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Topics => Faith & Family => Topic started by: LadyVirginia on September 05, 2012, 02:27:26 PM

Title: Growing up with two moms
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 05, 2012, 02:27:26 PM
So this was one of those weird times when I was searching for something else and this popped up in my search.  Thought it was interesting.

Growing Up With Two Moms: The Untold Children’s View (http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/growing-up-with-two-moms-the-untold-childrens-view)

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Quite simply, growing up with gay parents was very difficult, and not because of prejudice from neighbors. People in our community didn’t really know what was going on in the house. To most outside observers, I was a well-raised, high-achieving child, finishing high school with straight A’s.
 
Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.
 
My peers learned all the unwritten rules of decorum and body language in their homes; they understood what was appropriate to say in certain settings and what wasn’t; they learned both traditionally masculine and traditionally feminine social mechanisms.
 <snip>

When I got to college, I set off everyone’s “gaydar” and the campus LGBT group quickly descended upon me to tell me it was 100-percent certain I must be a homosexual. When I came out as bisexual, they told everyone I was lying and just wasn’t ready to come out of the closet as gay yet. Frightened and traumatized by my mother’s death, I dropped out of college in 1990 and fell in with what can only be called the gay underworld. Terrible things happened to me there.
 
It was not until I was twenty-eight that I suddenly found myself in a relationship with a woman, through coincidences that shocked everyone who knew me and surprised even myself. I call myself bisexual because it would take several novels to explain how I ended up “straight” after almost thirty years as a gay man. I don’t feel like dealing with gay activists skewering me the way they go on search-and-destroy missions against ex-gays, “closet cases,” or “homocons.”

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As a man, though I am bisexual, I do not get to throw away the mother of my child as if she is a used incubator. I had to help my wife through the difficulties of pregnancy and postpartum depression. When she is struggling with discrimination against mothers or women at a sexist workplace, I have to be patient and listen. I must attend to her sexual needs. Once I was a father, I put aside my own homosexual past and vowed never to divorce my wife or take up with another person, male or female, before I died. I chose that commitment in order to protect my children from dealing with harmful drama, even as they grow up to be adults. When you are a parent, ethical questions revolve around your children and you put away your self-interest . . . forever.

Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 05, 2012, 02:37:18 PM
He posted that piece on American Thinker too, some weeks ago.  I read it there.

It would be too much to hope for that the gay-invested Left take heed, because they won't and don't.

The man has had some unusual and unnecessary life-challenges and I wish him and his family well.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: benb61 on September 05, 2012, 06:09:33 PM

It would be too much to hope for that the gay-invested Left take heed, because they won't and don't.

Even if they did they would say "that is not the norm, he is just an isolated case and that is not how others who grew up in the same type of environment turned out".  Even though they have no proof of anything different.  Remember "Repeat the lie enough, and it becomes truth".
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 05, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
After all, what do "breeders" know about anything?
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 05, 2012, 06:31:40 PM

It would be too much to hope for that the gay-invested Left take heed, because they won't and don't.

Even if they did they would say "that is not the norm, he is just an isolated case and that is not how others who grew up in the same type of environment turned out".  Even though they have no proof of anything different.  Remember "Repeat the lie enough, and it becomes truth".

Precisely.  And because "the plural of anecdote is not data", except in sufficient plurality, it is.

No, they'd rather upset, upend, and destroy the entire culture in their grand experiment, but the terrible results will NEVER be examined, analyzed and a conclusion drawn, because that's the way they've rolled on all of their social engineering.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: benb61 on September 05, 2012, 07:19:26 PM
Gotta keep the "slaves" on the "plantation".  Can't be confusing them with facts, they too dumb to know anyhow.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 05, 2012, 07:45:08 PM
...

It would be too much to hope for that the gay-invested Left take heed, because they won't and don't.

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I don’t feel like dealing with gay activists skewering me the way they go on search-and-destroy missions against ex-gays, “closet cases,” or “homocons.”
They are viscous, as viscous as any union thug with a pipe.  Didn't Hitler have an army of these guys who did his bidding with zeal... right up until he had them slaughtered?[/blockquote]


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The man has had some unusual and unnecessary life-challenges and I wish him and his family well.
                   ::thumbsup::
                       

 
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 05, 2012, 07:45:40 PM
I think it was here, just a couple months ago, that we had a thread about a university study showing that children raised in traditional nuclear families fare better across the board than children raised by faggots and dykes, and the professor who commissioned the study was run out on a rail.

The radical homosexuals are all-in with their agenda. It's make-it or break-it time, and they damn well know it. They have to suppress any and all dissent, regardless of fact, or they know they will lose. The American people are squarely against them, an they know that as well. They need the benefit of squashing dissenting voices until a later date when they can legitimately claim to have majority support, which will be created over time by an absence of dissenting debate.

We need to crush them now.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 05, 2012, 07:48:53 PM
I think it was here, just a couple months ago, that we had a thread about a university study showing that children raised in traditional nuclear families fare better across the board than children raised by faggots and dykes, and the professor who commissioned the study was run out on a rail.

The radical homosexuals are all-in with their agenda. It's make-it or break-it time, and they damn well know it. They have to suppress any and all dissent, regardless of fact, or they know they will lose. The American people are squarely against them, an they know that as well. They need the benefit of squashing dissenting voices until a later date when they can legitimately claim to have majority support, which will be created over time by an absence of dissenting debate.

We need to crush them now.

YES!  And that means getting the kids away from them because their way to win is to indoctrinate the skulls full of mush.  That's exactly what they mean by "the inevitability" of gay "marriage".

"The Bird Cage" was *not* a documentary.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 06, 2012, 08:51:21 AM
I think it was here, just a couple months ago, that we had a thread about a university study showing that children raised in traditional nuclear families fare better across the board than children raised by faggots and dykes, and the professor who commissioned the study was run out on a rail.


Recent update:

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The University of Texas at Austin has cleared sociology professor Mark Regnerus of academic misconduct after he was excoriated by some in the media over a study showing that parents' homosexual relationships can have negative effects on children.
link (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/prof-who-did-gay-parenting-study-vindicated)
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 06, 2012, 10:03:04 AM
...that means getting the kids away from them because their way to win is to indoctrinate the skulls full of mush.  That's exactly what they mean by "the inevitability" of gay "marriage"...

On topic, my oldest son has been (just casually) seeing a girl for about a month, and he hasn't brought her home yet to meet us. I think I discovered why this morning.

I got on his computer and creeped on his Facebook page, and the girl's profile picture has her wearing a T-shirt that says something like "Don't limit marriage - Vote NO", presumably a shirt she probably got at the State Fair from the Homo-marriage booth, advocating voting against the state ballot initiative constitutional amendment.

I wouldn't want to bring her home either if I were him. She's a pretty girl, but I might have to encourage him to move along.

Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
...that means getting the kids away from them because their way to win is to indoctrinate the skulls full of mush.  That's exactly what they mean by "the inevitability" of gay "marriage"...

On topic, my oldest son has been (just casually) seeing a girl for about a month, and he hasn't brought her home yet to meet us. I think I discovered why this morning.

I got on his computer and creeped on his Facebook page, and the girl's profile picture has her wearing a T-shirt that says something like "Don't limit marriage - Vote NO", presumably a shirt she probably got at the State Fair from the Homo-marriage booth, advocating voting against the state ballot initiative constitutional amendment.

I wouldn't want to bring her home either if I were him. She's a pretty girl, but I might have to encourage him to move along.



Or he can wear the "I'm with stupid!" t-shirt, that may provide the necessary encouragement.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 06, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
Here's the original thread >>>

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6492.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6492.0.html)

I think it was here, just a couple months ago, that we had a thread about a university study showing that children raised in traditional nuclear families fare better across the board than children raised by faggots and dykes, and the professor who commissioned the study was run out on a rail.


Recent update:

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The University of Texas at Austin has cleared sociology professor Mark Regnerus of academic misconduct after he was excoriated by some in the media over a study showing that parents' homosexual relationships can have negative effects on children.
link (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/prof-who-did-gay-parenting-study-vindicated)

"After sequestering all of Regnerus's correspondence and conducting both written and oral interviews with him and his accuser, Scott Rosensweig, UT-Austin research integrity officer Robert Peterson wrote in an Aug. 24 memorandum to administrators, "None of the allegations of scientific misconduct put forth ... were substantiated either by physical data, written materials, or by information provided during the interviews.

"Since no evidence was provided to indicate that the behavior at issue rose to a level of scientific misconduct, no formal investigation is warranted," Peterson wrote.

Glenn Stanton, Focus on the Family's director of family formation studies, said Regnerus went to great lengths to make sure his study was well-designed and executed, including soliciting input from other sociologists with whom he has ideological differences.

"Basically," Stanton said of Rosensweig, "this guy was crying, 'Fire!' and they didn't even find any smoke."

Right.  And yet the two commenters at the piece are insisting Regnerus' "body of work has a consistent conservative focus", thus, a bias, but offering no proof.  As usual.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 06, 2012, 02:24:24 PM
Gaea forbid a university professor have a "consistent conservative focus". Ideology has no place on the university campus. Right Leftists? Right?

God, how I hate these people.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 06, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
I find it very interesting to look at the comments accompanying any given article.  It gives me some sort of handle on how many think like us ..... and how many don't.  But, the "don'ts" are often very scary.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 06, 2012, 02:44:51 PM

I wouldn't want to bring her home either if I were him. She's a pretty girl, but I might have to encourage him to move along.


My daughters have had to learn the hard way that dating someone who has complete opposite views often leads to heart ache.  Interestingly, they were the ones willing to respect their boyfirends' views.  The boyfriends weren't.  One eventually told one of my daughters she was dogmatic and closed-minded when he couldn't get her to change her mind.  This after she'd spent hours (over several months) listening to his reasons for his opinions.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 06, 2012, 02:50:10 PM

I wouldn't want to bring her home either if I were him. She's a pretty girl, but I might have to encourage him to move along.


My daughters have had to learn the hard way that dating someone who has complete opposite views often leads to heart ache.  Interestingly, they were the ones willing to respect their boyfirends' views.  The boyfriends weren't.  One eventually told one of my daughters she was dogmatic and closed-minded when he couldn't get her to change her mind.  This after she'd spent hours (over several months) listening to his reasons for his opinions.

LoL.  I've been accused of being something along the lines of "pitbull", i.e. "once you get something in your jaws, you just won't let go".  DOGmatic? 

I feel for the young today, trying to find decent mates.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Predator Don on September 06, 2012, 02:58:11 PM
I don't think I could live with someone with a differing political view......No, I know I couldn't.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: Pandora on September 06, 2012, 03:17:46 PM
I don't think I could live with someone with a differing political view......No, I know I couldn't.

Nope.  And he/she couldn't live with me.  Thank God Gunsmith and I "evolved" into radicals together.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 08, 2012, 10:28:28 PM

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=284344 (http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=284344)
Suicide rates high for Orthodox homosexual youths
Research shows 20% of LGBT sample attempted suicide, compared to 3.5% rate for general youth population.
Title: Re: Growing up with two moms
Post by: AlanS on September 09, 2012, 09:18:53 AM

I wouldn't want to bring her home either if I were him. She's a pretty girl, but I might have to encourage him to move along.


My daughters have had to learn the hard way that dating someone who has complete opposite views often leads to heart ache.  Interestingly, they were the ones willing to respect their boyfirends' views.  The boyfriends weren't.  One eventually told one of my daughters she was dogmatic and closed-minded when he couldn't get her to change her mind.  This after she'd spent hours (over several months) listening to his reasons for his opinions.

LoL.  I've been accused of being something along the lines of "pitbull", i.e. "once you get something in your jaws, you just won't let go".  DOGmatic? 

I feel for the young today, trying to find decent mates.

My wife managed to find a trophy. Well, at least a keeper.