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Topics => General Board => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on July 28, 2011, 08:13:22 PM

Title: Just give Grandmum the pain pill
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 28, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
As if they haven't been rationing all along. They're just doing it openly now. It's a cost-saving measure, ya know. Gotta keep the cost of health care down.

Can't people do a simple compare and contrast? Look at the American system under capitalism. It expanded, and access expanded. Innovations in treatments, procedures, and pharmaceuticals expanded. Then came quazi-capitalism with HMOs, and the system began to decay. Now they want to make it like Great Britain, where the same Ponzi-style taxpayer funding will inevitably lead to shrinking access and innovation, rationing, death-panels, until finally only the elite will have access to real health care, and the peons will pay for it.

Cataracts, hips, knees and tonsils: NHS begins rationing operations (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cataracts-hips-knees-and-tonsils-nhs-begins-rationing-operations-2327268.html)

Hip replacements, cataract surgery and tonsil removal are among operations now being rationed in a bid to save the NHS money.

Two-thirds of health trusts in England are rationing treatments for "non-urgent" conditions as part of the drive to reduce costs in the NHS by £20bn over the next four years. One in three primary-care trusts (PCTs) has expanded the list of procedures it will restrict funding to in the past 12 months.

Examples of the rationing now being used include:

* Hip and knee replacements only being allowed where patients are in severe pain. Overweight patients will be made to lose weight before being considered for an operation.

* Cataract operations being withheld from patients until their sight problems "substantially" affect their ability to work.

* Patients with varicose veins only being operated on if they are suffering "chronic continuous pain", ulceration or bleeding.

* Tonsillectomy (removing tonsils) only to be carried out in children if they have had seven bouts of tonsillitis in the previous year.

* Grommets to improve hearing in children only being inserted in "exceptional circumstances" and after monitoring for six months.

* Funding has also been cut in some areas for IVF treatment on the NHS.

The alarming figures emerged from a survey of 111 PCTs by the health-service magazine GP, using the Freedom of Information Act.

Doctors are known to be concerned about how the new rationing is working – and how it will affect their relationships with patients.

Birmingham is looking at reducing operations in gastroenterology, gynaecology, dermatology and orthopaedics. Parts of east London were among the first to introduce rationing, where some patients are being referred for homeopathic treatments instead of conventional treatment.

Medway had deferred treatment for non-urgent procedures this year while Dorset is "looking at reducing the levels of limited effectiveness procedures"...

More at the link...
Title: Re: Just give Grandmum the pain pill
Post by: Pandora on July 28, 2011, 09:44:34 PM
Overweight patients are going to die before they can lose enough weight for knee/hip replacements, considering bad knees/hips are an impediment to exercise.

But I know they know that.

In a system like Britain's, they are concerned about "health", but not that of the people; the health of the system is the priority and anything that adversely impacts that will be eliminated.