It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Libertas on January 18, 2012, 07:58:31 PM
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-wife-to-unleash-potentially-career-ending-bombshell-about-gingrich-during-abc-interview-source-claims-network-now-in-civil-war/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-wife-to-unleash-potentially-career-ending-bombshell-about-gingrich-during-abc-interview-source-claims-network-now-in-civil-war/)
Drudge reports that executives at ABCNews say it would be “unethical” to run Marianne Gingrich’s interview so close to South Carolina Primary and that a tentative decision has been made to broadcast the interview next Monday after all votes have been counted.
ETA - Much is old news, what more could be added? Pics? Audio tape? ?
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And then there is this idiot hopping atop the hogpile...
Former President Jimmy Carter said there’s a “subtlety of racism” to Newt Gingrich’s comments about food stamps and welfare while on the campaign trail in South Carolina.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jimmy-carter-gingrich-has-that-subtlety-of-racism/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jimmy-carter-gingrich-has-that-subtlety-of-racism/)
Uhh huh. The second worst POTUS ever has a certain "unsubtle kind of imbecility" about him!
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-wife-to-unleash-potentially-career-ending-bombshell-about-gingrich-during-abc-interview-source-claims-network-now-in-civil-war/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-wife-to-unleash-potentially-career-ending-bombshell-about-gingrich-during-abc-interview-source-claims-network-now-in-civil-war/)
Drudge reports that executives at ABCNews say it would be “unethical” to run Marianne Gingrich’s interview so close to South Carolina Primary and that a tentative decision has been made to broadcast the interview next Monday after all votes have been counted.
ETA - Much is old news, what more could be added? Pics? Audio tape? ?
Jeesh.......does it never end? I remember a president who unloaded a bombshell on a blue dress........ But these same media types claimed it was his private life, so hands off.
I remember a presidential hopeful who was cheating on his dying wife......and it took a piece of trash paper to break the story.
I remember a presidential hopeful who married into ketchup money......multi millions, much more than mitt, but I guess these media types were into rich white dudes then.
It's so frustrating on so many levels and no need to state them again.
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They want Romney. Perry could win flat out, he's got no stink, every Dhim in Tx and
the DNC has looked and every opponent has looked. He was born a dirt poor dirt
farmer, became an Eagle Scout, an Aggie, a GI, a dirt farmer, then politician. He's out.
They are going to juggle it between Newt and Santorum until voters have overload and
in the meantime make sure it's all sprinkled with Romney stink. Conservatives are
being played and the country is being played.
Heard on the radio that freaking Bill Kristol suggested Ron thePaul go third party!
Perot ensured Clinton, Nader screwed AlGore, now snarkey thinks it'll be cool to
screw us. He and Krauthammer ought to go bunk up and shut up.
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You are both correct. Don highlights the hypocrisy and CO the reasons behind it. If anybody has any doubt Obama and the media want Romney served up to them for swift sacrifice is just not paying attention and may be irreversibly stupid to boot!
I heard that Kristol crap on ZH today CO, and I lit a firestorm over it. Kristol is insane.
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You are both correct. Don highlights the hypocrisy and CO the reasons behind it. If anybody has any doubt Obama and the media want Romney served up to them for swift sacrifice is just not paying attention and may be irreversibly stupid to boot!
I heard that Kristol crap on ZH today CO, and I lit a firestorm over it. Kristol is insane.
If it is Romney, this country is going to be subjected to the largest class envy/ warfare campaign ever......we just think its disgusting now. We have been spoon fed this crap since the inauguration of Obama......but the best is yet to come. What better avenue to cover your "record of achievement " than create the biggest divide ever, using class envy to build hatred.
This is so infuriating but I'll give the libs credit.......construct a misleading wall of separation of church and state, take god out, re write history, demand acceptance of immorality, build an amoral army, subject half the people to generations of welfare under the guise of compassion and then use envy as a weapon.
May these people rot in hell.
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...If it is Romney, this country is going to be subjected to the largest class envy/ warfare campaign ever......we just think its disgusting now....
Yup. When the election should be about whether or not the nation chooses to become Socialist according to Obama's record and rhetoric, it will instead be about class warfare. The media will help the Leftists craft the narrative. Even if the economy crashes over the summer, they will help Obama make the election about the rich vs the rest of us, and the subject of whether we slide into Socialism will fight for airtime.
May these people rot in hell.
I have little doubt they will. My prayer is that they will rot in hell for sins they've already committed, and not for sins yet to be committed. The depravity of human beings bent on Leftism can still sink many magnitudes deeper into evil before this crop of Leftists match the evil of their 20th century predecessors. My prayer is that they are stopped before the true nature of Leftist evil is forced upon us.
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This is so infuriating but I'll give the libs credit.......construct a misleading wall of separation of church and state, take god out, re write history, demand acceptance of immorality, build an amoral army, subject half the people to generations of welfare under the guise of compassion and then use envy as a weapon.
It's as if they took the Seven Deadly Sins and made them the basis of their whole ideology.
I do get the feeling that something changed, or rather some long-planned conspiracy was recently activated. The left has always been a bunch of degenerates, so maybe there's nothing really new, but it just seems like we have entered into uncharted territory with the election of this POS. I think they caught a glimpse of the finish line and they're now in their endgame mode. When I see this bastard speak, I can honestly picture him ushering in some open-ended "emergency" scenario and executing a coup d'etat. I mean why not, they've already done an end run around the Constitution. I honestly believe the only difference between him and people like Stalin and Mao is circumstance and opportunity. I think he and his ilk would not bat an eye at perpetrating mass institutionalized murder against us if given the opportunity. They are the agents of something evil.
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I honestly believe the only difference between him and people like Stalin and Mao is circumstance and opportunity
Maybe millions and millions of guns and gun owners
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I honestly believe the only difference between him and people like Stalin and Mao is circumstance and opportunity
Maybe millions and millions of guns and gun owners
Yup. If he has the seeds of a full-on genocidal megalomaniac in him, he's got his work cut out for him.
Molon Labe.
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I remember a presidential hopeful who married into ketchup money......multi millions, much more than mitt, but I guess these media types were into rich white dudes then.
Yeah ... A lot of people forget about "Cash and Kerry" ! ;D
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I honestly believe the only difference between him and people like Stalin and Mao is circumstance and opportunity
Maybe millions and millions of guns and gun owners
Nothing unusual about the 2nd Amendment being the one Bill of Rights the dem's fear above all others, and the one they've been undermining 24/7/365 for the past 4 decades!
I've just about had it...they want a circumstance, they want an opportunity...damn, I'm tired of the zombie dance...I'm ready to bring things to a head. Hell, the political dunces supposedly on our side are virtually guaranteeing it anyway!
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gNewt wanted an "open" marriage.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-gingrich-lacks-moral-character-president-wife/story?id=15392899 (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-gingrich-lacks-moral-character-president-wife/story?id=15392899)
Gosh, how progressive!
And with Perry bowing out, he and Santorum are all that stand between Romney and assured disaster...
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4541.new.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4541.new.html)
...well, I think we have assured disaster...
Time to look a lot harder at the Galt plans!
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So with Perry now out of the race, we are down to Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and...ahem...Paul. Let history show that in America's great existential crisis, this was the best the GOP could do.
I really hate that Gingrich seems to have multiple political personality disorder, because when he's "on" no one articulates conservatism better. He had some great lines in the debate in Myrtle Beach the other night. At this point I am leaning toward supporting him, out of what's available. Maybe with Perry's departure we will finally see where the ABR conservatives are coalescing.
The circumstances we find ourselves in, combined with the thoroughly lackluster response from "our" party, makes me want to indulge very much in a "take my ball and go home" attitude. I want to just say to hell with the whole thing. But then I can't bear the thought of letting the current POS just waltz back into the White House to complete his work as the architect of destruction.
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The options are set:
Romney wins and we receive Obama lite
Romney loses and we receive Obama
Santorum wins and we receive GOP delight, with pro-life topping
Gingrich wins and we receive, God willing, a born again gNewt who
having taken his conservative vows and made his pledge to God will
remain faithful.
If he doesn't we'll be no worse off than we would have
been. Sarah sealed the deal. May God help us all, I'm with Newt.
Soup, may you have been correct all along.
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This (http://www.dcbureau.org/201112136815/national-security-news-service/newt-gingrich-marianne-and-the-arms-dealera-buried-fbi-investigation.html#more-6815) is scary, not the superficial were they dealing part but the
sophisticated level of involvement in world affairs.
Most politicians couldn't operate their own business, as Savage says of Lieberman, " he would own a Buick dealership". (If you're too young, Buick was known as "the doctors car".
Here we have the man and wife as high level independent operators each. And at this
time, working together.
Victoria Toensing, a former Reagan administration official, was Mrs. Gingrich’s private attorney. She and her husband, former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, were one of the most prominent political couples in Washington in the 1990s. Mrs. Gingrich says, “She told me the Justice Department suspected I was involved in arms dealing.” Ms. Toensing confirmed to the media in 2002 that her client did meet with Soghanalian in Paris, but she said that Mrs. Gingrich went only to help “Mr. Ash secure funding from Mr. Soghanalian…T
Ash was also Marianne Gingrich’s boss at the Israel Export Development Corporation (IEDC).
Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies, (IASPS)
Marianne Gingrich says her boss at the IEDC, David Yerushalmi, called and asked her to make the trip to Paris. Yerushalmi served as counsel to both the IEDC and the IASPS.
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"Let history show that in America's great existential crisis, this was the best the GOP could do."
This is where I am stuck at.
"But then I can't bear the thought of letting the current POS just waltz back into the White House to complete his work as the architect of destruction."
And this is what those GOP operatives are counting on, that you'll cave in before they have to.
They can take their game and stuff it! Obama, Romney, gNewt...? Really, that's a choice? It's a fricken gun to the head!
Just pull the trigger...
::falldownshocked::
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If Newt still has a chance after the "bombshell" today, I'll support him. Although it currently doesn't seem like much of a bombshell. Newt cheated on Marianne, and refused to stop seeing Calista when she found out. Nothing new there.
I read this morning that a large group of tea party leaders are now ready to support Newt. Newt's now making a play for Paul voters by saying we should at least consider going back to a gold standard (and getting our financial house in order). He seems to have momentum in the polls. I'd be willing to support him despite his personal ethical issues and his occasional lapse into liberalism. I'd rather see him President than Romney(care).
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That's just it, I don't think Romney will get beat. Santorum will be targeted next by the Establishment, he is the next most reliable conservative. Once he's gone then gNewt will be targeted, if he survives this open marriage crap and doesn't screw the pooch somehow. Then Paul will be ignored en masse, he's easily ignored now as a fringe candidate. It will be Romney, I'd bet the house on it.
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Newt may be smarter than all the e-GOP combined, we know he has
more guts. Santorum is out of his league and with Palin backing Newt
there is a fighting chance we may have Newt as our candidate. And
Newt in the general is a much stronger candidate than Romney.
Stronger as in probable potential to win.
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Yeah, probably CO. But somebody may have to come and pick up my serverely inebriated ass and drag me to the polls...otherwise I'll just keep bashing my liver...
::unknowncomic::
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Rush said it the other day. If he would just tie half his brain behind his back.
Hey, it will be either him sending the country to hell or
Obama sending the country to hell or the chance that
he uses the conservative side of his brain and saves
the nation.
The choice is clear, save your liver.
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::smalldeadhorse::
This (http://www.dcbureau.org/201112136815/national-security-news-service/newt-gingrich-marianne-and-the-arms-dealera-buried-fbi-investigation.html#more-6815) is scary, not the superficial were they dealing part but the
sophisticated level of involvement in world affairs.
Most politicians couldn't operate their own business, as Savage says of Lieberman, " he would own a Buick dealership". (If you're too young, Buick was known as "the doctors car".
Here we have the man and wife as high level independent operators each. And at this
time, working together.
Victoria Toensing, a former Reagan administration official, was Mrs. Gingrich’s private attorney. She and her husband, former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, were one of the most prominent political couples in Washington in the 1990s. Mrs. Gingrich says, “She told me the Justice Department suspected I was involved in arms dealing.” Ms. Toensing confirmed to the media in 2002 that her client did meet with Soghanalian in Paris, but she said that Mrs. Gingrich went only to help “Mr. Ash secure funding from Mr. Soghanalian…T
Ash was also Marianne Gingrich’s boss at the Israel Export Development Corporation (IEDC).
Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies, (IASPS)
Marianne Gingrich says her boss at the IEDC, David Yerushalmi, called and asked her to make the trip to Paris. Yerushalmi served as counsel to both the IEDC and the IASPS.
This is an important article, maybe I'm the only person not aware of this, if a person
is interested in getting a handle on how involved or complex Newt is or how involved
and intelligent Marianne is, read it.
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Rush said it the other day. If he would just tie half his brain behind his back.
Hey, it will be either him sending the country to hell or
Obama sending the country to hell or the chance that
he uses the conservative side of his brain and saves
the nation.
The choice is clear, save your liver.
What's clear? ::bashing::
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::smalldeadhorse::
This (http://www.dcbureau.org/201112136815/national-security-news-service/newt-gingrich-marianne-and-the-arms-dealera-buried-fbi-investigation.html#more-6815) is scary, not the superficial were they dealing part but the
sophisticated level of involvement in world affairs.
Most politicians couldn't operate their own business, as Savage says of Lieberman, " he would own a Buick dealership". (If you're too young, Buick was known as "the doctors car".
Here we have the man and wife as high level independent operators each. And at this
time, working together.
Victoria Toensing, a former Reagan administration official, was Mrs. Gingrich’s private attorney. She and her husband, former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, were one of the most prominent political couples in Washington in the 1990s. Mrs. Gingrich says, “She told me the Justice Department suspected I was involved in arms dealing.” Ms. Toensing confirmed to the media in 2002 that her client did meet with Soghanalian in Paris, but she said that Mrs. Gingrich went only to help “Mr. Ash secure funding from Mr. Soghanalian…T
Ash was also Marianne Gingrich’s boss at the Israel Export Development Corporation (IEDC).
Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies, (IASPS)
Marianne Gingrich says her boss at the IEDC, David Yerushalmi, called and asked her to make the trip to Paris. Yerushalmi served as counsel to both the IEDC and the IASPS.
This is an important article, maybe I'm the only person not aware of this, if a person
is interested in getting a handle on how involved or complex Newt is or how involved
and intelligent Marianne is, read it.
OK, I'll bite. What the heck am I supposed to think of this? A lot of hearsay and stuff, where's the documentation that proves connection to an arms deal? Where are the connections to anybody that met these clowns anything nefarious was going down. Bad associations are one thing, but if you didn't invite them, without a pattern of serial contacts, what can one conclude?
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::smalldeadhorse::
This (http://www.dcbureau.org/201112136815/national-security-news-service/newt-gingrich-marianne-and-the-arms-dealera-buried-fbi-investigation.html#more-6815) is scary, not the superficial w[h]ere [sic] they dealing part but the
sophisticated level of involvement in world affairs.
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OK, I'll bite. What the heck am I supposed to think of this? A lot of hearsay and stuff, where's the documentation that proves connection to an arms deal? Where are the connections to anybody that met these clowns anything nefarious was going down. Bad associations are one thing, but if you didn't invite them, without a pattern of serial contacts, what can one conclude?
Not the arms deal.
It is fact, where they were, who the people they were working with and for.
It sure as hell ain't no Buick dealers they were associating with.
And doing it in Paris to boot.
They could have been working w/the CIA/Mossad for all we know.
The article illustrates heavy company, heavy lifting. I'm sure there
are but I can't think of many elected officials that are capable of
functioning at this level.
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I'm wanting Santorum to gain momentum......But if he does not, I'm going to support Newt and hope, as CO stated, for a born again Newt. Newt does have a track record from the 90's that is strong and heck, as President, what else could the media elite do to him? I believe he would enact real change.....but I also think it of Santorum too.
I also appreciate the words from Perry, in regards to Newt.....It appears, maybe, a sit down, come to Jesus discussion, and Perry certainly sounded sincere. Hard to fake it. I'm willing to forgive and forget, if Newt embraces the conservative force and has changed his life.
Maybe a Perry VP?
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I wouldn't mind Perry as VP, TX is a big state, he's got a good governing track record, and a mop could beat Plugs in a Veep debate.
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gNewt would drive him nuts.
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Gingrich/Perry? Or, I still wonder if Mama Grizzly might wind up in a VP slot again. Her oblique endorsement of Newt might mean something.
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Calista won't like that.