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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 09:24:32 PM

Title: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 09:24:32 PM
I am creating this thread to track the fortunes of (for now) Barack Hussein O'Bama in his bid for a second term.

I am not creating one for the Republicans for a couple of reasons: A) I think that the primary season is way too early and B) there are too many candidates and topics where each issue probably deserves its own thread.

After we get down to one or two or even three primary candidates then it seems to me that a Republican version of this thread will be justified.

And there is a distinct possibility that BO will either withdraw from the race (not hugely likely given his world class ego) or face a primary challenge. If that happens this thread will change course slightly but that's why I'm not naming it The SCOAMF Edition...it gives the thread some flexibility. I will be chronicling the SCOAMF's electoral fortunes...polling data as it becomes available, trends in the MFM, the mood of the base and other anecdotal evidence as it seems appropriate. Obviously, others are welcome to contribute and pile on.

So without further ado here is the first entry:

In early April I posted a thread titled Trends In Public Opinion (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,936.msg9892.html#msg9892) in which I theorized that the tipping point had already passed for BO...that he was past the point of no return in his re-election bid. I think this is sort of similar to trying to chronicle a recession. That is, you don't know you are in one until about six or nine months later.

Well, the tipping point is now beginning to bear fruit. This first quote is from James Carville writing an op-ed for CNN... (http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/14/opinion/carville-white-house-advice/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

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People often ask me what advice I would give the White House about various things. Today I was mulling over election results from New York and Nevada while thinking about that very question. What should the White House do now? One word came to mind: Panic.

We are far past sending out talking points. Do not attempt to dumb it down. We cannot stand any more explanations. Have you talked to any Democratic senators lately? I have. It's pretty damn clear they are not happy campers.

This is what I would say to President Barack Obama: The time has come to demand a plan of action that requires a complete change from the direction you are headed.

This is an explicit warning. Words aren't minced here.

Now Carville has some ridiculous advice, too, particularly about having the Justice Department just start indicting Wall Street people but the tone of the article is unmistakeable.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 09:25:25 PM
And from the National Journal:

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“Democrats should be very nervous," said Bill Burton, a former White House spokesman and senior strategist at Priorities USA, which is raising millions of dollars for the 2012 election. “They need to put on their war paint and get ready for what is going to be a very difficult battle. Unless activists really engage and recognize the stakes of this fight, it’s going to be impossible for the president to win."

Though Burton strongly cautioned against reading too much into any one Democratic setback, he didn’t discount the signs of Obama discontent:

*A New York City district held by Democrats since 1923 fell to the GOP in a special election on Tuesday. A Republican political novice, businessman Bob Turner, framed the vote in the heavily Jewish district as a referendum on President Obama, raising questions about the level of his support with a key Democratic constituency.

*Republican Mark Amodei on Tuesday cruised into a congressional seat in the battleground state of Nevada in a special election Democrats had hoped would expose a backlash against the GOP over its proposed Medicare overhaul. It didn’t.

*The Republican National Committee raised more than $8 million last month, marking its best August in a nonelection year and crushing the $5.5 million haul by its Democratic counterpart—even after President Obama’s birthday fundraising drive.

*In the wake of economic reports showing job creation at a standstill, the U.S. Census reported on Tuesday that one in six Americans are living in poverty. Poverty last year surged to its highest level since 1993.

*Obama’s approval rating in California, traditionally a true-blue state for Democrats, slipped to 46 percent in a new Field Poll. The latest Bloomberg Poll found most Americans don’t believe the president’s $447 billion jobs plan will lower the unemployment rate.

The mine hasn’t collapsed, but the loss in New York is definitely a dead canary,’’ said Democratic strategist Craig Varoga, president of an independent liberal group called Patriot Majority. “It is going to be a very, very difficult election, and it is time to wake up and be bold.... We have to face reality and the fact of how unhappy and scared people are.’’
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
And from The Politico: (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63632.html)

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Four out of 10 Jewish Americans currently disapprove of Obama, according to polling data provided to POLITICO by Gallup, which has yet to post the numbers on its website.

This 40 percent disapproval rating is 8 percent higher than the 32 percent disapproval rating among Jewish Americans that was last reported by Gallup in June.

While Obama still remains popular with Jews, the data is the latest concrete indication that the president is facing worsening problems among a key group.

Obama’s approval rating among Jewish Americans is also down to 55 percent - a five point drop from his approval rating in June, which stood at 60 percent.

Together, the rise in disapproval and dip in approval ratings are a net negative 11 point downturn for Obama among Jews.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2011, 09:49:51 PM
NO way in hell SCoaMF will change course, no way.  They panic button will get hit and it'll be over-the-top hysterics and full-retard mode from now till election day and the congressional Dem's for the most part will play along when it suits them to throw raw meat to their loony base but they'll avoid the toxic SCoaMF as much as possible.  They are all boxed in with nowhere to go but to keep doubling, tripling and quadrupling down on stupid.  Like Chesty Puller said, "they can't get away from us now"!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
I don't think he will willingly bow out of the race. His ego will not permit it.

I think that he will be defined by two things: His stubborn adherence to the communist principles that he was taught as a young man and his apparent general lack of intelligence as evidenced by that stubbornness.

I also think that it will be a long time before these things are officially recognized.

(Please, someone report me to AttackWatch)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
I don't think he will willingly bow out of the race. His ego will not permit it.

I think that he will be defined by two things: His stubborn adherence to the communist principles that he was taught as a young man and his apparent general lack of intelligence as evidenced by that stubbornness.

I also think that it will be a long time before these things are officially recognized.

(Please, someone report me to AttackWatch)

 ::hysterical::

Not me, I only read truthful statements, let them try to prove any error exists!

 ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2011, 11:16:26 PM
Mental illness cannot, at this point, be ruled out:

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“Over the last couple of months there have been Democrats who voiced concerns and nervousness about, well, in this kind of economy, isn’t this just — aren’t these just huge headwinds in terms of your reelection?” Obama said.

“And I just have to remind people that, here’s one thing I know for certain: the odds of me being reelected are much higher than the odds of me being elected in the first place.

Delusion and narcissism. This type of talk has got to really go over like a lead balloon with the party elites.

LINK (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/obama-election-odds-better-in-2012-than-2008/)

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“We remain very confident about our ability to win a contest of ideas in 2012,” Obama said, “as long as we can get the message out.”
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 15, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
He's a walking, talking, living example of denial not just being an Egyptian river.

He got the message out, loud and clear, aided and abetted by his merry band of commie thugs.

We don't want what he's selling and, although we've made that perfectly clear, he's put the onus on US as not understanding what he proposes.  I used to think if I simply rearranged sentences and used alternative language that I could make myself understood, when what I came to learn was that some people already grok what I'm saying, but THEY JUST DON'T AGREE.

I want him gone ..... and the rest with him.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on September 16, 2011, 04:33:16 AM
Stymie most certainly won't bow out . Whether another Dem will challenge him for the nomination is a matter of conjecture . I would think no simply because I can't think of somebody who's strong enough to step in and straighten out the mess Stymie has made . Even the Dems consider this to be Stymie's Economy and to run against him would be to run against the failed core values of the Dem. Party .

If there is a Dem dumb enough to try you won't see him or her until after January when the economic trends for 2012 are more developed .

All we need do is hope that Stymies continues to plow ahead like a mule that's had the harness taken to it too many times . With the House in our control we can limit the damage between now and Jan. 2013 .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 09:50:12 AM

From the WSJ: (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903927204576572782466492342.html)


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Barack Obama now faces perhaps his most politically crippling deficit of all: a credibility deficit.

That observation is reflected in the latest Bloomberg poll, which finds that on the heels of his big jobs speech last Thursday night, more than half of Americans (51%) do not believe the president's claim that this latest $447 billion spend-and-tax-or-borrow scheme will create new jobs.

"As the economy has gotten worse, people have stopped listening to Obama and his speeches are no longer an asset, they're a liability," concludes Kellyanne Conway, president of the Polling Company. That is because the gulf between three years of rhetoric and reality is so gigantic.

It is hard to make a persuasive case for a $447 billion economic stimulus plan that looks and sounds so much like the $830 billion plan that Americans were sold two-and-a-half years ago. That first plan didn't "create or save" the 3.5 million jobs the White House promised, and most Americans don't agree with Vice President Biden that it worked beyond his "wildest dreams." Tell that to the 14 million Americans—two million more than when all the spending and borrowing began—who are still out of work, or the tens of millions who do have jobs but have seen their income drop in the last two years.

At some point you have to wonder, "Who gives campaign contributions to a very dubious looking candidate?"

When will we begin to see the stories about O'Bama's underperforming fundraising and how do you suppose the MFM will spin it so as not to reflect the truth of the matter?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 16, 2011, 10:01:27 AM
Good find Trap.

As I go about my Community Agitating (!) I've taken to asking dhimmis if they even know of anyone who has received one of these 'stimulus jobs'. Of course the answer is no one. Not only have they not personally benefited from pResident Downgrayedd's targeted largesse, they can't even identify anyone in their midst who has.

It is your responsibility, your duty to go out into your community and shovel the FUD like this as if your very life depends upon it. I know that mine does.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 10:13:15 AM

As I go about my Community Agitating (!) I've taken to asking dhimmis if they even know of anyone who has received one of these 'stimulus jobs'. Of course the answer is no one.

Along similar lines...in my day to day work activity I encounter a lot of people and I will, as the situation permits, ask them who they voted for in the last general election. I have yet to find anyone who [will admit] sez they voted for President Zero. I run into all kinds of people who say [proudly] that they voted for Clinton but no one wants to claim responsibility for a vote for the SCOAMF.

Anecdotal, I know, but there it is.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
Blatant leftist hack Margaret Carlson (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-16/obama-picks-a-fight-to-define-2012-election-margaret-carlson.html) weighs in with a (sort of) pep talk of her own.

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At least the charade is over. For far too long, President Barack Obama clung to the notion that we can all get along in a bitterly divided capital and nation.

He’d come to look like a chump being rolled -- and rolled again -- by his Republican opposition. His most ardent supporters were losing faith as he sought to show independents what a reasonable fellow he is.

Last week, Obama dropped the demeanor of the Grand Compromiser and came out swinging in his address to a joint session of Congress. He kept his dukes up on his jobs tour, which he pointedly began in Richmond, Virginia, home of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. He told Congress, in effect, “Yeah, I’m going to pay for my $447 billion jobs bill by raising taxes on the well-to-do: Want to make something of it?”

This complete nincompoop (Carlson) goes yammering on from here about how O'Bama really has this election in the bag...NY-9 means nothing! Negative polling? Forget about it! Full steam ahead with more spending and higher taxes! Yay!

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JPMorgan Chase predicts that Obama’s jobs bill would increase growth by 1.9 percent and create 1.5 million jobs. That doesn’t mean it will happen. Republicans are willing to risk a double-dip recession as they wait for the inauguration of President Romney or Perry, or a white knight yet to be named. “The people who sent us here,” Obama said in his speech to Congress, “don’t have the luxury of waiting 14 months” for help. In Columbus, Ohio, 3,500 people cheered when Obama said he could create jobs if other politicians stopped “worrying so much about their jobs.”

Delusional. There's really no other word for it when it comes to O'Bama acolytes. She is invested in this idiot. She admits that spending another half a trillion bucks that we don't have may not work but, dammit, we just gotta do it 'cause Barry's special or something.

Good luck with that.

And, oh yeah, 3500 paid union workers managed to turn out in Columbus, Ohio to tepidly applaud President Zero. BFD.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
The pep talks just keep coming today. This one is an un-authored one (meaning it's from the management) at ]the NYT.[/b] (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/16/opinion/bipartisanship-of-the-wrong-kind.html?_r=1&ref=opinion[b) Imagine my amusement at reading these words of "encouragement"

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As soon as he proposed to pay for his $447 billion jobs plan with tax increases, President Obama knew he was going to do battle with Republicans. But he is also being challenged by Democrats because they cannot face another big pre-election fight or are thinking more about campaign contributors than the country’s best interests.

It is time for Mr. Obama to think about what Lyndon Johnson would do. Mr. Johnson did not flinch from confronting his caucus when he needed to, and neither should Mr. Obama.

I don't know how to interpret this. Should it be read as is or is the true meaning implied?

Because everyone knows what LBJ did. LBJ stepped down in 1968 rather than run an absolutely doomed campaign.

But then the NYTs goes on to cheer for some kind of a Democrat suicide pact:

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Some Democrats oppose the jobs bill for its apparent connection to the stimulus law from 2009, which Republicans lambasted on their way to victories in the midterm elections in 2010. The problem with the stimulus bill is not that it did not work. The problem is that neither the administration nor Congressional Democrats ever persuasively used the evidence of its positive effect on jobs, as documented by the Congressional Budget Office and in private economic analyses.

The last thing Democrats should do now is repeat that mistake, cowing in the face of Republican tirades against government help. Economists have estimated that Mr. Obama’s plan, if fully adopted, could create 1.3 million to 1.9 million jobs next year. Despite poll after poll showing that Americans support tax increases on the wealthy, Democrats have failed to act. In 2010, with majorities in both houses of Congress, they did not even vote on letting President Bush’s high-end tax cuts expire.

The Republicans will not support the jobs bill, if only because Mr. Obama wants it. Americans need Democrats to step up now, and for Mr. Obama to lead them.

Un-real. It's sort of like a collective left wing mental illness. You have to just marvel at the NYTs, of all sources, saying that the supposed message of job creation somehow inexplicably never got out. It's like they are totally forgetting their prominent role in spreading that mythology. I suppose they are at one time both scolding the Democrats for not doing it and shifting blame from themselves for not being able to con enough dupes into believing this nonsense.

Ah well, the cheerleading (if that's what it is) continues.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 11:19:32 AM
Okay, one more and then I have to actually be productive and make some money. Besides, Rush just started.

This article from The Politico (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63508_Page2.html) is yet another in the "tipping point" series where suddenly the press has turned on O'Bama. This one is perhaps a bit more blatant and striking than most to date in its criticism.

It's long and detailed. There's some angst. But mostly its pretty darned critical. Someone needs to report this to AttackWatch. Report me, too, for posting it.

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The Obama administration’s belated attempt to address the looming employment crisis — after three years focused largely on reviving Wall Street, redoing health care and creating a “green” economy — reflects not only ineptitude but a deeper crisis of what is best understood as the “gentry presidency.”

Unlike previous Democratic presidents, including John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton, President Barack Obama’s base primarily lies not with the working and middle classes, who would have demanded effective job action, but with the rising power of the post-industrial castes, who have largely continued to flourish even through the current economic maelstrom.

Can you believe the following quote comes from the left wing media?

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Other initiatives have slowed potential growth, particularly the threat of new draconian environmental regulations. Fossil-fuel development, for example, represents one of the best opportunities for new, high-wage employment for blue- and white-collar workers. In contrast, the massive expenditures of public money on “green jobs” has turned out to be less than effective in creating blue-collar employment.

How on Earth did that get past the editors?

Three pages and there is only the most fleeting mention of O'Bama's culpability in this mess but it is there and in the opening paragraphs. So...it's something. Grudging admission of presidential stupidity but admission nonetheless.

The tipping point has passed.




Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 16, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
HITLER discovers ATTACKWATCH.. is a joke ::laughonfloor::

September 16, 2011

Hitler Discovers ATTACKWATCH is a Joke! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPwDRZ6pTM#ws)!
Hitler Discovers ATTACKWATCH is a Joke! - YouTube ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
Hot Air Post (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/16/brutal-obamas-job-approval-and-favorable-rating-hit-new-lows-in-nyt-poll/)

Well, this is interesting...O'Bama is negative in his personal likeability polling for the first time ever? Good post. You should read it.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 17, 2011, 12:19:34 PM
National Journal post about the NYT/CBS poll mentioned above. (http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/09/poll-obamas-fav.php)

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For the first time, more Americans have an unfavorable opinion of President Obama than have a favorable opinion of him, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll released late Friday, an indication that dissatisfaction with the president's job performance and the direction of the country is dragging down how Americans view Obama personally.

Just 39 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of Obama, while 42 percent view him unfavorably. In January of this year, 40 percent had a favorable image of Obama, and 34 percent had an unfavorable opinion. In January 2009, as he was inaugurated, 60 percent of Americans had a favorable opinion of him.

Dennis Miller didn't vote for him and has never been in favor of his policies but has liked BO personally. Until now. Here is a link (http://www.breitbart.tv/dennis-miller-i-dont-like-obama-anymore-because-he-doesnt-like-me-and-around-50-percent-of-america/) to a Breitbart clip from the O'Reilly show. (Miller is about the only bright spot of any O'Reilly show and thankfully he doesn't attempt to walk all over Miller in this clip.)

Anyway, what's the point?

The point is that BO may have reached a tipping point with the public (a different tipping point from the media) that, if real, he may never be able to reclaim. That is, once people decide that they don't like you (as in Dennis Miller's case) there isn't any going back on that. So this is a trend that will need to be looked at carefully over the next couple of months. I expect that the MFM will try to prop BO up and publish some polls (with dubious samplings) that try to mitigate this but if the public really has decided that BO is unlikeable then this will be much like trying to hold back the tide.

Ultimately, the MFM will follow the public. They will try to persuade and advocate but they can only beat a dead horse for so long before they begin to lose credibility (in their eyes) with the public. So eventually, grudgingly and stubbornly, they will turn on their hero. They have already begun this process but it's been more along the lines of "coaching" BO to try and get him to somehow reclaim the popularity he had during his inauguration. That's magical thinking but right now that's all the MFM has with this loser. When they really turn on him the change in tone will be unmistakeable. It will be a "blood in shark infested water" type of tone...a "piling on" type of attitude.

This is progress. There is still a tough election campaign ahead because I don't think that BO will step aside and he will still have a lot of money to spend in his doomed quest for a second term. No one on the right can relax but they can approach the campaign with confidence and a sense of inevitability rather than fear and doubt about defeating BO. Those feelings of fear and doubt exist right now but they are largely to be found within the ranks of the Democrat members of Congress (especially the Senate) where being even vaguely associated with BO can cost them several points in the polls.

If the economy weren't so deathly bad, this next year would be a happy time for conservatives.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 17, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
Now on the other hand, there are always going to be those in the MFM who have taken the role of pure acolyte, true believer. This is their hill to die on and they are going to do it.

You can ALWAYS count on the government funded idiots at NPR to fill this role. They will go down with the ship because he is their sugar daddy and they know it. They embrace it. They are totally wed to this guy.

If you need proof of this total devotion and unquestioning faith by NPR in this clown I give you this link. (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/09/14/140482703/obama-if-you-love-me-you-got-to-help-me-pass-this-bill)

I am not going to post the quote here. It's too icky even for me. But you should follow the link and read the article. It's stomach churning. I am not exaggerating.

These clods have got to be defunded. Soon.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 17, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
Also of interest is the magical thinking of David Axelrod. (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/09/16/memo-from-axelrod-calm-down/) Now, in his defense, this is the way these guys are supposed to act and sound. That's why they call it spin. But it's still funny to read:

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President Obama’s re-election campaign, smarting from days of doom-saying, sent out a memo from Mr. Axelrod Friday morning, saying prognosticators busy burying any chance of an Obama Second Term don’t understand what’s really going on in the nation’s body politic. Sure, the president’s approval ratings are in dangerously low territory 14 months before the 2012 election. But Americans like his plan to create jobs and boost the economy. They trust Mr. Obama and like him.

It sure must suck to have the job of saying up is down and black is white. But I hear that the pay is pretty good.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 17, 2011, 01:03:07 PM
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"Dennis Miller didn't vote for him and has never been in favor of his policies but has liked BO personally. Until now. Here is a link to a Breitbart clip from the O'Reilly show. (Miller is about the only bright spot of any O'Reilly show and thankfully he doesn't attempt to walk all over Miller in this clip.)"

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"but has liked BO personally"


Just like the old Seifeld clip, when discussing Gay's, always ened a sentence; "have nothing against them personally!" Oh really? Everytime the name of Obama is mentioned, you have to add a disclaimer. Why? because if you don't, the Liberals will pounce on you as a racist. The trouble is. Seinfeld was funny, BO ain't!

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 18, 2011, 01:35:18 PM
Uh, oh.

This is, how shall I put it? Unprecedented for THE ONE. Yeah, that about sums it up. This marks the first time in his life when his cheering section hasn't been cheering...when his slobbering sycophants haven't been telling him that his poop doesn't stink...

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I checked the Constitution, and he is under no compulsion to run for re-election. He can scrap the campaign, bag the fundraising calls and never watch another Republican debate as long as he's willing to vacate the premises by Jan. 20, 2013.

That might be the sensible thing to do. It's hard for a president to win a second term when unemployment is painfully high. If the economy were in full rebound mode, Obama might win anyway. But it isn't, and it may fall into a second recession — in which case voters will decide his middle name is Hoover, not Hussein. Why not leave of his own volition instead of waiting to get the ax?

Where is this particular piece of advice coming from? Fox News? No. The Washington Times? Uh, uh. No, this is coming from the editorial pages of the Chicago Tribune. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/ct-oped-0918-chapman-20110918,0,5039308.story)

This comes on the heels of James Careville's "It's time to panic" essay.

Yes, the tipping point with the media has definitely passed.

O'Bama is no longer the godlike being of the 2008 campaign who proclaimed that his coming would be heralded by the oceans ceasing to rise. No, that guy doesn't exist anymore. He never did, of course, but now that mythic figure has been purged from the MFM.

There will perhaps not be a flood of editorials encouraging him to quit but I predict an ever escalating flow of criticism that has been heretofore unknown in the personal experience of the young princeling. Worse, for him, history will, I believe, judge him more harshly than GWB. Humiliation that lasts a lifetime and beyond.


HotAir analysis can be found here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/18/chitrib-editor-say-maybe-its-time-for-obama-to-withdraw-from-2012/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 18, 2011, 02:05:22 PM

GWB will be judged sandwiched between the failures of BJC and BHO with Albert Gore as the spread.
He will also be judged in front of the backdrop terrorist invasion.  History will be kind to him.

However, BHO packing his bags, I'll donate to the fundraiser for staff to help him and Mitchelle pack and make travel arrangements.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 18, 2011, 03:15:02 PM
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, How Was The Play? (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/16/obama-polls-droppin/)

A brutal summary by Commentary of the most recent week in the life of Mr. Fabulous.

It's brief but takes things right to the bottom line.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 18, 2011, 04:26:38 PM
thanks for the links, trap.

all I can add is:


 ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban::

I could never understand how people could say they liked him personally even though they disagreed with his policies.  What's to like? ::whatgives::

But I digress:

 ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban:: ::danceban::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 19, 2011, 10:28:37 AM
http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results (http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2011, 11:25:45 AM
Mr. Gardasil and Mrs. Anti-Gardasil?  Who is apologizing to whom?

 ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 19, 2011, 11:27:09 AM
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, How Was The Play? (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/16/obama-polls-droppin/)

A brutal summary by Commentary of the most recent week in the life of Mr. Fabulous.

It's brief but takes things right to the bottom line.


As the election gets closer and the enevitable loss for obama, I believe there will be hoards jumping off the ship. It may become quite amusing.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 19, 2011, 11:45:19 AM

Today, the speech, the long pauses looking up at nothing, is he spacing out or was it just a teleprompter malfunction?



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 19, 2011, 11:45:49 AM
Mr. Gardasil and Mrs. Anti-Gardasil?  Who is apologizing to whom?

 ::whatgives::


Kind of scary ain't it?  ::gaah::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2011, 11:51:22 AM

Today, the speech, the long pauses looking up at nothing, is he spacing out or was it just a teleprompter malfunction?





Whats the difference?

 ::hysterical::

Could be stoned...and gassy from hash brownie breakfast...

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2011, 11:53:16 AM
Mr. Gardasil and Mrs. Anti-Gardasil?  Who is apologizing to whom?

 ::whatgives::


Kind of scary ain't it?  ::gaah::

No way she takes 2nd banana from Perry, no way.

Palin/Bachmann makes more sense...hell Perry/Paul makes more sense!  (Now that would be scary!)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 19, 2011, 12:05:16 PM

Long ago I thought it would be Perry / Palin.  Then it appeared her major intent was to insure a stronger candidate than Romney, running interference.  Nowadays she just seems disruptive.  Her motive is less clear.
Maybe after the election she's going to move to Arizona and run for JohnnyMac's seat.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 19, 2011, 02:38:56 PM
Headline at Drudge has libs vowing to mount a primary challenge to the doofus in chief...

Quote
President Obama’s smooth path to the Democratic nomination may have gotten rockier Monday, after a group of liberal leaders, including former presidential candidate Ralph Nader, announced plans to challenge the incumbent in primaries next year.

The group said the goal is to offer up a handful of candidates from various fields and areas where the president either has failed to stake out a “progressive” position or where he has “drifted toward the corporatist right.”

“Without debates by challengers inside the Democratic Party’s presidential primaries, the liberal/majoritarian agenda will be muted and ignored,” Mr. Nader said in a news release. “The one-man Democratic primaries will be dull, repetitive, and draining of both voter enthusiasm and real bright lines between the two parties that excite voters.”

LINK (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/19/liberals-vow-challenge-obama-democratic-primaries/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 19, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
There is a big part of me - the part that believes that if I can think of it, so can others; the part that sees the entire power-structure of the Left grabbing all it can now without regard to consequence - that part of me believes that perhaps an Obama second term was never the intention. That his role was to fall on the sword of ObamaCare at all cost. That the plan from the very beginning was to implement as much radical Leftism as possible as quickly as possible without regard to short-term political cost, and then when the population is sufficiently alarmed and agitated, usher in the 4-year-absent and unobtrusive Hillary Clinton as the more "moderate" alternative to the extreme Obama and whomever the GOP puts up as a nominee.

Idunno.

Let's face it. Anything short of a GOP route of both houses of congress and the Presidency, and ObamaCare is an entitlement to the bitter end. If they can protect the Presidency, even at the cost of jettisoning Obama, they will. And that begs the question as to their intentions all along.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 19, 2011, 03:59:47 PM
I don't know IDP.  I'm not sure that the hard left is that clever.  They seem the sort to pin their hopes on the violence of the masses to get what they want.  And so far that isn't happening. The majority of American people aren't behaving as they expected.  The leftys
 models are the poor folks on the south side of Chicago and disenchanted wannabe college students -- they don't get the rest of the country.

I think they thought the sheen from Obama's greatness was the key to controlling the masses and if necessary to spur violence. The masses want to be left the hell alone. 


Just as we fear that we may have to vote for anyone but Obama the dems were in that mood in 2008.  Anyone but a repub and the dems lucked out and got a shiny suit that appeared wonderful. I think Hillary could have beat McCain.  She would have been as bad.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Quote
She would have been as bad.

Damn straight! 

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Not a breath's worth of difference between her and The Taupe Hope.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 19, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
I wasn't suggesting there is a difference. Only that as a political strategy, it could be made to work. Obama fatigue, conservative demonization, careful message control and staying out of the public mind for 4 years.

Hillary is an Alinskyite, we all know this. But Alinskyites craft lies to their advantage.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 19, 2011, 05:47:46 PM
I wasn't suggesting there is a difference. Only that as a political strategy, it could be made to work. Obama fatigue, conservative demonization, careful message control and staying out of the public mind for 4 years.

Hillary is an Alinskyite, we all know this. But Alinskyites craft lies to their advantage.

Well, I never underestimate the ability of people to want to be fooled....
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2011, 06:00:51 PM
I wasn't suggesting there is a difference. Only that as a political strategy, it could be made to work. Obama fatigue, conservative demonization, careful message control and staying out of the public mind for 4 years.

Hillary is an Alinskyite, we all know this. But Alinskyites craft lies to their advantage.

Wasn't suggesting you were suggesting there is a difference, but I never see, hear or think of Her Thighness without recalling that quote. 

And then recalling "Father" Phleger's performance art for the benefit of the Black audience in Wright's church, mocking what he believed Hillary assumed as her due:  an easy slide into the Oval Office braked by the appearance of Duh Wun.  The Blacks would gotten all the socialism they could stomach with Hillary as with Obama -- and imposed with more skill ala Alinsky, I figger -- but they wanted their Dusky God.  Now, they're choking on him.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: rickl on September 19, 2011, 06:24:44 PM
http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results (http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results)

That has got to be the weirdest damn poll I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 19, 2011, 06:43:33 PM
http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results (http://2012dreamticket.com/index.php/results)

That has got to be the weirdest damn poll I've ever seen.


I would like to have a little back ground on the participants. Might be fun, some of those people desperately need people!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 19, 2011, 06:49:19 PM
Chicago Editorial Writer Suggests Obama Step Down After First Term

Published September 19, 2011

Quote
"President Obama gestures as he speaks at Fort Hayes Arts and Academic High School in Columbus, Ohio, Sept. 13.

President Obama's hometown newspaper has some startling advice for the commander-in-chief -- quit while you're behind.

Citing the president's record-low approval ratings and unease in the Democratic base, a Chicago Tribune editorial writer recommended over the weekend that Obama need not feel obligated to run for a second term.

Steve Chapman said that with Obama facing the prospect of a double-dip recession and, if he wins reelection, a gridlocked second term, it might be better to call it a presidency and let someone else -- maybe Hillary Clinton -- carry the Democratic mantle in the 2012 election.

"I checked the Constitution, and he is under no compulsion to run for re-election," Chapman wrote in the Tribune. "He can scrap the campaign, bag the fundraising calls and never watch another Republican debate as long as he's willing to vacate the premises by Jan. 20, 2013. That might be the sensible thing to do."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/19/chicago-editorial-writer-suggests-obama-step-down-after-first-term/#ixzz1YRdc3btp (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/19/chicago-editorial-writer-suggests-obama-step-down-after-first-term/#ixzz1YRdc3btp)





I agree but, Obama will rue the day. The Liberals will turn on him, and just ask Sarah Palin, and George W Bush, when they turn, it is real ugly! ::speechless:: ::evilbat::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on September 19, 2011, 07:15:04 PM
I had Lou Dobbs on while driving home tonight and he flat out said the this president has lost control of his message and the country and is a one term-er there is no hope for him.The speech(i didn't hear)was the same old garbage and not even in a new wrapper.Class warefare at it's worst.

It seems that I've been feeling better of late about his prospects in the unemployed future.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 19, 2011, 10:20:28 PM
I heard that speech this morning on the FNC via XM radio in my Suburban. I thought at the time that it was yet another heaping helping of warmed over O'Bama crap. It aired just before Limbaugh and when he came on he slammed it immediately for its profligate lying.

The fact is that the spell has been broken and he can't get away with flapping his jaw and having people swoon. It just doesn't work anymore. It sounds tired. Old and busted, as they say. Plus, he just isn't very smart and it's becoming easier for people to realize it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2011, 11:13:04 PM
"Broke; busted.  Disgusted.

'Ey, just can't be trusted ....."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: jpatrickham on September 20, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
I heard that speech this morning on the FNC via XM radio in my Suburban. I thought at the time that it was yet another heaping helping of warmed over OBama crap. It aired just before Limbaugh and when he came on he slammed it immediately for its profligate lying.

The fact is that the spell has been broken and he can't get away with flapping his jaw and having people swoon. It just doesn't work anymore. It sounds tired. Old and busted, as they say. Plus, he just isn't very smart and it's becoming easier for people to realize it.


Pavlov's Dog, in the flesh!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
President Golfsalot is still raising bucket loads of money from the usual corporate suckers and deeply entrenched special interests.

But...in a sign that the magic is most definitely over, he is not pulling in the small contributions from individuals in the quantities and amounts that he did the last go round...

Quote
The Obama campaign, which has prided itself on robust engagement of its grassroots supporters, appears to have stumbled in an effort meant to enlist at least 20,000 small donors by the end of September.

A campaign website set up to track the grassroots fundraising competition reported just 11,518 donations through 12:47 p.m. on Sept. 30 — a surprising result given the intensive focus on the program by Obama’s campaign team.

Oops. (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/obama-grassroots-challenge-fails-to-meet-goal/)

I guess it's time for another big speech to remind all those morons about just how awesome Mr. Wondermous is.

Ready the teleprompter.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 02, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
President Golfsalot is still raising bucket loads of money from the usual corporate suckers and deeply entrenched special interests.

But...in a sign that the magic is most definitely over, he is not pulling in the small contributions from individuals in the quantities and amounts that he did the last go round...

Quote
The Obama campaign, which has prided itself on robust engagement of its grassroots supporters, appears to have stumbled in an effort meant to enlist at least 20,000 small donors by the end of September.

A campaign website set up to track the grassroots fundraising competition reported just 11,518 donations through 12:47 p.m. on Sept. 30 — a surprising result given the intensive focus on the program by Obama’s campaign team.

Oops. (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/obama-grassroots-challenge-fails-to-meet-goal/)

I guess it's time for another big speech to remind all those morons about just how awesome Mr. Wondermous is.

Ready the teleprompter.


The unemployment check only stretches so far......
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2011, 06:09:19 PM
...The unemployment check only stretches so far......

But they keep telling us that unemployment checks are the best way to grow the economy.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2011, 06:10:24 PM
I thought that was food stamps. It all becomes so confusing after a while.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2011, 08:37:44 AM
...and they were sooo proud of those small contributors.  Last time around it seemed they used that as playgound proof BO was better.  hehehehe LOVE IT
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 12, 2011, 08:03:50 AM
Headline photo at Drudge this morning.

This one is a MUST see for anyone who has any doubt at all that this clod can be beaten.

LINK (http://drudgereport.com/flashoo.htm)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 08:21:02 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/LOL/ha-ha.jpg)

Yeah.

Too bad the Rulling Class is insisting we commit suicide though...give Obama & ObamaBots a chance they should not even have...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/punchself.gif)

 ::)

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 12, 2011, 10:40:31 AM
Headline photo at Drudge this morning.

This one is a MUST see for anyone who has any doubt at all that this clod can be beaten.

LINK (http://drudgereport.com/flashoo.htm)

 He must've been crying all the way home after that.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: BMG on November 23, 2011, 09:06:17 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/8907884/Michael-Bloomberg-fuels-presidential-talk-with-attack-on-Barack-Obama.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/8907884/Michael-Bloomberg-fuels-presidential-talk-with-attack-on-Barack-Obama.html)

Quote
Michael Bloomberg has launched an attack on Barack Obama for an absence of leadership as Washington failed to hammer out a deficit deal, renewing suggestions he could mount an independent bid for the White House.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 23, 2011, 10:13:46 AM
Ohh, please!!!  That useless sack of hot air can stay in NYC, we don't need is pandering ass, we got Dem's for that!

 ::mooning::   ::mooning::   ::mooning::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 23, 2011, 02:47:51 PM
from Re: Culture Watch: Black Trash Edition
« Reply #163 on: Today at 07:11:52 AM »



I like her, I liked her a lot more before she stepped
in it at the debate and then continued.  I'll like her
again when she gets back to her game (then she
can give them hell in the manner she is skilled).

In an interview tonight, she wouldn't admit it but
in so many words she is counting on a big score
in Iowa
.  If it happens it's a new game, at least
for a while, if not she will go back to MN and do
her job.  A job she does quite well.



That was her game plan from day one.

I hope she can get back to Founding principles and the Tea Party message, leave the rest of the crap alone!

Whatever happens happens, but first and foremost people have to be who they are, not who they think people want them to be.

[blockquote]
Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/politics/secret-romney-meeting/index.html) Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) — Representatives for leading social conservative groups in Iowa held a secret meeting Monday as part of an effort with one main goal: find and support a Republican presidential candidate who can stop Mitt Romney in Iowa.

The idea: avoid splintering the conservative vote in the state by rallying around one GOP rival who could win Iowa’s Jan. 3 caucus and then challenge Romney in New Hampshire and the other early voting states.
 [/blockquote]

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 24, 2011, 10:50:40 AM
Anything that sticks it to Mittens is all good in my book!   ::thumbsup::
Title: I Think O'Bongo Is Going To Lose Big
Post by: trapeze on July 23, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Time to revive this thread. Putting up a temporary new name for it to once again put my money where my mouth is prediction-wise.

Yeah, I'm going on the record one more time that O'Bongo is going to lose and he is going to lose big. It's going to be an anti-O'Bongo landslide. Not a pro-Romney landslide. This is going to be one of the biggest referendums in US history. Nothing like it since Carter. Chicago political tactics aren't going to be enough. It's steam roller time, baby.

The sh*t is hitting the fan for President Downgrade. Donations are down. Venues are not selling out...not even close and sometimes the clod is playing to half empty stadiums. He is spending more money than he is bringing in.

And now there's this. (http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy)

Quote
Two-thirds of likely voters say the weak economy is Washington’s fault, and more blame President Obama than anybody else, according to a new poll for The Hill.

Ed Morrisey analysis here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/23/new-poll-shows-obama-getting-the-most-blame-for-the-bad-economy/) A sample:

Quote
The numbers are bad for Obama almost across the board.  Overwhelming numbers of both men (65/26) and women (67/26) believe the current economic malaise is the result of bad policy rather than an unavoidable consequence of the 2008 crash.  Not a single demographic thinks otherwise, not even self-described liberals (46/39).  Even without any other data, an incumbent President would face daunting odds in re-election with these numbers, since most voters assign blame or credit for economic to the White House.

But the numbers just get worse.  Despite Obama’s insistence over the last few months on blaming the economy he “inherited” — or perhaps because of his attempts to shift blame — Bush now gets the least amount of blame for the status quo, with only 18%.  Both men and women put Bush last on the list, and both put Obama highest on the list.  That’s true in every single age demographic, including the key youngest-voters group, which splits blame 32/19 between Obama and Bush.  Only among blacks (19/53), Democrats (14/35), and self-described liberals (7/36) does Bush get more blame.  Every income demographic assigns more blame to Obama than Bush.

Poll data details (http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2012/07_july/hill-poll-7-23-2012.pdf).

I can't wait to see how Nate Silver* spins this. It's 1000 likely voters and the poll was taken on July 9th. Things are worse today than then. It was only a week ago that Silver was still spinning an O'Bongo victory as 66% likely. Silver had better figure out a way to extract himself from this tar baby pretty quick or his days as a wunderkind polling prognosticator are over.

Could things be worse for the president's re-election chances? Yeah, I guess. He could be the center of a child molestation scandal at a major university. Other than that, though, it's hard to see how things could be worse. And that's because at the end of the day he is who he is and he isn't going to change appreciably before the voters go to the polls in November. He isn't Clinton. He isn't even Carter. He's worse.

He is a Stuttering Clusterf**k of a Miserable Failure. SCOAMF 2012. Everything he has done via campaign strategy has blown up. Everything. Even dogs. How do you screw up dogs? Oh yeah, you get tagged for having eaten them.

This poll underscores that reality becoming firmly entrenched in the minds of the voters. All of them.

This campaign is circling the drain and it isn't even August yet.

In my lifetime that is unprecedented. Heck, has this ever happened before? I can't think of a president who is more screwed over than this one.

I haven't felt this confident in the results of a presidential election since Nixon in 1968 and 1972 or Reagan in 1980 and 1984. And, yeah, I was a child in '68 but that was the first presidential election I can remember and I do remember thinking that Nixon was going to win. I didn't know dick about the politics but I was sure he was going to win. Probably from listening to my parents talk and stuff like that...they say that the "Scholastic Reader" poll that is done with school kids is pretty darned accurate because kids listen to what their parents say about elections and who they are going to vote for. Those elections were all landslides and this one is going to be like them...I'm just getting that vibe.

This thing is Romney's to lose. He can coast to victory. He can win with the prevent defense.

And we have an opportunity here. This can be such a teachable moment. O'Bongo and his buddies on Capitol Hill have implemented the whole stinking leftist agenda. They have done just about everything in the leftist wish book and they can even claim that it was all done under the guidance of the "smartest people in the room" with the smartest president ever. Smart, smart, smart, smart. Genius time, baby.

Green energy? Check.
Deficit spending gone wild? Check.
Smart power? Check.
Health care? Check.
Wealth redistribution? Check.
Federal regulationpalooza? Check.
Executive orders run amuck? Check.
Golfing? Check.

You name the liberal fantasy and they have indulged it. On steroids. Okay, they didn't get gun control done (yet) but they have been busy bees.

And it's all for these kind of poll numbers. Worst ever. They are even bailing on their own convention. Can anyone remember when that has ever happened before? Me neither.

Teachable moment, though. You will forever after be able to point to that one miserable point in history and say that this is what happens when liberalism is given a blank check.

So, I have no doubt that this administration is going down in flames. The only thing that I am not certain of is how much the O'Bongo campaign death spiral will affect the House and especially the Senate races. You can never tell about those. The House is not going to change hands, Pelosi magical thinking to the contrary. The Senate? Maybe it will flip. I hope it does. The stage is at least properly set with more Democrats having to defend Senate seats this year than last. It could turn out to be a perfect storm of sorts when combined with the president's horrible numbers.

We will see.

But I think this is going to be an election for the record books.

*Silver put out a column yesterday. (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/do-presidential-polls-break-toward-challengers/) It's long, detailed and confusing in that he talks out of both sides of his mouth about what the polling "really means" at this point in the race. He is not mentioning this poll which came out a day later, of course. I wonder if he will write about it or ignore it. Silver is an ultra lefty who pretends to be a brainiac scientific genius when it comes to poll interpretation.
Title: Re: I Think O'Bongo Is Going To Lose Big
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 23, 2012, 11:06:26 AM
Time to revive this thread. Putting up a temporary new name for it to once again put my money where my mouth is prediction-wise.

Yeah, I'm going on the record one more time that O'Bongo is going to lose and he is going to lose big. It's going to be an anti-O'Bongo landslide. Not a pro-Romney landslide. This is going to be one of the biggest referendums in US history. Nothing like it since Carter. Chicago political tactics aren't going to be enough. It's steam roller time, baby.

The sh*t is hitting the fan for President Downgrade. Donations are down. Venues are not selling out...not even close and sometimes the clod is playing to half empty stadiums. He is spending more money than he is bringing in.

And now there's this. (http://thehill.com/polls/239377-the-hill-poll-majority-of-voters-blame-president-for-bad-economy)

Quote
Two-thirds of likely voters say the weak economy is Washington’s fault, and more blame President Obama than anybody else, according to a new poll for The Hill.

Ed Morrisey analysis here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/23/new-poll-shows-obama-getting-the-most-blame-for-the-bad-economy/) A sample:

Quote
The numbers are bad for Obama almost across the board.  Overwhelming numbers of both men (65/26) and women (67/26) believe the current economic malaise is the result of bad policy rather than an unavoidable consequence of the 2008 crash.  Not a single demographic thinks otherwise, not even self-described liberals (46/39).  Even without any other data, an incumbent President would face daunting odds in re-election with these numbers, since most voters assign blame or credit for economic to the White House.

But the numbers just get worse.  Despite Obama’s insistence over the last few months on blaming the economy he “inherited” — or perhaps because of his attempts to shift blame — Bush now gets the least amount of blame for the status quo, with only 18%.  Both men and women put Bush last on the list, and both put Obama highest on the list.  That’s true in every single age demographic, including the key youngest-voters group, which splits blame 32/19 between Obama and Bush.  Only among blacks (19/53), Democrats (14/35), and self-described liberals (7/36) does Bush get more blame.  Every income demographic assigns more blame to Obama than Bush.

Poll data details (http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2012/07_july/hill-poll-7-23-2012.pdf).

I can't wait to see how Nate Silver spins this. It's 1000 likely voters and the poll was taken on July 9th. Things are worse today than then. It was only a week ago that Silver was still spinning an O'Bongo victory as 66% likely. Silver had better figure out a way to extract himself from this tar baby pretty quick or his days as a wunderkind polling prognosticator are over.

Could things be worse for the president's re-election chances? Yeah, I guess. He could be the center of a child molestation scandal at a major university. Other than that, though, it's hard to see how things could be worse. And that's because at the end of the day he is who he is and he isn't going to change appreciably before the voters go to the polls in November. He isn't Clinton. He isn't even Carter. He's worse.

He is a Stuttering Clusterf**k of a Miserable Failure. SCOAMF 2012. Everything he has done via campaign strategy has blown up. Everything. Even dogs. How do you screw up dogs? Oh yeah, you get tagged for having eaten them.

This poll underscores that reality becoming firmly entrenched in the minds of the voters. All of them.

This campaign is circling the drain and it isn't even August yet.

In my lifetime that is unprecedented. Heck, has this ever happened before? I can't think of a president who is more screwed over than this one.

I haven't felt this confident in the results of a presidential election since Nixon in 1968 and 1972 or Reagan in 1980 and 1984. And, yeah, I was a child in '68 but that was the first presidential election I can remember and I do remember thinking that Nixon was going to win. I didn't know dick about the politics but I was sure he was going to win. Probably from listening to my parents talk and stuff like that...they say that the "Scholastic Reader" poll that is done with school kids is pretty darned accurate because kids listen to what their parents say about elections and who they are going to vote for. Those elections were all landslides and this one is going to be like them...I'm just getting that vibe.

This thing is Romney's to lose. He can coast to victory. He can win with the prevent defense.

And we have an opportunity here. This can be such a teachable moment. O'Bongo and his buddies on Capitol Hill have implemented the whole stinking leftist agenda. They have done just about everything in the leftist wish book and they can even claim that it was all done under the guidance of the "smartest people in the room" with the smartest president ever. Smart, smart, smart, smart. Genius time, baby.

Green energy? Check.
Deficit spending gone wild? Check.
Smart power? Check.
Health care? Check.
Wealth redistribution? Check.
Golfing? Check.

You name the liberal fantasy and they have indulged it. On steroids. Okay, they didn't get gun control done (yet) but they have been busy bees.

And it's all for these kind of poll numbers. Worst ever. They are even bailing on their own convention. Can anyone remember when that has ever happened before? Me neither.

Teachable moment, though. You will forever after be able to point to that one miserable point in history and say that this is what happens when liberalism is given a blank check.

So, I have no doubt that this administration is going down in flames. They only thing that I am not certain of is how much the O'Bongo campaign death spiral will affect the House and especially the Senate races. You can never tell about those. The House is not going to change hands, Pelosi magical thinking to the contrary. The Senate? Maybe it will flip. I hope it does. The stage is at least properly set with more Democrats having to defend Senate seats this year than last. It could turn out to be a perfect storm of sorts when combined with the president's horrible numbers.

We will see.

But I think this is going to be an election for the record books.

The only questions are, will Romney win by more or less states
than Reagan and which states are they.

If Sir Golfsalot wins we will know why and should respond accordingly
with a sternly worded letter.
                                        ::hysterical::   

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 23, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
Yes,  I agree, Obama will loose big in an election.  That would be the Circus part of the bread and Circuses.

This guy is a Alex Jones conspiracy nut,  but if the first convoy in the Video is what he says it is, that is a large movement of material overseas with an intent to stay a while.

Troop movement content analysis April - July 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=708NDR3Wyf0#ws)

Could be "replacements"  for what is there already, or a new offensive.  Could be "just in case" or it could be they planning to get this party started. Obama hates America. He Hates White people.  He hates freedom. Like every liberal he thinks Utopia will follow once they have forced everyone to live according to their values and beliefs. I certainly do not put i past the Fast and Furious head honcho to create a crisis which allows him to avoid, delay or cancel the election. I would like to think Americans would react accordingly, and that such a plan has no chance of succeeding,  but Borat is dumb enough and arrogant enough to try. The massive ammo purchases, the arming of local police with military hardware and drones, the suspicion-less checkpoints and stops, the military training operations in civilian areas, and other general probing activity combined with the long line of Obama Executive Orders blatantly denying us the protection of laws,  combined with positive assertions of power to seize property, organize work gangs, and assassinate or incarcerate  Americans without trial "during an emergency", leads us to only one logical conclusion.

Yeah, I know I sound like I am wearing a Tin Foil hat and I have been up all night listening to Coast to Coast, but all of the evidence seems to point to a plan to subjugate.  Mittens may even be part of it.  Or not.  I don't believe this is organized or run by the Illuminati - but I do believe that there are a number of people in thi world who want to see the Founder's experiment fail - and work towards that goal in the same uncoordinated fashion that markets work to allocate resources.  They want want this tower knocked down, and each of them takes the chance when they see it. Obama has got the biggest chance of all.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 23, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
It's not really just paranoia if they are actually out to get you, and we know for sure they are out to get us for many reasons and from many quarters here and abroad!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 23, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
Meanwhile, Gallup reports (http://www.gallup.com/poll/155918/Obama-Job-Approval-Slightly-14th-Quarter.aspx) that the dingus is on the rebound via favorability. Um...sure.

Quote
Barack Obama averaged 46.8% job approval during his 14th quarter in office, marking a slight improvement from quarter 13. His quarterly average approval rating has improved at least slightly in each of the last three quarters after dipping to a low 41.0% in the 11th quarter.

Please note that this survey is based on adults rather than likely or even registered voters. Please also note that at 46.8% approval he is, by definition, in the toilet. Bottom line: based on where he is now and his last three upward movements in favorability he will be above 50% just in time for the next president's second state of the union address. Or maybe a little later than that...hard to say.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 23, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
This story (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78833.html) does not speak to a confident Democrat party. It speaks to despair.

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Democrats say they’ve tried just about everything to get their colleagues to open their wallets. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has told members that unless they pay their dues in full, they won’t get to partake in the committee’s Democratic National Convention package, complete with access to much sought-after hotel rooms and parties. And in early June, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) tried to shame her members into giving, distributing notes to each of them with a request for cash and asking them if they are part of “the team.”

The push hasn’t had much success. As of June 30, 64 Democrats — around one-third of the entire caucus — hadn’t paid anything to the DCCC, according to a party document provided to POLITICO. Another 109 members had paid only a portion of what they owe in dues, which are calculated based on seniority and committee assignments.

In June, GOP members flooded the National Republican Congressional Committee with nearly $6.4 million. The DCCC secured just $1.8 million from Democratic lawmakers.

One of those recently new and exceedingly rare situations where the Politico finds itself having to write the truth because it's the day off or something for several of their staff who just make sh*t up.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on July 23, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Some of the heavy pieces of equipment were scrapers and loaders which are used generally in mining operations or to build large airport type facilities . The tires are steel radial mining service tires , probably for the scrapers and loaders . The tires are rated for hours of service . The tires shown are probably 65/45-45s which are rated for around 10,000 hours of service . As an aside wholesale price on those tires would come in at about $25,000 per . Federal government contract price might put them around $20,000 ea. They are probably Michelin or Bridgestone .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 23, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Every Obama Speech ever in one paragraph (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/309792/obama-america-unplugged-and-distilled-peter-kirsanow)

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If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen because you’ve been a little lazy over the last couple of decades and you’ve lost your ambition, your imagination and your willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge, causing you to become bitter and cling to guns and religion and antipathy toward people who aren’t like you, and to act stupidly, just like a typical white person or our troops who are just air-raiding villages and killing civilians. Frankly, that’s why I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism, and that’s why it’s necessary for me to fundamentally transform America and spread the wealth around — just as soon as I get more flexibility in a second term.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 23, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
Fritzworth (openblogger) at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331258) agrees with me regarding the outcome of the election...

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I'm doubling down now. I believe that things are shaping up for this to be an even uglier election for the Dems than 2010 was in terms of (a) GOP/conservative enthusiasm, (b) Dem discouragement, and (c) a significant break in independent voting towards the GOP candidates.

As a consequence, I believe:

Romney will win big (as per my original post (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/329763.php)).
The GOP will not only hold onto the House, but they may actually add a seat or two.
The GOP will take the Senate.
The 2010 trend towards GOP control of statehouses and state legislatures will continue.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on July 23, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Fritzworth (openblogger) at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331258) agrees with me regarding the outcome of the election...

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I'm doubling down now. I believe that things are shaping up for this to be an even uglier election for the Dems than 2010 was in terms of (a) GOP/conservative enthusiasm, (b) Dem discouragement, and (c) a significant break in independent voting towards the GOP candidates.

As a consequence, I believe:

Romney will win big (as per my original post (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/329763.php)).
The GOP will not only hold onto the House, but they may actually add a seat or two.
The GOP will take the Senate.
The 2010 trend towards GOP control of statehouses and state legislatures will continue.



And then the pubbies will blow the opportunity just like they did that last time they held the trifecta.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on July 23, 2012, 08:33:43 PM
Fritzworth (openblogger) at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331258) agrees with me regarding the outcome of the election...

Quote
I'm doubling down now. I believe that things are shaping up for this to be an even uglier election for the Dems than 2010 was in terms of (a) GOP/conservative enthusiasm, (b) Dem discouragement, and (c) a significant break in independent voting towards the GOP candidates.

As a consequence, I believe:

Romney will win big (as per my original post (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/329763.php)).
The GOP will not only hold onto the House, but they may actually add a seat or two.
The GOP will take the Senate.
The 2010 trend towards GOP control of statehouses and state legislatures will continue.



And then the pubbies will blow the opportunity just like they did that last time they held the trifecta.

No, they won't.  Last time, we went to rest because we lay reliance on them to do what was needed.  This time, we remain vigilant and active.  We get the day after election to huzzah; the day after that, we're on them like White on Rice.  We march our asses to DC if we have to, the minute they hint at wavering.  No honeymoon, no 100 first days; one day, one, and then it's on.  It's all we've got and it's going to be a hard btch to manage, but it's this or shooting.  And even so, it may come to shooting.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 23, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
I agree Pan. The GOP will gravitate towards disappointment, but there will be no blind acceptance of disregard for a conservative agenda, or pretending that big government programs or government growth are "Republican" values.

There is much to overcome from the Bush years. I don't expect that very many conservatives are looking to repeat the Bush/Lott/Frist/Hastert years without raising holy hell.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 23, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
And the CON continues (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obama-wedding-ring-mystery-dates-to-harvard/)

Obviously even during his days at  Harvard Law Obama was a compulsive liar, doing whatever would generate attention and publicity for himself.
The man is nothing but a lousy ghetto con artist.  Probably the most successful one in history, but that just makes it all the worse.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on July 23, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
And the CON continues (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obama-wedding-ring-mystery-dates-to-harvard/)

Obviously even during his days at  Harvard Law Obama was a compulsive liar, doing whatever would generate attention and publicity for himself.
The man is nothing but a lousy ghetto con artist.  Probably the most successful one in history, but that just makes it all the worse.



Back in those days, had a guy who worked for my family who was gay, but wore a wedding ring to divert attention.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 23, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Fritzworth (openblogger) at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331258) agrees with me regarding the outcome of the election...

Quote
I'm doubling down now. I believe that things are shaping up for this to be an even uglier election for the Dems than 2010 was in terms of (a) GOP/conservative enthusiasm, (b) Dem discouragement, and (c) a significant break in independent voting towards the GOP candidates.

As a consequence, I believe:

Romney will win big (as per my original post (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/329763.php)).
The GOP will not only hold onto the House, but they may actually add a seat or two.
The GOP will take the Senate.
The 2010 trend towards GOP control of statehouses and state legislatures will continue.



And then the pubbies will blow the opportunity just like they did that last time they held the trifecta.

No, they won't.  Last time, we went to rest because we lay reliance on them to do what was needed.  This time, we remain vigilant and active.  We get the day after election to huzzah; the day after that, we're on them like White on Rice.  We march our asses to DC if we have to, the minute they hint at wavering.  No honeymoon, no 100 first days; one day, one, and then it's on.  It's all we've got and it's going to be a hard btch to manage, but it's this or shooting.  And even so, it may come to shooting.

It will be essential to broom the decrepit old fossils who currently form the "leadership" of the national GOP. They know that, and that is why they have little more use for us than the Left has. It's going to be essential that new blood members of Congress learn the lesson that going against the desires of the voters is far worse than going against the desires of the party leadership. They must be made to understand one overriding point: I (we) don't give a sh*t about the Republican Party. Caring about party before ideology is what fuels lectures about the need to get behind the likes of Mike Castle, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snow, and so on. Those days are over. Who's getting the swank committee assignments or who's getting snubbed by whom on the cocktail party circuit don't concern me in the least.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 23, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
 ::thumbsup::  

But we do need to be concerned with the committee assignments,  Bachmann
was in line for a chair and they bypassed her.  They are now in the process
of demonizing her to the public thus assuring her unpopularity.  Mark them.
Who is on those committees is important to us just as who leadership will be.

Oh, Mythch, John, hold this for me.  ::asskicking::

ETA: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/23/limbaugh-gop-establishment-pushing-to-take-bachmann-out-audio/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/23/limbaugh-gop-establishment-pushing-to-take-bachmann-out-audio/)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 24, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
I'll shock everyone I'm sure...

Even if Mitt wins I don't see a landslide, Mitt is still Mitt, and by that I mean rather bland and dispassionate and still being handled by Rovian agents.  Even if the House is retained and the Senate captured, we still have asshats for leaders and I have not seen one inkling that would indicate to me they "get it" this time or that business-as-usual is about to change.  Oh I have no doubts we'll hear plenty of the right kind of talk, but we've all heard that before and seen it pissed away.  Conservatives are dangerous animals to the Rovian's, RINO's & Moderates...pander to them in elections, throw tokens at them here and there afterward, but then go ahead and do what you want anyway because really, where else have these people to go?

Yes, where indeed.  Away sounds good, leaving you with your thumbs up your butts!

Another triumvirate will only buy time and postpone the inevitable, we know this, history can be a cruel taskmaster, and some people deserve the whip more than others, but, whatever.

It's in the hands of the Allmighty now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 24, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
It will be a landslide despite Romney...so real is the dislike of O'Bongo across the country and across all demographics.

This election will not be about electing Romney but about ridding ourselves of a menace.

After that it's up to us, all of us, to hold the feet to the fire, to demand real change in the right direction.

It may be as you say and go right back to business as usual and if that happens then you are right again and the country is finished.

But O'Bongo will be turned out of office with extreme prejudice. I can feel it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 24, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
I'm all for the extreme prejudice part!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 24, 2012, 12:59:14 PM
Extreme prejudice = electoral landslide
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 24, 2012, 01:17:02 PM

Extreme prejudice = electoral landslide
Yup.  Will he win more or less states than
Reagan and which State will that be?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 24, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
No way a Reagan landslide ever happens again for Republicans unless something earth-shattering happens to change the electorate or the GOP. There have been demographic and political shifts that have taken many states out of contention, for both parties.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 24, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
No way a Reagan landslide ever happens again for Republicans unless something earth-shattering happens to change the electorate or the GOP. There have been demographic and political shifts that have taken many states out of contention, for both parties.

  Yesterday on my way home I heard some numbers on how many dems went to repubs for this cycle and the dems have lost quite a few of the fathfull.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 24, 2012, 02:03:24 PM

That was my first thought.  My second thought was that
Reagan carried New York, Massachusetts, all the bluest
east coast and west coast.  Hey, I think Romney might
even carry Minnesota.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 24, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
We're on the verge of it being mathematically impossible for a Republican to win the presidency.  2012 will probably be the last such opportunity, and it will come down to no bigger than a 52-48 split.  Yes, even with things as awful as they are. We simply have a near-critical mass of voters who will vote for the Free sh*t Party no matter what.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 24, 2012, 02:08:57 PM

Does this mean, you know, that we don't have a consensus of opinion?
                                                                                              ::falldownshocked::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 24, 2012, 02:44:53 PM
I think you could just call it being accustomed to disappointment, on my part at least.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 24, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
I think you could just call it being accustomed to disappointment, on my part at least.

Always with the negative waves, Moriarty. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyh-JpWdGmQ#ws)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 24, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
This is my favorite drinking glass.  Yes I do own one.


(http://demotivators.despair.com/products/thepessimistsglass.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 24, 2012, 08:03:30 PM
I got to get me one of those glasses...

The GOP (aka Team BOHICA) screws me over every time.

But it should say "Realist" though, how many times do we have to get raped before we say pessimist is the wrong word? 

 ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 24, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
This is my favorite drinking glass.  Yes I do own one.


(http://demotivators.despair.com/products/thepessimistsglass.jpg)


    ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on July 24, 2012, 08:18:23 PM
This is my favorite drinking glass.  Yes I do own one.


(http://demotivators.despair.com/products/thepessimistsglass.jpg)

I ought to own one; it's the way I think, always have.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 25, 2012, 02:02:18 AM

Extreme prejudice = electoral landslide
Yup.  Will he win more or less states than
Reagan and which State will that be?

Less. But still I think this will be no Rove-engineered victory where one state makes the difference and the vote difference is razor thin. I think that Romney is going to beat him by several states.

O'Bongo is a menace and a dumbass. One of the many, many things that make him unelectable this time around is that he thinks that everyone else is a dumbass. Allow me to illustrate this point with a current event:

Exhibit A

Obama: If you've been successful you didn't get there on your own. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=192oEC5TX_Q#)

Exhibit B

Obama: You know that speech where I said, "You didn't build that?" I didn't say that...you just thought I said that. No, really, I said something completely different and if you don't agree with me then you are dumber than Biden. And, hey, did I mention that my campaign website takes credit cards? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0yK5NakN2o#ws)

Clearly this is a pathetic attempt at damage control which comes off as an insult to the intelligence of anyone and everyone who heard and saw the original speech.

Team Dumbass is being forced to go this route because the polls and focus groups are indicating that the GOP is using O'Bongo's own words against him to devastating effect. Rasmussen reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/july_2012/72_believe_small_business_owners_primarily_responsible_for_their_own_success) that a staggering 72% of likely voters, the absolute best group to poll from, believe that the First Dumbass is wrong, dead wrong on this issue.

Quote
Most Americans believe entrepreneurs who start businesses do more to create jobs and economic growth than big businesses or government. They also believe overwhelmingly that small business owners work harder than other Americans and are primarily responsible for the success or failure of their businesses.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Likely U.S. Voters believe that people who start small businesses are primarily responsible for their success or failure.

Arch conservative (seriously, he is) Pat Sajak said this (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Defining-Moments) about President Zero's "you didn't build that" profundity:

Quote
It's as if President Obama climbed into a tank, put on his helmet, talked about how his foray into Cambodia was seared in his memory, looked at his watch, misspelled "potato" and pardoned Richard Nixon all in the same day. It's fun to imagine the hand-wringing that must be going on within the White House as staffers try to figure out how to undo the damage their boss has done with his anti-entrepenurial riff. Defining moments in politics are strange beasts. Sometimes they're only recognized in hindsight, while sometimes they throw the train off the tracks before a sentence has been completed. Sometimes their effect can be contained and minimized, while sometimes their effect on the political narrative mestastasizes. This one is very bad for the White House.

These defining moments take hold most devastatingly when they confirm what a large portion of the electorate already believes. Taken alone, it seems unfair that a single moment, an unguarded remark or a slip of the tongue can carry such weight. They're often dismissed as "gotcha" moments, but when voters are able to nod and say, "I knew it," these moments stick and do terrible damage. We have witnessed such a moment.

But the best part? O'Bongo still thinks he's a genius and the electorate is a bunch of morons and he will not make any attempt to hide that belief between now and election day. I predict that as things spiral further out of control he will become all the more resentful and visibly angry toward the voters. It's the narcissist way and O'Bongo knows no other.

Hey, I could be completely wrong and the voters could re-elect this idiot. I don't think so but it remains within the realm of possible outcomes. But here's what's cool for me: I feel incredibly confident that he's going to go down in flames and that allows me to relax and wait for election day virtually worry-free. I haven't had this sort of peace and tranquility about an election outcome since Reagan. It's liberating.

So, between now and the first Tuesday in November when the O'Bongo campaign finally augers into the ground at mach speed I will be treated to day after day and week after week of the ever increasing desperation and despair of Democrats and leftists.

Good times, good times.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2012, 06:57:29 AM
You could post that grotesquely retarded Obama commercial where he uses Mitt singing "America" too, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that is going over like a lead balloon.

Since I cannot discount the massive level of fraud, deceit and outright lies coming from Team Obungle, or the influx of foreign cash or the complete stupidity of a large segment of the population to support the SCoaMF (including all those new illegal voters streaming in!)...I cannot say I share your optimistic appraisal of the electoral result, but I am more than willing to be pleasantly surprised the morning of November 7th.

Assuming a Romney win is in the cards...all we have to see then is if Oba-Mao has any interest in surrendering power...and I shudder to think what nefarious actions he puts in place on the way out even if he leaves willingly!  Isn't a new President restricted by law from overturning previous Executive Orders for like 30 days or something?  And who knows what other poison pills he leaves behind, or what bombshells come to light once he does?!

Oh, and before we crown Mitt he still has to choose a running mate, and with the names floated thusfar I am not seeing a whole hell of a lot for conservatives to jump up and down in delirious delight over.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 25, 2012, 07:45:01 AM
You could post that grotesquely retarded Obama commercial where he uses Mitt singing "America" too, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that is going over like a lead balloon.

Since I cannot discount the massive level of fraud, deceit and outright lies coming from Team Obungle, or the influx of foreign cash or the complete stupidity of a large segment of the population to support the SCoaMF (including all those new illegal voters streaming in!)...I cannot say I share your optimistic appraisal of the electoral result, but I am more than willing to be pleasantly surprised the morning of November 7th.

Assuming a Romney win is in the cards...all we have to see then is if Oba-Mao has any interest in surrendering power...and I shudder to think what nefarious actions he puts in place on the way out even if he leaves willingly!  Isn't a new President restricted by law from overturning previous Executive Orders for like 30 days or something?  And who knows what other poison pills he leaves behind, or what bombshells come to light once he does?!

Oh, and before we crown Mitt he still has to choose a running mate, and with the names floated thusfar I am not seeing a whole hell of a lot for conservatives to jump up and down in delirious delight over.


  I don't think either side is going for a one punch knock out,it's the total effect of the drip drip drip that they're counting on.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on July 25, 2012, 08:52:44 AM

Extreme prejudice = electoral landslide
Yup.  Will he win more or less states than
Reagan and which State will that be?

Less. But still I think this will be no Rove-engineered victory where one state makes the difference and the vote difference is razor thin. I think that Romney is going to beat him by several states.

O'Bongo is a menace and a dumbass. One of the many, many things that make him unelectable this time around is that he thinks that everyone else is a dumbass. Allow me to illustrate this point with a current event:

Exhibit A

Obama: If you've been successful you didn't get there on your own. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=192oEC5TX_Q#)

Exhibit B

Obama: You know that speech where I said, "You didn't build that?" I didn't say that...you just thought I said that. No, really, I said something completely different and if you don't agree with me then you are dumber than Biden. And, hey, did I mention that my campaign website takes credit cards? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0yK5NakN2o#ws)

Clearly this is a pathetic attempt at damage control which comes off as an insult to the intelligence of anyone and everyone who heard and saw the original speech.

Team Dumbass is being forced to go this route because the polls and focus groups are indicating that the GOP is using O'Bongo's own words against him to devastating effect. Rasmussen reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/july_2012/72_believe_small_business_owners_primarily_responsible_for_their_own_success) that a staggering 72% of likely voters, the absolute best group to poll from, believe that the First Dumbass is wrong, dead wrong on this issue.

Quote
Most Americans believe entrepreneurs who start businesses do more to create jobs and economic growth than big businesses or government. They also believe overwhelmingly that small business owners work harder than other Americans and are primarily responsible for the success or failure of their businesses.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Likely U.S. Voters believe that people who start small businesses are primarily responsible for their success or failure.

Arch conservative (seriously, he is) Pat Sajak said this (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Defining-Moments) about President Zero's "you didn't build that" profundity:

Quote
It's as if President Obama climbed into a tank, put on his helmet, talked about how his foray into Cambodia was seared in his memory, looked at his watch, misspelled "potato" and pardoned Richard Nixon all in the same day. It's fun to imagine the hand-wringing that must be going on within the White House as staffers try to figure out how to undo the damage their boss has done with his anti-entrepenurial riff. Defining moments in politics are strange beasts. Sometimes they're only recognized in hindsight, while sometimes they throw the train off the tracks before a sentence has been completed. Sometimes their effect can be contained and minimized, while sometimes their effect on the political narrative mestastasizes. This one is very bad for the White House.

These defining moments take hold most devastatingly when they confirm what a large portion of the electorate already believes. Taken alone, it seems unfair that a single moment, an unguarded remark or a slip of the tongue can carry such weight. They're often dismissed as "gotcha" moments, but when voters are able to nod and say, "I knew it," these moments stick and do terrible damage. We have witnessed such a moment.

But the best part? O'Bongo still thinks he's a genius and the electorate is a bunch of morons and he will not make any attempt to hide that belief between now and election day. I predict that as things spiral further out of control he will become all the more resentful and visibly angry toward the voters. It's the narcissist way and O'Bongo knows no other.

Hey, I could be completely wrong and the voters could re-elect this idiot. I don't think so but it remains within the realm of possible outcomes. But here's what's cool for me: I feel incredibly confident that he's going to go down in flames and that allows me to relax and wait for election day virtually worry-free. I haven't had this sort of peace and tranquility about an election outcome since Reagan. It's liberating.

So, between now and the first Tuesday in November when the O'Bongo campaign finally augers into the ground at mach speed I will be treated to day after day and week after week of the ever increasing desperation and despair of Democrats and leftists.

Good times, good times.



Disclaimer:


I'm Barack obama and I didn't approve the first message.....but I do the second.


Don't be surprised if he isn't outfitted with a pair of glasses.....but they won't be glasses but mini telepromptors. Gotta keep this fool on message.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2012, 11:40:50 AM
 ::facepalm::

I could see the SCoaMF doing that too...

Time to look into electro-magnetic interference devices to throw that crap off kilter!

 ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 26, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
This ad is devastating...

Didn't Build That (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQUrko0Gqw#ws)

So is this one...

It Worked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0etEmiCL8M#ws)

I would say that if these ran for a few weeks it would drive O'Bongo down at least two points.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2012, 07:09:09 AM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 27, 2012, 08:15:09 AM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2012, 11:34:30 AM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!

OK, who gave this cat the catnip?   ::saywhat::   ::slapfight::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on July 27, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!

OK, who gave this cat the catnip?   ::saywhat::   ::slapfight::

Don't sweat it, Libertas; JF's been slapping libs around on another board and forgot to switch modes.   ;D

There are days when I think I've been born too late as well, but there's a good reason we're all here at this time.  (That's what I tell myself, anyway, but Beck's been saying just that for some time, too.)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 27, 2012, 01:21:25 PM
General George S. Patton:  "God, how I hate the twentieth century."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 27, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
...There are days when I think I've been born too late as well, but there's a good reason we're all here at this time.  (That's what I tell myself, anyway, but Beck's been saying just that for some time, too.)

I believe that in my core. I have no idea what the plan is, or whether it involves me, my family, or my country living or dying, but I know there's a reason for it all, and I know I'm part of it. We all are. There is an urgent passion placed upon our hearts.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 27, 2012, 01:44:45 PM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!

OK, who gave this cat the catnip?   ::saywhat::   ::slapfight::


 ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2012, 02:43:59 PM
General George S. Patton:  "God, how I hate the twentieth century."

Libertas:  "God, how I hate the twenty-first century."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2012, 02:44:53 PM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!

OK, who gave this cat the catnip?   ::saywhat::   ::slapfight::


 ::vafancoul::

 ::mooning::

 ::rockethrow::

 ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 27, 2012, 06:12:46 PM
That's sad, the America I once knew, they would have driven this fool down 20% without needing any ad!

I was born in the wrong age...

Why?!  Why?!

 ::falldownshocked::

 Your parents didn't meet till later on,DUH!

OK, who gave this cat the catnip?   ::saywhat::   ::slapfight::


 ::vafancoul::

 ::mooning::

 ::rockethrow::

 ;D


   ::curtsy4::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 28, 2012, 09:08:01 AM
 ::grouphug::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 30, 2012, 12:37:07 PM
Not a fan of rap at all and I've never heard of this guy...stumbled across it while looking around...it's kind of catchy, though.

The Bro' gotta go...can't take no mo.

Obama, "The Bro Gotta Go" by Nate Smoove feat. Real Americans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbwlnpY5B8#ws)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 30, 2012, 12:55:53 PM
Carville pleads for $3 donations:

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"I wish I had good news for you," Carville begins the pitch. "I want to tell you that President Obama has a second term in the bag. I want to tell you that the Koch Brothers are giving up their plot to buy the election."

But here’s where things really stand: We’re gonna have to go through hell and high-water to win this damn thing. It’s gonna be hard. Every big-oil billionaire and Republican Super PAC is throwing the kitchen sink at President Obama.

If we don’t fight back, it’ll be over long before November.

Oh yeah, and we have a crappy candidate who can't run on his record. That kinda sucks, too.

LINK (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/carville-we-re-gonna-have-go-through-hell-and-high-water-win-damn-thing_649095.html)

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flop sweat - n.

Nervous perspiration caused by a fear of failure before an audience.
"The applause had been deafening on her entrance, but after ten minutes the air was heavy with "flop sweat"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on July 30, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Carville pleads for $3 donations:

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"I wish I had good news for you," Carville begins the pitch. "I want to tell you that President Obama has a second term in the bag. I want to tell you that the Koch Brothers are giving up their plot to buy the election."

But here’s where things really stand: We’re gonna have to go through hell and high-water to win this damn thing. It’s gonna be hard. Every big-oil billionaire and Republican Super PAC is throwing the kitchen sink at President Obama.

If we don’t fight back, it’ll be over long before November.

Oh yeah, and we have a crappy candidate who can't run on his record. That kinda sucks, too.

LINK (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/carville-we-re-gonna-have-go-through-hell-and-high-water-win-damn-thing_649095.html)

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flop sweat - n.

Nervous perspiration caused by a fear of failure before an audience.
"The applause had been deafening on her entrance, but after ten minutes the air was heavy with "flop sweat"

Carville: I want to tell you obama has a great record to run on, but he don't. We're gonna have to go thru allah and high water to deceive the public to win this thing.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 30, 2012, 02:39:00 PM

Gonna cos alotta walkn round money tue.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 30, 2012, 02:59:40 PM
Oh, cool. I beat AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331461) by 2 hours in posting the Bro' Gotta Go video.

We are cutting edge here at IAL.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 30, 2012, 04:38:03 PM
Bro' Gotta Go, but his minions are still
out there working 24/7, that's what
his villains do.


Lessadolla Sowers Sowers a member of the Tunica County, Mississippi NAACP Executive Committee was convicted of voter fraud on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots. .


She received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts, but Circuit Court Judge Charles Webster permitted Sowers to serve those terms concurrently, according to the Tunica Times, the only media outlet to cover the sentencing.

This wasn’t Sowers’s first run-in with the law...

Read it all here (http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/mississippi-naacp-leader-sent-to-prison-for-10-counts-of-voter-fraud)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 30, 2012, 06:36:18 PM
"The Bro' gotta go...can't take no mo."

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on July 30, 2012, 08:04:16 PM
"The Bro' gotta go...can't take no mo."

 ::thumbsup::


 ::cool::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 30, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
From the opinion pages of the WP: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-insiders/post/get-ready-for-obamas-surrogates-to-play-the-mormon-card/2012/07/30/gJQAosQAKX_blog.html?wprss=rss_opinions)

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I look for the "September surprise" to be Mormonism on trial. At first the attacks will come from marginal surrogates, then the reliable half-cocked usual suspects among Democrats in Congress.  (Somebody cue Debbie Wasserman Schultz.)  Next, a member of the left's apologencia from the MSM will write a cerebral, somber piece saying the tenets of Mormonism are fair game, and then we will be off to Slimytown. Romney will be confronted with this or that Mormon practice or theological position, the late-night comics will weigh in and Obama will have a distraction that could linger while he hopes for a break or something external to change the trajectory of the race.

I predicted this eventuality four years ago when the Romney fan boys were saying how he was the perfect candidate. I pretty much described how it would go down and the above quoted paragraph isn't much different than my analysis (if I remember correctly). And the fact is, it's true that Mormonism is low hanging fruit for any non-Mormon opponent. My personal belief is that Mormonism is a cult. It is every bit as weird as the Jehovah's Witnesses and nearly as manipulative and controlling as scientology. Comparing Mormonism favorably to Christianity is, for Christians, heresy. I could go into the details but it's pointless for the purpose of this discussion. But then we nominated McDullard and the rest is history.

What I want to say is that four years ago I was totally convinced that a Mormon stood no chance against an opponent who held to a more traditional mainstream American religion. I still believe that to be true...for the last election. This election, though, I do not see it as a deal breaker.

And that's because we are saddled with something far worse than, what was for most of the voters four years ago, an unknown quantity. O'Bongo is a known quantity and he is a, well...he's a stuttering clusterf**k of a miserable failure. And everyone now knows this.

This is a referendum election. That is why virtually none of the negative personality attacks that O'Bongo has scripted have worked. They have been cranking them out for months now and nothing, I mean nothing has taken Romney out. With each new negative attack the voters, and especially the precious independents, have been able to discern the truth: O'Bongo has no game and this is all he can do. It looks pathetic because it is pathetic. The economy is in the toilet and most voters (even Democrats) are willing to acknowledge that the blame for it rests squarely with President Gutsy Call.

So my belief now is that any attack on Mormonism will suffer the same fate as the other attacks on Romney...they will go nowhere. Romney will not suffer in the polls and O'Bongo might begin to take a hit for using these ever more desperate tactics. I believe that we could have nominated anyone without a felony record who's religious beliefs were somewhere south of kook central and they could beat the Dingus.

And, if O'Bongo enlists surrogates who are seeking re-election to do this particular bit of nastiness there might even be enough of a backlash to take a few of them out. That would be a bit ironic. Democrats defeated over a lack of tolerance. Destroyed by the monster they created. Well, we can hope.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 31, 2012, 02:16:07 AM
I would think that any attack on Romney's religion could be met effectively with, "Do you REALLY want to go there, Mr. President? Because if you wanna talk about extremist religion on the fringe of American society, we can sure have that conversation."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on July 31, 2012, 05:52:34 AM
It should also be pointed out that slimeball Harry Reid is a Mormon too.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on July 31, 2012, 06:50:49 AM
I think Trap is largely correct, attacking Mitt's religion would be a landmine for the dem's, it could cause many more of them to run away from Obongo and it only opens up uncomfortable questions regarding what Barry is and who (like Rev. Wright) has been his inspiration.  But I have no doubt whatsoever that the Obama campaign will use nameless surrogates to do the hatchet job on Mitt and Mormons.  Personally I don't care.  I don't put much stock into the lost tribe stuff and the fanciful tale of Joseph Smith.  I may think the religion shares many hallmarks of a cult, but as cults go it is as benign as one can get.  Mormons are family oriented, honest and hard working.  Such cannot be said for much of the Left.  I don't have to like their religion but I have no fear of them going loony tune if given positions of responsibility.  Again, stark contrast to the Left on that score, obviously.  So Mitt has to ready himself for the proxy attack, and that means more than just calling Obama out on it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on July 31, 2012, 07:21:32 AM
I think Trap is largely correct, attacking Mitt's religion would be a landmine for the dem's, it could cause many more of them to run away from Obongo and it only opens up uncomfortable questions regarding what Barry is and who (like Rev. Wright) has been his inspiration.  But I have no doubt whatsoever that the Obama campaign will use nameless surrogates to do the hatchet job on Mitt and Mormons.  Personally I don't care.  I don't put much stock into the lost tribe stuff and the fanciful tale of Joseph Smith.  I may think the religion shares many hallmarks of a cult, but as cults go it is as benign as one can get.  Mormons are family oriented, honest and hard working.  Such cannot be said for much of the Left.  I don't have to like their religion but I have no fear of them going loony tune if given positions of responsibility.  Again, stark contrast to the Left on that score, obviously.  So Mitt has to ready himself for the proxy attack, and that means more than just calling Obama out on it.



I don't know....Harry Reid is as looney tune as one can get and has a position of responsibility. Those freakin Mormons can't control their own......(sarc)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on July 31, 2012, 10:39:16 AM
I don't think that Mormonism will be a significant issue this time around.  It may be for some but those people will be the type to want to pass judgment on anything so as not to have to vote or to excuse their vote for BO.  The attack on Christians and specifically the Catholic Church by this president has paved the way for a realization that BO hates religions possessing standards different from his viewpoint.  So I don't think many will be fooled by attacks on Romney's religion.


***
Mitt Romney Spokesman Tells Reporters 'Kiss My …' at Polish Holy Site (http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-spokesman-tells-reporters-kiss-polish-holy-110442318--abc-news-politics.html) I like how they point out it was at a Holy Site.  Not to debate that but the GOP does need a more kick-a** attitude.

***
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on July 31, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
Bill Clinton to be given honor of nominating Obongo at DNC convention (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/31/brit-hume-obamas-distress-call-to-bill-clinton/comment-page-1/#comments)

Fauxcohantas awarded prime speaking spot at DNC convention (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/31/great-news-author-of-you-didnt-build-that-gets-prime-time-slot-at-democratic-convention/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 31, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Since we're talking Mitt's Mormonism...

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Joseph Smith and the White Horse Prophecy (http://abitibibob.hubpages.com/hub/The-White-Horse-Prophecy-can-a-Mormon-president-save-the-United-States)

The White Horse Prophecy was supposedly made verbally by Joseph Smith in 1843. He is said to have stated that one day the United States Constitution would hang by a thread and that it would be saved by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - more specifically, a Mormon U.S. president. The Mormons are compared figuratively to the white horse in the Book of Revelation.

The accuracy of that statement has been debated for over a century, but it is apparent that many Mormon leaders considered it - and continue to consider it - to be authentic. Here are some examples:

[blockquote]When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the "Mormon" Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it. 2:182. (Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, p.360-61)

...Joseph Smith, the prophet, was inspired to affirm and ratify this truth, and he further predicted that the time would come, when the Constitution of our country would hang as it were by a thread, and that the Latter-day Saints, above all other people in the world, would come to the rescue of that great and glorious palladium of our liberty (Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, p. 403)[/blockquote]

...In 2010 Huffington Post commentator Dana Milbank reported on a "hidden message" sent to LDS members by TV personality, and Mormon, Glenn Beck. Beck said:

[blockquote]"We are at the place where the Constitution hangs in the balance," Beck told Bill O'Reilly on November 14, 2008, just after President Obama's election. "I feel the Constitution is hanging in the balance right now, hanging by a thread unless the good Americans wake up." (Mormon Prophecy Behind Glenn Beck's Message, October 5, 2010)[/blockquote]

...And the history (http://www.mrm.org/white-horse-prophecy) of the quote...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 31, 2012, 03:45:34 PM

The White Horse Prophecy was supposedly made verbally by Joseph Smith in 1843. He is said to have stated that one day the United States Constitution would hang by a thread and that it would be saved by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - more specifically, a Mormon U.S. president. The Mormons are compared figuratively to the white horse in the Book of Revelation.

If I had to lay bets on who the White Horse is, I would bet on Glenn Beck before Mittens.  Or Orson Scott Card.  Check out  The Folk on the Fringe"

 (http://www.amazon.com/Folk-Fringe-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/B0071UN5JK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343766739&sr=8-1&keywords=folk+on+the+fringe)
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Only a few nuclear weapons fell in America-the weapons that destroyed our nation were biological and, ultimately, cultural. But in the chaos, the famine, the plague, there exited a few pockets of order. The strongest of them was the state of Deseret, formed from the vestiges of Utah, Colorado, and Idaho. The climate has changed. The Great Salt Lake has filled up to prehistoric levels. But there, on the fringes, brave, hardworking pioneers are making the desert bloom again.A civilization cannot be reclaimed by powerful organizations, or even by great men alone. It must be renewed by individual men and women, one by one, working together to make a community, a nation, a new America.

I read somewhere (Hatrack?, afterword?) that this collection of short stories was an exploration of how he thought the Mormons would act if their Church and society survived the apocalypse - especially on the fringes, where all the rules are a "might fuzzier" as Shepard Book might say.  My Teotwaki place, coincidentally, might very well end up on the fringes of Deseret in the end.  I think, like all religious sects,  Mormonism has ideological tyranny as a possible result if it gains complete control of an area, but I would rather be denied alcohol and wear t-shirts than be forced under liberal rule. Perhaps belonging to a religion that teaches almost certifiable crazy stuff as gospel, ends up making  you a bit more tolerant of what others believe and think, as well as limiting how fanatical you can get about your faith. If Orson Scott Card's vision of Mormonism and ethics is anything like the real thing, then yeah, I would rather live in that world than in the hell hole the liberals have prepared.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 31, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
Rasmussen reports: (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)

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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

Why is O'Bongo desperate? These numbers are horrible.

These numbers are worse:

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Romney has a 20-point advantage among white voters.  Obama is supported by 91% of black voters and 57% of other minority voters.

Only 91% of the black vote? O'Bongo should be over 95 or 96 percent with the brothers. I have to believe that this number is where it is because of the gay marriage pandering to the fag demo. I believe that this number will not improve and might even get down into the high eighties. Consider: (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/31/black-pastors-group-launches-anti-obama-campaign-around-gay-marriage/)

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Washington (CNN) – A group of conservative black pastors are responding to President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage with what they say will be a national campaign aimed at rallying black Americans to rethink their overwhelming support of the President, though the group’s leader is offering few specifics about the effort.

The Rev. Williams Owens, who is president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors and the leader of the campaign, has highlighted opposition to same-sex marriage among African-Americans. He calls this campaign “an effort to save the family.”

“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”

This is not the universal black support of 2008. He has a record now and that record blows beets.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 31, 2012, 10:49:05 PM

Let's not forget the topic where we put down markers on
demographic percentage voting blocs for the candidates.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 31, 2012, 11:25:39 PM
Here's another article that seems to herald "the tipping point" phenom titled, "Has O'Bongo Peaked?" (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/07/31/has-obama-peaked)

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Democrats' biggest concern isn't the economy; it's whether Obama has already peaked. There are numerous reasons to believe it's true. If true, there are rapidly diminishing opportunities for the Administration to reverse it, and a growing list that could accelerate it.

Pick your poll: the presidential race is a toss-up. The latest Gallup tracking poll (taken 7/22-29, 3,050 registered voters, MOE +/- 2%) has the race tied at 46% apiece. It couldn't get any tighter.

The race has been so tight for so long, that it is not news -- until we factor in campaign spending. While the focus has been on Republicans' advantage with Super PACs, the overlooked story is how much Obama has outspent Romney on campaign advertising.

This is an interesting point. Here's some more...

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The National Journal's Hotline publication has been tabulating the race's television ad buys. According to their latest calculation of 2012 advertising in thirteen swing states (CO, FL, IA, MI, MN, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, and WI), Obama has outspent Romney almost three to one -- $120 million to $43 million thus far. The advantage is not only deep but broad: Obama has outspent Romney in all eleven states where either campaign has spent.

When adding in spending by outside groups, the Democrats' superiority seems to vanish. Democrats and their allies have spent $141 million, while Republicans and theirs have spent $203 million -- outspending Democrats in all states.

However the cash's quality is not equal. Democrats still hold a decided advantage for two reasons. First, Democrats have far greater control over their resources because a far greater proportion is under Obama's direct control -- not outside groups'. Second, under FEC rules, campaigns pay less for advertising airtime -- so Obama's campaign dollars go further than Republican Super PACs'.

I agree with this analysis except that it leaves out a key element...the free advertising and promotion that O'Bongo receives from the MFM. This is not insignificant. It's huge, in fact. And yet, it isn't enough to move the numbers in O'Bongo's favor. All of the ad buys, all of the money spent, all of the negative Romney ads, all of the sympathetic MFM coverage...and it isn't helping move those stupid ass voters into O'Bongo's column. He's a SCOAMF and everyone knows it.

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Presidential reelections are about the incumbent and elected incumbents overwhelmingly win -- only Carter and Bush I have lost in the last 76 years. Because of this, winning incumbents increase their popular vote share from their initial election.

Never in U.S, history has a winning incumbent, in his initial reelection attempt, seen his popular vote percentage fall. However despite his spending and incumbency advantages, if current polls are correct Obama is unlikely to come close to reaching his 52.5% of the 2008 popular vote.


No, I think not.

This and the other items that I have previously mentioned are why I have such confidence, such overwhelming peace about how this election is going to turn out.

I will emphasize one more time...Romney is in the right place at the right time. Anyone could beat the SCOAMF in 2012. Romney owes McDullard (and Huckaboob) a huge debt of gratitude for running such a dirty primary in 2008. If Romney had been the 2008 nominee he would have lost, too, and it is highly unlikely that he would get the nod again in this year's contest.

O'Bongo is facing a very serious case of emperor-has-no-clothes syndrome which is funny when you think about how the libs used to just love calling GWB an "empty suit." Good times, good times.

EDIT: There's quite a bit more at the link.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on July 31, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Here is what Gary Trudeau did to mock Bush...represent him as an asterisk in an otherwise empty suit, in this case an emperors garb:

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4872/ldb040916.jpg)

Irony defined.

I don't follow Doonesbury. Haven't since the pre-Reagan days. Trudeau got all David Letterman style bitter and unfunny. So I don't know if he represents O'Bongo as an empty suit but I'm guessing he doesn't.

That's okay, though. I'll have a laugh at his expense on election day.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 01, 2012, 01:23:57 AM
Okay, I just took one for the team. Curiosity got the better of me and I just read through four month's worth of Doonesbury archives. It was obnoxious and extremely unfunny. There were multiple hit jobs on Romney, Fox News and the recent move to prevent voter fraud was compared directly to Jim Crow laws. What utter banal crap. Zero negative coverage of O'Bongo. Not one little thing. I can't imagine even libs finding this amusing. It isn't even informative. It's pure propaganda.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 01, 2012, 01:31:48 AM
Okay, I just took one for the team. Curiosity got the better of me and I just read through four month's worth of Doonesbury archives. It was obnoxious and extremely unfunny. There were multiple hit jobs on Romney, Fox News and the recent move to prevent voter fraud was compared directly to Jim Crow laws. What utter banal crap. Zero negative coverage of O'Bongo. Not one little thing. I can't imagine even libs finding this amusing. It isn't even informative. It's pure propaganda.

Well, damn, man; stop doing that!  I'm betting you need a shower and a stiff drink now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2012, 07:27:57 AM
Still, Team Romney seems to be incapable of going in for the kill...there is so much opportunity to do so!  They could help bury Barry now, making every dollar he spends (he is now kicking in his own money!) thoughly worthless! 

How about an event, even a prime speaking slot for some of these pro-family values black pastors? 

Leaving weapons and ammo on the table untouched is a hallmark of latter day GOP nominees...

 ::)

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 01, 2012, 08:37:28 AM
I think there is a real opportunity coming up here for a GOP Super PAC and Romney spending strategy in the final 90 days. With O'Bongo running out of ideas and money they can put forth a television ad campaign that is mostly positive ads...say, 2/3 positive and 1/3 negative or 3/4 positive and 1/4 negative.

Plus, one of the big complaints about Team Romney has been that he hasn't articulated a plan. I don't know that this hasn't been intentional up to this point. As O'Bongo has been blowing his campaign funds trying unsuccessfully to define Romney (as I said earlier it didn't matter who we nominated) there has been a vacuum forming...a domestic agenda vacuum. Now that O'Bongo is running on advertising vapors it is probably the right time to start rolling out the agenda. O'Bongo and the Democrats will not be able to match the ads plus they have no agenda of their own that anyone wants.

By not putting out much of anything in the way of an agenda (other than "We aren't O'Bongo" which has done very well all by itself) Romney and the GOP have given O'Bongo little to shoot at. Now that they are close to empty on ammo is the time to start running the positive campaign.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2012, 08:40:32 AM
I would view it as positive if somebody grabbed Obongo by the scrotum and wrapped it around his head and kicked him in the ass, but that's just me!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 01, 2012, 09:00:06 AM
I would view it as positive if somebody grabbed Obongo by the scrotum and wrapped it around his head and kicked him in the ass, but that's just me!

He has to have one in order for that plan to succeed.

Here's some more O'Bongo campaign fundraising panic news (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/obama-supporters-barraged-with-pleas-for-cash/) from the NYTs  to warm your heart:

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Each plea for money from President Obama and his allies has become more urgent and desperate than the last.

His campaign’s chief operating officer said on Monday that “we’ve gotten our behinds handed to us.”

Vice President Joe Biden warned on the same day that Mr. Obama would lose if “the other side spends us into oblivion.”

Michele Obama worried aloud about waking up on election day “wondering if I could have done more.” And Al Gore, the former vice president, said victories by the “extremist fringe” would “spell disaster” for the country.

The answer, according to all of them? A donation of $3 (or more) by midnight on Tuesday. (The e-mails don’t say “Pretty please!” — yet.)

I can remember four years ago and I'm sure everyone else can, too. This is NOT the O'Bongo of 2008. Oh, sure, he's still the massively over self confident and smug narcissist that he has been since childhood but he doesn't have the big checking account to go with the attitude and it's beginning to take on a kind of clown theme.

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“My upcoming birthday next week could be the last one I celebrate as President of the United States, but that’s not up to me — it’s up to you,” Mr. Obama said to his supporters in an e-mail late last week.

Accompanying the e-mail was a link to donate in exchange for a chance to attend his “birthday get-together” in August.

This is pure desperation and there is no other way to look at it. I can guarantee you that O'Bongo resorts to mixing it up with a commoner (even for a few minutes) because he has to. He doesn't like it, it's distasteful and unpleasant for him. Ordinary people (voters) have been getting this vibe now for three plus years and it has contributed to his lower fundraising. I am convinced that the favorability ratings he has gotten in the polls are largely the result of the Bradley Effect. The real favorability rating is in the donations to his campaign. The money doesn't lie and it isn't coming in. Add his sh*tty policies on top of his sh*tty attitude toward America and it's populace and that's the reason he's broke.

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...in fact, Mr. Obama is facing a quandary his 2008 campaign team never even contemplated: a rival whose fund-raising operation appears better positioned to tap into both the deep pockets of wealthy donors and the economic frustrations of average Americans.

Seriously, who wants to send money to a losing effort?

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The appeals for donations occasionally recall the “Everything 80 percent off! Going out of Business” sales that try to entice customers into the store. And yet, Mr. Obama’s campaign team has clearly calculated that it is willing to risk leaving that kind of impression if it means raising more money.

One of the many e-mails sent by the Obama campaign to supporters on Monday had the subject line: Romney defeats Obama?

Be of good cheer, the end is near...the bro' gotta go.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 01, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
As Libertas mentioned above:

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President Obama has given $5,000 to his own reelection campaign, an official confirms to POLITICO. (http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-donates-to-himself-130613.html)

In an email to supporters this morning, Obama said that he had given to his own reelection campaign for the first time as a symbolic gesture.

"On its own, what I gave won't be enough to surmount the unprecedented fundraising we've seen on the other side, both from our opponent's campaign and from the outside groups and special interests supporting him," Obama wrote. "But we have always believed that there's nothing we can't do when we all pitch in. That includes me."

I suppose this is following the theme of one of his latest campaign ads that babbles something along the lines of "We're all in this together." Which is utter nonsense. We all don't throw elaborate celebrity packed parties at the WH. We all don't go golfing almost every week of the year at exotic locations around the world.

He compounds this tone deaf message by writing a "symbolic" check for $5000? They guy is a multi millionaire and that's all he can pretend to spend? Why not toss in $3 like he is asking the commoners to do? That would be just as ridiculous looking.

Daily clown behavior. An ominous sign.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 01, 2012, 09:23:45 AM
Jeff Greenfield (http://news.yahoo.com/add-it-up--the-prediction-models-look-dismal-for-obama--can-he-still-win-.html) isn't buying the hype anymore. He realizes that the tipping point has been reached and passed. He realizes that it's over.

All but the most lunatic leftists in the media (the entire on air staff of MSNBC) are going to come to this point pretty soon. They have to because to keep spouting this nonsense that the election is going to be close, that O'Bongo is favored to win will seriously mess with their professional reputations. In other words, they love them some O'Bongo and Marxist/socialist policies but that love will only go so far.

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...I offer, not a prediction, but a flat pre-election assessment: If President Barack Obama is to win, he is going to have to overcome a set of numbers that no incumbent President, or incumbent party, has ever managed to surmount.

The jobless rate has been stuck at just above 8 per cent for months; you have to go back to 1936 to find a President re-elected with a higher unemployment rate. And in Franklin D. Roosevelt’s case, it was a far better number than he had inherited. Plus, growth was booming.

Today, real growth is at 1.5 per cent. In the economic forecasting models, this portends what even the liberal arts majors have been predicting: a very close election.

The core question for many voters—“Are you generally satisfied with the country’s direction, or has the U.S. gone off on the wrong track”—gets a 32.7-60.7 negative answer, according to the RealClearPolitics average. Generally, an incumbent party needs to have at least a 35% positive response to this question to win the election, says the Gallup Organization.

The consumer confidence level is now about 60 per cent. No incumbent party has ever kept the White House with a number anything like that. (It was slightly higher, at 65 per cent, in 1980 when Carter lost in a landslide.)

Here are the words of someone who wants to maintain some shred of credibility in the news media biz:

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Forget who is running, what the latest gaffe of the day is, who is outraged and what latest insult to what group has been perpetrated by the candidate or his staff. Ignore whom you’re rooting for, and just look at those numbers with the ice-cold heart of a bean counter.

What you would conclude, I think, is that there is no way an incumbent President could get re-elected given these current numbers.

Be of good cheer, the end is near...the bro' gotta go.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
“My upcoming birthday next week could be the last one I celebrate as President of the United States, but that’s not up to me — it’s up to you,” Mr. Obama said to his supporters in an e-mail late last week.

Now that is fracking hilarious!  Poor me, I can't get there from here without your $3!  And if I can't it's YOUR fault!

What a salesman!  Who could resist such a fantastic pitch?!

 ::hysterical::

Accompanying the e-mail was a link to donate in exchange for a chance to attend his “birthday get-together” in August.

Yes, a chance!  Like having a street in front of your business kind of lucky chance?  No, not even that good!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 01, 2012, 11:46:36 AM
Rumor only:

New obama campaign fund raisers:

1) Chume it up wit da Prez: $3.00 ( columbian: $5.00) 
2) Beer summit: $3.00 ( you bring the keg 2.50)
3) gay day: I'll show you my roots if you show me yours ( wet: 3.50, dry 5.50)
4) The dreams of my father tour, Kenya: Bowl of rice
5) Ethnic day: Will accept food stamps
6) Run for the border: ( our border) 25 pesos
7) Help save the planet: carbon credit
8) Black friday: .01
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 01, 2012, 12:26:20 PM
Rumor only:

New obama campaign fund raisers:

1) Chume it up wit da Prez: $3.00 ( columbian: $5.00) 
2) Beer summit: $3.00 ( you bring the keg 2.50)
3) gay day: I'll show you my roots if you show me yours ( wet: 3.50, dry 5.50)
4) The dreams of my father tour, Kenya: Bowl of rice
5) Ethnic day: Will accept food stamps
6) Run for the border: ( our border) 25 pesos
7) Help save the planet: carbon credit
8) Black friday: .01

Now that there is daggum funny m'friend.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Obama is limited in his thinking, if he really wanted to rake in the bucks he'd set up a "punch _________ in the face day" for $___/pop and announce the punching bags will be Hildabeast, Erica the Holder and Valarie "Puppetmaster" Jarrett!

Rotten schmuck would be rolling in cash!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 01, 2012, 03:44:27 PM
Obama is limited in his thinking, if he really wanted to rake in the bucks he'd set up a "punch _________ in the face day" for $___/pop and announce the punching bags will be Hildabeast, Erica the Holder and Valarie "Puppetmaster" Jarrett!

Rotten schmuck would be rolling in cash!


Or possibly auction off his girl jeans to the gay crowd.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 01, 2012, 07:58:11 PM
Romney ought to set up a fund to donate $3 to him so BO can celebrate his birthday next year not in the White House.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 01, 2012, 08:11:37 PM
Okay, I just took one for the team. Curiosity got the better of me and I just read through four month's worth of Doonesbury archives. It was obnoxious and extremely unfunny. There were multiple hit jobs on Romney, Fox News and the recent move to prevent voter fraud was compared directly to Jim Crow laws. What utter banal crap. Zero negative coverage of O'Bongo. Not one little thing. I can't imagine even libs finding this amusing. It isn't even informative. It's pure propaganda.

You had it precisely correct the first time - he's bitter and he plays to a bitter, cynical audience. I used to read it (never sought it out) for the Freudenshade that treaudeax puked up. I sure hope that he doesn't hurt himself when his ØbaMessiah falls down and goes boom.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 01, 2012, 08:14:55 PM
Speaking of Mitt, I hope he had the foresight to eat at chic fil a today. Pretty strong statement made by the people. The only idea I can think, to make it more successful, is if conservatives were there to register the people to vote.

And in the new conservative tone, about 3 weeks before the election, we need An owner of a business, with a strong opinion on gay marriage, petition Chicago to open in their fine city.......give rham another opportunity to show his solidarity towards the gay crowd. Let rham show his gay pride. Allow rham to call someone else a homophobe.

Not sure the establishment has the gonads....but the Tea Party does...... C'mon guy and gals, think outside the chic.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 01, 2012, 08:30:52 PM
Re: Øbozo "giving" himself $5k - I bet if you look closely you'll see that he loaned himself the dough, not gave.

Rush was remarking about it today - something by way of comparison to what The First Baboon routinely spends on wardrobe. I wonder what circus tents go for these days?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 01, 2012, 09:41:31 PM

She's a 19th century gal,
all the others would envy,
she doesn't need that bustle.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 01, 2012, 11:19:32 PM
I wonder what circus tents go for these days?

$7000 according to Rush.

I doubt I've spent that for my clothes for my whole life.  My wedding dress cost $100.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2012, 07:07:28 AM
This is awesome!  Sure wish I could see more of this all over the nation!

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ray-gaster-620x348.jpg)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/business-owners-response-to-you-didnt-build-that-kiss-my-a/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/business-owners-response-to-you-didnt-build-that-kiss-my-a/)

 ::clapping::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 06, 2012, 09:04:21 PM
More encouraging piffle from Gallup. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/156446/2008-Obama-Voters-McCain-Voters-Switching-Sides.aspx) It appears that more of O'Bongo's 2008 voters are switching to vote for Romney than McDullard's 2008 voters are switching to vote for O'Bongo.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 06, 2012, 09:17:36 PM
Oh, and then there's this: (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/06/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-obama-idUSBRE87516120120806)

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(Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Monday that mass killings like the shooting rampage at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin were occurring with "too much regularity" and should prompt soul searching by all Americans, but he stopped short of calling for new gun-control laws.

That's a heck of an insult to "all Americans" when you think about it. O'Bongo is essentially comparing "all Americans" to two psycho killers. This would be considered a major league gaffe if it had been committed by anyone else. But, as usual, President Downgrade gets a pass.

Me? I'd be calling on all of the people who refuse to take advantage of the states' CC laws to do some "soul searching" about maybe taking some responsibility for defending themselves in a dangerous world.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 06, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
Here's an interesting little tidbit from The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama’s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/) today (linked at Drudge) comparing/contrasting Reid's call for Romney to release tax returns to a call for O'Bongo to release his records from Columbia...

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Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A)   He rarely ever attended class.

B)   His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C)   He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D)   He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

More...

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If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia has ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108881386721289.html) in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.

International Man of Mystery.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Read that first article earlier, both are good...and yes, we need to shove the hypocrisy down Harry Reid's face and down the face of every two-faced lying dirtbag democrat...Ok I repeated myself there at the end, but point made, nail 'em!  Time to show the double-standard exists only if we let it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 07, 2012, 09:49:28 AM
I've always thought the lack of information about BO's school attendance and records in general would have more sticking power than the birth certificate.

Someone should call all the professors and Deans of those schools from that time period.  I would think some would still have their records from their classes plus I would think many of them would remember a kid like BO ( black kid from Indonesia on scholarship).  Of course, some would be dead but those still around would remember.  I have a friend who's been director of a graduate school for 20 years and she knows all the students and their backgrounds. Profs and administrators talk about students and a student like BO would have been talked about.

Assuming that most profs at those two schools are liberal it's interesting that one hasn't come forward and said he taught BO and he was a great student!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 07, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
Contrast with the First Wookiee: we've seen evidence of her scholarship at Princeton, and we know it's absolutely inferior for a supposedly elite university.  Perhaps that's one of the fears, that seeing his academic records would show us Michelle is the real scholar of this pair.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 07, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
Contrast with the First Wookiee: we've seen evidence of her scholarship at Princeton, and we know it's absolutely inferior for a supposedly elite university.  Perhaps that's one of the fears, that seeing his academic records would show us Michelle is the real scholar of this pair.

I'm convinced that he attended with the aid of foreign exchange scholarships.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on August 07, 2012, 11:18:13 AM
Quote
I've always thought the lack of information about BO's school attendance and records in general would have more sticking power than the birth certificate.

But there is nothing in the Constitution about having to have a college degree or even a particular GPA to be President, but it does have a qualification of citizenship.  Even if obama showed his school records, good or bad, that would not disqualify his presidency.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2012, 11:29:51 AM
Contrast with the First Wookiee: we've seen evidence of her scholarship at Princeton, and we know it's absolutely inferior for a supposedly elite university.  Perhaps that's one of the fears, that seeing his academic records would show us Michelle is the real scholar of this pair.

Dumb and dumber.   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2012, 11:33:13 AM
Quote
I've always thought the lack of information about BO's school attendance and records in general would have more sticking power than the birth certificate.

But there is nothing in the Constitution about having to have a college degree or even a particular GPA to be President, but it does have a qualification of citizenship.  Even if obama showed his school records, good or bad, that would not disqualify his presidency.

No, but it would be fun getting him to pony them up in light of his hypocritical call to see all of Mitt's tax returns, it would be fun to giggle at his inferior intellect after all these years of MFM gushing over his brilliance, and if he attended on a foreign exchange scholarship it means he is caught red-handed as being a lying bastard because either he lied about being foreign or lied about being a citizen.  Either way, We the People we denied a proper vetting of this asshole and I for one would like to see one late rather than never!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 07, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
Quote
I've always thought the lack of information about BO's school attendance and records in general would have more sticking power than the birth certificate.

But there is nothing in the Constitution about having to have a college degree or even a particular GPA to be President, but it does have a qualification of citizenship.  Even if obama showed his school records, good or bad, that would not disqualify his presidency.

That would depend on exactly what is in those records.  If he was admitted to Columbia as a foreign exchange student -- as an Indonesian citizen -- I'd say that is a disqualifier.

The author of The Blaze piece, Wayne Allyn Root, revealed on Beck's radio show that a Breitbart reporter told him he was holding material proof of Obama's Indonesian citizenship this morning.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2012, 02:10:50 PM
"The author of The Blaze piece, Wayne Allyn Root, revealed on Beck's radio show that a Breitbart reporter told him he was holding material proof of Obama's Indonesian citizenship this morning."

We deserve the truth, no matter what happens afterward...

 ::oldman::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 07, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
From Root's lips to God Almighty's ears; let it be so. Let it be done.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 07, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
Suppose it is proven that he is a foreign national.  What then?  I can already picture the GOP folding like a lawn chair.  "Oh sure, the law may say this or that, but come on, he's the elected President. We can't seriously go after him on something like that."

That's the real reason the GOP establishment have been completely hostile to people raising real questions. They're afraid of it being proven, because the onus would then be on them to respond in some way, and they know they don't have the balls to. Far safer to just sweep the whole question under the rug.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 07, 2012, 06:50:37 PM

If it's proved beyond a shadow of the MSM the Pubbies and the
Demmies will have no option, no choice in the matter; talk about
rage, it will be bi-partisan.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 07, 2012, 06:53:56 PM
I'm not convinced there would be rage from anyone who isn't already enraged. I figure we'd just hear another variation of the "But that thing is, like, 200 years old!" argument. The ethnic factions would threaten chaos in the streets, and the GOP would be terrified.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2012, 06:58:44 AM
I'm not convinced there would be rage from anyone who isn't already enraged. I figure we'd just hear another variation of the "But that thing is, like, 200 years old!" argument. The ethnic factions would threaten chaos in the streets, and the GOP would be terrified.

And enter the double-standard...expecting bipartisan action toward Stymie is unreasonable given this is the party that likes to attack Pubbies for anything done since birth...

But you are right about Pubbies wetting themselves over the thought of rioting ethnic factions...

Spines of jello...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2012, 07:10:04 AM
Oh, more stuck on stupid, er himself, umm, you know!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-blames-state-and-local-governments-congress-141-percent-black-unemployment_649505.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-blames-state-and-local-governments-congress-141-percent-black-unemployment_649505.html)

It's not me, it's everybody else...

Yeah, that's a winner, stick with that.

This guy is becoming a boorish self parody of himself with each passing second...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 08, 2012, 07:21:27 AM
Oh, more stuck on stupid, er himself, umm, you know!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-blames-state-and-local-governments-congress-141-percent-black-unemployment_649505.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-blames-state-and-local-governments-congress-141-percent-black-unemployment_649505.html)

It's not me, it's everybody else...

Yeah, that's a winner, stick with that.

This guy is becoming a boorish self parody of himself with each passing second...


I'm surprised obummer didn't blow a gasket because the question was broached.  Plus, can't the magazine tell he is pandering  to the blacks at an unprecented pace? it is close to the election.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 08, 2012, 10:00:04 AM
Yet this is a typical headline on Google News today:

Obama's lead over Romney grows despite voters' pessimism (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-pollbre8770sl-20120808,0,5915477.story)

Yeah, I know they like to stack the deck in polls, because the purpose of polling is not to sample public opinion but to shape public opinion. But, I am wary of discounting them either. That Obama is possibly ahead in polling, even with things as bad as they are, is the funeral dirge of this country.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 08, 2012, 11:39:21 AM


Obama's lead over Romney grows despite voters' pessimism (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-pollbre8770sl-20120808,0,5915477.story)



I don't believe it

Bo is not acting like a winner
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
His negative ad's, of which now there are plenty, are the only indication you need as to the comfort level of BO...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 08, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
His negative ad's, of which now there are plenty, are the only indication you need as to the comfort level of BO...

Though I try not to on occassion I have seen his face as he's campaigning...this is not a happy man
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 08, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
His negative ad's, of which now there are plenty, are the only indication you need as to the comfort level of BO...

Though I try not to on occassion I have seen his face as he's campaigning...this is not a happy man

Good!  I only hope having to jet around and golf on his own dime after January makes him absolutely, lividly miserable.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2012, 12:34:53 PM
The sour puss is on the other moosh now...

You hear Rush talking about how Romney blew it by answering the ridiculous "woman murderer" ad?  Mitt-"If she was in my state she'd have had insurance"...really, what an awesome come back!

/

 ::barf::

Barry has a RomneyCare = ObamaCare opening.  Think Barry will punt?

 ::)

Longing for a fighter, got a moderate, yah team, rah, rah, ohhh fvck it...

 :'(
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 08, 2012, 12:48:20 PM
The sour puss is on the other moosh now...

You hear Rush talking about how Romney blew it by answering the ridiculous "woman murderer" ad?  Mitt-"If she was in my state she'd have had insurance"...really, what an awesome come back!

/

 ::barf::

Barry has a RomneyCare = ObamaCare opening.  Think Barry will punt?

 ::)

Longing for a fighter, got a moderate, yah team, rah, rah, ohhh fvck it...

 :'(

The lying liars and the lies they tell. (http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/08/woman-in-anti-romney-superpac-death-ad-actually-had-insurance/)

Quote
A SuperPAC run by former Obama spokesman Bill Burton accused Mitt Romney of killing a woman because she lost insurance when her husband’s job was terminated.

CNN has blown this ad apart, finding that the woman continued to have health insurance through her own employer after her husband was terminated.

Too bad Romney didn't know and use that instead of the bullcrap he spouted.  "If she was in" his "state", she'd have had insurance alrighty, and would have had to wait to see one of the few docs that will still practice there.

Good grief and fer crissake.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 08, 2012, 01:16:52 PM
The sour puss is on the other moosh now...

You hear Rush talking about how Romney blew it by answering the ridiculous "woman murderer" ad?  Mitt-"If she was in my state she'd have had insurance"...really, what an awesome come back!

/

 ::barf::

Barry has a RomneyCare = ObamaCare opening.  Think Barry will punt?

 ::)

Longing for a fighter, got a moderate, yah team, rah, rah, ohhh fvck it...

 :'(


It was an awesome comeback......if you believe the state needs to be in healthcare. Sure, he will end obamacare, but his own plan will replace it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 08, 2012, 01:18:59 PM
The sour puss is on the other moosh now...

You hear Rush talking about how Romney blew it by answering the ridiculous "woman murderer" ad?  Mitt-"If she was in my state she'd have had insurance"...really, what an awesome come back!

/

 ::barf::

Barry has a RomneyCare = ObamaCare opening.  Think Barry will punt?

 ::)

Longing for a fighter, got a moderate, yah team, rah, rah, ohhh fvck it...

 :'(

The lying liars and the lies they tell. (http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/08/woman-in-anti-romney-superpac-death-ad-actually-had-insurance/)

Quote
A SuperPAC run by former Obama spokesman Bill Burton accused Mitt Romney of killing a woman because she lost insurance when her husband’s job was terminated.

CNN has blown this ad apart, finding that the woman continued to have health insurance through her own employer after her husband was terminated.

Too bad Romney didn't know and use that instead of the bullcrap he spouted.  "If she was in" his "state", she'd have had insurance alrighty, and would have had to wait to see one of the few docs that will still practice there.

Good grief and fer crissake.



A little off subject...but CNN blew this story up? Could this be (gulp) CNN attempting to become relevant (aka profitable) under new leadership?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 08, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Yah, I know.  "CNN!!!??"

Who knows why; broken clock?

From a commenter:

"Cassandra Lite | August 7, 2012 at 11:30 pm

Surprised? The (female) reporter was surprised. Wolf Blitzer threw to her with a comment about how it seems “outrageous to blame Romney” for the death—and she said, “It does WHEN YOU DIG DEEPER.” Really, only when you dig deeper?

Yes, it’s lovely and all that she got her facts straight, but this reporter apparently would have believed that, had the dead woman not had insurance, Romney would have been responsible for her death. This is insanity. Regardless of whether the deceased did or didn’t have insurance, Romney didn’t give her the cancer."


Catch that? Wolf Blitzer!  The vid's at the link, Don.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 08, 2012, 02:28:34 PM
And none have asked "Ok then, what should Bain Capital have done instead?"  So, should they have kept an unprofitable mill running in order to provide make-work jobs for everyone, so that they could have medical insurance as a benefit of their make-work jobs?  I mean, effectively that is exactly what they are saying.

Their understanding of economics, and even simple cause and effect, is more than just ignorant. It's infantile. It's the attitude of a child who doesn't comprehend all that is required for their parents to provide the things they have, they just know "Mine! Mine! Mine"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 08, 2012, 02:44:05 PM
And none have asked "Ok then, what should Bain Capital have done instead?"  So, should they have kept an unprofitable mill running in order to provide make-work jobs for everyone, so that they could have medical insurance as a benefit of their make-work jobs?  I mean, effectively that is exactly what they are saying.

Their understanding of economics, and even simple cause and effect, is more than just ignorant. It's infantile. It's the attitude of a child who doesn't comprehend all that is required for their parents to provide the things they have, they just know "Mine! Mine! Mine"

Yes, it's infantile.  That's socialism/communism.  Stupid people bleating stupidity on a subject about which they know nothing -- running a business -- the same stupidity that sees a business as a job generator, first/last/always.  I have to wonder if, as kids, they said "I want to grow up and have a business so I can provide jobs" instead of "When I grow up, I want to make a million dollars".

In my never to be humble opinion, too many of them did not have that "Mine! Mine! Mine" slapped out of them as kids; their parent/s conceded to the "my room" and "my money" bull-onee, instead of setting them straight on who was providing the money for the room they claimed as theirs, and how any of them with access to "my money" had it because it wasn't confiscated "on account".

I know that sounds harsh to some, but it's a plain truth.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 08, 2012, 04:50:55 PM

In my never to be humble opinion, too many of them did not have that "Mine! Mine! Mine" slapped out of them as kids; their parent/s conceded to the "my room" and "my money" bull-onee, instead of setting them straight on who was providing the money for the room they claimed as theirs, and how any of them with access to "my money" had it because it wasn't confiscated "on account".

I know that sounds harsh to some, but it's a plain truth.

Well, if my kids read that they'd laugh and say that sounds like me. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2012, 07:21:56 AM
Stymie is above it all though, yeah, Team Obama is clean and articulate in their doubling down of distraction!  Don't look over there!  Look over here!  Mitt's welfare ad is a huge lie!  He's a liar, who cares about anything else, look at that liar!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-denies-knowledge-cancer-tale-told-may-195237581.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-denies-knowledge-cancer-tale-told-may-195237581.html)

Too many evil faces...not enough mud puddles...

 ::)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 09, 2012, 09:35:37 AM
As enraging as it is that they so blatantly lie and hurl misdirection mud, that's not what really sets me off.  What sets me off is that it apparently works.

Let's face it, the people of this country are intellectually, morally, and ethically incompetent. I guess living under the statist boot heel is what they deserve. I mean, they keep falling for Democrat demagoguery time and time again. I harbor a lot of deep resentment for the morons of this country and I hope they suffer horribly under the Leftism they want so badly.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2012, 11:19:36 AM
Oh, most definitely!  They know a large segment of our population are little better than domesticated animals looking to be led by the nose!  I'm always commenting on the latest evidence showing the moral and (especially) intellectual decline of the human gene pool...the evidence is overwhelming!  I agree there are millions of people fully deserving the enslavement, misery and death that is the ONLY promise of the statist vision...hard not to care about them...it's just the rest of us I am concerned about...then I just get volcanically pissed at the proponents and appeasers of this BS!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 09, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
As enraging as it is that they so blatantly lie and hurl misdirection mud, that's not what really sets me off.  What sets me off is that it apparently works.

Let's face it, the people of this country are intellectually, morally, and ethically incompetent. I guess living under the statist boot heel is what they deserve. I mean, they keep falling for Democrat demagoguery time and time again. I harbor a lot of deep resentment for the morons of this country and I hope they suffer horribly under the Leftism they want so badly.


Looking for a justification of thier beliefs....obama delivers another line of democratic demagog. Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on August 09, 2012, 12:01:59 PM

....obama delivers another line of democratic demagog.

Should read  "democratic demagag" .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 09, 2012, 12:07:23 PM

....obama delivers another line of democratic demagog.

Should read  "democratic demagag" .


My fingers were gagging as I typed.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on August 10, 2012, 04:09:40 AM
Oh, most definitely!  They know a large segment of our population are little better than domesticated animals looking to be led by the nose!  I'm always commenting on the latest evidence showing the moral and (especially) intellectual decline of the human gene pool...the evidence is overwhelming!  I agree there are millions of people fully deserving the enslavement, misery and death that is the ONLY promise of the statist vision...hard not to care about them...it's just the rest of us I am concerned about...then I just get volcanically pissed at the proponents and appeasers of this BS!

Agreed , Libertas . But I began wondering yesterday what should be said about broadcast and cable channels which agree to run ( for money of course ) this Soptic ad when they know full well that it's false and obviously so disgracefully low-lifed .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 10, 2012, 07:02:51 AM
Oh, most definitely!  They know a large segment of our population are little better than domesticated animals looking to be led by the nose!  I'm always commenting on the latest evidence showing the moral and (especially) intellectual decline of the human gene pool...the evidence is overwhelming!  I agree there are millions of people fully deserving the enslavement, misery and death that is the ONLY promise of the statist vision...hard not to care about them...it's just the rest of us I am concerned about...then I just get volcanically pissed at the proponents and appeasers of this BS!

Agreed , Libertas . But I began wondering yesterday what should be said about broadcast and cable channels which agree to run ( for money of course ) this Soptic ad when they know full well that it's false and obviously so disgracefully low-lifed .

Asking media whores to take a pass on easy money is like getting a hooker to give up a freebie...unless you're her pimp and threaten to rough her up a bit there is zero chance.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on August 10, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
Oh, most definitely!  They know a large segment of our population are little better than domesticated animals looking to be led by the nose!  I'm always commenting on the latest evidence showing the moral and (especially) intellectual decline of the human gene pool...the evidence is overwhelming!  I agree there are millions of people fully deserving the enslavement, misery and death that is the ONLY promise of the statist vision...hard not to care about them...it's just the rest of us I am concerned about...then I just get volcanically pissed at the proponents and appeasers of this BS!

Agreed , Libertas . But I began wondering yesterday what should be said about broadcast and cable channels which agree to run ( for money of course ) this Soptic ad when they know full well that it's false and obviously so disgracefully low-lifed .

Asking media whores to take a pass on easy money is like getting a hooker to give up a freebie...unless you're her pimp and threaten to rough her up a bit there is zero chance.

It's axiomatic that if ever there is a real curb on election spending the ones who will be screaming the loudest will be the media . That's where the bulk of the money goes . They love this sh*t !
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 10, 2012, 02:06:17 PM
A devastating counter punch...

American Crossroads: "Cancer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSYT53NMug#ws)

Gallup daily job approval (http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx) is now at 43%

Intrade (http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474) has the thug at 58% chance of being re-elected. If I was an Intrade player (I'm not) I would be short selling this puppy. I would guess that the price collapse (it's at $5.80 a share now) is imminent.

Oh, and have gas prices (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REFINERY_FIRE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-10-04-36-48) started going up where you live? I'm in CO and they bottomed about two weeks ago and have begun a rather quick march back up. Perfect timing for the conventions.

I really would like to see Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/aug-9-national-polls-shouldnt-panic-romney/) take a huge credibility hit for his forecasting skills. Last election this guy was touted as being the infallible oracle of the left and since then he has gotten a gig at the NYTs. He has forecast President Downgrade being re-elected with a 73% chance. I, of course, just don't see it that way. Here and now, today, I see O'Bongo's chances as 50% at best. He has states leaning left that I think are toss ups at this point. I guess we will know something soon...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 10, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
Quote
Oh, and have gas prices started going up where you live? I'm in CO and they bottomed about two weeks ago and have begun a rather quick march back up. Perfect timing for the conventions.

Yep. .15/gal in less than a week.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 10, 2012, 10:15:43 PM
This site (Hope n' Change Cartoons (http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.co.uk)) is most definitely worth a look. I think I'll be bookmarking it...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bqXmMKtWYUw/UCP2Vr3sJLI/AAAAAAAAF8Q/B0csfopxQYg/s640/MyPie.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 11, 2012, 02:19:39 AM
Quote
If indeed it’s Ryan, even the media may have to start focusing on the most serious issues — and that’s bad news for Obama.

That's from Ed Morrissey at HotAir and it's a very valid point.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2012, 09:33:54 AM
I made the comment on the Veep thread too that forcing the RINOs & AINOs to march to the tickets economic plans (the Ryan Plan being the centerpiece) could be interesting too.

All of the bugs are about to get smoked out.

Watch Team Hopium to go even more negative, you can bank on it.

Which brings us back to the same point we've been making all along...Mitt has to start grabbing Obama by the nose and kick him in the ass, no more defense, all offense or go home.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 11, 2012, 09:50:02 AM

Mitt, paint a gNewt face on him and go for it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 11, 2012, 12:17:23 PM

Mitt, paint a gNewt face on him and go for it.


I was thinking the same thing.....The debates would be so fun.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 11, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
This site (Hope n' Change Cartoons (http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.co.uk)) is most definitely worth a look. I think I'll be bookmarking it...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bqXmMKtWYUw/UCP2Vr3sJLI/AAAAAAAAF8Q/B0csfopxQYg/s640/MyPie.jpg)


Bookmarked....
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 11, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
funny,funny

my daughter and I had a good laugh
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 12, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
One of the things that I have seen in several places (I'm not listing or linking them because, well, because they are written by idiots) is that O'Bongo now has it made. Why, you ask?

Well the "theory" is that now that Ryan is on the ticket we have a "choice" election on our hands and that is exactly what O'Bongo has been pushing for...that he can only win a "choice" election.

Frankly, I am finding the thinking on this to be a bit one dimensional. The counter to the "choice" election is the "referendum" election. I do not see why the election can't be both a "choice" and a "referendum" type of election. I mean, why not? Why can't it be both? I think it will be both.

I think that it was always going to be a "referendum" election...can anyone point to anything that O'Bongo has done that he can run on? I guess he could run on the "I made the gutsy call that killed OBL" theme but that, although important, is pretty thin gruel to base an entire campaign on. O'Bongo and his minions know this, too and that's why they aren't using it. Most every other thing that this idiot has in his "accomplishment" column is an utter disaster.

So...referendum. Who in their right mind (obviously excludes the Democrat base) wants another four years of this crap? In a referendum election (think Carter in 1980) the voters are merely looking for anyone who can be perceived as reasonably competent to replace the current bumbling loser. I think we have that type of election right now and will continue to have it all the way into November.

But now, if you can believe the gleeful media, O'Bongo has gotten his wish and it's a "choice" election. I guess they think that they will be able to define Romney by way of Ryan as someone who is going to really screw up the country. This would be an excellent strategy if all things economy were just humming along. But, as everyone knows, they aren't. In fact, things are really screwed up and the public is no longer buying the argument that O'Bongo inherited it from GWB. All evidence to the contrary, most people aren't stupid enough to believe such utter tripe. This is O'Bongo's economy. He owns is. It's not hard to see regardless of how the media attempts to spin it.

People know two things instinctively...that O'Bongo is responsible for the current state of affairs and that he will say literally anything about his opponent in order to deny him votes. Therefore, I think that a lot of people (other than the brain dead base) aren't going to lend too much credence to anything coming out of the O'Bongo campaign.

Don't get me wrong...it's still a sales job for Romney and Ryan to put themselves and their vision in a very positive light. They have to close the deal and this is completely do-able. Then it's back to the "referendum" election: More misery versus something (anything) new that doesn't sound unreasonable.

I think we will know soon enough how this is going to play out, though. Give it two weeks...three tops...and we will know if the American public is truly stupid or not. Most people aren't going to vote for more punishment regardless of how it's packaged and propped up.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 12, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
One of the things that I have seen in several places (I'm not listing or linking them because, well, because they are written by idiots) is that O'Bongo now has it made. Why, you ask?

Well the "theory" is that now that Ryan is on the ticket we have a "choice" election on our hands and that is exactly what O'Bongo has been pushing for...that he can only win a "choice" election.

Frankly, I am finding the thinking on this to be a bit one dimensional. The counter to the "choice" election is the "referendum" election. I do not see why the election can't be both a "choice" and a "referendum" type of election. I mean, why not? Why can't it be both? I think it will be both.

I think that it was always going to be a "referendum" election...can anyone point to anything that O'Bongo has done that he can run on? I guess he could run on the "I made the gutsy call that killed OBL" theme but that, although important, is pretty thin gruel to base an entire campaign on. O'Bongo and his minions know this, too and that's why they aren't using it. Most every other thing that this idiot has in his "accomplishment" column is an utter disaster.

So...referendum. Who in their right mind (obviously excludes the Democrat base) wants another four years of this crap? In a referendum election (think Carter in 1980) the voters are merely looking for anyone who can be perceived as reasonably competent to replace the current bumbling loser. I think we have that type of election right now and will continue to have it all the way into November.

But now, if you can believe the gleeful media, O'Bongo has gotten his wish and it's a "choice" election. I guess they think that they will be able to define Romney by way of Ryan as someone who is going to really screw up the country. This would be an excellent strategy if all things economy were just humming along. But, as everyone knows, they aren't. In fact, things are really screwed up and the public is no longer buying the argument that O'Bongo inherited it from GWB. All evidence to the contrary, most people aren't stupid enough to believe such utter tripe. This is O'Bongo's economy. He owns is. It's not hard to see regardless of how the media attempts to spin it.

People know two things instinctively...that O'Bongo is responsible for the current state of affairs and that he will say literally anything about his opponent in order to deny him votes. Therefore, I think that a lot of people (other than the brain dead base) aren't going to lend too much credence to anything coming out of the O'Bongo campaign.

Don't get me wrong...it's still a sales job for Romney and Ryan to put themselves and their vision in a very positive light. They have to close the deal and this is completely do-able. Then it's back to the "referendum" election: More misery versus something (anything) new that doesn't sound unreasonable.

I think we will know soon enough how this is going to play out, though. Give it two weeks...three tops...and we will know if the American public is truly stupid or not. Most people aren't going to vote for more punishment regardless of how it's packaged and propped up.

They want to make this an election of "choice", cool.
They are going to lose and when they do we will say
the nation has spoken and we as a people have made
the choice of life.  I like it.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Damn_Lucky on August 12, 2012, 09:00:01 PM
 ::praying::
One of the things that I have seen in several places (I'm not listing or linking them because, well, because they are written by idiots) is that O'Bongo now has it made. Why, you ask?

Well the "theory" is that now that Ryan is on the ticket we have a "choice" election on our hands and that is exactly what O'Bongo has been pushing for...that he can only win a "choice" election.

Frankly, I am finding the thinking on this to be a bit one dimensional. The counter to the "choice" election is the "referendum" election. I do not see why the election can't be both a "choice" and a "referendum" type of election. I mean, why not? Why can't it be both? I think it will be both.

I think that it was always going to be a "referendum" election...can anyone point to anything that O'Bongo has done that he can run on? I guess he could run on the "I made the gutsy call that killed OBL" theme but that, although important, is pretty thin gruel to base an entire campaign on. O'Bongo and his minions know this, too and that's why they aren't using it. Most every other thing that this idiot has in his "accomplishment" column is an utter disaster.

So...referendum. Who in their right mind (obviously excludes the Democrat base) wants another four years of this crap? In a referendum election (think Carter in 1980) the voters are merely looking for anyone who can be perceived as reasonably competent to replace the current bumbling loser. I think we have that type of election right now and will continue to have it all the way into November.

But now, if you can believe the gleeful media, O'Bongo has gotten his wish and it's a "choice" election. I guess they think that they will be able to define Romney by way of Ryan as someone who is going to really screw up the country. This would be an excellent strategy if all things economy were just humming along. But, as everyone knows, they aren't. In fact, things are really screwed up and the public is no longer buying the argument that O'Bongo inherited it from GWB. All evidence to the contrary, most people aren't stupid enough to believe such utter tripe. This is O'Bongo's economy. He owns is. It's not hard to see regardless of how the media attempts to spin it.

People know two things instinctively...that O'Bongo is responsible for the current state of affairs and that he will say literally anything about his opponent in order to deny him votes. Therefore, I think that a lot of people (other than the brain dead base) aren't going to lend too much credence to anything coming out of the O'Bongo campaign.

Don't get me wrong...it's still a sales job for Romney and Ryan to put themselves and their vision in a very positive light. They have to close the deal and this is completely do-able. Then it's back to the "referendum" election: More misery versus something (anything) new that doesn't sound unreasonable.

I think we will know soon enough how this is going to play out, though. Give it two weeks...three tops...and we will know if the American public is truly stupid or not. Most people aren't going to vote for more punishment regardless of how it's packaged and propped up.

They want to make this an election of "choice", cool.
They are going to lose and when they do we will say
the nation has spoken and we as a people have made
the choice of life.  I like it.



 ::praying:: ::USA::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 12, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
Romney smacks a heckler around a bit and then kicks O'Bongo in the teeth for good measure.

With a smile. (http://www.therightscoop.com/awesome-romney-responds-to-heckler-in-wisconsin-then-tells-obama-to-get-his-campaign-out-of-the-gutter/)

I will post it in youtube format when available.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 12, 2012, 10:38:51 PM

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2012, 07:08:32 AM
But the hate keeps coming, and from the Hater-In Chief himself!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-man-obama-welcomes-paul-ryan-into-race-as-campaign-launches-twitter-tirade/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-man-obama-welcomes-paul-ryan-into-race-as-campaign-launches-twitter-tirade/)

You cannot kick this trash in the teeth hard enough or often enough, if you think you've done enough, think again, you have to attack 24/7/365!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on August 13, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
I'd like to be "The Invisible Man" with an invisible wiffel ball bat and smack Stymie in the head every time he opens his stupid mouth . That's my fantasy . I'm also thinking of some invisible Ex-Lax !  ::whoohoo:: ::evilbat:: ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 13, 2012, 09:27:20 AM

Quote
You cannot kick this trash in the teeth hard enough or often enough, if you think you've done enough, think again, you have to attack 24/7/365!
Figuratively speaking, of course.

Godfather-Garbage Can Lid Beating (not for kids, contains violence) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTit869LfWA#)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 13, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
Trap, you're right on there with your post.

BO's mistake was thinking that getting to the White House the first time was enough. The man has spent his entire life building a facade that would get him into the White House.  He had no plan after that except to shove every new policy down our throats and assume that what worked to get him into the White House would work to retain him.  He had one goal and that was to be president.  He is not the brilliant thinker--the mastermind--that he or his pals think he is. If he was he would have seen what was coming and prepared his administration and campaign for it.  But because he and his pals don't understand the United States beyond their negative, hate-filled rhetoric they gave no credence to opposing views. They don't see opposing views as thoughtful, deeply held, grounded beliefs based on truth and natural rights.  They see those beliefs as superficial and selfish as their own.    If you think you're enemy is stupid you don't prepare the same and if you're as lazy as BO is then you mistakedly believe you're right in that view.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2012, 11:33:37 AM

Quote
You cannot kick this trash in the teeth hard enough or often enough, if you think you've done enough, think again, you have to attack 24/7/365!
Figuratively speaking, of course.

Godfather-Garbage Can Lid Beating (not for kids, contains violence) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTit869LfWA#)




 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 13, 2012, 12:00:19 PM

Quote
You cannot kick this trash in the teeth hard enough or often enough, if you think you've done enough, think again, you have to attack 24/7/365!
Figuratively speaking, of course.

Godfather-Garbage Can Lid Beating (not for kids, contains violence) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTit869LfWA#)




 ::thumbsup::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XjApHj0OgI

NSFW
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 13, 2012, 04:41:46 PM

Quote
You cannot kick this trash in the teeth hard enough or often enough, if you think you've done enough, think again, you have to attack 24/7/365!
Figuratively speaking, of course.

Godfather-Garbage Can Lid Beating (not for kids, contains violence) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTit869LfWA#)





   I own a pair of those same shoes. And I'm not willing to go with the figurative at all.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 13, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
LINK (http://www.theonion.com/articles/admit-it-i-scare-the-everloving-sh*t-out-of-you-do,29160/)

Quote
Admit It, I Scare The Ever-Loving sh*t Out Of You, Don't I?
BY PAUL RYAN
CANDIDATE FOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AUGUST 13, 2012


When Mitt Romney selected me as his running mate, I knew the Democratic attack dogs would come out in full force. They would say I’m a right-wing ideologue. They would say my views on entitlement programs are far too radical. They would say putting me on the ticket immediately kills Mitt Romney’s chances of becoming president because I’m a liability. But if we’re being honest with each other—if we’re able to put aside the talking points for a few minutes and say what we’re all actually thinking and feeling—I believe we can acknowledge the real truth here.

I’m young, I’m handsome, I’m smart, and I’m articulate. And that scares the ever-loving sh*t out of you. You can pretend like you have this thing in the bag, but you know good goddamn well that this race just got real interesting, real fast.

It’s okay to admit it. You’re frightened to death of me. It might actually be healthy for you to face your fears now rather than later, when Mitt and I are leading by a few points in the polls and it looks like this thing might end badly for you. Face it: I’m not some catastrophe waiting to happen, like a Sarah Palin or a Dan Quayle. On the contrary, you have the exact opposite fear. I’m a solid, competent, some might say exceptional, politician.

Did you get nervous when you read that last sentence? Is it because you know in your heart of hearts that it’s 100 percent true? Is it because, even if you strongly disagree with my beliefs on Medicare, Social Security, women’s rights, and marriage equality, you know my talent as a speaker and my well-thought-out approach to these issues—no matter how radical and convoluted you find them—might just be enough to win over independent voters?

Do you get chills just thinking about how strong my appeal actually is?

I have another question for you: How scared are you that I can convince people I’m right? Because I’m good at it. No, I’m really good at it. You see, I know how to turn up the charm and charisma without putting people off. Then I back up what I’m saying with arguments that, when they come out of my mouth, sound completely accurate and well-reasoned. And I do it with such passion that people automatically recognize me as a man with deep convictions he will stand up for, no matter what.

The American people love that sh*t. They love it.

Passion, intellect, and a magnetic personality. Pretty damn intimidating combo, if I say so myself. You want to talk about polish? Man, I’ve got polish for miles. Oh, and by the way, I’ll go ahead and say this next thing because, if we’re being honest, why the hell not, right? In case you haven’t noticed, I’m white. Hoo, brother, am I white.

Yup, you should be scared sh*tless of me, because guess who isn’t? The people of Wisconsin. They love me. Republicans and Democrats there love me. Hell, I get Democrats to vote for me even if my policies make zero sense when it comes to their livelihoods. Do you know why? Because they like me. They like my story. Young, good-looking kid who pulled himself up by his bootstraps to make something of himself. Christ, I'm a storybook candidate. I balance out this ticket so well it’s almost too perfect. The people of Ohio are going to think that. And seniors in Florida—the state we supposedly lost when Mitt picked me—won’t be so scared as soon they know that my mother lives in Florida, and that all I want to do is reform the health care system so she can receive care that makes good fiscal sense.

Boy, I’m going to sell the sh*t out of that talking point. And I’m going to do a great job of it. Why? Because I’m Paul Ryan. That’s what I do.

And if we’re having trouble getting Pennsylvania on board, just wait until I absolutely wipe the floor with Joe Biden in the vice presidential debates. Don’t think for a second that I don’t know you’re terrified of us facing off, because in the back of your mind you know it could be a bloodbath up there.

Well, that’s 77 electoral votes, and by my math that means you can kiss your golden boy goodbye after four short years. All that promise. All that energy. All that potential. Gone in one November night.

I’m your worst f**king nightmare.

Oh, and by the way, don’t even try to pretend you haven’t imagined me being elected president one day.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 13, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
niiiiiiice!


 ::snoopydance::

we know they're thinking it!



(link didn't work for me)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 13, 2012, 09:35:20 PM
Somebody got in somebody else's OODA loop, big time, The Onion notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 13, 2012, 10:11:03 PM
(link didn't work for me)

It's because of the wording of the link...it has the word "sh*t" in it.

I got it at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331894) and you can link to it from there.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 13, 2012, 10:34:11 PM


I got it at AoS (http://minx.cc/?post=331894) and you can link to it from there.

thanks
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 13, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
At that link you will find this link (http://www.therightscoop.com/bret-baier-to-kirsten-powers-you-understand-how-silly-that-sounds/) to Kirsten Powers coming unhinged over Paul Ryan.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 13, 2012, 10:58:22 PM

It will affect old people, they're just not old yet, 
                                                                   you can't make lines like that up.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 14, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
No, it takes a special kind of brain that fortunate people are not equipped with.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2012, 07:21:48 AM
I guess for a lefty being oblivious to your own stupidity is a natural self-defense mechanism...other lefties probably just nod their heads in zombie-like fashion to such statements...the rest of us laugh and marvel over the complete lack of shame at being so completely clueless!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 14, 2012, 08:24:54 AM
Somebody needed to tell her not to worry because whole basis of obamacare is to kill you off before you get old. She would have understood.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2012, 11:33:12 AM
Nah, she'd struggle with that too.  No way her Lord and Messiah would kill her, only non-dem's kill people...that's the rumor anyway...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 14, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
  What the hell was that? I thought I was in the twilight zome.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 14, 2012, 08:55:53 PM


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/314016/giuliani-wonders-whether-biden-has-mental-capacity-presidency-robert-costa (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/314016/giuliani-wonders-whether-biden-has-mental-capacity-presidency-robert-costa)


    KUDLOW: You know, what did he say? ‘Y’all going to be put back in chains’? That almost has racial overtones, Rudy Giuliani. What’s your take on that?

    GIULIANI: Well, I think if it came from somebody serious maybe we’d get all excited about it. But the — I think the vice president of the United States has become a laugh line on late night television. I mean, he — I’ve never seen a vice president that has made as many mistakes, said as many stupid things. I mean, there’s a real fear if, God forbid, he ever had to be entrusted with the presidency, whether he really has the mental capacity to handle it. I mean, this guy just isn’t bright. He’s never been bright. He isn’t bright. And people think, ‘Well, he just talks a little too much.’ Actually he’s not very smart.

Rudy does have a way with words, he's got more to say at the link.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 14, 2012, 10:39:19 PM
Rudy has a very, very long memory and believes that accounts should always be payed in full...

Joe Biden: Noun + Verb + 9/11 = Giuliani Vocabulary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DteDRD6cbbM#)

And, yeah, Biden is a moron and it is scary to think that he could be president ever.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on August 14, 2012, 10:42:10 PM
Dan Quayle was no idiot, and he was tactful to boot.  Hannity (stuck with him on the way home from the dentist) ran a compilation of the left's smears against every Republican VP back to him and right up to Palin.

They need their faces broken.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2012, 07:11:16 AM
Dan Quayle was no idiot, and he was tactful to boot.  Hannity (stuck with him on the way home from the dentist) ran a compilation of the left's smears against every Republican VP back to him and right up to Palin.

They need their faces broken.

We can beat them with Plugs.   ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Jeez, the nitwit did it again!

"Folks, where's it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-folks-wheres-it-written-we-cant-lead-world-20th-century_650017.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-folks-wheres-it-written-we-cant-lead-world-20th-century_650017.html)

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

Oh man, what a hoot!  This idiot is the gift that keeps on giving!

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2012, 02:35:14 PM
I hope we see a hell of a lot more of this!  I think we will, and I am looking forward to each and every one!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/iowa-deli-co-owner-caters-for-obama-visit-but-his-t-shirt-tells-another-story/2012/08/15/abde5208-e71e-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/iowa-deli-co-owner-caters-for-obama-visit-but-his-t-shirt-tells-another-story/2012/08/15/abde5208-e71e-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_story.html)

 ::clapping::

http://www.ktul.com/story/19290493/broken-arrow-sign-sparks-controversy (http://www.ktul.com/story/19290493/broken-arrow-sign-sparks-controversy)

 ::bustamove::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 16, 2012, 07:46:05 PM
  I think a couple of those pluggs went too deep. ::foilhathelicopter::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2012, 11:50:21 AM
Apparently Jarrett tried to feel out   ::laughonfloor::  Hillary for Veep, Hillary demurred, favoring instead to ready her 2016 campaign.  Willy urged her to take it, I guess he feels a strong urge to scratch off more interns on his bucket list now vs later.  If anything it illustrates the Dem Veep slot is still in play goinginto the convention and given the recent blunders by Plugs, I guess I would not be surprised if another alternate is found.  It will be interesting to see if there is someone dumber than Plugs willing to go down with a sinking ship.  BUt if the Dem's have anything plentiful it is morons.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-rejected-vp-slot-to-ready-her-own-2016-run/article/2505206#.UC5vHaBaR_m (http://washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-rejected-vp-slot-to-ready-her-own-2016-run/article/2505206#.UC5vHaBaR_m)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 17, 2012, 01:24:39 PM
The real reason Hillary turned the VP job down was her penchant for fast food.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
Sibelius says Ryan plan "is serious", so there you have it from a top Obama Regime official, stop the demonization of Ryan and the Mediscare tactics of the Left!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/sebelius-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-a-serious-proposal-video/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 19, 2012, 12:43:12 AM
I thought that this would be a fitting moment to display this:

(http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/puppet-show.png)

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“We have plenty of time for big rallies,” a campaign spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, said between the rallies on Thursday. “Our focus right now is on exciting our supporters and winning over undecided voters and the smaller and medium-size events are the best venue to accomplish that because the president can closely engage with the crowd.”

Big rallies are expensive, especially given the logistical and security challenges for a president as opposed to a mere United States senator. And Obama campaign operatives, both at the Chicago headquarters and in swing states where Mr. Obama recently has stumped, say the campaign intentionally limits crowds by restricting tickets. The reason is to allow the president to better connect with supporters, aides say.

Umm...yeah. Sure. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/us/politics/campaign-events-for-president-obama-are-not-drawing-crowds-like-2008.html?_r=1)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on August 19, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
Big rallies are expensive, especially given the logistical and security challenges for a president ........

He's probably butt hurt since he longer holds rock star status.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 19, 2012, 09:18:41 AM
It's the fault of his staff. The voters are stupid and don't know when to show up. The weather has been lousy.

He's still the greatest.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 19, 2012, 10:35:21 AM
He needs to bring on the Greek columns. That'll get people off their asses and on their knees.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 19, 2012, 10:49:46 AM
Greek columns won't cut it. He will need pyrotechnics and fog. Maybe he should do the Stonehenge thing...

The Spinal Tap North American Tour as a metaphor for the Obama 2012 campaign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zdyo4vJuCU#)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 19, 2012, 06:30:40 PM
The preference cascade (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html) rolls inevitably onward like some freakish weeks long tsunami.

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In his inaugural address, Obama promised “not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth.” He promised to “build the roads and bridges, the electric grids, and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together.” He promised to “restore science to its rightful place and wield technology’s wonders to raise health care’s quality and lower its cost.” And he promised to “transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.” Unfortunately the president’s scorecard on every single one of those bold pledges is pitiful.

Yes, when you have lost the Daily Beast (Newsweek) it's pretty bad. I guess it's time for another interview with People magazine. Or maybe an exclusive with TMZ. Yeah, that would set things right. Get Axlerod on it right away.

Meanwhile...

Old and busted: O'Bongo and his traveling freakshow from Scranton.

The new hotness: Romney and that cute math guy.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 19, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
Just read that article Trap and see that you posted it, yup, rats bailing the sinking ship, SS Obongo is taking on lots of water.

To the bottom of the sea with thee!

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 19, 2012, 07:17:19 PM
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4837323569038321&pid=1.7&w=207&h=142&c=7&rs=1)



  Things aren't what they used to be.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 19, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4837323569038321&pid=1.7&w=207&h=142&c=7&rs=1)



  Things aren't what they used to be.

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Just read that article Trap and see that you posted it, yup, rats bailing the sinking ship, SS Obongo is taking on lots of water.

To the bottom of the sea with thee!



Seven thousand comments and still going strong. The leftists are coming unglued over this. Drudge still has it up as his headline and will probably keep it up into the afternoon atracting even more of the unhinged. You can't buy this entertainment at any price.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 09:17:19 AM
LINK (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4E3FDD5B-2632-40C1-B5AA-7CD1B8E8A2C8)


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President Barack Obama’s campaign team, celebrated four years ago for its exceptional cohesion and eyes-on-the-prize strategic focus, has been shadowed this time by a succession of political disagreements and personal rivalries that haunted the effort at the outset.

Second-guessing about personnel, strategy and tactics has been a dominant theme of the reelection effort, according to numerous current and former Obama advisers who were interviewed for “Obama’s Last Stand,” an e-book out Monday published in a collaboration between POLITICO and Random House.

The discord, these sources said, has on occasion flowed from Obama himself, who at repeated turns has made vocal his dissatisfaction with decisions made by his campaign team, with its messaging, with Vice President Joe Biden and with what Obama feared was clumsy coordination between his West Wing and reelection headquarters in Chicago.

The effort in Chicago, meanwhile, has been bedeviled by some of the drama Obama so deftly dodged in 2008 — including, at a critical point earlier this year, a spat that left senior operatives David Axelrod and Stephanie Cutter barely on speaking terms — and growing doubts about the effectiveness of Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

The e-book, produced as part of a two-month reporting project that included interviews with two dozen current and former members of Obama’s team, illuminates how the mood and character of the 2012 reelection effort is flowing from the top — with Obama’s own personality and values shaping his campaign just as powerfully as he did four years ago.

If, at this point, the "doubts" about mutant poodle woman are merely growing then the situation is far, far worse than this e-book could possible describe. BTW, I wouldn't give the POLITICO a dime. It's an e-book...anything even vaguely worth reading or knowing will be all over the internet in a news cycle or two.

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Many of Obama’s advisers have quietly begun questioning whether they should have picked Wasserman Schultz, an outspoken Florida congresswoman, as his DNC chairwoman. She has clashed with Chicago over her choice of staff and air-time on national TV shows — and they think she comes across as too partisan over the airwaves.

Congenital political tone deafness...otherwise known as an echo chamber...and its consequences. Their bench sucks. Without the press to cover for them and prop them up it would be embarrassingly obvious to even the most uninterested of the public.

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Obama really doesn’t like, admire or even grudgingly respect Romney. It’s a level of contempt, say aides, he doesn’t even feel for the conservative, combative House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, the Hill Republican he disliked the most. “There was a baseline of respect for John McCain. The president always thought he was an honorable man and a war hero,” a longtime Obama adviser said. “That doesn’t hold true for Romney. He was no goddamned war hero.”

Time and again Obama has told the people around him that Romney stood for “nothing.” The word he would use to describe Romney was “weak,” too weak to stand up to his own moneymen, too weak to defend his own moderate record as the man who signed into law the first health insurance mandate as Massachusetts governor in 2006, too weak to admit Obama had done a single thing right as president.

The two things Obama fears most about a Romney victory: A 7-to-2 conservative Supreme Court within a few years. And the equally unbearable possibility, in his mind, that Romney will get to take a victory lap on an economic rebound Obama sees as just around the corner. “I’m not going to let him win … so that he can take credit when the economy turns around,” Obama said, according to an aide.

Failure to respect your enemy is a huge mistake. I don't like or admire O'Bongo one bit but I certainly respect the power that he wields as the president. Romney and his staff do, too, and have formulated a strategy to deal with it. O'Bongo is flailing because of his irrational hatred for Romney and it shows. Everyone sees it. It isn't presidential. It's juvenile in the extreme.

But he's right that we can't wait to pack the court. I would nominate Mark Levin in a heartbeat for the Supreme Court. That would shake things up.

But no, the economy isn't going to turn around for years thanks to O'Bongo's meddling with the free market. That it is going to turn around the day after Romney is sworn in is pure fantasy and massive ego on O'Bongo's part.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 20, 2012, 09:30:27 AM
Beck is all over the Ferguson article this morning. The mockery was cruel and excessive. I loved it!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
Everything about O'Bongo just begs for mockery. He's an infant in so many ways.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 20, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4837323569038321&pid=1.7&w=207&h=142&c=7&rs=1)



  Things aren't what they used to be.

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The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. –Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC); Roman Statesman Maybe (http://ancienthistory.about.com/b/2011/08/11/did-cicero-say-it.htm)

Its it bad that I just don't care if things are absolutely true anymore? The left doesn't care and will ignore it even if it was. It seems that spouting our own outright propaganda is the only way to turn these middle road "can't pay attention"  morons to our side.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
This is mildly surprising. (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/20/shock-poll-obama-could-lose-illinois/) It's a poll of 600+ registered voters...not likely voters...in Illinois. My experience with interpreting polls (purely amateur to be sure) is that a poll of registered voters will usually favor Democrats. There is no information on how the poll was weighted (and I wouldn't know how to deconstruct it if it did). Read on:

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A poll conducted by Illinois-based pollster and political strategist Michael McKeon found Obama leading Republican Mitt Romney by 49 percent to 37 percent in Cook County, the home of Chicago. That puts him ahead by a far thinner margin than expected in a county he should be winning handsomely.

Cook is the most Democratic leaning county in the state. It is also the most populous.

Those numbers do not bode well for the president.

“He has to come out of Cook County with a big lead or he’s gonna have problems downstate,” explained McKeon, who said that based on the numbers he had seen, Obama polled only in the forties in downstate Illinois.

“It’s not like his policies are very popular downstate,” McKeon said. “He’s viewed as more part of Chicago than he is part of Illinois.”

According to the poll, which surveyed 629 registered voters last week, Obama’s problems are not in Chicago proper, but in suburban Cook County.

This poll is a thermometer stuck in the ass of the O'Bongo campaign and the reading is not good. Look, O'Bongo is going to almost certainly win Illinois and I have zero illusions about it. BUT...this is not a good sign for the overall health of the re-election effort. This poll shows weakness. It is not a picture of strength or confidence or anything that is of comfort to the Democrats.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
Just a general notation and thought on the overall campaign at this point:

You will notice that the Democrats are pretty much completely on defense.

This is happening for two reasons.

First and most obvious is that they have been in charge and they are therefore responsible for the state of the union. The House is dominated by Republicans but this is pretty much irrelevant in the way that the country is being governed. The president has been using any means necessary (legal and otherwise) to circumvent Congress and the Senate has been obstructing the House to the point where no budget has been passed in three years.

What this means, of course, is that the Democrats (whether they like it or not and they don't) own the economy and everything else that the voters find to be unpleasant about the country and the world. Which is most everything. Hard cheese, Democrats...you have to defend the mess you made.

Secondly, and more importantly, the Romney campaign is on offense in a big way. This is not the 2008 campaign of Senator Gelding who was terrified of doing or saying anything (including using the middle name of the Democrat candidate) for reasons that made sense only to him and his chronically overweight daughter.

Romney's offensive strategy is a pleasant surprise for me. I still don't care for him but, as Lincoln said about General Grant, "I can't spare this man. He fights." Romney's campaign is taking advantage of nearly every opportunity to stick the knife in and then usually for good measure, twist it a few times. This has kept the O'Bongo campaign on defense for the most part which is where it should be. The Democrats don't deserve to be on offense and their position is so weak, so pathetic that they won't be able to mount a solid offense as long as Romney can keep throwing the gut punches that make O'Bongo suck wind.

Barring a complete turnaround (which could always happen) this election is on a glide path for a Republican victory.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 20, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
Excellent analysis Trap.

I have noted that the leftist toilet-drinkers (hard-core adherents to the dhimmicrat party no matter what) are beginning to circle the wagons. They are recognizing the attacks that are starting to come from the left, joining the onslaught from the right.

I continue to enjoy the confusion and frustration when the "arguments" they frame don't work. The reason why those tactics are failing? Because I decline to defend mittens. Instead I parry every attack against Romney (or now Ryan) by pointing out how Øbozo is any number of magnitude worse. They can't get any traction because I refuse to fight them on their terms.

So the lame crap that they have as arrows (tax returns, dog on the roof, and now Ryan "lying" about stimulus) have all the resonance of banging a tin cup.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 20, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
Beck is all over the Ferguson article this morning. The mockery was cruel and excessive. I loved it!

He was also all over that pathetic New Mexico radio show...some #2 banana channel...and the DJ's were only allowed to ask non-political questions and the WH suggested like music and basketball!  Fracking hilarious!  "I'm a rock star, please like me and vote for me"!

 ::laughonfloor::

There are only so many mindless twits willing to go that route Barry, and they already are in your camp, dumbass!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 20, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
So the lame crap that they have as arrows (tax returns, dog on the roof, and now Ryan "lying" about stimulus) have all the resonance of banging a tin cup dead cat against a damp blanket.



Fixed it. Tin cups are noisy when banged. As you noted, they aren't getting traction. The arguments (such as they are) are lame. They are grasping at anything. Seriously...dog on roof? Dog on roof of mouth gets more action.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 20, 2012, 11:36:31 AM
Yeah, good stuff Trap, I especially like the gut punches that make Obama suck wind...what beautiful imagery!   ::danceban::

Saw this poll too.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156776/swing-state-voters-say-no-better-off-2008.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics (http://www.gallup.com/poll/156776/swing-state-voters-say-no-better-off-2008.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics)

If Gallup has a 16 point spread in a swing-state poll of just registered voters (only 970), you know the real picture is a hell of a lot worse for Team Stymie!

Keep the punches coming!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 20, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
Here's another punch...

Gas prices, musn't forget them, and the policies of the Obama Regime that have greatly exacerbated them!

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5094.new.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5094.new.html)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 20, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
LINK (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4E3FDD5B-2632-40C1-B5AA-7CD1B8E8A2C8)


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President Barack Obama’s campaign team, celebrated four years ago for its exceptional cohesion and eyes-on-the-prize strategic focus, has been shadowed this time by a succession of political disagreements and personal rivalries that haunted the effort at the outset.

Second-guessing about personnel, strategy and tactics has been a dominant theme of the reelection effort, according to numerous current and former Obama advisers who were interviewed for “Obama’s Last Stand,” an e-book out Monday published in a collaboration between POLITICO and Random House.

The discord, these sources said, has on occasion flowed from Obama himself, who at repeated turns has made vocal his dissatisfaction with decisions made by his campaign team, with its messaging, with Vice President Joe Biden and with what Obama feared was clumsy coordination between his West Wing and reelection headquarters in Chicago.

The effort in Chicago, meanwhile, has been bedeviled by some of the drama Obama so deftly dodged in 2008 — including, at a critical point earlier this year, a spat that left senior operatives David Axelrod and Stephanie Cutter barely on speaking terms — and growing doubts about the effectiveness of Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

The e-book, produced as part of a two-month reporting project that included interviews with two dozen current and former members of Obama’s team, illuminates how the mood and character of the 2012 reelection effort is flowing from the top — with Obama’s own personality and values shaping his campaign just as powerfully as he did four years ago.

If, at this point, the "doubts" about mutant poodle woman are merely growing then the situation is far, far worse than this e-book could possible describe. BTW, I wouldn't give the POLITICO a dime. It's an e-book...anything even vaguely worth reading or knowing will be all over the internet in a news cycle or two.

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Many of Obama’s advisers have quietly begun questioning whether they should have picked Wasserman Schultz, an outspoken Florida congresswoman, as his DNC chairwoman. She has clashed with Chicago over her choice of staff and air-time on national TV shows — and they think she comes across as too partisan over the airwaves.

Congenital political tone deafness...otherwise known as an echo chamber...and its consequences. Their bench sucks. Without the press to cover for them and prop them up it would be embarrassingly obvious to even the most uninterested of the public.

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Obama really doesn’t like, admire or even grudgingly respect Romney. It’s a level of contempt, say aides, he doesn’t even feel for the conservative, combative House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, the Hill Republican he disliked the most. “There was a baseline of respect for John McCain. The president always thought he was an honorable man and a war hero,” a longtime Obama adviser said. “That doesn’t hold true for Romney. He was no goddamned war hero.”

Time and again Obama has told the people around him that Romney stood for “nothing.” The word he would use to describe Romney was “weak,” too weak to stand up to his own moneymen, too weak to defend his own moderate record as the man who signed into law the first health insurance mandate as Massachusetts governor in 2006, too weak to admit Obama had done a single thing right as president.

The two things Obama fears most about a Romney victory: A 7-to-2 conservative Supreme Court within a few years. And the equally unbearable possibility, in his mind, that Romney will get to take a victory lap on an economic rebound Obama sees as just around the corner. “I’m not going to let him win … so that he can take credit when the economy turns around,” Obama said, according to an aide.

Failure to respect your enemy is a huge mistake. I don't like or admire O'Bongo one bit but I certainly respect the power that he wields as the president. Romney and his staff do, too, and have formulated a strategy to deal with it. O'Bongo is flailing because of his irrational hatred for Romney and it shows. Everyone sees it. It isn't presidential. It's juvenile in the extreme.

But he's right that we can't wait to pack the court. I would nominate Mark Levin in a heartbeat for the Supreme Court. That would shake things up.

But no, the economy isn't going to turn around for years thanks to O'Bongo's meddling with the free market. That it is going to turn around the day after Romney is sworn in is pure fantasy and massive ego on O'Bongo's part.

One of the larger reasons to vote Romney....If he will pack the court. But hey, so far his campaign has been heads and tails better than our 08 war hero....who didn't want to fight.

Obummer worried Romney would benefit from the economic "bounce" I guess obummer believes he is creating. ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 22, 2012, 09:59:46 PM
Saw this post (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/22/academic-model-romney-will-take-52-9-of-the-vote-320-electoral-votes/) over at HotAir and this is the sort of prediction that I have had in mind...landslide for Romney. As I have said over and over, I just don't see the electorate voting for more misery.

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Using a state-by-state analysis of unemployment and per-capita income, academics Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry of the University of Colorado project that Romney will win 52.9% of the popular vote and 320 electoral votes.

...

Bickers said much of the polling thus far means relatively little, with much of the electorate still not focused on the race. The academics said their model focuses on the preeminent issue of the economy. Applied retrospectively, the model predicts the correct winner in every presidential contest going back to 1980, they said.

Despite all of the cover offered by the MFM the public just won't be buying that everything is wonderful and getting better every day. Instinctively people know when they are being lied to on a grand scale. It is just flat out dishonest to say that O'Bongo has created jobs when the data unmistakably indicates that there are STILL fewer people with jobs today than when O'Bongo took office. When Romney gets officially nominated and can begin to spend on advertising these points about the economy need to be hammered into everyone's head until it becomes gospel.

And when that happens the election is over. O'Bongo has failed miserably. You know it. I know it. And soon everyone will know it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 22, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
The preference cascade rolls on...

The Hope And The Change - Official Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLelSaD1zHU#ws)

These are powerful images. What can I say? O'Bongo has created a target rich environment.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 22, 2012, 11:32:35 PM

Exceptional, send it to a liberal.
If it doesn't help change their
mind it will depress their vote.

I saved it on my laptop and it will be shown to a liberal at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 23, 2012, 12:19:50 AM
Okay, so while I'm at it I am going to post on the whole Newsweek/Niall Ferguson thing which was the cover of Drudge a few days ago.

First here is the cover story (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html) that started it all. And a relevant quote just for the heck of it...

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...the question confronting the country nearly four years later is not who was the better candidate four years ago. It is whether the winner has delivered on his promises. And the sad truth is that he has not.

In his inaugural address, Obama promised “not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth.” He promised to “build the roads and bridges, the electric grids, and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together.” He promised to “restore science to its rightful place and wield technology’s wonders to raise health care’s quality and lower its cost.” And he promised to “transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.” Unfortunately the president’s scorecard on every single one of those bold pledges is pitiful.

The article goes on to catalog O'Bongo's various and storied failings much to the delight of conservatives. I think that conservatives (and I include myself here) derive more pleasure from this being the cover story of Newsweek and the ensuing liberal apoplexy that went with it than the article itself.

Perhaps one of the higher profile liberal freak outs came in the form of Paul Krugman's editorial rebuttal (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/unethical-commentary-newsweek-edition/) at the NYTs...

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There are multiple errors and misrepresentations in Niall Ferguson’s cover story in Newsweek — I guess they don’t do fact-checking — but this is the one that jumped out at me. Ferguson says:
"The president pledged that health-care reform would not add a cent to the deficit. But the CBO and the Joint Committee on Taxation now estimate that the insurance-coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of close to $1.2 trillion over the 2012–22 period."

Readers are no doubt meant to interpret this as saying that CBO found that the Act will increase the deficit. But anyone who actually read, or even skimmed, the CBO report (pdf) knows that it found that the ACA would reduce, not increase, the deficit — because the insurance subsidies were fully paid for.

Which was then followed by Niall Ferguson firing back (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/21/niall-ferguson-defends-newsweek-cover-correct-this-bloggers.html) at Krugman (and others)...

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The other day, a British friend asked me if there was anything about the United States I disliked. I was happily on vacation and couldn’t think of anything. But now I remember. I really can’t stand America’s liberal bloggers.

“We know no spectacle so ridiculous,” Lord Macaulay famously wrote, “as the British public in one of its periodical fits of morality.” But the spectacle of the American liberal blogosphere in one of its almost daily fits of righteous indignation is not so much ridiculous as faintly sinister. Why? Because what I have encountered since the publication of my Newsweek article criticizing President Obama looks suspiciously like an orchestrated attempt to discredit me.

My critics have three things in common. First, they wholly fail to respond to the central arguments of the piece. Second, they claim to be engaged in “fact checking,” whereas in nearly all cases they are merely offering alternative (often silly or skewed) interpretations of the facts. Third, they adopt a tone of outrage that would be appropriate only if I had argued that, say, women’s bodies can somehow prevent pregnancies in case of “legitimate rape.”

Their approach is highly effective, and I must remember it if I ever decide to organize an intellectual witch hunt. What makes it so irksome is that it simultaneously dodges the central thesis of my piece and at the same time seeks to brand me as a liar. The icing on the cake has been the attempt by some bloggers to demand that I be sacked not just by Newsweek but also by Harvard University, where I am a tenured professor. It is especially piquant to read these demands from people who would presumably defend academic freedom in the last ditch—provided it is the freedom to publish opinions in line with their own ideology.

Finally, Newsweek decided that they had to explain and justify the "controversial" cover story and they discuss it here with Justine Rosenthal, the executive editor of Newsweek....

The Backstory on Newsweek's Controversial Cover Story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4340-bbbtmA#ws)

Miss Rosenthal looks like an animated corpse with eyeliner, BTW. Watching her talk was creeping me out.

The Daily Kos weighed in with several postings on the subject. Here is a link (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/20/1122186/-Brad-DeLong-Fire-His-Ass-Ferguson-s-Newsweek-Hack-Job) to the one with the most comments and it's pretty much what you would expect from the hysterical left.

Another offering from the DK... (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/19/1121982/-Newsweek-Magazine-Needs-to-Be-Put-out-of-Business-Permanently)

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I would advise anyone who currently subscribes to this rag to end your subscription promptly. This week, Newsweek Magazine is featuring it's cover story titled "Hit The Road, Barack. Why we Need a New President" This is nothing more than a smear attempt by a washed-up, has-been Harvard Professor, Niall Ferguson, a self-admitted Romney/Ryan supporter, who was an advisor to John McCain in 2008.

Of course, Newsweek wants people to know that Ferguson first and foremost is a "writer" and "historian" who just happens to think that Romney/Ryan would make a better President. But his propaganda piece is barf-worthy and bordering on fringe musings.

The PuffHo put out an article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/newsweek-niall-ferguson-krugman_n_1818764.html?utm_hp_ref=media) on the original Ferguson piece and its aftermath. The article is typical PuffHo boring but there are 800 or so comments that follow it with the usual unintentional comedy gold.

I have no idea why Newsweek would allow this story to be published. It's an even greater mystery as to why it ended up on the cover. Perhaps they are attempting to raise the profile of their mag to something above doormat...don't know. I certainly don't believe that they are attempting to be fair and balanced. That is patently absurd.

But, the thing is that this article or anything remotely like it would never have seen the light of day if things were even marginally hopeful that O'Bongo was going to be re-elected. I believe that Newsweek knows the truth about President Downgrade's odds on being returned to office and they are making the most of it for whatever reason. Keep your eyes out for more stuff like this showing up in other outlets in the next few weeks. This is a force of nature now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on August 23, 2012, 12:28:33 AM
I find it hilarious (if not infuriating) that the one time, every now and then, when we see what Rush aptly calls "a random act of journalism" the Left goes off into fits of apoplexy bemoaning the death of journalism. Boy, they really do have one gigantic blind spot don't they? It's a weakness and we need to learn to exploit it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 23, 2012, 09:19:19 AM


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Miss Rosenthal looks like an animated corpse with eyeliner, BTW. Watching her talk was creeping me out.

At first blush she looks like a patient in a hospital cafeteria. (mental ward)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 24, 2012, 02:34:17 AM
And now, as a comedy interlude, mutant poodle woman will entertain you with her adamant refusal to acknowledge that the sky is, in fact, blue...

Mutant Poodle Woman Struggles Valiantly To Argue That Up Is Really Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k-KuYJraEg#ws)

In a different world mutant poodle woman would not be a member of congress but rather locked up for the protection of herself and others. She certainly would be forcibly sterilized to prevent contamination of the gene pool.

The real mystery here is the motivation of CNN. I can see them attempting to torment Republicans but it's more than a little strange to see them going after those on their side of the aisle. I mean...why pick on the poor intellectually challenged DWS? It's like kicking a puppy. In this case a poodle puppy. Why not go after someone who is perhaps a little bit better prepared in the brain department? If you are going to go to the trouble of actually challenging the left on an issue it should at least be something approaching a fair fight.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 24, 2012, 05:45:56 AM
I can't hear that woman's voice or see her face without thinking fondly of beheading.

Can't help it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 24, 2012, 09:22:18 AM
Quote
The real mystery here is the motivation of CNN. I can see them attempting to torment Republicans but it's more than a little strange to see them going after those on their side of the aisle. I mean...why pick on the poor intellectually challenged DWS? It's like kicking a puppy. In this case a poodle puppy. Why not go after someone who is perhaps a little bit better prepared in the brain department? If you are going to go to the trouble of actually challenging the left on an issue it should at least be something approaching a fair fight.

They're just going after the low-hanging fruit-loops.  ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 24, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
When Anderson Cooper is outraged by a lie it's a whopper and he did what I would think that Beck or Rush would have done if they had her in front of them. That woman and others on the dem side have no recognition of what is the truth,I'll take it all the way to calling them liars.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 24, 2012, 11:05:01 AM
Entertaining ...rats jumping from a sinking ship...Cooper would never asked those questions 4 years ago...
it's not like the dems haven't sent out mailings like that for years.....



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
I react like IDP, but with a wood-chipper.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
A Shrink Asks: What’s Wrong with Obama?
http://mychal-massie.com/premium/a-shrink-asks-whats-wrong-with-obama-reprint-from-robin-of-berkeley/ (http://mychal-massie.com/premium/a-shrink-asks-whats-wrong-with-obama-reprint-from-robin-of-berkeley/)

Abandonment, Thursday Night Sex Club, Choom Club, Frank Marshall Davis....

Yeah, what's right about Obama?

Nothing that I can see...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 24, 2012, 09:25:06 PM

Heh, as I asked, is Romney going
to win as big as Reagan or bigger?


In other words, 49 or 50?



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 24, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/08/24/hollywood-bailing-on-president-obama-and-democratic-national-convention/)

The preference cascade. Can't stop it. Can only experience it.

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President Obama recently praised Hollywood superstar George Clooney, calling him a “wonderful guy” and good friend. But even in the wake of the headline-grabbing compliments, a rep for the Oscar-winning actor confirmed he will not be attending the forthcoming Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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"No place is more fickle than Hollywood. Obama over promised and under delivered with regard to ‘Hope & Change’ and he is experiencing the consequences with the lack of celebrity support at this year’s DNC," political expert and humorist Rob Taub told FOX411's Pop Tarts column. "Many celebrities are still making large financial contributions to the campaign, but they’re concerned about public displays of affection to a candidate with waning popularity. At best, expect B-list stars at the convention."

Holy crap! The celebs are bailing on us! What should we do?! What should we say?! Oh, I know...

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...one source closely connected to the party assured us that the lack of Hollywood types this year is very deliberate, as the "Democrats try to keep celebrities away as they think it hurts their image."


Yeah, that'll work. Plus don't donate any money to the campaign. Unless it's three dollars.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 24, 2012, 10:16:00 PM

http://www.spreecast.com/events/ex-nfl-great-to-blacks-say-no-to-obama/embed-medium (http://www.spreecast.com/events/ex-nfl-great-to-blacks-say-no-to-obama/embed-medium)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2012, 11:09:19 PM

Heh, as I asked, is Romney going
to win as big as Reagan or bigger?


In other words, 49 or 50?





The electoral map looks promising, and that'll fire up the Dem's retarded call to set fire to the rest of the constitution and end the electoral college...too bad my state will likely go for Obama, most of the GOP delegates are Paul backers so they'll write him in before voting for Romney even if it means giving Obama an easy win...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2012, 11:10:15 PM

http://www.spreecast.com/events/ex-nfl-great-to-blacks-say-no-to-obama/embed-medium (http://www.spreecast.com/events/ex-nfl-great-to-blacks-say-no-to-obama/embed-medium)

Oh oh, Plantation police gonna be on his case big-time!  Good luck, man!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 24, 2012, 11:35:54 PM

There is a train a coming.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KHwnvpBV8#)


Curtis Mayfield - People Get Ready - #8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXmaSCt4ZE#)


Oh, I hear that train a comin', I love it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 25, 2012, 09:30:00 AM
Mite git runn'd over.

Heh.

Hey engineer, is that throttle wide open?!  Give 'er some more!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 25, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues ( with Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX009sWzRQg#)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 26, 2012, 11:11:50 AM

Tampa Bay Times: (http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1247631.ece) As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I’m confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation.
             Charlie Crist

Charlie Crist, Florida's favorite sponsored and supported by the GOP, NRSC, and recruited by John Cornyn - what a crew.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2012, 01:13:08 PM
Street light decorations.

Heh, is there a song by that title?   ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: warpmine on August 26, 2012, 02:00:01 PM

Tampa Bay Times: (http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1247631.ece) As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I’m confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation.
             Charlie Crist

Charlie Crist, Florida's favorite sponsored and supported by the GOP, NRSC, and recruited by John Cornyn - what a crew.

Can the party not banish members that are so off the path that it causes credibility problems?
All kidding aside, Crist must have received heat stroke one to many times killing at least half his brain tissue. ::douchebag::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 26, 2012, 03:01:48 PM

Tampa Bay Times: (http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1247631.ece) As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I’m confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation.
             Charlie Crist

Charlie Crist, Florida's favorite sponsored and supported by the GOP, NRSC, and recruited by John Cornyn - what a crew.



I thought crack was illegal.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2012, 07:46:37 PM

Tampa Bay Times: (http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1247631.ece) As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I’m confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation.
             Charlie Crist

Charlie Crist, Florida's favorite sponsored and supported by the GOP, NRSC, and recruited by John Cornyn - what a crew.



I thought crack was illegal.

Only for the non-elites.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 03:28:34 AM
Here's a whole great big stinkin' article (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/25/2012-Untold-Story-Obama-Is-Losing) chock full of anecdotal evidence that O'Bongo is losing the race. Ultimately not very satisfying but good for a quick pick-me-up if you need a boost...

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Meanwhile, President FailureTeleprompter is relegated to rationalizing his lack of turnout into a "deliberate" desire for smaller, more intimate crowds. Yeah, that sounds like the Mr. Greek Column we've all come to know and grow tired of.

Meanwhile, the media refuses to report on the size of either side's crowds.

Meanwhile, across the country, the documentary film "2016" has just opened wide on over 1,000 screens and in the heart of Hollywood's biggest season hit #3 at the box office.

Meanwhile, though their Media Palace Guards assure us this is not the case, the Obama campaign's increasingly desperate and shrill campaign is acting more and more like a campaign so far behind and so in fear of losing, they feel they have nothing to lose. From "felon" to "chains" to "Mitt killed my wife" to one bald-faced lie after another, President Obama has forsaken the dignity of the office and -- should he win a second term --  all hope of bringing the country together after the kind of scorched-earth campaign only the terrified wage.

There's lots more at the link.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2012, 06:57:50 AM
It is really fun to see the panic escalate!  They let more of their insanity out when they see defeat staring at them.  I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the shrill shriek-fest they call a convention will set a new low on many counts!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 27, 2012, 08:32:55 AM
Here's a whole great big stinkin' article (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/25/2012-Untold-Story-Obama-Is-Losing) chock full of anecdotal evidence that O'Bongo is losing the race. Ultimately not very satisfying but good for a quick pick-me-up if you need a boost...

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Meanwhile, President FailureTeleprompter is relegated to rationalizing his lack of turnout into a "deliberate" desire for smaller, more intimate crowds. Yeah, that sounds like the Mr. Greek Column we've all come to know and grow tired of.

Meanwhile, the media refuses to report on the size of either side's crowds.

Meanwhile, across the country, the documentary film "2016" has just opened wide on over 1,000 screens and in the heart of Hollywood's biggest season hit #3 at the box office.

Meanwhile, though their Media Palace Guards assure us this is not the case, the Obama campaign's increasingly desperate and shrill campaign is acting more and more like a campaign so far behind and so in fear of losing, they feel they have nothing to lose. From "felon" to "chains" to "Mitt killed my wife" to one bald-faced lie after another, President Obama has forsaken the dignity of the office and -- should he win a second term --  all hope of bringing the country together after the kind of scorched-earth campaign only the terrified wage.

There's lots more at the link.



Few years back, I had conversations with a lib or two over a lib biased media. Those debates ended after about 6 months of the Obama presidency. They were lite conversations, I knew the two libs well and they ended friendly, but always with a warning that you cannot claim to be a uniter as you use a willing media to deliver a message of division.
I did not end the conversations....they did.....I ended contact because I simply don't want anything to do with libs anymore.

They were intellectually dishonest and Obamas presidency is exposing those types. My hope is there are enough people who will recognize,at least the lying, and vote this joker out.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 27, 2012, 01:37:40 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 27, 2012, 06:25:17 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.


   I've been saying that people are lying for months for the very same reason.Must be that great minds thing.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 27, 2012, 07:33:55 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.


   I've been saying that people are lying for months for the very same reason.Must be that great minds thing.

I wonder how the media elite will handle the ass kickin obama will take. I can envision CNN stating, "with 98% of precincts reporting, Romney holds a 3 point lead...so its too close to call".
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.


   I've been saying that people are lying for months for the very same reason.Must be that great minds thing.

I wonder how the media elite will handle the ass kickin obama will take. I can envision CNN stating, "with 98% of precincts reporting, Romney holds a 3 point lead...so its too close to call".

Yeah, and after O'Bongo loses they'll blame angry racist white folks and Bible-clutching Christians and gun nuts for his demise, saying the nation as taken a great leap backwards.  You know they have the boilerplate already type set and ready to run.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 27, 2012, 08:14:55 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.


   I've been saying that people are lying for months for the very same reason.Must be that great minds thing.

I wonder how the media elite will handle the ass kickin obama will take. I can envision CNN stating, "with 98% of precincts reporting, Romney holds a 3 point lead...so its too close to call".

Yeah, and after O'Bongo loses they'll blame angry racist white folks and Bible-clutching Christians and gun nuts for his demise, saying the nation as taken a great leap backwards.  You know they have the boilerplate already type set and ready to run.


I'll send 'em an e mail....Thank goodness for the good ole days.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 27, 2012, 08:18:57 PM
For some poll driven encouragement I suggest reading this entire post Ed Morrisey in which Romney comes out 1 point ahead in a D+9 poll. The notion that only 22% Republicans will turn out is laughable. But read the whole thing.

The reason why this intrigues me is that Romney goes into the convention statistically tied with O'Bongo. If there is any post convention bounce (and face it, there almost always is) then next week's polling should be entertaining to say the least. It will be panic city on the left going into their three day abortion love fest.



My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused. I believe Romney's gonna win by 7 points. The so called "moderates" and all these "undecided's" are not gonna break obama's way.


   I've been saying that people are lying for months for the very same reason.Must be that great minds thing.

I wonder how the media elite will handle the ass kickin obama will take. I can envision CNN stating, "with 98% of precincts reporting, Romney holds a 3 point lead...so its too close to call".

 It's an ambush in the making.Win by landslide!!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on August 27, 2012, 08:24:09 PM
Lets not get too confident, remember the Supreme Court decision on obamacare?  Some were confidant that we were going to win that battle hands down.  I remind my son all the time that karma is a bitc#, I tell him not to boast.  Don't think your team is going to kick the other teams a$$ cause they always do, when it don't happen you get very disappointed.  Don't count your chicks before they hatch.  Let's just keep fighting the good fight and see what happens, remember pride is one of the seven.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
I think we are all well seasoned enough and have many of the same scars to attest for our efforts and will not let overconfidence get the better of us.  It is the Left that is routinely overconfident, it's why their panic attacks are overriding their cloaking mechanisms and letting all their buffoonery in all its ugliness to spill forth.  I look forward to them growing more and more unhinged, it can only mean their internal polling and other inescapable realities are beginning to take their toll.  Having said that I find the sandbagging of libiot polls will help us in that regard, and the shock at the polls will be that much more enjoyable.  And our side (such as it is) should not let the foot off the gas, but there will be hiccups and inopportune pauses in the campaign, but the momentum seems inescapable, even if I do not share the majority optimism in what a victory may mean in the final analysis. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 27, 2012, 09:22:08 PM

...My thought is there are many people lying when polled. It's a racist thing....don't want to be accused...

The "Bradley Effect" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect)


Lets not get too confident, remember the Supreme Court decision on obamacare?  Some were confidant that we were going to win that battle hands down.  I remind my son all the time that karma is a bitc#, I tell him not to boast.  Don't think your team is going to kick the other teams a$$ cause they always do, when it don't happen you get very disappointed.  Don't count your chicks before they hatch.  Let's just keep fighting the good fight and see what happens, remember pride is one of the seven.

Sage counsel.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
Talk about the projectors projecting!

Since when is Obama divisive?
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/27/since_when_is_obama_divisive/ (http://www.salon.com/2012/08/27/since_when_is_obama_divisive/)

Batsh*t crazy is as batsh*t crazy does...these people are peddling some pungent BS!

Yeah, let's not focus on facts and reality, lets suck down another fat blast of hopium and wonder why others aren't wetting their pants in uncontrollable awe over the magnificence of Duh Wun's autobiography!

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::

That stuff don't smoke itself!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:04:39 AM
I guess that I am all in against Mark Halperin. (http://thepage.time.com/2012/08/27/the-electoral-college-cannot-be-bluffed/?xid=rss-topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29)

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In May, after a round of interviews with senior Barack Obama advisers, I concluded that they were, to a person, cautiously confident that their man could beat Mitt Romney.

As I wrote then:

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“Because the popular vote is expected to be closer than it was four years ago, the Obama team is not being coy when it admits this will be a close election. But as of the first week of May, it is not a close election any of the team’s members expects to lose.”

On the eve of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, after another series of conversations with White House and Chicago-based senior officials, I have reached — wait for it — the same conclusion.

I'm still confident that O'Bongo will lose. Big.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:55:13 AM
Who the hell is Mark Halperin?

It's so hard remembering all the crackheads on the left...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on August 28, 2012, 07:26:31 PM
I guess that I am all in against Mark Halperin. (http://thepage.time.com/2012/08/27/the-electoral-college-cannot-be-bluffed/?xid=rss-topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29)

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In May, after a round of interviews with senior Barack Obama advisers, I concluded that they were, to a person, cautiously confident that their man could beat Mitt Romney.

As I wrote then:

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“Because the popular vote is expected to be closer than it was four years ago, the Obama team is not being coy when it admits this will be a close election. But as of the first week of May, it is not a close election any of the team’s members expects to lose.”

On the eve of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, after another series of conversations with White House and Chicago-based senior officials, I have reached — wait for it — the same conclusion.

I'm still confident that O'Bongo will lose. Big.



 ::praying::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
Hmmm....

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In an appearance on The Huffington Post’s webcast on Thursday, filmmaker Michael Moore revealed that he is less-than optimistic about President Barack Obama’s chances against Mitt Romney.

Moore said the election’s going to come down to fundraising, and that Romney will have an edge over Obama.

“Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama,” Moore said. “That should guarantee his victory. I think people should start to practice the words ‘President Romney.’

LINK (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/30/michael-moore-practice-the-words-president-romney/#ixzz255rE7gWC)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 11:41:01 PM
Okay, now we wait for the post convention polls.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 07:56:40 AM
Hmmm....

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In an appearance on The Huffington Post’s webcast on Thursday, filmmaker Michael Moore revealed that he is less-than optimistic about President Barack Obama’s chances against Mitt Romney.

Moore said the election’s going to come down to fundraising, and that Romney will have an edge over Obama.

“Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama,” Moore said. “That should guarantee his victory. I think people should start to practice the words ‘President Romney.’

LINK (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/30/michael-moore-practice-the-words-president-romney/#ixzz255rE7gWC)

Yea, Romney will win because he will raise more money........I wonder if the thought ever occurred to Moore he is raising more money because Obama has ridiculed business, over regulated, ruled by fiat, alienated our allies, the list is so damn long......
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2012, 08:36:28 AM
More signs Team OBongo is in deep kimchee!

Dems Giving Away Tickets to Obama's Speech
http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/dems-giving-away-tickets-to-obamas-speech-9af17d66?ncid=newsltuspatc00000001 (http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/dems-giving-away-tickets-to-obamas-speech-9af17d66?ncid=newsltuspatc00000001)

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 31, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
Moore is rationalizing what he knows to be the truth.

What is surprising is that he is 1) aware of the truth and 2) verbalizing it at all.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on August 31, 2012, 11:05:59 AM
More signs Team OBongo is in deep kimchee!

Dems Giving Away Tickets to Obama's Speech
http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/dems-giving-away-tickets-to-obamas-speech-9af17d66?ncid=newsltuspatc00000001 (http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/dems-giving-away-tickets-to-obamas-speech-9af17d66?ncid=newsltuspatc00000001)

 ::hysterical::

Mistake number 1: Hold your convention in the conservative south.
Mistake number 2: Lose control of who gets in
Mistake number 3: Allow the public to become aware of 1 & 2

Democrats hate rednecks. Rednecks hate Democrats. The south is full of some very creative rednecks. Let the games begin.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 31, 2012, 12:32:45 PM
I think it's funny that the dems are pretty much left with "they have more money!".  Wasn't it the dems who were bragging that BO raised so much money last time and this time he was going to raise even more?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
Moore is rationalizing what he knows to be the truth.

What is surprising is that he is 1) aware of the truth and 2) verbalizing it at all.


Moore doesn't care. It will allow him to make another stupid doc piece.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on August 31, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I'm not sure which I find more amusing. That they're giving away tickets or that they're giving them away in a bar. Says a lot about Dem voters.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 06:52:18 PM
I'm not sure which I find more amusing. That they're giving away tickets or that they're giving them away in a bar. Says a lot about Dem voters.


Get them liquored up.....How else are you gonna sit thru sandra fluke. They should also give out condoms. Body condoms. For the people dressed like large vaginas.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2012, 08:11:32 AM
I'm not sure which I find more amusing. That they're giving away tickets or that they're giving them away in a bar. Says a lot about Dem voters.


Get them liquored up.....How else are you gonna sit thru sandra fluke. They should also give out condoms. Body condoms. For the people dressed like large vaginas.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on September 01, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
I refuse to watch one single second of this Democrat freak show.
Democrats disgust me to the core.
They are the manifestion of evil in this nation as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 01, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
I refuse to watch one single second of this Democrat freak show.
Democrats disgust me to the core.
They are the manifestion of evil in this nation as far as I'm concerned.

You are free to not watch but I like to know the enemy. I will be watching. Besides, they are stupid beyond any reasonable expectation so I'm expecting some dumb stuff.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on September 01, 2012, 10:12:29 PM
I refuse to watch one single second of this Democrat freak show.
Democrats disgust me to the core.
They are the manifestion of evil in this nation as far as I'm concerned.

You are free to not watch but I like to know the enemy..............

Oh, I know the enemy alright.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 02, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
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President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.

His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hangar.

The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd.

“Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence.

LINK (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/#ixzz25E3IsLTs)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 02, 2012, 09:58:05 PM
Motor City Hospitatlity, Democrat Style...

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Washington (CNN) – A U-Haul truck loaded with equipment for a Monday event featuring Vice President Joe Biden was stolen in Detroit Sunday, a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service said.

"A U-Haul that we were utilizing was stolen at the Westin Hotel overnight," Ed Donovan told CNN.

Donovan would not specify what equipment was in the U-Haul at the time it was stolen, and added that the theft shouldn't affect the vice president's plans on Monday.

Biden is scheduled to speak at a Labor Day rally in downtown Detroit Monday and march in a parade organized by the Michigan AFL-CIO. Last year President Barack Obama spoke at the Motor City's Labor Day celebration.


LINK (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/02/u-haul-with-equipment-for-biden-event-stolen-in-detroit/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 03, 2012, 01:29:45 AM
President Kick Ass strikes out with the troops... (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence)

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President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.

His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hangar.

The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd.

“Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence.

This is so surprising. I'm shocked, just shocked that a president who would take the extra effort required to send out a form letter (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/02/families-deceased-seals-claim-presidential-condolence-letters-signed-with-auto/) complete with fake signature to the families of fallen SEALs would not be greeted warmly by our soldiers. I mean, who would have guessed, right? Only a total douche would do something like that so I'm sure that President Empty Chair would never do that.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 03, 2012, 07:45:11 AM
President Kick Ass strikes out with the troops... (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence)

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President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.

His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hangar.

The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd.

“Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence.

This is so surprising. I'm shocked, just shocked that a president who would take the extra effort required to send out a form letter (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/02/families-deceased-seals-claim-presidential-condolence-letters-signed-with-auto/) complete with fake signature to the families of fallen SEALs would not be greeted warmly by our soldiers. I mean, who would have guessed, right? Only a total douche would do something like that so I'm sure that President Empty Chair would never do that.


I always thought the Clinton line of "loathing the military" was inexcusable.......but obummer takes it to another level. We can't get rid of this guy quick enough.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on September 03, 2012, 08:03:34 AM
President Kick Ass strikes out with the troops... (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence)

Quote
President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.

His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hangar.

The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd.

“Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence.

This is so surprising. I'm shocked, just shocked that a president who would take the extra effort required to send out a form letter (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/02/families-deceased-seals-claim-presidential-condolence-letters-signed-with-auto/) complete with fake signature to the families of fallen SEALs would not be greeted warmly by our soldiers. I mean, who would have guessed, right? Only a total douche would do something like that so I'm sure that President Empty Chair would never do that.


I always thought the Clinton line of "loathing the military" was inexcusable.......but obummer takes it to another level. We can't get rid of this guy quick enough.



   I'm stocking up on booze and got the day after the election off cause I'm having a going away party for his azz.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 03, 2012, 10:35:03 AM
I'm saving the best stuff for that day in January when he actually goes.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2012, 07:20:22 PM
I'm saving the best stuff for that day in January when he actually goes.

Got that right!

And don't forget, the SCoaMF and his minions will blow every cent in the treasury before he leaves and they'll be more than W's missing off keyboards when this batch of demonic looters clears out!

It will be decades at best before the nation recovers from these psychos!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on September 03, 2012, 09:08:35 PM
I'm saving the best stuff for that day in January when he actually goes.

I keep thinking of Charlton Heston's passion in his voice in Ben Hur when Judah turns against Messala and says, "I tell you, the day Rome falls, there will be a shout of freedom such as the world has never heard before."

Well, I tell you, the day Obama falls, there will be a shout of freedom such as the world has never heard before.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GoN5EPxM4Y8/TJk-2x86w2I/AAAAAAAAAf8/mHw7oQIAmyQ/s320/Ben+Hur.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 05, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
Another achievement (failure to the rest of us) for Obamunism -

Fourth year of decline for US for Global Competetiveness ranking
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/48905756)

"A lack of macroeconomic stability, the business community’s continued mistrust of the government and concerns over its fiscal health were some of the reasons for the downgrade, according to the annual survey."

No chit?!

And the National Debt just went over $16T, what's not to like, eh?

/

http://www.usdebtclock.org/ (http://www.usdebtclock.org/)

Tired of this count up, I like the count down better!

http://www.obamaclock.org/ (http://www.obamaclock.org/)

Faster, damnit, faster!!!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 05, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
They're going to need a bigger bus... (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/shepard-fairey-sentencing-report-683412)

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SEPTEMBER 5--Federal prosecutors want Shepard Fairey, the artist who created the Barack Obama “Hope” poster, to serve time in prison following his misdemeanor conviction for destroying and fabricating documents in connection with a civil lawsuit over the iconic campaign image.

In advance of Friday’s scheduled sentencing of Fairey in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, the Department of Justice has filed a memorandum arguing that a prison term for the 42-year-old artist would be “appropriate.”


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2012, 07:02:21 AM
How big do they get?

 ::bus::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on September 09, 2012, 06:34:39 AM
You guys should go flood Gretawire with your posts. That place is a battleground with some real nasty liberals. I drop a bomb on it every once in a while.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 09, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
Caption contest:

(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120909-biden-cannon.photoblog900.jpg)

I think those two biker dudes have some bad thoughts rolling around in their heads. This pic (http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/09/13763392-biden-cozies-up-to-voters-in-ohio?lite) is from Ohio, or from Oiho as O'Bungo spells it. The Ohio voters have to just love this kind of crap.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 09, 2012, 04:23:55 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2YAAZSCUAAjKiC.jpg)

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on September 09, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
Caption contest:

(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120909-biden-cannon.photoblog900.jpg)



    My wife doesn't understand me!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 09, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
Caption contest:

(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120909-biden-cannon.photoblog900.jpg)

I think those two biker dudes have some bad thoughts rolling around in their heads. This pic (http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/09/13763392-biden-cozies-up-to-voters-in-ohio?lite) is from Ohio, or from Oiho as O'Bungo spells it. The Ohio voters have to just love this kind of crap.



It is a big f@ckin deal.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 09, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120909-biden-cannon.photoblog900.jpg)

Joe - "I'll be honest with ya, I don't know where the f&%$ I am or what they want me to do here, but this is the best feel I've had in years!"

Biker Chic (nervous giggles)

Biker dude on the left - "Kick his dumb ass?"

Biker dude on the right - "F&%$in' A!"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 09, 2012, 10:02:19 PM
LINK (http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/09/rob-reiner-clint-eastwood-rnc-speech/)

Here's some anecdotal feel good for you...

The link is to a nothing story at TMZ wherein noted liberal moron Rob Reiner bitches about Clint Eastwood's little presentation at the RNC.

The feel good stuff is in the comments. Remember the type of person who A) reads crap on this site and B) is actually registered to make comments and can enter a "hate" or a "like" for those comments.

I never would have guessed that the score on the hate/like would turn out the way it did.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 09, 2012, 10:56:51 PM
LINK (http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/09/rob-reiner-clint-eastwood-rnc-speech/)

Here's some anecdotal feel good for you...

The link is to a nothing story at TMZ wherein noted liberal moron Rob Reiner bitches about Clint Eastwood's little presentation at the RNC.

The feel good stuff is in the comments. Remember the type of person who A) reads crap on this site and B) is actually registered to make comments and can enter a "hate" or a "like" for those comments.

I never would have guessed that the score on the hate/like would turn out the way it did.


All this anecdotal evidence the election won't be close.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 10, 2012, 02:50:26 AM
LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/07/why-democrats-including-me-are-abandoning-obama/)

A Democrat tries to explain why he will vote for Romney. Doesn't quite succeed in doing so...he's kinda confused...but he says that he will vote for Romney. It's weird but maybe Romney is making some inroads with the dumbass demo. You have to read the whole thing to see what I'm referring to. Here is the end of the opinion piece...

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The president has a wonderful vision for America, but it's nothing more than a delusion that can't be achieved during a time of record – and climbing – deficits. Our government has built roads, bridges and schools that have educated us.  However, it has also become a bloated money burning machine in desperate need of reform – a word that does not seem to exist in Obama's vocabulary. 

Democrats are jumping ship because President Obama is offering nothing but blame for the previous administration and his own pipe dreams at a time when voters need some real assurance if they’re going to believe the economy can be saved.  Unfortunately, speaking as one of those Democrats, I have little hope that President Obama will change.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2012, 06:48:05 AM
LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/07/why-democrats-including-me-are-abandoning-obama/)

A Democrat tries to explain why he will vote for Romney. Doesn't quite succeed in doing so...he's kinda confused...but he says that he will vote for Romney. It's weird but maybe Romney is making some inroads with the dumbass demo. You have to read the whole thing to see what I'm referring to. Here is the end of the opinion piece...

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The president has a wonderful vision for America, but it's nothing more than a delusion that can't be achieved during a time of record – and climbing – deficits. Our government has built roads, bridges and schools that have educated us.  However, it has also become a bloated money burning machine in desperate need of reform – a word that does not seem to exist in Obama's vocabulary. 

Democrats are jumping ship because President Obama is offering nothing but blame for the previous administration and his own pipe dreams at a time when voters need some real assurance if they’re going to believe the economy can be saved.  Unfortunately, speaking as one of those Democrats, I have little hope that President Obama will change.

Rob Taub is a writer and comedian.

Well, that explains membership in the dumbass demo..

If he is serious about voting out Duh Wun, fine, if he has anybody who'll listen to him, well, that could be open to debate...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2012, 07:00:39 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/)

Duh Wun befuddled by an iPhone!  He's used to CrackBarry...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 10, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/)

Duh Wun befuddled by an iPhone!  He's used to CrackBarry...

 ::hysterical::


Some of the comments are good. I especially liked the one where it stated he also has trouble with the ecomony, etc. ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2012, 08:07:16 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/)

Duh Wun befuddled by an iPhone!  He's used to CrackBarry...

 ::hysterical::


Some of the comments are good. I especially liked the one where it stated he also has trouble with the ecomony, etc. ::hysterical::

If the SCoaMF was a Pubbie the MFM and Hollywood would have buried this clown a long time ago...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 11, 2012, 06:45:29 AM
The race is over, Obama wins...move along, nothing to see here...

http://www.tipponline.com/presidency/news/presidency/race-tightens-as-obama-advantage-narrows-to-2-points (http://www.tipponline.com/presidency/news/presidency/race-tightens-as-obama-advantage-narrows-to-2-points)

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-would-lead-eight-unskewed-data-from-newest-cnn-orc-poll (http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-would-lead-eight-unskewed-data-from-newest-cnn-orc-poll)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-and-romney-close-in-poll-among-likely-voters/2012/09/10/e57318ea-fb79-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-and-romney-close-in-poll-among-likely-voters/2012/09/10/e57318ea-fb79-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_print.html)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll)

Oh, but I guess nobody, not even the best polls, get it right until very late in the contest...

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/ (http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/)

And the Big Lie being perpetrated by the Democrat-Media Complex at present does look eerily similar to 1980 and 1984 (the 1984 BS was a hoot, everybody I knew just knew that was a load of crap!)...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EzNTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CIMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6849%2C2861380 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EzNTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CIMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6849%2C2861380)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 11, 2012, 11:06:55 AM
There was great hand-wringing and lamentations over at the FReepers yesterday as several of the more gullible (mostly anti-Romney folks) lapped up every bit of this dreck. Fortunately Rush and several others patiently pointed out how piss-poor the lamestream has been at accurately monitoring the true conditions on the ground and how miserably biased in favor of the death of our country they are.

Screw them - I fight for freedom and take no prisoners!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on September 11, 2012, 11:14:59 AM
There was great hand-wringing and lamentations over at the FReepers yesterday as several of the more gullible (mostly anti-Romney folks) lapped up every bit of this dreck. Fortunately Rush and several others patiently pointed out how piss-poor the lamestream has been at accurately monitoring the true conditions on the ground and how miserably biased in favor of the death of our country they are.

Screw them - I fight for freedom and take no prisoners!

I am one of those who, while knowing it's push-polling, nevertheless was put into a very foul mood by it all. It's psyops for sure, and the timing is what makes it so. Immediately following yet another dismal jobs report, a circus sideshow at their convention, and all the polls show Obama running away with it? It's meant to create a profound sense of cognitive dissonance in people who think all those things should hurt a candidate.

Mark Levin accurately described why people become despondent even while knowing it's mostly deliberate psyops: it's because we all know this election is it. The future of this country will be decided by this election. The stakes are so high, our ability to afford missteps is close to zero. I think the plausibility factor also comes into play. You hear poll numbers like this and ask yourself "Are there really that many abject idiots out there?" And then you immediately think to yourself "Yeah, probably."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 11, 2012, 11:24:18 AM
In my quest to alarm and irritate my enemies I choose to frame it thusly:

"In order for good to triumph over evil, good must be very, very good"

It accomplishes two things, it acknowledges that evil is very powerful and not to be taken lightly. And it declares unambiguously that I consider them not only my enemy but an evil threat. As in to be stopped at any cost.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 11, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
I've just about had my fill of politics!  Politics and politicians are what sent us down the river of death and destruction...thinking political outcomes no matter how favorable can restore sanity, repair/replace/end corrupt and dysfunctional bureaucracies and institutions...that peaceful means no matter how well intentioned have a snowball's chance in hell of achieving squat....

I'm tired of the phony war and the avoidance of reality...

Some days I want to give them all exactly what they deserve...now...not later...

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 11, 2012, 04:05:10 PM
You hear poll numbers like this and ask yourself "Are there really that many abject idiots out there?" And then you immediately think to yourself "Yeah, probably."

I find solace in the strangest places.

This afternoon I clicked on the headline at Drudge about the islamofascists storming the US embassy in Egypt. If you are aware of the story that's fine...what interested me were the Facebook comments that followed. Bear in mind that this is in USA Today (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/09/11/cairo-us-embassy-protesters-prophet-mohammad/70000126/1#.UE-eZUIhON1)...not exactly a conservative outlet. Far from it...it tends to represent the kind of yahoos who claim to be in the middle.

What I find stunning is the number of comments that are anti-BO. It's huge. It's a minimum of eight or nine to one blaming BO for the arab spring for the rise of the muslim brotherhood...for financing it and lending material support for it...it goes on and on. Not only do these commenters aggressively blame and condemn BO for what is going on in the middle east but they also seem to be reasonably well informed as to how this mess all came about.

Here is an example from the article. I will highlight the BO supporters...it's easier because they are so few...

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Jose Melendez ·  Top Commenter
So much for Obama's "democracy" in Egypt.
Reply · 211 · Like · Follow Post · 2 hours ago

Kate Perspicacious ·  Top Commenter
This has nothing to do with Obama. The eqyption people rose up and took their country. Stop being a freak and thinking everything that happens in the world is relevant to the US president.
Reply · 23 · Like · about an hour ago

Daniel Cygrymus ·  Top Commenter · Canevin Catholic
Kate Perspicacious, are you actually suggesting they did it on their own?
Reply · 120 · Like · about an hour ago

Vic Campbell · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter · Milton, Florida
He implicitly supported the revolution knowing that radical muslims would likely gain control. It is essentially, Jimmy Carter II only all of Islam now and not just Iran.
Reply · 175 · Like · about an hour ago

Chaiya Eitan · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious BHO supported the overthrow of Mubarak. But he said nothing in 2009 when Iranians were being shot at in the streets while demonstrating against the regime.
Reply · 22 · Like · 2 hours ago

Abe Froman ·  Top Commenter · Las Vegas, Nevada
How did you manage to place the blame on Obama for this one? Is Arab Spring really an Obama job?
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Chipp H Williams ·  Top Commenter · Lynwood Senior High School WA
Pull your head out of your--- and pay attention. We are at more risk now than ever.
Reply · 10 · Like · about an hour ago

Richard Platt ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious Wake up fool, this is just another sign that Obama has lost both the respect and fear of hostile nations. Go peddle that crap to your left wing buddies.
Reply · 24 · Like · about an hour ago

Bob Guevara ·  Top Commenter · Camarillo, California
Do you have an Obama bumper sticker across your forehead?
Reply · 13 · Like · about an hour ago

John Barnett ·  Top Commenter · Virginia State University
Kate Perspicacious, why not Kate, all you liberals felt every problem in America was relevant to GWB. Please, check both sides of your mouth.
Reply · 17 · Like · about an hour ago

Joe Devlin ·  Top Commenter · Community College of the Air Force
Abe Froman who funneled all that cash to the Muslim Brotherhood without asking questions ? I guess it was Bush's fault.
Reply · 20 · Like · about an hour ago

Rodric Reese ·  Top Commenter
kate is demented.
Reply · 9 · Like · about an hour ago

Trevor White ·  Top Commenter · Towson University
Kate, this wouldn't be happening if Obama hadn't thrown Hosni Mubarak under the subway. Subway? Yeah...there isn't any more room left under the bus.

Mubarak may not have been the most democratic ruler in the Middle East, but he at LEAST was on good terms with the US and Israel. Now we've got the Muslim Brotherhood taking over the place, and looky looky what we get...our embassy stormed and our flag torn down.

This is Tehran 1979 all over again. Who says Jimmy Carter isn't alive and well and living at 16th and Penn? We're STILL paying for Carter's cluster-fumble in Iran, and we're going to be paying for Obama's foul-up in Egypt for a long time, too. And yes, it IS his foul-up.
Reply · 24 · Like · about an hour ago

Steven Hagman ·  Top Commenter · Senior Trial Attorney (Retired) at Attorney at Law
Why? The embassy is basically US soil. Since it is US Soil, we allow all the illegal immigrants in the USA now with open arms...whats the difference???
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

William Doyle ·  Top Commenter · Florida Atlantic University
Interestingly, the article quotes the embassy saying no staff was even there. Maybe they got a memo about the protests and decided to leave it all behind. Maybe it was planned. Maybe she's born with it, Maybe it's Maybelline.
Reply · 3 · Like · about an hour ago

Charlie Wibel ·  Top Commenter · NYU
Kate: I guess you do not understand that the Embassy facilites are sovereign American territory, so these people have invaded the US. How about we round up a bunch of like mided folks and place a Black Flag on top the roof of where you live. fear not flags will go on top of caves and other Occupy type structures.
Reply · 6 · Like · about an hour ago

Chaiya Eitan · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter
And they are our neighbors!
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Darryl Cunningham ·  Top Commenter
I used to think Obama was incompetent. But now, I'm convinced he just hates America.
Reply · 16 · Like · about an hour ago

Darryl Cunningham ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious - You have access to the internet. There's no excuse for you posting like you haven't a clue to the news. Obama's fingerprints are all over the Arab Spring.
Reply · 11 · Like · about an hour ago

John P Center ·  Top Commenter · Columbia College Chicago
Kate Perspicacious Mubarck would have prevented this. obama lost egypt the same way carter lost iran
Reply · 8 · Like · about an hour ago

Joe Devlin ·  Top Commenter · Community College of the Air Force
This just in...Obama won't meet with Netanyahu when he is in New York. See a trend here ?
Reply · 15 · Like · about an hour ago

Bob Churchill ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious Stop being a blithering idiot. It was Obama who completely backed this deployable action.
Reply · 11 · Like · about an hour ago

Ted Peters ·  Top Commenter · Northville, Michigan
I'm about as anti-Obama as an reasonable person can be (on the basis of economic policies), but I don't see any reason to fault him for this one. A huge portion of the Islamic world is simply 1000 years behind the level of human consciousness we have achieved in the West. Having them repressed by tyrants was never going to change this. We really need to let them work it out by themselves.
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

George Duane ·  Top Commenter · President and CEO at Cornerstone Technology Consulting, Inc.
And continues to give our money to this lame country!
Reply · 3 · Like · about an hour ago

Ron Rowan · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter · Gardena Senior High
It's Bushes fault!
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Darryl Cunningham ·  Top Commenter
Ted Peters - You need to do your research, then. Obama was publicly head cheerleader, and privately providing finances, resources and help.
Reply · 9 · Like · about an hour ago

Joel Johnston · Park University
No Kate, Obama is all about appeasement. Check out Chamberlain in WWII signing a treaty with "Mr. Hitler". Same damn thing, same damn eventual results.
Reply · 6 · Like · about an hour ago

Charles Aronowitz ·  Top Commenter · Brooklyn Law School
Kate Perspicacious It has everything to do with Obama. His policies precipitated this.
Reply · 5 · Like · about an hour ago

Terry Knows Moore ·  Top Commenter · Utep
Hey dummy.........Obama sent the people in to take Egypt..brotherhood...and is sending 60billion dollars a month to support the radicals...so yes Obama is doing this.
Reply · 5 · Like · about an hour ago

Robert Brooks ·  Top Commenter · Rocket Scientist at NASA/JSC
Vic Campbell You foolish person... Do you think presidents make decisions? How childish and ignorant. Much like the rest of the yahoos on here you haven't a clue about anything. Your opinion is provided to you via TV and you suck it up like the baby intellect you are. How droll!
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

David Morris ·  Top Commenter · Seattle, Washington
Kate Perspicacious, Soetoro is a Dictator, he said he doesn't need Congress to go to War, that is Treason! He said he would side with Muslims, not Americans! Look it up!
Reply · 6 · Like · about an hour ago

William Turner ·  Top Commenter
The US State Department played an active role in this "Arab Spring." They hosted a "How to have a revolution" symposium where many of the "youth" who kicked off these revolutions learned how to foment riots, use the media, keep up communications as government tried to shut them down, etc. What they didn't tell those youngsters was how to form a power base and hang onto it against long established, less idealistic and more ruthless power groups in their respective countries. Since that was a nearly impossible task, small wonder they didn't tell them. Now reasonably friendly or at least contained dictators have been replaced with such peaceful and delightful people who would grovel at our feet for giving them freedom and Democracy. Oh wait...
Reply · 4 · Like · about an hour ago

Harry Lawrence · La Porte High School
Have you been asleep for the past year? The President and the Secretary of State both backed the "Arab Spring" and this is what happens. They did not remain neutral as they should, and they picked sides. This is what happens when you support an uprising without thinking it through.
Reply · 6 · Like · about an hour ago

Dick Burkel · Univ. of Notre Dame
Kate Perspicacious It's the host government's responsibility to provide security for embassies and personnel. If the embassy knew something was going to happen then the Egyptian government did also. The fact that they did nothing to stop it indicates that they approved it. That indicates that Obama's reaching out to the Islamists was a huge failure therefore this has everything to do with Obama's failed foreign policy.
Reply · 4 · Like · about an hour ago

Brian Barber · Hendersonville, North Carolina
Kate PerspicaciousI assume that your profile pic is actually you at this moment. The reality is that Obummer DID choose sides in this Egyptian fiasco (which is understandable) and based his decisions on political correctness which in due course led to a larger problem which we see evidenced today (which is not understandable). I understand Obama is the god you serve...but your god has failed. I'm not a Romney fan but we need a grown up in the White house. NOW.
Reply · 3 · Like · about an hour ago

Ray Sexauer ·  Top Commenter
Oh really kate? Are you seriously that stupid? Who put the muslim brotherhood in charge? Who led the overthrow of the government? Christ you libs are dumb.
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Joel Lovelace ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious - nice picture of you crying. Sums you up perfectly.
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Rick Moss ·  Top Commenter · US Army Special Forces charm school
Sadly, you know nothing of the timeline. Obama and the DNC had operatives working and teaching the students and radicals who led the revolution! Qit drinking the koolAid!!!
Reply · 3 · Like · about an hour ago

Jason Ruda ·  Top Commenter
lol - nothing ever has anything to do with obama, but everything was Bush's fault - lolololol @ u lib dopes
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Rob Harrison ·  Top Commenter
Daniel Cygrymus, Yes she is that naive, she doesn't think Obama had a hand in it. She is wrong, Obama failed to back the Egyptian president and that encouraged the Brotherhood of Muslims to go after the man and the country. We now have another enemy in the middle east, one we had enjoyed a sense of cooperation with for 30 years. Same thing in Libya, Obama sent troops to oust a man we could somewhat have peace with and installed the Brotherhood of Muslims. The reason he has not marched into Syria is simple, they already stand against us so there is no need for change. He can live with whoever comes out of top there because they are both enemies to the U.S. At this very moment Obama is busy trying to get authorization to give Egypt some of our best military equipment, knowing they are now more like an enemy than a friend. it will not be much longer, we will have a different president. No way Obama is going to win and it will not be as close as these people tell you it will be.
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Christopher Bonante ·  Top Commenter · Owner at Self
Kate you are FOS! Obama forced out Mubarack remember? You obama sheep are a joke.
Reply · 1 · Like · about an hour ago

Mo Long
Trevor White you wrote the words right out of my mouth. I remember watching every night on t.v. the 444 days. No, nothing has gotten better only worse. BTW, I like your comment about the subway.
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Jose Melendez ·  Top Commenter
Obama pulled a "Carter"" on Mubarack and Egypt
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Michael Gregorek · Adjunct Professor at City College of New York
Wasn't the idea of replacing Bush with Obama that the world was going to love us and begin behaving?
Reply · 4 · Like · about an hour ago

Ron Shepard ·  Top Commenter · Atlanta, Georgia
Kate - Shut your uninformed pie-hole! OBAMA publically supported/s the muslim brotherhood that 'rose up and took their country'. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-engineered-arab-spring-the-ngo-raids-in-egypt/ (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-engineered-arab-spring-the-ngo-raids-in-egypt/)

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-ties-to-the-muslim-brotherhood/ (http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-ties-to-the-muslim-brotherhood/)
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Margaret Doocey ·  Top Commenter
Vic Campbell Re: "He implicitly supported the revolution knowing that radical muslims would likely gain control. It is essentially, Jimmy Carter II only all of Islam now and not just Iran."

Mainly, I agree w/your summation. However, Obama EXplicitly agitated for the so called "Arab Spring". First trip out of the White House as POTUS was to Cairo to stump for the Muslim Brotherhood. Now that Obama's friend Morsi is crucifying (yes, crucifying) any and all dissidents in Cairo's central public square (w/especial vengeance for the Christian Copts) one would think that Obama would rescind his warm welcome to the White House this month. He's not only planning to welcome Morsi, but has just today refused to see Netanyahu. I wish the American public would demand Obama's impeachment.
Reply · 2 · Like · about an hour ago

Christopher Bonante ·  Top Commenter · Owner at Self
Kate - how much are you being paid to troll for obama?
Reply · 1 · Like · about an hour ago

Margaret Doocey ·  Top Commenter
Ted Peters You should be holding Obama accountable for his major support of the "Arab Spring". Why? Read my comment directly above ^
Reply · 1 · Like · about an hour ago

Rube Schainen ·  Top Commenter · Eugene, Oregon
What happened in Iran Kate? The people wanted freedom, but Obama did nothing to help them. Obama stands for Communism and destruction of the American way. He encourages foreign countries to hate America so he can bring America to its knees. Don't be fooled by his charm. He is the devil in disguise!!
Reply · 1 · Like · about an hour ago

Stan Ono · Aiea High School
You need more knowledge. The Egypt spring is due to our foreign policies. Everything that happens in the world politically is by the US and Europe. The US has the best propaganda machine in the world. We invented the art of spin. You just cant handle the truth!.
Reply · Like · about an hour ago

Victor Morales ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious ROFL this has EVERYTHING to do with Obama, he encouraged this. You reap what you Sow.
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Dan Stetson ·  Top Commenter · Humboldt State University
Well that is only partly true. This administration supported and encouraged it and threw Mubarak who had maintained peace and stability for 30 years -- dictator though he was -- under the bus. True enough, it might not have made any difference and there are always unintended consequences. But there is no way in can be regarded as a foreign policy success.
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Chris Grant Kurowicki ·  Top Commenter · Webmaster at Michigan Association of Teacher Educators
Kate Perspicacious Well, actually it does. After all, he won a nobel prize for what he would surely do to create peace between us and these populations, remember?
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Fred Clemens ·  Top Commenter · Drexel University
Kate, just ignore these anti-Obama blowhards. They take every opportunity they can to denegrate him irrespective of the facts in the story. This was a demonstration against the US for suppposedly sponsoring or condoning an anti Muhammed film. No different from the attacks on us in Afghanistan following the accidental burning of some Qurans. These muslim radicals have no outlet for their testosterone, so for the slightest provocation they attack the West in some form or fashion. They could care less who was the POTUS - they hate all Americans.
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Karen Norton ·  Top Commenter · University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Kate Perspicacious Yes it does have to do with Obama's weakness in making difficult decisions. He is a weak and incompetent leader.
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Trajan Long ·  Top Commenter · UC Berkeley
Kate Perspicacious You could not be more wrong. Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood with money and advisors. He publicly denounced Sadat, our friend. This is the result. The same thing in Libya BTW, in case you didn't bother to check.
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John Horton ·  Top Commenter · Purdue University
It must be working! Obama gave them 5 BILLION DOLLARS. GREAT!
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Kelli Erin McKinney ·  Top Commenter · Chaparral
He was preaching away about support of the Arab Spring. Somewhere, sometime, you will realize Obama has an influence on worldwide politics. He is the leader of the free world, and he gave his blessing on the uprising. Same thing in Syria. Had it gone well, you would mark that up along his single handed killing of Osama Bin Laden. But, once again. you are forced to defend the indefensible.
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Christopher Bonante ·  Top Commenter · Owner at Self
Fred - I won't only denigrate obama - I will publicly mock and ricule him and his stupid supporters who worship him as a Messiah. Both he and they are a sad lot of brain dead dolts who are proven wrong over and over and over and over. This is no different. Obama should not be running for re-election - he should be running away with his head in shame from angry taxpayers for what he has done.
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Robert Garnsey ·  Top Commenter · L.A. City College
Kate Perspicacious
It does have everything to do with this administration...It supports these people, and it back fired on them.
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Jose Melendez ·  Top Commenter
Robert Garnsey - No, it didn't back fire on them. This was Obama's plan all along - establish Islamic theocracies in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Algeria, Jordan, Iraq and Morocco.
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Patrick Stauber ·  Top Commenter · Bonham, Texas
Kate Perspicacious - This is definitely the result of Obama's foreign policy as it relates to Egypt. He supported the overthrow of the previous government which was pro-US and with the knowledge that the benefactors would be those that are currently in control.
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Brian Farrell ·  Top Commenter · Guy trying to keep the ocean at bay with a push broom at Cynisism and Tired of political correctness University
How about this.Stop buying all together from the middle east and really ramp up drilling in Mexico and South America.Start drilling more here as well as fracking.Boot out the current regime and replace them with people with common sense.I know it's pie in the sky but I can dream.
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Fred Clemens ·  Top Commenter · Drexel University
Christopher Bonante - What an intelligent and thoughtful response which has nothing to do with the story, nor do your comments have any factual basis. As I said to Kate, ignore the anti-Obama blowhards.
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Maria A. Scheer ·  Top Commenter
We are NOT the world's police.
Let them resolve their own problems.
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Norman N Hendrickson · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious your avatar is very apt for a cry-baby lib of no real world experience or knowledge. Obama's ineptitude has lead to emboldened terrorists, and a Muslim Brotherhood that feels safe in attacking us and our embassy. I bet you would also blame us and our evil nation were they to attack us again?
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Don Barrett
Wrong Kate... please get a clue.
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Matt Warhola
The president's administration, the State Dept./Mrs. Clinton and all the media synchophants explicitly told us that the Muslim Brotherhood was a "largely secular" group.
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Tony Barcellona ·  Top Commenter · Delgado Community College
Kate Perspicacious I'm surprised that you don't blame Bush for Egypt's hatered of USA. I guess you forgot about Oblamer sending in air strikes to help liberate these animals.
NObama
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John Kothanek ·  Top Commenter
I guess Kate like many liberals suffers from the let's blame Bush for everything and excuse Obama for everything disease. The chief symptom is blaming Bush for everything no matter how far removed from it that he is and then excusing Obama from all blame no matter how directly linked to it he is. It often accompanies an uncontrollable urge to give Obama credit for everything and to believe everything he says no matter how illogical. The CDC is working on a cure. Right now the best cure for the disease is to vote once in November for Romney and helping to ensure Obama loses this election.

The best one so far is: Obama failed at making the economy better because Bush all by himself messed it up so bad- BUT now that it is even worse Obama will suddenly be able to fix it if he gets 4 more yrs. Silly Liberals...
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Laura Schwartz ·  Top Commenter
What are you gonna do Kate when you have to defend yourself? Are you going to submit or fight? I'm guessing submit.
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Troy Tolkinen ·  Top Commenter · Woodbury Senior High School
This has everything to do with Obama. It was his administration that asked Mubarack to leave and put pressure on him. They supported the Muslim Brotherhood and Penetta even tried to sell us that they were 'moderates'. Ringing any bells Kate?
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Robert Northrop ·  Top Commenter
Kate, please...you're not getting the news or the truth. The take down in Egypt has Obama's fingerprints all over it....google Bill Ayers, Code Pink, Days of Rage and Cairo. Bill Ayers and company are Obama's buds.
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Ed Nolan ·  Top Commenter · Sr. Flunkie at Very Important Place
Kate Perspicacious - obama did NOTHING to help Mubarak. Mubarak may not have been perfect but at least he kept the muslim WACKOS out of the Govt. So YES it is obama's fault.
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Barbara Wolff ·  Top Commenter · Delran, New Jersey
Obama has caused most of this.
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John Rourke ·  Top Commenter · Havard on the highway--no not the law school.
Are you that damn stupid? This so called Arab Spring is a death to any chance we had at peace. Go and Drink some bleach to get rid of the Kool-Aid.
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Cathy Lee ·  Top Commenter · Tampa, Florida
Obama condones the Muslim Brotherhood. Even though they are on the watch list of the FBI Go figure. If not to blame Obama who should we.
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Jared Matthews ·  Top Commenter · Baylor University
Kate Perspicacious ... Have you been asleep for the past 3 years? The OBAMA administration does have everything to do with this, the did not support Mubarak, and supported his ouster. YOU VEGETABLE>!!!!
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John Owens · Mate at Hilda Helmken
Do you realloy believe he wanted Egypt to Democratize? Everything is going according to his master plan. To down size America.
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Scott Feichtinger ·  Top Commenter · Internet/Fleet Manager at Earnhardt Kia
We absolutely had the power to support Hosni Mubarak a longtime ally and keep him in power. America would have been safer and so would the middle east had we intervened. Now we have them scaling our embassy walls and we are apologiseing to them for " hurting thier feelings" How low will we go? How far will we fall, before we elect a president that actually watches out for the interests of the U.S. and her citizens
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Jose Melendez ·  Top Commenter
Jimmy Carter is smiling. He only turned Iran over to the Islamists - Obama has turned Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Iraq and Syria over to them.
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Leonard Webber ·  Top Commenter · Los Angeles Comm. College; LaVerne Univirisity
Your kind of thinking ONLY applies when a democrat is in the Oval Office. When there is a republician sitting there, all people like you can do is spew hate. What a joke !
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Dennis Vest ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious Americans have a longer memory than that Kate! We clearly remember Obama touting a new era in the Middle East, with "democracy" sprouting up across the region. President Mubarak was not good but what has replaced him is tenfold worse! Mubarak kept the peace with Israel for over 30+ years and helped kept peace in the region. They were our biggest ally after Israel. Now they are our enemy! Obama has pulled a Carter(just as carter forced out the Shah and the evil Ayatollah Khomeini replaced him)...
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John Bowers ·  Top Commenter · FCHS
Well the dumb A$$ egged them on, telling them to overthrow Maubarac, and you can bet Hillary gave them some of Obumblers stash.
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Jesher Spelling · Subscribe ·  Top Commenter
Kate Perspicacious Him and Hillary gave Hezbollah a BILLION dollars this year - a hardcore terrorist organization - I guess they didn't cover that on MSNBC or the VIew - you may have missed it.
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Thomas Callahan · Radiologist at Lubbock Diagnostic Radiology
Kate Perspicacious , Egyptian is the correct spelling. Aside from that, I have to agree. Not sure what he did nor could have done regarding Egypt. When you have some thought on your mind, it's easy to apply that thought to all happenings. Like people blaming mankind's role in climate change to every single weather event. Hopefully, we can overcome this tendency and be objective as a society.
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Jeannine Richardson ·  Top Commenter · NHTI
UH - YEAH It is. Do you actually believe these people were magically able to toss out Mubarak on their own? Kill Qaudaffi without help?
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Jose Melendez ·  Top Commenter
John Bowers - Hillary was on a apologizing tour in Egypt while Mubarack was being overthrown.
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Andrew Whitehead ·  Top Commenter · Tidewater Community College
Kate Perspicacious -

Do you really think that our current administration played no part in the supposed "spontaneous revolution"?

If so, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. No, it ain't cheap but maybe you can get Obama to stroke you a check?
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Lisa Carr ·  Top Commenter
Fred Clemens - Yes, just ignore the facts and hide your head in the sand, right? When Obama supported the overthrow of Mubarak, you don't think that nothing was going to happen? When the Muslim Brotherhood was waiting to take over? Your comments are so ignorant and blind, it's hard to even know where to begin.
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Mike Alan ·  Top Commenter
Nothing to do with Obama? How about He immediately threw Mubarak under the bus? How about trying to protect your ally a little? Obama has to be thrilled by this turn of events.
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So take heart...if the usually middle of the road and mostly uninformed readers of USA Today can say all of this with almost no pushback then all is not lost.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 11, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
You hear poll numbers like this and ask yourself "Are there really that many abject idiots out there?" And then you immediately think to yourself "Yeah, probably."

There are indeed.  Many of them work for our State Dept.  With a nod to trap's post about the 'slims tearing down our flag at the Cairo embassy, I give you .....

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6732.new.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6732.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 11, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Well, the USA today audience certainly pulled no punches. When I read stuff like this, I begin to think 8 point romney win. I remember the polls showing Reagan to fall in defeat......and we know how that turned out.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 11, 2012, 09:01:25 PM
Well, one caveat about those comments...

...it occurred to me later in the day that most of those comments could be attributed to the link from Drudge. The Drudge readership has a reputation for being more right of center.

That said, that one comment thread had almost no push back from the left. The left usually will watch stuff like this and artificially "flood the zone" in an attempt to dominate the conversation. Plus the left has a reputation for being the more dominant demographic on the internet...don't know if that's true or not but the reputation is what it is.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 12, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
Just taking a look at the RCP state polling numbers... (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/)

If you assume that BO is in trouble anywhere that he is below 50% (even where he leads) then the states where he isn't a lock to win could include:

Florida (48%)
Ohio (47%)
Virginia (44%)
Arizona (44%)
North Carolina (43%)
New Mexico (45%)

Polls on Sept. 10th & 11th.

Personally, I don't think that the "undecideds" will break for BO. I think they will wait until the last week and break for Romney. They are just waiting until the very end to commit because they are basically worthless and weak.

Something to think about.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2012, 07:48:49 AM
As big an eff-up as Obama is, as effed up as the economy is, as effed up our foreign policy is, as effed up our fiscal house is, as effed up EVERYTHING Obama touches is...I am dumbstruck that any state has Obama polling above 40%...so either the polls are suspect, or those being polled are lying their asses off...or there really is an enormous block of people in the nation who are terminally stupid...or a combination of all three, with the latter comprising the largest and most troubling segement.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 12, 2012, 09:17:00 AM


I think the country is full of people whose entire life has been to live so as not to offend anyone...they've convinced themselves that's "being reasonable".  I know people like that.  If I say BO did this or that stupid thing they try to tell me "well, he had this or that problem" from other people trying to hinder him and I just don't know how these things work. They're not necessarily liberal--often times they just want to appear above politics and labels. They try to come off as more understanding than me--that they're giving the guy a chance.   How will they vote? I don't know.  Most I know will probably vote for Romney because they can't avoid how much he's messed up everything. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2012, 11:57:15 AM
Those people quite possibly drive me more into rage than outright lefties...at least the outright lefty either is a truly ignorant wretch (who needs to be culled just to save the gene pool) or an agent provacateur (in which case they need to be culled to save all of humanity)...the person who should no better but bends over backwards to appease people they should not be appeasing or giving ANYTHING to?

 ::gaah::

It's easy to be a coward when it comes to politics and in relative peace...but the Great Reckoning we are headed for will once and for all force the fence-sitters to pick a side, pick wrong, and pay the price.

I am plumb out of sympathy for fools of any stripe...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on September 12, 2012, 05:18:13 PM
It is my personal belief that this is the third possibility you posit. The left has dominated education long enough to have about half of the electorate too stupid to live. On some days I think we are too far gone, the patient is terminal, and we might need to find another place to live. Then on days like today, I feel we need to go nuclear and fight hard for our rights, fight hard to educate, and fight for our finances!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 15, 2012, 09:48:23 PM
LINK (http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obama-delusion-cont_652392.html?nopager=1)

Should have been titled, "The Narcissist Way."

Quote
Lewis writes as though he’s never read a presidential biography or a White House memoir; and his White House handlers were betting, I suppose, that his readers haven’t either. Certainly the media figures who helped him publicize his gee-whiz thesis, interviewers like Gross and Rachel Maddow (was Charlie Rose sick last week?), were enthralled. The president’s frustration with a stubborn opposition, his difficulty in keeping fresh and informed by outside advice, his habits of leisure (he works out a lot—a lot), the variety of tasks he’s asked to perform, the solace he takes from family life—all appear to the Delusionist to be new and unexpected in the annals of presidential leadership.

At a length of 13,000 words, “Obama’s Way” eventually offers a few items of interest. The president has begun to worry that people find him cold. He hastens to assure Lewis, in answer to a question Lewis didn’t ask, that this seeming defect is in fact a virtue. He’s no good, he says, at “faking emotion,” not realizing that this implies he has little emotion to fake.

He clings to his belief in his oratorical powers. “My best speeches are when I know that what I’m saying is true in a fundamental way. People find their strength in different places. That’s where I’m strong,” he says, failing to mention that he’s given a single moving speech (in honor of Gabby Giffords) among hundreds of speeches over the course of his term.

There’s something touching as well as creepy in the Delusion as it fades. Lewis’s article can be seen as one final effort to recapture the magic, to reinflate the soufflé long after it went pfft. It’s not Michael Lewis’s fault, it’s not even the fault of the White House staff, that the material just isn’t there.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2012, 12:13:06 AM
(http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Democrat_Rights_1961_2012.png)

(http://paulmarcelrene.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/moderate-muslims-flag-burning.jpg)
"You didn't burn that flag. You had help."


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on September 16, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
I'm always amazed at their ability to quickly procure American flags for burning. There must be a thriving street kiosk industry there, because you never know when you might be in the mood for a little impromptu flag burning.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 16, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
You know...I thought that it was pretty pathetic when I heard the wookie squawk the other day that every family should avoid going out for pizza and instead donate the money not spent on pizza to BO's campaign.

I thought at the time that that was really scraping the bottom of the barrel...that BO's shameless money grubbing fundraising just couldn't get any lower. I mean...we had already seen the BO wedding gift registry, the stupid ass "win a dream date" with BO stunts, etc. There was just NO WAY that they could get any lower...any more stupid or ridiculous.

I

was

wrong...

How pathetic have things gotten? This pathetic. (yes, this is actually for real.) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8nLVNQxtDM#ws)

I emphatically recommend going to the youtube page and reading the comments.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 16, 2012, 01:40:01 AM

If recollection serves, Bill Gates was apolitical until big
Billy Clinton wanted some and was declined.  That's when
the Justice Dept. started investigating Microsoft.

Gates must be at least feeling some small warm glow upon
returning the love.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 16, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
Quote
He clings to his belief in his oratorical powers. “My best speeches are when I know that what I’m saying is true in a fundamental way. People find their strength in different places. That’s where I’m strong,” he says, failing to mention that he’s given a single moving speech (in honor of Gabby Giffords) among hundreds of speeches over the course of his term.

Translation: He believes his own crap.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 16, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
You know...I thought that it was pretty pathetic when I heard the wookie squawk the other day that every family should avoid going out for pizza and instead donate the money not spent on pizza to BO's campaign.

I thought at the time that that was really scraping the bottom of the barrel...that BO's shameless money grubbing fundraising just couldn't get any lower. I mean...we had already seen the BO wedding gift registry, the stupid ass "win a dream date" with BO stunts, etc. There was just NO WAY that they could get any lower...any more stupid or ridiculous.

I

was

wrong...



I emphatically recommend going to the youtube page and reading the comments.

Viewed, down-dinged, and snarky comment added  ::thumbsup::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on September 16, 2012, 11:19:59 PM
Quote
He clings to his belief in his oratorical powers. “My best speeches are when I know that what I’m saying is true in a fundamental way. People find their strength in different places. That’s where I’m strong,” he says, failing to mention that he’s given a single moving speech (in honor of Gabby Giffords) among hundreds of speeches over the course of his term.

Translation: He believes his own crap.

I view this more as a confession that he does have some speaches in which even HE does  not believe his own crap.  Obviously. I knew there could not be even ONE person in America who bought anything he said.....not even HIM!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 20, 2012, 12:58:56 AM
Is this (http://memegenerator.net/Jim-Messina) funny?

Oh, yeah.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 20, 2012, 07:05:40 AM
Is this (http://memegenerator.net/Jim-Messina) funny?

Oh, yeah.

Damn, these are good!

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27012625.jpg)
 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 20, 2012, 02:34:00 PM
Quote
He clings to his belief in his oratorical powers. “My best speeches are when I know that what I’m saying is true in a fundamental way. People find their strength in different places. That’s where I’m strong,” he says, failing to mention that he’s given a single moving speech (in honor of Gabby Giffords) among hundreds of speeches over the course of his term.

Translation: He believes his own crap.

Scary thought.

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Obama-Chicago-course-shadow-e1348033838345-620x294.jpg)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obamas-favorite-course-to-teach-at-the-university-of-chicago-revealed/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obamas-favorite-course-to-teach-at-the-university-of-chicago-revealed/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 20, 2012, 03:08:26 PM

He didn't write that.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 20, 2012, 04:30:24 PM

He didn't write that.


and he couldn't read it outloud either...

can you imagine having to sit in a classroom for 50 minutes with that man?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 20, 2012, 04:31:30 PM

He didn't write that.


and he couldn't read it outloud either...

can you imagine having to sit in a classroom for 50 minutes with that man?

Only if under the influence of pot......wait a munute.....
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on September 21, 2012, 09:44:39 AM

He didn't write that.


and he couldn't read it outloud either...

can you imagine having to sit in a classroom for 50 minutes with that man?

Base on feedback from his students during the second and third years that he taught this course they wouldn't want to take it again under him . He wasn't as popular as we've been led to believe by the media and his other propagandists .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 21, 2012, 10:31:01 AM

He didn't write that.


and he couldn't read it outloud either...

can you imagine having to sit in a classroom for 50 minutes with that man?

Base on feedback from his students during the second and third years that he taught this course they wouldn't want to take it again under him . He wasn't as popular as we've been led to believe by the media and his other propagandists .

heh, I know I read at least one article that claimed he was very popular...but the liberal students that go there wouldn't contradict that...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on September 21, 2012, 03:49:25 PM

He didn't write that.


and he couldn't read it outloud either...

can you imagine having to sit in a classroom for 50 minutes with that man?

Base on feedback from his students during the second and third years that he taught this course they wouldn't want to take it again under him . He wasn't as popular as we've been led to believe by the media and his other propagandists .

heh, I know I read at least one article that claimed he was very popular...but the liberal students that go there wouldn't contradict that...

There are some details on that in a long expose' in The Washington Examiner entitled "The Real Barack Obama" . Someone with better skills than mine can put up the link . It should be required reading .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 21, 2012, 04:37:52 PM

The Obama you don't know

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama#.UFtRnNU2Rqp (http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama#.UFtRnNU2Rqp)

  Introduction: The Obama you don't know
  
    Chapter I: A childhood of privilege, not hardship
    Chapter II: The myth of the 'rock-star professor'
    Chapter III: The 1997 speech that launched Obama
    Chapter IV: For the slumlord's defense, Barack Obama, Esq.
    Chapter V: Obama's toughest critics on the Left
    Chapter VI: The poor people Obama left behind
    Chapter VII: The myth of Obama as state Senate reformer
    Chapter VIII: Obama's state pension scheme
    Chapter IX: The Arab-American network behind Obama
    Chapter X: Obama brings Chicago politics to Washington

ETA: This is a fantastic MUST WATCH video from Fox News Special Report just a couple days ago where they fact check Obama’s rags to riches story to find the truth, and well, to put it nicely, it ain’t the truth Obama wants you to know:

http://www.therightscoop.com/wow-special-report-fact-checks-obamas-alleged-back-story-and-it-aint-good/ (http://www.therightscoop.com/wow-special-report-fact-checks-obamas-alleged-back-story-and-it-aint-good/)

The same guy who worked with Fox News from the Washington Examiner has a great section that goes into much more detail. I haven’t gone through it yet but co-blogger Kimberly Kaye (Red) loves it: The Obama You Don’t Know


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 23, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
Absolutely terrific ObamaVoter rant. (http://thehostages.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/open-letter-to-democrat-voters/) That is, a rant against the ObamaVoter. (Found on the AoS sidebar.)

Quote
If you drive a Volt or a Prius, you’re very likely an idiot, a hypocrite and a smelly hippie.  Your electricity probably comes from coal you sh*thead.  Just ride a bike and put the $43k you save in your local Starbuck’s tip jar so that some poor 22-year old college-educated punk with no prospects of a real job in Obama’s economy can get some new tats.  You are all pretentious assholes and you’re also a lost cause.  Continue spouting off about the HOPE and the CHANGE.  “Four More of Whatever Lord Obama Ends Up Deciding Are Years”.

Quote
This letter is to the other people who vote for Democrats because they think that Democrats care about them and conservatives don’t.

Let’s start with this: Does the crack dealer who gives you the first three rocks for free care about you?  He knows you’ve had a rough go of it lately and he just wants to help out.  Those damn conservatives, they won’t give you free rocks.
Who is really on your side?  Who respects you?  And who is it that thinks of you as a born loser and a potential lifelong dependent benefactor?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
I should have guessed that a site with "thehostages" in the path was going to be good...

*Oh I have a Bachelorette’s degree in early 1979 African Womyn’s LGBT Poon Studies from Harvard and I have a solar-paneled windmill shoved up my free-range chicken’s ass.  Please love me.”*

 ::hysterical::



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2012, 08:12:41 AM
CBS Doesn't Air Obama Admitting Mistakes in Campaign Ads
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html)

"Sometimes".   ::)   ::doublebird::

But, Mitt's are rotten lies too, so, there!

 ::mooning::

 ::asskicking::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 24, 2012, 01:24:49 PM
CBS Doesn't Air Obama Admitting Mistakes in Campaign Ads
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html)

"Sometimes".   ::)   ::doublebird::

But, Mitt's are rotten lies too, so, there!

 ::mooning::

 ::asskicking::


Silly people...gods don't make mistakes.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
CBS Doesn't Air Obama Admitting Mistakes in Campaign Ads
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-doesnt-air-obama-admitting-mistakes-campaign-ads_652973.html)

"Sometimes".   ::)   ::doublebird::

But, Mitt's are rotten lies too, so, there!

 ::mooning::

 ::asskicking::


Silly people...gods don't make mistakes.

True, but fallen idols who still think they are devine are an entirely different matter! 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 25, 2012, 01:00:12 AM
I am going to take yet another opportunity here to say that I think BO is going to lose this election.

And that it will be a humiliating loss.

I don't care what the polls say. I think BO is going to lose big.

Perhaps I am expressing too much confidence in the overall wisdom of the electorate but...I simply refuse to believe that a majority will re-elect a stuttering clusterf**k of a miserable failure.

BO sucks. Anyone can see it. Why would you vote for more of this sh*t? We are not a nation of masochists. Sure, there are a lot of idiots out there, that's true. But we are still not a majority of idiots.

No. BO is going to suck hind tit on this one. You know it. I know it. He knows it. The media knows it. They have known it for months and hence the running interference for the moron.

Now on the other hand...I am very, very skeptical that we are going to take back the Senate. I don't know why that is but that just seems to be the way it's going to go down. But...fortunately for Romney, BO has established a precedent for just doing whatever the heck strikes his fancy and there is no reason Romney can't excercise the same power to undo it all.

Well...that's it. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2012, 07:15:00 AM
If we have an election...you are probably right.

If we have a fair election free of fraud and Black Panther like intimidation...you are probably right.

If Mitt doesn't step on his unit...you are probably right.

And yes, the Senate looks troubling to me.  Between the Akin disaster in MO and other less than stellar candidates (in Minnie we have a third-rate candidate in the Ron Paul mold all but written off against the stunning non-entity Amy Klobuchar, and no national money is being centered on this race, so it is lost)...yeah, getting the Senate will be tough.  If it is lost by one seat and Akin gets his butt handed to him by the vomitous McCasket...there's gonna be hell to pay.

If Mitt gets in, it will be a mild palette cleanser and a holding action...but a holding action for what?   ::whatgives::

Spread your eggs around...   ;)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 25, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
I am going to take yet another opportunity here to say that I think BO is going to lose this election.

And that it will be a humiliating loss.

I don't care what the polls say. I think BO is going to lose big.

Perhaps I am expressing too much confidence in the overall wisdom of the electorate but...I simply refuse to believe that a majority will re-elect a stuttering clusterf**k of a miserable failure.

BO sucks. Anyone can see it. Why would you vote for more of this sh*t? We are not a nation of masochists. Sure, there are a lot of idiots out there, that's true. But we are still not a majority of idiots.

No. BO is going to suck hind tit on this one. You know it. I know it. He knows it. The media knows it. They have known it for months and hence the running interference for the moron.

Now on the other hand...I am very, very skeptical that we are going to take back the Senate. I don't know why that is but that just seems to be the way it's going to go down. But...fortunately for Romney, BO has established a precedent for just doing whatever the heck strikes his fancy and there is no reason Romney can't excercise the same power to undo it all.

Well...that's it. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

In your comings & goings should you happen to encounter any analysis of the various senate races would you please repost it here? I've been searching for that which I am not competent enough to devise on my own. There must be someone out there who is crunching the numbers!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
I hope this ignorant womans rant gets lots of airplay, it will drive moderates away in droves...at least it should!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/madonna-urges-americans-to-vote-for-black-muslim-in-the-white-house-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/madonna-urges-americans-to-vote-for-black-muslim-in-the-white-house-video/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
Nothing earth-shattering here, but nothing so outside of the realm of possibility either, and the circumstantial evidence sure looks compelling.  And in light of the SCoaMF's disgusting UN speech and Middle East policy of appeasement and surrender, it looks like a justifiable connection...we are merely witnessing the payoff sell-out!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ready-new-questions-about-how-obama-got-into-harvard/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ready-new-questions-about-how-obama-got-into-harvard/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2012, 09:26:13 PM
I am going to take yet another opportunity here to say that I think BO is going to lose this election.

And that it will be a humiliating loss.

I don't care what the polls say. I think BO is going to lose big.

Perhaps I am expressing too much confidence in the overall wisdom of the electorate but...I simply refuse to believe that a majority will re-elect a stuttering clusterf**k of a miserable failure.

BO sucks. Anyone can see it. Why would you vote for more of this sh*t? We are not a nation of masochists. Sure, there are a lot of idiots out there, that's true. But we are still not a majority of idiots.

No. BO is going to suck hind tit on this one. You know it. I know it. He knows it. The media knows it. They have known it for months and hence the running interference for the moron.

Now on the other hand...I am very, very skeptical that we are going to take back the Senate. I don't know why that is but that just seems to be the way it's going to go down. But...fortunately for Romney, BO has established a precedent for just doing whatever the heck strikes his fancy and there is no reason Romney can't excercise the same power to undo it all.

Well...that's it. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

In your comings & goings should you happen to encounter any analysis of the various senate races would you please repost it here? I've been searching for that which I am not competent enough to devise on my own. There must be someone out there who is crunching the numbers!

I started this to get the ball rolling -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6844.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6844.0.html)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 26, 2012, 12:23:08 AM
The income tax gambit having failed, Harry Reid has now decided to attack Romney over his religion.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/25/Harry-Reid-Romney-Has-Sullied-the-Faith-of-Mormonism)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 26, 2012, 09:11:53 AM
The income tax gambit having failed, Harry Reid has now decided to attack Romney over his religion.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/25/Harry-Reid-Romney-Has-Sullied-the-Faith-of-Mormonism)


Pretty lame. 


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 26, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
My God, just imagine if Romney had said that about Dingy Harry!  Or Paul Ryan had said Joe Bite-me or Pelousy had sullied Catholicism!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on September 26, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
The income tax gambit having failed, Harry Reid has now decided to attack Romney over his religion.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/25/Harry-Reid-Romney-Has-Sullied-the-Faith-of-Mormonism)


Pretty lame. 


If harry reid is the face of mormonism....... ::falldownshocked::

I bet a tax audit of reids charitable giving to his church....wouldn't show much.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2012, 07:48:56 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/26/obama-i-want-to-see-us-export-more-jobs/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/26/obama-i-want-to-see-us-export-more-jobs/)

Oops!

Usually when his lips move he is lying!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/image002-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on September 26, 2012, 07:49:55 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
Should paste this on some pumps in October!

George Bush’s average annual gas prices

2001 – $1.61
2002 – $1.47
2003 – $1.69
2004 – $1.94
2005 – $2.30
2006 – $2.51
2007 – $2.64
2008 – $3.01

Average price for gas over Bush’s eight years = $2.14/gal

And now:

Barack Obama’s average annual gas prices

2009 – $2.14
2010 – $2.52
2011 – $3.57
2012 – $3.72 (through August)

Average price for gas over Obama’s four years to date = $2.99/gal

Per EIA.gov Real prices - 39.7% increase in average gas prices under Obama!
   
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on September 26, 2012, 08:37:38 PM
In August of 2003 I started contracting as an engineer at Boeing.  I started a spread sheet for my expenses, part of that spread sheet was the cost of gas and number of gallons purchased.  Keep in mind the numbers that follow are for Premium gas in Southern California (Orange County).  All gas was purchased at the same gas station (the lowest prices in the area) by me and I still have all the receipts.

Annual average price
2003 - $2.025/gal
2004 - $2.460/gal
2005 - $2.621/gal
2006 - $3.100/gal
2007 - $3.165/gal
2008 - $3.618/gal

  Bush years avg - $2.830/gal

2009 - $2.844/gal
2010 - $3.259/gal
2011 - $3.976/gal
2012 - $4.277/gal to date

  obama years avg - $3.589/gal

I'd say it correlates pretty well to the values Libertas stated.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 27, 2012, 01:34:58 AM
The income tax gambit having failed, Harry Reid has now decided to attack Romney over his religion.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/25/Harry-Reid-Romney-Has-Sullied-the-Faith-of-Mormonism)


Pretty lame.  

If harry reid is the face of mormonism....... ::falldownshocked::

I bet a tax audit of reids charitable giving to his church....wouldn't show much.



Actually, if I am not mistaken, mormons audit their own members to make sure they are donating the minimum amount that their church requires of them. You agree to allow this to happen when you become a member. There are other things you agree to, as well. It is, after all, a cult.

That said, I can see Reid...thug that he is...approaching the mormon leadership, "Hey, nice church thing you got going here. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to it..."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2012, 07:28:05 AM
In August of 2003 I started contracting as an engineer at Boeing.  I started a spread sheet for my expenses, part of that spread sheet was the cost of gas and number of gallons purchased.  Keep in mind the numbers that follow are for Premium gas in Southern California (Orange County).  All gas was purchased at the same gas station (the lowest prices in the area) by me and I still have all the receipts.

Annual average price
2003 - $2.025/gal
2004 - $2.460/gal
2005 - $2.621/gal
2006 - $3.100/gal
2007 - $3.165/gal
2008 - $3.618/gal

  Bush years avg - $2.830/gal

2009 - $2.844/gal
2010 - $3.259/gal
2011 - $3.976/gal
2012 - $4.277/gal to date

  obama years avg - $3.589/gal

I'd say it correlates pretty well to the values Libertas stated.

Oye!  And CA leans left...people must be way overpaid there to afford that and still think voting for libiots is the way to go.  Not too different than here in Minnie though politically and gas wise...I have to buy premium too, but at last sighting it was around $3.95 and a high of about $4.05.

 :P
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2012, 07:29:57 AM
The income tax gambit having failed, Harry Reid has now decided to attack Romney over his religion.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/25/Harry-Reid-Romney-Has-Sullied-the-Faith-of-Mormonism)


Pretty lame.  

If harry reid is the face of mormonism....... ::falldownshocked::

I bet a tax audit of reids charitable giving to his church....wouldn't show much.



Actually, if I am not mistaken, mormons audit their own members to make sure they are donating the minimum amount that their church requires of them. You agree to allow this to happen when you become a member. There are other things you agree to, as well. It is, after all, a cult.

That said, I can see Reid...thug that he is...approaching the mormon leadership, "Hey, nice church thing you got going here. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to it..."

Yeah, I could see that too.

Hey, what's up witht he new avatar?  Expecting a knock on the door?    ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on September 27, 2012, 02:36:14 PM
I try and rotate it from time to time. It means nothing...really.

Here's a palate cleanser for everyone. Be sure to pay attention at the 2:20 mark when the dumbass asks how we are to build roads with lower taxes. Plus the parting shot at the end...


A Conversation With a Typical Obama Voter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V-kOU4ZyJQ#ws)

Free ObamaPhone!

You know...ObamaVoters really are stupid. This is probably already posted elsewhere on the forum but I don't care...this needs to be posted everywhere. You need to send it to friends, enemies, family, the local press, the national press...everyone needs to see this. I know it won't change an ObamaVoter's mind (no brain, no pain) but at least they will have this image burned into their cerebral cortex. If there is any kind of TEOTWAWKI then people like this will be among the first ones dispatched...

Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio#ws)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
Dang good xtranormal vid.

Put her in a dumpster!   ::hysterical::

Enjoy your birth control and abortions in the FEMA camp!   ::laughonfloor::

Fascist Marxist scumbag.  And then some!

"Congratulations, you are an idiot!"  An understatement.

"GFY".  Yes.

And that Free sh*t Party fool and all her ilk...

"If there is any kind of TEOTWAWKI then people like this will be among the first ones dispatched..."

Aye!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2012, 09:46:32 PM
Oh, and lest we forget Darth Sidious, we all knew his BS about being disappointed in Obama was BS, and here's 1,500,000 reasons to prove it!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/soros-donates-15-million-to-pro-obama-pacs/2012/09/27/6c8cb472-08e4-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/soros-donates-15-million-to-pro-obama-pacs/2012/09/27/6c8cb472-08e4-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_print.html)

I loath that asshat with a passion that burns!

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on September 27, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio




Best line I heard today, from someone who heard the clip before seeing the video:  "She doesn't look as hot as she sounds"

How very droll.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 28, 2012, 09:24:28 AM
U Didn't Build That by MC 'Bama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQu2SVFF-cU#ws)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 28, 2012, 09:58:16 AM
U Didn't Build That by MC 'Bama


hehehe

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2012, 06:57:58 AM
Ugh.  These two need a room.  One with a temperature below freezing.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/hugo-chavez-to-obama-id-vote-for-you-and-youd-vote-for-me/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/hugo-chavez-to-obama-id-vote-for-you-and-youd-vote-for-me/)

 ::puke::



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 01, 2012, 09:52:30 PM
Okay, here is a mixed bag.

On the one hand you have Democrats doing what they do best, lying. They are running a push poll on Catholics, trying to use Romney's religion against him (this is where I get to say, "I told you so," to the Romney advocates in the primaries). Obviously, this is bad. What makes it really bad is that the push poll is being run by Catholic Democrats.

Quote
On Wednesday Hudson also revealed that a group calling itself Catholics for Obama had been making push poll phone calls in support of the president's re-election bid. Among the questions being asked, he said, was "How can you support a 'Mormon' who does not believe in Jesus Christ?"

The phone banker making the call, which in this case went to a woman Hudson identifies as "the head of a pro-life committee at a parish I know" reportedly also asserted that "President Obama did not support abortion" and that Planned Parenthood "helps children get healthcare and prenatal care and does not promote abortion." In fact, the group is one of the nation's largest abortion providers.

All this amounts to a whispering campaign that is both dishonest about the president's record on abortion and deviously attempts to divide the Catholic electorate on the issue of GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's religion—something the Obama campaign has repeatedly promised it would not do.

But on the other hand there are a lot of fundamentalist Catholics who are fighting back...

Quote
With most of the national polls showing the race to be one or two points either way, the fight over the Catholic vote is heating up. In Cleveland, Ohio, the local chapter of Right to Life has issued a formal letter to Bishop Richard Lennon asking him to suspend the Diocese's "Faithful Citizenship" meetings because of their disregard for pro-life issues.

"As a pro-life woman and a Catholic, I am appalled," Cleveland Right to Life President Molly Smith said in a release. "Our Church is under attack by the most liberal, pro-abortion leadership in history. The Cleveland Catholic Diocese is missing a great teaching and unifying opportunity by responding in this manner."

The part of the USNews article (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/09/27/obama-supporters-dirty-tricks-to-win-the-catholic-vote) that I liked best, though, were the comments that followed. There were dozens of comments that went like this:

Quote
When the choice is between a Mormon and a moron, I'll support the Mormon without blinking.

And there were dozens of comments that went like this:

Quote
I'll Vote for a Mormon, Christian, Catholic..Before Voting for a Marxist...

And there were dozens (I'm not exaggerating) of comments like this:

Quote
How can anyone vote for a Muslim?

Remember, this isn't National Review. This is USNews and World Report which is as liberal a rag as Time or Newsweek.

It's worth clicking the link just to scroll through almost 200 comments that are probably running 90 to 1 against BO. Yes, it's anecdotal evidence but it's all we have these days with a corrupt media. I would like to believe that a LOT of people have had quite enough of the SCOAMF and are willing to vote for anyone. That would be a referendum election.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 02, 2012, 04:51:24 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/26/obama-i-want-to-see-us-export-more-jobs/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/26/obama-i-want-to-see-us-export-more-jobs/)

Oops!

Usually when his lips move he is lying!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/image002-2.jpg)



There's a world of difference between "Makers" and "Takers" .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 02, 2012, 07:32:00 AM
Okay, here is a mixed bag.

On the one hand you have Democrats doing what they do best, lying. They are running a push poll on Catholics, trying to use Romney's religion against him (this is where I get to say, "I told you so," to the Romney advocates in the primaries). Obviously, this is bad. What makes it really bad is that the push poll is being run by Catholic Democrats.

Quote
On Wednesday Hudson also revealed that a group calling itself Catholics for Obama had been making push poll phone calls in support of the president's re-election bid. Among the questions being asked, he said, was "How can you support a 'Mormon' who does not believe in Jesus Christ?"

The phone banker making the call, which in this case went to a woman Hudson identifies as "the head of a pro-life committee at a parish I know" reportedly also asserted that "President Obama did not support abortion" and that Planned Parenthood "helps children get healthcare and prenatal care and does not promote abortion." In fact, the group is one of the nation's largest abortion providers.

All this amounts to a whispering campaign that is both dishonest about the president's record on abortion and deviously attempts to divide the Catholic electorate on the issue of GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's religion—something the Obama campaign has repeatedly promised it would not do.

But on the other hand there are a lot of fundamentalist Catholics who are fighting back...

Quote
With most of the national polls showing the race to be one or two points either way, the fight over the Catholic vote is heating up. In Cleveland, Ohio, the local chapter of Right to Life has issued a formal letter to Bishop Richard Lennon asking him to suspend the Diocese's "Faithful Citizenship" meetings because of their disregard for pro-life issues.

"As a pro-life woman and a Catholic, I am appalled," Cleveland Right to Life President Molly Smith said in a release. "Our Church is under attack by the most liberal, pro-abortion leadership in history. The Cleveland Catholic Diocese is missing a great teaching and unifying opportunity by responding in this manner."

The part of the USNews article (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/09/27/obama-supporters-dirty-tricks-to-win-the-catholic-vote) that I liked best, though, were the comments that followed. There were dozens of comments that went like this:

Quote
When the choice is between a Mormon and a moron, I'll support the Mormon without blinking.

And there were dozens of comments that went like this:

Quote
I'll Vote for a Mormon, Christian, Catholic..Before Voting for a Marxist...

And there were dozens (I'm not exaggerating) of comments like this:

Quote
How can anyone vote for a Muslim?

Remember, this isn't National Review. This is USNews and World Report which is as liberal a rag as Time or Newsweek.

It's worth clicking the link just to scroll through almost 200 comments that are probably running 90 to 1 against BO. Yes, it's anecdotal evidence but it's all we have these days with a corrupt media. I would like to believe that a LOT of people have had quite enough of the SCOAMF and are willing to vote for anyone. That would be a referendum election.


The push poll was more than a lie and from the comments most  have figured it out. While not a catholic, I feel disappointment a poll such as this ever existed. It is strictly evil in nature and preys on the spiritually weak. I've also seen this in other denominations. Allowing the small minority to push (no pun intended) thier carnal will on others. We've allowed our schools and our media to be overrun by the left......better draw the line in our places of worship.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2012, 11:21:24 AM
Speaking of polls, see this testimony?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/10/a-pollster-under-oath-137100.html (http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/10/a-pollster-under-oath-137100.html)

Propaganda.  Shocking, I know.

/
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Quote
Obama popped in his campaign's field office in Henderson, Nev., to give staff there a pep talk and phone a few volunteers, including Andrea Stinger. Pool reporter Carol Lee of the Wall Street Journal collected his comments.
 
"We had a great prep, and it was a lot of fun," he told Stinger. "It's very nice. Although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. It's a drag. They're making me do my homework."


link (http://www.newstalk1130.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104707?feed=104707&article=10462517#ixzz28Ad112JN)

Quote
one of Obama's key goals was battling his tendency to be long-winded.
 
The president is trying to "make sure he is sharpening his answers and shortening the time it takes to make them."




says nothing about his tendency to lie.....
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on October 02, 2012, 04:56:35 PM
Quote
one of Obama's key goals was battling his tendency to be long-winded.
 
The president is trying to "make sure he is sharpening his answers and shortening the time it takes to make them."




says nothing about his tendency to lie.....

That's an asset for Dhimms.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 02, 2012, 05:18:20 PM
A message from Barry:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-campaign-website-vote-your-lady-parts-depend-it_653393.html


(http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/images/ladyparts.img_assist_custom-640x399.jpg)


"Vote like your lady parts depend on it," the text in the image says. Underneath, the text reads: "Because they kinda do."

UPDATE: The image has been removed from the Obama website.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2012, 06:51:27 PM
Heh, heard that on Rush today, no doubt yanked as soon as they knew he called it out.

Losers.

I don't think I can watch these worthless debates.  Like LV's post and other stuff I've heard the entire Democrat-Media Complex is reading the same script saying Obama is the underdog and so disadvantaged that he merely has to show up and be seen standing up to Mitt and its a win for him.  It'll be the usual ambush questions for Mitt and asshats stacked in the audience cheering lustily everything O and booing everything Mitt and if Mitt looks at his watch, scratches or drinks water he'll be labeled as being rattled by Obama, out of touch, blah effing blah, yadda frickin yadda...the MFM boilerplate declaring a stunning Obama win and feigning mock surprise over how bad Mitt was is already written.

What crap!  This is what happens when you cave to their rules, their format and their asshat moderators time and again...

We will never see a brave soul step forward and say "screw your BS!"...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/MFM/MFM.jpg)

 ::mooning::

Not interested.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
The headline at Drudge right now is...provocative. Seriously, I'm provoked.

Quote
DAILY CALLER PLANS EXCLUSIVE RELEASE OF 'UNSCRUBBED' OBAMA VIDEO... DEVELOPING...

OBAMA DECLARES HOW POOR PEOPLE: 'Need help with basic skills, how to shop, how to show up for work on time, how to wear the right clothes, how to act appropriately in an office'... Developing...

DAILY CALLER: 'For nearly 40 minutes, using an accent he never adopts in public, Obama describes a racist, zero-sum society, in which the white majority profits by exploiting black America'... Developing tonight...

Just in time for the first debate. I'm ready to be interested. I'm ready to be intrigued.

Still don't want to tune in to the debates? Could be good. You never know.

EDIT: The DC is going to be putting this thing up online at 7 PM ET

SECOND EDIT: And it's going to air on Hannity.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
Seeing that asshat, hearing that asshat...is asking more of me than I can bear...I can only take so much lying...and this guy is hands-down the worst of them all...

I could take either Clinton in larger doses than the SCoaMF by a ratio of 20:1, easy.

Take one for the team my brother.

 ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 02, 2012, 07:34:49 PM

Ya never know, Kommander Fo Thinskin may get tacky
or, and he is capable, may slip one between his ribs.  I can't
not watch.
 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
I'm hoping that it is not unlike a multiple car pileup on the freeway with dismemberment.

Stomach churning but impossible to look away.

But it probably won't be as earth shaking as it is being made out to be.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2012, 11:28:05 PM
Okay, so it was what I suspected: Good but not great. More grist for the BO mill.

So...change topic. Here is someone else (http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2012/10/01/the-narrative-in-london/) mostly parroting what I have been saying:

Quote
At a dinner party in London Saturday, I was asked to say a few words about the upcoming presidential election in the United States. All of the guests were what my friend Otto Penzler calls “politically mature,” i.e., they regarded Barack Obama with varying degrees of fear, loathing, and distaste. But they had also, most of them, imbibed deeply of The Narrative: the fairy tale dispensed by virtually all the legacy (formerly known as “the mainstream”) media that Obama was as sure a thing to win as was possible to discover in this mutable sublunary world.

There was some surprise (not to say incredulity), then, when I repeated my frequent refrain (like a broken record) that I thought Mitt Romney would not only win but win big. I was not surprised by the wonder with which my prediction was greeted. The Narrative, nearly seamless in the United States, is positively monolithic in the UK. And there is this difference: in the U.S., the idea that Barack Obama has the election sewn up, while assiduously disseminated by the media, is at least treated to some of the skepticism it deserves by a large and vibrant dissenting commentariat, to whose mast your humble correspondent proudly nails his colors. That is one reason that, although you’ll rarely hear a peep of dissent on the “major” networks or politically correct organs like The New York Times, there is nevertheless a strong and indeed growing current of contrary sentiment, broadcast by venues like PJ Media but underwritten by a vast electorate that is seething with discontent over the top-down, socialist, spread-the-wealth-around policies of our handsome but shockingly incompetent president.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2012, 11:31:58 PM
Oh, and Talking Points Memo (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/breaking_obama_is_black.php) predictably spins the Narrative that the unedited BO speech is old news. I find it funny that they headline their rebuttal with a picture of BO with his nose in the air.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2012, 11:46:26 PM
And just in case you were looking for some fantasy to go with your otherwise boring evening here is David Gergen (http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/opinion/gergen-debate-stakes/index.html?hpt=op_t1) proving that yes, it is possible to do word processing while seriously hopped up on hallucinogenics. Gergen is suggesting that BO can put the race away tomorrow night at the Denver debate with some kind of a "knock out punch" or something...

Quote
Contrary to much conventional wisdom, Obama may actually be able to bust open this race, sweeping almost every state he won four years ago and rolling up a victory margin of perhaps five points or more.

It must be nice to live in some kind of a weird alternate universe where things are pretty much whatever you imagine them to be. In Gergen's strange and twisted world BO is the greatest president ever, the world is - due to BO's brilliance - at peace and the economy has apparently roared back to heights never seen before.

Or...it could be that CNN requires him to write these columns on a regular basis or forfeit his paycheck so Gergen just makes sh*t up. That seems to be the more logical explanation but he could easily be demented, as well.

Hey, here's a quick question for the forum members: How many BO bumpers stickers and signs do you see? Rush was sort of talking about that today but he was quick to mention that Romney signs aren't highly visible either. Other than the old Obama/Biden 2008 stickers I occasionally see on beat up Volvos I haven't seen any new ones at all. Not a single yard sign, either. I have seen a few Romney signs and stickers but zero (and I do mean zero) BO 2012 signs/stickers. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2012, 12:14:37 AM
I have seen a few Obama 2012 stickers on cars, but haven't seen any yard signs. I haven't really seen many yard signs for Romney either. But there is definitely none of the exuberance for Duh Won like there was in 2008. It is simply not there.

I think there is something significant to the fact that there are so few obvious signs of support for either candidate. I think a substantial portion of the population have realized there's nothing about politics that can actually fix any of the looming problems, and in fact most of those problems were created by politics in the first place. I'm not even sure cynicism is quite the right word for it, nor is helplessness. It's an almost indifferent resignation to the fact that it's all just so much kabuki theater and biding of time, awaiting the big something.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 03, 2012, 05:15:21 AM
When it's so glaringly clear that the pollsters and news outlets are in the tank for Obama why shouldn't it be equally and logically clear that Romney is going to win ?   ::oldman:: ::thinking:: ::oldman::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 03, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
When it's so glaringly clear that the pollsters and news outlets are in the tank for Obama why shouldn't it be equally and logically clear that Romney is going to win ?   ::oldman:: ::thinking:: ::oldman::

No my friend. Because logic, reason, and rational thought have very little bearing on our elections. The "logic" is that Øbozo must win because they are so heavily invested in Øbozo. The ironic thing is that they cling to their Øbamessiah for fear of losing face. The irony is that these cretins are relatively shameless in every other respect.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2012, 09:06:25 AM
When it's so glaringly clear that the pollsters and news outlets are in the tank for Obama why shouldn't it be equally and logically clear that Romney is going to win ?   ::oldman:: ::thinking:: ::oldman::

No my friend. Because logic, reason, and rational thought have very little bearing on our elections. The "logic" is that Øbozo must win because they are so heavily invested in Øbozo. The ironic thing is that they cling to their Øbamessiah for fear of losing face. The irony is that these cretins are relatively shameless in every other respect.
I want a free phone, free contraception and to feel I have stuck it to those rich people who make it obvious what a no good lousy failure I am . .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 03, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
When it's so glaringly clear that the pollsters and news outlets are in the tank for Obama why shouldn't it be equally and logically clear that Romney is going to win ?   ::oldman:: ::thinking:: ::oldman::

No my friend. Because logic, reason, and rational thought have very little bearing on our elections. The "logic" is that Øbozo must win because they are so heavily invested in Øbozo. The ironic thing is that they cling to their Øbamessiah for fear of losing face. The irony is that these cretins are relatively shameless in every other respect.

So you think the majority will believe the media "Zietscheit" ?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on October 03, 2012, 09:54:04 AM
Quote
Hey, here's a quick question for the forum members: How many BO bumpers stickers and signs do you see? Rush was sort of talking about that today but he was quick to mention that Romney signs aren't highly visible either. Other than the old Obama/Biden 2008 stickers I occasionally see on beat up Volvos I haven't seen any new ones at all. Not a single yard sign, either. I have seen a few Romney signs and stickers but zero (and I do mean zero) BO 2012 signs/stickers. Anyone else?

I have seen a few (3-6) obama/biden 2012 bumper stickers here in So. Cal.  No yard signs though, also nothing Romney.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2012, 10:17:10 AM
I saw a Romney yard sign on my street, and a Romney bumpersticker yesterday.  I haven't been checking, but I will going forward.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Hey, here's a quick question for the forum members: How many BO bumpers stickers and signs do you see? Rush was sort of talking about that today but he was quick to mention that Romney signs aren't highly visible either. Other than the old Obama/Biden 2008 stickers I occasionally see on beat up Volvos I haven't seen any new ones at all. Not a single yard sign, either. I have seen a few Romney signs and stickers but zero (and I do mean zero) BO 2012 signs/stickers. Anyone else?

I definitely see more Romney yard Signs in and around where I live in Denver - though not many.  A lot of signs for other positions where a Republican is running, but they DIDN'T post a Romney sign.  Only saw one Obama yard sign - of course next to a new home we were looking at ( NIX on that one. I may not be able to get far from them, but I am not going to live next door to a libtard so stupid as to post a Obama sign in his year this year. That is a true believer and someone I would have to shoot come Teotwawki. )

Not a lot of bumper stickers either way,  even when driving through the People's Republic  of Boulder. (and that is weird- in there I was still seeing Kerry stickers up to 2006)

But hey, anyone notice anything wrong with this picture?
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/weisshaupt/prius.jpg)

Not a photoshop. I took this one myself.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
When it's so glaringly clear that the pollsters and news outlets are in the tank for Obama why shouldn't it be equally and logically clear that Romney is going to win ?   ::oldman:: ::thinking:: ::oldman::

No my friend. Because logic, reason, and rational thought have very little bearing on our elections. The "logic" is that Øbozo must win because they are so heavily invested in Øbozo. The ironic thing is that they cling to their Øbamessiah for fear of losing face. The irony is that these cretins are relatively shameless in every other respect.

So you think the majority will believe the media "Zietscheit" ?

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
I saw a Romney yard sign on my street, and a Romney bumpersticker yesterday.  I haven't been checking, but I will going forward.

See a lot of O'Bongo here in Minnie...but I look upon them as one would look at a bullseye...

Yard signs are more of the local variety, not so many POTUS ones...the "Had Enough?  Vote Romney" billboards still standing around the metro.

I did see an idiot up at the lake (who is not on the lake but off it) who has been trying for the past two years to sell his property...I doubt the idiot realizes he is in the more conservative sticks and his Obama/Biden sign may be a detriment to his ability to sell.  (Oh, and his asking price is ridiculously high!)  Takes a special kind of fool to advertise his stupidity...

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 03, 2012, 12:34:33 PM
no license plate
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 03, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
I thought he just blocked the plate out . I was looking for something else but can't find anything .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 03, 2012, 01:14:47 PM
Msybe he did and he is referring to a prius driver voting for Romney?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 03, 2012, 01:17:31 PM

So that's what a Prius looks like.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 03, 2012, 01:38:26 PM

"Rich people are all for non-violence, why wouldn't they be, they've got what they want."

Obama 2002 MLK speech: "Rich people are all for non-violence", unless they are perpetrating it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuzwIsNrXgQ#)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2012, 02:14:33 PM
Yes, rich people perpetrate their violence "with their accountants".  Or somethin' like 'at.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2012, 03:21:34 PM
Msybe he did and he is referring to a prius driver voting for Romney?

Yeah. And they have an NRA sticker too.
(http://sparks.brushfireoffreedom.org/image.axd?picture=2012%2f9%2fObama+HQ_edited-1.jpg)

Apparently from Aurora, CO

Alternate caption  (http://sparks.brushfireoffreedom.org/post/2012/10/01/Samuel-Jackson-and-Urban-Blight.aspx) ""Add a prostitute and the average Obama voter would never need to leave.""
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 03, 2012, 06:07:24 PM
Quote
Hey, here's a quick question for the forum members: How many BO bumpers stickers and signs do you see? Rush was sort of talking about that today but he was quick to mention that Romney signs aren't highly visible either. Other than the old Obama/Biden 2008 stickers I occasionally see on beat up Volvos I haven't seen any new ones at all. Not a single yard sign, either. I have seen a few Romney signs and stickers but zero (and I do mean zero) BO 2012 signs/stickers. Anyone else?

Time for check-in from hippie central.

You are correct - there are fewer Ø'blowme signs this time around than in '08 - even for this leftist rat-hole. I have a (sort-of) neighbor who plastered signs on his corner lot last time out. This time only signs for local candidates. Similar stories wherever I go.

I have seen some Ø'blowme bumper stickers - but again not as many. I've been helping erect signs (the 4" X 8' variety) for a local candidate so I am attuned to what signs are out and where. If sign count were an indicator of interest the pubbies would be a lock in this state (too bad it doesn't work that way!).
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 03, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
I saw a Romney yard sign on my street, and a Romney bumpersticker yesterday.  I haven't been checking, but I will going forward.

It is a given in this town that if you put out a Romney sign (just like with the Bush signs) the zombies will attack and damage your property. It is a certainty. So no one does unless they can monitor it or it is behind a fenced area.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 03, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
I saw a Romney yard sign on my street, and a Romney bumpersticker yesterday.  I haven't been checking, but I will going forward.

It is a given in this town that if you put out a Romney sign (just like with the Bush signs) the zombies will attack and damage your property. It is a certainty. So no one does unless they can monitor it or it is behind a fenced area.

 I have both Allen Wst and Romney Ryan signs up,and screw those that don't like it' I drove down one street where there were 20 roney signs and two obama signs on the whole street.

   Are we live blogging this thing tonight??
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 03, 2012, 07:26:32 PM
In my area, there are a few romney signs but I haven't seen the first obama sign. Have seen a few obama bumper stickers, but when I think about it, most are on cars passing down I 65 going south.

People get weird stares here if they sport an obama sticker.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2012, 10:19:08 PM
Not one Obama yard sign.  A few on cars--usually people voting for the year 2012 and occassionally a Obama/Biden.  Probably see one to four a week. But I have seen a few Romney yard signs and at least 3 or 4 maybe a few more bumper  stickers a week. Not even a lot for local candidates.


I think people don't want to make an issue of who they're voting for.  And I think it's not good for Obama.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 04, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
Not one Obama yard sign.  A few on cars--usually people voting for the year 2012 and occassionally a Obama/Biden.  Probably see one to four a week. But I have seen a few Romney yard signs and at least 3 or 4 maybe a few more bumper  stickers a week. Not even a lot for local candidates.


I think people don't want to make an issue of who they're voting for.  And I think it's not good for Obama.


I believe you are correct. It's still the whole race thing. Romney support is there, but reserved......but not necessarily because of Romney. I believe it is why, as Trap has posted on several occasions, why online comment run pro Romney. There is a certain privacy there.  All those people who proudly endorsed Obama last time..... Are not this time.....are embarrassed as hell.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 04, 2012, 09:05:35 AM
"Did you see that Ludicrous Display  last night?"

INtrade has Obama down over 10 points (https://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?contractId=743474&tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com)

And did you know that Bet Fair - a sports betting site, lets you bet on the election as well?  (http://sports.betfair.com/?mi=21311313&ex=1&q=presidential%20election)

You see, American Politics is a sport. Go Red Team.

Did you see that ludicrous display last night ? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yN2H3--1aw#ws)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 04, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Not one Obama yard sign.  A few on cars--usually people voting for the year 2012 and occassionally a Obama/Biden.  Probably see one to four a week. But I have seen a few Romney yard signs and at least 3 or 4 maybe a few more bumper  stickers a week. Not even a lot for local candidates.


I think people don't want to make an issue of who they're voting for.  And I think it's not good for Obama.


I believe you are correct. It's still the whole race thing. Romney support is there, but reserved......but not necessarily because of Romney. I believe it is why, as Trap has posted on several occasions, why online comment run pro Romney. There is a certain privacy there.  All those people who proudly endorsed Obama last time..... Are not this time.....are embarrassed as hell.

Then there's my other barometer - my leftist co-workers. One in particular is a neo-marxist. He is about the same age as I, grew up with similar life experiences, but turned out diametrically the opposite of me. We were paired up with I joined the organization and (probably because of my appearance) he immediately took me for a fellow traveler. Because he held knowledge that was critical to my success at my job I allowed to him believe whatever he wished to believe.

He was horrified when, about three years later he discovered that I was a staunch conservative. He actually missed a day of work and then wouldn't speak to me for months. He is the one that agitated for us to unionize and he hated me because I played a prominent role in crushing the effort. The irony is that he now works for me  ;D

Anyway - he and a few others were quite vocal against "Bush*tler" and then complete Øbomorons in '08. They took every opportunity to inappropriately insert politics into business and were responsible for spawning the election war that resulted in an edict from management prohibiting the discussion of politics on the job (yea, like that was enforceable!).

This year? Crickets. I know what their POV is but they are tight-lipped about it. And moody - almost morose. I can tell that this is weighing heavily on his mind and he is taking every Øbozo gaffe personally. After the years of silently putting up with his crap I'm hoping that the meltdown is in full technicolor.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 04, 2012, 11:16:08 AM
Not one Obama yard sign.  A few on cars--usually people voting for the year 2012 and occassionally a Obama/Biden.  Probably see one to four a week. But I have seen a few Romney yard signs and at least 3 or 4 maybe a few more bumper  stickers a week. Not even a lot for local candidates.


I think people don't want to make an issue of who they're voting for.  And I think it's not good for Obama.


I believe you are correct. It's still the whole race thing. Romney support is there, but reserved......but not necessarily because of Romney. I believe it is why, as Trap has posted on several occasions, why online comment run pro Romney. There is a certain privacy there.  All those people who proudly endorsed Obama last time..... Are not this time.....are embarrassed as hell.

Then there's my other barometer - my leftist co-workers. One in particular is a neo-marxist. He is about the same age as I, grew up with similar life experiences, but turned out diametrically the opposite of me. We were paired up with I joined the organization and (probably because of my appearance) he immediately took me for a fellow traveler. Because he held knowledge that was critical to my success at my job I allowed to him believe whatever he wished to believe.

He was horrified when, about three years later he discovered that I was a staunch conservative. He actually missed a day of work and then wouldn't speak to me for months. He is the one that agitated for us to unionize and he hated me because I played a prominent role in crushing the effort. The irony is that he now works for me  ;D

Anyway - he and a few others were quite vocal against "Bush*tler" and then complete Øbomorons in '08. They took every opportunity to inappropriately insert politics into business and were responsible for spawning the election war that resulted in an edict from management prohibiting the discussion of politics on the job (yea, like that was enforceable!).

This year? Crickets. I know what their POV is but they are tight-lipped about it. And moody - almost morose. I can tell that this is weighing heavily on his mind and he is taking every Øbozo gaffe personally. After the years of silently putting up with his crap I'm hoping that the meltdown is in full technicolor.




   The must have loved seeing their beloved one not being able to defend one of his policies last night. Watching everything you believe in shown to be completely indefensible and for the pie in the sky crap that it all is.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2012, 11:24:02 AM
"This year? Crickets. I know what their POV is but they are tight-lipped about it. And moody - almost morose."

I can confirm this is also true at my place of work.  I think they are stunned that their Messiah was so easily thrashed.

I have not heard their chatter even parrot the lame excuses offered by idiots like AlGore (blame the altitude!   ::hysterical::  ) or anyone else, I don't think they have the energy to even mouth that tripe.  Maybe in a few days when the MFM issues more concise talking points, but not now, they are a sullen and cowering enclave right now.

 ;D

 ::whoohoo::

Makes me want to poke them!

 ::pokeineye::

 ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 04, 2012, 11:37:59 AM
the left is stunned

how deflating it must be to realize you placed your hope in a loser
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 04, 2012, 11:57:23 AM
"This year? Crickets. I know what their POV is but they are tight-lipped about it. And moody - almost morose."

I can confirm this is also true at my place of work.  I think they are stunned that their Messiah was so easily thrashed.

I have not heard their chatter even parrot the lame excuses offered by idiots like AlGore (blame the altitude!   ::hysterical::  ) or anyone else, I don't think they have the energy to even mouth that tripe.  Maybe in a few days when the MFM issues more concise talking points, but not now, they are a sullen and cowering enclave right now.

 ;D

 ::whoohoo::

Makes me want to poke them!

 ::pokeineye::

 ::evil::

You think THAT'S bad ... I heard they had to carry Stymie up the steps of Air Force One last night in a fetal position .  ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 04, 2012, 12:28:49 PM
Quote
The must have loved seeing their beloved one not being able to defend one of his policies last night. Watching everything you believe in shown to be completely indefensible and for the pie in the sky crap that it all is.

I haven't spoken to him (I try to avoid contact unless the job requires it) but I know him to be a complete dhimmicrat toilet-drinker. It doesn't matter to him that it doesn't make sense - only that it makes him feeeeeeeel good. He'll be annoyed and offended that his Øbamessiah isn't being crowned winner of the world, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't call in sick for a few days.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
"This year? Crickets. I know what their POV is but they are tight-lipped about it. And moody - almost morose."

I can confirm this is also true at my place of work.  I think they are stunned that their Messiah was so easily thrashed.

I have not heard their chatter even parrot the lame excuses offered by idiots like AlGore (blame the altitude!   ::hysterical::  ) or anyone else, I don't think they have the energy to even mouth that tripe.  Maybe in a few days when the MFM issues more concise talking points, but not now, they are a sullen and cowering enclave right now.

 ;D

 ::whoohoo::

Makes me want to poke them!

 ::pokeineye::

 ::evil::

You think THAT'S bad ... I heard they had to carry Stymie up the steps of Air Force One last night in a fetal position .  ::evil::

May their grips be weak and the stairs very hard.

 ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 04, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
So I drove back over to that house I was looking at to see if the debate got the libtard to take is Obama sign down. Nope. Now there were two. And the across the street neighbor put one up.  After all, Romney's facts and logic are all a trick, some sort of dark magic like Math that Conservatives use.  It doesn't change reality.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2012, 07:24:29 PM
Doubling down on stupid.  They are consistent, eh?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 04, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
So I drove back over to that house I was looking at to see if the debate got the libtard to take is Obama sign down. Nope. Now there were two. And the across the street neighbor put one up.  After all, Romney's facts and logic are all a trick, some sort of dark magic like Math that Conservatives use.  It doesn't change reality.


Maybe you should leave them a note....Like some kids stuck an obama sign in your yard and I thought you needed to know so no one thinks your an idiot.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 04, 2012, 08:00:16 PM
That ^^.  I like it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 04, 2012, 08:04:53 PM

Closing and getting out of that neighborhood
underscores the words free and clear.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
RedState - "Joe Biden Continues to Campaign for Romney/Ryan"

Heh!

http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/04/joe-biden-continues-to-campaign-for-romneyryan/ (http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/04/joe-biden-continues-to-campaign-for-romneyryan/)

Keep shootin' yer yap off Plugs, moderates will flee Hopeless/Changeless in droves...

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2012, 08:07:42 PM

Closing and getting out of that neighborhood
underscores the words free and clear.


 ;D   ::thumbsup::

Turn out the lights...the parties over...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 04, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
RedState - "Joe Biden Continues to Campaign for Romney/Ryan"

Heh!

http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/04/joe-biden-continues-to-campaign-for-romneyryan/ (http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/04/joe-biden-continues-to-campaign-for-romneyryan/)

Keep shootin' yer yap off Plugs, moderates will flee Hopeless/Changeless in droves...

 ::thumbsup::
I noticed the media starting to print articles with sprinkles of truth and some commentators such a Kirstin Powers speaking threads of truth.  At that time
PTBs had written him off and began to slowly turn off his teleprompters.

And they said:

Turn out the lights
The party's over
They say that
All good things must end...
Call it a night
The party's over
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 04, 2012, 08:52:09 PM

They got Barry tangled in a spider web

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/halloween-display-catching-family-in-web-of-controversy/ (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/halloween-display-catching-family-in-web-of-controversy/)
COLLEYVILLLE (CBSDFW.COM) – The election season and Halloween have been joined together in a yard display that is drawing attention in Colleyville.

The display features spiders big enough for a human to ride on. Spiderwebs cover much of the front yard. The scariest element though, may be the political and racial overtones some are conferring. ...

(http://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/photo1.jpg)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 04, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
Yeah, it's three in a row, but:

CHICAGO (CBS) (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/04/naacp-official-obama-campaign-staffer-threatened-me/) The President of the South Suburban Branch of the NAACP alleges a director of the re-election campaign of Barack Obama has threatened and intimidated him because he doesn’t support the president.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 04, 2012, 09:30:12 PM

They got Barry tangled in a spider web

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/halloween-display-catching-family-in-web-of-controversy/ (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/halloween-display-catching-family-in-web-of-controversy/)
COLLEYVILLLE (CBSDFW.COM) – The election season and Halloween have been joined together in a yard display that is drawing attention in Colleyville.

The display features spiders big enough for a human to ride on. Spiderwebs cover much of the front yard. The scariest element though, may be the political and racial overtones some are conferring. ...

(http://Image)



We have something like this going on up in our neck of the woods. A young (20-something) couple put an empty chair out on their lawn to poke fun at the pResident. Someone came along and snatched it, so they replaced it with one up in a tree. Now the limp-wrists are claiming racism because of the "chair-lynchings" conducted against blacks by someone, somewhere, sometime in the past.

Has anyone ever heard of chair-lynchings?!

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2012, 06:53:22 AM
How do you lynch an inanimate object?   ::hysterical::

Would like to see more of this!   ;D

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2012, 06:54:29 AM
Yeah, it's three in a row, but:

CHICAGO (CBS) (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/04/naacp-official-obama-campaign-staffer-threatened-me/) The President of the South Suburban Branch of the NAACP alleges a director of the re-election campaign of Barack Obama has threatened and intimidated him because he doesn’t support the president.

See what happens if you try to leave the DemPlantation?!  I hope this story gets out, I would hope Romney operatives make sure it gets out!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
SCoaMF doing what the SCOaMF does best -

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-we-dont-believe-anybody-entitled-success-country_653749.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-we-dont-believe-anybody-entitled-success-country_653749.html)

"We do not believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country."

Huh, doesn't apply to governement and its minions now does it?  Or crony capitalists like GM, Chrysler, GE, Solyndra...eh?

 ::effu::

 ::asskicking::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 05, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
"This country does not just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top," Obama said, according to a rush transcript of the remarks. "It succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. Our economy does not grow from the top-down, it grows from the middle-out. We do not believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country. But we do believe in opportunity. We believe in a country where hard work pays off and responsibilities are rewarded and everybody is getting a fair shot and everybody's doing their fair share. And everybody's paying by the same rules. That is the country believe in. That is what we have been fighting for the last four years. That is what we're going to put in place in the next four years if you reelect me as president of the United States of America."

This is familiar.  He's recycling his speeches now and throwing in some re-election-speak.

What he's "going to put in place"?  There's nothing to "put in place" except to put *him* out and get the rest of the government the hell out of the way.

Gawd, his ego ...........
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2012, 08:32:09 PM
...Gawd, his ego ...........

Indeed....

The Undoing of Storybook Man
    -Jonah Goldberg (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/329497/undoing-storybook-man-jonah-goldberg)

It was the Puss in Boots eyes.

If you’ve seen the Shrek movies or the spin-off cartoon starring the storybook cat voiced by Antonio Banderas, you know what I’m talking about. Whenever Puss in Boots really needs something from someone, he flashes these enormous kitten eyes that melt anyone in their path. Whenever my daughter really wants something, she tries to lay them on me, and I have to say, “Stop trying to give me the Puss in Boots eyes . . . you can’t have chocolate cake for dinner.”

I knew Barack Obama was miserable when he tried to give debate moderator Jim Lehrer the Puss in Boots eyes. “You may want to move on to another topic,” Obama implored Lehrer, a bit like a motorcycle thief begging a cop to take him into custody rather than let him stay with the surly biker gang that caught him.

I expected Romney to beat expectations and win the debate (though I had no clue how decisive his victory would be), not because I thought Romney was such a fantastic debater, but because Obama is the single most overrated politician of my lifetime.

That’s not to say he’s a bad politician. He’s not. He’s fine, even pretty good. But he’s not the master so many people claim he is.

The Irish have a saying: “Hunger makes the best sauce.” And it’s true. If you’re hungry enough, roadkill will make for a king’s feast. Liberals were so hungry for someone like Obama, he seemed like so much more than he really was.

You could hear indications of this fact in the way some of the more crotchety members of the Democratic establishment described Obama.

Senator Harry Reid was blown away by the potential of this “light-skinned” African-American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

In 2007, Joe Biden said of his then-opponent, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” He added: “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Storybook Man, indeed.

While such comments could be described as racially insensitive, they weren’t necessarily racist. They simply reflected the fact that even cynical Democrats understood that the Democratic party — and, to be fair, much of the country generally — craved a mainstream black presidential candidate. Jesse Jackson was too polarizing, some would say too embarrassing, for the job. Obama, meanwhile, was “storybook, man.”

The problem for Obama was that he always believed the most ludicrous version of Storybook Man. He once told a reporter, “You know, I actually believe my own [bovine excrement].”

For a guy who supposedly gives wonderful speeches, he rarely persuades the unpersuaded or inspires those he didn’t already have at “hello.” That’s partly the fault of his speechwriters, who always did him the disservice of producing the kind of pedantic and clichéd boilerplate that Obama mistook for soaring oratory. He thought he smashed through the Democratic primaries like a battering ram through concrete when he mostly pushed on open doors.

As president, he’s convinced himself that he is a policy wonk with a deeper understanding of the machinery of government and the mysteries of the economy than even his advisers. And yet he had to learn on the job that “shovel-ready jobs” were magic beans sold to him by party hacks hungry for pork. He bought a stimulus that only stimulated political cronies. In the debate, he touted windmills and solar power as the energy sources of the future as if he still honestly believed that.

The media’s infatuation with Obama and/or their contempt for his critics only served to reinforce his delusions. When the press laughs at all of your jokes and takes your glib excuses as profound insights, the inevitable result is a kind of flabby narcissism. Kings can be forgiven for thinking they are the greatest poets when the court weeps at their clunky limericks.

The Obama who delivered a shockingly lackluster convention speech last month is the same man who walked into that Denver stadium in 2008 to rapturous approval. The man who lost the debate Wednesday night is the same man who never managed to make Obamacare popular after more than 50 speeches and pronouncements on it in his first year.

The key difference now is that the hunger for Obama has been replaced with the indigestion that follows after four unimpressive years in office. In sales, they say you sell the sizzle, not the steak. In 2008, the man was all sizzle, and the ravenous throng was sold. Now he must sell the steak itself, and it’s full of gristle, fat, and bone. He may yet still close the deal, but only if people fall for his Puss in Boots eyes.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 05, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Yes.  "The Magic Negro".

This ties right back into your member diary, IDP, particularly in how conservatives, too, bought into the "historic first Black president" as a racial healing.

And they still haven't learned.  Nikki Haley is celebrated as the first governor of her *protected status*, including that of "woman", as is Allen West, Marco Rubio and so on.

I've been urging against this for what seems like forever, and have consistently been told that WE need to play it this way because the Left does.  Feh.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
Now is the time to prove as a nation we can "un" elect a black president.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 05, 2012, 11:22:08 PM
I was going to post that (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2929.msg78897.html#msg78897), IDP, as a near perfect explanation of my thoughts on why he should not win. I agree with everything in it except for the final sentence. I don't think he has "it" anymore. I think that it's over. Gone. He will spend the remainder of the campaign trying to recapture "it" and he will not succeed.

So, thanks for posting it. It's nearly perfect.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 06, 2012, 07:16:09 AM
Yes.  "The Magic Negro".

This ties right back into your member diary, IDP, particularly in how conservatives, too, bought into the "historic first Black president" as a racial healing.

And they still haven't learned.  Nikki Haley is celebrated as the first governor of her *protected status*, including that of "woman", as is Allen West, Marco Rubio and so on.

I've been urging against this for what seems like forever, and have consistently been told that WE need to play it this way because the Left does.  Feh.

I see why the temptation exists. But as temptation almost always goes, there is a price to pay for succumbing. In this case, it is, as you say, evident in my member diary. Going along with the notion that race is a factor gives the Left the weapon they need to always, always make race a factor. And that's immoral.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 06, 2012, 02:45:41 PM
And now an intellectual interlude from the racist left (http://instagram.com/p/QYGWYpP9Pd/). Click on the link to see why they aren't voting for Romney and why they are voting for BO.

Teaser...#5 Reason to vote for BO: Michelle has a fat ass.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 06, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
And now an intellectual interlude from the racist left (http://instagram.com/p/QYGWYpP9Pd/). Click on the link to see why they aren't voting for Romney and why they are voting for BO.

Teaser...#5 Reason to vote for BO: Michelle has a fat ass.

And the writer of that crap has a fat head.  Yo.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 06, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
An indictment. (http://www.city-journal.org/2012/eon1005ak.html) Of the myth and the media industry that created it.

Quote
The mystery Obama—the hollow receptacle of out-sized fantasies left and right—is not a creation of his own making, political chameleon though he may well be. It emanates instead from a journalistic community that no longer in any way fulfills its designated function, that no longer even attempts the fair presentation of facts and current events aimed at helping the American electorate make up its mind according to its own lights. Rather, left-wing outlets like the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, and the like have now devoted themselves to fashioning an image of the world they think their audiences ought to believe in—that they may guide us toward voting as they think we should. They have fallen prey to that ideological corruption that sees lies as a kind of virtue, as a noble deception in service to a greater good.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 06, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
That "greater good" is also a deception, for which they have invented and fallen, lock stock and barrel.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2012, 07:38:38 PM
"Obama’s hapless fumbling, bad temper, and inarticulate inability to defend his record were actually thoroughly predictable. They were simply facets of the man as he truly is, unfiltered by the imagination of his media supporters: a man who has succeeded, really, at almost nothing but the winning of elections; a man who cannot distinguish between his ideology and life; a man who does not seem to know how the machinery of the world actually works."

Sounds like the antagonist in an Ayn Rand novel, but it sure does fit!  !

Bambi Meets Godzilla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCUBVS4kfQ#)

50 sec mark.   ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2012, 07:24:27 AM
Check this out!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/suffolk_calls_nc_va_fl_for_romney_will_no_longer_poll_states.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/suffolk_calls_nc_va_fl_for_romney_will_no_longer_poll_states.html)

If these three states are solid for Romney then O'Bongo/Bidet is in deep trouble!  I would expect states in the Rustbelt to be the next battle ground, and I think I saw something recently that said MI was now in play.  It could be shaping up to be a major rout. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
I really really hope the SCoaMF sticks to this bullsh*t meme...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/president-obama-insists-fundamentals-of-election-favor-him-despite-bad-night-at-debate/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/president-obama-insists-fundamentals-of-election-favor-him-despite-bad-night-at-debate/)

...I mean what is his argument?  "Uhh, Gov. Romney is not who he says he is, he's mean, he's for legislating the womb, he's for enslaving minorities or just killing them, he's not being honest at all!"  Yeah, uhh huh, riiiight.  "Fundamentals favor me, we got growth, uhh, green shoots, and people like me and like their healthcare, and uhh, I'm responsible for free phones and contraceptives for people, and if not for me the disasterous Bush/Romney/Ryan Republican policies of the past we would be a lot worse off now than we are and I can't prove that but its true because I said it and I am not lying like Romney is, and uhh umm voting for me means you're not a racist!"

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, stick to that SCoaMF and another whuppin' is guaranteed!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 11, 2012, 03:21:05 AM
Now is the time to prove as a nation we can "un" elect a black president.

Al Sharpton was hoping it would be one of those entitlements which would never go away .
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Now is the time to prove as a nation we can "un" elect a black president.

Al Sharpton was hoping it would be one of those entitlements which would never go away .

I thought something seemed odd...the Justice Bro's sure have been quiet this cycle, eh?  Of course I don't watch FoxNews much now, I know Al was always one of their favorite idiots to invite on shows, but listening to Beck, Rush etc...both those race-baiting pimps have been really quiet.  Perhaps they know Duh Wun is Dun and are fine with that, he's been cutting into their shakedown action too much anyway!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 11, 2012, 12:18:12 PM
Now is the time to prove as a nation we can "un" elect a black president.

Al Sharpton was hoping it would be one of those entitlements which would never go away .

I thought something seemed odd...the Justice Bro's sure have been quiet this cycle, eh?  Of course I don't watch FoxNews much now, I know Al was always one of their favorite idiots to invite on shows, but listening to Beck, Rush etc...both those race-baiting pimps have been really quiet.  Perhaps they know Duh Wun is Dun and are fine with that, he's been cutting into their shakedown action too much anyway!

 ::hysterical::

Oh we'll hear from them after the defeat.....This is nothing but a political ploy. No need to cum out da bushes just yet.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2012, 06:15:52 PM
Now is the time to prove as a nation we can "un" elect a black president.

Al Sharpton was hoping it would be one of those entitlements which would never go away .

I thought something seemed odd...the Justice Bro's sure have been quiet this cycle, eh?  Of course I don't watch FoxNews much now, I know Al was always one of their favorite idiots to invite on shows, but listening to Beck, Rush etc...both those race-baiting pimps have been really quiet.  Perhaps they know Duh Wun is Dun and are fine with that, he's been cutting into their shakedown action too much anyway!

 ::hysterical::

Oh we'll hear from them after the defeat.....This is nothing but a political ploy. No need to cum out da bushes just yet.

Yes, cowards always come out after the fact and tout how right they were once the dust settles...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 14, 2012, 11:17:41 PM
Link (http://riehlworldview.com/2012/10/window-display-in-n-j-store-that-depicts-obama-as-witch-doctor-gets-mixed-reviews-nj-com.html)

(http://riehlworldview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/11683096-large.jpg)

A Monmouth County business owners window display which depicts President Barack Obama as a witch doctor is generating support and outrage.The display in a window of Skuby & Co. Lifestyle Clothing in Spring Lake includes an image of the presidents head superimposed on the body of a witch doctor above the word “ObamaCare.”

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 07:39:10 AM
 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 07:43:43 AM
Oh, and with respect to tomorrow nights debate...

Nobody wants Candy -

(http://markhalperin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/candy_crowley_nv_1014.jpg)

OK, who is good at photoshop and can have a harpoon stuck in its back?

http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/14/moderator-role-under-scrutiny-before-the-debate/ (http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/14/moderator-role-under-scrutiny-before-the-debate/)

I hear Obama is studying really really hard!  (Yeah, Choom Club hard?)   ::hysterical::  I hear he is going to a) be more aggressive and b) offer a more passionate defense of his policies...

Heh, seems to me Mitt should be preparing to bait and ambush the SCoaMF, throw him off his game and make him spit, stutter and stammer some more.   ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 15, 2012, 09:11:29 AM
Quote
I hear he is going to a) be more aggressive and b) offer a more passionate defense of his policies...


^^That makes lies true then?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Quote
I hear he is going to a) be more aggressive and b) offer a more passionate defense of his policies...


^^That makes lies true then?

To a libiot?  Truth?  The latter is immaterial, per the Democrat-Media Complex any non-Democrat by definition is a liar, a racist and a non-person, period.  All their idiot has to do is show up and look like he knows something other than jack sh*t and cares more than the racist lying Republican...in their eyes only racists and mean 'ol SOB's focus on things like facts, truth...anything close to reality.

I guess O'Bongo's plan this time is "clean and articulate" Part Duh!

Who ya gonna believe, your own experience and intelligence or the neked magnificence of the Duh Wun?!   ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 11:45:22 AM
Andy S - Bidet didn't help...O'Bongo still plummeting to earth faster than Felix Baumgartner!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/andrew-sullivan-obama-still-declining-biden-didnt-help/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/andrew-sullivan-obama-still-declining-biden-didnt-help/)

Don't worry guys, ya won't feel a thing!   ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 15, 2012, 12:38:28 PM
Oh, and with respect to tomorrow nights debate...

Nobody wants Candy -

(http://markhalperin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/candy_crowley_nv_1014.jpg)

OK, who is good at photoshop and can have a harpoon stuck in its back?

Oh, man.....somebody blow the whistle and march the ball back five yards for unnecessary roughness!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 15, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
obama's ace in the hole wants a bigger piece of the pie. She needs that piece of pie to deflect anything which makes The One look bad. The double team is on. That, and i'm sure the repubs will bend over and allow the audience to be stacked.

Romney better be prepared to be called a liar and be prepared to return the favor.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2012, 04:21:50 PM
Oh, and with respect to tomorrow nights debate...

Nobody wants Candy -

(http://markhalperin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/candy_crowley_nv_1014.jpg)

I'm confused. I was under the impression she had choked on a ham sandwich.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2012, 04:44:05 PM
That's a terrible slam against Cass Elliot.

Look...this debate cannot be anything better for BO than a draw. And that isn't good enough. First impressions are almost impossible to overcome and the impression that BO created of himself in the first debate is more or less set in stone at this point. If the damage even could be undone it needed to happen last week. Instead they spent it making excuses for his lame ass behavior and then underscored it with a performance by Vice President Ass Clown.

So, be at peace. Things are going well. Quite well.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 15, 2012, 05:04:41 PM
I'm looking forward to the debate. If obama, or better yet, Romney delivers the goods again, I'm immediately turning to BSNBC because odds are I'll watch ed shultz have a heart attack on air.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 15, 2012, 05:25:42 PM

Great idea!

Are we going to have enough attendees to live blog this time?

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
I hope so CO, if I can type and read it means having to see the SCoaMF less and that can only be a good thing for my health and my TV!

Re: Ed, he's too brain-dead already to realize he's had a heart attack until hours later!

I expect Barry to trot out the 47% BS and other class warfare garbage, Bain, all the stuff that has failed massively and his losses among indy's and women will multiply.  Plus, this format will be favor the emotional element for libiots so that will be the avenue to the morons talking points.  Look for most answers by Barry to be emotive pleadings and panderings and press the class warfare mantra to the hilt.  Mitt should plan accordingly.

Hey, did ya hear that Jean F'n Kerry is still his debate coach?   ::hysterical:: 

So much for that avenue of blame, they must think Lurch is a winner!   ::laughonfloor::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
In other news...

Twitter is aglitter with threats of riots if O'Bongo is not returned to office...

http://www.infowars.com/new-threats-to-riot-if-obama-loses-election/ (http://www.infowars.com/new-threats-to-riot-if-obama-loses-election/)

Perhaps I scare less than others, perhaps I see this as pure BS with nothing to back it up, perhaps (and most likely) it is both.  Go ahead morons, riot, see how that works out for ya!

 ::)   ::mooning::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 06:35:11 PM
A great, just like an unwanted hemorroid flare up, here's Calypso Louie spouting off!

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/10/15/171494/farrakhan-chides-obama-rips-gop.html (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/10/15/171494/farrakhan-chides-obama-rips-gop.html)

Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, epublicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, epublicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, epublicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, epublicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists, Republicans are racists...

(Sounds of snoring)

Oh, here we go!

“You aren’t going to win any more white votes by being kind and gracious,” he said. “Be a little black.”

 ::hysterical::

In marking the 17th anniversary of his 1995 Million Man March on Washington, D.C., Farrakhan was scheduled to talk about the economy and a Muslim “blueprint for ending need and want.”

Up yours, race-pimping/7th century savage-shilling punk!  GTFO of my country!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
If this is 4% for Mitt as it stands, it likely is greater than that by perhpas twice as much!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/)

Barry and the Crash Test Dummy are more than veering into the ditch, they could be overturned and drowning...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2012, 07:29:18 PM
VDH (http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-obama-breaking-point/?singlepage=true) sums up my belief about this election...

Quote
Was it the blame-gaming — “Bush did it!,” ATMs are at fault, tsunamis are the culprit, no other administration has had such challenges, the euro meltdown is to blame, earthquakes shook our confidence — that finally turned the country off of Obama?

For the last two years, millions of Americans have grown, ever so insidiously, tired of Barack Obama and his administration. The Tea Party brought such frustrations to the fore. And now the debates — and the ability of Romney to show millions that he is a decent, competent alternative to Obama rather than the caricatured greedy white man of Obama’s sleazy ads — are closing the deal.

In the first debate, Romney was not just far better-informed and spoken, but far more likeable. Joe Biden’s frenzied rudeness was the sort of debate performance that mesmerizes one by its very boorishness, eliciting a weird reaction in the room like “Come over and check this out: I can’t believe the Vice president of the United States is trumping The Joker” (after all, the sick Joker is more entertaining that the sober and judicious Batman) — but within hours leaves a bitter aftertaste in the mouth of something along the lines of “Surely, we could have done better than that rude buffoon?”

The election is not over, but it is starting to resemble October 29 or November 1 in 1980, when, after just one debate, the nation at last decided that it really did not like Jimmy Carter very much or what he had done, and discovered that Ronald Reagan was not the mad Dr. Strangelove/Jefferson Davis of the Carter summer television ads. Like Carter, Obama both has no wish to defend his record (who would?) and is just as petulant. In the next three weeks, he has only three hours left to save his presidency.

That's the opening. Read it all.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
Classic VDH, Trap!   ::thumbsup::

Vero possumus, vote him out!   ::whoohoo::

And it is more than a Bradley Effect, too many see Obama for who and what he is, the problem with incumbent democrats is the wake of damage left behind as a result of their inherently destructive policies.  He can lie, dance, laugh, rant and point at Romney all he wants, it does not distract people from seeing the neked Emperor.  He is 100% exposed, vulnerable, battered, bleeding and supremely desperate.  No amount of Cloward-Piven takkiya or Alinskyite machinations can save him now.  Sans illegal act, he is a one-and-doner who should have been a never-doner!

The Chicago street thug raised by feral Marxists is at the end of his infamy.  The sooner he is out the better!

ETA - I wonder if we'll see the real Obama in the debate tomorrow night?  

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/12/a-history-of-obamas-violent-rhetoric/ (http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/12/a-history-of-obamas-violent-rhetoric/)

Oh, and don't forget the "bitter clinger" and "redistributionist" shots!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2012, 09:02:29 PM
j.E. Dyer at HotAir has a very well reasoned piece (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/15/why-obama-is-likely-to-blow-debate-2/) on why BO won't do better in the next debates. It echoes my sentiments.

Quote
The short answer is: because he’s got nothing.  There is no record to run on, no argument to make for four more years.  The ideology that drives him is outdated and bankrupt.  He has, in fact, implemented his policies – Republicans have had little means of stopping him – and those policies are the problem.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2012, 09:20:20 PM
And no, it will not help that HRC is "taking the fall" for Benghazi. I'm not sure what the motivation for her is but it is NOT going to help the admin and it's NOT going to help the re-election effort. Not one bit.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2012, 09:26:38 PM
Terminal velocity, the ride is over.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on October 15, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Classic VDH, Trap!   ::thumbsup::

Vero possumus, vote him out!   ::whoohoo::

And it is more than a Bradley Effect, too many see Obama for who and what he is, the problem with incumbent democrats is the wake of damage left behind as a result of their inherently destructive policies.  He can lie, dance, laugh, rant and point at Romney all he wants, it does not distract people from seeing the neked Emperor.  He is 100% exposed, vulnerable, battered, bleeding and supremely desperate.  No amount of Cloward-Piven takkiya or Alinskyite machinations can save him now.  Sans illegal act, he is a one-and-doner who should have been a never-doner!

The Chicago street thug raised by feral Marxists is at the end of his infamy.  The sooner he is out the better!


This makes me wonder, if the extremists on the left could create obama and put him in the position of power he occupies, how many more of these extremist Manchurian candidates could there be and at what stages will we see them ataining some level of power.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 15, 2012, 09:51:26 PM


Paul Ryan Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyrN17jAiDw#ws)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2012, 10:00:20 PM
Oh please tootsie.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 15, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
Good Lord. Camel-toe at :50.

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 07:10:08 AM
Classic VDH, Trap!   ::thumbsup::

Vero possumus, vote him out!   ::whoohoo::

And it is more than a Bradley Effect, too many see Obama for who and what he is, the problem with incumbent democrats is the wake of damage left behind as a result of their inherently destructive policies.  He can lie, dance, laugh, rant and point at Romney all he wants, it does not distract people from seeing the neked Emperor.  He is 100% exposed, vulnerable, battered, bleeding and supremely desperate.  No amount of Cloward-Piven takkiya or Alinskyite machinations can save him now.  Sans illegal act, he is a one-and-doner who should have been a never-doner!

The Chicago street thug raised by feral Marxists is at the end of his infamy.  The sooner he is out the better!


This makes me wonder, if the extremists on the left could create obama and put him in the position of power he occupies, how many more of these extremist Manchurian candidates could there be and at what stages will we see them ataining some level of power.

More than I care to think about.  Just look at what is in the US Congress and in state houses and capitol buildings and cities and counties...I see some that if they float to the top I dearly hope get sunk back down!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 07:29:49 AM
PA too close to call.  Good, that means O'Bongo is in trouble there as well.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807 (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807)

Bitter clingers seeking payback, giving Mitt a huge lead in rural areas in battle ground states.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties (http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties)

Heh, NPR probably threw up a little pulling that story together!   ::cool::

Mitt fighting O'Bongo in WI to ensure all military votes are counted.   ::USA::

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/)

FWIW - Ross Perot passes on O'Bongo and endorses Romney.  Could influence some Indy's.   ::thumbsup:: 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/)

The O'Bongo beat-down continues!   ::asskicking::

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 16, 2012, 10:23:10 AM
Quote
Add all this up, and millions of voters — quietly, on their own, without much communication — are becoming wearied by Obama, in a way that is quite miraculous. They are coming to the conclusion not just that it is now OK to vote against Obama, but that even if it is not politically correct, they don’t much care anymore.


 ::cool::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 16, 2012, 11:01:20 AM
...
...
...
FWIW - Ross Perot passes on O'Bongo and endorses Romney.  Could influence some Indy's.   ::thumbsup:: 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/)

The O'Bongo beat-down continues!   ::asskicking::

 ::whoohoo::

Perot is much respected by Libertarians, his endorsement will mute Ron Paul.
Somewhat.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 16, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
PA too close to call.  Good, that means O'Bongo is in trouble there as well.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807 (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807)

Bitter clingers seeking payback, giving Mitt a huge lead in rural areas in battle ground states.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties (http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties)

Heh, NPR probably threw up a little pulling that story together!   ::cool::

Mitt fighting O'Bongo in WI to ensure all military votes are counted.   ::USA::

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/)

FWIW - Ross Perot passes on O'Bongo and endorses Romney.  Could influence some Indy's.   ::thumbsup:: 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/)

The O'Bongo beat-down continues!   ::asskicking::

 ::whoohoo::

About that "O'Bongo", I've just been informed it's raaaacist.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
PA too close to call.  Good, that means O'Bongo is in trouble there as well.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807 (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=1807)

Bitter clingers seeking payback, giving Mitt a huge lead in rural areas in battle ground states.   ::thumbsup::

http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties (http://www.npr.org/2012/10/16/162979856/poll-romney-near-landslide-in-rural-swing-counties)

Heh, NPR probably threw up a little pulling that story together!   ::cool::

Mitt fighting O'Bongo in WI to ensure all military votes are counted.   ::USA::

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/romney-campaign-files-federal-suit-to-ensure-all-military-ballots-count-in-wisconsin/)

FWIW - Ross Perot passes on O'Bongo and endorses Romney.  Could influence some Indy's.   ::thumbsup::  

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/)

The O'Bongo beat-down continues!   ::asskicking::

 ::whoohoo::

About that "O'Bongo", I've just been informed it's raaaacist.

Tone?!   ::cussing::  Who's the fink?  Lemme at 'em!  Lemme at 'em! 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 16, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
Local forum.  The resident Lefties see it as their jobs to police the language for probable and possible racism.

Apparently, the Stormfront types have taken to calling SCoaMF Obongo and because they do it, in conjunction with other n-words and such, it's now RACIST.

I don't care.  Actually, I do care.  Nobody appointed these assholes official language guardians against racist words, thoughts or otherwise and I will not comply.  I aim to misbehave.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 11:54:21 AM
Oh, them.   ::vafancoul::

 ;)

Give 'em your tag line and tell them not to piss off the bitter clingers!

 ::evilbat::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 16, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
Oh, I gave one the tag line.  Know what she said?  "I know who you are and if I disappear I've told the Sheriff where to look for my body".

She doesn't know who I am and I wouldn't touch her body, in any state, with a ten foot pole but she's chosen to interpret the line as a personal threat.  This is who these stinkin' people are.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 12:10:14 PM
Buwuuuhaahaaa!  Yeah, like all mouthy leftists, they cannot back up their own stuff, their favorite move is to place a call to the bureaucracy and have minions do their harrassing.  Cowards.  She obviously has the cognitive ability not much different than a squirrel!

I'd be half tempted to reply to that ridiculous statement with a simple "What body?"!   ::rimshot::

Thank you, I'll be here the rest of the week, don't forget to tip your waitress.   ;D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 08:22:37 AM
US Govt $2m. 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/wired-campaign-widget/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/wired-campaign-widget/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 03:34:30 PM
The end is near.

The suffering is almost at an end.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28519689.jpg)

Have patience.

Have faith.

Wait for it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 04:47:58 PM
So I thought that I would put a clothespin on my nose, strap on a pair of waders and have a look at Daily Kos...specifically at Raptavio's comments. Today they are beating their chests about the inspired performance of BO at last night's debate.

Raptavio is trying to quell panic over the latest Gallup poll by chanting the mantra, "Believe in Nick Silver." I'm not sure how well that works when the DK/PPP poll is showing a Romney leadAs well but there is no point in arguing with "superior" minds.

As an aside, one of there commenters claims that the Gallup result is based solely on a R+22 sample for the south and that BO was up on the north east and west regions. I couldn't find that data at Gallup. Hard to believe that Gallup would do that, though.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 05:23:41 PM
Okay, found it. The  reference (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx) was from the body of the article...duh.

They really know how to pick their rays of sunshine, though. Here is the summary:


Quote
With three weeks to go in the campaign, Obama appears to be losing momentum, and now trails Romney by four percentage points among likely voters. That contrasts with his seven-point win over McCain in 2008. Given this shift in overall voter preferences, it follows that Obama will have lost support among at least some subgroups of the electorate. Those losses are not proportionate across all subgroups, however. He shed the most support among Southerners, college graduates, postgraduates, 30- to 49-year-olds, men, and Protestants. He also lost a moderate amount of support among whites, Easterners, women, and Catholics -- while not building new support elsewhere.

So, yeah...Nate Silver!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 17, 2012, 05:59:03 PM

 Oklahoma? No.  whew


We need a one-party Obama dictatorship!

OSU Student: We need a one-party Obama dictatorship! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPwE5hJAjx8#ws)


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 17, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
So I thought that I would put a clothespin on my nose, strap on a pair of waders and have a look at Daily Kos...specifically at Raptavio's comments. Today they are beating their chests about the inspired performance of BO at last night's debate.

Raptavio is trying to quell panic over the latest Gallup poll by chanting the mantra, "Believe in Nick Silver." I'm not sure how well that works when the DK/PPP poll is showing a Romney leadAs well but there is no point in arguing with "superior" minds.

As an aside, one of there commenters claims that the Gallup result is based solely on a R+22 sample for the south and that BO was up on the north east and west regions. I couldn't find that data at Gallup. Hard to believe that Gallup would do that, though.

   JEEEBUS don't use his name.Remember Beetlejuice.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on October 17, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
US Govt $2m. 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/wired-campaign-widget/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/wired-campaign-widget/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

Check Duh one and Mitt.  They can't say he's buying the election. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 07:22:52 PM
   JEEEBUS don't use his name.Remember Beetlejuice.

I purposefully used his name. I know for a fact that he performs periodic searches to see what's being said about him. So, yeah...I want the big fag to see it. Drop dead, Raptavio.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Raptavio must be Latin for that stuff I scrape off my shoe...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 17, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
   JEEEBUS don't use his name.Remember Beetlejuice.

I purposefully used his name. I know for a fact that he performs periodic searches to see what's being said about him. So, yeah...I want the big fag to see it. Drop dead, Raptavio.

To each his own. I will never have the pleasure of registering my disgust in person so I don't see why I should bother investing the energy.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
Okay, so here's the thing on the Gallup poll "details."

Yes, it's true that today's poll uses (among others) the following numbers:

                      Oct. 2008        Oct 2012
                      BO McDud       BO Romney

East                   57   43          52   48               +14     +4
Midwest              53   47          52   48               +6      +4
South                 50   50          39   61                0       -22
West                  55   45          53   47               +10    +6

What the cretins at DK don't want to see (or think about) is that in 2008 the south did not matter. It was a draw. BO beat McDud by seven points in 2008 and he did it with the other numbers. Four years later BO has lost ten points in the east, two points in the midwest and four points in the west. I don't see any areas of the country where BO hasn't lost ground...he just happens to have lost more ground in the south.

It's worth reading the rest of the data (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx) that goes along with the Gallup numbers. BO is up with post college grads, under 30-year-olds and non-caucasians. Just about every other demo or category he is down in.

What is troubling is that Rassmussen (which has tended to be more historically accurate) is not showing this pulling away by Romney. Not yet. Rassmussen has Romney over BO by 49% to 48% with 2% undecided. What is very troubling is the swing state tracking poll that shows BO over Romney by 50% to 47%. I don't know how he puts these things together. But it's troubling.

But tomorrow is another day and another likely voter poll.


EDIT: I would be interested to know how the table functions work. If anyone knows how to format a table or can figure it out I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 17, 2012, 10:28:57 PM

He has white, non-Hispanic and non-white (including Hispanic) but
no Hispanic.  What's up Gallup, with the all important Hispanic demographic?

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
Mary Katherine Ham has some poll analysis in this post (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/17/gallup-tracker-romney-up-6-with-likely-voters-up-2-with-registered/) at HotAir.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 18, 2012, 07:32:37 AM
The fact that it's close and not a slam-dunk against a blatant Marxist is something that to me spells disaster for the future, regardless of the outcome of this election.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 18, 2012, 07:37:50 AM
 ::bustamove::F
The fact that it's close and not a slam-dunk against a blatant Marxist is something that to me spells disaster for the future, regardless of the outcome of this election.

My brother laments this every time we speak. Even if romney wins a close election, very fact it's close spells trouble.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 09:51:59 AM
Well, my personal gut feeling is that it will NOT be close...that it will be a blowout.

There is, of course, new Rassmussen data out today and it shows post debate improvement for Romney, up another point over BO. I would advise reading Ed Morrissey's take on it here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/18/romney-edge-expands-post-debate-in-rasmussen-tracking-poll/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 18, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Well, my personal gut feeling is that it will NOT be close...that it will be a blowout.


One of my daughters' Hillsdale  professors Dr. Paul Rahe has written extensively on how he believes the same thing.  He was predicting the 2010 results when others were not.

There is, of course, new Rassmussen data out today and it shows post debate improvement for Romney, up another point over BO. I would advise reading Ed Morrissey's take on it here. (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/18/romney-edge-expands-post-debate-in-rasmussen-tracking-poll/)

Quote
Also, the gender gap now favors Romney rather than Obama.  In 2008?s exit polling, Obama won women by 13 points and men by one for a +14 gender gap over John McCain and a seven-point victory overall.  In the tracking poll data, Rasmussen reports that Obama only leads among women by four and trails among men by 10 for a -6 gender gap.  That’s a flip of 19 points, combined with a 17-point flip among independents.
 
Those are daunting numbers for Obama.  Combine those with the enthusiasm changes since 2008, and it’s not difficult to imagine that Romney’s actual lead might be significantly wider than the +2 overall here.  At least in the first round of data, it doesn’t appear that the debate on Tuesday night did Obama any good.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 10:22:58 AM
I really dislike all the poll-talk, although I get that some people find it very interesting.  It just makes me uneasy.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 18, 2012, 10:36:42 AM
I really dislike all the poll-talk, although I get that some people find it very interesting.  It just makes me uneasy.

Polls are bullsh*t, at least the ones we see and hear about, especially with a sampling error of D + Gazillion.  The internals of a campaign, now those I would like to see.  But really, polls are being used now to push propaganda and suppress the vote as well.  When the polls are egregiously wrong, who pays for it?  Whose heads roll?  Yeah, thought so, too.

And I don't believe that 'undecided' crapola, either.  We've become afraid to speak our minds to strangers on the phone, and with good reason.  That's why no one is willing to be adamant about voting the commie rat bastard out of office.  That would be racist or something.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 18, 2012, 11:50:12 AM
I really dislike all the poll-talk, although I get that some people find it very interesting.  It just makes me uneasy.

Polls are bullsh*t, at least the ones we see and hear about, especially with a sampling error of D + Gazillion.  The internals of a campaign, now those I would like to see.  But really, polls are being used now to push propaganda and suppress the vote as well.  When the polls are egregiously wrong, who pays for it?  Whose heads roll?  Yeah, thought so, too.

And I don't believe that 'undecided' crapola, either.  We've become afraid to speak our minds to strangers on the phone, and with good reason.  That's why no one is willing to be adamant about voting the commie rat bastard out of office.  That would be racist or something.


Rick I agree....obama and his minions have so polarized the nation, using claims of racism and bigotry, that I believe there are significient numbers of people who will not allow thier true thoughts to be recorded.

Which is sad....My gov't needs to fear me, not me fear my gov't.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 18, 2012, 12:11:08 PM
I really dislike all the poll-talk, although I get that some people find it very interesting.  It just makes me uneasy.

Polls are bullsh*t, at least the ones we see and hear about, especially with a sampling error of D + Gazillion.  The internals of a campaign, now those I would like to see.  But really, polls are being used now to push propaganda and suppress the vote as well.  When the polls are egregiously wrong, who pays for it?  Whose heads roll?  Yeah, thought so, too.

And I don't believe that 'undecided' crapola, either.  We've become afraid to speak our minds to strangers on the phone, and with good reason.  That's why no one is willing to be adamant about voting the commie rat bastard out of office.  That would be racist or something.


Rick I agree....obama and his minions have so polarized the nation, using claims of racism and bigotry, that I believe there are significient numbers of people who will not allow thier true thoughts to be recorded.

Which is sad....My gov't needs to fear me, not me fear my gov't.

Problem is, it's not the government who makes all the threats.  When the Truth becomes a radical idea, everyone is a target.  It's not the government calling them 'racists' they fear.  It's the mob they fear and the mentality that we have seen exhibited from such thugs time and time again.  It doesn't matter if it's ACORN or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or goonions or the ACLU or whichever leftist group is offended at the moment, they are all there to create fear in freely and publically speaking about that rotten scoundrel, The Truth.  Meanwhile, The Law looks the other way when threats and actual violence takes place (the goonions getting off in the beating of Gladney in St. Louis).  I have read many comments that campaign signs are down, with Romney in the lead; same for bumper stickers.  Why make a target of yourself or your property to the Leftist 'peace loving' goons?  My gut feeling is that people are hunkering down, trying to be invisible; lying to telephone pollsters is just one more example of trying to be invisible.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 12:22:22 PM
The silent and unseen majority.  As long as they show up at the polls in droves and a burning passion to send the SCoaMF packing!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 12:31:42 PM
I admit to not putting a magnetic Romney sticker on my truck because I don't want my vehicle vandalized, but I refuse to speak to - or listen to -- pollsters out of "it's none of your G.D. business", not fear. 

It's the same as dealing with the census -- residents:  2, and that's all I'm telling them -- and the first question I ask anyone who wants information from me, "why and what do you want it for?"  No, I'm not giving you my phone number or zipcode at the cash register, and no, I'm not giving you my social security number in order to see the doctor, and it's none of your business why I buy 55 lb. bags of sugar.

So, while I enjoy thinking sometimes that I'm one of the most ornery around, maybe a lot of other folks are looking at the repeated attempts to acquire personal information from them and have just had enough.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
I admit to not putting a magnetic Romney sticker on my truck because I don't want my vehicle vandalized, but I refuse to speak to - or listen to -- pollsters out of "it's none of your G.D. business", not fear. 

It's the same as dealing with the census -- residents:  2, and that's all I'm telling them -- and the first question I ask anyone who wants information from me, "why and what do you want it for?"  No, I'm not giving you my phone number or zipcode at the cash register, and no, I'm not giving you my social security number in order to see the doctor, and it's none of your business why I buy 55 lb. bags of sugar.

So, while I enjoy thinking sometimes that I'm one of the most ornery around, maybe a lot of other folks are looking at the repeated attempts to acquire personal information from them and have just had enough.

Oh, you are not alone.  INTRUSIVENESS is a big no-no for a lot of us! 

Hmm, even though I like the message it conveys, not sure my car is something I can put the Yosemite Sam "Back Off" mudflaps on, but if I get a pick up truck!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 18, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
the census -- residents:  2, and that's all I'm telling them --

hehehe    More than I told.  My genealogist-daughter said I screwed up the family history that will be available in 68 years when the 2010 census is released.  I hope someone cares in 68 years!

I don't give out phone, email, etc, either. 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
I remind everyone that Romney is trending up with the D+ samples.

Four different polls show Romney with a TWENTY point lead with white voters...hasn't happened for a Republican since 1984. Sort of makes ANY Democrat advantage with Hispanics irrelevant.

Again, I say, "Be of good cheer. The end is near."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
the census -- residents:  2, and that's all I'm telling them --

hehehe    More than I told.  My genealogist-daughter said I screwed up the family history that will be available in 68 years when the 2010 census is released.  I hope someone cares in 68 years!

I don't give out phone, email, etc, either. 

Oh, that's another one!  "Do you have email?"  What's it to ya?  "NO."  Because that's just what I want, more junk email.  "Is this your only phone number?"  Like I'm going to give the TracPhone cell number too, but I know folks who do, for the asking.

And shame on you for screwing up the family history.    ::falldownshocked::   ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 18, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
I really dislike all the poll-talk, although I get that some people find it very interesting.  It just makes me uneasy.

Polls are bullsh*t, at least the ones we see and hear about, especially with a sampling error of D + Gazillion.  The internals of a campaign, now those I would like to see.  But really, polls are being used now to push propaganda and suppress the vote as well.  When the polls are egregiously wrong, who pays for it?  Whose heads roll?  Yeah, thought so, too.

And I don't believe that 'undecided' crapola, either.  We've become afraid to speak our minds to strangers on the phone, and with good reason.  That's why no one is willing to be adamant about voting the commie rat bastard out of office.  That would be racist or something.


Rick I agree....obama and his minions have so polarized the nation, using claims of racism and bigotry, that I believe there are significient numbers of people who will not allow thier true thoughts to be recorded.

Which is sad....My gov't needs to fear me, not me fear my gov't.

Problem is, it's not the government who makes all the threats.  When the Truth becomes a radical idea, everyone is a target.  It's not the government calling them 'racists' they fear.  It's the mob they fear and the mentality that we have seen exhibited from such thugs time and time again.  It doesn't matter if it's ACORN or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or goonions or the ACLU or whichever leftist group is offended at the moment, they are all there to create fear in freely and publically speaking about that rotten scoundrel, The Truth.  Meanwhile, The Law looks the other way when threats and actual violence takes place (the goonions getting off in the beating of Gladney in St. Louis).  I have read many comments that campaign signs are down, with Romney in the lead; same for bumper stickers.  Why make a target of yourself or your property to the Leftist 'peace loving' goons?  My gut feeling is that people are hunkering down, trying to be invisible; lying to telephone pollsters is just one more example of trying to be invisible.


No, Gov't doesn't make all the threats...but it is this gov't in particular which has emboldened The ACORNS of this nation to operate with impunity....But I do not disagree with one word of your post. Most people want to be left alone, imo. Go to work, come home, be with family and live thier life, but we are witness to a fundemental change in our nation, and not just toward a socialist America.

I believe its also difficult for average Joe to think of what might be the consequence of an obama defeat. The left always talks about voter intimidation or following the LAW to vote.....But the two goons in Philly, clubs in hand, is in my opinion the REAL America the left wants, good people too afraid to come out and vote. Leftists want us to be quiet, sure, but if they keep us from the polls they win.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 18, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
"Is this your only phone number?" 

Yes, yes, it is.  I don't mention I don't answer that number.  I screen all calls.

As for the family history--I'm sure I exist in hundreds of government records already.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 18, 2012, 01:38:26 PM
Once I learned that roughly only 9% of people contacted to be surveyed in a poll actually respond to the questions, that changed my entire outlook on polls.

The numbers are representative not just of "likely voters" or "registered voters" or "adults" or what have you. The overriding qualifying caveat is that poll results are exclusively the 9% of people who are inclined to respond to a poll. Whether those 9% are representative of the general population at large is, I think, extremely questionable.

So I think polls are useful for those who are seeking trends, or who feel the need for some kind of indicator. But they prove nothing, and should give neither comfort or discomfort; encouragement or discouragement. They just are.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 18, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
"Is this your only phone number?" 

Yes, yes, it is.  I don't mention I don't answer that number.  I screen all calls.

As for the family history--I'm sure I exist in hundreds of government records already.

You obviously haven't studied at the Alphabet Soup school of Passive Aggressive Defense  ;D

My older brother hated that I perfected PA because he is an "in your face" alpha type who had zero time for pretense (he was also several years older than I, substantially bigger, and much more aggressive than me).

Gubmit Drone: Do you have more than one phone number?

Me: why do you ask?

Gubmit Drone: In case we need to contact you.

Me: Why would you need to do that?

Gubmit Drone: In case there was something that needed to be clarified.

Me: Was I not clear in my answers?

Gubmit Drone: No, I mean yes - you were clear, but in case we have other questions.

Me: If you have questions why not ask me now?

Gubmit Drone: Well, I don't know.... What about email?

Me: What about email?

Gubmit Drone: Yes, do you have email?

Me: Yes.

Gubmit Drone: Well...

Me: (silently staring at gubmint drone with look of increasing impatience)

Gubmit Drone: Could we have your email?

Me: No.

Gubmit Drone: Why not?

Me: Why do you want it?

Gubmit Drone: In case we need to contact you.

Me: Why would you need to contact me?

Gubmit Drone: (head exploding)

(I live to torment)  ::evil::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
Once I learned that roughly only 9% of people contacted to be surveyed in a poll actually respond to the questions, that changed my entire outlook on polls.

The numbers are representative not just of "likely voters" or "registered voters" or "adults" or what have you. The overriding qualifying caveat is that poll results are exclusively the 9% of people who are inclined to respond to a poll. Whether those 9% are representative of the general population at large is, I think, extremely questionable.

So I think polls are useful for those who are seeking trends, or who feel the need for some kind of indicator. But they prove nothing, and should give neither comfort or discomfort; encouragement or discouragement. They just are.

This is an example of why all the poll-reports make me uneasy ....

"By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  October 17th, 2012 at 03:42 PM  |  84

RESIZE: AAA

For the past couple of months I’ve been under attack from users here and conservatives elsewhere for refusing to believe the polls were rigged. I’ve certainly agreed they’ve been weighted too much for the Democrats and were, consequently, wrong, but I have never thought it was intentional. I saw no sense whining about it as it just makes conservatives sound unhinged and detached from reality."

.... because, despite what you wrote there about 9%, too many people, like Erickson (who also works for CNN) put stock in them, and then they write encouraging or discouraging articles based on the poll numbers.  It seems stupid to me; might as well cast bones and use those results.

And Erickson has been around the block enough times to know cheaters cheat, and Democrats are the biggest cheaters of all.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 06:43:02 PM
Having just taken a break at work and read through HotAir and AoS...


...I gotta say that I am very happy. Sure, the polls are all trending our way now and you can believe them or not BUT there are just so many indicators that are outstanding.

Don't want to go through them now but, holy cow! What a great day.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 06:47:19 PM
I am looking forward to the Intrade price collapse on BO.

Should happen in the next two or three trading days. Five, tops.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Certainly no later than next Tuesday morning.

The "bone casting" has been consistently rigged against conservatives, so on that score I think the trend is more meaningful, regardless of the response rate.  All things being equal there is nothing real going on that is benefiting any kind of significant movement toward Obama, so the logical conclusion he is in major trouble.  Does this mean the Left will give up, stay home, not rig whatb they can, not intimidate, not destroy personal property (Romney signs), not threaten riots if Obama loses or commit fraud?  Of course not, I still predict a banner year for that, but I don't think it can rise to the level where it reverses Obama's immenent political demise.  I am more concerned about them stealing other down ticket races that threaten Congressional and state control.  I am more concerned about Obama nullifying elections and declaring martial law than I am of anything else. I am worried about him going tHugo Chavez.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 18, 2012, 07:47:30 PM

"I am worried about him going tHugo Chavez."

That was a threat but many things are not going his
way and his supporters are notorious wind testers.
 
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 10:53:37 PM
Seriously, though, when you think about it...the BO campaign has been on a pretty bad streak for a long time. All of the stuff that they have tried, while it probably looked pretty clever at the time, has been sh*t.

It really took a downward turn with the "Romney put a dog on top of the car" attack which almost immediately blew up with the "Obama ate a dog" theme. It's been pretty much all down hill after that with the latest items (Big Bird and "binders") being particularly ridiculous.

The BO campaign has resorted to small and silly issues in the final weeks of the race because it's all they have. They don't have a knife to take to the gunfight. No. I'm not sure what metaphor to use in place of gun or knife.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
The faux outrage over "binders" ..... really?  are they serious?  Binders?

Now it's racist to say Chicago, golf, peanut butter, Obamaphone and food-stamp President, and sexist to say binders?!

Get off my lawn.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
I thought of this and damned if somebody out there didn't beat me to it:

(http://www.postbourgie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/trapper-keeper.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 11:16:48 PM
"Gonna put y'all BACK in .... corsets".

Or somethin'.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 18, 2012, 11:24:30 PM

Are we witnessing an Intervention?
One last opportunity to get it right.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 18, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
Everyone knows we men (well, evil white men) want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen. The kitchen is key. Not just for the cooking and cleaning, but because we can't have her water break in a carpeted room.  Tile is much easier for her to clean up.  See, just thinking of the ladies.  We spoil them.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 18, 2012, 11:34:02 PM
How about bind her with blinders? Umm...except the lib women have pretty much volunteered for that treatment from their masters in Democrat leadership. Witness the protection of serial woman abuser Clinton.

None of this makes any sense, of course.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 18, 2012, 11:43:48 PM
Everyone knows we men (well, evil white men) want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen. . . .

Hell, when I married, I would have settled for just 'in the kitchen'.

/One out of three ain't bad.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 19, 2012, 06:57:18 AM
How about bind her with blinders? Umm...except the lib women have pretty much volunteered for that treatment from their masters in Democrat leadership. Witness the protection of serial woman abuser Clinton.

None of this makes any sense, of course.

It never does.  I think Leftists, but especially gals at NAG, are missing the gene that allows them to experience cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 19, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
How about bind her with blinders? Umm...except the lib women have pretty much volunteered for that treatment from their masters in Democrat leadership. Witness the protection of serial woman abuser Clinton.

None of this makes any sense, of course.

It never does.  I think Leftists, but especially gals at NAG, are missing the gene that allows them to experience cognitive dissonance.

 I saw this crud on binders last night and have to ask where that nutjob came from and who in their right mind would listen to her garbage.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 19, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
I was looking at Intrade. (http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474) They have the current price for BO winning set at 6.14 which translates to a 61.4% chance of this (nightmare) happening. This seems to be following the Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/gallup-vs-the-world/) percentage chance of BO winning. (Actually, Silver has the percentage slightly higher at almost 68%. Personally, I think the guy is delusional but that's just me.)

This may take a little longer to crash if these people rely on Silver* for an accurate read.

*Silver was two years old when Reagan beat Carter and perhaps lacks some perspective in this particular area...that area being "incredibly loser fail Democrat presidents."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 19, 2012, 10:30:47 PM
How about bind her with blinders? Umm...except the lib women have pretty much volunteered for that treatment from their masters in Democrat leadership. Witness the protection of serial woman abuser Clinton.

None of this makes any sense, of course.

It never does.  I think Leftists, but especially gals at NAG, are missing the gene that allows them to experience cognitive dissonance.



 I saw this crud on binders last night and have to ask where that nutjob came from and who in their right mind would listen to her garbage.


(http://www.roc4life.com/wp-content/uploads/Did-someone-say-binders-full-of-women.jpeg)



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on October 20, 2012, 07:49:23 AM
Electoral Update 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJNH7C06A8#)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 21, 2012, 12:49:50 AM
Another day, another piece of anecdotal evidence.

Today's installment comes from the PuffHo. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/obama-panic-presidents-supporters_n_1989933.html) They have this article about how BO supporters are coping with the downward trend for BO in the polls. The article sucks...typical PuffHo mediocre "journalism"...but what makes it interesting (as is so often the case in these things) are the comments that follow the article. I have always been under the impression that the PuffHo was chock full of liberals like, say, DailyKos or Democrat Underground. And it is. PuffHo is an "upscale" DailyKos or perhaps and online print version of MSNBC. It's 100% pro liberal bias, through and through. So, I'm confused about the comments on this article because they are mostly running anti-BO and pro-Romney. Who are these people? They aren't new commenters. It's hard to believe that any right-minded conservative would hang out there. So are they "moderates?" Don't know. And really don't care. It's just interesting and funny that there would be so many anti-BO comments and commenters on any PuffHo article. Well, there it is...take it for what it's worth.

Here is one comment (from a person who actually does appear to be new) about what I noticed:

Quote
Romney is trending on huff post? Can't believe all the pro Romney posts on this site. Now I am getting excited. Remember, Obama has binders of dead embassy workers and unemployed Americans. Romney 2012.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on October 21, 2012, 07:30:11 AM

(http://www.roc4life.com/wp-content/uploads/Did-someone-say-binders-full-of-women.jpeg)


LOL!!! That's great.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 21, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
Another day, another piece of anecdotal evidence.

Today's installment comes from the PuffHo. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/obama-panic-presidents-supporters_n_1989933.html) They have this article about how BO supporters are coping with the downward trend for BO in the polls. The article sucks...typical PuffHo mediocre "journalism"...but what makes it interesting (as is so often the case in these things) are the comments that follow the article. I have always been under the impression that the PuffHo was chock full of liberals like, say, DailyKos or Democrat Underground. And it is. PuffHo is an "upscale" DailyKos or perhaps and online print version of MSNBC. It's 100% pro liberal bias, through and through. So, I'm confused about the comments on this article because they are mostly running anti-BO and pro-Romney. Who are these people? They aren't new commenters. It's hard to believe that any right-minded conservative would hang out there. So are they "moderates?" Don't know. And really don't care. It's just interesting and funny that there would be so many anti-BO comments and commenters on any PuffHo article. Well, there it is...take it for what it's worth.

Here is one comment (from a person who actually does appear to be new) about what I noticed:

Quote
Romney is trending on huff post? Can't believe all the pro Romney posts on this site. Now I am getting excited. Remember, Obama has binders of dead embassy workers and unemployed Americans. Romney 2012.

Unlike DU and KOS huffpo seems to have some modest tolerance for moderate commenters. I don't know where the line is because I never signed up to fight with them (seemed like a fruitless exercise) but I, too have noticed the departure from group-think in the comments.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 22, 2012, 10:56:17 AM
How panicky are the far left?

This panicky:

Emergency message from Babs Streisand... (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/10/22/barbra-streisand-asks-for-emergency-contribution-from-obama-supporters-are/?intcmp=features)
Quote
“The Democratic Party urgently needs your help. We’re just weeks from the most important election in a generation and every single thing Democrats like you and I spent a lifetime fighting for is on the line. Republican Super PACs are pounding President Obama and Democratic candidates with millions of dollars of vicious attack ads. And, they could tip the balance of the election for Tea Party extremists,” she wrote in the mass note. “That would be a disaster for America and we can’t let it happen. We must close the funding gap… ?It’s up to you and me to make this happen.? Please rush an emergency contribution right away while there’s still time. President Obama needs a new Democratic Majority to get America moving again.”

EDIT: Just heard Limbaugh take credit for coining "Mittmentum" last week. Well, I'm certain it didn't originate with me but I used it here (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6918.msg79432.html#msg79432) on October 8. Great minds and all...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 22, 2012, 11:28:51 AM
Eff her!  The Dem's get truckloads of money from shady overseas sources and this silly twit shilling for more money is the answer?  I guess we have to pity such a basement level IQ, it would never occur to this twit that people are fed up with her Dear Leader!  But I am out of pity, so to Hell with her and the idiots dumb enough to fork over money on so lame a plea!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 22, 2012, 11:32:41 AM
President Obama needs a new Democratic Majority to get America moving again.”



good luck with that babs

 ::hysterical::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: CatholicCrusader on October 22, 2012, 01:49:24 PM
Barack the Magic Negro - Paul Shanklin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N08ZIsSPKuo#)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 22, 2012, 02:00:39 PM
Not much magical after four years because it never was. That's the problem with mythology.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 22, 2012, 06:39:46 PM
Hey, am I good or what?

Obama just suffered a one day mini crash on Intrade. I predicted this, what? Four or five days ago? (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2929.msg80078.html#msg80078) ...and right on time, too.

Almost a three point slide as I write this.

More to come. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 22, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
Yep, you're good.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 22, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Yeah, lets see how tomorrow goes.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 22, 2012, 10:18:02 PM
"This 75-year-old policy aimed at preventing terrorism has changed dramatically under the Obama administration. On May 4, 2011, even the Washington Post documented that the administration was dismantling the policies for preventing terrorism on U.S. soil:

    In normal times, the officials who uncovered the intelligence that led us to Osama bin Laden would get a medal. In the Obama administration, they have been given subpoenas.

The Washington Post article, titled “Obama owes thanks, and an apology, to CIA interrogators,” further stated:

    On his second day in office Obama shut down the CIA’s high-value interrogation program. His Justice Department then reopened criminal investigations into the conduct of CIA interrogators — inquiries that had been closed years before by career prosecutors who concluded that there were no crimes to prosecute. In a speech at the National Archives, Obama eviscerated the men and women of the CIA, accusing them of “torture” and declaring that their work “did not advance our war and counterterrorism efforts — they undermined them.”

The bankrupt government of Italy was the first to take advantage of the Obama administration’s war against the CIA. On September 2012, in what seemed to be an attempt to distract public attention from its economic troubles, Italy’s high court ruled that 23 CIA operatives and one U.S. Air Force officer should serve jail terms in Italy. The Italian government decided to enforce that decision. Their crime? They allegedly “kidnapped” Egyptian terrorist cleric Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr from a Milan street in 2003.

The CIA is our first line of defense against terrorism and nuclear proliferation, and it should not be used to improve the stature of ambitious political figures. There are many ways a foreign intelligence service can lose trust, but there is nothing more devastating for it than hearing it is distrusted by its own country’s government and political leaders. Who will risk his life to confide secrets to it after that?"

http://pjmedia.com/mihaipacepa/2012/10/22/prevention-the-primary-goal-neglected-by-obamas-foreign-policy/?singlepage=true (http://pjmedia.com/mihaipacepa/2012/10/22/prevention-the-primary-goal-neglected-by-obamas-foreign-policy/?singlepage=true)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 22, 2012, 11:32:48 PM
I can't say that I look at Intrade a lot buy I have never seen more than fifty or sixty shares available to buy in the "BO will win" category. Tonight there are nearly 1000 shares available for purchase. That's a lot of shares that people are trying to dump. That is, if I understand how Intrade works and I admit I am not sure. But it looks that way.

In contrast there are 37 shares available to purchase in the "Romney will win" category.

These things change from moment to moment so who knows what it will be in another five minutes, though.

I'm guessing that BO will be south of $6 a share tomorrow.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 23, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Sell price for Obama below $6, fewer shares of Mitt and more shares of BO available either direction.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/ (http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/)

It will be interesting to see what things look like a week from today.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2012, 09:05:57 AM
Quote
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 46%. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

Other than brief convention bounces, this is the first time either candidate has led by more than three points in months.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
Sell price for Obama below $6, fewer shares of Mitt and more shares of BO available either direction.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/ (http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/)

It will be interesting to see what things look like a week from today.

As I write this the price for BO shares has fallen to $5.76

Romney's share price has risen to $4.29

That is a rather dramatic turnaround since yesterday. Give it another day or two to see if it is a blip or a trend but I'm guessing with two weeks until election day we are beginning to see a trend.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2012, 09:31:01 AM
And, from the sidebar at AoS, here is a link (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/102010211022TrackingPoll.pdf) to a pdf file showing the PPP poll conducted October 20-22 with 1200 likely voters.

Romney 49%
BO 47%
Undecided 4%

It's worth clicking the link to see the cross tabs, though. Pretty good for a lib poll.

I'm guessing that the Gallup poll stays the same or maybe goes back up to a seven point spread.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 23, 2012, 03:04:09 PM
And, from the sidebar at AoS, here is a link (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/102010211022TrackingPoll.pdf) to a pdf file showing the PPP poll conducted October 20-22 with 1200 likely voters.

Romney 49%
BO 47%
Undecided 4%

It's worth clicking the link to see the cross tabs, though. Pretty good for a lib poll.

I'm guessing that the Gallup poll stays the same or maybe goes back up to a seven point spread.


At least 7 point Romney win.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
The Intrade slide continues. Up and down all day but right now it's down. $5.68 per share for Toonces and $4.33 per share for Romney.

When the Rassmussen and Gallup tracking polls get to factor in the post debate dead cat bounce for BO the price will take another significant hit. When Romney gets the breakthrough in polling in Ohio the bottom will fall out. I give it a week. Tops.

EDIT: Oops...$5.50 a new low for the day. Romney at $4.48

EDIT: This situation isn't getting any better...$5.45 now.

EDIT: Did I say $5.45? I meant $5.39

The libs are going to freak when it goes below $5 (and stays there), you know.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2012, 07:43:08 AM
Romney people ran from this story, which I can understand, but it doesn't mean the story doesn't sound credible, I mean we are talking about Capt. Choom here...

A man claiming to be a close pal to President Obama during college made contact with Republican operatives recently, ready to go public with claims that Obama used and sold cocaine in college, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The operatives tried to spread the story through the media and the Romney campaign, a source close to the situation told Radar.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 24, 2012, 09:15:19 AM
Romney people ran from this story, which I can understand, but it doesn't mean the story doesn't sound credible, I mean we are talking about Capt. Choom here...

A man claiming to be a close pal to President Obama during college made contact with Republican operatives recently, ready to go public with claims that Obama used and sold cocaine in college, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The operatives tried to spread the story through the media and the Romney campaign, a source close to the situation told Radar.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject)



this is the kind of stuff that will be the books written about BO
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 24, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
BO is trending a bit higher ($5.65) on Intrade this morning but I still expect him to be at or below $5 by next Monday.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
Romney people ran from this story, which I can understand, but it doesn't mean the story doesn't sound credible, I mean we are talking about Capt. Choom here...

A man claiming to be a close pal to President Obama during college made contact with Republican operatives recently, ready to go public with claims that Obama used and sold cocaine in college, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The operatives tried to spread the story through the media and the Romney campaign, a source close to the situation told Radar.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject)



this is the kind of stuff that will be the books written about BO

Yeah.  Too bad for me though if I hear them say "Dang, I didn't know that about Obama until I read ______!" and I pop them one!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 24, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
Poll trivia:

Rassmussen has Romney leading in New Hampshire 50-48 among 500 likely voters. The poll was conducted the day after the last debate. I think you can stick a fork in this one.

Also from Rassmussen:

Swing state tracking has Romney up 50-45. The state included in this poll are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. Romney has enjoyed a lead in this poll for four of the last five days and has had a modest lead for 13 of the last 16 days. This is a seven day rolling average and the last day included was taken the evening of the debate before the debate had concluded. This is a very good trend. I look for it to improve modestly by the weekend because of BO's un-likeability displayed at the last debate.

National tracking has Romney up 50-46. These are likely voters and the poll is more or less mirroring the swing state poll.

Ohio is tied at 48-48. This is not good news for BO. The undecideds will break for the challenger. They always do.

Gallup has Romney's lead narrowing to three points with a 50-47 poll. This will be seen and heralded as "great" news for BO. This is where I thought this poll should be all along and you will notice that it is now more or less in line with Rassmussen. The truth is that BO is way south of 50% and at this point that is very, very bad news. The few undecideds will break for the challenger. They always do.

Plus everywhere you look (pick a poll) Romney is leading with independents. Usually by double digits. This is very, very bad news for BO.

Oh, and currently there is a zero gender gap. Romney's advantage with men cancels out BO's advantage with women. So...war on women is a whiff. Millions of dollars spent marketing utter nonsense has not paid off. There is a possibility that Romney will close up his gap with women...there is zero chance for BO to do the same with men.

I feel very, very good. My state (CO) is almost certainly going to go back into the red state status. I think that Romney is going to win. I think he is going to win big (defined as 300+ electoral votes). This time four years ago I was dismayed with the election. I knew that McDud was going to lose. This time I feel great. I know that BO is going to lose. Probably the best part of this season (at this time) is that BO knows he is going to lose...look at his last donation plea...and his minions are beginning to sense it...they can smell the flop sweat. I look for abject panic to set in next week in many of the news outlets. This is going to be fun.

Footnote: Has Romney led a negative campaign? Maybe with video ads in swing states to counteract what BO is putting out. But the way the debates went you cannot say that Romney went negative. He pointed out the problems with President Downgrade's policies and his record but that's pretty much it. Romney won the debate war by looking presidential, in control, confident and calm which was in direct contrast to BO who, after the somnolence of his first debate performance, was angry and nasty. Could this then be the first campaign where a negative campaign did not win? What will history say about this campaign?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 24, 2012, 01:08:58 PM
I don't think Romney hasn't been negative except as you said to counter BO. And even then conservatives have complained he hasn't been tough enough.  Romney's admonishing BO that attacking him isn't a plan for the future is spot on. I think people are seeing that.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 24, 2012, 05:41:15 PM
As I watch Romney move forward in his own fashion, I think of how vehemently I and people like me opposed him as the nominee.

Just the fact that he has done this his way and appears to be succeeding gives us an indication that he was right, and I was wrong.

By running this campaign how he has - against the wishes of all of us who "knew better" - he will emerge from ths campaign with a true presidential mandate, should he win, of course.

He will almost certainly remind the American people what a real president with a real mandate can accomplish. And should he govern as he has campaigned, he could be more Reaganesque than we dare hope.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 24, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
Quote
... he could be more Reaganesque than we dare hope.

That's what I'm hoping for, but .....

Time enough for all that after the election.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 24, 2012, 06:58:34 PM

He will do well; however, we will soon be dissatisfied with some of his concessions.

And don't forget, we will have a recession and interest rates are going up up.
Oh, yeah, there's a good chance the printing presses will stop. 
As the nurse says, this'll be a little sting.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 24, 2012, 07:05:28 PM

He will do well; however, we will soon be dissatisfied with some of his concessions.

And don't forget, we will have a recession and interest rates are going up up.
Oh, yeah, there's a good chance the printing presses will stop. 
As the nurse says, this'll be a little sting.


 The sting will end.The way were going it's an endless Cinese water torture.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 25, 2012, 04:08:10 AM
By running this campaign how he has - against the wishes of all of us who "knew better" - he will emerge from ths campaign with a true presidential mandate, should he win, of course.

I was channel surfing and happened to catch the rerun (that's 4 o'dark thirty) of O'Really and heard the Dennis Miller segment where he made a comment about this.  Miller said that he wasn't a Romney guy back during the primaries.  He said he thanks Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry for getting under Romney's skin during those primary debates, thereby innoculating him from the barbed jabs of Owebama and the media now.  He then went on to say that he was like a lot of us in that he wanted Romney to hit Owebama hard on Libya and foreign policy failures, to hammer him.  But in thinking it over, he's come to the conclusion that Romney knows what he's doing because he knows how to be Mitt Romney better than anyone else.  Miller agreed that Romney was much more presidential, while Owebama was something negative I can't remember, worse than an anklebiter, though.  But yeah, a lot of people are (grudgingly?) coming to your conclusion that he's running a solid campaign because he knows how to be Mitt Romney -- and he approves that message.  No one seems too upset about this development.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: BigAlSouth on October 25, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
BO is trending a bit higher ($5.65) on Intrade this morning but I still expect him to be at or below $5 by next Monday.

If the shoe drops on Benghazigate, it's over for BO on Intrade.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 25, 2012, 07:52:16 AM
I was not a Romney backer at all and I'm sure he will infuriate me if he attempts to merge what he did in Mass with " the good parts" of obamacare.

But there's something to be said about a man committed to his convictions. Many of my friends refer to it as "he is comfortable with ( or within) himself". In effect, I've become comfortable supporting him.

I didn't think I knew mitt Romney. The problem wasn't his, it was because I didn't invest the time to know him.I also believe it is the reason why obummer spent resources  convincing americans that " this isn't mitt Romney". Now I know why. Obummer isn't just the polar opposite in regards to policy, but the polar opposite as a person. Obummer knows it and Romney has done a masterful job allowing Obama to prove it. In retrospect, it leaves a sweet, lingering taste, much better that the brief satisfaction of blistering Obama in a debate.

Most politicians have a phony side, easily manipulated by the left because they themselves are never brought under tremendous scrutiny. Romney simply hadn't played the game. He is comfortable with himself.  What he has done is written a new set of rules in how to deal with liberals and the young guns within the party appear to be learning this lesson.

S o mitt Romney has my support.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 25, 2012, 09:26:29 AM
Apparently, though, this is the moderate candidate that all of the experts have been saying we need to run for all these years because it looks like he is going to win. Of course, it could also have something to do with him running against a SCOAMF.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 25, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
Apparently, though, this is the moderate candidate that all of the experts have been saying we need to run for all these years because it looks like he is going to win. Of course, it could also have something to do with him running against a SCOAMF.

 ::thumbsup::

Romney will no doubt face the Reagan/Bush test, Reagan passed muster, Bush tacked away from Reagan and fibbed on taxes, we'll see if Mitt goes Reagan or Bush.

I think the nation has an Obama hangover, or fatigue, or whatever you want to call it.  The momentum is away from Obama and to Romney, the greater the size of the win in electoral votes the greater likelihood of the coattail effect and a stronger mandate to undo the Obama destruction.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 26, 2012, 10:30:35 PM
I admit it. I am new here. As such, I sometimes do not understand the abbreviations. Can someone help me with "SCOAMF?"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on October 26, 2012, 10:37:38 PM
Stuttering Clusterfck of a Miserable Failure.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 26, 2012, 11:03:14 PM
The label did not originate with me, of course. It's been going on for a long time in a lot of places...

(http://lolbamas.com/NYT-scoamfotus/NYTObamaSCOAMF.JPG)

(http://lolbamas.com/blog/SCOAMF/scoamf.png)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W9bcHk4Wt4U/Tljs-7MH0xI/AAAAAAAAJSo/1fzT6GI2mkM/s400/scoamf2.jpg)

(http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/aceofspades-20110824-obamascoamf.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GNQE32CEnmw/TpjUQDT0MYI/AAAAAAAAnr4/2GFGF9QyqTA/s1600/111014-business-week-scoamf.jpg)

(http://lolbamas.com/blog/SCOAMF/weareallsocialists.png)

Hitler Finds Out Obama Is A Stuttering Clusterf**k Of A Miserable Failure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbzSi0LTu0s#ws)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 26, 2012, 11:18:03 PM
Hey, might as well put this out there...get it on the record...

When BO loses the election he WILL be thrown under the bus by everyone on the left. It will happen big and it will happen fast. And it's because the left will never accept that it's the ideology that was rejected by the majority of voters. No. That would never do. So, instead they will sacrifice the messenger. Or in this case, the Lightbringer. He must have been the reason. Which is true, too. But they will sacrifice him so they can assuage their minds of the larger truth.

Wait for it. It's going to happen. And then it will be four years of "Just wait 'till 2016! HRC all the way!"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 27, 2012, 01:39:43 AM
A couple of notes:

1) Nate Silver is either a genius who knows something that the polls aren't indicating or he is a complete fool who is doubling down on his foolishness by saying that, as of today, BO is still a 70% favorite to be reelected.

2) There are a lot of people at Intrade who are totally buying Silver's story because they have traded back up the price on BO to $6.39

I guess that for some people it will always be 2008.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 27, 2012, 02:12:06 AM
I guess that for some people it will always be 2008 1917.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 27, 2012, 02:35:06 AM
Some nostalgia for your weekend. Something to remind you of just how far the once mighty have fallen.

Ah, those were the days...when BO's epic fail was not yet fully realized and the dimwitted were ever so eager to pledge their very souls to their benighted savior. Funny how only three or four of these morons were still gullible enough to show up on stage at the Democrat convention.

 I wonder why Demi and her sidekick Ashton couldn't get any A list celebs to participate in this debacle? I mean seriously, where's Matt Damon? Where's Alec Baldwin? Where's Michael Moore? Susan Sarandon? Liv Tyler? Helen Hunt? (in case you were wondering, I am listing off members of the Film Actors Guild* from "Team America") Janeane Garofalo? Tim Robbins? Samuel L. Jackson? George Clooney? What, were they busy or something?

A Pack of F u c k i n g Idiots Shamelessly Kiss Obama's Ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0#ws)

(An Oprah produced video.)

EDIT: And now the enhanced for clarity transcript of the above video courtesy of this site... (http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Believe-Barack-Obama-Is-Dangerous-For-This-Country/1582829)

Quote
Courtney Cox and her husband, what's-his-name: I pledge.

Demi Moore: I pledge.

Cameron Diaz: Me pledge too!!

Courtney Cox: To end hunger in America.

Mr. Courtney Cox: By ordering smaller endive portions from craft services.

Some guy with baseball cap that I guess I'm supposed to know: I pledge.

Stringy-haired Manson girl with creepy gray eyes: I pledge.

Demi Moore: Too-ooo-oo smile more.

Eva Longoria: To laugh more! (who's laughing now, scrunt?)

Can't quite place her, but think I maybe saw her on a cosmetics commercial once: [intense glare] to LOVE more.

Black Eyed Peas guy: I pledge.

Evita Lopez or Chiquita Gonzalez or something like that: To help children battle with serious illnesses -- by standing here on the far right side of the frame.

Beats the hell outta me: Or here, on the left side of the frame.

Cameron Diaz: Me plemdge.

Nicole Richie: To give up food all together.

Possibly that red-haired chick from Spiderman: To be a great mother.

Some d-bag from that emo band, "Fallout Charlotte" or something, that my daughter was into when she was 11: To be a great father.

Demi Moore: To hire only the best nannies... because all of our children deserve a good nanny.

Lucy Liu: To continue working to support raising awareness as a voice for UNICEF and their international nanny awareness programs.

That witch show chick that used to be on the Tony Danza sitcom: To volunteer my voice coach to give a voice to those who have no voice, so they can have a voice.

Vaguely familiar black chick: I pledge.

Hey wait a minute... is this the redhead who was the Spiderman chick? Now I'm confused: I pledge.

Michael Strahan: To consider myself an American -- not a gap-toothed-American.

Ashton Kutcher: To ALWAYS represent my country with total ******* pride and dignity and ****, broheim!!

Come on, I'm really supposed to know this guy? Really?: to go to RaisingServiceAwarenessForTheVoicelessChildren.com.

Okay, I'm going to take a wild stab and say it's that chubby Korean guy from Mad TV: To find a service project that I'm just as passionate about as the mousse product for my faux-hawk.

Totally-wasted-on-heroin guy from the Red Hot Chili Peppers: I... uhhh.... ihhh... ahhhh... monkey funky like da junky...

Jason Bateman: I plehhhhdge... to fondle this microphone in a whimsically provocative manner.

Mr. Haney from Green Acres: To never give anyone the finger when I'm driving again. I will instead moon them, with my frightening elderly haunches.

'Greg and Darma' chick with scary feral baby: To save water, by never bathing my child.

Underwear model: I pledge.

I think it's that Spunky Winkerbean chick, the one who had a boob reduction: I pledge.

Brain-fried Chili Peppers guy: To caaaare? For? America's elderly?
Pockmarked guy in Urban Outfitters T-shirt: To make sure America's senior citizens have access to free healthcare and iPods and ringtone downloads.

Spunky Winkerbean: So that our next generation's USB memories will not be forgotten.

Eva Longoria: Now I'm pledging here on the other side of the frame!

Absolutely no clue who this is, whatsoever: To bring awareness to mental disease, like I am doing right now.

Weirdly bloated lips chick: To advance research into stem cells, collagen, and Botox.

Huh? Maybe I'm just getting too old but this is another guy who simply isn't ringing a bell: To spread the awareness of autism -- by becoming autistic.

Natalie Portman, I think, possibly after a weekend oxycontin bender: I pledge...

Michael Strahan: ... to give more love to strangers. Lots and lots of strangers.

Maniac English guy in leather coat: To MEET my NEIGHBORS. Whether they LIKE it or NOT.

Mad TV Korean guy again: Find out their names.

Cameron Diaz: Me make smile for thems.

I'm gonna say... she was in one of those 'High School Musicals' or something?: I'm going to ask how I can be of service to them, by ridding their home of subversive materials.

That creepy-eyed redhead from Desperate Housewives: I pledge.

Oh fer crissakes, you're telling me this guy is famous? Seriously?: I pledge.

Whoever came up with this ad sure had a hard-on for redheads: To be a better mentor to my younger sisters.

I think this guy was in an episode of one of those crime autopsy shows: to be a mentor for Big Brothers.

Another redhead? Okay, I'm pretty sure we have a psychopath director on our hands: I pledge.

Mrs. Tom Hanks: To reduce my use of plastic, and raise the awareness of mentors of the voiceless.

That vaguely familiar Hispanic chick from earlier: By starting with the lowering of plastic awareness.

Eva Longoria: To tell my gardening staff to plant 500 trees this year while Tony and I are at our house in Majorca.

Man, that Rene Zellweger has really let herself go: To not use plastic bags at the food store.

Kinda half-Asian looking guy, maybe from one of those doctor shows my mom watches: To consume less. Except movies and TV, obviously.

Cameron Diaz: So we am on this planet. Like, forever. Totally.

Jason Bateman, apparently after a snorting few lines in the trailer: For the environment I pledge to flush only after a 'deuce,' and only then after mentoring and raising awareness of my 'deuce.'

Courtney Cox: I pledge.

Mr. Courtney Cox: You pledge! We pledge! Haha! Let's giggle whimsically!

Po Diddley or Poof Puppy or whatever: I pledge to turn off the damn lights in both my Gulfstreams. I'ma turn the lights off the off, so you turna lights off, *****.

Okay, now I'm officially creeped out, a turkey-neck grandma redhead: I pledge.

Another emo music d-bag in a jaunty thrift shop straw chapeau: I pledge to sell my obnoxious car and buy a hybrid. I also pledge to make sure the person who buys my old obnoxious car promises to never ever drive it.

George Lopez: To drive slower, lower, and only hit the hydraulic switches when absolutely necessary.

Rough-looking Rene Zellweger again: I pledge to volunteer my time...

Absolutely no idea guy again: ...to emphasize the importance raising the awareness of finding mentors to promote voices to speak out for arts education mentoring in our schools.

Bald head black dude: To promote a culture of awareness of mentoring for the education of awareness of reduction of ignorance.

Kinda hot, I'm thinking Penthouse July '89: I pledge.

Okay, now I think I remember - this is that blonde chick from My Name is Chuck, except she seems pissed off about something: to help children understand that even though they come from a uterus, it doesn't mean they can't move on to bigger things. Like working to mentor awareness of the voices.

The raspy voice Hindu terrorist lady from 24: I plidge.

Stumped again. But she's obviously had some work done: To work to make good the 200 year old promise to end slavery.

Ashton Kutcher: to ban slaveholders from ALL of my pool parties. Forever.

Demi Moore: To free one million people from slavery over the next five years, no matter how many strongly worded letters it will take my personal assistant to write.

High School Musical chick again: to fight?

Oh come on, this is a practical joke, right? It's an episode of Punk'd, and Kutcher picked a bunch of random hipster people out of a Santa Monica coffee house to play a part in some sort of elaborate prank to see how many people he could fool into thinking they were actually celebrities: To become aware.

Cameron Diaz: To ebgucate.

Another prank "celebrity" (haha, nice try Kutcher): to not give up.

baseball hat guy: to defend...

Needs to seriously work on her hair part: ...the issues I care about.

Red Hot Chili Peppers guy, after shotgunning a couple more bowls of crack since his last pledge: Ihhh pllplegdge to beema sermice to Obrack Bobomba [French kisses own armpits].

First redhead: I pledge.

Black Eyed Peas guy: To change the way I live. No, wait a minute. Not me, you.

The Batman guy who was a good guy but became half-melted-face villain at the end to set up another sequel: To be a better person, no matter how impossibly ambitious that goal might be.

Creepy-eyed Squeaky Fromm lookalike again: To never stop learning and growing, even if I become a 60 foot tall brain scientist. Every day.

Nicole Richie: Every day. Except the growing big part.

Sheryl Crowe's stunt double: I pledge to commit to my own change before I ask others to change. Unless these self-changings I am pledging to commit include making other people change first. In that case I will obviously have to make these other people change also, as part of a package-type change deal.

Gesticulating baseball hat guy: To be the change.

Demi Moore: To be the change.

Marisa Tomei: To integrate into my heart what I already know in my head -- Which is that, we are all inside my cardiovascular nervous system together.

Piff Pappy: Imagine what could happen next. Imagine or DIE.

Batman melted face guy: What's your pledge?

Collagen lips: What's your pledge?

Ashton Kutcher: Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagottapledge, Iknowyagotta...

I bet this guy himself doesn't knows who he is: Gotta pledge?

Another redhead who is likely filing a restraining order against the director as we speak: What's your pledge?

Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher: I PLEDGE...

Demi Moore: ...to be a servant to our president...

Ashton Kutcher: ...and provide him with whatever portion of my precious bodily fluids he may need to save all mankind...

[Pan back to an infinite Brady Bunch / Hollywood Squares splitscreen]

All celebrities chant together:

TOGETHER WE CAN
TOGETHER WE CAN OBEY
DIVIDED WE ARE INSIGNIFICANT
BUT TOGETHER WE CAN BE A MOLECULE
ON OUR PRESIDENT'S CHEEKBONE
FADING AND MELTING AND SHRINKING
INTO THE ONE UNIVERSAL GLORY OF HIM
OBEY
OBEY
OBEY

[Fadeout; cue FBI piracy warning]

*
Film Actors Guild releases "I Pledge" video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbuVa6GEJUg#)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 27, 2012, 09:01:44 AM
I tried to watch the entire video...I couldn't. The only thing this asshats can't pledge is to give up some of thier brain matter...because they have none.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 27, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
And that's why I posted the enhanced transcript.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 27, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
A couple of notes:

1) Nate Silver is either a genius who knows something that the polls aren't indicating or he is a complete fool who is doubling down on his foolishness by saying that, as of today, BO is still a 70% favorite to be reelected.

2) There are a lot of people at Intrade who are totally buying Silver's story because they have traded back up the price on BO to $6.39

I guess that for some people it will always be 2008.

He can only win by fraud so apparent that the nation regurgitates the result.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 27, 2012, 11:59:03 AM
And that's why I posted the enhanced transcript.

I don't know how you came across that transcript but it was hilarious  ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
And morons look up to these losers?

Really?

It's like having a glass toilet bowl...who in thier right mind wants to see that stuff on purpose?!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
More ObamaBots commiting crimes -

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/10/27/vandal-keys-obama-into-2-cars-in-alta-loma/ (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/10/27/vandal-keys-obama-into-2-cars-in-alta-loma/)

I'm guessing this will not go over well and not help Obama in a positive way come election day.

But this has me more concerned -

http://news.yahoo.com/absentee-ballots-may-destroyed-crash-210240583--election.html (http://news.yahoo.com/absentee-ballots-may-destroyed-crash-210240583--election.html)

There better not be ONE disenfranchised military vote under ANY circumstances!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 27, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
Was watching Castaway on FXM tonight and during the commercial breaks they were promoting the animated movie, "Monsters vs. Aliens." I never noticed how much the alien bad guy looks like BO but someone else did...

(http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/3/19/128819631009973428.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 27, 2012, 10:17:33 PM
BTW...last night on FNC Michael Barone predicted that Romney was going to win. As John McClane said in Die Hard, "Welcome to the party, pal."---
,
NRO has this article (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331828/two-polls-have-chicago-terrified-josh-jordan) about some interesting poll data. It is worth reading.


Quote
But of all the polls that have been released, there are two polls that will have Team Obama waking up in a cold sweat knowing that if these polls are even somewhat accurate they might be on the other end of a dramatic victory on Election Day: The party-affiliation polls from Gallup and Rasmussen.

And if you want to know why Democrat enthusiasm is down this year, if you want to know why Romney is leading with independents by double digits...I can wholeheartedly recommend watching the documentary, "The Hope and the Change." It's devastating. The film focuses on ObamaVoters (both Democrats and independents) who are disillusioned, disappointed and disgusted with the bill of goods that they bought in BO. I was able to catch it on one of the satellite channels. All I can say is, "Wow."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 27, 2012, 11:26:23 PM

Today, Obama suggested to people on the Atlantic coast to go vote for him now because the storm might wash away their opportunity.

Today, Romney, because of the storm, suggested folks should keep the people on the Atlantic coast in their prayers.

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 28, 2012, 12:06:35 AM

Today, Obama suggested to people on the Atlantic coast to go vote for him now because the storm might wash away their opportunity.

Today, Romney, because of the storm, suggested folks should keep the people on the Atlantic coast in their prayers.



that pretty much sums up the two men
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: RickZ on October 28, 2012, 01:32:03 AM
Today, Romney, because of the storm, suggested folks should keep the people on the Atlantic coast in their prayers.

Like the metrosexual grifter he is, with Owebama, it's all about the O!

/Sorry, ladies.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 28, 2012, 09:42:14 AM
Like the metrosexual grifter he is, with Owebama, it's all about the O!

Now more than ever!

Things must be really going great in the BO campaign when you have to resort to stupid things like this! (http://washingtonexaminer.com/holy-pop-obamas-campaign-snazzes-up-its-slogan/article/feed/2043017?custom_click=rss#.UI1CzLQhON1) I have to wonder which of his inner circle thought up this brilliant and innovative idea?! I'll bet that the Romney team wishes that they had thought of it first! Someone's getting a bonus with their check this week for sure!

Quote
President Barack Obama's campaign slogan is getting a boost!

Obama's campaign added an exclamation point to placards and banners bearing the campaign's motto. Instead of a stoic period at the end of the single-word slogan, the signs now read "Forward!"


Now the can say, "Big bird!"

Or, "Binders!"

Maybe soon they will adopt the lyrics from the Team America theme song, "America, f**k yeah!"
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 28, 2012, 10:08:29 AM
Maybe he should just cut the BS and go with this one



(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff269/halo707/Forums/forward_communism-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: robins111 on October 28, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
Personally, as an outsider, I see that at present, the Obama campaign is floundering, however the MSM is doing everything possible to makes sure Bammy qualifies for one of those Adam Corrola's, participation awards.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 28, 2012, 10:52:49 AM
BTW...last night on FNC Michael Barone predicted that Romney was going to win. As John McClane said in Die Hard, "Welcome to the party, pal."---
,
NRO has this article (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331828/two-polls-have-chicago-terrified-josh-jordan) about some interesting poll data. It is worth reading.


Quote
But of all the polls that have been released, there are two polls that will have Team Obama waking up in a cold sweat knowing that if these polls are even somewhat accurate they might be on the other end of a dramatic victory on Election Day: The party-affiliation polls from Gallup and Rasmussen.

And if you want to know why Democrat enthusiasm is down this year, if you want to know why Romney is leading with independents by double digits...I can wholeheartedly recommend watching the documentary, "The Hope and the Change." It's devastating. The film focuses on ObamaVoters (both Democrats and independents) who are disillusioned, disappointed and disgusted with the bill of goods that they bought in BO. I was able to catch it on one of the satellite channels. All I can say is, "Wow."

From Trap's link:

Quote
In 2008 Gallup found the party breakdown of the electorate to be 39 percent Democrats, 29 percent Republicans, and 31 percent independents. That ten-point advantage grew to twelve points when independents were asked which party they typically leaned to, with 54 percent identifying as Democrats and 42 percent Republicans.

Thank you john mccain. And I'll throw some blame at GW too, because he wouldn't stand up and defend the cause. BTW, although I wasn't a participant in any of those polls, if asked I would refer to myself as an independent as well. (thus proving that indies can be extremist 'wingers;-)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 28, 2012, 11:10:18 AM
Oh, and on the comments at the end of the piece...

they match the anecdotes that I've been reading from every corner of the country and definitely in my own communities here in Washington. Little or no Øbozo signs. If I see anything it is a bumper sticker - and those I'm not sure I could tell if they aren't from 2008.

I helped with signs for a state candidate and have monitored them closely. All are intact so far. We took special precautions in placement - all on private land adjacent to the ROW and all with owner permission. I did see where our opponent came in and placed a sign next to ours - without permission of course - and the owner took it down (we're talking free standing double-sided 4' x 8' on masts 10 to 14' tall).

For months now I have never missed an opportunity to blame anything including the weather on Øbozo. I do it so casually that most have a delayed reaction. Originally the reaction was irritation with me. More and more often nowadays the reaction is a spontaneous conversation of agreement and venting. I love them because they invariably take place in public settings with a number of eavesdroppers. Rarely if ever do I get Øbozo supporters arguing with me - and they're so pathetic that they are dispatched with one swat.

I am cautiously optimistic on how this is trending.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2012, 01:51:30 PM
Signs good and bad:

People have no fracking clue who Obama is, what he has done or what he wants to do -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-supporters-slam-romney-policies-then-find-out-theyre-actually-obamas/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-supporters-slam-romney-policies-then-find-out-theyre-actually-obamas/)

Moonbats!   ::facepalm::   ::gaah::   ::laserkill::

Venereal Girl gets booed again -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/madonna-booed-for-telling-new-orleans-concertgoers-to-vote-for-obama/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/madonna-booed-for-telling-new-orleans-concertgoers-to-vote-for-obama/)

Seriously, time for old 80's pop-music losers to STFU and just go away.

And this sick shyt right out of the Hitler Youth handbook is beyond creepy and disturbing -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pro-obama-ad-has-children-singing-about-an-america-where-sick-people-just-die-oil-fills-the-sea/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pro-obama-ad-has-children-singing-about-an-america-where-sick-people-just-die-oil-fills-the-sea/)

The people who did this should all be incarcerated for child abuse!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 28, 2012, 07:56:25 PM
  We all went and voted today and it took an hour in line to get it done. From what I saw most people were voting for out side.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 02:26:17 AM
Hey, I beat Nick Gillespie of Reason to this one by several hours...

"I Pledge to Serve Barack Obama" (Urgent 2012 Election Update) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb51PtIT5tM#ws)

His takedown is original, though.

In my case I was looking for a comprehensive list of the B-list losers and stumbled upon the "enhanced" transcript.

And I didn't actually go looking for that stupid video...I chanced upon it when viewing something else and thought, "Hey..."
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Sectionhand on October 29, 2012, 04:58:23 AM

Today, Obama suggested to people on the Atlantic coast to go vote for him now because the storm might wash away their opportunity.


Famous Stymie Quote : " There'll be a hurricane in Manhattan before Romney ever beats me ! "
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 07:36:19 AM

Today, Obama suggested to people on the Atlantic coast to go vote for him now because the storm might wash away their opportunity.


Famous Stymie Quote : " There'll be a hurricane in Manhattan before Romney ever beats me ! "

Heh!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 29, 2012, 08:22:54 AM
Like the metrosexual grifter he is, with Owebama, it's all about the O!

Now more than ever!

Things must be really going great in the BO campaign when you have to resort to stupid things like this! (http://washingtonexaminer.com/holy-pop-obamas-campaign-snazzes-up-its-slogan/article/feed/2043017?custom_click=rss#.UI1CzLQhON1) I have to wonder which of his inner circle thought up this brilliant and innovative idea?! I'll bet that the Romney team wishes that they had thought of it first! Someone's getting a bonus with their check this week for sure!

Quote
President Barack Obama's campaign slogan is getting a boost!

Obama's campaign added an exclamation point to placards and banners bearing the campaign's motto. Instead of a stoic period at the end of the single-word slogan, the signs now read "Forward!"


Now the can say, "Big bird!"

Or, "Binders!"

Maybe soon they will adopt the lyrics from the Team America theme song, "America, f**k yeah!"


I can't believe the obummer administration restrained themselves. I mean two (!!) would have been twice as effective!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 29, 2012, 08:37:41 AM
Ah, the sweet smell of desperation (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/27/video-and-now-an-important-message-from-the-children-about-reelecting-barack-obama/)

Using children to sing about oceans of oil and lots of Chinese stuff, and no mention of the debt..



Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 08:58:53 AM
The children in that video are creepy. The image that immediately jumped to my mind was of the children in the 1960 film, "Village of the Damned."

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Kids_votd1957.jpg)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 11:29:58 AM
Made me think of Hitler Youth!

 ::speechless::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 29, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Ah, the sweet smell of desperation (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/27/video-and-now-an-important-message-from-the-children-about-reelecting-barack-obama/)

Using children to sing about oceans of oil and lots of Chinese stuff, and no mention of the debt..





I liked this:

Quote
Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Obama: all used the children like this. I’ve seen it first hand in Vietnam. You may ask, “Where are the parents?”, they are either just as bad or too afraid to speak up. They just want to live and hope all this will go away. Seventy years ago, there was a free, God fearing and moral country that would make it go away, but America is no longer that country for reasons all too obvious. Barring a booming voice from the heavens, we will never again be that country. So hunker down in your redoubts and gird your loins for the long fight.

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” ~ Voltaire

SpiderMike on October 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 11:46:52 AM
"they are either just as bad or too afraid to speak up"

 ::outrage::   ::cussing::   ::angry::   ::cussing::   ::gaah::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 29, 2012, 01:11:50 PM

Several questions came up at press conference whether the prez is going to change/extend the election dates for the
east coast.

We can't allow a hurricane to steal an election can we?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: hemm on October 29, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
The children in that video are creepy. The image that immediately jumped to my mind was of the children in the 1960 film, "Village of the Damned."

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Kids_votd1957.jpg)



Only thing creepier is being drunk on German bier, new to Germany, seeing this in German, and understanding......every. single. word.

Ja, das bier war sehr gut.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 29, 2012, 02:11:59 PM

Several questions came up at press conference whether the prez is going to change/extend the election dates for the
east coast.

We can't allow a hurricane to steal an election can we?

That has been my fear.  That the media will gin up a crisis over how the northeast states, the bluest of blue, need more time to vote and if you disagree you are callous to victims of a hurricane. In reality it would have nothing to do with storm victims and everything to do with giving the Democrat fraud machine more time and a more accurate target to aim for in order to successfully steal the election.

I put absolutely nothing past these people.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
The libiots will be risking riots and killing if elections are extended beyond established constitutional bounds!   ::outrage::   ::angry::   ::cussing::   ::gaah::

 ::rockets::   ::laserkill::   machinegun   ::overkill::   ::guillotine::
Title: When you've lost Oliver Stone...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 29, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
Of course, the reason Obama has lost Ollie's love is because he's governed as a war-mongering anti-progressive. But whatever. Anything that will cause Democrats to turn against this piece of scat, I'll gladly take it.

Oliver Stone's new book rips President Obama (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82993.html?hp=r6)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
Yeah, could care less about that pompous revisionist bungwad, but seeing one libiot attack another is as close to arming imbeciles and watching them hurt themselves and each other as we can get...for now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
That has been my fear.  That the media will gin up a crisis over how the northeast states, the bluest of blue, need more time to vote and if you disagree you are callous to victims of a hurricane. In reality it would have nothing to do with storm victims and everything to do with giving the Democrat fraud machine more time and a more accurate target to aim for in order to successfully steal the election.

I put absolutely nothing past these people.

I am having a hard time seeing a downside for the Republicans in your scenario.

These are, after all, blue states. They will, with the possible exception of NH, go for BO. Or not. But what does it matter?

Let's say that for some reason these states can't vote by election day. And let's also say that Romney wins 270+ electoral votes on Nov. 6th. What possible difference does it make if NY, RI, CT, VT, ME, etc. haven't been able to hold a successful vote tally? Romney wins 270+ without them.

I mean seriously, what are the Democrats going to say? That if only these states had gotten to vote then BO's margin of defeat wouldn't be as much? Or are we supposed to believe that somehow if only these states had gotten to vote and had, as expected, voted for BO then they might have somehow (mysteriously) had some kind of an influencing effect on the states that went for Romney?

And if Romney somehow doesn't get to 270, the only state in the region that might go for him (NH) is only capable of giving him 4 votes. If that number would have pushed him over the top then I can see where MAYBE there is some cause for concern. Otherwise, no.

Here is the thing...We aren't going to get Maryland. We aren't going to get Massachusetts. Or New York. In fact, I'll even concede them right now. They count for BO...I'll give them to him. If this election breaks for Romney the way that I think it will then none of these liberal wonderlands will matter. Not at all.

Okay, maybe NJ might be a surprise Romney pick up because, hey, Chris Christie. But I doubt it.

I personally hope that the election takes place as scheduled in the entire country. And if there is no power in NY or some other states well, hey, we somehow managed to vote without electricity for over a hundred years and I think that we could probably figure that one out. And if, through Democrat chicanery the dead vote, etc. then who cares? They were going to go for BO anyway.

Now if we are talking House races then maybe there is a legitimate concern there. Maybe the CT senate race or the MA senate race is a concern, too. But not the presidential race. I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 09:57:11 PM
I'm tempted to start a new thread for this but screw it.

We are now down to one week before election eve.

It's time to commit to some predictions.

I'm not going to say which predictions you should make. As far as I'm concerned, this is an opportunity for anyone and everyone to go on record for fun. Which, given the direction of the campaign momentum, should be fun...for us anyway.

So...here are some predictions from me:

I think that Romney is going to win with a 52-48 popular vote margin.

I think that Romney is going to win something more than 300 electoral votes but probably not more than 325. I know that I should go to the map (and maybe I will later) and put down a precise number but I'm too lazy to do that right now.

I think that we will probably narrowly miss regaining control of the Senate. I think that we will have 49 senators. I don't see any Democrats flipping after the election, either. The moderates are no more.

I see us picking up perhaps 6 or 8 more representatives.

I see us picking up another 3 or 4 governorships.

I see BO getting a lower percentage of the black vote than he did in 2008. I think that somewhere on the web (maybe here but I can't find it) I previously predicted that BO will get 86% of the black vote and I think that I will stay with that.

I am not sure what BO's share of the Latino vote was in 2008 but I will say that he will get 6 points less of them.

I think that Romney will carry the independent vote by 12 points.

I think that the female vote will be a draw. Romney should carry the male vote by something like ten or twelve points.

That's it for now. I can't think of anything else to take a shot at but some of you will probably come up with a few more...by all means, predict away.

I hope that I am mostly right.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 29, 2012, 10:03:50 PM

He will win as big as Reagan or bigger.

and

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6311.msg70855.html#msg70855 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6311.msg70855.html#msg70855)
Black vote: 88%
Hispanic vote: 69%
White vote: 32%
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
Getting back to the hurricane thoughts...

Just turned on FNC and one thing that you can probably say with certainty about this storm is that it has changed the subject for at least the next 48 hours.

That is a two edged sword. On the one side you have BO not getting hammered over Libya for a couple of days. But looking at the flip side it also means that BO will not be able to tar Romney with any more of his baseless attacks.

And it will probably stop or severely limit the MFM's pro BO coverage for at least two days but probably more like three or four. So that's kind of good.

If there are rain or power issues in OH that might be a problem for the election. Ditto for any of the right leaning states in the midwest. But I still don't see the Democrats being able to do much outside of the states that they don't own outright.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
Thanks for the link, Charles. There was my black vote prediction...

This is as good a topic as any for a pool.

I say he gets 91% of the black vote.

Tie breaker is percentage of the mexican vote. I say he gets 78% of it.

So, I am currently thinking it will be even worse for BO now than I did back then. I wonder which "me" will be right?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 29, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
I believe BO wins 17 states. Romney gets 55 percent of the vote. Obummer gets 85 percent of what blacks vote. Hispanics will be 35 percent Romney.romney 2 percent better with women.Romney 58 percent of male vote. All the key states fall to Romney.

There are riots in NYC, Detroit, Chicago, San Fran, Miami, LA, and washington dc.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 29, 2012, 11:05:58 PM
I am having a hard time seeing a downside for the Republicans in your scenario.

These are, after all, blue states. They will, with the possible exception of NH, go for BO. Or not. But what does it matter?

Let's say that for some reason these states can't vote by election day. And let's also say that Romney wins 270+ electoral votes on Nov. 6th. What possible difference does it make if NY, RI, CT, VT, ME, etc. haven't been able to hold a successful vote tally? Romney wins 270+ without them.

You're right about all those states.  The one that concerned me is PA.  There are some things suggesting it could be in play this year.  That is probably wishful thinking, since PA has been a flirt for the GOP before.  Given the nature of this regime, I just always assume diabolical designs in any given situation.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 29, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Well, as long as the polls are open you can count on one thing: Republicans will go to them regardless of conditions. It's a historical/statistical fact. Democrats will stay home during inclement weather or pretty much any condition south of a warm, sunny day.

So...if the polls are open and conditions are less than optimal in any way it's good for us.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
**GALLUP SHOCK** Romney Up 52-45% Among Early Voters (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/29/Gallup-Shock-Romney-Up-7-with-early-voters)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 30, 2012, 12:13:24 AM
Yeah, I saw that earlier this evening.

And yet, statistics wunderkind and hero of the left Nate Silver is still giving BO a 75% chance to win the election. Trust "The Model" he says. I don't know which thought makes me happier, that BO will be defeated or that Silver will fall on his ass but good.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 12:18:05 AM
What I look forward to (assuming Romney does indeed pull it off) is the desperate chucking of Obama and company under the bus in an effort to protect liberalism itself. For the Left it can never be the ideology itself that is a miserable failure. Obama will in just a few years have gone from 2nd Coming of the Messiah to thoroughly axle-wrapped under the Greyhound.

I just hope schadenfreude isn't fattening, because there is going to be a veritable cornucopia of it coming soon.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 30, 2012, 12:26:56 AM
BTW...one more hurricane thought.

The media has pretty much adopted the name "Superstorm Sandy" instead of Hurricane Sandy or as is the case now, Tropical Storm Sandy. The NWS has some fancy name for it at this point now that it no longer is packing 75 mph sustained winds...post tropical cyclone...whoopdeedoo. But anyway...the North Eastern snobs can't have a hurricane or a tropical storm, no. They have to have a SUPERSTORM! I added the exclamation point in honor of the new and improved BO campaign theme of FORWARD!

What incredible snobs. They get what amounts to a garden variety Cat 1 hurricane with a bonus amount of rain and it's a SUPERSTORM! You would think that they were being clobbered with a thirty or forty foot storm surge accompanied by tornados but no...they have an 11 to 13 foot storm surge and it's the storm of the millennia or something.

These people are going to piss and moan about having to go without power for a few days like it's the end of the world or something. When the gulf coast gets the crap pounded out of it by 150+mph sustained winds the people down there just deal with it. Well, except for New Orleans which goes into full looting and dependency mode. Everywhere else they just pick up the pieces and move on without much bitching at all.

Not that I don't sympathize with those who's homes have flooded or otherwise totally ruined...I do. BUT, this nonsense about this being a SUPERSTORM! is just overwrought hype driven by a narcissistic/self absorbed NE media. It's all about them. The rest of the country (where they have real storms) is nothing to them. Fly over country. So they have to have a SUPERSTORM! because, hey, New York...ordinary rules just don't apply to the elites.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 30, 2012, 12:31:49 AM
What I look forward to (assuming Romney does indeed pull it off) is the desperate chucking of Obama and company under the bus in an effort to protect liberalism itself. For the Left it can never be the ideology itself that is a miserable failure. Obama will in just a few years have gone from 2nd Coming of the Messiah to thoroughly axle-wrapped under the Greyhound.

I just hope schadenfreude isn't fattening, because there is going to be a veritable cornucopia of it coming soon.

Yeah, I said the same thing three days ago (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,2929.msg81032.html#msg81032) but it bears repeating because it most definitely will happen.

And the thought isn't original to you or me. Limbaugh has said this many times before on this and other occasions because it is one of his undeniable truths or something.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 30, 2012, 12:56:30 AM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 07:33:18 AM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.

Aye!  It all comes down to the senate.  A mandate won't be so strong without it.  And the bigger the better, remember what happened last time Pubbies had the senate?  Weak-sisters, Gang of 8...

 ::facepalm::   ::gaah::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 07:34:30 AM
Barry is getting contributions from his old pal, must be hard to get that transaction done from the bottom of the Arabian Sea...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: robins111 on October 30, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
Karma, is that a liberal, in the most liberal/progressive city in Canada, (Toronto) gets killed by a falling 'Staples' sign in the hurricane..    ::stirpot::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 30, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
Barry is getting contributions from his old pal, must be hard to get that transaction done from the bottom of the Arabian Sea...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/)


Lawlessness on steroids. Since the guy who proclaimed us a "nation of laws" has no use for law, my concern is Romney should win but won't because obummer will rig the election.

With libs, the result always justifies the means.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
Barry is getting contributions from his old pal, must be hard to get that transaction done from the bottom of the Arabian Sea...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/)


Lawlessness on steroids. Since the guy who proclaimed us a "nation of laws" has no use for law, my concern is Romney should win but won't because obummer will rig the election.

With libs, the result always justifies the means.

Yeah, I figured this go-around would shatter all previous records of libiot lawlessness across the board, sad to say that call was way too easy to make.  Mitt might overwhelm the fraud factor, its the down-ticket races getting gamed I worry about (like Franken over Coleman etc)!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.

This is what really bothered me about Akin staying in the MO race after unloading a full mag directly into his foot.  I really hate that we might do everything right except for getting that all important 51st seat in the Senate.

Obamacare is that significant.  It is a giant Trojan horse, that will disgorge left wing statism for generations if it is allowed to stand.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 11:35:03 AM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.

This is what really bothered me about Akin staying in the MO race after unloading a full mag directly into his foot.  I really hate that we might do everything right except for getting that all important 51st seat in the Senate.

Obamacare is that significant.  It is a giant Trojan horse, that will disgorge left wing statism for generations if it is allowed to stand.

On the positive side, if it stands it can only accelerate our collapse.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 30, 2012, 11:50:22 AM

Previously, these local faux pas would not have received media coverage.  Today, with a camera and mic and YouTube and MSM researching every recorded Kb the pressure of a more homogenized presentation is on every candidate. 

You're not running for the house or senate of your state or region, say one thing that doesn't fit the meme and you are a header on the NYTs and fodder for the grinder.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 30, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.

This is what really bothered me about Akin staying in the MO race after unloading a full mag directly into his foot.  I really hate that we might do everything right except for getting that all important 51st seat in the Senate.

Obamacare is that significant.  It is a giant Trojan horse, that will disgorge left wing statism for generations if it is allowed to stand.

On the positive side, if it stands it can only accelerate our collapse.
\

  I thought Akin was a dead heat as of a couple of days ago?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
If we don't take the senate, then ObamaCare is forever - an insurance policy for the totalitarian aspirations of the Left.

We need the senate. Getting rid of the Marxist just will not do.

So I must predict 50 seats, or despair.

This is what really bothered me about Akin staying in the MO race after unloading a full mag directly into his foot.  I really hate that we might do everything right except for getting that all important 51st seat in the Senate.

Obamacare is that significant.  It is a giant Trojan horse, that will disgorge left wing statism for generations if it is allowed to stand.

On the positive side, if it stands it can only accelerate our collapse.
\

  I thought Akin was a dead heat as of a couple of days ago?

The jackwagons at RCP has it close (2%) for the dumber of the two -

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/mo/missouri_senate_akin_vs_mccaskill-2079.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/mo/missouri_senate_akin_vs_mccaskill-2079.html)

Rasmussen has it worse off -

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_senate_elections/missouri/election_2012_missouri_senate (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_senate_elections/missouri/election_2012_missouri_senate)

If the libiots retain control of the senate by one vote I'm gonna riot!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 30, 2012, 03:10:41 PM
That will be the GOP Establishment's fault, and Karl Rove's, not Akin's fault. They had no right to undermine him. Had they not, the race would be back to normal by now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 30, 2012, 03:30:53 PM

Yes, they are getting real good at that,
when will the PTBs recognize it?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 30, 2012, 04:08:07 PM
We really only need 50. Ryan breaks all ties.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
I definitely agree that the GOP establishment should not have piled on like they did. But they did. Now an easy pick up is at best a toss up. I might be more sympathetic to his drawing a line in the sand with the party apparatchiks if it were any other election year.  We will see what happens next Tuesday I guess.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on October 30, 2012, 07:54:27 PM
   It may be gas(from a bad lunch) but I'm feeling in a good place right about now.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on October 30, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
I guess I don't understand Intrade. I thought that I did but I don't. I honestly do not see why the numbers aren't closer to 50/50 right now.

All that I can guess is that the people who traffic in Intrade (at least as regards the presidential election) are heavily invested in the Nate Silver universe where Obama is going to win with a 75% probability.

I don't see it and I'm not going into the reasons why again.

So...I am either very wrong about the election and the Intrade people and Nate Silver are right or it's the other way around.

Either way I do not understand the thinking behind Intrade or Nate Silver. And this does not trouble me.

But here is a pathetic left wing hack (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/30/the-nate-silver-backlash/) (Ezra Klein) to explain all about why Nate Silver really is a genius:

Quote
My guess is Silver and his successors will win this one, if only because, for all the very real shortcomings of models, election forecasters have better incentives than homepage editors. For instance, note that all these attacks on Silver take, as their starting point, Silver’s continuously updated prediction for the presidential election, which includes point estimates for the popular vote and electoral college, and his predictions for the Senate races. Those predictions let readers check Silver’s track record and they force Silver, if he wants to keep his readers’ trust, to make his model as accurate as he can. That’s a good incentive structure — certainly a better one than much of the rest of the media has — and my guess is his results, over time, will prove it.

And here is the Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/nate-silver-romney-clearly-could-still-win-147618.html) with their "wisdom" on the issue:

Quote
Nate Silver could be a one-term celebrity.

The New York Times's resident political predictor says President Barack Obama currently has a 74.6 percent chance of winning reelection. It's a prediction that liberals, whose heart rates continue to fluctuate with the release of every new poll, want to take solace in but somehow can't. Sure, this is the guy who correctly predicted the outcome of the 2008 election in 49 of 50 states, but this year's polls suggest a nailbiter.

"Romney, clearly, could still win," Silver told POLITICO today.

Prediction is the name of Silver's game, the basis for his celebrity. So should Mitt Romney win on Nov. 6, it's difficult to see how people can continue to put faith in the predictions of someone who has never given that candidate anything higher than a 41 percent chance of winning (way back on June 2) and — one week from the election — gives him a one-in-four chance, even as the polls have him almost neck-and-neck with the incumbent.

One of the things that crosses my mind is that the polls are wrong. They don't have to be off by much in order to skew the results of someone who counts on them for a prediction.

To me, it seems that it is entirely reasonable that left leaning polling organizations (and I have every reason to believe that most do lean left) would be more likely to give more accurate results in a year where "their guy" is expected to win. This would result in a prediction which is based on those polls to have a more accurate result. It seems equally reasonable that these same left leaning polling organizations would be less likely to give accurate results when "their guy" is not doing quite as well as he did last time. It seems reasonable to me that they might put their thumb on the scale if even just a little bit. This would result in a prediction with a less accurate result. Add to that the fact that the prediction "expert" is also biased toward one result and you have a compounding factor toward the results.

In other words, garbage in-garbage out.

The common sense point of view seems at odds with this "expert" prediction.

- We have an incumbent with almost zero accomplishments.
- We have arguably the worst economy of our lives which has not improved (not significantly, not even marginally) in four years.
- We have wars that have been mismanaged (more dead in Afghanistan under BO than under GWB).
- We have a new war situation in Libya.
- We have a foreign policy scandal in Benghazi that seems to lead directly to the WH.
- Gas prices are historically high.
- Food prices are very high.
- Unemployment is very high.
- Food stamp usage is very high.
- Foreclosure rates are extremely high.
- Consumer confidence is very low.
- The net worth of most Americans is very low.
- The national debt is at an all time high, nearly double what it was four years ago.
- We have not had a budget in years.

I could go on and on and you could, too. I don't like to quote Democrats and I especially don't like to quote Algore but in 1992 he said, "Everything that should be up is down and everything that should be down is up." Anyone can see that this is what we have been experiencing for the last four years and anyone can see that there is no reason to believe that a continuation of BO's administration will not change the situation for the better.

So, polls aside...the common sense take on the election is that BO is ripe to be thrown out.

Which is it? Which line of thinking is going to win out? Polls and "expert" prediction gurus or common sense?

I'm betting on common sense. I'm betting that a majority of the voting public will not pull a lever or fill in a circle for another four years of this misery.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on October 31, 2012, 07:15:25 AM
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121030/DA2854680.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121030/DA2854680.html)

Even AssocProgs is having a hard time avoiding news indicating Obama is in trouble, the firewall is, if not down, is fracturing and about to crumble.

Only an extra-legal act can keep Obama in office now, politically his goose is cooked.

ETA - Speaking of cooked, the fat-lib bastard Moore scrapped the alleys and projects for some bitter old coots lookin' to start race riots and "burn this motherf**ker down".

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/30/michael-moore-moveon-org-video-features-dirty-mouthed-old-people-lambasting-republicans-romney/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/30/michael-moore-moveon-org-video-features-dirty-mouthed-old-people-lambasting-republicans-romney/)

Yeah, that'll help sway independents and scare off conservatives...NOT!

Go ahead racist old losers, burn that motherf**ker down, I dare ya!  And throw that fat-lib bastard Moore on the flames, the lard on that ass will burn for days!

 ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on October 31, 2012, 08:26:45 AM
I think the old people meant......when we look up from hell.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Speaking of spawn of hell...

Special Assistant to the President, Kareem Dale, told supporters this week at an OFA phone bank, “Let’s win this mother-f*cker!”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/top-obama-official-tells-supporters-lets-win-this-mother-fcker/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/top-obama-official-tells-supporters-lets-win-this-mother-fcker/)

Nice scowling mugshot there Kah-ream!   ::hysterical::

America is gonna kick your smug motherf**king ass out along with the SCoaMF next week, beeoch!   ::asskicking::

 ::cool::   ::whoohoo::   ::bustamove::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
Heh -

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/02/bubba-i-may-be-the-only-person-in-america-more-excited-about-obama-this-time/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/02/bubba-i-may-be-the-only-person-in-america-more-excited-about-obama-this-time/)

Yeah, only you pal!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on November 02, 2012, 11:58:23 AM
Classy.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: robins111 on November 02, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
I'm pretty sure President Mitt, and PM Harper will get along like gangbusters...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on November 02, 2012, 02:53:08 PM
Heh -

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/02/bubba-i-may-be-the-only-person-in-america-more-excited-about-obama-this-time/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/02/bubba-i-may-be-the-only-person-in-america-more-excited-about-obama-this-time/)

Yeah, only you pal!

 ::hysterical::


As usual, the comments are priceless. ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: robins111 on November 02, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
Friends, with great regret, I have to inform you that I'm leaving Sunday to go deer hunting, I will be unable to track this important election of  my American friends.  I look forward to returning in a week or so, confident that the right people are elected.... keep your powder dry... ::beertoast::
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: John Florida on November 02, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
Friends, with great regret, I have to inform you that I'm leaving Sunday to go deer hunting, I will be unable to track this important election of  my American friends.  I look forward to returning in a week or so, confident that the right people are elected.... keep your powder dry... ::beertoast::

   Enjoy and stay safe. See you when you get back.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on November 02, 2012, 06:10:36 PM
Good hunting!  Pray for us.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: benb61 on November 02, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
Friends, with great regret, I have to inform you that I'm leaving Sunday to go deer hunting, I will be unable to track this important election of  my American friends.  I look forward to returning in a week or so, confident that the right people are elected.... keep your powder dry... ::beertoast::

Good luck, I hope you bag a monster buck.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on November 02, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
Friends, with great regret, I have to inform you that I'm leaving Sunday to go deer hunting, I will be unable to track this important election of  my American friends.  I look forward to returning in a week or so, confident that the right people are elected.... keep your powder dry... ::beertoast::

Good luck and let us know when the venison will be ready.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 02, 2012, 10:45:38 PM

Good hunting.  Don't worry about Barry, the uninstall is almost complete.

(http://thehostages.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/uninstall.gif)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on November 02, 2012, 10:52:38 PM
Signs in Colorado...

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5214/photoznd.jpg)

Zoom in to read. Note the empty chair that is next to the signs in the far background.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 02, 2012, 10:57:34 PM
bronco bamma don't be gettin no lovin from them folk  :D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 03, 2012, 12:33:49 AM
Friends, with great regret, I have to inform you that I'm leaving Sunday to go deer hunting, I will be unable to track this important election of  my American friends.  I look forward to returning in a week or so, confident that the right people are elected.... keep your powder dry... ::beertoast::

Just a pound o' sausage and a pound o' jerky, and I'll be all taken care of. Don't worry about the rest o' these characters. They don't appreciate your Northern-ness like I do.
 ::exitstageleft::
Title: Obama: Vote for revenge
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 03, 2012, 12:55:10 AM
President Obama- Vote for Revenge! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rjozh5i1YU#ws)
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on November 03, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
Quote
    As is often the case when he goes off-teleprompter, at a campaign stop in Ohio today, Obama revealed a side of himself we haven’t seen since Hurricane Sandy gave him the opportunity to play The American President for a few days. The old Divider-In-Chief returned with a vengeance when in the middle of an attack on Mitt Romney he told a crowd at a campaign rally to stop booing and, ” Vote! Voting’s the best revenge!”

    What he obviously meant was that voting is the best revenge against Mitt Romney.

    What kind of divisive, ugly rhetoric is this coming from a sitting president? It’s easy to sympathize with the fact that Obama’s record gives few reasons for anyone to vote for him; and that for that reason, he’s been forced to attempt to destroy his opponent with a half-billion dollars in negative ads — but now the President of the United States is publicly telling a crowd of Americans to vote for revenge. And not just revenge, but revenge against another American.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/03/romney-vote-for-love-of-country-not-revenge/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/03/romney-vote-for-love-of-country-not-revenge/)

This is precisely what resonates with these people -- those who have been awarded phones, food, housing, schools, medical care and affirmative action -- but it's not just revenge against Romney; it's revenge against all of us who resist their totalitarianism, who refuse to be looted any further, who have and are going to vote against their vengeful tendencies.

ENOUGH.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 03, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
Quote
    As is often the case when he goes off-teleprompter, at a campaign stop in Ohio today, Obama revealed a side of himself we haven’t seen since Hurricane Sandy gave him the opportunity to play The American President for a few days. The old Divider-In-Chief returned with a vengeance when in the middle of an attack on Mitt Romney he told a crowd at a campaign rally to stop booing and, ” Vote! Voting’s the best revenge!”

    What he obviously meant was that voting is the best revenge against Mitt Romney.

    What kind of divisive, ugly rhetoric is this coming from a sitting president? It’s easy to sympathize with the fact that Obama’s record gives few reasons for anyone to vote for him; and that for that reason, he’s been forced to attempt to destroy his opponent with a half-billion dollars in negative ads — but now the President of the United States is publicly telling a crowd of Americans to vote for revenge. And not just revenge, but revenge against another American.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/03/romney-vote-for-love-of-country-not-revenge/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/03/romney-vote-for-love-of-country-not-revenge/)

This is precisely what resonates with these people -- those who have been awarded phones, food, housing, schools, medical care and affirmative action -- but it's not just revenge against Romney; it's revenge against all of us who resist their totalitarianism, who refuse to be looted any further, who have and are going to vote against their vengeful tendencies.

ENOUGH.

His talking like that causes others to chide him and say:

He wont dat riot.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 03, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
Just sayin...

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285760_10151311113507650_1903044645_n.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 03, 2012, 11:40:50 PM
Just sayin...

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285760_10151311113507650_1903044645_n.jpg)

 :D

!
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: trapeze on November 04, 2012, 01:40:48 AM
Okay...some rather detailed polling analysis theory (http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2012/10/post.php) that throws quite a bit of cold water on Nate Silver's "538 model."

Quote
We can't know until Election Day who is right. I stand by my view that Obama is losing independent voters decisively, because the national and state polls both support that thesis. I stand by my view that Republican turnout will be up significantly from recent-historic lows in 2008 in the key swing states (Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado) and nationally, because the post-2008 elections, the party registration data, the early-voting and absentee-ballot numbers, and the Rasmussen and Gallup national party-ID surveys (both of which have solid track records) all point to this conclusion. I stand by my view that no countervailing evidence outside of poll samples shows a similar surge above 2008 levels in Democratic voter turnout, as would be needed to offset Romney's advantage with independents and increased GOP voter turnout. And I stand by the view that a mechanical reading of polling averages is an inadequate basis to project an event unprecedented in American history: the re-election of a sitting president without a clear-cut victory in the national popular vote.

Perhaps, despite the paucity of evidence to the contrary, these assumptions are wrong. But if they are correct, no mathematical model can provide a convincing explanation of how Obama is going to win re-election. He remains toast.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Okay...some rather detailed polling analysis theory (http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2012/10/post.php) that throws quite a bit of cold water on Nate Silver's "538 model."

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We can't know until Election Day who is right. I stand by my view that Obama is losing independent voters decisively, because the national and state polls both support that thesis. I stand by my view that Republican turnout will be up significantly from recent-historic lows in 2008 in the key swing states (Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado) and nationally, because the post-2008 elections, the party registration data, the early-voting and absentee-ballot numbers, and the Rasmussen and Gallup national party-ID surveys (both of which have solid track records) all point to this conclusion. I stand by my view that no countervailing evidence outside of poll samples shows a similar surge above 2008 levels in Democratic voter turnout, as would be needed to offset Romney's advantage with independents and increased GOP voter turnout. And I stand by the view that a mechanical reading of polling averages is an inadequate basis to project an event unprecedented in American history: the re-election of a sitting president without a clear-cut victory in the national popular vote.

Perhaps, despite the paucity of evidence to the contrary, these assumptions are wrong. But if they are correct, no mathematical model can provide a convincing explanation of how Obama is going to win re-election. He remains toast.

Mathematics can be overcome through widespread fraud, cheating, intimidation and the media calling states for Obama before polls even close.

IMO only massive fraud and Democrat-Media Complex corruption can steal a Romney win...and if Romney prevails in a dominating electoral fashion (as he should) the only other way Obama can stay in power is through assuming dictatorial power.

The rallies for Mitt are enormous, the rallies for Stymie are pathetic, and even the tardlings are having a hard time drumming up support, the million moron march missed by about a million!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/04/lame-million-puppet-march-draws-hundreds (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/04/lame-million-puppet-march-draws-hundreds)

 ::hysterical::

The Mitt-mentum is surging, Obama has nothing...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2012, 11:58:13 AM
Heckler pounced on in Cincy -

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/wow-what-a-freak-show-heckler-totally-hijacks-obama-rally-gets-dragged-out-by-police-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/wow-what-a-freak-show-heckler-totally-hijacks-obama-rally-gets-dragged-out-by-police-video/)

"Get his ass!"

Yes, we can, tomorrow Obama's ass be got!   ::whoohoo::   ::asskicking::

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 05, 2012, 03:13:06 PM
Joe Biden Makes Campaign Stop in Rushville… MASSIVE Tractor Protest Breaks Out! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/joe-biden-makes-campaign-stop-in-rushville-massive-tractor-protest-breaks-out/?utm_source=co2hog)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on November 05, 2012, 04:29:58 PM
Joe Biden Makes Campaign Stop in Rushville… MASSIVE Tractor Protest Breaks Out! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/joe-biden-makes-campaign-stop-in-rushville-massive-tractor-protest-breaks-out/?utm_source=co2hog)




What? They were not bussed in?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on November 05, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Joe Biden Makes Campaign Stop in Rushville… MASSIVE Tractor Protest Breaks Out! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/joe-biden-makes-campaign-stop-in-rushville-massive-tractor-protest-breaks-out/?utm_source=co2hog)




What? They were not bussed in?

Right?  I mean, really now .........

Grassroots convoys are so, so pedestrian ...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on November 05, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
Joe Biden Makes Campaign Stop in Rushville… MASSIVE Tractor Protest Breaks Out! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/joe-biden-makes-campaign-stop-in-rushville-massive-tractor-protest-breaks-out/?utm_source=co2hog)




What? They were not bussed in?

Right?  I mean, really now .........

Grassroots convoys are so, so pedestrian ...


Coulda took care of half of our countries issues if we had a few rogue tractors.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on November 05, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
Shows what rural folks can do WITHOUT government help. ::bustamove::

My only problem is how many of those farmers have government subsidies from the USDA?
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 05, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Shows what rural folks can do WITHOUT government help. ::bustamove::

My only problem is how many of those farmers have government subsidies from the USDA?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 05, 2012, 05:44:03 PM

Imagining if relieved from regulation they would have little
need of subsidies.  

They should be weened from subsidies and protected from corporatism.


Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: IronDioPriest on November 05, 2012, 06:00:02 PM

Imagining if relieved from regulation they would have little
need of subsidies.  

They should be weened from subsidies and protected from corporatism.




Weaning is about the only way to do it. Grassley & Co. have done a great job addicting agriculture to the government teat. Convincing them that they (and the country) will be better off without the guaranteed flow of nanny's milk will not be an easy thing to do.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Gotta peel the bandage off quick, and quickly slash the bureaucracy & its nefarious regulation, soon enough they should realize they are better off.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 06, 2012, 01:41:57 AM

From Ace (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334684.php):

As Romney says: Forewarned (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chicago-source-tells-author-brad-thor-obama-campaign-planning-to-proclaim-early-victory-to-demoralize-romney-supporters/).

What a dick move. It's such a dick move that a half hour ago, before I read this report, I was just thinking Romney should do it himself.

Thor explains that Obama will trust in the media to carry his message of Complete and Total Domination In the Vote in order to keep conservatives, Tea Partiers, and America-loving libertarians home.

Forewarned.

Remember:

Continue reading (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334684.php#334684)

Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Predator Don on November 06, 2012, 06:29:24 AM

From Ace (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334684.php):

As Romney says: Forewarned (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chicago-source-tells-author-brad-thor-obama-campaign-planning-to-proclaim-early-victory-to-demoralize-romney-supporters/).

What a dick move. It's such a dick move that a half hour ago, before I read this report, I was just thinking Romney should do it himself.

Thor explains that Obama will trust in the media to carry his message of Complete and Total Domination In the Vote in order to keep conservatives, Tea Partiers, and America-loving libertarians home.

Forewarned.

Remember:

Continue reading (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334684.php#334684)




CO, wouldn't surprise me in the least because obummer is in trouble. I just watched Fox show Biden vote......and while he had a few shake his hand, just as many had that " look" on their face of " leave me alone" .  Obama knows this and every dirty trick will be on the table.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2012, 08:24:58 AM
Yeah, I can't put anything past the POSOTUS, but that would definitely get the rioting started...

It's OK, I can handle that...I doubt they can though...
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: AlanS on November 06, 2012, 11:27:24 AM
I just watched Fox show Biden vote.....just as many had that " look" on their face of " leave me alone" . 

Damn. A Kodak moment and I bet we NEVER see it in the media.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: Pandora on November 06, 2012, 01:13:23 PM
I just watched Fox show Biden vote.....just as many had that " look" on their face of " leave me alone" . 

Damn. A Kodak moment and I bet we NEVER see it in the media.

Aw hell, I look just like that every time I go to my polling place, outside at least.  The Dems set up as close to the door as they're legally allowed, with their Democrat candidate signs, and call out "good afternoon".  This year, what ran through my mind every time is Weisshaupt's exposition on what totalitarians they really are, so it's all I can do not to call back "eff you".  I just give 'em my grim face instead.
Title: Re: Presidential Election Watch 2012: The Democrat Edition
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 06, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Shows what rural folks can do WITHOUT government help. ::bustamove::

My only problem is how many of those farmers have government subsidies from the USDA?

I listen to conservative radio around the country much of it in smaller markets.  It's amazing how many have "farm reports" detailing the latest push for more subsidies.

Everyone always thinks it's the other guy who has to change and make do without.