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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Pandora on March 20, 2011, 03:09:29 PM
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The Rise of Samantha Power and the risks for the American- Israel relationship (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/the_rise_of_samantha_power_and.html)
From John Podhoretz's column in the New York Post:
The Tuesday-evening meeting at the White House at which the president decided to move on Libya was "extremely contentious," according to a report in Josh Rogin's excellent blog, The Cable.
Power and a few others took the position that the United States couldn't stay on the sidelines as Moammar Khadafy murdered his own people and snuffed out the people-power revolt in the Middle East in its infancy.
They were opposed by Power's own boss, National Security Adviser Tom Donilon and by Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
But apparently, Samantha Power and Hillary Clinton persuaded Barack Obama to act. The rationale they used that led to military can come back to haunt friends of Israel's.
Again, from Podhoretz:
According to Rogin, the governing doctrine that helped Obama to make his decision to act was not an appeal to the national interest, but rather to a recent concept promulgated at the United Nations called "responsibility to protect," or R2P.
R2P is an effort to create a new international moral standard to prevent violence against civilians.
In her career as a genocide expert, Power was an indefatigable proponent of R2P, and now on the National Security Council has been "trying to figure out how the administration could implement R2P and what doing so would require of the White House going forward." Hillary is her ally in this effort, it appears.
So it was not an appeal to our national interest that led President Obama to act but rather a new concept circulating in international policy circles - and one actively promoted by Power - that prompted his shift.
Leaving aside her obvious animous for Israel, is this supposed to be the SNAFU going forward? Anytime a foreign civilian hurts, we're supposed to serve and protect?
I cannot wait for him and his fcking band of zero-liability "thinkers" to be thrown out of my WH.
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Yeah, I warned about this! You better increase recruitment 1000% because there is a buttload of civilians needing protection all around the fricken globe, especially in Africa and the Middle East!
And yeah, these idiots cannot be thrown out fast enough to suit me!
And, umm, a disturbing thought...even though it's the left going apesh*t across our land, not the Tea Party...anybody see the UN wanting intervention here to protect the leftist government of Duh Wun from those pesky Tea Party folks?
Or is that too ::foilhathelicopter::
This Regime makes anything look possible, in the worst fricken ways possible!
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And he was using the UN and the Arab League that wanted it so he had cover. Now the Arabs other than Quatar have left him high and dry ans MIA leaving us as the invaders again.
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....is this supposed to be the SNAFU going forward? Anytime a foreign civilian hurts, we're supposed to serve and protect?...
This doctrine would seem to run 180ยบ counter to the demands of the base he will need to be re-elected. Many on the Left were completely disingenuous in their opposition to Bush's military action, but a pretty large swath of them are true believers in non-violent solutions at all cost.
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This is what you get when amateurs formulate foreign policy and prosecute war .
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I can't take it. Who the hell ARE these people? Samantha Power has decided this is a good way to use us and our tax money - we're at the beck and call of the UN now - under the guise of "Responsibility to Protect".
God Damn them.
::gaah::
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What Pan said.
These idiots are so far off the reservation...
And Congress seems impotent to do bloody squat about it...
::unknowncomic::
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What Pan said.
These idiots are so far off the reservation...
And Congress seems impotent to do bloody squat about it...
::unknowncomic::
They ceded their true authority so long ago they wouldn't know what to do with a dictatorial proclamation. Eunuchs.
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They are in need of an addadicktome operation...or they need to be booted the hell out and a crop with a set put in there!
::gaah::
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I can hear Powers now....Uh, president obama.....If you use R2P now, you set the precendant for use during the next election cycle to keep the angry Tea Party in line. ::thinking::
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I can hear Powers now....Uh, president obama.....If you use R2P now, you set the precendant for use during the next election cycle to keep the angry Tea Party in line. ::thinking::
::speechless::
And in the rest of the world we would then be the arbiters of which side of the argument is the rabble.
After much consideriation, P2P & Hillary & Me has decided the problem in western India is the Hindu people. If there were no Hindu people in that area there would be no problem. The New U.S will lead a co-alition and will now enforce a,
no Hindu no pork, beefeater zone in western India. ::jihadnanner::
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This silly bitch is the same Stymie supporter who called Hillary "a monster" during the 2008 campaign , was forced to resign and the rehired to the transition team when Stymie was elected . Her genocide crusade is very selective ; she didn't see it in Saddam's Iraq or in Somalia but does see it in George Cloony's Darfur . What she essentially does is find a cause to back which will elevate her in the eyes of the world , gaining power ( no pun intended ) and influence as a result . She also is of the opinion that the U.S. must and can influence Russia and China to join the anti-Genocide front in Darfur ( which is something neither party has any intention of doing ) . She's such a Commie-Loving ( she's married to Cass Sunstein ) idealist why isn't she recommending this crap to Stymie now that he's in office ? She was all over the Bush Administration like stink on sh*t about it . Oh ... She also doesn't think ( as of Jan. 2008 ) that Iran was making a nukes .
In the end , if this silly twit is so gung ho for military action in the name of morality ( Iraq and Afghanistan are immoral ) I strogly suggest that she enlist . Otherwise ... Shut the hell up !
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Please excuse the typos ... I was distracted and didn't hit spell check .
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One other thought ... Does anyone think that Samantha will take the "credit" when this Libyan Adventure becomes a stinking pile of sh*t ?
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Yeah, she's a legitimate POS SH. And she's married to a another POS.
And scat, if not good fertilizer, should just be thrown in the trash!
When this all goes to sh*t, she'll no doubt blame the military and the Republican's.
SSDD!
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So our foreign policy is now driven by buzz-words? And led by the UN?
And there's no doubt in my mind that this admin is cozying up to the worst folks so that he has some support when he imports their style here.
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Did you hear Obamakov today? We're there because the Int'l Community gave the Community Organizer-in-Chief the go-ahead to bomb the crap out of...whatever...to prevent a humanitarian crises...then says he want Muammar gone. Umm...his Int'l Community organizer buddies didn't say they want to get rid of Muammar...
And this is one of the same brand of jackass that railed against Bush for reasons 1000 times less flimsy?
The irony is so thick you can choke on it!
::mooning::
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The real "humanitarian crisis" will be coming shortly and will have been hastened by "Stymie's Angels" ( Clinton , Rice & Power ). Frankly , I hope the four of them are the first ones killed in the next , ill-advised adventure they get us into .
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Heh, don't forget Jarrett, she is the defacto Prez after all...Presidoesnt Stymie being so disengaged all the time...probably because he's never been engaged with reality at any point in his entire bastard life!
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Did you hear Obamakov today? We're there because the Int'l Community gave the Community Organizer-in-Chief the go-ahead to bomb the crap out of...whatever...to prevent a humanitarian crises...then says he want Muammar gone. Umm...his Int'l Community organizer buddies didn't say they want to get rid of Muammar...
And this is one of the same brand of jackass that railed against Bush for reasons 1000 times less flimsy?
The irony is so thick you can choke on it!
::mooning::
Notice also, what he's basically saying is that he doesn't need to consult Congress because, by God, he consulted the international community!
An ill-defined and largely hostile "international community" now sets American foreign policy.
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Did you hear Obamakov today? We're there because the Int'l Community gave the Community Organizer-in-Chief the go-ahead to bomb the crap out of...whatever...to prevent a humanitarian crises...then says he want Muammar gone. Umm...his Int'l Community organizer buddies didn't say they want to get rid of Muammar...
And this is one of the same brand of jackass that railed against Bush for reasons 1000 times less flimsy?
The irony is so thick you can choke on it!
::mooning::
Notice also, what he's basically saying is that he doesn't need to consult Congress because, by God, he consulted the international community!
An ill-defined and largely hostile "international community" now sets American foreign policy.
Indeed, I did not intentionally gloss over that very pertinent fact. I have commented on other threads, well I think a lot of us have, how much Obama always defers to extra-national law and guidance first and cares precious little about our own pesky constitution and laws!
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Stymie has a Tar Baby !
::stirpot::
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Stymie has a Tar Baby !
::stirpot::
At least one!! ::rolllaughing::
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Stymie has a Tar Baby !
::stirpot::
At least one!! ::rolllaughing::
Good 'un, Sh. ::thumbsup::
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How long before the UN calls for invasion of Israel using R2P the Palestinians?
Heard this on Beck today.
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How long before the UN calls for invasion of Israel using R2P the Palestinians?
Heard this on Beck today.
::facepalm::
Don't give him any ideas!
:P
ETA - Besides, unless he didn't give Gates permission to speak, he's got Syria lined up next. Lot of innocents to protect there! ::) ::gaah::
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4197d9c-5622-11e0-8de9-00144feab49a.html#axzz1HbrPl1oD (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4197d9c-5622-11e0-8de9-00144feab49a.html#axzz1HbrPl1oD)
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::rant::
WHO THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE? IF ANYONE MENTIONS PALIN OR BACHMANN THEY GET LAUGHED AT AS STUPID BUT THESE WOMAN ARE SOME HOW IN CHARGE??
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO WE CAN'T BE THE WORLD'S POLICEMAN??
::bashing:: ::gaah:: ::bashing:: ::gaah::