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Obama says he’ll be taking ‘executive actions’ without Congress on ‘regular basis’ to ‘heal the econ
Published: 11:37 PM 10/24/2011
By Nicholas Ballasy
"President Barack Obama told an audience in Nevada on Monday that he will be regularly announcing “executive actions” his administration will take to “heal the economy” without the “dysfunctional” Congress.
“I’m here to say to all of you and to say to the people of Nevada and the people of Las Vegas, we can’t wait for an increasingly dysfunctional Congress to do its job. Where they won’t act, I will,” Obama said.
“I’ve told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take without Congress, steps that can save consumers money, make government more efficient and responsive, and help heal the economy. And we’re going to be announcing these executive actions on a regular basis,” the president said.
Obama then explained the home mortgage refinancing plan that his administration announced on Monday.
“The barrier will be lifted that prohibits responsible homeowners from refinancing if their home values have fallen so low that what they owe on their mortgage is 25 percent higher than the current value of their home,” he said. “And this is critically important for a place like Las Vegas, where home values have fallen by more than 50 percent over the past five years.”
“If you’ve got a $250,000 mortgage at six percent interest rates, but the value of your home has fallen below $200,000, right now you can’t refinance,” Obama explained. “You’re ineligible. But that’s going to change. If you meet certain requirements, you will have the chance to refinance at lower rates, which could save you hundreds of dollars a month, and thousands of dollars a year on mortgage payments.”
Virginia Democratic Rep. Jim Moran told TheDC last Thursday that he would like to see the Obama administration refinance every home mortgage to three and a half to four percent without congressional approval. (RELATED: Obama admin. to offer home re-fi plan regardless ‘of how deeply underwater they are’)
“The banks aren’t doing it, but the federal government can borrow money at three-and-a-half percent today,” Moran said. “It would reset the economy, and I think it’s the one thing that would most quickly get this economy back on its feet.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/24/obama-says-hell-be-taking-executive-actions-without-congress-on-regular-basis-to-heal-the-economy/#ixzz1bo78QqEJ (http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/24/obama-says-hell-be-taking-executive-actions-without-congress-on-regular-basis-to-heal-the-economy/#ixzz1bo78QqEJ)
WHAT?!!
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Hear that congress-bitches?! Duh Wun doesn't need your asses anymore! You, the constitution, y'all archaic and useless!
Fine, let's have it out in the open, time to get to rat-killin', and there be a lot of rats running around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!
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Hear that congress-bitches?! Duh Wun doesn't need your asses anymore! You, the constitution, y'all archaic and useless!
Fine, let's have it out in the open, time to get to rat-killin', and there be a lot of rats running around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!
All I can say is BO, stinks!!!!!!!!!!!! ::pimp::
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Hear that congress-bitches?! Duh Wun doesn't need your asses anymore! You, the constitution, y'all archaic and useless!
Fine, let's have it out in the open, time to get to rat-killin', and there be a lot of rats running around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!
All I can say is BO, stinks!!!!!!!!!!!! ::pimp::
Guess we're OK here, but there must be alot of people running around out there sporting nose plugs...
::whatgives::
::facepalm::
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Hear that congress-bitches?! Duh Wun doesn't need your asses anymore! You, the constitution, y'all archaic and useless!
Fine, let's have it out in the open, time to get to rat-killin', and there be a lot of rats running around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!
All I can say is BO, stinks!!!!!!!!!!!! ::pimp::
Guess we're OK here, but there must be alot of people running around out there sporting nose plugs...
::whatgives::
::facepalm::
I think it is a French thing but, I hear it is all the rage in Liberal Circles! ::puke::
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I know it's against the law to even in passing say something like involving the assasination of a President.
My question is: Do we even have a President any longer? Or is he a dictator?
Do the laws against the comments in the first line above apply if you are talking about a dictator and not a President?
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I know it's against the law to even in passing say something like involving the assassination of a President.
My question is: Do we even have a President any longer? Or is he a dictator?
Do the laws against the comments in the first line above apply if you are talking about a dictator and not a President?
It seems, what we have here is a stalemate. 40% haven't a clue as to what in the F is going on. 20% know, but, aren't saying. Another 20% likes what they see. That leaves the rest of us to worry, fret, seethe, and swear. Hope it is catching on, that's all I can say!
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Or is he a dictator?
::gaah::
Well, he obviously failed at being President.
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I don't know about you guys, but ever since McCain was declared the Republican candidate for president in 2008, I have had a terrible sense of dread hanging over my head and have actually been worried about the future. I remember all the carefree days of my youth and early adulthood when the most I thought about government was "how much do I have to pay in taxes". These days I live in constant fear that the America that I knew and loved will never be the same if it will exist at all. This "dictator" that occupies the white house is the basis of all that anxiety. The sooner he is gone the better, however I feel it may be too late. It seems that everything that is happening around the country as well as the world are conspiring to be a perfect storm that will eventually destroy the human race and there is little that anyone can do to stop it. There are too few intelligent people, that see it happening, to be able to slow it down let alone stop it, and the sheeple (useful idiots) that are the masses don't seem to care or are too stupid to even see the wool being pulled over their eyes or the games that they are willing pawns in.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRxMQhn0WAg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRxMQhn0WAg&feature=player_embedded#)!
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I know it's against the law to even in passing say something like involving the assasination of a President.
My question is: Do we even have a President any longer? Or is he a dictator?
Do the laws against the comments in the first line above apply if you are talking about a dictator and not a President?
He's a freaking usurper anyway. He was never eligible because his father was a Brittish Subject
See here:
Minor v. Happersett (1875) - to directly construe Article 2 Section 1's natural-born citizen clause in determining a citizenship issue as part of its holding and precedent. In this unanimous decision, the Supreme Court defined a "native or natural-born citizen" as a person born in the US to parents who were citizens; a definition which excludes from eligibility both Barack Obama and John McCain
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Another question is, what do you do if you have a President clearly exceeding his Constitutional authority, but a Congress that would never impeach him? What if a President cast aside all pretense to legitimacy and just started out and out committing high crimes, but again the Congress had enough willing accomplices that impeachment was a non-starter?
It seems that somewhere in these scenarios, the very rule of law is at a failing point. We are, truly, living in some dangerous times you guys.
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We are. It's an indictment of Congress that it -- they -- will not step up to protect their authority, thus, ours.
I'm gonna need a longer piece of paper.
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I haven't even heard a Republican speak out about this particular power grab, let alone speak out with alarm or outrage.
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I haven't even heard a Republican speak out about this particular power grab, let alone speak out with alarm or outrage.
They haven't, because they want the president to continue. It is one more step to having a tyrannical government. The Republicans are just waiting their turn to pretend they are different than the Democrats and do the same things themselves. Patriot Act anyone?
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"It seems that somewhere in these scenarios, the very rule of law is at a failing point. We are, truly, living in some dangerous times you guys."
That is it G, and it is a potent recipe for civil war.
"It's an indictment of Congress..."
Yup. And that list just keeps on growing...
"I haven't even heard a Republican speak..."
Big blocks of people in congress better start piping up real fast and start filing court challenges toot sweet IDP or we'll be enjoying civil strife soon enough!
"...they want the president to continue."
I dunno Delnorin, they covers a lot of ground, but no doubt the Ruling Class elements within the GOP just might be stuppid enough to think they can gain control of this power. They must be disabused of such foolishness.
I am not seeing a happy end here people, not at all...
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I used to post tin foil hat comments and laugh at comment like "Bilderburg". These days it'll make you ::thinking::
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Yeah, somebody's been adnvancing an agenda we don't like over the course of many decades...but we know who most of those players are...so looking for more boogiemen is probably understandable, but it also could be overblown in many instances. For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, we know who are enemies are!
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The Architect of Extra-Constitutional Actions for The Regime - Bill Daley. Figures, another Chi-Town Thugocrat!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obamas-chief-of-staff-its-been-brutal-ungodly-we-need-to-push-the-envelope-fk/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obamas-chief-of-staff-its-been-brutal-ungodly-we-need-to-push-the-envelope-fk/)
“You can just feel this electorate is very volatile. So strap yourself in.”
Sounds like a warning! I guess fears of a forthcoming declaration of martial law are not to be discounted!
These fothermuckers are playing with the kind of conflagration they have no hope of controlling!
They better hope God has mercy on their immortal souls...I won't be no where near as forgiving with their mortal bodies!!!
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Frankly , I don't feel bound by an "executive action" and I don't give a swift sh*t who the executive is !
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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.
When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?
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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.
When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?
They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.
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By Design? If so, whom is the Model? Perhaps, The Third Reich?
Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review
"The Office of Management and Budget estimates that about half of all federal employees perform tasks that are not "inherently governmental"...
Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review
"The United States' deep and structural financial imbalances are the result of decades of overpromising and overspending. With a near-stagnant economy, an already heavy debt burden and the looming explosive growth of programs such as Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid, Washington must take significant steps to get spending under control. While President Obama repeatedly promised on the campaign trail in 2008 that he would perform a line-by-line review of the federal budget, eliminating waste and cutting excess programs, it does not appear that any such process has yet taken place. When it does, however, a few principles can help to guide the process that will ensure that the review is effective and comprehensive in addressing the nation's budgetary woes, says Veronique de Rugy, a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center.
First, a reviewing committee must target and eliminate the most obvious examples of wasteful spending. These include duplicated programs or those that perform the same function, such as the 47 job training and 56 financial literacy programs that exist throughout the federal government.
Second, serious scrutiny must be given to those programs and agencies that are either unable or unwilling to assess their own effectiveness and impact.
Third, the government should recognize functions that it currently performs that can easily be passed onto the private sector. The Office of Management and Budget estimates that about half of all federal employees perform tasks that are not "inherently governmental," lending credence to the claim that government has expanded far beyond the realm of public necessity.
Finally, spending cuts should include cuts to federal programs that ought to be left to state and local governments. This encourages state-centric solutions, locally tailored policies that take advantage of region-specific circumstances and greater fiscal discipline.
These four principles together offer a comprehensive strategy for tackling the federal budget and implementing the necessary cuts to reverse the current direction of federal finances."
Source: Veronique de Rugy, "Administration Efforts on Line-By-Line Budget Review," Mercatus Center, October 5, 2011.
For text:
http://mercatus.org/sites/default/files/publication/Administration-Efforts-on-Line-By-Line-Budget-Review.pdf (http://mercatus.org/sites/default/files/publication/Administration-Efforts-on-Line-By-Line-Budget-Review.pdf)
For more on Tax and Spending Issues:
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=25 (http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=25)
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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.
When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?
They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.
I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny? I sure as hell am not. Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term? Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot? I sure as hell don't! And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions. The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it. So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising. Thus, my recent harpings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists! It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take. Anything else is a bunch of if's and but's and a load of self-denial IMO.
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I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny? I sure as hell am not. Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term? Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot? I sure as hell don't! And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions. The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it. So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising. Thus, my recent harpings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists! It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take. Anything else is a bunch of if's and but's and a load of self-denial IMO.
::clapping::
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I heard mentioned on the "news" he was activating two new EOs today but I didn't catch what they are.
When the hell is Congress going to act to restrain this sht?
They're not going to. We've been had. Levin estimates that 2/3 of the freshmen we sent to Congress last November have been fully co-opted by Boehner & The Boys. They should all be primaried. I feel like, as a civilization, we are approaching a Rubicon, where getting primaried will be the absolute least of their concerns.
I'm beginning to think the Rubicon has already been crossed...does anybody see any credible attempt to push back against all this budding tyranny? I sure as hell am not. Do people really think a new ABO POTUS is going to come riding to the rescue and undo every single piece of this crap in the first 100 days let alone one term? Especially if the ABO POTUS is a Ruling Class idiot? I sure as hell don't! And we haven't even talked about congress at all...IMO there is not enough new blood that could get into either chamber to effect any much more than superficial changes in those moribund institutions. The Rubicon has been crossed, what is needed now is an effective strategy to answer it. So far this bunch isn't doing squat and the next crop isn't looking all too promising. Thus, my recent happenings on having more issues with idiots in the GOP than in democrat circles...we know who the latter are and they will never change, and they won't be ever be effectively dealt with unless and until the former is purged of Ruling Class footdraggers and apologists! It is the right action to take, regardless of the effect on general elections and regardless if we think we have the time necessary to effect it, but it is the right approach to take. Anything else is a bunch of if's and but and a load of self-denial IMO.
Therein Lies the problem, Bush came in and did his 8 years with blinders on and if Romney is elected he will do the same. What that means, another Obama type Liberal in 4 or 8 years. In fact, none of the Candidates I see running would do anything about the Liberal problem. Republicans in general would do nothing about the Liberal problem.
There was only one in all the prospective Candidates who may have run, and that was Sarah Palin. Well, the establishment Repubs, and the Mainstream Media and the Liberals in general knocked her down, and now we have squat. What Conservatives need is a Teddy Roosevelt type Bull, with a Reaganesque attitude. She is still waiting, need to give her a call before it is to late.
Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!
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If nominated, she would run, but people of latter day America are not predisposed of the requisite mettle for such a bold act.
Of the current crop only Cain holds any chance to upset the Ruling Class apple cart, being he is the only remaining outsider in the mix.
(Yes, I am discounting Paul, so PaulBots begone! Paul is beyond outside, he's too effing n-v-t-s nvts!)
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It's so frustrating when I bring up Cain with people I know. So many people are of the belief... He's not electable. We must get behind Romney because he's the only one that can beat O'Bummer.
It's like people just give up on something better because they're scared that it might be work/difficult to actually fix something with a candidate you're not fully embarrassed to have voted for.
Another thing I want to vent about....
Fox News goes on about Cain being conservative... and Romney being more moderate.
Moderate?
Why don't they just come out and say... Romney has more socialist and communist tendencies?
The word moderate is defined as what? A sellout? Someone without a spine? Someone that will do and say anything to be liked by people that want to destroy their way of life?
My definition of Moderate: Frick'n douche bag.
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It's so frustrating when I bring up Cain with people I know. So many people are of the belief... He's not electable. We must get behind Romney because he's the only one that can beat OBummer.
It's like people just give up on something better because they're scared that it might be work/difficult to actually fix something with a candidate you're not fully embarrassed to have voted for.
Another thing I want to vent about....
Fox News goes on about Cain being conservative... and Romney being more moderate.
Moderate?
Why don't they just come out and say... Romney has more socialist and communist tendencies?
The word moderate is defined as what? A sellout? Someone without a spine? Someone that will do and say anything to be liked by people that want to destroy their way of life?
My definition of Moderate: Frickin douche bag.
The problem: "Settling!" Romney would be a good president for a couple of years, maybe even 4. After that, another Obama! All the current Candidates are settling. No different than 2008. The future sucks, because Liberals will mount another charge, and that ain't healthy. If we had a true Conservative, we could then make way for the new and coming Republicans, like Rubio, or West, or better yet, Ryan. This will not happen with the current crop, business as usual, no real reforms. Everyone remember 2010, after the election? We said never again, well guess what? They're back, and what are we going to do about it? ::praying::
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...Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!
The filing deadline is Monday. If you're gonna talk her into entering the primary race, you better talk quick and smooth!
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...Lets face facts, the only Person on the Right, Man enough to stand up against Obama and the Liberal Juggernaut is Sarah Palin!
The filing deadline is Monday. If you're gonna talk her into entering the primary race, you better talk quick and smooth!
Weekly, at least! I think, she thinks I am a fruit loop! ::whatgives::
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I get really angry when I hear people make dismissive comments about Cain having run Godfather's Pizza. "Pizza man" and "a guy who ran a pizza chain" comments. What have we become when someone who established a reputation of coming into businesses on the brink of bankruptcy, and turning them around in a short time to profitable enterprises, is dismissed as somehow being inadequate for the job? Especially when you contrast this with all the fawning over the towering intellect of the current occupant, who never held a real job at any time in his life.
Most of the problems with our economic, fiscal, and social policies are precisely because we haven't had more "pizza men" in office. We seem to have allowed the creation of a sort of technocratic neo-feudal arrangement, where the political class (both in elected office and the bureaucracy) are the equivalent of the aristocracy and clergy from the original feudalism. They are more or less groomed from birth to spend an entire career in some government sinecure, detached from the where/why/how of actual wealth-generation. And the cherry on top is that they harbor an undisguised and haughty disdain for the people who actually do real work, people like Cain.
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I get doubly disgusted when I see conservatives disparage Cain's private sector experience as somehow inadequate to the task. People hate politicians, but they want to run him down because he's not a politician?
But Cain's response is picture perfect, and it needs to be repeated as a mantra: "How's THAT workin' out for ya?"
I think Barone was onto something (http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/columnists/barone/article_3657c9ee-ee93-5330-8066-218fa1e252f1.html) the other day. I think Cain is weathering his gaffes and polling well because people are taking an assessment of the man's character, and like what they see. And the fact that he has never held a political office AND is being scourged by the "experts" is very attractive to a lot of people.
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We seem to have allowed the creation of a sort of technocratic neo-feudal arrangement, where the political class (both in elected office and the bureaucracy) are the equivalent of the aristocracy and clergy from the original feudalism. They are more or less groomed from birth to spend an entire career in some government sinecure, detached from the where/why/how of actual wealth-generation. And the cherry on top is that they harbor an undisguised and haughty disdain for the people who actually do real work, people like Cain.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Brit_Hume
Brit Hume was born Alexander Britton Hume in Washington, D.C., the son of Virginia Powell (née Minnigerode) Hume and George Graham Hume. He attended St. Albans School at the same time as Al Gore and graduated from the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia, with a Bachelor of Arts in English in 1965.
http://celebrityprepschools.com/ (http://celebrityprepschools.com/)
This page is a jaw dropper. Prep school graduates go on with their lives but how
many public personalities are prep graduates really pops the bubble thought that
"we all worked our way up" and gives proof to G's quote.
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I think Barone was onto something the other day. I think Cain is weathering his gaffes and polling well because people are taking an assessment of the man's character, and like what they see. And the fact that he has never held a political office AND is being scourged by the "experts" is very attractive to a lot of people.
The media pulls the same stunt on the other candidates, Bachmann and Perry for example.
He has faced down his adversity with a rough business skill and has succeeded in breaking
through the media barrage. Doing so speaks well to his managerial skills. So far, neither Bachmann nor Perry have been able to do this.
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IDP and Charles, both correct.
Cain was a topic of discussion today with a group of businesspeople I meet with each month. Overwhelmingly, everyone appreciated his skills as a manager as his campaign unfolds, even if it lacks a little polish.. The guy exudes confidence and character. He is not an insider. He is a leader. Leaders pull companies from the brink. Leaders make hard decisions. Leaders create an atmosphere people want to follow, when there is substance and track record. We can have a disagreement with a leader we respect, because it will not result to chaos.
If I wanted a slick talkin' telepromtor puppet, i'd vote for obama. If I want a slick talkin' non telepromptor politican, i'd vote for romney. I want neither. The American people have the opportunity to break the antiquated, broken and unreliable mold of what is considered a good presidential candidate. It's time to break the mold.