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« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2012, 12:19:31 PM »
So, apparently this means the ChiCom's aren't interesting in being paid back and instead think we'll be too weak to respond militarily if we are too busy killing each other in the streets, leaving them as top dog on the world stage.  If true, I am compelled to think some of that contains a grain of truth, but it is not a given we wouldn't act and it is not given what China's fate might truly be.  In the end one should be careful what they wish for, they may get it, or worse yet, they may get it in a form they didn't expect.

This is the problem with Alex-- everything is tied back to the Elite/Bankers/Rothchild/Bilderberg/Illuminati/NWO conspiracy, which if it exists, probably does not include leaders in Russia or China. (If it did, would there be a reason for Obama to say stupid things on an open mike?  All that would be planned out - regardless of Obama's re-election chances-- and of course one could argue "false flag" - because that is what one does with contrary evidence when protecting a conspiracy theory)

If such a group does exist, its western. It doesn't control Islam, China, or Russia. It may be in control of the banking system, and encouraged by their success in creating the EU, only to deliberately crash it and make Brussels more powerful as PIIGS fall into the net ( Funny how Iceland seems to be getting along just fine since they said F' off.)  They could try it here, and with the right leaders, they will sell off our natural resources, but I think it will require them to keep the Federal Puppet govt, but unlike other countries, we have individual States that may very well leave the union, and unlike Europe, we have a Tea Party movement that protested the spending- proving there is a will to resist here. The U.S. will still be hard to subjugate. So yeah, they may have to resort to plagues or nukes if that is really the goal.

However the goal may just be to disrupt America to the point where we can no longer play, allowing world control to go to  China and Russia and Islam.  Without a doubt if an Illuminati exists they have an over inflated sense of their own importance and power, and  as you said "they should be careful of what they wish for" - I don't think they have the power and control they think they have.   China and Russia have a lot to gain by the fall of Europe and West, and these bankers are probably being encouraged by them in that plan. Islam isn't that organized, but I am sure they will take most of Western Europe.  I hate watching Alex. It freaks me out.

 

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Re: Dollar Being Isolated
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2012, 01:13:41 PM »
Agreed, Illuminati power overstated and seeking outright violence is leaving too much to chance, I can read influence and a measure of control into (insert name here), but patently suicidal behavior or ascribing a measure of control to shadow groups that is beyond their control stretches reality too far for me to accept.
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Re: Dollar Being Isolated
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2012, 02:17:49 PM »
Oh oh, looks like someone is predicting the Yen to implode!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chinese-business-media-cautions-jgb-bubble-ready-burst-anticipates-40-yen-devaluation

If this comes to pass it spells big trouble for the ChiCom's, who are (as we see above) trying to become the top-dog currency!

There is so much competing liquidity, inflation, debasement and business cycle stuff going on that getting a clear picture out of all this noise and make anything approaching a valid prediction a real challenge, but trends overall around the globe are not good and if economies truly are global, then the entire thing could be like one big zipper on a fat man and if the fat keeps growing and hits a point where the buttom fails the zipper (and all those local economies that make up its teeth) are going to fly apart!
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Re: Dollar Being Isolated
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2012, 07:46:36 AM »
I'm going to post this link here, since my big take from this article is not so much the doom & gloom over the state of our balance sheets (one can argue the degree of incestuousness between assets and liabilities and between nations from now till eternity) but the single largest item on anyones sheet is currency.  That being said it is no wonder why currency wars and the policy of central bankers is so scrutinized, much on this score can affect other areas on the balance sheet with a snap of the fingers.  It also makes me more concerned over the zipper effect I mention above.  I cannot recall a point in history where the economies of the world were so in peril from so many quarters.  If sanity is lost it is a simple matter of when not if it all goes sideways.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/worlds-balance-sheet
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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2012, 10:53:22 AM »

Are you saying that they are so equally balanced that if they
were put together the sum would be Ø?

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« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2012, 11:21:03 AM »
Oh no, there are variances and what makes them "balance" is often smoke & mirrors.

Think MF Global and a grander scale and ask the victims how it worked out for them.
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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2012, 12:28:21 PM »
I'm going to post this link here, since my big take from this article is not so much the doom & gloom over the state of our balance sheets (one can argue the degree of incestuousness between assets and liabilities and between nations from now till eternity) but the single largest item on anyones sheet is currency.  That being said it is no wonder why currency wars and the policy of central bankers is so scrutinized, much on this score can affect other areas on the balance sheet with a snap of the fingers.  It also makes me more concerned over the zipper effect I mention above.  I cannot recall a point in history where the economies of the world were so in peril from so many quarters.  If sanity is lost it is a simple matter of when not if it all goes sideways.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/worlds-balance-sheet
Look at this:
http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2010/06/old-hyperinflation-question.html

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This has been coming at the dollar for a long time now. The hyperinflation is already present in all the debt. Every penny of one man's debt is a penny of another man's retirement plan. It will all be liquidated at the speed of a lightning bolt when the US Treasury market finally burps, or when the paper gold window finally mandates "paper only".

The dollar's value will already be decimated before Bernanke even gets started issuing the high denomination bills like we saw in Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany. Yet he will issue them, as that will be the only way for the US government to pay its current account, its debt service and its other liabilities, all denominated in dollars, some structural and indexed to inflation, others simply nominal. But it will be a mad dash to print like "crazy".

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« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2012, 12:34:24 PM »

Those words are so emotional, they cause my
heart to flop around like a fish.  I'm more
comfortable with a simple  Ø.

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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2012, 07:18:30 AM »
Yeah, I think this dude is thinking along the right lines.  The PTB's are and continue to go all-in on printing, we hear QE3 is coming, well duh, it was another case of when not if!

And the worst part is there are few people alive who know anything about Weimar Germany (and what followed!) or Zimbabwe, so the natural human tendency toward denial (IT can't happen here/to me!) is going to cause a lot of people to tune out and get literally caught with their pants down.

The level of pain coming our way is on a scale that very few will be able to comprehend let alone adapt to.

But all is well, that's what the PTB's keep saying...

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Re: Dollar Being Isolated
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2014, 07:46:13 AM »
The VOR - BRICS are morphing into an anti-dollar alliance...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-02/brics-are-morphing-anti-dollar-alliance

 ::saywhat::

Really?  Well, that admission is only several years late...silly me, I always thought the initial purpose of the BRICS was to replace the world reserve currency status of the dollar from the get-go?

Huh...well, better they realize that now than later, eh?   ::)
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Re: Dollar Being Isolated
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2014, 08:13:41 AM »
BRICS propose to launch rival devolpment bank...cut out the IMF & WB...

This weeks Summit to include -



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-14/anti-dollar-alliance-prepares-launch-brics-bank

Step one - poach dependents.

Step two - deepen other eocnomic ties.

Step three - dump the dollar.
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« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2014, 04:18:54 PM »
Unsubstantiated Rumors that Germany may join BRICS
Little meat here to prove it, just  one guy who MAY know something, but an interesting theory if true-- and it WOULD explain why we were keeping close tabs on "allies" via illegal spying (Merkel etc) .

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« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2014, 08:39:42 AM »
Swiss and Chinese enter Swap Agreement  as Dollar-ized Panama implments prices controls

Yes the price controls will operate as they always have and create shortages and are just stupid banana Repbulic stuff - but they were implemented because of INFLATION in the DOLLAR, and that is the point.  We export much of our inflation at the moment

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According to the Panamanian government, the price of basic foods rose 4.1% from April 2013 to April 2014.

Over the last five years, in fact, food prices have risen more than 24%

So real dollar  inflation in Panama is running at 4% -- as this keeps up and as the BRICs create an alternative, more and more of these dollars will be coming home....  the inflation is going to be MASSIVE.   The day the new Caliphate in the Middle East announces the end of OPEC and direct trade with BRICs  is the day the Dollar will die.... and that day is just not looking too far off anymore.

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« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2014, 02:42:20 PM »
I doubt the German thing, but they are pissed about spying and not getting all their gold back.  The OPEC thing could be a nasty bit of business.
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« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2014, 02:27:14 PM »
Here we go...fellow BRIC layers laying another foundation for a post-dollar world...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/russia-and-india-begin-negotations-use-national-currencies-settlements-bypassing-dol
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« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2014, 09:11:18 AM »
And more

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-07/first-brics-bank-now-brics-food-bank

The "sanctions" are what again?  Restrictions on Russia trading in the dollar? 
All Obama is doing is accelerating the process.  Of course, he wants to.
This economy will die on his watch.

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« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2014, 11:27:27 AM »
With luck that is not all that dies... 
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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2014, 08:01:19 AM »
Putin calling for the end of the PetroDollar, again...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-14/putin-says-petrodollar-must-die-dollar-monopoly-energy-trade-damaging-russias-econom

...the US would have to be further weakened before another substitute could gain traction though, and ever since Russia launched its totalitarian land grabs in Ukraine the Europeans have been mostly in lockstep with the US, those pesky spying scandals on pals pushed aside for now...

Getting closer though, aren't we?  Lucky for Putin and his BIRCmates they have O'Bongo to dick with...
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« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2014, 07:06:24 AM »
Step two...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/gazprom-begins-accepting-payment-oil-ruble-yuan

Nail?  Not hardly, just the start...need more nails...
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« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2014, 04:11:16 PM »
Even if we weren't committing cultural suicide there would be moves to dethrone the dollar.  That's just the nature of the game,  nothing stands still.   That's why this all is so grating to me, because now we are laying down and letting it happen.

It probably would have happened already,  if the rest of the world wasn't even a bigger basket case then we are.   There really is no paper currency that COULD be the world standard at the moment.   Every one thinks the Chinese could,  but they have fundamental problems that are even worse then ours.   I really don't see a socialistic or communist system being able to do the job,  as most in those governments couldn't even pass a basic and dumbed down economics course.

I think the reality is there will be no "world" currency.  At least not a "paper" one  and not one "run" by a government.   Maybe some sort of electronic one or better yet several.   Run by private interests,  not a corrupt government or near government like the FED. 

Something like that may* be better,,,,,  in the long run.

*provided it could be free of manipulation by government or crony interests.   I know that may not be possible or maintainable.