It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: Pandora on September 14, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
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*Something* appears to be glitchy on my laptop with Firefox, causing some sites to take forever to load. I'm using Windows on the desktop and am having no problems with those sites there.
Halp!
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Knowing nothing I:
dump history
run C Cleaner reboot
right click AVG > open AVG interface > scan computer
go to FF help, if you can reduce the problem to 3 or less words
defrag
and an off topic comment: I prefer xp to 7
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Did you get it ironed out Pan? Not sure what to suggest. Sometimes a slowdown is not in your computer, but happening at your ISP.
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Nope, didn't get it fixed yet. Does the ISP have anything to do with being able to easily one site and not another? I don't know.
I fired up the Internet Explorer browser and the same thing is happening with the same pages, so, I don't 'bout this either.
Tomorrow when Gunsmith has some more time, he'll troubleshoot. In the meantime, ::outrage::
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Looking for some consistency here.
Site A takes 12 seconds to completely load.
Site B takes 28 seconds to completely load.
Both sites have about the same amount of graphics and you've been to both sites many times before.
Is this similar to what your problem is?
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Looking for some consistency here.
Site A takes 12 seconds to completely load.
Site B takes 28 seconds to completely load.
No, a bit longer. The local forum, and it's new; just started yesterday. Gateway Pundit takes minutes.
Both sites have about the same amount of graphics and you've been to both sites many times before.
Is this similar to what your problem is?
No. The forum has almost none, Gateway many.
As I said, new as of yesterday. IAL and Grouchy's load in a blink, Gateway always took a LITTLE bit long longer; local forum was in between.
Something's going on with the damn laptop.
Grrrrrrrrrrr. I hatez this sh*t.
Oh, and thanks for asking, Soup. I'd hoped you would.
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And does the local forum continue to respond in a similar timeframe to resolve after a fresh reboot? Or is it faster?
I do most of my stuff on a laptop but I also have a desktop at home. It's the one I use on the weekends. Lately it has started weirding out of the IAL site. every other site will load OK but I get a "Connection timed out" error on IAL until I reboot. Then it's fine again for a day or two.
Do all the pages on the local forum load at about the same rate? You said that this was Firefox.....do you have any Extensions installed? Did you recently get an upgraded version? Have you recently installed any other applications or had any significant events occur (power outages, etc)?
What version of Firefox are you running?
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And does the local forum continue to respond in a similar timeframe to resolve after a fresh reboot?
Yes.
Or is it faster?
No.
I do most of my stuff on a laptop but I also have a desktop at home. It's the one I use on the weekends. Lately it has started weirding out of the IAL site. every other site will load OK but I get a "Connection timed out" error on IAL until I reboot. Then it's fine again for a day or two.
Do all the pages on the local forum load at about the same rate?[/quote]
Yes
You said that this was Firefox.....do you have any Extensions installed?
Don't know; I don't even know where to look for that info.
Did you recently get an upgraded version?
No.
Have you recently installed any other applications or had any significant events occur (power outages, etc)?
No and no. Have protection in case of the latter anyway.
What version of Firefox are you running?
Don't know the number; I allowed the update today just to see if that was the trouble, so it's the newest.
I knew you were going to ask a bazillion questions; I just am unsure of the answers.
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Top left is File - Edit- History - Bk marks - Tools - Help
Left click help, the last one on the bottom is "About" click it and it will tell you the FF version.
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OK, as for extensions if you don't know you likely don't have any installed. Unlike MS's Internet Explorer, Firefox offers all these add-on extensions for all sorts of purposes - I have one that allows me to selectively block cookies, one to download videos from u-toob, and a text formatting toolbar (for HTML).
You don't have so we can dismiss that as a possibility.
If you click on "Help" and then "About" it will tell you what version you are running.
The fact that you can connect to the site (even if it is slow to completely load) is a good sign (as opposed to not finding the site at all). The slow load implies a problem with formatting or content with the site. Interestingly, I went to the Chatham site and the sidebar graphics that they had been displaying are gone. If you are still getting slow load times then that would suggest behind~the~scenes formatting or coding as the culprit. If that is the case there isn't much that you can do - it's (mostly) all their fault.
did you dump your local cache? I've seen instances where a badly coded page (that had gotten cached) continued to plague response times for all subsequent pages until I barfed it all out.
Are the load times similar between Firefox and IE?
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OK, as for extensions if you don't know you likely don't have any installed. Unlike MS's Internet Explorer, Firefox offers all these add-on extensions for all sorts of purposes - I have one that allows me to selectively block cookies, one to download videos from u-toob, and a text formatting toolbar (for HTML).
You don't have so we can dismiss that as a possibility.
If you click on "Help" and then "About" it will tell you what version you are running.
Thanks. 6.0.2
The fact that you can connect to the site (even if it is slow to completely load) is a good sign (as opposed to not finding the site at all). The slow load implies a problem with formatting or content with the site. Interestingly, I went to the Chatham site and the sidebar graphics that they had been displaying are gone. If you are still getting slow load times then that would suggest behind~the~scenes formatting or coding as the culprit. If that is the case there isn't much that you can do - it's (mostly) all their fault.
did you dump your local cache? I've seen instances where a badly coded page (that had gotten cached) continued to plague response times for all subsequent pages until I barfed it all out.
I dumped the history and re-bookmarked the page.
Are the load times similar between Firefox and IE?
Yes, on the laptop.
Gateway, on the other hand, runs a banner on the top stating FireFox has "prevented this page from automatically reloading". Click allow? It comes back up and up and up.
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Look at the graphic on this page: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Options%20window%20-%20Advanced%20panel#General_tab
Under the Accessibility portion the last entry is: Warn me when websites try to redirect or reload the page. By default this should be unchecked. Is it?
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Oh, and you'll get to that page in Firefox be clicking; Firefox/Tools > Options > Advanced > General : Accessibility
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Look at the graphic on this page: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Options%20window%20-%20Advanced%20panel#General_tab
Under the Accessibility portion the last entry is: Warn me when websites try to redirect or reload the page. By default this should be unchecked. Is it?
Whew! Thanks for the map!
No, it's checked.
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How does your laptop connect to the Internet, compared with your desktop? i.e. is the laptop wireless and the desktop wired? I would try rebooting the router.
I also like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html) as a general purpose scanning and cleaning tool. It's free and the scanning database is updated several times daily. I recommend running it on the laptop and see if it turns up anything.
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At home I'll have Norton AV, SpyBot Search & Destroy and SpyWareBlaster running and sweep regularly with CCleaner (Piriform) and I am running an older Dell desktop with increased RAM and the latest version of FF and have had no problems. I get Norton free via cable company and the other programs listed are all available free on the web.
Does the laptop have enough RAM?
'Puter issues bite, hope you get it figured out! Get tech support (Gunsmith) on that right away!
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/cattech.jpg)
;D
OK, back to my desk...
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/1284747499.jpg)
::rolllaughing::
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Got your 'puter up and runnin' again?
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It's been up and running, just some sites load really sloooooowly. It's got something to do with the google ads scripts.
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Damn Google!
I try to scrub off all toolbars and other crap from my browser...hate that stuff...if I need something I'll search for it myself, I don't need their demonic algorithms always humming in the background!
::outrage::
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Damn Google!
I try to scrub off all toolbars and other crap from my browser...hate that stuff...if I need something I'll search for it myself, I don't need their demonic algorithms always humming in the background!
::outrage::
If I can't scrub it I search for that particular toolbar file and rename it. I make it simple, if the file folder is "Googletoolbar" I rename it
"No_Googletoolbar". That way if I make it worse I can go back and fix it.
I like the "Add-ons". I use "Add blocker" and "Adblock plus".
I went to >Help >FF Help and typed in "using Add-ons".
I now use the FF bookmarks tool bar. Why did I wait so long? ::hammer::
ETA: I haven't had a kickback from renaming any of those stinky files.
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That'd probably be good advice, CO, if I had even a slight inkling of whathehell you're talking about.
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Open your FF browser, click Help, click FF Help.
ETA - or: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/home?as=u (http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/home?as=u)
A new page will come up,"Need Help With Firefox?" below that will be a box for you to type in "keyword or words", something such as "using add-ons" . You're page will be directed to information about using add-ons. It's pretty much like going to CNET and downloading an application.
You may also choose to type in Ad blocker or Adblock plus or you may type in, well just go there, it becomes obvious pretty quickly. It's all set up by FF and FF users so you are in friendly company.
Just for the hoot you may want to click tools, then add-ons and it will bring up any that you have, you may be surprised. Then you can back out and start your help search. FF has a lot of neat things (add-ons).
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Okay, then. Thank you.
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Adblock is definitely a good plug-in. It will strip away most ads, you'll never see them or even see where they were meant to be. You can setup exceptions for particular sites if need be.
I would also recommend giving the Opera (http://www.opera.com/browser/) browser a try. I find it snappier and more responsive than Firefox, to the point that it has become my everyday browser. There are similar plug-ins available for it too.
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Opera is nice, especially for forums, seems like it is a lot easier to read!
::thumbsup::
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Unfortunately, no suggestions worked. (I didn't switch to Opera).
I narrowed the problem down to "pagead2.gogglesyndication.com" trying to load was what was hanging the pages. One site suggest loading a FireFox plugin, "NoScript", so I did that and that's what worked. Mostly. I'm having other slight issues with stuff appearing that hasn't before, on this site as well, but with this I can deal.
Thanks again for all your suggestions.
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What kind of things are appearing that haven't before?
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At the bottom of the reply box, before "post", this:
+ Additional Options...
Notify me of replies. Lock this topic.
Return to this topic. Sticky this topic.
Don't use smileys. Move this topic.
Attach: (more attachments)
Maximum attachment size allowed: 50000 KB, per post: 4
And "Attach:", with two spaces, each with a "Browse" function.
I can't seem to make it all go away.
Some days, I feel like "the government"; for every problem I "solve", I create two others.
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So when you click on the + it won't do anything? Sounds like a Javascript issue. My guess is that "NoScript" plugin has disabled Javascript, so that control is rendering its default state (i.e., pre-expanded).
Does the NoScript plugin have its own configuration options? Maybe you could define an exception for itsaboutliberty.com.
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So when you click on the + it won't do anything? Sounds like a Javascript issue. My guess is that "NoScript" plugin has disabled Javascript, so that control is rendering its default state (i.e., pre-expanded).
Does the NoScript plugin have its own configuration options? Maybe you could define an exception for itsaboutliberty.com.
That's exactly what I did. There's a "NoScript" (S) symbol at the extreme bottom right of the ... rats! I don't know what it's called -- when the page finishes loading, a "Done" appears at the way at the left in the same bar. Clicked on, it's got a long list of options, which I now have to get acquainted with, but clicking on one of them did the trick.
Sheesh.
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...Clicked on, it's got a long list of options, which I now have to get acquainted with, but clicking on one of them did the trick.
So the page is rendering properly now?
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...Clicked on, it's got a long list of options, which I now have to get acquainted with, but clicking on one of them did the trick.
So the page is rendering properly now?
Yes, it is.
The other sites with which I was having such difficulty, such as Gateway Pundit, are loading quickly now too. Finally.
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I've tried no script and junked it. It reads OK but java is necessary.
When you become accustomed to "adblock plus" you will see that you may select things such as "pagead2.gogglesyndication.com" and block it. I also recommend fanboy's subscription list it's set up
for the US and it's extensive.