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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #180 on: May 04, 2012, 07:48:18 AM »
Will not have it though till 2013, then even an expedited shakedown & trials schedule means it probably will not be deployable until mid-summer at the earliest.  You really don't want to do a "quick & dirty" job of it if nukes are loaded.  The Persian Incursion could be history by then.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #181 on: May 07, 2012, 10:22:18 PM »

Yesterday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for an early election for a new government Sept. 4.

"It is preferable to hold a short election campaign for four months that would enable us to quickly restore stability of our political system...", he said.

The official date would have been October 2013.  He called for the election in order to either solidify his position to avoid any second guessing in case any sudden event would require the nation to be
full square and unified in purpose.

Today:

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."


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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #182 on: May 07, 2012, 10:50:47 PM »
I don't know what their target priorities will be. I could make some assumptions...obviously the nuke stuff would be up there...probably right after the AA sites. I sure hope that they take out their one and only oil refinery and all of their gasoline import facilities...let the Iranians walk.

Oh, and I hope they take out all of their communications and electrical grid.

Welcome to the dark ages.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #183 on: May 07, 2012, 11:12:09 PM »

Runways and air assets.  Ground assets such as tanks and all logistical assets.
All barracks and boots.  Dark ages? Yeah, their buddies to the east will be more than accommodating.


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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #184 on: May 08, 2012, 02:40:39 AM »

Runways and air assets.  Ground assets such as tanks and all logistical assets.
All barracks and boots.  Dark ages? Yeah, their buddies to the east will be more than accommodating.



They don't have enough air-power ( or conventional ordinance ) to get all of that done .

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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #185 on: May 08, 2012, 07:24:42 AM »
I'm with SH on this, they have neither the assets or the time to do the Grand Tour of Persia, the nuke sites are the priority...and there are enough of them to make the job tough enough, and most are underground in hardened bunkers built by Germans who know a thing or two about bunkers.

They got some tough nuts to crack, and they'll throw everything they have to crack 'em.  They'll have to do some suppression and disruption going in and cover action during egress...and I think if they work a deal with the Saudi's and other interested parties in the Gulf they'll get much of the support they need.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #186 on: May 08, 2012, 08:33:08 PM »

If the Saudi's had the balls of bedouins their planes would
be up and assisting.  If you want to rule the region, rule it.

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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #187 on: May 11, 2012, 12:43:32 PM »
Israel NOT invited to NATO summit in Chicago

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Israel will not be invited to NATO's May 20-21 summit in Chicago, the alliance's top official said Friday. But he denied that alliance member Turkey had blocked Israel's participation.

Instead, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the reason is because Israel does not participate in NATO's main military missions.

So I wonder if this is 'punishment' for Israel's preparations against Iran...

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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #188 on: May 11, 2012, 02:45:47 PM »
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Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.
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« Reply #189 on: May 11, 2012, 07:23:34 PM »
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Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.

Link:

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."

The US is a long way from voluntary agreement such as this.


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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #190 on: May 12, 2012, 09:28:51 AM »
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Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.

Link:

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."

The US is a long way from voluntary agreement such as this.


Netanyahu already knows Duh Won has no balls and is irrelevant.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #191 on: May 13, 2012, 06:37:06 PM »
Bibi knew that from the get-go, he is doing what he has to.  Just like we are.   ;)
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #192 on: May 14, 2012, 11:53:48 AM »
Interesting!

The U.S. Navy has ordered several dozen more expendable SeaFox UUVs (unmanned underwater vehicles). These are used to destroy bottom mines (which sit on the seabed). These UUVs are being sent to the Persian Gulf to deal with potential Iranian use of naval miles. The new Seafox UUVs will be used on additional Avenger mine hunting ships being sent to the Persian Gulf.
http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx

Four of the Avengers are already based out of Bahrain.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #194 on: May 17, 2012, 08:28:01 AM »
Achmedisajerk wants to come out and play!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/155896

Obliterate the bastard!
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #195 on: May 17, 2012, 11:27:03 AM »
I didn't know Bibi's father recently passed away...102, heck of a run!

I have to say for a Reuters article is less offensive than most.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/17/us-israel-iran-idUSBRE84G0UC20120517
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #196 on: May 17, 2012, 03:41:09 PM »

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx

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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #197 on: May 18, 2012, 07:41:10 AM »
Yeah, and this is just the devices we know about, and the full capabilities are almost always much more than we think.  I think we got clubs in the bag that the Persians have no hope of overcoming.  But our job is actually the easy part - contain the damage and keep the sea lanes open, Israel has the tough job of knocking out hardened underground nuke sites and suppressing defenses.  And I think we are much closer to action than people think.  This thing is going to happen before the end of summer, I just don't see it getting postponed much longer.
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Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
« Reply #199 on: June 04, 2012, 02:04:34 AM »
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AFP – 9 hours ago - Israel is arming submarines supplied and largely financed by Germany with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, influential German news weekly Der Spiegel reports in its issue to be published on Monday.


The United States is the Great Satan and Israel is the Little Satan, does this make Germany the Satans acolyte?

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