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Topics => General Board => Topic started by: trapeze on December 19, 2011, 12:33:49 AM
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Saw this in the NYPost. It's in response to the proposed phone/driving ban. Classic Frank J. of IMAO...
Imagine if cars hadn’t been around for a century, but instead were just invented today. Is there any way they’d be approved for individual use? It’s an era of bans on incandescent bulbs; if you suggested putting millions of internal-combustion engines out there, you’d get looks like you were Hitler proposing the Final Solution.
Even aside from pollution, the government wouldn’t allow the risks to safety.
“So you’re proposing that people speed around in tons of metal? You must mean only really smart, well-trained people?”
“No. Everyone. Even stupid people.”
“Won’t millions be killed?”
“Oh, no. Not that many. Just a little more than 40,000 a year.”
“And injuries?”
“Oh . . . millions.”
There’s no way that would get approved today.
LINK (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/hey_they_still_let_us_drive_yj0UXYTPoMAOGyf4AuFRiI#ixzz1gxYmyN1F)
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Sad but true. The nannies would place us currently at the pinnacle of innovation, and in need of endless reforms to "correct" the "problems" caused by what has already occurred without their wise consent. They claim that they can do it all better the second time around, if they only funnel enough tax dollars to the right people for the right things. But that just doesn't seem to work out at all, does it.
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In the '60s Ralph Nader wrote a book titled "Unsafe At Any Speed"
it wiped out the Chevy Corvair which was as safe as any other car
in it's class and was pretty cool at time.
They never get it right and like cockroaches they foul up the place.
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They've been trying to get people out of cars for how many decades now? The war is still on! Between the regulatory costs for safety and environmental, high-cost union labor and marketing, the regulation and taxation of fuel etc, the costs of car ownership have rocketed. At the same time the quality and longevity have decreased and repair costs have skyrocketed! They are intending to force everyone into spec's and away from oil no matter the cost, and eventually even the spec's will be gone but for the privileged ruling elite any manner of transport regardless of waste or fuel will of course be available!
::mooning::
::rockets::
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A ton of truth in that article, no way would our government let the car out of the box today.
Nader did more than kill the corvair. That was a little car ahead of it's time. When the gas crunch of the 70's came American car makers had no little cars so they looked to Japan and the rest is history. Who knows how our auto industry would have ended up if little cars would have taken off instead of the big boats and muscle cars.
The government OWNS our auto industry today, exactly what I was talking about int he other thread when I said there was no logical reason you couldn't buy basic transportation the average person could go out and get brand new.
Instead you get a bunch of cheap stuff with a bunch of expensive nanny state electronics wrapped around you. ::saywhat::
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The movie Minority Report is frequently referenced because the central premise of the film is that the government has devised a way of predicting future events (crimes) and uses that as a basis to arrest people beforehand.
But there is another point of reference in that movie apart from the main plot. It shows cars as being completely automated and controlled by computer. There are no longer any drivers, only passengers. You get in it, tell it where you want to go, and it does the rest. The government can, of course, exercise full autonomy over all transports. It can track them, alter their destination, and even lock the occupants inside. Really, other than the fully automated driving none of that seems far fetched any more. And automated driving is at least a theoretical possibility too.
Technology is for sure a double-edged sword.
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Yeah, the day the government forces me into a vehicle I have no control over is the day I...
Oh, who cares, I'll be dead or imprisoned by then!
::gaah::
::mooning::
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
The work around is to yank the whole gawdamn sh*t out and replace it with chipless mechanics; engine, tranny, braking system; a reverse restoration project. Except, Charles, you know what? It's illegal to replace an engine with an older model engine.
My truck started stuttering on the way home today and I'm fit to be tied right now.
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Probably that sparkplug coil combo. I had two go out at the same time
the computer went nuts trying to "balance" it. I thought it was going to
bust the crank.
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
The work around is to yank the whole gawdamn sh*t out and replace it with chipless mechanics; engine, tranny, braking system; a reverse restoration project. Except, Charles, you know what? It's illegal to replace an engine with an older model engine.
My truck started stuttering on the way home today and I'm fit to be tied right now.
Do you have motor vihicle checks in N.C.?
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
The work around is to yank the whole gawdamn sh*t out and replace it with chipless mechanics; engine, tranny, braking system; a reverse restoration project. Except, Charles, you know what? It's illegal to replace an engine with an older model engine.
My truck started stuttering on the way home today and I'm fit to be tied right now.
Do you have motor vihicle checks in N.C.?
What's a motor vihicle check? Inspection?
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What's a motor vihicle check? Inspection?
State revenue enhancement.
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English. Please. Okay!?
Checkpoints?
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I'm from Texas originally. In Texas they have an annual vehicle inspection. I have no idea what they charge for it now but I'm sure it's a lot. It's like an extra fee that goes along with license and registration. More money for the state. In Texas it's a bit of a trade off (among others like the sales tax) for having no income tax.
It's a damn nuisance...you have to find a garage that does the inspections and then sit around while they do their damnedest to find things wrong with your car.
The garage gets to keep a small part of the fee but the serious money is in finding things wrong with your car so that they can charge you (usually right there on the spot) for correcting the problems. It used to be stupid stuff like replacing a turn signal bulb or adjusting a headlight angle (back when they could be adjusted). A while before I left the state they added emissions to the inspection. That really jacked the cost of corrections up.
It's a racket. Pure and simple.
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Right. So it's inspections. Same here, but along with vehicle property tax, license and reggie. Oh, and don't forget the gas tax. eta: Oh, and State income tax.
Curiously, in NC, no vehicles that predate 1996 need emissions inspections. Fancy that; the older, more probably polluting vehicles get a pass.
All of this stuff coming to my fore is poking the tiger at this point. Rahr.
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We had the damned vehicle emissions tests here in Minnesota for a decade or so. IIRC, it was Jesse The Body Ventura who beat that ones head into the turnbuckle until it was dead.
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I don't know if Texas still has the vehicle emissions testing (I haven't lived there in almost two decades) but it was alive and kicking when I left and it started up in the early eighties IIRC.
I now live in a place with a state income tax but no vehicle inspections.
Tradeoffs.
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We had the damned vehicle emissions tests here in Minnesota for a decade or so. IIRC, it was Jesse The Body Ventura who beat that ones head into the turnbuckle until it was dead.
It was a joke.
I remember a buddy of mine had a rattrap old POS that on its best day would have zero chance of passing the fricken test, he'd pump Seafoam and other crap into it before going there and would come out with a passing grade. Everybody was scamming that thing. And funny how trucks and stuff (unions!) got a pass, eh?
In a way I'm suprised some idiot hasn't tried to reinstitute that idiocy again.
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Yes, Virginia, NC has annual "safety" inspections . . .
My check engine light has been on for 6 months in the '96 Suburban. The computer used by all inspection stations in NC will not pass you if the light is on. My mechanic thought it was the spider assembly and would cost around $450.00. Anyway, last week I'm driving into town and the light is off. The light stayed off for the long commute into the big city. I swing into the nearest inspection place, a little oil change franchise. Well, they hook the computer up and it passes. Then, I see two technicians effin with my steering wheel and front tires. Sure enough, the manager comes in and says "Mr. South, I have to fail you because there is too much play in the Idler arm. Want me to work up a quote?" I coulda spit nails. Told him "no thanks, my buddy is a mechanic."
Long story short, I bought a $28 idler arm and had my buddy put it on. I drove back to the inspection station, showed him the old arm and new box, and magically, shazzammm! It passed.
Moral of the story: Do not ever have your vehicle inspected by a shop that does repairs. There are shops that do nothing but inspections.
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I've had inspections in VA (the worse state), TN, NC and now none in KY. However they did raise our gas tax two cents a gallon this summer so the lack of inspections is a moot point. The latest is going to a tax on miles since the vehicles are getting better mileage (mandated by the feds) and revenue is down. Can't win for losing. ::bashing::
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
The work around is to yank the whole gawdamn sh*t out and replace it with chipless mechanics; engine, tranny, braking system; a reverse restoration project. Except, Charles, you know what? It's illegal to replace an engine with an older model engine.
My truck started stuttering on the way home today and I'm fit to be tied right now.
Do you have motor vihicle checks in N.C.?
What's a motor vihicle check? Inspection?
If that's the case do what you wnt and keep it to yourself. Pull the motor use the bock and go back as far as you want.
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Ford's PATS (Passive Anti-Theft System): RF chip in the ignition key and a transponder
on the steering column are linked to the ECM. If the chip and the transponder do not
shake hands the ECM will not allow the engine to run. THERE IS NO WORK AROUND.
The work around is to yank the whole gawdamn sh*t out and replace it with chipless mechanics; engine, tranny, braking system; a reverse restoration project. Except, Charles, you know what? It's illegal to replace an engine with an older model engine.
My truck started stuttering on the way home today and I'm fit to be tied right now.
Do you have motor vihicle checks in N.C.?
What's a motor vihicle check? Inspection?
If that's the case do what you wnt and keep it to yourself. Pull the motor use the bock and go back as far as you want.
That's what I say: keep it to ourselves. Gunsmith sez we'll see ... after the '55 is done. We're getting there. Carpet in and seats fitted; new tranny just waiting 'til after the holidays, and the interior guy (head liner, seat re-upholstery and door panels) just waiting for the word.
Like I said, with the Lariat, it's a reverse-restoration project and a lot of work, so we WILL SEE. (I WILL PREVAIL!)
Oh -- the truck? The fifth cylinder had an ignition coil failure, so not the trans, as I feared. Tomorrow. After $700, a coil, all new plugs, rubber boots (in oldspeak: wires) and tranny flush. I asked the Service Manager how much of a PiTA replacing the plugs was and her answer, "well, you need to be a bit of a contortionist to reach two of 'em" -- sealed the deal; let them do it long as they're in there. Shades of my Dad's, "I hate these @#$% engineers; they shove the stuff in there with no regard for what the mechanics need to do to fix it".
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Pan, I'm glad you've got your baby back on the road.
Those big old mechanical V8s could drop a plug and
one might not notice it right off the bat. Today every-
thing is wound up so tight that the slightest failure
is a real problem.
This is the second week of the PATS problem and
::crossing fingers:: it may be resolved. Problem:
The key always in use had an RF failure. I'm using
the original backup key and if all goes well I'll get a
new second key.
Costs: wrecker, three trips to the mechanic, one trip
to the Ford dealer, and six days for a rental car. If
the vehicle were a mechanical system any one of us
could have repaired the switch and been on our way.
Digital, they can't diagnose it till it's broke (ah ha),
as the dealer said, "it will be 'hunt & peck'...
rocket science.
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Problem:
The key always in use had an RF failure. I'm using
the original backup key and if all goes well I'll get a
new second key.
Yeah. Coded keys.
Be prepared, they cost about $100.
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Pan, I'm glad you've got your baby back on the road.
Not yet, so we'll see if the Diagnostic Computer (which used to be a person) diagnosed the right thing.
Those big old mechanical V8s could drop a plug and
one might not notice it right off the bat. Today every-
thing is wound up so tight that the slightest failure
is a real problem.
Exactly.
This is the second week of the PATS problem and
::crossing fingers:: it may be resolved. Problem:
The key always in use had an RF failure. I'm using
the original backup key and if all goes well I'll get a
new second key.
Costs: wrecker, three trips to the mechanic, one trip
to the Ford dealer, and six days for a rental car. If
the vehicle were a mechanical system any one of us
could have repaired the switch and been on our way.
Digital, they can't diagnose it till it's broke (ah ha),
as the dealer said, "it will be 'hunt & peck'...
rocket science.
Oh, good grief! This is what I'm talking about when I bitch about "the chips".
BAS is right about the cost for a spare key, but it's worth it, IMO.
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I could fill paragraphs with my disdain for NC annual
inspections revenue enhancements.
The pre-96 vehicles are exempt from the emissions portion of the inspection because they don't have OBD systems installed. Everything after that has an OBD with an interface port that the shop connects to the diagnostic computer. They used to use a tail pipe sniffer to read the emission content, but now the "sniffer" is built right into your car from the factory, along with who knows what else.
So, yes, if your Check Engine light is on, you'll fail the test. My light is always on because it detects a leak in the evap system. This has no bearing on the performance of the car, it's strictly environmental horse sh1t. When fumes come off the fuel in your tank, rather than escaping into the atmosphere they are absorbed into a canister filled with charcoal. When the engine is running, it sucks the fumes back out of the charcoal and burns them. My canister has a leak somewhere. Replacing it requires dropping the fuel tank, as it was ingeniously placed above it solely to confound people like us who prefer to be self-sufficient. Instead I have left it alone, and each year I play the game of trying to get the inspection after a) resetting the check engine light and b) before the fault condition trips it back on. To further compound things, when you reset the fault code, that in itself triggers another code (a "Recently Reset") code that will also cause it to fail inspection. So I have to reset it, drive around long enough for it to give me permission to try for an inspection, and hopefully hit the window of time just right before the light has come back on.
The futility of the whole system becomes apparent if you live and commute in Charlotte, where half of the metro area is in South Carolina. They have no inspections in SC, and some of the junk heaps from there don't even have a single functioning tail light. So I get to jump through all the hoops while 1/4 or more of the cars around the city come in from SC.
The proximity does have its advantages too. I haven't bought gasoline in NC in months.
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I could fill paragraphs with my disdain for NC annual inspections revenue enhancements.
The pre-96 vehicles are exempt from the emissions portion of the inspection because they don't have OBD systems installed. Everything after that has an OBD with an interface port that the shop connects to the diagnostic computer. They used to use a tail pipe sniffer to read the emission content, but now the "sniffer" is built right into your car from the factory, along with who knows what else.
So, yes, if your Check Engine light is on, you'll fail the test. My light is always on because it detects a leak in the evap system. This has no bearing on the performance of the car, it's strictly environmental horse sh1t. When fumes come off the fuel in your tank, rather than escaping into the atmosphere they are absorbed into a canister filled with charcoal. When the engine is running, it sucks the fumes back out of the charcoal and burns them. My canister has a leak somewhere. Replacing it requires dropping the fuel tank, as it was ingeniously placed above it solely to confound people like us who prefer to be self-sufficient. Instead I have left it alone, and each year I play the game of trying to get the inspection after a) resetting the check engine light and b) before the fault condition trips it back on. To further compound things, when you reset the fault code, that in itself triggers another code (a "Recently Reset") code that will also cause it to fail inspection. So I have to reset it, drive around long enough for it to give me permission to try for an inspection, and hopefully hit the window of time just right before the light has come back on.
The futility of the whole system becomes apparent if you live and commute in Charlotte, where half of the metro area is in South Carolina. They have no inspections in SC, and some of the junk heaps from there don't even have a single functioning tail light. So I get to jump through all the hoops while 1/4 or more of the cars around the city come in from SC.
The proximity does have its advantages too. I haven't bought gasoline in NC in months.
Pull the bulb.
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Part of the diagnostics checks for a malfunctioning malfunction indicator. ::gaah::
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In NC, buried deep in the regs, there is a provision to the effect that you can get DMV "permission" to override the check engine light if the repair is prohibitively expensive and the defect is not safety related.
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Part of the diagnostics checks for a malfunctioning malfunction indicator. ::gaah::
If you pull the bulb and also cause the circuit to not be
broken, would that work?
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Part of the diagnostics checks for a malfunctioning malfunction indicator. ::gaah::
If you pull the bulb and also cause the circuit to not be
broken, would that work?
Whether the light is on or off, the tech is still going to to hook up the diagnostic computer to your car. And yes, in the regs, there is a provision for failing the vehicle if the check engine light is not working properly.
Dang, I thought the Republicans were gonna throw the whole system out.
Read this: It's not about safety, it's about revenue (as previously stated above):
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/31/2737051/garages-help-block-inspections.html (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/31/2737051/garages-help-block-inspections.html)
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Part of the diagnostics checks for a malfunctioning malfunction indicator. ::gaah::
Well, if they reinstitute that stupidity here and model it on these rules I am screwed...my light stays on all the time and the dealer can;t tell me why. They reset it and it goes off again. They tell me it could be a loose gas cap, sounds like complete BS to me and a cover for them not knowing what to do about it, but, for now we don't test so I don't care!
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We picked up the truck and it seems to be running fine now. However ....
.... suddenly ....
... the radio volume control knob no longer works.
As an auto mechanic's daughter, I know how these sorts of things often go -- in the engine, for instance. Replace a part or parts, and the rest of the parts don't know how to act anymore; all the original parts and pieces were broken in together and now there's a new guy in the neighborhood, so, inevitably, the weakest one has a nervous breakdown and gives up the ghost, with the mechanic invariably, wrongfully getting the blame. (This is the fanciful version; I've taken artistic license.)
But the radio knob?!
I am not a high-maintenance woman; I do not ask for much.
Yes, I know things could be a lot worse, but COME ON!! awready.
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::rolllaughing::
(I'm laughing with you!)
;)
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We picked up the truck and it seems to be running fine now. However ....
.... suddenly ....
... the radio volume control knob no longer works.
As an auto mechanic's daughter, I know how these sorts of things often go -- in the engine, for instance. Replace a part or parts, and the rest of the parts don't know how to act anymore; all the original parts and pieces were broken in together and now there's a new guy in the neighborhood, so, inevitably, the weakest one has a nervous breakdown and gives up the ghost, with the mechanic invariably, wrongfully getting the blame. (This is the fanciful version; I've taken artistic license.)
But the radio knob?!
I am not a high-maintenance woman; I do not ask for much.
Yes, I know things could be a lot worse, but COME ON!! awready.
Let me know when you figure that one out.
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Why don't you tell me, if you know the answer, as, you know, like, a Christmas present.
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Is the radio getting juice?
Does the clock work?
If it's getting juice will the knob turn on the radio
but not control the volume?
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Is the radio getting juice?
Does the clock work?
If it's getting juice will the knob turn on the radio
but not control the volume?
The clock works, the radio works -- all stations -- just no volume control.
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Can we eliminate sabotage? By You-know-who??????
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Oh jeepers!!!
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Do you have speed adjusted volume control?
ETA there are problems with those, otherwise I get zip at the forums.
Did find out that there is a specific pin in the harness for that task.
I'm interested to hear your results. Mine is push on/off and volume.
The knob has no bottom or top it just rotates and when you turn it
on regardless of previous volume setting it comes on at a predetermined
level.
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Lol. NO. Is there such a thing?
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Lol. NO. Is there such a thing?
Yeah, they added it in 03 or 04 before that it was an add-on feature.
ETA there are problems with those, otherwise I get zip at the forums.
Did find out that there is a specific pin in the harness for that task.
I'm interested to hear your results. Mine is push on/off and volume.
The knob has no bottom or top it just rotates and when you turn it
on regardless of previous volume setting it comes on at a predetermined
level.
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Lol. NO. Is there such a thing?
Yeah, they added it in 03 or 04 before that it was an add-on feature.
ETA there are problems with those, otherwise I get zip at the forums.
Did find out that there is a specific pin in the harness for that task.
I'm interested to hear your results. Mine is push on/off and volume.
The knob has no bottom or top it just rotates and when you turn it
on regardless of previous volume setting it comes on at a predetermined
level.
2000 F150. Same type on-off button, and the same goes for no top/bottom, it will spin into infinity and beyond, but when the truck is started, the radio comes on at the volume it was when the truck was last shut off.
Except for NOW ........ since there's no way to adjust the freakin' volume. So, it's at the volume it was when it was still operational.
Checked with my brother; he sez "you've a problem in/with the radio .....". Okay. FINE!
The Ford dealer wants $1300 for just the radio, labor not included. Unh hunh; not happening. There are far less expensive, just-as-good after-markets for sale. *sigh* Good thing my birthday is not too far off.
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Rats.
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Rats.
That's what I say. Nevertheless ....
Feh. It's a small thing, the damn radio.
Christmas is almost here; there are more important and joyful things upon which to dwell.
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The Ford dealer wants $1300 for just the radio, labor not included. Unh hunh; not happening. There are far less expensive, just-as-good after-markets for sale. *sigh* Good thing my birthday is not too far off.
Plenty of shops in Triangle who will install a better than OEM radio with lots of cute features (GPS, touch screen, etc.) for a couple hundred.
Happy Birthday! Why don't you just set up a PayPal Acct. and we'll all chip in!
Seriously!
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We picked up the truck and it seems to be running fine now. However ....
.... suddenly ....
... the radio volume control knob no longer works.
As an auto mechanic's daughter, I know how these sorts of things often go -- in the engine, for instance. Replace a part or parts, and the rest of the parts don't know how to act anymore; all the original parts and pieces were broken in together and now there's a new guy in the neighborhood, so, inevitably, the weakest one has a nervous breakdown and gives up the ghost, with the mechanic invariably, wrongfully getting the blame. (This is the fanciful version; I've taken artistic license.)
But the radio knob?!
I am not a high-maintenance woman; I do not ask for much.
Yes, I know things could be a lot worse, but COME ON!! awready.
It's one of the axioms of software engineering: statistically, every bug fix introduces 1.1 new bugs. I figure it's the same for mechanical and other systems too.
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Why don't you tell me, if you know the answer, as, you know, like, a Christmas present.
If I knew I would tell you no matter what the month is. I don't see a connection at all just a fluke.
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Lol. NO. Is there such a thing?
Yeah, they added it in 03 or 04 before that it was an add-on feature.
ETA there are problems with those, otherwise I get zip at the forums.
Did find out that there is a specific pin in the harness for that task.
I'm interested to hear your results. Mine is push on/off and volume.
The knob has no bottom or top it just rotates and when you turn it
on regardless of previous volume setting it comes on at a predetermined
level.
2000 F150. Same type on-off button, and the same goes for no top/bottom, it will spin into infinity and beyond, but when the truck is started, the radio comes on at the volume it was when the truck was last shut off.
Except for NOW ........ since there's no way to adjust the freakin' volume. So, it's at the volume it was when it was still operational.
Checked with my brother; he sez "you've a problem in/with the radio .....". Okay. FINE!
The Ford dealer wants $1300 for just the radio, labor not included. Unh hunh; not happening. There are far less expensive, just-as-good after-markets for sale. *sigh* Good thing my birthday is not too far off.
Check a salvage yard.thois things aren't worth much used.
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Spray some WD 40 on it.
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Why don't you tell me, if you know the answer, as, you know, like, a Christmas present.
If I knew I would tell you no matter what the month is. I don't see a connection at all just a fluke.
Ah. Okay. I read you as if you had an answer and was just taunting me. ::saywhat:: ;D ::beertoast::
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The Ford dealer wants $1300 for just the radio, labor not included. Unh hunh; not happening. There are far less expensive, just-as-good after-markets for sale. *sigh* Good thing my birthday is not too far off.
Plenty of shops in Triangle who will install a better than OEM radio with lots of cute features (GPS, touch screen, etc.) for a couple hundred.
Happy Birthday! Why don't you just set up a PayPal Acct. and we'll all chip in!
Seriously!
Aw, that's sweet of you, but, no thank you.
We'll get 'er fixed up in no time.
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Why don't you tell me, if you know the answer, as, you know, like, a Christmas present.
If I knew I would tell you no matter what the month is. I don't see a connection at all just a fluke.
Ah. Okay. I read you as if you had an answer and was just taunting me. ::saywhat:: ;D ::beertoast::
I wouldn't ever think of taunting you,ever.
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WD 40 won't hurt it.
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WD 40 won't hurt it.
What "it" should I spray on some WD 40? It's not like the old-time radios where when the knob kept dialing it meant the knob itself was busted.
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It starts at the knob, some kind of contact, relay, whatever.
It might be some dust or oxidation impeding contact.
Just put that little red tube on the nozzle and spray.
What the heck.
BAS said two bills, that's not bad. I've got a carousel CD
as part of my radio system and you've got me worried.
Got a feeling that 2 bill system might not be compatible.
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BAS said two bills, that's not bad. I've got a carousel CD
as part of my radio system and you've got me worried.
Got a feeling that 2 bill system might not be compatible.
I replaced the one in my 01 F150 when the volume stuck at full blast. ::gaah:: My eldest gave me a radio/CD player that plays MP3's. Of course the harness, cubbyhole enclosure, and 2 new speakers cost me about $120. ::bashing::
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BAS said two bills, that's not bad. I've got a carousel CD
as part of my radio system and you've got me worried.
Got a feeling that 2 bill system might not be compatible.
I replaced the one in my 01 F150 when the volume stuck at full blast. ::gaah:: My eldest gave me a radio/CD player that plays MP3's. Of course the harness, cubbyhole enclosure, and 2 new speakers cost me about $120. ::bashing::
Yours too, with the damn knob?! Sheesh!
The helpful man I spoke to at the Ford Service Department assured me aftermarket set-ups would be quite compatible, even with the CD changer, and with the existing dashboard faceplate, so we'll see.
I don't really hanker for the iPod/MP3 thingie so I can do without it.
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Right. Like I even know 3,000 songs to load on my MP3.
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Right. Like I even know 3,000 songs to load on my MP3.
So what if you only konow 2999 songs at your age it's no surprise that you don't remember? ::hysterical::
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Yours too, with the damn knob?! Sheesh!
The helpful man I spoke to at the Ford Service Department assured me aftermarket set-ups would be quite compatible, even with the CD changer, and with the existing dashboard faceplate, so we'll see.
I don't really hanker for the iPod/MP3 thingie so I can do without it.
Let us know and keep us apprised. Me too.
Mine's an '02 so it's coming due.
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Yours too, with the damn knob?! Sheesh!
The helpful man I spoke to at the Ford Service Department assured me aftermarket set-ups would be quite compatible, even with the CD changer, and with the existing dashboard faceplate, so we'll see.
I don't really hanker for the iPod/MP3 thingie so I can do without it.
Let us know and keep us apprised. Me too.
Mine's an '02 so it's coming due.
Yes, I will.
Because of that "coming due" phenomenon , when we get the new one installed, we'll send the old one out for repair so we have a good one on hand as Gunsmith's F250 is an '04. With the same type knobs.
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Right. Like I even know 3,000 songs to load on my MP3.
So what if you only konow 2999 songs at your age it's no surprise that you don't remember? ::hysterical::
::rimshot::