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Topics => The Police State => Topic started by: Glock32 on February 06, 2014, 08:20:18 PM

Title: Cops handcuff firefighter who was helping crash victim
Post by: Glock32 on February 06, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
http://www.infowars.com/cop-handcuffs-firefighter-for-trying-to-protect-crash-victims/ (http://www.infowars.com/cop-handcuffs-firefighter-for-trying-to-protect-crash-victims/)

Oh, and here's one from 2009 where cops assault an ambulance crew who were trying to transport a woman in the midst of a heart attack:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Oklahoma_trooper_on_leave_after_altercation_with_ambulance_personnel (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Oklahoma_trooper_on_leave_after_altercation_with_ambulance_personnel)


Above the law, god-complex, how dare anyone not grovel before them.  They're state-sanctioned, uniformed gangsters for the most part.
Title: Re: Cops handcuff firefighter who was helping crash victim
Post by: richb on February 06, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
What is it, and the tic for tac bullsh*t between different government departments.   Last thing they need is bad blood between them,  since only taxpayers will get screwed in the process. 
Title: Re: Cops handcuff firefighter who was helping crash victim
Post by: Libertas on February 07, 2014, 07:43:20 AM
Should be summarily dismissed and banned from ever holding a LE position anywhere.  But that is if there was any integrity in the forces in question, the unions, the political unit (city, county, whatever)...or among their peers...

Title: Re: Cops handcuff firefighter who was helping crash victim
Post by: Pandora on February 07, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
What is it, and the tic for tac bullsh*t between different government departments.   Last thing they need is bad blood between them,  since only taxpayers will get screwed in the process.

From reading several other sources on this, it seems most states have settled the issue by declaring the highest ranking fire fighter on the scene as in charge and the cops are usually made to understand this.  California is not one of these states; CHP has authority there.  This does not excuse what the cop did at all, because he forgot or ignored the overall mission, which was to protect the emergency rescue personnel present, and the other police, while they did their jobs.  The FD will deliberately position one of the trucks to block the area and the people from other traffic.  This does sometimes tie up traffic and the cops apparently hate that.

It comes down to a difference in mission -- cops want to gather evidence, clean up the scene and restore traffic while the FD and EMTs focus is dealing with the injured and keeping everybody on scene as safe as they can as they're doing it.

Title: Re: Cops handcuff firefighter who was helping crash victim
Post by: AlanS on February 07, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
What is it, and the tic for tac bullsh*t between different government departments.   Last thing they need is bad blood between them,  since only taxpayers will get screwed in the process.

From reading several other sources on this, it seems most states have settled the issue by declaring the highest ranking fire fighter on the scene as in charge and the cops are usually made to understand this.  California is not one of these states; CHP has authority there.  This does not excuse what the cop did at all, because he forgot or ignored the overall mission, which was to protect the emergency rescue personnel present, and the other police, while they did their jobs.  The FD will deliberately position one of the trucks to block the area and the people from other traffic.  This does sometimes tie up traffic and the cops apparently hate that.

It comes down to a difference in mission -- cops want to gather evidence, clean up the scene and restore traffic while the FD and EMTs focus is dealing with the injured and keeping everybody on scene as safe as they can as they're doing it.

Great assessment. ::thumbsup::