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Title: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2011, 07:00:37 AM
Frankly, I hope they leave, the union dominated states are in a massive decline and their thirst to wring more taxes out of those still around is going to be insatiable.  Screw 'em, leave now while you can!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-cme-group-threatens-to-leave-illinois-over-taxes-20110608,0,4140752.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-cme-group-threatens-to-leave-illinois-over-taxes-20110608,0,4140752.story)
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: ToddF on June 10, 2011, 08:27:56 AM
Wow, an almost straight across 10% corporate tax rate as well as property taxes over twice what they are in Minnesota (Sister pays $4,000+ on a home who's value is now below $200k), as well as 10%+ sales taxes.  All to fund the most corrupt political machine in the country, 100 years running.

What's not to love!
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2011, 08:40:37 AM
Yeah, what a deal, eh?

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Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 10, 2011, 09:24:02 AM

Another article speculated it is moving to Dallas and opined the other trade groups would follow.

Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2011, 10:34:51 AM
 ::praying::
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Glock32 on June 10, 2011, 11:24:43 AM
Read the comments for an unending stream of economic illiteracy.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: LadyVirginia on June 10, 2011, 11:32:32 AM
In the mean time little businesses get crushed in Illinois.

They don't get a break.

Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
Yeah, they (the idiots) can circle down the drain too...

 ::)

Hello Texas!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 10, 2011, 11:51:27 AM

Can't see them moving to Atlanta, maybe NC.

Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: ToddF on June 10, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
If you've ever wondered what kind of dumb@$$ voted in the Chicago Machine for 100 years running?

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I'm sure all these CME people, rolling in loot, will be oh so happy to be driving their Proches and $100+ sports cars around the streets of LaPorte, Indiana. Their wives and girl friends won't miss Michigan Ave shopping and expensive restaurants at all! What a joke. The businesses weasle their way out of taxes to begin with, so it is hypocritical of them to complain to begin with. What a bunch of scumbags.

Who wouldn't be proud to call "Scrumble" their neighbor?

Yes, it really does take trash to represent trash.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on June 10, 2011, 12:46:04 PM
I wouldn't be proud.  Embarrassed, annoyed & angry maybe!

 :P
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Pandora on June 11, 2011, 02:26:01 PM
If you've ever wondered what kind of dumb@$$ voted in the Chicago Machine for 100 years running?

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I'm sure all these CME people, rolling in loot, will be oh so happy to be driving their Proches and $100+ sports cars around the streets of LaPorte, Indiana. Their wives and girl friends won't miss Michigan Ave shopping and expensive restaurants at all! What a joke. The businesses weasle their way out of taxes to begin with, so it is hypocritical of them to complain to begin with. What a bunch of scumbags.

Who wouldn't be proud to call "Scrumble" their neighbor?

Yes, it really does take trash to represent trash.

Yep.  Never occurs to this dumbass the shopping and restaurants will spring up in response to demand and available money.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: pumpkinil80 on August 04, 2011, 09:54:17 AM
If you've ever wondered what kind of dumb@$$ voted in the Chicago Machine for 100 years running?

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I'm sure all these CME people, rolling in loot, will be oh so happy to be driving their Proches and $100+ sports cars around the streets of LaPorte, Indiana. Their wives and girl friends won't miss Michigan Ave shopping and expensive restaurants at all! What a joke. The businesses weasle their way out of taxes to begin with, so it is hypocritical of them to complain to begin with. What a bunch of scumbags.

Who wouldn't be proud to call "Scrumble" their neighbor?

Yes, it really does take trash to represent trash.

Do you have any clue what the CME does?  To say all these CME people rolling in the loot makes me believe that you do not.  The people that work for the CME group are not traders... they own and operate the trading platform that the traders use... so before you go around talking about their cars and money you should learn what they do... you sound like an idiot, people working at the cme make no more than people running a comparable business in any sector. 

Secondly, they arent moving the trading floors, so those rich idiots you talk about will still be in chicago.

I for one think that it would be sad to see chicago lose the CME group... illinois/chicago really needs to rethink their tax structure before we run all of the good business out of the state.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Pandora on August 04, 2011, 10:43:25 AM
If you've ever wondered what kind of dumb@$$ voted in the Chicago Machine for 100 years running?

Quote
I'm sure all these CME people, rolling in loot, will be oh so happy to be driving their Proches and $100+ sports cars around the streets of LaPorte, Indiana. Their wives and girl friends won't miss Michigan Ave shopping and expensive restaurants at all! What a joke. The businesses weasle their way out of taxes to begin with, so it is hypocritical of them to complain to begin with. What a bunch of scumbags.

Who wouldn't be proud to call "Scrumble" their neighbor?

Yes, it really does take trash to represent trash.

Do you have any clue what the CME does?  To say all these CME people rolling in the loot makes me believe that you do not.  The people that work for the CME group are not traders... they own and operate the trading platform that the traders use... so before you go around talking about their cars and money you should learn what they do... you sound like an idiot, people working at the cme make no more than people running a comparable business in any sector. 

Secondly, they arent moving the trading floors, so those rich idiots you talk about will still be in chicago.

I for one think that it would be sad to see chicago lose the CME group... illinois/chicago really needs to rethink their tax structure before we run all of the good business out of the state.

Do you have any clue that the quote you find so objectionable was a comment made at the Chicago Tribune site by a certain "scrumble" and not by anyone here?

Reading comprehension much?  that you walk in here as a newbie and start calling folks here "idiot"?
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
If you've ever wondered what kind of dumb@$$ voted in the Chicago Machine for 100 years running?

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I'm sure all these CME people, rolling in loot, will be oh so happy to be driving their Proches and $100+ sports cars around the streets of LaPorte, Indiana. Their wives and girl friends won't miss Michigan Ave shopping and expensive restaurants at all! What a joke. The businesses weasle their way out of taxes to begin with, so it is hypocritical of them to complain to begin with. What a bunch of scumbags.

Who wouldn't be proud to call "Scrumble" their neighbor?

Yes, it really does take trash to represent trash.

Do you have any clue what the CME does?  To say all these CME people rolling in the loot makes me believe that you do not.  The people that work for the CME group are not traders... they own and operate the trading platform that the traders use... so before you go around talking about their cars and money you should learn what they do... you sound like an idiot, people working at the cme make no more than people running a comparable business in any sector.  

Secondly, they arent moving the trading floors, so those rich idiots you talk about will still be in chicago.

I for one think that it would be sad to see chicago lose the CME group... illinois/chicago really needs to rethink their tax structure before we run all of the good business out of the state.


Nice first post..... I'm gonna cut you a break and believe it was nothing more than an over reaction. You didn't comprehend the source, dude.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: ToddF on August 04, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
Welcome pumpkinnil.  It's refreshing to see someone new here without a link to the latest penis growing remedy at the bottom of their post!

 ::grouphug::
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: pumpkinil80 on August 04, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 04, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
Uh oh! Time for the NRLB to step in and prevent the relocation!
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 04, 2011, 12:54:43 PM
BTW, welcome pumpkin. Your apology is appreciated. It can be an awkward thing to enter the room with ones back up based on misinterpretation of the conversation, so you get kudos for admitting your mistake.

We like feisty. We are feisty. Get a lay of the land here, and be feisty.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2011, 12:58:27 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)


Sorry.....Dudette.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 01:40:15 PM
BTW, welcome pumpkin. Your apology is appreciated. It can be an awkward thing to enter the room with ones back up based on misinterpretation of the conversation, so you get kudos for admitting your mistake.

We like feisty. We are feisty. Get a lay of the land here, and be feisty.

!
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)


Sorry.....Dudette.

 Don't start,she just got here let's cut her some slack. We should get to know her and her us before we  all jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Pandora on August 04, 2011, 01:53:47 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)


Sorry.....Dudette.

 Don't start,she just got here let's cut her some slack. We should get to know her and her us before we  all jump to conclusions.

Really?  The same might be said about her, which I consider to be more pertinent.  No one here sought her out at her place in order to call her an idiot on the first visit.

Feisty is good.  Ignorant aggression is not.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 02:02:04 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)


Sorry.....Dudette.

 Don't start,she just got here let's cut her some slack. We should get to know her and her us before we  all jump to conclusions.

Really?  The same might be said about her, which I consider to be more pertinent.  No one here sought her out at her place in order to call her an idiot on the first visit.

Feisty is good.  Ignorant aggression is not.

 I didn't say she was exempt from her share of this. But she did admit to her error. Do you think for one second that I would allow anybody to call my friends names unanswered if I thought it was done maliciously?

 At this point she doesn't know us and she misread the post so I'm not for a fight just yet. We all know eachother she doesn't.If she stays long enough she might even like us.I think it was more a defense of her husband than anything else.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Pandora on August 04, 2011, 02:08:55 PM
No sale.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: pumpkinil80 on August 04, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
Ha, I googled CME leaving chicago and came across this thread... and was shocked by the quote and misread the source... simple mistake. 

I didnt realize I had entered a personal discussion or a secret order of some sort.  This is the first time I have ever posted anything on a forum or board.

To my defense, I hardly think I am ignorant, especially on the subject I was speaking about, just misunderstood the context.   ::slapfight::

This is kind of silly.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
Ha, I googled CME leaving chicago and came across this thread... and was shocked by the quote and misread the source... simple mistake. 

I didnt realize I had entered a personal discussion or a secret order of some sort.  This is the first time I have ever posted anything on a forum or board.

To my defense, I hardly think I am ignorant, especially on the subject I was speaking about, just misunderstood the context.   ::slapfight::

This is kind of silly.




 OK lets get some things off the table,this is no secret order of any kind,There is no personal discussion it's all out in the open. What you're ignorant of is that there some(very few)rules about a new member coming in and learning the lay of the land and who the people are before we start calling people names as a rule we don't like it anymore than you would like it if one of us showed up and did it to you before we got to know you.


 What you will find is that once you do get to know us and we you we like our members to be fair to each other and were quick to defend each other as we would be quick to defend you one you've established yourself here.

 You goofed OK lets move on and see how it works and go from there.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
First off, I am not a dude, dude.  I thought you were the source, so I apologize for wrongfully accusing you. I find this page slightly hard to follow and the trib article link above doesnt link to that quote.  My reaction however is not an overreaction to the statement, I think its quite fair (to whoever said it).   

As one of the wives of those CME people rolling in loot, I can guarantee we are not.  As I said earlier, whoever said that has no clue what the CME does.  They do not trade... I don’t know the exact figure but probably about over 75% of the organization is IT and leaving Chicago to reduce tax dollar expenditures to increase shareholder value doesn’t make them scumbags, it makes them sensible businessmen/women. 

PS, this goes without saying, but I have no clue how to use this site... I have tried to post this post several times to no avail... hopefully you will only see this once.  :)


Sorry.....Dudette.

 Don't start,she just got here let's cut her some slack. We should get to know her and her us before we  all jump to conclusions.


Dang John...I thought dudette was a clever comeback..... I bet she isn't upset at it. Bet she is cool. Maybe she can give us some insider trading ideas...LOL

And In retrospect, anyone in the business her family is in probably does feel alittle on edge.....It's all cool.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2011, 02:35:53 PM
Ha, I googled CME leaving chicago and came across this thread... and was shocked by the quote and misread the source... simple mistake. 

I didnt realize I had entered a personal discussion or a secret order of some sort.  This is the first time I have ever posted anything on a forum or board.

To my defense, I hardly think I am ignorant, especially on the subject I was speaking about, just misunderstood the context.   ::slapfight::

This is kind of silly.


Right about now, Pumpkin, if we knew you better you'd be fed an old saturday Nite live line...... ::hysterical:: Everyone is cool here.


BTW, I feel funny calling you "Pumpkin"...LOL
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: pumpkinil80 on August 04, 2011, 02:42:55 PM
My name is Anna...

This whole conversation has gotten way too serious for me.  I was joking about the secret order comment and think the purple slappy guys are funny. 
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: radioman on August 04, 2011, 02:56:57 PM
Anna,

You better hope that you can move to Texas because you will be a whole lot better off. :)
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Predator Don on August 04, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
My name is Anna...

This whole conversation has gotten way too serious for me.  I was joking about the secret order comment and think the purple slappy guys are funny. 

You will find, as you hang around a while, there are several personalities here and some good commentary, along with the usual pulling out our hair over the economy, debt, jobs, rinos, etc.....

Anna...nice.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 04, 2011, 03:12:05 PM
My name is Anna...

This whole conversation has gotten way too serious for me.  I was joking about the secret order comment and think the purple slappy guys are funny.  

Hi Anna, and welcome.

There are nuances to having a conversation that are lost when writing short posts. It is way too easy to misinterpret meanings. Then add the fact that many of us know each other's writing style and automatically add in the missing bits.

Stick around and add your voice to the discussion...just beware that insults go both ways.  :supercool:
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 04, 2011, 05:52:29 PM
I think we ought to take Pumpkin's apology at face value.

It seems poor form to enter the room without knowing the people in it, and call someone an idiot right off the bat, even if it was misdirected. She did, after all, believe she was speaking to someone here before her error was pointed out. But to someone unaccustomed to the "culture" of web forums such as ours - particularly one as small and familiar as ours - perhaps we should give some grace, particularly in light of what seems to me to be a genuine apology after the fact.

As MnHawk pointed out, we don't often get new thoughtful members. Lately it's been penis-spam. I'd like to welcome Anna to the forum, and encourage her to chime in at her discretion.

 ::grouphug::
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 06:22:51 PM
I think we ought to take Pumpkin's apology at face value.

It seems poor form to enter the room without knowing the people in it, and call someone an idiot right off the bat, even if it was misdirected. She did, after all, believe she was speaking to someone here before her error was pointed out. But to someone unaccustomed to the "culture" of web forums such as ours - particularly one as small and familiar as ours - perhaps we should give some grace, particularly in light of what seems to me to be a genuine apology after the fact.

As MnHawk pointed out, we don't often get new thoughtful members. Lately it's been penis-spam. I'd like to welcome Anna to the forum, and encourage her to chime in at her discretion.

 ::grouphug::

I'm in  ::kissface::
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: pumpkinil80 on August 04, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Ahh shucks... thanks! 

I am really not such a terrible person and I do like a good debate :)
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: rickl on August 04, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Quote
Lately it's been penis-spam.

Don't forget the smoke detector spam.

I sort of doubt that Anna will stick around, since she was responding to this particular topic.  I hope she does, though.  She mentioned that she is married to a CME employee, and I always like it when I encounter people on blogs and forums who have personal knowledge, experience and expertise on a given topic, rather than just spouting off opinions (which we're all guilty of at one time or another).

ETA:  Hi, pumpkin!  You posted your latest comment while I was writing mine.
Title: Re: CME Leaving Chicago?
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2011, 06:45:40 AM
At least here we got rid of the ad's...those Muzzie dating ones were annoying as hell!

Welcome Pumpkin!