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Title: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 24, 2015, 07:31:15 AM
148 Feared Dead

According to initial press reports the plane had 142 passengers on board, with another 6 in the flight crew.

It appears the flight had sent out a distressed signal at 9:47 UTC, minutes before its final moments

The weather conditions at the time of the crash were calm

There is currently a French EC-135 flying above the crash site

According to Sputnik.net, over 240 French firemen and 210 police officers are heading to the crash site.  The flight was declared in distress at 10:47 local time near Barcelonnette, according to the Directorate General of Civil Aviation.

The wreckage of crashed Germanwings Airbus A320 is located at 6,500 feet in the mountains, the French Interior Ministry said.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/airbus-a320-carrying-148-crashes-french-alps?page=1 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/airbus-a320-carrying-148-crashes-french-alps?page=1)

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/a320%20crash.jpg)

I've actually been in this part of the Alps, long time ago...it is very pretty, and rugged, apart from Alpine valley farms and some ski resorts and small towns...not a lot there.

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/rapid%20descent.jpg)

This data is very odd.  Something happened and the Vertrate went more negative and altitude began to decrease, but it all looks controlled...there is no radical juking about in lat/long and heading deviates by only 17 around that goofy 14k Vertrate mark (which looks anomalous given no change in altitude), speed is relatively stable until towards the end of the data when it slows to just over 400...

As is normal with crashes, we will have to be patient and see what develops...

For the victims - R.I.P., for the families and friends - thoughts & prayers.

Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 24, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
OK, this puts it in a little more perspective...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150324_alps.jpg)

Explains the lack of lateral action...thing was dropping like a rock...

Catestrophic failure or something bad happening in the cockpit?   ::speechless::

There is some data loss too...38k to 10k, the area it went down I thought said 6.5k elevation...that's a 3.5k difference only the black boxes could account for...but just what the heck happened at 38k?!?!?!

ETA - Site located...

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/debris%202_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/debris%202_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/debris_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/03/debris_0.jpg)

"He said the largest pieces of debris are the size of a small car."

"Germanwings said the passenger manifest included two babies."  Oh, Lord.   :'(

"WHITE HOUSE: NO INDICATION OF TERRORISM IN AIRPLANE CRASH"  Oh STFD and STFU!  Why did THAT utterly useless dreck have to be in the article?!  B.Hussein O wouldn't know terrorism if it yanked his mangina!
 ::gaah::

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/first-images-germanwings-crash-debris-emerge-white-house-says-no-indication-terroris (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/first-images-germanwings-crash-debris-emerge-white-house-says-no-indication-terroris)

Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 24, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
The debris field should indicate whether the plane was intact prior to impact, or if it broke apart in the air.  I would think even if both engines failed, those planes are capable of glider flight for nearly 100 miles, from that altitude anyway.  The data and voice recorders should reveal the cause.  At least in this case they aren't lost in 20,000 feet of water.

RIP to the deceased.   ::praying::
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 24, 2015, 12:47:46 PM
"No indication of terrorism" is the auto-response.

Any bets?
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 24, 2015, 01:02:14 PM
I bet Obama is full of shat!

PS - Just heard on the radio, sounds like the black box has been found...and that no distress call was ever received...

I may be wrong, but right now it sounds as if something not right happened in the cockpit...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 24, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
Assuming the pilots were conscious at the time, you would have to think they'd notice the plane descending at such a steep rate.  This seems to have some similarities with the Air France A340 that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Brazil.  In that case, the two pilots were entering contradictory pitch commands on the control sticks, and the computer is programmed to average the inputs (which caused the plane to descend right into the water).  A complicating factor in that case was the malfunctioning altimeter and air speed indicators, due to ice formation in the pitot tubes.  I wonder if something similar could have happened on the Germanwings flight.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 25, 2015, 04:25:48 AM
Assuming the pilots were conscious at the time, . . .

This could explain why there was no distress signal. Before I speculate any further, I need to know if the Airbus crashed on impact, or disintegrated in the air. With such a controlled descent, I would bet that the "crash on impact" theory would hold up.

There was a report that the front wheel doors were "repaired" to correct a noise issue. Boy, if they failed at 38,000 feet . . .
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2015, 06:40:17 AM
Cockpit voice recorder damaged, requires "reconstitution" before it can be analyzed (http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_PLANE_CRASH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-24-09-07-08), meanwhile the search at the site continues, so much debris scattered and not much size...has to be just awfully gruesome work.

It seems there are two leading theories on what happened - pressurization failure requiring an immediate descent that could not be recovered or an intentional act, mostly because they are the only two logical choices for the rapid descent. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-24/crash-experts-face-mystery-of-eight-minute-drop-without-a-mayday)

Still saying the weather was mild, early pics seem to bear that out.  It probably doesn't change things for the families and friends of the victims, but I know if it was me I would rather like to know it was an accident and not an intentional act.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: trapeze on March 25, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
I have my money on intentional act.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: warpmine on March 25, 2015, 07:25:25 PM
Stuka training either that or faulty input data logged into flight computer so I'm going with something similar to that of the A340 that pitched into the Atlantic a few years back previously stated.

If it were terrorism, from pilot intentional, we'd know it by now. The Germans are nothing if not efficient.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 25, 2015, 07:37:36 PM
I have my money on intentional act.

Voice recorder shows one pilot was locked out of the cockpit, beating on the door for the other pilot to let him in, then trying to break the door down when there was no response. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0)

2 Options: Terrorism, or ill-timed medical incapacitation while one pilot happened to be outside the cockpit.

Thus far, they have not named the pilot. Bets? $$$
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 25, 2015, 08:16:14 PM
Think we might have a Muhammad in the cockpit?  Germanwings is a budget airline.  Apparently these airlines are able to offer low fares because they have pilots who essentially fly for free (to maintain their type ratings), and is also a common place of employment for foreigners trying to build experience.

Or maybe just a real German who happened to be real suicidal.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: robins111 on March 26, 2015, 06:31:48 AM
Think we might have a Muhammad in the cockpit?  Germanwings is a budget airline.  Apparently these airlines are able to offer low fares because they have pilots who essentially fly for free (to maintain their type ratings), and is also a common place of employment for foreigners trying to build experience.

Or maybe just a real German who happened to be real suicidal.

My money is a guy named Mo, was behind the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2015, 06:57:24 AM
Now they're saying the pilot descended intentionally.

What's his name?
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
No names released yet that I can tell, but they'll be digging into both pilots backgrounds extensively no doubt.

Ugh!  This is disturbing news.

The only thing that may throw a wrench into the Mo theory is the fact that the events around this time indicate all is normal and calm...then one pilot is locked out (and since 9/11 all cockpit access doors have been beefed up, right?) and cannot get in and there is no answer from within...no voice from within either, (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html) if a Mo was in there I would expect him to be muttering all that cultish bullsplatter they typically chant.

And now the data-recorder is found but missing its memory card.  Not sure if it will shed light on anything though given this new info...barring a mechanical issue we are back to what happened to the pilot still in the cockpit.

I supose incapacitation as a result of loss of pressure or something could have occured after the other pilot left the cockpit...but it is going to be hard to figure out what happened...not sure what kind of info could be found to glean that, but the results of the pilot background investigation should help flesh that out.

Maybe it was Mo who locked himself in set the descent and incapacitated himself...?

Need more info.

Meanwhile, the grim task of victim identification continues...

"The biggest body parts we identified are not bigger than a briefcase," one investigator said. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11494471/Germanwings-crash-Air-traffic-controllers-tried-three-times-to-radio-pilots-with-no-response.html)

Ugh, what a necessary but depressing task.  I hope those folks are given whatever resources they need to make their job easier to cope with.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 07:37:35 AM
Here we go...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150326_lubitz.jpg)
Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur  (Employed only a few months and only a few hundred hours of experience)

Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Not a Muzzie name, but...that doesn't mean anything...

Need more background on this guy and I bet people are going after it like ravenous sharks...

Andreas, you despicable bastard...Hells flames are your reward for this cowardly act.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: warpmine on March 26, 2015, 07:48:59 AM
Here we go...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150326_lubitz.jpg)
Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur  (Employed only a few months and only a few hundred hours of experience)

Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Not a Muzzie name, but...that doesn't mean anything...

Need more background on this guy and I bet people are going after it like ravenous sharks...

Andreas, you despicable bastard...Hell's flames are your reward for this cowardly act.
A day late I am with that link. OK, a few hours anyway.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 07:54:02 AM
Here we go...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150326_lubitz.jpg)
Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur  (Employed only a few months and only a few hundred hours of experience)

Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Not a Muzzie name, but...that doesn't mean anything...

Need more background on this guy and I bet people are going after it like ravenous sharks...

Andreas, you despicable bastard...Hells flames are your reward for this cowardly act.
A day late I am with that link. OK, a few hours anyway.

Huh?  I didn't step on your toes, did I? 


ETA - More info:

The Federal Aviation Administration's Airmen Certification Database contains the following listing:
 
UniqueID: A4833038
 FirstName: Andreas Guenter
 LastName: Lubitz
 Street1: Am Spiessweiher 8
 Street2: Montabaur
 City: Rheinland Pfalz
 State:
Zip: 56410
 Country: GERMANY
 Region: EU
 MedClass: 3
 MedDate: 062010
 MedExpDate: 062015
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html (http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html)
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: warpmine on March 26, 2015, 08:50:42 AM
Here we go...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150326_lubitz.jpg)
Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur  (Employed only a few months and only a few hundred hours of experience)

Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Not a Muzzie name, but...that doesn't mean anything...

Need more background on this guy and I bet people are going after it like ravenous sharks...

Andreas, you despicable bastard...Hells flames are your reward for this cowardly act.
A day late I am with that link. OK, a few hours anyway.

Huh?  I didn't step on your toes, did I? 


ETA - More info:

The Federal Aviation Administration's Airmen Certification Database contains the following listing:
 
UniqueID: A4833038
 FirstName: Andreas Guenter
 LastName: Lubitz
 Street1: Am Spiessweiher 8
 Street2: Montabaur
 City: Rheinland Pfalz
 State:
Zip: 56410
 Country: GERMANY
 Region: EU
 MedClass: 3
 MedDate: 062010
 MedExpDate: 062015
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html (http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html)
Oh, hell no. Just read it at the same site and was about to post until I saw it from you. I was an hour behind.

What kind of sick bastard that is 28 with whole life ahead, has a great job(assuming he likes to fly) decides to kill himself and 147 other with him?
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 26, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
I think some of these people who commit high profile suicides, taking a bunch of others with them, are of the same psychological state as the school shooters.  I bet the research into this guy will reveal a lot of the same traits that have become almost cliches at this point: withdrawn, borderline autistic type personality, etc.

The monkey wrench in this theory is that commercial pilots are supposed to undergo significant medical clearances to weed out this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 09:24:46 AM
Here we go...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/03-overflow/20150326_lubitz.jpg)
Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur  (Employed only a few months and only a few hundred hours of experience)

Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Not a Muzzie name, but...that doesn't mean anything...

Need more background on this guy and I bet people are going after it like ravenous sharks...

Andreas, you despicable bastard...Hells flames are your reward for this cowardly act.
A day late I am with that link. OK, a few hours anyway.

Huh?  I didn't step on your toes, did I? 


ETA - More info:

The Federal Aviation Administration's Airmen Certification Database contains the following listing:
 
UniqueID: A4833038
 FirstName: Andreas Guenter
 LastName: Lubitz
 Street1: Am Spiessweiher 8
 Street2: Montabaur
 City: Rheinland Pfalz
 State:
Zip: 56410
 Country: GERMANY
 Region: EU
 MedClass: 3
 MedDate: 062010
 MedExpDate: 062015
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html (http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html)
Oh, hell no. Just read it at the same site and was about to post until I saw it from you. I was an hour behind.

What kind of sick bastard that is 28 with whole life ahead, has a great job(assuming he likes to fly) decides to kill himself and 147 other with him?

Oh, OK.

Yeah, I dunno.  There has to be something in this guys background that can shed some light on this, it will be of little consequence to the pain and suffering of family and friends of the victims...but something snapped in this guys head.  Whatever it was it does not justify this heinous act, why people like this can never just go off and quietly kill themselves, why they have to pull others down with them, I will never understand.  Despicable, evil coward!
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 09:26:41 AM
I think some of these people who commit high profile suicides, taking a bunch of others with them, are of the same psychological state as the school shooters.  I bet the research into this guy will reveal a lot of the same traits that have become almost cliches at this point: withdrawn, borderline autistic type personality, etc.

The monkey wrench in this theory is that commercial pilots are supposed to undergo significant medical clearances to weed out this sort of thing.

Well, yeah...especially since 9/11...how did this guy slip through the cracks?  Three months ago he was normal, then SNAP!?  Who are his friends and neighbors, what changed?  There has to be clues...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: trapeze on March 26, 2015, 10:07:30 AM
Okay, so "intentional act" wins the pool.

The next question is motive.

I will put my money on insanity. It could be islam because religion of peace or something but I think insanity.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2015, 10:15:14 AM
Okay, so "intentional act" wins the pool.

The next question is motive.

I will put my money on insanity. It could be islam because religion of peace or something but I think insanity.

Apparently he took an unexplained months-long leave of absence during his pilot training.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
It's a very very short drive from insanity to Islam IMO...

But something isn't right here that's for sure...

I find it hard to believe somebody doesn't know something about what has been going on with this a-hole...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Predator Don on March 26, 2015, 11:50:28 AM
If he were muslim......he would have still got the job. If there is a hint of conversion activity with this guy...it will be buried. If he took a month off because he was depressed....in today's world he still gets the job.

Unfortunately, not sure what could have been done to prevent this horrible act, even if the evidence was present to keep him out of the co pilot seat.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Beyond deciding to get on a plane or not...

Somebody needs to invent the Infinite Improbability Drive...

Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Predator Don on March 26, 2015, 11:58:19 AM
Or not is resonating with me.....

Short the airline stocks.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Me too.  Trains, cars...boats...

Better survivability factors...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: warpmine on March 26, 2015, 01:20:24 PM
I think some of these people who commit high profile suicides, taking a bunch of others with them, are of the same psychological state as the school shooters.  I bet the research into this guy will reveal a lot of the same traits that have become almost cliches at this point: withdrawn, borderline autistic type personality, etc.

The monkey wrench in this theory is that commercial pilots are supposed to undergo significant medical clearances to weed out this sort of thing.
Get this, it was reported that this guy became burned out in 08' and went into a depression. Doesn't look like this guy had a commercial license just but he did have his license to glide which was just renewed last year. Whatever was the problem at root, it was missed.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: robins111 on March 26, 2015, 02:13:12 PM
Okay, so "intentional act" wins the pool.

The next question is motive.

I will put my money on insanity. It could be islam because religion of peace or something but I think insanity.

Either insanity, or a Rainbow hissy fit.. which is possible too
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 26, 2015, 02:57:16 PM
"Rainbow hissy fit ..." .

Well, he did have his pic made in San Francisco ...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-france-crash-idUSKBN0MN11N20150327 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-france-crash-idUSKBN0MN11N20150327)

Lufthansa gonna take a big hit on this...

If my kin was on that plane...I'd be going after them too...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2015, 07:49:25 AM
 ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::  ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::   ::siren::

News report - Lubitz converted to Islam!!! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-german-news-germanwings-airbus-co-pilot-was-muslim-convert/)

We should have known Obama was once more covering his pals!  This IS terrorism, classic Islamic terrorism of the most gutless kind!!!

Another non-random act of Islam...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Jihadi%20and%20Muslim/musatans_zpsgjp9trep.jpg)
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: warpmine on March 27, 2015, 09:22:07 AM
Well, there it is, it's all about Islam!
When will they learn? Like Liberalism/progressivism, the followers have to be f**king mentally ill for it to take hold. Surprised, not in the least although I was hoping that the poor Muslims wouldn't have to endure the ever present rhetoric of anti-Muslim prejudice.(Wait, who said that?)

Me thinks I'm having a stint at mental illness. I have the sudden desire to kill indiscriminately, face Mecca and pray five times a day. I've recently noticed I've begun to wipe my ass with my left hand. Oh sh*t, it's true, I'm a Muslim. ::laughonfloor::

These politically correct stupid bastards from the left running their countries into the ground never admit to being wrong  regarding the aspect Islamic immigration. Did they think King Phillip of Spain was fighting them 600 years ago because of their propensity to dress funny? ::oldman::



Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on March 27, 2015, 10:09:49 AM
Off topic, I know...

...but in New Jersey, we have designated hunting days to reduce the number of wild bear and deer...

...and Steve Jobs said that "creativity" was simply combining ideas in different ways.

#MaybeNotSoOffTopic.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 27, 2015, 10:19:21 AM
He just may be a Muzzie

http://www.conservativehq.com/node/19989 (http://www.conservativehq.com/node/19989)

FLASH: Germanwings Crash Pilot A Muslim Convert, Now Hero Of Islamic State?
CHQ Staff | 3/27/2015
 
Speisa.com reported that according to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Subsequently, a Facebook page was set up, Support for Andrew Lubitz, hero of the Islamic State.
The Facebook page has since been taken down, but our friend Pamela Geller captured a screengrab of the page before it was removed.

Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2015, 07:42:54 AM
She said: ‘When I heard about the crash, there was just a tape playing in my head of what he said: “One day I will do something that will change the system and everyone will then know my name and remember me”.
 
‘I did not know what he meant by that at the time, but now it’s clear.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015504/I-m-planning-heinous-act-remembered-forever-Killer-pilot-s-ex-girlfriend-says-shared-chilling-prophecy-Alps-crash-woke-nightmares-shouting-going-down.html#ixzz3Vs5zKvmY (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3015504/I-m-planning-heinous-act-remembered-forever-Killer-pilot-s-ex-girlfriend-says-shared-chilling-prophecy-Alps-crash-woke-nightmares-shouting-going-down.html#ixzz3Vs5zKvmY)

Yeah...thanks for not telling anybody...

And speculation sure to get the homo's enraged -

"It is not known why they split but it has been claimed their relationship broke down because he was secretly gay and was suffering torment over hiding his homosexuality.  One report claimed he was taunted by fellow pilots for previously being a 'trolley dolly' airline steward and dubbed 'Tomato Andy' - a derogatory gay slur - by colleagues."

"Police have ruled out any religious or political motive for the crash."

Well, sure...this is France...the nation that invented appeasing Muslims...if there was a Muslim link do you seriously think they would mention it publically?

There is speculation this girlfriend is Muslim.

And the Muslim community seems to have no problem embracing him as a martyr for their wicked cult - http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-praised-on-facebook-our-holy-martyr-lubitz-died-for-our-prophet.html/# (http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-praised-on-facebook-our-holy-martyr-lubitz-died-for-our-prophet.html/#)!

Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 30, 2015, 09:05:12 AM
The guy strikes me as definitely having homo tendencies.  He was by all accounts very fastidious and obsessed with exercise, and he also had a particular fixation on San Francisco -- others said he wanted to fly Lufthansa's long haul route to San Francisco, and a restaurant owner near his apartment said the guy had spoken to him in great detail about a recent trip to SF.  And look at that picture he took at the Golden Gate, is that a scarf he's wearing?  To me, all signs point to being light in the loafers.

And it's a well established fact that homosexuals have a much higher tendency for all forms of psychiatric illness.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Predator Don on March 30, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
So....he was a homo muslim....which meant he was targeted for death anyway. What better avenue than to command him to crash a plane.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 30, 2015, 06:54:37 PM
Damn! It was a rainbow hissy fit!
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 31, 2015, 04:55:59 AM
Report: Germanwings Co-Pilot Surfed Gay Porn and Suicide Websites Before Crash

Quote
This sheds new light on a seemingly minor detail from early reports: other pilots teased Lubitz by calling him “Tomato Andy” because he worked as a flight attendant before becoming a pilot. According to IBT, this was not merely an insulting reference to the food and beverage duties of a flight attendant; “Tomato” is an anti-gay slur in Germany, “based on the fact that while a tomato is thought to be a vegetable, it is really a fruit.”

Dang.

Read it here: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/30/report-germanwings-co-pilot-surfed-gay-porn-and-suicide-websites-before-crash/ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/30/report-germanwings-co-pilot-surfed-gay-porn-and-suicide-websites-before-crash/)
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 31, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
I bet that revelation really set of the alleged Muslim girlfriend, eh?

Whatever.

I don't care if the homo's are new to the race to Hell to see who can mass-murder more people...fed up with all of 'em!  Society and governments aren't doing jack to discourage either group...in fact they are fostering an environment that will lead to its growth and rate of horror!!!

This is what societies in terminal decline look like...
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Glock32 on March 31, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
I have to hand it to the Germans for the cleverness in that slang term.  I hope it catches on here.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on March 31, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Tomato Barry.

Damn, it does work.
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Septugenarian on March 31, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
Here is a radically different take on this.   Claims a lot of government created disinformation to deflect as usual.

http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.com/2015/03/germanwings-plane-crash-summary-of-jim.html (http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.com/2015/03/germanwings-plane-crash-summary-of-jim.html)

 Someone killed a big lie for me - the cockpit door!
A forward-opening hinge door separates the cockpit from the passenger compartment. It has three electric locking strikes, controlled by the flight crew. In normal conditions, when the door is closed, they remain locked. When there is a request to enter the cockpit, the flight crew can authorize entry by unlocking the door, that remains closed until it is pushed open. When the flight crew does not respond to requests for entry, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew, by entering a two to seven-digit code (programmed by the airline) on the keypad, installed on the lateral side of the Forward Attendant Panel (FAP).
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2015, 07:23:16 AM
Umm...so it's a Zionist plot carried out by French authorities for some unknown reason...?

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/Ngpph9yUOk3t8w7xhQz5WwfXo1_r1_500.jpg)

Is there any confirmation on the lockout, secret access and remote access aspects of this rant?
Title: Re: Lufthansa A320 Flight 4U9525 (Barcelona to Dusseldorf) Crashes In French Alps
Post by: Libertas on April 01, 2015, 11:45:26 AM
Just the description is chilling...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11508250/Video-shows-cabin-chaos-in-seconds-before-Alps-crash.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11508250/Video-shows-cabin-chaos-in-seconds-before-Alps-crash.html)