It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on November 04, 2013, 08:35:01 PM
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I pray that harsh, swift justice is done. Some of the people involved in the deaths and cover-ups Benghazi deserve execution.
Obama “Changed Names” of Benghazi Survivors, Hiding Them From Congress (http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/changed-names/)
The Obama administration is “changing names” of the Benghazi survivors and “creating aliases” to keep them hidden from congressional investigators and the American people, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) told Greta Van Susteren on Thursday night. He also said the administration is “dispersing them around the country” to keep them out of sight.
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“Stop and think what things are most calculated to get at the truth? Talk to people with first-hand knowledge. What creates the appearance and perhaps the reality of a cover-up? Not letting us talk with people who have the most amount of information, dispersing them around the country and changing their names,” Gowdy said.
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are we looking more and more like the soviet union of late. "disappearing people" for political means? how did we come to this? I blame the right for not contesting what the left has been doing since alger hiss. we are too polite and willing to give the benefit of the doubt. the left have been no more trustworthy than al gueda or joseph stalin. it is time to look any liberal straight in the eye and call them traitors to the constitution and unwelcome inhabitants of this nation.
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It's obviously gotta be a leftist thing. No way in hell am I uprooting my family, changing our name and disrupting our lives just to save some assholes.
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Not thinking of saving any assholes at the moment...more like dispatching them by the bushel!
The America we once knew is dead, completely incapable of recognizing tyranny and oppression...they figure they got their booze, their TV, their weed, their cheeseburgers, their music, their hovel and a few coins in their pocket...wtf they care about anything else?!
Extra, super-duper deep-fried FUBAR!!!
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That has t'be a Twilight Zone moment...the POTUS
asks - tells you you're undergoing identity reassignment...& you KNOW it's for evil purposes. what do you do, whom do/can you tell - will anybody listen?
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That has t'be a Twilight Zone moment...the POTUS asks - tells you you're undergoing identity reassignment...& you KNOW it's for evil purposes. what do you do, whom do/can you tell - will anybody listen?
First thing I do is get a written order. Then I handcuff the asshole who issued it to me, then I go to my representative or the nearest constitutionalist I know then the talkshow circuit Rush etc...
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It's obviously gotta be a leftist thing. No way in hell am I uprooting my family, changing our name and disrupting our lives just to save some assholes.
Or "what are you willing to do to save your pension?"
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It's obviously gotta be a leftist thing. No way in hell am I uprooting my family, changing our name and disrupting our lives just to save some assholes.
Or "what are you willing to do to save your pension?"
We use to have servants, military and the like, with integrity. That seems to be what's missing at it's basic core. Of course, integrity goes hand in hand with morality and we're not teaching this to our future generations.
Leftists have fukced us for a longer period than I can fathom.
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Some intimidating types in suits and sunglasses tell you that you do this or we can't guarantee your family's safety--what do you do?
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From whom? Which threat? 'Cause it sure ain't the Libyans.
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From whom? Which threat? 'Cause it sure ain't the Libyans.
I'd say your own government.
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Some intimidating types in suits and sunglasses tell you that you do this or we can't guarantee your family's safety--what do you do?
Guarantee their immediate death. Bang-bang...next!
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From whom? Which threat? 'Cause it sure ain't the Libyans.
I'd say your own government.
I dunno, LV; it might be easy to say (not being in their shoes), but it seems to me that would be THE reason for going public.
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The first attempt probably went something like this;
We will put $5 million into a bank account in your name, we will give you a home and a back story in a town of our choosing, you and your family will live long if you do not tell anyone the truth.
If that is turned down, the story probably changes to this;
We will give you a new identity, and move you to a distant location. There will be 3 or more individuals (whom you will not know) in your life that have authority to terminate you and your loved ones if you ever say anything about what you have seen or know. Your/their deaths will look like accidents or you/they will be victims of an unsolvable crime. Now STFU and STFD if you know what is good for you.
If they fight that;
Bang.... So sad that they survived Benghazi but were killed in a botched convenience store robbery.
What would you do???
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I see on these commercials for the Marines that they answer the call of those under tyranny...if that were really the case they'd be landing on all points along the Potomac and cleaning DC of these fascists...
Oh well, so sad too bad...y'all on your own...
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Been thinking about the name-change thing.
Someone doing this doesn't sound like someone who will willingly step down from office once his term has expired.
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Sounds about right Pablo.
This instance makes the WI fleebaggers issue look like a bunch of boyscouts on jamboree...
Such actions by an executive should have been automatic grounds for immediate impeachment, swift trial and conviction and forcible removal from office.
See what I mean about being "Extra, super-duper deep-fried FUBAR!!!"?!
If people cannot see the obvious and dangerous precedent of letting actions like this stand, in addition to the IRS intimidation, the NSA/DHS snooping, the F&F and larger Libyan-Syrian gunrunning, the sacking of hundreds of senior military leaders, the installation of radical left-wing ideologues throughout government, etc etc...then there is literally no hope of peacefully restoring the Republic...it is gone...and we best plan accordingly!
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my late husband had been in the navy when Nixon resigned, stationed out of Norfolk. he said that the fleet was put on high alert heading for dc when the joint chiefs visited the whitehouse and said it was time to go. Now this might be an "urban myth" of sorts for the navy, but just the fact that he told the story indicates to me that at that time, at least, the military was ready to deal with such treason....
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I fear what is in place now would come to the aid of a disaster refusing to leave...even if constitutionally required to do so...such are our times...
::unknowncomic::
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I fear what is in place now would come to the aid of a disaster refusing to leave...even if constitutionally required to do so...such are our times...
::unknowncomic::
Either way, when the shooting starts, he's toast. As it stands now, the SS is looking for things and conspiracy items, they can't prevent an entire population that's bent on taking him out at their expense. I'm still not sure if there's enough outrage for the population or some segment if it to actually take up arms. I may amongst the first to die but then who wants to live under the tyranny of a Marxist?
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What would you do???
Accept the first offer, get relocated, be a good solider for 6 months and integrate yourself into your new life.
Meanwhile contact an old buddy on the down low. Email account using a Hotel PC perhaps. A Letter dropped off in a public mail box. Go hunting where you know your buddy hunts.
Get them to contact consulates clandestinely to find who will shelter you. Russia seems to be into that now.
Tell the Feds you are going to take a family trip to see Alaska or th Grand Canyon. Then over the border into Mexico or Canada to the consulate where you immediately issue a press release that they threatened to kill anyone you left behind and here is what you know. Yep. They will call you a traitor, but probably won't move on the people you left behind. And traitor to what? To the Obama Regime? Sure. To the Constitution and the America you knew. Certainly not. You aren't going home again, but then, none of us is. Our country is already gone.
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Yeah, Amerika is no longer a freindly place to be if you are for freedom and liberty...if your a statist or a dumbass you're probably fine with the way things are going, for everybody else there is only looking out for you and yours!
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I keep getting back to this idea that one of our major problems is that there's really no frontier left on this planet. Prior to the 20th century there was always some form of frontier, somewhere. People who don't like being herded and subjected to the whims of the dumbass majority could go to the frontier, where life was harsh -- but it was precisely that harshness that kept the dumbass majority out.
Maybe the lesson to learn for when/if there's ever a new frontier is, don't do too good a job of civilizing the place once you get there. Keep it wild and hostile to an extent.
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I keep getting back to this idea that one of our major problems is that there's really no frontier left on this planet. Prior to the 20th century there was always some form of frontier, somewhere. People who don't like being herded and subjected to the whims of the dumbass majority could go to the frontier, where life was harsh -- but it was precisely that harshness that kept the dumbass majority out.
Maybe the lesson to learn for when/if there's ever a new frontier is, don't do too good a job of civilizing the place once you get there. Keep it wild and hostile to an extent.
My wife had a hospital CFO opportunity come her way several years ago - in Barrow Alaska. We turned it down, for reasons that seemed obvious at the time. I think that in the coming sh*tstorm, it may take that degree of remoteness to live in relative liberty.
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I keep getting back to this idea that one of our major problems is that there's really no frontier left on this planet. Prior to the 20th century there was always some form of frontier, somewhere. People who don't like being herded and subjected to the whims of the dumbass majority could go to the frontier, where life was harsh -- but it was precisely that harshness that kept the dumbass majority out.
Maybe the lesson to learn for when/if there's ever a new frontier is, don't do too good a job of civilizing the place once you get there. Keep it wild and hostile to an extent.
My wife had a hospital CFO opportunity come her way several years ago - in Barrow Alaska. We turned it down, for reasons that seemed obvious at the time. I think that in the coming sh*tstorm, it may take that degree of remoteness to live in relative liberty.
If an opportunity comes up again and you take it, don't forget about me, I have experience in that industry.
21 and light snow there right now...that don't seem too bad.
Not a lot of jobs right now...
http://www.cityofbarrow.org/component/option,com_jobline/Itemid,29/ (http://www.cityofbarrow.org/component/option,com_jobline/Itemid,29/)
Man, are they ever way the heck up there though!
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Barrow would be too remote and hostile even for me. You lose modern technology and logistics, how do you survive there? It's an arctic tundra.
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The only way is to bring with you that which you need to make what you need. Otherwise it is whatever that can be flown up to you during good weather. Definitely need to think long-term all the time up there!
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@Heritage: The #Benghazi Eyewitnesses http://t.co/hK0sYm8RbA (http://t.co/hK0sYm8RbA)
Benghazi Eyewitnesses to Testify on Capitol Hill
by Helle Dale | November 8, 2013 at 11:50 am
Three more eyewitnesses to the Benghazi terrorist attack on September 11, 2012, will finally have the opportunity to speak to Members of Congress next week.
Without increasing insistence from the Hill, it is highly unlikely that their accounts would ever be heard. From day one, the Obama White House has been presenting misleading narratives about the events that night, and gag orders have aimed to keep survivors silent. Kudos to Senator Lindsey Graham (R–SC) and others in Congress for keeping the pressure up.
Three CIA employees who were eyewitnesses to the attack are expected to testify in a closed-door session before the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. They will add to the previously deposed firsthand accounts of the two security agents to the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.
The Obama Administration does not want this to happen. In a letter to Senator Graham, the State Department cited Justice Department advice that the eyewitnesses could be needed for a criminal trial, which could be jeopardized by their congressional testimony. Ironically for an Administration that failed to provide adequate security in Benghazi, concern for the eyewitnesses’ safety was also given as a reason.
Both excuses are pretty flimsy, particularly since not a single one of the Benghazi attackers has been apprehended more than a year after the event. And the State Department has not even posted a reward for any information leading to their capture.
Having finally gotten some of the eyewitnesses to come forward, Members of Congress will have to be prepared to help shield them from the potential reprisals from the Obama Administration.
The deputy chief of mission in Tripoli, Gregory Hicks, was punished for testifying before Congress by having his career sidelined at the State Department. He is currently on leave from State, having landed as a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
And a key witness in the compelling 60 Minutes segment on Benghazi that aired on October 27, Dylan Davies, a British defense contractor, who appeared under the pseudonym Morgan Jones, has found himself in a firestorm of allegations that he changed his narrative to sell his new book. Davies, meanwhile, has challenged the FBI to release his original post-Benghazi deposition to show that it was consistent with his on-air account. The FBI has refused.
Congressional oversight should not let up. As the Obama Administration has clammed up, and most of the media has been whistling past the graveyard, it is the only way the truth will come out.
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Three CIA employees who were eyewitnesses to the attack are expected to testify in a closed-door session before the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.
Not good enough. If President Hissy Fit and the Bungling Bitch of Benghazi, along with the commie Susan Rice, are going to lie publicly to the American people about what happened, then their lies should be exposed in the full light of day at an open hearing. A closed hearing just gives the Owebama Maladministration more cover.
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Three CIA employees who were eyewitnesses to the attack are expected to testify in a closed-door session before the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.
Not good enough. If President Hissy Fit and the Bungling Bitch of Benghazi, along with the commie Susan Rice, are going to lie publicly to the American people about what happened, then their lies should be exposed in the full light of day at an open hearing. A closed hearing just gives the Owebama Maladministration more cover.
You have to get elected by whatever means possible and bribe your way onto the right committees to get a peek behind the curtain...if you want transparency and accountability you are on the wrong plantet in the wrong solar system!!!