I have followed this subject for several years now. Not all these EO"s were signed by Obama but he has closed the loop and is now in a position to finish his coup.He'll die trying! ::laserkill::
Read this article and then search around to see what you can find out.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm)
Yeah, one must definitely take it into consideration
you just can't take it to the bank.
Libertas. You saw it too. Thanks for taking the time to actually research the fact that this is not only possible, but may be part of Obama's plans.
We sail in very dangerous waters my friend.
... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!
... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!
Walks like a Liberal, Talks like a liberal, its probably a liberal.
Kerry would have been worse, which is the problem. The GOP only has to be marginally less liberal than the Democrats, so they say the right things, and pretend to have principles, and then cave to every Democratic demand because those demands always serve to enhance their power and booty as well.
We should primary random people from the phone book.
We should primary random people from the phone book.
I rather see anarchy than Romney!
...Romney isn't the second coming of Reagan....
what? you think Romney and his liberal nonsense is better than Anarchy? ...
what? you think Romney and his liberal nonsense is better than Anarchy?
At least with anarchy - someone tries to harm mine or take whats mine - I can drop them on the spot!
Romney is just going to schmooze the liberal agenda - most like worst than the little Bush did which was horrendous!
ROMNEY (like the little Bush) is UNACCEPTABLE! To tolerate this kind of nonsense is not even as conservative as JFK was ...
Romney had his own RomneyCare and JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you ..."
...JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you ..."
what? you think Romney and his liberal nonsense is better than Anarchy? ...
Yes. Anarchy leads to tyranny. Always. As nature abhors a vacuum, nations abhor the same. Romney is not a Marxist. Obama is. Regardless of what you choose to do at the polls, that much should be clear.
Like I said, no faith - just hope.
... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!
Walks like a Liberal, Talks like a liberal, its probably a liberal.
Kerry would have been worse, which is the problem. The GOP only has to be marginally less liberal than the Democrats, so they say the right things, and pretend to have principles, and then cave to every Democratic demand because those demands always serve to enhance their power and booty as well.
We should primary random people from the phone book.
on twitter I have commented to Boener and GOP about why they ALLOWED one of the more liberal news channels (CNN) to host the first debate?
They don't see a problem with that? REALLY??
Look at Romney - he has ALREADY stood for abortions and gays ... HOW IS THAT A REPUBLICAN VALUE??
WTF PPL! ... are that many people brain dead??
I rather see anarchy than Romney!
So many people have gotten so numb to extreme liberalism that they now GLADLY accept the lesser evils.
I don't know ...So many people have gotten so numb to extreme liberalism that they now GLADLY accept the lesser evils.
So who will you be voting for? I think I know but I'd like to hear it from you.
I don't know ...So many people have gotten so numb to extreme liberalism that they now GLADLY accept the lesser evils.
So who will you be voting for? I think I know but I'd like to hear it from you.
What are you voting for? to eat the cow patty or the bull dung?
BOTH ARE WRONG
I don't know ...
What are you voting for? to eat the cow patty or the bull dung?
BOTH ARE WRONG
I don't know ...So many people have gotten so numb to extreme liberalism that they now GLADLY accept the lesser evils.
So who will you be voting for? I think I know but I'd like to hear it from you.
What are you voting for? to eat the cow patty or the bull dung?
BOTH ARE WRONG
Sorry, you first. "I don't know" isn't on the ballot.
Everyone here knows who I will vote for. I will be happy to reveal it to you but I want to know who you are going to choose first so come on, cough it up.
Sorry, you first. "I don't know" isn't on the ballot.
Everyone here knows who I will vote for. I will be happy to reveal it to you but I want to know who you are going to choose first so come on, cough it up.
NONE OF THE ABOVE ... they are BOTH Bovine manure - why would I want to approve that crap?
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...NONE OF THE ABOVE ... they are BOTH Bovine manure - why would I want to approve that crap?
So you won't be voting for anyone? Do I have that right? You are sitting this one out, are you?
LA is describing this -if this site would let people get rep points - you would get my first one.
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/socialismfront585.jpg)
And the antidote is?
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...
after all your boy is pro gay!
if this site would let people get rep points - you would get my first one.
these people are to saturated to see above the problem.
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...
after all your boy is pro gay!
I don't see how not voting will make a statement as you will be lost in the 40% who do that on a regular basis. I mean, I don't see how it hurts, either, and considered doing it myself ( at least for President) but in the end, its probably too big of a risk leaving Obama in office when this thing blows up.
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...NONE OF THE ABOVE ... they are BOTH Bovine manure - why would I want to approve that crap?
So you won't be voting for anyone? Do I have that right? You are sitting this one out, are you?
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...
after all your boy is pro gay!
I don't see how not voting will make a statement as you will be lost in the 40% who do that on a regular basis. I mean, I don't see how it hurts, either, and considered doing it myself ( at least for President) but in the end, its probably too big of a risk leaving Obama in office when this thing blows up.
if this site would let people get rep points - you would get my first one.
these people are to saturated to see above the problem.
Oh they see it L.A. they just have different thoughts as to how best to handle it. There is a contingent here that understands what you are saying, we see the problem, and we know the eventual remedy that we will be forced to. Everyone will get there in time.
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...
after all your boy is pro gay!
I don't see how not voting will make a statement as you will be lost in the 40% who do that on a regular basis. I mean, I don't see how it hurts, either, and considered doing it myself ( at least for President) but in the end, its probably too big of a risk leaving Obama in office when this thing blows up.
It's simple:
I am 100% against abortion as an easy out for being a clueless tramp
I am 100% against government backed insurance (both RomneyCare and ObamaCare)
I am 100% against accepting gay as a tolerable lifestyle
Why would I support what I DO NOT support?
Why cave on my values?
... you can go ahead and cave all you want - we are still free (for now) to do so -- maybe you will be granted a daughter who gets knocked up and aborts your only grandchild because her wife says so
CORRECT! I am a MAN with purpose - I refuse to sit on the shaft --- if you want it rammed to you - go ahead and giggle ...NONE OF THE ABOVE ... they are BOTH Bovine manure - why would I want to approve that crap?
So you won't be voting for anyone? Do I have that right? You are sitting this one out, are you?
Okay, well, whatever, Mr. Purpose.
You have the right to vote or not vote and I will certainly not condemn you for exercising that right.
But I will take exception to your flaming about how wise your choice is and how foolish everyone else's is.
I will vote for the candidate who has the best chance of beating O'Bama. Currently and for the foreseeable future that candidate is Romney.
I am not enamored of Romney and have no illusions about his conservative credentials. But he doesn't hate America. O'Bama does. I will not condone a second O'Bama term by refusing to vote or for voting for a candidate who has zero chance of beating him. But that's just me. And math.
And I do not agree that this is a choice between douche or turd. Because it's more complicated than that. But that's just me.
... you can go ahead and cave all you want - we are still free (for now) to do so -- maybe you will be granted a daughter who gets knocked up and aborts your only grandchild because her wife says so
The little Bush vote was a massive blemish on my self respect for knowing right from wrong.
It's real simple - no matter what is worse - wrong is wrong - even if it is the better of 2 evils
It's simple:
I am 100% against abortion as an easy out for being a clueless tramp
I am 100% against government backed insurance (both RomneyCare and ObamaCare)
I am 100% against accepting gay as a tolerable lifestyle
Why would I support what I DO NOT support?
Why cave on my values?
... you can go ahead and cave all you want - we are still free (for now) to do so -- maybe you will be granted a daughter who gets knocked up and aborts your only grandchild because her wife says so
This is troll type talk.
We permit a very wide latitude on speech here. You may be as politically incorrect as you like.
You can even insult others within reason.
But with this type of personal attack you are approaching the line.
So cool your jets.
I guess we skeered him off. ::saywhat::NOPE AIN'T SKEERED ...
He should check out ZeroHedge, got lots of Libertarians pissed that it is a Romney or Obama choice, most of the hardcore PaulBots there are having a temper-tantrum...they are absolutely 100% convinced the Jewish/Bankster/Trilateral/Bilderburg/Whateverthehellelseoutfit is all out to get them and that Democrats & Republicans are the same (if they said all Democrats & Liberal Republicans & RINO's are the same I'd have let them remove their tinfoil hat) and that the best message to send is to stay home and let Obama get reelected and let the whole nation slide into the toilet, yeah that'll show 'em!...Just so these clowns can stand up and say "I was right!". Sometimes the destruction you root for is the destruction you allow to happen by doing nothing. Obama isn't the only narcissist on the loose in these here parts!
??whats the question? I am saying is many so called Conservatives are NOT CONSERVATIVE
??
You should give some thought to boning up on the old grammar thingy.
??whats the question? I am saying is many so called Conservatives are NOT CONSERVATIVE
They are basically SOCK PUPPETS!
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You should give some thought to boning up on the old grammar thingy.
Thinking > Grammar
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You should give some thought to boning up on the old grammar thingy.
Thinking > Grammar
Coherence could use a little work, too.
CONSERVATIVE DOES NOT:
- support Abortion
- support Socialized Medical
- support homosexuality
- support a candidate that does
Your vote for Romney votes in favor of the above list - IT IS ILLOGICAL to honestly be a Conservative and vote for that RINO
What is hard to understand? You vote for him as a so called CONSERVATIVE - you are a liar to yourself and others.
Well, time for me to chime in.
DIAL BACK? naw ... I won't associate with habitual liars - Romney supporters are fraudulent Conservatives with no balls to accept the truthSCREW THIS HYPOCRITICAL NONSENSE ::hysterical::
YOU ARE GUTLESS WONDERS ... and a huge part of the problem with social and moral complacency ...
...And do you prefer Velostat® (http://stopabductions.com) or heavy duty Reynolds Wrap?
...And do you prefer Velostat® (http://stopabductions.com) or heavy duty Reynolds Wrap?
::hysterical::
Anyone think he should be allowed to continue posting here? Or should I pull the plug on him for good?
Geez, what an idiot.
Anyone think he should be allowed to continue posting here? Or should I pull the plug on him for good?
Certainly nothing to atone for Trap. Some of our most regular and valued members were invited in just such a manner. I'm not sure what this clown's game was, but I don't really care. I think Weisshaupt has it pegged pretty well. The guy wasn't engaging or defending anything - just dropping bombs. Even with attempts to engage him, and your mild admonition, he showed he was only interested in conflict for its own sake.
Okay, time for some disclosure on my part.
One of the things I do on an on-again-off-again basis is shop for new members.
I post in a lot of different places and leave our site address. I make it quite clear who and what we are all about so that I don't purposefully attract libs, lib trolls and their ilk. But that doesn't prevent them from showing up anyway. You take the good with the bad. Some of you have found your way here because of the breadcrumbs that I (and IDP) have left in other places.
I have a firm belief that our site must have new blood coming in all the time in order for it to remain healthy. (So while I'm at it I will encourage everyone to invite people you know to become members) I believe that if our forum isn't growing then it is dying.
Well, for the last twenty four to forty eight hours I have been recruiting from other places. I try the obvious places like the Facebook pages of conservative radio talk show hosts. I try some other places that are not exactly safe or sure bets like the "politics" forum at Amazon. Saturday night I was fortunate enough to get our forum listed on AoS on the Overnight Thread. I would not, of course, dream of recruiting from obvious danger areas like, say, the PuffHo or the NYTs or Salon...no point in literally inviting trouble here. I know that IDP posts in a diary on Red State from time to time for more or less the same reason.
So, I have no idea where that clod came from but it was probably my doing. And because of that I pretty much took responsibility for it, vetted him myself and dropped the ban hammer. I could have dropped it much sooner but I felt that I was entitled to have some fun for my trouble and there was more than a little entertainment value in feeding him rope. (Maybe we should link to this particular exchange in the FAQs as what NOT to do here as a new member)
So...there you have it. It's probably my fault and I apologize to everyone for wasting their time on him. That said, my experience with this sort of thing is that I almost never end up with such a stinker. So I will keep trying to attract new members. I really don't want our forum to go the way of CT and wither to the point that it just flat out dies. So this is somewhat of a personal crusade of mine. But I could use (hint, hint) some help.
Anyone think he should be allowed to continue posting here? Or should I pull the plug on him for good?
Well he was good at Loud. If he seemed interested in engaging with others and discussing, I would say keep him. However I don't see much evidence of that. As it was, he didn't seem very interested in explaining how not voting would in any way advance his cause. Its sheer hubris to think we were actually targeted with a mole, but maybe we were. Obama and his cretinous minions will be pulling out all of the stops, and if they can convince us to not show up on election day to "punish" Mittens for being the stupid RINO douchebag he is, then they will win.
Evidence suggesting a Mole:
1) Identifies as a Moderate ( but not the "liberal kind")
2) resorts almost immediately to name calling and derision
3) Reluctance to address the points and concerns of others
4) Reluctance to address questions about his own beliefs.
5) Actually defined a "Real conservative" with expectation of lockstep adherence
6) Argued for the one course of action that would be the most destructive for our cause. (Well, except for voting for Obama because you want to get to the collapse quicker.... wait, maybe I am the mole!)
This is the sort of thing I see on Democratic Underground when they have an internal disagreement.
The Paulbot hypothesis is valid, but normally the Paulbot can't resist announcing his support for Ron Paul- its usually a matter of personal pride - proof they are better and smarter.
Considering how long we've all been at this (forum/politics/debating), having a rank amateur parachute in here expecting that "loud" repetition serves as a good argument is .... funny.
Considering how long we've all been at this (forum/politics/debating), having a rank amateur parachute in here expecting that "loud" repetition serves as a good argument is .... funny.
I just wish they would be here long enough to slap around a little.
Certainly nothing to atone for Trap. Some of our most regular and valued members were invited in just such a manner. I'm not sure what this clown's game was, but I don't really care. I think Weisshaupt has it pegged pretty well. The guy wasn't engaging or defending anything - just dropping bombs. Even with attempts to engage him, and your mild admonition, he showed he was only interested in conflict for its own sake.
Thanks, I just wanted everyone who is interested to understand the likely reason that this buffoon ended up on our doorstep.
And with that I am bowing out of this thread for the time being.
I just wish they would be here long enough to slap around a little.
Me n Trap were kicking 'im around all day yesterday. Where were you?
::pokeineye:: ::stirpot::
I just wish they would be here long enough to slap around a little.
Me n Trap were kicking 'im around all day yesterday. Where were you?
::pokeineye:: ::stirpot::
I just wish they would be here long enough to slap around a little.
Me n Trap were kicking 'im around all day yesterday. Where were you?
::pokeineye:: ::stirpot::
I haven't stopped kicking him, actually.
And it seems that several people wish that he was still here to kick around in person. Maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on the moron. Maybe I should have held off on the ban hammer for a day or two. Too late now.
I just wish they would be here long enough to slap around a little.
Me n Trap were kicking 'im around all day yesterday. Where were you?
::pokeineye:: ::stirpot::
I haven't stopped kicking him, actually.
And it seems that several people wish that he was still here to kick around in person. Maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on the moron. Maybe I should have held off on the ban hammer for a day or two. Too late now.
LOL! Keep on eye on the guy's nic, everybody!
...And it seems that several people wish that he was still here to kick around in person. Maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on the moron. Maybe I should have held off on the ban hammer for a day or two. Too late now.
...And it seems that several people wish that he was still here to kick around in person. Maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on the moron. Maybe I should have held off on the ban hammer for a day or two. Too late now.
No, don't second guess. It was the right call.
I feel for John, we shoud reserve the next one for him. ;D
Boilerplate denial...yeah, that didn't fly when you were a youth, Trap, not flying now!
But damned funny if I may say so!
::thumbsup::
I think that dude might hang out with John Travolta in massage parlours!
::rolllaughing::
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/r/V/4/clinton-colombian-prostitutes.jpg)
It depends what your definition of "prostitute" is.
I would almost never abuse the admin functions for a cheap laugh at the expense of a moron.
Look at the pinhead-in-chiefs expression. That is awesome!!
I can't wait to see his expression once his butt hits the curb! The Wookie too!
::whoohoo::