It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on December 29, 2011, 11:11:21 PM
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One nigga has a pair of Air Jordans and anothah nigga wan' dem shoes, and nigga wan' dem NOW muthafukkah. So what's a nigga to do? Well, for starters, beat the sh¡t outa da nigga wid da Air Jordans and take dem muthafukkin shoes, nigga!
Pretty logical behavior, I think. What business does one nigga have spending $200 on a pair of sneakers, and expecting other niggas not to beat the sh¡t out of him and steal the shoes?
So, we have chimpanzees getting their cage rattled over a pair of basketball shoes, and "leaders" in the "African-American community" have something to say about it - fo sho. Lower the price of them goddam shoes, and take responsibility for the violence they are causing. Nike and Michael Jordan should be ashamed of themselves, forcing all those good niggas to turn against each other over a pair of shoes.
Linked to theblaze.com...
Activists Blame Nike Shoes for Rising Crime, Demand Company Lower Prices to ‘Meet Customer Demand’ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/activists-blame-nike-air-jordans-for-rising-crime-demand-it-lower-prices-to-meet-customer-demand/)
Houston activists and ministers are calling on Nike and Michael Jordan to change the way they sell the highly-coveted Air Jordan sneakers.
In case you haven’t heard what happened when Nike released the latest edition of the shoe, there were multiple arrests... And in several cases, the police had to be called in to control near-rioting crowds...
After the various violent mishaps that followed the release of the shoes, community leaders claim the people at the top should take responsibility...
Why would people get violent over $200 shoes?
“I’ve never seen anybody be killed or jumped over a TV. For some reason it’s the shoes,” said Maria Hernandez in the My FOX Houston report.
One local tried to explain the mad, and oftentimes violent, dash to get the much sought-after shoes.
“These shoes have always had a place of value in Black life,” said Malik Ingram.
Outside Greenspoint Mall on Wednesday activist Quanell X (yes, that Quanell X) and ministers demanded that Michael Jordan and Nike founder Phil Knight “lower the price of the shoes and meet customer demand,” reports FOX.
“It is the responsibility of Michael Jordan and Nike to stand up and be part of the solution. Right now it’s a public safety issue with children wearing those sneakers,” said Quanell X.
“The people that can least afford these shoes are buying them, and what happens as a result of that? Well there’s more crime,” said Ben Mendez, a Hispanic business leader....
...“We’re not trying to make it logical. We‘re simply saying it’s going to take all of us collectively to take responsibility for making a change,” said Bishop James Dixon, Community of Faith Church.
But does basic economics agree with the leaders’ calls for Nike to lower the price to meet customer demand? Do they believe that a lower price would really fix the violence associated with these shoes?
First, if Nike were to adjust anything to “meet customer demand,” they would increase the price of the shoe. If customers are willing to face arrests for a $200 shoe, then they would probably be willing to spend an extra $50 if Nike increased the price. And if Nike continued to increase the price, that would mean more people would not be able to afford the shoes, thus lowering the amount of people busting down the doors to get them.
However, that’s probably not what Quanell X had in mind when he referenced “customer demand.” He probably meant that Nike should lower the price so all people who want them can get them.
And that‘s where this really doesn’t make sense. If Nike lowered the price so that everyone could afford them, and these shoes have been described as being an integral part of the community life, do these community activists really think that there will be a decline in violence in the immediate future?
Consider this: take the violence that has erupted over these shoes, not because they are expensive but because they are prestigious, and multiply that number by the amount of people who can now afford the shoe.
If Nike were to lower the price of the shoe, the stores selling them would most likely see an exponential increase in short-term violence as people rush to get the shoes.
Problem not solved.
As far as that “not trying to make it logical” part is concerned, some would say they are doing a pretty good job.
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I know Greenspoint Mall very, very well. It was built and opened while I was in high school in Houston. Located on I-45 at the end of the FM 1960 "main drag."
It was (at the time) in a very upscale urban area.
When I was a senior in high school it had, however, already begun to show the early signs of societal decay. A friend went to see a movie there and was nearly beaten to death with a shovel handle by a gang of Mexican "youths" in the parking lot after the show was over.
In the intervening years the mall has decayed to the point where almost no major retailers will rent space in it. The un-official name for it is now "Gunpoint Mall."
It surprises me not in the least that behavior such as this took place there.
I wouldn't go near the place. Not even armed. There's no percentage in it.
I suspect that a large number of Hurricane Katrina deadbeats settled in the area. Thanks, Mayor White! (Democrat, duh)
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Here is a blog post (http://www.dreamindemon.com/2007/11/27/greenspoint-mall-shooting-2-dead/) about a 2007 killing at Greenspoint. From the comments:
I'm originally from the Houston area.
Greenspoint Mall has been known as "Gunspoint Mall" for years.
I would never shop there.
When I lived in Houston back in 1988 I worked at that mall. I am so glad that I moved because afterwards it got bad in that area of town. That mall is so aptly called " Gunspoint" Mall.
The graphic at the top of the blogpost is not far from the truth at all.
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I know Greenspoint Mall very, very well. It was built and opened while I was in high school in Houston. Located on I-45 at the end of the FM 1960 "main drag."
It was (at the time) in a very upscale urban area.
When I was a senior in high school it had, however, already begun to show the early signs of societal decay. A friend went to see a movie there and was nearly beaten to death with a shovel handle by a gang of Mexican "youths" in the parking lot after the show was over.
In the intervening years the mall has decayed to the point where almost no major retailers will rent space in it. The un-official name for it is now "Gunpoint Mall."
It surprises me not in the least that behavior such as this took place there.
I wouldn't go near the place. Not even armed. There's no percentage in it.
I suspect that a large number of Hurricane Katrina deadbeats settled in the area. Thanks, Mayor White! (Democrat, duh)
I don't know if they still do...
KBR (Kellogs Brown & Root) did their training in that mall. The old J.C. Penny's space was taken over for training recruits to send to Iraq/Afghanistan for a week before shipping them over to the big sandbox.
Yeah... Suckiest week of my life.
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From the comments at Trap's link:
(and quite possibly the whitest comment I have ever read . . .)
Oh wait, I've been to Concord Mills too.
I guess when I'm in Charlotte, I go to South Park because we don't have a Nordstrom's, Sephora or Tiffany's here.
ETA:
I need to get some activist to march over to Leith Mercedes on Capitol Blvd. in Raleigh to demand that "dey lower dey price of dey Mercedes to meet customer demand . . .".
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Catch the similarities between ape activity and religion of pieces activity: it's your fault we act like animals because your behavior infuriates us, and we will continue to act like animals until you give us what we want.
In the case of the apes, they want "free and reduced" sneaker prices.
In the case of the piecers, they want us shackled per sharia.
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I remember the exact same crap happening with the original Air Jordans back in the late 80s & early 90s. For a while the big fad was the oversized coat bearing the Oakland Raiders logo. People were robbed and killed for those too.
These are primitive, flashy people easily mesmerized by trinkets. How often do you see the same sorts riding around in an old beat up 20 year old BMW or Mercedes? It's got that hood ornament, and that's what is important!
As for this whole blaming anyone but the thugs themselves mentality...what can you say. We have incubated a multi-generational and pathological inability to take responsibility for oneself. And it has been 100% by design.
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Catch the similarities between ape activity and religion of pieces activity: it's your fault we act like animals because your behavior infuriates us, and we will continue to act like animals until you give us what we want.
In the case of the apes, they want "free and reduced" sneaker prices.
In the case of the piecers, they want us shackled per sharia.
Well, you see you created a moral hazard the mentally and morally inferior Negro simply can't cope with. You simply can't dangle a banana in front of a dozen monkeys and expect them to form a queue or work for it! The NIGGERS ( word used here to describe behavior as per what I hope becomes a forum tradition) simply don't have the social or moral where-with all to do such things.
Likewise, You can't expect a towel head to keep his hands off a woman, or to not steal or murder. . They are lecherous, unprincipled and uncontrollable beasts. They need Sharia to reign them in.
What? That is racist? Then why are Black leaders making that argument? Why is the entire Religion of Islam set up with that assumption?
The hard racism of low expectations is all that is required to keep black or olive skinned people down, and they do it to themselves. Whites play no role in the equation - other than to help reinforce the idea by comparative example.
But really ALL liberals are like that. They are neanderthal hunter-gatherers that expect any material gain to be equally divided amongst the tribe and disputes to be settled by combat .. no matter where that gain came from, or what the dispute is about. The basic principles of right and wrong are beyond them, and as such, so are laws, property rights, individual rights and pretty much the rest of the civilized world. Right = Might, and the rule of the jungle is all these barbarian apes can or will ever understand.
I think its very likely to be genetic in origin, perhaps triggered by external event. But it certainly doesn't follow only racial lines, though there does seem to be a correlation ( which isn't causation) I have known too many Blacks who "Act White" and too many white-niggers to think that races can be used as an indicator. The sure fire test is to ask them why the believe something and how they came to that conclusion. If they can't answer, then you know they have the disorder.
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Exactly, it's culture not color. LBJ codified and legitimized dependency, subordination and irresponsibility, and every subsequent generation has devolved further from the norm.
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Well....If I were Nike, i'd drop the price. Of course, my motive probably wouldn't be theirs.
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I guess this spring I'm gonna hang out at Cabela's and beat the snot out of guys carrying GLoomis rods, and take them for myself. Then Black Activists™ will rush to my defense and blame GLoomis and all the Bass-fishing pros with endorsement contracts.
The idea that people would actually take this position - defending criminals and blaming a product for its attractiveness to thieves and thugs - is just absolutely frikking insane.
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Well....If I were Nike, i'd drop the price. Of course, my motive probably wouldn't be theirs.
Not me. I'd cut production to a dozen or so pairs of shoes per city, then and air-drop them in the middle of the hood. May the best nigga win.
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Well....If I were Nike, i'd drop the price. Of course, my motive probably wouldn't be theirs.
Not me. I'd cut production to a dozen or so pairs of shoes per city, then and air-drop them in the middle of the hood. May the best nigga win.
I could live with this plan. Different cities need different marketing campaigns.
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I guess this spring I'm gonna hang out at Cabela's and beat the snot out of guys carrying GLoomis rods, and take them for myself. Then Black Activists™ will rush to my defense and blame GLoomis and all the Bass-fishing pros with endorsement contracts.
LOLOL! I'm sorry for laughing, but the image of a White blondie lurking around looking to snot-beat anybody for the opportunity of a fishing rod mugging ....... ::snerk::
The idea that people would actually take this position - defending criminals and blaming a product for its attractiveness to thieves and thugs - is just absolutely frikking insane.
And THEN, on top of it, to outright admit it's illogical!
Insane doesn't quite describe what's happened to men's reasoning and morals today, and the lack of them. This country's people are Sodom and Gomorrah-ing themselves, carelessly and unselfconsciously.
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"Somebody's gonna have to be accountable and pay for all these chilldrns."
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
Speakin of . . .
Have you seen the price of chicken lately in the market? It already has doubled.
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
Stop....We don't need the thugs figuring out where chicken(s) come from. I like my rural lifestyle.
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
It would be a veritable repeat of the Watermelon Riots of 1974...
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
It would be a veritable repeat of the Watermelon Riots of 1974...
two words......Pigs feet.
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My God ... What would happen if the price of fried chicken tripled ?
It would be a veritable repeat of the Watermelon Riots of 1974...
Wait. What? Are you leg-pulling, Glock?
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I remember 74.....Graduating high school and watermelons were busted and stolen everywhere. I found solace in cantelope.
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Yes, lots of people discovered cantaloupe out of sheer necessity in '74. I fear we may soon be staring down the barrel of a Chitlin Coup or Ox-tail Insurrection.
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From Pineville, North Carolina: “Black Eye Friday: Shoppers throw punches over new Air Jordans” (includes video);
From Tukwila, Washington: “Crowd waiting for new Air Jordans clashes with police” (with video)
From Louisville, Kentucky: “WITNESS: Fight breaks out at Jefferson Mall over sneakers” (with video)
From Richmond, California: “Mall Gunfire Over New Jordan Shoes” (with video)
From Taylor, Michigan: “Shoppers Waiting For Shoe Release Riot, Break Into Mall”
Plus the two stories I’ve previously linked (here and here):
From Lithonia, Georgia: “Race for New Air Jordan Sneakers Turns Ugly at a Metro Atlanta Mall” (with video)
From Burlington, New Jersey: “Witness: Guns At Air Jordan Stampede”
Especially piquant is the lead paragraph of the story from Richmond, California, written as only a nice white liberal boy (reporter Mathew Luschek) could have written it:
Everybody wants a nice pair of shoes. So much so, that when the new Nike Air Jordan’s went on sale this morning, people were willing to fire off weapons to get to them.
See? It’s just normal behavior. And lest you suspect Luschek is being sneakily ironic, the whole article is written in the typical bland incurious non-reactive manner of contemporary local journalism covering black mayhem. Which tells us that when Luschek wrote, “Everybody wants a nice pair of shoes,” he didn’t have a single ironic thought in his brain. He meant it.
Auster (http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/021290.html)
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"Why in the world do white people not engage in similar actions--fights, shootings, stabbings, riots with police--when they line up to purchase Apple's newest products, such as the iPad, iPhone or iPod?"
Because, we haven't been given the green light from the politicians and the media that it is OK to do so.
Duh!
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I wouldn't lower myself.
I don't get it, people lining up for hours, or days, to buy anything; the Black Friday hype -- people camping out in line -- nutso.
We're not talking depression-era needs here, not at $180 for a stinkin' pair of "sneakers". And speaking of which, that's a lot of money for the "pore&starvin" EBT cohort, isn't it?
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I didn't realize apples had so many types......I've never eaten red, golden delicious but never an ipad. Should I riot?
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Never got the line thing either.
But then again, ever since getting out of the service I rarely choose to stand in any line.
Anyone familiar with "hurry up and wait" knows of what I speak.
And waiting in line to give my cash away for some trinket? Not in my DNA!
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"Why in the world do white people not engage in similar actions--fights, shootings, stabbings, riots with police--when they line up to purchase Apple's newest products, such as the iPad, iPhone or iPod?"
I have to recall a few instances of tramplings at Walmart over electronics (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/business/29walmart.html), or Tickle-me-Elmo (http://archives.cbc.ca/society/celebrations/clips/2364/), or assaults over Beanie Babies... (http://articles.dailypress.com/2001-02-17/news/0102170213_1_bus-driver-beanie-baby-school-officials)
The shoe-stealing thing is unique to Blacks, but mob-mentality over the lust to obtain a limited item from a store is pretty colorblind I think.
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True IDP, would be interesting to get full statistics (including economic status and political affiliation) for all mob-related mayhem.
I'm guessing there is a reason none of that is ever disclosed...
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True IDP, would be interesting to get full statistics (including economic status and political affiliation) for all mob-related mayhem.
I'm guessing there is a reason none of that is ever disclosed...
There is no question that the violence of Blacks to get these shoes takes on a whole new intensity, so I don't mean to minimize that. Obviously from my initial post you can see how I feel about it. But while people weren't shooting each other over Beanie Babies or Elmos, they were certainly abandoning their civility and taking on the mentality of the mob over a retail product. Both actions defy common sense and speak to the base nature of humanity. I guess where the difference is lies in the actions one takes when the base nature takes over. Niggas pull out guns and steal shoes. White trash trample their neighbors to be first with their hands on a doll.
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Yup, neither are poster material for ideal humans, but one is decidedly worse and grossly glossed over and excused. I care little for either group, they can have all the sneakers and dolls they want when the SHTF, I'll be long gone...