It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Faith & Family => Topic started by: Glock32 on January 27, 2014, 07:31:20 PM
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Oh boy, this is a good one. No matter how well you think you've got your finger on the pulse of the Left's vitriol and hate for everything traditional, nothing quite compares to when they actually open their mouths (or fire up their computer) and prove you've once again underestimated the magnitude of their degeneracy. As usual, the comments section is the best part.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/amy-glass/2014/01/i-look-down-on-young-women-with-husbands-and-kids-and-im-not-sorry/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/amy-glass/2014/01/i-look-down-on-young-women-with-husbands-and-kids-and-im-not-sorry/)
Reproduced below is her miserable screed in its entirety:
I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry
Jan. 15, 2014
By Amy Glass
Every time I hear someone say that feminism is about validating every choice a woman makes I have to fight back vomit.
Do people really think that a stay at home mom is really on equal footing with a woman who works and takes care of herself? There’s no way those two things are the same. It’s hard for me to believe it’s not just verbally placating these people so they don’t get in trouble with the mommy bloggers.
Having kids and getting married are considered life milestones. We have baby showers and wedding parties as if it’s a huge accomplishment and cause for celebration to be able to get knocked up or find someone to walk down the aisle with. These aren’t accomplishments, they are actually super easy tasks, literally anyone can do them. They are the most common thing, ever, in the history of the world. They are, by definition, average. And here’s the thing, why on earth are we settling for average?
You should follow Thought Catalog on Facebook.
If women can do anything, why are we still content with applauding them for doing nothing?
I want to have a shower for a woman when she backpacks on her own through Asia, gets a promotion, or lands a dream job not when she stays inside the box and does the house and kids thing which is the path of least resistance. The dominate cultural voice will tell you these are things you can do with a husband and kids, but as I’ve written before, that’s a lie. It’s just not reality.
You will never have the time, energy, freedom or mobility to be exceptional if you have a husband and kids.
I hear women talk about how “hard” it is to raise kids and manage a household all the time. I never hear men talk about this. It’s because women secretly like to talk about how hard managing a household is so they don’t have to explain their lack of real accomplishments. Men don’t care to “manage a household.” They aren’t conditioned to think stupid things like that are “important.”
Women will be equal with men when we stop demanding that it be considered equally important to do housework and real work. They are not equal. Doing laundry will never be as important as being a doctor or an engineer or building a business. This word play is holding us back.
Did you ladies know that you're such mind numbing simpletons for being wives and mothers? Well Amy can tell you. She went to college. She has the accumulated wisdom of her (probably) 20 some odd years of being alive -- no thanks to the mindless dolt whose lack of career aspirations evidently resulted in her birth.
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My standard response to such drivel? " And what job do you have that is so much more important than raising the next generation of Humans to be civilized and productive members of society vs self-involved individuals too intent on their personal careers and goals to be worried about continued survival of the species, or to be capable of the sacrifice it takes to raise a child... "
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Amy believes having a career than enables her to take care of herself is more ...... erm ..... important and productive than having a "career" that entails taking care of more, and raising other, humans. It's a twenty-year undertaking either way. Who will be richer at the end of that, not counting toys?
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Amy believes having a career than enables her to take care of herself is more ...... erm ..... important and productive than having a "career" that entails taking care of more, and raising other, humans. It's a twenty-year undertaking either way. Who will be richer at the end of that, not counting toys?
Julia. Alone in her Garden of course. Didn't you read the brochure? Feminism: Nature's way of making sure the worst women never procreate.
I ran across nothing but this type of woman for years...incapable of being in a partnership with a male, because, you know, anything that got in the way of what she wanted personally was Misogyny. I ran into a good number of this type when doing Colorado Trail. Don't dare show her how to swing an axe properly. (someone had to show me once. I thanked him.) They were up there to prove to themselves they could sleep alone in a tent. Am man would never even have thought he couldn't. You think backpacking through Asia makes you exceptional? You are you trying to prove that to? Not me certainly. Anyone can backpack though Asia too. All you need is the will to do it.
I have friends - men earning good 6 figure incomes in their 40s - who have simply given up looking. They don't date. They don't see the point with most of the women out there in that age range being bitter old feminist hags like this girl is setting herself up to be. Who needs that? She's been backpacking through Tibet and learned to put her wants and needs first -always and forever? And seriously they are giving the Milk away ( because they are strong confident women who don't need a man) for free. There really is no biological incentive to do so. Both of these men I know would make good fathers and would enjoy being fathers.. And earning the money for an entire household is a responsibility -- its called division of labor and it makes both parties in the partnership richer. She is right Men don’t care to “manage a household.” - but it isn't because they don't see the job as important - they just know they would suck at it.
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I'll tell you what -- I'm glad to be at home. I hated working out of the house. Don't get me wrong, there were good times and I loved two of my jobs, but given a choice, I'd have been happy to be at home with a couple-few little ones. Gunsmith and I got married too late for the children, but for the last fifteen years, my job has been keeping the house with all that entails.
I painted the whole interior myself and we painted the exterior together, as well as built the garage (I was the contractor, organizing the different labor and equipment needs), lined the driveway with landscaping timbers and re-did the kitchen. I've sewn, baked bread and done the shopping; we prepare most meals together now, but I do the heavy cooking, the cleaning, the laundry, balance the books and see the bills are paid on time. I don't have to deal with the oblivions on the road, metroseckshul man, radical feminist racialist or "human resources" and this has saved me an ulcer ........ and jail time.
In spite of a serious illness side-railing for a few years, I'm an extremely fortunate and Blessed woman and to have a man who values me for all this.
Hearing about your male friends giving up, Weisshaupt, makes me sad for them.
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I have friends - men earning good 6 figure incomes in their 40s - who have simply given up looking. They don't date. They don't see the point with most of the women out there in that age range being bitter old feminist hags like this girl is setting herself up to be.
Ah yes, one of the many fringe benefits of radical militant feminism.
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Hearing about your male friends giving up, Weisshaupt, makes me sad for them.
I feel sad for them a bit too, but they aren't actually unhappy ( aside from the current govt situation that has us all unhappy) . One was married twice and lost two fortunes that way. Nicest guy in the world. The kid of guy who will drive 250 miles to come paint your barn with his paint sprayer ( I am not making that up) He is active in his church and just hunts a lot. He jokes that he is un-marriageable because he isn't willing to give up his hunting schedule so he would be gone every weekend for months..
The other is never married, looked overseas - even traveled to the Eastern Block to meet women there (where apparently if you can find a man who won't get drunk and hit you, you are doing well) He liked a lot of those women, but now, with this country in the state its in, he feels it would be criminal to bring one of those women into what he (as all of us do) fears is coming. He needs a wife really- tends to over-exert and extend himself and he needs that woman there to cluck and tell him to stop. Again, active in his church, hunting etc.
One echoed Dave Sim, and said if you learn to leave your pecker alone, it learns to leave you alone - and you get way more done.
I am sure if the right woman came along, neither would reject her, but they aren't actively looking, and if you aren't looking your chance of finding goes way , way down. At this point and at their age its slim pickings.
29/31 by Garfunkel and Oates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0#ws)
(wow. I just now realized that both of those women are on Big Bang Theory.. one was Raj's Girlfriend, the other the grad student who bought Sheldon dinner..
Didn't make that connection till just now. )
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I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry
Jan. 15, 2014
By Amy Glass
I want to have a shower for a woman
Seems like she WANTS to shower with another woman.
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I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry
Jan. 15, 2014
By Amy Glass
I want to have a shower for a woman
Seems like she WANTS to shower with another woman.
::hysterical::
It's hilarious how feminazi's equally hate normal (non-beta) men and non-feminist woymens almost equally.
And hey, Weisshaupt, I can attest to that slim pickin's factor...plus living in libiotland...well...my dating activities have gone kaput.
The comments to Amy's rant are good. And I really hope she never breeds...God, what a horrible mother that creature would be!
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Yeah I'm in that "permanent bachelorhood looking more and more likely" boat as well. I think the most disconcerting part of it is that I have become comfortable with it. So many people I knew from high school and college have either gone through bitter divorces, or resigned themselves to unhappy situations, and the common denominator in almost all of their stories is the woman they got tangled up with. "Dude, stay single" is something I've been told by several friends. It'd be one thing if it was just that ha ha "men are from mars, women are from venus" situation, but it's more the particular type of woman in our age group that is very prevalent. I'm sure men aren't exactly that appealing these days either (Pajama Boy, etc) but women are the ones pushing some cultural crusade, and the consequences of a relationship souring are pretty much lose-lose for the men, and a lot are just deciding not to bother with it. For these guys who decide not to bother with it, some learn to accept long term bachelorhood, while others take it as license to become unapologetic womanizers. Grrrl Power!
Captain Capitalism (http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/) has a good blog where the lopsided social/cultural power of modern women is an issue of frequent discussion. There is a not insignificant movement of single men in their prime earning years who have just decided "to hell with all that". Another mission accomplished for Cultural Marxism -- driving wedges into the natural relationship between men and women.
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Of the "Phases" I am about run out. The Plentiful Phase is way in the past. The Date Friends of Married Friends Phase is over and was an unmistakable series of disasters. (That whole "I'm married, why not you" thing was irritating...was never one of those "needy" guys that could not survive without another person). The Date the Gal at Work, How Convenient Phase has come and gone with mixed results. I passed on the Why Not Phase, never really much for "settling", call me old fashioned but there is a spark or there isn't...convenience and appearance just hold no appeal whatsoever with me. I guess I am now in the Whatever Phase...I don't even know what to call it. It's not that I've given up, just not gonna break my neck looking. Not that I like everything about being a bachelor, but things could be worse...I've known more than one person trapped in a bad marriage, gone through bad breakups, split up kids and caused rifts with family and freinds...not that I fear risking that, but kinda glad I never had to be in that or worse the cause of something like that. And it's not like I am completely set in all my ways, I can be flexible in things...looking back on it though always seems I worked harder at making a relationship work than the gal...well, whatever, it is what it is.
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Interestingly, I know of only one member of my high school class who got divorced.
Many are now widows or widowers, and have remarried, but that doesn't count.
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Interestingly, I know of only one member of my high school class who got divorced.
Many are now widows or widowers, and have remarried, but that doesn't count.
This is definitely a generational issue. When feminism came along ( I personally blame modern appliances for making women too idle and giving them time alone to "think"...) they simply started teaching girls that housework is "demeaning" and putting a man's needs first as some form of slavery. Yes, if the man never does the same in return, then you have a problem in your relationship, but the problem isn't relationships as a concept- but so many women are taught that they are -- that Marriage is a form of Bondage.. its a failure of a woman to "take care of herself"
Even my wife has a hard time valuing her contribution to our life because of it - "All I do is Laundry, and clean, and drive kids around.." ( oh and figure out how to run a self sufficient farm on five acres.. ) as if these weren't valuable contributions.. and as if she had no time for more mentally engaging work ( and granted when your kids are under five you don't have even that time, but its temporary and it gets better with each passing day till you do..) But I value her getting those things done, so I can concentrate on work, and then come home to that clean house and a much shorter list of things that need to be done. Society may not value her contribution to my life and to my kids lives, but I don't really give a crap, and neither should any intelligent woman... but they are brainwashed you see. I met so many attractive women I wouldn't even ask out because they were still "finding themselves" - i.e. "Doing whatever the hell they wanted, when they wanted, and with no desire for commitment and no capacity for compromise" - I was that rare man ready to commit, but I was 28 before I found a woman worth committing to. ( In fairness, I went to an East Coast Ivy, and then spend time in the People's Republic of Boulder. I was NOT giving myself the best chances.) But I don't think the chances improve much if you get out of that type of environment. One friend is in Wyoming, the other in Conservative Littleton.
Feminism just ruined women to the point where they aren't worth the effort because they are incapable mentally of making the effort. They are convinced all they need to bring to a relationship is their lady-parts. ( because by the age of 35 they have noticed that is all any man has ever valued them for) - and a good man is going to require more than that. Yes men place an disproportionate value on a Woman's looks - (welcome to the planet) but that only can buy you so much. What else ya got. And the sad fact is the only other thing most of these women are carrying is the baggage of bad relationships, hate towards men in general, and feminist lies turned irrefutable dogma -- and I know because trying to find a woman who has "found herself" I was dating women 6-10 years older than me. Its was more sad than frustrating - and most never wanted to have children at that point.. and I did.
I can only imagine its gotten worse. Look at Japan- you have young 20 somethings who aren't even interested in sex. That is where we are headed - the is no way for a man to take care of anyone economically- women are cared for by the government ( I am woman, Hear me demand the govt take care of me and buy me condoms!) and you might as well sit around and play video games all day to get a sense of accomplishment from a virtual world you can't get from this one.
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Somehow, I get the feeling she's going to end up a pathetic, lonely old hag.
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Somehow, I get the feeling she's going to end up a pathetic, lonely old hag.
She already is a pathetic, lonely old hag.
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Well, I wouldn't trade my life for hers for anything! I did the corporate world thing as a single woman. Boring compared to the life I've had with my family. I'm good at what I do and I do it well.
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Well, I wouldn't trade my life for hers for anything! I did the corporate world thing as a single woman. Boring compared to the life I've had with my family. I'm good at what I do and I do it well.
Kudos to you and all moms, LV!
I have to include my lovely bride in that group. She quit working after our last son was born (they were 13 mo apart) and has done a superb job with our children. All of their good points she gets credit for. Any bad habits are naturally my fault. ::unknowncomic::
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My very earliest memories are of my mom playing with toy cars and airplanes with me. I was probably only about 2 years old. There's a certain biological imperative at work, it's the natural order of things. We monkey around with it and end up with unpredictable social maladies as a result. I mean, does anyone really think there's no connection between societal disorders and the now-prevalent phenomenon of single mothers with kids who spend such a large part of their childhood basically farmed out to daycare centers? But yeah, you're not allowed to point it out or even question it.
The single mom thing brings to mind another of those defining traits of liberalism. It takes a thing, a thing with a generally negative perception, and transforms it into something to be lauded and glorified. It's never enough to stop at "yes, this is not an ideal situation but that's no reason to unfairly make judgments about a woman or child just because they're in that situation". It always has to be taken further to the point of assigning some sort of automatic moral superiority to it.
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There's a certain biological imperative at work, it's the natural order of things.
With everything; everything has its own nature, a fact the Left hates. They keep trying to make reality conform to their preferences, the results of which are sickening, literally.
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My wife stayed hone with both of our kids until they could fend for themselves, then she took a job at a dry cleaners and went to night school for nursing.
In 1976 she graduated, went to work in a hospital as a nurse, changed hospitals, and retired in 2013.
She made me back off when I had our son up on the wall and threatened to beat the crap out of him for one of his many transgressions. His feet were off the floor!
He straightened out and has a good job now, and helps us out when we need things done around the homestead.
Our daughter makes over $130K in her job.
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My wife stayed hone with both of our kids until they could fend for themselves, then she took a job at a dry cleaners and went to night school for nursing.
In 1976 she graduated, went to work in a hospital as a nurse, changed hospitals, and retired in 2013.
She made me back off when I had our son up on the wall and threatened to beat the crap out of him for one of his many transgressions. His feet were off the floor!
He straightened out and has a good job now, and helps us out when we need things done around the homestead.
Our daughter makes over $130K in her job.
Sounds like you and the wife have done a pretty good job, Coastie. ::thumbsup::
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Sounds like you and the wife have done a pretty good job, Coastie. ::thumbsup::
That was accepting responsibility, which is verboten these days.
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Via Ann Barnhardt.. Feminists are Ugly (http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/feminists-are-ugly/)
copied here in its entirety because its that good and directly addresses the moronic article that is the topic of this thread, and this article as well (http://youngcons.com/must-read-young-woman-gives-amazing-response-to-the-23-things-to-do-instead-of-getting-engaged-before-youre-23/)
Feminists are ugly.
Posted on January 1, 2014 by Dalrock
This is an old charge against feminists, but one which has typically only been considered superficially. The real reason feminists are ugly has nothing to do with their physical appearance. Feminists are ugly because they are miserly with love.
One of the effects of feminism is that men of my generation have had a much wider opportunity to cook. I can’t think of any men my age or younger who don’t know how to cook. Moreover, I can’t think of any men of my generation or younger who don’t enjoy cooking. This is in stark contrast to the women of the same generations, who (typically) view cooking as an indignity. The reason for the difference in attitude boils down to what cooking is all about. Cooking is an act of love, an act of service to others. It is an opportunity to care for others in a very fundamental way, to literally nourish them through the work of your own hands. This is precisely what troubles the modern woman so much about cooking (or cleaning, or changing diapers). Serving others in the mind of a feminist is an indignity, so cooking, cleaning, or any other act of service and love is the object of revulsion. Women now actually compete to show off their miserliness in caring for others, each trying to outdo the rest in proving they are the greatest scrooge with love. It has gone so far that large numbers of women are quite proud of the fact that they have never learned to cook or otherwise care for others. Their miserliness is a badge of honor. Not all women have adopted this extremely ugly worldview, but the ones who are going against the grain of the culture here understand better than anyone how uncommon their loving and caring attitudes really are today.
The ugliness of the feminist mind-frame towards cooking, cleaning, and caring for others is so profound that it is difficult to process. These women are so obsessed with not showing Christian love that they make it a priority not to serve their own families. Cooking, cleaning, and caring for their own husbands and children is a concept which is repulsive to them. Acts of service to others are in their twisted minds traps to be avoided, and many go so far as to order their entire lives around avoiding showing love to others, especially their families. These women are so gripped by miserliness they have made it a priority not to show love to their own children. When they find themselves unable to avoid an act of service and love to their families altogether, they first steel their hearts with resentment, turning their hearts to stone to avoid the feelings of selfless love they live in constant terror of developing.
It is important to remember that while these women have avoided love and service to others in an attempt to profit, this does not profit them at all. The philosophy of the miser is profoundly destructive to the miser themselves. While we shouldn’t lie about the extreme ugliness in this frame of mind, we should remember that the miser is suffering immensely from their own perverted outlook. There is also great opportunity here. While what I’m describing is quite plain to see once you consider it, very few have ever had the opportunity to really examine it. We can help explain the profound ugliness of a miserly heart, and in doing so (if we are doing it right) we are doing an act of love.
The new year is a time of resolutions, and one resolution I would offer for us all is to truly consider the folly of a miserly heart and not only repent ourselves, but help others to do the same.
May each of you have a happy and blessed new year.
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I often joke that I should have pretended I couldn't cook when I got married! LOL I've spoiled my family. Often when given the choice to go out or stay home they want to stay home and have me cook. ::whatgives:: I know a woman who does not cook. She says she doesn't cook and she means it. When ever I've been around them she or her husband was going to go get carry-out or they were going to go to a restaurant. My daughter stayed over at their house and they did eat breakfast in one day (dad went and got donuts) and went out the other. I'm not exaggerating when I say she never cooked. We were around them a lot for about 6 years and often near meal time and they were always getting something from a restaurant. Frankly, I enjoy a good meal out but to have to go out every night to get it would be a hassle.
I'd rather not cook. I don't do it for myself. I do it because I love my family and they like it when I cook. And to help my husband by keeping one part of our budget reasonable.
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A younger lady-friend of ours jokes that she doesn't want any of the small cooking appliances because her family will expect her to use them.
(http://target.scene7.com/is/image//Target/14648919?wid=610&hei=610)
This was the item we were discussing; it's a crockpot cooker/server that can be connected to others like it (or not) for buffet-style serving.
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I'd rather not cook. I don't do it for myself. I do it because I love my family and they like it when I cook. And to help my husband by keeping one part of our budget reasonable.
We're gonna be real fancy tonight. We'll labor over a frozen pizza.
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I think you all miss the point.. a lot of people don't enjoy doing the cooking, doing the laundry, vacuuming the floors, or one of the other myriad tasks that needs to be done in the modern household.. but the point is that doing these tasks is so looked down upon that even those who do them out of love are seen as menial servants, instead of celebrated for the selfless act of love that motivates them. Our society is so broken that cooking a meal for your own family is somehow seen as degrading, and an entire generation (of women especially) are convinced that doing such tasks lowers their value - because a woman's real value is in her looks and in her (independant not involving Housework) Career. This is why women are leaving their husbands in their 40's and 50's to find themselves - and why Men are finding no one worth the risk of marriage and therefor just giving up.
As Ann Calls it - its a poison - poisoning all of our relationships. Seeping through the walls...
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No, Weisshaupt, we don't miss the point at all. We've moved beyond it.
I personally don't give a rat's ass whether or not "society" values my ability to clean better than anybody I know or considers it menial and degrading. Or that I cook even when I don't friggin feel like it.
For all the trash-talk aimed at women like me, there is a market for such "skills" among those who consider themselves above such tasks.
The three weeks I was in NJ at my parents' house was spent doing a lot of cleaning. Mom likes it clean, she just has no interest in doing it, never really did. And, yes, I grumbled some at first, until I was reminded that such service to another is one way of serving Christ, so that put an end to the grumbling.
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You are a fine person, Pan. And so are other ladies here.
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No, Weisshaupt, we don't miss the point at all. We've moved beyond it.
I personally don't give a rat's ass whether or not "society" values my ability to clean better than anybody I know or considers it menial and degrading. Or that I cook even when I don't friggin feel like it.
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...that such service to another is one way of serving Christ,
::thumbsup::
A few years ago I said to my oldest "I don't like cooking". She was shocked and wasn't sure what to say. Her reaction was almost "but I thought you loved it because you love us!" I explained I do it because I love you and want to provide the best for you.
It's not just feminists who look down on women staying home. It's men too. They like the double income of a working wife.
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LadyV, for our entire marriage - almost 50 years now - I never cared whether my wife worked or didn't work. Sure, the extra money really helped, but we were never destitute, nor did we ever live beyond our means.
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You are a fine person, Pan. And so are other ladies here.
::curtsy4::
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LadyV, for our entire marriage - almost 50 years now - I never cared whether my wife worked or didn't work. Sure, the extra money really helped, but we were never destitute, nor did we ever live beyond our means.
I've had women cry on my shoulder because their husbands told them they had to go back to work after having kids.
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And, yes, I grumbled some at first, until I was reminded that such service to another is one way of serving Christ, so that put an end to the grumbling.
Not to mention payback for your mother having to clean up after you as a little tyke. ::unknowncomic::
You're a great person, Pan. Gunsmith is a lucky man.::thumbsup::
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LadyV, for our entire marriage - almost 50 years now - I never cared whether my wife worked or didn't work. Sure, the extra money really helped, but we were never destitute, nor did we ever live beyond our means.
I've had women cry on my shoulder because their husbands told them they had to go back to work after having kids.
From my perspective, there's nothing more natural than a mother wanting to be....a mother. The whole phenomenon of kids being "raised" by school and daycare centers is a big piece of the puzzle when it comes to our social and cultural ills, if you ask me.
I often wonder about the whole two-income household thing. Before the 70s, it was pretty much the norm for a husband to be the breadwinner with a full time job and the wife to take care of things at home. Somehow families managed to get by like this, usually with their own home, a car, etc. What changed? Why is it so many households (seemingly) require two incomes now? Is it just materialism -- the McMansion, 2-3 cars, expensive vacations -- or is it that our purchasing power today is less than it was back then?
My siblings and I never had to be daycare babies. Mom was there when we got home from school. I think it makes a big difference in a child's development.
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From my perspective, there's nothing more natural than a mother wanting to be....a mother. The whole phenomenon of kids being "raised" by school and daycare centers is a big piece of the puzzle when it comes to our social and cultural ills, if you ask me. You are correct. No parental contact = no guidance in what's right and wrong.
I often wonder about the whole two-income household thing. Before the 70s, it was pretty much the norm for a husband to be the breadwinner with a full time job and the wife to take care of things at home. Somehow families managed to get by like this, usually with their own home, a car, etc. What changed? Why is it so many households (seemingly) require two incomes now? Is it just materialism -- the McMansion, 2-3 cars, expensive vacations -- or is it that our purchasing power today is less than it was back then? I think it was and still is womens' lib. Gloria Steinem and all that crap.
My siblings and I never had to be daycare babies. Mom was there when we got home from school. I think it makes a big difference in a child's development. Same here.
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My daughter the historian tells me that women have always worked but it was for primarily for economic reasons. The obits for the old ladies at my church prove this out. They came over from the old country and to supplement their income they took in laundry, or mending or worked at the local grocery store. But they were always there for their kids. They weren't working 12 hour days or going out of town for work and mostly they cared for their kids when they weren't in school. My own family history is replete with women who worked. The view that women didn't work was colored by the flood of middle to upper-middle class women who poured into the marketplace during WWII. Those were the women who hadn't worked before. Poor women had always worked.
Now the view is you work to showcase your value to society. I used to go to a mom/baby group when my oldest was little. There were moms who lamented not getting that visible reward that work gives you for a job well done (raise, promotion, etc). I didn't get it. Who wants that when you look across the table at night during dinner and see your HAPPY, CALM and RELAXED family.
Why do moms need to work now. One, they're single mothers. Two, they got married and live on 2 incomes assuming that the woman would want to work after the kids. No one knows what delayed gratification is. We used to save up for stuff and now you just go get it. What do people buy for gifts any more? No one waits until their birthday or Christmas for what they want or need.
Two disposable incomes pushes consumerism and the need to keep spending.
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Pan is not only heroic, she is also as dangerous as a tigress with cubs...and all you are her cubs, she may smack you, but she keeps loving you.......the enemy is just food at best, but more likely fertilizer. Here's to Pandora!
(http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r682/ChrstnHsbndFthr/cheers-to-you-1009-lg-30622952_zps7c4d4680.jpg)
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Well ....... thank you, but now y'all are just embarrassing me. There's nothing heroic about doing what we're supposed to do.
... when you look across the table at night during dinner and see your HAPPY, CALM and RELAXED family.
LV's got it exactly right.
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When my wife and I got married, we both had jobs. However, when she became pregnant with our oldest, she and I had several discussions about her going back to work/not going back to work. We both agreed that we would much rather have the both of us raising our child together would naturally be superior to someone else doing the job for us. We now have three children ages 7, 5, and 2 that I am so grateful to see the terrific job she does of mothering them. I am grateful that our financial situation is such that she doesn't have to work, and I feel that our children will be better off for it.
I guess where the train left the station, from my at least somewhat age-limited viewpoint, is when people simply stopped being responsible for their own actions. As a child, the worst possible scenario to get into trouble for was to get caught up in a lie. Not to say there wouldn't be repercussions for the act itself should I have gotten caught, but to lie about it increased the punishment by at least an order of magnitude ::speechless:: . That's one thing taught me the value of personal responsibility, and it's a crying shame there isn't a class for it at one of your local government indoctrination camps.
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I guess where the train left the station, from my at least somewhat age-limited viewpoint, is when people simply stopped being responsible for their own actions.
My friend, you are wise beyond your years.
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I guess where the train left the station, from my at least somewhat age-limited viewpoint, is when people simply stopped being responsible for their own actions.
My friend, you are wise beyond your years.
Thanks, Alan. Means alot.