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Title: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Pandora on August 23, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
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The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is offering advice to parents and teens about sex education, including assurances that teens may “experiment” with homosexuality as part of “exploring their own sexuality,” and that masturbation should be of concern only “if a child seems preoccupied with it to the exclusion of other activities.”

The information, located on a “Questions and Answers About Sex” link on the “Quick Guide to Healthy Living” portion of the HHS Web site, also describes children and infants as “sexual beings.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/hhs-children-are-sexual-beings-even-infa (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/hhs-children-are-sexual-beings-even-infa)

In view of this, Report: APA wants to destigmatize pedophilia (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=1413686), I see this "advice" in context.

The day of reckoning for these people cannot possibly come soon enough.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: ToddF on August 23, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
What a coincidence.  This guy also sees your child as a sexual being. 

(http://www2.ed.gov/news/staff/bios/jennings-360.jpg)

I wonder if there's a connection?  ::thinking::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: John Florida on August 23, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
They can say whatever they want and I get to respond in very basic and simple response: Go near any child in my family and I'll put a hole in you head.I won't talk I won't call you names I'll just kill you.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 23, 2011, 11:25:05 AM
I'm not making any specific threat to any specific person for any specific thing. I just want some people [redacted] gone, that's all.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 23, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
I feel like experimenting with mutilating sexual deviants so that they are no longer able prey upon our children...I bet if it comes down a referendum I would win in a landslide.

Let's put it to a vote, shall we?!
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Pandora on August 23, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Yeah .... nah, sorry, Libertas.  Can't be bothered.  I'd just as soon follow John's example and move on to endeavors more worthy of my attention.  Let God sort 'em out.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 23, 2011, 11:41:24 AM
I'm OK with that.

I just find it offensive that these proglodyte deviants think they can act any way they please either because they are deluded as to their own level of enlightenment, they are drunk on bureaucratic power or are under the mistaken belief that most people think in a likewise (diseased!) manner as they.

I want to put their lies to rest as fast as I dispatch their corpse.

So yes, I want my cake and eat it too!

 ;)
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Pandora on August 23, 2011, 11:44:07 AM
I'm OK with that.

I just find it offensive that these proglodyte deviants think they can act any way they please either because they are deluded as to their own level of enlightenment, they are drunk on bureaucratic power or are under the mistaken belief that most people think in a likewise (diseased!) manner as they.

I want to put their lies to rest as fast as I dispatch their corpse.

So yes, I want my cake and eat it too!

 ;)

Don't blame you.

This bullsht on an HHS website, which department SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE, just brings home how far the Fed intrusion has burrowed into our society.

It's infuriating.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 23, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
Yes, infuriating.

And oversight is nonexistent...

Really, why do we have a Congress?  Those idiots on The Hill should lower the American flag and run up the white!  Fricken useless!

 ::gaah::

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Glock32 on August 23, 2011, 02:56:01 PM
Yes, infuriating.

And oversight is nonexistent...

Really, why do we have a Congress?  Those idiots on The Hill should lower the American flag and run up the white!  Fricken useless!

 ::gaah::

 ::rockets::

They're seeing to their own undoing, that's what. When the legitimate avenues of redress are denied to a people, as you point out with the fecklessness of Congress, the predictable result is that people will see to it themselves. Yes, vigilantism. I think what we are seeing here is a bureaucratic state using the inertia of its sheer hulking mass as a weapon of sorts. It feels empowered to issue whatever edicts it wants, because who is going to stop it, or even slow it down? Individuals and even their supposed representatives feel powerless, simply because the bureaucracy is so entrenched and so enormous.

Its days are numbered, because the mathematical reality is we cannot continue to feed its enormous appetite for money. In the inevitable ugliness that lies ahead, just remember these swine had the nerve to use your tax dollars to propagandize you with the message that your children are "sexual beings". They deserve everything coming to them.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Damn_Lucky on August 23, 2011, 06:16:16 PM
All the ABOVE!
Come near me or mine you better be packing 'cause I am. ::cussing:: ::doublebird::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: John Florida on August 23, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
I look at this stuff and knowing who's in power and I start to get suspicious of there motives. Planned parenthood is taking a beating people are slowly turning on abortion states cutting their funding of abortion clinics Gay marriage is getting fought at every level and so on.

  And they need to turn this tide before it gets out of control. So lets create an epidemic of teen pregnancy's and all kinds of kids confused about their sexuality and then  take control of it by offering the same old crap to keep them in line.Planned parenthood is back in the business of killing babies gay marriage is louder than ever and there are too many around to put a stop to it and were outnumbered again.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: ToddF on August 24, 2011, 06:22:27 AM
They see your child as a sexual being (http://maser-media.org/WordPress/?p=3544)
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2011, 07:25:52 AM
Are these two clowns for real MNHawk?

MAP?

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: ToddF on August 24, 2011, 07:39:36 AM
The 'clowns' were the infiltrators who crashed the event. 

Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 24, 2011, 07:51:25 AM
They see your child as a sexual being (http://maser-media.org/WordPress/?p=3544)

Anyone who agrees with the agenda at this link should be killed.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2011, 08:14:27 AM
As the robot in Lost in Space was often saying...

"Crush, kill, destroy!"

!
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: John Florida on August 24, 2011, 10:19:44 AM
I have to admit that sometimes I read what I posted and think I'm losing my mind.Why have I gotten so suspicious of these people? Why do I end up looking for more than they show me. Am I going nuts?Am I already nuts?
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Pandora on August 24, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
I have to admit that sometimes I read what I posted and think I'm losing my mind.Why have I gotten so suspicious of these people? Why do I end up looking for more than they show me. Am I going nuts?Am I already nuts?

You ain't paranoid if they're really after you.  And they are.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
Yup, sometimes paranoia is justified...God's way of reminding us to pay better attention!
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Pandora on August 24, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
More detail on this organization and a particularly interesting piece of information:

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The late Mike Melsheimer who started B4U-Act was a convicted child molester, first caught in 1984 when he was the director of Pennsylvania YMCA. He befriended the two young sons of a Nicaraguan immigrant and began producing child pornography using the boys. In 2002 Melsheimer made the news in Maryland by publicly demanding the state provide him lists of comprehensive mental health services for his pedophilia. At the same time, he was a frequent poster on pro-child rape forums using his own name or sometimes the handle “Lek” where he spoke at length of the time he spent in Thailand.

...

Melsheimer appeared nowhere in public without Dr. Fred Berlin, who as it turned out was Melsheimer’s therapist. Berlin continues to be affiliated with Melsheimer’s group and was featured at this most recent conference.  The Daily Caller points out that in the 1990s Berlin was in trouble with the Maryland authorities because he refused to alert law enforcement when child molesters under his care were actively abusing children. He is also a well-known and vocal opponent of sex offender notification laws. What is less well known about Fred Berlin is that he was, for decades, the expert the Catholic Church relied on for advice on how to deal with pedophile priests.

In a 2008 deposition by Archbishop Emeritus Rembert G. Weakland we learn that Berlin counseled the Church to not defrock pedophile priests. He claimed it would be better to keep the priest around for the Church to monitor, something he claimed society at large wouldn’t do. Odd, since thirty years later he is lobbying against monitoring sex offenders.
In a 2006 Forbes article, Berlin said this about efforts to monitor sex offenders:

    “We’ve basically dehumanized these people with words such as ‘predator,’” said psychiatrist Fred Berlin, founder of the Johns Hopkins Sexual Disorders Clinic in Baltimore.

    “Every decent human being wants to protect children,” he said, but even suggesting that criminals who have done their time are entitled to rebuild their lives can tarnish a politician.

    “It’s close to heresy,” Berlin said.

Heretical indeed. His two contradictory positions both lead to the same end — protecting the child molester from the consequences of his criminality. Berlin told Church authorities that throwing out pedophile priests would endanger the community at large because the pedophiles need monitoring — yet here he claims that pedophiles shouldn’t be monitored and don’t pose enough of a threat to society to merit keeping a database.

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The push to normalize pedophilia has been open and visible for decades, but has been ignored by mainstream commenters who underestimated this fringe movement’s reach and organization. The B4U-ACT conference is a wakeup call that illustrates for us how far this movement has already come. Not only do child molesters publicly organize in forums, with their allies in academia and the mental health fields they have infiltrated our social, political, and academic institutions. For years groups like Perverted Justice and their online allies have warned of this danger and been called vigilantes by liberals, libertarians, and all those people who now pretend that that this is the first time they’ve encountered pedophile advocacy.

This was not the first time this sort of advocacy has happened and it won’t be the last. The question now is what do we do to counter this?

There's much more here. (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/b4u-act%E2%80%99s-rogue%E2%80%99s-gallery/?singlepage=true)
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
 ::falldownshocked::

Great, a freelance scumbag coming to the aid of numerous scumbags...

Just when you thought this thread couldn't get deeper down the perverted rabbit hole...

Speaking of holes, I would love to bulldoze all these deviants right into a big deep one!

Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Janny on August 24, 2011, 08:47:20 PM
We all knew this was coming. The signs were all there, yet if you mentioned the slippery slope you were called crazy by the homo-apologists.

There is a thread on HotAir about this, and there is actually a person advocating for these pedophiles. "Most of them don't harm anyone," and we are spending "way too much money" to stop child pornographers.

I am so livid, I could literally scream! This is what defining deviancy down for the last 40 years has achieved!
 ::bashing::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2011, 08:53:53 PM
Dead on right Janny!  Perfect example of why conservative should not shrink from a fight on any issue, the left are going to try to demonize and bully you into backing off and still demonize you afterward so really, what point is there to play their gameNone!  Best to blaze ahead and turn the tables on them!
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Glock32 on August 25, 2011, 05:07:38 AM
Quote from: Janny
There is a thread on HotAir about this, and there is actually a person advocating for these pedophiles. "Most of them don't harm anyone," and we are spending "way too much money" to stop child pornographers.

Oddly enough, I agree, we are spending too much money on them. A ten cent round of ammo would be more than enough.

And as for that person, no telling what's in his basement....
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: ToddF on August 25, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
We all knew this was coming. The signs were all there, yet if you mentioned the slippery slope you were called crazy by the homo-apologists.

There is a thread on HotAir about this, and there is actually a person advocating for these pedophiles. "Most of them don't harm anyone," and we are spending "way too much money" to stop child pornographers.

I am so livid, I could literally scream! This is what defining deviancy down for the last 40 years has achieved!
 ::bashing::


http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/24/group-of-psychiatrists-wants-to-redefine-pedophilia-to-promote-tolerance/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/24/group-of-psychiatrists-wants-to-redefine-pedophilia-to-promote-tolerance/)

His name is Kaltes. 
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: AlanS on August 25, 2011, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: Janny
There is a thread on HotAir about this, and there is actually a person advocating for these pedophiles. "Most of them don't harm anyone," and we are spending "way too much money" to stop child pornographers.

Oddly enough, I agree, we are spending too much money on them. A ten cent round of ammo would be more than enough.

And as for that person, no telling what's in his basement....

Or his closet.
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Janny on August 25, 2011, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: Janny
There is a thread on HotAir about this, and there is actually a person advocating for these pedophiles. "Most of them don't harm anyone," and we are spending "way too much money" to stop child pornographers.

Oddly enough, I agree, we are spending too much money on them. A ten cent round of ammo would be more than enough.

And as for that person, no telling what's in his basement....

Or his closet.


Yes, Kaltes is his handle, and he's back this morning spinning more "expert" psychobabble to "support" pedophiles and get them "treatment" so they don't act on their desires. I can't think of any OTHER reason he would be doing so.

Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: AlanS on August 25, 2011, 12:27:37 PM
Yes, Kaltes is his handle, and he's back this morning spinning more "expert" psychobabble to "support" pedophiles and get them "treatment" so they don't act on their desires. I can't think of any OTHER reason he would be doing so.

Not like he's got an ulterior motive or anything. So how many years of this crap are we going to tolerate before "minor attracted adults" become main stream? The first sumbiotch who looks at my boys will be dead meat. Period. ::rockets::
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: Janny on August 25, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Yes, Kaltes is his handle, and he's back this morning spinning more "expert" psychobabble to "support" pedophiles and get them "treatment" so they don't act on their desires. I can't think of any OTHER reason he would be doing so.

Not like he's got an ulterior motive or anything. So how many years of this crap are we going to tolerate before "minor attracted adults" become main stream? The first sumbiotch who looks at my boys will be dead meat. Period. ::rockets::

Oh, but laws against sexual abuse of children are just so passe!  ::bashing::

It is possible that he has a pedophile in his family that he is trying to convince himself has been "cured." But some of his over-the-top crap is pretty desperate. Equating demonizing pedophiles with Nazism? Oh, brother.....
Title: Re: HHS: Children Are ‘Sexual Beings’
Post by: John Florida on August 25, 2011, 12:51:01 PM
Yes, Kaltes is his handle, and he's back this morning spinning more "expert" psychobabble to "support" pedophiles and get them "treatment" so they don't act on their desires. I can't think of any OTHER reason he would be doing so.

Not like he's got an ulterior motive or anything. So how many years of this crap are we going to tolerate before "minor attracted adults" become main stream? The first sumbiotch who looks at my boys will be dead meat. Period. ::rockets::

Oh, but laws against sexual abuse of children are just so passe!  ::bashing::

It is possible that he has a pedophile in his family that he is trying to convince himself has been "cured." But some of his over-the-top crap is pretty desperate. Equating demonizing pedophiles with Nazism? Oh, brother.....

 My grandson is all I care about and like I said before anybody goes near him won't be here to go to trail he'll be dead.I'll be the one on trail if they can pin it on me.Which reminds me I need another barrel for my gun as a spare of course.