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Civil War
« on: February 08, 2017, 09:27:26 AM »
Certainly it is clear that the progressives have declared war on anything they do not agree with, but at a level none of us have seen in our lifetime.  What is notable in this war (so far) is that the shooting has not started. 

You know, I really feel sorry for the young people coming up who may have conservative or christian views as their lives may greatly be affected if people know their views.  Opportunities we took for granted growing up will be taken from them if their views are known.  For me, at 60, I don't give a Damn!  I tell people what I think and if they don't like it they can kiss my fuzzy butt. 

Back to the civil war.  We have never seen a time like this in our lifetimes.  I am really wondering where the next 4 years are going to lead.  I am very interested to hear from members here on where you think we are going to end up in the next few years.  Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 10:42:08 AM »
I am 39 and it's definitely nothing I have ever seen in my lifetime.  Some older people have told me that it's still nothing compared to what the radical lefties were doing in the 60s and 70s though.  I don't know though, to me it seems like there is potential for this to suddenly get that bad or worse.  There is a whole new element to it with social media organization.  The radical left of today also has a stronger monopoly on the administrative state than they did back then.  I mean look at Berkeley -- those cops were clearly under orders to not lift a finger.  At least in the 60s the leftist pukes got themselves some stick-time with the police.

We have to also consider the desperation factor that is different with this current crop of bolsheviks.  In the 60s and 70s they were in their "long march" mode and thought the future was theirs. They could weather setbacks.  Now they're in a position of seeing that they were on the goal line and fumbled the ball, we recovered it. I think they were convinced they were almost there, almost to the point that they would secure permanent ownership of our country and culture.  If we are allowed to actually advance the ball back down the field in the opposite direction, such as with immigration reform and border security, it could very well put the Left's ambitions out of reach and they know it.  So they are in desperation mode right now, desperate to prevent that from happening.

There is no telling how much they are going to up the ante.
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 11:30:46 AM »
I am 60 and lived thru those times in the late 60s and 70s.  Certainly there was substantial unrest back in those days but I believe we are at a different level today.  There is a lot more organization today both here in the USA as well as around the world. In addition, today the progressives have almost total control of all of our infrastructure including schools and corporate America.  They may have had some influence some decades ago, but not like today.
 
In my home town of Louisville Kentucky, we have been a sanctuary city for many years but they keep it very quiet.  We have more than our share of immigrants both legal and illegal but they are never in the local news as to numbers or how they are getting here.
 
But staying quiet might be changing. Last night our public school board passed an ordnance making the public school system a safe zone for illegals.  I suspect our city and our mayor will follow very soon. Like others around the nation, I am watching the city go to hell with more and more crime and killings. 

But then everything has been proceeding according to plan.  The progressives are just pissed that Trump has interrupted the time table for the completion of the takeover. 

Like history in the century's before it is coming down to the conservative christian's ( and Jews) against the rest of the world,  and while we may have won a small battle with the election of Trump, we are losing the war.  At least that is how I see it.
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 12:14:17 PM »
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... It’s easy to sit in your lounger, with your laptop across your knees, and pontificate on the false motivations of the Leftist activists. “Oh, they’re just attention whores!” “Oh, they just want their safe spaces!” “Oh, they’re just useful idiots being played.” “Oh, they’ll quit as soon as the money stops.” There’s a very real problem with that though, and it’s called underestimating your enemy. If you don’t believe that a dude who is out, in wintertime, in a protest/riot, and eating some riot cops baton, as he receives a solid washing with “hickory shampoo,” is not a dedicated True Believer, you’re deluding yourself.

If you think that some twenty-something kid, who just saw his buddy take a bean bag round from a PD riot gun, in the dick, and then ignored his friend’s screams, to continue advancing, is not dedicated, and a True Believer, you’re f**king stupid.

If you think POTUS is going to magically save you? You’re dumb. Large urban areas and entire states are telling the federal government to go f**k itself on the immigration issue (and granted, the states are wrong on this one, but that doesn’t change the fact that this—as I mentioned, in detail, in Forging the Hero—is symptomatic of the collapse of the American Empire.) Things are not normal, and if you’re still stuck in your normalcy bias about “Make America Great Again,” you’re WAY behind the learning the curve.

I’ve talked with a number of friends in recent days; police officers and public services personnel, in large urban areas, across the country. None of them are taking this sh*t lightly. A fireman friend, from a major urban enclave on the east coast, that has been the scene of a number of ethnic conflicts in the last year or two, posted the following on FB recently,
“They are organized, they are violent. The cops aren’t shooting back because when some Tumblr sh*t biscuit doxxes them, their kids will be targets. Molon Labia and snowflake bluster isn’t cutting it anymore.
I’m a f**king fireman and have had body armor issued. That should say something very loudly and clearly.”

A cop friend told me, in private conversation, “Yeah, man. It’s serious. We know it can kick off at any moment. Sitting in your cruiser, at a stoplight; writing a citation, sitting at lunch. We just have to be ready to rock, all the time.”

Another cop friend, “Man, I’ve upped my off-duty EDC to three twenty-round mags for the Glock, and I keep eight loaded mags for the AR in the plate carrier behind my seat. It’s getting weird out there.”

So, if THEY get it, why don’t you, Mr. Expert Prepper/Survivalist?

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Re: Civil War
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 01:12:05 PM »
I am 60 and lived thru those times in the late 60s and 70s.  Certainly there was substantial unrest back in those days but I believe we are at a different level today.  There is a lot more organization today both here in the USA as well as around the world. In addition, today the progressives have almost total control of all of our infrastructure including schools and corporate America.  They may have had some influence some decades ago, but not like today.

I agree with this. I remember being aware of the turmoil of the 60's and early 70's but, since I wasn't affiliated with any of it, I wasn't emotionally bound to any of it - I was just an observer (and occasional combatant ;'} Nowadays everything appears contrived, manufactured, and phony.


In my home town of Louisville Kentucky, we have been a sanctuary city for many years but they keep it very quiet.  We have more than our share of immigrants both legal and illegal but they are never in the local news as to numbers or how they are getting here.
 
But staying quiet might be changing. Last night our public school board passed an ordnance making the public school system a safe zone for illegals.  I suspect our city and our mayor will follow very soon. Like others around the nation, I am watching the city go to hell with more and more crime and killings. 

My little town has gone hard-left in the last three years. It's like they're making up for the decades of Republicans who managed affairs previously. The mayor and most of the city council want to us to become a sanctuary city but they're afraid of losing the easy money. So they instituted a euphemistic dodge where they claim "Inclusive City" status. I guess we're on our own to try to figure out WTH that is supposed to entail!

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Re: Civil War
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 01:35:40 PM »
I'm just shy of sfetter's age, but my brother is right there (born in '57).  Most of the rabble out there are no concern for me if things go sideways...the handful of dedicated lunatics ready to take on the authorities are mostly criminals anyway...and between them and the bangers looking to take advantage of the situation should the police be called out in force...well, it's only until the rest of us get involved when things get really interesting, isn't it?  I mean if the left agitates all their criminal elements too hard and the sh*t breaks real hard...well, those cops and guards will be running home like us to protect them and theirs...it'll be the criminals and trapped urban zoo-mates in the meat grinder...and while that is going on the smart people will be getting to their BOL's before the grind in the cites lulls and the locusts expand out in search of new targets to vent their rage.  By the time they reach us, the reception should be quite gory...and what the military does will be interesting, within their and all LEO ranks sides will be taken, orders followed or not, elites and institutions defended or not...

Probably just a coincidence I saw this today...

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/army-preps-for-urban-warfare-in-megacities-mass-migration-disaster-and-inner-city-turmoil_02072017

"Entire cities will be locked down; door to door sweeps will often have violent ends."

Yeah.  Well, unless they deploy all assets to big cities or use artillery in place of no-knock entry...they'll be some cities left on their own.

And some of this happening in Brazil...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4198826/Brazilian-city-s-murder-rate-650-police-strike.html


Either way...

I don't care if I'm 60...70...80...whatever.  Not ever dropping to a knee to any of these leftist fascist a-holes.  I'd rather take as many out as possible before DIAPOB!
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 01:46:23 PM »
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2017, 01:48:18 PM »
You have to spank it on the bottom to get it to fly off the top.   :D

Aim well my friend! 

Oh, and good advice our dipshyts in progtardland should take extra care to remember...but they can remember now or later...their choice!



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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2017, 06:12:04 PM »
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2017, 07:55:31 PM »
I am 39 and it's definitely nothing I have ever seen in my lifetime.  Some older people have told me that it's still nothing compared to what the radical lefties were doing in the 60s and 70s though.  I don't know though, to me it seems like there is potential for this to suddenly get that bad or worse.  There is a whole new element to it with social media organization.  The radical left of today also has a stronger monopoly on the administrative state than they did back then.  I mean look at Berkeley -- those cops were clearly under orders to not lift a finger.  At least in the 60s the leftist pukes got themselves some stick-time with the police.

We have to also consider the desperation factor that is different with this current crop of bolsheviks.  In the 60s and 70s they were in their "long march" mode and thought the future was theirs. They could weather setbacks.  Now they're in a position of seeing that they were on the goal line and fumbled the ball, we recovered it. I think they were convinced they were almost there, almost to the point that they would secure permanent ownership of our country and culture.  If we are allowed to actually advance the ball back down the field in the opposite direction, such as with immigration reform and border security, it could very well put the Left's ambitions out of reach and they know it.  So they are in desperation mode right now, desperate to prevent that from happening.

There is no telling how much they are going to up the ante.

In the 60's there was nothing remotely close to a plurality of Americans who believed that socialism was a viable option for the United States, or on par with capitalism. There was also not the near universal disgust with politicians.

Add those current day realities to the already volatile mix, and comparisons to the 60s fall apart. We may not yet have witnessed the type of unrest like there was in the 60s, but the potential is far worse I think.
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2017, 11:39:30 PM »

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unning-Kruger much? “Hapless morons?” These “hapless morons” are off their f**king couches, engaging in the physical violence that the Right yammered about for the last eight years, without doing f**k all. I’m not condoning it, and certainly not supporting it, but intellectual dishonesty about skill at organization, and willingness to engage in violent direct-action is going to get a whole f**kton of “prepared militias” killed dead…and there ain’t no f**king restart to this game.

Gee, why isn't the right off their f**king couches? Because we don't  do amateur hour. These little thugs are trying it on for size, and in every case where they are challenged - by a little Asian guy in a library telling them to be quiet or a UPS guy walking in and stopping their flag burning,  they back right down. For they most part this is spoiled brats and grade school Bullies. They are totally willing to engage in violence, till there is a chance they will get hurt.   You are calling these little pussified cucks the "doers" - really?  They can't replace a garbage disposal and think electricity comes form the wall.

 I am sure that that type of dedication exists on the left, but I doubt it exists in the sort of numbers they would need to be effective. But say they up that ante and become organized AR-armed murder gangs... well, its not amateur hour anymore is it? 

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Comment on Sam’s page: ‘A blood bath.‘

My response:Yep. Because only one side has consistently displayed a willingness to get violent, right now, right here, despite the blatherings of the Right about ‘Molon Labe!’ and ‘From My Cold Dead Fingers,” etc….Talk is cheap. It will be a number of blood baths, but 99% of the victims are NOT going to be the Leftist pseudo-Anarchists that are willing to f**k sh*t up, already, without quality weapons at their disposal.

Thats because when the right gets violent we are not going to be half-assed about it. I think many of us have sat there, awake an night, unable to sleep,  thinking about pulling that trigger and what the circumstances need to be to justify it. . I have had 8 years to make peace with that thought, and when I decide the time has come, there won't be any moral qualms holding me back, but a righteous willingness to kill, and to kill them all. I cannot but think there are many others like me.   I think its fool hardy to think everyone on the right is unwilling to fight because tey haven't fought yet. It just takes time to come to grips with the failure of the rule of law.. and even when it fails, it seldom fails completely. Shots will be fired when it fails locally and temporarily- and then the temporariness becomes permanent.

The whole event will be a blood bath - for both sides.  There are sill something like 20% of conservatives in the cities. Most of them are gonna end  up dead. {Past performance is no guarantee of future results,as they say.

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My response: So, they’re smarter than you? Because, I can tell you what…fair fights? “Standup fights?” are a sucker’s bet. I decide to go hunting bad people, I’m going to be rolling up to their back door at 0430, while they’re sound asleep, and lighting their house on fire, while they’re still asleep inside. I’m only gonna stick around long enough to make sure nobody gets out before the house the engulfed. I’m into winning, not playing macho games.

Which is why this is going to be about sabotage and city vs country.  Got roving gangs ? Snipe them from 500 Yards and run away. I am too old for macho sh*t. Practice for hunting and practice for sniping look a lot alike.

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This is an actual civil war, as in a conflict between ideologically-opposed factions within the civilian and political population of a country. Like real civil wars, it is not going to be pretty. It’s not going to be armies, in pretty uniforms, fighting pitched, conventional battles. It’s going to be a matter of assassination, sabotage, hit-and-run raids, targeting ideological leadership figures, enemy families, etc.

As Matt Bracken pointed out in a recent Facebook post himself, we’re looking at more of a Balkans and/or Argentine “Dirty War” conflict. People just haven’t accepted that, because it doesn’t fit their mental images of what “war,” even “guerrilla war” looks like.

Well yeah. What the hell do you think has been keeping me up at night, as I contemplate potentially having to kill or orphan children?
I understand it, and I don't like it. I also know what will have to be done and have resigned myself to doing it. Looking for fights? No. I am confident that enough fights will come looking for me. But I would rather die fighting against it than live in the world the leftists would impose .. so there isn't a lot a choice here. But really who will the left choose as targets?  Rich neighborhoods in the cities no doubt - the flashy kind that people who want others to know they are rich live in... I will let you guess the typical politics of the people in those  houses.  The left  getting organized enough to bus people out to little towns to have a riot? Burn crops?  Kill livestock? Raid individual farmhouses?  Yeah I don't see it.  And the first town they did it to would tell 50 more like it what was needed in their own defense. They would kill the jackasses from 8 roof tops and 14 trees 400 yards away as they left the bus -that is if an IED didn't get the whole bus. What then - the left using armored transports?  Trump and the police aren't  going to hand those over.

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There’s a very real problem with that though, and it’s called underestimating your enemy. If you don’t believe that a dude who is out, in wintertime, in a protest/riot, and eating some riot cops baton, as he receives a solid washing with “hickory shampoo,” is not a dedicated True Believer, you’re deluding yourself. If you think that some twenty-something kid, who just saw his buddy take a bean bag round from a PD riot gun, in the dick, and then ignored his friend’s screams, to continue advancing, is not dedicated, and a True Believer, you’re f**king stupid.

Yeah, I expect that kid, being liberal never cared about his buddy anyway ( another tactical advantage we have by the way  - they really aren't fighting for anything other than the right to make you bake a cake or genuflect to their language.  Very inspiring.)   90%  of it is virtue signaling  to get chicks and that only works when you aren't dead and your pecker still works.  The question really is, after he has had his little shampoo, is he willing to do it again. My bet is no. He got his bragging/virtue signaling  rights in the battle of Berkley where the cops were told to stand down --  no need to fight again.
The ones that do it again- the ones who are willing to get shot dead  - those are the dedicated ones, and I don't think we have seen that adequately tested

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If you think POTUS is going to magically save you? You’re dumb. Large urban areas and entire states are telling the federal government to go f**k itself on the immigration issue (and granted, the states are wrong on this one, but that doesn’t change the fact that this—as I mentioned, in detail, in Forging the Hero—is symptomatic of the collapse of the American Empire.) Things are not normal, and if you’re still stuck in your normalcy bias about “Make America Great Again,” you’re WAY behind the learning the curve.

Does anyone here actually think Trump will save us or stop this? At best he buys us time, and puts the enemy into the position where they have to be the rebels. But we have already discussed that extra time may be working against us...

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“They are organized, they are violent. The cops aren’t shooting back because when some Tumblr sh*t biscuit doxxes them, their kids will be targets. Molon Labia and snowflake bluster isn’t cutting it anymore.
I’m a f**king fireman and have had body armor issued. That should say something very loudly and clearly.”

Yeah, that law and order is already over  and the collapse into tribal warfare will come to the cities first -  this will help them train good fighters (in an urban environment - which won't necessarily translate) which we may eventually face, but in the meantime, its causing dwindling numbers and issues within the cities. 20%  dead in the cities would pretty much ensure no more liberal victories at the polls.

It also means the cops will be spending more time training and organizing the people the need in their own areas, and leaving the ghettos on their own.

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This is about people burning down their neighbors’ houses and businesses, to run them out of town, over ideological differences. Look at the Balkans in the early 1990s.

This is about a group from one side, murdering the entire family—Dad, Mom, Brother, and baby Sister—of their neighbors, over political differences.

There’s nothing pretty or heroic about it. It’s about pragmatism. It’s not about dying for anybody or anything. It’s about changing the dynamic of the battlespace, so none of your people die…or at least, as few as possible.

Why does he think we don't understand this. Why do you think we got our lists man?

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You think anybody in mainstream America—the undecided majority in the current conflict—remembers Finicum? Go up to some random stranger, in the supermarket and ask. I got good money that says, 99 out of 100 are going to say, “Who’s she?”

And? History is always made by interested minorities.  If we get our 3%  participation, I am happy. the others? They are all going to hunker down and pretend it has nothing to do with them. Those are the people who are going to lie down on their beds and just never get up again

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Stand-up fights don’t make differences in this type of conflict, because the other side isn’t interested in them. Quit focusing on some macho, redneck John Wayne image of conflict, and focus on doing what works. Right now? That still means organizing, because, while it’s not “tacticool,” it’s way more important than running around in the goddamned woods in cammie jammies. That means, instead of worrying about running raids and ambushes, you should be focused on gathering intelligence information about the opposition’s leadership cadres in your local area, so you can set about changing their mindset, by focusing your PSYOP activities on a specific target audience (them).

What sort of psyop would you do? Changing their mindset?  Have you actually interacted with these people? Its questionable if they have minds of their own. They just repeat what the herd says because then the herd accepts them.  They don't understand a word of it, and they don't care if it make sense if they do. The only way to change a liberal's mind is blunt trauma.

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I can train a f**king monkey to run an AR or an AK in three days. Give me ten days, and I can bring a complete novice to a near-expert level of proficiency with the gun. That’s f**king easy. The hard part? Convincing somebody to actually use it. Convincing someone that they actually need to overcome the culturally conditioned aversion to interpersonal violence that Americans have been spoonfed for the last sixty years, is far more challenging than teaching someone the mechanics of gunfighting. Guess which side has already overcome that cultural conditioning? I’ll give you two hints: first, it’s not the guys typing away on FB about how they’re gonna “slaughter” Leftists, as soon as they get permission from their Mommy. Second, it’s the people that are already cracking complete strangers in the head with bricks, then putting the boots to the unconscious victims, before throwing a Molotov Cocktail through their car window.

When they know the riot police have been told to let them. Seriously these leftists haven't run into any real opposition yet- at least none likely to get them killed.  Are they willing to do violence? Sure. Are tey willing to die for their temper tantrum?  I am not so sure. He can train them in 3 days, but they have to be so sure that we are Nazis that they are willing to kill - not just beat people. They have to be willing to take the same risk of being doxxed as the police. Masks won't help them when we follow one home and torture him till he rats on his buddies.

I said above, we have had 8 years to think about it, and when we finally go out to do it, its not going to be about using  Bricks or boots. Its not going to be about scaring or terrorizing people ( which is what the left is attempting to do) and it certainly won't be about signaling our virtue to others.. I don't think anyone has confused what we need to do with being virtuous.  All we can claim is a desire of a virtuous end from the evil we will be needed to perform.  No,  it  will be about killing them. Plain and simple. No reprieve. No justification. This. Ends. Now.

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The Left has won far more dirty civil wars and insurgent conflicts than the Right has won. There are a host of reasons for this, but most notable is the aversion, on the Right, to give up the security of law-and-order. As long as there is a politician telling them, “Now, now, let’s all keep calm. Let the authorities sort this out,” the Right is content to sit at home and bitch about those juvenile delinquents. The Left? They’re all, “f**k THE MAN! LET’S MAKE IT BURN!” As long as there is a police officer in uniform…even if he is, like so many are currently, telling people, “Hey, we’re probably gonna be busy with other catastrophes when your personal catastrophe happens, so you’re on your own….” as long as he is on the job, the Right is going to say, “Meh, we’ll let the police do their job.” The Left? They’re going, “f**k THE MAN! KILL THE PIGS!”

And we have that long list of conflicts the "right" has lost ...oh wait. We just don't do this sh*t lightly do we?
I know perfectly well the cops will be home protecting their own families, with their own little militias. But as long as they are doing it in the cities, who cares? That is helping me.  If you are conservative and you are still in a city - God help you.  When the going gets tough, the tough get going. The smart left a long time ago.

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You want to be saved, you’d better be looking around and building what SF once upon a time called “CIDG,” or “Civilian Irregular Defense Groups,” among your neighbors and friends and families….you know…your tribe: the people in your local community that share your values and traditions

Most Small towns in rural areas already have this. Everyone already knows everyone. The police themselves will organize it.  The Sheriffs in Rural counties will probably co-ordinate larger groups. And those libtards? Yeah, we are watching , one wrong move and you are ridden out of town on a rail. But I expect most are clue-less moronic Democrats who vote democrat because daddy voted Democrat , and once the virtue signaling is seen as outing them - as a detrimental thing, you will see them change their public tune. They were just going along to get along wit PC culture and they will do the same with ours.

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You want to know how a Dirty War is fought, even on defense? With pistols, in urban areas. Guess what? I know a dude teaching a Clandestine Carry Pistol class in a couple weeks, in Arizona! He’s doing a CQB class the following weekend! If you live in motherf**king Arizona….with the cartels running sh*t through your neighborhoods every…single…f**king…day….and you’re not already keyed in on this sh*t? You’re too f**king stupid to save. So, why is it that my wife is telling me that we’re gonna have to cancel these classes, because there’s not been enough people interested in taking them? Because nobody wants to face the ugly reality, that it’s already started. It’s easier to sit on your computer, order multicam gear off Amazon.com, and talk sh*t about “open season on libtards!” than it is to face the task of somebody maybe telling you that you don’t know what the f**k you’re doing, after all, by bucking up and taking a class on sh*t that is actually relevant to you.

SO you want me to pay you money, to take a class on urban warfare with pistols , when 80%  of my enemy is in the city,  which I could just lay siege to? Where do these cities in Arizona get their water from? Hey maybe you should cut that off and see how it affects the cartel traffic? Besides, aren't  they selling this drug sh*t to the enemy?  I mean, isn't an enemy who is drug addicted , addle brained and generally unhealthy a good thing? Hell, can I make sure to somehow  get them some infected needles as well? How about some sh*t laced with poison? For a guy who talks big on tactics, there is an opportunity for infiltration sitting right in front of you.

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READ THE f**kING BOOKS! Yeah, they’re expensive. As someone pointed out, not long ago, they’re a f**king post-grad course in “how to be The Most Dangerous Man You Know.”Yes, I just pimped my own classes and books. Get over it. They’re that important, and that valuable.

Yeah, I noticed. Dude, I am old. I am never going to be the "Most Dangerous Man I know" - but I do make it a point to know such men. I am never going to be infiltrating some leftist-anarcho group  and trying to change thier mindset, and I am not driving my car into gangland looking to go bad guy hunting with my pistol. I will be organizing the like minded people like me - who by the way are not ready to train, and won't really be until  this gets worse.  They are willing to stock ammo, go to the range for 300-500 years practice  , and listen to me trying to get them ready to pull that trigger when we need them to. So we do what we can out here in real life. . We aren't all 20 something green beret wanna-bes and we know our limits, and if that limit ends up being able to protect my little dirt road, then so be it. If it is just being able to provide food to the men who are protecting my little road, that is fine too.  Logistics are no small feat - so if you can't fight, but you provide grub and a roof to fighters who need one, then that is what you can do. If you can reload brass and hand it out, then that is what you can do. If you can provide intelligence or accomplish sabotage, then that is what you can do.  Its not all fire fights with pistols, even if that is what you happen to teach.

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Re: Civil War
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2017, 12:09:15 AM »
Yeah, these guys who enjoy calling out keyboard commandos and Internet badasses are, in an ironic sense, guilty of ostentatious bravado in their own right.

I get tired of this "Yeah? Well those Leftists are actually out there in the streets, doing sh*t in meatspace while all the Molon Labe couch commandos peck at their keyboards!" crap.  There's a variety of reasons the Right isn't doing that, from morality to simply being too preoccupied with earning a living and keeping the lights on for their families, but the big one that these guys fail to acknowledge is that everyone on the Right knows the very second we did a fraction of what happened in Berkeley, suddenly all the resources of the police and the State would find cause for action.  The Left has a green light to do this sort of thing, and they know it.

Does that mean the Right is just going to slink away and submit?  On the contrary.  It means the anger is going to continue to build without any way of releasing the pressure, until it suddenly erupts uncontrollably and the Left starts getting back what they've been dishing out -- a hundred fold.
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2017, 06:54:30 AM »
"The only way to change a liberal's mind is blunt trauma." - Weisshaupt

Yeah, and if it is still moving or making sounds, repeat blunt trauma!
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2017, 07:47:46 AM »
Great discussion gentlemen, and as always thoughtful insight.  I feel as most do here and I believe that things are worse than we are hearing.  While I believe that there is a strong organization behind this decent, like many others I am not sure that these people understand what will happen to them when they really awaken that sleeping giant known as liberty and freedom.

One thing I am completely convinced of is that the only way to save this country and our constitution is that the left and progressives have to be put down hard!  Whether this happens in my life time or beyond I and saddened to say that I hope it does happen for the sake of all mankind both here and around the world.  We are the last place on earth with some degree of true liberty and freedom which is why powers both here and around the world want to destroy us so much.  If lost here, mankind will be facing hundreds of years or more of tyranny.

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Re: Civil War
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2017, 03:03:18 PM »
"There was also not the near universal disgust with politicians."

There still isn't much of that,  there is still so much trust given to politicians of both parties.  It's only disgust with the other parties politicians for the most part. 

There is still very little disgust with ones own party,  though some Republicans will be critical of their own sometimes.   But that is very rare among Democrats.   As soon as someone is critical from the other party,  the walls go up and defense is played,  even if the politician is a known crook.   Our crook is still better then your crook........

For example:  Liberal friend defends Hillary,  her words " I don't give a crap what she may have done".   In her eyes Trump is so bad we can ignore every crime Hillary has done.   Yes, really.     


Frankly,  I think we need much more universal disgust with politicians.   We will be a much healthier society is we can break the party labels off crooks and stupid people.   That's how we are divided today by the two major parties.    If we can call out crooks no matter who they are,  things would be better.   If she would call out crooks like Hillary,  we would have never had to deal with Trump. 

Liberals created Trump as much as Republicans did.


I don't see it changing until politicians start getting killed more often.  They do it because they know they are generally safe from being assassinated.   That would change quickly if that ends,  and its likely it will at some point.   People can only be pushed so far.


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Re: Civil War
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2017, 05:42:40 PM »
Many still talk about one party vs the other.  I do not think we have a two party system any longer.  It is all a big farce to fool the American people into thinking there are still two parties.  Regardless of the side of the isle,  all that polititans are interested in is power and money and making sure their families are taken care of.  Their actions have proved this time and time again.

If there were any true patriots in Washington who believed in the constitution and the good of the people, they would have impeached the last president early in his term. I trust none of them whether at the national, state, or local level.

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Re: Civil War
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2017, 07:06:00 PM »
20%  dead in the cities would pretty much ensure no more liberal victories at the polls.

Weisshaupt, I disagree. Surely you know dead votes count in urban areas.
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Re: Civil War
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2017, 09:47:43 PM »
As a soon to be 61 year old, who lived in a suburb of Detriot during the late 60's rioting, i'll tell you the difference. We lived in Dearborn, Michigan, well before it became the muslim capital of America. There was a main road, Telegraph Road, and during the riots you were stopped on the street and if your ass didn't belong you were turned away. I was a kid but I seem to remember sandbag blockades and plenty of police. Maybe someone can verify my memory.

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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2017, 10:30:43 AM »
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Stop giving me ideas! 

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