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Topics => History => Topic started by: rustybayonet on January 09, 2014, 07:51:52 AM
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I'll post one per day if any interest;
Two part question -- Name the President with the longest and the President with the shortest Inaugural Addresses.......
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Longest has to be Obama. He never shuts up.
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What about that dude way back when that keeled over shortly after giving his?
Harrison, William Henry. Defintely the shortest time in office!
Shortest innaugural address? I'll guess Coolidge, he always seemed concise and not prone to bullshyt to me.
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Libertas - William Henry Harrison was the shortest time in office. But he was not the president with the shortest inaugural address and neither was Calvin Coolidge.
Septugenarian - The current white house occupant was not the longest.
William Henry Harrison was the longest - his address was given on a terrible day, cold sleet,snow - he was not wearing a top coat, just suit and tie -when he went on and on. Caught cold, it turned to pneumonia and he died 30 days later.
The shortest was George Washington for his second term.
William H. Harrison ---- 8,445 words [longest]
George Washington ---- 135 words for 2nd term
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Since it's not a presidential question but still trivial, who is the only person to witness 3 presidential assassinations? ::popcorn::
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Robert Todd Lincoln - President Lincolns son. Presidents Lincoln, Garfield and McKinley, although he was jusrt at the expo when McKinley was shot.
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Yah, my reply was far from serious. To me his blatherings are eternal.
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Yah, my reply was far from serious. To me his blatherings are eternal.
I'm glad I finished my research before he made it into office. Don't know that I can do an update for the grandkids about him and be subjective.
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Yah, my reply was far from serious. To me his blatherings are eternal.
I'm glad I finished my research before he made it into office. Don't know that I can do an update for the grandkids about him and be subjective.
You could start by saying he has trouble with honesty.
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What about that dude way back when that keeled over shortly after giving his?
Harrison, William Henry. Defintely the shortest time in office!
Shortest innaugural address? I'll guess Coolidge, he always seemed concise and not prone to bullshyt to me.
True
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What about that dude way back when that keeled over shortly after giving his?
Sorry I missed this question earlier. President in question was John Quincy Adams. He had been a bad president from 1825-1829, but was a good congressman from 1830 - 1848. Right after giving a speech on the house floor he collapsed having a stroke on Feb. 21, 1848 and died 2 days later.
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2nd Quiz Question;
What do the years 1841 and 1881 both have in common?
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1, 8 & 1. ::rimshot::
Easy - Only Presidents to have officially died in the White House - Harrison & Garfield (latter brought there after being shot).
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Only partially right Libertas. Do you know the rest of the story?
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Only partially right Libertas. Do you know the rest of the story?
Do tell, Paul Harvey. ::hysterical::
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Only partially right Libertas. Do you know the rest of the story?
Do tell, Paul Harvey. ::hysterical::
Yep - and no offense taken to tongue in cheek about rest of the story ::popcorn::, but he was my favorite commentator. Sadly dying Feb. 28, 2009. Remember his 'Devil' commentary?
If I Were the Devil: Paul Harvey (Warning for a Nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJc8Mzg0C-c#ws)
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Only partially right Libertas. Do you know the rest of the story?
Do tell, Paul Harvey. ::hysterical::
Yep - and no offense taken to tongue in cheek about rest of the story ::popcorn::, but he was my favorite commentator. Sadly dying Feb. 28, 2009. Remember his 'Devil' commentary?
If I Were the Devil: Paul Harvey (Warning for a Nation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJc8Mzg0C-c#ws)
Sure do. Rather foreboding.
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Only partially right Libertas. Do you know the rest of the story?
I'll stick with the partial credit...my mind must be too battered from year-end close shenannigans to tickle any more trivia from it...
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Answer for #2
1841 and 1881 are the only two years that the United States had 3 Presidents, each in the same year.
1841 --- Martin VanBuren --------- outgoing
William Henry Harrison --- incoming and died in office 30 days into presidency
John Tyler ---------------became president after Harrison's death
1881 --- Rutherford B. Hayes ---- outing
James Garfield ----------- assasinated
Chester Arthur ---------- became president after Garfield's death
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Question #3
Three out of the first 5 Presidents have something else in common, besides being President, what was it?
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Question #3
Three out of the first 5 Presidents have something else in common, besides being President, what was it?
Adams, Jefferson, and Monroe all died on the 4th of July. What do I win?
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Question #3
Three out of the first 5 Presidents have something else in common, besides being President, what was it?
Adams, Jefferson, and Monroe all died on the 4th of July. What do I win?
You won the first attaboy - I'm carving your certifacte now.
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#4
What else do these 14 former presidents have in common?
G. Washington - J. Monroe - A. Jackson - J. Polk - J. Buchanan - A. Johnson - J. Garfield - W. McKinley - T. Roosevelt - W. Taft - W. Harding - F. Roosevelt - H. Truman - G. Ford
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#4
What else do these 14 former presidents have in common?
G. Washington - J. Monroe - A. Jackson - J. Polk - J. Buchanan - A. Johnson - J. Garfield - W. McKinley - T. Roosevelt - W. Taft - W. Harding - F. Roosevelt - H. Truman - G. Ford
They were all presidents?
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#4
What else do these 14 former presidents have in common?
G. Washington - J. Monroe - A. Jackson - J. Polk - J. Buchanan - A. Johnson - J. Garfield - W. McKinley - T. Roosevelt - W. Taft - W. Harding - F. Roosevelt - H. Truman - G. Ford
They were all presidents?
Good guess, what gave it away? ::laughonfloor::
Anyway now I will tell you there was something else that they did. ::thumbsup::
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Good q's rusty. Don't think I knew any of em, but I like this stuff.
As far as Coolidge, my favorite anecdote is about "silent Cal". You've prob heard this...
Known for being less than talkative, someone told him that he, the someone, made a bet with a friend and could get Coolidge to say three words, to which Coolidge replied, "You lose!"
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#4.... Tough, but I won't cheat.
Lets see, not a single term, not even 2 terms.
I wanna say all attended Yale, b/c iirc Ford did, but so did W, so that's not it.
Several served in the military, but not all...
I'd say they were all born east of the Mississippi, but then there would be more...
Probably don't have the same # of letters in their names...
Most aren't on money...
Too ,any for mt Rushmore...
Hmmm, something they DID?!?! As in a post they held or an act they performed?
Still thinking buti don't mind if you issue a spoiler.
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Yes Dan I also have heard that. If memory serves it was a reporter at a dinner.
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I think they were all Masons.
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This is fun.
I haven't known any of the answers although I did know a couple of the facts
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2nd attaboy to CG - yep both were Mason's, nad a side note; Harry Truman was the Grand Master Mason of Missouri and attended all meetings while campaining.
#5 Name the two states in order, that have had the most Presidents elected from them.
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My Guess would be Virginia and Ohio.
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I would go with CHF on this
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I would go with CHF on this
Without google, I agree.
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You folks are getting to good - all three got it.
Virginia has sent 8 and Ohio 7
#6 Shortly after leaving office; which president was declared a sworn enemy of the United States?
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You folks are getting to good - all three got it.
Virginia has sent 8 and Ohio 7
#6 Shortly after leaving office; which president was declared a sworn enemy of the United States?
Should have made it "Could have been declared a sworn enemy of the U.S." The list would be a lot longer.
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You folks are getting to good - all three got it.
Virginia has sent 8 and Ohio 7
#6 Shortly after leaving office; which president was declared a sworn enemy of the United States?
Should have made it "Could have been declared a sworn enemy of the U.S." The list would be a lot longer.
Agreed on that Alan, but this former president was.
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That was John Tyler, Rusty.
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Once again OC got it.
He was from the south and after his presidency he went home ran for office in the Confederate Congress, won and did what he could to help defeat the union, therefore the desclaration against him, which was overlook after his death Jan. 18, 1862.
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# 7
Name the president that had the most states enter the union during his administration.
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# 7
Name the president that had the most states enter the union during his administration.
Tough...memory problems here and it somewhat depends on definitions. Either Washington, when 13 states joined the Union or Abraham Lincoln, when the Confederacy was dissolved and those states were taken back into the Union. The really tough question would be who is third and I would guess Monroe, but Lincoln was probably in the running that way too, as states were added by the Union during the civil war to gain assets for the war. Good question, Rusty. I am eager for the answer.
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# 7
Name the president that had the most states enter the union during his administration.
Tough...memory problems here and it somewhat depends on definitions. Either Washington, when 13 states joined the Union or Abraham Lincoln, when the Confederacy was dissolved and those states were taken back into the Union. The really tough question would be who is third and I would guess Monroe, but Lincoln was probably in the running that way too, as states were added by the Union during the civil war to gain assets for the war. Good question, Rusty. I am eager for the answer.
Good insight, althought George Washington was elected from citizens of states already forming the union. Even though he was elected president of colonies forming the country prior to official election, the original 13 were already states, by his inauguration of March 4, 1789. As far as Lincoln and the Civil War ciceded states. Because they were already states before the war and then after the union won, they were re-admitted and not considered new states.
Now answering #7 --- Benjamin H. Harrison had 6 states join the union during his presidency; -
North Dakota and South Dakota, - Nov. 2, 1889
Montana --- Nov. 8, 1889
Washington - Nov. 11, 1889
Idaho ----- July 3, 1890
Wyoming --July 10,1890
George Washington did have - 5 / also J. Monroe had - 5
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Up earlier than expected for work.
#8 Which President had the most children? [should I add legitimate - ::rolllaughing::]
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Counting slaves? Maybe Jefferson?! LOL!
Counting knocked up bimbos you don't even know about? Probably Slick Willie!
Off the cuff guess - Polk. Why, I dunno...didn't them oldtimer Scots/Irish guys all sire large broods?
ETA - Question: Why is this here and not in History? ::saywhat::
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Counting slaves? Maybe Jefferson?! LOL!
Counting knocked up bimbos you don't even know about? Probably Slick Willie!
Off the cuff guess - Polk. Why, I dunno...didn't them oldtimer Scots/Irish guys all sire large broods?
ETA - Question: Why is this here and not in History? ::saywhat::
Moving to History, crabby-puss. :-*
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Answer to #8 ----- Sorry Libertas, neither of your guesses were correct.
John Tyler still holds the record at 15.
Mary - Robert - John Jr. - Letitlia - Elizabeth - Anne Contesse - Alice - Tazewell - David Gardiner - John Alexander - Julia Gardiner - Lachlan - Lyon Gardiner - Robert Fitzwalter - Pearl
His first wife Letitlia died in 1842, they had 8, in 1844 he married Julia Gardiner who gave him the last 7.
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Question # 9 a two part
Which former president has a natural national place named after him?
And the second part;
How many prominent American cities can you name that are named after former presidents?
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After reading about Tyler, I think he should be added to my list of great Presidents!
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Counting slaves? Maybe Jefferson?! LOL!
Counting knocked up bimbos you don't even know about? Probably Slick Willie!
Off the cuff guess - Polk. Why, I dunno...didn't them oldtimer Scots/Irish guys all sire large broods?
ETA - Question: Why is this here and not in History? ::saywhat::
Moving to History, crabby-puss. :-*
Didn't mean to be crabby...I'm an accountant by profession and a stickler by nature, which means I got in the picky line twice! ;D
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Answer to #8 ----- Sorry Libertas, neither of your guesses were correct.
John Tyler still holds the record at 15.
Mary - Robert - John Jr. - Letitlia - Elizabeth - Anne Contesse - Alice - Tazewell - David Gardiner - John Alexander - Julia Gardiner - Lachlan - Lyon Gardiner - Robert Fitzwalter - Pearl
His first wife Letitlia died in 1842, they had 8, in 1844 he married Julia Gardiner who gave him the last 7.
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Question # 9 a two part
Which former president has a natural national place named after him?
And the second part;
How many prominent American cities can you name that are named after former presidents?
Dang, Tyler would have been my second choice...can we make this multiple choice? ;D
Cities after Presidents? Ufda! Is who isn't a shorter list? I know the Columbia Heights/Northeast (Nordeast) area of the Twin Cities here has a boatload of 'em just there alone.
Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Monroe, Quincy (Adams), Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanon, Lincoln, Johnson, Ulysses (Grant), Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Delano (Roosevelt), Kennedy.
There is a Clinton but it has to be somebody other than Slick Willie...right? Right?
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Answer to #8 ----- Sorry Libertas, neither of your guesses were correct.
John Tyler still holds the record at 15.
Mary - Robert - John Jr. - Letitlia - Elizabeth - Anne Contesse - Alice - Tazewell - David Gardiner - John Alexander - Julia Gardiner - Lachlan - Lyon Gardiner - Robert Fitzwalter - Pearl
His first wife Letitlia died in 1842, they had 8, in 1844 he married Julia Gardiner who gave him the last 7.
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Question # 9 a two part
Which former president has a natural national place named after him?
And the second part;
How many prominent American cities can you name that are named after former presidents?
Dang, Tyler would have been my second choice...can we make this multiple choice? ;D
Cities after Presidents? Ufda! Is who isn't a shorter list? I know the Columbia Heights/Northeast (Nordeast) area of the Twin Cities here has a boatload of 'em just there alone.
Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Monroe, Quincy (Adams), Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanon, Lincoln, Johnson, Ulysses (Grant), Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Delano (Roosevelt), Kennedy.
There is a Clinton but it has to be somebody other than Slick Willie...right? Right?
The only city you named not named after a president is Cleveland;
As one of thirty-six founders of the Connecticut Land Company, General Moses Cleaveland was selected as one of its seven directors and was subsequently sent out as the company's agent to map and survey the company's holdings. On July 22, 1796, Cleaveland and his surveyors arrived at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River.......The spelling of the city's name was changed in 1831 by The Cleveland Advertiser, an early city newspaper. In order for the name to fit on newspaper's masthead,[citation needed] the first "a" was dropped, reducing the city's name to Cleveland. Another account is that the spelling changes came from an error on a surveyor's map.[citation needed] The new spelling stuck, and long outlasted the Advertiser itself.
The first part of question about natural national place is -- Mt. McKinley in Alaska
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Answer to #8 ----- Sorry Libertas, neither of your guesses were correct.
John Tyler still holds the record at 15.
Mary - Robert - John Jr. - Letitlia - Elizabeth - Anne Contesse - Alice - Tazewell - David Gardiner - John Alexander - Julia Gardiner - Lachlan - Lyon Gardiner - Robert Fitzwalter - Pearl
His first wife Letitlia died in 1842, they had 8, in 1844 he married Julia Gardiner who gave him the last 7.
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Question # 9 a two part
Which former president has a natural national place named after him?
And the second part;
How many prominent American cities can you name that are named after former presidents?
Dang, Tyler would have been my second choice...can we make this multiple choice? ;D
Cities after Presidents? Ufda! Is who isn't a shorter list? I know the Columbia Heights/Northeast (Nordeast) area of the Twin Cities here has a boatload of 'em just there alone.
Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Monroe, Quincy (Adams), Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanon, Lincoln, Johnson, Ulysses (Grant), Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Delano (Roosevelt), Kennedy.
There is a Clinton but it has to be somebody other than Slick Willie...right? Right?
The only city you named not named after a president is Cleveland;
As one of thirty-six founders of the Connecticut Land Company, General Moses Cleaveland was selected as one of its seven directors and was subsequently sent out as the company's agent to map and survey the company's holdings. On July 22, 1796, Cleaveland and his surveyors arrived at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River.......The spelling of the city's name was changed in 1831 by The Cleveland Advertiser, an early city newspaper. In order for the name to fit on newspaper's masthead,[citation needed] the first "a" was dropped, reducing the city's name to Cleveland. Another account is that the spelling changes came from an error on a surveyor's map.[citation needed] The new spelling stuck, and long outlasted the Advertiser itself.
The first part of question about natural national place is -- Mt. McKinley in Alaska
::facepalm::
My brainfart! I was thinking streets not cities! See what this messy commute did to my noodle! I knew we were talking about cities not streets yet I plowed ahead wrongly anyway.
Jeesh, some people! :o
Oh, and "national place" you mean national park, monument, etc, right?
There is a Mt Washington in Maine I think, I guess named after George (maybe back when most of Maine was part of Massachusettes?) but it is not a "national place" I don't think.
There is Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota. Only one fitting that category I can recall off the top of my head...probably because I have been there!
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I'm bad - should have said name a natural national place. As you pointed out there are more than one.
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I'm still learning here. ::cool::
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Question #10
Has the month and date of elected Presidents inauguration changed, and if so why?
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The 20th Amendment moved the date up, but I don't remember when it originally was. Sometime in March I think.
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The 20th Amendment moved the date up, but I don't remember when it originally was. Sometime in March I think.
That was quick, but you only get a partial attaboy;
George Washington's 1st was held on April 30, 1789 his second March 4, 1793. March 4th remained the date until F. D. Roosevelt was sworn in on Jan. 20, 1937 for his second term, and has remained that since. [ Making Washington {April & March}and Roosevelt {March & Jan} the only two elected president sworn in, in different months]. And now the exception - When any of the dates fall on Sunday inauguration is held the next day.
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#11 ---- Name the only president sworn in by his father.
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Obvious guesses would be either John Quincy Adams or George W. Bush. I'm pretty sure it's not Bush, or there would have been some pretty memorable pictures/video that I have no recollection of.
Then again, those guesses are so obvious that neither is probably correct.
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Silent Cal
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Silent Cal
Another attaboy -----
Calvin Coolidge was notified while at his fathers house at night, in Vermont. Since they didn't have a phone he walked across town to call DC and verify it. Then walked back to his fathers house, where his Justice of the Peace father administered the oath of office. The next day he headed back to DC and after arriving congress worried that being sworn in by his father and a lowly JofP may not be legal, he was sworn in again by the Chief Justice.
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#12 This president may have been the role model for the movie "DAVE" -- who was he?
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I didn't see "Dave", so I'm shooting in the dark. Kennedy?
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Clinton.
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#12 This president may have been the role model for the movie "DAVE" -- who was he?
That depends on which "president" you mean...the actual president who went into a coma and then died or the fake president?
The actual president was a philandering asshole who was totally in the bag for big business and was indifferent to the poor...obviously a Republican from H'wood's POV. The fake president was a common sense moderate who fell in love with the first lady and helped her pass liberal social policy...obviously a wise, kind and compassionate Democrat.
It was filmed and released during the Clinton admin but neither of the characters completely resembles him.
According to wikipedia the screenwriter wrote the script while working on the Dukakis campaign.
So...
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I avoid obvious libiot movies so I have no clue, and from Trap's narrative I probably made the right choice.
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Very close Trap--- only thing missing was real president...
Answer #12 The president that was the role model based on actual history is Woodrow Wilson[WW].
Both W.W. and the movie president Bill Mitchell [WM]had serious strokes [different causes]
Both WW and WM were put in hiding; WW in the private quarters of the White House, WM in
a 'bunker area in the basement of the White House.
The movie version president and imposture [played by Kevin Kline] and WW resembled each other.
For WW and movie president WM were completely hidden away except for very few, and policies
from the pres. came from others.
Many other comparisions are made in the movie, but can be seen if viewing the movie.
Kevin Kline as Dave Kovic/President William Harrison (Bill) Mitchell
Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Mitchell
Frank Langella as Bob Alexander
Kevin Dunn as Alan Reed
Ving Rhames as Duane Stevensen
Dave (6/10) Movie CLIP - Balancing the Budget (1993) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZARAldXlSyA#ws)
This one would not transfer for viewing here, go to this site for viewing.
http://www.biography.com/people/woodrow-wilson-9534272 (http://www.biography.com/people/woodrow-wilson-9534272)
Wikipedia has a very good review of the movie also. There version of WW as usual has a democratic slant and is mostly based a his entire career with very little about the stroke, IMO.
this is a good narative of his health before and after the stroke;
http://www.healthmedialab.com/html/president/wilson.html (http://www.healthmedialab.com/html/president/wilson.html)
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#13 Can you match these Presidents with there 'vacations'? [hint-may or may not have really been a vacation, but that is what it was referred to as].
1. James Madison
2. John Adams
3. Thomas Jefferson
4. Chester Arthur
5. Grover Cleveland
6. Dwight Eisenhower
7. Bill Clinton
8. Ronald Reagan
9. Jimmy Carter
10. George Bush
Choices;
a. Runner Up
b. It's Cancer Sir
c. The Longest Vacation
d. His Mysterious Vacations
e. The ranch
f. The margin of error is plus or minus two points
g. The shortest
h. Vacations aren't good for you
i. Seven months on the farm
j. Working vacation
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Beat me to it, Rusty. I'll post this anyway. Which president was known as Uncle Jumbo?
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1. James Madison - Montpelier
2. John Adams - Seven months on the farm (Quincy)
3. Thomas Jefferson - Monticello
4. Chester Arthur - Manahattan somewhere?
5. Grover Cleveland - No idea
6. Dwight Eisenhower - Heck if I know
7. Bill Clinton - Whorehouse
8. Ronald Reagan - The Ranch
9. Jimmy Carter - Peanut farm/nut hatch
10. George Bush - Kennebunkport or Crawford?
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Beat me to it, Rusty. I'll post this anyway. Which president was known as Uncle Jumbo?
Grover Cleveland
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1. James Madison - Montpelier
2. John Adams - Seven months on the farm (Quincy)
3. Thomas Jefferson - Monticello
4. Chester Arthur - Manahattan somewhere?
5. Grover Cleveland - No idea
6. Dwight Eisenhower - Heck if I know
7. Bill Clinton - Whorehouse
8. Ronald Reagan - The Ranch
9. Jimmy Carter - Peanut farm/nut hatch
10. George Bush - Kennebunkport or Crawford?
Libertas - not bad- 7 out of the 10
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Answers for #13
1 -- c Madison return home for for months June 1816 to October [travel slower then] ;D
2 -- i When John Adams' wife got sick, he return home to care for her for 7 months. No other
president has been gone from the white house for that continuous length of time.
3 -- a Jefferson set the precedent for long vacations - July to October, But Madison after him
improved on it [see above].
4 -- d C. Arthur developed a kidney disorder [Bright's disease which eventually killed him]. the
then swampy DC area made it worse, so he went to Florida which almost killed him, so on
the New York to recover, not telling anyone[1st pres. to lie about his health]. When he
returned after losing weight, some didn't recognize him.
5 -- b Grover ClevelandDeveloped cancer in his mouth and jaw. For surgery [without press
hounding] he went aboard a specially equipped yacht at sea. It was further developed
that thought so part of his eye socket also had to be replaced along with some of the
jaw. It was kept quite until the Dr. wrote a journal article after his death.
6 --h Eisenhower took his first vacation in 1949 after the war. While there he had a mild heart
attack, then during his terms in office while on his second vacation had a second attack,
leading to his saying "vacations aren't good for you".
7 --f Clinton had most of his vacations on Martha's Vineyard, but one year Dick Morris told him
it would look better in the polls to go elsewhere - he did [1995 and 1996 Jackson Hole,
Wyoming] and it didn't. [ Monica story was starting to break]
8 --e Reagan -big surprise during his two terms he spent 335 days total at his California ranch.
9 --g Carter told the least time for vacations 79 days total during his 4 year term, all but one
spent at the peanut farm in Georgia. [that one lives in history funny facts, while rafting
out west, the story goes he was attacked by a rabbit when they came ashore].
10 --j Another big surprise, George Bush went either to his folks place in Maine or to his ranch in
Crawford, Texas. By August 3, 2005 he had spent a total of 319 days of his
administration on his "working vacations".
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Question #14
What is the history of Presidential salaries - amounts and dates?
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6 --h Eisenhower took his first vacation in 1949 after the war. While there he had a mild heart
attack, then during his terms in office while on his second vacation had a second attack,
leading to his saying "vacations aren't good for you".
But he did like to golf often, but unlike the current occupant, he didn't have to cheat nor go as often!
9 --g Carter told the least time for vacations 79 days total during his 4 year term, all but one
spent at the peanut farm in Georgia. [that one lives in history funny facts, while rafting
out west, the story goes he was attacked by a rabbit when they came ashore].
Wow. So many comments to be made! When nature's lowliest creatures turn on ya, it's really over!
I guess he forgot the Holy Handgrenade!
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Question #14
What is the history of Presidential salaries - amounts and dates?
Off the top of my head? I dunno...I know it was paltry at first...and then wasn't it under Bush or Clinton that it was capped at like $250k/year? I thought it was less under Reagan. Probably indexed somehow now and linked to spending bills for federal workers.
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Sorry again Libertas, but answers to #14 missed the mark again.
From 1789 to 1873 the presidents salary was $25,000.00
From 1873 to 1909 it was $50,000.00
1909 it was raised to $75,000.00
In 1949 Raised again to $100,000.00 + $50,000.00 non-taxable expense account
1964 the non taxable expense account became taxable
in 1969 Salary increased to $200,000.00 with same expense account taxable
1979 taxable became non-taxable again
2001 Salary increased to $400,000.00 expense account removed - still in effect.
2011 Salary remains same - $50,000.00 non taxable expense re-instated
Side note for rest of congress and judiciary
VP $230,700.00 + $10,000.00 Non tax-able expense account
Speak of the House and Chief Justice ---- $223,500.00
Majority and Minority Leaders -- $193,400.00
House Reps and Senators -- $174,000.00 + they can earn up to $27,225.00 outside income
Associate Justice -- $213,900.00
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Question #15 -- Who was the last former President to recieved Secret Service protection for life, and what was it changed to?
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Question #15 -- Who was the last former President to recieved Secret Service protection for life, and what was it changed to?
I gotta weigh in somewhere....
My guess (and it's just a guess) is Klintoon and the new rule is ten years.
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I think not. It was changed and Obongo changed it back -- or Congress did.
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I think not. It was changed and Obongo changed it back -- or Congress did.
That would make sense. They didn't give a crap when it was GW but you know they gotta circle the wagons on their ØbaMessiah.
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With the SecSvc off getting drunk and laid by hookers so often, not sure government guys would be wanted! ::hysterical::
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Attaboys - we have multiples today.
Good going guys - my first post on this was based on facts before 44 took office when I finished research, and I had not heard about the reinstatement, so you got me on this one. ::facepalm:: ::bashing::
Congress took it away and replaced it with 10 years protection making Clinton the last to receive lifetime protection, but last year the thing at 1600 Pennslyvania Ave signed the bill that reinstated the life time protection, so Bush now has it.
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Attaboys - we have multiples today.
Good going guys - my first post on this was based on facts before 44 took office when I finished research, and I had not heard about the reinstatement, so you got me on this one. ::facepalm:: ::bashing::
Congress took it away and replaced it with 10 years protection making Clinton the last to receive lifetime protection, but last year the thing at 1600 Pennslyvania Ave signed the bill that reinstated the life time protection, so Bush now has it.
And I hope it's killing him, too, knowing that.
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Attaboys - we have multiples today.
Good going guys - my first post on this was based on facts before 44 took office when I finished research, and I had not heard about the reinstatement, so you got me on this one. ::facepalm:: ::bashing::
Congress took it away and replaced it with 10 years protection making Clinton the last to receive lifetime protection, but last year the thing at 1600 Pennslyvania Ave signed the bill that reinstated the life time protection, so Bush now has it.
And I hope it's killing him, too, knowing that.
Agreed, but we all know the only person he was thinking about was himself.
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Sorry so late, but had to work late.
Question # 16 This President inauguration was the first to be photographed. Who was he?
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Answer #16 - Even though no takers --- The President in question was James Buchanan.
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Answer #16 - Even though no takers --- The President in question was James Buchanan.
For the record, my best guess was Abraham Lincoln, so I was flatly wrong. I knew he had a famous presidential photographer, but I did suspect I was wrong, which is why I did not give my answer. I am LOVING the thread though. Please keep it up. Even when I do not have the courage to give my guess, it makes me think and I appreciate it.
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I suspected Buchanan solely on the time frame.
I think Lincoln's photographer may have been Matthew Brady
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Question #17 ---
The oath of office is taken with a hand on the Bible opened to a passage of the President-Elects choice. Which book of the Bible is used most often by Presidents?
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I'd hazard a guess it might be Psalms. But lets see what other folks might think.
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Libertas -- well ::danceban:: ::lalanotlistening:: ATTABOY -- Psalms it is ::whoohoo::
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Question #18
This President recommended a constitutional amendment setting a term of six years for the presidency and forbidding re-election. Who was he?
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#18 - Sounds a bit goofy Rusty...and I detect something I cannot fully explain that makes me bark out Teddy Roosevelt as my guess.
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Question #18
This President recommended a constitutional amendment setting a term of six years for the presidency and forbidding re-election. Who was he?
I would guess Monroe.
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Washington?
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Jefferson was the first to suggest term limits, but I don't know about the 6-year length of a term.
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Jefferson was the first to suggest term limits, but I don't know about the 6-year length of a term.
Jefferson was paranoid that Washington would elevate himself to emperor. He ws envious of Washington's influence and ran a rumor mill designed to diminish Washington's reputation - the first employment of "yellow journalism".
Then he had no problem serving two terms himself. Sort of a "do as I say, not as I do" that he was famous for.
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Answer to #18 Sorry folks but all guess' were wrong, Rutherford B. Hayes was the President in question. But; you hit the nail on the head about Jefferson...
Jefferson was the first to suggest term limits, but I don't know about the 6-year length of a term.
Jefferson was paranoid that Washington would elevate himself to emperor. He ws envious of Washington's influence and ran a rumor mill designed to diminish Washington's reputation - the first employment of "yellow journalism".
Then he had no problem serving two terms himself. Sort of a "do as I say, not as I do" that he was famous for.
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OK, so I didn't (don't!) doubt you and I won't use the Internet to game my guesses but I was curious about this one so I did a quick search. The first hit was this page: http://www.republicanpresidents.net/10-interesting-facts-about-rutherford-hayes/ (http://www.republicanpresidents.net/10-interesting-facts-about-rutherford-hayes/)
It also listed some other interesting factoids about Hayes (I didn't know a single one!:
10 Interesting Facts About Rutherford Hayes
10. First presidential telephone
President Hayes was the first president to use a telephone while in office. It was installed in the White House in 1879 by none other than Alexander Graham Bell.
9. Multiple Civil War wounds
Hayes was one of five presidents who served in the Civil War, but he was the only one to be wounded in the war. He was wounded on four occasions and had four horses shot from under him.
8. Not in the White House
Hayes’ wife Lucy banned dancing, smoking, alcohol and card playing from the White House. Lucy came to be known as “Lemonade Lucy” for her decision to not serve any alcohol.
7. Hayes started a White House tradition
Hayes and his wife conducted the very first Easter egg roll on the White House lawn. It began a tradition that continues today on the Monday after Easter.
6. First president to go west
Hayes was the first president to visit the West Coast while in office. He visited San Francisco on September 8, 1880.
5. Allowed women in the courtroom
Hayes signed legislation that allowed women to plead cases before the Supreme Court.
4. Hayes won by one vote
Hayes lost the popular vote by about 250,000 but won the electoral vote by one vote.
3. A Congressional commission decided Hayes’ election
The Election of 1876 was highly controversial. The electoral votes from four states were contested and a Congressional commission had to be set up to resolve the dispute. The bi-partisan commission granted the disputed electoral votes to Hayes, giving him the presidency by one vote.
2. Hayes was sworn in secretly
Because of the bitter controversy of Hayes’ election, the Republicans were worried that the opposing party may try to derail his inauguration. He became the first president to be given the oath of office inside the White House. This occurred in a secret ceremony in the Red Room. Later that same day, he took the oath publicly on the East Portico of the Capitol.
1. Hayes refused to run for a second term
Hayes proposed a one-term limit on the presidency coupled with a six year term. Although his proposal was never enacted, he still kept his pledge to not seek re-election in 1880.
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Alphabet Soup --
OK, so I didn't (don't!) doubt you and I won't use the Internet to game my guesses but I was curious about this one so I did a quick search. The first hit was this page:
I didn't get the question from that page, I have a section in my research from years ago that I put interesting trivia questions and answers. Some of the other points in that internet article you found are in my lists totaling about 50 pages, so I won't be giving you any of those questions. ::oldman:: ::danceban:: ::hysterical::
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Alphabet Soup --
OK, so I didn't (don't!) doubt you and I won't use the Internet to game my guesses but I was curious about this one so I did a quick search. The first hit was this page:
I didn't get the question from that page, I have a section in my research from years ago that I put interesting trivia questions and answers. Some of the other points in that internet article you found are in my lists totaling about 50 pages, so I won't be giving you any of those questions. ::oldman:: ::danceban:: ::hysterical::
You know - just as soon as I posted that I thought to myself "gosh, I hope none of those trivia points are part of his game"
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Alphabet Soup --
OK, so I didn't (don't!) doubt you and I won't use the Internet to game my guesses but I was curious about this one so I did a quick search. The first hit was this page:
I didn't get the question from that page, I have a section in my research from years ago that I put interesting trivia questions and answers. Some of the other points in that internet article you found are in my lists totaling about 50 pages, so I won't be giving you any of those questions. ::oldman:: ::danceban:: ::hysterical::
You know - just as soon as I posted that I thought to myself "gosh, I hope none of those trivia points are part of his game"
No sweat Alphabet Soup - I've got plenty to bore y'all with.
::laughonfloor::
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After reading that I recall his civil war wounds, and the "Lemonade Lucy" story is probably the most often cited tidbit from his presidency.
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Question # 19 [thought I posted last night - damn getting old is not for whimps, bad case of CRS].
This president was the first to deliver an inaugural address from the west front of the Capitol, facing the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Name the president.
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Facing a completed Lincoln Memorial?
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Facing a completed Lincoln Memorial?
Told ya so - see last post about 'old fingers', but it's now fixed. ::bows:: Not much, but only excuse I have. ::oldman:: ::exitstageleft::
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First one I think it could have been is Coolidge so I'll go with that.
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Answer to #19 /// May be hard to believe, but Ronald Reagan holds the distinction of being the first to deliver his inaugural address from the west front of the Capitol.
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Question # 20
Which President was the first to mention "crime" in his inaugural address and what did he blame?
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Again no takers - #20 Answer
Herbert Hoover was the president and his 'crime' meessage during his inaugural address concerned --illegal liquor.
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Question #21 --
This president stated during his inaugural address "We have more will than wallet", who was he?
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Again no takers - #20 Answer
Herbert Hoover was the president and his 'crime' meessage during his inaugural address concerned --illegal liquor.
Crap! I was thinking booze but didn't know who to guess! ::bashing::
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Question #21 --
This president stated during his inaugural address "We have more will than money", who was he?
Dang, these are tough! Sounds like a wartime or post-war President, or someone during bad economic times. FDR?
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Question #21 --
This president stated during his inaugural address "We have more will than money", who was he?
Sounds like something Truman would say.
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Question #21 --
This president stated during his inaugural address "We have more will than money", who was he?
Sounds like something Truman would say.
Agreed sounds like something Truman would have said, but sorry it wasn't him.
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I've come to the conclusion I know a little about the presidents, and but don't know jack squat about any of the inaugurations. ::bashing::
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Boy am I getting bad, old and bad terrible combination. In #21 substatute the word "money' with "wallet". I hang my head in shame ---
The answer is none other the - George Herbert Walker Bush, President #41 and #43 GWB's father.
Guess I need break time, to many hours at work covering for those off--- ::doh:: ::bashing:: ::speechless::
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No biggie, CRS bites us all in the hindquarters once in a while, relax and reset the system...we ain't going anywhere! ::thumbsup::
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Question #22
Who was the first President to be divorced?
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Reagan?
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Question #22
Who was the first President to be divorced?
From Reality? .......... I'd say Obama!
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That was fast Libertas - guess I'll have to get tougher questions -- ATTABOY
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Since Libertas got it so fast, lets try another one today.
Question #23
Name the two Presidents that were Vice-Presidents for two terms, but were elected President for only one full term.
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I know this one too, I'll let others take a stab.
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John Adams and Bush 41?
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ATTABOYS are starting to go to fast - way to go yankeestom
Guess I still need tougher questions; okay try this one----
#24 These two presidents had the same vice-president, can you name them?
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ATTABOYS are starting to go to fast - way to go yankeestom
Guess I still need tougher questions; okay try this one----
#24 These two presidents had the same vice-president, can you name them?
There's two answers to this one...
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both had George Clinton as Vice President
John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson both had John C. Calhoun as Vice President
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Of the two I might want to hang out with George over John...Calhoun had that wild hair and those crazy eyes!
And didn't Clinton serve as both a General under Washington and NY Governor at the same time? Not sure that has ever occured any other time.
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I don't know, George looks pretty crazy, too...
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/George-Clinton-nv01.jpg)
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Answer # 24 Another ATTABOY goes to Yankeestom.
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Y'all are getting to good - here comes the next one
Question #25 This president won with an astounding 80% turnout won a smaller margin of the popular vote but large margin of the electoral vote - who was he and what year?
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I think Reagan had the biggest electoral vote landslide in the 1984 election, but I have no idea what the turnout percentage was.
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FDR?
But not sure of year.
Or even sure it was FDR
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# 25 Both good guess but neither is correct. Those that you name had one or more of the parts but not totals, and none of them got 80%.
The president was William Henry Harrison and the date he was elected was 1840. As known from before, he took office in 1841 and only lived for 30 days, so it really was for nothing. His campaign is remembered as one of if not the first to use 'dirty slanderous' slogans and signs
[ spin]. Two of the adverse slogans against his opponent; : A First-Rate Second-Rate Man" and "Martin Van Ruin". He also handed out little bottles of 'hard' cider, with bottles shaped like log cabins. His supporters used the slogan "Old Tippecanoe and Tyler Too".
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Question #26 What president was accused of putting gaming tables in the White House, with taxpayer money?
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second no taker question -- John Quincey Adams was the president. He did put a 'pool table and chess set in, but some in congress didn't get the memo, I guess, because it was his own money the purchased the "gaming equipment". Sound familiar---?
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Question #27 Where was President Garfield assassinated?
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I think it was New York and want to say Buffalo.
Off the top of my head
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Fast answer AP, unfortunately not the right one - sorry
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At the Baltimore & Potomac Railroad Station in Washington, D.C.
I have no idea why I know this. ::whatgives::
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ATTABOY -- CG Now do you know who and why he did it, I thought it was interesting and really off base- [a sick individual]
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Maybe it was McKinley then?
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I cannot recall his name, but he was a communist agitator. I think a Russian or polish immigrant. One of those long Russian type names. His trial to his execution was 30 days or less, including all appeals. Now THAT is how justice is administered.
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I think his name was Charles Giteau (sp?)
He was an Anarchist, not a Communist.
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Answer for #27 Yes it was the train station in Washington DC, but as Paul Harvey would say - here's the rest of the story;
The assassin was Charles J. Guiteau and he used a .44 cal. British Bulldog pistol. Why is that entered, well because he thought "it would look good in a museum someday" sic; but it gets worse. Alexander Graham Bell tried to find the bullet in Garfield with an 'electrical device' he had invented, but it failed, so after weeks of laying in the White House with a mortal wound Garfield died. Then Guiteau wrote to then President Chester Arthur; "My inspiration is a godsent to you and I presume that you appreciate it.......never think of Garfields removal as a murder".
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Crap. Finally one I could have answered all parts and I'm too late. ::bashing::
I just finished reading a book on the very subject with all of the characters including Dr. Willard Bliss. Garfield suffered for 2 months after the shooting. The bullet itself wasn't life threatening, but Garfield eventually succumbed to infection from the doctors' (there were many who examined him) fingers probing the bullet hole.
Bliss had taken charge (for no apparent reason other than ego) and Garfield's death was a blow to his practice. Bliss denied any infection even though Garfield fielded all of the symptoms. The infection was discovered spread throughout Garfield's body when the autopsy was done.
Guiteau was a lunatic thought he would be praised as a hero for killing Garfield. Almost the whole time he was in prison, he expected A) the U.S. Army to come to his rescue or B) figured Chester A. Arthur would grant him a full pardon.
You could almost write a book on Guiteau's experiences.
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AlanS - Sorry about posting to soon, but a big thank you for filling out the entire tale of the assassination and the doctors screw ups. I try to condense because I can go on and on about most of this, so being afraid of creating bordom I summarize as much as possible. ::beertoast::
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Question #28
Who was the President when France presented the United States with the Statue of Liberty?
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I think we might be stumped Rusty...but I'll guess McKinley, why? I dunno...thing has to be over a 100 years old, don't it? ::whatgives::
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It was earlier, Libertas.
Didn't look it up but think we got it in 1876.
If so, I think it would be Hayes
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The Torch arm was on display in 1876 at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia, then moved to New York's Madison Square Park from 1876-1882. The rest was transport here in 350 pieces in 1885 during the presidency of Chester Arthur. America was to provide the pedestal and funding was slow until Joseph Pulitzer took the chair for funding getting about 120,00 donations of $1.00. With the pedestal finally finish reassembly was finally completed and President Grover Cleveland held the dedication on Oct. 28, 1886 after what is believed to be New York's first 'ticker tape parade'.
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It was earlier, Libertas.
Didn't look it up but think we got it in 1876.
If so, I think it would be Hayes
Wouldn't that have been Grant?
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The Torch arm was on display in 1876 at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia, then moved to New York's Madison Square Park from 1876-1882. The rest was transport here in 350 pieces in 1885 during the presidency of Chester Arthur. America was to provide the pedestal and funding was slow until Joseph Pulitzer took the chair for funding getting about 120,00 donations of $1.00. With the pedestal finally finish reasembly was finally completed and President Grover Cleveland held the dedication on Oct. 28, 1886 after what is believed to be New York's first 'ticker tape parade'.
10 years. Stuff took a while back then. Heck, we took 10 years to build the Panama canal right? Not all that many years later and an undertaking only about a million times more daunting!
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Part was here during U.S. Grant
Arm displayed during Hayes
Crated pieces during Arthur, and reassembly started [this was considered delivery, even in pieces]
completed and dedication Clevelands first term;
but I guess all above answers can be taken.
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Question #29
This presidents 'first lady began the practice of having the band play "Hail to the Chief" for the president before state occasions, Who was he?
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Oooh, this is a devilishly tricky one, Rusty! "First Lady", "before state occasions"! ::pokeineye::
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Hail to the Chief was believed played for the first time by the Marine Corp. Band, July 4, 1828 at the ceremony dedicating the opening of the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal while President J.Q Adams attended. Played once in a while for President Andrew Jackson, But it formally request played at all state functions by Julia Tyler, the second wife of President John Tyler. Ironically not until during Harry Truman's administration did congress make it the official tribute to the President.
U.S. Presidential Anthem - Hail to the Chief (With Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJvxY7uENM#)
this one without the words is what everone is use to;
Hail to the Chief (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC837oh98_Y#)
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If Wiki is right on this...
Association with the President first occurred in 1815, when it was played to honor both George Washington and the end of the War of 1812 (under the name "Wreaths for the Chieftain").[1] On July 4, 1828, the U.S. Marine Band performed the song at a ceremony for the formal opening of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal, which was attended by President John Quincy Adams.[2] Andrew Jackson was the first living President to have the song used to honor his position in 1829, and it was played at Martin Van Buren's inauguration in 1837.[1] Julia Tyler, second wife of John Tyler, requested its use to announce the arrival of the President.[1] Her successor as First Lady, Sarah Childress Polk, encouraged its regular use in this manner after it was used at James Polk's inauguration; William Seale says, "Polk was not an impressive figure, so some announcement was necessary to avoid the embarrassment of his entering a crowded room unnoticed. At large affairs the band...rolled the drums as they played the march...and a way was cleared for the President."[1] Under the term of Harry Truman the Department of Defense made it the official tribute to the President.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_to_the_Chief
What is a more "official" state function?
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Question #30
Florida's electoral votes were contested, and he did not win the popular vote. In his inaugural address, he noted that a special commission was created to decide the election, who was this President? Hint; {probably not who you are thinking.}
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I smell a democrat, and the only good democrat... ;)
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A dead one, Libertas?
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I'm having a senior moment. It was sometime in the 1800's. ::bashing::
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A dead one, Libertas?
Good doggie! Here's a biscuit!
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#30 Answer -- Sorry about that guys - surprising it was not a dem. It was Republican and none other than Rutherford B. Hayes.
From the 'Miller Center, Presidential Key Events;
Another good source.....quote from
http://millercenter.org/president/hayes/key-events (http://millercenter.org/president/hayes/key-events)
Presidents;
Rutherford B. Hayes
Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, previously a Union soldier, as well as a representative and governor of Ohio, is publicly sworn in as the nineteenth President of the United States. He takes the oath privately on March 3rd. In the race against Democrat Samuel Tilden, Hayes secures only 48 percent of the popular vote and 164 electoral votes to Tilden's 184. However, voter fraud and unclear results are reported in several states. A controversial decision of a special electoral commission ultimately proclaims Hayes President, with some Democrats referring to Hayes as “Rutherfraud.” In return for the presidency, the Republicans make various concessions, including the removal of federal troops from the South. These actions are labeled the “Compromise of 1877”; African-Americans refer to it as “The Great Betrayal.” March 05, 1877
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So. Hayes was the first RINO, eh?
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Question #31 What religious affiliation had the most Presidents adhering to?
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Question #31 What religious affiliation had the most Presidents adhering to?
Protestant?
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Question #31 What religious affiliation had the most Presidents adhering to?
Protestant?
Takes in many disciplines - which denomination?
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Methodist, guessing
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Thinking of who we broke away from...could it be Episcopalian?
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Another ATTABOY go to Libertas....
There have been -- 11 Episcopalian
10 Presbyterian
5 Methodist
4 Baptist
Uniterian
3 Disciples of Christ
2 Dutch Reformed
Quaker
Congregationist
1 Catholic
Jehovah's Witness
[and now it]
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One Quaker was Nixon, who was the JW door-knocker?
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One Quaker was Nixon, who was the JW door-knocker?
Get ready for a surprise - Raised by his mother the Jehovas Witness and he later changed to Presbyterian,[ probably because of his wife, but he also kept his religious upbringing a secret]....
President Dwight David Eisenhower
The other Quaker was Herbert Hoover
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One Quaker was Nixon, who was the JW door-knocker?
Get ready for a surprise - Raised by his mother the Jehovas Witness and he later changed to Presbyterian,[ probably because of his wife, but he also kept his religios upbringing a secret]....
President Dwight David Eisenhower
The other Quacker was Herbert Hoover
If I was Ike I'd go elsewhere too!
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I like Ike
::stirpot::
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Question #32
Which president used the slogan "Vote Yourself a Farm", for his election campaign?
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Question #32
Which president used the slogan "Vote Yourself a Farm", for his election campaign?
Lincoln for the slaves? ::laughonfloor::
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Yes folks we have another ATTABOY
Question #32
Which president used the slogan "Vote Yourself a Farm", for his election campaign?
Lincoln for the slaves? ::laughonfloor::
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Question #33
After their President was assassinated, name the Vice-Presidents that became President.
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#33 Answer --- Again no takers....
A. Johnson / Abraham Lincoln
C. Arthur / J. Garfield
T. Roosevelt / W. McKinley
and of course L. Johnson / J. Kennedy
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Yeah skipped the weekend here, I would have gotten 3/4...I can never remember that Arthur guy...just another New Yorker, right? Dime a dozen...
;D
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Question #34
These Presidents [ J. Tyler / M. Fillmore / A. Johnson / C. Arthur / T. Roosevelt / C. Coolidge / H. Truman / L. Johnson] had something in common their first term, besides the way they became president what was it?
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They were all elected to one term of their own, after completing the term of the elected President who died in office.
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Question #34
These Presidents [ J. Tyler / M. Fillmore / A. Johnson / C. Arthur / T. Roosevelt / C. Coolidge / H. Truman / L. Johnson] had something in common their first term, besides the way they became president what was it?
Well, I already know my answer was wrong. Good luck to the next guess!
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Question #34
These Presidents [ J. Tyler / M. Fillmore / A. Johnson / C. Arthur / T. Roosevelt / C. Coolidge / H. Truman / L. Johnson] had something in common their first term, besides the way they became president what was it?
Well, I already know my answer was wrong. Good luck to the next guess!
Your statement is correct - unfortunately it was a wrong guess because Tyler and Fillmore were not elected to another term.
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I dunno...all born in the south?
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I dunno...all born in the south?
Sorry, but these were about 50/50 north and south.
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I can't think of anything...too much drain bamage...
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None of them had a Vice-President until their 2nd term.
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Answer #34
Way ta go 'yankeestom - another ATTABOY goes out ---No Vice-presidents
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Question #35
Two part - 1st part, Besides Harry Truman, name F.D.Roosevelts Vice-Presidents
2nd part, What was Truman doing when informed to come to the White House to
become President?
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Selling shoes?
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Sorry Pan.
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Fishing?
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Pan - sorry twice
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Getting a haircut?
Don't be sorry; I'm just playing with you 'cause I haven't the foggiest clue.
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Answer #34
Way ta go 'yankeestom - another ATTABOY goes out ---No Vice-presidents
How could anybody tell?
::rimshot::
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Question #35
Two part - 1st part, Besides Harry Truman, name F.D.Roosevelts Vice-Presidents
2nd part, What was Truman doing when informed to come to the White House to
become President?
Was there a Wallace? Name sticks in my head for some reason.
As for Truman, FDR had him involved in absolutely nothing, so I'll say...nothing.
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As for Truman, FDR had him involved in absolutely nothing, so I'll say...nothing.
I'd say that description fits every VP I've known.
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Question #35
Two part - 1st part, Besides Harry Truman, name F.D.Roosevelts Vice-Presidents
2nd part, What was Truman doing when informed to come to the White House to
become President?
Was there a Wallace? Name sticks in my head for some reason.
As for Truman, FDR had him involved in absolutely nothing, so I'll say...nothing.
One out of three isn't bad..
Vice-Presidents; John Garner / Henry Wallace and Harry Truman
Truman - although the 'official' word was 'going to a meeting with Sam Rayburn" - the meeting was their regular 'poker club game day'. He was summonded to the White house, where;
A calm and quiet Eleanor said, "Harry, the president is dead." He asked if there was anything he could do for her, to which she replied, "Is there anything we can do for you? For you are the one in trouble now."
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Question #36
How many cabinet members did President George Washington have his first term in office?
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Heck, they had bare bones back then, Washington had to basically create the all the executive offices...aside from Jefferson (State) & Hamilton (Treasury) and Knox (War)...there might have been one more...two at the most. Postmaster General? I think there may have been an AG too. Article II governs the Executive branch...and all they mention there is in Section 2 - "...he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices..." (thank you, The Patriot Post "Essential Liberty Pocket Guide"!) ...so as we can see Washington had to take the assumed bureaucracy left vague in the Constitution and add flesh and bones to it. I kinda wish scope and oversight was better established from the get-go, but Gerogie did OK, it's everybody that came after him (especially at the turn of the 20th century!) that really hosed things up big time!
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ATTABOY Libertas -- Cabinet Members numbered 4 and you named each cabinet, missing only secretaries for AG / Edmund Randolph and Samuel Osgood for Postmaster General added later.
Now it's up to 15 {GWB} at a current salary of $191,000.+
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I like early American history! I was born way too late... :'(
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Question #37 Can't remember if I used this earlier, so reviewed most everything and didn't find it - so here goes.
Which former President holds the highest military rank?
[ added former because the 'thing' wasn't ever in and would have been givin' a section 8, or dishonorable for his discharge out of service, then there would be a record of his assh*le'itist].
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Has to be Ike.
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Ike was a five star General, so I guess him, but we had several generals as president, who commanded the whole American Army, Washington and Grant at least, but I do not think they used the star system back then, so Eisenhower would be the one.
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Much the same way up to the Civil War, generals were typically 1-3 stars, and many (especially in the early days) designed their own uniforms and accoutrements. In the modern era 4 stars became the norm for highest rank, until WWII, and after that once those 5 stars retired 4 reverted to the highest rank once again.
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Answer #37
Simple answer is George Washington, but it took Congress under Gerald Ford. In 1976 Ford made the request to posthumously promoted former 3 star General [ 'the father of the country'] to 6 stars.
Resolution below;
Whereas Lieutenant General George Washington of Virginia commanded our armies throughout and to the successful termination of our Revolutionary War;
Whereas Lieutenant General George Washington presided over the convention that formulated our Constitution;
Whereas Lieutenant General George Washington twice served as President of the United States of America; and
Whereas it is considered fitting and proper that no officer of the United States Army should outrank Lieutenant General George Washington on the Army list;
Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
(a) for purposes of subsection (b) of this section only, the grade of General of the Armies of the United States is established, such grade to have rank and precedence over all other grades of the Army, past or present.
(b) The President is authorized and requested to appoint George Washington posthumously to the grade of General of the Armies of the United States, such appointment to take effect on July 4, 1976.
Approved October 11, 1976.
Public Law 94-479The formal promotion order from the Army does not address six-star status; however the phrasing "such grade to have rank and precedence over all other grades of the Army, past or present" by implication clarifies the relationship of Washington's rank to Pershing's
Note: In another post I'll do the story on this subject of 4,5 and the sixth star if anyone is interest.
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See, I know early history better than later...tells you where my interest is dunnit?! ;D
But, since Washington by law cannot be outranked...nobody can rise to anything better than #2, no matter how many stars.
Washington being #1 there is a tie for #1a before you get to all those 5's from WWII!
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Note: In another post I'll do the story on this subject of 4,5 and the sixth star if anyone is interest.
I would definitely be interested in that, thanks! Also, he has a ton of back-pay coming...
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Note: In another post I'll do the story on this subject of 4,5 and the sixth star if anyone is interest.
I would definitely be interested in that, thanks! Also, he has a ton of back-pay coming...
Heh.
I bet he would trade all of it for having his name removed from certain things which have turned his illustrious name into a curse!
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All officers that wore the 5 Star Rank were World War II commanders. Five star officers are advanced to that rank only in time of war,[at one time I read they also must command at least 100,000 + troops, [but I could not find it for proof this time on the internet]. A Brigadier generally commands 3 brigades approx. totaling 3,000. A Major General commands 20,000-30,000 and a Lt. Gen usually 60,000 -70,000 troops.
The list of 5 Star officers;
Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy advanced 15 December 1944
General of the Army George C. Marshall advanced 16 December 1944
Fleet Admiral Ernest King advanced 17 December 1944
General of the Army Douglas MacArthur advanced 18 December 1944
Fleet Admiral Chester W. N imitz advanced 19 December 1944
General of the Army Dwight David Eisenhower advanced 20 December 1944
General of the Army Henry H. Arnold advanced 21 December 1944
Fleet Admiral William Halsey Jr. advanced 11 December 1945
General of the Army Omar Bradley advanced 20 September 1950 see note
General of the Air Force Henry H. Arnold advanced 7 May 1949 see note
note:
In the Bradley case it came during Korea – remembering President Truman fired General MacArthur.
In the case of Arnold, the Army Air Corp. became the US Air Force during Korea and he transferred keeping his rank – becoming the only person to wear 5 Stars in two branches of military service.
Additional;
Two other United States officers held the office of Generalof the Army and Admiral of the Navy.
General of the Army was General Pershing- advanced 3 September 1919 – when advanced there was no insignia at the time. He was given the chose of having the 5 stars in the circle made or wearing 4 stars but instead of silver they were gold color - he chose the later being the only General or General of the Army to wear 4 gold stars. See below
When Admiral George Dewey was advanced 24 March 1903 he also continued wearing only 4 stars, but designed his own 'shoulder boards'. Both officers above received additional pay. see below
Maximum Numbers of Generals;
Army 230 total Generals 7 four stars
Air Force 208 9 four stars
Marines 60 4 four stars
Navy 160 6 four stars
Coast Guard less than 30 1 four star
No more than 25% of active duty flag [general and/or admiral] officers can have more than 2 stars in all branches.
Chief of Staff and Commandants serve 4 years.
Vice Chiefs and Vice Commandants usually retire after 2 years
A 4 Star retires after 40 years military [64 years old], but the Sec. Of Defense can defer them to age 66 and the President can defer them to age 68.
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Note spelling - General of the Army and General of the Armies
Armies is the designation for General of ALL military of the United States.
Now the two excepts for insignia;
Admiral George Dewey:
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General Pershing;
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Good job Rusty, looks like you covered all the bases! ::thumbsup::
General of the Army = Fleet Admiral
General of the Armies - Admiral of the Navy
The latter are higher in rank but the former sound...nicer, to me.
And as noted earleir, the law making Washington the highest in rank, the official title being "General of the Armies of the United States" is the long title, the short one being "General of the Armies". I think George is deserving of the long title!
::thumbsup::
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Question #38
This Presidents Vice-President shot and killed a man, while in office. Can you name the President and the Vice-President - and can you identify the person he killed ?
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I'm having a senior moment, but I believe it was a duel.
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Aaron Burr. He killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel; I know this because of the milk commercial. :)
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Original "got milk?" commercial - Who shot Alexander Hamilton? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSsswr6z9Y#)
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Aaron Burr. He killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel; I know this because of the milk commercial. :)
First time I have even seen the commercial; Last part though, who was the President?
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Aaron Burr. He killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel; I know this because of the milk commercial. :)
First time I have even seen the commercial; Last part though, who was the President?
Jefferson!
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Now, that wasn't so hard.
But Burr was a major douchenozzle who managed to PO Washington more than once during the war and supported Charles Lee over Washington as commander of continental forces. He practiced law with the man whom he would later slay, and was a major player in NY politics and when he and Jefferson tied in the first ballot of the 1800 electoral votes, Hamilton who was no fan of Burr threw his support behind Jefferson, who was a rival but who also disliked Burr and in whom Hamilton saw as the lesser of two evils. He may have been right about that, but he probably gave Burr more reasons to want to shoot him...Hamilton also was blamed by Burr for foiling his run for NY Governor in 1804.
Anybody else know what nefarious first Burr holds as a former Vice President?
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Besides the thought of impeachment then the charge of treason in 1807, good chance of two illegitimate children, Tammney Hall friendships, earlier duel in which both missed and lived,forcing over 30 ballets in the election by shaky means - I can't think of anything else.
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Nice going folks - I guess watching commercials does pay off ::laughonfloor::, any way both did it 2 ATTABOYS and another for the commercial.
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Now Question #39
This Vice-President remarked - "The duties of the VP is to go to weddings and funerals". Name him and his President.
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Besides the thought of impeachment then the charge of treason in 1807, good chance of two illegitimate children, Tammney Hall friendships, earlier duel in which both missed and lived,forcing over 30 ballets in the election by shaky means - I can't think of anything else.
Heh, that'll do. Yeah he was exonerated in the treason trial for conspiring with the Spanish but I think if retried today he would have been convicted.
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Now Question #39
This Vice-President remarked - "The duties of the VP is to go to weddings and funerals". Name him and his President.
Sounds like Truman under FDR. Could be just about anyone though of the late modern era!
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Now Question #39
This Vice-President remarked - "The duties of the VP is to go to weddings and funerals". Name him and his President.
Sounds like Truman under FDR. Could be just about anyone though of the late modern era!
I'm not sure why, but I'm thinking Agnew.
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Lib is correct. It was Harry Truman, VP under FDR.
AFTER he became president.
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Two more ATTABOYS - Libertas and CG - Guess the questions are getting to easy again.
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Two more ATTABOYS - Libertas and CG - Guess the questions are getting to easy again.
They have to be easy for me.
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Question #40
This President defended the wife of his Secretary of War, which led to a polarization of his cabinet, and led to the reorganization of the administration. Can you name the President and the wife of his Sec. of War?
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I know the President and I know who led the effort to shun the cabinet member (the wife of the Vice President, her husband being a very well known figure in American history and someone I described in an earlier post as being rather crazy-looking), but I cannot for the life of me tell you who the Sec of War was, it wasn't anybody "notable" in popular history.
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Answer #40 Another ATTABOY to Libertas plus he gets a 'class' ATTABOY for knowing the answer but waiting for others to answer - way to go.
Found this to make a long story short;
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In 1829 Peggy Eaton married her second husband, the prominent Democratic politician John Henry Eaton and was snubbed socially by the wives of President Andrew Jackson's cabinet, who suspected that the two of a pre-marital affair. Jackson, a close friend of Eaton, defended the pair and reorganized his cabinet in 1831 in an effort to ease the tension, an event referred to as the Petticoat affair.
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Question #41 What president was the first from the Whig Party?
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Question #41 What president was the first from the Whig Party?
William Henry Harrison.
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Ans. #41 ATTABOY -- CG Wm. H. Harrison the first Whig Party President
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Since CG got it so fast, I guess tougher questions are in order, so....
Question #42
This president must have liked Fridays because someof the things he accomplised included ---
being born, being commissioned,Appointed his first cabinet officer, established a branch of service, and completed his last term. Name the President ...... The other things would give away the answer..
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Initials J.A.?
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Boy, the Whigs didn't last too long.
Wasn't Harrison, like, 1840ish?
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Initials J.A.?
Sorry
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Initials J.A.?
Sorry
Has to be GW then.
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Answer #42 ATTABOY Libertas - George Washington
Other things that would have givin' it away - Fought the battle of Princeton, Won the battle of YorktownCreated War Department.Laid the cornerstone to the White House, Established the U.S. Marine Corp, the cabinet officer was Alexander Hamilton, and earlier was elected President of the Constitutional Convention, Then elected Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army.
note; Commander-in-Chief - he certainly was a far cry from the thing we have now, ::facepalm::
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Question #43 Name the first Senator later to be elected President.
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Truman?
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Truman?
Sorry
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Truman?
Sorry
Oops, I was guessing at the previous question; didn't realize there was another page with more replies and a new question. First Senator to become President was James Monroe.
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Yeah, but his last government job before POTUS was the traditional stepping stone back then - Sec State.
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I know Harding was elected first as a Senator, but I do not think he ever served as Secretary of State.
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Truman?
Sorry
Oops, I was guessing at the previous question; didn't realize there was another page with more replies and a new question. First Senator to become President was James Monroe.
Answer to #43 - James Monroe is correct --- ATTABOY Yankeestom
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Question #44 --- Maybe this one is tougher....
This president survived a gallstone operation without anesthesia or antiseptics, Can you name him?
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LBJ had gall bladder surgery while in office, but I can't imagine that someone that recent had it without antiseptics being used.
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Gotta be a tough old goat...must be a 19th century dude...I'm drawing a blank though...dang Rusty is going deeper into the bag for these questions!
;D
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Answer #44
James K. Polk survived a gallstone operation at age 17 without anethesia or antiseptics. Those medical practices were not used at the time.
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I hope he got some whiskey and something to bite down on!
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Question #45 This president ate a cucumber soaked in vinegar for breakfast each morning, but the sight of a rare steak nauseated him, who was he?
[ Strange trivia - yep - {am I at the bottom of the barrel, maybe pickle, but not a chance}].
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I am thinking Franklin Pierce and honestly I don't even know why...it's a SWAG and that's all I got. :o
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I am thinking Franklin Pierce and honestly I don't even know why...it's a SWAG and that's all I got. :o
Good guess, but sorry it wasn't him.
Answer #45
With some of the bloodiest battles in history, killing and wounded, U.S. Grant could not stomach the sight of animal blood-rare steak nauseated him. For breakfast every morning it was cucumber soaked in vinegar[probably nauseated the cooks]
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I am thinking Franklin Pierce and honestly I don't even know why...it's a SWAG and that's all I got. :o
Good guess, but sorry it wasn't him.
Answer #45
With some of the bloodiest battles in history, killing and wounded, U.S. Grant could not stomach the sight of animal blood-rare steak nauseated him. For breakfast every morning it was cucumber soaked in vinegar[probably nauseated the cooks]
Huh. How'd I miss that? I gotta go back a re-read my Civil War history! (Good as an excuse as any!)
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Question #46
This person was not only President, was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and is the first President buried in Arlington, can you name him?
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Taft! I didn't know the part about him being the first in Arlington, though.
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Only two former Presidents buried in Arlington - Taft and Kennedy, but quick response --
ATTABOY Yankeestom
Guess I am making them to easy! ::facepalm::
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Okay lets try Question #47
This President wrote a letter to the incoming President "My dear sir, If you are as happy on entering the White House as I am leaving, you are a happy man indeed". Can you name both the outgoing and incoming President?
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I believe it was said face to face, but I won't reveal by whom to whom.
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It sounds like George Washington.....but I have no clue other than the style of speech.
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I think it may have been The Buck Stops Here.
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I believe it was said face to face, but I won't reveal by whom to whom.
My research years ago only mentioned a letter, will check and try to find the mention of face to face.
The answer to #47 though; outgoing President Buchanan to incoming President Abraham Lincoln
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Question #48
Can you identify the player [future president] jumping for the ball that is on the left? {Hope this isn't to easy - to be explained}
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Kennedy? Kerry's not an athlete. Anyways, gotta be navy.
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Jimmuh (I think)
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Photo must be doctored...wasn't it Spike Lee who taught America white men can't jump?
Oh, and Carter was a bubblehead, so since this looks like a flattop and in B&W I'll Say George H.W. Bush.
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That would be Gerald Ford, who, despite the characterization of him as a bumbling oaf by Chevy Chase, was a very good athlete.
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I thought he was a Michigan football guy...I dunno, maybe...he was a squid too. Yeah, could be him!
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That would be Gerald Ford, who, despite the characterization of him as a bumbling oaf by Chevy Chase, was a very good athlete.
Another ATTABOY forYankeestom and yes Libertas he played football for the University of Michigan.
During the 1932 and 1933 seasons they were undefeated. As all American in football he was offered pro contracts with the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears, but he then went to Yale as boxing coach, finally admitted to their law school in 1938, graduated in 1941. Joined the Navy served aboard the Carrier USS Monterey in Halseys fleet that was caught in what has become known and "Halseys Typhon" [ Good Book by Bob Drury and Tom Clavin]. Ford was almost washed overboard during that typhon.
[M GO BLUE -my addition because my favorite two college football teams are Univ. of Mich. and whoever beats Ohio State ::bashing::]
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Question #49
This presidents mother and wife died the same day in the same house but of different causes, Can you name the president?
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That would be Gerald Ford, who, despite the characterization of him as a bumbling oaf by Chevy Chase, was a very good athlete.
So true. The bumbling was due to a knee injury. I was having the same problem before having my meniscus cleaned out. I would be walking along when my knee would just quit.
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Answer #49 Am I making the questions harder? ::cool::
Theodore Roosevelt lost both his Wife and mother the same day in the same house. His wife died two days after giving birth to their daughter, Alice Lee. His mother died of typhoid fever. He was devastated - he left his daughter in his sisters care and fled to South Dakota to live on his ranch in the Badlands, near Rapid City, for two years to 'lead a simpler life', and refusing to speak his wifes name again after the first year, [he even omitted her name from his autopbiography], and didn't allow others to mention her name in his presents.
NOTE: I posted this trivia question purposely on Feb. 14, because they both died February 14, 1884 one-hundred, thirty years ago.
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Question #50
This president did not take any salary until his term of office was up, then he took the entire amount in one lump sum, can you name him?
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Answer #50
President Martin VanBuren waited until after his term as President then took his entire $100,000.00 pay for the 4 years.
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IIRC Martin was fairly well off, so he didn't need a regular paycheck to get by. He was also the first President to be a natural born citizen.
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Answer #50
President Martin VanBuren waited until after his term as President then took his entire $100,000.00 pay for the 4 years.
You can tell they didn't have taxes like today.
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Question #51
This presidents nickname was "Old Rough and Ready". Who was he and why that nickname?
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Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Rough Riders.
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I know who (not Teddy, he was a "Rough Rider"), guess I don't know why...thought it was a not uncommon soldiery salute for an esteemed warrior. He looked rough though! Let's see if anybody can get the who and the why.
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Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Rough Riders.
Good guess but sorry, no attaboy.
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Zachary Taylor, re: Second Seminole War
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Answer to #51 -- I'll give ya an ATTABOY - Zachary Taylor was "Old Rough and Ready", but not just because of the war. He preferred old and slovenly clothes. [? don't know]
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Question #52
What do former Presidents Benjamin Harrison and Grover Cleveland have in common?
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Answer #52 - Again no takers
Both Benjamin Harrison and Grover Cleveland hold the distinction of defeating an incumbent president and being defeated by each other. Cleveland was defeated by Harrison in 1889, then four years later, in 1893 Cleveland defeated Harrison. As a side note; Cleveland also holds the distinction of being the only President to serve two nonconsecutive terms Number 22 and 24 because of this.
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Question #53
This future President made his first solo flight in this plane, who was he?
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G.H.W.Bush?
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Answer #53 ATTABOY Libertas -- that plane is on display at Ford Island Museum in Hawaii, and they did not know until refurbishing and were checking the planes flight log history.
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Question #54
This President had two Vice-Presidents, both died in office. Can you name the President, and can you name the two VP's?
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Question #54
This President had two Vice-Presidents, both died in office. Can you name the President, and can you name the two VP's?
AKA - If a Veep falls, doesn anybody notice. And if two Veeps fall and nobody notices...well, that can't be good! ::hysterical::
I knew this at one time...I forgot...somebody outta know though!
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James Madison.
George Clinton in first term, Elbridge Gerry in 2nd term.
Quit making me come out of the wood pile! ::slapfight::
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James Madison.
George Clinton in first term, Elbridge Gerry in 2nd term.
Quit making me come out of the wood pile! ::slapfight::
At least you're able to dig through the cobwebs and find the answer. My webs are too dense.
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My BRAIN is too dense.
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Damned drain bamage!
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Damned drain bamage!
I totally subgree wit dat!
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Answer to #54; Alright CG you get the ATTABOY for this right answer, all three parts.
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Question #55
This president was the first president born in a hospital, can you name him?
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Dat wuz Jimmuh Carter.
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Answer #55 Whoa dat be two in a row CG ATTABOY, and what you be doing that early in the AM ? ::whatgives::
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::snoshovel::
;D
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... and what you be doing that early in the AM ? ::whatgives::
I just be awake and lying there. So I decided to cause some shytt here with you!!! ::hysterical::
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Question #56
How many states are the official origin of Presidents ?
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Counting Mr 57 too? ::hysterical::
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Counting Mr 57 too? ::hysterical::
That's be the reason for the 'official' addition ----- ::thumbsup:: ::hysterical::
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Answer to #56
20 states are official origin of presidents. [ based on 43 presidents -- due to controvercy, current 'thing' and Hawaii not included]
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Question #57
How many former presidents have had State Funerals ?
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Question #57
How many former presidents have had State Funerals ?
9.
FDR, JFK, H. Hoover, DDE, HST, LBJ, R. Nixon, R. REAGAN, GR Ford.
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#57 --- sorry CG
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Would have to count the assassinated presidents and those who died in office before the modern era too, I'd say the number is closer to double what Coastie said, so I'll go with 18.
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Answer #57 sorry to both, but the number is -- 11
Lincoln
Garfield
McKinley
Harding
Taft
Kennedy
Hoover
Eisenhower
Johnson
Reagan
Ford
[personally I don't know why Johnson got one, only possible reason it appears that after Kennedy all presidents are now getting one, with the exception of Nixon].
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Answer #57 sorry to both, but the number is -- 11
Lincoln
Garfield
McKinley
Harding
Taft
Kennedy
Hoover
Eisenhower
Johnson
Reagan
Ford
[personally I don't know why Johnson got one, only possible reason it appears that after Kennedy all presidents are now getting one, with the exception of Nixon].
For LBJ is was probably CYA to be sure all JFK related hit evidence went with him...
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Answer #57 sorry to both, but the number is -- 11
Lincoln
Garfield
McKinley
Harding
Taft
Kennedy
Hoover
Eisenhower
Johnson
Reagan
Ford
[personally I don't know why Johnson got one, only possible reason it appears that after Kennedy all presidents are now getting one, with the exception of Nixon].
I came up with 13. Those listed above plus Harrison and Taylor.
http://agraveinterest.blogspot.com/2012/09/presidential-state-funerals-in-us.html (http://agraveinterest.blogspot.com/2012/09/presidential-state-funerals-in-us.html)
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Answer #57 sorry to both, but the number is -- 11
Lincoln
Garfield
McKinley
Harding
Taft
Kennedy
Hoover
Eisenhower
Johnson
Reagan
Ford
[personally I don't know why Johnson got one, only possible reason it appears that after Kennedy all presidents are now getting one, with the exception of Nixon].
I came up with 13. Those listed above plus Harrison and Taylor.
http://agraveinterest.blogspot.com/2012/09/presidential-state-funerals-in-us.html (http://agraveinterest.blogspot.com/2012/09/presidential-state-funerals-in-us.html)
Updated to include both you mentioned minus days of public mourning, my info was outdated for this question, my fault. Possibly could add U.S. Grant even though funeral procession was held in New York.
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It got confusinger and confusinger.
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It got confusinger and confusinger.
It's the gubment. 'Nuff said. ::unknowncomic::
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Question #58
This presidents occupation prior to the White House is listed as 'Tailor', can you name him ?
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Sounds like a wuss...not that that narrows it any better! ::facepalm::
And it's not Taylor, he was a soldier.
::thinking::
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Truman?
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I thought he was a failed businessman, a haberdasher or however you say it...
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Libertas you are right -- it was not Truman.
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Johnson, Andrew
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See, I knew it was a loser! ;D
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I thought he was a failed businessman, a haberdasher or however you say it...
Dammit. I knew it was something with men's clothes. ::bashing::
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Johnson, Andrew
ATTABOY for Septugenarian about #58
Yep Andrew Johnson was the tailor, proving he didn't know a stitch about the White House,politics or the presidency. He was good at impeachment though, loosing in the house and remaining in office by one vote in the Senate. Maybe a pre-cursor to a couple of future office holders --- do ya think ?
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Question #59
How many 'Brevert' military officers later became president ?
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. Lincoln, Grant, Taylor, Harrison, of and Jackson....five?
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Answer #59
. Lincoln, Grant, Taylor, Harrison, of and Jackson....five?
Lincoln was elected ? to the rank of Captain - then re-enlisted as a private, honorably dischared without seeing combat.
Grant was a graduate of West Point, became a four star General.
Taylor promoted to 2 star major General because of his Mexican-American War leadership.
Harrison was a Brevert Brigadier General
Jackson served in Contionental Army 1780 as messenger, was the only president to be held as
prisoner of war,then served in War of 1812 becoming a Major General.
So the 'Breverts' were;
Benjamin Harrison - Brigadier General of Volunteers
Rutherford Hayes - Major General of Volunteers
William McKinley - Major of Volunteers [gold oak leaf - not a general].
Note; Brevert's had the rank without the extra pay, and used mostly for Officers of Volunteers. Brevert ranks were done away with sometime in the 20th century, mostly replaced with medals and awards.
Side note; While studing presidential military service, I found the Lyndon Johnson was a
Commander during WWII recieving the Silver Star from MacArthur for his role as an observer on a B-26 bomber mission. [ Can we say GIFT] ::pullhair::
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[ Can we say GIFT] ::pullhair::
Like you and me getting the CG Good Conduct medal! ::hysterical::
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Teddy didn't have a Brevert's rank?
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Teddy didn't have a Brevert's rank?
Nope - full Colonel New York National Guard, 1st Volunteer Calvary Regiment [Rough Riders]
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[ Can we say GIFT] ::pullhair::
Like you and me getting the CG Good Conduct medal! ::hysterical::
I resemble that
. I got mine because I didn't get caught, and that probably goes for you also. ::oldman:: ::laughonfloor::
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[ Can we say GIFT] ::pullhair::
Like you and me getting the CG Good Conduct medal! ::hysterical::
I resemble that
. I got mine because I didn't get caught, and that probably goes for you also. ::oldman:: ::laughonfloor::
You are so wrong. I was a good boy throughout my military service. Never did anything bad. Nope. Never.
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You be going to hell for all that bovine scribal - when lightnings strikes sure hope I'm a long way from you. ::pokeineye::
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Question #60
Which President has had the most visits to a Naval ship during his administration ?
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You be going to hell for all that bovine scribal - when lightnings strikes sure hope I'm a long way from you. ::pokeineye::
How can you say that? Now you've hurt my feelings. ::whatgives::
I was and still am just laying back in the weeds, merely a casual observer of the passing scene and helping mankind go forward to a better life.
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You be going to hell for all that bovine scribal - when lightnings strikes sure hope I'm a long way from you. ::pokeineye::
How can you say that? Now you've hurt my feelings. ::whatgives::
I was and still am just laying back in the weeds, merely a casual observer of the passing scene and helping mankind go forward to a better life.
Holy shytt - now it's time to roll up the pant legs cause it's to late to save the shoes ---- ::gaah::
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::hysterical::
OK, #60 has to be that schmuck FDR!
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Holy shytt - now it's time to roll up the pant legs cause it's to late to save the shoes ---- ::gaah::
Don't do that! No one wants to see your legs.... ::bigmooning::
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#60 -- Way to go Libertas another ATTABOY -- it was FDR with 14, but with all the terms not unbelieveable. Teddy R., Eisenhower, and Kennedy where a distant 2nd with 7.
A little memory trip - I was aboard the Eagle on the Honor Guard August 15, 1962 when President Kennedy was there for the change of command ceremony for Coast Guard Commandants. The Eagle is a 3 masted Barque used for training seamanship to the officer cadets at the Coast Guard Academy
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/Interesting%20people/Prestripe_Eagle1_zps4b11a27f.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/rustybayonet_2009/media/Interesting%20people/Prestripe_Eagle1_zps4b11a27f.jpg.html)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/Interesting%20people/JFK01_zps3aceb3e0.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/rustybayonet_2009/media/Interesting%20people/JFK01_zps3aceb3e0.jpg.html)
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Nice. And even the old masted beasts were white too, eh? ::thumbsup::
Like the uni's.
I caught the transition from the old Ice Cream Man uniforms back to the traditional crackerjack uni's when I was in the Navy, they should have never gone away from the crackerjack, hands down best enlisted Navy uni ever. I remember rolling our ties being toughest part of putting it together...we needed the really old salts to show us how. Since these are similar I supose that challenge was a shared one.
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Question #61
Prior to Ronald Reagan, who was the oldest President when sworn in to office ?
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Nice. And even the old masted beasts were white too, eh? ::thumbsup::
Like the uni's.
I caught the transition from the old Ice Cream Man uniforms back to the traditional crackerjack uni's when I was in the Navy, they should have never gone away from the crackerjack, hands down best enlisted Navy uni ever. I remember rolling our ties being toughest part of putting it together...we needed the really old salts to show us how. Since these are similar I supose that challenge was a shared one.
Agreed, and liked the dixiecups - CG went to the 'donald ducks' sometime after I got out, never liked that look, glad I was out by then. Yep getting the 'roll' correct was a bear especially on the HG - had to be small and tight [ no comments from the peanut gallery]. Getting used to 13 buttons on the blues when first going in was fun also, but you did learn fast---only difference between Navy and CG uniforms - CG had a 'shield' on right arm down near cuff area just above the wrist. Every uniform I ever saw had a 'U.S. Navy' tag inside - uniforms now are completely different - Navy is only one left with 'crackerjack style'.
the current CG uniform;
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/USCG/Scan11_zps32b2d70e.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/rustybayonet_2009/media/USCG/Scan11_zps32b2d70e.jpg.html)
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I was still in the CG when the Donald Duck hats thing came. I still have one; I wore it ONCE, for an inspection.
We hated those damned things.
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Always some meddlesome bureaucrat somewhere mucking things up! ::pullhair::
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Time has passed, but try this one;
Question #62
Which two Presidents were born in Texas ?
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I know Bush wasn't. LBJ and.....
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I know Bush wasn't. LBJ and.....
Other one could be a Army brat...Ike maybe?
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I know Bush wasn't. LBJ and.....
Other one could be a Army brat...Ike maybe?
Nice!
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Answer to #62 Tag team winners for ATTABOT's ---Alan S and Libertas
yep - LBJ and Eisenhower were the two born in Texas
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Before next question a reminder of caviat ---All questions and answers pertain only to Presidents thru #43 - George W. Bush.
Question #63
Which president was born on the 4th of July ?
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No takers again --- Calvin Coolidge was the President born on the 4th of July.
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No takers again --- Calvin Coolidge was the President born on the 4th of July.
Oh, I shoulda got that one. He is one of my favorites. No one had to tell HIM to sit down and shut up and mind his own business.
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No takers again --- Calvin Coolidge was the President born on the 4th of July.
Oh, I shoulda got that one. He is one of my favorites. No one had to tell HIM to sit down and shut up and mind his own business.
I know one that could use some lessons.
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How'd I miss that one! ::bashing::
Smilin' Cal had a lot of good one-liners and didn't waste words! Now we have a clown who wastes words, money, time...the very air we breath...
::unknowncomic::
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How'd I miss that one! ::bashing::
Smilin' Cal had a lot of good one-liners and didn't waste words! Now we have a clown who wastes words, money, time...the very air we breath...
::unknowncomic::
Silent Cal was one of the best presidents and nobody seems to know about that. One of the few presidents that actually downsized the federal government (in one term to boot too!). He managed to slash 20% of the federal government. He refused to run for a second term. If all presidents were like him, our country would be in far better shape then it is now.
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How'd I miss that one! ::bashing::
Smilin' Cal had a lot of good one-liners and didn't waste words! Now we have a clown who wastes words, money, time...the very air we breath...
::unknowncomic::
Silent Cal was one of the best presidents and nobody seems to know about that. One of the few presidents that actually downsized the federal government (in one term to boot too!). He managed to slash 20% of the federal government. He refused to run for a second term. If all presidents were like him, our country would be in far better shape then it is now.
Right on all points! ::thumbsup::
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Well a little more 'Trivia' activity; are you ready for more questions?
Try this tough one about what the Presidents did on the 4th of July.
Match the President [number] and the activity [letter]---
1. Spent in Cape May, N.J. on vacation
2. In Grand Rapids, MI; leading bands and floats in a parade, then returns to Washington DC to watch fireworks on the Mall.
3. President is ill in the White House, but the 4th falls on Sunday so the official celebration is on Monday July 5th.
A. Franklin Pierce
B. James Madison
C. G.H.W. Bush
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What was President Martin VanBuren's nickname?
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Martin VanBuren's nickname was "The Little Magician"
Staying with nicknames -- What was John Tyler's nickname?
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I know "Van is is used up man!". ;D
But I think you are looking for "His Ascendancy"? Since he slipped in as Harrison slipped out...all the way out! I guess you could say old Tippecanoe tipped the canoe and Tyler took it and hopped in. IIRC there was a lot of animus over his inheritance and the Jacksonian Dem's loathed all Whigs and even some Whigs hated fellow Whigs...spin forward to today and we have Ruling Class Repubs hating all non-Ruling Class repubs...go like the Whigs they will!
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Right you are Libertas - John Tyler was known as the 'Accidental President' after the death of Wm. Harrison
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How many presidents can you name that appear on;
On U.S. Coins
On U.S. Paper Currency
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Once again no takers;
Coins --- Lincoln, Jefferson, F. Roosevelt, Washington, Kennedy, and Eisenhower
Currency --- Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackson, Grant, McKinley, Cleveland, Madison, and Wilson
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Next Question;
How many times in the history of the United States Presidency has the President been without a Vice-President? And how many can you name?
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Oh, asleep at the switch, I coulda got the money ones...except maybe those last few on the big bills I never saw in my life...
For the Veep-less, I should know this and will probably kick myself when the results are shown...but I am dead in the head today...has to be non-modern era though, especially early on when succession issues/procedures weren't as nailed down or timely...
Would have to involve those who died in office - Harrison, Taylor, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, FDR & Kennedy. But IIRC I don't think any of them were ever without a Veep!
So, it has to be among Veeps who died in office! Crap, that makes it harder. I can only think of Burr and Calhoun. Hey, I got this far, y'all pick it up from here!!!
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What about the times directly after a presidential death/assassination when the Veep is promoted (for lack of a better term) and he has not selected a new Veep, or when Nixon stepped down and Ford became Pres then he needed to select a new Veep.
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What about the times directly after a presidential death/assassination when the Veep is promoted (for lack of a better term) and he has not selected a new Veep, or when Nixon stepped down and Ford became Pres then he needed to select a new Veep.
Oh yeah, who was that? Rockefeller? Talk about not being seen or heard! ::hysterical::
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Hats off to Libertas and benb61 - pretty good job. Here's the list and reasons;
1812-1813 Pres. Madison had no VP - George Clinton died in office
1814-1817 Pres. Madison had no VP - Elbridge Gerry died in office
[Madison must have been tough on VP's]
1832-1833 Pres. Jackson dropped John C. Calhoun from ticket after re-elected due to impasse
with Calhoun and 'friends' and appointed Martin VenBuren as his VP
1841-1845 Pres. William H. Harrison died after 30 days in office, Tyler took over with no VP
1850-1853 After Pres. Zackary Taylor died, Millard Fillmore become Pres.
1853-1857 Pres. Franklin Pierce - VP William R. King died in office
1865-1869 Pres. Lincoln assassinated, Andrew Johnson became Pres. with no VP
1875-1877 Pres. U.S. Grant [2nd term] VP Henry Wilson died in office
1881-1885 Pres. Garfield assassinated, Chester Arthur finished most of the term.
1885-1889 Pres. Cleveland held office alone after Thomas A. Hendricks died in office
1901-1906 Pres. McKinley assassinated, Teddy Roosevelt finished term without VP
1912-1913 Pres. Taft finished term after death of VP James S. Sherman
1923-1925 Pres. Harding died in office and Calvin Coolidge finished term
1945-1949 Pres. F. Roosevelt died in office and Harry Truman finished term
1963-1965 Pres. Kennedy assassinated,VP LB Johnson finished term without VP
1973 Pres. R. Nixon, VP Spiro Agnew resigned in scandal, Jerry Ford appointed VP
1974 Pres. R. Nixon resigns, VP Ford takes over and later appoints Rockefeller VP
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Those are tough, Veeps are easy to forget, some more than others!
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Next question; There was a 'strange medical' occurance between the first 5 Presidents to die before 1840 and the last 5 Presidents to die after 1960 --- do you know what it was?
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I beleive we would be talking about Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison & Monroe and Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford & Reagan...and I cannot think of a strange medical occurance...I was going to say they all died at home but obviously that cannot be true with Kennedy...
Strange medical occurance...
I am not going to like this one am I? Too obscure! :o
Strange...
Medical exam? Embalming? Parts removed and preserved? A lock of hair? Am I warm?
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Medical exam? Embalming? Parts removed and preserved? A lock of hair? Am I warm?
Not really Libertas;
Within the medical community the medical care and knowledge has extended the average life span dramatically over the years, yet with all the advancements in medicine, the first 5 Presidents with their limited treatments lived to the average age of 83. the last five only lived an average age of 81. Yes Kennedy was assassinated at a early age bringing the averages down. Looking further, during the first half of presidential history to 1875 the median age of death was 73.5 years, with the second half's median age of death was 65.5 years [through 1994], accordingly it seems presidents live shorter lives than the average American even though they supposedly have the best medical care of anyone. The figures don't speak very loudly to modern medicine as a prolonger of life, at least to presidents. ::whatgives::
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Another trivia question -- Who was the president that made this statement?
This president said of slavery; "I believe that involuntary servitude, as it exists in different states of the Confederacy, is recognized by the Constitution."
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Another trivia question -- Who was the president that made this statement?
This president said of slavery; "I believe that involuntary servitude, as it exists in different states of the Confederacy, is recognized by the Constitution."
I know I've heard that before but could not place the name to the phrase, so I had to look it up...I won't spill the beans entirely, but he is a pre-Civil War Democrat and not from the South...and he applied the term "Confederacy" a lot to refer to the nation and that there alone should have been my best clue!
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Finally! One that I can answer!
This is the guy that, had he gotten his way we would have the State of Cuba (take that fidel!). Yep, he wanted to buy Cuba from Spain. He was a Copperhead, a northerner who sympathized with the southern slavers and demonized abolitionists. His whole administration was about appeasement to the south which only resulted in heightening tensions in the border states of Kansas, Nebraska and Missouri.
Widely regarded as "America's Worst President" (I think Buchanan who came next was even worse) Franklin Pierce served from 1853 to 1857.
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Yeah, both were loathsome...and it says something that as bad as Pierce was Buchanan was worse...Buchanan tried to walk the middle ground and got steamrolled...how one can say secession is illegal and military action to prevent it is illegal was bound to have his ass rolled! But I think Buchanan gets worse ratings than Pierce because it all began to unravel under him, but I think Pierce was the final straw and is technically worse than Buchanan...Buchanan was just a misguided fool, he should have taken a SCOTUS appointment and left politics to someone more astute...Pierce went beyond the Missouri compromise and openly supported the Kansas-Nebraska Act that virtually assured bloodshed and made the expansion of slavery in the western states the gasoline to propel the issue of slavery into elections and Civil War! The Cuba thing was just a tropical version of Kansas-Nebraska, and you know you blow chunks when your own party cans your ass after one term and replaces you with a blubbering old fool like Buchanan! Without Pierce there is no secession, no Civil War, not in 1860 maybe, maybe later on if no breakthrough on the impasse was reached, but for sure the Civil War was assured once Pierce took office. And please note, Pierce beat war hero Winfield Scott in the election of 1852 whom he served under and the fact that the Whig platform differed little from the Democrat platform led the rowdy Free Soilers to bolt and make it easier for Pierce to beat Scott...now, where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, we're living it! Like the Whigs the GOP will die out.
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By what measure could either of them be worse than Barry?
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By what measure could either of them be worse than Barry?
Neither one comes close to the stench that is Øbongo. All I was saying was that Pierce was widely regarded at the time of being the worst to-date.
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AttaBoy Soup --- Franklin Pierce is the soothsayer of that sentence.
As stated, Pierce was considered terrible partially caused be drinking which finally was the cause of his death [cirrhosis of the liver]. Buchanan took that claim from him, then was relieved by Warren Harding. I do believe that the current thing to reside at 1600 will hold the title for hundreds of years to come, hands down.
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AttaBoy Soup --- Franklin Pierce is the soothsayer of that sentence.
As stated, Pierce was considered terrible partially caused be drinking which finally was the cause of his death [cirrhosis of the liver]. Buchanan took that claim from him, then was relieved by Warren Harding. I do believe that the current thing to reside at 1600 will hold the title for hundreds of years to come, hands down.
Comparitively, Warren Harding was NOT a bad president. His success in fighting off a recession and preventing a depression makes Obongo, Carter, Ford, etc, look like sniveling children, in weakness and incompetence. He SHOWED how to cure economic problems, while they all perpetuated them.
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AttaBoy Soup --- Franklin Pierce is the soothsayer of that sentence.
As stated, Pierce was considered terrible partially caused be drinking which finally was the cause of his death [cirrhosis of the liver]. Buchanan took that claim from him, then was relieved by Warren Harding. I do believe that the current thing to reside at 1600 will hold the title for hundreds of years to come, hands down.
Comparitively, Warren Harding was NOT a bad president. His success in fighting off a recession and preventing a depression makes Obongo, Carter, Ford, etc, look like sniveling children, in weakness and incompetence. He SHOWED how to cure economic problems, while they all perpetuated them.
No Harding was not that bad...and unlike Clinton he kept his libido in check once he entered the White House, sure before then he referred to his manpart as "Jerry" in love letters to his mistress while Governor, but he had more respect for the office than most...and I like Smilin' Cal who came after him, he is underrated, and may have had the most common sense of any of that era and then some...and even Hoover gets a bad wrap for the depression but he didn't cause it but he did make it worse by injecting more government, and then that prick FDR came along and made Hoover look like a statist wannabe!
And no, in the pantheon of worst of the worst, Obama will be number one hands down...followed by whatever order of losers you wish to pick!
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I mentioned Harding only after doing the research, on the first 42 presidents lives, that I did for a gift to my grandkids. Attempting to get a fairly good cross reference, after reading the polls of;
Schlesinger 1948-1962 / Murray-Blessing survey of 846 historians in 1982 / Chicago Tribune poll 1982 / Siena 1982,1990,1944, & 2002 poll / Ridings-McIver 1996 poll / C-Span 1999 poll / Wall Street Journal 2000,2005 poll / and a popular opinion done through Washington College poll, I totalled their findings and divided by 8 for an average.
I posted this before, but here are those results - personally I don't agree with all ......
1. Abraham Lincoln [ranked without finishing 2nd term]
2. George Washington [both were less than .01% difference]
3. Franklin Roosevelt
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. Theodore Roosevelt
6. Ronald Reagan
7. Harry S. Truman
8. Andrew Jackson
9. Dwight D. Eisenhower
10. James K. Polk
11. John Adams
12. John F. Kennedy [ranked without finishing term]
13. James Madison
14. Woodrow Wilson
15. James Monroe
16. Grover Cleveland [non-consecutive term, ranked together]
17. William McKinley [ranked not finishing 2nd term]
18. John Quincy Adams
19. William Howard Taft
20. George W. Bush [ ranked after only 1 term]
21. Martin VanBuren
22. Rutherford B. Hayes
23. George H.W. Bush
24. Lyndon Baines Johnson
25. Chester Arthur
26. Gerald R. Ford [ranked not having full term]
27. Herbert Hoover
28. Benjamin Harrison
29. Calvin Coolidge
30. Richard Nixon [ranked even though resigning 2nd term]
31. Zachery Taylor
32. James E. Carter
33. William J. Clinton
34. John Tyler
35. Millard Fillmore
36. Ulysses S. Grant
37. James Garfield [ranked but did not serve full term]
38. Andrew Johnson
39. Franklin Pierce
40. James Buchanan
41. William Henry Harrison [ranked but only served 30 days]
42. Warren G. Harding
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That ranking is based on educational brainwashing.
FDR and Teddy?
and Lincoln may have been one of the worst.
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Many in the South might disagree with Lincoln and I can understand that. To me he is a mixed bag, on the one hand he did not start the Civil War that began a long long time ago...if the Founders could have passed something under Washington to set an end date for slavery the issue could have been avoided, and the right of secession could be in operation today without the stigma of slavery. He was one of the most gifted writers and speakers ever to occupy the Presidency. The South rejected the Corwin Amendment that would have secured salvery where it existed, but obviously they wanted expansion and saw it as the best means of exerting control over the North. Once Union victory was within reach that proposed Amendment was scrapped, but it was made moot by the Emancipation Proclamation anyway. Repsonding to Southerners firing on Fort Sumter and trying to hold the union together cannot be much of a surprise reaction by anybody. The practice of slavery is barbaric and it tainted the South's cause, providing cover for the excesses of his reign...notably the Revenue Act of 1861 that created the first Federal income tax, the military draft, the Confiscation Acts (which arguably could be looked at as the first of many acts detrimental to private ownership as it gives the government the authority to determine what is or is not proper), the creation of paper money (introduction of fiat, not in of itself bad, but once the 1913 FRA came along the games began and then Nixon removing the gold standard made the Fed the unchallenged master puppetmaster) and one could argue setting up an Ag Dept set the stage for government intervention in farming which really it didn't need to meddle with, they could have limited their role to marketing American goods abroad and not needed to establish a new bureaucracy, but bureaucracy was born here and never ceased growing from here on out! This is when the executive began to become imperial, which is ironic given that Lincoln initially saw his role in much the same way as the Whigs had, let Congress legislate, let the courts limit and let the executive manage. But management took on a whole new meaning because of the war, so in that regard the South cannot be held blameless for helping to create the Federal monster.
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As stated - I don't agree with all....... with that said, I looked at the project I did for my grandkids as being as impartial as possible without a personal slant. That is one reason I was very happy I finished it before the thing at 1600 was elected.
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Please name the only President to be attacked by a "killer rabbit" that penetrated secret service protection as it swam with malicious intent toward an unarmed Commander in Chief who had to fend of the attack with a canoe paddle.
For the answer (on the honor system) follow the link below to the attached newspaper account.
"Killer rabbit" (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/jimmy-s-fable-t16708.html)
Confirmation links -
Wabbit 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident)
Wabbit 2 (http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/jimmy-carter/videos/jimmy-carter-vs-killer-rabbit)
::hysterical:: ::rolllaughing:: ::laughonfloor::
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Carter. I didn't even have to peek.
/two days older than dirt.
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You get the cookie.
Seriously, I can't give you one, you gotta get it yourself. ;D
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Carter. I didn't even have to peek.
/two days older than dirt.
Heck, that was '79. I have socks older than that! ;')
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I have socks older than your socks. ::evilbat::
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My socks don't last anywhere near that long! lol!
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Whatever happened to old Rusty
Haven't seen him in a long time
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Must be in the forest with the lion and the scarecrow. :)
But seriously, don't know hope all is OK.
Trap has been gone a while too. ?
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Admins have you sent up a flare ? ::thinking::
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Yes. A few. Here and emails. No response from trap. I don't know what to think.
About Rusty, he pm'd me in August to say he was having to pull the plug for a while because of work and a heavy load in a class he was taking. He wished us "nice folks" well and thanked us for putting up with him.
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It's all you can do. Trap is surprising me I would have thought he would let us know if something was up. Hope all is well.
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I have never played 'Presidential Trivia' before - but here's a question (see attached graphic).
Which a-hole, masquerading as the POTUS [code-name 'Biotch-Boy'], who regularly gets down on his knees with Reggie Love & uses hemorrhoid ointment to offset his unusually high homosexual activity in the Oval Office has had a suicide graphic bearing his image Tweeted by the Iranian Ayatollah?
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2015%20Mixes%20and%20Blogs/Obama_Suicide_zps9lxnlh6g.jpg)
BONUS Question: which member of this board would be overjoyed if the president in question actually committed suicide & blew his effing Muslim/Marxist brains out all over the Rose Garden???????????
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Ain't gonna happen. Said subject thinks too highly of his brain ..........
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It's all you can do. Trap is surprising me I would have thought he would let us know if something was up. Hope all is well.
Amen. ::praying::
PS-And good to know about Rusty, thanks Pan.
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Ain't gonna happen. Said subject thinks too highly of his brain ..........
I agree, he is the biggest POS to ever hit our shores...but people with his level of narcissism rarely commit suicide...unless it is the byproduct of hurting others that backfires...and certainly not until their bunker is about to fall to enemies.
But to Pablo's point...even if it did happen...I think the better question would be who here would not be overjoyed.
Not that POTUS Biden makes me want to cheer... ::mooning::
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Anybody ready for some more Presidential trivia? Have been doing research on the first ladies now, except for this one [Lady- now thats a push].
Question; Who was the 1st First lady to be photographed ?
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Just a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) but, Mary Todd Lincoln.
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Just a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) but, Mary Todd Lincoln.
Not a bad guess. I think that photography was viable in the 1830's or 1840's. So if it was a photograph of FLOTUS while her husband was in office that would mean Pierce or Lincoln (Buchanan was a bachelor). Since you chose Mary Todd, I'll go with Mrs. Pierce (don't know her name).
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Both were good guesses, unfortunately they both were wrong. The 1st First Lady to be photographed was President John Tyler's second wife Julia Gardiner Tyler that was First Lady from June 26, 1844 until the end of his term, March 4, 1845.
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I want him to live a LONG life of penitence like Jimmy Carter has.....in shame and humiliation as the worst President ever. I do not wish to see him made into a dead hero.
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Dead hero/live asshole...talk about lousy choices...but I admit I do like the finality of the first...and I think the martyr crap is way overblown...the fatigue factor with this insufferable douche is immense. A live walking-talking Ex-POSOTUS would just never ever STFU and the presstitutes would give him a platform everywhere he goes and any new POSOTUS trying to undue the least of his nefarious deeds would be under unrelenting attack. Trump and Cruz are perhaps the only people alive right now with a chance to ignore and ridicule that noise, anybody else will bend over like a cheap hooker.
Call me silly, but that seems a worse Hell to me.
Sorry to jack your thread Rusty, back to trivia!
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Hell Libertas, you aren't jacking the thread, as I said in a joke awhile ago " I'm here to forgive your sins, not to discuss your community service" - [well not forgive your sins, but I do go along with your community service ideas on the subject]. ::cool::
Now back to trivia;
This first lady is the only one born out of the United States, in another country - who is she ?
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Well, if we're talking extraterrestrial that would have to be mooshie ;')
(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uu8d-xUQyzg/VmBIn6CZaSI/AAAAAAABZ3s/AaV_OyvpOzQ/mo-grinch-2%252520copy_thumb%25255B76%25255D_thumb%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)
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Jeepers! Those pics are not for the weak, 'Soup! ::hysterical::
As to Rusty's question I'll offer Jackie Kennedy.
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Soup, the one you showed is from Uranus.
Or somebody's
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Jeepers! Those pics are not for the weak, 'Soup! ::hysterical::
As to Rusty's question I'll offer Jackie Kennedy.
I got that one from Michelle Obama's Mirror: http://www.michellesmirror.com/ (http://www.michellesmirror.com/)
If you haven't checked them out, please do yourself a favor and take a look.
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Sorry Libertas, but Jackie was born in Southhampton, NY
The only First Lady born out of the U.S.A. was 'Louisa Catherine Johnson Adams - born in London, England Feb. 12, 1775, and the wife of President John Quincy Adams.
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Yeah I figured it might be somebody back that far......I had some doubts about the well-traveled Monroe...I am ashamed to say I forgot all about JQA's sweetie.
::facepalm::
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Next Question...
Since President #1, George Washington, [Martha] until and including President #43 George W. Bush, [Laura]; How many "First Ladies" [with that distinction*] have there been ?
*There have been 'acting' and those called 'hostesses', but they are not considered "First Ladies"
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My turn for a SWAG.
Since there's only been 43 presidents and a couple of them were bachelors one would think that the number couldn't be higher than 43. But I think that there was at least one or more remarriages while in office so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 44.
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I'll go the other way...41.
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Because of Marriage, and death the number of 'Acting First Ladies' has been 3
'Hostesses' have numbered 5, most notable - During Jefferson's administration since his wife died long before his presidency Dolley Madison would serve as his 'Hostess' on occasion, before becoming First Lady during her husband's own 2 terms.
And then the officially recognized First Ladies number '40' thru and including Laura Bush.
[personal note - I had finished my research prior to this thing we are stuck with today being elected so doing the First Ladies the other thing in the White House has not been included]
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So with the thing...I was right? ::evil::
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So with the thing...I was right? ::evil::
Yep - but in my mind [feeble as it is], I discount this as a non-administration - a plague on the U.S.A.
Oh well, next question...
Grace Coolidge had 2 white collies, what were their names ?
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Freedom & Liberty?
Seriously, no idea. Only WH pet I can remember a name for is Checkers.
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Rob Roy and Prudence Prim where her dogs names.
Try this one;
What did Betty Ford say to Richard Nixon as he left the White House in disgrace ?
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No takers on Betty Ford's comment to Richard Nixon. Answer is "Have a nice trip"
Try another - Next;
Which First Lady yielded to pressure from her husband not to have corrective surgery for her
eyes ?
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Had to be somebody with pretty eyes, eh? Does that mean a pretty FLOTUS?
We had one of those? ::rimshot::
Sooner or later I have to be right...Jackie?
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Sorry again Libertas - Julia Grant is the First Lady, she had 'crossed eyes' and he said "he liked her eyes crossed." --
I know ""strange"" - hope it was because medicine was not that advanced then and he didn't trust it !!!
Okay next question -- This future First Lady had a child by her first husband, the child died the same day as his father. Who was the wife that would become First Lady ?