It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: John Florida on February 29, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
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I just got back from a baby 1st birthday party and was talking to the father. He's Mexican and he told me that friends of theirs that are truckers were told at the port they haul out of to make as many runs as they can cause the east coast ports are closing in the 2 weeks. If true that's a major problem for all of us.
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Get your shopping done now and then stop. Stay home, at least until we have a more definite idea of what's what. It's said the incubation period can be up to three weeks so there is no need to have someone cough on you right now, all they need to do is exhale on you or in your vicinity.
Don't mean to panic anyone either. Most of us are not young ...... enough ...... Better to be safe. A 50 year-old was reported dead today from Coronavirus in Washington; he had prior health issues though, but it's the U.S.' first death.
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Prudence dictates altering behavior from the norm where it makes sense...though, not to cause a panic...like Pan says doesn't take much to pass/catch a virus...short of hermetically isolating yourself nothing is 100% avoidable.
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I'm looking at it just as an availability aspect. I'm fairly well covered but I still look for buys to jump on.
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Get your shopping done now and then stop. Stay home, at least until we have a more definite idea of what's what. It's said the incubation period can be up to three weeks so there is no need to have someone cough on you right now, all they need to do is exhale on you or in your vicinity.
Don't mean to panic anyone either. Most of us are not young ...... enough ...... Better to be safe. A 50 year-old was reported dead today from Coronavirus in Washington; he had prior health issues though, but it's the U.S.' first death.
No - it wasn't me!
I echo your common-sense advice. What concerns me is that the economy is taking a hit and it's gonna be expensive...
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Not to be Johnny Raincloud...but a lot of our prescription drug manufacturing got out-sourced...China I believe is where we get pretty much get all of our antibiotics from...
::facepalm::
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The three of us are scheduled to fly to Florida to visit friends over spring break... I’m really praying that events over the next several days show this to be less than the fear-mongers in the media are selling it to be.
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... I’m really praying that events over the next several days show this to be less than the fear-mongers in the media are selling it to be.
It is. The media has hyped it waaaaay out of proportion.
Influenza is the threat, but the media doesn't want to say it because it's way too common.
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... I’m really praying that events over the next several days show this to be less than the fear-mongers in the media are selling it to be.
It is. The media has hyped it waaaaay out of proportion.
Influenza is the threat, but the media doesn't want to say it because it's way too common.
Influenza has alway been the threat, the variations today are all in the H1n1 family (spanish/swine flu) family. Before this became a media panic
we were reminded that corona virus has been about for a while, heck it has 19 versions. Anybody remember getting ye ole chest cold/with mild fever back a couple decades ago? uh huh ye ole corona virus.
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Moving thread to "Science, Technology, & Medicine" category.
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... I’m really praying that events over the next several days show this to be less than the fear-mongers in the media are selling it to be.
It is. The media has hyped it waaaaay out of proportion.
Influenza is the threat, but the media doesn't want to say it because it's way too common.
Influenza has alway been the threat, the variations today are all in the H1n1 family (spanish/swine flu) family. Before this became a media panic
we were reminded that corona virus has been about for a while, heck it has 19 versions. Anybody remember getting ye ole chest cold/with mild fever back a couple decades ago? uh huh ye ole corona virus.
Yup, the young without a buildup of immunity and the elderly especially with health issues and anybody with immune issues of any age always at risk.
Spanish flu wiped out how many?
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After shopping yesterday I have to ask how much toilet paper is enough?? Holy cats carts just full of it?
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Second tested and verified Wuhan patient is from our county.
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Second tested and verified Wuhan patient is from our county.
I heard I wish they would name the town/city it was in.
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::unknowncomic::
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::unknowncomic::
Gotta love it 'cause ain't it the truth.
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Heh!
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Not to be Johnny Raincloud...but a lot of our prescription drug manufacturing got out-sourced...China I believe is where we get pretty much get all of our antibiotics from...
::facepalm::
Updated for late to the party ass-head -
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/we-gave-away-these-industries-marco-rubio-warns-of-risk-posed-by-china-nearly-controlling-antibiotics-market (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/we-gave-away-these-industries-marco-rubio-warns-of-risk-posed-by-china-nearly-controlling-antibiotics-market)
Sure, now you're worried.
Dick!
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North Carolina declares state of emergency.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=north+carolina+coronavirus&form=EDNTHT&refig=ed6ceb23dc9440da916b9f31abe4cdbf&mkt=en-us&msnews=1&sp=2&qs=FT&pq=north+carolin&sk=PRES1LS1&sc=8-13&cvid=ed6ceb23dc9440da916b9f31abe4cdbf&cc=US&setlang=en-US (https://www.bing.com/search?q=north+carolina+coronavirus&form=EDNTHT&refig=ed6ceb23dc9440da916b9f31abe4cdbf&mkt=en-us&msnews=1&sp=2&qs=FT&pq=north+carolin&sk=PRES1LS1&sc=8-13&cvid=ed6ceb23dc9440da916b9f31abe4cdbf&cc=US&setlang=en-US)
Gov. Roy Cooper has declared a state of emergency after five more North Carolinians tested positive for the novel coronavirus, bringing the number of cases in the state to seven. Here's what we know:
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https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/N-Carolina-governor-declares-emergency-to-combat-15120546.php (https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/N-Carolina-governor-declares-emergency-to-combat-15120546.php)
Fortunately, having a state of emergency declared no longer means concealed carry is prohibited as it was in Beverly Purdue's day.
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https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/N-Carolina-governor-declares-emergency-to-combat-15120546.php (https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/N-Carolina-governor-declares-emergency-to-combat-15120546.php)
Fortunately, having a state of emergency declared no longer means concealed carry is prohibited as it was in Beverly Purdue's day.
As if I would stop for them if I still had weapons.
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Not to be Johnny Raincloud...but a lot of our prescription drug manufacturing got out-sourced...China I believe is where we get pretty much get all of our antibiotics from...
::facepalm::
Updated for late to the party ass-head -
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/we-gave-away-these-industries-marco-rubio-warns-of-risk-posed-by-china-nearly-controlling-antibiotics-market (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/we-gave-away-these-industries-marco-rubio-warns-of-risk-posed-by-china-nearly-controlling-antibiotics-market)
Sure, now you're worried.
Dick!
I think I posted this before. 97% of anti biotics in US are imported. China low balled antibiotic prices and all US fermentation plants were shut down.
I went to Walmart to pick up some pills. Irbesartan is a high BP med.
This was a $24 per 90 day med cost. I had to pay $211.
So, there is a shortage. Some precursor contained a small amount of a carcinogen.
Maybe the FDA over reacted. I am not sure how much of the precursor was made in China. Maybe I did not dig hard enough. The big pharma companies want you to think it does not matter where it is made.
google "irbesartan' and you will see all the autocomplete suggestions about recalls. Also many other drugs using the same precursors?
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/10/peter-navarro-coronavirus-highlights-need-for-u-s-to-make-our-own-medical-products-again/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/10/peter-navarro-coronavirus-highlights-need-for-u-s-to-make-our-own-medical-products-again/)
Peter Navarro: Coronavirus Highlights Need for U.S. to Make Our Own Medical Products Again…
Posted on February 10, 2020 by sundance
White House manufacturing policy advisor Peter Navarro has an important discussion with Maria Bartiromo about the consequences of the Coronavirus which includes the need for U.S. companies to return manufacturing to the United States on key medical products and pharmaceuticals. A very important subject.
Both Navarro and Bartiromo note that our dependency on Asia for medical products is a problem when a global virus erupts, global demand for those products peaks, and the supply of those products becomes most urgent.
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https://youtu.be/uiNcasUBqWA (https://youtu.be/uiNcasUBqWA)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/18/prinston-pharmaceuticals-recall-irbesartan-blood-pressure-medicines-fda-valsartan-losartan/2618695002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/18/prinston-pharmaceuticals-recall-irbesartan-blood-pressure-medicines-fda-valsartan-losartan/2618695002/)
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Prinston Pharmaceuticals recalled one lot of irbesartan tablets and seven lots of irbesartan HCTZ tablets. The medication contained unacceptable levels of the probable carcinogen nitrosodiethylamine, or NDEA, the company said.
The drugs ingredients were made by Zhejiang Huahai Pharmaceuticals, a factory in China that has been linked to several recalls of commonly prescribed blood pressure drugs since July. The Food and Drug Administration has issued a warning letter and halted all new drug shipments from Zhejiang Huahai since uncovering a series of problems at the factory.
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Here is a book
https://www.amazon.com/China-Rx-Exposing-Americas-Dependence/dp/1633883817/ (https://www.amazon.com/China-Rx-Exposing-Americas-Dependence/dp/1633883817/)
China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine Hardcover – April 17, 2018
by Rosemary Gibson (Author), Janardan Prasad Singh (Author)
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For no discernible reason that I could tell, there was a shortage of UV saline for a while -- probably worse now.
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I would paddle Chi-Com asses with charges of committing biological warfare among other methods to bring them to their knees...so tired of their totalitarian lust for world domination in all things...well past time to put welts on their yellow butts!
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Still at the 97% ChiCom gun at our head mark...but, uhh...
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/were-end-days-here-us-faces-rampant-shortages-116-different-pharmaceutical-drugs (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/were-end-days-here-us-faces-rampant-shortages-116-different-pharmaceutical-drugs)
...how does a 70% shortage in the most critical drugs sound to you?
Fricken scamdemic has made pharmaceutical companies filthy rich and pals in govt gave them blanket legal immunity... ::cussing::
Who is going to start manufacturing domestically? Doubt its these same assholes as long as cheap ChiCom labor can be exploited...but that has an expiration date...and the shortages are not relenting...
::outrage::
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Still at the 97% ChiCom gun at our head mark...but, uhh...
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/were-end-days-here-us-faces-rampant-shortages-116-different-pharmaceutical-drugs (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/were-end-days-here-us-faces-rampant-shortages-116-different-pharmaceutical-drugs)
...how does a 70% shortage in the most critical drugs sound to you?
Fricken scamdemic has made pharmaceutical companies filthy rich and pals in govt gave them blanket legal immunity... ::cussing::
Who is going to start manufacturing domestically? Doubt its these same assholes as long as cheap ChiCom labor can be exploited...but that has an expiration date...and the shortages are not relenting...
::outrage::
But but but free trade is good .... /sarc
China does not practice free trade but benefits from US stupidity in that area.
Russia is now a major food exporter.
Meanwhile in Russia, they handled things quite well. Russia will never go back to being vulnerable to sanctions.
Thanks to US govt stupidity Russia was forced into bed with China. They wanted to be part of Europe.
https://voxday.net/2022/02/13/the-benefits-of-imposed-protectionism/ (https://voxday.net/2022/02/13/the-benefits-of-imposed-protectionism/)
The Benefits of Imposed Protectionism
The Russians have learned there is nothing to fear from Western sanctions:
Vladimir Putin ‘doesn’t give a s**t’ about the risk of Western sanctions if it were to invade Ukraine, Russia’s ambassador to Sweden said as US staff began withdrawing from eastern Ukraine amid warnings of an ‘imminent’ invasion.
In an outspoken interview, Viktor Tatarintsev told the country’s Aftonbladet newspaper that ‘the more the West pushes Russia, the stronger the Russian response will be’.
He claimed Russia had become more ‘self-sufficient’ amid the threat of sanctions and accused the West of not understanding his country.
‘We are more self-sufficient and have been able to increase our exports. We have no Italian or Swiss cheeses, but we’ve learned to make just as good Russian cheeses using Italian and Swiss recipes’, he said.
There is nothing that a big, resource-rich country needs from trade. Indeed, every nation large enough to be self-sufficient will be much better off, over time, by refusing to trade with the rest of the world. The USA has been impoverished, and is now debt-ridden, due to its foolish embrace of free trade and the Ricardian lie.
It’s only a matter of time before China and Russia cut economic ties with the USA. And that will harm the USA, and the West, far more than it harms the rising world powers.