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ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« on: November 16, 2011, 01:01:01 PM »
Speaking of the ChiComs (may be sort of tangentially related to the mysterious pics?) ....

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A SATELLITE ground station in the West Australian desert is being used by the Chinese military to help locate Australian and US navy warships in the region.

The explosive claim has been made by the nation's foremost expert on space-based espionage, Des Ball, who says the government may have unwittingly acted against the national interest by allowing China to use the ground station at Mingenew to track Beijing's space satellites.

"This ground station would help China's space-based listening devices to more precisely locate the electronic emissions from aircraft carriers, destroyers and other navy ships," Professor Ball told The Australian.

"We're talking serious stuff here . . . why was the construction of this station never announced?"

Professor Ball's claims come as US President Barack Obama today begins a two-day visit to Australia, during which he will unveil plans for closer defence ties in a move that reflects growing concerns about China's military rise in the region.

The government established the satellite ground station at Mingenew, 400km north of Perth, in 2009 and gave approval for China's space agency to use the station to track Chinese satellites.

Canberra maintains all operations undertaken at the ground station, which is operated by the Swedish Space Corporation, are for "commercial and civilian activities", but Professor Ball says China makes no distinction between military and civil satellites.

China's use of the station was not revealed publicly until Hong Kong's English daily the South China Morning Post quoted Xie Jingwen, a deputy chief of the tracking system for China's space program, as saying it had "added Australia to its global network of ground stations".

Swiped from RTLM at Grouchy's.

Here's the link, but the body of the story came from him.

Further, I thought I heard on the "news" this morning that we are deploying 2500 of our troops to Australia now.  Anybody else hear anything?

Correction:  it had to have been Rush:

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RUSH: Obama, meanwhile, doesn't know where he is.  When he's in Hawaii he thinks he's in Asia.  When he's in Australia he doesn't know what time zone he's in.  And now he says he's going to send -- get this -- up to 2,500 troops, US troops are going to be sent to Australia to counterbalance the ChiComs' growing power there in the region.  That's gonna show the ChiComs we mean business, folks, 2,500 US troops.  I'm telling you, this is a show of force unlike the United States has ever demonstrated before.  We're not gonna be pushed around by the ChiComs anymore.  No way, folks: 2,500 US troops to Australia.

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 01:10:15 PM »
WaPo confirms .......

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CANBERRA, Australia — The United States announced plans Wednesday to establish a permanent military presence in Australia, part of a high-profile foreign policy shift toward Asia that is intended as a counterbalance to China’s growing power.

Starting next summer, the U.S. will send 250 Marines to bases here for six-month tours, eventually rotating 2,500 troops through the country. President Obama announced the partnership at a news conference with Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, describing it as a key step in his administration’s evolving emphasis on the Asia Pacific region as the U.S. winds down wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“We are here to stay,” Obama said. “This is a region of huge strategic importance to us.”

No, "the United States" did not announce; SCoaMF announced and I wonder who he surprised back home with his little announcement.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 02:18:28 PM »
It seemed beyond curious that the Aussie's would let the ChiCom's build any kind of ground station, and then announcement on troops...somebody playing both ends against the middle down there or what?  Gosh, wonder what Code Pinko thinks about this deployment?!

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 06:44:25 PM »
It seemed beyond curious that the Aussie's would let the ChiCom's build any kind of ground station, and then announcement on troops...somebody playing both ends against the middle down there or what?  Gosh, wonder what Code Pinko thinks about this deployment?!

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This is nuts  ::speechless:: China's been sewing up operating bases all along the sea route through the South China Sea to the Suez.  China wants the East China Sea, South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand (they are digging a shipping canal across Thailand) Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal for itself.  China is the major driver causing India to grow its navy. China also wants Taiwan back.  See  http://www.eaglespeak.us/search?q=string+of+pearls  and
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,991.msg10575.html#msg10575

As far as the Aussies selling tracking rights to China, they've been listing to port for a long time.
Obama rotating 250 marines at a time, priceless.  The guys ought to have a good time till TSHTF.



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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 07:19:15 AM »
It seemed beyond curious that the Aussie's would let the ChiCom's build any kind of ground station, and then announcement on troops...somebody playing both ends against the middle down there or what?  Gosh, wonder what Code Pinko thinks about this deployment?!

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This is nuts  ::speechless:: China's been sewing up operating bases all along the sea route through the South China Sea to the Suez.  China wants the East China Sea, South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand (they are digging a shipping canal across Thailand) Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal for itself.  China is the major driver causing India to grow its navy. China also wants Taiwan back.  See  http://www.eaglespeak.us/search?q=string+of+pearls  and
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,991.msg10575.html#msg10575

As far as the Aussies selling tracking rights to China, they've been listing to port for a long time.
Obama rotating 250 marines at a time, priceless.  The guys ought to have a good time till TSHTF.




Yes, the ChiCom's have been busy building port facilities and other bases from the Sea of Japan to the Arabian Sea!  Which makes Aussie complicity that much more egregious!  Are we still part of ANZUS or SEATO with them?  We ought to pull out if they're such fools!  Them and the anti-nuke Kiwi's can KMA!  But what does Stymie do, send a few Marines?!  For what?  R&R?!  Good gig for the Marines compared to where they could go, hope they can bring their families...if the SHTF families should be together, no matter where they are!

But you summed it all up nicely...nuts!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 08:22:25 AM »
Thanks for the link too CO, I saved two of the pics from the first link...it really helps to visualize the shipping lanes and ChiCom presence from Arabian Sea to East China Sea (the "string of pearls")...





Speaking from experience...I'd hate to be caught in the Staight of Malacca...it really chokes down as you reach Singapore and the Kra penninsula...but Sunda, Lombok & Makassar might be shorter but a hell of a lot tighter...there are only so maby transit points one can take and a lot of choke points!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 04:42:03 AM »
It seemed beyond curious that the Aussie's would let the ChiCom's build any kind of ground station, and then announcement on troops...somebody playing both ends against the middle down there or what?  Gosh, wonder what Code Pinko thinks about this deployment?!

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It looks like Stymie is faced with an  "Inconvenient Truth" of his own !  ::stirpot:: ::evil:: ::pokeineye:: ::popcorn::

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 10:40:57 PM »

Staight of Malacca -- The ChiComs are digging a canal across Thailand. 
It may be the Kra Canal, labeled on the second map.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 11:49:41 AM »
More sabre-rattling...er dragon belching...whatever they do over ChiComLand...

http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-hu-urges-navy-prepare-combat-160509787.html

I wanna start a pool for the over/under on deaths/mishaps on that carrier of theirs, if they dare a full operational deployment!  Would be fun following these clowns around the ocean, much easier to hone claws & fangs when there is a foreign playmate in the area!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 04:09:18 PM »
I'll give you 5-1 that one of the first dozen planes crash on takeoff and two crash on return! ::popcorn::
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 07:44:24 AM »
Heh, I'd go for any ratio above 3:1 for screw up's on landing vs any other mishap!

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 11:18:53 AM »
The Chinks are about to find out that a flight deck is one of the most dangerous places in the world .

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 07:23:16 AM »
Hu spouting off about South China Sea again, damned Imperialist swine...this territory belongs to the people's republic...all the natural resources are rightfully ours...blah blah blah...sounds like fricken Tojo, remember him Hu?  Oh wait, you are probably one generation removed from the "rape of Nanking", eh?

http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-hu-urges-navy-prepare-combat-160509787.html

ChiCom's....!

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 09:03:55 AM »

Navy, yes they will need many vessels to occupy all the ports they will controll.
China continues to add pearls to its string of bases.

China said Tuesday it is considering an offer from the Seychelles to host Chinese naval ships in the Indian Ocean island nation, highlighting the increasing global reach of a navy that recently launched its first aircraft carrier.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_CHINA_SEYCHELLES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-12-21-46-38

The Indians are aware of China's intent. 
Will the US wake up to China before they
control the shipping lanes from the China
Seas to the mouth of the Suez?

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 11:21:29 AM »
The brass is aware of it, getting The Regime and Capitol Hill to wake up is a much more difficult task.

And as far as Seychelles is concerned, they are a socialist state, so...figures!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 12:22:38 PM »
Didn't we just lose another drone in the Seychelles?
I guess we are just sharing our technology with the world now. ::facepalm::
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 01:10:58 PM »
Didn't we just lose another drone in the Seychelles?
I guess we are just sharing our technology with the world now. ::facepalm::

I wouldn't put it past our treasonous Ruling Class to be repaying part of their massive debt to China in the form of our military technology conveniently crashing in areas where the locals are cozy with the ChiComs.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 01:39:49 PM »
It was a different drone, but yeah, didn't hear what kind of shape it was in though...doesn't matter...Stymie will stammer in front of cameras and the result is the same...more technology in the hands of bad mofo's...

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 05:24:13 PM »
You all know that obama will say that just because he is the CinC it's not his fault that the bad guys are acquiring out tech the guys in the field are screwing up.   But in the same breath he note that HE did a great job getting bin Laden.

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 06:39:10 AM »
He's a legend in his own mind...everybody else see's him for what he is...except our indigenous leftists (heavily self-deluded is an understatement)...
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