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Title: Thug at Work
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 23, 2011, 06:40:48 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Fl3AszuU&feature=player_embedded#at=58

FreedomWorks employee Tabitha Hale was filming a heated exchange with a union thug outside the FreedomWorks office when he got violent.

Video: CWA union thug strikes young female FreedomWorks activist
By Michelle Malkin (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/23/video-cwa-union-thug-strikes-young-female-freedomworks-activist/)

Note: This is the girl he hit — Tabitha Hale. (http://tabithahale.com/)

H/T:
Classy: Union Thug Bashes Female Tea Partier… (http://weaselzippers.us/2011/02/23/classy-union-thug-bashes-female-tea-partier/)


Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: pablodefleurs on February 23, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
I am a walking hair trigger...on edge. Like one of the comments on the link...I won't start the fight...but will sure as Hell finish it.

Most folks don't realize how little tissue holds the human ear in place. And, after an open palm face strike...off comes the ear. Handing someone their own ear tends to rivet their attention. Shoving it up their a$$ more so.

As soon as that goon struck out, the defense of "fearing for one's life" becomes an adequate defense...to make certain he talks & breaths out of an air hole in his throat for the rest of his misbegotten life.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 23, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
I attended a Tea Party event last year to lend support to our state Attorney general for his work to prevent the implementation of ØbozoCare. I generally don't go to these things because I know how the cowardly dhimmis work. They goad. They instigate. They resort to mob violence to do what they lack the courage to do individually. They are cheapshot artists. They are underhanded curs.

What they don't realize is that I see them telegraphing their moves half a block away and I'm ready for them. That lessens my chances of a violent interaction, but it doesn't eliminate one. Even that slight chance is more than I want to gamble.

I'm too old to casually take a beating and I'm definitely not a martyr. I'll keep my powder dry for when it counts.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 23, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
...and yea Pablo - I like how you think  ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Glock32 on February 23, 2011, 09:04:01 PM
Rabbit punch to the throat
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 23, 2011, 09:06:06 PM


 ::facepalm::

Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: pablodefleurs on February 23, 2011, 09:53:03 PM
I'm too old to casually take a beating and I'm definitely not a martyr. I'll keep my powder dry for when it counts.

I'm not getting younger. But given the fact that most folks do not keep in shape...and that I can crank out 50 push-ups and run 8 to 10 miles @ a clip...usually makes me the fittest guy in any cross-section of men I encounter. Even a mixed martial arts bud of mine says he'd have nothing to do with me, fight-wise...& he's 5 years my junior.

I haven't been in a fight in 20 years. It'd have to be swift & powerful & then...vanish...but scenes where someone else is getting bullied infuriate me. A frontal kick to the knee, rabbit punch to the throat, open palm under the nose or a marathon groin kick would take this a-hole down in a flash. Then kick him in the head...and get the hell outta' there.

It's nearly inevitable with tempers this high.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 23, 2011, 11:37:56 PM
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I haven't been in a fight in 20 years.

I was - about 5 years ago. The guy was in his mid twenties and attacked my older brother. I think he surprised my bro because he got the best of him. So it was my turn. I rabbit-punched him in the kidney to get his attention and then clapped his ears (simultaneously) which just about put him out. He went down and I kicked him in the jaw which laid him out. I tried to choke him out but he was too greasy and I couldn't get a grip. He had tried to gouge my brother's eyes out so I was going to kill him if I could.

I had him by the throat and he was flopping like a fish. The truth is I ran out of steam before I could finish him off. Cops came and hauled him away. Prosecuting attorney wouldn't press charges because his dad and an uncle were cops.

They chalked it up to "mutual combat" and I thanked my lucky stars that it didn't turn out worse.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: BigAlSouth on February 24, 2011, 05:08:57 AM
Ahem. Men, please pay attention to the bold lyrics below:

She said, "ive seen you in here before."
I said, "Ive been here at ime or two."
She said, "Hello, my
name is bobby jo
meet my twin sister Better Lou
and we're both feeling kinda wild tonight
and you're the only cowboy in this place
and if you're up for a rodeo
we'll put a big Texas smile on
your face"
i said, "Girls,"

[Chorus]
i aint as good as i once was
i got a few years on me now
but there was a time back in my prime

when i could really lay it down
and if you need some love tonight
then i might have just enough
i aint as good as i once was
but im as good once as i ever was

i still hang out with my best friend dave
ive known him since we were kids at school
last night he
had a shots
got in a tight spot hustlin' a game of pool
with a couple of readneck boys
one great
big bad biker man
i heard David yell across the room
"hey buddy, how 'bout a helping hand."
i said, "Dave,"

[Chorus]
i aint as good as i once was
my how the years have flown
but there was a time back in my prime

when i could really hold my own
but if you wanna fight tonight
guess those boys dont look all that
tough
i aint as good as i once was
but im as good once as i ever was

i used to be hell on wheels
back when i was younger man
now my body says, "you cant do this boy"

but my pride says, "oh, yes you can


i aint as good as i once was
thats just the cold hard truth
i still throw a few back, talk a little smack
when im feelin bullet proof
so dont double dog dare me now
'cause id have to call your bluff

i aint as good as i once was
but im as good once as i ever was
maybe not be good as i once was
but im as good once as i ever was

h/t Toby Keith
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2011, 07:02:02 AM
Heh.  That's a damn good video too.   ::thumbsup::

And it is true.  This 'ol son-of-a-gun still has the temper, strength and mindset of a young fella but the slower softer body of a middle aged dude.

So don't piss me off and don't make me work too hard to get my point across cause you ain't gonna like me if I get desperate!   ::devil::

And like 'Soup says, knowing your foe, your surroundings and yourself...you will be in a better position to pick your battles!   ;)

I guess they call that last part "experience" and "wisdom"!   ;D
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 08:11:28 AM
Toby Keith - As Good As I Once Was (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldQrapQ4d0Y#ws)
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2011, 08:19:14 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/23/video-cwa-union-thug-strikes-young-female-freedomworks-activist/ (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/23/video-cwa-union-thug-strikes-young-female-freedomworks-activist/)

Utter trash.  This thug is lucky I didn't witness this...he'd not be enoying solid food for quite a while!

Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: warpmine on February 24, 2011, 08:51:54 AM
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/video-union-protest-outside-freedomworks-hq (http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/video-union-protest-outside-freedomworks-hq)

Check out the protesting thugs in this video.  ::puke::

Positively freightening.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 09:16:19 AM
OOPS! (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,190.msg1074.html#new)

Wish there was a "thread merge" function. That'd be really handy.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2011, 09:22:51 AM
Oh damn, I slapped myself!  See Trap, I do it too!

Damn CRS!

 ::bashing::
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2011, 09:46:19 AM
Beck just had Tabitha Hale on, she is filing a police report, hopefully they track the asshat down.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 09:57:27 AM
Beck just had Tabitha Hale on, she is filing a police report, hopefully they track the asshat down.

Good for her. He likely won't do jail time unless he's on probation or something, but he sure deserves to be shamed, have a police record, and go through the hassle and expense of dealing with official charges. He needs to be held accountable.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 10:02:42 AM
Hey! There IS a merge topics function!!!

I'll try it now!
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 24, 2011, 10:37:15 AM
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http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/video-union-protest-outside-freedomworks-hq

Check out the protesting thugs in this video.  puke

Positively freightening.

The way I see it, the unionists, who are also leftists, who are also global warmist kool-aid drinkers are only trying to melt some of that snow whit all of their hot air.  ::hysterical::

Seriously they've already lost - and they know it - and they're really pissed about it. They are emotionally driven people and they are definitely emotionally invested in all of this. They do not know how to channel their anger and they're not smart enough to know that they've been had.

Look for it to get progressively worse (Hey! I made a funny!) as the truth of this sinks in. And that truth is:

There may have been a time when "we" could afford the extravagances that the unions demand, but no more. That time has passed. That doesn't (necessarily) mean that they no longer have jobs, but it does mean that they will have to tighten their belts just like the rest of us.

The demonstrations, protests, and violence is going to get worse. As spring turns to summer I predict widespread astroturf events that are pretexts to confrontation and violence. I won't be taking part because, will like I already said, I know my limit for bullsh!t.

Keep cool, never forget your surroundings, and try to have someone on your six.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 10:51:42 AM
...There may have been a time when "we" could afford the extravagances that the unions demand, but no more....

I would argue that there never was a time when we could afford it, and my reasoning is the debt accumulation. I wouldn't suggest that plush entitlement packages for government workers are solely to blame for the debt, but since the debt exists, and government employees by the nature of their compensation are paid directly via taxpayer dollars, their salaries and benefits comes from the exact same pool of resources that every other government expenditure comes from, and if government is in debt, by definition it does not have enough money to cover its expenditures.

There was a time when we could pretend that we could afford the extravagances the unions demanded. There was a time when politicians could get away with purchasing the votes of union members by keeping their coffers filled at taxpayer expense, all the while our national debt accumulating until it exploded.

But thanks to that explosion, and thanks to the revelation of the nature of the Leftists who are responsible for it, the jig is up. We never could afford it.

And really, the union people scrambling in Wisconsin now, trying to offer financial concessions while retaining their collective bargaining privileges, are trying to perpetuate the notion that we could afford it before, and we can afford it again. They want to give up short term cash in the face of a public relations tsunami against them, but retain their ability to reinstate the same entitlement regime and accumulation of debt at some point in the future when the heat is off.

The lynchpin of eliminating the incestuous relationship between the Democrats and the unions is eliminating collective bargaining privileges for public employee unions, period. We never could afford it, and we will never be able to afford it.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
IBD has it nailed!

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/564057/201102231902/Govt-Unions-Depend-On-Dems-But-The-Opposite-Also-Is-True.htm?src=HPLNews (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/564057/201102231902/Govt-Unions-Depend-On-Dems-But-The-Opposite-Also-Is-True.htm?src=HPLNews)
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Pandora on February 24, 2011, 12:41:26 PM
...There may have been a time when "we" could afford the extravagances that the unions demand, but no more....

I would argue that there never was a time when we could afford it, and my reasoning is the debt accumulation. I wouldn't suggest that plush entitlement packages for government workers are solely to blame for the debt, but since the debt exists, and government employees by the nature of their compensation are paid directly via taxpayer dollars, their salaries and benefits comes from the exact same pool of resources that every other government expenditure comes from, and if government is in debt, by definition it does not have enough money to cover its expenditures.

There was a time when we could pretend that we could afford the extravagances the unions demanded. There was a time when politicians could get away with purchasing the votes of union members by keeping their coffers filled at taxpayer expense, all the while our national debt accumulating until it exploded.

But thanks to that explosion, and thanks to the revelation of the nature of the Leftists who are responsible for it, the jig is up. We never could afford it.

Who are all these "government workers"?  Painting with a broad brush, they are the bureaucracy hired to enforce the government's mandates on us, so we taxpayers are paying the salaries of our oppressors and obstructors, with medical insurance and retirement accounts far more generous than many of us have. Government passes a law instructing us what we must or may not do now and its well-paid army goes to work making sure we're properly herded.  They are responsible for little creation or productive output, they're a horde 'eating out our substance', a net drain on the economy and our personal pocketbooks.

At one time, I would have exempted teachers from that generality, but from what goes on in the schools today re:  zero tolerance engendering criminal records for kids and the lockstop, leftist propaganda willfully imposed on students, I'll no longer do so.

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And really, the union people scrambling in Wisconsin now, trying to offer financial concessions while retaining their collective bargaining privileges, are trying to perpetuate the notion that we could afford it before, and we can afford it again. They want to give up short term cash in the face of a public relations tsunami against them, but retain their ability to reinstate the same entitlement regime and accumulation of debt at some point in the future when the heat is off.

The lynchpin of eliminating the incestuous relationship between the Democrats and the unions is eliminating collective bargaining privileges for public employee unions, period. We never could afford it, and we will never be able to afford it.

Bargain for what, then?  As they've conceded on "benefits", and they'll be allowed to negotiate on pay within a certain parameter, what is it they so desperately want to retain the privilege for which to bargain as a collective?

What I suspect is the entire show over pay and benefits and "collective bargaining" is staged as cover for the issue of members being able to opt out at an annual vote.  It is this they wish to deny to people because they know if this particular issue of "choice" is granted the individual, the jig WILL be up.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Predator Don on February 24, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
I'm too old to casually take a beating and I'm definitely not a martyr. I'll keep my powder dry for when it counts.

I'm not getting younger. But given the fact that most folks do not keep in shape...and that I can crank out 50 push-ups and run 8 to 10 miles @ a clip...usually makes me the fittest guy in any cross-section of men I encounter. Even a mixed martial arts bud of mine says he'd have nothing to do with me, fight-wise...& he's 5 years my junior.

I haven't been in a fight in 20 years. It'd have to be swift & powerful & then...vanish...but scenes where someone else is getting bullied infuriate me. A frontal kick to the knee, rabbit punch to the throat, open palm under the nose or a marathon groin kick would take this a-hole down in a flash. Then kick him in the head...and get the hell outta' there.

It's nearly inevitable with tempers this high.


One of the advantages of my son not reenlisting are the holds he is teaching me in case a liberal decides to test his mettle. Choke holds, pressure points, throws, dehibilitating moves...cool stuff.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: warpmine on February 24, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
Ironic isn't it. An entire population revolts on the premise of individual liberty and these asshats are diehards for collectivization. This whole mindset is in direct opposition to the constitution with everything it stands for. If we aren't successful in breaking these union thugs then we're heading for war against socialists that have basically have been living and breeding from the table we set for them at our expense. If the American people are so apathetic toward their cause then why aren't they in the unions themselves? Just asking. Ignorance is bliss
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Glock32 on February 24, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
I think we should deny them the "romanticism" of their vernacular, and start referring to them as counterrevolutionaries. Because they are indeed the enemies of the American Revolution. They're the reactionary advocates of Old World statism.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 24, 2011, 03:19:03 PM
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At one time, I would have exempted teachers from that generality, but from what goes on in the schools today re:  zero tolerance engendering criminal records for kids and the lockstop, leftist propaganda willfully imposed on students, I'll no longer do so.

Living in the belly of the beast so long, my recognition of the innate malevolence of the "teachers" union is perhaps a bit more keen. At any rate I've seen them go from merely scapegoating their personal and professional failures onto the kids to using them as the rhetoric equivalent of human shields. At the rate they are devolving I expect them to start using them literally any day now.

I don't necessarily have anything against any union members but I loathe the unions with every fiber of my being. I hope and pray that what we are witnessing is the crash & fall of the evil empire.

Good riddance to bad trash!
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 04:03:13 PM
...I don't necessarily have anything against any union members but I loathe the unions with every fiber of my being....

A lot of union members are just good hard-working folks who joined the union because it was prevalent in their field, and a lot of them support their union because it carries a force of numbers that brings them more money and more benefits. I get that. I don't blame any individual for using what is available to them to better their circumstances. It's kinda like how I don't blame people for doing everything they can to take advantage of the tax code. You use what mechanisms are available to increase your available money.

But the union entity is a force for evil. It uses corruption to bully and extort on behalf of those members until the offenses are so egregious that it becomes very hard to separate the actions of the union entity from the working people that support it. Even though most union people are just decent working people, they support an evil entity that uses evil to get them what they want for themselves. At some point, there's complicity and accountability, even among people you'd consider otherwise decent. I think we're seeing that accountability take root now.
Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 24, 2011, 04:18:10 PM

[Red Shirts]
With chants of "solidarity" and "hey, hey, ho, ho--union busting's got to go," about 500 people gathered inside the Rhode Island Statehouse Tuesday in a labor union-led show of support for Wisconsin' embattled public employees.
...
"We're here to stand in support of and in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in Wisconsin,"
...
[Roland Rivet of Glocester, R.I.]
"I'm here in solidarity with the Wisconsin workers — they're in hell right now," said Rivet, 69. "And if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere."

Title: Re: Thug at Work
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 24, 2011, 04:22:38 PM
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..."And if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere."

You got that right Bucko. And there are millions of Americans who intend to make sure that's exactly what happens.