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I went out this morning to take my daughter to work. Came home and gas prices had gone up 21 cents.
It's now over $4 for regular.
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Live in a Speedway or Super America dominated market?
That's how they roll. Huge weekly gouges with a cent or 2 a day drop after that...until their next gouge
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WTI - $107.52
Gas - $3.32
Up 30c per gallon from the last time I checked.
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Brent is moving up more than WTI, that is most of the reason for the runnup, but don't forget to thank the main culprit for our pain - Barack Hussein Obama and is lnow nothing/do nothing energy policy!
http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=BNO (http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=BNO)
http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=wti (http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=wti)
Lowest I see around me is 3.59. Time to start getting those notes for the pumps fired up again!
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I don't know what I'm looking at.
How's that dog doing?
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$3.759, the new gouge mark in the Twin Cities.
Wholesale up to $3.35.
Interesting little tidbit on why the market price of gas would suggest higher prices than what we're seeing in Minnesota. Face it. At $3.35 market price, we should be seeing $4 per gallon retail here, but we're not. And it's because of North Dakota creating a regional glut, driving the regional price down a little.
Just something to chew on.
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$3.70+ here.
Re: MNHawk's remark - yeah, sure; as though drilling here would help. ::)
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WTI 23.60, ??
Heh, ND is playing hell with the regime.
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But remember, the Obama Regime is really really really working hard (to bullsh*t you into believing) gas prices are trying to be lowered! All is well!
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http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/energy-secretary-renounces-call-higher-gas-prices (http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/energy-secretary-renounces-call-higher-gas-prices)
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But remember, the Obama Regime is really really really working hard (to bullsh*t you into believing) gas prices are trying to be lowered! All is well!
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http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/energy-secretary-renounces-call-higher-gas-prices (http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/energy-secretary-renounces-call-higher-gas-prices)
Anyone check to see if the Easter Bunny was seated next the good Secretary?
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Easter Bunny Obama (look at dem ears!) to release SPR...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/15/us-oil-reserves-idUSBRE82E0UM20120315 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/15/us-oil-reserves-idUSBRE82E0UM20120315)
Pointless, and reduces stocks for real emergencies like war and chaos.
God forbid this disingenuous oil-hating prick open up more domestic drilling on and off shore, stop punishing producers, end mandates and such to create real sustainable low cost gasoline!
Miserable demagogic demon!
::doublebird::
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Reg. just hit $3.89 here in S.Cent. Ohio .
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Wow, it can range 3.65-3.75 in Twin Cities, 3.89 SH?! WTI relatively unchanged, BNO down...but now WH is back-peddling on SPR release...so I guess it's all Stymie's fault still anyway!
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$3.69 is a common number out here.
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More stark evidence that the SCoaMF is one natural born lying scum-sucking low-life gutter-trash POS!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-mocks-gop-opponents-over-energy-positions-members-of-the-flat-earth-society/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-mocks-gop-opponents-over-energy-positions-members-of-the-flat-earth-society/)
What's next, mocking people for losing their jobs, when he fvcked that up too?!
What a despicable sh*t!
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$3.69 is a common number out here.
This is a good link (http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/) if you want to know average gasoline prices in different areas over time..
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California's the highest, sitting there with tar balls
floating up on the Santa Barbara coast every day, cool.
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$3.83/gallon in southwest Colorado as of today. It was $3.75/gallon on Sunday.
When it hits $4.00/gallon my company will begin to collect a fuel surcharge (an O'Bongo fee) from our customers. If they complain I will give them the names and phone numbers of our state's Democrat senators, Michael Bennett & Mark Udall.
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$3.799 the newly minted gouge mark in the TC.
Wholesale futures $3.34
Looks like the oil futures dropped 1% yesterday.
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O'Bongo Fee, heh, put the blame where it belongs Trap, I like it!
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$4.39
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Energy Secretary Steven Chu told a House panel Tuesday that he’d give himself top marks when asked to grade his policies’ effects on energy prices. (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/20/chu-i-would-give-myself-an-%E2%80%98a%E2%80%99-for-energy-prices/)
Rep. Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House committee on Oversight and Government Reform, asked President Obama’s top energy official if he’d grade himself with an “A minus” on “controlling the cost of gasoline at the pump.”
Chu responded by saying he’d give himself a better grade than that.
“The tools we have at our disposal are limited, but I would I say I would give myself a little higher in that since I became Secretary of Energy, I’ve been doing everything I can to get long-term solutions,” Chu said.
Chu would give himself the top grade on gas prices despite that fact that the average price for a gallon of gas just hit $3.87 – the highest ever recorded in the month of March, according to ABC News.
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An A isn't worth $h!t these days....
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Neither is Chu .........
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Just hit $4.00 here in Cent. Ohio .... was $3.89 last week .
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3.69 is the best I can find.
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We broke the $4 barrier about a week ago and are now hovering around $4.07.
I always thought it darkly ironic that we have two refineries in this area and still the gas is higher here than in our surrounding states.
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Take a look at this site (http://www.toomuchatthepump.com/) to see how Mr. Chu has done. You enter your make and model of car and it tells you how much it cost to fill it in January of 2009 versus today's average gas cost.
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But you see, illegal and unconstitutional moratoriums on drilling in the gulf, bans on building new refineries, stiffer regulations on existing ones, and refusal to import Canadian oil have NO effect on gas prices. Its absurd to think a President could have any control over gas prices (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373391726028584&set=a.149730225061403.24294.125955227438903&type=1&theater). Now give me control of the economy.
Hey Colorado has one of the lower gas prices? Know why? (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2012/03/visualizing-actual-price-of-gasoline.html)
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Oh oh! I know this one! Lower taxes?
ETA - Oh OK, and direct access to low cost oil, nice! Oh hey, that direct connection be local domestic, right? Hmm, wonder why Obongo would be against that!
::gaah::
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Obama visit to take credit for drilling - shuts down oilfields (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeYla4HbUtk#ws)
soitgoesintexas (http://www.soitgoesintexas.blogspot.com/2012/03/obama-visits-oil-rig-for-pr-speech-and.html)
Uploaded by on Mar 20, 2012
A voicemail message left by the Bureau of Land Management gives oil producers 24-hr notice of an Obama rig visit for campaign/pr speech. A 900 square mile area is to be evacuated and all oil field activity shut down. How ironic - let's shut the oil industry down because we are coming to take credit for encouraging it. Who are they kidding?
[blockquote]
Obama visits oil rig for PR speech and shuts down all oilfield activities for 900 square miles
President Obama is scheduled to make an energy policy speech (campaign speech) tomorrow at an oil rig near Carlsbad, New Mexico. The speech is to convince Americans that his administration has been promoting exploration and drilling, when in reality, he has waged an all out war on the petroleum industry since his inauguration.
Obama has stalled off-shore drilling permits in the Gulf of Mexico, increased regulation on the industry through the EPA, tried to take away tax incentives for increasing domestic drilling, tried to impede hydraulic fracing, denied the Keystone pipeline, etc., etc.
Now to make his public relations speech, his administration gave our nation's energy producers 24-hour notice that all activity within a 900 square mile area has to be shut down and evacuated for his politically motivated photo op.
You have a multi-million dollar drilling operation underway? Shut it down.
You have a ruptured gas line? You can't get there.
Trying to get supply in or out? No can do.
Are you an oil field worker paid by the hour or the day? Too bad.
I got a hold of this audio recording of the voicemail message left for an oil and gas producer in the area regarding the 24-hour notice to evacuate.
But don't blame the poor messengers, blame their boss.[/blockquote]
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Neither he nor his stoopit-azz people get it. Do they.
::gaah::
Within 900 miles?!
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900 sq. miles, that's a 30 mile perimeter.
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What would happen if they just didn't evacuate? What would happen if they showed up for work, and said, "The cost of shutting down for a day for a propaganda appearance for the president was too high. He'll have to speak elsewhere."
What would happen? Presumably, they are being told to shut down for security reasons. So, ruin security by showing up for work. If showing up would be somehow prohibited, they could instead work through the night, or sleep in their trucks overnight so that they would be actually on the job site before the SS showed up to evacuate them.
People have to start thinking this way. Hauling people away to jail for showing up to work would be bad campaign aesthetics. Obama being denied a propaganda stop because people demanded to be left alone to work would make him look like a fool. Obama would lose that showdown, either way.
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I wonder if Stymie pisses the same way he implements energy policy ... in dribbles . ::thinking::
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I wonder if Stymie pisses the same way he implements energy policy ... in dribbles . ::thinking::
He probably forgets to shake...
Lookie here, half a pipeline, from a half-assed SCoaMF!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/usa-keystone-obama-idUSL1E8QL0G320120321 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/usa-keystone-obama-idUSL1E8QL0G320120321)
What an ass! And this action does not make ANY construction imminent. Pure political BS, and half-assed political BS at that! What an assclown!
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900 sq. miles, that's a 30 mile perimeter.
Actually that's a 120 mile perimeter ... 30 miles on each side .
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900 sq. miles, that's a 30 mile perimeter.
Actually that's a 120 mile perimeter ... 30 miles on each side .
Oh, right, perimeter, duh!
ETA - There is no way that entire area can be made 100% secure either, what a joke, I think it a blanket zone to cover with contingencies and something more manageable like a 4-5 mile perimeter is actively engaged.
And why is Stymie bothering to visit a rig, so he can point at it and chuckle and say "we drillin' baby"? Who the frick is going to buy that BS?!
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I wonder if Stymie pisses the same way he implements energy policy ... in dribbles . ::thinking::
He probably forgets to shake...
Lookie here, half a pipeline, from a half-assed SCoaMF!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/usa-keystone-obama-idUSL1E8QL0G320120321 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/usa-keystone-obama-idUSL1E8QL0G320120321)
What an ass! And this action does not make ANY construction imminent. Pure political BS, and half-assed political BS at that! What an assclown!
No, it doesn't.
But TransCanada has not yet applied to build the southern leg, so it remains uncertain exactly which agencies would need to grant permits.
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Yes, and the states have to weigh in too. This is all PR BS and poor PR BS at that! But watch the MFM run with it like Stymie just shut up the Repub's on energy! What leadership! What bravery to buck enviromentalists! What courageous action!
::puke::
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Now 3.87 as of yesterday afternoon. That's up 4 cents in less than a week. Yay, O'Bongo!
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-slaps-obamas-tour-de-farce-keystone-xl-pipeline (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/boehner-slaps-obamas-tour-de-farce-keystone-xl-pipeline)
"It takes a special kind of politician to be able to hold a photo-op for a project he’s rejected – twice – and personally lobbied members of Congress to block. The American people are in for just such a spectacle today, as the president continues his tour de farce public relations adventure," House Speaker John Boehner said on Thursday.
President Barack Obama, making a campaign stop in Cushing, Okla., will declare his support for the southern section of the Keystone XL pipeline -- which will not connect to Canada's oil supply unless Obama approves the critical northern portion, which he has twice refused to do.
According to Boehner, Obama "will strain all credibility" on Thursday "by declaring his unwavering support for a private-sector project that he’s single-handedly prevented from being completed."
Ace said: (http://minx.cc/?post=327738)
Understand, I Didn't Bust In Your Mouth
Per se.
Bonus: Obama thinks oil costs $1.25 per barrel (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/139419/)
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“We have subsidized oil companies for a century. We want to encourage production of oil and gas, and make sure that wherever we’ve got American resources, we are tapping into them. But they don’t need an additional incentive when gas is $3.75 a gallon, when oil is $1.20 a barrel, $1.25 a barrel. They don’t need additional incentives. They are doing fine.” - Barak Hussein Obama 3-22-12
::hysterical::
He stoopit!
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Cost $107.25 to fill up yesterday.
Back in the day I could fill my twin 50s for about that.
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Cost $107.25 to fill up yesterday.
Back in the day I could fill my twin 50s for about that.
Holy cow! What the heck are you filling up, CO?
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F-150
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F-150
Oh crap. Me too. Were you almost empty? Please tell me you were running on fumes, okay? Sonofabeech.
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I don't let it get below 1/4 tank to protect the fuel pump.
So, it was that plus a five gallon jug.
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My Excursion has a 45 gallon tank, and gets about 11 MPG.
My boat has a 20 gallon tank, and gets about 1-2 MPG.
I can drive the Corolla, but the Corolla can't pull the boat.
BTW, my #1 son smashed our Camry yesterday. Welcome to high-risk insurance, sonnyboy.
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I don't let it get below 1/4 tank to protect the fuel pump.
So, it was that plus a five gallon jug.
What size tank on your truck? I've got a 25 gal. one. Gunsmith filled up three 5-gal. containers today for $40, and three small propane tanks @ $18.99 apiece; another $60+.
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Today the cheapest seen was $3.89 the most expensive $3.99.
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$3.90 per gallon this morning. They say prices will probably rise all through the summer.
Way to go, Team Zero. Great re-election strategy.
BTW, this has been making the rounds. Sorry if it's already been posted.
BLONDE Girl EXPLAINS MPH - FUNNY! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJyFxDowM8s#)
I'm guessing this is one marriage that won't last all that long.
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Gas prices expected to rise all summer long. (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/03/26/gas-prices-expected-to-continuously-increase-through-summer/)
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Expect Dem's to parade oil bosses before congress for a series of stern lectures and political grandstanding that buries the truth under a mountain of lies and an MFM that lets them get a way with it.
Some things are just too easy to predict...
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Expect Dem's to parade oil bosses before congress for a series of stern lectures and political grandstanding that buries the truth under a mountain of lies and an MFM that lets them get a way with it.
Some things are just too easy to predict...
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And the oil company execs should be ready for it. They should go on the offensive and kick his little ass all over the place. There is just no reason not to. It's not as if they can expect to get anything in return for meekly acquiescing to the asshole. Certainly the last three years have shown how that works out.
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Expect Dem's to parade oil bosses before congress for a series of stern lectures and political grandstanding that buries the truth under a mountain of lies and an MFM that lets them get a way with it.
Some things are just too easy to predict...
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And the oil company execs should be ready for it. They should go on the offensive and kick his little ass all over the place. There is just no reason not to. It's not as if they can expect to get anything in return for meekly acquiescing to the asshole. Certainly the last three years have shown how that works out.
I keep waiting for that and I keep getting disappointed, so I will hold off on any prediction on that score, as I will also refrain from predicting what Repub's will do as well, since that track record is also spotty....
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I paid $4.11 yesterday. That was for 93 octane, but still...it's painful. I'm less pissed about the expensive fuel prices than I am all the deliberate misinformation and BS swirling around it. Under the previous administration, it was a daily drumbeat from the Democrat-Media Complex that Bush wasn't doing anything about it because he was a beneficiary of it (and it wasn't even as high then as it is now, either). Now we only hear a drumbeat that the president really can't do much about gas prices even if he wants to, and once again it's those mythical "speculators" who are to blame.
When does the unreality ever end?
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It will only end when they lose and we win.
Until then...SSDD!
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Bought almost half a tank's worth today for $37 and change. 87 octane does me fine. I didn't check the price per gallon; all the stations' prices around here rarely vary by more than a penny a gallon, and the last time I did look, $3.80+ was the going rate. I refuse to buy from Citgo, so I fill up at half to avoid the possibility of having to pay Hugo.
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3.95/gallon today
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Mine actually went down to $4.19 this morning.
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Had some friends from England in town last week, they said gas there is $11 per gallon. That's the model Obama and Chu are looking to.
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Had some friends from England in town last week, they said gas there is $11 per gallon. That's the model Obama and Chu are looking to.
That bureacrats and politicians aren't decorating Englands streetlights highlights a level of indifference I doubt would exist here if prices were nearing that level.
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My daughter told me she'll give up a lot before she'll let high gas prices keep her from traveling--which is what she thinks the regime wants.
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Well, I seem to be losing the battle to buy non ethanol gas. The last station in my town to sell 100% gas has fallen. All around me is ethanol. A few stations within 30 miles of me sell non ethanol in premium only.
I'm not as sad as my bass boat. Large HP bassboat engines do not like ethanol gas, partly because ethanol does not produce the horsepower, partly because ethanol laced gas causes the primer bulbs to fail and partly, if you leave ethanol laced gas in your tank for a prolonged time, it separates and clogs up injectors, etc, resulting in large repair bills.
I did drive out of my way to put premium in my boat, 4.17 gallon, but it is 93 octane and bass engines normally preform better with 87 octane. I guess it will be the trade off I suffer. I sure hope my gov't assists be in the future with 15% ethanol. (end sarc)
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Sorry to hear that Predator Don. I still have one place in town that sells real gasoline. If they go I'll have to revert to driving 22 miles out of my way to get gas for my old Chevy.
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Check this out, Obama's increase in gas prices while in office has just surpassed Carter's!
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/04/09/gas-prices-grow-more-under-obama-than-carter (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/04/09/gas-prices-grow-more-under-obama-than-carter)
With higher prices expected into Memorial Day and the summer months, Obama is sure to out misery Carter going into his reelection push!
Get your gas pump reminder notes ready, we need to little the truth all summer and fall! ;)
ETA -
(http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/obama-carter.jpg)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/obama-to-supporters-voters-face-starkest-contrast-since-johnson-goldwater/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/obama-to-supporters-voters-face-starkest-contrast-since-johnson-goldwater/)
Couldn't resist! One moron outdoing another, priceless.
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...not to worry gas prices, like the economy, will mysteriously improve this fall...um, probably October.
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The only surprise I am looking forward to in October is a miraculous appearance of all the Boy Tyrants personal records that have been amazingly sanitized off the face of the earth! That would make my decade!
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I participated in this (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=121487&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Iowntheworldcom+%28IOwntheWorld.com%29) four years ago when it was Pelosi and Reid who were standing in the way of more drilling. I guess it's time to crank it up again. This time, though, when you put a note on a gas pump or a grocery store shelf you can take a picture of it and post it on Facebook or Twitter. As long as gas prices and inflation are on the increase this is a very powerful visual online and in real life for the unthinking independent voters.
(http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/gas-pump-sticky-note-550x4111.jpg)
Other pictures and links to be had here (http://disruptthenarrative.com/2012/02/25/its-baaaaaack-gas-pump-activism-returns/) and here. (http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/03/gas-pump-post-it-revolt-reignites/)
This is one of the images that I printed onto self adhesive labels and stuck to gas pumps in my area:
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4257/080719gaspumppremiumjp1.jpg)
Another thing that I did four years ago (and I looked all over and couldn't find a picture) was to write a message around the edge of currency (usually ten or twenty dollar bills) about how wonderful it was that this money didn't buy as much as it used to.
These are all guerrilla marketing tactics in getting a message through to potential voters...reminding them how crappy life is now and how it used to be better just a few short years ago. Any message should mention O'Bongo by name...it's much more effective...or mention O'Bongo along with "Democrat" so that people have it focused in their minds where the blame lies.
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(http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Gas-pump-Post-It-store-shelf.jpg)
Bang/Zoom!
::thumbsup::
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Eric Bolling was going to open his envelope Fri. eve . Anybody see what was in it ?
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That would be tonight.
Sarah's going to help him.
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Apparently, this gentleman did see a disclaimer (like those we posted above) on the pump he used.
Should put the blame where it properly belongs!
http://www.enterprisenews.com/topstories/x101301864/High-gas-prices-prompt-call-to-Brockton-police (http://www.enterprisenews.com/topstories/x101301864/High-gas-prices-prompt-call-to-Brockton-police)
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$5.26 a gallon, on St. John today.
First gas station after you pass 3 Recovery Act signs.
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Well, I seem to be losing the battle to buy non ethanol gas. The last station in my town to sell 100% gas has fallen. All around me is ethanol. A few stations within 30 miles of me sell non ethanol in premium only.
I'm not as sad as my bass boat. Large HP bassboat engines do not like ethanol gas, partly because ethanol does not produce the horsepower, partly because ethanol laced gas causes the primer bulbs to fail and partly, if you leave ethanol laced gas in your tank for a prolonged time, it separates and clogs up injectors, etc, resulting in large repair bills.
I did drive out of my way to put premium in my boat, 4.17 gallon, but it is 93 octane and bass engines normally preform better with 87 octane. I guess it will be the trade off I suffer. I sure hope my gov't assists be in the future with 15% ethanol. (end sarc)
This sort of crap will continue as long as the government bribes farmers to divert their corn crops to this venue .
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$5.26 a gallon, on St. John today.
First gas station after you pass 3 Recovery Act signs.
Ouch. Probably the same for the Pacific territories too, no local refining capacity means fuels have to be shipped finished.
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Well, I seem to be losing the battle to buy non ethanol gas. The last station in my town to sell 100% gas has fallen. All around me is ethanol. A few stations within 30 miles of me sell non ethanol in premium only.
I'm not as sad as my bass boat. Large HP bassboat engines do not like ethanol gas, partly because ethanol does not produce the horsepower, partly because ethanol laced gas causes the primer bulbs to fail and partly, if you leave ethanol laced gas in your tank for a prolonged time, it separates and clogs up injectors, etc, resulting in large repair bills.
I did drive out of my way to put premium in my boat, 4.17 gallon, but it is 93 octane and bass engines normally preform better with 87 octane. I guess it will be the trade off I suffer. I sure hope my gov't assists be in the future with 15% ethanol. (end sarc)
This sort of crap will continue as long as the government bribes farmers to divert their corn crops to this venue .
I've found a small station about 8 miles from me with 100% gas. I normally don't travel the road but I will now. I did make it a point to let my old station know the 250 - 300 I spend on fuel will be going elsewhere because of their choice to stop selling real gas.
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There's some shallow water between Haiti and Guantanamo.
It looks like an ideal location for an offshore refinery, all that
imported oil wouldn't have to be shipped around FL over to
LA and TX, that would save money too.
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I did make it a point to let my old station know the 250 - 300 I spend on fuel will be going elsewhere because of their choice to stop selling real gas.
::thumbsup::
::clapping::
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I read this article earlier today and have found it of some benefit. For those of you who are aware of our refining status and distribution methods, much of this will be a refresher, but there is enough interesting info to glean from this to benefit everyone.
Ignoring the Peak Oil true-believers commenting on the article, I think it does a fine job pointing out the limitations of our refining operations and the benefit of exploiting the Canadian oil sands, which as we all know probably won't be acted upon until Obama is pink-slipped or otherwise removed kicking and screaming. That Canada is our number one foreign source now seems to underscore the need to further solidy our relationship with them since they are a good neighbor and all.
The details of the tank farm at Cushing, OK caught my eye here and I guess I need to chase after some more data, I'd like to see how consumption relates to capaicty and storage on hand, but I'll see if I can dig into that another time. Right now I am fascinated with the raw numbers.
Anyway, here's the ZH article -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-oil-price-differentials-caught-between-sands-and-pipelines (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-oil-price-differentials-caught-between-sands-and-pipelines)
Most recent Petroleum report -
http://205.254.135.7/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/weekly_petroleum_status_report/current/pdf/wpsrall.pdf (http://205.254.135.7/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/weekly_petroleum_status_report/current/pdf/wpsrall.pdf)
Knowing what PADD you are in and what the stats are is interesting. I think the low fuel product numbers across all types for the East in comparison to the other PADD's is odd.
Gas prices by region, which we've linked before. I had noticed prices in Minnie have dropped to 3.50 range, which seems ot be properly reflected in this report.
http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/ (http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/)
My eyes and head are a bit tired now, too late for any meaningful analysis, maybe somebody can take a whack at it.
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The EIA numbers are just a bit off for Washington state. We're hovering around the $4 mark at everything except the discount gas stations (which are at about $3.90). We have a Shell refinery here in western Washington that has been down for repairs for months now and I've heard that this is the reason why fuel prices have been so much higher than anything except Hawaii.
The Ethanol-free gas that I but for my pickup has been running around $4.35 but it's worth it not to have to run that cat-pee that they're pushing on us elsewhere.
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Saw a Shell station for 3.19 on the highway.
Paid 2.99 with SuperShopper discount card.
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Gas prices in southern CO are at 3.75 down from 4.00 about two months ago. Still too high. The O'Bongo economy and energy policy can't end quickly enough.
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Gas cost in Tennessee is hovering around 3.00. With any type of (true) energy policy,directed at Canada and our own resources, gas cost could be held in the mid 2.50's in the states while escess supply used competing for market share with the dictators of the world.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072470158115782.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072470158115782.html)
"To recap: Congress subsidized a product that didn't exist, mandated its purchase though it still didn't exist, is punishing oil companies for not buying the product that doesn't exist, and is now doubling down on the subsidies in the hope that someday it might exist. We'd call this the march of folly, but that's unfair to fools."
How much of the fine is being tied into the price of gasoline???? All of it as usual.
We have a fictional government that is complicit in this fraud scheme. If it weren't bad enough to have these idiots mandate something unnecessarily we are now paying for something that never existed. ::outrage:: ::moneyshaker::
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072470158115782.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072470158115782.html)
"To recap: Congress subsidized a product that didn't exist, mandated its purchase though it still didn't exist, is punishing oil companies for not buying the product that doesn't exist, and is now doubling down on the subsidies in the hope that someday it might exist. We'd call this the march of folly, but that's unfair to fools."
How much of the fine is being tied into the price of gasoline???? All of it as usual.
We have a fictional government that is complicit in this fraud scheme. If it weren't bad enough to have these idiots mandate something unnecessarily we are now paying for something that never existed. ::outrage:: ::moneyshaker::
I remember this boondoggle. We don't have one elected official willing to question this idiocy. Chuck Woolery could add this to his cost cutting measures.
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Gas cost in Tennessee is hovering around 3.00. With any type of (true) energy policy,directed at Canada and our own resources, gas cost could be held in the mid 2.50's in the states while escess supply used competing for market share with the dictators of the world.
3.05 down here as of today.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/crude-spikes-news-iran-lawmakers-propose-hormuz-blockade-sanction-countries (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/crude-spikes-news-iran-lawmakers-propose-hormuz-blockade-sanction-countries)
What goes down, must come up. In this case crude, which is soaring on news out of FARS that Iranian lawmakers have drafted a bill proposing a blockade of the Straits of Hormuz for oil tankers ...
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And then continued mfg decline sucks them down again. Welcome to man-made global instability and the never ending volatility that goes with it. ::)
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Gas cost in Tennessee is hovering around 3.00. With any type of (true) energy policy,directed at Canada and our own resources, gas cost could be held in the mid 2.50's in the states while escess supply used competing for market share with the dictators of the world.
We don't need no steenkin' energy policy!
Seriously, we would be far, far better off without one.
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Yeah, Official U.S. Energy Policy: DRILL BABY DRILL
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Yeah, Official U.S. Energy Policy: DRILL BABY DRILL
"You need a solution to your energy problems, so let me introduce you to my leetle frienns...
Laissez and Faire."
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US Data Preview - 5th July 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkVLnQVR23k#)
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Gas cost in Tennessee is hovering around 3.00. With any type of (true) energy policy,directed at Canada and our own resources, gas cost could be held in the mid 2.50's in the states while escess supply used competing for market share with the dictators of the world.
We don't need no steenkin' energy policy!
Seriously, we would be far, far better off without one.
When I speak energy policy, I mean for gov't to get their intrusive azzes out of the way, which means take the spigot off.
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Been warning about our aging refineries and distribution systems for years, now the band aids are literally beginning to fall off..
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chevrons-largest-california-refinery-immediate-extreme-health-hazard-fire-energency (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chevrons-largest-california-refinery-immediate-extreme-health-hazard-fire-energency)
This will help gas prices, eh? ::facepalm::
But please, let us piss more wealth away on green boondoggles! ::outrage::
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$3.50/gallon is the tipping point for job creation (http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-coming-surge-for-new-jobless-claims.html)
(at least $3.50 in current value.. )
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yesterday it was $4.15 near me
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The SuperAmericaBPHoliday metro wide price fixing mark hit $3.859 yesterday.
Costco held at $3.599. Glad I got that membership to avoid these weekly gouges, which are a fixture of any market Super America or Speedway controls.
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The early prediction from a service we subscribe to has wholesale gas and diesel going up $.07/gallon today
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The SuperAmericaBPHoliday metro wide price fixing mark hit $3.859 yesterday.
Costco held at $3.599. Glad I got that membership to avoid these weekly gouges, which are a fixture of any market Super America or Speedway controls.
Costco's premium is 3.75 too! ::thumbsup:: Beware SA 91 (non-oxygenated) premium going for 4.50/gal! ::speechless:: (Isn't it interesting that something without all the BS in like ethanol costs MORE?!)
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Think it's up to $3.809. It was +21c this morning when I filled up. But yes, all dealers gouge the crap out of pure gas. The cost of having something only semi-legal.
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I have to top off on the way home, will hit CostCo and see where they're at. I guess it doesn't matter, tank runs low...fill tank!
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And counting using the Costco Amex card (3% more off), the end price is $3.48, nearly 40c cheaper than the established gouge mark. Yep, that $55 membership fee will pay for itself in a few months with just gas, let alone anything else bought in the store.
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SAMS 3.49.9 LAST NIGHT.
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And crude keeps rising, and my purchasing power thanks to Helicopter Ben, Turbo Timmy and Stymie is going in the crapper...what a world!
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And counting using the Costco Amex card (3% more off), the end price is $3.48, nearly 40c cheaper than the established gouge mark. Yep, that $55 membership fee will pay for itself in a few months with just gas, let alone anything else bought in the store.
I went into a new Costco here recently and didn't see anything that interested me so I didn't get a membership. Hadn't thought about the gas. I didn't realize there was that big of a price difference. I guess I should check. I'd make the membership back in weeks...
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Speaking of Costco ... Joan Rivers handcuffed herself to a shopping cart at one location to protest them for not carrying her book. ::)
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/08/08/joan-rivers-handcuffs-self-to-costco-shopping-cart-to-protest-store-not/ (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/08/08/joan-rivers-handcuffs-self-to-costco-shopping-cart-to-protest-store-not/)
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3.75 for premium (92) yesterday at local CostCo...looks like oil might be flatening, so perhaps prices will ease a bit.
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Regular unleaded, today, $3.39 but it's going up.
When I got to the city my favorite cheapest station
was $3.45. We'll catch up with y'all.
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Oil seems to be leveling at $95 area, but this news will not go over well...unless you are running against a Dem!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_PRICES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-20-11-19-24 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_PRICES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-20-11-19-24)
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Don't worry...obama to the rescue.....Gonna open up those strategic oil reserves and save us all.
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That won't do squat...which is why you are right that he'll do it...symbolism trumps real action in Libiotville... ::)
Luckily for us most will see he is part of the problem and no part of a solution...except the latter where is instant removal will make a huge impact!
Kinda like unblocking a drain plugged full of crap!
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Triple A (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_PRICES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-20-11-19-24) says that today's average price for gas sets a record (for today, August 20). The AP helpfully points out, though, that prices should be somewhat lower by Labor Day so everyone should be just happy, happy, happy.
Higher gas prices. Higher food prices. Higher taxes. Higher inflation.
Still have room to grow with interest rates but otherwise everything sucks.
Great stats for re-election efforts. Go team!
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Triple A (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_PRICES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-20-11-19-24) says that today's average price for gas sets a record (for today, August 20). The AP helpfully points out, though, that prices should be somewhat lower by Labor Day so everyone should be just happy, happy, happy.
Higher gas prices. Higher food prices. Higher taxes. Higher inflation.
Still have room to grow with interest rates but otherwise everything sucks.
Great stats for re-election efforts. Go team!
Gas was 3.65 today near work and a dozen eggs that sold foe 1.69 were 2.49,yup it's working alright.
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Gas was 3.65 today near work and a dozen eggs that sold foe 1.69 were 2.49,yup it's working alright.
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::thumbsup::
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The EIA numbers are just a bit off for Washington state. We're hovering around the $4 mark at everything except the discount gas stations (which are at about $3.90). We have a Shell refinery here in western Washington that has been down for repairs for months now and I've heard that this is the reason why fuel prices have been so much higher than anything except Hawaii.
The Ethanol-free gas that I but for my pickup has been running around $4.35 but it's worth it not to have to run that cat-pee that they're pushing on us elsewhere.
So it was @ $3.90 around the 26th of June. Then it took a nose-dive and bottomed out @ $3.49 by around July 30th. It started to creep up and I thought about topping of the vehicles but it suddenly took off and back to $3.98 (.35 in two weeks). People are shell-shocked when they pull up to the pump.
Oh, and the station just instituted a .10/gal fee for card users.
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$3.49 all over
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$3.49 all over
3.69 today.
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Paid $3.659 at Costco when most neighboring stations are also in that range. Look for the local SuperAmericaBPHoliday led pricefix to hit $3.899 any day now.
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$4.12
and everytime I grocery shop prices are up.
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Today, $3.49, Shell regular.
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$4.12
and everytime I grocery shop prices are up.
That's a fact! Looks like beef is starting to settle a bit, would like to see it drop, these prices are hard on a carnivore! But everything is higher/smaller! ::cussing::
I'll find out about gas today, will hit CostCo on the way home.
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(CNN) -- As the nation's ranches and farms endure one of the most severe droughts in decades, the Obama administration has ordered the Pentagon to look into purchasing a "second helping" of all things meat.
Economists and political analysts who spoke to CNN's Security Clearance, however, aren't optimistic that the administration's plan will bring much relief to the livestock industry, though it may help Obama politically.
The Defense Department is reviewing its purchases of beef, pork and lamb to see if room can be made to buy more now and freeze them for later.
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The military already buys approximately 94 million pounds of beef, 64 million pounds of pork, and 500,000 pounds of lamb each year. That food gets eaten by troops around the world, even in combat zones like Afghanistan.
As part of the same directive, the Department of Agriculture will be buying up to $170 million worth of meat and poultry.
"Farmers and ranchers will have an opportunity to sell more of their products at this critical time, and taxpayers will get a better price on food that would have been purchased later," White House spokesperson Jay Carney told reporters earlier this week.
This can be seen as an "opportunity" for the Defense Department to purchase meat it will need in the future at a lower price today, according to defense budget analyst Todd Harrison with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, but economists say the purchase isn't much more than a drop in the bucket for the livestock industry
"It's not going to make very much of a difference," said Jim Dunn, an agricultural economist with Penn State University. "This is one day's meat consumption," he said, referring to the $170 million the Department of Agriculture is directed to spend.
The epic drought has destroyed corn crops, forcing prices to sky-high levels. Livestock feed is primarily made up of corn, so ranchers have to dig very deep to feed the animals they plan to sell. As it becomes more expensive to produce heavier cows or pigs, ranchers are selling off their livestock sooner than usual.
With more product on the market, meat prices drop and with them the profits the ranchers need to buy more feed. The measure announced by the Obama administration is meant to raise the prices of meat by taking more product off the market.
But Dunn points out that the meat isn't disappearing. It's just going into the freezer.
"The meat is still hanging over our heads," he said.
Bruce Babcock, an economist at Iowa State University, agrees that the impact is questionable and that the purchases are just delaying the inevitable.
"Essentially what you are doing is taking purchases that will happen in the future and bringing them to today," he said.
The livestock industry must shrink to be able to afford the cost of corn, he said, meaning that some cattle and hog ranchers, for example, will begin to disinvest and reduce the size of their herds.
"The purchase is delaying the day of reckoning because what it does is, it will raise their prices somewhat now and it will allow them to purchase more feed, but that feed cost isn't going to go down for a year," Babcock said.
Even though the purchase is expected to be only a blip in the market, economist Bob Young, with the American Farm Bureau Federation, says you have to see any movement towards higher prices as a positive.
"It can't hurt," he said. "They're sucking product out of the system."
And with a presidential election just months away, the directive to move meat product off the market can also be seen as politically motivated.
"The people being hurt by the drought and the drop in meat prices are the farmers, the ranchers," said budget analyst Harrison. "So any move to help stabilize the market or keep prices from falling too far can be a political gain."
http://www.turnto23.com/weather/31358877/detail.html (http://www.turnto23.com/weather/31358877/detail.html)
So, Obama and his merry band of thugs are going to "suck product out of the system", and excuse me for believing this isn't going to mean lower prices for us little people.
Stock up now, if you can, while you can.
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Son of a ::cussing:: !
Once again everday Americans are screwed both ways!
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Sounds like a NoCo plan to me.
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Look away! Nothing to see here...
http://www.npr.org/2012/09/13/161058446/gas-sends-wholesale-prices-up-the-most-in-3-years (http://www.npr.org/2012/09/13/161058446/gas-sends-wholesale-prices-up-the-most-in-3-years)
Inflation is under control, nothing to fear, all is well, and QE will not exacerbate anything but growth, happiness and joy joy thoughts!!!
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3.88 today accross from thye dealership,up.10 cents in 36 hours.
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Yesterday:
$3.52 at local grocery. Down 7¢.
That was a lucky buy, most common is $3.59.
Out on the highway it's $3.79.
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I gotta buy this afternoon before the Bernanke-effect kicks in... ::outrage::
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The price fixing gouge mark is $3.999 now. Paid $3.829 at Costco. Darn near a $50 fill up. Would have been at a SuperAmericaBPHoliday.
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Not only willi need to fill up the truck today ( est 18 gallons), but the boat needs a drink too.( est 25 gal)
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Between QE2Infinity, Muzzies gone wild, refinery issues, storms...if not for the horrible state of the Obama-economy...these prices could be a lot worse...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/week-history-gas-prices-have-never-been-higher-0 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/week-history-gas-prices-have-never-been-higher-0)
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I gotta buy this afternoon before the Bernanke-effect kicks in... ::outrage::
Too late for me. Paid $4.19/gal yesterday. Ouch!
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4.04 at SA tonight for 92.
I know MNHawk, I know! (I had a gift card to burn up!)
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Time for folksm in CA to start posting gas prices under Obama on pumps! Could put CA in play?!
;)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-03/california-gas-stations-begin-to-shut-on-record-high-spot-prices.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-03/california-gas-stations-begin-to-shut-on-record-high-spot-prices.html)
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Yeah, what's up with that?
Prices out here are down and also down at the market.
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I dunno, I can get premium for 3.72, .30 cheaper than a couple weeks ago.
They mentioned refineries in the CA article so I am thinking there are some equipment issues there...all our infrastructure is aging and I'm sure regulators are crawling all over to be sure everything to the gnats ass is up to spec before operations resume. We blow tight money on everything but what we really need these days...
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I paid $4.559/gal for 91 in So Cal last night. That was $.20 more than a week ago.
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I paid $4.559/gal for 91 in So Cal last night. That was $.20 more than a week ago.
Might be cheaper to get a horse...
::facepalm::
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3.55.9 reg. down here
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I paid $4.559/gal for 91 in So Cal last night. That was $.20 more than a week ago.
Might be cheaper to get a horse...
::facepalm::
Might be cheaper, but it would turn my weekly commute time from 3.5 hours to about 22 hours.
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I paid $4.559/gal for 91 in So Cal last night. That was $.20 more than a week ago.
Might be cheaper to get a horse...
::facepalm::
Might be cheaper, but it would turn my weekly commute time from 3.5 hours to about 22 hours.
Get a faster horse? ::hysterical::
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And spurs.
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Those old cowboy movies had 'em tearin' up dust like nobodys business... ::whatgives::
;D
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(http://moonbattery.com/exxon.JPG)
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Ha! Yah, "just kidding". The joke's on us.
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Those old cowboy movies had 'em tearin' up dust like nobodys business... ::whatgives::
;D
Roy Rogers and the Lone Ranger used to cover 30 mi in a couple minutes. ::hysterical::
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Giddyup! ;D
Nice sign G, gotta make copies of that one and decorate some pumps!
::thumbsup::
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The current price of gas in my town is $3.89/gallon.
A side note on the price of gas when O'Bongo took office...it was artificially low because of the worldwide economic downturn...a supply and demand issue. The demand was down because of the worldwide recession at its peak and therefore the supply was huge, driving the price way down. A few months before BO took office the price was in the mid to low $2/gallon range...mid to low $3 range a few months before that. And, I do remember the phenomenon of posting stickers on gas pumps in the months leading up to the 2008 election protesting the high price of gasoline...they were directed at Senate Majority Leader Reid, Speaker of the House Pelosi and Senator Obama. Here is a picture of one of those gas pump stickers:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img116/4257/080719gaspumppremiumjp1.jpg)
Here's another:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhEA/SIKIv50NbwI/AAAAAAAAHlQ/bTnz0kgy1E0/s400/080719-gas-pumps3.jpg)
Here is a link (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/get-your-gas-pump-stickers-here.html) to Doug Ross @Journal from July 2008 with printable copies of the gas pump stickers. So yeah, the price was high in the year leading up to the economic "crisis" of late 2008/early 2009.
And the price of gas was only below $2 for a short period of time in early 2009. So...setting the record straight.
This does not, however, take anything away from how high the price is today. It's ridiculously high because of BO's policies. That is indisputable. It's fair to say that Democrat policies are always bad for gasoline prices. Remember the Carter years and gas lines.
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Zero (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-09/why-oils-post-qe-plunge-may-be-over) says it's going back up. Yesterday local Shell 3.49. Topping off this evening.
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Up to 3.65.9 in a couple of days. The radio was saying that gas prices were down statewide as I was looking at the sign with a .10 cent price hike on it.
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Up to 3.65.9 in a couple of days. The radio was saying that gas prices were down statewide as I was looking at the sign with a .10 cent price hike on it.
Who ya gonna believe, the radio or yer lyin' eyes?
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Pretty much everybody in my neck of the woods is price fixing at 3.839. Costco at $3.59p, a full 20c cheaper than the next closest station and 24c cheaper than most. The biggest spread I've seen since I joined a few months ago.
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CostCo does have the best deal in my neck of the woods, that is a fact.
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Small town price (usually more expensive than the city) today - $3.45.
So much for Zero and his V QE3 graph.
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QE has sputtered, which concerns me, these Neo-Keynesian fools might just goose it more than they already are. If we've reached diminishing returns on Kabuki it only means the zipper is about to rip. Poor Romney could have the mother-of-all-nightmares on his hands right out then chute.
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QE has sputtered, which concerns me, these Neo-Keynesian fools might just goose it more than they already are. If we've reached diminishing returns on Kabuki it only means the zipper is about to rip. Poor Romney could have the mother-of-all-nightmares on his hands right out then chute.
Imagine all the lame duck will do via EO to make it really tough on the new guy.
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QE has sputtered, which concerns me, these Neo-Keynesian fools might just goose it more than they already are. If we've reached diminishing returns on Kabuki it only means the zipper is about to rip. Poor Romney could have the mother-of-all-nightmares on his hands right out then chute.
Imagine all the lame duck will do via EO to make it really tough on the new guy.
Then Romney better get his own EO-signing hand in shape.
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All Romney needs is
Ctrl Alt Del
rinse and repeat.
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Yeah, he'll have carpal tunnel day 1.
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3.59.9 last night was 3.64.9 the same morning
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$3.549 for me last night at Costgo. Lowest in a couple months. Everyone else in town just dropped into the $3.70's. Why anyone still goes to the cartel of SuperFraud/BP/Holiday is beyond me. That membership is going to pay for itself several times over.
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$3.549 for me last night at Costgo. Lowest in a couple months. Everyone else in town just dropped into the $3.70's. Why anyone still goes to the cartel of SuperFraud/BP/Holiday is beyond me. That membership is going to pay for itself several times over.
Will hit the CostCo on the way home today.
I still have some legacy points from Superfraud...all I do is print off a $.50/gal coupon off and fill up on a Tuesday when they match...when I remember to do it that is...once those retarded points are gone so am I...I figure by year end that crap will be used up.
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SA on Bloomington Ferry Road & 169 was $3.499 this morning. I think there's a gas war going on over there.
From the place I was banned at. ::evil:: (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/)
Yes, definite gas war in Bloomington.
Which makes all the $3.70's in Eden Prairie look all the more obnoxious! ::doublebird::
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You were banned? ::hysterical::
Lemme guess, attacked the corporate cartel did ya?
I had a co-worker get banned from Kinnick Stadium, I'd say that was worse! Especially since he was Iowa born & bred and a massive Hawkeye fan. Too drunk & rowdy for Kinnick? Didn't think that was possible! ::hysterical::
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They had a Republican purge, wow, 7 years ago now. I was one of the earliest members, and one of the first million pointers.
I was told not to respond to another member who liked to type up things like 50% of the US budget is for the military. He also liked to start threads like, "Lies and the liars that tell them" in order to put Bush quotes into. I would copy paste his quotes and insert them into thread. I was told to stop. I didn't. ::evil::
Another guy (a missionary for God's sakes!) was banned for using the term loony liberal.
Another was banned for complaining. So on and so on.
They're a website governed by who complains. Leftists, being leftist pieces of garbage, complain about speech they don't like, hence...
Tef,
It doesn’t matter, we’ve asked you to stop, and it’s our website.
So there I sit, ranked 6400, without a bullet.
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They had a Republican purge, wow, 7 years ago now. I was one of the earliest members, and one of the first million pointers.
I was told not to respond to another member who liked to type up things like 50% of the US budget is for the military. He also liked to start threads like, "Lies and the liars that tell them" in order to put Bush quotes into. I would copy paste his quotes and insert them into thread. I was told to stop. I didn't. ::evil::
Another guy (a missionary for God's sakes!) was banned for using the term loony liberal.
Another was banned for complaining. So on and so on.
They're a website governed by who complains. Leftists, being leftist pieces of garbage, complain about speech they don't like, hence...
Tef,
It doesn’t matter, we’ve asked you to stop, and it’s our website.
So there I sit, ranked 6400, without a bullet.
It must have been that Tone thing that was going around. ::thinking::
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1st Amendment loathing weak-minded candy-crowley-asses.
3.74 for 92 at CostCo, my beast only guzzles the best.
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Today I saw an Obama/Biden sign at a street corner right under a gas station sign. I thought it would be very appropriate to put an additional sign right next to the Obama sign that reads "If you want four more years of these gas prices" and a giant arrow pointing upward.
I need to have some made.
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This is a breakdown of exactly what we are paying for when we buy a gallon of gasoline. So much Leftist demagoguery against "BigOil" rails against their profit margin. They demonize energy producers as greedy corporate pigs, interested only in their own profit and the political control it can buy.
But... The key takeaway from this analysis?
On each gallon of gasoline (priced at a currently laughable $3.27/gallon):
Government collects in taxation: .39¢/gallon
BigOil profits? Only .08¢/gallon
Who is the greedy pig feeding a beast at the public's expense? BigOil, or the federal government?
What exactly are we paying for in a gallon of gasoline? (http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2012/01/27/what-am-i-paying-for-in-the-price-of-a-gallon-of-gasoline/?utm_source=paid.outbrain.com&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices)
ETA: And WHY is the GOP so feckless at making this point when they make the case that the Left is anti-business? They have a prime piece of evidence here, and they should wield it like a club.
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OMG! You are NOT using BigOil propaganda, aka an industry source, as factual, are you? :o
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North Carolina has a floor for gas taxes to ensure the State gets so many cents per gallon despite the price. Nice, huh.
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That SA I pass as I go into Bloomington is down to $3.469. The BP few blocks back into Eden Prairie is all the way down to $3.699. I've never seen such a sustained spread with stations so close. It's like all of Bloomington is a quarter cheaper than all of Eden Prairie.
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North Carolina has a floor for gas taxes to ensure the State gets so many cents per gallon despite the price. Nice, huh.
Ours has statutes preventing under-cutting price wars, supposed to keep big players from crushing Mom & Pop operators into oblivion, but all it does is encourage collusion among retailers and there really aren't much if any Mom & Pop gas stations left anyway, so...it's all bullsh*t.
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Fluctuating so much I don't pay attention anymore. When I need gas I buy it. And please, can we quit with the 'Rewards" cards already? I have enough crap in my wallet without a dozen reward cards.
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The BP one used to be really nice. 5% back on BP products. Using that card at a BP made them as cheap as anyone around, outside of membership places.
Then they ruined it. The payback might have been better than the typical 1% card... if you had a 20 gallon tank, as payback was a one time payout up to 20 gallons. If you only can put in 10 gallons, you're SOL, as payback came to about 0.6% or 0.7%.
That's when I went Costgo. 3% back (Costco Amex) on $3.549 is a better deal than 5% back on $3.699.
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The major grocer out here offers a MasterCard. Use the card for purchases and for every $100.00 purchase receive .15 discount on gas. Works for me.
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The major grocer out here offers a MasterCard. Use the card for purchases and for every $100.00 purchase receive .15 discount on gas. Works for me.
There's a grocer here that offers something similar except it would require I shop at that store. It's a union shop with high prices and not much selection.
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...can we quit with the 'Rewards" cards already? I have enough crap in my wallet without a dozen reward cards.
As long as I can keep my Cabela's.
::unknowncomic::
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...can we quit with the 'Rewards" cards already? I have enough crap in my wallet without a dozen reward cards.
As long as I can keep my Cabela's.
::unknowncomic::
I do carry my Bass Pro card with me. Everyone has a rewards card now. Was in ace hardware... "want a rewards card?" MAPCO Gas...same thing. Grocery store, Airline miles, I need a separate wallet just for those dang cards. Never have the correct one on me anyway. ( well, except Bass Pro)
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Target, 5% off, which makes them 5% (less 1c ::laughonfloor:: ) cheaper than WalMart.
Pass on the Cub card. 5c off at Holiday for $50 spent. I go to Costgo and get 20c off.
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The 30c range holds, between the cartel of Eden Prairie, and the Bloomington market which has a healthy mix of Indy stations.
$3.599 throughout Eden Prairie, $3.299 as soon as you cross the border into Bloomington. It could be worse. I saw a lot of $3.699's in St. Paul, going to church yesterday.
Falling fast. But the spread...yikes! I guess a few station owners are trying to milk the high prices a few more days as wholesale plummets.
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The 30c range holds, between the cartel of Eden Prairie, and the Bloomington market which has a healthy mix of Indy stations.
$3.599 throughout Eden Prairie, $3.299 as soon as you cross the border into Bloomington. It could be worse. I saw a lot of $3.699's in St. Paul, going to church yesterday.
Falling fast. But the spread...yikes! I guess a few station owners are trying to milk the high prices a few more days as wholesale plummets.
Most stations price gas inventory on a LIFO basis, so quick to rise slow to fall is the norm, the spreads will fall into a narrower range in a few days...
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$3.499 down to $3.239 as I cross the border into Bloomington.
I don't think it's LIFO, I just think it's having no Indy stations in EP. If you're dominated by the Big 3, you have higher prices. Bloomington has a lot of Indy stations that immediately start forcing the price down, after a coordinated weekly gouge. EP certainly participates in the weekly bout of price fixing, it's just no one starts forcing prices down after such, so the prices stay high.
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Those outside of the Twin Cities probably have no idea to the extent TC gas stations price fix, once a week. If I didn't live here I wouldn't believe it myself.
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx)
In a time of volatility it doesn't come through as well as it would in a time of price stability, but you can sill see the saw like graph of our gas prices. The weekly spike as all stations price fix as a point set by SuperAmerica, just to have the price start drifting down during the week as stations compete, then after another week, price fix.
I've still not witnessed that in any other city.
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It's been stuck here at ~ $3.98/gal for the last couple of weeks. Full service stations are still ~$4.10/gal.
Whatever the price, I plan to top everything off before 11/06/12. (including all those cans I found along the roadway ;-)
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$3.79 in southern Colorado right now. Was on the road last week and the price was not appreciably lower elsewhere which was unusual.
Drudge was claiming a few days ago that the price of gas was going to come down about $0.50/gallon in the next couple of weeks due to a supply backlog. Would be nice but I will believe it when I see it.
My local price is down $0.10 from last month. Whoopee.
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$3.79 in southern Colorado right now. Was on the road last week and the price was not appreciably lower elsewhere which was unusual.
Drudge was claiming a few days ago that the price of gas was going to come down about $0.50/gallon in the next couple of weeks due to a supply backlog. Would be nice but I will believe it when I see it.
My local price is down $0.10 from last month. Whoopee.
Plus, the refining is shifting to the less expensive winter blends.
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This is not good news, oil (WTI) & gasoline are coming down, why? Demand is going into the crapper, as have been corporate earnings...the disaster of Obamanomics is killing economic growth, if we had real growth friendly policies, if we had the printing presses shut down, and if we had tapped all available domestic resources we'd be in much better shape all around.
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This is not good news, oil (WTI) & gasoline are coming down, why? Demand is going into the crapper, as have been corporate earnings...the disaster of Obamanomics is killing economic growth, if we had real growth friendly policies, if we had the printing presses shut down, and if we had tapped all available domestic resources we'd be in much better shape all around.
In support of your statement, I just heard on the radio "news" there's a surplus of oil on the world market.
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This is not good news, oil (WTI) & gasoline are coming down, why? Demand is going into the crapper, as have been corporate earnings...the disaster of Obamanomics is killing economic growth, if we had real growth friendly policies, if we had the printing presses shut down, and if we had tapped all available domestic resources we'd be in much better shape all around.
In support of your statement, I just heard on the radio "news" there's a surplus of oil on the world market.
Yup. But I wouldn't be surprised if China & India don't take advantage of the drop and buy/store much of this for a rainy day...
Actually, we should be topping off SPR when it levels off too, because after Obama gets bounced, sentiment will change...and actually seeing him dragged out of the White House in January will definitely be the bullish for growth kickoff!
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$3.439 in the cartel led Eden Prairie drops to $3.149 :o as I cross the border.
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The CostCo this afternoon should treat me well.
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Obama's failed agenda tour lowering gas prices to make a point
Marathon Gas $1.84 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5JkYCVct7k#ws)
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$3.299 at the Eden Prairie cartel, $3.109 over the border in Bloomington...
$3.089 at my local Costgo.
::danceban::
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The SuperAmericaHolidayBP cartel is trying to push a $3.359 gouge but my friendly local Costgo remains at $3.099.
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The SuperAmericaHolidayBP cartel is trying to push a $3.359 gouge but my friendly local Costgo remains at $3.099.
Heck, costco's premium lower than the cartel's regular!
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Shell regular $3.15
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In my town the price was all the way down to $3.09 on Tuesday. Today (Thursday) it is $3.39.
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I paid $3.999 last night in So Cal. Cheapest it has been in 6 months.
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Most of the cartel in my neck of the woods is at $3.099.
Costgo? $2.989. ::beertoast::
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Winter blend and reduced demand because of the horsesh*t economy.
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Bakken is #2, bigger than Alaska now and its been said that Eagle Ford may be bigger than Bakken. Saudi Arabia knows they have diminishing capacity, and the embargo on Iran.
The biggy is things are topsy turvy for them and they haven't figured out how to screw us in this scenario.
I have confidence that they will figure it out.
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I paid $3.049 this morning in South Carolina.
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$3.08 for premium at CostCo.
PS for MNHawk: I cashed in my last SA coupon last week, I am now free of the cartel! ::whoohoo::
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$2.939 at Costco this morning. ::thumbsup::
I cashed in my last SA coupon last week, I am now free of the cartel!
But...but...3 cents off per gallon if you use their card. 5 cents off at Holiday if you spend $50 at Cubs for $40 worth of groceries. What deals!
::thinking::
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$2.939 at Costco this morning. ::thumbsup::
I cashed in my last SA coupon last week, I am now free of the cartel!
But...but...3 cents off per gallon if you use their card. 5 cents off at Holiday if you spend $50 at Cubs for $40 worth of groceries. What deals!
::thinking::
My disdain for their antics is plentiful, but it was most eggregious in that to cash in your continuously devalued points (I think a Neo-Keynesian managed this atrocity) you have to go into their lair (aka the store) and use their notoriously slow and frustrating kiosk to print off your coupons (adding several minutes to your cartel agony) then que up to pay the cashier.
::cussing:: that noise! No more, what a monumental waste of time and effort that BS is! ::mooning::
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A couple places close to me have creeped under 3 bucks.
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Saw between $2.88 and $2.93 while out and about this AM.
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3.14.9 at sams an hour ago.
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According to Gas Buddy a few stores in my nape of the neck have premium dipping below $3! See what crushing an economy into the dust can do for prices?!
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Gas war in Shakopee. $2.819-$2.829
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(http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/images/charts/Oil/Inflation_adjusted_gasoline_price.jpg)
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Wait. Peak something... ::thinking::
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Locally, the cartel doubled down on the $3.199 gouge mark while Costgo went all the way up to $2.939.
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Back to 3.35.9 down here.
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Some grist (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/04/gasoline-prices-starting-to-rise-again/1810175/) for the mill...
That early winter break you've been getting at the gasoline pump? It's beginning to show signs of cracking.
Gasoline prices remain below $3 a gallon in at least 50% or more outlets in 14 states. But the national average has crept up three cents to $3.30 a gallon the past week and 8 cents since hitting a 2012 low of $3.22 in mid-December.
It's likely to get worse in the coming weeks. Crude oil prices are up about $10 a gallon the past month, with benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude closing at $93.09 a barrel Friday, finishing the week up 2.5%.
"The celebration is over,'' says Patrick DeHaan, senior energy analyst at gasbuddy.com, which operates 250 North American price-tracking websites. DeHaan expects prices to rise another 35 cents a gallon through early April before peaking at about $3.95 a gallon. That's on par with 2012's $3.94 peak and but below 2008's all-time record $4.11.
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"Americans think there should be this magic formula based on oil supplies. But refineries are the big wildcard," he says. "And even with higher energy production, increased fuel efficiency and lower consumption, we still may face rising gas prices.''
Their plan is working out quite nicely, yes?
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"Americans think there should be this magic formula based on oil supplies. But refineries are the big wildcard," he says. "And even with higher energy production, increased fuel efficiency and lower consumption, we still may face rising gas prices.''
Their plan is working out quite nicely, yes?
Yes, crush the industry with multiple layers of bureaucracy, impose mandates, and prevent new plant production..
Prices will naturally have to rise due to the man-made crunch...
It's the only way you can get uneconomical alternatives launched and subsidized up the wazoo...
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$2.799 at Costco...$2.999 at the rest of the local cartel.
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Ours is right back up to $3.43+.
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I paid $3.899/gal for super in San Diego this weekend.
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Heard the report this AM that the national rate went up a whopping six cents...
::ohno::
...alternative fuel! ...alternative fuel!
Ahhh, shaaddup!
::slapfight::
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3.45 at flying J and 3.32.9 at Sams.
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Taking the Big Jump, now. $2.999 Costco $3.199 Cartel, now.
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And still no progress on unicorn fart technology, whassupwitdat?! ::hysterical::
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And still no progress on unicorn fart technology, whassupwitdat?! ::hysterical::
Blame Ted Nugent, it escaped, crossed Nugen's backyard and became another trophy. Can't find a replacement. ::laughonfloor::
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The fact that gas prices went down drastically prior to election day and are now zooming back up would indicate ( during any ordinary year ) something afoul in the scheme of things . Of course , jamming a square peg into an oval office (twice) goes against the scheme of things too .
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And still no progress on unicorn fart technology, whassupwitdat?! ::hysterical::
Blame Ted Nugent, it escaped, crossed Nugen's backyard and became another trophy. Can't find a replacement. ::laughonfloor::
Heh, I wonder how that tasted? ;D
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Up another dime at the cartel stations, a full 30c cheaper at Costgo, again.
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Stop & Shop (regional grocery chain) offers $.05 / gal off for card members + an additional $.10 / gal per $100 spent. W/ a fam of 6 to feed, the savings on gas is substantial. Easily offsets (I think) teh inflation of the groceries themselves.
Cutting coupons makes it go even further.
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.I should probably start doing that!
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Dan, check this out: http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1835.msg20713.html#msg20713 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1835.msg20713.html#msg20713)
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Dan, check this out: http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1835.msg20713.html#msg20713 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1835.msg20713.html#msg20713)
I forgot about the [::pandora scream::] in your post, CO; that was funny.
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I jusr clocked CVS the had a buiy 30 bucks worth of on sale paper towels and get a 10 dollar gift card so I bought 4,18 mega roll paper towels for 30 bucks and I did it twice.
So I end up with 96 rolls of paper towels for 60 bucks.
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I jusr clocked CVS the had a buiy 30 bucks worth of on sale paper towels and get a 10 dollar gift card so I bought 4,18 mega roll paper towels for 30 bucks and I did it twice.
So I end up with 96 rolls of paper towels for 60 bucks.
What brand. Yes it matters to the wife.
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I jusr clocked CVS the had a buiy 30 bucks worth of on sale paper towels and get a 10 dollar gift card so I bought 4,18 mega roll paper towels for 30 bucks and I did it twice.
So I end up with 96 rolls of paper towels for 60 bucks.
What brand. Yes it matters to the wife.
Scott with the chose a size sheets.
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Costco moved to $3.179 over the weekend. Look for a local cartel gouge to at least $3.399 this week if not $3.499.
It's only January!
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If the ramp up to Memorial Day weekend is kicking off now... ::speechless::
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Look for a local cartel gouge to at least $3.399 this week if not $3.499.
I really hate being so full of such awesomness.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/097/b/9/Flex_Emoticon_by_mikekearn.png)
The Cartel did move to $3.499 yesterday. Every last ScamAmerica, Scamiday, and ScamishPetrolium.
Costgo $3.259
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I really hate being so full of such awesomness.
I can tell, you hide it so well. ;D
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::thinking::
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I paid $4.059 last night in SoCal. That was about a 40 cent/gal increase from last week.
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3.49.9 again
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Another fine edition to the "Well, duh!" files -
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/)
"Greco continued saying he believes the EPA was wrong to give the 'green light' to E15 while tests were still going on."
No sh*t?! Who are they accountable to again? Nobody? Ya got that right!
Tom Buis, shill for Big Ag, his words reflect his actions! What an asshole!
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Another fine edition to the "Well, duh!" files -
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/)
"Greco continued saying he believes the EPA was wrong to give the 'green light' to E15 while tests were still going on."
No sh*t?! Who are they accountable to again? Nobody? Ya got that right!
Tom Buis, shill for Big Ag, his words reflect his actions! What an asshole!
I'm told an engine additive called Seafoam helps alleviate the damage from ethanol. Haven't tried it yet, but the reviews are good .....
http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-SF-16-Motor-Treatment/product-reviews/B0002JN2EU (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-SF-16-Motor-Treatment/product-reviews/B0002JN2EU)
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Another fine edition to the "Well, duh!" files -
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/study-epa-approved-ethanol-gasoline-blend-found-to-gunk-up-engines/)
"Greco continued saying he believes the EPA was wrong to give the 'green light' to E15 while tests were still going on."
No sh*t?! Who are they accountable to again? Nobody? Ya got that right!
Tom Buis, shill for Big Ag, his words reflect his actions! What an asshole!
I'm told an engine additive called Seafoam helps alleviate the damage from ethanol. Haven't tried it yet, but the reviews are good .....
http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-SF-16-Motor-Treatment/product-reviews/B0002JN2EU (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-SF-16-Motor-Treatment/product-reviews/B0002JN2EU)
Used Sea Foam for decades, I love that stuff!
Back when I had a car with an engine bay I could access and a 'ol fashioned carb I would pour that stuff down the hatch and then go fog the neighborhood!
;D
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For the archive -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-01/day-history-gas-prices-have-never-been-higher (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-01/day-history-gas-prices-have-never-been-higher)
Winning, O'Bongo style.
::)
Life doesn't have to be this way, but it is.
::gaah::
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Cool! Thanks, Libertas.
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3.55.9 today
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3.59.9 today.
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Been paying close to 3.70 for premium, from what I can tell it seems to be supply jitters more than anything due to middle east, but that always ebbs and flows...
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Well, that's $3.80 today, after another 10c bump by the cartel. $3.599/$3.799, 20c less at Costco.
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3.69.9 today .10 overnight.
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Paid $3.27 yesterday and today it is $3.49 ::speechless::
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Appears some supply issues in CA are causing some diversions and some refinery maintenance, too early for the summer blend switch over though...no doubt details are being supressed by The Regime...
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Paid 3.21 today at sams Club.
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CostCo has regular unleaded at 3.40 & premium at 3.57. Cartels are all at 3.60 and up for regular. :P
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$3.799 at the cartel over lunch. Costco $3.529.
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Got 92 at CostCo yesterday, $3.70...I think I felt that. ::saywhat::
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I paid $4.359/gal last night for super in SoCal.
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Ouch!
Did you at least get a reach-around with that?! ::speechless::
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I paid $4.359/gal last night for super in SoCal.
Nothing like subsidizing stupidity ::facepalm::
Made plans to escape yet?
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I paid $4.359/gal last night for super in SoCal.
Nothing like subsidizing stupidity ::facepalm::
Made plans to escape yet?
I'm looking in to it a little more seriously.
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I paid $4.359/gal last night for super in SoCal.
Nothing like subsidizing stupidity ::facepalm::
Made plans to escape yet?
I'm looking in to it a little more seriously.
Great idea.
3.73 today.
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$3.67 today in Eastern Missouri
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3.43 in Tennessee now.....and most stations are crossing the 3.50 barrier.
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On a nationwide basis the cost has gone up over 13% the past month, and the economy blows...any legitimate demand comes along or a surprise in the production and distribution chain and prices could get fugly in a hurry. And I know refineries are whipping up the summer blend ::) now.
:P
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That Gulf refinery in CA burned down last month.
ETA: This topic was originated by LV, March 09, 2012.
Hope they're doing OK.
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$3.859 cartel, $3.699 Costgo. Look for the push to $3.999 for the weekend, at the cartel.
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I paid $4.499/gal last night for super in SoCal.
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I will swing by CostCo this afternoon and top off, looks like they are at 3.76 for premium as of 2 hours ago. (3.61 for Reg)
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3.88.9 today!!! ::cussing::
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From what I can tell, the price per gallon rises every day, and has for something like 27+ days in a row. If Obongo wasn't in office, the Presstitutes would be screaming about this as they were when GW was President.
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Yeah, instead we're being treated to articles with titles such as "Why the price of gas doesn't really matter" and "Why the president is powerless to affect the price of gas".
But there's no media bias, conspiracy theorists.
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My frined, on her express bus commute from Staten Island to Manhattan this morning, saw a BP station on 21st St and the West Side charging $4.19.
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Are you planning to leave NYC at some point Rick? It's not somewhere I'd want to be when things really start getting extracurricular.
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Are you planning to leave NYC at some point Rick? It's not somewhere I'd want to be when things really start getting extracurricular.
With my health, it's very hard. Not just moving, but finding a good EP cardio who is taking on new patients and who can monitor my brand of ICD; I'm tethered to doctors plus 'my' hospital. And my immediate 'family' are on the 'leave me the fukc alone or I'll kill you' list, so no help from that quarter; Dad's dead and Mom's got Alzheimers (sounds like a Warren Zevon song).
I'm not sure what I'm going to do but I may end up going down with the zombie apocolypse.
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I expect ya won't go lightly into that good night, so we'll be prayin' for ya! ::thumbsup::
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::thumbsup::
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Past the hump? I filled up at Costco for $3.649 and the rest of the cartel slipping to $3.799.
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I hope so, paying close to $4 for premium sucks, not as bad as poor Ben in CA, but still.
I'll hit CostCo tomorrow afternoon and see.
ETA - Premium was at $3.82.
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The government watchdog group Judicial Watch is suing the Treasury Department for records pertaining to the department’s decision to grant a Chinese government-backed company access to oil deposits in the Gulf of Mexico, a move that will benefit Obama donors. -
See more at: http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.68X3glJR.dpuf (http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.68X3glJR.dpuf)
He's giving our oil to the Chinese. Well, that sword cuts us on both sides. He only helps those without the taint of western colonialism. That's his bottom line.
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Short of being caught on video tape murdering someone (and even then I have my doubts) nothing a libiot asshat does has legal consequences, or political (obviously).
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Actually dropping now. $3.489 at Costco, saw a $3.499 at a BP near church.
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Prices are coming down, I paid $4.279/gal for super last night in SoCal. Anyone know, why the drop?
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Prices are coming down, I paid $4.279/gal for super last night in SoCal. Anyone know, why the drop?
Why? Because, per Bob Schieffer, we're in the 45th month of recovery.
If Owebama can get rid of that pesky 22nd Amendment, then he'll have a shot a keeping this country in a recession/depression longer than FDR. And you know Barry wants that title.
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Oil been coming down a bit, I think the Cyprus thing is sucking attention away and there is no new oil supply threat on the radar now, of course since a lot of oil is in 7th century barbarian hands that won't last long, and as Rick notes, we have the O'Bongo to screw up a good thing, so enjoy the dip.
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Thanks for the headsup. Courtesy of Northern Tool and garage sales I've been hedging for the past three years.
It's actually not a lot of money but it's paid for the cans, many double cheeseburgers and, of course, priceless pleasure.
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$3.63 for premium at CostCo this afternoon, about as good as I can find.
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$3.63 for premium at CostCo this afternoon, about as good as I can find.
I'd love to pay less than $4.00/gal for super. OMG what did I just type. 20 years ago I never thhought gas would ever cost more than $2.00/gal.
::cussing:: ::gaah:: ::facepalm::
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$3.63 for premium at CostCo this afternoon, about as good as I can find.
I'd love to pay less than $4.00/gal for super. OMG what did I just type. 20 years ago I never thhought gas would ever cost more than $2.00/gal.
::cussing:: ::gaah:: ::facepalm::
I know. Just imagine we could have under $2 if we had a sensible energy policy in this nation that wasn't contrived by cronies, beholden to environmentalist job-killing whackos and where the people were not such naive useless sheep!
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Don't look now, but just like that, the cartel is leading local prices back up near $4. $3.899 at all SuperFraudScamocoScamiday stations
$3.699 at Costco, now.
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And isn't it a hoot how laws are on the books to limit the minimum to be charged? Easier to game the relatively tamed consumer with gubmint helping set the floor! ::gaah:: ::rockets::
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And just like that, $4.199 (at the Cartel), now, the highest I've ever seen here. Filled up for $3.759 at Costco in the morning, a full 45c cheaper than the price fixing mark.
That membership pays for itself easier and easier.
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As of this morning still at 45c spread
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/ (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/)
Unbelievable.
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http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html (http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html)
Nice chart.
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They say it is because two refineries in the Chytcago region are "down for maintenance"...They are not saying why this is needed or even why both have to be down at the same time.
Now, I can ascribe all manner of theories and such but lets just cut to the chase here...They are lying to us...not about the shutdowns, but the reasons behind them...we all know (or should know) our refineries are aging and we have not built any new ones for, what, 40 years? I suspect there are breakdowns occuring more and more often, and that since the libiots in general and Obama Regime in particular hate oil with a passion that the news of more and more breakdowns in our aging refineries is being deliberately downplayed in order to keep public pressure from pushing Congress to fund new refinery capacity.
And our weak pant-pissing Pubbies are too stupid to proactively fight for us...so...get used to higher prices! (I am hearing through Memorial Day, possibly Independence Day...nice how They know all that, but nothing else...eh?!)
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That graph, from a guy that's in the business of delivering wholesale gas (I used to converse with him at the gas price website I was banned from, for irritating a hippy ::evil:: ) is predicting an SA led gouge to $4.299 today.
He's usually right.
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From what I saw posted at local cartels I'd say that was a safe prognostication.
I paid $4.15 at CostCo for premium, it went up $0.18 from when I checked online before I left the office to the station 45 minutes later.
If premium is that high at CostCo, the cartels are have to be charging around $4.40.
ETA - According to http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/ (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/) in Da Hood, cartels got premium for $4.49 as a median price! ::mooning::
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Still 3.45 on the street here but I'm sure it's coming.
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Yep, driving to work, $4.299 it is. Premium is 20c higher.
We'll see how long I can milk my $3.749 tank full.
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I rack up a lot of miles. Filled up with premium at CostCo this afternoon at $4.30, that is what the SA cartel is charging for regular 87 octane. :P :P
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Day before yesterday they said bbls were going up
yesterday they said it was going down. Passed
a station on the highway for $3.73 three miles later
a Shell had it for $3.30, nailed that one.
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I do 80 miles a day just back and forth to work. ::gaah::
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Did that for ten years, loved it.
City money and country living.
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I do 80 miles a day just back and forth to work. ::gaah::
I do 90 and then I have to travel to different projects sometimes another 60 mins driving time. If I sit in traffic, I lose my mind as it's always some idiot's fault they can't negotiate a lane change. Mileage instantly takes a dip.
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I do 80 miles a day just back and forth to work. ::gaah::
I do 90 and then I have to travel to different projects sometimes another 60 mins driving time. If I sit in traffic, I lose my mind as it's always some idiot's fault they can't negotiate a lane change. Mileage instantly takes a dip.
I only log about 76 roundtrip...if my normal quickest route is taken, can be about 40min in and 50min out...but since some pumpkinhead is always doing something stupid somewhere I make a lot of moves that probably bump that to 84-85...I can't stand sitting still, if I'm moving I'm happy. In the winter though those times push out quite a bit depending upon road conditions and stupidity level of my fellow commuters.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/brent-vigilantes-drag-gas-prices-near-3-month-high (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/brent-vigilantes-drag-gas-prices-near-3-month-high)
(now near three-month highs) which point to a rally-ending, economy-sapping $3.80 price within the next few weeks (unless oil prices are rapidly suppressed too).
They need to fix that refinery down in Michigan or y'all will be screaming bloody murder.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/brent-vigilantes-drag-gas-prices-near-3-month-high (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/brent-vigilantes-drag-gas-prices-near-3-month-high)
(now near three-month highs) which point to a rally-ending, economy-sapping $3.80 price within the next few weeks (unless oil prices are rapidly suppressed too).
They need to fix that refinery down in Michigan or y'all will be screaming bloody murder.
If they told us how decrepit these things are and admitted we are in dire need of new facilities the panic alone would kick off the great unravelling.
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Psst. Remember me? The subject that can never seem to drop to the 2nd page?
$3.359 Costco, $3.599 cartel.
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html (http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html)
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In the news report at the top of the hour they mentioned that retail prices had risen 9 cents in the last two weeks. Since we had dipped to around the 3.55.99 range I knew that we were bottoming out and refueled everything.
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SA Cartel... ::)
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$3.699 over lunch. Scamaday...SuperFraud...Scamoco $3.40's at Costco.
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Ur moniez belongz tu dem!
Pay and obey!
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3.69 in southern Colorado and it hasn't moved much up or down in many weeks.
It's the new normal and we are lucky to have it as low as it is because of the meddling of the admin to drive prices up.
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I only commute to work once a month. I usually manage to make up for it on my days off, though.
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Been going up, nearly got assualted up north filling up with premium...over $4.00...luckily I only needed 5 gallons.
Locally CostCo has regular at $3.51 & premium at $3.72, will see later today if those prices hold.
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According to my chart, despite the official SuperAmerica gouge mark remaining at $3.70, wholesale is down 10c.
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I paid $4.299 last night for Premium in SoCal (Huntington Beach).
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3.57 at sams last night.
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We have a gas war going on where I live. A new Speedway Station is almost complete and right across the street from a Kroger that sells gas. Today Kroger is running regular at 3.15.
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This is so retarded...
Egyptian bloodbath threatens crucial routes for oil and gas supplies (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/commodities/10251219/Commodities-Egyptian-bloodbath-threatens-crucial-routes-for-oil-and-gas-supplies.html)
Bullcrap!
The world does not ship via Clipper Ship anymore! 7% of oil is shipped through The Ditch, that's spit in a bucket, and alternate routes are not a deal-breaker. This is all hyped-up BS to shakedown a few more coins out of everyones pockets, period.
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A new Speedway Station is almost complete...
About the worst news one can have, this side of a family death. Speedway/SuperAmerica is entirely responsible for the weekly cycle of gouging, in market where they have control.
Other words, 25c price gouges every Thursday, ect. I've never hated any company with a passion more than them.
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Well, even with oil approaching $110/bbl on the expectation the Obama Regime will lead strikes on Syria I only paid $3.55 for premium at CostCo this morning!
::thumbsup::
Now, if we can only get rid of Obama and the rest of Team Amerika perhpas we'd see a rational energy policy and low stable prices...
Nah, where's the fun in that?!
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http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html (http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html)
Hang on. SA led recent gouge to $3.599 and up 10c at the wholesale level in just a couple days. Look for the gouge mark to hit $3.699, today perhaps.
SCoaMF's war is almost upon us. Time to start paying for it.
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3.57 yesterday went up .09 cents in 8 hours.
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$3.699 it is! If there's one thing price fixing frauds are, it's predictable.
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Kroger still selling gas at 3.20
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Pump some of that up here Don! ;D
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I paid $3.999 in SoCal last night, That is down from the last time I posted but up $.03 from last week.
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.20 overnight near me
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I forgot Costco would be closed on The Big Union holiday, so I had to go into enemy territory and fill up, yesterday.
When did Scamoco go to +40c on their premium?! Yikes, what a ripoff. Is SuperFraud also at +40, now? Scamiday?
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I dunno, I had the same issue and only had a SuperduperAmerika to hit ::cussing:: premium was $3.71.
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$3.71 certainly isn't +40. $3.699 for regular and $4.099 for premium. $3.899 for the crap Iowa passes off as the lowest quality gas available...89 octane gasohol.
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Although the official gouge mark in the TC is still $3.399, for those suckers that love their SuperAmerica, wholesale is now under $3, which means a lot of $3.099s are showing up. Could we hit $2.99 or will the fire at a Chicago refinery end the dropping?
Stay tuned.
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It's been fluctuating in SoCal from $3.799 to $4.099 for super over the last few weeks. I paid 43.899 last night. Remember all I buy is Super.
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$3.59 in Illinois yesterday, $3.25 in Indiana. Guess where I gassed up?
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Go Hoosiers, eh?
Paid 3.33 for premium at CostCo.
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3.24 for reg
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http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html (http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html)
I predict, you receive. Up about a dime in one day. The party's over.
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3.18 today
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$3.089, this morning. My cheapest in awhile.
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Hovering in the 2.90- 3.00 range.....We have a gas war right now between Kroger and Speedway.
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Looks like there's a gas war between Costco and Sam's Club in Maple Grove. $2.959.
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Interesting...
And this! - "Federal and state taxes at every step of the gasoline-making progress make the pain at the pump even worse. The US government already takes more than 60% of the divisible income from every barrel of oil produced… and another 50 cents per gallon at the pump."
::gaah::
Been barking in the wind over this and needless regulation for decades! Get rid of that and the subsidies could vanish as well!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-30/guest-post-us-1-oil-so-why-isn%E2%80%99t-gasoline-080-gallon (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-30/guest-post-us-1-oil-so-why-isn%E2%80%99t-gasoline-080-gallon)
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http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html (http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/TCGPtrends.html)
Hold on to your wallets. $2.799 gas is coming to an end, fast. My prediction for the Twin Cities SuperAmerica led Christmas gouge, $3.299.
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Barring refinery issues or crude disruption it would be gouging, the ObamaEconomy being what is it...there is no growth to drive demand.
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The next excuse will be; the northern area needs fuel oil to heat their homes so there is a shortage of gasoline production, so thereby the price 'has' to go up to meet the needs.
That comes from page 37 of the "How to gouge and screw the American Pupil" of the oil barons manual. ::pullhair::
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Looks like $3.099 is the official SuperAmerica declared gouge mark.
Merry Christmas, from Super America.
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http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=254861 (http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=254861)
At least one low information media outlet, got temporarily curious about this unique market.
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Saw it for $2.919 today in South Carolina. First time I've seen gas under $3 in I don't know how long.
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$3.23 here, up 20 cents today. Ice storm on the way, generator gas needed. Ours runs on natural gas.
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$3.40 here today.
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$2.96 In north Alabama today
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$3.23 here, up 20 cents today. Ice storm on the way, generator gas needed. Ours runs on natural gas.
Speedway and SuperAmerica are the same company. That's why Chicago plays the gouge game, every week also, just like the Twin Cities.
Wholesale up 30c now, in just a few days. I still say $3.299 will be the gouge mark, sometime today or tomorrow.
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$3.23 here, up 20 cents today. Ice storm on the way, generator gas needed. Ours runs on natural gas.
Speedway and SuperAmerica are the same company. That's why Chicago plays the gouge game, every week also, just like the Twin Cities.
Wholesale up 30c now, in just a few days. I still say $3.299 will be the gouge mark, sometime today or tomorrow.
Your date and price are off. It's $3.49 here now.
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No change here yet, but I know it will ------
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It jumped about $0.25 overnight.
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Chicago is usually +20 over Minnesota, because you guys apply the sales tax to gas.
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/ (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/)
Looks like $3.199 is gonna be the mark, here. Eh, I was off 10c.
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Chicago is usually +20 over Minnesota, because you guys apply the sales tax to gas.
And local, county and other taxes are added to the total cost per gallon, including the fed tax. Tax upon a tax.
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$2.749
Costco
12011 Technology Dr near E of Prairie Center Dr
Eden Prairie
Topless2012
4 hours ago
Hopefully, they're open this morning. A full 45c below the SuperAmericaSpeedway designated gouge mark. That would be a record.
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Yes!
Merry Christmas from Costco! ::thumbsup::
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$3.299 the gouge mark is, as of today.
Did a fun little experiment over the weekend. Went from the TC to Des Moines on crapohol, and did 27.4MPG. Filled up with pure unleaded, which mixed with my 1/5 tank of gasohol and did 30.4 to the Quad Cities. Filled up again coming home with pure unleaded and did over 31.
It really is a wretched winter blend of crapohol they mandate in Minnesota.
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$3.299 the gouge mark is, as of today.
Did a fun little experiment over the weekend. Went from the TC to Des Moines on crapohol, and did 27.4MPG. Filled up with pure unleaded, which mixed with my 1/5 tank of gasohol and did 30.4 to the Quad Cities. Filled up again coming home with pure unleaded and did over 31.
It really is a wretched winter blend of crapohol they mandate in Minnesota.
Yup. After the minimum federally mandated blending requirements...further meddling is just so...so...more agenda-driven that it already is!
::pullhair::
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Just can't figure out why people let the government do this sh*t to you. ::rockethrow::
How much BS is enough before the population is willing to just begin shooting at the politicians? I figure about 25 militants is way more than enough for the political asswipes to get the hint but nobody is willing to ante up.
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Because most people are too stupid to do what I did, as early as 1987. Keep an eye on gas mileage. I was a good patriotic Iowegian, who did the patriotic thing, and filled up with crapohol at my local FS station. I watched my gas mileage immediately go from 20 down to 15. I thought something was wrong with my car. After a few tank fulls, for whatever reason, I went to another station and put pure gas back in my car, and my gas mileage immediately returned to 20.
Face it. Most people in Obama's America are too stupid to notice such a thing.
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Because most people are too stupid to do what I did, as early as 1987. Keep an eye on gas mileage. I was a good patriotic Iowegian, who did the patriotic thing, and filled up with crapohol at my local FS station. I watched my gas mileage immediately go from 20 down to 15. I thought something was wrong with my car. After a few tank fulls, for whatever reason, I went to another station and put pure gas back in my car, and my gas mileage immediately returned to 20.
Face it. Most people in Obama's America are too stupid to notice such a thing.
Unfortunate for us all, you're spot on. If they would only learn to self terminate.... ::thinking::
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Yup, periodically been marking my mileage for decades.
Most people just take the manufacturers label as gospel and never think about it...but are convinced oil companies are the main culprit in prices...their share of the net profit is only like 8 cents...compared to a dollar plus all fed/state/local taxes are factored in...and they are completely ignorant of the regulatory mandates on refining and distribution. Nobody is a bigger gouger than government. Nobody!
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3.28 for premium at CostCo yesterday, it's come up a bit.
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$3.29 at Speedway this morning. I haven't checked Indiana prices though.
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I paid $3.899 for super at a United Oil in Hunting Beach Ca. last night
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Under $4 in Cal-e-four-nee-aay has to be about as good as it gets, eh?
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As usual the recent runnup in prices is not related to supply issues, merely psycholigical panic...which I am sure the PTBs are beyond exploiting...
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/06/23/aaa-iraq-civil-war-pushing-up-gas-prices-in-us/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/06/23/aaa-iraq-civil-war-pushing-up-gas-prices-in-us/)
Iraq my ass!
::mooning::
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$3.499 at Costco, $3.659 at the SuperAmerica/Speedway led cartel, here.
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Yup, periodically been marking my mileage for decades.
Most people just take the manufacturers label as gospel and never think about it...but are convinced oil companies are the main culprit in prices...their share of the net profit is only like 8 cents...compared to a dollar plus all fed/state/local taxes are factored in...and they are completely ignorant of the regulatory mandates on refining and distribution. Nobody is a bigger gouger than government. Nobody!
Oil companies make 6-15 cents profit on every gallon. Various Govts make over 50 cents. Who is gouging again?
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Yup, periodically been marking my mileage for decades.
Most people just take the manufacturers label as gospel and never think about it...but are convinced oil companies are the main culprit in prices...their share of the net profit is only like 8 cents...compared to a dollar plus all fed/state/local taxes are factored in...and they are completely ignorant of the regulatory mandates on refining and distribution. Nobody is a bigger gouger than government. Nobody!
Oil companies make 6-15 cents profit on every gallon. Various Govts make over 50 cents. Who is gouging again?
Gas? - Goobermints. Oil? - Their buddies on Wall St and the commodities markets profit from speculation driven largely by ginned up fears like Iraq, which all by itself is not a huge player in the oil market and for which the present chaos there is not affecting supplies out of the PG...they made thier play before the markets opened...and look forward to some sheep shearing...
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Currently afoot in Congress, a bi-partisan (meaning one Dem/one Rep) effort to raise Fed gas taxes and then peg it to inflation to avoid ever having to vote on it again. They're looking for a 12 cent increase over two years, raising the Fed tax from 18 to 30 cents per gallon, because .....
... the federal Highway Trust Fund, which pays for highway and transit projects, will encounter a shortfall before the end of the fiscal year.
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, want to raise federal gasoline and diesel taxes for the first time since 1993.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/gas-tax-increase-congress/2014/06/19/id/578116/ (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/gas-tax-increase-congress/2014/06/19/id/578116/)
Well, if they'd stop STEALING from the Highway "Trust Fund", there would be no "shortfall".
Every day, every damned day.
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Corker.....Another feather in the disappointment cap.
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Hey, you know how leftist whack jobs protesting the sensible slaughter of animals for food and clothing would toss blood on people as a protest vehicle...(I guess the smelly hippies would do that to returning vets too now that I think about it...)
I'm thinking the same thing but with gas...
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Hey, you know how leftist whack jobs protesting the sensible slaughter of animals for food and clothing would toss blood on people as a protest vehicle...(I guess the smelly hippies would do that to returning vets too now that I think about it...)
I'm thinking the same thing but with gas...
And an open flame nearby??
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Currently afoot in Congress, a bi-partisan (meaning one Dem/one Rep) effort to raise Fed gas taxes and then peg it to inflation to avoid ever having to vote on it again. They're looking for a 12 cent increase over two years, raising the Fed tax from 18 to 30 cents per gallon, because .....
... the federal Highway Trust Fund, which pays for highway and transit projects, will encounter a shortfall before the end of the fiscal year.
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, want to raise federal gasoline and diesel taxes for the first time since 1993.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/gas-tax-increase-congress/2014/06/19/id/578116/ (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/gas-tax-increase-congress/2014/06/19/id/578116/)
Well, if they'd stop STEALING from the Highway "Trust Fund", there would be no "shortfall".
Every day, every damned day.
This sort of horsesh*t will have to be addressed explicitly in the next republic, sort of like how our own Founders specifically addressed the things burned into their recent memory.
A law, a tax, whatever, cannot be allowed to take on a life of its own. These things should not be variable, because with something like this lo and behold the bureaucracy is no longer just the tax collector they're also rate setter (since they are the ones who define the rate of inflation, to which Congress has stupidly pegged the tax). It's just one more way for an unelected bureaucracy to manipulate things without accountability to anyone.
It's like that monstrosity of ObamaCare. The legislation is full of phrases like "the Secretary shall determine". The bureaucracy has been given far too much latitude, and in the first place it was never Congress's to hand out like party favors.
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Gas is up $.05/gallon since last week. I'm expecting much higher pricing due to BO's unexpected war in the Middle East.
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Hey, you know how leftist whack jobs protesting the sensible slaughter of animals for food and clothing would toss blood on people as a protest vehicle...(I guess the smelly hippies would do that to returning vets too now that I think about it...)
I'm thinking the same thing but with gas...
And an open flame nearby??
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/Explode-06-june.gif)
Oops! Sorry, didn't see your gas-soaked ass just standing there waiting for a spark...
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Gas is up $.05/gallon since last week. I'm expecting much higher pricing due to BO's unexpected war in the Middle East.
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Misc/presidentsinuniform.jpg)
Yeah, but whose side is he on? Sure as shyt ain't ours!!!
PS-I have to laugh at that progression above...it reminds me of the so-called "march of progress" the Darwinian's like that I have renamed "the march of the proglodytes" and reprint below:
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Misc/marchoftheproglodytes_zps5fc743d8.png)
I think that is Obama in the back!
::hysterical::
Yeah, O'Bongo will eff this Middle East up for permanent...
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And it really isn't my imagination...prices everywhere have crept up again...
http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx (http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx)
Punch in 90210 zipcode and look at those prices! ::exitstageleft::
Poor Californicators!
And crude has slipped back down to the 105's...but that won't translate into much of a drop, even when the slack releases from the lag...
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The first $2.799 has shown up in the Twin Cities. $2.909 at my local Costgo. That will no doubt drop as the trend is down down down
(http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/MSP_files/image001.png)
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Premium at 3.15 at my local CostCo...let's get that below 3.00, OK?! ::whoohoo::
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Speaking of Premium, I notice the spread at Costco is now over +30. It wasn't that long ago I drove a Premium car when I thought anything over +10 was a ripoff.
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And yet...they are still the best deal in town...
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regular last night was $2.92 near me
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Oil below $80 should keep gas prices about the same for a while, no growth out there to fuel anything, pun intended.
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Liking the cheaper prices on premium gas...sweet crude dipped to low $64's this AM, now rallied up a bit to $66.30.
The ZeroHedgers continue to push the meme gleefully that OPEC refusing to cut production is meant to beat the crap out of the US oil shale industry while pretending the drop in prices hasn't hurt Russia nearly as much, but as this report shows the Ruble continues to get hammered (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-01/oil-producing-nations-currency-carnage-continues-russia-intervening), and how can they then say the drop in oil prices is offset by devalued currency and is somehow miraculously mutually exclusive to them? It's not like this is a viable long term solution to Russian interests, it's not even a short term solution to Russian interests!
I swear, the whole world is nucking futs!!!
Meanwhile, cheaper gas - thanks. Oh, and keep natural gas below 4 if you can, it's colder than heck here!
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$2.259 and falling, at Costco last night. Almost to that magic level that that batcrap crazy Michele Bachmann said we could get back to, with increased production.
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I let my tank drop more than I usually do and had to hit whatever I could this morning, hit an Exxon and filled up with premium, even at this higher-priced store 92 octane was just $2.63, CostCo's is $2.51, that's as narrow a spread I've seen for premium in quite a while.
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Oil below $80 should keep gas prices about the same for a while, no growth out there to fuel anything, pun intended.
A punster friend of mine sent a group email of 10 puns out to 10 friends...hoping that at least one of the wordsmithed groaners would elicit a laugh; but alas...
...not one pun in ten did.
;D
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Oil below $80 should keep gas prices about the same for a while, no growth out there to fuel anything, pun intended.
A punster friend of mine sent a group email of 10 puns out to 10 friends...hoping that at least one of the wordsmithed groaners would elicit a laugh; but alas...
...not one pun in ten did.
;D
Lord knows, I love a groaner!
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Liking the cheaper prices on premium gas...sweet crude dipped to low $64's this AM, now rallied up a bit to $66.30.
The ZeroHedgers continue to push the meme gleefully that OPEC refusing to cut production is meant to beat the crap out of the US oil shale industry while pretending the drop in prices hasn't hurt Russia nearly as much, but as this report shows the Ruble continues to get hammered (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-01/oil-producing-nations-currency-carnage-continues-russia-intervening), and how can they then say the drop in oil prices is offset by devalued currency and is somehow miraculously mutually exclusive to them? It's not like this is a viable long term solution to Russian interests, it's not even a short term solution to Russian interests!
I swear, the whole world is nucking futs!!!
Meanwhile, cheaper gas - thanks. Oh, and keep natural gas below 4 if you can, it's colder than heck here!
A completely different take on the oil surplus in production.http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/oil-war-begun-will-eventually-lead-doom-mecca-worship-antichrist/ (http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/oil-war-begun-will-eventually-lead-doom-mecca-worship-antichrist/)
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Well, sure, the Saudis have always been willing to be playmates with whomever might give them the best advantage/leverage, they'll play that game for as long as they can...for as long as the oil lasts or as long as their rule lasts...the former has an expiration date, the latter is more murky. There are huge questions over their royal succession and what it means for Saudi policy. As long as they have their rule, as long as they have their oil and as long as they have Mecca they will be at the center of everything going on in the region. I think the easiest way to destabilize them is through infiltration of the royal household and a decapitation of their leading patriarchs, a gambit their primary foes in Tehran are no doubt looking at, albeit their approach may be heavy-handed and easier to uncover, but others may try the same idea, and somebody more sophisticated or perhaps with outside (cough, Russia!) help could achieve it. And as we saw with AQ the Saudis have plenty of enemies within, a byproduct of Wahabi extremism, and now ISIS poses the same threat. Anyway, whatever happens, if they all kill each other off and Israel remains safe it's all good to me.
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2.02
update
Costco
12547 Riverdale Blvd NW & Northdale Blvd
Coon Rapids
barbar123
1 hour ago
2.02
update
11660 Winnetka Ave N & 117th Ave N
Champlin
rothsteinkstaa
1 hour ago
2.02
update
Costco
11330 Fountains Dr near Elm Creek Blvd
Maple Grove
boozerbob
2 hours ago
I think I can I think I can.... ::thumbsup::
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CostCo Premium - 2.32. Fill me up please! ::cool::
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CostCo Premium - 2.32. Fill me up please! ::cool::
Nice prices. Here in southern PA, the price for regular is about 2.47 and the premium bonus charge of 50 cents on top of that.
We did however in the last ten years have increases in the state tax forcing the truckers to fill up in OH instead of PA so instead of making it more palatable our betters f**ked us regulars instead. If they wanted more revenue, why not just price it down and collect more at a lesser rate. Any of these assholes ever hear of the Laffer curve? f**k no, just continue off the cliff until nobody can afford the evil of hydrocarbon fuels.
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Trouble withe the curve. Heh.
Bloody pirates!
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$1.969 at my Costco. ::thumbsup::
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Yeah I got premium at 2.22. If the stuff stored worth a damn I'd hoard up. I miss leaded gasoline... :'(
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Paid 1.91 at same today. Premium was 2.11.
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Imagine where things would be if public lands were open to drilling. Ah, well...doesn't matter much...the price at the pump will force a cut back in production. Fracking is expensive and oil companies can't pay for it if they don't get a decent price at the pump. After production slows the price will climb right back up. Supply/demand.
But for now it's low and the low price is hurting the arabs and the russians so that's another good thing.
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$1.869 at my Costco, $1.769 is showing up in others.
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I hope it lasts most of the winter, my bank account is liking the relief.
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Any prices on home heating oil??
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Any prices on home heating oil??
On the Futures market it has been dropping lick a rock...
(http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=HO&cot=022651&p=d1&rev=635562986398150585)
...and the lag in retail price will depend where on the LIFO line their distributors inventory is at. It should be down too but not at this same extent. (Unit of Measure should be 42k gal per contract)
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Republican introduces new gas tax
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/01/12/as-gas-prices-fall-higher-federal-gas-tax-proposed/21128678/ (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/01/12/as-gas-prices-fall-higher-federal-gas-tax-proposed/21128678/)
because , you know, they are different form the Democrats somehow.
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Put a cork in Corker! ::asskicking::
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Ann Barnhardt asserts that Citbank is using derivatives to funnel money to the Saudi's (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/01/09/how-could-trillions-of-dollars-be-laundered-from-the-wash-dc-regime-to-saudi-arabia-why-through-citigroup-of-course/)
of course in order to facilitate the economic attack on Russia.
It must be great to have banks as fully paid for cronies of the Federal government.
Obama is not a socialist
Obama is a fascist
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Ann Barnhardt asserts that Citbank is using derivatives to funnel money to the Saudi's (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/01/09/how-could-trillions-of-dollars-be-laundered-from-the-wash-dc-regime-to-saudi-arabia-why-through-citigroup-of-course/)
of course in order to facilitate the economic attack on Russia.
It must be great to have banks as fully paid for cronies of the Federal government.
Obama is not a socialist
Obama is a fascist
Yup.
And they've always been cozy with Muzzies...
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Just got through this over on her board and yes it was jaw dropping but believable.
To see this govt fail would be a blessing to everyone!
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$1.819 at my Costco. Even Premium is under $2.10, now.
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Yeah, I'm lovin' it.
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Who's really eating it right now are the airlines and industrial customers who locked in at the previously higher prices. I'm certainly enjoying it at the pump, though I do think a lot of it is due to the Saudis trying to kill the domestic fracking business.
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I don't ascribe an inordinate amount of scrupples to the Saud's...outside of base selfishness any other reasons are second tier at best.
While low prices will cap fracking activity, the temporary layoffs are the only immediate result, long term what did the Saud's get if this was their goal? Do they think capped wells cannot be uncapped when prices start to rise again? Do they think everyone will be bankrupt and nobody will be patient? At some point their reserves deplete, and by continuing the glut they are hastening that day, what's their end game? And this hurts Russia more than the US, a larger segment of their economy thrives on the oil and gas industry, the US consumes more, but if the Saud's are willing to pump we are willing to buy, and when that stops we uncap the wells and frack away. The Saud's are sacrificing reserves today for market share tomorrow...but at some point demand will return (either by real economic growth or by the demands of war) and this exercise will be over.
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One of the highest spreads (percentage wise) between Sam's Club/Costco and the cartel of SuperAmericaHolidayBP I've ever see. SC/C remains in $1.65 to $1.80 range and the cartel just coordinated a price fixing gouge back to $2.099.
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Yeah, but remember, the political class/ruling class/red-blue-purple teams made it easy to gouge up the sheeple and illegal to undercut the crooks! Until they are dealt with this joke will go on.
What is hilarious are the OWS/Ferguson types continue to live in areas where they are gouged...and their tantrums are hardest on their neighbors!
For everyone else, there are options!
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It's even dropped below $2 in Crook County (Chicago) Illinois even. Thought that price would never make it there. With all the taxes loaded on top of the fed gas tax in Cook and Illinois, I figured the tax would never allow it to drop below 2 bucks.
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It hasn't reached the magical bottom then yet, and for each state the level will be different. Retail margins have to be getting darn tight though. It will be interesting to see if a point is reached where retailers stop selling and politico's are forced to do something (almostly certainly bad) to appease screaming masses demanding a necessary good. Places like Chitcago could be among the first to experience this if prices fall further, but I doubt they will fall enough to find out...barring a worldwide economic collapse that is...
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Illinois, as our drunken governor in Minnesota just proposed, applies the sales tax to gas. That's why Illinois is always higher than surrounding states. That's pretty massive tax.
Still $1.80 at my Costco, compared to the price fixed, cartel price of $2.10.
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Illinois, as our drunken governor in Minnesota just proposed, applies the sales tax to gas. That's why Illinois is always higher than surrounding states. That's pretty massive tax.
Still $1.80 at my Costco, compared to the price fixed, cartel price of $2.10.
IL not alone, not are they the highest, though I bet Chitcago area skews it up as much as they can.
What do most of these high-taxed states have in common?
http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes/gasoline-tax (http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes/gasoline-tax)
If you guessed Democrats, you win a cookie!
PS-The API info is in agreement with the Wiki info, so to DemoCraps lurking out there the info is NOT biased!
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In my area as of yesterday - regular $1.89 diesel $2.99 [even though regular as gone down 1-2 cents daily, diesel as stayed the same for over a week] -- this old fart can't remember when the last time it was below $2.00
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Diesel is subject to seasonal demands - more expensive in winter (heating demand), where regular gas is more expensive in summer (temperature issues/summer demand) and diesel has more expensive environmental costs for clean burning. Plus, diesel is more demand sensitive since it is not nearly as widely used as regular gas. The commercial demand can increase with economic activity or increases in demand for commercial use, as well as noncommercial demand can affect its price, so it moves very little. And refinery capacity is more oriented towards gasoline as well as servicing other types of fuels. People cannot think about diesel prices the same way as regular gas, but Jack & Jill Public is largely ignorant of these facts and just thinks it is big oil gouging on diesel because they can't gouge as much on gas.
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I haven't seen any action on this thread so I thought I'd crank it back up again.
10 days ago I bought a tankful of gas for 1.83/gal. 4 days ago I stopped by and it was 1.99/gal. Today I fueled up for 2.19/gal.
Easy come/easy go...
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I haven't seen any action on this thread so I thought I'd crank it back up again.
10 days ago I bought a tankful of gas for 1.83/gal. 4 days ago I stopped by and it was 1.99/gal. Today I fueled up for 2.19/gal.
Easy come/easy go...
You can thank nationwide refinery strikes for the price increases. Thanks again unions!
One of my brother's friends is "locked in" (he is management at BP) at the local refinery during the strike. Even if your not a member of any union, its not a good idea to cross the "picket" line. So your stuck inside the plant for several shifts.
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Labor in this land (not just this industry, but in several key industries) got all out of whack decades ago. Progs made it worse with prevailing wage BS and all manner of union-sheltering non-union-punishing stupidity...all a clear indication that we are in the final stages of this chicanery.
I bought gas at an Exxon this am, damn machine wouldn't give me a receipt! I think I paid in the $2.80's for premium, still not bad, if not for Fedcoat muckery and unionista racketeering it could be a lot less.
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I think $1.809 was as low as I got, at Costgo. $2.099, now.
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Supreme in So Cal 2 weeks ago - $2.599/gal
Supreme in So Cal yesterday - $3.099/gal
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I'm sure Jerry Brown will help things move in the right direction....
::unknowncomic::
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2.49.9 today !!
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$2.099 for me, although the gouge mark for the price fixing cartel is now at $2.299.
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Yeah, twenty cent spread sounds just about right... ::)
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Prices continue to creep up, no doubt not helped by this asshattery...
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/union-chief-leo-gerald-says-u-s-refinery-strike-could-spread/ (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/union-chief-leo-gerald-says-u-s-refinery-strike-could-spread/)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/24/us-refineries-labor-strike-idUSKBN0LS20V20150224 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/24/us-refineries-labor-strike-idUSKBN0LS20V20150224)
(sigh)
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Costco $2.119 vs. the price fixed gouge mark of $2.349.
I can't blame the refinery workers. It's a skilled position and they know they're not easily replaced. If society doesn't like it, society should start producing more skilled labor and fewer retards with Poli Sci degrees.
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I can blame them a little...but for certain the biggest culprit here is the Federal government...their mandates and their refusal to authorize new construction have helped erode the condition of our infrastructure...where I will cut the workers some slack is having to work in an increasingly dangerous environment...but I wonder if they know who is primarily responsible for that?
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(http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=RB&cot=111659&p=d1&rev=635676199815265476)
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?p=d1&t=RB (http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?p=d1&t=RB)
Slight run up, since April it looks to be seasonal demand since the glut is still full on. And the glut is what is should keep the summer runnup less severe.
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Every year prices spike from, roughly, mid-March through Memorial Day.
That's when refineries have to switch from "winter gas (9.0 RVP)" to "summer gas (7.8 RVP)"
Inventories of 9.0 are run real low and it takes a bit to rebuild them back up; typically mid-June.
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Yup, and all the government-mandated BS that goes with it...
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About $2.40 at Costgo, $2.659 at the price fixing cartel.
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Premium 14-15 cents higher. And now I have to buy that for small engines too, this cheap-ass ethonol-laced bullstuff is gumming things up! ::pullhair::
They must have upped the content in regular! ::cussing:: bungholes!
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Yup, and all the government-mandated BS that goes with it...
Several years ago, there was something like 9 different blends sold across the country.
Uniformity of blends would lower costs.
And, IMHO, RVP is more baloney foisted on us.
For example, I live in Armstrong County, Pa. which is a rural, relatively populated area.
Because we have the good fortune of about one mile of our boundary that touches Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) we are designated as an attainment area and required to use 7.8 RVP gas which is higher.
Several of the surrounding counties aren't required to have this so they are able to sell 9.0 RVP gas which, for most of the summer driving season, is $.09-$.09/gallon cheaper.
Dealers that live near the borders get killed by the competition.
I don't want to start on ethanol.
I could rant for hours
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Premium 14-15 cents higher. And now I have to buy that for small engines too, this cheap-ass ethonol-laced bullstuff is gumming things up! ::pullhair::
They must have upped the content in regular! ::cussing:: bungholes!
You too huh? I have had to clean every damn carburetor I have tried to use this year before I can get anything to start.
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Premium 14-15 cents higher. And now I have to buy that for small engines too, this cheap-ass ethonol-laced bullstuff is gumming things up! ::pullhair::
They must have upped the content in regular! ::cussing:: bungholes!
You too huh? I have had to clean every damn carburetor I have tried to use this year before I can get anything to start.
The riding lawnmower at the lake bogged down and died. All gummed up by that cheap rotten crap! I had to mow the whole back lot (not enormous by any means, but still...) with the little self-propelled. I think the only reason that one ran was because it has oil mixed in, and that must be enough to keep it from getting too gummy.
I wanna pour that crap down a bureaucrats throat!
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Here is a link to stations that carry ethanol-free gas. Click on your state and hope for one near you.
http://pure-gas.org/?stateprov=WI (http://pure-gas.org/?stateprov=WI)
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I was able to put some Gumout in the rider and got it going today. ::beertoast::
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In all my older equipment (which I have a lot of) I use a product called "Seafoam"
Try it.
You'll like it
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l use Seafoam as a general treatment all the time, it goes way back...it was a lot more fun in the old days before computers and EFI when I could trickle Seafoam into the carb and then tool around "crop dusting" the neighborhood!
::hysterical::
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I was able to put some Gumout in the rider and got it going today. ::beertoast::
I put a few drops in the gas can as soon as I get it home and use it as a maintenance/preventative.
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(http://www.tc.umn.edu/~inman009/html/MSP_files/image001.png)
Despite collapsing oil prices. Blame refinery problems in Indiana.
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I don't entirely discount the refinery problems, since the Fedcoats heavily regulate this industry and make it virtually impossible for anybody to build new refineries...and limping along on repairs is not a long-term solution, one day the suckers will break catastrophically and then we'll be well and truly hosed...but there is some gaming going on with finished products...some of the issues are easily engineered delays in deliveries...probably not nefarious at origination but appear that way when folks are trying to manage their regions demands. Plus, cannot rule out the occasional special diversions for side donations.
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Another SuperFraud Cartel led gouge to $2.859, even as you can see by the blue line, wholesale has dropped back 15c.
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Yeah, I was forced into a cartel the past weekend, sucked, for cheapo gas they are $0.20 over a lot of others. Good thing I only put in just enough to get going.
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You wouldn't know it, by the $2.849 gouge attempt, but wholesale is right back down where it was before the Indiana outage.
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2.36 at local Sams I hate that place. Costco is supposed to be building down here and if it's close enough I will drop sams like a bad habit.
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The refineries are at near maximum capacity right now...soon they will cut way back for needed maintenance before getting ready for the winter blend, so there could be more upward pressure in gas prices around the corner.
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$1.899 at my local Costco. ::thumbsup::
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$1.899 at my local Costco. ::thumbsup::
I hate to say it but vox actually has a decent and fairly well balanced write up on Why
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/16/7401705/oil-prices-falling (http://www.vox.com/2014/12/16/7401705/oil-prices-falling)
They mention the relevant facts, but its up to you to connect the dots. Why did OPEC let prices drop? 1) to kill the US Shale Oil Boom 2) to establish themselves at the bargaining table with Russia and to a lesser extent China, and also send a clear message to the United States that the petrodollar might no longer be a thing. 4) it kicks the can economically - lowering the input costs of nearly everything, inflation will take a bit longer to catch up to us, while it will probably boot production in the "developing" nations.
Or at least that is my take. Oil prices will probably continue to fall for the moment, because that is the policy that will advance a number of largely unrelated agendas around the world. Its is probably not a sign that things are getting better.
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I find it odd that nobody seems to mention how hard this has hit Russia...how much it impacts their oil-driven economy.
But it is good for everyone's war machine, so bullish for war.
As for non-OPEC producers though, this impact can only be temporary...wells can be capped and jobs re-hired. Unless OPEC is willing to push the glut until their reserves run dry it has to end sometime...and seeing them flounder in the desert to die when the black gold runs out isn't exactly a disincentive to dare them to keep it up, is it?
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Well the result is Russia is now actively involved in Syria , so I suspect someone played their cards right.
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$1.899 at my local Costco. ::thumbsup::
It actually broke under $2.00/gal for about a week before it started creeping back up. We're back to around $2.25/gal again.
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Here it hit $1.869 today. Make that $1.859, another $0.01 before dinner.
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Even dropped below 2 bucks in the Chicago area. Helps we don't have summer blend* at this time of the year.
*another joy of living near Chicago, gas that is more expensive for the environoment or something.........
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Even dropped below 2 bucks in the Chicago area. Helps we don't have summer blend* at this time of the year.
*another joy of living near Chicago, gas that is more expensive for the environoment or something.........
Speedway must not have decreed it time for the coordinated, Thanksgiving gouge.
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How about the great Black Monday Progtard Surtax?!
http://iotwreport.com/epa-admits-new-biofuel-standard-will-be-costly/ (http://iotwreport.com/epa-admits-new-biofuel-standard-will-be-costly/)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ethanol-rules-no-benefits-costs-up-to-600m/article/2576868?utm_content=buffer9ec27&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ethanol-rules-no-benefits-costs-up-to-600m/article/2576868?utm_content=buffer9ec27&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Get ready to sue the MF shat out of the EPA Fascist bastards when your vehicle is destroyed by this fargin chit!
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1.75- 1.79 in Tennessee.
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They're going to force a 15% mixture on us. A mixture most cars can't handle.
Political Science. Because these retards really can formulate gas better than a Chemical Engineer.
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This could just piss off the right number of people and kick a general rebellion into high gear.
::popcorn::
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Ethanol bad juju for engines. One chainsaw is in the shop; Gunsmith got the other working with E-free gas in it. I worry about our truck engines.
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Haven't seen it today yet, but yesterday $1.67 here in north Alabama.
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e15 would kill the marine industry.
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Ethanol bad juju for engines. One chainsaw is in the shop; Gunsmith got the other working with E-free gas in it. I worry about our truck engines.
Later model trucks are not problem. But you better make sure you have the correct E-15 gas lines on the ol' 55.
How it coming, anyway?
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Down to $1.65 today
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Ethanol bad juju for engines. One chainsaw is in the shop; Gunsmith got the other working with E-free gas in it. I worry about our truck engines.
Later model trucks are not problem. But you better make sure you have the correct E-15 gas lines on the ol' 55.
How it coming, anyway?
It's done. We've been so busy this year, we haven't even taken it out for a drive. We'll be putting the E-free gas in it as well.
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Ethanol bad juju for engines. One chainsaw is in the shop; Gunsmith got the other working with E-free gas in it. I worry about our truck engines.
Later model trucks are not problem. But you better make sure you have the correct E-15 gas lines on the ol' 55.
How it coming, anyway?
It's done. We've been so busy this year, we haven't even taken it out for a drive. We'll be putting the E-free gas in it as well.
Do you also have to do the lead additive?
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Ethanol bad juju for engines. One chainsaw is in the shop; Gunsmith got the other working with E-free gas in it. I worry about our truck engines.
Later model trucks are not problem. But you better make sure you have the correct E-15 gas lines on the ol' 55.
How it coming, anyway?
It's done. We've been so busy this year, we haven't even taken it out for a drive. We'll be putting the E-free gas in it as well.
Well, then, we need an update for the only true hot rod enthusiast on the site. ::whoohoo::
(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M062ca9247690b6a409b29e8906110147o2&pid=15.1)
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-14/oil-falls-below-35-in-new-york-for-first-time-since-2009 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-14/oil-falls-below-35-in-new-york-for-first-time-since-2009)
And the OPEC glut continues...
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Filled up for less than $20, for the first time in a long time.
Good for me, bad for the American industry. Saudi Arabia will squeeze our balls, the first chance they get after bankrupting the American industry.
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Trump seems to be wanting to kick some Saudi balls first chance he gets...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-13/donald-responds-dopey-daddys-boy-saudi-princes-slur (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-13/donald-responds-dopey-daddys-boy-saudi-princes-slur)
Hilarious, a ponce of prince lecturing what a proper Pubbie and American should be!
::hysterical::
Kinda makes you wonder though how many armchair tough guys in Congress take the money and don't care what happens to industry or American jobs here...
Probably way more than people think or want to admit.
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Prices have been inching back up round here (nw indiana). Closing in on going above $2 again, over $2 in Chicago. Actually got down to 1.68ish for a few days.
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Tis the season to give, eh?
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Tis the season for SuperAmerica/Speedway to declare a gouge, back to $1.999.
Costcos are still between $1.729 and $1.799.
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Tis the season for SuperAmerica/Speedway to declare a gouge, back to $1.999.
Costcos are still between $1.729 and $1.799.
Are you still sticking with CostCo when they switch from AMEX to Crapitol Wun VISA? I got a letter from Sam's Club inviting me to switch my card to them, they are not as close to me as CostCo, but a couple are on the way home if I take alternate routes...I'm half tempted to give Sam's a shot...I really don't like Crapitol Wun.
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No, because I'm bugging out anytime from April on, which is when my membership becomes due. I'll wait until I get overseas before renewing, as Costco only costs $15 per year in Taiwan.
I DID take American Express up on their offer for a new, non Costco card, as it comes with decent rewards and no annual fee. I'll make that my main card, now, and use my Amazon Visa as my second. You could use any VISA at Costco.
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Ahh, right. I forgot about your retirement location/timing.
I had an AMEX before the CostCo one, I really don't need two.
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One of the largest maintained spreads, percentage wise, between the Costcos and the Cartel of SuperFraud/BP I've ever witnessed.
$1.60s and $1.70s for Costco/Sams, and the cartel keeps trying to price fix at $1.999.
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Sans desperate need or nowhere else to go for subsidized E85...the vast majority still pulling into the cartel oasis must be Obama-voters.
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Just filled up today. Prices here;
$1.61 - Raceway WalMart
$1.67 - Shell BP Exon
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Sticking with WalMart products...your WalMart gas is just 55.5% the cost of a gallon of low fat milk!
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Sticking with WalMart products...your WalMart gas is just 55.5% the cost of a gallon of low fat milk!
Isn't that the truth. Gas from both 'Wally World and Raceway' don't seem to give the same performance or mileage as the other choices I mentioned [only other brands in this area].
As a footnote; seems strange to me that those companies I listed - ALL seem to price together [within the hour] yet they don't get refueled as often as the prices change. [Example -I go by 4 of them going to work, yesterday on the way to work price at Raceway was $1.63, on the way back home [ 5 hours later] $1.61, and the three others changed down $.01. Yet while prices for the same brands in towns right next to this one have different prices - some a little lower and some a little higher, and they all claim prices are dictated by the 'company'. Could it be greed or price fixing? Nah -it's old fart syndrome ::oldman:: - they wouldn't do something like that, now would they !
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Sticking with WalMart products...your WalMart gas is just 55.5% the cost of a gallon of low fat milk!
Isn't that the truth. Gas from both 'Wally World and Raceway' don't seem to give the same performance or mileage as the other choices I mentioned [only other brands in this area].
As a footnote; seems strange to me that those companies I listed - ALL seem to price together [within the hour] yet they don't get refueled as often as the prices change. [Example -I go by 4 of them going to work, yesterday on the way to work price at Raceway was $1.63, on the way back home [ 5 hours later] $1.61, and the three others changed down $.01. Yet while prices for the same brands in towns right next to this one have different prices - some a little lower and some a little higher, and they all claim prices are dictated by the 'company'. Could it be greed or price fixing? Nah -it's old fart syndrome ::oldman:: - they wouldn't do something like that, now would they !
Typically retailers price inventory based upon LIFO, but existing stocks still have a value...the inventory pool is elastic...so if prices in the crude market rise quickly the retail price will appear to jump quickly and if crude drops slowly then the retail price drops so slowly it's as if it isn't moving at all. Where people are at in their inventory mix and the rate of draw and fill factor into it as well. If prices are rising I want to pack as much in as fast as I can...when it is dropping there is no rush as long as I meet the demand flow. If nearby retailers are relatively close in managing their inventory and share nearly the same draw and fill rate having the same price is possible, but unlikely. Most do not want to be too out of synch with their neighbors and the way the stupid laws are preventing undercutting...there is a certain amount of play allowed to happen with the retail price...what the public sees as gouging. The real gouging is further up the chain (the exception being larger corporate owned entities that get a cut along each stage of the distribution process, not just at the retail level - what we've been calling "the cartel")...especially with the government getting its cut right off the top as well as all the regulatory burdens that have a cost to them. Oil companies make about 8% margin...retailers lucky to get half that rate...but make up for it with all the other high-priced "convenience" stuff they sell to impulse-ready customers.
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What is LIFO?
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Last in First Out
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Last In First Out, Pan.
Gas from both 'Wally World and Raceway' don't seem to give the same performance or mileage as the other choices I mentioned
All gas has to meet a minimum standard for quality, detergency and some other stuff to be allowed in the pipelines.
There are some differences in additive packages by brand but, I think some of the difference may be in your head, Rusty.
::whatgives::
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Duh. Should have been able to figger that out. T'anks, guys.
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Last In First Out, Pan.
Gas from both 'Wally World and Raceway' don't seem to give the same performance or mileage as the other choices I mentioned
All gas has to meet a minimum standard for quality, detergency and some other stuff to be allowed in the pipelines.
There are some differences in additive packages by brand but, I think some of the difference may be in your head, Rusty.
::whatgives::
It might be down to differences in the ethanol content. Ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline, so the engine burns more of it to achieve the same power output. Maybe in Rusty's case the cheap station is running the maximum 10% ethanol and the other stations have less?
Does fuel in the pipeline already contain ethanol, or do they blend that in at the terminals?
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I think that gets added at the regional distribution points. Each state can vary in the ethanol content, I know in Minnesota it was increased a bit in the regular 87 unleaded blend. Most people are probably not aware that crap is in stuff other than E85!
::pullhair::
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I think that gets added at the regional distribution points. Each state can vary in the ethanol content, I know in Minnesota it was increased a bit in the regular 87 unleaded blend. Most people are probably not aware that crap is in stuff other than E85!
::pullhair::
If that's true as you say and I haven't any doubt, it's solely because they have their heads stuck up their butts.
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$1.50s showing up, now, at Costcos. Which means the SuperAmerica led gouge should be about $1.899, in which millions of suckers will line up and pay.
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It hasn't been this low in ages it seems...
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On the way in this morning - Raceway $1.51 --- Coming home from work $1.49
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Living in wrong place - near where I used to have a cabin, there is a gas war going on .
Price war: Gas prices fall to 47 cents near Houghton Lake ...
wlns.com/.../michigan-gas-prices-fall-13-cents-in-past-week-t...
WLNS?TV
1 day ago - (WLNS) – A price war dropped the price of gas at a Houghton Lake station to $.47 per ... M-Dot looking for road watchers in West Michigan.
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My gas-guzzling V8 would love that.
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Last night on way home - Raceway and WalMart $1.46 / BP and Exxon down to $1.47 / Shell still $1.49
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Last week: $2.21. This morning: $1.99
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It's been hanging at $2.09 for a few weeks here.
Of course, @ $.080/gallon in state and federal taxes puts quite a high floor under it
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$1.57 in my little town.
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1.79 here
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I saw $1.59 just a few minutes ago. When I bought my trusty Ford Excursion in 2003, gas was $1.51.
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I've seen $1.68 at Scam's Club yesterday and that was in one of the more expensive areas around Baltimore metro
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For the first time since I drove a spec, the counter on the gas pump failed to reach $20, from essentially empty. $19.93 to be exact.
$1.559 at Costco.
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As $1.40s start showing up in the Twin Cities, SuperFraud declares a gouge mark of $1.799.
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I paid 1.40 at Sams today. It was weird.....I'm watching the pump move ever so slow, thinking i'll never fill up this will take forever. I time warped to the days it took 70 bucks to fill me truck. $23.00...filled up...left.
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Dang, I thought I would be low man today, paid $1.50 at CostCo, then I see Don't $1.40!
Y'all got lower taxes there and are closer to a distribution hub I reckon.
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I paid 1.40 at Sams today. It was weird.....I'm watching the pump move ever so slow, thinking i'll never fill up this will take forever. I time warped to the days it took 70 bucks to fill me truck. $23.00...filled up...left.
Paid 1.88 at Sam's down here. WTF
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I paid 1.40 at Sams today. It was weird.....I'm watching the pump move ever so slow, thinking i'll never fill up this will take forever. I time warped to the days it took 70 bucks to fill me truck. $23.00...filled up...left.
Paid 1.88 at Sam's down here. WTF
Must be an additional geezer tax. ::rolllaughing::
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I paid 1.40 at Sams today. It was weird.....I'm watching the pump move ever so slow, thinking i'll never fill up this will take forever. I time warped to the days it took 70 bucks to fill me truck. $23.00...filled up...left.
Paid 1.88 at Sam's down here. WTF
I normally don't buy at Sam's. It's a little higher everywhere else.
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Yesterday I topped off after getting groceries...not near a Costco and was running low...hit a local joint...paid $1.35...got over 13 gallons and didn't even break $19. Can't remember what year it was when it has been this low.
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I was noticing the cartel was all at $1.599 and I thought, boy, the cartel must be giving the suckers a break.
Then I went to Costco and paid $1.359.
Just looked and a Clark in Blaine is $1.299.
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Wholesale gas around here, before taxes is in the low $.90s at the rack.
Add Pa taxes and freight and it's roughly $1.75 delivered to stations.
Retail has been holding at $1.99 allowing them to keep some margin
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And just like that the cartel has jacked the gouge mark back up to $1.999. They've been running a solid 30 to 40 cents higher than Costco/Sams. The highest sustained spread, absolute or especially percentage, I've ever seen.
Yet in my 27 years, here, I've never seen the government be the least interested in the open, obvious price fixing that is the Twin Cities gas market.
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And just like that the cartel has jacked the gouge mark back up to $1.999. They've been running a solid 30 to 40 cents higher than Costco/Sams. The highest sustained spread, absolute or especially percentage, I've ever seen.
Yet in my 27 years, here, I've never seen the government be the least interested in the open, obvious price fixing that is the Twin Cities gas market.
Hard to believe that anyone has prices higher than mine! Gas here jumped a dime (to $179.9) in the last 10 days.
I have a van that was my dads. I use it to haul band equipment. It is equipped with 2 30-gal tanks (460cu is a hungry beast!). I usually run the whole season (of our bluegrass show) and then fill the tanks for the next season. Looks like I need to top them off now rather than later.
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As long as the tax revenue flows the gubmint goons'll never give a damn.
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Been holding at $1.41 at the wally world and raceway - Shell and the rest at $1.43.
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So far you are the low man Rusty.
Though by Memorial Day I suspect we'll all be forking over more...
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$1.639 here about 50 miles north of Detroit.
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Wonder if it is cheaper on the other side of Lake St Clair?
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If you mean on the east side, doubtful. Somewhere in the $4 range.
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Socialist taxes piled up on top of other socialist taxes...figures...
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http://www.ontariogasprices.com/Windsor/index.aspx (http://www.ontariogasprices.com/Windsor/index.aspx)
Let's see. 72.7 cents per liter is common...times 3.785, carry the one...time 1.34 (yikes their dollar had fallen)...
$3.69 a gallon. Yep, pretty close to $4.
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Up to $1.89 in my neck of the woods. That's a 30¢ jump in about 2 weeks.
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And inventories are overflowing, OPEC is still pumping, and we are still on winter blend and no refinery or distribution issues (reported, anyway)...
What's left?
Yeah...chicanery...mostly of the market-manipulation variety.
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Holy hells half acre, or just plane DAMN... Wife has been shopping for some of our food at Winn Dixie and got a charge card from them for reduced gas depending on how much business is done with them. A month ago we got gas and saved $.25 per gallon. Gotr gas twice since then, and just filled up again using the card and saved $.15 per gallon this time. Cost for fill up from just under 1/4 tank, was $15.53. She doesn't buy everything there so it does take awhile to earn enough, but it does add up.
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We're up to around 1.59. There are pockets of competition where gas is a little cheaper.
Short story: One of my buddies bought a Leaf. I ragged him unmercifully and after around 3 months of charging he realized what a mistake he made but he couldn't get rid of the thing. Came to my business happy as can be a few weeks back and he had parked it in front of his house and a drunk totaled it. Couldn't have been happier. Bought a Sentra.
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::hysterical::
Wow, must be a lot of drunks going down that road to hit the jackpot so fast!
::laughonfloor::
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We're up 40¢ over about the past 3 weeks or so.
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Up about 20 cents around these parts in last few weeks.
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I don't know what's going up faster...gas prices or the temp...it's a real horse race...
I'll be fishing from a boat soon, and we're still in early March!
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Back up to over $20 to fill up my car, at $1.809 for Costco gas. $2.099 at the cartel.
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Glut or no glut...climate change (Spring) is upon us...warmer temps means exploitation...
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Yea.....if you watch the barrel cost of oil, in relation to the cost of gas today, you can tell it's spring.
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Thursday coming home from work gas went from $1.41 a gallon to $1.51 at Raceway - Friday morning going to work - same station was up to $1.59. All other stations had the same amount of increase - $.18 cents in one day ---- was still same last night. Tell me there is no collusion.
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Your still coming out better than most of us Rusty...
I expect they'll be another dip, followed by the blend switchover and Memorial Day runup...
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Your still coming out better than most of us Rusty...
Don't know about that now - $.18 cents in two days - Lowest here is now $1.59 - up to $1.75 as of yesterday. Almost don't want to see this morning on the way to work ....
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Your still coming out better than most of us Rusty...
Don't know about that now - $.18 cents in two days - Lowest here is now $1.59 - up to $1.75 as of yesterday. Almost don't want to see this morning on the way to work ....
Most everything in Minnie is $2 and up...
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Here in Tennessee we are pushing the 1.80 mark.
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$1.89 in NC.
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It's a buck ninety five in my neck of the woods. I did, however, secure a $1 discount on my 35 gallon fill up.
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We are trying to catch up -- another $.10 cents yesterday - a $.28 cents raise total so far. $1.69 and rising at the cheap station -- must be they see a shortage for the summer and are planning ahead ... I know greed wouldn't have anything to do about it.
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Hey, Rusty, do you remember $0.19 gas at the Oak stations in the north suburbs in the mid-1960's?
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Hey, Rusty, do you remember $0.19 gas at the Oak stations in the north suburbs in the mid-1960's?
Sure do - south bound Woodward just north of 11 Mile, also across the road was a Sinclair, that my dad looked at to buy - glad he didn't because it went out of business a couple years later.
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Hey, Rusty, do you remember $0.19 gas at the Oak stations in the north suburbs in the mid-1960's?
Sure do - south bound Woodward just north of 11 Mile, also across the road was a Sinclair, that my dad looked at to buy - glad he didn't because it went out of business a couple years later.
It's good having you two here...makes me feel young, I only recall $0.25 gas with any clarity. :D
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I'm happy to contribute to your happiness, Libertas. ::newyear::
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And just like that the cartel has jacked the gouge mark back up to $1.999. They've been running a solid 30 to 40 cents higher than Costco/Sams. The highest sustained spread, absolute or especially percentage, I've ever seen.
Yet in my 27 years, here, I've never seen the government be the least interested in the open, obvious price fixing that is the Twin Cities gas market.
Hard to believe that anyone has prices higher than mine! Gas here jumped a dime (to $179.9) in the last 10 days.
I have a van that was my dads. I use it to haul band equipment. It is equipped with 2 30-gal tanks (460cu is a hungry beast!). I usually run the whole season (of our bluegrass show) and then fill the tanks for the next season. Looks like I need to top them off now rather than later.
Got the van fueled @ 1.89 ;'}
Stopped to fill my Durango this morning - 2.09
Back to $40 to fill the tank.
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I'm happy to contribute to your happiness, Libertas. ::newyear::
I'm also glad to help make you happy Libertas - but later in life just remember 'getting old is not for whimps'. It doesn't take practice; just time, and yours will come ---- ::oldman:: ::hat-tip::
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I'm happy to contribute to your happiness, Libertas. ::newyear::
I'm also glad to help make you happy Libertas - but later in life just remember 'getting old is not for whimps'. It doesn't take practice; just time, and yours will come ---- ::oldman:: ::hat-tip::
There are a number of ways I can foresee where I get an exemption, some better than others, but time will tell.
If it is with my boots on surrounded by piles of brass I'll consider myself fortunate.
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Just like the owner of the hand going up his backside...JoeFraud economy makes it easy for market predators to thrive...
https://www.weaselzippers.us/471345-gas-prices-up-more-than-42-since-biden-took-office/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/471345-gas-prices-up-more-than-42-since-biden-took-office/)
When at the pump, don't forget to thank a Marxist...not with a fist-bump but a fist-smash...
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Used to be under $2.00 now over $3.00. Should raise my "diagnostic Fee" but there ain't no damn work ::pullhair::
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H/T-WZ
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https://youtu.be/eUy6amOIh9s
Ha ha haaa! Hope this moron likes cackling on the gallows...
She and her boss and all the handlers chose to shut down domestic pumping and exploration, chose to back out of pipeline agreements...and chose to be hostages of unfriendly OPEC+ nations!
Ha ha haa!!! ::doublebird::
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Yup!!! Paste that on pumps!!!
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JoeFraud and TeamDepends mulls killing off another pipeline...
https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-admits-it-is-considering-shutting-down-another-pipeline-as-fuel-prices-skyrocket (https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-admits-it-is-considering-shutting-down-another-pipeline-as-fuel-prices-skyrocket)
...it's the insane thing to do, so pretty easy to predict they'll do it...
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These people are UNsane! ::gaah::
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JoeFraud and TeamDepends mulls killing off another pipeline...
https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-admits-it-is-considering-shutting-down-another-pipeline-as-fuel-prices-skyrocket (https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-admits-it-is-considering-shutting-down-another-pipeline-as-fuel-prices-skyrocket)
...it's the insane thing to do, so pretty easy to predict they'll do it...
Read somewhere that most of congress as well as Bidet and Camel-Toe have stock in the Russian oil companies and if the US has to buy from foreign sources their stock price goes up.
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These people are UNsane! ::gaah::
An hourly headline for these times...
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H/T-WZ
::facepalm:: ::gaah::
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H/T-WZ
Oh, and FJB!
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Best one yet...
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H/T-WZ
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May be some softening in WTI and Brent...but it could be temporary with folks taking about releasing reserves. So, likely no real impact at the pump for most. A little recent drop is already baked in.
In my nape of the north...CostCo at $2.94 for reg is lowest...but despising ethanol with a passion that could consume the sun, I load premium...and $3.27 at a Country Market is lowest deal, CostCo $3.34.
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Previously, my habit was to use 1 of 3 gas cards, Shell, Sunoco or Exxon & pay the cards off monthly.
Now I fill up @ Jihadi Gas @ the edge of my town & pay 3.29 cash, regular -- been doing that for 4-5 months now.
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.... but it could be temporary with folks taking (sic) about releasing reserves.
The Reserves are not being released in this country, they're being sent to Asia -
So why now, of all times, is the Biden administration selling off America's Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to Asia? (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/something_very_peculiar_is_happening_with_our_strategic_petroleum_reserve.html)
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.... but it could be temporary with folks taking (sic) about releasing reserves.
The Reserves are not being released in this country, they're being sent to Asia -
So why now, of all times, is the Biden administration selling off America's Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to Asia? (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/something_very_peculiar_is_happening_with_our_strategic_petroleum_reserve.html)
More intentional punishment of the hostages formerly known as citizens...
Gulag Amerika
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Crap, here we go again...
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/major-industrial-accident-sparks-explosion-exxon-refinery-texas (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/major-industrial-accident-sparks-explosion-exxon-refinery-texas)
It's a crap shoot...sabotage or aging decrepit infrastructure as a result of hostile regulatory and climate-cult politics?
And the 90% get hammered some more...
Despotic clown world sucks...well past time to flip the script...
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Via WZ's...
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To be more accurate...and profitable for an enterprising person who puts it on a sticker...is:
"Assume the Biden Mandated Position"
FIFY
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H/T-WZ
::hysterical::
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H/T-WZ
::hysterical::
Funny. BTW it is really hard to siphon gas now thanks to anti siphon/anti rollover leak devices. Current thieves are using drills through gas tanks. Some smart thieves used a van with a false bottom through which they access the underground tanks at gas stations.
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While it would be nice to see DemCom's and all leftists, terrorists and anarchists pay more than sane people...gutlessness makes that unlikely...so we are left with ridiculing, cursing and warning said traitors among us their time is running out...
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JoeFraud wants to release from the SPR...which is stupid as we all know, the SPR was meant to be for legitimate external threats...not cratering poll numbers in an off-year election cycle...
And...bet they didn't want to be reminded of this...
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1509632665841909791
Damned Marxists own 100% of this!!!
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::siren:: ::siren:: ::siren:: DANGER! BATSHYT-CRAZY AHEAD! DANGER! ::siren:: ::siren:: ::siren::
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/biden-infuriates-environmentalists-and-oil-refiners-allowing-more-ethanol-gas (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/biden-infuriates-environmentalists-and-oil-refiners-allowing-more-ethanol-gas)
Stay away from that trash!!!
Also, in a perfect example of a despotic government sticking it to people coming and going like all apex criminals do...
https://thenewamerican.com/feds-fine-wind-farm-company-millions-for-killing-eagles-after-encouraging-wind-power/ (https://thenewamerican.com/feds-fine-wind-farm-company-millions-for-killing-eagles-after-encouraging-wind-power/)
...it's government like this that breeds its own destruction.
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As always...scum-sucking low-life Marxist filth lies...the SPR release was NOT to lessen the burden for American's at the pump...it is lessening the burden of Euro's and keeping the oppression of American's in place by paying for the hostile foreign oil they shackled us too!
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oil-bidens-emergency-spr-release-heading-europe (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oil-bidens-emergency-spr-release-heading-europe)
Classic Soros->Obamao->Puppet BS!!! ::outrage::
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/18/report-jp-morgan-predicts-national-average-gasoline-prices-over-6-gallon-by-august/
Not a hard call to make if you have eyes and a normal functioning mind...
We'll see if JPM's Natasha Kaneva is right on her math...but holding that refining output is as close to a hard known as is possible to get and the lack of any material evidence supporting a relaxation of high oil prices...the only variable that can help or hinder the price of gasoline is on the demand side...
Given the global logistical logjam of goods (especially in China)...if that releases the demand just from distribution alone once goods start hitting domestic ports will be enough to keep it elevated...
This is going to be a very squirrely summer into fall...
Biden supporters, should they dare to reveal themselves...should be subsidizing our gas!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1524371946762379264
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Today in Warren NJ----$5.09 regular
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Ugh
By me, best deal is at CostCo - 3.94, 4.29 for premium
I buy premium where it is ethanol free...and pay more for it...cause I HATE ethanol and what it does to all internal combustion engines!!! ::outrage::
There's 2 places by the lake - 4.65
There's several by me at home - 4.49
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Costco here yesterday $4.65, put $50 in, not even 1/2 a tank
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H/T-WZ
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Finally paid over $4, today. Passed on waiting in a huge line at Costco Eden Prairie for $3.96 and got it for $4.04 in Golden Valley. Just to see that it was 3.99 at a Speedway next to my hotel. ::facepalm::
$43 to drive from Cedar Rapids to the Twin Cities. ::pullhair::
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$4.39 here in NC.
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$4.49 - $4.59, regular cash @ a Delta station in my town -- spending about $130 a week on the stuff.
#FJB
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Regular $4.43 a gallon here, Westmoreeland County, Virginia.
Fasmart station.
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Stupid and pointless...
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/white-house-mulls-over-tapping-emergency-diesel-stockpile-address-east-coast-crisis (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/white-house-mulls-over-tapping-emergency-diesel-stockpile-address-east-coast-crisis)
...along with destructive and tyrannical they are the pillars of the latter day DemCom despots.
Which brings us to this POS EnergySec...Russia-hoaxer...refusing to answer for this occupation governments intentional destruction!
https://www.weaselzippers.us/482270-bidens-energy-secretary-snaps-when-asked-about-high-gas-prices/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/482270-bidens-energy-secretary-snaps-when-asked-about-high-gas-prices/)
Lying POS deserves to be incarcerated for treason, period.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1527102543133827073 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1527102543133827073)
Following orders won't save any y'all from accountability.
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H/T-WZ
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https://voxday.net/2022/05/23/the-fed-cant-do-what-it-must/
The Fed Can’t Do What It Must
Karl Denninger sees the proximate problem, but not the structural impediment to solving it:
Either Hike 200bps Today and 100 Each Mtg Until PPI Cools. or watch the economy literally burn to the ground.
At the same time all inhibitions on energy production here in the US must be lifted immediately. All of them. All coal plants shut down but still operational and those intended to be retired must have those orders rescinded immediately. Further, all refined product exports must be banned.
If you didn’t get the hint from WalMart and Target’s earnings announcements you’re deaf, blind, stupid and might be starving and homeless within months. Fuel prices continue to ramp, in no small part not because of oil but because we’re exporting products to other nations, specifically Europe. This must end now.
There is no instant solution but if we do not put a stop to the transportation cost and fertilizer problems now by this fall and winter the lower 50% of the economic strata in this nation will be hard-pressed to both feed their families and heat their homes. That is the combination that leads to riots and worse. Witness Sri Lanka where its already happening and politician homes are being set on fire.
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https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=245899
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The Fed cornered itself, it thinks it can once again half-ass itself out of this by largely doing nothing but talk, and the Marxist occupation government is doing all it can to add fuel to the fire with stratospheric deficit spending and economic strangulation...
They are not going to undo what they did...even if the Fed started jacking rates...the occupation government will not stop its psychotic behavior...
America-destroying Marxism...flows from the traitorous Obamao through his puppet JoeFraud -
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-biden-admits-sky-rocketing-energy-prices-are-part-green-transition (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-biden-admits-sky-rocketing-energy-prices-are-part-green-transition)
Let me know if/when people wake up and smell the rank treason...
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It bears writing out what he said:
Struggling to speak coherently, Biden said “When it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that God willing when it’s over we’ll be stronger.”
“The world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels when this is over,” Biden added.
So, yes, it's purposeful. "Less reliant"?!
So much for the needed plastics and fertilizer, etc. as well.
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The local equivalent of the
SuperAmerica Speedway weekly gouge has been set at $4.349. And this time WalMart is matching it, so no immediate comedown from that gouge mark. ::pullhair::
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Yeah, and I think the worst is yet to come... ::outrage::
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Topped off last night...let it get down a little more than I would like, typically don't like getting below 1/2 but I was under 1/4...paid $4.60 for my premium (no ethanol)...$74. Ouch. Felt like grabbing a Marxist and shaking them by the ankles to recoup some of that JoeFraud taxation without representation...but figured all I'll get is lint and whimpering...
Still...some appeal on the latter...
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A nickel shy of $5.00 this AM
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Well, Lie-a-watha and the rest of the Demonscat filth are coming up with more of the old discredited methods to further destroy supply and ensure there is $200/b oil and $10+/g gas!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-admin-considering-proposal-tax-oil-gas-windfall-profits (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-admin-considering-proposal-tax-oil-gas-windfall-profits)
They literally ache for BITS...everything these demons do is provocative and destructive...under their tyranny there can only be more misery, pain and death...
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I blame Biden his greenie pals.
I don't think the Russian oil embargo helps. I lose track of all the sanctions and the exemptions.
The old Saudi oil embargo was externally inflicted. The Russian oil embargo is not Russia inflicted. It is self inflicted by the west.
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Illegitimate JoeFraud occupation government on soaring gas prices (and inflation, stagnation too don't forget...all BY DESIGN!) -
FU! Euro peons got it worse, so STFU!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-white-house-tells-americans-they-have-it-better-europeans-gas-prices (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-white-house-tells-americans-they-have-it-better-europeans-gas-prices)
Yup, enjoy your serfdom and the transition into permanent serfdom...
They are doing all of this ON PURPOSE, they want you ON YOUR KNEES.
Screw that, and them!!!
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Illegitimate JoeFraud occupation government on soaring gas prices (and inflation, stagnation too don't forget...all BY DESIGN!) -
FU! Euro peons got it worse, so STFU!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-white-house-tells-americans-they-have-it-better-europeans-gas-prices (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-white-house-tells-americans-they-have-it-better-europeans-gas-prices)
Yup, enjoy your serfdom and the transition into permanent serfdom...
They are doing all of this ON PURPOSE, they want you ON YOUR KNEES.
Screw that, and them!!!
Someone should have responded:
"Hey Brandon -- word on the street's that you're seething over your low poll numbers -- but don't fret so much -- you're not in nearly as bad a shape as Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley or Kennedy! It's not that they're just underwater . . .they're underground!!"
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https://youtu.be/y-qUNuGR2dA
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Loads of info here...everything I am seeing indicates as the costs go up, margins on everybody get squeezed...at some point demand drops off (guessing that's the 99% not the 1%)...
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/The-Four-Main-Factors-that-Influence-U.S.-Gas-Prices_v5-1.jpg)
https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Statistics/State-Motor-Fuel-Notes-Summary-january-2022.pdf?la=en&hash=F649022BA19339184C9ED8DAEFD26ABE8DEE2377 (https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Statistics/State-Motor-Fuel-Notes-Summary-january-2022.pdf?la=en&hash=F649022BA19339184C9ED8DAEFD26ABE8DEE2377)
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/what-drives-gasoline-prices (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/what-drives-gasoline-prices)
https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/transportation-energy/estimated-gasoline-price-breakdown-and-margins (https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/transportation-energy/estimated-gasoline-price-breakdown-and-margins)
(https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Oil-and-Natural-Gas/Gasoline/what-we-pay-for-at-the-pump-eia.png)
https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/energy-primers/gas-prices-explained#price-at-pump (https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/energy-primers/gas-prices-explained#price-at-pump)
https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Oil-and-Natural-Gas/Gasoline/gas-prices-explained.pdf?la=en&hash=B0041B4446DA41DDAF971FE9A62F535F552CD614 (https://www.api.org/-/media/Files/Oil-and-Natural-Gas/Gasoline/gas-prices-explained.pdf?la=en&hash=B0041B4446DA41DDAF971FE9A62F535F552CD614)
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https://twitter.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/1537058097620992000
Inflation and grotesque energy prices...courtesy of democrap actions...not Russia, not Putin, not oil companies...it's ESG and typical leftist destructive insanity...100% democrat-owned misery.
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The petulance and blind obedience to fairy tale energy dogma says it all...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/chevron-ceo-slams-political-rhetoric-scorching-letter-biden (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/chevron-ceo-slams-political-rhetoric-scorching-letter-biden)
And since the illegitimate occupation government is openly hostile and condescending to domestic producers...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-overtakes-saudi-arabia-chinas-top-oil-supplier (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-overtakes-saudi-arabia-chinas-top-oil-supplier)
...only the Saudi's can fill the Russian oil gap in Europe...thus keeping prices high, and keeping America hostage to foreign producers!
So as American production falls...
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/eia-us-refining-capacity-sinks-near-decade-low (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/eia-us-refining-capacity-sinks-near-decade-low)
...and the illegitimate occupation government lies and ridicules domestic industry...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/only-11-americans-believe-biden-narrative-putin-blame-record-gas-prices (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/only-11-americans-believe-biden-narrative-putin-blame-record-gas-prices)
...only the most hardcore American imbecile believes the Illegitimate occupation governments meme that Russia is to blame!
And the DemCom's are eating themselves...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-will-call-congress-suspend-gas-tax-three-months (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-will-call-congress-suspend-gas-tax-three-months)
...as citizens suffer.
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This entire illegitimate occupation government is doomed. What is tragic is their insistence upon taking every soul down with them!
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Supply issues, your up!
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oil-giants-warns-much-higher-prices-next-3-5-years-amid-lack-supply (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oil-giants-warns-much-higher-prices-next-3-5-years-amid-lack-supply)
$150/bbl Brent? WTI won't want to lag...
And the fricken Euro's want to make it worse for themselves...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/eu-considering-capping-gas-prices (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/eu-considering-capping-gas-prices)
...which is sure to have producers cap output...so, they'll be going to rationing next...fracking brilliant!
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Hope they keep that stupid across the pond!
But ESG buttpuppet Biden won't break his EnviroNazi chains...but being ridiculed by his own on gas tax holiday means he'll probably skip that...
I see nothing but upward pressure on prices...
This is only going to get uglier...
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1539990590775087105
He/us weren't bullsh*tting, were we?
Welcome to Reality.
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It is amazing to see so called 'leaders' destroy their economies.
Some refuse to pay for the gas then blame Russia. The so called gas for rubles is actually gas for Euros paid into a Russian bank where it cannot be seized.
Kiev shut down a pipeline to spite the Donbass and that pipeline supplied 1/3 of gas to Germany and Germany did nothing.
Now Canada refuses to return a gas turbine or turbines (compressors?) to Russia sent there for repair by Siemens. Russia says that is the reason for reduced gas flow through NS1. Noe there is pre planned 10 day shut down for repairs of NS1.
Export of US nat gas and oil is currently allowed. How long until that ends?
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Tired of carrying the Euro's...
Tired of this occupation government killing us...
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Just exaustipated...
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CNN: "What do you say to those families that say, 'listen, we can't afford to pay $4.85 a gallon for months, if not years?’"
BIDEN ADVISOR BRIAN DEESE: "This is about the future of the Liberal World Order and we have to stand firm."
https://thelibertydaily.com/384021-2/
Low-Info Voter translation:
CNN - Yo, B-Dog, what up wit dees gas prices, yo?
B-Dog - Git used to it, bitch! Transformin' sh*t here, fool!
Know your place on the Liberal World Order plantation...it's easy to figure out...do you give orders or obey them?
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1542572947315073027
https://youtu.be/swum3wMOaIo
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He actually channeled Marsha Brady!
::unknowncomic::
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And he wouldn't understand it if you explained it to him...
ETA - And trying to explain this to him is several orders of magnitude more difficult to pull off -
Catsimatidis reacted to Biden’s remarks by defending gas station owners, arguing that they’ve been “making the same margin that we’ve been making forever” as they have to cover payroll and pay rent, electricity bills, and other operating expenses.
While the margin gas station owners make fluctuates several cents one way or the other, Catsimatidis said it’s “ridiculous to put it on us. We’re not the ones that created the problem.”
The price of gasoline has nearly doubled since Biden took office, with the president variously blaming oil industry greed, a lack of refining capacity, global supply shortfalls set against a sharp post-pandemic rebound in demand, and the war in Ukraine.
Some experts and industry insiders have argued that the Biden administration’s anti-fossil fuel policies have discouraged companies from investing in refining capacity.
“It’s not the war in Ukraine. It’s really domestically caused constraint on the supply side,” said Ross McKitrick, a professor of economics at the University of Guelph in Ontario and expert on energy and environmental policy, in a recent interview with The Epoch Times.
“Nobody’s willing to invest in expanding refinery capacity because the outlook from everything that the government has said is you won’t get the approvals,” he added.
McKitrick’s view was echoed by Chevron CEO Mike Wirth, who said in a recent interview that he does not believe another oil refinery will be built again in the United States, arguing that government policies are the key factor.
“We’ve seen refineries closed. We’ve seen units come down. We’ve seen refineries being repurposed to become bio refineries. And we live in a world where the policy, the stated policy of the U.S. government is to reduce demand for the products that refiners produce,” Wirth said.
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For his part, Catsimatidis said in the interview on Fox that there’s only one fix for the current inflationary spike—a big part of which is due to soaring energy costs.
“We have 100 years’ worth of oil,” he said. “Open up the spigots.”
“If we open up the spigots and flooded the market with oil, with crude oil, American crude oil, we bring the price of oil back” and “inflation goes away,” Catsimatidis said.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oil-billionaire-blasts-bidens-gas-price-blame-game-says-only-one-thing-will-fix-inflation (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oil-billionaire-blasts-bidens-gas-price-blame-game-says-only-one-thing-will-fix-inflation)
Not Russia, not anybody but the puppet JoeFraud doing the bidding of the DeepState Manchurian...may he soon enjoy Hell's flames for eternity!
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I recall that gas station owners make very little off the gas. The pumps exist to draw people into an over priced convenience store.
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Yeah...but your Marxist filth likes to highjack language as a means of bludgeoning enemies and spinning MarxistMedia talking points to disseminate and amplify their lies...
Oil companies margins on a gallon produced have always been low, like 3-4%...but they start with the most volume...so hence they get to be labelled "greedy" and raking in something called "windfall profits"...which all things being equal in production (costs) margins are proportional to that...duh...
And the retailers being closer to the end user...get to be labelled "gougers"...but they are limited in what they can do legislatively to prevent going too out of line with competing retailers...and are perversely much more hampered on the down side...so the bigger retailers don't crush smaller chains and independents with discounts...and correct me if I am wrong...but I thought going up they can price to LIFO on deliveries...which is why prices at the pump rise faster than they fall...
Pretty much every ill visited upon energy in this (and most) nation(s) is driven entirely by government taxation and regulation...
(Holding up my "change my mind" sign)
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Yeah...but your Marxist filth likes to highjack language as a means of bludgeoning enemies and spinning MarxistMedia talking points to disseminate and amplify their lies...
Oil companies margins on a gallon produced have always been low, like 3-4%...but they start with the most volume...so hence they get to be labelled "greedy" and raking in something called "windfall profits"...which all things being equal in production (costs) margins are proportional to that...duh...
And the retailers being closer to the end user...get to be labelled "gougers"...but they are limited in what they can do legislatively to prevent going too out of line with competing retailers...and are perversely much more hampered on the down side...so the bigger retailers don't crush smaller chains and independents with discounts...and correct me if I am wrong...but I thought going up they can price to LIFO on deliveries...which is why prices at the pump rise faster than they fall...
Pretty much every ill visited upon energy in this (and most) nation(s) is driven entirely by government taxation and regulation...
(Holding up my "change my mind" sign)
From what I read the last time gas prices spiked, the oil companies/gas stations make less per gallon than the state and Fed taxes on it.
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Yeah...but your Marxist filth likes to highjack language as a means of bludgeoning enemies and spinning MarxistMedia talking points to disseminate and amplify their lies...
Oil companies margins on a gallon produced have always been low, like 3-4%...but they start with the most volume...so hence they get to be labelled "greedy" and raking in something called "windfall profits"...which all things being equal in production (costs) margins are proportional to that...duh...
And the retailers being closer to the end user...get to be labelled "gougers"...but they are limited in what they can do legislatively to prevent going too out of line with competing retailers...and are perversely much more hampered on the down side...so the bigger retailers don't crush smaller chains and independents with discounts...and correct me if I am wrong...but I thought going up they can price to LIFO on deliveries...which is why prices at the pump rise faster than they fall...
Pretty much every ill visited upon energy in this (and most) nation(s) is driven entirely by government taxation and regulation...
(Holding up my "change my mind" sign)
From what I read the last time gas prices spiked, the oil companies/gas stations make less per gallon than the state and Fed taxes on it.
Oh, yeah!
Using this data...
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=10&t=5 (https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=10&t=5)
https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/ (https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/)
Fed % about 3.78%/gal & avg of states about 6.37%...Fed probably gets what oil co's net margin is! Greedy windfall bastards, right?! Retail fighting for a paltry 1 point something percent...diesel is worse...
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First, the warnings...then, the occupation government not giving a damn...followed by shutdowns...followed by occupation government anger at refiners and demands to have it all fixed by tomorrow...followed by a big fat dose of reality the occupation government ignores, the low-info voters following the occupation government propaganda riot and loot...and the occupation government blames racists, Russians and Trump...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/are-us-gasoline-refiners-running-out-steam (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/are-us-gasoline-refiners-running-out-steam)
Clown World...
Time to purge the clowns...
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https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/06/tucker-carlson-biden-selling-u-s-emergency-oil-reserves-to-china-is-impeachable-possibly-indictable-offense/
One indictment among hundreds of acts of treason!
ETA - https://thepostmillennial.com/revealed-biden-sold-1-million-barrels-of-oil-from-us-strategic-reserves-to-chinese-company-hunter-biden-invested-in
::outrage::
Heads are gonna roll...just down to when...
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H/T-WZ
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Buttiplug admits it is all about punishing the American people...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-transport-secretary-again-says-pain-high-gas-prices-benefit (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-transport-secretary-again-says-pain-high-gas-prices-benefit)
And, no...you insufferable commie despots...it will not drive the sane to green lies! You and your illegitimate ilk are destroying electrical production in this nation at a time when you shut down domestic oil and gas...sold precious reserves to idiots (Euro's) and enemies (China & Russia) and our purposely aged and overstressed grids and remaining plants cannot handle any more demand...and you effing know it you little sh*t!
All your ilk wants is destruction, pain and misery...you sick sons of bitches see it as the golden ticket to unlimited power for perpetuity...when in fact it ensures everything is destroyed...even you instigating sons of bitches!
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H/T-CTH
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What if the US promises LNG to EU.
Then a later admin decides not to export US LNG?
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JoeFraud currently is shipping it...
And yes, anybody else but a DemCom/Cuck will be sure domestic need is satisfied first...
Let them embrace green...
::mooning::
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Denying reality and telling lies...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1554954016752386048
...it's a hallmark of totalitarian regimes, and ultimately it is what collapses them.
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Effing morons...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-withdraws-record-amount-crude-strategic-midterm-reserve (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-withdraws-record-amount-crude-strategic-midterm-reserve)
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Palpatine with Dementia will sign anything his handlers place in front of his sorry face...
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/biden-admin-reportedly-ready-refill-strategic-petroelum-reserve (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/biden-admin-reportedly-ready-refill-strategic-petroelum-reserve)
Criminal.
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The only reason oil is in the $80's is because they've been flooding the market with reserve oil. WTF does he think will happen when that goes into reverse?
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That, and reduced demand...either from crippled logistics and economic destruction as a result of their intentional mismanagement...and altered reality (more people telecommuting...cutting back on travel) etc.
Yes, I see this as a planned scheme to sell to baksheesh pals and pass the loss onto the taxpayer on refilling with higher foreign supplied.
It is all intentional insanity.
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The shat is about to hit the fan, again...
After treasonously destroying domestic oil & gad production and exploration...after chaining America's neck to its enemies, after destroying NS pipeline and shipping our natural gas we need this winter to a bunch of useless deadbeat EuroSocialist trash...
...after purposely squandering the SPR and selling low to foreign business pals hostile to America...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeU3b1cVsAA-EE_?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeU3b1cVsAA-EE_?format=jpg&name=small)
...after begging OPEC for more production and being told to eff off...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/opecs-action-testimony-staggering-us-geopolitical-and-geoeconomic-error (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/opecs-action-testimony-staggering-us-geopolitical-and-geoeconomic-error)
...now, he is trying to make TheBigGuy deals with comrade Maduro...
...and throwing Juan Guaidó under the bus...
Hey? Whatever happened to crossing the IC side of the DeepState? ::popcorn::
As for giving europeasants our gas...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/why-us-will-not-ban-lng-exports (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/why-us-will-not-ban-lng-exports)
...uhh, what? They stave off BITS there only to see BITS here? ::bus::
Hopefully, The Swamp is BITS ground zero...if it comes to pass...frankly...caring what happens to despots is going to be a local affair for most folks...
FJB and all associated with him!
We will not forget or forgive...
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^^^
I'd love to be in the room with MBS and Maduro. Maybe throw in Putin.
They could compare stories about Biden grovelling for oil.
Every time Biden personally insults some world leader I cringe. MBS. Putin. I imagine he insulted Maduro as well.
Even during the Cuban missile crisis leaders talked civilly. They also kept talking.
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We are witnessing the greatest most heinous "See, I told you so!" moment ever...we warned people the insane suicidal destruction the election-stealers would do, their desperation was obvious, they totalitarian actions predictable...their continuing path of destruction will not end until this nation and the entire world is engulfed in fire, misery and death...
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H/T-WZ
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Up 16 cents since yesterday ::gaah::
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H/T-CTH
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What I've noticed is diesel soaring, again. Back over $5 in Iowa. All in the past week.
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What I've noticed is diesel soaring, again. Back over $5 in Iowa. All in the past week.
Yeah, which will have distribution cost impacts downstream...with ports practically dormant the only stuff moving will be by air (most costly), truck & rail...
And in France...strains in the socialist order...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/third-french-gas-stations-experiencing-supply-difficulties-energy-giant-seeks-urgent-wage (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/third-french-gas-stations-experiencing-supply-difficulties-energy-giant-seeks-urgent-wage)
Chicken-egg, meh...ALL socialists/globalists are to blame, morons!
https://twitter.com/Michael_Yon/status/1578789127587524608 (https://twitter.com/Michael_Yon/status/1578789127587524608)
The forests are alive...with the sound of chopping...
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/breaking-saudi-arabia-foreign-ministry-confirms-joe-biden-attempted-coerce-kingdom-cut-oil-prices-midterm-election/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/breaking-saudi-arabia-foreign-ministry-confirms-joe-biden-attempted-coerce-kingdom-cut-oil-prices-midterm-election/)
Investigations and impeachment...yeah...
Only thing for certain is more embarrassment and shame for we the oppressed... ::unknowncomic::
Winner, winner - https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1580398800564166656 (https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1580398800564166656)
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Somebody slid another bowl of ice cream to jello-head JoeFraud and had him sign off on depleting the SPR to near empty in a futile attempt to pause the chaos he's purposely inflicted upon citizens...
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/biden-admin-could-announce-whopping-15-million-barrel-spr-release-midterms (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/biden-admin-could-announce-whopping-15-million-barrel-spr-release-midterms)
FJB
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I understand that Trump attempted to top off the SPR late 2019 when oil prices were so low and ChuckYouSchumer made a point of stopping him from doing that.
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I recall something about that...doesn't seem sane to allow a POTUS to drain it but not fill it...if its a funding issue it's ridiculous...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/energy-execs-tell-granholm-shuttered-us-oil-refineries-wont-restart (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/energy-execs-tell-granholm-shuttered-us-oil-refineries-wont-restart)
Execs are in no mood to rescue a hostile regime from its self-inflicted wounds...and I cannot blame them. The DemoCommies and gutless Cucks own this mess...they should choke from it...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/top-pipeline-ceo-compares-bidens-chaotic-energy-policy-saturday-night-live-skit (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/top-pipeline-ceo-compares-bidens-chaotic-energy-policy-saturday-night-live-skit)
Yes, it truly is this stupidly insane...
The DeomoCommies are doing this, on purpose...but only with an election looming do they fear the effects of what they are doing...take the election away...they would still be destroying everything!!!
::viking::
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https://myfox8.com/news/new-north-carolina-laws-in-effect-jan-1-recap-of-2022s-new-laws/
Fuel tax increase
Gas could cost you more in 2023. NC’s fuel tax is scheduled to increase from 38.5 cents to 40.5 cents per gallon. The North Carolina Department of Revenue reports that fuel tax increase is calculated by taking into account population change and inflation. The inspection tax will remain in the same at .0025 cents per gallon. The federal gas tax is currently 18.4 cents per gallon.
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https://myfox8.com/news/new-north-carolina-laws-in-effect-jan-1-recap-of-2022s-new-laws/
Fuel tax increase
Gas could cost you more in 2023. NC’s fuel tax is scheduled to increase from 38.5 cents to 40.5 cents per gallon. The North Carolina Department of Revenue reports that fuel tax increase is calculated by taking into account population change and inflation. The inspection tax will remain in the same at .0025 cents per gallon. The federal gas tax is currently 18.4 cents per gallon.
Lucky you...
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Seven states—Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, and Utah—will see gas taxes increase on January 1, either due to inflation indexing, automatic adjustments tied to the average price of fuel, or the expiration of gas tax holidays.
https://taxfoundation.org/2023-state-tax-changes/
Still, Minnestupid is not a low tax state...according to Gas Buddy average right now is about $0.05/gal higher here than NC...FWIW which isn't much...the suck will worsen for all...
And, as we all know...wherever there are DemoCommies & Cucks there is punitive thefts going on in a host of arenas...
When 2023 sees more chickens returning to roost and things really turn to sh*t...we can count on these same imbeciles to do another round of absolutely stupidity to make it all so much more worse...
::outrage::
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We used to be 14+ cents /gal til that fat ass raised it +22 in 2016, now at 41/gal
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IMHO, gas taxes should be lowered AUTOMATICALLY as prices rise. ALL of them FED STATE and local, no exceptions. Sales taxes (often applied after other taxes) should be banned in the states that have them (like Illinois). Then you may see actual effort into keeping prices reasonable. It's not the oil industry keeping the prices high, its government policy. Including taxes.
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FJB!
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What's all this talk of easing gas prices. Reg here up 40+cents in the last 10 days ::pullhair::
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What's all this talk of easing gas prices. Reg here up 40+cents in the last 10 days ::pullhair::
All the talk is lies.
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It'll get worse...
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Prices are over $4 in blue states and high $3's elsewhere again. Crickets from the lamestream.
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In a weird turn, one of the highest places in Cedar Rapids to buy gas is at the Sam's Club, 3.549. My neighborhood stations, who all match the WalMart, 3.469. The Costco down the road, 3.289. In fact, the next closest membership station in Iowa is at $3.399.
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The cheap stuff in Minnestupid is all around 3.50 range...getting away from the evil ethanol gets costly, but with small engine season approaching (slowly, still see flakes in these parts and our lake is only almost ice-free)...and we haven't got to Memorial Day yet which is the traditional start for the summer bump...
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Ours has been bumping up at 10 cents a pop to $3.39/$3.49 at most stations.
Two weeks ago, I filled up at $3.09.
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Bad enough as it is paying through the nose with FJB prices...
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/30/evacuation-transportation-issue-citgo-fuel-depot-in-port-of-tampa-accidentally-shipped-diesel-fuel-as-unleaded-gasoline-to-stations-in-tampa-sarasota-fort-myers-cape-coral-daytona-and-more/
...then get hit with this fvckup...
La la la la lawsuits!!!!
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Gas up 50c a gallon overnight to $4.099, here.
FJB
FJBV