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Title: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 30, 2013, 11:11:06 PM
 ::danceban::

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“They’ve lost their minds,” Reid said of Republicans, in rejecting the latest proposal.

“Senate Democrats have made it perfectly clear that they’d rather shut down the federal government than accept even the most reasonable changes to ObamaCare,” Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell countered.
link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/30/budget-showdown-test-wills-as-shutdown-deadline-comes-into-view/)

My daughter will go into work and close everything down and then come home.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 06:21:30 AM
They actually did it?  I'm gabberflasted.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 07:20:41 AM
rayra's 'government shutdown' banner over at GCP.

(http://www.grouchyconservativepundits.org/frontpage/mainbanner.jpg)

Post it on y'all's Facebook (or whatever) with rayra's blessings.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 01, 2013, 07:22:16 AM
Amazingly enough, my life went on this morning, like any other.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2013, 07:30:50 AM
I love the smell of government shutdown in the morning!!!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/busey_clapping.gif)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/ace_ventura.gif)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/5UrwzgdtHioxfo0voMzOgXjEo1_500.jpg)

Now, if we can only keep it going the rest of the month!  Just blow by the debt ceiling (cough!) "deadline", make these damned Dem's compromise for once!

Not gonna hold my breath...these are feckless Pubbies after all, but I'll enjoy the shutdown while it lasts...
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: AlanS on October 01, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
Amazingly enough, my life went on this morning, like any other.

Mine, too. I was shocked. Well, almost shocked.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: radioman on October 01, 2013, 08:35:39 AM
Too bad we can't balance the budget with the shutdown!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 01, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
They actually did it?  I'm gabberflasted.

Nothing makes the EBT laden so angry as a shutdown.
May it never reopen.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 10:05:20 AM
Their anger jubilates me and warms me cockles.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 01, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
This was, of course, engineered by the Leftists. It will be interesting to see over the coming days, just how in the tank the media will be for this regime.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 01, 2013, 10:33:03 AM
Shat down the government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdTEjx5Ntw#)

The shat done hit the fan.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 01, 2013, 11:33:40 AM
I love this kind of sh*t. And apparently, Representative Steve King (not to be confused with pukehead Peter King) distracted capitol police, so that citizens could storm the barricades, and occupy the Memorial.

Citizens Reject Shutdown Theater (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343817.php)

Shutdown theater is Obama's penchant for making shutdowns worse than they need to be.

For example, the Capitol Police doing more work than needed to erect barriers to entry to the WWII memorial in the Mall. No one "works" here; there are no Park Rangers. It's a friggin' monument. And it is policed by the Capitol Park Police, who are, of course, still on the job.

Nevertheless, Obama is doing Shutdown Theater so he had his Imperial Troops erect barriers to keep people from seeing it.

Some visiting veterans rejected the Shutdown Theater.

(photos @ AoSHQ)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 01, 2013, 11:35:20 AM
Update: The Vets have control of the Memorial (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343821.php)

(More photos @ AoSHQ)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2013, 11:38:04 AM
That's a lot of shat...
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 01, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Excellent!

These are Honor Flight vets. They fought the enemy in WWII they can handle a bunch of stupid bureaucrats.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
Good on and God Bless 'em.

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Leo Shane III @LeoShane

No attempt to stop any WWII visitors right now. Maybe after the congressmen leave ... #shutdown
12:10 PM - 1 Oct 2013

Word.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 01, 2013, 11:56:52 AM
from @LeoShane:
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Official word from Park Police on the WWII memorial: "We're seeking guidance on how to respond." No effort to block any vets

added:

Congressional security also with vets.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
Punk ass Regime manufactured BS!

Resist we Much!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
More shutdown theater .... (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/shutdown-theatre/)

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2013/10/Capture-300x258.jpg)

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Any other day, these five parking places pictured below are available for use on the George Washington Parkway near Washington D.C.  The GW Parkway is a national park.  There is no fee to park in them.  There are no National Park Service employees who do anything at all with them.  But not today.  Shutdown Theatre is playing nationwide, and the barricades are props.

Today the barricades went up.  Unlike any other day, today National Park Service employees had to go to these parking places and erect barricades.  More time, energy and money was spent erecting barricades to create phony drama surrounding the shutdown than is spent on a normal day.  Without such theatre, most Americans might not even notice that the federal government has shut down.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2013, 02:17:42 PM
I would enjoy knocking them over...then lurk nearby and see who comes out to replace them...and then knock 'em over again!   ::evilbat::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 01, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
This shutdown crap isn't Kabuki Theater, it's Noh Theater, starring Owebama's huge narcissistic ego.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Okay, now laughably ridiculous .......

"Will the government shutdown parade of horribles never end?"

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FLOTUS        ? @FLOTUS
Due to Congress’s failure to pass legislation to fund the government, updates to this account will be limited. #Shutdown
12:55 PM - 1 Oct 2013
832 Retweets 210 favorites

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
Okay, now laughably ridiculous .......

"Will the government shutdown parade of horribles never end?"

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FLOTUS        ? @FLOTUS
Due to Congress’s failure to pass legislation to fund the government, updates to this account will be limited. #Shutdown
12:55 PM - 1 Oct 2013
832 Retweets 210 favorites

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 01, 2013, 03:16:19 PM
I don't know what I'll do without Twitter updates from the Gigantic First Transsexual.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 01, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
I think she could forgo one day's new designer outfits, to pay that twitters bill.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 01, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
Oh Noes Obama can't get in to do his "job"

(http://isthegovernmentopen.com/images/obama.gif)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 01, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
Okay, now laughably ridiculous .......

"Will the government shutdown parade of horribles never end?"

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FLOTUS        ? @FLOTUS
Due to Congress’s failure to pass legislation to fund the government, updates to this account will be limited. #Shutdown
12:55 PM - 1 Oct 2013
832 Retweets 210 favorites

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/flotus-tweets-shutdown-will-shut-down-her-twitter-feed/)
Her Highness can't be expected to update her own twitter feed with bullying threats about our diet, now can she?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 01, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
Exactly what is shut down? Besides my daughter and the parks?

My daughter is a civilian employee for the DOD so she isn't working.  But her friend who is a FEMA lawyer is considered essential so she's working.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Magnum on October 01, 2013, 05:07:11 PM
I pray the house doesn't yield to the pressure. And stays shutdown without apology.

More and more is getting out on how much obamacare will actually cost. Just look at THIS (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/01/affordable-care-not-so-affordable-or-adorable/) (and the comments) as one small example as to the potential cost.

"The silver plan also includes a 30% co-pay on most procedures! The cap on that for a family of 4 is $12,500. Therefore, Amy is set up to pay $24,464 before full coverage kicks in. In other words, she will be paying $24,464 for the equivalent of a catastrophic plan.

But it gets better. Under the CA Covered (CACA) silver plan, you will not be covered if you go to Stanford Medical Center or UCLA Medical Center."

(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t1949.gif)(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t1943.gif)(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/mad-smiley-bending-rod.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)



Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 01, 2013, 05:52:26 PM
Exactly what is shut down?

Not Owebama's mouth, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 02, 2013, 01:31:58 AM
Good on and God Bless 'em.

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Leo Shane III @LeoShane

No attempt to stop any WWII visitors right now. Maybe after the congressmen leave ... #shutdown
12:10 PM - 1 Oct 2013

Word.



Well considering these fascist pigs have made a habit lately of killing 90 year old men with tazers and beanbag rounds, they just might like to do some "Show of Force" exercises against these veterans. 'Cause you know how 90 year olds with walkers need to be thrown to the ground and "proned out", to use the parlance of these stormtroopers.

Bunch of roid-raging meathead fascist scumbags.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 07:30:27 AM
Good on and God Bless 'em.

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Leo Shane III @LeoShane

No attempt to stop any WWII visitors right now. Maybe after the congressmen leave ... #shutdown
12:10 PM - 1 Oct 2013

Word.



Well considering these fascist pigs have made a habit lately of killing 90 year old men with tazers and beanbag rounds, they just might like to do some "Show of Force" exercises against these veterans. 'Cause you know how 90 year olds with walkers need to be thrown to the ground and "proned out", to use the parlance of these stormtroopers.

Bunch of roid-raging meathead fascist scumbags.

More coming to face down Obama's Shutdown Goons!

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=953619 (http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=953619)

These are proven ass-kickers and life-takers who are unaffraid of Obama's punks!  And, remember that saying about "old men", that applies for these guys magnified several orders!

"When he asked for her name, he says she did not give it to him and then promptly hung up the phone."

Reading between the lines I'd say that's a 90+ year old WWII vet on his way and God help the sorry bastard who gets in his way!

Go to your Memorial gentlemen, it's yours!   ::victory::

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 07:35:57 AM
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Kyle Becker · Top Commenter
Do the American people own their own memorials or does the government? That's the fundamental point that needs to be hammered like crazy here. The government claims the right to keep the memorials from the people. But then they're not really the people's memorials, are they?

This ^^.

We're getting a really good demonstration of whose property the Feds believe these are .....
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 07:47:36 AM
The United States of America (1787-2013) came to a swift and sudden end last night as the government shut down. (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/10/government-shuts-down-nation-descends.html)

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The nation which had survived Pearl Harbor, the War of 1812 and Jimmy Carter ceased to exist. The victims were many. In Chuckolod County, Colorado, a transgender person was denied access to the Ladies Room. Frantic calls to the Justice Department were forwarded to an answering service in Depar, India, instead of Doneparre City, Indiana. In Brooklyn, New York, an overweight Senegalese woman was unable to obtain a sign language interpreter while waiting on line to collect her free Obamaphone. In Olegon Falls, Florida, the National Museum of Native American Yarn was forced to shut down depriving schoolchildren of an educational experience and three hours throwing bits of yarn at each other. - - Sultan Knish

H/T American Digest.org
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 07:53:43 AM
I'm with ya, Mag's!  But, history as a guide makes me nervous, so far though...

http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/218/democrats-turn-back-gops-piecemeal-funding-strategy/ (http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/218/democrats-turn-back-gops-piecemeal-funding-strategy/)

Dem's keep saying no.  The House needs to keep firing things over, even if they know they will get shot down, eventually you would think even the most dense low-info dumbass will hear the Senate Dem's saying "no" enough times and Stymie saying "no" enough times that the real obstructionists to their free shyt is Dem's.  Not holding any hope on that, but, it is what it is.

John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/01/boehner-shutdown-obama-compromise-column/2903505/)

The proof is in the doing, not the saying, Oh Great and Powerful Weeping Carrot, vigilence or cowardice, which will prevail?

Oh, and speaking of typical gutless cowards...lookie here - 12 House Pubbies Say They'd Back A CR Stripped Of Any ObamaCare Provisions (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/01/8-house-republicans-now-say-theyd-back-a-clean-cr/) - and you just knew that asshat Peter King was in this group, now didn't ya?!

The Great Weeping Carrot's first challenge...telling these idiots to STFD & STFU!

Good luck with that...
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 07:56:14 AM
The United States of America (1787-2013) came to a swift and sudden end last night as the government shut down. (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/10/government-shuts-down-nation-descends.html)

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The nation which had survived Pearl Harbor, the War of 1812 and Jimmy Carter ceased to exist. The victims were many. In Chuckolod County, Colorado, a transgender person was denied access to the Ladies Room. Frantic calls to the Justice Department were forwarded to an answering service in Depar, India, instead of Doneparre City, Indiana. In Brooklyn, New York, an overweight Senegalese woman was unable to obtain a sign language interpreter while waiting on line to collect her free Obamaphone. In Olegon Falls, Florida, the National Museum of Native American Yarn was forced to shut down depriving schoolchildren of an educational experience and three hours throwing bits of yarn at each other. - - Sultan Knish

H/T American Digest.org

Heh, good stuff!  Nice pics too.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 08:37:39 AM
You've probably seen this elsewhere, but it bears adding to the record here.

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Obama Administration Specifically Denied Exception to Permit Veterans to Attend WWII Memorial (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343838.php)

Before we go any further, let us note once again how contrived it is to shut down entryways to a wide open space out in the middle of a park.

This is not a building, like a museum, that has doors and staffers and guides. This is f**king scenery.

And yet the erected artificial barriers to block people from walking through outdoor scenery.

Voila! Now we can pretend a memorial standing unsupervised out in the open is a "National Park" or "Open Air Museum" and close it to pedestrian traffic (and people can in fact just walk through this thing in their normal transversing of the city).

Now, that out of the way: They then took the next step.

When they were informed that the Honor Flight was on the way, and that they should make one exception for the veterans of WWII and open up the artificial barriers they had erected to make a political point, they refused...

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Palazzo, a Gulf War Marine veteran who has participated in all five of the Honor Flights, blames the White House for making it harder on veterans and playing politics. “At first I thought it was a huge bureaucratic oversight,” Palazzo told The Daily Caller, “but having talked with the officials I can’t help but think this was politically motivated. Honor Flights, which bring WWII veterans to the nation’s memorials, are planned a year in advance and cost anywhere between $80,000 to $100,000. How low can you get with playing politics over our nation’s veterans?”

In a statement, Palazzo noted that he is introducing legislation to ensure that all Honor Flights are granted access this week. “This is an open-air memorial that the public has 24/7 access to under normal circumstances — even when Park Service personnel aren’t present,” Palazzo said in the statement. “It actually requires more effort and expense to shut out these veterans from their Memorial than it would to simply let them through. My office has been in touch with NPS officials and the Administration to try to resolve this issue.”


There are no "schedule hours" for scenery. The monument does not close on weekends, or at night.

Because it's scenery.

It is a feature of the landscape.

And yet these See You Next Tuesdays attempted to create a fake "entryway" into a landscape feature so they could block it off and say "the Building is closed."

And then they doubled down.

More @ AoSHQ
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 08:51:45 AM
Apparently today (Wednesday 10/2/13), Park "officials" are using heavy equipment to bring in heavy barricades and have "yellow-taped" around the WWII memorial.

Picture (https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/385394308980830208)

Motherf**kers.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 02, 2013, 09:22:39 AM
We've never had a more cynically spiteful president than our current one.  This closing of memorials that are public scenery is him having a temper tantrum at being told 'no' by some Republicans.  Even Carter, for all the misery he's engendered, never did shyt like this.

As I said elsewhere, the Pubbies have a winning hand with this 'shutdown' if they knew how to play their cards right, hell, if they even knew what game they were playing.  But they don't.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
As I said elsewhere, the Pubbies have a winning hand with this 'shutdown' if they knew how to play their cards right, hell, if they even knew what game they were playing.  But they don't.

At this point, I'm not convinced they would want to win, even if they knew how.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 02, 2013, 10:04:13 AM
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With the fall of the government, citizen activists took it upon themselves to chronicle the culture of lawlessness. Men played Gibson guitars made of wood imported from India, but not finished by Indian workers. Women bought cold medicine without a photo ID. Children went hours without hearing lectures about the environment.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 02, 2013, 10:59:19 AM
Obama's America, summed up in one photo (https://twitter.com/morgenr/status/385244217011761152/photo/1)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
We've never had a more cynically spiteful president than our current one.  This closing of memorials that are public scenery is him having a temper tantrum at being told 'no' by some Republicans.  Even Carter, for all the misery he's engendered, never did shyt like this.

As I said elsewhere, the Pubbies have a winning hand with this 'shutdown' if they knew how to play their cards right, hell, if they even knew what game they were playing.  But they don't.

That's what it is, making a show of "shutting down" an open-air memorial, pure-D spite; not just toward the Vets -- at all of us.

The Pubbies?  Winning hand?  Did you not get the significance of Boehner's office staff and Reid's double dealing behind the scenes while posing as enemies/opponents for public consumption?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9013.msg107897#msg107897 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=9013.msg107897#msg107897)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 11:22:53 AM
Yup.

Traitors within and within within.

 ::gaah::

ETA - Harry Reid blames Republicans of course for shutdown and Vet's being blocked, and that is what the MFM will parrot...but they are all wrong -

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/obama-admin-knew-about-wwii-veterans-request-and-rejected-it/ (http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/obama-admin-knew-about-wwii-veterans-request-and-rejected-it/)

More Fedcoats blocking off people from their memorials...

(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-10-02-at-6.43.26-AM-550x375.png)

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/wwii-veterans-plan-to-storm-lincoln-memorial-today-closed-due-to-obama-admin-pettiness/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/wwii-veterans-plan-to-storm-lincoln-memorial-today-closed-due-to-obama-admin-pettiness/)

Thugs!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 11:30:49 AM
Obama's America, summed up in one photo (https://twitter.com/morgenr/status/385244217011761152/photo/1)

Yeah...how's that retarded flirtation with democracy working out for asshats?  Government (Obama) has the power, not you stinking peasants!

Now, go away and watch Amerikan Idle, peon!!!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 12:20:47 PM
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Two Freedom Flights of veterans, one from Iowa and another from Mississippi, arrived in D.C. today to visit their war memorials, but were halted by barricades. Many of the veterans served in World War II and in Korea. As Bryan Preston noted in an earlier post, several House GOP members intervened to make sure those vets could visit the World War II Memorial.

I happened to be driving by, and received a phone call from a congressional staffer telling me what was going on. I caught some of the scene on video just as several busloads of Freedom Flight vets were about to leave.

In this first video, Rep. Michele Bachmann (MN-6) describes the sequence of events leading to the members of Congress intervening:

... Here, Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-1) explains why he and his colleagues crashed the Park Service barricades:

... Needless to say, the Park Service was not happy. This spokeswoman, who didn’t explain why she hadn’t been furloughed, tried her best to castigate the members of Congress without appearing cold-hearted:

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2013/10/IMG_5772-1024x682.jpg)

She explained that any enforcement action taken against the congressmen will have to be decided by her political-appointee bosses.

NextGenerationTV’s Michelle Fields tweets that Park Police have shown up on the scene to expel any remaining vets.

Enforcement action?

Assholes block off a space normally wide open 24/7, requiring money be spent, and this nazi is talking about "enforcement action" against the congressmen?

Oh, and check out the black band across her badge; what do think that's covering?

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/exclusive-video-house-gop-members-crash-national-park-service-barricade-for-ww2-vets/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/01/exclusive-video-house-gop-members-crash-national-park-service-barricade-for-ww2-vets/)

Breitbart has the video of her here:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/02/Obama-Administration-Decided-to-Block-Access-to-Memorials (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/02/Obama-Administration-Decided-to-Block-Access-to-Memorials)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
So are the Vets in or out? I keep reading about the regime redoubling its efforts to keep them out, and then people ignoring the barricades.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 12:30:55 PM
Not sure.

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NextGenerationTV’s Michelle Fields tweets that Park Police have shown up on the scene to expel any remaining vets.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
3 hours ago via twitter @leoshane
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New Park Service Statement: "All Honor Flights are being granted access to the #WWIIMemorial to conduct 1st Amendment activities

not letting anyone else conduct first amendment activities
and no word as to whether this "rule" applies to other monuments

http://www.stripes.com/news/park-service-honor-flight-visits-are-a-first-amendment-activity-1.244676 (http://www.stripes.com/news/park-service-honor-flight-visits-are-a-first-amendment-activity-1.244676) picture at link of sign

Dozens of reporters, crowds singing to and clapping for vets
pictures via Leo Shane:

(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x331/LadyVirginiaUSA/honorflight_zps9b13ba1c.jpg) (http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/LadyVirginiaUSA/media/honorflight_zps9b13ba1c.jpg.html)

(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x331/LadyVirginiaUSA/honorflight2_zps2213fd6a.jpg) (http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/LadyVirginiaUSA/media/honorflight2_zps2213fd6a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Eupher on October 02, 2013, 01:47:13 PM
This shutdown crap isn't Kabuki Theater, it's Noh Theater, starring Owebama's huge narcissistic ego.


^^^This.


Barry is all about creating drama where there is none. It's all part of blaming everybody on the planet but himself. Azzwipe.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 02:23:44 PM
Yesterday, the Claude Moore Colonial Farm was ordered closed by the Obama Administration’s National Park Service as a result of the government shutdown. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/shutdown-bullies-obama-admin-closes-privately-funded-park/)

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There’s only one problem: the Claude Moore Colonial Farm isn’t supported by taxes. It’s privately funded and is staffed by volunteers ...

. The Washington Free Beacon reports:

    According to Anna Eberly, managing director of the farm, NPS sent law enforcement agents to the park on Tuesday evening to remove staff and volunteers from the property.

    “You do have to wonder about the wisdom of an organization that would use staff they don’t have the money to pay to evict visitors from a park site that operates without costing them any money,” she said.

    The park withstood prior government shutdowns, noting in a news release that the farm will be closed to the public for the first time in 40 years.

    “In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm,” Eberly explained in an emailed statement.

    “In all the years I have worked with the National Park Service … I have never worked with a more arrogant, arbitrary and vindictive group representing the NPS,” Eberly said . . .

 Arrogant. Arbitrary. Vindictive.

And --

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/shutdown-national-park-service-closes-self-sustaining-colonial-farm-it-hasnt-supported-since-1980/?singlepage=true (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/shutdown-national-park-service-closes-self-sustaining-colonial-farm-it-hasnt-supported-since-1980/?singlepage=true)
 
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 02:30:43 PM
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Stephen Hayes        ? @stephenfhayes

At the WWII Memorial, Carol Johnson w/the Park Service says they were told to close the site by White House's Office of Management & Budget.
10:44 AM - 2 Oct 2013

"The OMB, or Office of Management and Budget is part of the executive branch and reports directly to President Obama."

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/02/barry-cades-confirmed-park-service-says-obama-admin-ordered-closure-of-world-war-ii-memorial/ (http://twitchy.com/2013/10/02/barry-cades-confirmed-park-service-says-obama-admin-ordered-closure-of-world-war-ii-memorial/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 02:39:32 PM

Representative Michele Bachmann taunted by DC resident at National WWII Memorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jG-Gix38g#)

also via @leoshane 8 min ago:
Quote
Park Police news only pertained to the Honor Flights. Any group (less than 25) has the right to peaceably assemble.

Wish I could get to DC!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 02:42:59 PM
shut down=show down

if not now, when?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
Now, dammit.

WAR.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Me too.

But I'd end up arrested .... for being lippy.  Or something. ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: pisskop on October 02, 2013, 02:58:01 PM
 ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA:: ::USA::

I'm waiting for Obama to put a tarp over the Washington Monument and blame the Repubs.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 02:59:09 PM
Me too.

But I'd end up arrested .... for being lippy.  Or something. ::saywhat::

I just went to the Natl parks website and they've shut that down (ah, the servers keep working without the government, duh) because of the "shut down" so I couldn't search for natl parks in my state.  I don't know where they are in my state but no doubt some of these parks are natl

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 03:04:30 PM
There's been some preliminary whining in the local paper about whether "this will affect us in NC" as far as national whatevers.

And I'm thinking, GOOD!  I hope it DOES!  Maybe asswipes everywhere will get to rethinking the wisdom of the Feds having their weinies in all soups.

Reading more and more of this BS today has left me rip yer face off growly.  Can ya tell?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 03:05:57 PM

Reading more and more of this BS today has left me rip yer face off growly.  Can ya tell?

You? nooooooooo

 ;D
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: pisskop on October 02, 2013, 03:20:25 PM
More Good news, and delivered to me from our good friends @
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/10/02/2721401/rnc-exploits-shutdown/ (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/10/02/2721401/rnc-exploits-shutdown/)

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The Republican National Committee plans to score political points by funding the World War II memorial in Washington, DC in order to keep it open during the government shutdown. The move is a reaction to WWII veterans forcing open the memorial on the first day of the shutdown.

Wednesday afternoon, Preibus announced the RNC will fund the WWII memorial for the next 30 days. He blamed the Obama administration for making the shutdown as painful as possible. A protester reportedly interrupted Preibus, saying “Go do your job, idiot!”

Good on you.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 03:23:11 PM
ok

time for others to take a stand and do something other than talk
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 03:56:41 PM
Government watchdog Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to get to the bottom of the National Park Service’s actions at the World War II Memorial in Washington this week. (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/exclusive-judicial-watch-files-foia-for-information-related-to-closing-of-wwii-memorial/)

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The NPS has barricaded the memorial and on Tuesday tried to prevent veterans from visiting the memorial, which has no amenities and is normally open to the public at all times.

The National Park service has closed facilities that are either unmanned or take no federal funding, and says that the Obama administration ordered the shutdown. Anna Eberly, managing director of the Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia, told Tatler that the NPS is renting the barricades that it is using to enforce the closures, an increase in the service’s operating costs at a time that the government is partially shut down.

I'm really close to wanting somebody made ... inert.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 05:01:57 PM
Government watchdog Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to get to the bottom of the National Park Service’s actions at the World War II Memorial in Washington this week. (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/exclusive-judicial-watch-files-foia-for-information-related-to-closing-of-wwii-memorial/)

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The NPS has barricaded the memorial and on Tuesday tried to prevent veterans from visiting the memorial, which has no amenities and is normally open to the public at all times.

The National Park service has closed facilities that are either unmanned or take no federal funding, and says that the Obama administration ordered the shutdown. Anna Eberly, managing director of the Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia, told Tatler that the NPS is renting the barricades that it is using to enforce the closures, an increase in the service’s operating costs at a time that the government is partially shut down.

I'm really close to wanting somebody made ... inert.

I know, me too. I'm not close, I'm there. I want someone to pay dearly for this, and for the mindset that spawned it.

The reason this is evoking such a visceral reaction is because it is so obviously inexplicable outside of pure vindictive spite. They know going after 90 year old WWII vets will outrage US, so they are going after them. Pure and simple.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
My oldest just asked me "Isn't this a Boston Tea Party moment?"
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 02, 2013, 05:31:03 PM
The reason this is evoking such a visceral reaction is because it is so obviously inexplicable outside of pure vindictive spite. They know going after 90 year old WWII vets will outrage US, so they are going after them. Pure and simple.

(http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-finger-pointing.jpg)

Petty. Pot-Smoking. 16-year old. Punk.
Always has been. Always will be.
Dumb ass is so arrogant he thinks the optics don't matter.  They do
Today its 90 year old vets ignoring his orders.
Tomorrow its millions refusing to prove Health Insurance coverage on their tax forms ( even if they have it)  and filing millions of "amended" forms - and filling out bogus applications for health care using the fraudulent system designed to let you do just that.
Revolutions grow in power based on very public acts of defiance in which TPTB are revealed to be paper tigers, unable to control the simplest matters and the smallest areas.
.


Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 02, 2013, 05:41:53 PM
Now, dammit.

WAR.
This might be the best time to start one with most of them on furlow and all.

The investigative  sections at the justice dept surely would be slowed. Be like 12-7-41. ::laserkill::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 02, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Now, dammit.

WAR.


    machinegun
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
I pray the house doesn't yield to the pressure. And stays shutdown without apology.

More and more is getting out on how much obamacare will actually cost. Just look at THIS (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/01/affordable-care-not-so-affordable-or-adorable/) (and the comments) as one small example as to the potential cost.

"The silver plan also includes a 30% co-pay on most procedures! The cap on that for a family of 4 is $12,500. Therefore, Amy is set up to pay $24,464 before full coverage kicks in. In other words, she will be paying $24,464 for the equivalent of a catastrophic plan.

But it gets better. Under the CA Covered (CACA) silver plan, you will not be covered if you go to Stanford Medical Center or UCLA Medical Center."

(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t1949.gif)(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t1943.gif)(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/mad-smiley-bending-rod.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)

Magnum, may we please steal your hair-pulling smilie for our collection?  Pretty puleeeeeze?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: OldSailor on October 02, 2013, 07:41:26 PM
Yup.

Traitors within and within within.

 ::gaah::

ETA - Harry Reid blames Republicans of course for shutdown and Vet's being blocked, and that is what the MFM will parrot...but they are all wrong -

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/obama-admin-knew-about-wwii-veterans-request-and-rejected-it/ (http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/obama-admin-knew-about-wwii-veterans-request-and-rejected-it/)

More Fedcoats blocking off people from their memorials...

(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-10-02-at-6.43.26-AM-550x375.png)

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/wwii-veterans-plan-to-storm-lincoln-memorial-today-closed-due-to-obama-admin-pettiness/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/wwii-veterans-plan-to-storm-lincoln-memorial-today-closed-due-to-obama-admin-pettiness/)

Thugs!

 ::gaah::

You beat me to it.  Good show.

My Dad was a WWII vet, USAAF stationed in the Pacific in New Guinea and later as part of the first AAF group into Clark Air Base right after the Army pushed the Japanese out.

If he had lived long enough to be able to visit the WWII Memorial I would be even more angry than I am now to learn that some self-important Chicago thug decided to try to lock him out.

I don't know how many of you have ever been to the Mall in DC, but there are no gates, no fences around any of the monuments or memorials.  They were never closed off from the public in any of the other 17 government shutdowns.  Those with doors that can be locked (Washington Monument and Smithsonian Museums for example) were locked and access denied.  But the Lincoln Memorial, Vietnam Veteran's Memorial and such as well as the rest of the Mall remained unobstructed in my experience.  You might as well try closing off the Reflecting Pool in front of the Lincoln Memorial. 

This is complete and utter B**L S**T!  This is President Zero's administration trying to make this shutdown as painful as possible.  He should pay a price and his party should pay steep price.  The Republicans are no great shakes but IMO the only good Democrat is one no longer in office.

 ::USA::


Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 02, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
OldSailor, its all in the messaging.  republicans suck at messaging.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Amen, OldSailor!   ::USA::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Reid is such a douche...and true to form he resorts to attacking republicans without ever denying he said what he said...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326219-reid-clarifies-exchange-with-reporter-after-conservatives-pounce (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326219-reid-clarifies-exchange-with-reporter-after-conservatives-pounce)

He can try to walk this back and he'll have the lapdog media cover his sorry ass, but we all know what he means...and Obama actions to make the shutdown as painful as possible to suit their meme of blaming republicans at all costs is laid bare for all to see.

Keep talkin' Harry!

Then, the dipsh*t tries the old head-fake of a disingenuous promise to be kept later ploy if only the House plays ball with Dem demands...Boehner in a rare moment of clarity sensing weakness in Dingy and the Dem strategy wisely turns it down.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/326137-reid-offers-to-talk-tax-reform-if-gop-funds-government (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/326137-reid-offers-to-talk-tax-reform-if-gop-funds-government)

On a personal note I was asked today by a co-worker why I am so happy, when I said "because the government is mostly shut down" they chuckled.  Many are so conditioned by MFM bullsplatter right out of DemonRat caves that they mutter the typical brainless blather "I am so sick of this, they are both so stupid, always pointing fingers!"...I roll my eyes and just smile.

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 02, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
Das Führer hates our military forces, and he only uses them for photo ops. He's a coward, a traitor and a liar who was behind shutting the memorial down.

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 02, 2013, 10:28:04 PM
Reid is such a douche...and true to form he resorts to attacking republicans without ever denying he said what he said...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326219-reid-clarifies-exchange-with-reporter-after-conservatives-pounce (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326219-reid-clarifies-exchange-with-reporter-after-conservatives-pounce)

He can try to walk this back and he'll have the lapdog media cover his sorry ass, but we all know what he means...and Obama actions to make the shutdown as painful as possible to suit their meme of blaming republicans at all costs is laid bare for all to see.

Keep talkin' Harry!

Then, the dipsh*t tries the old head-fake of a disingenuous promise to be kept later ploy if only the House plays ball with Dem demands...Boehner in a rare moment of clarity sensing weakness in Dingy and the Dem strategy wisely turns it down.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/326137-reid-offers-to-talk-tax-reform-if-gop-funds-government (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/326137-reid-offers-to-talk-tax-reform-if-gop-funds-government)

On a personal note I was asked today by a co-worker why I am so happy, when I said "because the government is mostly shut down" they chuckled.  Many are so conditioned by MFM bullsplatter right out of DemonRat caves that they mutter the typical brainless blather "I am so sick of this, they are both so stupid, always pointing fingers!"...I roll my eyes and just smile.

 ::popcorn::


 It's for the children!But not that one.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 02, 2013, 10:45:46 PM
Quote
Danny Danon / AP
     
BY: Lachlan Markay   
October 2, 2013 12:15 pm

The National Park Service has ordered the closure of a Virginia park that sits on federal land, even though the government provides no resources for its maintenance or operation.

The Claude Moore Colonial Farm announced on Wednesday that NPS has ordered it to suspend operations until Congress agrees to a deal to fund the federal government.

According to Anna Eberly, managing director of the farm, NPS sent law enforcement agents to the park on Tuesday evening to remove staff and volunteers from the property.

“You do have to wonder about the wisdom of an organization that would use staff they don’t have the money to pay to evict visitors from a park site that operates without costing them any money,” she said.

The park withstood prior government shutdowns, noting in a news release that the farm will be closed to the public for the first time in 40 years.

“In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm,” Eberly explained in an emailed statement.

http://freebeacon.com/shutdown-theater/ (http://freebeacon.com/shutdown-theater/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 10:47:51 PM
they really do think we're stupid
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 02, 2013, 10:51:28 PM
they really do think we're stupid

For sure. But I believe the time is rapidly coming when...........
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2013, 10:59:17 PM
I really REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see MANY entities and people resist this. I want the regime to feel control slipping away.

Why not just come to work, open up for business, bring video cameras, and force the thugs on the scene to make a choice. Either way, the government loses.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 02, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
You don't even have to force a confrontation.  Just stand outside the barricades with signs and invite the media.  Do it everyday.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2013, 12:36:01 AM
Especially enraging is the fact that these WWII vets are all near the end of their lives. Denying any of them the opportunity to visit the memorial today is pretty much the same thing as denying them the opportunity to ever see it at all.

What a petty, vindictive little bitch this president is. But really there's nothing new about this mindset. This is the stock and trade of Democrats at every level. Notice how any time there is a budget battle at the municipal level, the Democrats always go to their standard tactic of bemoaning the cuts to police, firefighters, and teachers? Because naturally you start there, right? It's never useless sinecured functionaries at some meddling agency of busybodies, always the high profile ones that people more readily identify as useful to the public.

Yes, this is one of those situations where it really sucks that there is no opposition party, because a competent opposition could make this backfire on the Democrats spectacularly.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 03, 2013, 04:36:57 AM
You don't even have to force a confrontation.  Just stand outside the barricades with signs and invite the media.  Do it everyday.

Get arrested.  Show civil disobedience to an out of control government, as opposed to the sloppy and violent Occutard movement.  Barry must be challenged at every turn to turn up the heat, so to speak.  His oversized and supercilious ego cannot stand being told no, and we all knew that.  This is the chance to really hammer him with a massive 'no' from the People by taking over OUR monuments, not his as he deigns to think.  No matter what he does, in his terms, the optics would suck, but he'll do a sucky thing anyway, doubling down with venomous arrogance.  It's this scorpion's nature.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 03, 2013, 05:39:03 AM
Let me know when they're gone to storm the gates fo the WH. I'll be there. machinegun
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 03, 2013, 05:54:10 AM
Let me know when they're gone to storm the gates fo the WH. I'll be there.

A TEA Party/motorcycle protest that would take a detour to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would be a great start.  Hand out plastic pitchforks, too.  Make it street theater, as the left always does.  But use our street theater drama to teach a lesson about the origins of our country, to be truly radical in the face of an overbearing government.  To put them on notice.  In their words, to speak Truth to Power.  And Power always hates when that happens.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 03, 2013, 06:30:21 AM
I don't know about that lame effort. I would be interested to see if the secret service has enough balls to use shoot to kill against a crowd of 100k that's willing to shoot back.

"American Spring"

Drag this asshat and conspirators out by their ears.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 07:16:19 AM
Tea Party Caucus should be front and center, forming a human barricade to shield these men from statist tools!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 07:30:50 AM
If we are going to DC then we need to get our hands on all the dump trucks and fresh manure we can get our hands on and return to the Fedcoats what they've been dumping on us for years...decades...

 ;)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 03, 2013, 07:32:00 AM
Tea Party Caucus should be front and center, forming a human barricade to shield these men from statist tools!

Exactly.  Street theater.  Libbies do this shyt all the time with reps getting arrested for some liberal cause, like Planned Parenthood and other garbage.  Turn the tables around.  Watch how they react to our criticism, to our protests, to our calls for an end to this arbitrary and totalitarian regime.  Let the Dems let their inner Bull Connor out, which is always festering just below the surface.  Let them make the constitutional rights photo op of this new century by their heavy-handedness, and you know it will be; President Thin Skinned cannot be mocked.  Arresting a vet in a wheelchair at the Memorial dedicated to his service will not go over very well, at the very least.  Historically, littler things have set off rebellions.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 07:38:49 AM
Tea Party Caucus should be front and center, forming a human barricade to shield these men from statist tools!

Exactly.  Street theater.  Libbies do this shyt all the time with reps getting arrested for some liberal cause, like Planned Parenthood and other garbage.  Turn the tables around.  Watch how they react to our criticism, to our protests, to our calls for an end to this arbitrary and totalitarian regime.  Let the Dems let their inner Bull Connor out, which is always festering just below the surface.  Let them make the constitutional rights photo op of this new century by their heavy-handedness, and you know it will be; President Thin Skinned cannot be mocked.  Arresting a vet in a wheelchair at the Memorial dedicated to his service will not go over very well, at the very least.  Historically, littler things have set off rebellions.

Yup.  We see it, why can't they?  Too many prime opportunities pass by unchallenged...drives...me...crazy!  The insidious rot of pc/diversity/multi-cultism must be at work, nothing else makes sense.  People have to become bold, put pc crap aside and DO WHAT IS RIGHT, DO WHAT IS NECESSARY!

Please, God, make it so!!!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2013, 07:56:41 AM
Michele Bachmann and a couple other congressmen (Steve King?) were out there, tearing down the barricades, standing in solidarity with the veterans. But yeah, this would have been a great opportunity for the Tea Party caucus to make a stand.

After all, they know this fight isn't just about Obamacare, the debt ceiling, the government shutdown, etc. They know it's about liberty.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 08:10:05 AM
Michele Bachmann and a couple other congressmen (Steve King?) were out there, tearing down the barricades, standing in solidarity with the veterans. But yeah, this would have been a great opportunity for the Tea Party caucus to make a stand.

After all, they know this fight isn't just about Obamacare, the debt ceiling, the government shutdown, etc. They know it's about liberty.

Yes, Steve King ... and Louie Gohmert.

For what it's worth, Mark Levin issued a promise last night, that if one hair on the head of one Vet is disturbed, he will bring a world of hurt down on them.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2013, 08:23:02 AM
This one is for you Lady V

Obama attempts to close Mt Vernon, because they co-own parking lots  (http://www.infowars.com/barrycades-government-tries-to-shut-down-privately-owned-mount-vernon/)

I would be out there taking them right back down again. Or burning them.  How bad to you petty functionaries want to execute Obama's vindictive and pathetic order? Bad enough to get shot over it?  Yo, MORON LEFTIES! You are perilously close to getting split blood in your temper tantrum. Want that?




Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 09:00:13 AM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html)

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City Tavern at 3rd and Walnut Streets in the Old City section of the city has been told it must close until the U.S. Congress passes a spending bill.

The restaurant, which opened for the first time in 1773 and was frequented by the nation's founding fathers, sits inside Independence National Historical Park and the building is owned by the U.S. National Parks Service.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html)

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City Tavern at 3rd and Walnut Streets in the Old City section of the city has been told it must close until the U.S. Congress passes a spending bill.

The restaurant, which opened for the first time in 1773 and was frequented by the nation's founding fathers, sits inside Independence National Historical Park and the building is owned by the U.S. National Parks Service.

Somebody, please. Show up with a key, open the doors, and fire up the grill.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 09:22:19 AM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Famous-City-Tavern-Closed-by-Government-Shutdown-226198441.html)

Quote
City Tavern at 3rd and Walnut Streets in the Old City section of the city has been told it must close until the U.S. Congress passes a spending bill.

The restaurant, which opened for the first time in 1773 and was frequented by the nation's founding fathers, sits inside Independence National Historical Park and the building is owned by the U.S. National Parks Service.

Somebody, please. Show up with a key, open the doors, and fire up the grill.

IDP, I'm surprised and dismayed that no one has done that yet.  Are we, as Americans, so damn cowed that we dast not stand the hell up?  I fully understand not wanting to experience the gentle ministrations *ahem* of the police, but enough already!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 09:24:54 AM
Time to make them club or shoot.  They are calling our bluff, time to man up.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 09:27:02 AM
Damn right!  Get in their grill, arm them aside...make them club you like a baby seal or shoot you...and have all cameras rolling!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 09:36:25 AM
Michele Bachmann and a couple other congressmen (Steve King?) were out there, tearing down the barricades, standing in solidarity with the veterans. But yeah, this would have been a great opportunity for the Tea Party caucus to make a stand.

After all, they know this fight isn't just about Obamacare, the debt ceiling, the government shutdown, etc. They know it's about liberty.

Yes, Steve King ... and Louie Gohmert.

For what it's worth, Mark Levin issued a promise last night, that if one hair on the head of one Vet is disturbed, he will bring a world of hurt down on them.

"I want to say this loud and clear to the people on Capitol Hill who are listening, to this administration. You lay one damn hand on one of those World War II vets at that memorial and I’ll bring half a million people to that damn memorial! You got that?!

I’m sitting here stewing thinking about this – playing these damn games? You’ll ignite a movement in this country like you’ve never seen before! The biker patriot army – veterans from all over the country, every single war and battle in this country, Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever!

I’ll be damned if one president, with his feet up on the desk in the oval office, with a smirk on his face, looking at his golf card…I’ll be damned if this president or anybody else is going to shut down that WWII memorial. Period! These men are in their 80s and 90s.

So let me repeat! You lay one hand on one of those men and arrest them for going to their memorial, which they fought for, which was not paid by you dammit, it was paid by the American people – we will come out of every town and city in this nation! We will come out of every county. And both coasts! Both borders! And we will march on Washington against your tyranny!

You’ve been warned!"


- See more at: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/#sthash.I7PpfJKg.dpuf (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/#sthash.I7PpfJKg.dpuf)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131003/NEWS/310030327 (http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131003/NEWS/310030327)

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... Nauset Knoll Motor Lodge with its unparalleled perch overlooking Nauset Beach.

... Ed Benz has operated the motor lodge since 1964 with a lease from the Cape Cod National Seashore, which owns the property. And since the Seashore had to close like all federal parks on Oct. 1, so do all the folks with concessions within them.

... A government shutdown has never touched the motel in the nearly 50 years Benz has had the concession, he said.

The previous shutdowns were during the winter months, when the place is closed anyway.

So this came as quite a shock and will cut into his profit margins for the year, Benz said.

He canceled the entire month of reservations because a congressional compromise doesn't seem likely, Benz said.

SPITE!!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
You know that hill we've been wondering about?

This is it.

This is our Boston Tea Party. Our Bunker Hill.  Our Alamo.

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The Battle of Bunker Hill took place on June 17, 1775, mostly on and around Breed's Hill, during the Siege of Boston early in the American Revolutionary War. The battle is named after the adjacent Bunker Hill, which was peripherally involved in the battle and was the original objective of both colonial and British troops, and is occasionally referred to as the "Battle of Breed's Hill."

On June 13, 1775, the leaders of the colonial forces besieging Boston learned that the British generals were planning to send troops out from the city to occupy the unoccupied hills surrounding the city. In response to this intelligence, 1,200 colonial troops under the command of William Prescott stealthily occupied Bunker Hill and Breed's Hill, constructed an earthen redoubt on Breed's Hill, and built lightly fortified lines across most of the Charlestown Peninsula.

When the British were alerted to the presence of the new position the next day, they mounted an attack against them. After two assaults on the colonial lines were repulsed with significant British casualties, the British finally captured the positions on the third assault, after the defenders in the redoubt ran out of ammunition. The colonial forces retreated to Cambridge over Bunker Hill, suffering their most significant losses on Bunker Hill.

While the result was a victory for the British, they suffered heavy losses: over 800 wounded and 226 killed, including a notably large number of officers. The battle is seen as an example of a Pyrrhic victory, because the immediate gain (the capture of Bunker Hill) was modest and did not significantly change the state of the siege, while the cost (the loss of nearly a third of the deployed forces) was high. Meanwhile, colonial forces were able to retreat and regroup in good order having suffered fewer casualties. Furthermore, the battle demonstrated that relatively inexperienced colonial forces were willing and able to stand up to regular army troops in a pitched battle.
link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bunker_Hill)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 09:56:12 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Patriots/AmRevPatriotFlagBearer.gif) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/libertasinfinitio/media/Patriots/AmRevPatriotFlagBearer.gif.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 09:57:07 AM
Quote
...  one of the more appalling casualties of the government shutdown has been funding for the National Institutes for Health, which has had to start turning away the roughly 200 patients, including children with cancer, who come to it each week for treatment in clinical trials. This is obviously a PR problem for the Republican Party. So as part of its strategy of pushing bills that would selectively fund discrete, visible, and popular pieces of the government, such as the District of Columbia and the National Park Service, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has also proposed restoring the NIH budget.

This is not sitting well with the Democrats. Per The Wall Street Journal today:

    "I would like to guarantee that the people who are suffering, not getting treatment at the NIH could be answered tomorrow," Mr. Cantor said in a statement. "For the Democrats to say we're going to play a political game and we're not going to help those kids — we're really tired of playing games."

    Democrats rejected the approach.

    "It's time for Republicans to stop throwing one crazy idea after another at the wall, in hopes that something will stick," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) said when the Senate opened on Wednesday. "Nothing is stuck. There's been a sensible plan to reopen the government right in front of House Republicans all along."

Meanwhile, Cantor tweeted out the president's official veto threat:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-gop-wants-to-restore-nih-funding-should-obama-allow-it/280203/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-gop-wants-to-restore-nih-funding-should-obama-allow-it/280203/)

I'm really pissed off at the slant here, as though the author of this piece had no idea that this was the plan -- to fund everything but Obamacare.

So, it's the Republicans holding America hostage, or is it those POS Reid and Obongo.

eta:  Okay, let what he says at 1:31 hit you right between the eyes ...

Harry Reid: 'Why Would We Want To' Help One Kid With Cancer? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lFyFJeZSY#)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 03, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
@iowahawkblog
Amalgamated Barricades up 8.56
#stockreport
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 03, 2013, 10:17:12 AM
Quote
Gov’t shutdown spreads to beaches of Normandy
By Associated Press October 2, 2013 | 9:02am
Modal Trigger
Gov’t shutdown spreads to beaches of Normandy
The D-Day invasion is remembered at the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial which has been closed because of the government shutdown./quote]


http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/govt-shutdown-spreads-to-beaches-of-normandy/ (http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/govt-shutdown-spreads-to-beaches-of-normandy/)

(The AP has cracked down on copying and pasting things from their articles.)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 10:19:47 AM
putting aside that this is Lincoln who I know some are not fans of it is a monument owned by us:

(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x331/LadyVirginiaUSA/govtshutdown_zps0a77931c.jpg) (http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/LadyVirginiaUSA/media/govtshutdown_zps0a77931c.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 10:22:32 AM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/shutdown-white-house-ordering-privately-run-privately-funded-parks-to-close/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/shutdown-white-house-ordering-privately-run-privately-funded-parks-to-close/)

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UPDATE 10/2/13 @ 7:27 pm Central: I just heard from Mr. Meyer. He emails:

    It’s official.  They are shutting all of us down ASAP.  Marching orders straight from the White House.

Update: Mr. Meyer emails to add that not only is his business being forced to take losses for the closures, but in some cases the government is making him and the other park management companies buy the barricades that will be used to shut the parks. He says:

    We are like prisoners of war who have to pay for our prison.

Original Story:

Warren Meyer {http://www.coyoteblog.com/} of Phoenix, AZ, is owner and president of Recreation Resource Management, Inc. RRM employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers across about a dozen states. It is one of a handful of companies that have been managing national parks and campgrounds as tenants for years, through previous government shutdowns including the last one in 1995-1996. Those previous shutdowns never closed any of the parks managed in this way, but the current shutdown threatens closure.

The campgrounds are self-sufficient and receive no federal funding. No government employees staff or manage the parks. The management companies pay the National Park Service out of the funds they generate from operating the thousands of campgrounds. So the reason for the shutdown is puzzling to Meyer.

Today, he sent a letter to both of his senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake, asking for help to keep his parks open.

“My company, based in North Phoenix, operates nearly over 100 US Forest Service campgrounds and day use areas under concession contract. Yesterday, as in all past government shutdowns, the Department of Agriculture and US Forest Service confirmed we would stay open during the government shutdown. This makes total sense, since our operations are self-sufficient (we are fully funded by user fees at the gate), we get no federal funds, we employ no government workers on these sites, and we actually pay rent into the Treasury.”

Notice that last part. The parks not only do not cost the taxpayers any money, they pay funds into the Treasury out of the fees park users pay. Shutting them down will cost the taxpayers money.

How much? Meyer told the Tatler that his parks generate hundreds of thousands of dollars per week. Multiply that across his competitors and the Treasury could lose a few million dollars, in what is essentially free money to the government, over the course of the shutdown.

Which, as Meyer points out, is unnecessary, as these management companies are not revenue losers, but revenue generators for the Treasury.

He writes

    However, today, we have been told by senior member of the US Forest Service and Department of Agriculture that people “above the department”, which I presume means the White House, plan to order the Forest Service to needlessly and illegally close all private operations. I can only assume their intention is to artificially increase the cost of the shutdown as some sort of political ploy.

    The point of the shutdown is to close non-essential operations that require Federal money and manpower to stay open. So why is the White House closing private operations that require no government money to keep open and actually pay a percentage of their gate revenues back to the Treasury? We are a tenant of the US Forest Service, and a tenant does not have to close his business just because his landlord goes on a vacation.

The US Department of Agriculture is an executive branch agency, and answers to the White House. Another Judicial Watch FOIA may be in order to get to the bottom of this.

Meyer says he has sought clarification from the US Department of Agriculture about the shutdown. Officials are saying that they are shutting down the privately run, revenue-generating parks “to be consistent with the National Park Service.”

That would be the National Park Service which has barricaded the World War II Memorial in Washington, D.C., and closed a self-sufficient living history farm in Virginia.

Meyer says that the situation could cost jobs and is leaving him stranded, not knowing what to tell groups that are planning to use the parks his company manages.

So, after the shutdown ends, we'll be treated to an accounting of what it has "cost" the Treasury, right?  Wanna bet the losses incurred here will be in the account, but with no detail?  Nah, me either.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 10:23:12 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Patriots/thesoldier.gif) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/libertasinfinitio/media/Patriots/thesoldier.gif.html)

All they asked for was a piece of ground to rest our honored dead...all Obama has to offer is hate and a middle finger...

The contrast is stark...
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 10:25:56 AM
They are provoking me...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Smackdown/godzilla-flying-kick.gif) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/libertasinfinitio/media/Smackdown/godzilla-flying-kick.gif.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
the poor folks paid by the government aren't being affected by this so they may not even notice the shutdown--how many of them are going to a natl park or campground?

this affects middle America who go to parks, visit historic sites

if Americans don't see this as a Boston Tea Party moment then

count on quartering troops next to enforce these dictatorial proclamations
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 03, 2013, 10:36:29 AM
He truly hates anything to do with our military forces.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 03, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Blog%20Art/ObamaShutdown_zps8743c862.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/gablabs/media/2013%20Blog%20Art/ObamaShutdown_zps8743c862.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 11:08:17 AM
Military may be getting paid but their commissaries are closed.  They must shop at regular stores which will cost them money.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 11:23:04 AM
Interesting history...

http://ideas.time.com/2013/10/03/newt-gingrich-founding-fathers-liked-shutdowns/ (http://ideas.time.com/2013/10/03/newt-gingrich-founding-fathers-liked-shutdowns/)

Democratic Speaker Tip O’Neill had twelve shutdowns during his Speakership.

More anarchy!   ::stirpot::

The only way to deal with a bully (or lots of bullies) is to bust them hard in the face and make them bleed.  No deal should be reached until dem's bleed...

 ::oldman::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3t9lf8kHxe0/Ukyz6Zi3FuI/AAAAAAABPYc/sqM8-yYCL8E/s1600/131002-wwII-outrage.jpg)

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/10/quite-possibly-saddest-photo-ive-ever.html?m=0 (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/10/quite-possibly-saddest-photo-ive-ever.html?m=0)

And, they hate little kids with cancer too.

What is critical for them to do, besides be as big a pain in the ass as possible to the American people?

If you guessed "Setting up hashtags on Twitter to demonize Republicans" you win a cookie!

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/03/schumer-on-government-shutdown-were-working-with-the-white-house-on-a-hashtag/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/03/schumer-on-government-shutdown-were-working-with-the-white-house-on-a-hashtag/)

Sorry, out of cookies, the Fedcoats stole the dough...

Obama...worst of the worst...

 ::hat-tip:: Diogenes' Middle Finger

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7gxmH6h1Lvk/Ukikb2oRh9I/AAAAAAAAZ60/uU-kFpJe78k/s1600/p3.jpg)

http://suckersonparade.blogspot.com/2013/09/70-years-of-americas-democrat-statesman.html (http://suckersonparade.blogspot.com/2013/09/70-years-of-americas-democrat-statesman.html)

Talk about hitting the bottom of the barrel...

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x331/LadyVirginiaUSA/FranceUSgovtshutdown_zps19e78b15.jpg) (http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/LadyVirginiaUSA/media/FranceUSgovtshutdown_zps19e78b15.jpg.html)

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The site overlooking the D-Day invasion beaches is one of 24 US military cemeteries overseas that have closed to visitors since Monday. Ten more cemeteries in in France, as well as others in various European countries as well as Mexico, Panama, Tunisia and the Philippines, will remain closed for the duration of the shutdown.

The cemeteries are maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission, set up after the First World War. Nearly 125,000 US servicemen and women are buried at its cemeteries, and an additional 94,000 are commemorated on tablets of the missing.

-AP
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-budget-battle-shuts-war-graves-29628631.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-budget-battle-shuts-war-graves-29628631.html)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 11:54:30 AM
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Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2013, 12:02:14 PM
Sorry for the merges guys. The shutdown is obviously a big deal, and insofar as our commentary deals with the regime's vindictive arbitrary closings, I'd like it all to be in one place, unless there's a compelling reason to place it elsewhere.

Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 03, 2013, 12:04:27 PM
Rush to Obama:

#GoFundYourself#GoFundYourself.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 03, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
The stuttering clusterfail is talking his show on the road, to a world audience.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/10/02/US-military-cemeteries-overseas-closed-by-shutdown/UPI-59741380743903/ (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/10/02/US-military-cemeteries-overseas-closed-by-shutdown/UPI-59741380743903/)

The question obviously would be, what would SCoaMF have to gain by closing down places like Normandy, or the Manila-American Cemetery (of which I was at a couple of weeks ago...yes I bawled, I dare you not to!).  It's not like the typical Obama voter could find France, and certainly not the Philippines, on a map?  So why bother with that particular episode of Shut Down Theater?

It was postulated by a woman as WZ that he's doing it to shame the US, in the world's eyes.  I have to say, it fits this guy's whole term in office, to use this to further his goal of taking the US down a few pegs.  Never let a crisis to go waste and all.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 03, 2013, 12:07:31 PM
The dangers of doing this at work, taking tens of minutes to compose a post, Lady Virginia beat me to it.   Oh well, enough anger to share.   ::rockets::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 12:18:43 PM
I'm on twitter right now

@LadyVirginia

Until I have to go out after lunch I will be tweeting using their hashtag #BoehnerShutdown

(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x331/LadyVirginiaUSA/obamalogic_zpsb86faac0.jpg) (http://s1176.photobucket.com/user/LadyVirginiaUSA/media/obamalogic_zpsb86faac0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 03, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
I'm on twitter right now

@LadyVirginia

Until I have to go out after lunch I will be tweeting using their hashtag #BoehnerShutdown

I'm not getting why you would do that (blame Boehner).


I know he doesn't read these...but his peeps do.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
P,

It's how I'm engaging those people.  I got libs answering me with their stupid comments.  It's too fun.

It means they will read my comments as they follow the hashtag
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
didn't take long for me to be called a racist

 ;D
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
On somewhat of a side note, but related because it ties into this petty and vindictive triumphalism that characterizes these....people, but has anyone else noticed that the Obama 2012 stickers seem to have become more common on cars?

I see more of them now than I did in the election season. Alex Jones at Infowars (and say what you want about his oddball tendencies, he's clearly on the side of liberty) calls this their sense of "reflected glory" and I think that is a good way to put it. They luxuriate in "their guy" winning, and not just winning but then running roughshod over the losers. Everything this regime does is a deliberate finger in the eye to traditional America, and his screeching band of flying monkeys are vicariously relishing in it too.

Things are very stratified in this country. It's all personal now. We're in the midst of a classic lead-up to the outbreak of a civil war. The Civil War didn't suddenly just break out in 1861 either. There were decades of disagreements-turned-resentment-turned-hatred before any shots were fired, and the same sort of thing is palpably happening all around us now. I hate the Left. I won't live under their rule. I hold all of them responsible, whether they are actively executing the fundamental transformation or are merely one of the smug enablers.

What's the quote from Shakespeare? So foul a sky clears not without a storm? Oh, it's coming alright.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
On somewhat of a side note, but related because it ties into this petty and vindictive triumphalism that characterizes these....people, but has anyone else noticed that the Obama 2012 stickers seem to have become more common on cars?

Actually what stickers I have seen are old faded 2008 ones.  Granted, I am now living in a rural area and there weren't that many to begin with. But I do end up driving through the people's republic of Boulder and Boulder County on occasion and there they are conspicuously absent. I have even had a few trips when I didn't see even one.  I have to go through Denver once a month as well on the journey to water Solar batteries... I usually see on one my entire trip - over 200 miles, a good 100 in urban areas.  But then, I flip them off every time I see one, and  let the fire of hatred burn as brightly as I can in my eyes. Perhaps I am not the only one doing that. They might very well be getting the hint that we want nothing but pain and suffering visited upon them ( If I could keep every one of them alive till they starved, I would do it. And sleep well at night)   and they might just be sensing that the govt really can't do squat to stop it if hostilities begin.  They may be trying to avoid getting on anyone's list, and I know all of here have got em.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/03/sf-shutdown-theater/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/03/sf-shutdown-theater/)

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San Francisco’s Cliff House, a privately owned and very profitable restaurant overlooking the Pacific Ocean, was suddenly and unexpectedly ordered closed today, “because” the building sits on federal land. This, despite the fact that the Cliff House racks up $11.5 million in annual sales and is one of the most profitable independent restaurants in the nation.

How does the government save money by shuttering a profitable business? And a private one at that?

There are no federal employees at the Cliff House restaurant; a receptionist still manning the phones there today confirmed that all employees are paid by the restaurant’s owners, not by the government. As the Cliff House’s own Web site notes today, the restaurant is a “concessionaire” operating a business on Federal land — in this case, the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, which encompasses much of the Pacific shoreline along San Francisco and Marin counties — which means it is a private business which pays a fee to operate on government property ...

But there is no federally staffed “admission office” to access Cliff House, nor are there park rangers nor any other government employees involved in the Cliff House restaurant’s operation — it sits directly on a city street, accessible to all, as this photo reveals:

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2013/10/cliff_house.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 03, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
This travesty will never stop. He's begun now, and he'll never stop.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
Neither will I; every time I see one of these, I'm gonna drag it here.  For the trial record.

I'm just waiting for the word from somebody -- I wish Levin would activate his threat now -- to amass and I'm there.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/03/sf-shutdown-theater/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/03/sf-shutdown-theater/)

Quote
San Francisco’s Cliff House, a privately owned and very profitable restaurant overlooking the Pacific Ocean, was suddenly and unexpectedly ordered closed today, “because” the building sits on federal land. This, despite the fact that the Cliff House racks up $11.5 million in annual sales and is one of the most profitable independent restaurants in the nation.

How does the government save money by shuttering a profitable business? And a private one at that?

There are no federal employees at the Cliff House restaurant; a receptionist still manning the phones there today confirmed that all employees are paid by the restaurant’s owners, not by the government. As the Cliff House’s own Web site notes today, the restaurant is a “concessionaire” operating a business on Federal land — in this case, the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, which encompasses much of the Pacific shoreline along San Francisco and Marin counties — which means it is a private business which pays a fee to operate on government property ...

But there is no federally staffed “admission office” to access Cliff House, nor are there park rangers nor any other government employees involved in the Cliff House restaurant’s operation — it sits directly on a city street, accessible to all, as this photo reveals:

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2013/10/cliff_house.jpg)

They have a lawsuit - lost business because of the violation of a lease. I very much doubt their lease with the govt to operate on Federal land includes a "federal govt shutdown clause" Seriously. You go out, you open up and you do business as usual. And you show any fed that comes by your lease and ask them what in that document gives them the authority to close a private establishment with a valid and paid lease to operate. Or better yet, just shoot the goon in the head for being a willing paid lackey of a corrupt and illegitimate tyrant, and throw his body over the cliff.
 


Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 03:56:41 PM
At last, testicles in evidence ......

The National Park Service has told 2 lodges along the Blue Ridge Parkway that they must close Thursday and lodgers must be out by 6 p.m. One says it won't. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/02/blue-ridge-lodge-to-defy-shutdown-order/2911875/)

Quote
The government owns the building and the land. The National Park Service had given him until 6 p.m. Thursday to shut down and kick out his 78 guests.

He called owner Bruce O'Connell of Pisgah Inn Inc., who was in Mexico. O'Connell had seen the same report about the veterans. They came up with a plan.

"We thought if those guys can do it, we can make a stand," O'Connell said. "We just decided that it is in the visitors' best interest that we remain open."

... Miller told his guests Wednesday that the inn would not be closing — even though another Blue Ridge Parkway lodge on Park Service land in Virginia, the 68-room Peaks of Otter Lodge, says on its website that it is bowing to the government's wishes and closing completely at 6 p.m. Thursday.

What will happen after the deadline passes Thursday is unclear.

“We thought if those guys can do it, we can make a stand.”
— Rob Miller, Pisgah Inn about WWII vets keeping their memorial open

Parkway Chief Ranger Steve Stinnett said Wednesday that Washington was aware of the problem. He could not immediately say what steps the government might take to close the 51-room inn.

"We are in discussions at this time," Stinnett said.

The O'Connell family has operated the inn since 1977. It's one of the few remaining mom-and-pop concessionaires in the National Park Service.

Park concessionaires have been told to close, and lodges have been given the 6 p.m. Thursday deadline to allow them time to get guests out.

Miller called around on Wednesday trying to find other concessionaires who would stand with him but had no luck.

He posted the plan on the inn's Facebook page, which garnered nearly 190 likes by late afternoon.

People applauded the decision.

"Glad to see that you will stay open," Mike Stinneford commented. "I can't imagine an October without the Inn."

The fall is when these inns in western NC make their money.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
If the feds roll in, people need to form an unbreakable ring around this lodge.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
Farce on display...

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/image_zps39417bc9.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 03, 2013, 06:46:07 PM
If the feds roll in, people need to form an unbreakable ring around this lodge.

I truly hope they get some help and media there.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2013, 07:24:28 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/72a1693a2d48ad463370f795b7784636/tumblr_mtz34i5CyU1qhh3mro1_1280.jpg)

H/T KA-CHING

Source: conservativebrawler
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 03, 2013, 08:36:30 PM
Military may be getting paid but their commissaries are closed.  They must shop at regular stores which will cost them money.
[/quote
Welcome into the world in which those whom you love, live! I plead with YOU to stand with US!!! You have faced worse, as in tougher, but not more evil. Stand with us against Obama, my beloved warriors of freedom! Tell the man who currently sits as commander in chief that you serve the CONSTITUTION, then the PEOPLE, and in some far lower sense, the president, as far as he represents the others.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 03, 2013, 08:49:35 PM
Rush to Obama:

#GoFundYourself#GoFundYourself.

  The Avatar abd the name seem familiar,have we met before?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 04, 2013, 06:36:17 AM
Heritage.org

The American people need a leader, not a lecturer. For President Obama and his political allies, protecting a failed law that is hurting the country seems to be their top priority.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/04/mr-president-you-can-end-the-government-shutdown/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social (http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/04/mr-president-you-can-end-the-government-shutdown/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2013, 06:43:20 AM
Shutdown?  Shutdown?!

What is this "shutdown" people speak of?!

85% of government is still running!!!

Read more here - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-03/government-shutdown-36-facts-which-prove-almost-everything-still-running (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-03/government-shutdown-36-facts-which-prove-almost-everything-still-running)

Some of the stuff like schools etc who only get some Fedcoat subsidies (or the Fed which was chartered as an independent outfit [ha!]) is just fluff...but the main thing is what constitutes "essential" is a friggin' joke!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 04, 2013, 09:37:53 AM
from @KurtSchlichter
Trying to find the strength to go on in the wake of the shutdown!

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Blog%20Art/TheShutdown_zps75a2b00a.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/gablabs/media/2013%20Blog%20Art/TheShutdown_zps75a2b00a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 04, 2013, 09:47:25 AM
"Without the federal government, I can't have unprotected sex."

(http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u506/depressed.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: radioman on October 04, 2013, 09:49:08 AM
The root problem to what's going on with the shutdown is the fact that the Senate has been ignoring their constitutional duty to advise and consent on legislation passed by the House.

The House has passed legislation overthrowing Obamacare, repealing, defunding, or whatever more than 17 times, and Harry Reid has refused to introduce the legislation to the Senate, contrary to their responsibility and duty per the constitution.

That is why the House is using the CR as 'leverage', so that Harry Reid can't do what he has done in the past 17 times.

That is, circumvent his constitutional duty to introduce the legislation passed by the House. The House has the constitutional duty to pass said legislation, meaning, the Senate has a duty to advise and consent, not ignore and throw in the trash can.
People need to be educated as how government is supposed to work according to the constitution, not according to the Senate Rules.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 04, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Rush to Obama:

#GoFundYourself#GoFundYourself.

  The Avatar abd the name seem familiar,have we met before?

   Bump!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 04, 2013, 09:57:51 AM
WWII Memorial Barricade Wired Shut (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wired-shut-barricade-wwii-memorial-reinforced_759193.html)

Quote
... the barriers are still at the memorial, and they've been reinforced. This morning, I walked by the memorial and noticed that wires had been used to tie the fences together:

Meanwhile, the barricade in front of a memorial to World War I veterans a couple blocks away still looks like this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVvCkmPCIAIunjR.jpg)

Okay, now just bring a pair of dikes with ya.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 04, 2013, 10:22:26 AM

Quote
... the barriers are still at the memorial, and they've been reinforced. This morning, I walked by the memorial and noticed that wires had been used to tie the fences together:

Meanwhile, the barricade in front of a memorial to World War I veterans a couple blocks away still looks like this.

Okay, now just bring a pair of dikes with ya.

Why are they wasting money on new wire? That's not at all green!! If every Gummint employee would recycle the little twisty ties used to keep your bread loaf bags secured...we'd all be a lot better off.

(It could pay down the deficit...#TwistyTieNeutral)

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4839681998062782&w=200&h=177&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 04, 2013, 11:31:41 AM


Okay, now just bring a pair of dikes with ya.




Well with the DC chief of police they've already got one, surely they can scrounge up a second.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2013, 11:36:08 AM
"Without the federal government, I can't have unprotected sex."

(http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u506/depressed.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/slow_children1.jpg) (http://s585.photobucket.com/user/libertasinfinitio/media/Warnings/slow_children1.jpg.html)

Oh, and this person no doubt is about to be furloughed permanently by Darth Obama - “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.” (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-the-game/)

Dem's are evil vindictive excrement!

Shatmonkey Reid - “He’s a coward!”
Boehner spokesman - “We have to work together if we’re going to get anything done, and all this bullsh*t — the name-calling, leaking private emails — just makes it harder to do the work the American people sent us here to do.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/congress-work-reid-boehner-hes-coward-boehner-responds-bullsh*t (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/congress-work-reid-boehner-hes-coward-boehner-responds-bullsh*t)

When Boehner looks to be more the statesman...you know the Dem's are in trouble...

More - Reid: "Surrender", Boehner: No intention of "rolling over" on spending.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/boehner-speaks-live-webcast (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/boehner-speaks-live-webcast)

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 04, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
You know, that's just the thing with these weasels. If they would ever show some spine, they would be politically rewarded for it. Certainly I don't expect any principled leadership to be forthcoming from the Great Carrot though.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 04, 2013, 01:22:55 PM
Ultimately these closures are about Obama declaring himself monarch. He is saying these are not Common lands  to be used by the Peasants, but part of the King's Forest,  to be closed whenever he deems fit.  It is a punishment designed to remind the commoners of their station.  Really, the Tree of Liberty can't be watered soon enough.


Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 04, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Mix%20Art/MammieObammie_zps3a06c7d2.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/gablabs/media/2013%20Mix%20Art/MammieObammie_zps3a06c7d2.jpg.html)
Now showing...@ the privately funded Eric Himpton Holder Playhouse. Exclusive Engagement!
(free phones & condoms to 1st 1,000 registrants)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 04, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
My daughter was telling me a story this morning that Catholic priests who are contract employees providing services as chaplains to the military have been told that if they attempt to provide said services they will be arrested.  I said they need to get arrested. 

This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
Speaking of completely ridiculous...

CNBC: Obama Goes for a Walk (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/friday-humor-breaking-news)

 ::facepalm::

Yeah, not like POSOTUS has anything else to do...but if he stops too fast he may get a CNBC jurnotard lodged in his...well, again, nothing new there either...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 04, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1378711_10200786171757410_742455439_n.jpg)

Thanks to Pablo....er hat tip...er whatever the right etiquette is.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 04, 2013, 04:38:16 PM
My daughter was telling me a story this morning that Catholic priests who are contract employees providing services as chaplains to the military have been told that if they attempt to provide said services they will be arrested.  I said they need to get arrested. 

This is ridiculous.


I agree. It is time for principled resistance from the men of the cloth, Catholic and Protestant alike. The clergy have become dangerously close, in my opinion, to violating the Commandment "Thou shalt have no other God before Me". Maybe that sounds like hyperbole, but when you have men who purport to be pastors of the flock who seem to be state-fearing more than god-fearing, I'm not sure what else you can conclude.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 04, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
I said they need to get arrested. 

That's what I said.  Street theater all the way through to detainment/arrest, with all those cell phone cameras 'rolling'.

'Yes, Mr. Veteran (sitting in a wheel chair wearing a Silver Star and a Purple Heart), I have to arrest you.  You're trespassing at a memorial dedicated to your service.  You understand, don't you?  I'll just cuff your hands in front, if you don't mind.'

This time, instead of protests for civil rights, they will be protests for our Constitutional Rights, the ultimate showdown.

It has to be hammered home over and over and over and.... what a petty, vindictive, arrogant man-child Owebama is.  He cannot take criticism or mockery.  Riots over trying to open public war memorials to the public?  Only in Barry Candy-Ass Land.  This guy will trash any aspect of good America every chance he gets.  It's more than sticking a finger in the eye of America.  I don't care were he was born, he sure as shyt is not American.  No way, no how.  It shows with every jackbooted misstep.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 04, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
My daughter was telling me a story this morning that Catholic priests who are contract employees providing services as chaplains to the military have been told that if they attempt to provide said services they will be arrested.  I said they need to get arrested. 

This is ridiculous.


I agree. It is time for principled resistance from the men of the cloth, Catholic and Protestant alike. The clergy have become dangerously close, in my opinion, to violating the Commandment "Thou shalt have no other God before Me". Maybe that sounds like hyperbole, but when you have men who purport to be pastors of the flock who seem to be state-fearing more than god-fearing, I'm not sure what else you can conclude.
Agreed
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 04, 2013, 05:28:28 PM
At last, testicles in evidence ......

The National Park Service has told 2 lodges along the Blue Ridge Parkway that they must close Thursday and lodgers must be out by 6 p.m. One says it won't. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/02/blue-ridge-lodge-to-defy-shutdown-order/2911875/)

Quote
The government owns the building and the land. The National Park Service had given him until 6 p.m. Thursday to shut down and kick out his 78 guests.

He called owner Bruce O'Connell of Pisgah Inn Inc., who was in Mexico. O'Connell had seen the same report about the veterans. They came up with a plan.

"We thought if those guys can do it, we can make a stand," O'Connell said. "We just decided that it is in the visitors' best interest that we remain open."

... Miller told his guests Wednesday that the inn would not be closing — even though another Blue Ridge Parkway lodge on Park Service land in Virginia, the 68-room Peaks of Otter Lodge, says on its website that it is bowing to the government's wishes and closing completely at 6 p.m. Thursday.

What will happen after the deadline passes Thursday is unclear.

“We thought if those guys can do it, we can make a stand.”
— Rob Miller, Pisgah Inn about WWII vets keeping their memorial open

Parkway Chief Ranger Steve Stinnett said Wednesday that Washington was aware of the problem. He could not immediately say what steps the government might take to close the 51-room inn.

"We are in discussions at this time," Stinnett said.

The O'Connell family has operated the inn since 1977. It's one of the few remaining mom-and-pop concessionaires in the National Park Service.

Park concessionaires have been told to close, and lodges have been given the 6 p.m. Thursday deadline to allow them time to get guests out.

Miller called around on Wednesday trying to find other concessionaires who would stand with him but had no luck.

He posted the plan on the inn's Facebook page, which garnered nearly 190 likes by late afternoon.

People applauded the decision.

"Glad to see that you will stay open," Mike Stinneford commented. "I can't imagine an October without the Inn."

The fall is when these inns in western NC make their money.

UPDATE:  O'Connell was on with Hannity this afternoon.  He said after his Facebook post, stating he would remain open, the Park Police showed up and have barricaded entry to his parking lot with their cars, red lights on and all.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 04, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
The Nazis are in action.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 04, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
My daughter was telling me a story this morning that Catholic priests who are contract employees providing services as chaplains to the military have been told that if they attempt to provide said services they will be arrested.  I said they need to get arrested. 

This is ridiculous.


I agree. It is time for principled resistance from the men of the cloth, Catholic and Protestant alike. The clergy have become dangerously close, in my opinion, to violating the Commandment "Thou shalt have no other God before Me". Maybe that sounds like hyperbole, but when you have men who purport to be pastors of the flock who seem to be state-fearing more than god-fearing, I'm not sure what else you can conclude.

Heh. I had a very l-o-n-g conversation with 2 pastors of a church we attended for almost 2 years. It started with me suggesting that they take an interest in Pulpit Freedom Sunday (http://www.speakupmovement.org/Church/LearnMore/details/4702 (http://www.speakupmovement.org/Church/LearnMore/details/4702)) & preach a specific sermon on the routing of religious liberty & the push to transform it into mere “freedom to worship.”

They not only ignored me, they erased the message on the church Facebook site. So I posted a picture of an ostrich with its head in the sand…and the yogurt hit the fan. An email went out to me, copied to the Elder board and the elder statesman pastor invited me to have coffee @ a local café. I was told that they didn’t get involved in politics. Channeling a hybrid of George Washington meets Jonathan Edwards I told them this wasn’t “politics” but “religious liberty” and that Obama was coming to their church to eat their lunch.

We’ve since left the church (though our kids remain friends with some of the Youth Group)…but that’s why 2 Tim 1:7 is one of my stand-by verses. NO TIMIDITY! http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20tim%201:7&version=AMP
 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20tim%201:7&version=AMP)
I am out of the house 3-4 evenings per week visiting organizations like NJ2AS (2nd Amendment), local Tea Party chapters, Campaign for Liberty, Young Americans for Liberty, the John Birch Society…looking for leaders. I work with a leadership development group - & the goal is education. We distribute CD’s, DVD’s books & mentoring programs that speak to mental toughness, entrepreneurial/critical thinking, personal responsibility, regaining leadership at home (BIG problem in many households) & historical/founding values. The goal is to move the culture in a direction that serves freedom & free-market capitalism (for you can’t have one without the other).

Here’s a link to one of our flagship CD’s “13 Resolutions” which speaks about George Washington, Ben Franklin & Jonathan Edwards & how each of them set out to intentionally improve their thinking and thought process so that they would both honor God AND move the idea of liberty (and in Edward’s case, the Gospel too) forward. It’s a zipped folder containing 6 mp3’s which formulate the talk. https://www.dropbox.com/s/zeqrbnxe59e3ebf/13%20Resolutions.zip (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zeqrbnxe59e3ebf/13%20Resolutions.zip)

Talk is, as they say,cheap. We must walk our talk. Taking back the country is a nice catch-phrase. But what's the action plan?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 04, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
UPDATE:  O'Connell was on with Hannity this afternoon.  He said after his Facebook post, stating he would remain open, the Park Police showed up and have barricaded entry to his parking lot with their cars, red lights on and all.


Let all of this be a reminder that your average government employee who, you know, "just needs a job" is complicit in this bullsh*t. I know not literally every single one of them are bad, but the bulk of them seem to be willing to do whatever they're told -- even asinine things like spending time and money to barricade things in this absurd shutdown theater.

So let's see: we are to believe that the government shutdown has produced a temporary budget crisis, and therefore the prudent response is not to leave things like monuments and privately-operated facilities alone (i.e. things that don't have operational overhead) but to instead create new overhead out of thin air and expend time and resources above and beyond the norm just to block people from using these things?

This is Obama being that lifeguard who would make all the kids get out of the pool for the "adult swim" even when there were no adults there to use the pool.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 04, 2013, 07:27:47 PM
  This worm is gonna turn on that bunch of criminals sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 04, 2013, 10:39:50 PM
Not in time, I fear.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 05, 2013, 09:49:35 AM
Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was "closed" due to the shutdown. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown)

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Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban. Of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.


How much more proof do people need that the Feds have been allowed to insert themselves into every damn thing and that this must stop?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 10:19:46 AM
The government is openly turning against the people. It could not be more clear. They're giving us the middle finger and daring us to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 05, 2013, 10:20:16 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/04/priests-threatened-with-arrest-if-they-minister-to-military-during-shutdown/#ixzz2grCxB8If (http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/04/priests-threatened-with-arrest-if-they-minister-to-military-during-shutdown/#ixzz2grCxB8If)

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“With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer,” wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. “During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.”

Because of the lack of active-duty Catholic chaplains, the military relies on hiring civilian priests to serve as government service and contract ministers. Those civilian priests are not allowed on the bases during a shutdown, Schlageter wrote.

One Republican lawmaker on the House Intelligence Committee told The Daily Caller on Friday that this “crosses a constitutional line.”

“The constitutional rights of those who put their lives on the line for this nation do not end with a government slowdown,” Kansas Rep. Mike Pompeo, a graduate of West Point and an Army veteran, said in a Friday statement. ”It is completely irresponsible for the president to turn his back on every American’s First Amendment rights by furloughing military contract clergy.”

Added Pompeo: “The President’s strategy during the slowdown, just as during the sequestration, is to create as much pain as possible. However, this action crosses a constitutional line of obstructing every U.S. service member’s ability to practice his or her religion.”

Well, what are y'all going to do about it?

I see the Park Police acting like Brownshirts and this does not bode well.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 10:27:14 AM
Those clergy or their members need to be making an emergency petition to the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 01:43:09 PM
just saw this on twitter:
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BREAKING: House approves resolution to allow chaplains to minister during shut down



N.B.: This post has been updated since the initial posting.

 The United States House of Representatives voted today to allow military chaplains to minister to the members of the armed forces on military during the government "shut down."

 Representative Doug Collins (R-George) introduced the resolution which was approved by a vote of 400-1, with 30 no votes; Representative Bill Enyart (D-Illinois) - a retired General - was the only member to vote against the resolution.  Of those not voting, 16 are Republicans and 14 are Democrats.

 If your Representative voted in favor of the resolution, please be certain to thank him or her and be sure to encourage your Senators to also vote in favor of it!

 Now we will see what the United States Senate will do with the legislation.

link (http://dzehnle.blogspot.com/2013/10/breaking-house-approves-resolution-to.html?spref=tw)
 

looking for an update

no major media reporting this yet
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 01:46:26 PM
Quote
A priest at the Naval Amphibious Base in Little Creek, Va., was told he could not celebrate Mass on base because of the government shutdown. So he discovered a way to circumvent the ban.

“He’s having Mass in a local park off base,” the archbishop said.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/?intcmp=latestnews)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall. (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/more-veterans-removed-at-vietnam-war-memorial/)

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 02:07:45 PM
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall. (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/more-veterans-removed-at-vietnam-war-memorial/)

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.

This has to stop!!!

this is from a few weeks ago when shutting down something was not permitted:
Quote
A rejection letter written by a National Park Service official to one of the event [9/11 biker rally] organizers said that many area roads would have had to be closed in order to grant a no-stop permit, resulting “in severe disruption of traffic.”
link (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/11/thousands-of-motorcyclists-ride-to-remember-911-in-d-c/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: OldSailor on October 05, 2013, 06:24:51 PM
Unbelievable!

Barack Obama brought out the German Sheperds today to threaten US veterans at the Vietnam Memorial.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/outrage-obama-brings-out-german-shepherds-to-threaten-us-veterans/ack (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/outrage-obama-brings-out-german-shepherds-to-threaten-us-veterans/ack) Obama brought out the German Sheperds today to threaten US veterans at the Vietnam Memorial.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 05, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Hmm...the phrase "Effing piece of Ghetto Trash" comes to mind. Petulant, vindictive little bitch (and Michelle ain't no picnic neither!).
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: OldSailor on October 05, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Gee Pablo, why don't you break down and tell us how you really feel eh?   ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 05, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
  My son in laws brother is a park cop and he and most of them are pissed off having to do this since the only people not working are office people no cop is off during this mess.But the higher ups are closer to the political end of this and orders flow down hill.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 05, 2013, 09:26:25 PM
I think it would be very fitting and a perfect photo op if someone hung a wrought iron "ARBEIT MACHT FREI" on the barricades around the WWII memorial.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 05, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
I really wish that y'all would provide translations.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 05, 2013, 09:32:19 PM
It's the German statement that was on the iron gates of the concentration camps. "Work Makes (you) Free". They seem to have a blindspot on the optics of this.  Putting barriers and wire around the memorial dedicated to the men who fought in the war that liberated people who had been forced behind barriers and wire.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 05, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
Now they're preventing Vietnam Vets from visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall. (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/more-veterans-removed-at-vietnam-war-memorial/)

These sons of bitches should be dragged from their hallowed halls and dealt with commensurate with their offense. This is intolerable.

Gee whiz. Careful, friend...you'll, uhm...rattle my delicate sensibilities & shake my firm belief in love for my fellow man... ;D

(or is it simply a case of personal deja vu???)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 05, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Blog%20Art/ShutDown_zps39447222.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/gablabs/media/2013%20Blog%20Art/ShutDown_zps39447222.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Sorry Sailor, I'm gonna merge this with the other thread we've got going re; "Shutdown Theater".
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 10:41:23 PM
Quote
Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/226557661.html (http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/226557661.html)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
How can this be viewed as anything other than an act of war?

If I was their County Sheriff I would be escorting them back to their home with a shouldered rifle, and I would arrest any federal agent who dared to interfere.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 05, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
I don't understand how this qualifies as a shutdown.

Closed office buildings with people not going in to work--that's a shutdown.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Predator Don on October 06, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
So much for the no bullying campaigns. It's simple. Cause as much pain as humanly possible. There s no other reason to kick homeowners out of their homes, I don't care what type of land it is. 
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 06, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
How can this be viewed as anything other than an act of war?

It CAN'T.

Quote
If I was their County Sheriff I would be escorting them back to their home with a shouldered rifle, and I would arrest any federal agent who dared to interfere.

Yes.  And I was thinking the same thought about the Inn in western NC.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 06, 2013, 10:20:41 AM
How can this be viewed as anything other than an act of war?

It CAN'T.

Quote
If I was their County Sheriff I would be escorting them back to their home with a shouldered rifle, and I would arrest any federal agent who dared to interfere.

Yes.  And I was thinking the same thought about the Inn in western NC.

To be successful, it seems to me that resistance of this nature would ultimately need to have the blessings of a governor and state police. The County Sheriff is the most local elected official, but resistance would be less likely to succeed if you had to fight not only the federal government, but the state police and your own governor.

Bottom line: the efforts to resist are noble and necessary, wherever they occur. But we need more than the state of Wisconsin to vocally and actionably oppose these acts of war against the people by this illegitimate regime.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 06, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
The Optics on this are so bad I wonder if they aren't trying to get the civil war started.  If TPTB know what they are doing, then its the only reasonable explanation.  So if this event goes off as planned (http://1mvetmarch.wordpress.com//) with any real participation you have a setup that either makes the regime looks stupid and weak, or a Tienanmen Square event involving vets trying to access their memorials over the objects of the petty tyrant willing to deploy tanks or other military assets against them. If the Vets come armed, the chances of a real battle breaking out are probably pretty good.  Perhaps the regime thinks this will concentrate the people who would form a liberty resistance and this is a "decapitation" move.

This bolsters the "goal is to fragment America, not control it" theory. A regime aiming at totalitarian control would simply not set up the optics this way.  They can't afford it. They need to have the appearance of legitimacy to maintain order, and this makes them looks about as illegitimate and petty as possible. TPTB may simply want America off the world stage, and perhaps attacking us after we have weakened ourselves- if we get to a point where they don't think there will be a credible nuke retaliation to a surprise strike possibly with EMP.  With this weeks events, I think a civil war has now passed the point of being inevitable. They may be trying to force the confrontation now because the economy really is getting close to nosediving and want the excuse to start using military assets against the population - again not with the goal of actually controlling, but with the goal of destroying all control structures.

Or it could simply be TPTB share the insane hubris of their Puppets Obama, Pelosi and Reid, and really think they can maintain control.  Liberals are dumb that way .. no they would really start shooting over and access to a memorial would they? I mean who cares about a small tax on tea.

They have no understanding go morality or the principals that drive it and therefore simply can't understand that anyone would be willing  die over such little things. The phrase "Liberty or Death" is utterly non-nonsensical to them. "What good is liberty of you are dead?"  they think-- being too self centered to understand anything idea  is bigger than their own egos.  We see our potential death in a fight for liberty as helping to secure liberty for those we leave behind - our children, our wives, and the future human race. The last, best hope. Lefties say they fight for that perfect Marxist  "Utopian society" but they really do not - they fight to have free stuff, for the feel-good ego boost of "caring", to have their ideas and values imposed upon others, for the power trip of being superior and making others obey them. I hope that really is their motivation driver and goal.  If they do this out of hubris rather than calculation, we have a good chance of serving justice upon them. 

If you still support the regime at this point, you are a traitor- not to the United States, but to all of civilization and decency. If you think giving control of healthcare over to an institution so petty and corrupt that it would kick people from their homes out of simple and malignant  spite is a good idea, then you simply don't deserve to live. There can be no question now that the Healthcare law would be used to persecute others, just as the IRS has been . At this point if you support the regime, you support using govt power in the same way the Nazis used it - to exterminate those you find undesirable, and you deserve no mercy.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Maddy on October 06, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
And let's not forget to shut down...the ocean!

Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown)

(http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/Obamas/obama-bodysurfing.jpg)

<snip>

Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was "closed" due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban... of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.


This is governing by temper-tantrum. It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it.

At least that Memorial is an actual structure, with some kind of perimeter that can be fenced off. Florida Bay is the ocean. How, pray tell, do you "close" 1,100 square miles of ocean? Why would one even need to do so?

Apparently, according to an anonymous Park Service ranger, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

Centuries ago, King Canute famously failed to command the ocean tide to stop. His display was actually a means to educate his subjects on the limits of royal power. Today, however, our President actually believes he has the power to control the oceans. </snip>
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 06, 2013, 01:25:32 PM
Rushmore road closing done right.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2013%20Blog%20Art/GhettoTrash_zpsd8956684.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Maddy on October 06, 2013, 01:36:39 PM
Nice  ;D
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Maddy on October 06, 2013, 01:42:34 PM
Families throw off the cones at Badlands National Park in South Dakota

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV2z_9xCIAAPLt0.jpg)

Tax-paying, hard-working families aren’t letting White House shutdown politics stop them from enjoying America’s beauty. They’re defying the orange cones at Mount Rushmore. They’re breaching the barrycades at Zion National Park. And now, the Badlands of South Dakota.

Noelle Bruno tweets that she and her family made it through Mount Rushmore despite the White House obstacle. Read more...http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/ (http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 06, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
  Get his attention<CLOSE THE GOLF COURSES HE SO DEARLY LOVES.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 06, 2013, 04:14:30 PM


Noelle Bruno tweets that she and her family made it through Mount Rushmore despite the White House obstacle. Read more...http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/ (http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/)



This what it takes.

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 06, 2013, 04:22:24 PM


Noelle Bruno tweets that she and her family made it through Mount Rushmore despite the White House obstacle. Read more...http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/ (http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/families-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota/)



This what it takes.


 Sometimes we have to remember that in the end they work for us ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 06, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
These are our parks and monuments.

BO is so stupid  arrogant he thinks he can close the outdoors!

It seems to me that the ones doing all the bashing about the shutdown are the liberals.  Sanders tweeted that it's clear that the dems won on Obamacare and that the GOP is causing the shutdown.  The WH is purposely trying to hurt Americans who aren't his supporters. It's not the veterans and vacationers complaining about the shutdown.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 06, 2013, 05:41:33 PM
WIN-WIN

Administration lawyers OK return of furloughed civilian Pentagon workers (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/06/pentagon-orders-400000-furloughed-civilian-employees-back-to-work=)

Daughter gets to go back to work tomorrow AND shutdown still going on.

(Such a joke considering that leaves 400,000 furloughed which is not exactly a shutdown.)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 06, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/image_zpsa66c7518.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 06, 2013, 06:07:29 PM
That's pretty much how I feel.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2013, 10:03:43 PM
People need to storm these sites and defy the Dictator in DC.  More resistance is called for, civil disobedience on a massive scale, the statists have to be forced to back down or to go full-thug and expose themselves for what they are.  Enough of this BS.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: richb on October 06, 2013, 11:47:40 PM
  Get his attention<CLOSE THE GOLF COURSES HE SO DEARLY LOVES.

Heard his favorite course at the air force base is open.     I wouldn't be surprised if he is still golfing regularly.   Of course the lamestream wouldn't report it anyway.   

If it was so horrible for Bush to golf,  why is ok for Barry?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 06, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
  Get his attention<CLOSE THE GOLF COURSES HE SO DEARLY LOVES.

Heard his favorite course at the air force base is open.     I wouldn't be surprised if he is still golfing regularly.   Of course the lamestream wouldn't report it anyway.   

If it was so horrible for Bush to golf,  why is ok for Barry?

If it weren't for the double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all. 6% unemployment under Bush was bad too.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: richb on October 07, 2013, 02:59:27 AM
Yup,   golf course at Andrews Air Force base is open.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-03/troops-forage-for-food-while-golfers-play-on-in-shutdown.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-03/troops-forage-for-food-while-golfers-play-on-in-shutdown.html)

But on base grocery stores and commissaries are not........

Go figure....................
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 07, 2013, 03:22:20 AM
BO is so stupid  arrogant he thinks he can close the outdoors!

Our petty and vindictive President Hissy Fit.  Spending money to close memorials that cost nothing to keep open.  Spending priorities in this time of government shutdown crises, you know.  But for now, it's the Precedent's tee time, because you know his federal run golf course will not be closed.  Closings are for the people who won't adore him and give Prince Petulance Pestilence his way.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 07, 2013, 11:15:13 PM
Hey look, lo and behold the "closed" National Mall will be open for this group's rally.

Park Service OKs immigration reform rally on 'closed' National Mall (http://washingtonexaminer.com/park-service-oks-immigration-reform-rally-on-closed-national-mall/article/2536908)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 08, 2013, 02:04:08 AM
Don't get me started .......

 ::overkill::
Title: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: OldSailor on October 08, 2013, 05:30:28 AM
Did you hear about Normandy? More American troops died in one day ... the D-Day landings at Normandy, than in all of the Iraq war. Those who survived that day are dying at a rate of 600 to 900 veterans a day. Many of these men want to visit that beach – that invasion site – again, before they die. 0bama actually ordered the beach, the cemetery and the memorial at Normandy closed. These veterans spent their money to get over to France to visit what they consider to be hallowed ground – and their president, their Commander-in-Chief, had ordered the site closed. That is vicious behavior … vicious, thuggish behavior.

There’s more … more of the pettiness and vindictiveness of President Zero:

• Around the country there are people who live in their own private homes which happened to be located on federal lands. They own these homes on these plots of ground through contractural agreements with the federal government. 0bama has ordered that these people be denied access to their homes during the shutdown.

• You already know how the Park Service has cordoned off the open air, open access monuments and memorials on the Washington Mall. No fences or other barriors anywhere ... until this "shutdown" began. I can tell you for a fact that none of them were closed off during any of the previous 17 shutdowns.

• On the state highways around the Mount Rushmore National Monument in South Dakota you will find turnouts. These are places where you can leave the highway and park to get a view of Mount Rushmore. 0bama has ordered the park service to close these turnoffs ... and the orange cones went up. These are not federal roads ... they’re state roads. But you can see Mount Rushmore, so these turnoffs had to be closed.

• You know what Amber alerts are, don’t you? You can get alerts over radio, on your cell phone and over the Internet about abducted minor children. Well … not the Internet. That’s a federally operated website, so it has been shut down. Is it possible that some abducted child will not be found in time? Yeah ... it’s possible, but then again 0bama has instructed that the shutdown be made to be as painful as possible. What’s one child when it comes to 0bama’s power and agenda?

Has any of this been done in any of the previous 17 government shutdowns? I don't think so.

Is this all going to turn around to hurt 0bama? I hope so. I hope it blows up in his face.


Title: Re: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: RickZ on October 08, 2013, 05:44:45 AM
The Praetorian Guard media will be there with presidential seal embossed knee pads on, haughtily shoving (shoveling?) aside all criticism of President Hissy Fit.

/The motto of the Feinstein approved reporters:  If it's not covered, it never happened.

//Oh, and how's that golf game on federal property going, Sport?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 07:40:53 AM
Wetbacks crossing the reflecting pool to demand rights they didn't earn and they get a free pass while veterans who fought and bled for freedom get locked out?

Some sh*t needs to be kicked over this!!!
Title: Re: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 07:43:50 AM
If there is any justice left to be had in this world an epic amount of pain should befall this SCoaMF and everyone in his lawless Regime!!!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 08, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
The list..  (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for-shutdown)

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 08, 2013, 09:59:11 AM
anything that directly touches the public is closed (I think it's safe to assume BO's supporters don't go to national parks?), and it seems anyone who directly deals with the public is furloughed (though the chaplains don't deal with the public so that's just being mean)

maybe this will teach some more people -- do not trust the government

You really want the government in charge?

You really think the government wants to help you?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 08, 2013, 10:34:12 AM
I was just looking at this new affront, included in your list, on Fox News ....

"34. Feds Shut Down Major Roadway, Puts Children's Lives at Risk - "Nearly a third of Blount County is inside the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So when the federal government shut down the park, it also shut down one of the area’s chief sources of revenue.

"The children live in the eastern Tennessee community of Top of the World – serviced by School Bus 49. Normally, the bus travels along the Foothills Parkway. Other roads leading to the isolated mountain community are impassible by bus.

"“It’s dangerous,” said Nancy Kemp, the spokesperson for Blount County Schools.”It’s very curvy and straight up the mountain. It’s just not a safe route.”"

The GOP have offered compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto."
- See more at: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for-shutdown#sthash.DOr786eL.dpuf (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for-shutdown#sthash.DOr786eL.dpuf)

The NPS shut the road while the kids were at school, leaving parents scrambling around for a way to get them home.  And the school bus will not run until the shutdown is over.

Further:

"Local residents have become so frustrated they actually devised a plan to circumvent the feds.

“We already had the codes on the gates and we were getting ready to open it up without notifying them,” the mayor said. “Wiser heads prevailed.”

... “There are laws,” the mayor said. “As radical as some things can be, I don’t know if you want to stop over that line or not.”"

Wiser heads?  Step over that line?

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!  The Feds, and their Brownshirts in every damn state, have already done that.  To YOU!

Arrrggghhh.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 08, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
Quote
WASHINGTON (AP) — A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (BAY-nur) says President Barack Obama has called the speaker to say he still won't negotiate on ending the partial government shutdown or raising the nation's debt limit.

Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck says the call took place Tuesday morning.
link (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-calls-boehner-says-he-still-wont-negotiate)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 08, 2013, 10:59:54 AM
If I may add a little more of this to the tread...

(http://www.hobowars.com/images/items/gifs/Gasoline.gif)

Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone (http://www.eagletribune.com/local/x1442580353/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone)

It takes a while to load (as it's probably going viral) but worth it.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 11:46:22 AM
And for example, from the list Weisshaupt posted -

27. Miramar Air Show Canceled With One-Day Notice -“The emotional and economic impacts of losing this year’s event are great, and I’m extremely disappointed in the political dysfunction that brought us to this point,” Gloria said.

"Proceeds from the event go to programs that support families of military personnel, he said."

Not just that, do you know how many private outfits, sponsors and volunteers involved in these?  Not just the performers, lots and lots of people.

1 fricken day notice?

A lot of this bullsplatter is going to have consequences and repurcussions for Obama...at least it damn well should if people's brains reside north of their ass!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 11:47:46 AM
Quote
WASHINGTON (AP) — A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (BAY-nur) says President Barack Obama has called the speaker to say he still won't negotiate on ending the partial government shutdown or raising the nation's debt limit.

Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck says the call took place Tuesday morning.
link (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-calls-boehner-says-he-still-wont-negotiate)

Beneath the office I know, but I couldn't help calling a press conference and basically telling Emperor Obama to KMA!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
If I may add a little more of this to the tread...

(http://www.hobowars.com/images/items/gifs/Gasoline.gif)

Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone (http://www.eagletribune.com/local/x1442580353/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone)

It takes a while to load (as it's probably going viral) but worth it.

Is this for real?

Seriously?

If true people are gonna have to start arming up and shooting back or just ask to have the manacles put on and accept servitude!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 08, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
the rest of the article says BO said it's not his job to negotiate --that's Congress' job

BS

he's said he'll veto even if Senate were to pass
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 08, 2013, 12:50:37 PM
Here's a take home lesson for all these states and local communities: you think just maybe it's not a great idea to have the Federal tentacles in every damn thing done anywhere? A lot of these parks and monuments could just as easily, probably even better, be run by the states or local government. Or private non-profit trusts.

This is exactly why the Feds have inserted themselves into every mundane aspect of public policy at even the lowest levels. They have done it so that nothing can get done without their blessing, and implied in that is the state and local governments appearing before them with hat in hand to kiss the royal ring.

I won't get my hopes up, but these episodes taking place all over the country should be an instructive lesson against letting the Feds in. Maybe think twice when DC dangles that money (that was taken from your local economy in the first place)? I remember taking a basic political science class in college, for general ed requirements, and the professor talked about how American federalism used to be the layer cake model, with each layer of government neatly confined to its own realm. He glowingly approved of the fact that American federalism had been reinvented to the marble cake model, without layers anymore but instead all intermixed.

The states created this Federal government to serve their interests, and by extension ours. It's like the blood eating plant from Little Shop of Horrors. Once contained and dependent, but it devoured so much blood that it grew massive and began calling the shots over its caretakers.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 08, 2013, 01:15:08 PM
I think it's so funny when I hear people complaining that their elected officials aren't doing anything--"I sent them there to do something!"  I am delighted when they're "not doing anything".

Title: Re: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: warpmine on October 08, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
If there is any justice left to be had in this world an epic amount of pain should befall this SCoaMF and everyone in his lawless Regime!!!
My thoughts as well. ::praying::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 08, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
Hey look, lo and behold the "closed" National Mall will be open for this group's rally.

Park Service OKs immigration reform rally on 'closed' National Mall (http://washingtonexaminer.com/park-service-oks-immigration-reform-rally-on-closed-national-mall/article/2536908)

 They must be the right color!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: benb61 on October 08, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
Will the shepple wake up because of this, I don't think so.  Shame really, maybe they will wake up when the shooting starts.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: John Florida on October 08, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
   Take notice that none of those politicians went neat the vetrans memorial.
Title: 'Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone
Post by: OldSailor on October 08, 2013, 08:35:07 PM
'Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone

NEWBURYPORT — Pat Vaillancourt went on a trip last week that was intended to showcase some of America’s greatest treasures.

Instead, the Salisbury resident said she and others on her tour bus witnessed an ugly spectacle that made her embarrassed, angry and heartbroken for her country.

Vaillancourt was one of thousands of people who found themselves in a national park as the federal government shutdown went into effect on Oct. 1. For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard.

The tourists were treated harshly by armed park employees, she said, so much so that some of the foreign tourists with limited English skills thought they were under arrest.

See more at: http://www.newburyportnews.com/local/x1442580373/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone#sthash.ywmAYhvL.dpuf (http://www.newburyportnews.com/local/x1442580373/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone#sthash.ywmAYhvL.dpuf)

Does anyone care to try to justify this outrage?    >:(

Thought not.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: trapeze on October 08, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
The thing is:

1) No reporter will ever ask the administration, let alone the president, about this and even if they did dare to ask,

2) The administration will just lie about it...say that it never happened or that, if it did happen, it must have been Ted Cruz who did it and then,

3) The press will dutifully take notes and report it verbatim.

So.

Here we are.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 08, 2013, 09:37:06 PM
The president recently said (referring to Congress) "We don't do those sorts of things in America". And, in fairness, the president himself has done some things in America that we don't do in America.

Now obviously there are things we do do in America and things we don't do in America. Perhaps a good strategy for dealing with these 2 categories would be:

Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 08, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
Hanh?!  Nevermind.

There are things we do in America that haven't been done in some time in America that definitely need doing in America ... right THE HELL NOW.

/I need to cut my fingernails, I can't type.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: trapeze on October 08, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
But the thing with the seniors on the bus @ Yellowstone was truly despicable. Someone needs to be held accountable for this stuff. Someone gave the order for this to happen and they need to be held accountable. Several someones followed those orders, orders which should have been disregarded by anyone with even a shred of decency, and they need to be held accountable. If I knew someone personally who was involved with this situation I would not be able to associate with them ever again. They would be unfriended for realsies.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 08, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
But the thing with the seniors on the bus @ Yellowstone was truly despicable. Someone needs to be held accountable for this stuff. Someone gave the order for this to happen and they need to be held accountable. Several someones followed those orders, orders which should have been disregarded by anyone with even a shred of decency, and they need to be held accountable. If I knew someone personally who was involved with this situation I would not be able to associate with them ever again. They would be unfriended for realsies.

Foreigners are now regarding the USA the same way you would a banana republic, and they're not far off the mark either. It's 2 parts anger, 1 part embarrassment for me. Imagine you spend thousands of dollars, travel across an ocean to visit this country and that's what you are subjected to.

We say it almost every day here, but man this is really not our country anymore. I never thought it possible it could change this rapidly. I mean it has changed significantly just since 2008 in the demeanor, the vibe, the posture. I don't recognize it in many ways.

Reflect on the fact that to Obama and his enablers, this is their "Mission Accomplished" moment: to bring America down, make it an insignificant also-ran, a laughingstock, a pariah. And it's only going to get worse with every new day. Realize that every day is probably the best it's going to be, with every day thereafter progressively worse. All on purpose. All by design.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2013, 12:48:05 AM
Oh and by the way, is it starting to make a little more sense now why all these unlikely government agencies have been buying up millions of rounds of ammo?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 09, 2013, 12:50:33 AM
Oh and by the way, is it starting to make a little more sense now why all these unlikely government agencies have been buying up millions of rounds of ammo?

Always made sense, was never a mystery, just now seeing the plan put into action.

Nudge is over.  Shove is happening.  Shoot is eminent.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ToddF on October 09, 2013, 08:18:42 AM
People over seas really do see us as a joke, now.  Three years ago my wife's friends would feel me out, mention Obama, hear me say NO, and really not get it, because they had the same fawning media coverage we had.

Now?  I'd get the initial feel out and then the floodgates would break loose.  My wife has a lawyer friend that's as up on things here as we are, and sees things the same way.  It's fascinating listening to him compare contrast with where the Philippines is moving under a very Bush like leader, to us moving in the opposite direction.   You pick up the Manila Bulletin and read story after story about corrupt politicians getting busted, thanks to a societal push to clean up their politics.  Here?  Well, on CBS News I learned who the sexiest woman alive, is.  I did not see any stories about the monument shut downs.  I actually had to watch the BBC in Hong Kong, as my only other choices were Russia Today, CCTV, and Al-Gorezeera.  They're laughing at us on the BBC, literally.

Yes, they know we're turning into a banana republic.  No, they're not gloating, in Asia anyway.  They don't want to see us do that just as we here don't want to see it, as our banana republic actions have been jerking around their markets, also.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 09, 2013, 09:35:31 AM
I agree with Trap.  Anyone of those park police (whatever they are) could decide this is BS and I'm not doing this to my fellow citizens.  Yes, he might lose his job but he might also find others agree and they're waiting for a leader too.

I saw a picture last year from WWII.  It was of men (whom I assume were Nazis) leading a large group of citizens down a street.  The people were dressed as if they were going out for a walk. The picture really bothered me.  I felt sad for the people as they had no idea what their fate was going to be but I was bothered more by the men leading them.  They weren't dressed in uniforms and looked like the other people except they walked away from the group and were obviously leading them down the street.

I bet everyone of them would've said they were just doing their job.

Each thing BO gets away with is a prerequisite for the next thing.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: benb61 on October 09, 2013, 09:37:13 AM
But the thing with the seniors on the bus @ Yellowstone was truly despicable. Someone needs to be held accountable for this stuff. Someone gave the order for this to happen and they need to be held accountable. Several someones followed those orders, orders which should have been disregarded by anyone with even a shred of decency, and they need to be held accountable. If I knew someone personally who was involved with this situation I would not be able to associate with them ever again. They would be unfriended for realsies.

Had I been the bus driver I would have forced the evil Park Ranger to either shoot or call for reinforcements all the while telling the seniors to keep their videos rolling.  Can you imagine if that Ranger pulled the trigger?  That would have been our Bunker Hill.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2013, 01:16:19 PM
A Yellowstone Massacre might be what it takes...better stand up now or stay on your knees forever!
Title: Re: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2013, 11:47:18 AM
(http://www.imao.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/20131008SteveKelley-450x345.jpg)

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/10/cartoon-of-the-day-business/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2013/10/cartoon-of-the-day-business/)
Title: Re: More examples of the vindictiveness of Obama
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2013, 11:52:58 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/10/armed-guards-stop-people-from-visiting-independence-hall-you-will-be-arrested/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/10/armed-guards-stop-people-from-visiting-independence-hall-you-will-be-arrested/)

You tellin' me there are no hairy-chested men in Philly to shove these assholes aside?  Is that what you tellin' me?  Or are you tellin' me nobody in that town gives a sh*t?  It is Philly, not giving a sh*t about statist thugs seems entirely possible...they went what?  125% for O'Bongo both times?

 ::effu::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 10, 2013, 12:43:44 PM
Merged for the sake of tidiness and continuity; IDP
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 10, 2013, 01:08:05 PM
The inn on the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC has reopened:  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/09/businesses-forced-to-close-during-slimdown-fight-for-rights-reopen/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/09/businesses-forced-to-close-during-slimdown-fight-for-rights-reopen/)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 10, 2013, 01:08:15 PM
At Independence Hall, Philadelphia: a dozen armed guards w/SUV's. (cross-posted on 'Police State')

Hired Goons at Independence Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N078jMaPA5M#)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 10, 2013, 01:39:49 PM
What must it be like to be one of these people? When you look in the mirror and say "Yep. I earn my living by harassing 90 year old war heroes at open air monuments, and holding foreign tourists at gunpoint as virtual prisoners in a national park lodge."

Same with the TSA groping people in the airport security theater. At what point is "It's just a job" no longer a mitigating circumstance? I could never treat people the way they do, I have too much of a sense of shame and embarrassment. I can guarantee you the moment the duties of my "job" became "forcefully removing WWII veterans from the memorial" I would quit, or force them to fire me.
Title: Re: Willing to take my whoopin' from the group....But, I think GOP strategy ok
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 10, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Willing to take my whoopin' from the group....But, I think GOP strategy ok.

The debt limit is really meaningless. The real fight and focus needs to STAY on the effort to defund Obamacare. The enstupidification of America is too far along for most voters, let alone most citizens, to focus on all of it. This one line can be drawn and it can be one. Ted Cruz has done a masterful job of articulating the issue.
Title: Re: Willing to take my whoopin' from the group....But, I think GOP strategy ok
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 10, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
Willing to take my whoopin' from the group....But, I think GOP strategy ok.

The debt limit is really meaningless. The real fight and focus needs to STAY on the effort to defund Obamacare. The enstupidification of America is too far along for most voters, let alone most citizens, to focus on all of it. This one line can be drawn and it can be one. Ted Cruz has done a masterful job of articulating the issue.

I'm having a difficult time discerning exactly what (if any) strategy is being employed by the GOP.

I'm with Cruz, if only because the party will not do what must be done. But beyond that, I don't see a strategy.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on October 10, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
The focus on defund, delay, defang Obamacare is the right place to be. Ted is being a leader here. But, it needs to stay focused on the FUNDING side. Opening a battle on the other front is a tactical error. It may be moral, but it will lose in the end. We can raise the debt limit, and still refuse to fund anything that is not good. The power is going out of the Democratic sails. There is really not pain except that which they are manufacturing and even the stupid people are slowly figuring that out.
We must not allow a subject change. Pass the SHORT-Term increase. Then FOCUS on the Funding of one portion of government at a time. Every sick child that is marched in front of a camera for sympathy can have his own bill named after him. Let the Senate block it. Make the President veto it. But, let every American FACE the fact it is the Dems that want suffering. The Dems want us in pain. Their power DEPENDS on it.
This can win and it WILL if we do not let the two issues get tied together. IF we let them get tied up as one issue, I think we lose...badly...again.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 10, 2013, 02:40:35 PM
Seeing the thugs line up to close open spaces makes me wonder if we won't soon see the reason the guv had to buy all that ammo for agencies that one wouldn't think needed it
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 10, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
I see now that Boehner is offering a short-term debt ceiling increase in exchange for Obama negotiating on the shutdown.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 10, 2013, 03:25:48 PM
What must it be like to be one of these people? When you look in the mirror and say "Yep. I earn my living by harassing 90 year old war heroes at open air monuments, and holding foreign tourists at gunpoint as virtual prisoners in a national park lodge."

Same with the TSA groping people in the airport security theater. At what point is "It's just a job" no longer a mitigating circumstance? I could never treat people the way they do, I have too much of a sense of shame and embarrassment. I can guarantee you the moment the duties of my "job" became "forcefully removing WWII veterans from the memorial" I would quit, or force them to fire me.
::thumbsup::
I guess the "job" means more than anything else.  But consider most of them don't know any better.  Go-along-to-get-along is the mantra today and stay with the herd.  From pre-pre-school to grad school people are shepherded from one thing to the next.  There is no independent thinking. There is no shame in doing what the group does!

I also think that many people have never had to make any kind of sacrifices so they don't understand that choice. And people who have sacrificed (seniors) have become so used to the land of plenty they don't want to choose either.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 10, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
SHowdown! (http://www.infowars.com/report-feds-order-national-guard-to-close-i-495-to-derail-trucker-protest/)

What happens when the wacky little spoiled pot smoker in the Spite house closes I-495 with armed National Guard just as 10,000 Trucks show up to arrest him and every other American People punishing politicians?  Tune in tomorrow to find out!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 10, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
495 the only road there?

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 10, 2013, 05:13:22 PM
SHowdown! (http://www.infowars.com/report-feds-order-national-guard-to-close-i-495-to-derail-trucker-protest/)

What happens when the wacky little spoiled pot smoker in the Spite house closes I-495 with armed National Guard just as 10,000 Trucks show up to arrest him and every other American People punishing politicians?  Tune in tomorrow to find out!
We should be there running shotgun or in my case BAR gun.
If this turns out to be the case with the NG, we really need that armed rebellion, seriously do.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 10, 2013, 05:13:37 PM
SHowdown! (http://www.infowars.com/report-feds-order-national-guard-to-close-i-495-to-derail-trucker-protest/)

What happens when the wacky little spoiled pot smoker in the Spite house closes I-495 with armed National Guard just as 10,000 Trucks show up to arrest him and every other American People punishing politicians?  Tune in tomorrow to find out!

I've read in more than one place that this isn't a legitimate report. There've been a flurry of these lately.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 10, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
SHowdown! (http://www.infowars.com/report-feds-order-national-guard-to-close-i-495-to-derail-trucker-protest/)

What happens when the wacky little spoiled pot smoker in the Spite house closes I-495 with armed National Guard just as 10,000 Trucks show up to arrest him and every other American People punishing politicians?  Tune in tomorrow to find out!

I've read in more than one place that this isn't a legitimate report. There've been a flurry of these lately.

It was cross-posted at RedState and the author freely admits it was intended as satire .... in the comments.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 10, 2013, 07:29:36 PM

It was cross-posted at RedState and the author freely admits it was intended as satire .... in the comments.

And the problem with Satire and this administration is.. its impossible to do. Its entirely possible that the Boy-King  would attempt this. But its probably easier just to record all of the Commercial truck licenses and have them revoked. You can bet the petty tyrant won't let it go.
 


Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 10, 2013, 07:34:05 PM
Would someone please explain satire to these people?
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 10, 2013, 09:25:13 PM

It was cross-posted at RedState and the author freely admits it was intended as satire .... in the comments.

And the problem with Satire and this administration is.. its impossible to do. Its entirely possible that the Boy-King  would attempt this. But its probably easier just to record all of the Commercial truck licenses and have them revoked. You can bet the petty tyrant won't let it go.
 

Exactly the author's point.

But, LV's right; that wasn't satire as properly understood.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 11, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
H/T: Moonbattery


Wyoming Bison vs. The Obama Shutdown


Wyoming Bison vs. Government Shutdown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJqmStnPvEw#)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2013, 08:17:45 AM
Arrest them!  Terrorists!  Anarchists!  Damned Tea Party Bison!!!

 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 14, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
Sometimes you spew the bull, sometimes the bull spews back.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2013, 02:26:56 PM
Heartless Republicans to blame for another victim of the shutdown: Mooch's garden at the White House.

http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/sweet/michelle-obamas-white-house-garden-a-weed-filled-wreck-victim-of-shutdown/ (http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/sweet/michelle-obamas-white-house-garden-a-weed-filled-wreck-victim-of-shutdown/)


(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff269/halo707/Forums/51JslS4E7UL_SS500_-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 15, 2013, 03:00:59 PM
Quote
only a “skeletal crew of National Park Service gardeners..remain on duty,”

the rest are banishing guns and setting up barrycades

you know the important stuff
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: richb on October 15, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
Quote
only a “skeletal crew of National Park Service gardeners..remain on duty,”


I wonder what this "garden" costs taxpayers otherwise.   Plenty, I am sure.   Hope the next president has enough sense to turn that "garden" back into lawn,  like it should be.   Not that I don't like gardens,  but lets be clear,  Michele isn't out there pulling weeds and picking vegetables.    She doesn't give a d@#n about it, as you can see in the pictures posted on that blog.  If she did,  she would be out there.  When the cameras go off,  she isn't "gardening". 
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Egregious! (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terry-jeffrey/dod-still-barring-50-priests-administering-sacraments-locks-eucharist)

Quote
After the Obama administration, for the second Sunday in a row, continued to prohibit approximately 50 Catholic priests from saying Mass and administering other sacraments at U.S. military facilities around the world, Father Ray Leonard, who serves as the Catholic chaplain at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia, filed suit Monday against the Department of Defense, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, the Department of the Navy, and Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.

DOD is prohibiting Father Leonard and the other Catholic priests from administering the sacraments and providing other services to their congregations even though two weeks ago Congress passed, and President Barack Obama signed, a law that instructed DOD to maintain on the job and keep paying contract employees who were supporting the troops.

DOD took this action because Hagel determined--after consulting with Attorney General Eric Holder's Justice Department--that civilian Catholic priests, working under contract as chaplains, did not, among other things, “contribute to the morale” and “well-being” of service personnel.

... “The doors to the Kings Bay Chapel were locked on October 4, 2013, with the Holy Eucharist, Holy water, Catholic hymn books, and vessels all locked inside,” said Father Leonard’s lawsuit.

... And although DOD locked the chapel against a Catholic priest and his congregation, it opened the chapel to members of other denominations.

"The Kings Bay Chapel remains open to other faiths and is being used for their religious services," says the lawsuit. "The Department of Defense has allowed the Protestant community to continue their services in the chapel during the government shutdown, without threat of penalty."

"On October 7, 2013," says the suit, "Father Leonard was informed that he was not permitted to even visit the chapel or his office on the Naval Base."

These priests NEED TO GO AND GET THEMSELVES ARRESTED!!
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 15, 2013, 06:16:53 PM
yes, they do
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: warpmine on October 15, 2013, 09:21:57 PM
Quote
only a “skeletal crew of National Park Service gardeners..remain on duty,”


I wonder what this "garden" costs taxpayers otherwise.   Plenty, I am sure.   Hope the next president has enough sense to turn that "garden" back into lawn,  like it should be.   Not that I don't like gardens,  but lets be clear,  Michele isn't out there pulling weeds and picking vegetables.    She doesn't give a d@#n about it, as you can see in the pictures posted on that blog.  If she did,  she would be out there.  When the cameras go off,  she isn't "gardening".
And you and I both know the First Wookie, isn't skilled enough to pick up a hoe or for that matter, work gloves. It was all a show for the limited minds of the morons that voted and cheated for these assholes to gain access to the Spite House. If that family had to depend on that garden for sustenance, they'd have already starved. Gardens take determination, hard work  and a desire to get something out of it none of which are qualities from the first freeloading family. ::cussing::
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 16, 2013, 03:57:02 AM
These priests NEED TO GO AND GET THEMSELVES ARRESTED!!

Not to quibble, but all of us need to get arrested.  This Government war being waged against the American people has got to stop.  Now's about the last good time to draw a line.  Massive civil protests taking back our scenery, whether it be a cemetery, a memorial or the friggin' Grand Canyon.  The Government doesn't own us or our public property, we own ourselves, our property and the damn Government.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 17, 2013, 12:15:44 PM
This is good. Whether it comes to anything, I don't know. But SC Rep. Trey Gowdy hands National Parks Director Jonathan Jarvis his ass on a silver platter and makes him eat it, by comparing the Park Service's lack of enforcing statue against "Occupiers", to erecting barricades at national monuments for no statutory reason on Day 1 of Shutdown Theater.

Trey Gowdy Berates National Parks Director for Favoring 'Pot-Smoking' Occupiers Over 'Veterans' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1T1zcLRtbI#)
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
He did it because he was ordered to not enforce the law on the OWS clowns in the one instance and because he was ordered to be a pain in the ass to veterans by a POS who is allowed to do anything he wants to no matter what law is broken and ignored.  This clown is no different in action than Himmler...and if it is allowed to continue a future Himmler will come along.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: RickZ on October 18, 2013, 04:29:59 AM
While we already knew this applied to politicians, this shut down theater has proven there are no men (or women) of good conscience in government.  None.  Bloodsuckers all.

How many employees resigned when given such BS orders?  I've not heard of one.  Men of good conscience, gone.  Apparachikville, A-OK.
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2013, 07:26:43 AM
While we already knew this applied to politicians, this shut down theater has proven there are no men (or women) of good conscience in government.  None.  Bloodsuckers all.

How many employees resigned when given such BS orders?  I've not heard of one.  Men of good conscience, gone.  Apparachikville, A-OK.

Yup.

Some people will rediscover how easily it is for idiots to hand over complete control of their lives to a dictator..others will be reminding them of the consequences of that at several hundreds of feet per second...
Title: Re: Merged: Shutdown Theater
Post by: Glock32 on October 18, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
While we already knew this applied to politicians, this shut down theater has proven there are no men (or women) of good conscience in government.  None.  Bloodsuckers all.

How many employees resigned when given such BS orders?  I've not heard of one.  Men of good conscience, gone.  Apparachikville, A-OK.

Yup.

Some people will rediscover how easily it is for idiots to hand over complete control of their lives to a dictator..others will be reminding them of the consequences of that at several hundreds of feet per second...



It's part of human nature to want to divorce oneself from responsibility and consequence. Not just in the obvious examples -- the wards of the state suckled on ill gotten gain -- but the nomenklatura too. By submitting to a strong man dictator or a massive state apparatus, they effectively (in their minds anyway) have liberated themselves from the personal responsibility and consequences of their actions. Now they can do all these things but it's not really their fault you see, no, because they were "just doing their job".

The Founders were deeply inspired by scripture, contrary to the modern revisionist effort to cast them as irreligious humanists. They were inspired by the Bible's consistent message that Man is born into sinfulness, and it is impossible for him to redeem himself without God. The best he can do is try to rein in and mitigate his sinful tendencies, and the Founders very clearly designed this republic with just that in mind. The whole system was arranged on the fundamental assumption that people are POS and they should be systematically stymied by checks and balances. Let the ambitions and prejudices of equally POS officials work against them so that neither of them can soil the entire nest. It was a really quite genius move of using Man's moral and ethical failings in service to something positive.

But of course the Devil has whispered into many ears over the generations and they have been short circuiting one failsafe after another, to undo the checks and balances and allow power to become concentrated. It can't be repaired now, the damage has already been done. It's sort of like the saying among GIs in the European Theater of WWII: the shortest way home is through Berlin. We're going to have to endure the storm and let it rain itself out before we can begin to recover from its damages.