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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 02:32:13 PM

Title: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Republicans in the Wisconsin legislature do not need a 3/5ths quorum to pass non-budgetary legislation. (http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/03/tweet-signals-long-wisconsin-standoff.html)

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Gov. Scott Walker previously rejected calls to pass the collective bargaining provisions of the budget bill separately.  Walker's reasoning was that while the collective bargaining provisions in isolation may not be budgetary, they were part of and necessary to budget repair.

Walker's position was not the most politically advantageous, because he left himself at the mercy of the Democratic state Senators who have deprived the state Senate of a quorum by fleeing the state.

It's time for Walker to reconsider because Senate Democrats have no intention of negotiating on collective bargaining, or of returning anytime soon.

One of the fleeing Senators, Lena Taylor has tweeted (h/t JSOnline) that she has filed for an absentee ballot for judicial elections to be held on April 5:


Senate President Scott Fitzgerald sees team Obama behind this:

    “We’re really beginning, I think, to believe that this isn’t just about the Wisconsin state Senate or the legislature,” he said. “This is about ties directly from the White House down to many of those that are involved in the recalls, and really how Wisconsin plays out in the next presidential election."

At this point, if there is no breakthrough very soon, there is not much to be lost by splitting the bill, passing collective bargaining reform (perhaps along the lines of compromise proposed by Walker in his e-mails with Democrats) without the need for a quorum, and letting the Senate Democrats stay in Illinois forever if they want to.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Glock32 on March 09, 2011, 02:37:44 PM
They're rapidly losing the initiative (may have already squandered it). The longer this drags on, the more it plays into Dhim hands. Republicans continue to have zero killer instinct.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 09, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
Most of us here have been screaming about capitalizing on that initiative for going on three weeks now. Dammit.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 03:11:52 PM
Truth.  Obama's proxies are involved in this up to their necks and it's getting worse.  Plus, the WI unions received O'Care waivers as well.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Glock32 on March 09, 2011, 03:21:41 PM
I just keep getting this feeling, with regard to the Republicans, that seldom before has the fate of a proud and free country depended so much on selfless and patriotic statesmen stepping into the breach, yet been so thoroughly let down when the challenge went out.

Churchill immortalized the pilots of the RAF in the Battle of Britain by saying "Never before has so much been owed, by so many, to so few". I always think of that statement now, and how the Republicans are (predictably) proving to be the exact opposite in our own time of great challenge.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: trapeze on March 09, 2011, 06:44:35 PM
Is this enough action for you?  I think I can live with it.

Hard cheese, leftists.

[blockquote]MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate have voted to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber's missing Democrats.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker's so-called "budget repair bill" - a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall.

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved that bill a short time later.

The move set up a vote in the Senate, which voted mere moments later.[/blockquote]
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 06:46:12 PM

Fox is reporting, it has passed and chanters remain protesting! ::laughonfloor::

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 06:53:07 PM
Is this enough action for you?  I think I can live with it.

Hard cheese, leftists.

[blockquote]MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate have voted to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber's missing Democrats.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker's so-called "budget repair bill" - a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall.

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved that bill a short time later.

The move set up a vote in the Senate, which voted mere moments later.[/blockquote]

I'll take it; better late than never.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: trapeze on March 09, 2011, 06:54:35 PM
I want everyone to know that I really feel bad for all those idiots who spent the last three weeks camping out at the WI capitol. I'm sure it was all very Woodstock. But it didn't work.

So now I am guessing that they will shift their attention to recall efforts. And since the WI budget still isn't resolved (thanks to the Democrat senators hanging out at some of Illinois' best motels and strip clubs) not a few of them will be laid off soon and will have lots of time on their hands so...I guess they can work on that.

And the rest of them can go back to being complete screw ups at educating kids.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: trapeze on March 09, 2011, 06:57:31 PM
This story rated one flaming skull (http://minx.cc/?post=313130) at AceOfSpades.

There is a possibility that the gov won't sign it. One theory suggests that Walker is using this as leverage to get the fleabaggers to return to work. There are reports that they are returning. So it's still up in the air. Here's hoping that he signs the damn thing and ends this mess.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 07:12:53 PM
This story rated one flaming skull (http://minx.cc/?post=313130) at AceOfSpades.

There is a possibility that the gov won't sign it. One theory suggests that Walker is using this as leverage to get the fleabaggers to return to work. There are reports that they are returning. So it's still up in the air. Here's hoping that he signs the damn thing and ends this mess.

Argh!  Sign the damn thing!  He's going to piss off the R's that voted to do this if he doesn't.

This is exactly what is wrong with Republicans; they don't know how to WIN.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: OLJingoist on March 09, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
This has been a good day to be conservative. ::guitar:: ::guitar:: ::guitar:: ::guitar::
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2011, 07:33:32 PM
This guy, Walker, has failed to see that the D's will never respond to any gesture of goodwill with anything like reciprocity. They're gonna' take advantage of him if he doesn't wise-up.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
I think what prompted this was the recall moves mad against Repub.WH is suspect in this as mentioned by one of the Repubs today on FOX that Move On was in the middle of this move.


 He better sign the effing thing and be done with this. It's an effing swing state!!

::cool:: ::whoohoo:: ::mooning:: ::hysterical:: ::guitar:: ::beertoast:: ::slapfight:: ::oldman:: ::thumbsup:: ::kissface::
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: michelleo on March 09, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
Kids have been put to bed.  The popcorn's popped. We've got some very interesting times ahead.  I'm guessing we're going to see some rioting at some point. The entitled don't give up their bennies easily.
::popcorn:: ::newyear::
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 09, 2011, 09:31:49 PM
This story rated one flaming skull (http://minx.cc/?post=313130) at AceOfSpades.

There is a possibility that the gov won't sign it. One theory suggests that Walker is using this as leverage to get the fleabaggers to return to work. There are reports that they are returning. So it's still up in the air. Here's hoping that he signs the damn thing and ends this mess.

The reasoning goes that the dhimmies content that this vote was fraudulent (or at least improper). To go anywhere they must convince the (Republican) Attorney General to prefer charges (or at least launch an investigation). What other leverage do they have? In order to do much of anything they must appear in person and to do that puts them at risk of apprehension.

So, what if they succeed at invalidating this vote? What next? The pubbies still have the superior numbers. Will they run away again?

The reason why we are all so impatient for Walker to sign this thing is that we don't trust pubbies not to "F" things up. All  too often it seems that we steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

I realize that the slow grind in frustrating but so far Walker & co haven't made any real mistakes and have held strong. Don't give up on them yet!
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Glock32 on March 09, 2011, 09:43:38 PM
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The reason why we are all so impatient for Walker to sign this thing is that we don't trust pubbies not to "F" things up.

They should take a cue from football: you gotta quickly snap another play before the other side has a chance to throw out the challenge flag.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
Holy sht, people!  Things have gone rogue!

Police with a number of plastic handcuffs ....

Protesters in the rotunda:

http://yfrog.com/gyxpkjxj (http://yfrog.com/gyxpkjxj)

Ann Althouse's husband on site with report:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/03/protesters-are-locking-capitol-doors.html (http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/03/protesters-are-locking-capitol-doors.html)

The bathrooms have been locked off because the mob is letting people in through the windows.

Stay tuned ....

Thanks to Grouchies for the updates ......
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
What just went through my sick mind is,what if this is a trap to get a quarum and the vote really won't happen till these idiots come home tomorrow as they say they will?That would be the living end. ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 10:33:21 PM
Sick you ain't; Machiavellian, you are. 

/gotta watch out for this guy, y'all, he's tricky.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 10:46:04 PM

Put a pen in the Governor's hand and say, "SIGN IT".

Quick Snap!

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 11:11:17 PM

(crosspost)
Yes, it's past time to clean house.  Those union hippies should have been thrown out a week ago. The cops that would not do so should have been suspended and upon review, fired.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 11:19:20 PM
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http://weaselzippers.us/2011/03/09/michael-moore-tells-leftists-go-to-madison-wisconsin-this-is-war-class-war/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2011/03/09/michael-moore-tells-leftists-go-to-madison-wisconsin-this-is-war-class-war/)

Michael Moore Tells Leftists, “Go to Madison, Wisconsin- This is War, Class War”…
“I just want to say anybody who lives within driving distance of Madison, Wisconsin right now should make their way to the capitol. I would love to see thousands of people there right now, in that capitol building, in the rotunda, on the lawn, whatever it takes. Really, this is really — this is war. This is a class war”

Be careful what you ask for, Mickey.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: michelleo on March 09, 2011, 11:21:01 PM
Somehow I don't think Michael Moore is any shape for war.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
Somehow I don't think Michael Moore is any shape for war.



 OH he has no plans of being there. He'll blow town faster than A MUllah declaring holy war.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 11:32:05 PM

Capitol fills after Senate vote (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svsgvqyr0rQ#)
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Glock32 on March 09, 2011, 11:36:04 PM
Somehow I don't think Michael Moore is any shape for war.

I don't know, if properly rendered he could grease the tracks of an entire tank platoon.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 11:46:48 PM
Somehow I don't think Michael Moore is any shape for war.

I don't know, if properly rendered he could grease the tracks of an entire tank platoon.

Sticky-bombs!

"Saving Private Ryan".
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 09, 2011, 11:49:02 PM
I look at this vid and have to laugh at the unholy alliance that the cops have made. Would you want these , er people on "your side" - especially knowing that they will turn on you like the pack of wild dogs they are as soon as the tide turns?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGdwsvj5k8Y
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 11:53:40 PM

That is disgusting. At the beginning the trooper is sorta, hands on shoulders you need to go this way, Kraft to that.  Night sticks, tasers, pepper spray, toss them off the banisters. It's simple.
YOU DON'T DO THAT.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 10, 2011, 02:37:11 AM
Where will be the mainstream media in its all-'round condemnation of the fat motherf**ker Michael Moore for his literal call to violence and class warfare?

I really think the Left is so all-in, their ardent believers know that if there is ever another election, they are through. Violence and complete chaos is their only hope now, and people like Michael Moore know it.

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: rickl on March 10, 2011, 05:36:12 AM
I went to bed early last night, then woke up in the wee hours (I hate when that happens on a work night).  I've been reading this (http://minx.cc/?post=313139) Ace of Spades thread about it.  After a while I got curious and read some of this (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/09/954609/-Wisconsin:-Walker-statement-on-successful-union-busting) Daily Kos thread.

The contrast could not be greater.  The Kossacks are all serious and earnest, while the AoS Morons are having a grand old time.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Libertas on March 10, 2011, 07:49:24 AM
Fat bastard Mikey likes to shoot his mouth off...of course while only bringing up the rear...which only comes natural to that bloated pile of filth.

He is promoting violence.  He should be arrested, tried, convicted and imprisoned.

Too bad nobody gives a damn though, eh?

 ::whatgives::

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 10, 2011, 08:20:46 AM
I think I'd be reviewing all I could and see which cops were failing to do their duty to protect and relieve them of their duty.
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 10, 2011, 08:25:34 AM
I think I'd be reviewing all I could and see which cops were failing to do their duty to protect and relieve them of their duty.

Absolutely. Wherever there is a failure by a cop or any other government employee to do their duty because of their support for these Leftist mobs, those employees should be terminated with extreme prejudice.

/double entendre not intended
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Roy Rogers on March 10, 2011, 08:57:41 AM
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196014_10150158695577889_641162888_8148176_1573780_n.jpg)
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: michelleo on March 10, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
Violence and complete chaos is their only hope now, and people like Michael Moore know it.



So right!

Read this nice little death threat over at Gateway (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/03/wisconsin-republicans-receive-death-threats-justice-investigating/)
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 10, 2011, 09:53:55 AM
Violence and complete chaos is their only hope now, and people like Michael Moore know it.



So right!

Read this nice little death threat over at Gateway (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/03/wisconsin-republicans-receive-death-threats-justice-investigating/)

Unbelievable Totally believable.

The new tone. Phhht. Media to begin screaming for civility in 3...2...1....*poof*
Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: John Florida on March 10, 2011, 09:59:03 AM
"The US Justice Department is reportedly investigating.
That ought to be good news for the violent emailer."


  But what happens if it's one of his people that sent that?After all we don't want to insult "His People"

Title: Re: WI- time for Walker to get off the stick and ACT
Post by: Libertas on March 10, 2011, 10:39:51 AM
Obamakov DOJ!  Pah!  If they didn't GAFF about NBP, this is nothing!  And the MFM?  They'll probably say it's a repub scam if they say anything at all, damn thier commie souls!

If I were the target, I'd be weapons-ready!