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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on January 02, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
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Rumor is that John Boehner will resign tonight as Speaker of the House, as well he should. Explains the split vote between he and Cantor. Not enough GOP voted for the bill to give him a majority of the vote, which means he could lose if a serious challenger arises. Please God hear our prayers! It would sure make sense for him to resign. The question is, can we trust Cantor?
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Not in my opinion we can't. And we sure as sht can't trust Ryan any more either.
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It's too late.....
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Weisshaupt is right, it's time to just let this whole thing burn down. Let's rope-a-dope the Left. It'll play right into their natural and arrogant tendency to overreach. We need to give them the encouragement to make their move prematurely and overtly.
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Agreed. We must think like revolutionaries now and focus on the endgame, we need to be sappers and ready for the day when we can pounce for maximum effort.
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Weisshaupt is right but I'm invested and I want Boener&Co to suffer the same fate as those who were kicked off committees. Those who lost position because they were principled persons should also be redeemed.
If the nation goes down it is all the more important to know the principled from the unprincipled. []start separating the wheat from the chaff right now[]
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[]start separating the wheat from the chaff right now[]
It's really hard to separate sh1t from feces.
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Well, The Great Carrot was re-elected Speaker. Quelle surprise!
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The Stupid Party doubles down on stupid. Color me shocked.
::guillotine::
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There were a few GOP Congressmen who voted against him, but not enough. Shame on them all.
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/3/1357239385594/bff487a6-b178-4c49-9fc5-b5e2ba21a580-620.jpeg)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/01/03/who-voted-against-boehner-for-speaker-and-why/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/01/03/who-voted-against-boehner-for-speaker-and-why/)
For Allen West:
Rep. Louie Gohmert (Texas) votes for ex-Rep. Allen West, who now has 2 votes
Rep. Paul Broun (Ga) votes for outgoing Rep. Allen West (Fla) for Speaker.
Twelve Republicans voted against John Boehner...
For:
Rep. Raul Labrador (1)
Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) — libertarian ally of former congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex.), recently stripped of committee assignments by House GOP leadership
Amash (1)
Rep. Tom Massie (R-Ky.) — freshman conservative, favorite of the Club for Growth
Not voting (3)
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) — conservative, frequent critic of Boehner
Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) — critic of Boehner’s “Plan B” maneuver on the “fiscal cliff”
Boehner — speaker traditionally does not vote for himself or herself
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/03/john-boehner-speaker-republicans-congress-live (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/03/john-boehner-speaker-republicans-congress-live)
1h 55m ago
House Speaker vote: Boehner 220, Pelosi 192, Other 15
The cut-off was 217 and in the end John Boehner only got there thanks to some of the GOP headbangers and arch-conservatives, such as Michele Bachmann , who had earlier passed on voting and then switched to voting for Boehner.
2h 7m ago
John Boehner is re-elected as speaker
That's it, John Boehner has been re-elected as Speaker for the 113th Congress, a poisoned chalice if ever there was one. We already knew that the GOP caucus was divided. We now know that he nearly got forced to a second ballot, and that there is a small pool of haters in there.
There was another vote against Boehner, and he got to 216, meaning that the clerk returned to the members who hadn't voted, and Boehner got one of those – , from Marsha Blackburn – to get over the top to 217.
It was close and Boehner didn't avoid a second ballot by much. What would have happened then is anyone's guess, but the vote showed that more than a few of Boehner's critics are all mouth and no trousers.
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Over and over and over; the same thing keeps happening. A chance for something better, only to amount to naught in the end.
It's starting to feel to me as though we're being punished the way we're given something for which to hope and then to see those hopes dashed as the bad continues to win out.
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Anybody know if he cried?
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Anybody know if he cried?
Yes, I do and he did.
BTW, Obviously I am not a prophet, because I sure thought he was done for and I was wrong....again.
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He is done for. It just isn't going to happen until next year, in a historical House defeat for Republicans.
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He is done for. It just isn't going to happen until next year, in a historical House defeat for Republicans.
Yup. It will be hailed as the affirmation of Leftist politics, when in fact, it is hopelessness that the GOP will ever mount an effective resistance to Leftism or champion conservative principles.
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He was re-elected last time and considering how the majority perceives politics in this country and his state there is no reason, other than a conservative's desire, to think he will not be re-elected again. Sorry, Hawk.
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Like a dog eating its own vomit.....
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He is done for. It just isn't going to happen until next year, in a historical House defeat for Republicans.
Yup. It will be hailed as the affirmation of Leftist politics, when in fact, it is hopelessness that the GOP will ever mount an effective resistance to Leftism or champion conservative principles.
Yupyup, and goldammy these damn people who keep drawing precisely the WRONG lessons from events.
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[]start separating the wheat from the chaff right now[]
It's really hard to separate sh1t from feces.
Apparently the GOP caucus really can't tell either...not that it matters...
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He is done for. It just isn't going to happen until next year, in a historical House defeat for Republicans.
Yup. It will be hailed as the affirmation of Leftist politics, when in fact, it is hopelessness that the GOP will ever mount an effective resistance to Leftism or champion conservative principles.
Yupyup, and goldammy these damn people who keep drawing precisely the WRONG lessons from events.
The E-GOP will blame the hot-headed extremist conservatives and Tea Party crowd for poisoning the political discourse and making compromise and effective governance difficult in these challenging times that demand calm cool leadership and members who repesent the diversity of America and...
::puke::
OK, enough of that channelling idiotic bed-wetting Pubbie crap!
GOP is six feet under already, they're just too damned stupid to realize it much less the real reason why...fvck 'em!
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He was re-elected last time and considering how the majority perceives politics in this country and his state there is no reason, other than a conservative's desire, to think he will not be re-elected again. Sorry, Hawk.
He might be in 2014. Just Minority Leader, not Speaker
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If you believe that the trajectory of this country has been guided by Providence, perhaps there is a reason none of our efforts at achieving partial victory through these spineless political whores have worked. Perhaps we are meant to achieve more meaningful victories by other means, and that is why we must be frustrated again and again by the political process. It's to drive the point home.
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A comment at American Thinker:
" JohnMG
While I am disgusted with Boehner's 'performance', yours is the first mention that I can recall here of the potential of a "Speaker Pelosi" becoming a reality if an overthrow attempt were to take place. This was my fear as well.
Certainly the media was remaining mum in the hope that political in-fighting among the Republicans would yield that result.....another example of their complicity with the Democrats.
Was there time for a unified effort at changing the speakership? I sincerely doubt it. That type of maneuvering takes time and under the current rules, secerecy, in order to avoid handing control of the House back to the wicked witch of the West. If you think the Obama cabal is gloating now, imagine if that fate were to befall the country.
No, we're stuck with Boehner for the present, unless a determined faction of Republicans coalesce around another member, and then take Boehner to the woodshed and convince him to resign. Ain't gonna happen!"
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/boehner_re-elected_speaker_comments.html#comment-755637401#ixzz2H1iFnWGb (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/boehner_re-elected_speaker_comments.html#comment-755637401#ixzz2H1iFnWGb)
I feel very ignorant in that I do not know if this was a real possibility or not. Could Pelosi have been elected Speaker of the House, even as a member of the minority party there?
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I'm with you Pan. I don't know the answer. I guess a bit of research is in order as to the process for electing a Speaker.
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::speechless:: These people truely are dumber than a box of rocks! ::unknowncomic::
Even if Boehner received no votes, and the pubbies all voted for themselves and Pelosi received all 193 proglodyte votes, she is not Speaker, whoever is elected Speaker (and it doesn't have to be a sitting member!) must receive majority vote of the full house, that is 218 votes!
::facepalm:: ::mooning:: ::asskicking::
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I'm with you Pan. I don't know the answer. I guess a bit of research is in order as to the process for electing a Speaker.
Former Rep. West received valid votes for Speaker. From what I've read, you do not have to be in the House to be elected Speaker. So Nanzi Pelousy had a good shot at the Speakership, considering how fukced up the PubicHairs are.
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Libertas is right. The Speaker must receive a majority. A plurality isn't enough. So Pelosi would not have become Speaker unless a bunch of Republicans voted for her.
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At least she was a lot more effective in her agenda than what Boehner is in what his should be
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At least she was a lot more effective in her agenda than what Boehner is in what his should be
Man, you can say that again.
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Liberals are always more effective because they are unembarrassed to pursue their agenda every hour of every day. Look at Obamacare. Lots of them knew they would probably lose their seats in the immediate backlash, but they held to the party line in order to get it passed because they knew government medicine will become the centerpiece of permanent socialism.
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Embarrassed? No, they are minion!
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/272823/slide_272823_1943064_free.jpg)
Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-CT., at Nancy Pelosi's Democratic women of the House to highlight the historic diversity of the House Democratic Caucus.
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Diversity: It's what makes us strong.
Jiminy frikkin Christmas.
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That thing has to have a nozzle, but to hell with verifying it! ::exitstageleft::
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Joke all you want about that, uh, woman but she votes on bills that turn into laws that affect you.
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Yeah, she nozzles boehner.
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Stylin' and profilin' on the Hill.
She does scream diversity, though.
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::speechless:: These people truely are dumber than a box of rocks! ::unknowncomic::
Even if Boehner received no votes, and the pubbies all voted for themselves and Pelosi received all 193 proglodyte votes, she is not Speaker, whoever is elected Speaker (and it doesn't have to be a sitting member!) must receive majority vote of the full house, that is 218 votes!
::facepalm:: ::mooning:: ::asskicking::
Glock is right about Libertas being right!
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Diversity? She's an old White hatchet-faced broad of Italian descent, married to a Jew, who, no doubt, lives safely beyond the "vibrant multiculti/diversity" she prescribes for the rest of us. And "is a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus", in other words, another commie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_DeLauro
::spit::
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In more direct words...a TRAITOR!
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I've never seen anything that ugly in my life.
And her outfit isn't any better.
What the hell's the matter with the Connecticutians?
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As Rush says, "the Star Wars bar scene".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qd198SFwo
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Diversity? She's an old White hatchet-faced broad of Italian descent, married to a Jew, who, no doubt, lives safely beyond the "vibrant multiculti/diversity" she prescribes for the rest of us. And "is a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus", in other words, another commie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_DeLauro
::spit::
Somebody married her???? ::barf:: ::bigpuke:: ::kiss-my-ass:: ::ohno::
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'Somebody married her???? ::barf:: ::bigpuke:: ::kiss-my-ass:: ::ohno::
Communists don't marry for love, Comrade.
ETA: Just look at the Owebamas' marriage.