*t-talking by Donald Trump is more damning and disqualifying than actual misdeeds by Hillary in her official capacity as Secretary of State.

The rapid condemnation from GOP cuckolds was far too coordinated for this to have been spontaneous.  Truth be told, the GOPe is probably the culprit in this more so than the Clinton campaign.  This is part of their punishment of Republican voters for having the audacity to not let them foist ¡Jeb! on us.  They've calculated that they can deep six the Trump insurgency by ceding 2016 to Hillary, then in 2020 or 2024 they will be back in control of the party. It's not gonna go down like that though. Regardless of what happens this year, the GOP is finished. Should've happened years ago.

Ryan and Uncle Pribus were clued in several weeks ago - and chose to say nothing. They should be shot

 ::rockets::

Bears repeating.

Quote
Clinton operatives, alleged to be working in conjunction with the Washington Post, released a brief audio tape from eleven years ago that captures Donald Trump in some unsavory locker-room banter that included a reference to grabbing a certain part of the female anatomy. Multiple sources have now indicated this tape’s release was initiated weeks earlier, and that both House Speaker Paul Ryan and GOP Chair Reince Priebus, had been made aware of its intended use – and then failed to notify the Trump campaign, making them complicit in the Clinton Machine’s intent to harm the Trump campaign.

... Speaker Ryan was scheduled to do a political rally appearance with Trump today. Instead, he indicated he was disgusted and horrified by Trump’s naughty words from eleven years ago, and abruptly cancelled the appearance.

Apparently, that cancellation had been in the works all along so as to embarrass Trump. Ryan has no desire to see Donald Trump win the 2016 election, because the current Republican and House Speaker is said to have every intention of running for president in 2020.

Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/team-hillary-gave-gop-establishment-heads-releasing-anti-trump-naughty-word-tape/#c3RPR8sLSi1pDRVi.99 (http://dcwhispers.com/team-hillary-gave-gop-establishment-heads-releasing-anti-trump-naughty-word-tape/#c3RPR8sLSi1pDRVi.99)

Yeah, Ryan:  disgusted and horrified.  Horrified ::snort::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 09, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
The establishment republicans.......running like a *itch from a fight. Our esteemed Tn governor ran for cover. *ussy. Shaking the hand of an establishment type should be considered grabbing a *ussy. I'm so sick of this crap.

   The wussification of the American male.


Yep. My son and I were laughing at some of the commercials ran today.....as in the male actors used. The true car guy, you know, he barely looks like a male. Also, the Carvana male, who said it didn't suck buying a car online and they dance to it. Well, he sucks.... I could go on and on.

And the movie commercial, where they show every nationality, every color, going into the theater, but the very last shot is of the middle aged white guy mopping up.  We are inundated...

   You should see those "true car guys" come in and hit us with true car crap and we inform them that true car is in the business of selling their info to anybody willing to buy it and then charge the dealer for the sale. Who do you think is going to pay for it?? We don't do true car.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2016, 07:28:58 AM
Yes, so according to the MSM and GOP Establishment, some decade-old bragging and sh*t-talking by Donald Trump is more damning and disqualifying than actual misdeeds by Hillary in her official capacity as Secretary of State.

The rapid condemnation from GOP cuckolds was far too coordinated for this to have been spontaneous.  Truth be told, the GOPe is probably the culprit in this more so than the Clinton campaign.  This is part of their punishment of Republican voters for having the audacity to not let them foist ¡Jeb! on us.  They've calculated that they can deep six the Trump insurgency by ceding 2016 to Hillary, then in 2020 or 2024 they will be back in control of the party. It's not gonna go down like that though. Regardless of what happens this year, the GOP is finished. Should've happened years ago.

Ryan and Uncle Pribus were clued in several weeks ago - and chose to say nothing. They should be shot

 ::rockets::

Bears repeating.

Quote
Clinton operatives, alleged to be working in conjunction with the Washington Post, released a brief audio tape from eleven years ago that captures Donald Trump in some unsavory locker-room banter that included a reference to grabbing a certain part of the female anatomy. Multiple sources have now indicated this tape’s release was initiated weeks earlier, and that both House Speaker Paul Ryan and GOP Chair Reince Priebus, had been made aware of its intended use – and then failed to notify the Trump campaign, making them complicit in the Clinton Machine’s intent to harm the Trump campaign.

... Speaker Ryan was scheduled to do a political rally appearance with Trump today. Instead, he indicated he was disgusted and horrified by Trump’s naughty words from eleven years ago, and abruptly cancelled the appearance.

Apparently, that cancellation had been in the works all along so as to embarrass Trump. Ryan has no desire to see Donald Trump win the 2016 election, because the current Republican and House Speaker is said to have every intention of running for president in 2020.

Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/team-hillary-gave-gop-establishment-heads-releasing-anti-trump-naughty-word-tape/#c3RPR8sLSi1pDRVi.99 (http://dcwhispers.com/team-hillary-gave-gop-establishment-heads-releasing-anti-trump-naughty-word-tape/#c3RPR8sLSi1pDRVi.99)

Yeah, Ryan:  disgusted and horrified.  Horrified ::snort::

Not shot...that is too anti-streetlight for me! 

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/40521-GOP_Pussy.png)

H/T - TPC
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2016, 07:46:49 AM
(http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-rape-victims.jpg)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/trump-punked-press-told-reporters-going-pre-debate-presser-walked-clinton-rape-victims/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/trump-punked-press-told-reporters-going-pre-debate-presser-walked-clinton-rape-victims/)

Sucker the media...God help me I love it...I love the smell of burning proglodytes!   ::whoohoo::

And...

'You bragged that you have sexually assaulted women,' Cooper charged.
Trump insisted, as he did Friday night, that 'this was locker room talk. I'm not proud of it.'
But then he turned the discussion on the Clintons.
'If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse,' trump jabbed. 'Mine were words, his were actions.'
'Bill Clinton was abusive to women. Hillary Clinton attacked those women, attacked them viciously.'
Earlier in the night Trump had hosted a press event with Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton.
He also noted that Shelton was sitting in the front row. The Arkansas native was 12 when she was raped by a 41-year-old drifter. Hillary Clinton was her attacker's lawyer.
'Her client – she represented – she got him off,' Trump said, recalling that she was recorded 'laughing [about the case] on two separate tapes.'

Trump's biggest zinger came when Clinton was asked about a fundraising speech where she said 'half' of Trump's voting base belong in 'baskets of deplorables,' and branded the same group as 'irredeemable' because of their views.
Trump pushed back, framing himself as a uniting force in the face of divisive rhetoric.
'We have a divided nation because of people like her. Believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart.'
The line drew audible gasps in the auditorium.
When she said "deplorables," she meant it. When she said "irredeemable" – "they were irredeemable," you didn't mention that – but when she said they were irredeemable, to me that might have been even worse.'
'She has tremendous hatred. This country cannot take another four years of Barack Obama and that's what you are getting with her,' Trump said.

Clinton replied: 'Its just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law of our country.'
'Because you'd be in jail,' he snapped.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830041/Second-debate-Hillary-Clinton-Donald-Trump-gets-underway.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830041/Second-debate-Hillary-Clinton-Donald-Trump-gets-underway.html)

Just can't get this reporting in Amerikan papers...

And once again the in-the-bag-media can't help put sprinkles on the Clinton turd...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kp3WYniRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kp3WYniRQ)

...nobody likes the media...but the media ignores that reality...

Too bad little Bobby doesn't like "banana republic" contests...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/09/schieffer-debate-disgraceful/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/09/schieffer-debate-disgraceful/)

...should have thought of that before hitching your horse to so many shatbag democrats then, Bobby...but you're a stupid SOB and irredeemable to boot.

And just like Obama...flies know where to find fresh shat...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuXo0VOWgAA9cKd.jpg)

 ::hysterical::

And what is with the bloated orca outfit?  Looks like a fat penguin Sith!

 ::laughonfloor::

Drudge pics gets an A+ today!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYFdC3XEAA1hfR.jpg) 
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYFg23XYAAjUux.jpg)

Looks better on his page...

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2016, 11:41:32 AM
http://politopinion.com/2016/10/poll-debate-moderator-ethical/ (http://politopinion.com/2016/10/poll-debate-moderator-ethical/)

92.86% have it right, 1.19% I'm surprised even knew how to access the internet...

And about that poor fly...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/screen-shot-2016-10-10-at-2-06-15-am.png)

(http://political-memes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Hillary-Truth.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/crotch.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/pussygrab.jpg)

 ::rolllaughing::

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/screen-shot-2016-10-09-at-8-53-32-pm.png)

America 2016.

 ::upsidedownflag::

 ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 10, 2016, 12:39:26 PM
(http://outlandersystemsblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/hillary-saudis.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2016, 07:48:42 AM
(http://outlandersystemsblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/hillary-saudis.jpg)

Yeah.

And ahh...how did that "serious pressure" get the Saudi's to change?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/hillary-in-leaked-email-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-are-funding-isis/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/hillary-in-leaked-email-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-are-funding-isis/)

Last I saw nothing has changed...

Huh, wonder what that means?

/
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2016, 08:01:31 AM
People forget about this too...




Nobody cultivates a dirtier mouth than Hillary Clinton. It’s difficult to describe Hillary in full because a decent regard for the gentle reader forbids it. Any teamster, cop, or Secret Service agent assigned to Hillary duty has to put his hands over his ears even to think about it.
Several authors, notably Ronald Kessler, formerly of The Washington Post, have written about Hillary’s tense and often explosive relationship with the Secret Service. The slightest inconvenience, real or imagined, could detonate the virago’s fiery temper. Hillary is regarded as the all-time undisputed least favorite assignment in the Secret Service.

Hillary, by the published accounts, is an equal-opportunity offender, insulting people, dogs and cats, even the flag, going back to her late and lamented days as a governor’s wife in Arkansas. She was particularly abusive to troopers and agents assigned to make her life easier and who were in no position to do anything but take her abuse. She was so verbally abusive to the pilots of Marine One, the presidential helicopter, that the crew called the chopper “Broomstick One.” Just not in her presence.

The required emendations and abbreviations sacrifice the full flavor of some of Hillary’s greatest hits, but there’s this famous Hillary shoutout to a Secret Service agent who was reluctant to carry her suitcase because he wanted to keep his hands free to deal with an incident: “If you want to remain on this detail, get your f-ing ass over here and grab these bags.”

To a state trooper-bodyguard in Arkansas who greeted her with a cheerful “Good morning,” as recounted in Christopher Anderson’s book, “American Evita”: “F- off! It’s enough I have to see you s– kickers every day. I’m not going to talk to you, too. Just do your g-damn job and keep your mouth shut.”

To a state trooper at the Governor’s Mansion, as told in “Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler: “Where is the g-damn flag? I want the g-damn flag up every morning at f-ing sunrise.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/10/hillary-clinton-and-the-art-of-the-dirty-mouth/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/10/hillary-clinton-and-the-art-of-the-dirty-mouth/)

Democrat-Media Complex and the Adjunct Opposition-Party-In-Name-Only don't ever talk about this...it's almost like there is a conspiracy afoot, eh?

Yeah, that's just crazy-talk, eh?

E-GOP Speaker Ryan abandons Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/us/politics/donald-trump-gop-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0)

Media Plot to Destroy Trump goes into hyperdrive (http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/10/oreilly-least-3-media-orgs-have-ordered-employees-destroy-trump)

MFM outlets on the heels of reporting "big bounce" for Hillary in post-debate/post-potty-mouth premier...predicting HUGE losses for their E-GOP pals who are under the recycled "civil war" meme (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2016/10/11/cbs-nbc-hype-gop-civil-war-predict-loss-house-and-senate)...but no mention of how the DNC/Clinton Machine crushed poor little Bernie like a bug, with WikiLeaks outing long-time Clinton operative Donna Brazile being the leaker of Sanders info (http://observer.com/2016/10/breaking-dnc-chief-donna-brazile-leaked-sanders-info-to-clinton-campaign/).

But hey, no worries, Team Clinton can spend more on lie-filled TV ads to batter the ignorant masses with,

Yes, Bill will rape anybody any way he can.

Everything is Awesome, yes? (http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/haitians-fear-clintons-will-scam-them-again/\Bill Clinton will refill those coffers with more cash as soon as he can get back down to Haiti and rape those poor bastards again![/url)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 11, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
She's a dog hater too.  IMO that automatically marks one as a piece of sh*t.  Dogs are superb judges of character, they pick up on the most subtle details of a person's demeanor.  She hates them for the same reason the Terminators hate dogs, because dogs are able to recognize them for what they are.

http://truthfeed.com/hillary-clinton-to-k9-handler-get-that-fking-dog-away-from-me/14725/ (http://truthfeed.com/hillary-clinton-to-k9-handler-get-that-fking-dog-away-from-me/14725/)


(http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/xHillary-hates-dogs-01-800x416.jpg.pagespeed.ic.LojYCO8Hzy.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2016, 12:16:03 PM
But...Trump talked dirty and scares people!

JM&J...I hate this  ::cussing:: planet!  It is filled to overflowing with useless braindead effing sh*theads!

 ::outrage::

Maybe Trump Unleashed will put me in a better mood...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/trump-unleashes-republican-party-furious-tweetstorm-shackles-have-been-taken (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/trump-unleashes-republican-party-furious-tweetstorm-shackles-have-been-taken)

Tearing some Pubbie jerks to pieces and calling them what they truly are - saboteurs working  for Hillary Clinton and the Democrats and low-life ass-coverer's of the First-Lady-Wannabe Rapist Bill Clinton!

 ::cussing::  gloves better come off for all progs in both parties now!!!!!!!!!!

No more Rockefellers ass-raping nominees  (http://iotwreport.com/repeating-the-gops-sabotage-of-barry-goldwater/)with impunity...time go nuclear!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 11, 2016, 08:56:05 PM
  The new polls will show how it went but there are a lot of cowards that now regret their moves.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2016, 12:29:50 PM
  The new polls will show how it went but there are a lot of cowards that now regret their moves.

Who has regrets?  I hear nobody speaking up!

Polls?  DMC has Hitlery up BIG, potty-mouth Trump is cooked, over, done.

Naturally.  Hope they keep thinking that.

Meanwhile, not getting old seeing this!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/300775-hillary-clinton-heckled-by-a-protester-yelling-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/300775-hillary-clinton-heckled-by-a-protester-yelling-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist/)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/300763-bill-clinton-rape-protesters-disrupt-obama-at-campaign-event-for-hillary/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/300763-bill-clinton-rape-protesters-disrupt-obama-at-campaign-event-for-hillary/)

 ::cool::

Here, use this one too people!

(http://regated.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Bill-Clinton-Warning-Poster-11x17.jpg)

And in what is a virtual avalanche of stupid crap pouring out of this cracked demonic head...this one is kinda funny!

Hillary Clinton: Dem Rep. Clyburn “Highest Ranking African-American” In Government…

http://www.weaselzippers.us/300674-hillary-clinton-dem-rep-clyburn-highest-ranking-african-american-in-government/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/300674-hillary-clinton-dem-rep-clyburn-highest-ranking-african-american-in-government/)

 ::saywhat::

 ::hysterical::

Is she saying Obama isn't African-enough?

 ::laughonfloor::

Well, we know who pulls his strings...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/051a34016dd14a027be278bd3d33ff753e77e7fa651369c01787b55b472ab5be.jpg)

And if you can pan the camera back far enough...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/george_soros-prince.jpg)

Next up?  Another lying ass Dindu!

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/444937ba734857eead7d75ef1d3890338b7558ab3d8d3d5c7bb191978290ba80.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 12, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
  I haven't hears a fat lady (yes I said Fat) singing yet. The black hearted bitch can't get away with her sins.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on October 12, 2016, 09:15:10 PM
I always knew the media kissed dem azz. I never thought it could be as deep as it actually is today. It's bad enough watching the obamaites use the IRS, rogue judges, etc to pass their agenda. It is corruption in its worst form when an entire media complex is complicit.

It may be impossible to stem the corrupt tidal wave taking place today and it may take a personality like Trump to slow it. If he somehow beats the cheating and wins the election I can see only one avenue to put the fear back into gov't...Hillary must go to jail. The uproar and the pressure will be monumental and Donald Trump will be on an island to himself,( except for the people) but its the only avenue I see to get some semblance of control. I see no other personality today who could stand the withering pressure, except possibly Trump.

Yea, I know, we are likely screwed either way but Hillary jail time is the first step to normalcy....whatever that is.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2016, 12:21:01 PM
About  ::cussing:: time.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/trump-campaign-warns-bill-clinton-were-going-turn-you-bill-cosby (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/trump-campaign-warns-bill-clinton-were-going-turn-you-bill-cosby)

And get your Daisy ad out there for Clinton's pending war with Russia being ginned up now by Obama!  That hideous bitch already has her "I was a missile control officer" jackoff video out there...time for massive and unrelenting retaliation!!!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 07:12:44 AM
Just...eeeeewww!!!

http://iotwreport.com/man-claims-hillary-forcibly-kissed-him-while-singing-sexual-healing-on-a-flight-in-79/ (http://iotwreport.com/man-claims-hillary-forcibly-kissed-him-while-singing-sexual-healing-on-a-flight-in-79/)

 ::puke::

Batshyt crazy dyke had to be 4 sheets to the wind...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 07:50:58 AM
Heh!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/301126-again-bill-clinton-is-interrupted-multiple-times-by-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist-protesters/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/301126-again-bill-clinton-is-interrupted-multiple-times-by-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist-protesters/)

They are just not going away, bless their hearts!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 07:53:06 AM
And if taking advantage of the Scalia hit doesn't pan out...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/13/twitter-suspends-okeefe-as-he-releases-new-hillary-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/13/twitter-suspends-okeefe-as-he-releases-new-hillary-video/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 12:08:08 PM
Heh!

https://youtu.be/WTylz2WToXw (https://youtu.be/WTylz2WToXw)

Still, I would have had a mushroom cloud at the end with escalating Russophobia preceding it.

And...destroy women Bill abused, get an Ambassador position!

http://freebeacon.com/politics/clintons-gave-ambassadorship-to-man-who-said-debt-owed/ (http://freebeacon.com/politics/clintons-gave-ambassadorship-to-man-who-said-debt-owed/)

More to look forward under a Corrupt Clinton Reign...I guess whatshisface will get a plum appointment for digging up that "pussy" comment on Trump!  Ka-Ching!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 06:06:41 PM
Oops, that backfired!

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/14/donald-trump-to-claim-mexican-billionaire-carlos-slim-behind-nyt-sex-assault-stories-wsj.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/14/donald-trump-to-claim-mexican-billionaire-carlos-slim-behind-nyt-sex-assault-stories-wsj.html)

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/)

But as we all know, the facts, the truth, doesn't matter with progs...the guys are lying and the wymnz allegation stands...ask Juanita etc how that sits!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 14, 2016, 06:11:13 PM
Another Anti-Trump  Ann Rant.  Skip the quote if you don't want to see it. If you haven't read Ann in a while kayfabe = Kuboki Theater - its a reference to professional wrestling - and probalby more accurate.

I think the  strongest evidence against Ann's position is the seemingly genuine opposition to Trump.. but then  not everyone needs to be in the know, do they?
We do know the DNC tried to use the MSM to boost Trump early on ( because he was the one they could win against)  and that Trump was never really a conservative.  The eGOP response to him I think is entirely genuine, because they know that thier time as the controlled opposition party is over. By the end of a Hillary Presidency, there will be only one party. Or dozens  of radioactive holes. Or a bloody civil war.  Maybe all three.  But I tink everyone's mind should be open to the possibility Ann is right so no one is surprised if she is.



Quote
Trump’s Motivation Explained

B.) I explained this on a radio interview a few weeks ago, and have explained it to people in person several times, and each time the people I have explained it to have declared it a revelation, which “explains everything”.  So, I will put it in writing here.

This kayfabe presidential campaign by Trump is about one thing:
Increasing the value of the Trump Brand.

It is NOT about Trump becoming “president” of the former-United States.  Never was, folks.  It was pre-arranged with the Clintons as a means of re-installing the Clinton mafia in The White House while allowing Trump to evolve the Trump brand and increase the value of the Trump brand by billions of dollars.

Donald Trump began by cultivating his persona as a real estate tycoon and casino mogul in the 1980s. But that is a somewhat limited market, and also very cyclical and risky. After all, building giant mirror-penis skyscrapers and slapping your name on them in gold-mirror caps can only take narcissist so far.  He then decided to expand and elevate his persona by moving into entertainment – specifically reality shows – in the 1990s and 2000s. While risky and cyclical like real estate, entertainment is far LESS risky once a given entertainer has established a foothold.  Trump did that with “The Apprentice”.

Being “friends” with the Clintons, Trump saw how lucrative the political racketeering paradigm was, specifically the “speaking fees”, which are just extremely thinly-veiled bribes and payola, and the “Clinton Global Initiative”, which is a straight-up money laundering racket. But, in order for Trump to break into the world of ten-figure political racketeering, he needed to evolve his brand even further.  He needed to evolve into “Donald Trump: Global Statesman”.

And THAT, my dears, is why he brokered and concocted the kayfabe with the Clintons that you are now seeing. Was Trump inspired in all of this after his dabble in Professional Wrestling a few years ago?  Were his business dealings with on again-off again billionaire Vince McMahon (owner of WWF/WWE Pro Wrestling) his inspiration for the kayfabe “presidential” run? NOTHING would surprise me at this point.

Now to the “winning and losing”.  This is all fake.  Clinton is going to “win” and was always going to win no matter what because the elections themselves are a sham. I know this is really, really hard for Americans to come to grips with, but these national-level elections are all bullsh*t and have been for a while.  Donald Trump wants NOTHING TO DO with being “president” of the former-United States.  Think about it.  What person in their right mind would want to be “president” over the next four years, as the catastrophic destabilization, the aggressive execution of the Cloward-Piven strategy comes to full flower?  As I said from the beginning, the Obama regime would incite a race-based civil war inside the U.S., while simultaneously destabilizing the rest of the world AND reforming and arming a new islamic Caliphate. Check.  The Obama regime also executed the Cloward-Piven Strategy upon the U.S. economy AND healthcare delivery system. This was done in a two-pronged attack, namely Obamacare and the dissolving of the Mexican border.  Check.

Don’t you realize that if Trump “won” and was “president” for the next four years that he would be blamed for all of the sh*t-hitting-the-fan that is going to happen? It would DESTROY HIS BRAND.  Now, if Trump “loses”, as was always the plan betwixt him and the Clintons, he STILL has all of the cache of being a nominee for “president”, and still gets his brand transformed into that of “global statesman”, but instead of being blamed for all of the “sh*t hitting the fan” over the next four years, will instead be able to sit back, go on TeeVee, and EVERY TIME SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENS, Trump will say, “If I had been President, that wouldn’t have happened. If I had been President, I would have prevented that….” And thus his brand will increase ALL THE MORE with each coming catastrophe. Ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching.  Folks, Trump only truly wins, if he “loses”.

I’d also like to point out that this brand evolution involves not just Donald Trump, but it is also pretty clear that he is setting up his kids, especially Ivanka and Eric, to eventually enter the political kayfabe as characters in their own right.  Trump is 70 years old, and understands estate planning well.  Hell, if the Clintons can set Chelsea up, who has ZERO charisma, then Trump knows he can position Ivanka and Eric to be bigtime players in the political kayfabe.
Trump’s Rhetoric Is All a Farce

“But, but, but… Trump is saying all the right things!  He MUST be on side!”

No.

Okay.  Think of it this way.  You all think I am a person of above-average intelligence, right? (Insert snarky comment here….)  Do you think, that IF I WANTED TO, I could fake being a leftist?  Do you think that I am intelligent enough to know the left’s talking points, their priorities, what they WANT TO HEAR, and that if I wanted to, I could fake being a leftist?  Of course I could.  One of the hallmarks of a good rhetorician is knowing and being able to front-run the opposite side’s arguments and talking points.  The is also one of the hallmarks of a good military leader – being able to anticipate the enemy’s tactics.  Now, Trump is no genius, but he isn’t dumb.  So, do you honestly think it is totally beyond him to sit down and say, “Alright.  What do I need to say, what talking points do I need to push, in order to ingratiate myself to the political right in the U.S. today?”

A.) Close the borders, “build a wall”
B.) Pro-life, but not TOO pro-life
C.) “Anti-establishment”

Folks, here are some Trump quotes from within the last 20 years.  Leopards don’t change their spots this radically unless there is a 10-figure payoff on the deal….

1) “I probably identify more as Democrat.”

2) “I’ve been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”

3) “Nancy — you’re the best. Congrats. [signature]”
—Handwritten note to Speaker Nancy Pelosi

4) “Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States.”

5) “I’m totally pro-choice.”

6) “I want to see the abortion issue removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors.”

7) “I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care.”

8) “The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans… We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan.”

9) “By imposing a one-time 14.25 percent net-worth tax on the richest individuals and trusts, we can put America on sound financial footing for the next century.”

10) “I think he [Obama] has a chance to go down as a great president.”

Folks, all of this is kayfabe – professional wrestling kayfabe, except without the wrestling.  The Clintons don’t care about Trump’s kayfabe attacks because they know it is all part of the show, and like all Diabolical Narcissist psychopaths, THEY GET OFF ON HAVING THEIR MALEFACTIONS AND CRIMES EXPOSED, AND THEN WATCHING AS PEOPLE NOT ONLY DON’T CONFRONT MUCH LESS PROSECUTE THEM, BUT ACTIVELY SUPPORT AND DEFEND THEM.

If I may be a tad crude for a moment, Bill Clinton has gotten far more sexual pleasure off of the exposure and acceptance of his history of rapes and consensual hook-ups than he ever got out of the actual rapes and hook-ups themselves. And the same goes for Trump.  Trump is getting off on that 2005 “pussy grabbing” tape being released as he watches countless people COME RUNNING TO HIS DEFENSE.  This is heroin-laced catnip for these Diabolical Narcissist psychopaths whose greatest pleasure is telling themselves, “I’m so f***ing brilliant these people will defend me and kiss my ass EVEN MORE when they see what a f***ing monster I am and what I’ve done.”

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2016, 06:33:10 PM
Might be a tad too much tainted bunker air for me to go along with going that deep into pitch black rabbit hole with no flashlight or anything but my own (sometimes scary) thoughts...

I could be completely full of crap, but I am not seeing that...

Another point against would be Donald's ego...I just don't see him stooping to court jester for Clinton...I mean what could they possibly offer him that has any value to him?  A Cabinet post?  Who wants to rule any department in a crumbling empire?  Donald might not be free of influence or duplcity...but he isn't Clinton stupid either.

If the Dem was somebody less batshyt crazy who won't make the economy worse, tyranny worse and start a nuclear war with Russia...maybe...but I don't see Donald being this reckless or this stupid.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 14, 2016, 08:30:38 PM
Speaking of Ann, did you notice we got a link from her site a week or so ago?
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Post by: Pandora on October 14, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
I'm not buying it either.
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Post by: Weisshaupt on October 14, 2016, 10:29:47 PM
...I just don't see him stooping to court jester for Clinton...I mean what could they possibly offer him that has any value to him?

Ann Answered that - it helps build his brand.. he can go on the talk circuit,  do speaking engagements, and so on.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 14, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
I'm not buying it either.

Not sure I do either. Not sure she is wrong however. This was my gut feel when Trump started running. But hey,  it doesn't matter all that much.  ell, Russia might even take care of it over the next week.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 14, 2016, 11:13:34 PM
I'm not buying it either.

Not sure I do either. Not sure she is wrong however. This was my gut feel when Trump started running. But hey,  it doesn't matter all that much.  ell, Russia might even take care of it over the next week.



One thing that is clear is that if we are to ever regain control of our own country, the federal government has to be broken.  Somehow, some way.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 15, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
I'm not buying it either.

Not sure I do either. Not sure she is wrong however. This was my gut feel when Trump started running. But hey,  it doesn't matter all that much.  ell, Russia might even take care of it over the next week.



One thing that is clear is that if we are to ever regain control of our own country, the federal government has to be broken.  Somehow, some way.

This is it, boiled down to its essence.

My perception of what this nation should look like, how it should operate, and what it should stand for may differ from Ann's but she must - MUST realize that there is no other viable option for righting us than through the Trump Revolution.

Yes, I an keenly aware that it may all be a sham. My disdain of politicians in particular and my wariness of people in general is richly earned by years of being the recipient of treachery and deceit. Again, I say without a nanosecond of doubt that there is no other option.

Which of the other pubbie candidates even ventured near the solutions that are critically necessary for our nation's survival? That would be none. And Cliton? The most corrupt candidate ever to seek that office? Her presidency promises a short, brutal, violent end to our experiment in Republicanism.

With Trump there is an outside chance for redemption. Otherwise you may as well spend what you have - get drunk and party hearty. It's all going to disappear anyway. Personally, I'd rather go out fighting.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 15, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
she must - MUST realize that there is no other viable option for righting us than through the Trump Revolution.
..... Personally, I'd rather go out fighting.

Ann's option is fighting. I know some here despair of there ever being a "fight" - but there will be one.  At some point they will come for Ann in her van down by the river, just like they came for LaVoy Finicum.  Oregon Wildlife refuge was a Harper's ferry event. Doomed to failure by timing , tactics and circumstances, but a harbinger of the vast divide growing in America. 

If one were to write off John Brown  as a crazy nut, as MANY in the North and South did at the time,  one might think  there would never be a fight- or that the fight had been settled. . Browns Raid was a year and half before the election that forced State successions, as this one probably will as well. .  No matter if Trump or Hillary wins, at least of a third of the population will reject them as leader. I suspect this will mean near continuous riots, vandalism and law breaking from the left if Trump is in office - including bureaucrats at the IRA, EPA, FBI and so on.  While a Clinton Presidency is very likely to result in policies that push us toward civil war between City  and country and very possibly State or even county successions.

I personally think a full blown civil war ( or World War III) is far more likely under Clinton, so to that degree I concur that the "Trump Revolution"  is the only hope of settling our differences peacefully and "righting us".  However, "Righting us " ould include getting rid of , changing or somehow neutralizing the Anti-Freedom Statist  fascists  in Universities, Government Agencies, Media  and so on and establishing a culture that will support the Constitution instead of tearing it down.  Trump may hinder the leftists a bit , but he isn't going to put an end to anything they are trying to do, other than perhaps - the uninhibited invasion of America by hostile foreigners. e certainly can't heal the cultural divide and will probably exacerbate it.

Take a look at those  comments from Zerohedge on the GDP thread.  Its not just us here  who would see an upside to American cities being nuked. Its no longer our country after all, is it?  We are as much aliens here now as the illegal immigrants  are. Clinton's deplotable's remark  shows you  that they fell the same about us. They ate Trumps rhetoric about kicking illegals out because they broke the law , but they are chomping at the bit to kick those like us out - for being law abiding citizens , or re-educate us or kill us. The left always arrives there when they come to power. ALWAYS. And they will see themselves as  compassionate - because they will give you the opportunity to convert before they kill you.  "we aren't telling people what to think River. We are showing them how."

So yes,  the Fight will come.  It may  come driveway by driveway and freedom loving people may lose depending on exactly when that fights starts and how.  But you will have the opportunity to go out fighting if you take it.  The left, as I have stated before,  loses, even if they "win."  A worldwide "safe space"  with Skittles and Unicorns and Fluffy bunnies will not happen, even if they kill every one of us evil bitter clinging buzz harshers. Their battle is with reality, and they will lose. They make take all of the human race along with them when they do it, but they will lose.
 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
...I just don't see him stooping to court jester for Clinton...I mean what could they possibly offer him that has any value to him?

Ann Answered that - it helps build his brand.. he can go on the talk circuit,  do speaking engagements, and so on.

Just not convincing, he can work his brand under any circumstance...Clinton offers nothing...unless you count taint by association.  Ann can and should do better.  But sometimes people get too wedded to their premise.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on October 15, 2016, 06:06:24 PM
I couldn't get past the part about Trump building his brand by doing this.  He's KILLING his brand by doing this, giving him more cred in my opinion.  Just look at what your typical retard from the Poli Sci department is saying about Trump supporters.  That they're trailer trash.  Blue collar.  Meth addicts.  Racists.  Deplorables.  The Trump brand was exactly the opposite.  It will never recover as rich virtue signalers will avoid the Trump brand like the plague.

Like him or not, Trump really has given this his all, for just that he has my respect.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
Yup, stay deplorable my friends! 😎
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Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2016, 07:37:44 PM
I couldn't get past the part about Trump building his brand by doing this.  He's KILLING his brand by doing this, giving him more cred in my opinion.  Just look at what your typical retard from the Poli Sci department is saying about Trump supporters.  That they're trailer trash.  Blue collar.  Meth addicts.  Racists.  Deplorables.  The Trump brand was exactly the opposite.  It will never recover as rich virtue signalers will avoid the Trump brand like the plague.

Like him or not, Trump really has given this his all, for just that he has my respect.


I agree.  A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that since so much out there cannot be taken at face value that nothing can be taken at face value.  Not true.  Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on October 16, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Yup, stay deplorable my friends! 😎

   I am and wear it as a badge of honor!
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Post by: John Florida on October 16, 2016, 09:10:34 AM
 I was wondering when Gloria Alred would show up and here she is.
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Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
I can't see that name...or face  ::puke::  without thinking "Alldead".
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Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2016, 07:25:04 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/301509-newt-gingrich-trump-supporters-should-monitor-polling-stations/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/301509-newt-gingrich-trump-supporters-should-monitor-polling-stations/)

True enough.

I think my precinct(s) are 99.5% free of chicanery, but deeper in the inner ring and certainly the urban bullseye...pretty sure they're a mess.  IIRC the boxes of ballots in a democrat operative's trunk was Hennepin County...
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Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2016, 11:49:19 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/301667-elizabeth-warren-clucks-like-a-chicken-to-mock-donald-trump-bawk-bawk-bawk/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/301667-elizabeth-warren-clucks-like-a-chicken-to-mock-donald-trump-bawk-bawk-bawk/)

Seriously?

 ::hysterical::

WTF?!  Leave it to batshyt effing progs to do second grade playground behavior when they don't get their way!

What a bunch of infantile losers!

 ::laughonfloor::

Hey Fauxahontas, how about you release your full medical records along with Hillary's?!  Oh, and pee in a cup with her too so we can test what you're on!

 ::rolllaughing::
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Post by: AlanS on October 17, 2016, 04:36:33 PM
That's odd. She usually quacks like a duck.
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Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2016, 07:09:22 PM
I can't see that name...or face  ::puke::  without thinking "Alldead".


I call her Gloria All Red.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2016, 06:58:37 AM
I can't see that name...or face  ::puke::  without thinking "Alldead".


I call her Gloria All Red.

Yeah, that ones been around a while too...

I just wish someone would shine sunlight on them and make them all burst into flames and be gone forever!

 ::praying::
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Post by: Weisshaupt on October 18, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
via adaptive curmudgeon - One of those Cracked articles with lots of entertaining pictures and funny captions.. but here is just the text - emphasis mine.


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How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind  (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/)



I'm going to explain the Donald Trump phenomenon in three movies. And then some text. There's this universal shorthand that epic adventure movies use to tell the good guys from the bad. The good guys are simple folk from the countryside while the bad guys are decadent assholes who live in the city and wear stupid clothes: In Star Wars, Luke is a farm boy  while the bad guys live in a shiny space station. In Braveheart, the main character (Dennis Braveheart) is a simple farmer  and the dastardly Prince sh*thead lives in a luxurious castle and wears fancy, foppish clothes: The theme expresses itself in several ways -- primitive vs. advanced, tough vs. delicate, masculine vs. feminine, poor vs. rich, pure vs. decadent, traditional vs. weird. All of it is code for rural vs. urban. That tense divide between the two doesn't exist because of these movies, obviously. These movies used it as shorthand because the divide already existed. We country folk are programmed to hate the prissy elites. That brings us to Trump.

6. It's Not About Red And Blue States -- It's About The Country Vs. The City


I was born and raised in Trump country. My family are Trump people. If I hadn't moved away and gotten this ridiculous job, I'd be voting for him. I know I would. See, political types talk about "red states" and "blue states" (where red = Republican/conservative and blue = Democrat/progressive), but forget about states. If you want to understand the Trump phenomenon, dig up the much more detailed county map. Here's how the nation voted county by county in the 2012 election -- again, red is Republican: The country is lava. Holy cockslaps, that makes it look like Obama's blue party is some kind of fringe political faction that struggles to get 20 percent of the vote. The blue parts, however, are more densely populated -- they're the cities. In the upper left, you see the blue Seattle/Tacoma area, lower down is San Francisco and then L.A. The blue around the dick-shaped Lake Michigan is made of cities like Minneapolis, Milwaukee, and Chicago. In the northeast is, of course, New York and Boston, leading down into Philadelphia, which leads into a blue band which connects a bunch of southern cities like Charlotte and Atlanta. Blue islands in an ocean of red. The cities are less than 4 percent of the land mass, but 62 percent of the population and easily 99 percent of the popular culture. Our movies, shows, songs, and news all radiate out from those blue islands. And if you live in the red, that f**king sucks. See, I'm from a "blue" state -- Illinois -- but the state isn't blue. Freaking Chicago is blue. I'm from a tiny town in one of the blood-red areas:As a kid, visiting Chicago was like, well, Katniss visiting the capital. Or like Zoey visiting the city of the future in this ridiculous book. "Their ways are strange." And the whole goddamned world revolves around them. Every TV show is about LA or New York, maybe with some Chicago or Baltimore thrown in. When they did make a show about us, we were jokes -- either wide-eyed, naive fluffballs (Parks And Recreation, and before that, Newhart) or filthy murderous mutants (True Detective, and before that, Deliverance). You could feel the arrogance from hundreds of miles away. "Nothing that happens outside the city matters!" they say at their cocktail parties, blissfully unaware of where their food is grown. Hey, remember when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans? Kind of weird that a big hurricane hundreds of miles across managed to snipe one specific city and avoid everything else. To watch the news (or the multiple movies and TV shows about it), you'd barely hear about how the storm utterly steamrolled rural Mississippi, killing 238 people and doing an astounding $125 billion in damage. But who cares about those people, right? What's newsworthy about a bunch of toothless hillbillies crying over a flattened trailer? New Orleans is culturally important. It matters. To those ignored, suffering people, Donald Trump is a brick chucked through the window of the elites. "Are you assholes listening now?"

5 City People Are From A Different Goddamned Planet

"But isn't this really about race? Aren't Trump supporters just a bunch of racists? Don't they hate cities because that's where the brown people live?" Look, we're going to get actual Nazis in the comment section of this article. Not "calling them Nazis for argument points" Nazis, but actual "Swastikas in their avatars, rooted against Indiana Jones" Nazis. Those people exist. But what I can say, from personal experience, is that the racism of my youth was always one step removed. I never saw a family member, friend, or classmate be mean to the actual black people we had in town. We worked with them, played video games with them, waved to them when they passed. What I did hear was several million comments about how if you ever ventured into the city, winding up in the "wrong neighborhood" meant you'd get dragged from your car, raped, and burned alive. Looking back, I think the idea was that the local minorities were fine ... as long as they acted exactly like us.  If you'd asked me at the time, I'd have said the fear and hatred wasn't of people with brown skin, but of that specific tribe they have in Chicago -- you know, the guys with the weird slang, music and clothes, the dope fiends who murder everyone they see. It was all part of the bizarro nature of the cities, as perceived from afar -- a combination of hyper-aggressive savages and frivolous white elites. Their ways are strange. And it wasn't like pop culture was trying to talk me out of it:It's not just perception, either -- the stats back up the fact that these are parallel universes. People living in the countryside are twice as likely to own a gun and will probably get married younger. People in the urban "blue" areas talk faster and walk faster. They are more likely to be drug abusers but less likely to be alcoholics. The blues are less likely to own land and, most importantly, they're less likely to be Evangelical Christians. In the small towns, this often gets expressed as "They don't share our values!" and my progressive friends love to scoff at that. "What, like illiteracy and homophobia?!?!"

Nope. Everything.



4. Trends Always Start In The Cities -- And Not All Of Them Are Good


The cities are always living in the future. I remember when our little town got our first Chinese restaurant and, 20 years later, its first fancy coffee shop. All of this stuff had turned up in movies (set in L.A., of course) decades earlier. I remember watching '80s movies and mocking the "Valley Girl" stereotypes -- young girls from, like, California who would, like, say, "like" in between every third word. Twenty years later, you can hear me doing the same in every Cracked podcast. The cancer started in L.A. and spread to the rest of America. Well, the perception back then was that those city folks were all turning atheist, abandoning church for their bisexual sex parties. That, we were told, was literally a sign of the Apocalypse. Not just due to the spiritual consequences (which were dire), but the devastation that would come to the culture. I couldn't imagine any rebuttal. In that place, at that time, the church was everything. Don't take my word for it -- listen to the experts:

(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/4/1/577541_v1.jpg)

Church was where you made friends, met girls, networked for jobs, got social support. The poor could get food and clothes there, couples could get advice on their marriages, addicts could try to get clean. But now we're seeing a startling decline in Christianity among the general population, the godless disease having spread alongside Valley Girl talk. So according to Fox News, what's the result of those decadent, atheist, amoral snobs in the cities having turned their noses up at God?

Chaos.

The fabric has broken down, they say, just as predicted. And what rural Americans see on the news today is a sneak peek at their tomorrow. The savages are coming. Blacks riot, Muslims set bombs, gays spread AIDS, Mexican cartels behead children, atheists tear down Christmas trees. Meanwhile, those liberal Lena Dunhams in their $5,000-a-month apartments sip wine and say, "But those white Christians are the real problem!" Terror victims scream in the street next to their own severed limbs, and the response from the elites is to cry about how men should be allowed to use women's restrooms and how it's cruel to keep chickens in cages. Madness. Their heads are so far up their asses that they can't tell up from down. Basic, obvious truths that have gone unquestioned for thousands of years now get laughed at and shouted down -- the fact that hard work is better than dependence on government, that children do better with both parents in the picture, that peace is better than rioting, that a strict moral code is better than blithe hedonism, that humans tend to value things they've earned more than what they get for free, that not getting exploded by a bomb is better than getting exploded by a bomb.

Or as they say out in the country, "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining."

The foundation upon which America was undeniably built -- family, faith, and hard work -- had been deemed unfashionable and small-minded. Those snooty elites up in their ivory tower laughed as they kicked away that foundation, and then wrote 10,000-word thinkpieces blaming the builders for the ensuing collapse.


3  The Rural Areas Have Been Beaten To sh*t


Don't message me saying all those things I listed are wrong. I know they're wrong. Or rather, I think they're wrong, because I now live in a blue county and work for a blue industry. I know the Good Old Days of the past were built on slavery and segregation, I know that entire categories of humanity experienced religion only as a boot on their neck. I know that those "traditional families" involved millions of women trapped in kitchens and bad marriages. I know gays lived in fear and abortions were back-alley affairs.

I know the changes were for the best.

Translation:  I know better, but I now work for Cracked and I have to say this to keep my job. If I believed this leftist BS , I would never have written this article in the first place.. so watch me genuflect to the obviously superior culture or they will oh so tolerantly fire me.  This is the most hurmours part of the piece in my opinion, and the leftists won't even notice.


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Try telling that to anybody who lives in Trump country. They're getting the sh*t kicked out of them. I know, I was there. Step outside of the city, and the suicide rate among young people f**king doubles. The recession pounded rural communities, but all the recovery went to the cities. The rate of new businesses opening in rural areas has utterly collapsed. See, rural jobs used to be based around one big local business -- a factory, a coal mine, etc. When it dies, the town dies. Where I grew up, it was an oil refinery closing that did us in. I was raised in the hollowed-out shell of what the town had once been. The roof of our high school leaked when it rained. Cities can make up for the loss of manufacturing jobs with service jobs -- small towns cannot. That model doesn't work below a certain population density. If you don't live in one of these small towns, you can't understand the hopelessness. The vast majority of possible careers involve moving to the city, and around every city is now a hundred-foot wall called "Cost of Living." Let's say you're a smart kid making $8 an hour at Walgreen's and aspire to greater things. Fine, get ready to move yourself and your new baby into a 700-square-foot apartment for $1,200 a month, and to then pay double what you're paying now for utilities, groceries, and babysitters. Unless, of course, you're planning to move to one of "those" neighborhoods (hope you like being set on fire!). In a city, you can plausibly aspire to start a band, or become an actor, or get a medical degree. You can actually have dreams. In a small town, there may be no venues for performing arts aside from country music bars and churches. There may only be two doctors in town -- aspiring to that job means waiting for one of them to retire or die. You open the classifieds and all of the job listings will be for fast food or convenience stores. The "downtown" is just the corpses of mom and pop stores left shattered in Walmart's blast crater, the "suburbs" are trailer parks. There are parts of these towns that look post-apocalyptic. I'm telling you, the hopelessness eats you alive. And if you dare complain, some liberal elite will pull out their iPad and type up a rant about your racist white privilege. Already, someone has replied to this with a comment saying, "You should try living in a ghetto as a minority!" Exactly. To them, it seems like the plight of poor minorities is only used as a club to bat away white cries for help. Meanwhile, the rate of rural white suicides and overdoses skyrockets. sh*t, at least politicians act like they care about the inner cities.

2 Everyone Lashes Out When They Don't Have A Voice

It really does feel like the worst of both worlds: all the ravages of poverty, but none of the sympathy. "Blacks burn police cars, and those liberal elites say it's not their fault because they're poor. My son gets jailed and fired over a baggie of meth, and those same elites make jokes about his missing teeth!" You're everyone's punching bag, one of society's last remaining safe comedy targets. They take it hard. These are people who come from a long line of folks who took pride in looking after themselves. Where I'm from, you weren't a real man unless you could repair a car, patch a roof, hunt your own meat, and defend your home from an intruder. It was a source of shame to be dependent on anyone -- especially the government.You mowed your own lawn and fixed your own pipes when they leaked, you hauled your own firewood in your own pickup truck. (Mine was a 1994 Ford Ranger! The current owner says it still runs!)

Not like those hipsters in their tiny apartments, or "those people" in their public housing projects, waiting for the landlord any time something breaks, knowing if things get too bad they can just pick up and move. When you don't own anything, it's all somebody else's problem. "They probably don't pay taxes, either! Just treating America itself as a subsidized apartment they can trash!" The rural folk with the Trump signs in their yards say their way of life is dying, and you smirk and say what they really mean is that blacks and gays are finally getting equal rights and they hate it. But I'm telling you, they say their way of life is dying because their way of life is dying. It's not their imagination. No movie about the future portrays it as being full of traditional families, hunters, and coal mines. Well, except for Hunger Games, and that was depicted as an apocalypse. So yes, they vote for the guy promising to put things back the way they were, the guy who'd be a wake-up call to the blue islands. They voted for the brick through the window. It was a vote of desperation.

1 Assholes Are Heroes

"But Trump is objectively a piece of sh*t!" you say. "He insults people, he objectifies women, and cheats whenever possible! And he's not an everyman; he's a smarmy, arrogant billionaire!" Wait, are you talking about Donald Trump, or this guy:

(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/5/2/577552_v1.jpg)

You've never rooted for somebody like that? Someone powerful who gives your enemies the insults they deserve? Somebody with big fun appetites who screws up just enough to make them relatable? Like Dr. House or Walter White? Or any of the several million renegade cop characters who can break all the rules because they get sh*t done? Who only get sh*t done because they don't care about the rules? "But those are fictional characters!" Okay, what about all those millionaire left-leaning talk show hosts? You think they keep their insults classy? Tune into any bit about Chris Christie and start counting down the seconds until the fat joke. Google David Letterman's sex scandals. But it's okay, because they're on our side, and everybody wants an asshole on their team -- a spiked bat to smash their enemies with. That's all Trump is. The howls of elite outrage are like the sounds of bombs landing on the enemy's fortress. The louder the better. Already some of you have gotten angry, feeling this gut-level revulsion at any attempt to excuse or even understand these people. After all, they're hardly people, right? Aren't they just a mass of ignorant, rageful, crude, cursing, spitting subhumans? Gee, I hope not. I have to hug a bunch of them at Thanksgiving. And when I do, it will be with the knowledge that if I hadn't moved away, I'd be on the other side of the fence, leaving nasty comments on this article the alternate universe version of me wrote. It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables. But you might as well take time to try to understand them, because I'm telling you, they'll still be around long after Trump is gone.

And they are armed. They won't forget. And They will not be forgiving.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2016, 11:40:42 AM
All that Prog-Speak jibberish is going to go so swell for them as they are being chased down streets and hunted down like vermin...

Look?!  There's one!   ::machinegun::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2016, 12:05:42 PM
Jeesh...election days is still weeks away and MarkOfCain can't be eager enough to eff over people!

Backtracks On SCOTUS: ‘Of Course’ He’ll Vote On Hillary’s Nominee…

http://www.weaselzippers.us/301821-mcrino-backtracks-on-scotus-of-course-hell-vote-on-hillarys-nominee/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/301821-mcrino-backtracks-on-scotus-of-course-hell-vote-on-hillarys-nominee/)

 ::mooning::

With traitors like this, who needs any other enemies?

And, well...lookie here...more cheatin'!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/301731-texas-investigating-allegations-of-voter-fraud-in-tarrant-county-fort-worth/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/301731-texas-investigating-allegations-of-voter-fraud-in-tarrant-county-fort-worth/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 18, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
I get the sense that this was a sincere effort on the part of the author to play it right down the middle. If that is true then kudos to him.

As is typically the case the comments serve as a test of the readers' comprehension as well as attitude. The self-identified righties generally approved of the piece (even if they had a quibble) and complemented the author. The comments from the lefties ran a broader range from similar general approval to sneering disgust. The gratuitous insults were almost exclusively from the left as well.

If anything, this is an exercise in leftist obliviousness. They don't (can't?) see themselves when described critically. No matter how one tries to soft-soap it they get in a snit. The meat of the piece revolves around the notion of tolerance. Tolerance for cultural differences, tolerance for ideas, and tolerance for each other. Each side employs a broad-brush as they accuse the other of intolerance in an all-in "you're a worthless POS being because you don't like peas" sorta way (full disclosure: I don't care for peas). What this op-ed is pointing out is that the right has become tolerance-fatigued (while the left has been intolerant all along) and is increasingly pushing back against the leftists.

The difference between the two camps is that, when the left disapproves it says, "Change your ways and agree with me or we will use the awesome power of government to crush you!". When the right disapproves it says, "Agree with me or get the F away from me!"

Take any topic where there is division (and nowadays that is every topic!) and the left not only demands tolerance for the most disturbing and dysfunctional crap, but they insist that we embrace it (see: bake a cake). They have their way at the expense of everyone else getting a say.

Where I work they have break rooms with communal coffee makers - the 14 to 20 cup variety. Most coffee machine venders offer pre-packaged packets of coffee that represent the mainstream blend. Not too rich - not too weak. There's almost always some klown who insists on throwing two packets into the hopper and making the most god-awful mud. I would come into the break room and pour a cup only to spit it out (as would nearly everyone else). So I poured it down the sink and made a fresh pot - using the approved measure. He would come along a pour out mine and brew another double-dose pot.

After about a month of this I decided to bring a thermos with me. I would make normal coffee and fill my thermos. Every once in a while that meant pouring out his to make mine (I usually tried to get in early so that I could make mine first). Then the A-hole could make whatever the F he wanted. Someone (I wonder who) complained to the office manager that I was stealing coffee (brewed coffee in my thermos) and she confronted me, telling me that I couldn't do that.

So I've gone back to pouring out the coffee and making my single cup even if the rest of the pot (essentially two full pots) goes down the drain. The other office drones are too timid to say anything -  even when they prefer the normal blend. The discord is palpable, everyone is angry or upset, and I get to share the "you are a meanie" limelight with Mr. Mud.

That is a microcosm of life around a leftist. You can't live with them and you can't kill them......yet.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 18, 2016, 02:12:05 PM
Ugh. I didn't want to go into the comments..

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I'm a left-wing french-canadian working in telecom in a bilingual university town, but I was born in a catholic, french-speaking fishing town.

Here, the narrative in the (Montreal-based) media is that the acadians and french-canadians were oppressed by the anglos, poor, under-educated by a power-hungry catholic church until the 1960s...then the quiet revolution happened and made everything better...


...wrong. The Quiet Revolution happened and made Montreal (and Moncton) better. In the country side, it was the rise of factory farming and the fishing and lumber industry tanked. People went from having the choice between being a lumberjack or a fisherman to being in the oil industry or on welfare.

I can afford to speak against the oil industry, I don't work for them and likely never will! People who don't have any other choice can't afford to.

Like I tell my liberal friends, don't lecture someone who can't afford baloney on the evils of non-humane, non-organic meat. The only thing you will teach him is that the pig's living conditions are more important than people's! When you can't have a job because of where you live and have three children to feed, things like "being able to live as a woman even though you have a penis" seem like very, veeery foolish wants, not the needs they are.

Yeah,  forcing other people to cow-tow to your delusions about reality is never going to be a legitimate "need".  ( And yes, demanding to live as a woman when Reality made you a man is a delusion) My chosen pronouns are  Master, MiLord, Your Highness , or Your majesty. Think this guy would use them?Because they are equivalent to the ones they are trying to make us use.. to  genuflect to them and their dogma, and using government force to do it. 
I need to be treated as an attack helicopter, even though I am not one.  They are really foolish wants moron - based on the premise that you have the right to force other people to bow down to you and your foolish crap, and having a good job and a full belly and a higher standard of living isn't ever going to change the fact that it is foolish to deny the fact that REALITY made you a man, and even more foolish to expect others to support you in that folly.




Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 18, 2016, 05:49:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnzkqVIu_Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnzkqVIu_Q)
This is a joke, right?  Right? I mean it has to be a parody. I has to be .
The sad thing is I have to look and I am not 100%  sure to begin with. Especially after this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY5RbTz281M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY5RbTz281M)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 18, 2016, 08:27:16 PM
The good news is the Russian ICBMs will be targeting Washington DC, New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco first.  Leftists turning into radioactive vapor.  I can't pretend that isn't a gratifying fantasy.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2016, 08:29:29 PM
I wonder if it is too late to make up a bunch of "I laze traitors for Putin" t-shirts and make a few bucks?   ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 19, 2016, 12:18:08 AM
The good news is the Russian ICBMs will be targeting Washington DC, New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco first.  Leftists turning into radioactive vapor.  I can't pretend that isn't a gratifying fantasy.

Yeah, I have been doing some research on what size warheads are headed our way .. annd playing with nukemap (http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/#) with the results.

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/overblown-russias-empty-nuclear-sabre-rattling/ (https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/overblown-russias-empty-nuclear-sabre-rattling/)

while the article talks about deterrence, that assumes Obama would use the weapons. I think Putin could easily gamble the pussy wouldn't retaliate. After all,  he hates America, why kill good commies over it?

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Russia has an array of strategic modernization programs underway. It has launched the first three of what are planned to be eight Borey-class ballistic missile submarines, which carry the new Bulava SLBM. Russia is also deploying the SS-27 Topol-M ICBM and its multiple-warhead variant, the RS-24 Yars, and plans to begin deployment of the RS-26 ICBM in 2016...

Defense spending crashed, and the Russian military bought little in the way of new strategic weapons in the 1990s and early 2000s. Many missiles, such as the SS-18 and SS-19 ICBMs—which today still carry about one-half of Russia’s deployed strategic warheads—have reached and passed their service warranty dates.


so according to this site (http://missilethreat.csis.org/russia/),  we have:

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Bulava ( SS-N-32)  - The missile is expected to carry 10 MIRV warheads, with a yield of 100-160 kT, to a maximum distance of 8,300 km. The missile would likely carry decoys and according to Russian officials, the missile’s RV’s are capable of in-flight maneuverability and re-targeting to out maneuver any enemy defense.6 The RVs have an expected accuracy around 250 to 300 m CEP

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SS-27/RS-24 YARS -  The SS-27’s RV is capable of making evasive maneuvers as it approaches its target. It likely also carries countermeasures and decoys to decrease the chances of interception by missile defenses. The missile is shielded against radiation, electromagnetic interference and physical disturbance; whilst previous missiles could be disabled by detonating a nuclear warhead within ten kilometers. It is reported to typically be equipped with a 550 kT yield nuclear warhead; however, there an unconfirmed report suggest a yield of 1 MT has been achieved, as well as the placement of up to six MIRV warheads. It uses a Post-Boost Vehicle (PBV) system to deploy its warhead(s) using a digital inertial navigation system with a GLOSNASS (equivalent to Global Position Satellite) receiver.  In 2016, Russia has 18 road-mobile SS-27 launchers deployed, along with 60 more deployed in fixed silos.

And the older, shelf life may not be so good stuff

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ss-18  - he Mod 5 and Mod 6 entered into service in 1988, only the Mod 6 remains operational as of 2016 The Mod 5 contained a single re-entry vehicle with an 8 MT warhead and an accuracy of 500 m CEP, with a range is 16,000 km.The Mod 6 has 10 MIRV, with each warhead having a 500-750 kT yield and an accuracy of 500 m CEP. The range is 11,000 km. It uses two tiers on its instrument section to house its 10 MIRVs. 11 The Mod 5 and Mod 6 both received improved protection against nuclear warhead effects, improved decoys and penetration aids, increased MIRV coverage, and a rapid re-targeting capability. The remaining SS-18 Mod 6s are expected to remain in service until its successor, the SS-X-30 (RS-28 Sarmat), becomes operational

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ss-19 - The USSR began deployment of the Mod 3 in 1980. By 1983 all deployed SS-19 Mod 1 and 2 missiles were of the Mod 3 variety. The Mod 2 had a throw weight of 4,350 kg made up of six MIRVed warheads, with a nuclear yield between 550 to 750 kT. Like the previous Mods, the Mod 3 had a maximum range of 10,000 km with a somewhat reduced, but more reliable accuracy 900 m CEP.

As you can see, a realistic number for a bomb is 100-800KT. Maybe 1 Megaton at the most.  A 1 Megaton bomb will give you 3rd degree burns for a 13 mile radius  - break windows at a 10 mile radius , and dose you at 25 REM or more to a 2 mile radius. TWO MILES.  Beyond that and you probably won't even get sick from the exposure. (now  longer term exposure via fallout is another matter. If you are down wind you could experience 1000 REM an hour if you don't move your butt quick ) And it all depends on how high they detonate. Higher up and there won't be appreciable fallout ( but still plenty of damage)  A low burst at around 400 meter actually reduces damage. It just creates a nice long lasting airborne  cloud  of radioactive dust that can be spread for miles. 

Those stories we got drilled into us as kids  about 50 Megaton bombs wit 300 mile diameter kill zones.. were just that. BS Stories - probably made up by liberals to undermine America against the soviets. The cost/weight/destruction ratio means you get the most bang for the buck between 100KT and 1 Megaton. Yes they made bigger bombs - and detonated them up to 50 Megatons. Your average ICBM payload, however, is around 6 x 500 KT warheads.

 Plug those numbers into NukeMap and you will see that even if deployed in triplets - supposedly overlapping somewhat to create a firestorm ( use the wood burns ring under advanced in nuke map) you are still looking at destruction diameters of about 30-50 miles. Not 300.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/weisshaupt/3x1Mtnukes_zpst7kwss1h.jpg)

Its not good. But you really don't have to be too far away to have a reasonable chance of surviving the initial blast, and Putin can decide if there will be major local  fallout or not.

played some more...

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/weisshaupt/7x1mnukedenver_zps9mespcx7.jpg)

These are 1 megaton warheads - spaced  so that the "setting fire to wood" rings touch. Blue is glass breaking. Green is harmful radiation dosage 25 REM ( from initial burst)  Approximate damage diameter  - 30-50  miles.

So stop worrying. Learn to love the bomb.


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 19, 2016, 12:26:26 PM
I knew a lot more about Cold War arsenals...after the Soviets fell I worried less about big strikes and instead worried over suitcase nukes and material being sold to crazies so staving scientists could make a buck...

With nuclear weapons "close enough" is often good enough...but with anything it depends upon the viciousness of the foe and how intent/likely they are act...what yield and spread are used...ground burst or air burst or anything in between or combined...weather/wind conditions...

Anyway...I am far more worried about what the Establishment assholes are up to more than I am worried about most outsiders...if the assclowns running things here are sane all should be relatively fine and we are back to worrying about the batshyt crazy wildcards...but we have idiots here giving the batshyt crazy wildcards a run for their money and it's making other players rightfully nervous, so who knows wtf will happen...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Dr._Strangelove.png)

Remember, if the other side isn't aware of your doomsday device...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
Ready for Hillary -

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16b1a6e8330ad183e37afc4553addc4a3e103056b8a803215f4eec5d4e16a5ec.jpg)

So, how bad with the fraud be this time around?

I mean the fraud and corruption is already running hot...and the head of the snake cannot operate without a TP...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvLZ9dUXgAEN9t-.jpg)

...people think this trash won't lie, cheat and steal on a level unprecedented even by latter day standards?

Man, except for the Pubbies having the ticket upside down in 2008 it feels a lot like 2008...

And to think somebody who belongs behind bars is just going to be awarded a position she will abuse like no other...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2bab40e90277dbc3dba5ca6fd71b3f9582488757d3a785540dcbec84fd275b8c.jpg)

...man, that is just sick sorry and sad...

...and the puppetmaster gets another one to control...

(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/clitnon-soros.jpg)

Sure would be nice if people actually saw a real benefit to sending a message to the Establishment and overwhelm the cheating and fraud...but I don't know...I think it is going to be especially rank...

And, once again I am greatly disappointed the succubus didn't stroke out and fall over dead...but they got her so pumped full of drugs she could already be dead and it will take months for it to manifest itself...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c6bb6b24a624a01203553f75d7c520f40b216827b895351100e15bfdabe4b3e3.jpg)

And people today are too stupid to see anything that makes sense and instead enjoy being lied to, so that is the other piece here that cannot be understated.

And the presstitutes...their perfidy has never been more great than it is now!!!

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e1c61c70152df8aa9c8f4d8f5c0c41fc7c365359b625be299f37452dc6709ffa.gif)

Won't forget, won't forgive...no quarter, no mercy...ever!

So, the era of the ballot box is over...

So it's down to the last box...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86d6c027d71fe07325507fc188e5b96b4fb5e6b435d29b67889ffa3ed57ad7a7.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2016, 11:29:06 AM
“It’s been a year and now we’ve finished our last debate and I’m feeling relieved and very grateful,” Clinton said.

“But I just wanted to come back and say hello. Some of you have been on the trail the whole time. No more debates.

“No more naps,” she said as her face cringed.

After taking a couple questions, she was asked about the Project Veritas videos appearing to show Democratic National Committee operatives bragging about triggering violence at Donald Trump rallies.

“I know nothing about this. I can’t deal with every one of his conspiracy theories but I hope you all have something to eat, something to drink on the way back to New York!” she told the reporters.

Three minutes after her Q & A started, it was over.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-laments-no-naps-final-debate/ (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-laments-no-naps-final-debate/)

Wow, some rank POTUS material there...but with Obama setting a new low it takes a Clinton, eh?

The nap is the new golf...or passing out...whatever...same thing in this creatures case...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2016, 11:38:12 AM
Good read!

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/is_washington_government_worse_than_king_george.html#ixzz4Ne011T5X (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/is_washington_government_worse_than_king_george.html#ixzz4Ne011T5X)
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Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 21, 2016, 07:58:05 AM
The George Soros Diebold voting machines...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/hacking-democracy (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/hacking-democracy)

Cheating made easy peasey lemon squeezy!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 21, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
Clinton & Dems, filthiest campaign, ever.

http://iotwreport.com/woman-backtracks-on-assault-claim-after-okeefe-video/ (http://iotwreport.com/woman-backtracks-on-assault-claim-after-okeefe-video/)

http://iotwreport.com/group-files-fec-complaint-based-on-okeefe-video/ (http://iotwreport.com/group-files-fec-complaint-based-on-okeefe-video/)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/302645-another-okeefe-undercover-video-dems-put-women-at-trump-rallies-instigate-men-to-yell-at-them/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/302645-another-okeefe-undercover-video-dems-put-women-at-trump-rallies-instigate-men-to-yell-at-them/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2016, 08:09:20 AM
Oops!  technology says Donna Brazile lying...again...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/21/heres-cryptographic-proof-that-donna-brazile-is-wrong-wikileaks-emails-are-real/ (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/21/heres-cryptographic-proof-that-donna-brazile-is-wrong-wikileaks-emails-are-real/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 24, 2016, 04:06:37 PM
via instapundit

Link corrected:

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/10/24/trumps-right--the-system-is-rigged-and-we-dont-owe-it-our-default-acceptance-n2235980 (http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/10/24/trumps-right--the-system-is-rigged-and-we-dont-owe-it-our-default-acceptance-n2235980)

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Okay, this is where Team Fake Pearl Clutch jumps in and whines about my “dangerous talk” and about how I have no “honor” because I won’t submit in advance to another establishment okie-doke. Yeah, sure, whatever – and the emperor caught pneumonia because the little kid pointed out that he wasn’t wearing any clothes, not because he was walking around with his junk in the wind. The system is manifestly rigged – even Heap Big Chief Warren used to say so until a memo informed her that this meme is now inconvenient – so spare me your sanctimonious crap about our sacred system. Our loyalty is properly only to the Constitution, not a perversion of it. Just because you hold office under Article I, II, or III doesn’t mean we still owe you respect or deference when you treat your obligations to the People like a teenage Thai boy at one of Raymond Burr’s Halloween parties. We owe the system nothing. Nada. Zip. Instead, the system owes us fairness and honesty, and without them it has no right to our default acceptance of its results. That acceptance must be earned. This means that the system must aggressively police its own integrity, and this year it has utterly failed to do so. The most important thing in a democratic republic, the keystone that holds it together and ensures the peaceful transition of power, is the ability for a loser to accept a loss. We used to be able to fight out our political differences and, if we came up short, shrug and say, “Well, next time we’ll convince a majority.” We could move on, confident that the playing field had been level, that we had been heard, and that we had lost fair and square. "Not anymore. Trump’s wrong about a lot, but he’s not wrong about this. He may very well lose, but it won’t be fair and square. And Trump is not the problem for saying so......

Then there is electoral integrity. We’ve seen numerous investigations of voter fraud and no one cares. We have one party refusing to clear voter rolls of ineligible voters, while also on a quest to ensure that no one need prove his identity to vote. Sure, Democrats have good reason to believe their voters are too lazy and/or stupid to obtain ID cards, but we all know why they really oppose voter ID: it makes it harder to cheat. And then there’s Project Veritas. We have a Democrat party operative and the husband of a sitting Democrat congressbeing caught on tape proving Democrat catspaws paid to cause violence at a Trump rally, violence which the media covered and blamed on Trump to damaging effect. And this guy went to the White House hundreds of times and frequently met with President Faily McWorsethancarter. Hey Pearl Clutchers, read that again and tell me how this isn’t a thousand times worse than Watergate. Then tell me how this is getting only a millionth of the outrage and coverage if the system isn’t rigged.  So we’re supposed to take it on faith that the votes are going to be counted fairly? Uh huh, sure. If you think Trump is somehow morally obligated to preemptively give up his right to challenge the result after that, you can kiss his hanging chad. And then there’s the corruption of the rule of law. Trump was right – Hillary should not even be running because if we had a single justice system – instead of one for the powerful and connected and another for everyone else – her unhealthy carcass would be in federal prison. That’s not hyperbole – that’s literal truth understood by anyone who worked with classified materials and/or actually passed a bar exam. Then there is the IRS persecution of conservative organizations that has gone totally unpunished. And, of course, the Wikileaks treasure trove has shown that the Democrats simply ignore the law in their campaigns, secure in the knowledge that they will never be held accountable while their opponents will see a weaponized FBI and DOJ turned upon them.

The system is rigged.

It would be nice to be able to say, “Well, she won fair and square.” But that’s not going to happen. My gut says that a majority of people will vote for her, but I live in Los Angeles and a lot of people around here are libfascist half-wits, so maybe my perspective is skewed. Maybe the polls are right – you know, the super scientific ones putting the race somewhere between Felonia von Pantsuit up 12 and Trump up 3. But this election won’t be “fair” in any sense of the word. The media has put not just its thumb but its bloated behind on the scale. All of us have not been heard, much less been respected. How can we trust the votes will be counted fairly when clearly documented admissions of election tampering get a mere shrug if they aren’t ignored entirely? Sorry (not sorry), but like Trump, I refuse to be a good little boy and politely agree in advance to accept whatever the ruling class chooses to do without protest or complaint. You want us to respect and honor what you say are the results of the election? Start by respecting and honoring us. Is this dangerous talk? Hell yes – but the danger doesn’t come from us pointing out the corruption. The danger is the corruption. I walked through wrecked villages in the aftermath of a civil war, so I sure as hell don’t need your lessons about what lies at the bottom of the slippery slope your ruling class is tobogganing down. I know – and as my new book predicts, it’s really bad. But the solution isn’t to try to shut us up when we dare point out the truth – nor will it work. As the hep kids say, we are now hella woke. The solution is to demand the system do its damn job and root out corruption and earn back the default acceptance we would love nothing more than to be able to offer again, confident that the system is unrigged. Too bad if our refusal to simply acquiesce to your scam is inconvenient.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 24, 2016, 04:37:18 PM
Someone wrote that as a review for the camera?  Just making sure I'm understanding.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 24, 2016, 05:24:50 PM
Someone wrote that as a review for the camera?  Just making sure I'm understanding.

Arrgh. I'll go fix it. Darn copy and paste gets sticky sometimes


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 24, 2016, 07:22:38 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/new-reuters-poll-shows-70-republicans-think-election-rigged (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/new-reuters-poll-shows-70-republicans-think-election-rigged)

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    Only half of Republicans would accept Clinton, the Democratic nominee, as their president. And if she wins, nearly 70 percent said it would be because of illegal voting or vote rigging, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday. Conversely, seven out of 10 Democrats said they would accept a Trump victory and less than 50 percent would attribute it to illegal voting or vote rigging, the poll showed. For example, nearly eight out of 10 Republicans are concerned about the accuracy of the final vote count. And though generally they believe they will be able to cast their ballot, only six out of 10 are confident their vote will be counted accurately.

CIVIL. WAR.
And the libtards have no clue whats going to hit them because the MSM refuses to cover the facts.
Michelle had some facebook "friend" post some meme with Trumps' supporters being portrayed as hillbillies and lamenting they can't be deported. I told her to post that cracked article, point out that her pose was simple mean-spirited stereotyping of people she didn't agree with, And then use Pan's tag line..if everything you say about me is true, that just makes your problem bigger doesn't it,  then ask  her what she would want to do with the deplorables - since deportation isn't an option, and suggest she look into  concentration camps

Nothing pisses a facebook friend faster than pointing out they are guilty of the same behavior they pretend to be against.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 24, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
Good; use the tag line.  For the ones that think at all, it gives 'em something to think about.

 ::saywhat::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 25, 2016, 07:09:11 AM
Think, heh!  Funny!  They emote.  They are told what to think and they emote.

Let's see how well emoting works for them when the shat hits the fan and the state is nowhere to protect them, to feed them...to give the slightest frack what happens to them.

God, this is going to be epic, yes?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 25, 2016, 07:38:26 AM
Chiefette Liz "Redbottom" Warren admits Clinton women are nasty!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/303140-elizabeth-warren-we-nasty-women-are-marching-our-nasty-feet-to-cast-nasty-votes-for-hillary-clinton/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/303140-elizabeth-warren-we-nasty-women-are-marching-our-nasty-feet-to-cast-nasty-votes-for-hillary-clinton/)

Wow, Princess Fauxchahontas and Cackling Clinton actually think this is a winner of an idea? 

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7baf0b3d21c0e15d4f6c72ae96cd21302e383c86a958bfcdf68f84a09e6089a5.jpg)

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d22943760c7a038764f32a3c9211d290f3f47e4baffd4ceac067b82563f77384.jpg)

Embrace your inner nastiness, nasties!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 25, 2016, 10:06:25 AM
And Thomas Sowell arrives to the point his comment thread was weeks ago

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/10/25/turnout-time-n2236370?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad= (http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/10/25/turnout-time-n2236370?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=)

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Painful as it may be to realize that we are reduced to considering the impeachability of a presidential candidate, that is a reality that will not go away, just because we don't like it.

How impeachable is Hillary Clinton? Since she would be "the first woman President," any criticism of her, much less any impeachment, would bring loud howls from the media across the country that ugly sexist bias was behind any opposition to anything she did -- no matter how awful. Hillary in the White House would have a blank check, and she would not hesitate to use it.

Donald Trump has no such exemption. Neither the media nor Congressional Republicans would automatically spring to his defense if he overstepped the line. His impeachability may be his most important asset in a year of painful choices.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 25, 2016, 04:44:25 PM
(http://www.cerebusdownloads.com/cih/002/cin_0019.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2016, 08:10:48 AM
Cerebus for Trump, heh!

Hey look, more cheatin', this time in Dallas -

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/2016-presidential-election/2016/10/25/voters-texas-say-machines-changed-trump-votes-clinton-elections-officials-say-just-user-error (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/2016-presidential-election/2016/10/25/voters-texas-say-machines-changed-trump-votes-clinton-elections-officials-say-just-user-error)

...must be Soros machines, "officials" don't seem too concerned, apparently all is well, everything is awesome!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2016, 08:12:38 AM
I might blow this up and paste it around town...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvqZrYfUIAAlbyu.jpg)

...it would be like rubbing a turd in a progs nose, yes?   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 26, 2016, 09:29:39 AM
Blow what up?

Kudos to Andrew Klavan for reminding me this existed.

https://youtu.be/4v7XXSt9XRM
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 26, 2016, 09:54:23 AM
I might blow this up and paste it around town...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvqZrYfUIAAlbyu.jpg)

...it would be like rubbing a turd in a progs nose, yes?   :D


I would edit out the "2008" reference and just leave the attribution of the pResident.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 26, 2016, 11:01:39 AM
wunderbar. For some reason whatever that pic is, I am not seeing it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
Applying any appellation of respect to that manufactured piece of foreign filth really irritates my hackles...I'll just go with his own attitude of No Limit Nigga!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 26, 2016, 02:08:06 PM
wunderbar. For some reason whatever that pic is, I am not seeing it.


Literally not seeing the picture or not recognizing its implication?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 26, 2016, 03:39:26 PM
wunderbar. For some reason whatever that pic is, I am not seeing it.


Literally not seeing the picture or not recognizing its implication?

IE shows it. My firefox doesn't. WTF>
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 26, 2016, 03:48:11 PM
wunderbar. For some reason whatever that pic is, I am not seeing it.


Literally not seeing the picture or not recognizing its implication?

IE shows it. My firefox doesn't. WTF>


I encounter that from time to time. I usually attribute it to group policy (work computer). If I really need to see it there are ways ;'}
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 06:50:02 AM
Proxy...though some workplaces prevent their use too...cell networks and TOR can get around that usually.   ::evil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 07:22:07 AM
http://iotwreport.com/brunell-donald-takes-down-fox-news-elites-on-special-report-video/ (http://iotwreport.com/brunell-donald-takes-down-fox-news-elites-on-special-report-video/)

Heh!


And...

http://www.wctrib.com/news/local/4144816-trump-comes-out-ahead-willmar-high-school-mock-election (http://www.wctrib.com/news/local/4144816-trump-comes-out-ahead-willmar-high-school-mock-election)

Double heh!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 07:45:49 AM
 ::siren::  Pussy Alert!   ::siren::

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/303007-ryan-has-little-margin-for-error-in-speaker-vote (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/303007-ryan-has-little-margin-for-error-in-speaker-vote)

Whatever, gutless Establishment douche!   ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 27, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Man, you want to talk about "cultural appropriation" - check out what someone did with MM's latest rant:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1tWx_im8w#)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1tWx_im8w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1tWx_im8w)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 27, 2016, 11:09:49 AM
Proxy...though some workplaces prevent their use too...cell networks and TOR can get around that usually.   ::evil::


If I want to get around network monitoring and filtering, I use the personal hotspot on my iPhone and setup static route rules on my computer for any of the internal network resources, making those go over the wired connection.  Of course, if your computer has security policies applied you probably can't setup routing rules on it.  But there's always multiple ways to skin a cat :)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on October 27, 2016, 11:21:07 AM
As to MM's rant --

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Two threads down, there are fifteen (as of this writing) comments on the original Michael Moore rant, most all of which thoroughly denigrate him for the fat traitorous ignorant commie pig that we all know him to be.

    "And all of that is absolutely true, as well as being absolutely beside the point. Even though we all agree on the relative (specifically, the profound lack thereof) worth of Mr. Moore to every aspect of our lives, I will "say this about that", as concerns his rant. He's indeed an idiot, but right now, he's our Useful Idiot, and we should wrest the maximum exploitation out of this, his one and likely only, foray into the realm of sanity and truth.

    To the millenials the LiVs and to many others Michael Moore is an Oracle, the Brietbartian hell-raiser of their zeitgeist and their very own Alex Jones-ian rooter-out DaVinci Coded secret truths, revealer of conspiracies and every other brain-addled spiderweb of ill-logic and fantasy as exists in the mind of a LiV/leftist. So, we still afford Mr. Moore the lack of respect which is his due from us. We still hold fast to our knowledge of him being, then, now and always the loutish man his reputation lives down to. But. BUT. We use his reputation as the lever, to pry open the weak and directionless minds of the LiV, the lazily leftist, and through that wedge, we pour Mr. Moore's words into the void where those folks brain would normally nestle.

    If that's not enough to convert them to vote Trump, at least squirrel them up enough to cause them to not vote Hitlery, and hopefully, not to vote at all, to the great benefit of down-ticket Republicans. I'll always still despise the fat communist slug. But if he fashions himself into a wrench to use against his leftist tribe, well, I'll put as much torque on that handle as I possibly can. And with a four-foot cheater pipe, too. And like a cheap Harbor Freight tool, when it's useful no longer, I'll just toss it aside like the cheap crap that it is.

    So, for now, for this, for what it's worth, I'll email that video of him at any suitable opportunity. To liberals, to fence-sitters and to staunch conservative leaders in their respective communities. I have absolutely no compunction against turning the enemy's howitzers around 180 degrees and pulling the lanyard. Fire for effect!

Jim | Sunk New Dawn | Galveston, TX AMERICAN DIGEST: Comment"

http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2016/10/ (http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2016/10/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
Fat Bleep Moore is like a turd that won't flush...you got to chop it up on sight to make it easier to dispose of...

Don't forget the sound suppression...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ad6fa77d962065764cc8eb76602633187a9f1837fba7073990e141541bddc91.jpg)

 :D

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3f9871ab899f095f70cbbd96ff1f2929df00d4b20e649504fd7a7865c793fe6.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2016, 07:54:09 AM
According to OpenSecrets, the company who provided the alleged glitching voting machines is a subsidiary of The McCarthy Group.

The McCarthy group is a major donor to the Clinton Foundation – apparently donating 200,000 dollars in 2007 – when it was the largest owner of United States voting machines. Or perhaps the 200,000 dollars went to paying Bill Clinton for speeches?

Either way, it doesn’t look good.

But there’s more.

As the same user notes in this post, Dominion Voting Systems and The Clinton Foundation did a 2.25 million dollar charity initiative in developing nations together called the DELIAN Project.

According to the project’s own website:

In 2014, Dominion Voting committed to providing emerging and post-conflict democracies with access to voting technology through its philanthropic support to the DELIAN Project, as many emerging democracies suffer from post-electoral violence due to the delay in the publishing of election results. Over the next three years, Dominion Voting will support election technology pilots with donated Automated Voting Machines (AVM), providing an improved electoral process, and therefore safer elections. As a large number of election staff are women, there will be an emphasis on training women, who will be the first to benefit from the skills transfer training and use of AVMs. It is estimated that 100 women will directly benefit from election technology skills training per pilot election.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/new-evidence-links-voting-machines-and-clinton-foundation (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/new-evidence-links-voting-machines-and-clinton-foundation)

No wonder The Prince of Darkness (http://iotwreport.com/soros-trump-will-win-popular-vote-in-a-landslide-but-hillarys-victory-is-a-done-deal/) is confident.

Enjoy your freedumb and dumbocracy!

I don't think the fricken name is a mistake either, can anyone tell me where the name "Delian" comes from?

Hint - ancient times...Delian League...Athens "coup"...Peloponneisian War (a civil war really in modern terms)...?

I'm feeling my Lysander blood rising!  Molan Labe! 

ETA - FWIW, SkyNet predicts Trump win.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 28, 2016, 11:18:40 AM
Plan to wear a red shirt on Tuesday when you go vote: http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/trump-army-planning-to-flood-polling-stations-with-red/ (http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/trump-army-planning-to-flood-polling-stations-with-red/)

It's intended to be a quick visual cue to gauge turnout of Trump supporters at different voting locations.  I just ordered a cheap solid red long sleeve T-shirt for the occasion.  Hopefully it will trigger some progs when I come into the office wearing it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2016, 11:53:34 AM
Pretty sure I have red in my shirt selections...long or short sleeve I don't recall...but it will be worn.

And it won't be BLM terrorist douchebag red, that's for sure!

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cu2zaRTXYAIbHO7.jpg)

That terrorist should be exiled!

And holy heck are the DemoFrauds in full froth!

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-28/some-cities-want-their-immigrants-to-vote (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-28/some-cities-want-their-immigrants-to-vote)

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/ (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/)

http://6abc.com/politics/action-news-investigation-voting-from-the-grave/1575596/ (http://6abc.com/politics/action-news-investigation-voting-from-the-grave/1575596/)

http://www.infowars.com/maryland-trump-supporter-they-switched-my-vote-to-hillary/ (http://www.infowars.com/maryland-trump-supporter-they-switched-my-vote-to-hillary/)

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article111029767.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article111029767.html)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Man-Accused-With-Filing-Fake-Voter-Registration-Applications-399027631.html (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Man-Accused-With-Filing-Fake-Voter-Registration-Applications-399027631.html)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/303881-breaking-2-women-in-florida-charged-with-election-fraud/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/303881-breaking-2-women-in-florida-charged-with-election-fraud/)

Just imagine what we don't know about yet...and I think the panic is related to their own internal poll numbers showing a complete lack of interest in Clinton and voting...they have to make up that widening difference somehow, and the committed DemoFraud is doing all they can.

Here's to their failure/arrest/mental collapse!   ::beertoast::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2016, 12:40:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv0W7vpXgAEbrV7.jpg)

Heh!  God Bless people who think ahead!   ::cool::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on October 31, 2016, 07:45:51 AM
DemonRats, they love (kicking the sh*t out of) the homeless!

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/40760-homeless.jpeg)

H/T - ThePeoplesCube


And regarding the flood of illegals...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/30/exclusive-immigration-officer-border-deluge-of-illegal-aliens-is-the-worst-weve-ever-seen/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/30/exclusive-immigration-officer-border-deluge-of-illegal-aliens-is-the-worst-weve-ever-seen/)

...pretty good election indicator there too, eh?  They see Hillary going up in flames of her own making and Obama powerless to put the flames out...yeah, they gotta beat the Trump Wall.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on October 31, 2016, 03:33:48 PM
So yesterday I got an automated phone call from Rasmussen Reports conducting polling.  That's the first time I've ever been polled.  I enjoyed mashing the button for "Extremely Poor" when asked my opinion of Obama's job performance in office.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 31, 2016, 05:06:47 PM
So yesterday I got an automated phone call from Rasmussen Reports conducting polling.  That's the first time I've ever been polled.  I enjoyed mashing the button for "Extremely Poor" when asked my opinion of Obama's job performance in office.


Thank you for participating. I got a call, once, about 15 years ago. They cut me off about mid-way through and said, "thanks - we got what we needed." And then silence ever afterward.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 06:29:21 AM
All I do is glance at the caller ID and see something I don't like or suspect something I don't like and mutter a bleep you and resume my regularly scheduled activities.

Curmudgeon points, yes?   ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 07:53:55 AM
In other news...

Terry McAwful is doing all he can to steal VA for the criminal Clinton.

If that happens, armed patriots should descend upon these traitors like angry wasps!

And more proof the statists are in full-blown panic...little Jimmy Carville has another classic prog/toddler meltdown -

“This is in effect an attempt to hijack an election,” Carville claimed. “It’s unprecedented … the House Republicans and the KGB are trying to influence our democracy,” he said.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/carville-melts-asserts-fbi-gop-kgb-cahoots/ (http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/carville-melts-asserts-fbi-gop-kgb-cahoots/)

 ::saywhat::

 ::laughonfloor::

That bat-faced loon really knows how to flip out and spout the most hilarious gibberish ever uttered!

"American democracy is under assault"?

 ::hysterical::

No, what is under assault is statist business as usual...the arrogance and elitism on display and the tantrum over not being able to tell people what to think and what to do, to ignore reality, the ignore the lying, cheating and stealing...it is all proof that evil cannot thrive in the light, they cannot be exposed for who and what they are and operate as if they are above everyone else, entitled to rule and tell lesser beings they should be appreciative of the crumbs they bestow upon them so graciously!

They may succeed in stealing another election...by all rights and indicators they should not, but they might...and if they do they need to know it is not going to end well for them.  Some people are tired of the filth, the corruption, the lies and the arrogance and statist privilege, some do not hold with being subjugated and told what they can or cannot do while the state boot is pressed on their throat...some people are close to the last straw.

Tick...tock...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on November 01, 2016, 09:48:06 AM
This is what happens when the democrats run a 20.00 bill thru the halls of the democratic party.....James Carville runs out with the rest of the democratic trash.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 01, 2016, 10:36:55 AM
Great Milo Interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3K1pGN-O8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3K1pGN-O8I)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 01, 2016, 10:59:02 AM
Great Milo Interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3K1pGN-O8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3K1pGN-O8I)


Watched this over the weekend and was impressed. All part of the new "We ain't gonna take it" attitude from the right.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
And smiling through it all.   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 12:41:37 PM
“When we win on Nov. 8 and elect a Republican Congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. We have to do it,” Trump said Tuesday afternoon in an address on the Affordable Care Act in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.

“I will ask Congress to convene a special session so we can repeal and replace,” he continued. “And it will be such an honor for me, for you and for everybody in this country because Obamacare has to be replaced. And we will do it, and we will do it very, very quickly. It is a catastrophe.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-obamacare-special-session-230588#ixzz4OmQA1h8S (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-obamacare-special-session-230588#ixzz4OmQA1h8S)

I like all but "replace"...unless "replace" is meant to mean "get off your dead lazy ass and get a fricken job with benefits"!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 01, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwMf_y-WEAAIiJx.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 01, 2016, 07:30:26 PM
This has to be so over

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU7/status/793323182262358017/video/1

Not only does Chris Matthews not have any leg tingles for Hillary,  he is basically admitting the last 8 years are an utter failure that Hillary will continue. If Chris Matthews is unwilling to tow the DNC line, then I can't see how Hillary could possibly win without massive voter fraud .

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2016, 07:16:24 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwMf_y-WEAAIiJx.jpg)

Is this good news?

http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/01/dc-city-council-votes-to-allow-physician-assisted-suicide-thatll-change-us-all-for-the-worse/ (http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/01/dc-city-council-votes-to-allow-physician-assisted-suicide-thatll-change-us-all-for-the-worse/)

May I suggest a one time trial run?

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2016, 07:43:28 AM
Trump better get out fast fast on this and get those feckless pubbie pansies to kill this O'Buttard stupidity (http://iotwreport.com/its-alive-u-s-trade-rep-congress-has-the-votes-to-pass-tpp/) and do it before Hitlery switches from a fat 9/11 lie into another lie about TPP (http://www.weaselzippers.us/304809-hillary-lies-at-rally-about-being-in-nyc-on-911/)!

Get ready for it!

(http://67.media.tumblr.com/7a549060a9b05fc0a94d50dfe0bcbd9e/tumblr_n24teywDbO1tv5oaqo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
This is good -



On Monday, it was revealed by WikiLeaks that the interim chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile provided a debate question to John Podesta and Jennifer Palmieri of the Clinton campaign ahead of a CNN-hosted debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

This marks the second time that Brazile has been caught tipping off the Clinton campaign to a coming question.

In a March 5 email with the subject line “One of the questions directed to HRC tomorrow is from a woman with a rash,” Brazile tips the Clinton campaign off to a question that will be asked at the next night’s debate regarding the water crisis in Flint, Michigan.

“Her family has lead poison and she will ask what, if anything, will Hillary do as president to help the ppl of Flint,” Brazile’s email reads.

“I was disgusted by Hillary’s answer when she first answered it, I’m even more so now,” Walters said. “And I feel she should be disqualified because it gave her an advantage that she shouldn’t have had.”

During the March 6 debate, Walters asked the democratic candidates if they would promise to make it a requirement for public water systems to remove all lead service lines throughout the United States.

Hillary responded by promising a commitment to changing the water systems inside the country and remove lead “from everywhere” within five years.

Lee-Anne Walters’ described Clinton’s response as a “cop out”.

“The answer she gave is the cop out answer to take it away from water and put funds where there are already funds,” Walters said. “If she is elected she is only going to be in office for four years, not five years, so how does that work?”
Although she shared the question with mentors, Walters told Fox News that she does not believe that her question was able to get to Donna Brazile beyond CNN.

CNN took three questions from Walters prior to the debate and it is unclear whose decision it was to ask the specific question the Flint women addressed to the candidates on March 6.

CNN has since cut ties with Brazile, a veteran political analyst for the network, saying in a statement that it is “completely uncomfortable” with hacked emails showing that Hillary was provided debate questions in advance.

Brazile’s CNN contract was suspended when she became interim DNC chair over the summer.

CNN president Jeff Zucker described Brazile’s actions as “unethical” and “disgusting”.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/flint-woman-whose-debate-question-donna-brazile-leaked-says-hillary-should-be-disqua (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/flint-woman-whose-debate-question-donna-brazile-leaked-says-hillary-should-be-disqua)

(http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-01-at-2.46.02-PM-768x421.jpg)

(http://67.media.tumblr.com/7a549060a9b05fc0a94d50dfe0bcbd9e/tumblr_n24teywDbO1tv5oaqo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2016, 11:57:46 AM
Interesting...

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/minnesota-high-school-vote-donald-trump/ (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/minnesota-high-school-vote-donald-trump/)

I just hope their parents are at least as intelligent as their kids!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 02, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
https://youtu.be/zic64WhR14k

A good Alex Jones Interview with Steve Pieczenik and the "counter-coup".

 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2016, 06:38:12 AM
Good luck trying to separate the wheat from the chaff on all that...I mean some sticks out more than others but combining fact with speculation can and will lead to just about anything.

I deal with what is in front of me and what I think is coming...the KISS principle.

And jeez, are people really jumping on Alex...must be newbs or leftists...Alex had been Alex for...decades...   ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2016, 07:16:55 AM
The Halfrican Mangina on a psychotic rant of epic stupid proportions...

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-north-carolina-2016-11 (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-north-carolina-2016-11)

Another one of those inverted rants that describes himself and Hillary to a "T" and is used to attack Trump...hoping lemmings follow the tainted treat over the cliff just one more time.

What a sick pathetic vile little snake...this rotted garbage can't get tossed out fast enough.

 ::effu::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2016, 07:40:12 AM
Interesting...

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/minnesota-high-school-vote-donald-trump/ (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/minnesota-high-school-vote-donald-trump/)

I just hope their parents are at least as intelligent as their kids!

But in NY, when progressive indoctrinators are faced with preemptive rebellion...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/304958-school-stops-mock-election-they-were-going-to-hold-after-kids-chant-trump-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/304958-school-stops-mock-election-they-were-going-to-hold-after-kids-chant-trump-trump/)

...they cancel that right quick!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2016, 07:53:09 AM
In other news...the BS rape victim stunt backfired...the great unveiling of the supposed accuser cancelled...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/305019-anonymous-rape-victim-cancels-press-interview/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305019-anonymous-rape-victim-cancels-press-interview/)

...death threats...right, is that what they call capitulation in prog-speak?   ::hysterical::

And worsening support in the black vote...Calypso Louie calling Clinton "Hitler"...blacks coming over to Trump and lots in independents...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwSPEYRWgAMTkfn.jpg)

The arrogance is real, the attitude in public is not the one shared in private...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5206b72bd9cda5a17fbffba4deaa94882f9496e1af28b18c453b37d13e55c606.jpg)

LBJ created the new plantation system...it culminated in the disasterous Obama Reign that even many blacks now realize benefited them nothing and set race relations back 60 years....and now the corrupt Clinton machine is disintegrating and fracturing the plantation...

Yeah, that's a shame...   ::smallestviolin::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2016, 12:04:16 PM
Here we go again...

 ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren:: 


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwMjSsaUkAAXyFr.jpg)

http://www.weaselzippers.us/304997-mark-your-calendars-10-hollywood-moonbats-who-say-theyre-moving-to-canada-if-donald-trump-becomes-president/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/304997-mark-your-calendars-10-hollywood-moonbats-who-say-theyre-moving-to-canada-if-donald-trump-becomes-president/)

Liars!  These little twerps never go anywhere!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 03, 2016, 05:26:20 PM
Muhammed's earthbound b*tch (a.k.a. Mr. Soetoro) is screaming the the world will end (http://www.usnews.com/news/the-run-2016/articles/2016-11-02/president-obamas-last-dance) if the Trumpets sound.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 03, 2016, 10:12:21 PM
I did know a couple who moved to Canada when Bush was elected but she was from Toronto to begin with (and he was a complete contrarian).  can't think of any celebritards who actually followed through on their threat to leave the country
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 03, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
I did know a couple who moved to Canada when Bush was elected but she was from Toronto to begin with (and he was a complete contrarian).  can't think of any celebritards who actually followed through on their threat to leave the country

We should add an Amendment stating that if one threatens to leave the country as a shock-jock tactic - but does not - that they can be considered fair game from a Second Amendment perspective and shot on sight if encountered in public.

That oughta' shut the b*tches up!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2016, 06:42:14 AM
I did know a couple who moved to Canada when Bush was elected but she was from Toronto to begin with (and he was a complete contrarian).  can't think of any celebritards who actually followed through on their threat to leave the country

We should add an Amendment stating that if one threatens to leave the country as a shock-jock tactic - but does not - that they can be considered fair game from a Second Amendment perspective and shot on sight if encountered in public.

That oughta' shut the b*tches up!

I think it would be more fun to help them...time for that other stuff soon enough...

I would like a giant catapult built, set it up on the border and launch 'em!   ::whoohoo::.

Here's a manifest of election night payloads...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/election-night-2016-party-panic-943205 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/election-night-2016-party-panic-943205)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2016, 06:50:23 AM
Muhammed's earthbound b*tch (a.k.a. Mr. Soetoro) is screaming the the world will end (http://www.usnews.com/news/the-run-2016/articles/2016-11-02/president-obamas-last-dance) if the Trumpets sound.

The dipsh*t even tried to invoke the Klan (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/03/obama-donald-trump-will-tolerate-klu-klux-klan-elected-president/) and link it to Trump! 

 ::hysterical::

Hey, a-hole?  Check this out -

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3aeec9d4196bcfab2584349703c8849211f3213a7a1d5eb4b2308fdccd646a3c.jpg)

There's your Klan-lover, dumbass!

What a complete a-hole...if that isn't a sure-fire sign these proglodytes are pissing their pants I don't know what is!!! 

 ::laughonfloor::

Keep screaming and calling people stupid SCoaMF...it's adding more height to the Trump Tsunami!!!

 ::rolllaughing::

And combine that with Hillary not knowing where she is or why she is there (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/oopsis-hillary-goes-winterville-nc-keeps-calling-greenville/), the fact that she is a walking national security nightmare (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-clinton-server-breached-by-up-to-seven-actors/article/2606440) who has pissed off just about everybody so much that even people inside the FBI are calling her "the anti-Christ personified" and FBI offices as "Trumpland"  (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump\[/url) pretty much ensures that even if Hillary steals this election she could be prosecuted and/or impeached before being sworn in...and if a ginned up war with Russia isn't working Obama has Operation Election Cancelled  (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-house-readies-fight-election-day-cyber-mayhem-n677636) ...but to help the Statist cause the jurnolistas at AP still even now are dutifully giving the Clinton campaign heads up on the latest investigation news! (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/wikileaks-releases-doj-fbi-huma-special-podesta-emails)

This is both the best and the worst election, ever.  That such a sick, twisted, corrupt, criminal, prevaricating creature can be allowed to run for office and not run out on a rail on sight is a testament to how deep into the sh*tter people have sunk to.

And if there isn't enough on our plate...we have this crap to worry about...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14585.new#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14585.new#new)

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14694.new#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14694.new#new)

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2016, 11:40:09 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/)

Yeah, that'd be a shame...

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on November 04, 2016, 11:58:40 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/)

Yeah, that'd be a shame...

 ::smallestviolin::

There's a downside?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305258-report-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down/)

Yeah, that'd be a shame...

 ::smallestviolin::

There's a downside?

All I can think of is "ain't happenin' fast enough"! 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 04, 2016, 06:44:36 PM
I just thought this was funny...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwcFho2WIAAsVQi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 05, 2016, 07:42:37 PM
Remember, remember the 5th  of November.  I tuned into Alex Jones for is special edition -- and he was channeling Glenn Beck. He brought himself to tears over the pedophile rings (Hastert/Podesta connection)  and then started praying. Its just odd.

There wasn't any real additional bombshells in the latest drop. A bunch of  emails in what they claimed was pedophile slang, with numbers that suggest that may be the case.  But really we knew that already..



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 06, 2016, 10:33:10 AM
I watched that too. I can't believe that I'm at a point where I am watching Alex Jones with a straight face but there it is.

Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2016, 03:54:16 PM
I have a feeling tyranny is coming on a pale horse...a sickly effed in the head psychotic despotic murderous old dyke of a pale horse...but a pale horse none the less...and the legions of Hell are coming with it...

I think things are about to go kinetic...

Oh well, wtf...in the words of Riddick "it had to end sometime"...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
I just thought this was funny...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwcFho2WIAAsVQi.jpg)

(http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/postal-sign-575x325.jpg)

This would be funny too...if somebody took Cliff Claven's knees off.  Ha ha, that would be hilarious!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2016, 04:16:59 PM
And did this ever backfire...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/305525-breaking-incident-at-trump-rally-secret-service-rush-trump-off-stage/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305525-breaking-incident-at-trump-rally-secret-service-rush-trump-off-stage/)

Yeah, looks like the E-GOP and the Clinton campaign picked the wrong guy...   ::hysterical::

Pro-Clinton Pubbie... 

 ::)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
(https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/2016-elections.jpg)

The Law is going to be an entirely subjective proposition...a society cannot last very long when the Ruling Class is exempt and all others...especially those disrupting the corrupt system...are held to account at elitist whim.

I do not hold with that.

(http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/william-munny.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 06, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Democracies always turn into tyranny.  My position, at this point, is that if there is going to be a tyranny then it should be our tyranny.  Cue Pan's sig.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 06, 2016, 06:19:40 PM
Democracies always turn into tyranny.  My position, at this point, is that if there is going to be a tyranny then it should be our tyranny.  Cue Pan's sig.

Getting rid of people who won't obey the law, think they own other people and deny that other people have rights isn't tyranny.  Its justice.

When my family and I visited Colonial Williams, they had actors - some playing neutral characters, other loyal British subjects, others the sons of liberty. I was wearing my Brownshirts T-shirt, and I suspect that is the reason I was picked to play a part in a mock trial of one of the neutral characters by the Sons of Liberty.  The exercise is supposed to put you in a position of convicting an "innocent" man -  I played the part. Happily. Then some other tourist ( or plant?)  suggested to me that - huh that wasn't so easy was it? I said, "not at all. There is no neutral position. If e doesn't  care if my  rights are protected and honored, why should I act to protect his?" The look on this guy's face was priceless.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 06, 2016, 08:02:30 PM
Hope for the best - plan for the worst

I am resolved. Thanks to all-mail voting I received my ballot and cast my vote. I don't have any particular confidence that the vote will be counted or that it make a difference. But I have done my duty and my part.

Now I await our collective fates. Either America does the right thing and we step back from the precipice. Or they vote in the hildebeast and we leap into the abyss.

Tuesday should prove interesting.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2016, 07:24:21 AM
This is a joke!

We have Obama encouraging illegals to vote, the cheating is rampant everywhere, The Federal Bureau of Insiders is busy protecting Insiders, Clinton operatives continue to foment violence at Trump rallies, China is coming to Clinton's aid by warning of dire consequences to America if Trump wins and he backs out of Climate Hoax (as opposed to America suffering dire consequences should Hiterly win and concede to allowing China to cheat) and now Terry McAwful is securing 60k VA votes for Hitlery with a stroke of the pen...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/305691-virginia-gov-goes-around-court-ruling-pardons-60000-felons-enough-to-swing-election/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305691-virginia-gov-goes-around-court-ruling-pardons-60000-felons-enough-to-swing-election/)

There are no rules...anybody see any rules being enforced on Insiders?  Hello?!

It is very likely we are down to the last box...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/2nd%20Amendment/boxes_zpsoywizsgw.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Flags/timesup_zpsda1lsnzn.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 07, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_CYS-KMjM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_CYS-KMjM)

I am beginning to think Steve Pieczenik is running a psy-op for the Clinton's.  His main message seems to be - stay calm and don't get violent - accept the transition of power - and while he doesn't say it explicitly, I think he means "even if the Clinton's do cheat their way in"

He may not even be connected to the real leakers - just claiming to be - hoping to get the leakers to contact them and give them leads. Its even possible that they are allowing these drops to wikileaks - as Ann says - because they want you to know that they are above the law, and there is nothing you can do about it.  .

Plain  and simple,  if Hillary wins it is every citizen's duty to resist , sabotage and attack the system until its brought to its knees. That means  the DOS attacks via govt forms,  leaving strange packages to be found wasting LE time,  going Galt and/or getting on the dole, or if you are in a situation where you aren't risking others, pay no taxes at all. ( Personally I can't go that route due to the risk to my wife and kids) 

I will not be at all surprised if officials and their families start showing up dead - especially those in the  FBI.  At this point if you choose to still serve under Comey, then you picked a side.  I also suspect we will see real succession movements in many States- and assassination attempts on the leaders of those movements.  Its very possible that Obama/Hillary and the rest of the globalists want this escalation as an excuse to implement Martial law.. but every step they take in that direction will meet with more resistance than in the past because we KNOW- without a doubt,  that this woman should be in Jail, and that there is no Justice coming from within the system. But hey, I could be wrong. The economics haven't really reached the point where enough people are suffering, which really is a necessary component of most revolutions.  I eagerly await the next Hoyt article about how the level of general-f**kupedness isn't yet at a point where violence is warranted.... ( and of course never will be)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 07, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
I liked this - it strikes the right balance between optimism and pragmatism:

Brace for Impact
http://raptureready.com/soap2/wyett34.html (http://raptureready.com/soap2/wyett34.html)

I write this just before the scheduled election of 2016, so I don’t know the outcome as yet. God does and so might you by the time you read this. From my spot in time, I offer a few observations. It will be either Hillary or Donald Trump for president. There are third party options but none are relevant as to the outcome except to pull votes away from the only two contenders. Some will not vote, allowing those who do to decide things.

Such a tact does not absolve one of responsibility in this matter, rather, it’s an abdication of duty as a citizen of this nation. To my fellow citizens, you are blessed to have the opportunity to vote, to live in a nation where our representatives and leaders seek such assent from the consent of the governed. In all nations throughout most of history, the concept of a person getting to cast a legitimate vote to decide the course of government was unthinkable. God has given us the right to do so here, a right wrested from tyranny at the price of patriot’s blood.

For conscience’ sake, vote. Honor the God of heaven with your vote and seek His discernment in doing so.

Some say there’s no real choice for president. I beg to differ. Donald Trump wasn’t my first, second, third or even fourth choice in the primary. But now he’s the only choice to defeat the demonstrably most vile, corrupt, criminal liar in the history of American politics. That’s a pretty high bar considering the last eight years.

As a side note, Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, has been out campaigning on behalf of Hillary. What a sign of our wicked times; the most unqualified person to ever run for president supporting the most disqualified person to ever run for president. There is a certain consistency with evil.

“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” (Matthew 7:16-18)

What of the fruits of the candidates? Donald Trump is pro-life, pro-gun, wants to secure our borders from illegal invasion and seeks to put a halt to the insane importation of Islam into our nation and remove its destructive influence from government. More than words, he has surrounded himself with good people such as Mike Pence, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson and many others. Ted Cruz supports Mr. Trump.

Donald Trump has said, “I will protect (Christians)… because we’re not being protected,” and “a Trump administration, our Christian heritage will be cherished, protected, defended like you've never seen before." Protected from the likes of the Clinton crime syndicate.

Speaking of which...

Hillary Clinton and the words “corrupt” and “evil” have become synonymous. Her fruit is well-known. She is a staunch supporter of any and all abortion, up to the birth of the child. She defends the baby slaughterhouses of Planned Parenthood and idolizes its racist founder, Margaret Sanger.

Hillary’s vocally anti-gun, not surprising from a Saul Alinsky Marxist. Learn from history or be victim to its repetition. The horrific government-sponsored massacres of the 20th century were preceded by civilian disarmaments.

The defenseless are so much easier to slaughter than the armed.

Hillary openly advocates for open borders (the destruction of our nation’s sovereignty), wants to greatly expand the importation of Muslims into the country, and champions the homosexual agenda.

I detailed her email-related treason and criminality in my last article, “As the World Burns.” More recent revelations have uncovered the sickening pedophile activities that both she and Bill have participated in. The information out there if you have the stomach for it. Key words “Jeffrey Epstein” and “Orgy Island.”

Read the first chapter of Romans. Hillary, by biblical definition, is a hater of God. And by simple human observation, a hater of America and of humanity. Her profane tirades are legion, one in particular related to me by a friend who personally endured one.

Hatred gushes from her mouth like an overflowing toilet without a shut-off valve.

Despite these things, I hear those claiming to be Christians supporting Hillary. This is a grave contradiction between word and action.

Jesus said:

“Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter (Holy Spirit) will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove (reprimand) the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment.” (John 16:7-8)

Every true Christian has the Holy Spirit indwelling in us, giving us discernment of good and evil. This is not a gift of the Holy Spirit, it is an essential function. Those lacking discernment about Hillary Clinton have not the Holy Spirit within them. One can’t be in open rebellion against God and have a Christian faith. The two are diametrically opposed. We are to repent of evil, not vote for it.

I realize the gravity and implications of what I just wrote.

Yet I write the hard things that must be said to warn deceived people of the judgment that they face. If party or personal ideology take priority over God’s moral absolutes, these things are your god, not the one true God of the Bible.

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” (Matthew 6:24)

Mammon usually in context refers to money but can apply to anything worldly and not of God. Dear ones, no true Christian can support Hillary Clinton. Yes I know of Donald Trump’s past. It’s his future that intrigues me. As I’ve detailed, he’s the best option. The last perfect man in an election lost to Barabbas 2000 years ago. Through His loss, we as Christians have won eternal life.

As for now, we have an obligation and duty to our faith and country. What’s that look like?

Is there a global conspiracy to rule the world?

Revelation certainly confirms this as Satan’s plan. Of interest, you’d have to be 58 years old or older to have voted in a presidential election year that hasn’t featured a Bush or Clinton running for president or vice-president. 1976 was the last time this wasn’t the case, save 2012 in which Hillary was secretary of state, personally enriching herself by selling influence to finance her current run at the White House.

1980; George HW Bush ran for president in the primary, lost to Ronald Reagan and became his running mate. 1984; George HW Bush, vice-president. 1988; George HW Bush, president. 1992; George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, president. 1996; Bill Clinton, president. 2000; George W. Bush, president. 2004; George W. Bush, president. 2008; Hillary Clinton, president (lost in primary). 2012, Hillary Clinton part of the Obama team. 2016; Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, president.

Random coincidence?

Will Trump win? Despite the desperately skewed polls, I believe he has a decisive lead in the popular vote. In our lawless government, that might not be enough.

My feeling is the only way that Hillary can win is by massive voter fraud, the likes of which we’re already seeing and has been verified as a core campaign strategy throughout Hillary’s criminal run. Just ask Bernie. Or Donald.

Look up videos from Project Veritas for an inside look and admission of such tactics, going back many years. Let me give you a brief preview.

Scott Foval, a point man for Hillary and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) for such things as inciting violence at Trump rallies and facilitating voter fraud, was fired from his position only after the Project Veritas videos came out. Please note, he wasn’t fired because he did these things.

These actions are what he was paid to do. Such illegal, immoral and unethical conduct was his job duty as assigned by Hillary and the DNC with their full knowledge and oversight.

Foval was fired only because he got caught admitting to what he was doing and who was directing him. You think he might still be doing the same things, just getting paid by a different route? I bet he keeps his mouth shut from now on.

Whoever wins, there will be blowback. This nation is divided much as it was prior to the Civil War. In some ways more so.

Much can still happen between now, the election and the inauguration of a new president. It will not be a smooth transition, if indeed there is one.

Theories abound as to what is yet to come. Take comfort in knowing that nothing surprises God. He never scratches His head and blurts, “Wow, I never saw that coming.” All-knowing, omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful, and invincible. Loving and merciful, yet righteous and holy. Those who execute evil plans play right into God’s master plan.

Sin will be judged, evil will be vanquished. Fear not for the things that must yet come. Heaven awaits.

Don’t place your faith in election outcomes, put your faith, all of it, in Jesus. The King is coming!

But until then, until you see Him with your own eyes, be about your Father’s business. Light and salt my friends. As Patrick Henry said, “The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.”

Elections are barometers in the battle of good versus evil. Let us see how November 8 is decided.

That said, brace for impact.

Patrick

patrickwyett@excite.com
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 07, 2016, 10:22:24 AM
I agree Weisshaupt, I think Pieczenik is a disinformation operative.  I have heard him numerous times on Chemtrails Jones' show and he almost always says something that trips my BS alarm.  In that whole "we're the counter-coup feeding Wikileaks" video, he made unnecessary comments praising Henry Kissinger, a top shelf globalist if there ever was one.  Hell he even praised Valerie Jarrett in one of them.  I also have taken note of the "remain calm, orderly transition is paramount" argument in more than one of his videos.  And I say f**k that.  If they blatantly steal an election there should be nothing "orderly" about any of it.

The one guy who has so far been right about pretty much all of it is Larry Nichols, the former "cleaner" for the Clintons.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2016, 11:33:39 AM
"I also suspect we will see real succession movements in many States" - Weisshaupt

Yeah, this better fricken happen, and happen fricken fast.  I know I am doing something...perhaps many somethings should that corrupt statist psychopath steal this thing...what it is I don't know...but succession better happen somewhere and be allowed to happen or the violence meter is going to go from "Whoa!" to "Holy sh*t!" in a heartbeat.

"Elections are barometers in the battle of good versus evil. Let us see how November 8 is decided.  That said, brace for impact." - 'Soup's link

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/2nd%20Amendment/armed_zps4adftndq.jpg)

Divine inspiration, check.

"And I say f**k that.  If they blatantly steal an election there should be nothing "orderly" about any of it." - Glock32

Amen!

Tools like little Pieczenik will be sorted out soon enough...and it will be done in an calm, orderly and proficient manner.

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/noose_zpsrhmfvv7p.jpg)

Oh, and another thing for statists and their minions to remember...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Police%20State/bleepyou_zpsqsdh8tbj.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Darwinism/last%20day_zpswu71ifay.jpg)

Y'all have a nice day now.

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Misc/clinthattip_zpswrim6c55.gif)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 07, 2016, 11:38:48 AM
Quote
"Elections are barometers in the battle of good versus evil."

They're also barometers of the percentage of the citizenry who either aren't paying attention, are and want progressive government or who are just plain as$holes, also deserving of my/our wrath.

I'm counting on my fellow Americans to swarm the polls & do the right thing - but if not, I will increase my already heightened levels of aggression towards my fellow man.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2016, 11:53:04 AM
Another high-profile moonbat doing the empty-promise tease thing again...

Cher hosted a Hillary Clinton fund-raiser at the Park on Thursday, starting things off by saying if Donald Trump wins the White House, “I’m gonna have to leave the planet.”

http://www.weaselzippers.us/305741-hollywood-moonbat-cher-if-trump-wins-im-gonna-have-to-leave-the-planet/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305741-hollywood-moonbat-cher-if-trump-wins-im-gonna-have-to-leave-the-planet/)

Yeah, if only!   ::whoohoo::

But, just another...ahh...indian-giver!   ::hysterical::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 07, 2016, 12:18:02 PM
Another high-profile moonbat doing the empty-promise tease thing again...

Cher hosted a Hillary Clinton fund-raiser at the Park on Thursday, starting things off by saying if Donald Trump wins the White House, “I’m gonna have to leave the planet.”

http://www.weaselzippers.us/305741-hollywood-moonbat-cher-if-trump-wins-im-gonna-have-to-leave-the-planet/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/305741-hollywood-moonbat-cher-if-trump-wins-im-gonna-have-to-leave-the-planet/)

Yeah, if only!   ::whoohoo::

But, just another...ahh...indian-giver!   ::hysterical::

Yeah. Buncha' gypsies, tramps & thieves. She's 70...& will be leaving the planet soon enough.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 07, 2016, 01:02:56 PM
Trump up by 2 points in the Investors Business Daily poll: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/07/poll-donald-trump-leads-hillary-clinton-two-points-24-hours-election-day/ (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/07/poll-donald-trump-leads-hillary-clinton-two-points-24-hours-election-day/)

The article claims the IBD/TIPP poll was the most accurate in the last election out of 11 national polls.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2016, 04:05:37 PM
Yeah, but do they account for massive fraud?  I doubt it.  And I am guessing there is probably spread across the country something on the order of several million bogus ballots...even before the Soros machines flip some Trump votes to Hiterly votes...

But, I'll do my thing tomorrow morning so nobody will be able to point at me and say I didn't give it the 'ol college try one more stupid time...what comes is all on them, so...

Omnipotens!

 ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 07, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
I look at it as a formality we do out of respect for our forefathers, and to reassure ourselves that we tried everything once the inevitable bloodshed begins.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2016, 06:48:56 AM
Yeah...I'm headed out now to perform what is likely my last bit of civic duty before what is left of the nation we once knew is completely no more.

Upon hearing the latest Wiki news documenting the extent (we all knew) that too many are ignorant of re: Soros buying elections and machines in 13 states as corrupt as Hell itself...it is perhaps good that I am rolling out to the precinct tired, hung over and surly...and armed.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 08, 2016, 09:14:33 AM
My wife, son & daughter accompanied me to our polling local (3 1/2 blocks away) to cast our block of votes. As we walked to the door, I mentioned that campaigning in front of a voting location was prohibited, but sang a verse from Handel's Messiah: "The Trump-ets will sound, and the dead shall be raised..."
(hopefully not raised to vote again).

Usually there's no line where we vote - but today it was @ least a 15 minute wait - and the 2 people ahead of us (whom I had held the door for, letting them in ahead of us) took 5-6 minutes each & needed assistance on how to use the machine (the volunteer actually went inside the curtain & we could hear her verbal instructions).

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M5c884f5ba14e397c35569875dfb016f3o0&w=299&h=184&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0)
(after they voted, they were gone(zalas)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2016, 09:43:35 AM
Yeah, I did that deed...we'll see...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58d043ab529464901f8c670e61c7aca22b556305be94da7c63f5e6c39093cc0e.jpg)

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d3907bf12d6874da8339f0174bf0b8e009bec5101309dbc977685cb639f3250.jpg)

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f28e5e8515eb4d99b2a35c366ed66697db648c69d0cbbeaabc715620ce08c2b4.jpg)

It does feel Twilight Zonish...so many brain-dead zombies, so much corruption and criminality...my forefathers would be puking-dog ill over what this nation has become...would be irate over what people allowed to happen...I share their righteous rage.  Kinda feels 1860ish too, ya know?

And yeah, the Clinton stooge put up to lie about Trump being a rapist like Clinton turned out ot be a hoax after all (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html), not that anybody will pay attention.  Batshyt crazy c***s have to vote for their own kind dontchyaknow...hopefully there are intelligent women who will rebel against these idiots.

And, if Divine Intervention should prevent this crazy woman from exercising the power she so lusts after...the added benefit of making her supporters cry and moan in agony will sound so sweet...and maybe a high-profile douche or two leaving the country being another benefit to look forward to...but making idiots like Beck cry as Trump takes the oath would be icing on the cake for me!

(http://www.drodd.com/images8/funny-gif/funny-gif4.gif)

Please, Lord...let us make the idiot Beck cry!   ::whoohoo::

But, if the whole thing is a set piece and the Establishment gets the theft they worked so hard for comes about...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c13879d52f627c6f4b21c14ae39e9d66b5ec55fb31e29c9486504edf6ed82f5b.jpg)

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13107629211eb30d0aba26a0da52389c5f8c3bb5b97d16bc8d80858005a3f84a.jpg)

...a Rebirth of Freedom will be demanded!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
Locusts...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwvd2fYWQAADlVO.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwvjyQQXEAAH2gu.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwvgApfWIAEzZvu.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwwAxD-UcAAe6b9.jpg)

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/photos-hillary-supporters-trash-lawn-outside-independence-hall/ (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/photos-hillary-supporters-trash-lawn-outside-independence-hall/)

...they'll have all of America looking like that...or worse...

And, if you buy the talking head chatter...


Trump has to win North Carolina and Florida. If early returns are poor for him in either state or if a projection is made quickly, then it will be a short night for Republicans and people will not have to stay up into Wednesday morning for results.
 
“Trump has zero path if he loses both North Carolina and Florida. Losing either might be the ballgame for him too,” University of Virginia political analyst Geoffrey Skelley told The Hill.
 
Skelley noted that both North Carolina and Florida had robust early voting, so the first returns from both states will include large portions of the vote. In the past, candidates with the edge in early voting often triumph.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/early-clues-watch-out-election-day (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/early-clues-watch-out-election-day)

Yeah...well...not sure this isn't bad news...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article113231543.html (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article113231543.html)

Dangling Chad vibe!   ::speechless::

 ::outrage::

Not sure I would read this the same way either...I mean batshyt crazy people probably think a batshyt crazy person like them (Clinton) is "strong", right?!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/exit-polls-what-do-voters-want-230935 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/exit-polls-what-do-voters-want-230935)

Never liked exit polls...about as trustworthy as a fart...and usually gamed by jurnotards under DMC marching orders...

 ::mooning::

And this batshyt crazy old prog...

“Perhaps we can at least agree on one thing – the first task of whoever is elected must be to repair the damage that’s been done by this campaign to the good name of our country.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/schieffer-election-eve/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/schieffer-election-eve/)

Uhh, yeah...I don't think so Boob!  Take your repair and stuff it up your old arse!  All that blather is the same old "if Team DMC loses, y'all better work with us and not fvck us over like Obama did to you for 8 straight years!", yeah...winner doesn't matter...there are too many if us who WILL NOT take your crap any longer, asshole! 

 ::doublebird::

And skip this noise...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-07/your-complete-guide-election-night-what-watch-and-when (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-07/your-complete-guide-election-night-what-watch-and-when)

...the DMC already has it's "Operation Fvck America, Again!" script...

Before the polls close FL, NC, OH, PA, MI...all "projected" to go to Clinton no matter what the results are or end up being...it's all about driving the result for polls still left open and for establishing the baseline for court battles should their vote fraud efforts come up short and ballots need to be found in the trunks of operative vehicles.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0dcc41a914362d7c96e9548067097286fb94d0c71fb8debbcf34b1f8d68b7f3d.jpg)

Yeah, that's be swell...would love to see it happen...if only...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on November 08, 2016, 01:07:58 PM
Yea....Voted. My overwhelming feeling is the country is so corrupt it wouldn't surprise me if Hillary was declared winner by a landslide. Progs are so emboldened today.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: fordguy_85 on November 08, 2016, 02:46:30 PM
Yea....Voted. My overwhelming feeling is the country is so corrupt it wouldn't surprise me if Hillary was declared winner by a landslide. Progs are so emboldened today.

What you said Don...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 08, 2016, 03:03:11 PM
My wife, son & daughter accompanied me to our polling local (3 1/2 blocks away) to cast our block of votes. As we walked to the door, I mentioned that campaigning in front of a voting location was prohibited, but sang a verse from Handel's Messiah: "The Trump-ets will sound, and the dead shall be raised..."
(hopefully not raised to vote again).

Usually there's no line where we vote - but today it was @ least a 15 minute wait - and the 2 people ahead of us (whom I had held the door for, letting them in ahead of us) took 5-6 minutes each & needed assistance on how to use the machine (the volunteer actually went inside the curtain & we could hear her verbal instructions).

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M5c884f5ba14e397c35569875dfb016f3o0&w=299&h=184&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0)
(after they voted, they were gone(zalas)

I love it that you were able to make it a family affair - kudos!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 08, 2016, 03:17:05 PM
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/dying-to-vote-cbs4-investigation-finds-woman-charged-with-casting-dead-fathers-ballot/ (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/dying-to-vote-cbs4-investigation-finds-woman-charged-with-casting-dead-fathers-ballot/)

Guess the party.  Because the only time voter fraud is illegal is when a Republican is caught doing it.
Get used to it. Only Deplorables can break the law, and if they haven't  we will make something up.

( There WAS NO REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN COLORADO in 2016.  They even removed the straw poll because the poll would be binding - but someone this woman is charged for voting in one? HOW?)

Expect no justice in reformed America. Except that which we make for ourselves.

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 08, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
Expect no justice in reformed America. Except that which we make for ourselves.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDkYZWeeVg#)

"Deserves got nuthin' t'do with it."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2016, 05:00:09 PM
Good movie...I especially like the warning to folks lingering about as he exits the saloon...

"All right, I'm coming out! Any man I see out there, I'm gonna kill him!"  etc etc

Progressives taught us time and time again...The Law...is self-defined...it's not going to be my problem if other SOB's don't like our definition of "justice".   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2016, 05:51:42 PM
DMC planned chaos breeds opportunity to cheat like a demon on furlough!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/while-we-wait-what-millions-americans-are-demanding-answers-right-now (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/while-we-wait-what-millions-americans-are-demanding-answers-right-now)

Provisional ballots?  Oh, pre-filled Clinton votes in trunks of operative cars!  Yeah, dumbocracy in action.   :o






In Utah, voting machine problems in the southern part of the state forced poll workers to use paper ballots, with some residents sent to alternate voting locations.
 
Machine issues were reported in Wilson County, Tenn. — and at one point all of the county’s machines went down, according to local reports. Voting later resumed manually.
 
In Texas, a computer used by election clerks malfunctioned at a polling place, so officials briefly diverted voters to another polling place more than two miles away.
 
In Louisiana, some early voters were forced to wait as correct machines were installed.
 
In Durham County, N.C., paper poll books were being used Tuesday due to “tech problems at a few sites.”
 
In Georgia, one voter reported that "half the machines" were down at one location. Two polling places in Gwinnett County opened late, officials told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
 
Machine issues were also reported by voters in Rahway, N.J., as well as Philadelphia.
Pennsylvanians told CBS News their vote for Trump was changed to Clinton...


There have been some scattered issues where voters are encountering problems.
 
Election judges in Clinton Township, Butler County confirmed there were issues with two of their eight automated voting machines. Most of the issues came when people tried to vote straight party ticket.
 
However, other said they specifically wanted to vote for Republican Donald Trump only to see their vote switched before their eyes to Democrat Hillary Clinton.
 
“I went back, pressed Trump again. Three times I did this, so then I called one of the women that were working the polls over. And she said you must be doing it wrong. She did it three times and it defaulted to Hillary every time,” Bobbie Lee Hawranko said.
 
Allegheny County has also been dealing with some Election Day issues.
And as InfoWars reports, video footage posted on Twitter shows an African-American man attempting to vote for Donald Trump in Pennsylvania but the voting machine refusing to select any other option than Hillary Clinton.


“This is what I was talking about, they fixed it but it was on some nut sh*t at first,” the man tweeted, adding that a poll worker helped him fix the problem.
 
“LOL funny that the “errors” and “calibration” always favors the Statists. Things that make you go hmmmm….,” responded another Twitter user.
And we leave it to officials in Philadelphia to sum the farce up...

Officials have recalibrated the machines and are confident that the problem has been resolved.
"Recalibrated"??

*  *  *

As a reminder, Joseph Jankowski of Planet Free Will previously explained, a U.K. based company that has provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona, has direct ties with billionaire leftist and Clinton crusader George Soros.

.
.
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Smartmatic is providing machines to Arizona, California, Colorado, Washington DC, Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin, which means these Soros and Clinton linked machines are going to take the votes of thousands of Americans.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/voting-machine-irregularities-reported-utah-tennessee-pennsylvania-north-carolina (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/voting-machine-irregularities-reported-utah-tennessee-pennsylvania-north-carolina)

Dumbocracy!   ::mooning::

When does Liberty Lead get to vote?  Hard to change them once cast! 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 08, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
Anybody have any idea what time "they" expect to call it one way or t'other?  'Cause I ain't lookin' until the fat lady sings (and I hope she won't be singing, that she'll be screaming in rage).

Please God.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 08, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
222 to 202, Trump @ 11:06 EST - with WI & MI possibles for him as well - fingers crossed & prayers on high.
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Post by: Weisshaupt on November 08, 2016, 10:32:22 PM
New York Slimes has this basically in the bag.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region (http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region)

We are in sold "be careful what you wish for " territory
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Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 08, 2016, 10:33:32 PM
238 to 209, Trump
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Post by: Weisshaupt on November 08, 2016, 10:36:34 PM
They better be collecting and bottling those liberal tears so I can drink them, or there will be hell to pay.
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Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 08, 2016, 10:40:29 PM
254 - 209  . . . . .
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Post by: richb on November 08, 2016, 10:40:34 PM
Holy Sh*t,   Trump may actually win! 
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Post by: Pandora on November 08, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
Please, God, please .........
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Post by: fordguy_85 on November 08, 2016, 11:19:42 PM
I'm right there with ya Pan...
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Post by: IronDioPriest on November 08, 2016, 11:31:28 PM
It's looking like Trump might pull it off!
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Post by: Weisshaupt on November 08, 2016, 11:31:38 PM
Dewey Wins!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/weisshaupt/OracleTrump_zpsdup2bjvp.jpg)

Glad Newsweek made a business decsion to print all Hillary issues. But hey, who will buy the Trump one? 30 people?



I saw on ZH this morning the odds of a Trump win were the same as they were for brexit the day of the referendum.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/brexit-vs-us-election-odds-then-and-now (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-08/brexit-vs-us-election-odds-then-and-now)


I guess the elite aren't as powerful as they thought-- or they let Trump win because they knew the country wouldn't accept Hillary. Who knows.  At least we have 4 years of hilarious crazy to look forward to, instead of depressing crazy - providing that Hillary doesn't have the electoral college vote to put her in anyway.



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 09, 2016, 12:12:36 AM
https://t.co/sctAkibti1
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Post by: Predator Don on November 09, 2016, 12:47:46 AM
Still the pessimist.....While trump is winning.... these close states are not calling for either. Still think the fix is in, just needing to "recalibrate" the states.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 09, 2016, 01:07:15 AM
Still the pessimist.....While trump is winning.... these close states are not calling for either. Still think the fix is in, just needing to "recalibrate" the states.

I am betting Clinton does NOT concede the race tonight, and will be doing recounts wit the hanging chad bs till she gets the result se wants , or the unions can find a box of ballots or a missing machine somewhere.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on November 09, 2016, 01:19:19 AM
Still the pessimist.....While trump is winning.... these close states are not calling for either. Still think the fix is in, just needing to "recalibrate" the states.

I am betting Clinton does NOT concede the race tonight, and will be doing recounts wit the hanging chad bs till she gets the result se wants , or the unions can find a box of ballots or a missing machine somewhere.


I'm with you. The fix is in.
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Post by: Pandora on November 09, 2016, 01:54:47 AM
Still the pessimist.....While trump is winning.... these close states are not calling for either. Still think the fix is in, just needing to "recalibrate" the states.

I am betting Clinton does NOT concede the race tonight, and will be doing recounts wit the hanging chad bs till she gets the result se wants , or the unions can find a box of ballots or a missing machine somewhere.

She did concede .......... he won.  Oh my God, Trump won the election.

Thank God, thank God .........
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Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 09, 2016, 01:56:20 AM
Still the pessimist.....While trump is winning.... these close states are not calling for either. Still think the fix is in, just needing to "recalibrate" the states.

I am betting Clinton does NOT concede the race tonight, and will be doing recounts wit the hanging chad bs till she gets the result se wants , or the unions can find a box of ballots or a missing machine somewhere.

She did concede .......... he won.  Oh my God, Trump won the election.

Thank God, thank God .........

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V835qWx1TgM/hqdefault.jpg)
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Post by: Predator Don on November 09, 2016, 02:16:59 AM
The fix was in......The media just couldn't pull it off. Talk about needing a deep look into their collective souls. Half of America woke up. Their stale act isn't going to play anymore.
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Post by: Glock32 on November 09, 2016, 02:21:00 AM
The fix was in......The media just couldn't pull it off. Talk about needing a deep look into their collective souls. Half of America woke up. Their stale act isn't going to play anymore.


Yep.  This means Trump's margin of victory was even bigger than these results show.  It was too big for them to pull off a steal.  You know damn well that's why it was taking so long to finalize the returns from Pennsylvania and Florida.  They were waiting to see what sort of gap they'd need to make up with a trunk full of absentee and provisional ballots.

Also I read this on Breitbart earlier tonight: Dem. Gov. of Virginia restored voting rights to 60,000 Virginia felons and Hillary won Virginia by...wait for it...60 thousand votes.
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Post by: ToddF on November 09, 2016, 04:00:01 AM
Took my after lunch walk, to the bay, around the golf course that surrounds a 500 year old walled city, around Manila Cathedral (hosting a Cardinal since the 1500's) and back, all in weather which the dew point has dropped noticeably in the past couple of weeks down into the mid to upper 60's.  All to come home to Trump being at 95%+ chances of winning.  And achieving a new post smoking weight low.

Best.  Walk.  Ever.

 ::danceban::

 ::USA::
 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2016, 05:26:21 AM
The fix was in......The media just couldn't pull it off. Talk about needing a deep look into their collective souls. Half of America woke up. Their stale act isn't going to play anymore.


Yep.  This means Trump's margin of victory was even bigger than these results show.  It was too big for them to pull off a steal.  You know damn well that's why it was taking so long to finalize the returns from Pennsylvania and Florida.  They were waiting to see what sort of gap they'd need to make up with a trunk full of absentee and provisional ballots.

Also I read this on Breitbart earlier tonight: Dem. Gov. of Virginia restored voting rights to 60,000 Virginia felons and Hillary won Virginia by...wait for it...60 thousand votes.

Yup.

AT about 8:30 it appears the Establishment realized all of it's preliminary cheating and lying just wasn't going to be enough...and there was not going to be an easy way to fix this without involving numerous long contested legal challenges exposing the scope of the fraud...the Establishment blinked...Soros must feel like his money was pissed down a drain, you can bet he'll redouble his efforts in '20.

http://www.nytimes.com/?WT.z_jog=1&hF=t&vS=undefined (http://www.nytimes.com/?WT.z_jog=1&hF=t&vS=undefined)

Had to be a tough bitter pill for the Old Gray Hag and the rest of the DMC...

Oh, and is there crying now? 

(http://www.drodd.com/images8/funny-gif/funny-gif4.gif)

I want to hear the lamentations!  I want Cher to double over and croak!  I want all those A-list A-holes in Hollywood to do as they promised and get up and leave!

Has any of that happened yet?

 ::saywhat::

This is The Revenge of the Deplorables...and if not for the polarizing corrupt Clinton's and the over-the-top antics of the DMC that Oh-Hell-No sentiment might not have translated into an uprising capable of overwhelming the fraud factor.

We'll see what kind of legs this has, what Trump can do with the opportunity.  Relax for a little bit, a brief respite from the insanity has been granted.  Hopefully the Praetorian's around the President-Elect isn't the standard fare we've come to know and dislike...
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Post by: Predator Don on November 09, 2016, 08:43:51 AM
I almost want to go li9sten to Beck.....almost.
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Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2016, 08:54:56 AM
My US House District with Emmer (6th) was never threatened...nice to see Paulsen beat progtard Bonoff in 5th and radio host Jason Lewis beat libtard Craig in 2nd...there has to be a recount in the 8th since the DMC is declaring it for the prog and there is only 2,000 separating them...can't tell me those Iron Range progs didn't cheat somewhere!

Rep in WI and Sen Johnson win so that stays in friendly hands...and WI went for Trump while Minnie barely went for Clintoon...look at Hennepin , Ramsey and St Louis County fraud and I bet that could be changed!

What the bleep is going on in LA Senate race Alan? 

And people cannot tell me that NC Gov race isn't being messed with gobs of fraudulent activity!!!
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Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2016, 08:58:57 AM
I almost want to go li9sten to Beck.....almost.

 ::ohno::

No, Dear God...don't do it, Don!  Don't do it!

(http://www.drodd.com/images8/funny-gif/funny-gif4.gif)


The few chuckles at the weeping may be interrupted by typically moronic gibberish!
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Post by: benb61 on November 09, 2016, 09:57:17 AM
Took my after lunch walk, to the bay, around the golf course that surrounds a 500 year old walled city, around Manila Cathedral (hosting a Cardinal since the 1500's) and back, all in weather which the dew point has dropped noticeably in the past couple of weeks down into the mid to upper 60's.  All to come home to Trump being at 95%+ chances of winning.  And achieving a new post smoking weight low.

Best.  Walk.  Ever.

 ::danceban::

 ::USA::

Congrats Todd, and to all of us, we held strong.
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Post by: Pandora on November 09, 2016, 10:00:14 AM
Quote
And people cannot tell me that NC Gov race isn't being messed with gobs of fraudulent activity!!!

You got that right.  The Human Rights Campaign, fronted by NC AG Roy Cooper, beat the living crap out of McCrory over HB2 -- as though keeping men out of women's showers, dressing rooms and bathrooms is barbaric and medieval and beyond the pale.

Cooper claimed victory last night, but, as there is only a 4+k difference in the votes, plus counting of provisional ballots, it'll be about ten days yet until we know the official result.
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Post by: Glock32 on November 09, 2016, 10:28:54 AM
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And people cannot tell me that NC Gov race isn't being messed with gobs of fraudulent activity!!!

You got that right.  The Human Rights Campaign, fronted by NC AG Roy Cooper, beat the living crap out of McCrory over HB2 -- as though keeping men out of women's showers, dressing rooms and bathrooms is barbaric and medieval and beyond the pale.

Cooper claimed victory last night, but, as there is only a 4+k difference in the votes, plus counting of provisional ballots, it'll be about ten days yet until we know the official result.


Additionally, they extended voting hours in Durham because of "a software error."  And for those outside NC, Durham is a rather dark town.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 09, 2016, 06:59:17 PM
We have a unique opportunity with Trump.  He is a ballsy enough guy who doesn't care about the criticisms hurled at him, and that means he might be capable of doing things Republicans never do: deal lasting damage to the institutional Left.  Since Reagan every time we manage to get a Republican in the White House or in control of Congress, they are always content to plot a straight course without rocking the boat.  The liberals, on the other hand, know how to capitalize on their political victories.

It is time we do the same.  His presidency must make the Left howl in pain.  The first and best way to do that is to use the multiple Supreme Court appointments he will be making to nominate young originalists to the court.  This should apply to lower court appointments too.  He should make good on his promise to pursue an Amendment enacting term limits on Congress.  Congress will not be on board with that, but I think the mood of the country will not tolerate self-interested congressmen pushing back on it.  He needs to also make tangible progress on the illegal immigration issue.  I think a starting point for that is to begin aggressive investigation and punishment of businesses that hire them.

What are your thoughts?  What can a Trump Presidency do that will deal actual damage to the Left?
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Post by: Septugenarian on November 09, 2016, 07:10:36 PM
1. Stop funding waste, like anything climate control related, common core, putrid art, etc, etc.
    Next .......
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Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 09, 2016, 07:20:02 PM
I couldn't help but notice that Hillary, twice in her concession speech, and Bam-Bam, in his reaction to the election, called our country a "Constitutional Democracy" or "our Democracy"...

...which, I guess, is part of the problem. And I believe that corps-men, everywhere, agree with my observation.
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Post by: John Florida on November 09, 2016, 07:22:39 PM
We have a unique opportunity with Trump.  He is a ballsy enough guy who doesn't care about the criticisms hurled at him, and that means he might be capable of doing things Republicans never do: deal lasting damage to the institutional Left.  Since Reagan every time we manage to get a Republican in the White House or in control of Congress, they are always content to plot a straight course without rocking the boat.  The liberals, on the other hand, know how to capitalize on their political victories.

It is time we do the same.  His presidency must make the Left howl in pain.  The first and best way to do that is to use the multiple Supreme Court appointments he will be making to nominate young originalists to the court.  This should apply to lower court appointments too.  He should make good on his promise to pursue an Amendment enacting term limits on Congress.  Congress will not be on board with that, but I think the mood of the country will not tolerate self-interested congressmen pushing back on it.  He needs to also make tangible progress on the illegal immigration issue.  I think a starting point for that is to begin aggressive investigation and punishment of businesses that hire them.

What are your thoughts?  What can a Trump Presidency do that will deal actual damage to the Left?

   Put everything that Obongo signed into law and regulation and decrees in a pile on the front of the White House lawn and burn it all in one minute just to get the ball started.  Put a collar on the Bureau of land management and the environazzis  and bust up those offices one and for all and the dept. of education and burn down the building.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 10, 2016, 07:26:42 AM
These always open a wants vs needs can of worms...and it is a can of worms because primarily as a result of feckless E-GOP clowns too eager to compromise to the left and too unwilling to fight for anything necessary...the wants and needs have merged...what needs to be done is now necessary/imperative or you might as well just hurl yourself from the highest rooftop...and in those terms should Trump present things to Congress and the people...there is no more "we can survive with ________ in place", we have arrived to "we cannot survive with ______ in place, period" there is no more can-kicking, no more procrastination, no more backscratching and backsliding...we have arrived at the "it is this, or we die" moment.  He will have to campaign directly to the people to get the pubbies to bring forward his agenda, those pant-pissing pansies won't move an inch unless they are forced to...enacting his agenda has to be put in terms that directly correlate to their continued survival...and he may have to carry through with some finely targeted ritual sacrifices to prove the point.

SCOTUS/lower courts, term-limits, cracking down on illegal immigration on all fronts, sensible energy policies, ending all the silly bans and moratoriums, repealing in sweeping meat-cleaver style a host of antiquated and ridiculous regulation to free up private enterprise (which can be done without moonbats going on a eco-binge or OWS...all you have to do is drop the hammer on people that act like the Federal government and turn rivers orange or fleece retirees and investors in ponzi schemes ala Corzine!)...reduce departments and their scope so that eventually they can be killed off easily (probably too much to hope for to wipe out from the get-go even though that is what would be ideal)...EPA, BLM...basically the shrinking of Federal overreach has to end, Congress has to take it's oversight more seriously and the plethora of agencies and subsidiaries needs to have their milk soured...the Fed must be tamed...Fed/Treas are one and the same, and the revolving door with the big capital banks has to be reigned in, this is the one industry that should be heavily regulated, at least at the top echelon...the rest of the banking world feeds off the crumbs the insiders dispense, it is time the obvious insanity around residential & commercial lending and student loans be returned to sound credit policies and the government mandated everybody-qualifies BS has to end, if some people cannot qualify then they need to remedy that situation the way people always have - work, savings, investment...the FEC has to go, they are useless political hacks and there is nothing there that cannot be handled by the courts on a case by case basis...the Feds must divest themselves of landholdings, they have all they require for military and other facilities, the time must end where they hold vast tracks simply to control them and deny them to others, it is un-American and it must end...we must take steps to remove ourselves from NATO, those idiots are fully capable of handling their own security, that they are unwilling is not our problem...we need to reach out to nations we should be reaching out too (India, Philippines for example) and we should be more stern with others (Saudi Arabia, Venezuela) and there is more opportunity than not to find joint cooperation with nations we've ignored/pissed off (Russia) or been unreasonably hostile to (Israel)...Climate change BS, TPP, Keystone, all those have to be reversed...general housecleaning of agencies and departments of statists, perhaps a change in how positions are staffed/reviewed...the war against religion (specifically Christian!) needs to end and that part of the 1st Amendment restored!

Perhaps the most difficult rotten nut to crack of them all - the press.  I don't think there is an easy fix here.  They are incapable/unwilling/unable/unqualified to police themselves...any kind of government agency oversight will be prone to political whim and chicanery...any effort to re-write 1st Amendment rights is (not unjustly) going to encounter great resistance, nor do I think it necessary.  I think the best route to go is to enact strict libel and slander statutes specifically targeting rogue "press" that hurl accusations without proof toward people...the bomb throwers and gratuitous demonizers must be brought to heel and made to understand that the "freedom of the press" is not an open license to lie, cheat, defame or falsely accuse someone unjustly.

Plus, all restrictive anti-gun laws should be obliterated...another one likely to be difficult...but at least I would like to see some measures taken to roll back things...and one item of particular note is anything smacking of a government gun registry...those checks should be local, LEO's can ask to review purchases locally but there should be no database on pure privacy issue alone!  The slightest existence of one is an undermining of the 2nd and 4th Amendments! 

The 10th Amendment needs a new birth of freedom, there is a host of issues the states and municipalities can do better than the federal government, including healthcare (ObamaCare forced states to end [often effective and financially responsible] state run health plans).

There should be an eye towards efforts with downstream benefits that both hamper future meddling into our liberty and possibly make escape from tyranny more unhindered...kinda ties into my desire to see states and municipalities become more self sufficient...there more it is seen the people can do more themselves than need to federal government the better.

Anyway, off the top of my head that is what I have...I'm sure I missed dozens of things and need to break what I do have down into constituent parts...

Next!
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Post by: Weisshaupt on November 10, 2016, 11:14:53 AM

What are your thoughts?  What can a Trump Presidency do that will deal actual damage to the Left?

Well there is the high road and the low road.  Since Barry decided it was okay for a President to decide which laws would be enforced and which would not,  he can simply REFUSE to  follow or enforce some laws, and have his AG selectively prosecute the liberals as they have done to us.   It really depends on if you think healing is possible ( it isn't because Liberals suffer from diabolical narcissism for which there is no cure other than death)

But assuming one takes the high road..  Hillary and others in the DNC who have committed crimes are prosecuted. If Obama comes out and pardons them,  then dig up proof of his non-citizenship and null and void his entire presidency. But without indictments the FBI's legitimacy cannot be restored.
Many agencies will be in full rebellion, and Trump will have to be willing to simply fire, destaff or defund them till they fall in line.

Education is huge- there are so many citizens who simply do not understand how the government is supposed to work. A massive public education campaign is needed - both for adults, and children. The Left would go ape over it, but their opposition would be instructive to that squishy middle who can think, but chooses not to .  We could start with this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c)  and more Schoolhouse Rock type videos. Something needs to be done to counter the anti-american understanding of government, and to promote the idea that Freedom is the foundation of respect.  We really have to hound them so that they can no longer lie and have to state their beliefs and goals in the open.

The integrity of the voting system needs to be assured - All votes must have a paper trail - that can be validated by the voter before he leaves the polls. All voters must have their fingers dyed to prevent moving people from poll to poll. All voters must present a government ID - and you may not collect welfare without obtaining that government ID - ensuring that the "disenfranchised minorites" all have one.  Regulations requiring regular purges of voter rolls should be required and enforced by draconian penalties- such purges to occur 6 months before each election to allow adequate time to deal with any errors. -- Those purged from the rolls must be notified at whatever address they registered under and given a form to protest their removal. If proven a legitimate voter they can be reinstated, and a tally kept. If the number of valid people removed exceeds  10% ( pick a number) the AG must, by law, investigate.  Legal challenges by law cannot interfere with the process or get an injunction  till they are won in court.  Conviction for Voter Fraud  eliminates your right to vote, and strips you of any and all government benefits, including SSI. All polling and counting processes will be under video surveillance and that footage will be made available to the public immediately or within 24 hours of the count being finalized.

I personally would want to see the Justices in the Supreme Court who decided that a tax is a penalty be impeached and removed. Or Use Kelo, or use Citizen's united,  or Same Sex Marriage.  They have not upheld the constitution - they have re-written it and the laws. They are corrupt partisans and they need to be removed.


Trump should also mush for Amendments that would - if nothing else - force debate on the topics that need to be discussed.

Term limits is one.

But also-

A constitutional Amendment that requires every judge to render an individual opinion, and  a requirement to vote on if they should be retained  during non-presidential election years.  A vote to remove should probably have to exceed 60%  to be valid.

A Constitutional Amendment that allows 1/4 of the state legislatures  to repeal a Federal Law.  If the Constitution is binding based on 3/4 agreement, then 1/4 disagreement is non-binding and eliminates the enforcement or application of  any Federal rule or Statute in that state once 1/4 have passed it.  The statue remains in effect in any state that does not nullify the law. This will server to enforce federalism even when Others think they can implement a winner takes all regulation.

A Constitutional Amendment that  Allows legal Succession of any state as long as they take on a percentage of debit proportional to their average congressional representation over the last 50 years.

A Constitutional Amendment that allows the people to nominate senators,  which define the pool  State legislators can pick from for appointment to the Senate. This should remove the worries about nepotism, but return the Senate to being a body  that represents State interests.

A constitutional Amendment that simply Clarifies American Principles.  It wouldn't ever pass,  but again would force the conversation that the libtards refuse to have.  The Amendment would assert that the individual is sovereign and retains all rights  and decisions that do not PHYSICALLY  harm others , that  informed consent to government powers is the only legitimate form of government,  that all laws must be applied equally to all people, and that Judges are responsible for interpreting the constitution according Blackstone's laws  because an agreement is only valid and honestly interpreted according to the understanding of those who signed it. Specifically state that the Common Good cannot be used an as excuse to violate the rights of individuals rights, and only those powers the people explicitly apporve are granted to the federal government.

Make the liberals go on record that they oppose these things. Make them say WHY.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 10, 2016, 12:35:25 PM
Love the secession amendment idea...in line with my focus on downstream benefits!   ::thumbsup::  Strike now too while the topic is hot in libiot minds too, California...remove Federal assets and let idiots flush it for all I care...plus they would take a fat chunk of the debt with them!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 10, 2016, 04:24:56 PM
Good article that I'm sharing with my 2 college attending children, whose professors have been coming into the classroom apologizing for the election results in smug fashion. I've instructed them to remain silent in the classroom (to avoid getting bullied or beat-up) and, if pressed for an answer, say "It seems to me that the citizens of the heartland reacted to a lousy economy & rejected a ruling oligarchy."
This will be my response to fellow Christians who voted for Hillary. If the conversation steers towards "unity" - my response will be "No, it's time to Conquer, Fortify & Domesticate...with the Hammer of Thor!"

 Trumping the Elites (http://www.city-journal.org/html/trumping-elites-14839.html)
The American people said “no” to oligarchy and ruling classes.
Joel Kotkin | November 9, 2016

She had it all—the pliant media, the tech oligarchs, Wall Street, the property moguls, the academics, and the all-around “smart people.” What Hillary Clinton didn’t have was flyover country, the economic “leftovers,” the small towns, the unhipstered suburbs, and other unfashionable places. As Thomas Frank has noted, Democrats have gone “from being the party of Decatur to the party of Martha’s Vineyard.” No surprise, then, that working- and middle-class voters went for Donald Trump and helped him break through in states—Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa—that have usually gone blue in recent presidential elections.

Trump seized on the widespread sense that American life was destined to get worse from generation to generation. Americans wanted opportunity for the next generation, not a managed decline. Democrats—and I was one for over 40 years—once offered this to the working and middle classes that have now deserted the party.

More than anything, the Trump vote says “no” to oligarchies and ruling classes that not only hoard their wealth but also are convinced that they are morally superior. Trump may be as ostentatious as anyone in flaunting his own wealth, but compared with his garishness, the hypocrisy of the elites is infinitely worse. It’s one thing to be told that decline and future stagnation are your lot by, say, selfless monks wearing hair shirts or tough party cadres who live, like the pre-revolutionary Bolsheviks, with the common people. It’s quite another, when the message comes from trustafarians writing for the New York Times or people who fly their own planes and own numerous homes.

Concern about climate change galvanized the elites—Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley—but left Main Street cold. Wall Street placed its bets on Clinton and, like many blocs within the new “progressive” constituency, reacted with shock that the American people hadn’t bought in to their investment.

The map tells all. Clinton won by large margins in the Northeast and on the West Coast, and in states—Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada—where Trump’s intemperate comments roused Latino voters. But outside of Illinois, a whole swath of the country, from the hills of Appalachia to the fringes of the Rockies, went solidly for Trump.

Why would that be? Start with basic economics. The economy in the nation’s interior relies on producing things—an endeavor that the coasts have largely abandoned. Energy, manufacturing, and agriculture still define these economies, and employ many white-collar as well as blue-collar workers. If you live in Texas and Oklahoma, “decarbonization” is a much less attractive concept than it might seem in Manhattan or San Francisco. Trump swept the areas that keep the lights on and the motors turning—Ohio, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Texas, Wyoming, Idaho, Louisiana, and especially West Virginia, where he won by a remarkable 68 to 27 margin.

Among other things, the media missed the fact that the middle of the country and the South continue to gain population. The “blue” model, for the most part, expels people, while, in contrast, the “red” one appeals, particularly to middle- and working-class families. Texas and Florida are now our second and third most-populous states. Once the pacesetter, New York is a mere shadow of itself as a determiner of elections, and California, no longer growing quicker than the rest of the country, has perched itself on the Left fringe, with obvious bad ramifications—high housing and energy bills, depressed blue-collar sectors—for middle-aged, middle-class families.

In contrast, Trump’s America presents an alternative model, which honors small enterprise, allows housing to meet demand, and does not see the United States as part of a global system to be managed. That there are xenophobic, and even racist, elements in the Trumpian ranks is undeniable—but for most Americans, the true “deplorables” have been the self-appointed regulators and financial masters who seem determined to halt their upward progress, and that of their children. If our governing elites want to know how Trump happened, they need only look in the mirror.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 11, 2016, 07:15:29 AM
I have only yet begun to schlong the Establishment!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 11, 2016, 08:42:40 AM
And yeah...while the Trump Derangement Syndrome rages (idiots here in Minnie walked out onto I-94 off Riverside) and snowflakes across the nation have meltdowns and chant hatred of whitey and flyover country...and progtards in Oregon joining their California ilk in calling for secession (Please, make my century!) (http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/after_trump_victory_oregonians.html)...Team Clinton of "respect the results of the election" fame...has militant operatives calling for an Electoral College nullification effort (http://www.weaselzippers.us/306720-desperate-leftists-pushing-the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/) to reverse the election results.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33a1e378d5d5f9467469b40d5c7853a60fd7c653a27aa056e0c38fbbc25e2328.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 13, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
And we are now on night number four. We are beyond tantrum and crybaby territory now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3931214/Police-attacked-rocks-bottles-anti-Trump-protests.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3931214/Police-attacked-rocks-bottles-anti-Trump-protests.html)

I'm told my mother suggested that Trump supporters would be doing the same thing if we lost. 4 Nights of stupid and meaningless protesting/ blocking highways  and rioting? No. Because we have no need to signal our virtue to other mindless herd members.  'member  when the liberals went  batsh*t crazy and would just never shut the f**k up under Bush?  Yeah! I 'member that!

They are never going to leave us in peace. They will harass us using the government or they will harass us from the sidelines, but they will harass no matter what. a Bully has to bully.  Really if you had the stomach for it, one should go down there and infiltrate them, and suggest to them that they would be more productive DOS attacking the government,  sabotaging roads, bridges and other city infrastructure. Maybe show them how. I am a little worried that Conservatives think having Trump in charge -  a New York Liberal of the 80's -  makes the government safe or no longer the enemy. It still is.  Trump can work from the inside to change that - and maybe he might, but as of 11/13/2016  Obama is still in changed and nothing has changed other than now you are likely to be harassed and attacked by a liberal  mob during your day to day activities as well as Obama's govt.

You see people who are really afraid of fascists in the government don't congregate in protest because it makes it easy to massacre or round them up.  Maybe these cowards are only in the streets because Obama is in charge at the moment. But I suspect even more fun will occur on inauguration night. Convervatives would never have been so stupid.  A Hillary win would have just convinced a lot more people that there was no path to a peaceful political solution. (Infowars claims they will providing evidence of voter fraud in at least five of the states Hillary won. And if the election system isn't fixed by Trump within the first  year,  you know the midterms will still be rigged. )

Gun sales would have tripled. A lot more people would begin refusing services to liberals, more still would finally go Galt  or simply refuse to file taxes. Even more would simply ex-pat. You might have begin to see more politically motivated  assassinations.   I don't think we would even move to the sabotage the infrastructure phase beyond DOS attacks on the government itself. It will take a forced confrontation over guns or food confiscation to bring the rural vs. city conflict into full flower.

Its really a question of what Soros Globalist NWO conspiracy INC thinks its next best move is.  They obviously feel that pushing these riots every night is good for them - which means they think they can cow us with demonstrations tat their street thugs will pull you form your car if you speak up, or they are really hoping to foment something larger.  (Sorry Soros, you are dealing with cowards)  Or maybe its just to try and make a President Trump look weak or give him something else to worry about other than concentrating at the task at hand.  However, since we are 3 months before the election that latter device seems premature. These riots make Obama and Hillary seem weak. Obama - via his press secretary, have suggested that  peaceful demonstration over this issue is just fine, and ave asked for unity. They ignored the fact these demonstrations are NOT peaceful. The media of course describes them as "largely peaceful" After all , only a few people are being injured or shot.   (what would the media report if a single person was shot at a Tea Party Rally?)  The end game may very well be to incite a war now. Soros is providing the organization for these riots, but I suspect the participants are volunteers not paid actors.  They question is why now?  oping to get calls for Martial laws in those cities? Make tings to desperate within the urban enclave that the people are willing to fight those evil racist rural folk?

The game is  not over yet folks.  Stay frosty.

 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 13, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
Why has Soros not been hit with RICO?  He is at the top of a command and control organization responsible for violence and damage to property.  It is not speculative.  We know that his various foundations and "charities" are paying common thugs to be....common thugs.  They are organizing and transporting mobs of them from place to place.

That son of a bitch needs to be prosecuted.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2016, 07:27:48 AM
Some people think they are beyond prosecution...for those people sometimes you have to pray for long distance justice.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2016, 07:58:38 AM
Team Clinton Loser is terrorizing Electors to switch their vote.

Various lists of electors to call were floated around the internet.

One was put out by the account, @VoteHillary2016. The admin on the account is Steve Rosinski, a former advanceman for Clinton/Gore and a rabid Clinton proponent. Here’s a shot of him with Hillary.

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-14-at-10.48.34-PM.png)

The @VoteHillary2016 account doxed all the electors in a spreadsheet on Twitter (including the ones where it would be illegal) and encouraged people to call the electors, listing their addresses and their contact information.
Thus someone associated with the Hillary Clinton campaign was encouraging breaking the law to overturn the election results and throw the election to Hillary, and doxing electors on Twitter.

Once it was pointed out to @VoteHillary2016 that this was illegal, he deleted his tweet and wiped his Twitter profile so one wouldn’t see the connection to the campaign.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/307534-clinton-supporters-harassing-electors-to-change-their-votes-electors-doxed-by-clinton-campaign-person/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/307534-clinton-supporters-harassing-electors-to-change-their-votes-electors-doxed-by-clinton-campaign-person/)

Yup, that's Prog's for ya...and behavior like this was written by Clinton's.

I bet a vice-grips would work wonders on Mr ShornScrotum there, eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 15, 2016, 08:57:27 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/scenic-route-hell (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/scenic-route-hell)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/scenic-route-hell (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/scenic-route-hell)

Jeesh...dude sure took the scenic route himself with that post...could've just said "those who are too stupid to live...won't".

 ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 18, 2016, 11:41:58 AM
http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/ (http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
Within the past few years, as privilege theory took hold, many whites began to think that no matter what they did they would be called racist, because, in fact, that was happening. Previously there were rules. They shifted at times, but if adhered to they largely protected one from the charge of racism. It’s like the Morrissey lyric: “is evil just something you are, or something you do.” Under the détente, racism was something you did; under privilege theory it is something you are.

Put another way...they let loose the snake, and it slowly turned and bit them in the ass.  And they never would have seen it coming, their blinders are so tight.  Much thanks has to go to Obama, we really need to give credit where credit is due...and few have had a larger say in setting back race relations in this nation than B Hussein O...his rhetoric, his looking the other way to blacks behaving badly...bringing in BLM terrorists to the White House dozens of times...the message was loud and clear - all white people are racists and anything blacks do is because of that not because who they are.

Whether the old détente was better or worse than current conditions is probably a purely academic question. It is not coming back.

No, it's not coming back.  Fool me once...

If a generation of Americans who lived through the racism, riots, anguish, and terror of the civil rights movement were able to trust each other’s decency and create cultural codes and norms to punish abject racism, we should be able to do it, too. But the truly scary thing is that, at this moment, it doesn’t appear we want to.

Dude, you just went to great lengths to show us how the militants became the mainstream and destroyed any hope of people thinking white people are anything but racist devils...just wtf is going to change them?  From where is this epiphany going to come from that the true message of Dr King was right..."a color-blind society"...people "judged on the content of their character"?  Obama?  Jackson?  Sharpton?  OWS terrorist leader D-Bag McKrackin'?  How do you reconcile with people this insane and who demonize you at every turn?  You cannot.

What horrors may come...did not come because of us...they came right at us.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 18, 2016, 01:00:14 PM

Dude, you just went to great lengths to show us how the militants became the mainstream and destroyed any hope of people thinking white people are anything but racist devils...just wtf is going to change them?  From where is this epiphany going to come from that the true message of Dr King was right..."a color-blind society"...people "judged on the content of their character"?  Obama?  Jackson?  Sharpton?  OWS terrorist leader D-Bag McKrackin'?  How do you reconcile with people this insane and who demonize you at every turn?  You cannot.

What horrors may come...did not come because of us...they came right at us.

Yeah, he also has a go at Bannon.  But the same lack of detente applies. Obama appoints a dyed in the wool eugenicist  and nobody says boo, but Bannon doesn't  like the Jews and hes bad because the SPLC says so ( after all they are the authority on bigotry) - and we are supposed to care?  Have you no decency!?! 

No. It died when the liberals went all out and stop practicing any form of it. And before we can come together and talk, the liberals would have to hear something other than bigot when we talk about immigration policy,  or something other than nigger when we say Blacks have a responsibility to live up to the same standards we expect of everyone else, and they would have to hear something other than homophobia  when we say we don't want our daughters showing with grown men in locker rooms, and the chance of liberals swallowing their own pride and egos long enough to do that is zero. If that means a White Nationalist Movement, then fine. Not my first choice, but that would be assuming I had one.  I don't.  Besides aren't we supposed to be a minority any day now?


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2016, 01:26:54 PM

Dude, you just went to great lengths to show us how the militants became the mainstream and destroyed any hope of people thinking white people are anything but racist devils...just wtf is going to change them?  From where is this epiphany going to come from that the true message of Dr King was right..."a color-blind society"...people "judged on the content of their character"?  Obama?  Jackson?  Sharpton?  OWS terrorist leader D-Bag McKrackin'?  How do you reconcile with people this insane and who demonize you at every turn?  You cannot.

What horrors may come...did not come because of us...they came right at us.

Yeah, he also has a go at Bannon.  But the same lack of detente applies. Obama appoints a dyed in the wool eugenicist  and nobody says boo, but Bannon doesn't  like the Jews and hes bad because the SPLC says so ( after all they are the authority on bigotry) - and we are supposed to care?  Have you no decency!?! 

No. It died when the liberals went all out and stop practicing any form of it. And before we can come together and talk, the liberals would have to hear something other than bigot when we talk about immigration policy,  or something other than nigger when we say Blacks have a responsibility to live up to the same standards we expect of everyone else, and they would have to hear something other than homophobia  when we say we don't want our daughters showing with grown men in locker rooms, and the chance of liberals swallowing their own pride and egos long enough to do that is zero. If that means a White Nationalist Movement, then fine. Not my first choice, but that would be assuming I had one.  I don't.  Besides aren't we supposed to be a minority any day now?

They made their bed...if they don't like dying in it...frick if I care...

Indifference can be liberating...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2016, 03:11:38 PM
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And people cannot tell me that NC Gov race isn't being messed with gobs of fraudulent activity!!!

You got that right.  The Human Rights Campaign, fronted by NC AG Roy Cooper, beat the living crap out of McCrory over HB2 -- as though keeping men out of women's showers, dressing rooms and bathrooms is barbaric and medieval and beyond the pale.

Cooper claimed victory last night, but, as there is only a 4+k difference in the votes, plus counting of provisional ballots, it'll be about ten days yet until we know the official result.


Additionally, they extended voting hours in Durham because of "a software error."  And for those outside NC, Durham is a rather dark town.

This one is getting fugly.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/claims-votes-dead-felons-cloud-north-carolinas-governor-175217833.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/claims-votes-dead-felons-cloud-north-carolinas-governor-175217833.html)

And you cannot tell me if people really look into this hard they can't find a buttload of fraudulent votes, we already documented the Kristallnacht antics of the Soros/Clinton/Cooper asshats  (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14653.0) and I think they're unhinged nature was fueled by a real fear that Trump's HUGE rallies were working (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14691.0) and I can guarantee their ballot manufacturing efforts went into 3-shift overdrive.

McCrory cannot give in one inch...they should be going to the mat in every precinct in the state and challenging the slightest irregularity...the DemonRats are going to allege voter nullification and racism and all that BS anyway, so might as well be the biggest bag of dicks you can.

Why not?   ::whatgives::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 18, 2016, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: Weisshaupt
the chance of liberals swallowing their own pride and egos long enough to do that is zero. If that means a White Nationalist Movement, then fine. Not my first choice, but that would be assuming I had one.  I don't.  Besides aren't we supposed to be a minority any day now?

I am fine with White Nationalism at this point.  Intellectually I would have preferred a form of Civic Nationalism, but the Left destroyed the conditions that could have permitted a true and genuine multi-racial nation.  We had something closer to it before, when we had people of different races but who conformed to a backdrop culture of Anglo-Saxon origin and temperament.  The Left blew that out of the water and transformed it into a bunch of individual nations united by their opposition to that backdrop Anglo-Saxon nation.  So if that backdrop nation is to survive at all, it will now have to become self-consciously ethnic.  It has already begun.

White people no longer give a f**k about being called racist.  The Left is going to wish to hell it had let sleeping dogs lie.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 18, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
Local early a.m. talk radio host insists on identifying himself as Mexican-American, although he's third generation.  That has always irritated me.  Today, a man caller voiced his annoyance with it, saying "I'm {just} American, not Irish-American, why aren't you?".  The host defended it as being his choice because 'there's nothing in the Constitution' preventing it.  (Dumb.)  What the objector failed to ask Mr. Host was why he chooses a divisive self-identification.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on November 18, 2016, 09:45:46 PM
VERY interesting side note on the 2016 race.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/ (http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/)

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I have a different perspective. Back in October 2015, I wrote that the picture of Trump as “the white power candidate” and “the first openly white supremacist candidate to have a shot at the Presidency in the modern era” was overblown. I said that “the media narrative that Trump is doing some kind of special appeal-to-white-voters voodoo is unsupported by any polling data”, and predicted that:

    If Trump were the Republican nominee, he could probably count on equal or greater support from minorities as Romney or McCain before him.

Now the votes are in, and Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him. You can read the Washington Post article, Trump Got More Votes From People Of Color Than Romney Did, or look at the raw data (source)

(http://slatestarcodex.com/blog_images/trumpw_exitpolls.png)

Trump made gains among blacks. He made gains among Latinos. He made gains among Asians. The only major racial group where he didn’t get a gain of greater than 5% was white people. I want to repeat that: the group where Trump’s message resonated least over what we would predict from a generic Republican was the white population.

Nor was there some surge in white turnout. I don’t think we have official numbers yet, but by eyeballing what data we have it looks very much like whites turned out in equal or lesser numbers this year than in 2012, 2008, and so on.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 19, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
VERY interesting side note on the 2016 race.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/ (http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/)

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I have a different perspective. Back in October 2015, I wrote that the picture of Trump as “the white power candidate” and “the first openly white supremacist candidate to have a shot at the Presidency in the modern era” was overblown. I said that “the media narrative that Trump is doing some kind of special appeal-to-white-voters voodoo is unsupported by any polling data”, and predicted that:

    If Trump were the Republican nominee, he could probably count on equal or greater support from minorities as Romney or McCain before him.

Now the votes are in, and Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him. You can read the Washington Post article, Trump Got More Votes From People Of Color Than Romney Did, or look at the raw data (source)

(http://slatestarcodex.com/blog_images/trumpw_exitpolls.png)

Trump made gains among blacks. He made gains among Latinos. He made gains among Asians. The only major racial group where he didn’t get a gain of greater than 5% was white people. I want to repeat that: the group where Trump’s message resonated least over what we would predict from a generic Republican was the white population.

Nor was there some surge in white turnout. I don’t think we have official numbers yet, but by eyeballing what data we have it looks very much like whites turned out in equal or lesser numbers this year than in 2012, 2008, and so on.

This is why I am not super eager to make this into a White Tribe thing. About 1/3 of most minorities - especially first generation immigrants - our on our side. They came to America for the reasons we loved er, and they feel betrayed that Americans let America be destroyed and transformed into just another corrupt 3rd world pit.  The longer we can hold out against a full on "you have to be white or ya can't join" tribe, the better off we will be.  I know others are less optimistic about multi-ethic shared civic values based tribes, but ultimately it was that sort of tribe that gave America her power to begin with. Yes, there may be a path back after a white tribe wins... but..  well

I  had a friend in one of those big companies , who hired diversity training before diversity training became a fad. My buddy was attending in LA so  there were a lot of different skin colors. And the first thing this diversity teacher did was tell the minorities to get up, find a white person and shake their hand, because white (American)  people were unique in history in voting to share their power.  And even 30 years ago the anger the minorities had at that was palpable ( but they did it)

And look where voluntarily  sharing power has got us . Look at what bending over backwards to give them a leg up for 50 years has got us. I don't see a successful and victorious  white tribe ever doing that again. I think we will loose that part of America, and it makes me sad.  I always liked the melting pot.
I always thought it was a good idea.  But it only works when we are Americans first. Its no mistake that they hyphenate it  Mexican-American and not American-Mexican.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQl6XBo64M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQl6XBo64M)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 19, 2016, 12:31:16 PM
http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/ (http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/)

That was an interesting essay Weisshaupt - thanks for posting. I encourage everyone to give it a read.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 19, 2016, 04:01:16 PM
Speaking of ...

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The Structure of American Racial Détente

The rules of the deal were pretty straightforward. For whites, they stated that outright racist statements and explicit appeals to white racial identity were essentially banned. Along with this, whites accepted a double standard about the appropriateness of cultural and political tribalism. For obvious and reasonable historical and economic reasons, black and brown people explicitly pursuing their own interests was viewed differently than whites doing the same thing.

The other side of the deal was that so long as white people were sufficiently punished for acts of outright racism, minority leaders and communities would be cautious with accusations of racism. The key here was that once leveled and proved, the accusation of racism was a blow most whites could not come back from. From Jimmy the Greek to Michael Richardson, being labeled a racist was a black mark that did not wash off easily.

Wait, what?  From whence came these rules, 'cause I don't remember agreeing, much less being asked.

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... If a generation of Americans who lived through the racism, riots, anguish, and terror of the civil rights movement were able to trust each other’s decency and create cultural codes and norms to punish abject racism, we should be able to do it, too. But the truly scary thing is that, at this moment, it doesn’t appear we want to.

WTH would we?  Too many of us are looking at the chimp-outs occurring on a regular basis and speculating on the rightness of what the old folks knew about trying to live with the "Black community".
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 20, 2016, 09:07:00 AM
I see schisms developing within the remains of the democrat party and one of the largest cracks is along the racial border. "Black America" (at least of the politically active leftist variety) is none too enthralled with the "safety pin generation". They wanna fight and act out - not be weepy and disconsolate.

The power elites  within the DNC have either lost their gig, are under investigation of indictment, or just got a very public smackdown. The piranha are circling the tank to see who will feed on whom. What can we do to help them along? LOL

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaNCVXzms0Q#)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on November 20, 2016, 10:14:25 AM
For one, Mark Levin's been cheering the possible elevation of Keith "X" Ellison as DNC chairman.  It's a step past staying out of the way of one's enemy as they're screwing up and onto urge 'em on.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 20, 2016, 12:22:43 PM
To be honest, I haven't followed Levin for a while. His butthurt over Trump was embarrassing - like seeing someone poop their pants. So I can't speculate his reasoning behind his pronouncement.

I can see taunting them to promote ellison, but why stop halfway? Why not promote Al Sharpton? Then they would really be showing their true colors.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 20, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
They've already had Hussein Obama at the apex. No one else is extreme in comparison. Go Ellison.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on November 20, 2016, 06:35:50 PM
They are doing us an enormous favor with these protests riots dragging on and on. It's as if they wanted to boldly underscore America's decision on Nov. 8th as absolutely the correct one. I bet if the election were held today Trump would win with an even bigger margin.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
For one, Mark Levin's been cheering the possible elevation of Keith "X" Ellison as DNC chairman.  It's a step past staying out of the way of one's enemy as they're screwing up and onto urge 'em on.

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14711.0 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=14711.0)

Well, just a few of us thought the more batshyt crazy the Dem's get the better...now we can count a few more.  If we keep saying it is a stupid choice they are more likely to stick with it.

 ::evil::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
They are doing us an enormous favor with these protests riots dragging on and on. It's as if they wanted to boldly underscore America's decision on Nov. 8th as absolutely the correct one. I bet if the election were held today Trump would win with an even bigger margin.

Yup.

And BLM types spurred on my Obama, RaceBait,Inc and sundry idiots on the left isn't helping Dem prospects either.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/crime/article/SAPD-officer-shot-killed-near-police-HQ-downtown-10626488.php (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/crime/article/SAPD-officer-shot-killed-near-police-HQ-downtown-10626488.php)

The perp -

(http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-20-at-7.17.09-PM.png)

Another good development would be seeing the leadership start refusing to play pattycake with libiot Pol's and community agitators...but I am not going to hold my breath...any change that is coming in those ranks has to come from within those ranks.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: AlanS on November 20, 2016, 10:03:55 PM
(http://www.political-humor.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/i-love-the-sound-of-liberals.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2016, 07:01:54 AM
It sounds like...Victory.   ;D

Surf's up!  Charlie don't surf!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2016, 07:52:12 AM
Quote from: Weisshaupt
the chance of liberals swallowing their own pride and egos long enough to do that is zero. If that means a White Nationalist Movement, then fine. Not my first choice, but that would be assuming I had one.  I don't.  Besides aren't we supposed to be a minority any day now?

I am fine with White Nationalism at this point.  Intellectually I would have preferred a form of Civic Nationalism, but the Left destroyed the conditions that could have permitted a true and genuine multi-racial nation.  We had something closer to it before, when we had people of different races but who conformed to a backdrop culture of Anglo-Saxon origin and temperament.  The Left blew that out of the water and transformed it into a bunch of individual nations united by their opposition to that backdrop Anglo-Saxon nation.  So if that backdrop nation is to survive at all, it will now have to become self-consciously ethnic.  It has already begun.

White people no longer give a f**k about being called racist.  The Left is going to wish to hell it had let sleeping dogs lie.

Check this out -

http://www.weaselzippers.us/308688-8-arrested-during-clash-between-white-lives-matter-and-black-lives-matter-protests-in-austin-tx/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/308688-8-arrested-during-clash-between-white-lives-matter-and-black-lives-matter-protests-in-austin-tx/)

I didn't even know there was a WLM outfit...but, why not?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 21, 2016, 10:20:25 AM
Judging from the names of those arrested it looks like whitie came out on the short end of the stick....again.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 21, 2016, 08:01:34 PM
Voting in the US from the beginning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c-Qrb6AOx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c-Qrb6AOx4)

The Nort Vs South thing was and remained in evidence for a really, really long time. Its doesn't really start to disappear till after Reagan's second term.

You see the first real hints of the Urban/Rural divide in Nixon's election , Bush Sr.  you start seeing those state wide bands of color break up .. Bush Gore is the first time we really start seeing the Rural/Urban divide in full flower ( a fact that makes John Titor's accurate predication in 2000  of the divide even more remarkable)


Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 23, 2016, 08:24:11 AM
We need a better Judge of the Change...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/309223-6-rebel-electors-have-signed-agreement-to-try-to-block-trump/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/309223-6-rebel-electors-have-signed-agreement-to-try-to-block-trump/)

...but the final judge is us...nullifying an election would be just one way to initiate the violent breakup of the nation...

...y'all do what you think you must, we'll do the same...

...y'all have a nice day now.


And the Clintonites...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/scientists-find-persuasive-evidence-vote-hacking-demand-clinton-recount-3-states (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-22/scientists-find-persuasive-evidence-vote-hacking-demand-clinton-recount-3-states)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTR7V-HhjOc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTR7V-HhjOc)

Man, is that rich coming from this filthy corrupt bunch!  I guess if somebody overcame the Soros-machine rigging, that is cause for contesting because the cheating didn't work as promised!

 ::laughonfloor::

Go ahead, make my day...press the issue!  Please!

 ::stirpot::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 27, 2016, 12:36:35 PM
More #TrickleDownPetulance -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/11/26/clinton-campaign-will-participate-in-wisconsin-recount-with-an-eye-on-outside-interference-lawyer-says/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pn-recount-1234pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b995b3625647 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/11/26/clinton-campaign-will-participate-in-wisconsin-recount-with-an-eye-on-outside-interference-lawyer-says/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pn-recount-1234pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b995b3625647)

I remember Bill Clinton whipping out the 'ol "that dog won't hunt" line at opponents before...which is funny because they only thing he hunted and preyed upon were vulnerable women....

In this case I guess in this case we can say "that bitch won't heel", eh?

Yeah, open up a can, see how that works out for ya!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 27, 2016, 03:25:01 PM

Yeah, open up a can, see how that works out for ya!   ::mooning::

Several years ago I taught a Sunday school course that had many theological threads running through the lessons. One of them was that, when God was moving in a direction, no man-made plans would be able to end run those plans. We brought it down to a personal level - that is to say, if you were sure that "X" was God's will for you (and not simply a hunch or a "feeling" you had), that men would not be able to derail your progress (although they would attempt to place obstacles in your path). Thus, when the going got tough, as it usually does, one was to proceed with confidence; and certainly no fear.

My take on the election is that God intervened in our reality & created an outcome that we could not have achieved solely on our own. God certainly didn't "create" votes, but He used & motivated people to take action in the direction of what they knew was right...and He guided the process.

Nothing the Left does will alter that outcome. Trump will create a favorable economic climate that will gradually lead to increased prosperity. It already HAS created a general feeling of hope for the future & a better feeling about one's country and the direction in which we're headed.

And even when the Left attempts to claim that the turnabout was the result of Obama's policies "finally kicking in" - the people will know it as pure bullsh*t, and we, the nation, the culture & the economy will continue to steam-roll ahead.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2016, 08:07:22 AM
Yeah...I think  this post at American Thinker by Richard Baehr is one the money...this stunt is all about trying to de-legitimize Trump and derail his mandate before it can start (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html)...and it is telling that now that her nemesis has been thwarted, that Stein is OK with teaming up with Clinton on this...I guess Ruling Class Progs and Greenies both want to see Trump's agenda derailed...yet they are clueless to the downstream ramifications of such tactics...well, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it...one way or another the Piper will be paid...now...later...whatever.

Odd isn't it...that this goes ignored... (http://iotwreport.com/republican-michigan-elector-says-hes-received-death-threats-ordering-him-to-change-his-vote-to-clinton-or-his-brains-will-be-blown-out/)which sends another message that only certain lives matter...and that that determination depends solely on the beholder and not some impartial colorblind justice system people imagine existing.

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/peoples_resource/image/41207-Recount_Hillary_Quote_Threat.jpg)

(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Recount_Thelma_Louise_Hillary.jpg)

Couldn't be done without this a-hole's money and direct order!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw8um9bUkAApwdb.jpg)

And yeah...it should say "Dead, not Alive"!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 28, 2016, 10:03:53 AM
Yeah...I think  this post at American Thinker by Richard Baehr is one the money...this stunt is all about trying to de-legitimize Trump and derail his mandate before it can start (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html).

It shows two women cun*ts who care not for their country & who see the citizenry as objects/subjects, not people. These b*tches can burn in their own massively weighty & discouraged disappointment.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2016, 11:24:53 AM
Yeah...I think  this post at American Thinker by Richard Baehr is one the money...this stunt is all about trying to de-legitimize Trump and derail his mandate before it can start (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html).

It shows two women cun*ts who care not for their country & who see the citizenry as objects/subjects, not people. These b*tches can burn in their own massively weighty & discouraged disappointment.

Don't forgive them O Lord...for they know full well what they doeth!  Do unto them...and put some stink on it!   ::praying::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on November 28, 2016, 11:50:04 AM

Don't forgive them O Lord...for they know full well what they doeth!  Do unto them...and put some stink on it!   ::praying::

All taken from God's perfect & Holy Word.

Psalm 1:6
6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Psalm 37: 13-15
13 The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.

Psalm 55:15

15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psalm 58:6
6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD.

Psalm 59:12
12 For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.

Psalm 137:9 (for their families, "Hi Chelsea!")
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 28, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/11/28/30-adjectives-to-describe-trump/ (https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/11/28/30-adjectives-to-describe-trump/)

MDB - Troll Level: Grand Master.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 28, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/11/28/30-adjectives-to-describe-trump/ (https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/11/28/30-adjectives-to-describe-trump/)

MDB - Troll Level: Grand Master.


Has anyone ever actually encountered one of these drones in the meat world?
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 29, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
MDB's schtick is the best...good click/comment-bait at ZH...

Hilarious list too...could all be summed up in one word - white.  All progs feel that way...even the ones in their camp guilty about being white.

PS-Hey Pablo, anything we can do to expedite 55:15 I'm all for!   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 29, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
Hilarious...still re-counting in WI and no change expected...MI certified Trump...Stein blew a deadline for one state, I forget which...doesn't matter...

And Team Clinton is saying keep the WI re-count going...and that tighter difference in NC y'all can ignore... (http://www.weaselzippers.us/310272-clinton-lawyer-supports-recount-in-wisconsin-but-urges-nc-gov-to-stop-his-recount-with-smaller-difference/)

Fugly criminal dyke better spend her time and money more wisely...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/67fc20603d88c59863e2fa8d6af6a4a31e0240c4e0e6442342a5c4931814d988.jpg)

...like relocating to a non-extradition nation!!!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on November 30, 2016, 07:03:12 AM
The Trump accusers...in the memory hole...

http://iotwreport.com/ten-women-mysteriously-disappear-and-it-is-probably-because-of-hillary-clinton/ (http://iotwreport.com/ten-women-mysteriously-disappear-and-it-is-probably-because-of-hillary-clinton/)

...this is my shocked face -

No, really...it is supposed to look blank...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2016, 07:46:52 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/310942-chelsea-handler-hillary-won-popular-vote-sign-petition-that-that-should-make-her-president/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/310942-chelsea-handler-hillary-won-popular-vote-sign-petition-that-that-should-make-her-president/)

Yeah, I know...who?

Some no-talent has-been/never-was whatever...had/has a booze problem...guessing that surfaced again...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20bc4252c770c42a73b688fc74370d4eaf95470167d771238033d6887f0cbaa4.jpg)

Just a another spoiled drunken libtard...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/2fs2I4ujlBf20/giphy.gif)

 ::hysterical::

And that re-count crap is bombing badly...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ce4b6c0463e8a14c7daa1c6bac4d967a8c5ace6e8fd3b9ad5c0dc3d5a529b047.jpg)

 ::rolllaughing::



Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 02, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
I am sick of hearing this popular vote argument.  For one, that is not how presidents are elected in this country -- and for very good reasons.  These dumbsh*ts act as if they're the first ones to demand it be by popular vote.  Uhh yeah, towering intellects in the 18th century already hashed out and quashed that argument, snowflake.

Second, I doubt she even truly won the popular vote anyway.  The number of non-citizens and non-breathers who voted for her should be discounted from her vote totals.

Their goal with all of this is to cast a pall on the new administration, and they will spend the next 4 years repeating the conclusion that Trump has no mandate. I hope he doesn't fall for that.  I don't think he will.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2016, 11:47:48 AM
Yeah, I don't think he will either...and there will be moments of levity where he skewers them with their own words and actions to drive it home while he grins with deplorable glee.

 :D

These little darlings have only begun to have their flimsy little glass safe areas violated...

 ::whoohoo::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 02, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15193529_1388706884508032_6499302647212282705_n.jpg?oh=b4686206c828baf12113e7a908b0984b&oe=58C024C7)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on December 02, 2016, 09:56:09 PM
Yet it isn't costing her anything....except her reputation.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 04, 2016, 12:55:05 PM
Hi Jill-Jill Stein-Stein!  ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy1rtXIUUAAyToN.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 04, 2016, 09:14:14 PM
So my understanding of the Wisconsin recount is that the net change is +3....for Trump!  LOL
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2016, 07:25:38 AM
The incidence of cheating always slants the prog way...all that tells me is that they either haven't gotten to the heart of the prog precincts yet...or they are scared to reveal the cheating that would make the Trump gains even more dramatic.

Plus, the only reason to do this is so Green Party Jill can rake in more Green from idiots (https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-green-party-drops-election-recount-bid-pennsylvania-020036851.html)...as usual, with all leftists its always about power and money.

And the only reason Clinton is going along with it is because it is all part of the D-MC de-legitimization efforts to derail the Trump Admin before it is even sworn in.

All these clowns deserve to have their teeth kicked in.

ETA - After 35%...Trump has picked up 39 more votes.

http://iotwreport.com/after-35-of-the-votes-recounted-in-wisconsin-trump-extends-his-lead/ (http://iotwreport.com/after-35-of-the-votes-recounted-in-wisconsin-trump-extends-his-lead/)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 06, 2016, 01:56:54 PM
Oh yeah...here we go!!!  What we've been waiting for!!!

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e67536d35081f1bcdad8b1432d5eee41629d29402439f93d798868f3421aec00.gif)

One-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from an unprecedented statewide recount of presidential election results because of problems with ballots.

Michigan’s largest county voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results late last month.

Most of those are in heavily Democratic Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.

According to state law, precincts whose poll books don’t match with ballots can’t be recounted. If that happens, original election results stand.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/311728-half-of-detroit-where-hillary-may-lose-votes-may-be-ineligible-for-recount/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/311728-half-of-detroit-where-hillary-may-lose-votes-may-be-ineligible-for-recount/)

How ironic!  All that cheating pissed away!!!

 ::hysterical::

Serves 'em right!!!

 ::clapping::

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46c2d27de68151bc1cdee65cd0ce092ee0e48d866e0c9c3b07b432bce502e2ca.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 08, 2016, 07:39:59 AM
WI update:

Trump + 105

Clinton - 41

Swing of 146 for Trump.  Recount Queen Stein - Zip, Zero, Nada!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/312129-312129/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/312129-312129/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 13, 2016, 06:57:01 AM
Final tally in WI recount nets Trump 131 votes.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/completed-wisconsin-recount-widens-donald-trump-s-lead-by-votes/article_3f61c6ac-5b18-5c27-bf38-e537146bbcdd.html (http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/completed-wisconsin-recount-widens-donald-trump-s-lead-by-votes/article_3f61c6ac-5b18-5c27-bf38-e537146bbcdd.html)

Certified winner in WI & PA.

https://www.apnews.com/322db08ce6eb49fb910d5a84de3cccb8/US-judge-rejects-Green-Party's-Pennsylvania-recount-case (https://www.apnews.com/322db08ce6eb49fb910d5a84de3cccb8/US-judge-rejects-Green-Party's-Pennsylvania-recount-case)

All the retards have left in their arsenal of bitterness is hoping enough faithless electors can be bullied, threatened and bribed to corrupt the process ad throw into into the House for defeat...unless enough time can be dragged out to let the Deep State manufacture enough falsified information as possible to turn that into a sham as well...

Top Clinton creep and Pizzagate pedophile Podesta is pushing for elector mischief (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/clinton-campaign-backs-call-for-intelligence-briefing-before-electoral-college-vote-232512) and Darth Obama is carrying that torch as well (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/12/sore-loser-obama-turns-to-russian-hacking-to-delegitimize-trumps-triumph.html) and in a clear sign that the "fake news" being generated by the Democrat-Media Complex is starting to be hard to handle even for insiders who often get tripped up whenever they forget what lie they are on (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/confusion-wh-spokesman-claims-china-hacked-election/), only to be reminded by a fellow traveler in the presscorpse to get back on script...followed by a hearty chortle among fellow fifth columnists...so this "fake news" crap about Russia, hacking and Trump is going to continue...and Trump needs to ridicule this whenever asked, ignore it otherwise and move forward with his plans and in private take names and take aim.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 13, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Perry for DOE?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-13/trump-picks-rick-perry-lead-energy-department-he-wanted-do-away-2011 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-13/trump-picks-rick-perry-lead-energy-department-he-wanted-do-away-2011)

Works for me...as long as he hasn't changed his mind as to his mission!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Predator Don on December 13, 2016, 04:23:00 PM
End it Rick......end it.

What an acceptance speech it could be. " I humbly accept the position and my first order of business is to re locate the DOE employees, offer early retirement packages or in the case of democrats, just fire their azz." " Last one out turn off the lights, because it's the only energy this place has saved."
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 14, 2016, 07:08:38 AM
Yeah, that'd be swell!

And the angst of the careerists to Trump's transition questionaires give me the desire to see upper echelon clowns begging to keep their positions lined up outside the Oval Office door to look a lot like this:

Door swings open, hunched careerist slumped over and sobbing exits the Oval Office, from inside a voice bellows "Next!".

The next victim enters...sounds of mumbling...then that voice once again erupts "Your fired!"...door swings open..."Next!".

 :D
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 14, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
No surprise to us...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/voter-fraud-michigan-recount-uncovers-many-votes-37-detroit-precincts/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/voter-fraud-michigan-recount-uncovers-many-votes-37-detroit-precincts/)

Nice to see cheaters don't prosper. 
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: John Florida on December 14, 2016, 09:52:20 AM
No surprise to us...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/voter-fraud-michigan-recount-uncovers-many-votes-37-detroit-precincts/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/voter-fraud-michigan-recount-uncovers-many-votes-37-detroit-precincts/)

Nice to see cheaters don't prosper.


   Those damned Russians!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 14, 2016, 04:07:17 PM
Big surprise, the DoE is refusing to cooperate:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/12/13/energy-dept-rejects-trumps-request-to-name-climate-change-workers-who-remain-worried (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/12/13/energy-dept-rejects-trumps-request-to-name-climate-change-workers-who-remain-worried)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on December 14, 2016, 04:25:30 PM
If Republicans weren't such pussies, they'd introduce a bill, today, to defund the DoE.  You do not fund rogue government agencies.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 14, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
"We" don't.  You don't.  Apparently, they DO.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 15, 2016, 07:49:10 AM
Another "Goodbye head/hello balls" moment brought to you by ZombieSlayer Chainsaws and their all new BoneShredderTM product line specifically created to tackle the most demanding situations!

Happy Sawing!!!   :D

ETA - Maybe the anti-Trump terrorists threatening Electors should be first on the menu, eh?  After all, doesn't appear like any authority is looking into this hack, right?

https://nypost.com/2016/12/14/electors-are-being-harassed-threatened-in-bid-to-stop-trump/

Now we don our goalie masks, fa la la la la la...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 15, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
Do you guys think they are seriously going to try to force a new election?  They are not backing off of this ridiculous "the Russians did it!" narrative.  Now they are claiming Putin himself was personally involved in it.  There is clearly collusion with their fellow travelers in promulgating this narrative, because now MPs in Britain are claiming the Russians were responsible for the Brexit vote too.  They're even claiming Russian agents are behind the mass sex assaults in Germany as a means of undermining Mama Merkel.  This Russian narrative seems to have become their one-size-fits-all narrative. It couldn't possibly be that people across the Western world have simply had enough of their bullsh*t, could it?

We knew they would not allow anyone to simply remove their tentacles from the levers of power.  I am telling you this now -- if there is an attempt to deny the duly elected President then a whole lot of someones need to be put in front of walls and shot.  Everybody at the gun forums are always like "when do you know if it's time for 2nd Amendment solutions?"  Well that is your answer.  If they attempt to pull off an outright coup d'etat then it is time for violent resistance.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 15, 2016, 11:18:09 AM
BREAKING!
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2016%20Blog%20Art/Russian%20Hackers_zpsaagieevo.png)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 15, 2016, 11:33:09 AM
Do you guys think they are seriously going to try to force a new election?  They are not backing off of this ridiculous "the Russians did it!" narrative.  Now they are claiming Putin himself was personally involved in it.  There is clearly collusion with their fellow travelers in promulgating this narrative, because now MPs in Britain are claiming the Russians were responsible for the Brexit vote too.  They're even claiming Russian agents are behind the mass sex assaults in Germany as a means of undermining Mama Merkel.  This Russian narrative seems to have become their one-size-fits-all narrative. It couldn't possibly be that people across the Western world have simply had enough of their bullsh*t, could it?

We knew they would not allow anyone to simply remove their tentacles from the levers of power.  I am telling you this now -- if there is an attempt to deny the duly elected President then a whole lot of someones need to be put in front of walls and shot.  Everybody at the gun forums are always like "when do you know if it's time for 2nd Amendment solutions?"  Well that is your answer.  If they attempt to pull off an outright coup d'etat then it is time for violent resistance.

Yup.

I'll lend a finger...i got index fingers with funny inward-thrusting spasms just waiting to be exploited...I have a feeling they'll be no shortage of targets if Trump is denied in any way or harmed in any way...

I'm not just sayin', I'm sayin'!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: richb on December 15, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
What I don't get,  if the Russians were going to mess with the election,  that they would do it for Hillary,  not Trump.    Hillary would have just meant another 4-8 years of Obama like policies.   As is another regime they could walk all over.    Trump isn't going to let the Russians continue that.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pandora on December 15, 2016, 04:48:34 PM
All the talk about the Russians conveniently deflects attention from the CONTENT OF THE EMAILS.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: ToddF on December 15, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
No, they're not trying to force a new election.  They're trying to steal this one, what with the ongoing threats against electors.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 15, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
I predict their next step is going to be new "intelligence reports" that link Trump directly to this supposed Russian hacking effort.  They will then pursue the angle that he was an active participant.  Or maybe they'll just try to kill him.  They keep upping the ante, so I am not sure what else could be next.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on December 15, 2016, 06:45:17 PM
What I don't get,  if the Russians were going to mess with the election,  that they would do it for Hillary,  not Trump.    Hillary would have just meant another 4-8 years of Obama like policies.   As is another regime they could walk all over.    Trump isn't going to let the Russians continue that.

Obama-like polices are the problem for Russia.  The US is too invested in te middle east because of petro-dollar concerns. I think it is very likely a President Clinton would have escalated the conflict there - possibly to the brink of Nuclear war - not a full exchange, but tactical exchanges in the proxy nations, with the looming threat of a full on  attack.  I think its entirely possible that Russia might ave wanted to avoid that. But its also equally possible they just wanted to sow and exacerbate our divisions such that we continue to concentrate more on internal issues and less on external ones.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 15, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
(http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/imageedit_989_8661071643.jpg?w=500&h=500)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 15, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
Nothing they attempt will work (except maybe a shmear/tarnish against Trump's reign...which will clear up once the economic engine kicks in). Electoral College overturn odds are w-a-y small. If they get aggressive, they'll be shot. As in, dead.

Nothing. They. Do. Will. Work.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2016, 07:19:40 AM
What I don't get,  if the Russians were going to mess with the election,  that they would do it for Hillary,  not Trump.    Hillary would have just meant another 4-8 years of Obama like policies.   As is another regime they could walk all over.    Trump isn't going to let the Russians continue that.

Obama-like polices are the problem for Russia.  The US is too invested in te middle east because of petro-dollar concerns. I think it is very likely a President Clinton would have escalated the conflict there - possibly to the brink of Nuclear war - not a full exchange, but tactical exchanges in the proxy nations, with the looming threat of a full on  attack.  I think its entirely possible that Russia might ave wanted to avoid that. But its also equally possible they just wanted to sow and exacerbate our divisions such that we continue to concentrate more on internal issues and less on external ones.

Yes, and Pan is right though, the Russia angle is clouding the fact that the content of the emails is damaging, evidence of vast corruption on a scale heretofore only hurled as a baseless allegation at Conservatives for over 30 years and for which NONE of the disclosures has been proven false.  The fact that the Russia angle if argued intelligently in no way will make Clinton ever look better than Trump is DOA, the D-MC does not care about that, all they want is to muddy the waters enough to deflect from the exposed dirty laundry long enough to muck up the proceedings with the goal of overthrowing the election result...and if that is not achieved they will keep pressing this in furtherance of the de-legitimizing goal of weakening Trump's mandate.  At some point, I would argue early in his term (like, as soon as the Inaugural crap is over!) Trump will have to take steps to end this BS meme.

I have to say, one way or another I am going to have some fun...the form it takes is entirely up to the players...but let there be no misunderstanding as to the consequences for the statists...their days are numbered, it's up to them the length of it.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Dear D-MC fake news pimps...NOT Russia!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/breaking-julian-assange-speaks-sean-hannity-confirms-russia-not-hack-dnc-audio/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/breaking-julian-assange-speaks-sean-hannity-confirms-russia-not-hack-dnc-audio/)

Investigate closer to (your) home!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on December 16, 2016, 11:39:36 AM
The DNC leaks were probably from Seth Rich, or some other angry Bernie supporter who saw how the DNC totally shot down their guy in favor of the Hildabeast.

The Podesta emails could have come from virtually anywhere.  He opened a link to change his Gmail password from a spoofed email.  In other words he just gave somebody his Gmail login credentials and they downloaded everything.  Yeah it could have been a state actor, but it could have just as easily been some Nigerian scam artists.

There's also the real possibility that there are people within the government doing this.  Rumor has it that the FBI in particular has a lot of agents not at all pleased with what their political masters are trying to inflict on this country.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2016, 11:56:27 AM
Yup.

But J-Mac & Pizza Lindsey keep playing the fool to the Establishment Court...

You see this?  I absolutely love this!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-16/putin-lashes-out-obama-show-some-proof-or-shut (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-16/putin-lashes-out-obama-show-some-proof-or-shut)

Prove it or STFU!   ::clapping::

They can't...all they have is yapping flaps!!!

I never thought I would see the day when America was led by such complete buffoons!  But then again I never thought they'd be stupid enough to put a psychotic Manchurian Candidate in office either, so...

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 17, 2016, 10:40:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz7rF9WUQAAJljM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2016, 07:14:29 AM
 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on December 19, 2016, 11:22:25 AM
Watch the votes Electoral being recorded:

http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/ (http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2016, 11:48:51 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/)

WZ keping tabs too.

Hey, whatever happened to that one faithless elector, that dude mouthing off who got caught being a perv?  Wonder how his day is going?   ::pokeineye::

 ;D

And yeah, if you thought today was going to be progs behaving badly (or more accurately - typically!) yeah, you won't be disappointed -

Psycho Conyers - Electoral College be rayciss n' shyt!

http://www.weaselzippers.us/314310-dem-rep-john-conyers-claiming-electoral-college-is-rooted-in-slavery/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/314310-dem-rep-john-conyers-claiming-electoral-college-is-rooted-in-slavery/)

No, nutso...you be rayciss n' shyt...and stoopit!  This is working just as the Founders intended, bitch!   ::mooning::

And scum-sucking Hollyweirdo's don't want to miss out on the dumbshyt-of-the-year honors either -

http://iotwreport.com/celebrities-begin-targeting-electors-by-name/ (http://iotwreport.com/celebrities-begin-targeting-electors-by-name/)

Same trash that threatened to leave the country if the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi was rejected...liars, thugs and punks!   ::mooning::

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ce9685bdfceeacdc77de16e5f4729422219a654145bbba9ede845ad8941c964b.jpg)

And I'll give A-Hole-Rod a small nod...ever he knows it is stupid to mess with the EC -

http://iotwreport.com/david-axelrod-warns-elector-defections-would-rip-country-apart/ (http://iotwreport.com/david-axelrod-warns-elector-defections-would-rip-country-apart/)

...but maybe he forgot the part that the more stupid and dependent you make your minions...the more your minions will set the entire show on fire out of spite and stupidity...

 ::)

Anyway...end this thing...get to sweepin' already!  We got mountains of shyt to sweep out!

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/337ca78376716231d4f091f9149948852ecaf92949c0422c7d838eb8a1d9a037.jpg)

H/T-WZ
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
If prog idjits (I repeat myself!) had their way...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/strawman-12-15-16.jpg)

It all depends on who your definition of strawman is...is.

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/58543a27a8448.jpeg)

 ::mooning::

More butthurt cream, aisle 2!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 19, 2016, 01:50:19 PM
If prog idjits (I repeat myself!) had their way...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/strawman-12-15-16.jpg)


I guess that makes it official: suggestions that we live in a Democracy (or as Hillary mentioned twice in her concession speech, "Constitutional Democracy") are a, uhm...Strawman argument. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Weisshaupt on December 19, 2016, 03:18:49 PM
A faithless elector is Minnesota- apparently a darker skinned guy, named Muhammad Abdurrahman, a former Bernie Sanders delegate to the Democratic National Convention, voted for Trump instead of Clinton.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/first-faithless-elector-emerges-minnesota-refuses-vote-hillary-clinton (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/first-faithless-elector-emerges-minnesota-refuses-vote-hillary-clinton)

see also http://www.ajc.com/news/national/electoral-college-vote-live-updates-state-state-voting/sy5C2hooqtnMG8tEviTATN/ (http://www.ajc.com/news/national/electoral-college-vote-live-updates-state-state-voting/sy5C2hooqtnMG8tEviTATN/)  for a running tally

Quote
Dec 19, 2016 3:47 PM EST Four Democratic voters in Washington chose not to vote for Hillary Clinton, becoming "faithless" voters. Clinton took the other 8 votes in the state. Three Democratic electors have tried to be "faithless" by not voting for Clinton. One in Maine, one in Minnesota and one in Colorado. Those votes were changed and registered for Clinton.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 19, 2016, 04:36:24 PM
Over. It's over.

Dec 19, 2016 5:30 PM EST Donald Trump has been elected president as he passes 270 Electoral votes.

...As Hillary still Can't Understand Normal vote Tally


Edit: 5:42 EST, up to 304 secured electoral votes.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 20, 2016, 07:22:12 AM
So, it went from:

First Loss - Election Night:  306-232

Second Loss - Recount:  Didin't pick up  ::cussing::

Third and Final Loss (Despite pleas by the butthurt to turn the EC into a free-for-all):  304-227-7

Steeeeee-rike three, 'yer out!!!   ::cool::

And...ummm....

"...one voting for Faith Spotted Eagle"

Duh Fuqh?

https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/culture/thing-about-skins/native-grandmothers-defend-mother-earth-faith-spotted-eagle-kicks-serious-knowledge-about-keystone-xl/

 ::facepalm::

One faithless elector had some crazy shyt in the peacepipe, eh?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 20, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
Correction on that faithless Minnesota elector...the State cracked down on his buttocks...

"In Minnesota, one of the state’s 10 electors would not cast his vote for Clinton as required under state law, prompting his dismissal and an alternate to be sworn in. All 10 of the state’s electoral votes were then cast for her."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-electoralcollege-idUSKBN1480FQ?il=0 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-electoralcollege-idUSKBN1480FQ?il=0)

Reuters wouldn't lie...about this...I'm sure they applauded Minnestupid wasting its votes on the Bloody Bitch of Benghazi.   ::unknowncomic::

And in WI this piece of she-lindburger lost it...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/19/woman_snaps_after_ohio_certifies_electoral_college_votes_for_trump_this_is_my_america.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/19/woman_snaps_after_ohio_certifies_electoral_college_votes_for_trump_this_is_my_america.html)

Heh, what a loon!  Apparently she is totally bleeped in the head, doesn't know how things are supposed to work in America as Founded...if anyone should leave it should be this butthurt moron!

And wow, Moron.Org announcing more to come?  Like it takes a genius to see progtards going apeshyt all the time is tough call?!   ::laughonfloor::

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Septugenarian on December 20, 2016, 10:32:31 AM
No doubt that one was from western Washington state.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2016, 07:55:45 AM
Could have been from Minnestupid too...or the Dakota's...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2016, 07:57:11 AM
Some promising news...71% of American's not buying the Fake News meme of "Russia did it!" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/71-americans-dont-believe-russia-was-responsible-election-related-hacks), heh, that's gotta sting!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 22, 2016, 11:58:56 AM
No doubt that one was from western Washington state.

Jeepers Cripes!  You know, I really wasn't wanting to go chase down proof worse comes from Minnestupid...this one literally fell off the stupid tree in front of me...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/315101-minnesota-dem-lawmaker-says-shes-a-two-spirit-lesbian-and-wont-be-assimilated/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/315101-minnesota-dem-lawmaker-says-shes-a-two-spirit-lesbian-and-wont-be-assimilated/)

 ::facepalm::

...so embarrassing...   ::unknowncomic::

Won't be assimilated, eh?  Then why is it off the reservation...out here, this is our land, moron!   ::asskicking::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on December 22, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Washington State - Keeping it weird since 1889
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 25, 2016, 04:17:49 PM
I posted this on Twitter a little bit ago. This is both something I've noticed: more people specifically wishing me a "Merry Christmas" (I always say it, but have received more "Happy Holiday" replies in years past; and something that's helped me move away from the urge to smash the elections results in people's faces...like a whipped-cream pie.

I think (think...) I'm just about done spiking the ball - now moving forward...full steam ahead with business.

Quote
“There’s a new #hope, an #optimism. There’s a good spirit in #America,”
~@JerryFalwellJr @FoxNewsSunday #Election2016

I agree. And only those who are adult in their attitudes, thinking & actions will prosper in the coming years. Those yearning for a culture in which they’re “given” the things they cannot attain themselves will be disappointed (but they won’t blame themselves).

Happy New Year! Happy 2017.
#WinFromWithin & #MakeItCount!

(https://teamlegionnaire.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/falwell-on-trump.png?w=594)
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on December 26, 2016, 07:37:36 AM
I agree.  I have received more "Merry Christmas!" greetings and with genuine cheer this year than any I can recall the past several years and I don't have to add militant cheerfulness to my return wish, normal cheer will do!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 12, 2017, 10:54:39 AM
Damnit, Kurt!  Just shut up already and let them go!

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/01/12/why-californias-silly-succession-scheme-cant-succeed-n2269854 (http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/01/12/why-californias-silly-succession-scheme-cant-succeed-n2269854)

Act first...details later!  You're spoiling the emotive impact here.

Let Them Go!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on January 12, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
FBI being investigated for possible, uhm...misconduct whilst peering into Hillary Clinton's, uhm...email misconduct.

Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.0dcc71caff72)

You lost, guys. It wasn't Russia & it wasn't the FBI. It was Hillary.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 13, 2017, 06:54:03 AM
FBI being investigated for possible, uhm...misconduct whilst peering into Hillary Clinton's, uhm...email misconduct.

Justice Department inspector general to investigate pre-election actions by department and FBI (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/12/justice-department-inspector-general-to-investigate-pre-election-actions-by-department-and-fbi/?utm_term=.0dcc71caff72)

You lost, guys. It wasn't Russia & it wasn't the FBI. It was Hillary.

So...a Prog is going to investigate other progs acting on the orders of the Prog in Chief...

I think I smell the cover up of the cover up...
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on January 16, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
Interesting maps..

(http://thepeoplescube.com/red/gallery/genosse-dummkopf-a191/us-election-2016-trumpland-vividmaps-600-i8884.jpg)

(http://thepeoplescube.com/red/gallery/genosse-dummkopf-a191/us-election-2016-clinton-archipelago-vividmaps-600-i8885.jpg)

(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Europe_Map_Democrats.png)

(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/EUrope_Muslim_Map.gif)

H/T - The People's Cube

Trumpland looks good to me!

Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Glock32 on January 16, 2017, 01:18:27 PM
I like to call the central highlands in that map the Trumpian Alps.
Title: Re: 2016 Races...If Anybody Cares...
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2017, 08:02:44 AM
Hilarious as it is predictable...took a while to come to light though...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/333946-bill-and-hillary-berated-staffers-for-loss/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/333946-bill-and-hillary-berated-staffers-for-loss/)

It's never them...always somebody else...

What pathetic self-absorbed losers!

 ::mooning::