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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 06:49:45 PM

Title: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Very, very nice. (http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/08/11604125-nbc-news-projects-lugar-defeated-in-indiana-primary?lite)

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NBC News has declared Richard Mourdock as the projected winner in the Indiana Senate primary. Mourdock defeated six-term Republican foreign policy elder statesman Sen. Richard Lugar.

Mourdock is backed by conservatives ranging from the National Rifle Association to local Tea Party activists to the Washington-based fiscal conservative group the Club for Growth.

With more than 20 percent of precincts reporting, Mourdock was winning 61 percent of the vote.
Looking toward the November election, National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman Sen. John Cornyn of Texas said two weeks ago that “it will probably make it more of a contest if Sen. Lugar is not the nominee, but I’m confident we’ll hold the seat.”

I suppose that Murkowski hag will be encouraging him to run third party or something.

Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 08, 2012, 07:00:39 PM

POS Cornyn sounds as if he's going to actually pass money on to a
conservative.  Oh, that's right, he's up for election in two years.
He may be a RINO but he's not that stupid.

Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 07:23:12 PM
Cornyn may be next. Two years is a long time. You just never know.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 08, 2012, 07:54:22 PM

We can hope.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: John Florida on May 08, 2012, 07:58:38 PM
::bustamove:: ::danceban:: ::newyear:: ::cool:: ::thumbsup:: ::rimshot:: ::whoohoo:: ::rolllaughing:: ::USA::
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 08:18:07 PM
Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, and Karl Rove begin to meltdown in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 08:47:04 PM
Please take note of the margin of victory. Just a few days ago Mourdock was polling at an (at the time) unbelievable 10% over Lugar.

Today it looks as if he will win with 60% of the vote for a 20% margin of victory. I would say that the Republican voters of Indiana decided to send a message. Just what that message is* will be argued over for the next day or so but I think that a case can be made that at least part of that message is a shot over the bow to the Romney campaign. Specifically, I think, that message might be something along the lines of, "Hey, lib boy...you had better tow that conservative line or else."

Coincidentally, the NC voters (all of them) voted in a very, very conservative ballot initiative with roughly the same margins. That is more than a little bit funny coming from the (apparently and suddenly) Democratic dysfunctional home to the DNC convention this fall. They may as well have picked Texas.

This may turn out to be a disappointing election season but so far it's looking pretty good and if nothing else it will be interesting. I think that the O'Bongo machine has maybe not as much magic as people are giving it credit for and the next few months could be illustrative of that. I sure hope so, anyway. It's been a while since we have seen a truly incompetent campaign from start to finish and I could use the laughs.

Oh, and next up is the Walker recall vote. Things will truly become unhinged in O'Bongoland if that vote goes for Walker. If it goes big (as in really big) for Walker then we might witness a real meltdown on the Democrat side. Think of it as the political equivalent of Haley's Comet. Once in a lifetime. One can dream.

*Admittedly, the easiest answer to the whole message thing is, "Hey, RINO-boy who doesn't even live here...you're 80 frickin' years old and have been in office longer than a lot of people have been alive. Time to retire your lead ass and let someone else have a turn at the controls."
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: AmericanPatriot on May 08, 2012, 09:06:21 PM
This is a time to rejoice.

Since becoming a pessimist, I'll wait to see if there are any real changes.

I feel like I've entered Dante's Inferno.
Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: John Florida on May 08, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, and Karl Rove begin to meltdown in 3...2...1...

 A message has been sent to the establisment that the TEA party is alive and well and both the establishment and Obama need to pay attention.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: EW1(SG) on May 08, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
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to local Tea Party activists

Huh.  I thought they were all supposed to be dead or sumpin'.







/Neener neener neener!   ::danceban::
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: warpmine on May 08, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
::bustamove:: ::danceban:: ::newyear:: ::cool:: ::thumbsup:: ::rimshot:: ::whoohoo:: ::rolllaughing:: ::USA::
I second that
::bustamove:: ::danceban:: ::newyear:: ::cool:: ::thumbsup:: ::rimshot:: ::whoohoo:: ::rolllaughing:: ::USA::
[/quote]
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 08, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
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to local Tea Party activists

Huh.  I thought they were all supposed to be dead or sumpin'.



Yeah, Rush was talking about this last week I think it was.  He said everyone thinks the Tea Party is over cuz they're not rallying much any more.  He said nope they've just shifted in to getting candidates elected.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Pandora on May 08, 2012, 10:28:08 PM
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to local Tea Party activists

Huh.  I thought they were all supposed to be dead or sumpin'.



Yeah, Rush was talking about this last week I think it was.  He said everyone thinks the Tea Party is over cuz they're not rallying much any more.  He said nope they've just shifted in to getting candidates elected.

That ^^.

We came, we rallied and solidified into driving more concrete results.

Neener, neener is right.  I hope.

LV, check your PMs, woman.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2012, 07:29:35 AM
Trap is right, this is a massive defeat for a longtime incumbent Senator...it sends the message that while the Tea Party may not be publically vocal right now, they are quite active in the political arena and this tells others who may be waffling to sing a new tune or get steamrolled.  And I think the message to Romney is obvious, but I guess we'll find out in the coming months if he is paying attention or if he has grown tone deaf and runs the moderate campaign I fear he'll run now that the nomination is all but wrapped up.

But knocking Lugar out is a fantastic start toward reinfusing conservatism into the GOP.

 ::thumbsup::

NEXT!!!
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: warpmine on May 09, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Had to post this from John Hayward who stated a great potential slogan for Obamakov:
Obama 2012: “It Is As It Was, Depending On What ‘Is’ Is.”

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51387 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51387)
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 09, 2012, 10:09:09 AM
Bet this has shaken Orrin Hatch a bit. He said this recently when he failed to get the GOP nomination and is being forced to a primary:

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This year’s race essentially began in 2010, when former Utah Sen. Bob Bennett was ousted by delegates fueled by tea party politics.
 
Hatch reportedly remarked: “These people are not conservatives. They’re not Republicans…They’re radical libertarians and I’m doggone offended by it.”
 
“I despise these people, and I’m not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth,” he continued.
 
Immediately recognizing the challenge he would likely face from such groups, Hatch launched one of the most well-organized and expensive campaigns in the state’s history. Since the beginning of 2011, he has spent more than $5 million – and he still has $3 million to spend on a primary.
 
Hatch has also shifted his rhetoric to the right over the past two years to address the claims that he was not conservative enough (probably not a good strategy to admit you “despise” your constituents).
link (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/orrin-hatch-forced-into-primary-fight-after-failing-to-secure-gop-nomination/)

Typical "you owe" me attitude.  The voters don't owe you squat.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Predator Don on May 09, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
Bye bye, asshat. You were the problem.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media)

A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

"This is not conducive to problem solving and governance," Lugar said. "And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 09, 2012, 10:41:45 AM

A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."


Hmmmm, turn about not fair play Mr. Lugar? You'd like to promote your foul orthodoxy.  The guy was trying to claim he's pro-life.


Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Glock32 on May 09, 2012, 10:43:59 AM
The (Sour) Grapes of Wrath
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
It takes class to go away quietly.

Dick has no class.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 09, 2012, 11:01:37 AM

"And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."

Violent threats from the death throes of moderation.

Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Predator Don on May 09, 2012, 11:56:46 AM
This is supposedly a problem within the republican party. I don't see it.

Maybe dems need to focus on their own electability issues....

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Obama_s.Opponents/?cid=hero_media (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Obama_s.Opponents/?cid=hero_media)
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Pandora on May 09, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Lugar hasn't even had a residence in Indiana for years.  How's that for chutzpah.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: warpmine on May 09, 2012, 03:03:47 PM
Bye bye, asshat. You were the problem.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media)

A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

"This is not conducive to problem solving and governance," Lugar said. "And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."

Some effing nerve! The SOB should look up the Federalist Papers and see what the framers had in mind. Dollars to doughnuts they didn't mean for Congress members to sit around smoking cigars discussing what types of legislation should be passed and they sure as hell weren't suppose to be there all year round nor were Senators supposed to be elected by anything other than the state legislatures they supposedly represent.

Rest assured the Founders didn't want new law to pass by easily which is probably why the 16th nor 17th Amendments legally passed. They were deemed to pass by Wilson's SoS.

List of Errors in Resolutions of State Legislatures

Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

    Page 26: "...the Executive branch* of the Government ruled that these errors were immaterial to the adoption of the amendment, it is clear that the procedure in which may be properly followed in proclaiming the adoption of the proposed amendment — that is to say, that the Secretary of State may disregard the errors contained in the certified copies of the Resolution of the Legislatures acting affirmatively on the proposed amendment." (Italics mine)

* No conflict of interest there!
http://thelawthatneverwas.com/seventeenth.aspx (http://thelawthatneverwas.com/seventeenth.aspx)

Visit the page and be flabbergasted as I am.  ::bashing::
 
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: John Florida on May 09, 2012, 03:53:25 PM
Bye bye, asshat. You were the problem.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120509/US.Lugar.Warning.Signs/?cid=hero_media)

A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

"This is not conducive to problem solving  and governance," Lugar said. "And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."



 I see it as problem solving and he was a problem.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Pandora on May 09, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
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A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

Damn right, as WE SEE IT!  We're doing our job because Lugar hasn't been doing his.  It's the Constitution, stoopit! 

Unbelievable!  Who in the hell does this guy, and Hatch, think they are?

/rhetorical
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 09, 2012, 04:42:30 PM

Pasty faced, massaged, botoxed, plucked, powdered
and pampered that's who they are.  Time to dip them
in preservative and file them away.

Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: John Florida on May 09, 2012, 06:39:01 PM
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A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

Damn right, as WE SEE IT!  We're doing our job because Lugar hasn't been doing his.  It's the Constitution, stoopit! 

Unbelievable!  Who in the hell does this guy, and Hatch, think they are?

/rhetorical


 Our betters of course.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: EW1(SG) on May 09, 2012, 06:44:17 PM
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A few hours after conceding, Lugar slammed Mourdock for embracing "groups whose prime mission is to cleanse the Republican Party of those who stray from orthodoxy as they see it."

Damn right, as WE SEE IT!  We're doing our job because Lugar hasn't been doing his.  It's the Constitution, stoopit! 

Unbelievable!  Who in the hell does this guy, and Hatch, think they are?

/rhetorical


 Our betters of course.

Ah, if we were Europeans, we would call them "aristocracy," or "nobility," or some such; which is the reason we left that sh*thole in the first place.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: John Florida on May 09, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
Count the Money vs. Count du Monét (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ6glHwV4I#ws)
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: trapeze on May 09, 2012, 08:07:16 PM

"And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."

Violent threats from the death throes of moderation.



Aggression from a moderate. It is not unlike Woody Allen cast as Freddy Krueger.

Unbelievable and yet funny.

Or unbelievably funny.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
I fully expect this asshat to give the people the finger and run as an Indy in the fall, you watch, he is showing all the signs of it so far.
Title: Re: Lugargeddon: Endangered RINO Bagged In Indiana
Post by: warpmine on May 09, 2012, 10:30:47 PM

"And he will find that unless he modifies his approach, he will achieve little as a legislator. Worse, he will help delay solutions that are totally beyond the capacity of partisan majorities to achieve."

Violent threats from the death throes of moderation.



Aggression from a moderate. It is not unlike Woody Allen cast as Freddy Krueger.

Unbelievable and yet funny.

Or unbelievably funny.
::hysterical::