It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: John Florida on July 13, 2011, 04:55:21 PM
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Authors of an opinion piece the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests that the state should remove extremely obese children from their homes and place them in foster care where they can get the help they need to adopt a healthier lifestyle.
http://palscience.com/health-medicine/doctors-propose-removing-obese-children-from-their-homes/ (http://palscience.com/health-medicine/doctors-propose-removing-obese-children-from-their-homes/)
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Looked familiar. ::hysterical::
The problem is that would even bring it up. These people don't see any boundaries between private citizens and thew government.
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Looked familiar. ::hysterical::
The problem is that would even bring it up. These people don't see any boundaries between private citizens and thew government.
Or their acolytes. Like the First Mrs. Fat-Ass.
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It's going to have to come down to giving out some cases of acute, terminal lead poisoning to put an end to this incessant busybody culture that seeks to enlist the apparatus of the State. How's that for a medical condition?
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It's going to have to come down to giving out some cases of acute, terminal lead poisoning to put an end to this incessant busybody culture that seeks to enlist the apparatus of the State. How's that for a medical condition?
CDC already collects those stats; better than the current whinging about "the epidemic of obesity".
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This illustrates how much extra time doctors have since ObamaCare has eliminated their patience patients.
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Yea, wazzup with him?
(Channeling Random: "What crawled up his butt and died?!"
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Yea, wazzup with him?
(Channeling Random: "What crawled up his butt and died?!"
He's another moderate, although not self-proclaimed like Mary, but he is a fence-straddler. No principles.
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Yea, wazzup with him?
(Channeling Random: "What crawled up his butt and died?!"
He's another moderate, although not self-proclaimed like Mary, but he is a fence-straddler. No principles.
Doesn't he know that another name for 'moderate' is Roadkill? ::rockethrow::
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It's just "advocacy", JF. He's not making laws and it isn't unConstitutional what he's saying, so what's the problem?
Channeling Leeb.
Yea, wazzup with him?
(Channeling Random: "What crawled up his butt and died?!"
He's another moderate, although not self-proclaimed like Mary, but he is a fence-straddler. No principles.
Doesn't he know that another name for 'moderate' is Roadkill? ::rockethrow::
O hell no and no one can convince them of it. They see it as non-extremist "virtue".
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"Moderates" have probably done more damage than even the most virulent Leftists.
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"Moderates" have probably done more damage than even the most virulent Leftists.
Observe the damage:
Question from John:
No problem with the government coming into your home? Who decides what obesity is?
Answer:
So I guess you would let parents do whatever to kids? Then we should not break down doors for incest parents raping kids huh? Letting your child get so fat that they have adult health problems is a crime in my mind.
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The woman is just a dits she unsettles me because I want to rip her head off but I'm not sore she would know it happened.
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Naw; she doesn't function above the neck anyway.
She's instructive, though; she's what we conservatives have to deal with come election day all over the country and what the Republicans are convinced need the pandering. As if.
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Anybody drag Mrs. First Fat-Ass out of the WH yet?
::mooning::
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Naw; she doesn't function above the neck anyway.
She's instructive, though; she's what we conservatives have to deal with come election day all over the country and what the Republicans are convinced need the pandering. As if.
This is why they can be frightened into voting to avoid what they were told was under their beds.
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Anybody drag Mrs. First Fat-Ass out of the WH yet?
::mooning::
I'd love to be the First Volunteer.
Size and girth has nothing on adrenaline-fueled fury.
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Hey, I gots me a ideer: Why don't we remove obese welfare recipients from the food stamps rolls?
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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Anybody drag Mrs. First Fat-Ass out of the WH yet?
::mooning::
I'd love to be the First Volunteer.
Size and girth has nothing on adrenaline-fueled fury.
::thumbsup::
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Hey, I gots me a ideer: Why don't we remove obese welfare recipients from the food stamps rolls?
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
I'd like to jump all over that, but then you'd be crucified by the MFM for being a racist hate-filled jerk wanting to hurt poor people. No doubt the left would demand instead of removal, these people be routed into Jenny Craig programs, Curves, whatever...
But wait, that group would probably balk at being herded into such reeducation camps and make a ruckus...
::thinking::
Maybe that's not such a bad idea after all!
::evil::
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Ah, too bad. I guess the Obama's will have to get used to life without their daughter Malia then. I wonder what lucky family will get to foster that little piglet? (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-02-05/entertainment/27055434_1_childhood-obesity-michelle-obama-abc-news)
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Yeah, but the media is playing this up as intervention is good! yeah, if you're a parent, coming from the state it's called TYRANNY!
::)
MFM Idiots!
::gaah::
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It's a short hop and skip from this to state intervention on "behalf" of children for reasons like insufficient exposure to diversity or other tenets of PC dogma (fascist regimes of the past had a generic heading for "anti-social" crime; the USSR considered skepticism of communism evidence of mental illness; IOW there's a precedent for this sort of thing). In fact, haven't we already heard about some kids being forced into public schools for "socialization"? I know that has happened in Canada, but I think there was somewhere in the US too.
The underlying issue is this modern assumption that all ills, real or imagined, can be ameliorated by the heavy hand of the state. People have lost perspective on the fact that respecting and preserving freedom means that sometimes other people will choose to do tacky, distasteful, or self-harming things with their freedom. I am not giving up my own freedom in order to accommodate the Busybodies' demands for the state to eliminate every perceived societal wrong. The example Pandora cited is typical of that ilk, immediately trying to equate parents who maybe let their kids eat too much junk food with things like incest and physical abuse -- because of course those things are separated merely by degrees! I mean where does this end? What about parents who drag uncooperative kids to church every Sunday? I guess they're violating the kids' rights too? I guess what I'm getting at is that we, as a society, have lost sight of the simple reality that sometimes Sh*t Happens. A kid has certain human rights, yes; but likewise parents have the right to rear their own offspring. In cases of actual and direct abuse or negligence, intervention is justified. Anything else, even if it bothers overwrought yuppie housewives to no end, can be filed under "Sh*t Happens" and "Mind Your Own Damn Business".
Are we seriously to be lectured on the subject of child endangerment by the same people who have made it their prime mission to assure there are no hurdles whatsoever to the forcible expulsion of the unborn from their wombs?
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No, we shouldn't be lectured by this ilk, but it happens...part of the leftnut pol/MFM conspiracy against all things good and decent...anything that advances leftist programs and leftist dogma is deemed good, and the bigger the government and deeper reach it has into peoples lives is a good thing...the elite get privileges the masses don't and anything resisting this force is bad and must and will be destroyed.
Again I come back to motivation and it always looks like pure evil to me.