It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: Libertas on April 17, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/obama-requests-182-million-to-push-new-gun-control-laws/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/obama-requests-182-million-to-push-new-gun-control-laws/)
ANY member of either chamber of Congress voting to allow this allotment in ANY bill, should perish! In fact every bill submitted from now till Hell freezes over should contain specific language BANNING ANY FUNDING from being used in such fashion, period!
WTF?! Do we have to think for everybody?!
::cussing:: Pubbies!
::asskicking::
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Give LEO's more tools? As in more Mine proof vehicles?
And get rid of assault weapons. Can't have the populace able to defend themselves.
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The Obama Progressive Plan: Crush all upitty liberty-spouting Constitution-loving bitter-clinging citizens before they get onto us and hunt us down and kill us.
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A private citizens plan for reducing gun violence.
1. Ban all gun "free" zones. These will prevent all law abiding citizens from being disarmed in public, and make it so they can fight back. All major attacks have been in "gun" free zones, they are part of the problem, not a solution. Attacks won't happen when people don't know who is packing or you see people openly carrying.
2. Return marksmanship and gun safety class to the school curriculum, starting with grade school level. Show the general public that guns in themselves aren't evil and scary. Also teach respect for something that is dangerous when poorly handled (you can say the same thing about cars), but perfectly safe when handled properly. This should include urban and suburban areas as well (I know a few rural areas never stopped with this education).
Also if marksmanship is taught in school, maybe gun (bad) handling and posturing won't look so "cool" to the gang banger and other idiot types. Part of today's problem is few people actually know much about guns and more importantly BASIC gun safety.
All citizens should have basic gun safety lessons even if they don't want to handle weapons. Just look at the typical anti-gunner when they touch a gun, some really bad handling and poor safety on their part. If you don't like guns thats ok, but at least know how they are handled safely.
3. Repeal all unconstitutional gun laws. That would be probably 99% of gun laws on the books today. Also the few gun laws that remain should be at the state level to reduce complexity. The federal government and local levels should have no say. Another major problem gun owners have are the dizzyingly array of local laws that are confusing to say the least. They all need to be repealed. The laws should be the same over a whole state, not different on one side of a street because its in a different town. And there should be very few laws to begin with, mostly on the common sense safety issue (like discharging a gun in a crowded area).
4. All fifty states should accept all states gun licenses like they do with drivers licenses. It's insane that there is all different amounts of accepting or rejecting (Illinois for example accepts no other states at all). Imagine if states rejected all out of state drivers licenses, that is nuts, its the same with gun licensing.
5. At some point licensing should be repealed. No list of gun owners should be kept by the government at any level. The only list that can be kept is a list of mentally ill that cannot handle guns, or criminals that used guns in crimes (most convictions should not get you on the list). It should be hard to be put on that list and no one government agency should be allowed to put people on it without due process. There needs to be an appeal system (probably within the court system) and the burden should be on the state (not the other way around) to the reason why someone should not own a gun. This will be the hardest part to control as anti-gunners will use it to try to put millions on such a list. When a gun is purchased, if you don't show up on the list, you get your gun immediately. It should be free to access by anyone and not require a gun dealer to do so.
6. Retired military should be allowed to keep their issued rifle or sidearm if they chose to, like they do in Switzerland. I know many retired talk about how they would have loved to have kept a weapon they liked in the service. That should be a bonus of serving.
7. And lastly personal responsibly. You are responsable for your own safety and actions. If you use a gun in a crime, you should be prosecuted for that crime, not because of the gun. If you didn't have that gun you would have likely used a knife or even a board with a nail in it. The gun doesn't make you a criminal. The crime you commit makes you one.
Also there need to be reform of the mental health system. Per say its not a gun issue but its something that needs to be dealt with. The government of course has failed miserably at it, maybe even to the point of allowing it to push gun control.
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Amen, Rich! Let it be so! ::praying::
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Rich, would you mind if I shared your post?
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Rich, would you mind if I shared your post?
You certainly can. Where do you plan on posting it?
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Rich, would you mind if I shared your post?
You certainly can. Where do you plan on posting it?
Hopefully at a certain fishing forum we frequent.
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Well...that could turn the water red... :D
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Well...that could turn the water red... :D
heh heh heh!
I imagine most fishing and hunting forums lean our direction. Though all it takes is one libtard mod for it to disappear.
I should see how long a post like mine would last on Huffpost or another liberal site. Probably not even a half hour I would guess.
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Rich, would you mind if I shared your post?
You certainly can. Where do you plan on posting it?
Hopefully at a certain fishing forum we frequent.
There, and perhaps on Facebook, if you permit it.
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Sure you can put it on facebook, fine with me. Though those who run facebook may not be. ;)
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Much appreciated, Rich. Have a good one sir.
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FYI, the thread on the fishing forum lasted a whole 8 pages before being shut down by the sniveling Leftist libtards.
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As one who grew up with surf fishermen I always found fishermen to be cut from the same pro-gun cloth as hunters and other outdoorsmen. So even though I'm not familiar with your fishing forum, I'll go out on a limb and take a guess that the resident libtards must be the fly fishermen "gear queers" who also enjoy the smell of their own farts for supporting trout stream conservation. They probably drive a Subaru Forrester.
I wouldn't think your average bass boat fishermen, or your average surf fisherman, would be of the sniveling Leftist libtard variety. The only sub-variety of fishing that strikes me as maybe having a fair amount of sniveling libtards would be those trout stream guys.
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Glock, the sad thing is that this particular forum is primarily geared toward bass fishermen. I'm sure there are some of the types of which you spoke, but they're mostly the typical lake/river bass fisherman...
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I wouldn't think your average bass boat fishermen, or your average surf fisherman, would be of the sniveling Leftist libtard variety.
When given enough numbers, you're bound to get a few. Eric is referring to a bass fishing site we frequent. Out of 80k members (according to the site owner), there are a handful of fisherman who lean to the left.
The whole 80k member thing is a thread unto itself.
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See, told you I did, it only takes one asshole to stink up the whole joint!
Actually, 8 pages isn't too bad...
When you say "shut down" was it merely locked to prevent any more posts or was it removed entirely? If the latter that would suck and should spur the clear majority into righteous anger, if the former at least it can still be viewed and the posting served its purpose.
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That bass fishing forum is run by a Canadian, and he definitely is a liberal. He says "no politics", but what he means is, "no conservative opinion." I dared offer it one too many times, and got booted. So I reregistered under a different name, and only go there to discuss fishing/boating.
I don't think they have anything close to 80,000 users, but they are the biggest and the best source of fishing/boating knowledge I've found. On many occasions, I've had a specific question/problem related to maintenance, repair, or use of my boat or gear, and never once has the community there failed to provide the information I seek, usually within the day my thread is posted.
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How do libiots afford fishing gear? Outlets take EBT cards now or what? ::unknowncomic::
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See, told you I did, it only takes one asshole to stink up the whole joint!
Actually, 8 pages isn't too bad...
When you say "shut down" was it merely locked to prevent any more posts or was it removed entirely? If the latter that would suck and should spur the clear majority into righteous anger, if the former at least it can still be viewed and the posting served its purpose.
It was locked, not deleted. Only thing about that is that the amount of traffic that part of the forum receives, and the number of threads started, it's probably already several pages back in the sub-forum.
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OK. Ever want to reference it though all you have to do is link to it.
Say, for example a known libiot makes the blanket comment that "the free exchange of all ideas is welcome here" then attach the link and politely ask "you mean like this?".
::evilbat::
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Yeah it's like when Mozilla had the gall to write about being an organization that values diversity and differing viewpoints. This was written in a public statement regarding them recently drubbing out their CEO because of his differing viewpoint. That's the sort of thing that irritates me more than anything else: claiming to be this or that while in practice being anything but, and when called out on it actually doubling down on the lie. It's a unique trait of liberals in general.
Yet I am still using Firefox. Though I have always been an occasional user of Opera for variety, I just still can't quite promote it to my starting lineup. It doesn't work properly often enough that I still use Firefox. Comodo makes two browsers based on Chrome and Firefox, and I've tried the Firefox derivative on my PC. It seems to work well, but they don't make a Mac version so that's only an option for PC.
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Libiots are wired different than normals that's for sure.
What doesn't Opera do for you? Maybe I am not a super-user of the interwebs in general, but I like the way pages look through Opera. I have to navigate a little harder through bookmarks, but I really like the look of it.