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Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: Dumb A** Republicans letting Obamacare stand
« Last post by Pandora on March 25, 2017, 05:21:05 PM »
It's for the best that this failed.  The system would still be unbearable to people, only they'd be calling it TrumpCare instead of ObamaCare.

Since the Tea Party movement of 2010 "Repeal!" was the battle cry.  From where did this "...and replace" bullsh*t originate?

I listened to some of the Freedom Caucus members tick off what this bill didn't do:  didn't end the regulations to make it possible for premiums to come down, didn't erase the individual-must-buy mandate, didn't do away with the pre-existing conditions mandate, didn't, didn't, didn't.  What it did do was leave people's kids on their parents insurance until age twenty-six and increase the incidences of checks mailed to "poor" folks under the auspice of Earned Insurance Tax Credits for them to pay the insurance premiums they'd done nothing to ratchet down.

Further, a lot of what they were being told they couldn't do with this bill in reconciliation was "ruled out by the Senate Parliamentarian", an unelected position, and they were told this by the House 'Leaders'.  One of the items was they "couldn't" rule out is illegal aliens receiving the insurance tax credit subsidies.

Come to find out the Parliamentarian was not consulted on this stuff, so THEY LIED.

Yes, best this eGOP bill die because it was a segue to Obamacare Lite and nothing more.  Having "the Secretary (of HHS) shall" make other changes would have left the door open for the next Democrat Regime to sashay on through and reinstate all the bullspit.

I don't know which of 'em I hate more, the eGOP leadership or the freakin' Left.  Meh, at this point, it looks like there is no difference.  They all love 'em some big gummint.
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It's for the best that this failed.  The system would still be unbearable to people, only they'd be calling it TrumpCare instead of ObamaCare.

Since the Tea Party movement of 2010 "Repeal!" was the battle cry.  From where did this "...and replace" bullsh*t originate?

   ::thumbsup::
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General Board / Re: I don't know what to think about this...The Big Bend
« Last post by John Florida on March 25, 2017, 12:53:32 PM »
::ohno::

B...Bb...Bbbut Emperor B Hussein O left us eight times better off than when he took over from the evil Bush II?!

Somebody lied!!!

In fact a lot of somebodies lied...


   NO NO they didn't lie the evolved.
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I guess we have to resign to the fact that Obamacare is here to stay forever. 


No, just till it fails,and then the F'ing Democrats won't get to blame the "evil right wing" - Nope. This baby belongs to them  -  who didn't read it before passing it, in the dead of night, using an unconstitutional process.

This Ryan Care was a sh*t sandwich which would have served no purpose but to make it fail faster and giving the Democrats someone to blame. . Trump should propose his own plan (legal across  State lines etc)  and try again next year.. wen the Pubbies feel their elections coming up.

And if it doesn't fail till after the Dems are back in office, and they try to so single payer. well, I suspect that will be the last straw for a lot of people and  we may finally see the government repair kits brought out.
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Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: Dumb A** Republicans letting Obamacare stand
« Last post by richb on March 24, 2017, 06:13:24 PM »
Career Republican politicians.     That's who.      This thinking that government is the answer to everything infects so many.    Too many Republicans think they can run big government better then the Democrats,  they think that's what the republican brand is.    Maybe that's what it is now.   (Republicans, we are somewhat less incompetent about burning up your wealth,  enjoy that bone). 

Just because repeal is going to cause people problems is NO excuse to not repeal.   NOBODY gave a sh*t about the problems Obamacare caused coming in,  why do they care now about it going out?   

There is going to be disruptions.    Yes, it sucks,  but we been in this state for almost a decade already.   Republicans need to develop thick skin and not let the lamestream press and Democrats create the narrative. 

Its funny how glorious Obamacare all of a sudden became.   If anything its unified Democrats (many that once spoke of it's many ills) to defend it.   

Government running "healthcare" is no solution.   Places like most of Europe have had it for a half century.   Its still sucks,  and it will never get better.   Why is that so hard to understand? 

I guess we have to resign to the fact that Obamacare is here to stay forever.   Because Republicans aren't committed to turning the ship around. 

Someday there will be a president that will make Trump look like a boy scout.   People are going to regret that we didn't change when we had the chance.    I guess we deserve the disaster that awaits.   It's going to be bad,  at some point people will have to take it in their own hands.   Its going to be a bloody mess.    It comes clearer and clearer why Trump won,  people are getting to the end. 

In four years when Trump doesn't get reelected (because Obamacare continues to drag down the economy)  the first day in office the new Democrat president will revoke Donald's executive orders turning off most of Obamacare worst features.  Democrats have no problem with the individual mandate and the heavy taxes that government "healthcare" requires.   Their voters don't pay taxes.   
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Considering a worthless Gustavus degree will cost $215,800, all in, you'd think they'd teach their soon to be bankrupt students that the path to open immigration, which they seem to be advocating for, isn't through signs but through the ballot box.
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Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: Dumb A** Republicans letting Obamacare stand
« Last post by Glock32 on March 24, 2017, 05:50:51 PM »
It's for the best that this failed.  The system would still be unbearable to people, only they'd be calling it TrumpCare instead of ObamaCare.

Since the Tea Party movement of 2010 "Repeal!" was the battle cry.  From where did this "...and replace" bullsh*t originate?
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The lamestream will yawn no matter how bad it is.  Sorry but that is true.
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Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: Dumb A** Republicans letting Obamacare stand
« Last post by richb on March 24, 2017, 05:49:14 PM »
I didn't support this turd either,  but they just aren't getting it.
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Radical Islam/GWOT / Re: Lille's Turn
« Last post by Glock32 on March 24, 2017, 05:45:41 PM »
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