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Title: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 02, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
There are movies that permeate the culture to the point that people assume everyone has seen them and understands references to them. There are several movies (and TV shows) that I have never seen, and the people in my life respond with some disbelief when I admit to it. I'm wondering if anyone else experiences the same thing, or am I just an oddball.

Here's a partial list - more possibly added later:

Movies:
Animal House
Saturday Night Fever
The Sound of Music
Grease
Shrek
Austin Powers
Apocalypse Now

TV shows:
The Simpsons
Seinfeld
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 02, 2012, 05:00:59 PM
You are culturally deprived
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 02, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Just my two bits -

Animal House - Hilarious, but low-brow humor to say the least, the measure by which all other in the genre are judged.

Saturday Night Fever - Can't stand disco so I would rather eat broken glass, I've seen parts of it and I no doubt this crap gets lots of airtime in hell.

The Sound of Music - A classic, not my favorite movie of all-time, and I have a problem with nuns and Nazi's dancing and signing like everything is just peachy in the Third Reich.

Grease - No disco and only Olivia Newton John makes this even worth watching.

Shrek - Saw it cause my nephews wanted to, having said that it was tolerable and like most modern toon flicks it has some humor adults can giggle at.

Austin Powers - Saw all three, best enjoyed if partially or completely inebriated, not cult follower of the series but the sight gags are pretty good.

Apocalypse Now - The premise stinks and I usually avoid Martin Sheen more than I do VD, but it has parts that are amusing like surfing during a combat raid...no way in hell that would be allowed without having butts in slings, but the "I love the smell of napalm in morning" line is immortal.

The Simpsons - Used to watch early on, then I got bored.  Bart's pranks on Moe are good, but that's about it for me.

Seinfeld - I admit I watched every episode, the characters were so quirky, despicable and selfish...but it was funny as heck.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 02, 2012, 06:07:00 PM

Movies:
Animal House ------------- no
Saturday Night Fever----- no
The Sound of Music ------- ...mmmmmmm the hills are alive
Grease --------------------- no
Shrek ---------------------- never heard of it
Austin Powers ------------- no
Apocalypse Now ----------- on TV. The party scene on the river with the go go playmates has got
                                                    to be the most surreal juxtaposition in A list movie history.

TV shows:
The Simpsons ------------- once
Seinfeld -------------------- no
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on January 02, 2012, 06:38:36 PM
Holy crap.....YOU are an oddball..... ::laughonfloor::


I'll recommend Animal House, the best gutter type humor going. And i agree, the sight gags in Austin Powers are funny as hell.

I also find these types of flicks an emotional release during liberal presidencies.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 02, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Just my two bits -



Spot on Libertas  ::beertoast::


edited to add that I've seen all of them but Animal House is the only one in my library. Every once in a while I need the sort of absurdist humor ("Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son") that movies like this provide.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on January 02, 2012, 07:17:59 PM
Animal House ------------- yes
Saturday Night Fever-----  yes
The Sound of Music ------- yes
Shrek ----------------------- yes

Saw bits of a few different Seinfelds, but basically, no to the rest.  Never seen Casablanca.

Also never watched The Sopranos (absolutely not paying for HBO); never seen one episode of American Idol nor Survivor.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 02, 2012, 07:36:53 PM
Animal House ------------- yes
Saturday Night Fever-----  yes
The Sound of Music ------- yes
Shrek ----------------------- yes

Saw bits of a few different Seinfelds, but basically, no to the rest.  Never seen Casablanca.

Also never watched The Sopranos (absolutely not paying for HBO); never seen one episode of American Idol nor Survivor.

I've never seen Casablanca either. I never saw the Sopranos on HBO, but we did buy a couple seasons on DVD to check it out. It's good TV. Too gritty for the kids though, so it's tough to get into it too far.

I've never seen Survivor either, and I've seen American Idol once or twice, in addition to a whole lot of youtube clips of the show.

ETA: Also, I watched a few of the old James Bond flicks when I was a teenager but I never really liked them all that much.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 02, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Animal House...saw it when it came out. Laughed until I hurt but I was eighteen or so and not too terribly sophisticated so take that for what it's worth. It was most definitely the high mark of the "National Lampoon" brand...everything else since has been unremarkable and yes, I include "Vacation" in that critique. I appreciated the extremely crude yet sophisticated humor of the National Lampoon magazine which had (sort of, by way of the Harvard Lampoon) already dished out the "Bored of the Rings" and would also give us the sage wit of P.J. O'Rourke.

Saturday Night Fever...what can I say? I hated disco with a passion so, no, I didn't see it and probably never will. Didn't see "Urban Cowboy" for about the same reasons. I did go to Gilleys once when Neil Young performed there but that is as close to "Urban Cowboy" as I ever got.

The Sound of Music...classic Rogers & Hammerstein musical with almost nothing in common with the true story of the Von Trapp Family Singers story. Nevertheless, it is a very well produced, acted and directed musical and worth seeing.

Grease...never saw it because I couldn't stand the lead actor and actress. I wasn't crazy about the 1950's genre either...just not my thing. I did see "West Side Story," though, and thought it was mostly okay.

Shrek...saw it with my kid (the one who is currently in the Army) when it came out in 2001. You do things like that when you can...see a family friendly movie because there are so few released. It was better than average (average being crap like "Care Bears") and I particularly liked the not quite hidden ridicule of Disney and its CEO Michael Eisner (who was portrayed as an arrogant midget). Well worth seeing but the sequels are mostly crappy.

Austin Powers...saw part of the first one and then lost interest and changed the channel.

Apocalypse Now...forced myself to go to it, stay awake through it and not get up and leave before it was over. Such is the respect that I had and continue to have for Coppola as a film maker. I guess everyone is entitled to produce a crappy movie every now and then. At least he isn't M. Night Shyamalan.

The Simpsons...watched it for the first season or two and then got bored and never went back. Bonus points to anyone who remembers where the Simpsons appeared before they had their own show.

Seinfeld...watched most of the shows although I liked it a lot more in the earlier seasons before the writing took a decidedly crude turn due to what I can only assume was a dearth of ideas. I saw Jerry Seinfeld a year or two before he got the television sitcom on an hour long HBO special and it was the funniest thing I had seen in years...way better than anything George Carlin was doing at the time.

There's lots of stuff that I haven't seen and it's mostly because there's just so much stuff to see these days. It used to be that there were only three networks that produced shows and almost all of them were produced in house. That changed in the seventies when independent production companies got seriously rolling...I seem to remember that Mary Tyler Moore's MTM production company was one of the first successful ones.

Same thing with movies. There are just a zillion that come out every year and I honestly do not know how anyone can see them all. And, of course, most aren't worth seeing. I have to read reviews and, given the liberal bent of most reviewers, have to read between the lines and consider the source when judging what to actually pay money for. Pay per view is a bargain at $6 compared to $10 and up movie tickets.

ADDED

"Casablanca" is a classic and well worth seeing. "The Maltese Falcon" is good, too. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" is NOT to be missed...my personal Bogart favorite.

Some of the Sean Connery Bond films are good as long as you remember when they were made. Some sucked. All of the Roger Moore Bond films sucked...horribly over produced with none of the wit and charm of Connery. The first Daniel Craig Bond film was very good...the second one, not so much.


Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 02, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
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The Simpsons...watched it for the first season or two and then got bored and never went back. Bonus points to anyone who remembers where the Simpsons appeared before they had their own show.

one Ding

British comedienne had a weekend variety show in the mid 80s and as a tag at the end
of the show a short clip of Homer and crew would be played.  Ah dunna remember er name.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 02, 2012, 10:37:29 PM
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The Simpsons...watched it for the first season or two and then got bored and never went back. Bonus points to anyone who remembers where the Simpsons appeared before they had their own show.

one Ding

British comedienne had a weekend variety show in the mid 80s and as a tag at the end
of the show a short clip of Homer and crew would be played.  Ah dunna remember er name.



Very good. It was Tracey Ullman on the first or second season that Fox was a network. She used the Simpson characters in short bits between skits and stuff.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 02, 2012, 10:41:37 PM
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Very good. It was Tracey Ullman on the first or second season that Fox was a network.

Thanks...I could picture her face but couldn't recall the name.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 02, 2012, 10:50:38 PM
Our society is increasingly relying on references to movies  and TV as a form of cultural literacy...  I  have been trying to make sure my kids see the original shortly beofre or right after they see a parody of it.  The Simpsons is an excellent guide for pointing out which movies those are- they really have had no choice but to parody previous material - they just have had too long of a run.  Or as South Park said, "the Simpsons Already did it"  (http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s06e07-the-simpsons-already-did-it)




Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 02, 2012, 11:19:53 PM
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Very good. It was Tracey Ullman on the first or second season that Fox was a network.

Thanks...I could picture her face but couldn't recall the name.

She's not in a lot. One of my personal favorites, though, is "I Love You To Death" with Kevin Klein. William Hurt and Keanu Reeves as the drugged out incompetent hit men were terrific. And how many films can you name where William Hurt is anything but a snooze?
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 03, 2012, 07:32:30 AM
OMG Pan & IDP, you have to see Casablanca, I like just about every Bogart movie, in addition to Casablanca some of my fav's include The Caine Mutiny, African Queen, To have and to have not, Key Largo, High Sierra, Maltese Falcon, Sahara, The big sleep and the original Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn.

 ::thumbsup::

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 03, 2012, 08:17:03 AM
I've seen bits and pieces of some Bogart films by osmosis on TV, but looking at that list, I don't believe I've ever watched one deliberately all the way through. I'll have to fix that.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: ToddF on January 03, 2012, 08:34:09 AM
Animal House - An all timer
Saturday Night Fever - Disco sucked.  Didn't you get the memo?
The Sound of Music - OK for that sort of thing
Grease - Read that memo again
Shrek - Part of it as the nephews and nieces were watching
Austin Powers - Ya baby!
Apocalypse Now - maybe a long time ago

TV shows:
The Simpsons - nope.  Just don't get into cartoons
Seinfeld - 1/2 an episode.  Not funny.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 03, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
I'm still trying to figure out when Hollywood took its "left turn" . Maybe right after the Black List . But most of Hollywood's  "Greats" were staunchly conservative Republicans i.e. Gary Cooper , James Stewart , Clark Gable , John Wayne , Ward Bond , George Murphy , James Cagney , Robert Taylor , Barbara Stanwyck , Irene Dunne , Ginger Rogers , William Holden , Tyrone Power , Bob Hope , Bing Crosby , etc.

The libs have had a lock on Hollywood for almost fifity years and I'd like to see it swing back some time before I die .
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 03, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Wasn't Tyrone Powers a queer?
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: AlanS on January 03, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
Wasn't Tyrone Powers a queer?

Maybe you've got him confused with Rock Hudson.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 04, 2012, 06:24:21 AM
Wasn't Tyrone Powers a queer?

You'd have to convince his wives and kids of that . Errol Flynn was accused of the same thing . Charles Higham is the scandal-mongering , lying a$$hole who came up with that stuff . No , Power was not queer .

As an interesting aside , you can look up photos of his son , Tyrone Power Jr. , on the net and the resemblance to his father is down right spooky !
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 04, 2012, 11:35:55 AM
Errol Flynn had a dog track at his home which he and friends enjoyed.
He substituted fur for the rabbit.  He never had a dog in the race.


Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on January 04, 2012, 12:15:42 PM
I've never seen Debbie Does Dallas.




















Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 04, 2012, 08:11:44 PM

Animal House--haven't seen it and don't need to at this point.  I've seen so many references and clips of it.  I know the highlights.

Saturday Night Fever--see above.  Like Trap I did see Urban Cowboy.  Not sure why.  And I too went to Gilleys.

The Sound of Music--saw as a teen with my brother at the cheap movie place and laughed all the way through it.  Watched as an adult and appreciated the value of old fashioned movie entertainment.  First movie I got on VHS.

 
Grease--not really sure if I've actually seen this all the way through to the end.  With daughters involved in skating and dance I'm sick of it.  Every show/recital director thinks a show with a "grease" theme will be fun.  I hate it.

Shrek--funny, but I found it kind of creepy too.  Didn't bother to watch the sequels.

Austin Powers--NO INTEREST!

Apocalypse Now--see above--so many clips and references, almost like I've seen it.

The Simpsons--not a cartoon person.

Seinfeld--over heard one or two when hubby watched. 

Friends-- I'm proud to say I never watched it.

Sopranos--didn't feel the need to get involved in it.

Survivor--never seen it but read the bio of the guy who created it.  Interesting story--he was in the British military (maybe a paratrooper-can't recall for sure).  He got out and went to visit a friend in L.A. on the way to South America for a security gig.  Had no money but stayed in L.A. selling junk on Mahattan Beach. Saved up enough to push himself forward to another venture.  Eventually as an athlete he decided it would be cool to make a show about extreme sports in exotic locations and convinced ESPN or some other network to do it...and from that came Survivor. 

Here's AFI's 100 greatest movies (not without its own controversy):

http://www.afi.com/100years/movies10.aspx (http://www.afi.com/100years/movies10.aspx)





Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: AlanS on January 04, 2012, 08:25:14 PM
I tried, but I just CAN'T do musicals..........except the original Blues Brothers.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 04, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
I tried, but I just CAN'T do musicals..........except the original Blues Brothers.

I dislike more than I like BUT

after hearing 1776 a dozen times because my daughters love it I can quote it and sing some of it.  To their dismay I haven't watched it all the way through yet.

Also, I liked Enchanted.  It was funny in the way it poked fun at the whole Disney princess & musical theme.  Love the scene where the princess begins to sing in Central Park and Patrick Dempsy's character wants to know how the others know the song too.  I've watched this movie more than once.

Also, love Blues Brother, I think because it's funny not just a musical.




Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Miltrainer on January 04, 2012, 10:19:19 PM
OK, I have to post on this one. I've seen all the movies that IDP has posted. In regards to the TV shows, Seinfeld I didn't start watching till about the third season. After that I watched about half of them. The did however start to decline the last year. There were Seinfeld classics like "The Contest" which was hilarious. Another one was with the line: "Not that there is anything wrong with that!"  which referred to homosexuals. I have only seen a couple of Simpson episodes. Kind of wanted to watch, but I didn't want my daughter to see the adult humor. Now it's just too late and they have gotten old.

For movies; I don't like Bogart movies. I've seen most of "Cain Mutiny" , "African Queen" and "Casablanca". He bores the Holy Hanna out of me. Actually, Most actors back then, I thought, were terrible. The only actors I liked back then were Spenser Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant and Henry Fonda. Most of the actors seem to over act back then.

Speaking of movies we haven't seen; what other movies have people NOT seen that were really popular? I can't think of any that were released in the past 35 years that I haven't seen. I'm speaking about the movies that were watched repeatedly and have multiple memorable quotes in them.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on January 04, 2012, 11:17:37 PM
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Speaking of movies we haven't seen; what other movies have people NOT seen that were really popular?

Rocky Horror?  Cult classic; watched a few minutes and that was all I could stand.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 04, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Like Trap I did see Urban Cowboy. 



Just to clarify...I have not seen Urban Cowboy.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2012, 06:35:36 AM
Those last two are kinda gay.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 07:24:38 AM
Blues Brothers, Rocky Horror, and Urban Cowboy are also all popular movies that I have not ever seen.

Also never saw Top Gun or Days of Thunder.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2012, 07:29:00 AM
Top Gun is over the top, and the whole love interest side story and poor daddy...  ::puke::

As one who worked in hanger #1 at Mirimar I would have liked a better representation of Fightertown USA (the training shots are OK), and certainly a better actor than that dwarf Tom Cruise...I usually make it a point to avoid anything he happens to be in, so Days of Thunder will remain unwatched by me.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: ToddF on January 05, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
Caddyshack even?

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 08:51:34 AM
Caddyshack even?



Wow, another I haven't seen.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: ToddF on January 05, 2012, 09:36:04 AM
I thought I was bad, pretty much tuning out everything over the past 10-15 years.  Mostly because this rings very very true for me...

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2012/01/02/top-10-ways-hollywood-can-win-its-audience-back/ (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2012/01/02/top-10-ways-hollywood-can-win-its-audience-back/)

This just nails it on so many levels.

But that's still no excuse to have never seen Caddyshack.  Your very maleness is on the line with that one.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 05, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
Caddyshack even?






Wow, another I haven't seen.

Caddyshack was way over-rated. Except for the standout performances by Bill Murray and Rodney Dangerfield it was horrible. Chevy Chase was seriously un-funny in his role and the balance of the acting was done by teenagers. Ted Knight was, well, Ted Knight so he was as you would expect but it was too little to make it as good as, say, Animal House.

So, IMO, you didn't miss much.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Miltrainer on January 05, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
Caddyshack even?



Wow, another I haven't seen.

Holy crap where were you during this time?  :o Caddy Shack was hilarious and Top gun was great to watch with the 5 in 1 surround on the big screen and loved the character Goose. Let me guess you never saw Platoon, Full Metal Jacket or Ghost Busters? How about The Holy Grail?
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
I HAVE seen all four of those miltrainer.

It's weird, I know. That's why I started the thread. I've been aware for a long time that there are movies considered almost universally seen and/or loved, that I just never got around to seeing.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 05, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Maybe it would just be easier to ask which ones you have seen...  ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 05, 2012, 09:40:36 PM
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Chevy Chase was seriously un-funny in his role...

I thought he was playing himself.  ;D
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 05, 2012, 09:44:27 PM
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Chevy Chase was seriously un-funny in his role...

I thought he was playing himself.  ;D

I just never thought that he was all that funny on film. He was great on SNL but for me he just didn't translate to film very well.

Seen him recently? He hasn't aged all that well either.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 10:39:28 PM
I liked Chevy up to a point. I think he was funnier, and somehow lost his sense of humor as time went on. I loved him in the first NL Vacation, and Fletch.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: ToddF on January 06, 2012, 07:18:53 AM
Milt reminded me...

Does the phrase, "It's only a flesh wound" do anything for ya, IDP?  ::stirpot::


Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2012, 07:22:06 AM
Ni!
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 06, 2012, 07:51:44 AM
Milt reminded me...

Does the phrase, "It's only a flesh wound" do anything for ya, IDP?  ::stirpot::




Yup. Saw Holy Grail. Never saw Life of Brian though.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 06, 2012, 07:52:27 AM
I've never seen a Woodie Allen movie.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2012, 11:07:09 AM
I've never seen a Woodie Allen movie.

Saw something with he and David Niven way back when where he was a bad guy and got blowed up at the end, other than that...   ::puke::
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 06, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
Like Trap I did see Urban Cowboy. 



Just to clarify...I have not seen Urban Cowboy.

oops!

I wish I hadn't either
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on January 06, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on January 06, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.

And I never will. 
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 06, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
I've never seen a Woodie Allen movie.

"Life of Brian" sucked so you missed nothing. I got dragged to it (when it was originally released) when I was out with friends.

If you have seen one Woody Allen movie you have seen them all. Now that he is publicly known to be a pedophile I don't know how he isn't in jail let alone allowed to keep making one uninteresting film after another.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 06, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.

And I never will. 

That is one I have not seen and will not see. Here's another: "The Crying Game" for similar reasons.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 06, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
I have never seen anything by Roman Polanski, either. Started to watch "Chinatown" but fell asleep ten minutes into it so I don't count that.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on January 06, 2012, 03:51:48 PM
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.

And I never will. 

That is one I have not seen and will not see. Here's another: "The Crying Game" for similar reasons.

That I saw, for reasons I don't remember.  Feh.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 06, 2012, 04:12:29 PM
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.

And I never will. 

Me either and I know more about it than I care to
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
I have never seen anything by Roman Polanski, either. Started to watch "Chinatown" but fell asleep ten minutes into it so I don't count that.

I saw "The Fearless Vampire Killers", it wouldn't make the recommended movie list.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 06, 2012, 06:52:52 PM
On a recommendation from my hippie brother years ago, my wife and I rented "My Own Private Idaho" on VHS, starring Keanu Reeves and River Phoenix.

A little while into it, I said, "If they do one more G_D gay thing, I'm shutting this PoS off."

About 30 seconds later Reeves and Phoenix French kissed full on the mouth. That was that.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2012, 10:41:13 AM
I have never seen anything by Roman Polanski, either. Started to watch "Chinatown" but fell asleep ten minutes into it so I don't count that.

I saw "The Fearless Vampire Killers", it wouldn't make the recommended movie list.


That was a Polanski flick?  Dang, my perfect record ruined!

 ::facepalm::

(My brother made me watch it!)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 10:52:00 AM

Yeah, Sharron Tate was the object of affliction.

 
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
I forget how old I was, 10 or so, and my brother had me sit up and watch it one night, it was the late night feature on a Friday or Saturday night...

I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be horror or comedy, it was weird.

I never knew it was a Polanski film, it just wouldn't have been on my radar back then.

We used to stay up and watch all sorts of stuff.  Film noir, horror classics, etc.  Later on would catch Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, Monty Python's Flying Circus and The Tonight Show...and the early SNL days when they were good.  Late night had a lot of stuff.  Everybody knew back then the good stuff came on after 10pm, especially on weekends.

Ahhh, the good old days!
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 07, 2012, 11:09:43 PM
Actually, Most actors back then, I thought, were terrible. The only actors I liked back then were Spenser Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant and Henry Fonda. Most of the actors seem to over act back then.

I have no problem with the actors you listed but you left out some of the greats . I'd say , with out equivocation , that actors like Brad Pitt couldn't hold Gable's athletic supporter . Ditto regarding Cagney , Cooper and Flynn . Also who were the actors who "over-acted" and in which films ?
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 11:52:15 PM

Maurice Chevallier,
Vincent Price,
Rod Cameron,
Jeff Chandler,
Broderick Crawford.

Which films? Pick one.
Vincent Price did find his niche character.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Miltrainer on January 08, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
Actually, Most actors back then, I thought, were terrible. The only actors I liked back then were Spenser Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant and Henry Fonda. Most of the actors seem to over act back then.

I have no problem with the actors you listed but you left out some of the greats . I'd say , with out equivocation , that actors like Brad Pitt couldn't hold Gable's athletic supporter . Ditto regarding Cagney , Cooper and Flynn . Also who were the actors who "over-acted" and in which films ?
Cagney wasn't bad, Flynn was terrible. He was just a handsome man in tights. I hate to say it but Clark Gable was not that good. I seen most of Gone With the Wind. I was not impressed at all, yet Gable earned an Oscar nomination. John Wayne was not a good actor either.  He may have won an Oscar, but I feel he received it mostly for his age and that the role was written for him. Didn't look like an acting stretch. I do like watching his movies, but I don't think he is a great actor. I don't think Bruce Willis is a great actor but I love watching his movies like: The 5th Element. I have to disagree about Brad Pitt. He is a really good actor. He seem natural in front of the camera. I thought he did a super job in Legends of the Fall. He also pairs quite well with George Clooney.

James Cagney was was a good actor.... most of the times. I haven't seen much of Cooper films so I really can't say he was good or bad. It just seems that most of the actors in the 30's, 40's and 50's were melodramatic.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 09, 2012, 05:27:21 AM

Maurice Chevallier,
Vincent Price,
Rod Cameron,
Jeff Chandler,
Broderick Crawford.

Which films? Pick one.
Vincent Price did find his niche character.


How about Broderick Crawford ( The others aren't on my list ) ... say ... " Born Yesterday " ( comedy ) or " All The King's Men " ( drama for which he won the Academy Award ) .

Gable may have been nominated for an Oscar in GWTW but he won for " It Happened One Night " ( 1934 ) . His style changed and became more gritty the older he got . He probably should have won for " The Misfits " ( 1960 ) his final film .

One needs to look at an actor's entire body of work before dismissing him completely . See Flynn in " The Roots Of Heaven " and " The Sun Also Rises " . Even Wayne's detractors when he was alive are changing their minds about his acting ability . He was capable of a lot more depth than he was previously given credit for .
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2012, 06:48:56 AM
John Wayne was John Wayne, and that is just fine with me.

As far as actors who come up lacking, I don't think little Tommie Cruise could hold any of those older fellas jocks!  Talk about overrated!
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on January 09, 2012, 07:05:24 AM
Aitch - A - Double R - Eye

Gee - A - En spells Harrigan ...
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 09, 2012, 06:14:34 PM

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How about Broderick Crawford ( The others aren't on my list ) ... say ... " Born Yesterday " ( comedy ) or " All The King's Men " ( drama for which he won the Academy Award ) .

Forgot about "All The King's Men" , don't remember "Born Yesterday", how far he fell;
I was thinking of "Highway Patrol".



Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on January 09, 2012, 11:39:06 PM
Filed under "Movies I Wish I Had Never Seen" is the film adaptation of the Broadway (actually worldwide) musical, "Mamma Mia!"

First of all let me say that I actually like the music of ABBA. I didn't care for it at all when I was younger and it was closely associated with the disco genre. I despised disco and still do. But sometime in the last ten years or so I came to appreciate the musical and lyrical work of the Swedish pop group. I haven't seen and am not likely to ever see the live performance of "Mamma Mia" but Mrs. trapeze dragged me to see the horrid, wretched mess that is the film adaptation.

What made it truly insufferable? Pierce Brosnan's "singing." Brosnan is a mediocre actor at best but he is about as miserable a singer as you are likely to encounter. I mean that in all objective sincerity...he is worse than a lot of typical off key grade school singers. The plot of the musical is bad enough without being subjected to what can only be described as a form of low level auditory torture...the kind of thing that law enforcement might play in and endless loop in a hostage situation in order to drive the bad guys crazy. Certainly, being forced to listen to Pierce Brosnan sing is a human rights abuse. I swear I heard dogs baying outside the theater while this cretin was crooning...

Meryl Streep & Pierce Brosnan, "S.O.S." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHqXjFu9jw#ws)

Sharp, pointy fingernails on a chalkboard are more melodious. Yes, I would rather be subjected to that sound than be forced to listen to the musical stylings of Pierce Brosnan. It would be fun, by comparison, to have one's pubic hairs plucked one at a time with an intermittent splash of isopropyl alcohol and cayenne pepper thrown in for good measure.

But the movie is violently unpleasant on so many other levels because the story is basically unimaginative threadbare crap that is strung together for no other purpose than to exploit the music of ABBA and thereby make a buck. It is completely unsurprising in its plodding plot. They manage to make sunny Greece look boring and somewhat hostile as a vacation destination. I wanted to throw up several times during the interminable time that it was on the screen.

I cannot recommend in any more stronger terms that this is a movie that should be avoided at all costs. Your very soul is at stake here.

Run from it.

You would have more fun with an aggressive gonorrhea infection.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on January 09, 2012, 11:55:00 PM
Trap......you really have a way with words...... ::laughonfloor:: ::rolllaughing:: ::hysterical:: my itchy groin doesn't seem so bad.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 10, 2012, 05:10:22 AM

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How about Broderick Crawford ( The others aren't on my list ) ... say ... " Born Yesterday " ( comedy ) or " All The King's Men " ( drama for which he won the Academy Award ) .

Forgot about "All The King's Men" , don't remember "Born Yesterday", how far he fell;
I was thinking of "Highway Patrol".





" Ten Four . Twenty-one fifty by "
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 10, 2012, 04:06:53 PM
Filed under "Movies I Wish I Had Never Seen" is the film adaptation of the Broadway (actually worldwide) musical, "Mamma Mia!"


That is probably the best review of it that I've ever read.

I don't understand why they didn't run his singing through the autotune.

....or maybe they did

The story made no sense.  The time line for the characters didn't work----the main actors were too old for those parts.

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: RickZ on January 10, 2012, 04:30:23 PM
Wasn't Tyrone Powers a queer?

I never heard about Tyrone Power being gay, but I did read about Errol Flynn being a bi-sexual spy.

From the always reliable Wiki:

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In 1980, author Charles Higham published a controversial biography, Errol Flynn: The Untold Story, in which he alleged that Flynn was a fascist sympathiser who spied for the Nazis before and during World War II. The book also alleged he was bisexual.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: RickZ on January 10, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
As far as dvd's go, I have very few of them, but I do have Animal House and Blazing Saddles (Airplane! being the one comedy missing from my trifecta).  I also have The Maltese Falcon and Casablanca on dvd.  They are always good for a watch when regular tv s*cks, which means I've seen those movies a lot.  What can I say I like Humphrey Bogart.  I want to buy the 6 Thin Man movies with William Powell and Myrna Loy.  That'll keep me happy for weeks.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 10, 2012, 06:25:20 PM

If you like B&B try "The Big Sleep", I'm assuming you've seen "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmdhH3aOug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmdhH3aOug)

The Thin Man series was smooooth.

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: LadyVirginia on January 10, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
  I want to buy the 6 Thin Man movies with William Powell and Myrna Loy.  That'll keep me happy for weeks.

yes, it will!  My daughter's favorite.

We never tire laughing over "please serve the nuts"

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on January 11, 2012, 03:34:18 AM
Wasn't Tyrone Powers a queer?

I never heard about Tyrone Power being gay, but I did read about Errol Flynn being a bi-sexual spy.

From the always reliable Wiki:

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In 1980, author Charles Higham published a controversial biography, Errol Flynn: The Untold Story, in which he alleged that Flynn was a fascist sympathiser who spied for the Nazis before and during World War II. The book also alleged he was bisexual.

If you've read Higham's book ( I did many years ago ) you'll see very quickly that he offers not a shred of evidence to back up his allegations . In fact quite a few authorities ( several with the FBI whose files are quoted in the book ) state categorically that the allegations of spying and bi-sexuality are blatantly false .

Higham is well known for hit pieces which supposedly out actors and actresses who are no longer around to defend themeslves . David Niven who was a close friend of Flynn during their early years in Hollywood and shared a beach house with him ( Cirrhosis By The Sea they called it ) was particularly insensed by the accusations . So were Flynn's ex-wives .
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2012, 06:30:38 AM

If you like B&B try "The Big Sleep", I'm assuming you've seen "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmdhH3aOug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmdhH3aOug)

The Thin Man series was smooooth.



Classic B&B in "To have and to have not" - " You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and... blow."

They don't make 'em like that anymore...
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 11, 2012, 10:38:35 AM
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( Cirrhosis By The Sea they called it ) was particularly insensed by the accusations . So were Flynn's ex-wives .

The popular saying "in like Flynn" didn't occur because of his associations with men.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
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( Cirrhosis By The Sea they called it ) was particularly insensed by the accusations . So were Flynn's ex-wives .

The popular saying "in like Flynn" didn't occur because of his associations with men.


 ::facepalm::

That didn't come from James Coburn?

 ;D
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 11, 2012, 05:48:01 PM

One could say Errol had a paternal investment in that movie.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 12:37:29 AM
Top 25 SciFi Movies. (http://movies.ign.com/articles/677/677739p1.html) I confess that I have seen all but two of them.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 03, 2012, 01:12:07 AM

Scored 18 on the list, I'm surprised.

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on February 03, 2012, 03:42:13 AM
A friend of mine played one of the crewmen in "Forbidden Planet" .
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2012, 06:46:41 AM
A friend of mine played one of the crewmen in "Forbidden Planet" .

The robot?

 ;D

Jus' yanking yer chain!

 ;)

I never saw Metroplis, Brazil or Moon.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 03, 2012, 07:26:15 AM
17 out of 25, but ....

I've only seen the original "Thing".

And what's up with "Serenity" not being on that list either?!  ('Course the list is from 2010; when was "Serenity" made?)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
I never saw Metroplis, Brazil or Moon.

Yikes.  

Metropolis is worth watching just because of the time it was made. Not a great story, but visually appealing, and offering an interesting view of the future in that time

Brazil. Terry Gilliams Best.  Absolutely brilliant and entirely depressing. It is our future.   Make sure you watch the director's cut and not the pie in the sky, made for tv ending

Moon I saw only recently. Entertaining. Not sure about its inclusion in this list.

Adaptive Curmudgeon is also making lists  (http://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/top-100-cult-films-part-ii/)

District 9 bsolutely doesn't belong there at all. Good premise, well done special effects, awful execution.

I am 24 out of 25, and that is because I refuse to see Avatar.


Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 09:16:07 AM
17 out of 25, but ....

I've only seen the original "Thing".

And what's up with "Serenity" not being on that list either?!  ('Course the list is from 2010; when was "Serenity" made?)

I think we should make our own list.  The movies on that list were good, but more of them were  "this is so embedded in the culture that you really should have watched it so you will understand when others make referrences to it"

And the Fifth Element didn't make the list? What?

However, the  completely missed most of the "cult" films and sleepers that really cool people ( like me)  will make references to, some we have already discussed.  Serenity is in that group:

Serenity
Zombieland
Brazil ( The Director's cut)
Blade Runner ( Director's Cut. Loosing the voice over at the beginning TOTALLY  changes the meaning  of the  film)
Battle: Los Angeles. ( Astounding! Real Military Heroes in a Hollywood film)
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure ( Stupid. Funny. And the ONLY FILM that treats time travel intelligently)
Buckaroo Banzi: Across the 8th Dimension (A list stars. B-list movie.  Really very creative. Based on a book its hard to get a copy of, and yes the book is better)
Highlander (There can be only one!)
Akira ( The Anime that began all Anime - No its doesn't make sense. Shut up and watch)
The Army of Darkness (Yeah you should probably watch the perfectly awful "Evil Dead II" first. But who doesn'tlike watching Bruce Campbell get beat up?)
Heavy Metal - (Okay, this might have more to do with me still being 12 at heart)
Gattaca (There is no gene for the human spirit)
Dr. Strangelove ( You are going to have to answer to the Coca Cola company)

I also have some guilty pleasure films. They aren't great works of art, but they sure entertain me.
Flash Gordon - yeah the Queen soundtrack one from the 80s.  I just like it.
Starship Troopers -  Denise Richards at her cutest and Zerg battles. What is not to like?
Tremors  - (Guess this means we have to stop making fun of Burt's lifestyle)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 03, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
Right!  Fifth Element should have been on there, imo.

I have seen two of your list, Weisshaupt; I guess I have not been properly culturally indoctrinated.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 03, 2012, 09:30:41 AM
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I am 24 out of 25, and that is because I refuse to see Avatar.

I should be claiming 25/25 but I only peeked at a pirated copy of avatar and didn't finish it. Instead of lavishing praise on two of the Alien series I would have subbed "The Fifth Element" as a Bladerunner with a sense of humor.

Growing up I loved Sci-Fi. It stimulated my imagination like nothing (except chasing girls) could. I could lose myself in a Sci-Fi movie - or an old-time monster movie with the lingering effects lasting long after I left the theater. Watch a cute little film called "Matinee" - that's me (the kid, not the John Goodman lead character).

At last count my video library held over 350 titles. Obviously I love Sci-Fi! For me it is the ultimate in escapism - and with the world turned sick & sour I think that's where I'll go hide.

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 09:32:00 AM
I know I go completely against the grain. I am an avid sci-fi fan. And I do not like "The 5th Element."
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 03, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
A friend of mine played one of the crewmen in "Forbidden Planet" .

My eldest brother stumbled into an opportunity to work as an extra in a John Wayne movie. I think the title was "McQ" My brother didn't even like movies, but it was a couple of bucks for he and a buddy. There's about 3/4 of a second of him in a street shot.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
For me it is the ultimate in escapism - and with the world turned sick & sour I think that's where I'll go hide.

Lately I have been watching a lot of MST3k on Netflix to escape. My kids even watched the Gamera ones with me!

Gamera is really neat
He is filled with Turtle meat
we are eating Gamera!
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: ToddF on February 03, 2012, 09:42:12 AM
Hmmm.

Haven't seen

District 9, Avatar (got a coupon with the purchase of my last BlueRay player...threw it away) Brazil, I guess only 3

I just watched Metropolis last month for the first time.  I'm starting to figure out that the movies from the 20's can be much more adult than the post Hayes Code 30's.  Metropolis actually had some see though costumes  :o
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 09:43:21 AM
I have seen all but two on Weisshaupt's list...Highlander and Akira.

Tremors is one of the all time best in campy scifi monster movies. The interaction between good old boys Kevin Bacon and Fred Ward is great but watching Michael Gross and Reba McEntire as over-the-top survivalists empty about 5000 rounds into a monster in their basement is worth the price of admission all by itself...

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[Burt Gummer, with his wife Heather at his side, berates the dead monster fought off with their "family arsinal"]
Burt Gummer: "Broke into the wrong God damn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!"
...

[Burt Gummer looks at his bomb shelter for perhaps the last time]
Burt Gummer: "Food for five years, a thousand gallons of gas, air filtration, water filtration, Geiger counter. Bomb shelter! Underground... God damn monsters."
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 09:48:09 AM
Brazil is one of the best (if not the best) dystopian future movies ever made. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
Army Of Darkness is probably the best B movie scifi/horror/fantasy genre film of all time...well, certainly the best I've ever seen. If there was any justice in Hollywood (but there isn't) Bruce Campbell would get some kind of lifetime achievement award for his body of work.

I loved the ending...

Army of Darkness (10/10) Movie CLIP - Hail to the King, Baby (1992) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or3okI_mad8#ws)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
I would put "Dark City" on the list of my favorite scifi films.

From a story telling point of view, "Heavy Metal" was a mess. The animation was pretty good, though, for the time that it came out and the soundtrack is first rate...it's the only movie soundtrack to make it onto my mp3 collection...

"Heavy Metal" (Original Version) (Sammy Hagar) (3:50)
"Heartbeat" (Riggs) (4:20)
"Working in the Coal Mine" (Devo) (2:48)
"Veteran of the Psychic Wars" (Blue Öyster Cult) (4:48)
"Reach Out" (Cheap Trick) (3:35)
"Heavy Metal (Takin' a Ride)" (Don Felder) (5:00)
"True Companion" (Donald Fagen) (5:02)
"Crazy (A Suitable Case for Treatment)" (Nazareth) (3:24)
"Radar Rider" (Riggs) (2:40)
"Open Arms" (Journey) (3:20)
"Queen Bee" (Grand Funk Railroad) (3:11)
"I Must Be Dreamin'" (Cheap Trick) (5:37)
"The Mob Rules" (alternate version) (Black Sabbath) (2:43)
"All of You" (Don Felder) (4:18)
"Prefabricated" (Trust) (2:59)
"Blue Lamp" (Stevie Nicks) (3:48)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 10:07:33 AM
I loved the ending...

Hey, thats not the real ending...
Army of Darkness Alternate Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEFkDbzsSU#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
Good Lord. I just had a post almost ready of my personal list of top 25 - I had compiled it and was thoughtfully placing it in order - and something happened to the page. Blew it away. Save often, save often, save often...

 ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 10:13:08 AM
I would put "Dark City" on the list of my favorite scifi films.

Yeah, I almost included Dark City and Repo Man. But now you are moving out of cult and into films that attract a very unique audience.
Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog  and A Scanner Darkly (another Philip K Dick) , would be others  in that category.  When my kids are old enough I am making them read a Scanner Darkly just so they are never inclined  to do drugs. Ever.

Update: Oh Escape from New York, And Total Recall ( Another Philip K Dick...) 
  

From a story telling point of view, "Heavy Metal" was a mess.

Heavy Metal has a story? Shoot, I guess I should watch it again and see if I can find it.

Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
Good Lord. I just had a post almost ready of my personal list of top 25 - I had compiled it and was thoughtfully placing it in order - and something happened to the page. Blew it away. Save often, save often, save often...

 ::falldownshocked::
And explain what is wrong with 5th element while you are at it.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2012, 10:15:53 AM
I liked 5th Element, good humor, Oldman is a good baddy, Mila is hot, and stuff goes boom!   ;D

MST3K is freaking hilarious...I gotta get some of that!  Haven't seen it since it went off-air.   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 10:17:50 AM
I loved the ending...

Hey, thats not the real ending...
Army of Darkness Alternate Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEFkDbzsSU#noexternalembed)

Sam Raimi deserves recognition for his contributions, as well.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
Okay, so Fantasy Films (including comics):

LOTR.
The Princess Bride
Time Bandits
The Fisher King
Holes (does this count? There is a curse in it...)
Batman Begins/The Dark Knight
Watchmen ( Ultimate cut)
Unbreakable ( I have found M. Night Shyamalan films to require at least two viewings before you will like them)
Lady in the Water
Ever After ( If only the feminists would have let him save her once. )


Guilty Pleasures ( again, I know they aren't great films)
Ladyhawke
The Beast Master
Speed Racer (I to this day can't explain why)  

Obscure
The 5000 fingers of Dr. T.  (Dr Seuss)
The Guild ( watchtheguild.com)
Dorkness Rising (If you ever played D&D- its hysterical. If you haven't, don't bother. A film by geeks, for geeks)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 10:48:04 AM
1) Planet of the Apes
2) The Thing
3) The Andromeda Strain
4) Dark City
5) 28 Days Later (Viral-Zombie flick firmly presented as a sci-fi crossover)
6) Priest
7) Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
8) Blade Runner
9) Dune
10) Twelve Monkeys
11) Alien
12) Reign of Fire
13) Contact
14) Pitch Black / Chronicles of Riddick (I include both because I always watch them together)
15) The Matrix
16) They Live
17) T2 Judgment Day
18) I Am Legend / Omega Man (Since they tell essentially the same story and I love them both, they share a spot)
19) Predator
20) Star Trek (2009)
21) 1984
22) Jurassic Park
23) Altered States
24) Stargate
25) Frankenstein (It really WAS a sci-fi film)

Some honorable mentions:

King Kong (Jeff Bridges/Jessica Lange version)
Godzilla (and several subsequent follow-ups)
Minority Report
Rollerball
AI Artificial Intelligence
Soldier (w/Kurt Russel, NOT Universal Soldier)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
And explain what is wrong with 5th element while you are at it.

I thought the overall look and feel of the film was cheesy IMHO. Flying cars occupying the space above city streets. The costumes. Willis' campy character. Oldman's over-the-top bad guy. Costumes. Sets. Just didn't trip my trigger.

I didn't hate it. I just don't love it like so many sci-fi fans seem to love it.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
Well, color me "perplexed" that you could not find "The Fifth Element" appealing and yet you included the horrid David Lynch abortion, "Dune" on your list.

"Dune" was an absolute disaster and is about as good an example in how not to adapt a book to the screen as Peter Jackson's LOTR is. IMO, that is.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 11:20:03 AM
Well, color me "perplexed" that you could not find "The Fifth Element" appealing and yet you included the horrid David Lynch abortion, "Dune" on your list.

"Dune" was an absolute disaster and is about as good an example in how not to adapt a book to the screen as Peter Jackson's LOTR is. IMO, that is.

I know exactly what you're saying, except I don't consider it a disaster. In fact, as I criticized the costumes and campy aspects of TFE, Dune popped into my head as something I'd probably need to explain, and voila, here ya are!

My only answer is that Dune is a sweeping epic story that somewhat transcends the film, and it's very dark/grim, which I like. I appreciated the way the film dealt with the religious overtones, and it's uniqueness in its cheesiness was appealing to me.

ETA: You didn't like LOTR???

[edit from trap] Yes, I did like LOTR. Sorry for the clumsy grammar that would allow you to misinterpret my comments.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 11:23:17 AM
One more that you left off your list, IDP...

"I Am Legend" is a remake of "The Omega Man" which is a remake of "The Last Man On Earth." (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058700/)

All three based on the 1954 novel by Richard Matheson, "I Am Legend."

You did not say whether you have read "Dune." Did you? I probably would have hated it less if I had not read the book. Peter Jackson is not hated for LOTR because he held to the details of the original story about as well as the film media would allow. Another movie series that I would place in the contempt category for straying from the story are the recent Narnia films. It is the height of arrogance for a director and/or screenwriter to "improve" upon C.S. Lewis.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: trapeze on February 03, 2012, 11:27:40 AM
BTW, it is a rather sad commentary on state of the Republican primary campaign and candidates that this thread is so much more appealing to work on than current events.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 03, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
One more that you left off your list, IDP...

"I Am Legend" is a remake of "The Omega Man" which is a remake of "The Last Man On Earth." (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058700/)

All three based on the 1954 novel by Richard Matheson, "I Am Legend."

You did not say whether you have read "Dune." Did you? I probably would have hated it less if I had not read the book. Peter Jackson is not hated for LOTR because he held to the details of the original story about as well as the film media would allow. Another movie series that I would place in the contempt category for straying from the story are the recent Narnia films. It is the height of arrogance for a director and/or screenwriter to "improve" upon C.S. Lewis.

I've never seen Last Man on Earth.

I did read Dune, but AFTER I saw the film for the first time. Loved the book, and its sequels, as bizarre as they were. And to add to the Dune discussion, as much as I appreciate the Lynch film for what it was, I've ALWAYS wanted to see a new version of that film done without the camp and cheese. It could be so incredibly dark, ominous, and just plain cool if done right. Somebody tried a mini-series several years ago and it was a miss.

I agree re; LOTR - that's why I asked, cuz I would've sworn we had the conversation before and that you liked the films, so I was confused.

I also agree re; Narnia. Terrible films (particularly the 2nd and 3rd installments) that don't hold a candle to the books. They missed the mark terribly.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 03, 2012, 11:46:23 AM
You did not say whether you have read "Dune." Did you? I probably would have hated it less if I had not read the book. Peter Jackson is not hated for LOTR because he held to the details of the original story about as well as the film media would allow. Another movie series that I would place in the contempt category for straying from the story are the recent Narnia films. It is the height of arrogance for a director and/or screenwriter to "improve" upon C.S. Lewis.

Dune is a great story.  It is also as hard to adapt to film as LOTR was, if not harder.  I didn't hate Dune, but a great film adaptation it is not.
I still think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LOTR (extended editions) , and improved on the story in some places ( Fellowship Drags. It does. Deal with it) .  The images Jackson provided were just what I saw in my  minds eye while reading, so I enjoyed the movies in large part just because it was like actually visiting Middle Earth for me.  The Book will nearly always be better, and Hollywood will always cut one or two of the "good parts" just for reasons of time.  So maybe my expectations are low to start with, but I never expect a perfect rendition. Removing Tom Bombadil out and the Scouring of the Shire for the films didn't bother me at all. 

Of course Jackson is apparently screwing up "The Hobbit" by adding in the bits where Gandalf left to expel the necromancer from Mirkwood.  This irritates me, but in the end I may enjoy the end product.  The best stories, the ones that really matter, will be retold. And some times they will suffer in the re telling, and sometimes they will improve.

  I didn't hate  the new Narnia films either,  but they really failed to capture Aslan ( He is huge folks. He Towers over the children, standing or sitting. )  and the resurrection in the first movie was sadly understated IMO.  For that reason I still prefer the animated version. (http://www.amazon.com/Lion-Witch-Wardrobe-Arthur-Lowe/dp/B000BKVRME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328290538&sr=8-1) Yes the animation is 2nd rate, but its 100% faithful to the story, and does a far better job capturing the spirit of the thing.

Just curious,  ever read the original Philip K Dick stories for Total Recall, or  Blade Runner?  Sometime artistic license by the director can improve a story. Sometime not. And sometimes its just required by the medium.  I don't need every jot and tittle from the book to enjoy the retelling.
 


Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 03, 2012, 11:48:27 AM
BTW, it is a rather sad commentary on state of the Republican primary campaign and candidates that this thread is so much more appealing to work on than current events.

I mentioned escapism upstream. That's my new address  ;)
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 03, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
BTW, it is a rather sad commentary on state of the Republican primary campaign and candidates that this thread is so much more appealing to work on than current events.

I mentioned escapism upstream. That's my new address  ;)

Indeed.  Sometimes I (we) just need a break from the constant barrage of outrageous, oppressive and depressing.

No, this does not mean we are "American Idol" types; I said "a break" not a reality-banishment zone.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Sectionhand on February 04, 2012, 04:38:34 AM
1) Planet of the Apes
2) The Thing
3) The Andromeda Strain
4) Dark City
5) 28 Days Later (Viral-Zombie flick firmly presented as a sci-fi crossover)
6) Priest
7) Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
8) Blade Runner
9) Dune
10) Twelve Monkeys
11) Alien
12) Reign of Fire
13) Contact
14) Pitch Black / Chronicles of Riddick (I include both because I always watch them together)
15) The Matrix
16) They Live
17) T2 Judgment Day
18) I Am Legend / Omega Man (Since they tell essentially the same story and I love them both, they share a spot)
19) Predator
20) Star Trek (2009)
21) 1984
22) Jurassic Park
23) Altered States
24) Stargate
25) Frankenstein (It really WAS a sci-fi film)

Some honorable mentions:

King Kong (Jeff Bridges/Jessica Lange version)
Godzilla (and several subsequent follow-ups)
Minority Report
Rollerball
AI Artificial Intelligence
Soldier (w/Kurt Russel, NOT Universal Soldier)


A REAL oldie but worth a watch ... " Things To Come " with Raymond Massey and Ralph Richardson .
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on February 04, 2012, 08:27:52 AM
I love sci fi ......and i can find something in each I really appreciate.... But district 9 doesn't belong near the top 25.

Battle LA was a pleasant surprise. Always like to see our soldiers win. Avatar.....I've seen it. Great movie as far as special effects, but the reference to global warming, soldiers the bad guys, all the liberal talking points are touched.

Too difficult to make a list, but I judge my favs by my tv time.....as if it is on, I'll try to watch. So Terminator, matrix, all the riddick stuff, predator,alien, if those series are playing, I watch.

Don't know if this is considered sci fi, but Armageddon is one of my all time favs. The right stuff..liked it. "Sunshine " is one I enjoyed also.

And not to forget the new stuff out. I'm hooked on ironman and can't wait for the avengers. And although probably not sci if, Real Steel was great, as it had something for me and the wife.

Chit, I'm leaving out Bruce bannon.....and Charles and storm and wolf man.....and fantastic 4...ok I meant to leave that out.

Oh, no sci if where a teenager saves the planet. And no friggin twilight.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 04, 2012, 10:07:52 AM
The movie that ALWAYS makes me stop and watch if I happen across in on TV is "The Thing". The story, characters, and setting are wonderfully done, and this is as good as pre-GCI special effects makeup gets. When the makeup and effects are this good, there is something about actual analog film capturing actual objects in an actual room that just looks more "real" than CGI, in certain respects.

CGI of course has its own superiorities, and it is looking more "in real space" with every year that goes by. Gollum was groundbreaking in that regard. But "The Thing", and films from that era like "Alien", began to take the concept of "if you can imagine it, you can make it look real in a movie" to its pinnacle.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 04, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
Loved all the Alien movies; if any of them are on, I'm sucked in.  The original Alien hooked me because it was the first movie I'd ever seen where the "heroine" didn't jump OVER the gun on her screeching way out of the room.

Both Riddick movies, both Ironman (s) and both Transformer (s).  Sorry, Don; teenage boy saves world.

Terminator, Matrix, Armageddon, Red Planet, Space Cowboys, Mission to Mars* -- speaking of *Gary Sinese, really liked Imposters; not sci-fi though, futuristic (although IMDB classifies it as sci-fi).
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 04, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
...The original Alien hooked me because it was the first movie I'd ever seen where the "heroine" didn't jump OVER the gun on her screeching way out of the room...

Yup. Sigourney Weaver & her Ellen Ripley kicked the door down for female action heroes. There were tough chicks before that, but not like Ripley. Every ass-kicking movie heroine has that movie to thank for upping the game.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on February 04, 2012, 01:59:41 PM
Loved all the Alien movies; if any of them are on, I'm sucked in.  The original Alien hooked me because it was the first movie I'd ever seen where the "heroine" didn't jump OVER the gun on her screeching way out of the room.

Both Riddick movies, both Ironman (s) and both Transformer (s).  Sorry, Don; teenage boy saves world.

Terminator, Matrix, Armageddon, Red Planet, Space Cowboys, Mission to Mars* -- speaking of *Gary Sinese, really liked Imposters; not sci-fi though, futuristic (although IMDB classifies it as sci-fi).
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Pan, I love the transformers movies. I guess there is the exception to every rule......lol.....
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 04, 2012, 04:38:59 PM
Love the transformer movies? Really? I couldn't even figure out which robots were the good guys till my son informed be to look at the color of their eyes.
CGI is great until it goes past what my brain can actually process, and transformers certainly hit that mark. And yes, I am sick of teenager saves the world, but that is pretty much every Sci Fi film ( hey they know the target audience) - even Star Wars.

I you cannot get me to admit there was another Alien film bast Aliens. They didn't happen.  Alien IV was one of the 2 films in my entire life that  I just turned off and didn't finish ( I have a high tolerance for crap - I even watched all of Sphere)  Aliens III/IV were just awful.
 
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 04, 2012, 05:02:58 PM
I liked all the Alien movies. In fact, I like 3 & 4 better than 2. I dig the transformer movies too, but mostly for the CGI.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 04, 2012, 06:27:41 PM
Love the transformer movies? Really? I couldn't even figure out which robots were the good guys till my son informed be to look at the color of their eyes.
CGI is great until it goes past what my brain can actually process, and transformers certainly hit that mark. And yes, I am sick of teenager saves the world, but that is pretty much every Sci Fi film ( hey they know the target audience) - even Star Wars.

I you cannot get me to admit there was another Alien film bast Aliens. They didn't happen.  Alien IV was one of the 2 films in my entire life that  I just turned off and didn't finish ( I have a high tolerance for crap - I even watched all of Sphere)  Aliens III/IV were just awful.
 

I agree about the Transformer movies being hard to follow .... the first time.  It got easier with each successive viewing.

eta: The 'bots were hard to follow as to who was who.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on February 04, 2012, 10:56:09 PM
Couldn't follow the robots? The decepticons carried a different emblem......similar to the volt.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Pandora on February 05, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
Couldn't follow the robots? The decepticons carried a different emblem......similar to the volt.

No.  Ofttimes, they were just metal-jumbles moving very, very fast and therefore, hard to focus on.  Guess I have old eyes, too. 
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: RickZ on February 11, 2012, 12:56:34 AM
17/25

As far as fantasy films go, can I take Reds?  Or any drama with George Clooney?

One sci-fi movie not mentioned, and maybe not a great one, but one I enjoyed:  Outland, with Sean Connery.  But then, I can't think of a Sean Connery movie I didn't like; I may not have loved it, but I didn't hate it.

I now find the original The Andromeda Strain to be dated.  I watched it again recently, and I was bored to tears.

I have always hated the final cut of 2001:  A Space Odyssey (or as a MAD magazine satire at the time called it, 201 Minutes of Space Idiocy [the stupid things one remembers from being a kid]).  I thought roughly the first half was great; the monkeys and the stele, not so much.

They Live has one of the greatest lines in movie history, not just sci-fi:  "I came here to kick @ss and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum."  Poetry.  Pure poetry.  Right up there with Rhett Butler's GWTW closing line, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."

One sci-fi guilty pleasure is The Last Starfighter, which also happened to be Robert Preston's last theatrical film (two tv movies followed).  He died three years after release.

Another excellent sci-fi film unmentioned is The Hidden (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093185/).  A real gem.

An underrated, and almost unkown, sci-fi film is Trancers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090192/), which has to have one of the best lead character names of all time, Trooper Jack Deth.

And who can forget that Don Johnson sci-fi classic, A Boy And His Dog (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/)?

I'll close with another unmentioned sci-fi movie, a comedy, Mel Brooks' Spaceballs.  May not have been up to Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein standards, but I laughed -- a lot -- at that movie.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Glock32 on February 11, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
I you cannot get me to admit there was another Alien film bast Aliens. They didn't happen.  Alien IV was one of the 2 films in my entire life that  I just turned off and didn't finish ( I have a high tolerance for crap - I even watched all of Sphere)  Aliens III/IV were just awful.
 

I could not agree more. My official Alien canon ends with the second film. Everything after that was in some alternate Alien universe as far as I'm concerned. The first two films were each masterpieces of science fiction in their own different ways.

Alien 3 just pissed me off right from the start, the perfunctory dismissal of the two other survivors from the second film. There was so much potential for a good sequel.
Title: Re: A shocking list of movies I've never seen
Post by: Predator Don on February 11, 2012, 09:25:02 AM
Ok......watched The Grey last nite.

I'm not gonna say it was a bad flick. There is a story to the movie which isn't bad, but I was tired last nite, didn't want to think too much and wanted gratuitous violence.....and I didn't get enough. I needed a movie with little story line.

I also didn't like the ending and  I figured out what was gonna happen, and obviously so did the guy behind me because he muttered " if this is the ending I'm gonna be pissed."  he was pissed.