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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2011, 09:31:59 PM

Title: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2011, 09:31:59 PM

http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions (http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions)

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EVIDENCE IS now in that President Barack Obama grossly exaggerated the humanitarian threat to justify military action in Libya. The president claimed that intervention was necessary to prevent a “bloodbath’’ in Benghazi, Libya’s second-largest city and last rebel stronghold.

But Human Rights Watch has released data on Misurata, the next-biggest city in Libya and scene of protracted fighting, revealing that Moammar Khadafy is not deliberately massacring civilians but rather narrowly targeting the armed rebels who fight against his government.

Misurata’s population is roughly 400,000. In nearly two months of war, only 257 people — including combatants — have died there. Of the 949 wounded, only 22 — less than 3 percent — are women. If Khadafy were indiscriminately targeting civilians, women would comprise about half the casualties.::speechless:: :o ::speechless::
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Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Sectionhand on April 16, 2011, 05:46:07 AM
Apparently , there have been no DMDs ( Dictators of Mass Destruction ) found in Libya despite what Congress and the world was told by the Stymie Administration .   ::mooning::
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Glock32 on April 16, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
Obama lied, people died!
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: trapeze on April 16, 2011, 08:13:27 PM
Holy cow! Obama lied?!!! No way!! This is stunning news. Really. Someone do a press release, fast!

Seriously, I can't believe that they gave GWB so much crap for so little and this sh*theel gets away with just about anything and everything you could possibly think of. I have to wonder if they sit around the WH and dream up new outrageous stuff to do, pushing the envelope, to see how far they can go before someone in the media will grow a spine and raise an objection.

Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: John Florida on April 16, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
Holy cow! Obama lied?!!! No way!! This is stunning news. Really. Someone do a press release, fast!

Seriously, I can't believe that they gave GWB so much crap for so little and this sh*theel gets away with just about anything and everything you could possibly think of. I have to wonder if they sit around the WH and dream up new outrageous stuff to do, pushing the envelope, to see how far they can go before someone in the media will grow a spine and raise an objection.

 Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2011, 07:57:31 AM
Being a Leftist by definition means you gave up your soul long ago.  Demonrats are Leftists, and anything is possible, anything can be said, anything can be done, for whatever reason they pull out of their ass and they don't have to answer truthfully to anybody to justify their actions.  They are evil.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Pandora on April 18, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
Imagine if a GOP administration did this... (http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2011/04/imagine-if-gop-administration-did-this.html)

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From Defense.gov on April 11th, 2011:

    American forces are not conducting strike missions in Libya. U.S. forces are supporting NATO with air-to-air refueling, reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities and unmanned aerial vehicle support.

From Voice Of America on April 14th, 2011:

    The Pentagon confirmed Wednesday that 11 U.S. fighter jets have been transferred to NATO command to conduct airstrikes as assigned. U.S. military officials said the planes have flown 97 sorties since the transition to NATO command, firing weapons during three of those missions. Washington had announced earlier that the U.S. role in Libya had become one of support rather than active combat.

Wow. That was a quick one-eighty! Good thing I used Google, because otherwise I wouldn't have noticed the total policy reversal that the hard-nosed investigative reporters of our watchdog media have been uninvestigating as hard as they can.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
 ::rockets::
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: John Florida on April 18, 2011, 01:03:59 PM
Where are the effing Arabs and their planes??????
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
Daffy had some flee to Malta.

Rebels have to rely on other Arabs?!

 ::hysterical::

NATO/US should still send them the bill damnit!
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: John Florida on April 18, 2011, 01:56:42 PM
Daffy had some flee to Malta.

Rebels have to rely on other Arabs?!

 ::hysterical::

NATO/US should still send them the bill damnit!


 If every member of the Arab league isn't involved up to their collective butts for every part of the mission we need to get the hell out.!!
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: LadyVirginia on April 18, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
Holy cow! Obama lied?!!! No way!! This is stunning news. Really. Someone do a press release, fast!


::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked:: ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2011, 05:58:06 PM
Liars lie?!

 ::speechless::

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Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 18, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
Where are the effing Arabs and their planes??????

You don't understand, they don't do work.  The help does work.
Their planes are ornaments for the ornamental princes to operate and
impress the masses.  When they are finished with the exhibition contractors
(American) prepare and polish the ornaments for the next exhibition.

Staff,  hired help,  and  lackey dogs (that would be Americans) do the work.
We kick up sand and they cut off oil, simple.  It will remain as such until
we achieve a leader who will take off the leash and put it on them.

Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Sectionhand on April 19, 2011, 04:14:53 AM
What's interesting to me is that on most of the sorties flown by French and British (NATO) fighters ... they return to base with all of their ordnance intact ... ditto the Americans . There's no coordination between ground and air and an unwillingness to risk even one civillian death at NATO hands . This situation would be laughable if it weren't so damned sad .
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 19, 2011, 07:31:18 AM
No leadership, no common sense, no defined mission...what could go wrong?!

Complete fustercluck.  Operation Obama Fail is well underway...
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 19, 2011, 07:58:20 AM

It's writ large to the world and every tin pot knows he has more than a year remaining to do his mischief.

Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2011, 11:42:25 AM
More mischief, of the truly stupid variety!!!

Libya rebels will receive $25 million from U.S.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/19/libya-rebels-will-receive-25-million-from-us/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/19/libya-rebels-will-receive-25-million-from-us/)

What a freaking moron!

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 20, 2011, 11:47:43 AM

Dismissing concerns over possible links between Libyan rebels and al Qaeda, the Obama administration has notified Congress it is providing $25 million in nonlethal aid to the rebels’ effort to drive Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s regime from power.

(http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2011/04/15/rebel_s640x399.jpg)

The new authorization for assistance would cover “vehicles, fuel trucks and fuel bladders, ambulances, medical equipment, protective vests, binoculars, and non-secure radios,” according to a memorandum attached to the letter.


Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
Yeah, makes me wanna empty my bladder...
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Sectionhand on April 20, 2011, 11:56:16 AM

Dismissing concerns over possible links between Libyan rebels and al Qaeda, the Obama administration has notified Congress it is providing $25 million in nonlethal aid to the rebels’ effort to drive Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s regime from power.

(http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2011/04/15/rebel_s640x399.jpg)

The new authorization for assistance would cover “vehicles, fuel trucks and fuel bladders, ambulances, medical equipment, protective vests, binoculars, and non-secure radios,” according to a memorandum attached to the letter.





Anything in there about a haircut and a bath ?
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: LadyVirginia on April 20, 2011, 12:14:37 PM
Yeah, nonlethal aid.  I'm sure the rebels will respect that and use only for what Obama says it will be used for.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2011, 12:20:13 PM
"Hey!  Where'd all the hashhish and goats come from?"
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 21, 2011, 02:17:13 PM

SheepHerd Smith just announced we are sending armed predator drones to to to Libya in the action that is not a war and that we are not participating in.

Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: radioman on April 21, 2011, 02:25:52 PM
Shouldn't we need to be cutting back on our spending since we're facing a guv shut down, no raiseee the debt ceiling, thingy?
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Pandora on April 21, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Shouldn't we need to be cutting back on our spending since we're facing a guv shut down, no raiseee the debt ceiling, thingy?


In a minute .... the Fckstick in Chief has other things on his mind right now - campaign money and all - and a couple other areas in which to waste more money.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Glock32 on April 21, 2011, 04:43:01 PM
What desperately needs to be air dropped is some Afro Sheen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQq-UIkfuqA
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Sectionhand on April 22, 2011, 07:21:08 AM

SheepHerd Smith just announced we are sending armed predator drones to to to Libya in the action that is not a war and that we are not participating in.



Technically that means  " No Boots In The Air " ....
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 23, 2011, 09:55:09 AM

America the bowing, non leading, non interventionist, in the non war in Libya has launched it's first drone strike there.

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE73M06320110423 (http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE73M06320110423)
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: John Florida on April 23, 2011, 10:17:09 AM

SheepHerd Smith just announced we are sending armed predator drones to to to Libya in the action that is not a war and that we are not participating in.



Technically that means  " No Boots In The Air " ....

 He didn't pull the fighters he just added drones.So we do have boots in the air.
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: Sectionhand on April 24, 2011, 05:30:49 AM

SheepHerd Smith just announced we are sending armed predator drones to to to Libya in the action that is not a war and that we are not participating in.



Technically that means  " No Boots In The Air " ....

 He didn't pull the fighters he just added drones.So we do have boots in the air.

Aw come on ... You know what I meant ...
Title: Re: Libya: False War?
Post by: John Florida on April 24, 2011, 10:01:00 AM

SheepHerd Smith just announced we are sending armed predator drones to to to Libya in the action that is not a war and that we are not participating in.



Technically that means  " No Boots In The Air " ....

 He didn't pull the fighters he just added drones.So we do have boots in the air.

Aw come on ... You know what I meant ...
::cool::