It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Economy => Topic started by: Pandora on May 22, 2012, 08:28:57 AM
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The other day, I called a friend and interrupted her mid-cry. She'd just returned from putting her only son on a plane to China, where he was moving after giving up on getting a job here.
The next day in the supermarket, I bumped into another friend, looking downcast. She told me her only son was planning his move to Hong Kong, after a fruitless year-long search for a job in the financial sector.
"Obama's destroying the economy," she told me; then she looked nervously around at our hyper-Blue State neighbors. "I feel like I have to whisper, or they're going to come and arrest me."
Welcome to Obama's America 2012, a joy-free zone in which the best and brightest youth are flocking to a Communist dictatorship, because they see more hope of economic opportunity there.
With 1 out of 2 recent college graduates out of work, the future leaders of the nation are hanging out in Mom's basement, enjoying their parents' health insurance coverage, while nodding off in a government-induced haze.
But many of the most driven, entrepreneurial types -- the kind of unstoppable hustlers who built America -- are bolting and may never return.
Why should they when they might land a fine job with that quintessential American company, Procter & Gamble? Its beauty unit is slamming the door on Ohio, and moving its headquarters to Singapore.
Or maybe they'll get a piece of Eduardo Saverin's next venture. He's the billionaire co-founder of Facebook who just tore up his U.S. citizenship.
Back in the halcyon pre-Obama days, Saverin emigrated here from Brazil, looking for opportunity. Well, he found it -- and now he's following it to Singapore.
Ah yes, it's the glorious age of Hope and Change -- when Americans are renouncing their citizenship faster than Obama can grab cash at a George Clooney fundraiser. In 2011, a record 1,789 Americans gave up their US citizenship, exceeding the totals from 2007, 2008 and 2009 combined.
But even though America is bleeding jobs and draining brains, talent, and opportunity, don't let Obama hear you complain.
The man gets very mad when you don't genuflect to his hokum. And if you make a big donation to Romney, expect O's wrath to pour down upon your cranium good and hard.
The Wall Street Journal tells us that Obama's campaign website publicly names and shames eight private citizens who gave to Romney. The president's website accuses these new public enemies of living "on the wrong side of the law," where they reap illicit profits at "the expense of so many Americans, " thereby earning "less-than-reputable records."
After Obama denounced Romney donor Frank VanderSloot of Idaho Falls, Idaho, something rather curious happened. Michael Wolf, a former Democratic law clerk from the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, began trolling through VanderSloot's divorce records. What a coincidence!
Yes, for the crime of donating to Obama's opponent, Frank VanderSloot is getting the full Roto-Rooter treatment, just like Joe the Plumber. Remember Joe?
When candidate Obama inconveniently told Joe that he wanted to "spread the wealth," Joe quickly became a target. Helen Jones-Kelley, head of Ohio's Department of Jobs and Family Services, authorized searches of confidential state databases, looking for Joe's child support and unemployment records.
Obey Obama, comrades, or pay the price!
But don't worry. I'm writing this very softly so Obama can't hear. Because just between you and me, I want to ask: If Obama is pushing out our best and brightest entrepreneurs to distant shores, who's he pulling in?
Well, here's an interesting fact: a new survey reveals that the number of Muslims in the U.S. has soared 67% since the 9/11 attacks. Thanks to our State Department's massive importation of Muslim immigrants, Islam is now the fastest growing religion in America, up from 1 million in 2000 to 2.6 million today.
What could possibly go wrong? Don't you trust the State Department to sift out wretched refuse like the Times Square bomber, and the convicted plotters against Fort Dix, the New York subway system, and JFK airport?
Driving out wealth creators and importing potential destroyers may seem like national suicide, but it's a winning formula for mansion-dwelling, Marxist politicians. Just ask François ("3 Homes on the Riviera") Hollande, who catapulted into the French presidency by garnishing 93% of the Muslim vote.
Now France's successful citizens are stampeding out the door, desperate to get to England, Israel, or anywhere outside his sticky clutches. And that means more votes for François next time around!
Meanwhile, back in the former land of the free, Obama plays the same cynical game, intimidating and threatening opponents, so that even a frightened mother in the supermarket feels like she has to whisper.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/whispering_the_truth_in_obamas_america.html#ixzz1vbYrJlAE (http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/whispering_the_truth_in_obamas_america.html#ixzz1vbYrJlAE)
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Some days I really consider what it would be like to sell it all, and become a missionary in some remote place where protecting liberty is no longer my concern because it gives way to just feeding myself and others day-to-day.
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Some days I really consider what it would be like to sell it all, and become a missionary in some remote place where protecting liberty is no longer my concern because it gives way to just feeding myself and others day-to-day.
This is an existential and spiritual battle; it exists everywhere now, even for bush missionaries.
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Agreed. There is no escape. There is only fight or submit.
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When I ride through the neighborhood I grew up in, which was transformed into Tijuana in only a few years, and I read about White newborns being the minority, and how the media is gleefully reminding the GOP that its voters are "White, old, and dying off", and I see the total and deliberate absence of security on the southern border, I do quite often find myself entertaining emigration. Not exactly sure where to go. Europe is worse, Canada will probably succumb to America's death throes, maybe Australia or New Zealand?
I mean, the people we're expecting to fight on our behalf in government won't even acknowledge that any of this is a problem. We're being, literally, transformed into a Third World country. All on purpose.
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When I ride through the neighborhood I grew up in, which was transformed into Tijuana in only a few years, and I read about White newborns being the minority, and how the media is gleefully reminding the GOP that its voters are "White, old, and dying off", and I see the total and deliberate absence of security on the southern border, I do quite often find myself entertaining emigration. Not exactly sure where to go. Europe is worse, Canada will probably succumb to America's death throes, maybe Australia or New Zealand?
I mean, the people we're expecting to fight on our behalf in government won't even acknowledge that any of this is a problem. We're being, literally, transformed into a Third World country. All on purpose.
Exactly, "all on purpose".
What kind of a people does this? What kind of a people tolerates it? It's a fcking outrage.
See, now my calm is damaged .......
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I like the landscape of New Zealand.
We've already talked about their gun laws...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_New_Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_New_Zealand)
And if interested in moving -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand)
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/ (http://www.immigration.govt.nz/)
And these are their "essential skills" in demand...
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/templates/custom/SearchskillshortagesPopup.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID=%7b3B3850BF-FB16-43DF-9CCD-FE0342BFB73C%7d&NRORIGINALURL=%2fmigrant%2fstream%2fwork%2fskilledmigrant%2fLinkAdministration%2fToolboxLinks%2fessentialskills%2ehtm%3flevel%3d1&NRCACHEHINT=Guest&level=1 (http://www.immigration.govt.nz/templates/custom/SearchskillshortagesPopup.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID=%7b3B3850BF-FB16-43DF-9CCD-FE0342BFB73C%7d&NRORIGINALURL=%2fmigrant%2fstream%2fwork%2fskilledmigrant%2fLinkAdministration%2fToolboxLinks%2fessentialskills%2ehtm%3flevel%3d1&NRCACHEHINT=Guest&level=1)
(I guess I could get back into auditing...but damn, I don't want that...I want to raise sheep in some low-density mountain valley somewhere...) ::gaah::
Perhaps we should dispense with formal emigration procedures...I mean if people pour into our country illegally I guess it's only fair to reciprocate in our countries of choice!
:P
Anyway, the only reason bugging out is even a consideration is because as Glock states, when our own rep's refuse to acknowledge our problems and fight for them and they are unharmed by ignoring us...
It really condenses the options we realistically have...
::gaah::
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Maybe we should do a group migration to the rural south island of NZ. I think I'd prefer that to Australia, because I like temperate weather with 4 distinct seasons. Getting used to Christmas as a summertime holiday would be tough though.
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Maybe we should do a group migration to the rural south island of NZ. I think I'd prefer that to Australia, because I like temperate weather with 4 distinct seasons. Getting used to Christmas as a summertime holiday would be tough though.
I hear that. Modifying: Warm Christmas on the beach? Nope, not right. One of the reasons I wasn't happy in California.
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Maybe we should do a group migration to the rural south island of NZ. I think I'd prefer that to Australia, because I like temperate weather with 4 distinct seasons. Getting used to Christmas as a summertime holiday would be tough though.
I hear that. Modifying: Warm Christmas on the beach? Nope, not right. One of the reasons I wasn't happy in California.
In my entire life I spent one Christmas in warm climes - Orlando, two winters ago. I felt like I got pulled from Earth onto Mars or something. We had a great time, but - totally whacked, Christmas at Disney World. We vowed to never do anything like it again.
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Being in Florida, on the coast, at Christmastime might be nice. Once. Maybe just for a few days. I understand the boats are decorated with lights and decorations as one would do a house. Bet that would look pretty at night.
Not this past year, but the winter before, it snowed end of January/beginning of February. The house lights were still up and, as it hadn't snowed around Christmas AT ALL, I plugged 'em in.
I fully intended to do the same this past winter, but it never did snow and then we took the lights down. I did plug 'em in for my birthday, though. ;D
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Being in Florida, on the coast, at Christmastime might be nice. Once. Maybe just for a few days. I understand the boats are decorated with lights and decorations as one would do a house. Bet that would look pretty at night.
Not this past year, but the winter before, it snowed end of January/beginning of February. The house lights were still up and, as it hadn't snowed around Christmas AT ALL, I plugged 'em in.
I fully intended to do the same this past winter, but it never did snow and then we took the lights down. I did plug 'em in for my birthday, though. ;D
Growing up in Seattle we had the "Christmas Boat Parade" - a flotilla of private powerboats and sailboats that would dress up themselves up with lights (and a few sound systems) and caravan around Lake Washington. When I got a little older I got to be involved (through my dad) with the parade by sponsoring groups of disabled and handicapped kids for boat rides. In many cases it was the first (and probably only) ride they would ever take.
It was one of those "little things" that made Christmas special. Another tradition long since abandoned.
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I'll be the odd one out. I could so live with summer weather at Christmas. In a heart beat.
I could live in Hawaii. Except for the whole island thing. No one could afford to visit often. Wait.... ::thinking::
Australia or New Zealand it is!
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I'm not going anywhere. Somebody got to stay and take care of the hump backed camel problem.
I'm gonna sit back, open up a tall colt 45 and throw down a few shots. Maybe a few thousand shots if I'm lucky.
Nuthing like the smell of colt 45 in the morning, afternoon and evening.
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Maybe we should do a group migration to the rural south island of NZ. I think I'd prefer that to Australia, because I like temperate weather with 4 distinct seasons. Getting used to Christmas as a summertime holiday would be tough though.
Im in ..nz is colorado with an ocean. If we have to live under socialism..might as welk do it in a place that has more sheep than people and they dont take anything too seriously
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I had a friend who emigrated to NZ. He had a Masters in computer science and his wife was a rural veterinarian, they had over $250,000 in the bank and they barely met the immigration standards, and that was with 2 needed occupations. It's hard to get in there. But I'm willing to go!!!
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Are they glad they made the move?
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It is seriously a gorgeous land. The Lord of the Rings films were done there. I would love to at least visit there. Maybe I can meet me a lovely Kiwi lass and obtain residency that way :)
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
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I'll go G's route, marry a Kiwi lass and I'm in, baby! ::whoohoo::
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I'm pretty sure I'm already a Kiwi. My great grandmother looked like one and she gave me a recipe I put in a cookbook for New Zealander cooks.
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Ok, Liz.
::hysterical::
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
You mean you can't just invade, put down roots, an anchor baby, and claim citizenship? How unfriendly! How uncivilized! ::hysterical::
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
55?! That leaves me out.
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
55?! That leaves me out.
We'll sneak ya in. Clock is running fast for me, I might need to be snuck in as well!
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
55?! That leaves me out.
We'll sneak ya in. Clock is running fast for me, I might need to be snuck in as well!
I'm sure a birth certificate from Hawaii will suffice.
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how to get in: (http://www.enz.org/newzealandvisa.html) You need to be younger than 55 plus a bunch of other stuff for the work related avenue; have a boatload of money to invest or a solid business you are starting there, or close family already there.
55?! That leaves me out.
We'll sneak ya in. Clock is running fast for me, I might need to be snuck in as well!
I'm sure a birth certificate from Hawaii will suffice.
::hysterical::
Now, why didn't I think of that?!
Good shot LV!
::thumbsup::
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Did you notice that the ones threatening to leave in 2000 and 2004 ( Baldwin , Streisand , etc. ) if GWB won were the ones with a boatload of loot ? THEY didn't leave did they ? They're the very ones who'd feel right at home in a commie country .
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Did you notice that the ones threatening to leave in 2000 and 2004 ( Baldwin , Streisand , etc. ) if GWB won were the ones with a boatload of loot ? THEY didn't leave did they ? They're the very ones who'd feel right at home in a commie country .
Yeah...that's assbackwards...
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