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Topics => General Board => Topic started by: RickZ on May 03, 2011, 06:49:12 PM
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[This comes from the insider 'Ulsterman'.]
Unbelievable. He honestly tried to vote present on this matter, like he's voted present on everything before. He was worried about failure negatively affecting his image, instead of thinking of being successful in taking out an avowed enemy of America. What a piece of crap, to have the intel and Seal people on hold for 16 hours while he slept on the decision to take out Bin Laden. Not so surprisingly, Hillary was for the take down of Bin laden, I guess learning from all the negative press Blow Job Billy received for turning down the Sudanese when they wanted to hand him over, as well as not allowing a surgical strike to take him out in Afghanistan. Disgusting, especially when juxtaposed with his 'I/my' speech Sunday night.
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/ (http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/)
A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…
Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.
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Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.
IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.
The killing of Osama Bin Laden was in fact a Coup within Obama WH.
Speaking with additional contacts RE info.
Stay safe.
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HC = Hillary Clinton
BD = Bill Daley
LP = Leon Panetta
CoC = Chain of Command/Commander in Chief
The above could be all bullsh*t, but given the previous actions of this White House, as well as the Daily Mail article quoted below, I tend to believe it. That 3 a.m. phone call was answered by Hillary not Obama, just like she said during the campaign. That's why in the picture of the situation room Obama looks so pensive. He had no control over the call, and was probably a good reason for the long delay in his scheduled press conference Sunday night: He had to take time to get himself inserted into the facts of the narrative. Our Feckless Leader.
* http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/good-grief-obama-took-16-hours-to-make-up-his-mind-to-get-osama-bin-laden/ (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/good-grief-obama-took-16-hours-to-make-up-his-mind-to-get-osama-bin-laden/)
He had to think about it.
The Daily Mail reported:
Barack Obama kept military commanders hanging by declaring he would ‘sleep on it’ before taking 16 hours to give the go-ahead to raid Bin Laden’s compound.
Hit squads of specialist Navy Seals – who were not even told who they were preparing to capture – had practiced the mission at two reconstructions of the terror chiefs sprawling compound.
The mission looked set to be given the all clear last Thursday when analysts confirmed beyond doubt that Bin Laden was in busy town of Abbottabad in northern Pakistan.
But the president stunned officials when he told a national security meeting that he wanted more time to think – and disappeared out of the room.
‘I’m not going to tell you what my decision is now – I’m going to go back and think about it some more,’ said Obama, according to the New York Times. He then added ‘I’m going to make a decision soon.’
The head of the CIA and other senior intelligence officers who were keen to proceed were left tense as they waited for the president’s decision.
But the next morning after 16 hours, Obama summoned four top aides to the White House Diplomatic Room. Before they could speak, the president put his fist on the table and declared ‘It’s a go’.
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I wonder what the hard Left will have to say about the Chimp-n-Chief's "My Pet Goat" moment. They'll probably fawn over how contemplative and serious he is - how he weighs and measures all the angles before making life and death decisions.
Blah blah frikkin blah. Can hardly take it.
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Pamela Geller has that same post at Atlas Shrugs (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/skulking-towards-bin-laden-obama-overridden-by-military-and-intel-officials-in-takeout-of-obl.html). Interesting, and quite believable given what we already know about Obama.
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Pamela Geller has that same post at Atlas Shrugs (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/skulking-towards-bin-laden-obama-overridden-by-military-and-intel-officials-in-takeout-of-obl.html). Interesting, and quite believable given what we already know about Obama.
Valerie Jarrett, the skank behind the throne.
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ACE sums the situation up well.........
Here (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/315658.php)
7 Minutes Vs. 16 Hours: How The Media Reports Delay
George Bush was relentlessly mocked for waiting seven minutes (actually waiting for his security detail to ready the exit and for his vehicle to be readied) before leaving the school he was visiting. He calmly finished reading My Pet Goat for the kids before going to his now-ready helicopter.
On the other hand, after Obama was told (most likely for the fifteenth time) that the CIA was really, really, really quite confident that Osama bin Ladin was at that compound in Abbottabad, he decided he needed to sleep on it.
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This link came from a commenter on Hot Air, but I believe it is essentially the same. Knowing this pretender, it could just be possible. It could also be BS. Wish it could be confirmed.
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/ (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/)
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Here is an even better Ace of Spades post.
Telegraph, Citing WikiLeaks: Break In Hunt for Bin Ladin May Have Been Provided By Not Only Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, But by Enhanced Interrogation Techniques Performed On An Al Qaeda Operative Captured in Iraq (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/315642.php)
In other words, it was Bush-era policies that set up this opportunity.
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Look at the war room picture. O'Presidente' is the smallest man person in the room. Then enlarge it and read his eyes. Hint: He ain't worried about the SEALS.
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By the way, I heard Rush allude to this earlier today. He said he didn't want to give out the website because he didn't know if it was reputable. But he did say "She says..." which led me to believe he was talking about Pam's site.
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Here's the picture, maybe they won't mind.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/05/03/879590binladenobamawarroom_1.jpg)
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/ (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/)
he's having bad thoughts
ETA: President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.”
Read more: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLYXENLJ (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLYXENLJ)
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Believe me, I want to think the very worst of this pretender president. But I have a hard time with anonymous "insider" sourcing. I want my loathing to be fact-based and sourced.
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/05/03/879590binladenobamawarroom_1.jpg)
Who is that little kid to the Air Force Guy's right?
Yer kiddin me. The President? No Sh!t! Looks kinda puny to be the MEssiah . . .
edited to clarify. going to bed now . . .
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If this is ever proven to be true, IDP is exactly right, they will simply spin the narrative that it actually proves what an above-average leader he is. His encompassing, deep intellect mulls every possibility and considers the potential follow-on effects several degrees removed. Not like that rash, shoots-from-the-hip cowboy before him, no no.
::puke::
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IDP,
I understand your trepidation concerning this story. But remember Obama had to be pulled off the golf course on Sunday while the operation was underway. That speaks volumes on many levels, the most serious one being that he wasn't serious. He cannot handle the day to day details of being President, he just likes the perks. This guy knew since last August that a decision might have to be made, that the intel might be better than good and require action. Did he prepare for that decision? Hell no, he voted 'Present!' once again. I also think the reason for the delay of his speech Sunday night was due to his speechwriters having to write Obama into the narrative, hence all the I's and me's.
Based upon Barry's shoddy history, I believe this story.
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Well, I'm not saying President Made-a-Poopie isn't a pathetic waste of skin who's in way over his head in the most important job in the world. I just wanna see a name attached to that source before I accept the story at face value. I'm getting so tired of narratives. I ache for truth.
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I ache for truth.
Ditto
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The fact that any story, especially a coup de White House, even exists speaks to the weakness of HisHighness. Just as the story of the event "evolves" through many manifestations so will the story of preparations evolve. I do enjoy reading them.
it does seem as though the insider is Hillary's man
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The fact that any story, especially a coup de White House, even exists speaks to the weakness of HisHighness. Just as the story of the event "evolves" through many manifestations so will the story of preparations evolve. I do enjoy reading them.
I thought the same today--the weakness is so obvious that it's easy for these stories to pop up and seem believable
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The fact that any story, especially a coup de White House, even exists speaks to the weakness of HisHighness.
It's also dangerous. Ambiguity about who's really in charge, a president who can be cowed by subordinates, it's a classic recipe for trouble.
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Believe me, I want to think the very worst of this pretender president. But I have a hard time with anonymous "insider" sourcing. I want my loathing to be fact-based and sourced.
Okay , IDP ... Here are two "Facts" ... First , the "courage" and "risk" on the part of our president was purely political . Second , the "Courage" and "risk" on the part of our Navy SEALs was purely physical and personal .
I'm getting heartily sick of hearing the MSM describe Stymie as if he's the reincarnation of Audie Murphy ! ::cussing::
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One would think that the smartest guy in the room would be able to make a sound decision about the mission in a snap. Now, we find that President MEssiah agonized for 16 hours. Yeah, Barry, it's tough at the top. Know what he was thinking for sixteen hours? No, not his golf game. Not the price of gasoline. For sixteen hours, two words occupied the President's mind:
Desert One.
Desert One.
Desert One.
The President of the United States was about to make a decision that would require that he place the future of his presidency and any hopes for re-election, into the hands of a bunch of young kids. Young military professionals. The very group of soldiers he and his fellow travelers have been reviling his entire adult life . . .
Delicious irony.
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Desert One.
The big difference is that Carter had to go with boots on the ground as the mission was to rescue alive our hostages. Obama had no such concern as killing Obama from afar would have sufficed. Plus, our pinpoint military technology has improved quite a bit since 1979, not to mention our stealth technology. Obama needlessly put into harm's way a Seal team when a targeted air strike would have done the trick. Of course, doing that would not have provided proof that Bin Laden was dead, but then we don't have proof now that Bin Laden is dead. Who can do DNA analysis in less than 24 hours? And why dump the body in the ocean? That whole 'buried according to muslim customs' is bullsh*t. Obama himself said he wasn't a muslim leader. So which was it: Osama's a muslim leader or not a muslim leader? And did Osama make allowance for the proper Christian burial of those who were incinerated on 9/11, or even the ones who jumped over 80 stories to their deaths? Where was Osama's concern? Oh right, we have to have all the concern and follow that oh so important Geneva Convention while the brutal terrorist murderers get a pass on following that document.
The best thing about this op is showing up Pakistan. Anything that makes Pakistan look weak and ineffective can only help India (a country which is more of a natural ally to us than Pakistan can ever be). Showing up Pakistan might also get the billions in US monetary aid to them cut off which, in our fiscal crisis, can only be viewed as a good thing.
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Right now India's "natural ally" is Russia and Red China . We need to work on that .
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Desert One.
The big difference is that Carter had to go with boots on the ground as the mission was to rescue alive our hostages. Obama had no such concern as killing Obama from afar would have sufficed.
Total agreement. My point is that Obama knew that mission failure resulting with American casualties, would kill his legacy and any hopes for election in 2012.
(Note: The creation of Seal Team 6 was a direct result of the failure of Desert One.)
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Right now India's "natural ally" is Russia and Red China . We need to work on that .
Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan for so long and for possibly up to 6 years in a compound just a mile away from their West Point ought to give us a buttload of leverage with our wayward anti-terror friends, eh? What better place to start than cozying up to India?
;)
As for Obamakov waiting 16 hours to act, sleeping on it ::speechless:: it is indicative of what a poor leader this idiot is! 16 hours? It would've taken anybody else 16 seconds tops!
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How do you like that lazy bastard sleeping sixteen hours a day ! There oughta be a law ! ::facepalm::
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How do you like that lazy bastard sleeping sixteen hours a day ! There oughta be a law ! ::facepalm::
Who is he sleeping with, now that Rahm is gone?
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Oh, and I guess after 16 hours he couldn't come up with a better code name?!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_geronimo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_geronimo)
::hysterical::
I guess he felt he was honoring Bin Laden by linking him with a reveared Indian warrior chief!
Some of his multi-culti/diversity/pc pals disagree!
::hysterical::
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How do you like that lazy bastard sleeping sixteen hours a day ! There oughta be a law ! ::facepalm::
Who is he sleeping with, now that Rahm is gone?
Jay Carney ( look at his pursed lips ) . ::puke::
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Oh, and I guess after 16 hours he couldn't come up with a better code name?!
/quote]
Joe Biden suggested "Tonto" but was over ruled .
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Oh, and I guess after 16 hours he couldn't come up with a better code name?!
/quote]
Joe Biden suggested "Tonto" but was over ruled .
Whoa Kemosabe!
::hysterical::
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that the media feels it has to go overboard on showcasing BO's courage etc is proof BO doesn't have any
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Obama is in danger of being buried alive with all the MFM room keys and panties being thrown his way!
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They're trying so hard to recapture the magic in time for 2012 that they're going to inadvertently highlight all the ways he's failed to live up to the messianic image they created the first time around.
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Obama is in danger of being buried alive with all the MFM room keys and panties being thrown his way!
I'm listening right now to Beck playing clips of the MFM's repeated confusing of Obama with Osama over the last few days. It's astounding how many there are and some of them came from the WH press itself.
Something karmic about the two names being so similar at this point in time.
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Something karmic about the two names being so similar at this point in time.
I'd say so.
As I pointed out in the other day on another thread they both share a similar dysfunctional background--daddy issues.
I'm listening to Beck now too--almost on the floor with laughter
Obama Bin Laden ::laughonfloor::
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Yeah, that Obama Bin Laden thing was a hoot!
::laughonfloor::
The useful idiots commenting on Twitter asking who Bin Laden is...swings me the other way!
::gaah::
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
*ahem*
She said she called him. I know for a fact she's a shameless liar; I'd say we all do. When I hear confirmation from Bush or his people, then I'll believe it.
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
Maybe she's just trying to deflect as many of the holy hell charges of hypocrisy coming her way as possible...
Compare and Contrast (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/05/028953.php)
Nancy Pelosi, press conference, September 7, 2006:
[blockquote][E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done ... is done. And even to capture him now I don't think makes us any safer.[/blockquote]
Nancy Pelosi, [May 2nd]:
[blockquote]The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. ... I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. ... [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic....[/blockquote]
HT: powerline
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Black-souled proglodytes, penny/dozen...
::mooning::
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
*ahem*
She said she called him. I know for a fact she's a shameless liar; I'd say we all do. When I hear confirmation from Bush or his people, then I'll believe it.
mmm Politically, it doesn't matter whether she did or didn't call him, it's part of the public record and her motivation for it to be public knowledge is still a point of consideration.
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
*ahem*
She said she called him. I know for a fact she's a shameless liar; I'd say we all do. When I hear confirmation from Bush or his people, then I'll believe it.
mmm Politically, it doesn't matter whether she did or didn't call him, it's part of the public record and her motivation for it to be public knowledge is still a point of consideration.
I don't care and I disagree.
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
*ahem*
She said she called him. I know for a fact she's a shameless liar; I'd say we all do. When I hear confirmation from Bush or his people, then I'll believe it.
mmm Politically, it doesn't matter whether she did or didn't call him, it's part of the public record and her motivation for it to be public knowledge is still a point of consideration.
I see what you're saying, and I agree. The fact that Pelosi believes it is in her best interest politically to try to rewrite her past shameless statements is telling. She is motivated to be seen as making a gesture toward President Bush, and whether she did or didn't make the phone call, she wants people to believe she did. That is worthy of consideration when observing how these Leftists contort and gyrate to wriggle out of their old skin. This action against bin Laden has turned everything they've said and done for a decade on its head, and this action by Pelosi is one example of how they're gonna try to deal with it.
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Well, pigs have flown and I'm gobsmacked.
Nancy Pelosi called Bush and congratulated him on the capture and killing of Bin Laden. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/159031-pelosi-thanks-bush-for-his-part-in-bin-ladens-downfall-) Either she's been taken over by Pod Person with integrity or something has seriously spooked her. Perhaps there is some credence to the theory that Obama attempted to thwart efforts to get Bin Laden but a quiet coup overruled him.
*ahem*
She said she called him. I know for a fact she's a shameless liar; I'd say we all do. When I hear confirmation from Bush or his people, then I'll believe it.
mmm Politically, it doesn't matter whether she did or didn't call him, it's part of the public record and her motivation for it to be public knowledge is still a point of consideration.
I see what you're saying, and I agree. The fact that Pelosi believes it is in her best interest politically to try to rewrite her past shameless statements is telling. She is motivated to be seen as making a gesture toward President Bush, and whether she did or didn't make the phone call, she wants people to believe she did. That is worthy of consideration when observing how these Leftists contort and gyrate to wriggle out of their old skin. This action against bin Laden has turned everything they've said and done for a decade on its head, and this action by Pelosi is one example of how they're gonna try to deal with it.
Which is exactly my point. She lies, they all lie. Everything they say is a lie, including "and" and "the". The only instructive thing is that in the face of all current events, the lies continue.
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...Which is exactly my point. She lies, they all lie. Everything they say is a lie, including "and" and "the". The only instructive thing is that in the face of all current events, the lies continue.
Not much to argue with there. But I would just point out that before, Pelosi was lying about President Bush. Now because of harsh reality, she's forced to lie about her previous lies, and make some kind of move toward Bush, no matter how disingenuous. No doubt she'll resort to newer lies as circumstances change.
I would posit that watching them squirm as they try to adjust to this new reality gives us ammunition, insight, and a wee bit of schadenfreude. The Democrats have literally provided a decades worth of campaign commercials for the GOP, and this killing of bin Laden and the obvious discord with the Leftist narrative on the Bush years twists the knife. If the GOP can't capitalize on it, they're as hopeless as we think they are.
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...Which is exactly my point. She lies, they all lie. Everything they say is a lie, including "and" and "the". The only instructive thing is that in the face of all current events, the lies continue.
Not much to argue with there. But I would just point out that before, Pelosi was lying about President Bush. Now because of harsh reality, she's forced to lie about her previous lies, and make some kind of move toward Bush, no matter how disingenuous. No doubt she'll resort to newer lies as circumstances change.
I would posit that watching them squirm as they try to adjust to this new reality gives us ammunition, insight, and a wee bit of schadenfreude. The Democrats have literally provided a decades worth of campaign commercials for the GOP, and this killing of bin Laden and the obvious discord with the Leftist narrative on the Bush years twists the knife. If the GOP can't capitalize on it, they're as hopeless as we think they are.
I see what you're saying here, particularly about the GOP, keeping in mind that they are the "us" to whom has been provided the aforesaid ammunition, so not a given. *Stupid party*.
I'm missing the "insight" part. They lie, we know they lie, and then they lie about the lies, with the LSM ignoring it all. Where's the benefit to us and further insight?
The only upside would be if Bush denied she ever made the call, and I doubt he'd do that.
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It's a tell and if leadership had a clue they could use it.
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...Which is exactly my point. She lies, they all lie. Everything they say is a lie, including "and" and "the". The only instructive thing is that in the face of all current events, the lies continue.
Not much to argue with there. But I would just point out that before, Pelosi was lying about President Bush. Now because of harsh reality, she's forced to lie about her previous lies, and make some kind of move toward Bush, no matter how disingenuous. No doubt she'll resort to newer lies as circumstances change.
I would posit that watching them squirm as they try to adjust to this new reality gives us ammunition, insight, and a wee bit of schadenfreude. The Democrats have literally provided a decades worth of campaign commercials for the GOP, and this killing of bin Laden and the obvious discord with the Leftist narrative on the Bush years twists the knife. If the GOP can't capitalize on it, they're as hopeless as we think they are.
I see what you're saying here, particularly about the GOP, keeping in mind that they are the "us" to whom has been provided the aforesaid ammunition, so not a given. *Stupid party*.
I'm missing the "insight" part. They lie, we know they lie, and then they lie about the lies, with the LSM ignoring it all. Where's the benefit to us and further insight?
The only upside would be if Bush denied she ever made the call, and I doubt he'd do that.
As one example, the article I linked at powerline (last post on page 2 of this thread) gives us an "A/B" comparison of the before and after Pelosi. It shows her in her own words to be a pathetic, opportunistic, shameless liar.
You and I know this, and most conservatives who follow politics know this. But now she's been forced to place it squarely out in the open, and given the proper light (hello, GOP?) her own twisting and contorting to meld with this new post-bin Laden assassination reality can provide increased insight to the public at large, as well as give us (meaning wonks and GOP operatives) ammunition with which to form our own strategy going forward.
That's why I think Pelosi's false praise for Bush is relevant. Bin Laden's assassination has changed the game, and forced Leftists into corners they don't want to be in. her proclamation of a call to Bush is indicative of it.
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Here's the picture, maybe they won't mind.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/05/03/879590binladenobamawarroom_1.jpg)
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/ (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/)
he's having bad thoughts
ETA: President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.”
Read more: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLYXENLJ (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLYXENLJ)
According to Mark Levin, live-stream video was interrupted, thus the reason for the jumbled, contradictory reports of just what went down, which makes this photo highly suspect, according to The Great One.
There are some who believe the feed "went down" so a halt could not be called by the smallest person in the room.
No link.
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If the photo was contrived HisHighness would appear more presidential. You know, with a telephone in his hand, not as the smallest person in the room. Not saying what they were watching just saying that photo is not set up.
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If the photo was contrived HisHighness would appear more presidential. You know, with a telephone in his hand, not as the smallest person in the room. Not saying what they were watching just saying that photo is not set up.
But if someone said hey, BO look concerned and presidential I'm afraid that's what he'd come up with!
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If the photo was contrived HisHighness would appear more presidential. You know, with a telephone in his hand, not as the smallest person in the room. Not saying what they were watching just saying that photo is not set up.
I don't believe it was contrived, I just don't believe it truthfully portrays what they intended.
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Here's the actual pic that coincides with the media narrative of how things transpired.
(http://www.moonbattery.com/all-obama.jpg)
H/T - Moonbattery
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Here's the actual pic that coincides with the media narrative of how things transpired.
(http://www.moonbattery.com/all-obama.jpg)
H/T - Moonbattery
::hysterical:: That's funny as hell.....Is that a pic of michelle sitting on the laptop?
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Here's the actual pic that coincides with the media narrative of how things transpired.
(http://www.moonbattery.com/all-obama.jpg)
H/T - Moonbattery
I'll be damned if that doesn't look like a scene from "Planet Of The Apes" !
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No, Second movie, "Beneath the Planet of the Apes", at the rally for General Ursus ::hysterical::
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Here's the actual pic that coincides with the media narrative of how things transpired.
(http://www.moonbattery.com/all-obama.jpg)
H/T - Moonbattery
I'll be damned if that doesn't look like a scene from "Planet Of The Apes" !
::hysterical:: ::rolllaughing:: ::laughonfloor::