Just the fact that there is a television network that would allow this is a testament to the irreconcilable nature of the divide.
I would just as soon someone like this ceased to exist. His life isn't worth anything to me. Planet earth is worse off for his presence.
May he, his family, his friends, and anyone who openly or secretly smirks with delight at his "audacity" perish a painful death, and an unmarked grave.
--SNIP--
. . . But he continually resorts to this kind of homophobic poison when he’s angry. Just as Mel Gibson revealed his true feelings about Jews in his drunken rant, so Baldwin keeps revealing his own anti-gay bigotry. These outbursts reveal who he actually is.
I should add that this is a free country and he has an inviolable right to use these words. But he has no right to pretend in any way to be a tolerant liberal when he is anything but, when it comes to gay people.
So many liberals, of course, give him a pass when they would never dream of doing so with anyone who was conservative or Republican. Even after his bigotry was on full display, MSNBC hired him for a new show as a liberal pundit. For too many of them – especially gay establishment liberals, like the tools at GLAAD or the terminally naive like Hilary Rosen – there is a glaring double standard here. It seems to me that this double standard cannot stand any more. And this raging, violent bigot cannot be defended any longer.
Too little, too late...will have zero effect...when the SHTF all these traitors are forfeit...
Too little, too late...will have zero effect...when the SHTF all these traitors are forfeit...
I always have a story to make my point. Can't help it. So here it goes.
I hate to admit it, but I lived with my husband before we were married. Back in those days there was an "incident". He'd been acting like a jack-ass, which, when you are living together, can be a lot worse than when you are married.
Trying to please him, make him feel better, I I looked in our poor persons cabinet and found a carrot cake mix. Cool! I'll make him a cake. So I did.
I could not afford the ingredients for frosting, but I had powdered sugar and who knows where I got them-paper doilies. After the cake was done, I placed a dolie on top of the cake and sifted powdered sugar over it, lifted it carefully and there was a beautiful pattern left behind!
When he came home in his typical rotten mood, I presented it to him. What'd I get for my efforts? "Carrot Cake! You made me carrot cake? I HATE carrot cake!
I was heartbroken.
BTW, don't think my husband is a tyrant, ok? He had some very large issues he was dealing with, lots of luggage that is not always easy to overcome or deal with.
Anyway. More than 20 years later we are invited over to our new neighbors house for a BBQ. After we all ate, I went to the kitchen to see if I could help out. Our new neighbor was preparing desert. You guessed it.
Carrot Cake.
So what do I do?
I say "Margaret, that looks delicious!"
She says "I hope everyone likes carrot cake"
I say "like it? My husband LOVES carrot cake!"
She says "well then, I'll cut him a bigger piece"
I say "Are you sure you have enough?"
She says " oh, dear, I have plenty, he can have as much as he wants"
I say (LOL) well, then you wouldn't mind if he had seconds? I mean, he'll probably scarf this up and say he's had enough to be polite. He won't let you give him seconds."
She assured me that my dear husband would get seconds no matter how much he declined.
And he did.
::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
When somebody is unreasonable, it might take time, but one day they will eat their words.
Too little, too late...will have zero effect...when the SHTF all these traitors are forfeit...
I always have a story to make my point. Can't help it. So here it goes.
I hate to admit it, but I lived with my husband before we were married. Back in those days there was an "incident". He'd been acting like a jack-ass, which, when you are living together, can be a lot worse than when you are married.
Trying to please him, make him feel better, I I looked in our poor persons cabinet and found a carrot cake mix. Cool! I'll make him a cake. So I did.
I could not afford the ingredients for frosting, but I had powdered sugar and who knows where I got them-paper doilies. After the cake was done, I placed a dolie on top of the cake and sifted powdered sugar over it, lifted it carefully and there was a beautiful pattern left behind!
When he came home in his typical rotten mood, I presented it to him. What'd I get for my efforts? "Carrot Cake! You made me carrot cake? I HATE carrot cake!
I was heartbroken.
BTW, don't think my husband is a tyrant, ok? He had some very large issues he was dealing with, lots of luggage that is not always easy to overcome or deal with.
Anyway. More than 20 years later we are invited over to our new neighbors house for a BBQ. After we all ate, I went to the kitchen to see if I could help out. Our new neighbor was preparing desert. You guessed it.
Carrot Cake.
So what do I do?
I say "Margaret, that looks delicious!"
She says "I hope everyone likes carrot cake"
I say "like it? My husband LOVES carrot cake!"
She says "well then, I'll cut him a bigger piece"
I say "Are you sure you have enough?"
She says " oh, dear, I have plenty, he can have as much as he wants"
I say (LOL) well, then you wouldn't mind if he had seconds? I mean, he'll probably scarf this up and say he's had enough to be polite. He won't let you give him seconds."
She assured me that my dear husband would get seconds no matter how much he declined.
And he did.
::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
When somebody is unreasonable, it might take time, but one day they will eat their words.
Too little, too late...will have zero effect...when the SHTF all these traitors are forfeit...
I always have a story to make my point. Can't help it. So here it goes.
I hate to admit it, but I lived with my husband before we were married. Back in those days there was an "incident". He'd been acting like a jack-ass, which, when you are living together, can be a lot worse than when you are married.
Trying to please him, make him feel better, I I looked in our poor persons cabinet and found a carrot cake mix. Cool! I'll make him a cake. So I did.
I could not afford the ingredients for frosting, but I had powdered sugar and who knows where I got them-paper doilies. After the cake was done, I placed a dolie on top of the cake and sifted powdered sugar over it, lifted it carefully and there was a beautiful pattern left behind!
When he came home in his typical rotten mood, I presented it to him. What'd I get for my efforts? "Carrot Cake! You made me carrot cake? I HATE carrot cake!
I was heartbroken.
BTW, don't think my husband is a tyrant, ok? He had some very large issues he was dealing with, lots of luggage that is not always easy to overcome or deal with.
Anyway. More than 20 years later we are invited over to our new neighbors house for a BBQ. After we all ate, I went to the kitchen to see if I could help out. Our new neighbor was preparing desert. You guessed it.
Carrot Cake.
So what do I do?
I say "Margaret, that looks delicious!"
She says "I hope everyone likes carrot cake"
I say "like it? My husband LOVES carrot cake!"
She says "well then, I'll cut him a bigger piece"
I say "Are you sure you have enough?"
She says " oh, dear, I have plenty, he can have as much as he wants"
I say (LOL) well, then you wouldn't mind if he had seconds? I mean, he'll probably scarf this up and say he's had enough to be polite. He won't let you give him seconds."
She assured me that my dear husband would get seconds no matter how much he declined.
And he did.
::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
When somebody is unreasonable, it might take time, but one day they will eat their words.
That's cruel and unusual punishment....
Good story, KC.
Yes; it would be fitting if one day Bashir was "served" his own "Darby's dose".
There is a "war on women" but it isn't issuing from the Right.
Good story, KC.
Yes; it would be fitting if one day Bashir was "served" his own "Darby's dose".
There is a "war on women" but it isn't issuing from the Right.
Would t you agree that it makes no difference where it originates. Some call it karma, some just say what goes around comes around. Both are true.
Too little, too late...will have zero effect...when the SHTF all these traitors are forfeit...
I always have a story to make my point. Can't help it. So here it goes.
I hate to admit it, but I lived with my husband before we were married. Back in those days there was an "incident". He'd been acting like a jack-ass, which, when you are living together, can be a lot worse than when you are married.
Trying to please him, make him feel better, I I looked in our poor persons cabinet and found a carrot cake mix. Cool! I'll make him a cake. So I did.
I could not afford the ingredients for frosting, but I had powdered sugar and who knows where I got them-paper doilies. After the cake was done, I placed a dolie on top of the cake and sifted powdered sugar over it, lifted it carefully and there was a beautiful pattern left behind!
When he came home in his typical rotten mood, I presented it to him. What'd I get for my efforts? "Carrot Cake! You made me carrot cake? I HATE carrot cake!
I was heartbroken.
BTW, don't think my husband is a tyrant, ok? He had some very large issues he was dealing with, lots of luggage that is not always easy to overcome or deal with.
Anyway. More than 20 years later we are invited over to our new neighbors house for a BBQ. After we all ate, I went to the kitchen to see if I could help out. Our new neighbor was preparing desert. You guessed it.
Carrot Cake.
So what do I do?
I say "Margaret, that looks delicious!"
She says "I hope everyone likes carrot cake"
I say "like it? My husband LOVES carrot cake!"
She says "well then, I'll cut him a bigger piece"
I say "Are you sure you have enough?"
She says " oh, dear, I have plenty, he can have as much as he wants"
I say (LOL) well, then you wouldn't mind if he had seconds? I mean, he'll probably scarf this up and say he's had enough to be polite. He won't let you give him seconds."
She assured me that my dear husband would get seconds no matter how much he declined.
And he did.
::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
When somebody is unreasonable, it might take time, but one day they will eat their words.
Great story. I especially like how you got creative with the doilies!
What's funny? When my husband and I first started dating I would bring him to the occasional family function, then as we got more serious he started attending Thanksgiving and Christmas, etc...at the relatives/parents. It was probably a good two years that went by before I came to realize that he all but despises sweets (especially cakes, pies, etc...) I felt terrible as most times when it came around to serving dessert I would always make sure to bring him a plate (in case he didn't feel comfortable helping himself just yet.
Just after we got married I was making dessert to bring over to my parents for whatever reason and he'd been out fishing all morning, he walks in, smells the house and sees what I've baked and goes "Yes! Carrot Cake. The only cake I can actually stand! You made this for us, right?"
LOL, Seriously? ::facepalm::
Something about Carrot Cake, I guess. ;D
Good story, KC.Would t you agree that it makes no difference where it originates. Some call it karma, some just say what goes around comes around. Both are true.
Yes; it would be fitting if one day Bashir was "served" his own "Darby's dose".
There is a "war on women" but it isn't issuing from the Right.
No, I wouldn't agree. There's an egregiousness unworthy of forgiveness when an individual or party transgresses and then has the stones to accuse another.
Karma may be God's earthly justice, but not the end of it. There's yet another Realm in which sins will be counted and accounted for.
Last Friday, on this broadcast, I made some comments which were deeply offensive and directed at Governor Sarah Palin. I wanted to take this opportunity to say sorry to Mrs. Palin and to also offer an unreserved apology to her friends and family, her supporters, our viewers, and anyone who may have heard what I said.
My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics, and they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said. And at a place where we try every day to elevate political discourse and to focus on issues that matter to all of us.
In the battle of ideas, America leads the world in whole-hearted discussions and disagreements and these arguments can be heard on a daily basis. But what I did on Friday had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that great tradition and I am deeply sorry.
Upon reflection, I so wish that I had been more thoughtful, more considerate, more compassionate, but I was not and what I said is now a matter of public record. But if I could add something to the public record, it would be this: that I deeply regret what I said, and that I have learned a sober lesson in these last few days. That the politics of vitriol and destruction is a miserable place to be, and a miserable person to become. And I promise that I will take the opportunity to learn from this experience.
My hope is that it will renew in me a spirit of humility and humanity, that looks for the good and that builds upon the great things that this country has to offer to all of us, regardless of our political persuasion. This will be my guiding light and compass in the days ahead. But once again, I am truly sorry for what I said on Friday.
Bashir apologized. MSNBC has not suspended him. Apparently it's worse to call someone a f*g than suggest that a woman should be sexually and excretorially degraded.
Leftist politics, I maintain, are not a politics at all, but a psychological response to one's shortcomings and feelings of failure. Leftist politics are, simply put, a way of getting even with a world that's done one wrong -- and most people carrying about such grievances against a world that's done one wrong are psychologically broken.
These fairytale "politics" give them an avenue to vent their rages and turmoils about their failures and inadequacies in a way that is deemed, incorrectly, to be socially acceptable and even high-minded.
If a man were raving on the street in this fashion -- about his hopes that someone would literally sh*t in a perceived "enemy's" mouth (a perceived "enemy," who, crucially, he's never actually met) -- most of us would shake our heads in secondary shame. Some of the more empathetic of us would call social services and attempt to have the madman brought in for psychological treatment.
But the left -- Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Daily Kos, all of the hateful, raging, vibrating-with-resentment left -- does this sort of thing in the guise of "political commentary" and no one makes the connection between this broken-souled primal screaming and mental unwellness.
That's their cover. They just call their inner rages "politics" and their antisocial behaviors "activism," and then they pretend to be normal, well-adjusted people.
Go to dictionary,& look up The “C"Word,....next 2 the definition...you’ll see a Pic of Sarah PALIN ! NO...WAIT ...SHES UNDER DUMB C WORD????
And at a place where we try every day to elevate political discourse and to focus on issues that matter to all of us.
that I deeply regret what I said, and that I have learned a sober lesson in these last few days.
That the politics of vitriol and destruction is a miserable place to be, and a miserable person to become. And I promise that I will take the opportunity to learn from this experience.
Cher's another of the ones whose botox treatments have gone right to her brain. Or, should I have said left?
If I could turn back time with Cher, I'd have her mother get an abortion. It's the responsible thing to do.
Who are we? You're kidding, right? I don't judge hearts or souls on behalf of The Lord; I judge words and actions, on behalf of myself, as a human, because He gave me the gift of discernment and commanded it.
I don't do "who are we to judge?"; I abhor that.
So, I guess he had the choice of apologizing or getting suspended for two weeks or something, I dunno but he did actually apologize (http://therightscoop.com/woah-martin-bashir-completely-backtracks-and-unequivocally-apologizes-for-his-comments-about-sarah-palin/) and seemed to actually be sincere about it. Really. Like four or five times inside of two minutes at the start of his show. There wasn't any of the usual, "if I offended anyone..." BS. Instead it was a true apology. Probably not actually sincere but remarkable for its unusualness, nonetheless.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lV0-opusuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lV0-opusuc#ws)QuoteLast Friday, on this broadcast, I made some comments which were deeply offensive and directed at Governor Sarah Palin. I wanted to take this opportunity to say sorry to Mrs. Palin and to also offer an unreserved apology to her friends and family, her supporters, our viewers, and anyone who may have heard what I said.
My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics, and they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said. And at a place where we try every day to elevate political discourse and to focus on issues that matter to all of us.
In the battle of ideas, America leads the world in whole-hearted discussions and disagreements and these arguments can be heard on a daily basis. But what I did on Friday had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that great tradition and I am deeply sorry.
Upon reflection, I so wish that I had been more thoughtful, more considerate, more compassionate, but I was not and what I said is now a matter of public record. But if I could add something to the public record, it would be this: that I deeply regret what I said, and that I have learned a sober lesson in these last few days. That the politics of vitriol and destruction is a miserable place to be, and a miserable person to become. And I promise that I will take the opportunity to learn from this experience.
My hope is that it will renew in me a spirit of humility and humanity, that looks for the good and that builds upon the great things that this country has to offer to all of us, regardless of our political persuasion. This will be my guiding light and compass in the days ahead. But once again, I am truly sorry for what I said on Friday.
Since he works at MSNBC it just isn't possible that he was prompted to do so by anyone there. I'm guessing that it was high fives all around the place for several hours after his original broadcast with his friends and colleagues congratulating him on finding such a clever and unique way to say what he said.
In fact, the only out of place part of his apology is where he extends the benefit of the doubt to his colleagues at MSNBC by way of saying that what he said was not worthy of them. On the contrary, what he originally said was entirely worthy of each and every one of them and by making this apology he puts himself in stark contrast to his peers there. I cannot imagine any of them making a similar apology because they never have. Not once. It's not in them. They see absolutely nothing wrong at all with that sort of behavior and speech.
So I don't know what got into this Bashir guy. He is off the MSNBC reservation now. He might still get fired but if he does it will be over his apology rather than what he originally said about Governor Palin.
As an aside, tonight there was an astute observation (http://minx.cc/?post=345073) about this sort of execrable behavior made by Ace and it is worth quoting:QuoteBashir apologized. MSNBC has not suspended him. Apparently it's worse to call someone a f*g than suggest that a woman should be sexually and excretorially degraded.
Leftist politics, I maintain, are not a politics at all, but a psychological response to one's shortcomings and feelings of failure. Leftist politics are, simply put, a way of getting even with a world that's done one wrong -- and most people carrying about such grievances against a world that's done one wrong are psychologically broken.
These fairytale "politics" give them an avenue to vent their rages and turmoils about their failures and inadequacies in a way that is deemed, incorrectly, to be socially acceptable and even high-minded.
If a man were raving on the street in this fashion -- about his hopes that someone would literally sh*t in a perceived "enemy's" mouth (a perceived "enemy," who, crucially, he's never actually met) -- most of us would shake our heads in secondary shame. Some of the more empathetic of us would call social services and attempt to have the madman brought in for psychological treatment.
But the left -- Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Daily Kos, all of the hateful, raging, vibrating-with-resentment left -- does this sort of thing in the guise of "political commentary" and no one makes the connection between this broken-souled primal screaming and mental unwellness.
That's their cover. They just call their inner rages "politics" and their antisocial behaviors "activism," and then they pretend to be normal, well-adjusted people.
Final thought: He did not beg Governor Palin's forgiveness. Perhaps, it never occurred to him to ask for it or perhaps he did not feel he was worthy of it. Who knows? But, Palin, being the class act that she is, will very likely accept his apology and forgive him, as well.
Footnote:
I guess Cher just couldn't stand to not be in the mix on this most recent bout of Palin bashing so she tweeted the following:QuoteGo to dictionary,& look up The “C"Word,....next 2 the definition...you’ll see a Pic of Sarah PALIN ! NO...WAIT ...SHES UNDER DUMB C WORD????
It is more than a little ironic that the above is uttered by a high school dropout who has reputedly slept with more men than most people have as casual acquaintances. And yeah, this is the culture of MSNBC through and through...Cher could work there anytime.
Who are we? You're kidding, right? I don't judge hearts or souls on behalf of The Lord; I judge words and actions, on behalf of myself, as a human, because He gave me the gift of discernment and commanded it.
I don't do "who are we to judge?"; I abhor that.
Ouch!
Certainly we must all have discernment and we must judge between right and wrong every day.
I commented on a specific issue Pandora. Gods forgiveness is available to all and given at His pleasure.
When I think of eternal damnation, and I do think about it, there are a very few whom I'd wish it for. If I am to be judged by my own rules of judgement, as scripture states, then I could not wish eternal damnation upon someone who made a hateful comment.
I myself have made un televised, hateful comments. You should hear the things I say about Obama.
Bashir can stick his so-called apology up his ass! The only thing he is sorry about is saying this on air, anybody think for a minute that this piece-of-obama doesn't wish what he said in public reflects his real thoughts and that he says, what, something less offensive in private? Please! He is filth, and typical of the Left and the media in general, so fukc him and everybody like him! He is the enemy, he should be vanquished, period.
Who are we? You're kidding, right? I don't judge hearts or souls on behalf of The Lord; I judge words and actions, on behalf of myself, as a human, because He gave me the gift of discernment and commanded it.
I don't do "who are we to judge?"; I abhor that.
Ouch!
Certainly we must all have discernment and we must judge between right and wrong every day.
I commented on a specific issue Pandora. Gods forgiveness is available to all and given at His pleasure.
When I think of eternal damnation, and I do think about it, there are a very few whom I'd wish it for. If I am to be judged by my own rules of judgement, as scripture states, then I could not wish eternal damnation upon someone who made a hateful comment.
I myself have made un televised, hateful comments. You should hear the things I say about Obama.
Yeah, the issue of karma and God's forgiveness. I'm not God and I didn't spend last night in a Holiday Inn either. I don't have to forgive and it's not within my purview to damn, which I haven't. What I did say is that Bashir will face another Judge one day so he'll be looking at whatever goes around on that plane as well, as promised.
In the meantime, I judge because that's how I steer clear of the sht not of my own making.
A friend of mine calls me "Stands With Fist", because I do. I do it for what is right by God's Lights.
Sorry to cause you an ouch.
Who is "we" and "our"? We're an obscure site in the middle of other obscure sites, so it matters not a damn as far as spotlights and contrasts go what we say here.
I'm done with graciousness and forgiveness, so rock on with the same rooty cause it's always worked so well.