It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: richb on November 27, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
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Many of us conservatives dislike that liberals typically control the public discourse by how issues are presented. It makes their positions on issues seem correct, the "obvious" solution, the "right" thing to do, the "fair" thing, the "natural" way, the "right side of history" etc. On the flip side it makes our position look, old fashioned, backwards, racist, the old broken down way, unscientific, ignorant, the "wrong side of history" or whatever. All too often we go along with it. Low information voters of course, know nothing else. We end up on the defensive, even though we are on the right side of the issue and history. By right we should be on the offensive.
But the biggest corruption they do to the discourse is by changing the meaning of words, over using a word or twisting them to mean something else entirely. Or they use them to mean one thing but the reality makes it something else entirely (the time its backfires on them). Or the word becomes meaningless.
Here are a few:
Sustainable- Liberals use this one all the time. How things have to be "sustainable". How SUV's and single family houses are not sustainable for example. Used often by the green movement. The irony, most of the liberal agenda is decidedly unsustainable. Funny how its never used when it comes to taxpayers money being spent.
One Percenter- This is newer one, since some the old terms no longer work for them. One Percenter has been used, especially by the Occupy "movement". The irony of this one is huge too, since the slow moving economy, driven by liberal big government, over regulation and insider cronyism, is largely creating the increased "unequal wealth". They never note the areas of the country with the most unequal wealth are blue states and cities like New York. They make it sound like all one percenters are evil Republican businessmen out to make an easy buck. Of course the one percenter that are causing the problems are liberal billionaires like Soros.
Progressive- Since liberal has become a negative term in the last thirty years, many liberals now describe themselves as "progressive". They think their agenda is moving the world forward and that the world only moves forward. However it is likely moving the world backwards. They don't believe in the fact that things can and do get worse, not better, especially when bad policy makes only the bad outcomes possible. They don't know history, so they are repeating the many mistakes of the past. Of course, if they knew history, they probably wouldn't be liberals anymore. If anything most conservatives I know are more progressive (the real meaning of progressive) then most liberal are.
Liberal- To most "liberal" is a dirty word, even among liberals today, so its not used as much as the past. I think an argument would break out whether liberals ruined the word totally on their own, or whether its a rare victory by conservatives in the word war. Liberal once meant something like progressive once was too. Someone with an open mind. As we know, liberals have the most closed minds there are, something they accuse us all the time of being. Thankfully "progressive" is becoming a dirty word too.
Gay- Well, most people today don't seem to know that gay means to be happy. They all think its that other thing.....
Environment- liberals love the environment, or so they say. Only their policies make the environment worse, not better. Wind mills and ethanol have environmental costs, and some are quite negative, at least no better then the oil and coal they are meant to "replace".
Green- The recycling movement seems to think they have invented the wheel when it comes to reuse. They forget that many businesses have done "green" things for a long time. They think that things like cash for clunkers is a good green policy. Never mind the existing auto business has a long time business of reuse, that CFC screwed with with negative results (mostly for lower income motorists).
Forward- The motto of Barry's second campaign blew my mind. Didn't one person there know that "forward" was used by Mussolini's Fascist party in the 1930's? Though the Obama regime has plenty of the same fascist policies though somehow far more incompetent then the Duce.
So what are some other words that liberals have screwed with? Add them to this thread.
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Marriage.
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Comrad!
Surely, words still have meaning; does not 2 + 2 equal 5? Are our chocolate rations not being increased from 40% to 30%?
If you keep speaking such things, I shall be forced to report you...
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Truth.
As in 'truths', 'true for you but not for me' 'what truth?' 'true today, but not necessarily tomorrow' relativistic truth, 'truth de jour' etc.
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Great rant richb!
Apparently (and I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one) affordable has taken on an entirely new meaning.
::doh::
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Progressive- Since liberal has become a negative term in the last thirty years, many liberals now describe themselves as "progressive". They think their agenda is moving the world forward and that the world only moves forward. However it is likely moving the world backwards.
Actually, "progressive" was what they called themselves in the 30s under FDR till it obtain the same negative connotation and they switched to liberal. Read S I Hayakawa (http://www.amazon.com/Language-Thought-Action-S-I-Hayakawa/dp/0156482401/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1385648526&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=language+in+thought+and+reason+s+i++hawakawa) on Intensional Orientation. The Left lives with that delusiuon - that the map IS the country rather than a symbolic representation of it. Money is Value, not a symbol for it. Because words ARE the THING to them, they really think tey change reality when they change the word.
Democrat, Liberal, Progressive. Keep trying and maybe you will fool someone.
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'comprehensive'. Everything DC now does is comprehensive, except for overhauling government itself.
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Patriot
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Republican used to have a real meaning until RINO's came along.
And yet one word remains the same.
ASS
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Being Progressive used to be a good thing.
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Progressive- Since liberal has become a negative term in the last thirty years, many liberals now describe themselves as "progressive". They think their agenda is moving the world forward and that the world only moves forward. However it is likely moving the world backwards.
Actually, "progressive" was what they called themselves in the 30s under FDR till it obtain the same negative connotation and they switched to liberal. Read S I Hayakawa (http://www.amazon.com/Language-Thought-Action-S-I-Hayakawa/dp/0156482401/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1385648526&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=language+in+thought+and+reason+s+i++hawakawa) on Intensional Orientation. The Left lives with that delusiuon - that the map IS the country rather than a symbolic representation of it. Money is Value, not a symbol for it. Because words ARE the THING to them, they really think tey change reality when they change the word.
Democrat, Liberal, Progressive. Keep trying and maybe you will fool someone.
Be direct, quit dancing around the pin head, call them what they are, evil scum. We know this is what they are forcing others to comply with their agenda,stealing your God given rights, their unjust law and values as well as lifestyle. Just explain it to them in terms even an evil scumbag can understand.
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Being Progressive used to be a good thing.
When?
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Being Progressive used to be a good thing.
When?
I seem to remember that from when I was a kid. In my circles it meant to look forward to a brighter future, and not to the past. It did not mean to change the world, as it does today.
That was certainly a different time and place in my personal history. Now, just hearing someone say "progressive" puts me in a "hunt 'em down" mode.
Sort of like when "gay" had a whole different meaning. Back then "gay" was teamed with "happy", not with "queer" as it is today.
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"REPURPOSED". "We repurposed the tire by planting in it". Argh.
"REGIFTED". This one gets my goat. A "noble" word for turning your junk or unwanted stuff into a "gift".
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"REPURPOSED". "We repurposed the tire by planting in it". Argh.
"REGIFTED". This one gets my goat. A "noble" word for turning your junk or unwanted stuff into a "gift".
A "SLIGHTLY USED" or "ALMOST NEW" vehicle.
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Justice as used by the evil liberal progressive socialist communist scum to justify controlling every part of our lives and the economy. ::pullhair::
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COMPASION!
As in the only demonstrated kind is that which takes from one who can to give to one who won't.
::pullhair::
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Incorrect Promise