It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: Septugenarian on December 15, 2014, 12:27:27 PM
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Fed up with the passage of an 18½-page incoherent, rambling, unconstitutional gun control initiative that was bankrolled by billionaires, gun owners across Washington state held the largest felony civil disobedience rally in the nation’s history, brazenly titled “I Will Not Comply.” No one was hurt and no stores were looted. Between 1,000 and 3,000 lawful gun owners showed up openly armed at the state capitol in Olympia, Wash., on Saturday to defy the newly passed gun control law, I-594.
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2014/12/15/over-1000-gun-owners-violate-washingtons-i594--in-front-of-police-n1931759 (http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2014/12/15/over-1000-gun-owners-violate-washingtons-i594--in-front-of-police-n1931759)
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I wonder if 'Soup was there?
“We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”
YES!!!!
::whoohoo::
And Texas is considering allowing open carry (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12468.msg139122#msg139122).
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While I agree you should have the option for open carry, I never really understood the reasoning. To me, it makes you a target for some idiot (or idiots) to try and steal your gun.
But then again, I'm paranoid.
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While I agree you should have the option for open carry, I never really understood the reasoning. To me, it makes you a target for some idiot (or idiots) to try and steal your gun.
But then again, I'm paranoid.
Yeah, it also makes it obvious you have a gun and would shoot said idiots. Visual deterrence is sometimes better, but it will depend on the situation..
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I wonder if 'Soup was there?
“We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”
YES!!!!
::whoohoo::
And Texas is considering allowing open carry (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12468.msg139122#msg139122).
::thumbsup::
Nope, I was cleaning up storm damage. I did buy 900 rounds of 5.56x45 in honor of those who did attend though ;')
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While I agree you should have the option for open carry, I never really understood the reasoning. To me, it makes you a target for some idiot (or idiots) to try and steal your gun.
But then again, I'm paranoid.
Yeah, it also makes it obvious you have a gun and would shoot said idiots. Visual deterrence is sometimes better, but it will depend on the situation..
I agree, situations are fluid and no person should be deprived their right to bear arms any way they choose, I just wish most people saw it that way, then there would be no debate and bad apples would know with people carrying concealed and open there is no desire to put up with their crap. Right now people are parcelled out a bit of a right and we're supposed to be fricken thankful politicans and LEOs granted us a tiny piece of a whole granted to us by God? They had no right to limit us so severely, the pushback is long overdue.
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I wonder if 'Soup was there?
“We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”
YES!!!!
::whoohoo::
And Texas is considering allowing open carry (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12468.msg139122#msg139122).
::thumbsup::
Nope, I was cleaning up storm damage. I did buy 900 rounds of 5.56x45 in honor of those who did attend though ;')
Well then, that's 900 more votes for liberty! ::cool::
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I can't imagine a situation where I would feel comfortable open carrying, but I am still in favor of those who want to do it. It used to be understood that all gentlemen were armed, and it should once again become the mark of a free citizen.
I would like for it to become completely commonplace to see pistols on people's belts in casual situations. What the bedwetters can't or won't comprehend is that people are already walking around like that: law abiding citizens who have gotten CCW in the past 20 years, and then of course the criminal element who have always and will always walk around strapped regardless of what the law says.
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I would like for it to become completely commonplace to see pistols on people's belts in casual situations
Now THAT I could get behind.
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I can't imagine a situation where I would feel comfortable open carrying, but I am still in favor of those who want to do it. It used to be understood that all gentlemen were armed, and it should once again become the mark of a free citizen.
I would like for it to become completely commonplace to see pistols on people's belts in casual situations. What the bedwetters can't or won't comprehend is that people are already walking around like that: law abiding citizens who have gotten CCW in the past 20 years, and then of course the criminal element who have always and will always walk around strapped regardless of what the law says.
Any freedom of association event/public hearing come immediately to mind.
And hey, just think how much more effective testimony like this would be if delivered armed (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=704.0)!
PS-We gotta sticky post that video...took me forever to find that thing!
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I stickied it. Even so, I'd grab the url and save it for future reference.
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Thank you Darlin'! ::hat-tip::
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Heh, this is good too!
"Of course, I don't care what they call me as long as they get the point about armed civil disobedience to unconstitutional laws and manage to spell my name right all in the same paragraph."
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/12/they-werent-calling-me-names-back-when.html (http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/12/they-werent-calling-me-names-back-when.html)
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(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/difference_between_war_and_revolution_by_declarck-d6jife2_zps52ce3243.png)
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I wonder if 'Soup was there?
“We pledge our blood. We will not comply.”
YES!!!!
::whoohoo::
And Texas is considering allowing open carry (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12468.msg139122#msg139122).
::thumbsup::
Nope, I was cleaning up storm damage. I did buy 900 rounds of 5.56x45 in honor of those who did attend though ;')
900 rounds? Why, that sounds like the Danish NATO stuff. Is that what you got?
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Check this out.
As a continuation of the story surrounding the passage of this tyrannical "law", otherwise law-abiding gun owners are ramping up their resistance to the damned thing. This next protest holds promise of a more direct - and potentially violent confrontation. After the last one some of the libs in Olympia declared bans on handguns in areas previously lawful. Read the response - and warning - to the Washington State Patrol by organizers of the planned February 7th demonstration. This could go very very bad.
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/01/23/an-open-letter-to-the-washington-state-patrol-re-the-planned-february-7th-demonstration/
Oh, and BTW - I plan on attending.
Edited for clarity.
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Go with my prayers, 'Soup.
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Thank you. (Mr. Colt thanks you too)
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I think the best comment at that WRSA article was one pointing out that, yes, We The People still have the actual power, but the statists are not going to yield without being tested. That's been the big question for a while now: when and where is the test going to occur?
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When it comes right down to it, it isn't really a test, it's a confrontation. It's a struggle of will and resolve; a tug-of-war. If the citizens will be testing the state's will to enforce unconstitutional law via this protest, it is only because the state has already tested the resolve of free men and drawn this response.
If this happens as planned (and I pray it does) Either one side will lose that struggle, or blood will be spilled. It's as simple as that. Somebody has to back down. I pray it isn't liberty.
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I think the best comment at that WRSA article was one pointing out that, yes, We The People still have the actual power, but the statists are not going to yield without being tested. That's been the big question for a while now: when and where is the test going to occur?
When indeed. The statists are never tested. At best only their surrogates and pawns are. Already the establishment "R's" are hightailing for the treeline. I'm so done with them.
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Stay safe eyes open wits about you. Trust no one you don't know the government will be there. ::saywhat::
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That is a fantastic letter. That should energize every liberty-loving heart! No more backing down! Liberty takes a backseat to nobody!
My thoughts and prayers will be with you 'Soup and with all the good people who attend with you! ::praying::
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Stay safe eyes open wits about you. Trust no one you don't know the government will be there. ::saywhat::
We had snipers on the roof when we had our first TEA party rally several years ago. It wasn't because of our reputation because we were so new that we didn't have a reputation. It was because of the lefties who endlessly parade and misbehave there. How do I know? Because I struck up a conversation with a group of WSP (Washington State Patrol) who were walking through the crowd (I ain't afraid of no ghost).
I was armed then and I'll be armed on the 7th and I defy anyone who would strip me of my rights.
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You pick the time and place for a fight not them.
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Sometimes the place picks you.
What time is this supposed to start? I'd like to keep tabs of this as best I can, perhaps it will be streaming online. The more eyes that see will make it harder for the statist to lie if something does happen.
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I saw this post at WRSA (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/a-message-from-washington-state-our-fight-is-your-fight/) and started reading...was compelled to follow their link to the PHS site to finish the article (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/washington-state-gun-rights-fight-fight/), and I am glad I did, this Kit Lange wrote a good piece on what is at stake in Washington State for all of us. Check it out.
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I saw this post at WRSA (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/a-message-from-washington-state-our-fight-is-your-fight/) and started reading...was compelled to follow their link to the PHS site to finish the article (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/washington-state-gun-rights-fight-fight/), and I am glad I did, this Kit Lange wrote a good piece on what is at stake in Washington State for all of us. Check it out.
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Yes, most certainly spot on. When the govt fears the people, we have Liberty and when the people fear the govt we have tyranny.
f**king cowards these usurpers are as all of them are. They hide behind their instruments with firearm protection as they strip you and yours.
Want to put real fear into these asshats, get you friends together and run an old time drill as a combative rifle squad.
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I saw this post at WRSA (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/a-message-from-washington-state-our-fight-is-your-fight/) and started reading...was compelled to follow their link to the PHS site to finish the article (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/washington-state-gun-rights-fight-fight/), and I am glad I did, this Kit Lange wrote a good piece on what is at stake in Washington State for all of us. Check it out.
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Yes, most certainly spot on. When the govt fears the people, we have Liberty and when the people fear the govt we have tyranny.
f**king cowards these usurpers are as all of them are. They hide behind their instruments with firearm protection as they strip you and yours.
Want to put real fear into these asshats, get you friends together and run an old time drill as a combative rifle squad.
I do have some info for properly deploying a rifle squad, hoping to make use of it some day...
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https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/to-the-citizens-of-washington-state-and-their-american-countrymen/#comment-117302
Onward Christian Soldiers! ::thumbsup::
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The protest was a bust.
Only a couple hundred attended with no more than about 50 in attendance at any time. The weather was horrible and I'm sure contributed, but the main thing that quelled direct conflict was that the state preempted any confrontation by barring the doors to the state house gallery.
My brother and I drove down and milled about but I'm still nursing the aftereffects of two root canals and consequently really didn't want to be there. I think we stayed about 45 minutes.
Those who engineered the event were well-intended but need to learn a thing (or thirteen) about planning and promotions. I searched the web (which like it or not IS the communications media for our age) and could find only fleeting references to the event. I looked at all the usual local suspects - nothing. The page that offered the most comprehensive coverage - this thread at IAL. That's depressing.
My brother, who insists on believing that he can reconstitute the local pubbie party, said that he talked to a bunch of local "leaders" - to a person they distanced themselves from any hint of support or interest in the event.
So I'm left with this:
I thank God that I was fortunate to live on my country in a time when we had principles and honor. I count myself fortunate that I was born at a time to at least live a portion of the "Great American Dream" before we pissed it all away.
I'm thankful for the forethought I had to purchase the, er, equipment that I have. Let any man who would entertain the notion of separating me from it first make themselves good with God.
(http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Molon-Labe-590x293.jpg)
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Sad news.
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That is very disheartening to say the least. And it looks like it completely fell off the WRSA website, not even a rudimentary postmortem.
This is so symptomatic of latter day America...
Once again I feel like a man out of time.
(sigh)
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Kit Lange posts an article on the hundred or so that showed up...
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/freedom-knocks-armed-wa-patriots-deliver-message-state-nation/ (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/freedom-knocks-armed-wa-patriots-deliver-message-state-nation/)
Typical statists...avoid the people, lock them out or just don't be there...
Same sh*t they pulled to shut down the townhall meetings the Tea Party was using to great effect to put fire under asses...
But then in addition to not showing up they started holding potted-plant events the general public was prevented from attending...
Tactics are going to have to change...get people ready to move at a moments notice, send out a flash text/tweet/email and then just show up! These assholes have to be in session some time. Have these Patriot Rep's send the signal as to when, then send in the Sons and Daughters of Liberty.
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They know that conservatives and libertarians are easy to avoid because they work M-F.
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Well, that has been true for more than my lifetime...but it seems it goes beyond that now, their outright hatred of those they cannot cower and control...
Tired of this sorry dance...
Let's get to fishin' or just cut bait already!
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This is good. Follow the link, read it all.
As an American born of blood and gunpowder, it shames me to know that so many of my countrymen are so utterly worthless to the cause of liberty. As someone who believes so strongly in this cause that it literally forms the core of my heart, it breaks me to know that so many are willing to go about their days accepting restriction after restriction, accepting the thousand little deaths that our liberty dies every day, not even seeing the death and destruction that is at the end of this road—the same road that people have died to prevent us ever being on in the first place. As a woman, it absolutely disgusts me that so many grown men in this country have so little in the way of balls. (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/keyboard-warriors-facebook-commandos-washington-state/)
I like her, she's feisty!!! ::thumbsup::
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This is good. Follow the link, read it all.
As an American born of blood and gunpowder, it shames me to know that so many of my countrymen are so utterly worthless to the cause of liberty. As someone who believes so strongly in this cause that it literally forms the core of my heart, it breaks me to know that so many are willing to go about their days accepting restriction after restriction, accepting the thousand little deaths that our liberty dies every day, not even seeing the death and destruction that is at the end of this road—the same road that people have died to prevent us ever being on in the first place. As a woman, it absolutely disgusts me that so many grown men in this country have so little in the way of balls. (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/keyboard-warriors-facebook-commandos-washington-state/)
I like her, she's feisty!!! ::thumbsup::
Definitely thumbs up but I can't help but feel I'm letting them down. I can't make it without a few dollars in the bank. This winter season has been worst than terrible and the first nagger's economy hasn't helped either.
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This is good. Follow the link, read it all.
As an American born of blood and gunpowder, it shames me to know that so many of my countrymen are so utterly worthless to the cause of liberty. As someone who believes so strongly in this cause that it literally forms the core of my heart, it breaks me to know that so many are willing to go about their days accepting restriction after restriction, accepting the thousand little deaths that our liberty dies every day, not even seeing the death and destruction that is at the end of this road—the same road that people have died to prevent us ever being on in the first place. As a woman, it absolutely disgusts me that so many grown men in this country have so little in the way of balls. (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/keyboard-warriors-facebook-commandos-washington-state/)
I like her, she's feisty!!! ::thumbsup::
Definitely thumbs up but I can't help but feel I'm letting them down. I can't make it without a few dollars in the bank. This winter season has been worst than terrible and the first nagger's economy hasn't helped either.
Yeah, I know...feel the same...but we all have jobs, family, commitments and priorities...it doesn't diminish us or her exhortations, some will answer the call...until the very fabric of society is rendered in total, it will be this way...
Kinda makes me think we all could plan our vacations differently maybe...be in position to attend some of these events...if we have enough lead time...
And we should all make an effort to attend things within our reach...
That is the wider message I think. ::thumbsup::
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Another Kit posting -
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/open-letter-to-the-sheriffs-of-washington-state/ (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/open-letter-to-the-sheriffs-of-washington-state/)
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These abuses of our liberties will end now.
We will not comply.
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Would love to see Sheriff's act accordingly! ::praying::
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Another Kit posting -
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/open-letter-to-the-sheriffs-of-washington-state/ (http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/open-letter-to-the-sheriffs-of-washington-state/)
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These abuses of our liberties will end now.
We will not comply.
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Would love to see Sheriff's act accordingly! ::praying::
Very much Like Ann Barnhardt stated, the local Sheriff has great responsibility and power under our system of federalism. They are nearest to the people as intended by the Founders which is why you need to take great care in who you elect to that position. When federal authorities break their oath and violate the unalienable rights of citizens it's up to the local sheriff to use his/her authority to arrest the violators.
We currently are under the thumb of the most oppressive regime in the country's history and so many of our citizens are under the false belief that the Fedcoats have more power than the locally elected sheriffs do.
This country has always been on the cusp between central govt and local and state govt so that none can over play their hands except here in the now we have the ignorance that's allowed the fedcoats to have their way. AL Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore is one that stands out to shout at the Feds, NO, you haven't the authority under the constitution to force your will upon sovereign citizens.
I'm still a believer in that only a civil war will correct this problem. The majority of jurists today have been purposely misled by their instructors that the Feds have supreme authority no matter what. The ones not indoctrinated will go their own way, constitutionally speaking and become originalists.