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Title: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-26/venezuela-said-to-ready-larger-bank-notes-as-inflation-soars (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-26/venezuela-said-to-ready-larger-bank-notes-as-inflation-soars)

Once you start printing larger denomination fiat...you might as well just give up.  Ask Zimbabwe how that worked out.

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Economics%20and%20Finance/ZWipe_zps66d2ce26.jpg)

tHugo's leftist legacy reaching fruition.  Angry mobs should dig his dead ass up and mutilate it and hoist it up in the central square!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2015, 07:15:45 AM
Another preview of Obamaworld...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-30/80-year-old-woman-trampled-death-venezuela-supermarket-stampede (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-30/80-year-old-woman-trampled-death-venezuela-supermarket-stampede)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: richb on September 01, 2015, 03:34:42 PM
The sad thing about both Venezuela and Zimbabwe,  neither were poor nations before their current "leadership".  Now they are both basket cases. 

My local library has a travel video produced before Zimbabwe went off the tracks.   It was once a pretty nice place to visit.   
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 04, 2016, 07:27:27 AM
The oil collapse is part of it...but hey they can bitch to the Saud's all they want...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/204fc996-c8d5-11e5-a8ef-ea66e967dd44.html#axzz3zCk6nVnS (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/204fc996-c8d5-11e5-a8ef-ea66e967dd44.html#axzz3zCk6nVnS)

A cautionary tale of socialism and despotism run amok...a cautionary tale if there ever was one.

I like the comment posted by perfessa - "Those ignorant young souls climbing aboard the Bernie Sanders wagon are too young to remember communism but should be forced to read about countries like Venezuela, Ecuador and their contemporaries. Socialism/progressivism/communism----all the same crapola"

But stupid is stupid...and the stupid here will merely say "They didn't get it right, we're smarter".

More crapola!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 05, 2016, 07:21:48 AM
The situation in Venezuela has become so bad that even soldiers are struggling to support themselves.

Over the weekend, six members of the Venezuelan military were detained by local authorities for stealing goats, the Venezuelan newspaper El Nacional reported Sunday. It said the soldiers confessed to stealing the goats and said they did it to feed themselves, since they had no food left in their barracks.

“It’s not a good sign when your military doesn’t have enough food, and when the military has been relegated to guarding and protecting food lines,” said Jason Marczak, director of the Latin America Economic Growth Initiative at the Atlantic Council. “This is endemic of the problems going on across the country.”

http://www.weaselzippers.us/269858-how-bad-is-it-in-venezuela-soldiers-are-stealing-goats-to-eat/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/269858-how-bad-is-it-in-venezuela-soldiers-are-stealing-goats-to-eat/)

No shyt?  it's not a good sign when droves of people are starving.  This is about to get really nasty.  But hey, it's not socialism's fault, the fault is in the implementation not the ideology, right?!

Morons.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: AlanS on May 05, 2016, 08:47:09 AM
And the morons here can't see us heading down that rabbit hole.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 05, 2016, 08:49:00 AM
When you head is in the hole and all you see is walls...it's hard to see anything else.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
A glimpse into our not to distant socialist utopia...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/05/11/20160512_VENZ1.jpg)

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/05/13/saqueos-venezuela_0.jpg)

http://youtu.be/YG7lMJJOOdc (http://youtu.be/YG7lMJJOOdc)

http://www.infowars.com/scenes-from-the-venezuela-apocalypse-countless-wounded-after-5000-loot-supermarket-looking-for-food/ (http://www.infowars.com/scenes-from-the-venezuela-apocalypse-countless-wounded-after-5000-loot-supermarket-looking-for-food/)

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: richb on May 16, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
the blocking streets thing has already come to be.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2016, 07:13:20 AM
Venezuelan opposition leader Henrique Capriles said the army must decide whether it is "with the constitution or with (President Nicolas)Maduro"

Venezuela's opposition leader urged his country on Tuesday to defy a state of emergency decreed by the government as it grapples with an acute political and economic crisis.

Henrique Capriles spoke as the opposition-controlled congress prepared to debate the sweeping measures ordered by President Nicolas Maduro.

He said lawmakers will probably reject Maduro's plan, and that if the government insists the decree remain in force, "it is up to us... to ignore this decree."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/opposition-leader-urges-venezuelans-defy-state-emergency-131853542.html?ref=gs (https://www.yahoo.com/news/opposition-leader-urges-venezuelans-defy-state-emergency-131853542.html?ref=gs)

At least folks there are trying to stand up to their tyrant...wish we could say the same thing here...   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on May 18, 2016, 05:57:01 PM
 We've seen it over and over but it seems we don't learn! at least half of the country doesn't learn.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
Check this out - http://www.weaselzippers.us/272475-venezuelan-mob-burns-man-alive-for-allegedly-stealing-5/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/272475-venezuelan-mob-burns-man-alive-for-allegedly-stealing-5/)

A lesson for the looters here, for when our shat hits the oscillating multi-blade unit.   ;)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on June 01, 2016, 12:30:32 PM
I don't know what these pendejos are bitching about...nothing can be quintessentially socialist than long lines, empty shelves and skyrocketing prices.

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-venezuela-lines-20160530-snap-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-venezuela-lines-20160530-snap-story.html)

Suck it up, retardados!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on July 12, 2016, 07:18:57 AM
Life in a collapsing socialist utopia just keeps getting more special every day...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7c0464c1dd404aca99458a8a19930bad/life-line-venezuela-economic-crisis-worsens (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7c0464c1dd404aca99458a8a19930bad/life-line-venezuela-economic-crisis-worsens)

To socialism!   ::beertoast::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2016, 07:47:03 AM
You know you are in a collapsing socialist utopia, when...

People begin using the local zoo as a supermarket. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/288443-socialism-is-great-its-getting-so-bad-in-venezuela-people-are-eating-zoo-animals/)

Mmm, pigs, sheep and horses...oh my!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
Oh, and what do total effing idiots do when socialism fails?

I bet you didn't guess go harder with more socialism!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-09/last-ditch-effort-save-economy-venezuela%E2%80%99s-maduro-hires-marxist-%E2%80%9Cjesus-christ-econom (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-09/last-ditch-effort-save-economy-venezuela%E2%80%99s-maduro-hires-marxist-%E2%80%9Cjesus-christ-econom)

Hilarious.  It's going to get a lot worse now.

Oh, and BTW I don't think Jesus wants anything to do with this a-hole, Marx or any stinking God-hating leftist puke, so knock that crap off!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: ToddF on August 09, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
I predict cannibalism in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 10, 2016, 07:40:46 AM
Just like the People's Paradise of North Korea...
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 07:34:52 AM
Trial?  Like this douche will show! 

"Legally, the National Assembly does not exist,"

"In Venezuela we are battling Satan!"

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/10/25/Venezuela-lawmakers-approve-criminal-trial-for-Maduro-as-crisis-deepens/2491477428705/?spt=mps&or=4 (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/10/25/Venezuela-lawmakers-approve-criminal-trial-for-Maduro-as-crisis-deepens/2491477428705/?spt=mps&or=4)

Damn!  Obama acts like Congress doesn't exist and we know we are battling Satan here!  Hey, should we maybe be doing more?

Oh, right...Pubbies...Presstitutes and Progs, oh my!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Glock32 on October 27, 2016, 11:11:16 AM
I wonder if Maduro has ever seen a certain video that was broadcast as a Christmas present to the Romanian people in 1989?
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2016, 12:19:28 PM
I wonder if Maduro has ever seen a certain video that was broadcast as a Christmas present to the Romanian people in 1989?

Oh jeez... Diet Dew nasal cavity cleansing!

 ::thumbsup::

Merry Christmas fothermucker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-JrjCRkhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-JrjCRkhI)

Yup.  Sometimes the right people get what they deserve.   ;)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 07:26:37 AM
Having thrown in the towel on hyperinflation by printing banknotes with 200-times-higher denominations, Bloomberg reports that things in Venezuela have continued to get worse with the currency now so devalued (with even simple purchases requiring so many bills) that instead of counting bills, they are weighing them.

Once one of the world’s strongest currencies, the bolivar has been reduced to a nuisance. Basic purchases require hundreds of bills. Shoppers shove piles of them into gym bags before venturing into crime-plagued streets and shopkeepers stash thousands in boxes and overflowing drawers. In the absence of official data, economists are left to guess what the inflation rate is. Estimates for this year range from 200 percent to 1,500 percent.

At a delicatessen counter in eastern Caracas, Humberto Gonzalez removes slices of salty white cheese from his scale and replaces them with a stack of bolivar notes handed over by his customer.

“It’s sad," Gonzalez says. "At this point, I think the cheese is worth more.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-31/i-feel-pablo-escobar-venezuelans-resort-weighing-cash-hyperinflation-builds (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-31/i-feel-pablo-escobar-venezuelans-resort-weighing-cash-hyperinflation-builds)

The fugly is about to get fuglier.

Of course the "it can never happen here" folks will fire up their refrain...

Yup, everybody thinks that way...till they don't.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 01, 2016, 07:40:17 AM


Of course the "it can never happen here" folks will fire up their refrain...

Yup, everybody thinks that way...till they don't.

Or they define it so it hasn't...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/venezuela%E2%80%99s-inflation-%E2%80%93-zero-hedge-repeats-errors-printed-ad-nauseam-financial-press (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/venezuela%E2%80%99s-inflation-%E2%80%93-zero-hedge-repeats-errors-printed-ad-nauseam-financial-press)

Quote
As the accompanying chart shows, Venezuela’s inflation is not about ready to break out in hyperinflation, but has decelerated dramatically from annual rates exceeding 700 percent in 2015 to today’s still punishing rate of 74.4 percent.

By the way, for those who play fast and loose with the word “hyperinflation,” the hyperinflation threshold is 12,875 percent, year over year.

So its not "hyper-inflation" because someone picked some arbitrary high inflation rate. See, Socialism isn't a disaster :)
Sure they are weighing cash for payment but don't irresponsibility thorw around words like hyperinflation to describe it.

Obviously the Tylers thought  it was funny.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2016, 07:57:06 AM
I'm sure those definitions impress the people on the streets trying to survive...yeah, I bet they think "Oh, so it isn't so bad?" and not "sh*t, it's gonna get worse!"!

 ::hysterical::

Even a people as bred into socialism as latter day Soviets knew the jig was up...

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Glock32 on November 01, 2016, 10:03:11 PM
Yeah defining things out of existence is one of the Left's favorite tactics.  It gets back to this idea they have that they can set reality by stating so.

Weighing stacks of currency sounds a lot like Weimar marks being used as wallpaper and firewood.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Glock32 on November 01, 2016, 10:14:03 PM
Yeah the comments are a hoot.  "What part of weighing cash instead of counting it does he not get?"  Another guy pointed out that a real world definition of hyperinflation probably includes that point when your country cannot even import toilet paper.  Though on that point it occurs to me that one of their problems presents a solution to the other.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2016, 06:51:06 AM
Just keep moving that decimal place out.

 ::hysterical::

More silly news...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/01/venezuela-is-telling-hungry-city-dwellers-to-grow-their-own-food/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/01/venezuela-is-telling-hungry-city-dwellers-to-grow-their-own-food/)

A bit late...and...guess those city folk just need to give up and die so others can live.  They might need help with the latter and I bet Maduro would be glad to help...if he is a true socialist looking out for the greater good...
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2016, 07:48:19 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_CURRENCY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-04-10-06-58 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_CURRENCY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-04-10-06-58)

500-20,000?

Stop pussy-footing around!  Go for 50,000-100,000!  You'll be full 1B Zimbabwe soon! 

More is better, right?!

 ::hysterical::

Socialism...it's a killer!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 10, 2017, 08:02:27 AM
This is swell...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/318627-socialism-success-story-venezuelans-go-hungry-army-begins-selling-food-illegally/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/318627-socialism-success-story-venezuelans-go-hungry-army-begins-selling-food-illegally/)

...it should add to the scarcity, cause jealous desperate rage and bring the end closer to reality.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2017, 07:38:54 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/01/news/economy/venezuela-cash/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/01/news/economy/venezuela-cash/index.html)

Shouldn't be long now...unless some fellow traveler nation throws it a bone...
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 04, 2017, 08:37:19 AM
Maduro completes the United Socialist Party's coup!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/30/americas/venezuela-dissolves-national-assembly/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/30/americas/venezuela-dissolves-national-assembly/index.html)

Presstitutes here have to love that huh?  I wonder if they would love it if Trump did it?

(snort!)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2017, 07:33:04 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/333332-thousands-of-venezuelans-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-the-ban-on-the-opposition-leader/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/333332-thousands-of-venezuelans-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-the-ban-on-the-opposition-leader/)

When's our turn?
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 10, 2017, 08:35:50 AM
http://www.weaselzippers.us/333332-thousands-of-venezuelans-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-the-ban-on-the-opposition-leader/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/333332-thousands-of-venezuelans-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-the-ban-on-the-opposition-leader/)

When's our turn?

When our turn comes the thousands will be armed, in small groups, and hunting rabbits. ( of the R/k variety) 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 17, 2017, 07:52:50 AM
Talk about bravery.

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-venezuela-capriles-2017-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-venezuela-capriles-2017-story.html)

Trying to win a rigged election in a thugocracy?  Likely to be snuffed by thugcrats?

Man, that is some cajones!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on April 17, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
  I had customers from Venezuela and they were tilling me how people there are loosing weight from lack of food.  Maduro claims he made the population healthier . So they starve and the spin is you're healthier for it.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
Well by that effed up logic people in North Korea are the healthiest on the planet.

 ::facepalm::

I wouldn't be surprised if their main food source is each other...beats eating bark and bugs I suppose...

http://rachelaaron.net/soylent/soyryb.html (http://rachelaaron.net/soylent/soyryb.html)

 ::facepalm::

http://www.weaselzippers.us/334973-idiot-candidate-running-for-uk-parliament-says-north-korea-and-cuba-are-best-at-fighting-obesity/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/334973-idiot-candidate-running-for-uk-parliament-says-north-korea-and-cuba-are-best-at-fighting-obesity/)

Dude?!  I was effing joking!!! 

Leftists truly are brain-dead!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: richb on April 20, 2017, 05:41:40 PM
Looks like they nationalized a GM plant.   I guess they were tired of making vehicles. 

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2017/04/20/general-motore-venezuela-government/100703354/ (http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2017/04/20/general-motore-venezuela-government/100703354/)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on April 20, 2017, 07:22:48 PM
Looks like they nationalized a GM plant.   I guess they were tired of making vehicles. 

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2017/04/20/general-motore-venezuela-government/100703354/ (http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2017/04/20/general-motore-venezuela-government/100703354/)

 All the got is a building and what cars were in the parking lot.  You can't build sh*t without parts. More hungry mouths to feed.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2017, 07:52:03 AM
http://fox40.com/2017/04/21/venezuela-only-has-10-billion-left-in-reserves/ (http://fox40.com/2017/04/21/venezuela-only-has-10-billion-left-in-reserves/)

Tick...toc..
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2017, 06:31:21 AM
“La Marcha de la Mierda”

"Puputov cocktails"

"Crapapults"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-10/venezuelan-protesters-unleash-poop-bombs-currency-collapses-995 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-10/venezuelan-protesters-unleash-poop-bombs-currency-collapses-995)

Heh!

It's about time people give back what they've been getting for decades!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on July 12, 2017, 07:42:28 AM
Not quite MadMax...but...

https://youtu.be/eOQfDMTlDjI (https://youtu.be/eOQfDMTlDjI)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/meanwhile-venezuela-real-mad-max-emerges (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/meanwhile-venezuela-real-mad-max-emerges)

Ferals on cycles looking for looting opportunities...

Ferguson on Wheels...

This is what socialist utopias really look like...one side of them anyways...
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on July 12, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
  Amazing!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2017, 07:44:33 AM
So, who is going under first? 

Venezuela?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/time-has-come-venezuela-may-be-default-under-48-hours (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/time-has-come-venezuela-may-be-default-under-48-hours)

Or Illinois?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10681.msg167222;topicseen#msg167222 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10681.msg167222;topicseen#msg167222)

Perhaps the better questions are:  Does it matter and WGAF?
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on October 26, 2017, 07:12:04 PM
So, who is going under first? 

Venezuela?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/time-has-come-venezuela-may-be-default-under-48-hours (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/time-has-come-venezuela-may-be-default-under-48-hours)

Or Illinois?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10681.msg167222;topicseen#msg167222 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10681.msg167222;topicseen#msg167222)

Perhaps the better questions are:  Does it matter and WGAF?

 Ill. won years ago.  Venezuela a strong second.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2017, 07:37:30 AM
Oil-rich nation + socialism = bust

https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuela-goes-bust-1510703305 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuela-goes-bust-1510703305)

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2017, 11:53:14 AM
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/come-visit-lovely-venezuela-the-newest-workers-paradise-t19823.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/come-visit-lovely-venezuela-the-newest-workers-paradise-t19823.html)

 ::laughonfloor::

I really think the libiots are missing a we-are-the-world/kum-bay-ya exploitation opportunity!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on December 15, 2017, 07:16:52 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/14/flood-venezuelans-fleeing-their-depressed-country/941463001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/14/flood-venezuelans-fleeing-their-depressed-country/941463001/)

While many exiles had fled to the United States, surging numbers, like the Sequieras, now head to other Latin American nations. The change probably stems from President Trump’s tough anti-immigration stance and the fact that fewer Venezuelans can afford the airfare.

 ::thumbsup::

But no doubt many of those hitting Mexico will be ushered to our border...gotta get that wall up.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: NHTom on April 16, 2018, 03:41:41 PM
Venezuelan protester gets too close to crashed motorcycle.

Still, it illustrates their struggle.

http://www.bjp-online.com/2018/04/qa-ronaldo-schemidt-world-press-photo-of-the-year-nominee/ (http://www.bjp-online.com/2018/04/qa-ronaldo-schemidt-world-press-photo-of-the-year-nominee/)
(http://www.bjp-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/006_World-Press-Photo-of-the-Year-Nominee_Ronaldo-Schemidt-Agence-France-Presse-840x560.jpg)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2018, 08:23:34 AM
Screaming Alpha...I only wish that on my enemies.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on July 26, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
Pretty stark visual -

(https://images2.imgbox.com/17/f9/iZZSIU8E_o.jpg)

And the insaniacs dominating the Demonrat Party blindly lust for it here!

Uncle Joe says run with it.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/21/17/JdPpKgXn_o.jpg)

 ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2018, 09:49:27 AM
Dear Lord these people are imbeciles!  Socialism kills, it kills the brain, it kills the soul...it will eventually kill everything it touches.

32,714% inflation...two days ago, has to be worse today...and the answer for socialists is adding then taking away zeroes on the shatwipe they call bolivars?

https://www.wral.com/swamped-in-inflation-venezuela-will-cut-five-zeros-from-currency/17774600/ (https://www.wral.com/swamped-in-inflation-venezuela-will-cut-five-zeros-from-currency/17774600/)

Still...socialists here are just as stupid, just as hive-minded, just as foolish...so do not think for a nano-second "it could never happen here".
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: WilliamVA on August 17, 2018, 01:05:14 PM
Dear Lord these people are imbeciles!  Socialism kills, it kills the brain, it kills the soul...it will eventually kill everything it touches.

32,714% inflation...two days ago, has to be worse today...and the answer for socialists is adding then taking away zeroes on the shatwipe they call bolivars?

https://www.wral.com/swamped-in-inflation-venezuela-will-cut-five-zeros-from-currency/17774600/ (https://www.wral.com/swamped-in-inflation-venezuela-will-cut-five-zeros-from-currency/17774600/)

Still...socialists here are just as stupid, just as hive-minded, just as foolish...so do not think for a nano-second "it could never happen here".

Lord sounds like Germany after WWI,  need a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread.  Taking the zero's off it doesn't make it any less worthless.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2018, 03:05:02 PM
Contagion...

Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/argentine-peso-collapse-accelerates-macris-imf-begging-backfires (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/argentine-peso-collapse-accelerates-macris-imf-begging-backfires)

What do they have in common?

Socialism.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2018, 10:33:49 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/americas/donald-trump-venezuela-military-coup.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/americas/donald-trump-venezuela-military-coup.html)

So? 

Goebbels Media paper of record NY Slimes butthurt because those regimes they list are all their murderous socialist pals...while they openly support a coup against Trump over political differences, highlighting their esteem for the democrat process...

Cannot wait for God to sort them all out...

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on September 08, 2018, 11:39:53 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/americas/donald-trump-venezuela-military-coup.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/world/americas/donald-trump-venezuela-military-coup.html)

So? 

Goebbels Media paper of record NY Slimes butthurt because those regimes they list are all their murderous socialist pals...while they openly support a coup against Trump over political differences, highlighting their esteem for the democrat process...

Cannot wait for God to sort them all out...


  They gonna have a lotta splainin to do.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2019, 08:15:13 AM
Getting nastier for Maduro et al...

https://www.apnews.com/7d3d2ed7d5ae45dcad96baf0286cbfa6 (https://www.apnews.com/7d3d2ed7d5ae45dcad96baf0286cbfa6)

https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Opposition-launches-protests-to-oust-Maduro-as-13554431.php (https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Opposition-launches-protests-to-oust-Maduro-as-13554431.php)

"Backed by Russia, China and Cuba, Maduro has ordered the arrest, torture and exile of scores of opposition politicians."

Well, when I think Russia, China and Cuba...I think freedom, liberty, sanity, human rights, civil rights...

Oh wait, no I don't!

Have to press the issue, exploit fractures...turn this into a full-blown rebellion.

And who knows, might inspire others to do likewise?   ::praying::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: ToddF on January 24, 2019, 07:21:17 AM
This isn't going to be over until he's against a wall and shot.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 24, 2019, 07:47:27 AM
Might be getting closer to that.   ::whoohoo::

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1087936909211561984 (https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1087936909211561984)

Statue of tHugo Chavez going up in flames...Maduro could be next!

(https://images2.imgbox.com/3b/a8/K0csUCpP_o.gif)

 ::bustamove::

People getting tired of that crap.

 ::thumbsup::

US and others are recognizing Guiado not Maduro...and not taking military options off the table (https://wctrib.com/news/world/4561031-us-recognizes-venezuelan-opposition-leader-interim-president)...and Dear Leader Maduro responds by severing relations with the US (like that ass had any!) and and some Putin fop is warning against any US intervention (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-warns-u-s-against-military-intervention-venezuela-n962091) but what Putin and the rest of the Rooskies and their Chi-Com and Cuban Commie pals need to understand is that the Americas are OUR backyard, we invoke the Putin Doctrine and claim hegemony over all the Americas...so crawl back to your mongoloid huts and hug your nuts or we'll chop 'em off!

Love to see those backbirth idiots try to overextend themselves.  Kicking the piss out of them and their pals might just be the right distraction at the right time for the right reason and end up being wins across the board.

ETA -

Will ya just look at all those right-wing extremists rejecting tHugo 2.0 and siding with Guiado?!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxny2UwW0AAlfCR.jpg)

https://twitter.com/StrategicNews1/status/1088167807257321472/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/StrategicNews1/status/1088167807257321472/photo/1)

https://twitter.com/lumworld (https://twitter.com/lumworld)

 :D
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 25, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
More food for thought.

Occluded-Cortex...wants a 70% marginal tax rate...

(https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/10/Ocasio-VZ.jpeg)

...that exceeds even the brilliance of the tHugo socialists in Venezuela...you know what is happening in Venezuela?

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/garbage-can-venezuela.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxt2EsZWkAA7Kds.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxnfTKxXcAgyuB3.jpg)

Mmm...socialism, and Occluded-Cortex wants it in full here.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/bf/ab/EVC7jTH4_o.jpg)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/ae/2d/jjSn1GXa_o.gif)

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Pandora on January 25, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
There are a few of them -- the "elected" sorts and the bureaucrats -- that need to go.

She wants socialism and 'medicare for all'?  This is what she'll impose on us ........

https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2016/05/15/world/americas/venezuelas-public-health-emergency.html (https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2016/05/15/world/americas/venezuelas-public-health-emergency.html)

... but not her and her cohorts, no; socialism is for 'the people', never for the socialists.

(Yes, I know it's a NYT link; go look anyway.)  Via https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1088331818468659200 (https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1088331818468659200)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 25, 2019, 11:12:24 AM
Yeah...surprised they even posted that...I guess like most elites they figure they personally, like you say...will not be subject to that horror...just the 90% that don't count for squat.

An ER like that is hard to distinguish from a morgue...

Not surprised James is seizing the opportunity to shove it in faces...I can see the Goebbels Acolytes at Twitter banning him for daring to expose socialisms ills...and with pics via NYTs!!!

Goldangemall to Hell!!!

ETA - Oh, BTW - the NY Slimes we know - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,16870.new.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,16870.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 28, 2019, 08:54:18 AM
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/venezuelans-hand-message-of-amnesty-as-maduro-speaks-from-fort (https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/venezuelans-hand-message-of-amnesty-as-maduro-speaks-from-fort)

Getting interesting now.  With a crimp on funds Maduro will be depleted quickly and then is Russia, China whoever going to provide what he needs to keep bribing the military?  The rank and file likely just getting crumbs are more numerous, this could erupt if it comes down to a numbers game.

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: DocTrock on January 29, 2019, 09:38:19 AM
It's up to 'merica to interfere in this election and make sure the right dictator is put into office.   Sanctions, community organizing the CIA way,  carrots, sticks......whatever interference 'merica can put into play in order to get the government they want.   No holds barred.

Question:  If socialism is the cause for Venezeula's demise,  how come Norway is doing so well?  They are socialist in pretty much the same way Venezuela used to be, before they spiraled down.

Also, if socialism is the cause for Venezeula's ills.....what will be the result of socialism in 'merica?

I wonder if anyone here knows the history of US intervention in Venezuela?  Does anyone here know about 'merica's decades long interventions in Latin America in general?   
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 29, 2019, 10:08:22 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2jxs3c.jpg)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 29, 2019, 10:14:03 AM
Question:  If socialism is the cause for Venezeula's demise,  how come Norway is doing so well?  They are socialist in pretty much the same way Venezuela used to be, before they spiraled down.


  Yup the U.S. is responsible for Chavez and now Maduro.  What I can't figure out is how Maduro mishandled Socialism the way he did ? It should have been a slam dunk I mean it works so well everywhere else. 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 29, 2019, 10:27:57 AM
  If socialism is the cause for Venezeula's demise,  how come Norway is doing so well? 

Is it the brown people?
no wait.. they have different color money and that made the difference!
No, wait, is it because Norway isn't a fully socialist country -  has been backing off its socialist policies for decades, has corporate  tax rates commensurate with that of the United States and its Government spending as a percentage of per-capita is on par with the US and has a  growing private sector with many startups - that is allowed to compete even with the state controlled  companies in the oil industry ?
Is it because the two nations have wildly different cultures and and customs and a huge differences in demographic  diversity?
 Is it because they use the same quasi-fascist model of outsourced socialism as the US which declines more slowly? ( http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/09/how-government-outsourced-socialism.html (http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/09/how-government-outsourced-socialism.html))  - part 2 is less on point, but still worth the time  .. https://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/09/how-government-outsourced-socialism_24.html (https://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/09/how-government-outsourced-socialism_24.html)


But other than that , an  apples to apples comparison to be sure.

But yes, Oil can pay for a lot of socialism. I do wonder how he f**ked that up.
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7944/562/400/Norway_without_oil.0.jpg)


Meanwhile

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-everything-support-maduro-venezuelan-government/29739552.html (https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-everything-support-maduro-venezuelan-government/29739552.html)

(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/it1DIgTgyAJA/v1/760x-1.png)



Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2019, 11:15:09 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2jxs3c.jpg)

Should just stop right there.

Oh, and to add to your other comments Norway has also benefited from over half a century of protection by American taxpayers via NATO while Venezuela has gotten nothing much from the Little Colonel in Russia and even less form Cuba.

(https://images3.imgbox.com/f8/bd/PlEvHS5Y_o.gif)

All Leftists getting butthurt over this...

https://www.weaselzippers.us/409519-us-announces-sweeping-sanctions-against-venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/409519-us-announces-sweeping-sanctions-against-venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro/)

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba0f4c89918997931ae7039c3e110d90d9c79ce65a7bf2083c84b2b97b22ed6a.jpg)

...not just Bungtool Barry.

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: DocTrock on January 29, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
I bet none of you have ever met anyone from either Norway or Venezuela.   

Therefore, none of you have ever considered how other people view these things....people who don't just watch Fox News and read only right-wing commentators posing as conservatives.   People who live there, speak the language and remember what happened and when.

Socialism is indeed a scourge to all humanity....which is why it is being implemented into every aspect of 'merican life, from schools, to all things economic, healthcare, etc.   So, if you're going to blame other nations for being socialist idiots----which I agree with----you've got to blame your own country for the same reasons.

Now, granted, there are degrees of socialism....Canada isn't the same as Norway.  But Norway has a great deal in common with Venezuela!   

Sanctions against Venezuela are as much to blame for it's demise as the lack of 'merican sanctions on Norway is to "blame" for their success.    The standard of living in Venezuela is tragic....while the "other" socialist nation in question, Norway, has the highest standard of living in the world!    How can this be?

Meanwhile, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTE0SQA2jU8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTE0SQA2jU8) 

'merica has taken all Venezuelan assets and "transfered" them to Guaido.  In addition, Bolton says the US will take Venezuela's oil!   

Ya'll can blame socialism all day long, but the fact is that 'merica has been sanctioning the demise of Venezuela since the day Chavez was elected.   Hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 29, 2019, 01:49:49 PM

I think the US should butt out. We get all butt hurt when the Russians post on FB during the election then turn around and massively interfere in VZ politics. Maduro sucks. Maybe humanitarian aid is appropriate at some point.  Let the other countries in South America deal with him as they get the fallout from his bad govt.  Anyone in the US govt calling for 'regime change' should have their mouth washed out with soap.

Now with US sanctions Maduro will blame the US for his problems.  BTW Maduro fired the oil workers when they stood up to him years ago. Maduro hired his cronies to replace them and they did not know anything.

The US is sanctioning so many countries that they are developing work arounds.  The Chinese and Russian govts will come out ahead on this as they act in their own best interests.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 29, 2019, 01:59:45 PM

A different view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RUZmqVx_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RUZmqVx_o)

The Duran talks about VZ starting 26:00. Kinda long. An earlier longer video clip.
Geez. I don't like the commies in VZ but the US should butt out.
These guys are saying that South America is very touchy about the US interfering in national politics, due to history. They also say that the US recognized 'president' is not well known in VZ.
https://youtu.be/Fz2VT6X-A-g?t=1557 (https://youtu.be/Fz2VT6X-A-g?t=1557)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 29, 2019, 02:14:35 PM
I bet none of you have ever met anyone from either Norway or Venezuela.   

I  was in Sales.  I have been most places. Norway in particular since I have extended family there. They , by the way, don't consider themselves socialist.
And then back to "standard of living"  - like that was a directly measurable quantity and not subjective at all. For me, owning a gun  so I can protect my own family is part of my standard of living.  Not being subject to insanely high taxation so I could have "free healthcare" and other such Free services , and can instead spend my money on the things I want would be another.  "Standard of Living" is a value  based proposition,  but let me guess, your definition thereof trumps all others, because shut up. And we are already well aware of America's socialist problem, but you knew that , because you have been told that numerous times. Why bring it up? How it is it relevant here? Just want us to say America isn't perfect and doesn't always act on the international stage for the best of all, and instead for its own perceived interests?  ? We already have said so.  What is foolish is  to think ithat Russia or China are siding with Maduro for any reason other then they feel it will further their own self interests, or that they wouldn't, if given the economic clout to do so, also use embargoes as weapons.  Nor is the US involvement in VZ entirely due to internal politics there, as Putin's involvement isn't either.

Quote
"Sanctions against Venezuela are as much to blame for it's demise as the lack of 'merican sanctions on Norway is to "blame" for their success."

Citation needed.
  ( I crack myself up)
Just that fact that you are proposing a single mechanism (with no evidence at all to back up the assertion )for why Venezuela was a  disaster, while  refusing to account and control for the differences I have already pointed out  is proof enough that your view of the world is very one-sided,  childish, and simplistic ,  and demonstrates not only that you aren't  a serious thinker and that you have no wish to be one, but  that your only purpose here is to be an annoyance and a distraction  to people who are interested in serious discussions..  hey, you been over to Daily KOS yet? Those guys would just love you.

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 29, 2019, 02:22:53 PM

A brief history on US involvement in Latin America.
Whether they are right or wrong many people down their do not view the US as the good guys.  IMO Chile ended up doing well. Others not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Pandora on January 29, 2019, 02:45:40 PM
Hey guys, when you're done playing with the rubber mouse, let me know.   ::evilbat::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Pandora on January 29, 2019, 02:56:59 PM

A brief history on US involvement in Latin America.
Whether they are right or wrong many people down their do not view the US as the good guys.  IMO Chile ended up doing well. Others not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA)

According to Sanchez (notice, he's 'hispanic', he says) -- and the commenters (mostly "hispanic" I might add) -- the US, with an assist from Israel once in a while, is responsible for all the shiite that's gone on and is *still* going on all. over. the world.  Everywhere, it's the US's fault, amirite?

And, oddly enough, despite all that, people from those same countries all over the friggin world are killing themselves trying to get here illegally ... and stay "in the shadows".

So, America (that's for you DocTrock, take notice  ::saywhat:: ) is, unlike all other countries, a horrible, terrible entity, with no redeeming virtues.  At all.

Sick of hearing it, just so ya know.

eta:  And, just because I'm in a ranting mood, please be advised that the Federal US government is not the nation/country, is not the people, never was.  Whatever bad they've done elsewhere, they've done and are doing worse to us, right here at home, specifically White people.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
My wise friend Weisshaupt...crackin' me up!

"...hey, you been over to Daily KOS yet? Those guys would just love you."

(https://images2.imgbox.com/21/b1/BxKGU4on_o.jpg)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/f1/32/qVOrGIsv_o.gif)

As always...the very best humor is that which is based on reality!

(https://images3.imgbox.com/fd/09/UNmHPdAe_o.gif)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2019, 03:32:04 PM

A brief history on US involvement in Latin America.
Whether they are right or wrong many people down their do not view the US as the good guys.  IMO Chile ended up doing well. Others not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9yaYMoUFA)

According to Sanchez (notice, he's 'hispanic', he says) -- and the commenters (mostly "hispanic" I might add) -- the US, with an assist from Israel once in a while, is responsible for all the shiite that's gone on and is *still* going on all. over. the world.  Everywhere, it's the US's fault, amirite?

And, oddly enough, despite all that, people from those same countries all over the friggin world are killing themselves trying to get here illegally ... and stay "in the shadows".

So, America (that's for you DocTrock, take notice  ::saywhat:: ) is, unlike all other countries, a horrible, terrible entity, with no redeeming virtues.  At all.

Sick of hearing it, just so ya know.

eta:  And, just because I'm in a ranting mood, please be advised that the Federal US government is not the nation/country, is not the people, never was.  Whatever bad they've done elsewhere, they've done and are doing worse to us, right here at home, specifically White people.

Amen, sister! 

 ::clapping::

Why these people flee here, I don't get it...much more suitable places for these...

(https://images3.imgbox.com/79/2e/GbapQUrP_o.jpg)

...haters to go!

So, in short...all the Ameriphobes can and should without delay go eff themselves!

 ::doublebird::

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 29, 2019, 05:22:29 PM

The question is whether the US should get involved in the internal politics of VZ.
IMO VZ is a sh*thole country with a commie screwed up govt. But I have never been there.  I say butt out. There are a lot of crappy countries with dictatorial govts. Why stop with VZ?

The US getting involved provokes a negative counter reaction down there.
It will cost us money, maybe blood, and they will likely hate us for it so why bother? They will blame us for everything bad from now on. Imagine if Obama had been installed by a foreign power. Imagine if other countries recognized Al Gore as the real US president and imposed sanctions.

I don't like the MSM manufacutring crisis after crisis that we are supposed to care about.
Last month we were supposed to care because the barbaric Saudis cut some guy into pieces. That is what they do. Their religion is barbaric. Their problem.  The US armed foreign jihadis in Syria and they turned the country into ruins.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 29, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
Hey guys, when you're done playing with the rubber mouse, let me know.   ::evilbat::


  He's had days to answer a simple question and shows up on a new thread and puts out more bull.   


       ::vafancoul::   ::asskicking::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 29, 2019, 08:05:20 PM

The question is whether the US should get involved in the internal politics of VZ.


Well, that is the age old problem.  In principle, yes, its none of our business. But the US is the big kid on the playground - so the others will pick fights and form alliances  to get that title. If they take it, they will ensure it can't be taken back.  We end up in proxy wars  either its because its a resource we are trying to control, or its a resource others are trying to control to our detriment.  International Politics is a law of the jungle game, not a law and order game.  Sitting where we are we can't even begin to see the field. Its like listening to the game going on behind a wooden fence and maybe taking turns at a knothole...

There is so much crap going on behind the scenes with black ops and manipulations by all parties, you simply can't know why something is being done. Imperfect information, executives briefed with what analysts THINK is important ..  So yes, in a perfect world, we put up big shields and say to hell with the rest- but we don't have shields like that yet
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 29, 2019, 09:14:50 PM

The question is whether the US should get involved in the internal politics of VZ.


Well, that is the age old problem.  In principle, yes, its none of our business. But the US is the big kid on the playground - so the others will pick fights and form alliances  to get that title. If they take it, they will ensure it can't be taken back.  We end up in proxy wars  either its because its a resource we are trying to control, or its a resource others are trying to control to our detriment.  International Politics is a law of the jungle game, not a law and order game.  Sitting where we are we can't even begin to see the field. Its like listening to the game going on behind a wooden fence and maybe taking turns at a knothole...

There is so much crap going on behind the scenes with black ops and manipulations by all parties, you simply can't know why something is being done. Imperfect information, executives briefed with what analysts THINK is important ..  So yes, in a perfect world, we put up big shields and say to hell with the rest- but we don't have shields like that yet

 And in doing that we turn our backs on people that are eating their pets to survive.  When we get involved were the bad guys when we don't get involved we don't care so damned if we do and damned if we don't.


   We can't even build a wall but we can control our part of the hemisphere so screw them and get that POS out of office and give the people a chance to make it and stay the hell home instead of trying to come here.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2019, 07:22:54 AM
The question is whether the US should get involved in the internal politics of VZ.

Russia is...and the Lil' Colonel in violation of his own Putin Manifest Destiny and his countrymen are NO WHERE NEAR VENEZUELA!

So why should those self-interest-driven mongoloids get to play and we can't?  Hmmm?!

Fair is fair now!   ::oldman::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2019, 08:48:39 AM
Heh...the shell game...and the Lil' Colonel got his filthy lucre!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-30/maduro-says-hes-open-talks-gold-mysteriously-disappears-venezeulas-vaults (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-30/maduro-says-hes-open-talks-gold-mysteriously-disappears-venezeulas-vaults)

Ahhh, those altruistic Russians...can always count on consistent behavior with them.

And now Maduro is pleading for survival...

(https://images3.imgbox.com/80/45/Fo6FYQkJ_o.gif)

Plea?

(https://images2.imgbox.com/09/7d/YfXsy0Ub_o.gif)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 30, 2019, 09:30:45 AM

   We can't even build a wall but we can control our part of the hemisphere so screw them and get that POS out of office and give the people a chance to make it and stay the hell home instead of trying to come here.

Yeah.  That.
It is irresponsible of us to even attempt to fix other nations, when we will be unable to stay that course over the long haul.
Iraq had periods where things were getting better, only to have them destroyed - deliberately - by Democrats so they can maintain their narrative.
They so need to be right, that even if GWB had left them a perfectly functioning middle eastern paradise - they would sabotage it and destroy all of those lives just so they can say "See!  it was a disaster and we should never have gone in there or helped anyone"

Nation Building takes decades of constant effort and the United States can no longer produce that constant focus, and instead any progress will be sabotaged as soon as a Democrat has the power to do so. We can't even secure our own border and for the same reason - and we will soon be involved in our own war.  The real question  then is how much are China and Russia going to mess with the United States when that occurs?

I saw some evidence that this whole Covington thing was started by a bot account and promoted by bot accounts till the MSM took the bait. It is very likely that whole event was a psy-op.  Could have been Russia, China, Democrats or even Trump himself..  who knows .. but I beleive there are people actively tryin to start our war.. and  fan the hate ( and really, it doesn't take much to hate people who call for kids to be locked in a school and burned alive because of a hat and a smile;  it doesn't take much to hate people who say "You work and toil and earn bread, and I’ll eat it"; it doesn't take much  to hate people who want to make you subservient to them based on skin color, or religion or sex. ) 

  Such a war would leave Russia and China pretty much free to do as they please, or even to take sides and participate in ours.  Is John Titor's story about Russia nuking Cities that far fetched? Would American rebels be glad of it? Or maybe they just EMP the entire nation and stand aside till we bleed out enough we can no longer defend against ground troops. Who will complain? The UN?  The EU?  Your strongly worded objection is noted. Here ...absorb more Islamic refugees

Though it would probably be cheaper to simply trade with the survivors - don't worry, the big Chinese and Russian corporations are happy to come in and rebuild and provide jobs. All your base are belong to us. No need to use tanks when you can get the survivors to work for you ( for peanuts)

Doc is probably paid to be here to fan that flame, not realizing that most of us are sold ( don't fall asleep at the trainings and  briefings Doc!)  - we hate our current government - because it isn't the government we signed up for. Of course, it seems he wants us to go a step further and hate our founders, our principles, and ourselves.. which may be part of his mission goals, but I don't see it happening here.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Well said, some people cut and run and never come back or say a nice word about the people who stay on principles because doing so may be misinterpreted as endorsing corrupt institutions...some lack courage...physical, intellectual...spiritual.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 30, 2019, 12:17:00 PM

The question is whether the US should get involved in the internal politics of VZ.


Well, that is the age old problem.  In principle, yes, its none of our business. But the US is the big kid on the playground - so the others will pick fights and form alliances  to get that title. If they take it, they will ensure it can't be taken back.  We end up in proxy wars  either its because its a resource we are trying to control, or its a resource others are trying to control to our detriment.  International Politics is a law of the jungle game, not a law and order game.  Sitting where we are we can't even begin to see the field. Its like listening to the game going on behind a wooden fence and maybe taking turns at a knothole...

There is so much crap going on behind the scenes with black ops and manipulations by all parties, you simply can't know why something is being done. Imperfect information, executives briefed with what analysts THINK is important ..  So yes, in a perfect world, we put up big shields and say to hell with the rest- but we don't have shields like that yet

 And in doing that we turn our backs on people that are eating their pets to survive.  When we get involved were the bad guys when we don't get involved we don't care so damned if we do and damned if we don't.


   We can't even build a wall but we can control our part of the hemisphere so screw them and get that POS out of office and give the people a chance to make it and stay the hell home instead of trying to come here.
I used to trust the US govt on foreign affairs much more. After the USSR fell and we expanded NATO I lost a lot of trust. I have dug into Libya and Syria some and think the US govt did very bad things with very bad results plus they lie all the time. The state dept sucks at their day job. Same with Ukraine but not as bad.

I trusted the US govt on Vietnam and both Iraq wars BTW. I was busy with life and maybe too trusting.

I don't have time to dig into VZ or Iran. I just don't trust the US govt. They made things much worse in Syria, Libya, and Ukraine.  If VZ was on the US border it would be different in terms of US involvement. Bolton just said we are transfering VZ assets to some guy who was never elected and that the US should should pump their oil.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 30, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2019, 01:10:33 PM
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/b1/cU3f2rbx_o.jpg)

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: DocTrock on January 30, 2019, 05:08:37 PM
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/b1/cU3f2rbx_o.jpg)

Nailed it.
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

Who do these Venezuelan's think they are acting as if the oil in their own country is theirs?  Everyone knows the oil in their country belongs to 'merica.

Well, not everyone knows that actually.  Only neoconservative housebound, half-blind, greedy, prescription drug addled folks believe that other people's property is theirs.   BTW, this type of thinking is essentially the main reason the 'merican government is hated around the world.

Image if Mexico said California was theirs!  They have a better bogus claim to CA than Trump has to Venezuela's oil.   
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 30, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/b1/cU3f2rbx_o.jpg)

Nailed it.
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

Who do these Venezuelan's think they are acting as if the oil in their own country is theirs?  Everyone knows the oil in their country belongs to 'merica.

Well, not everyone knows that actually.  Only neoconservative housebound, half-blind, greedy, prescription drug addled folks believe that other people's property is theirs.   BTW, this type of thinking is essentially the main reason the 'merican government is hated around the world.

Image if Mexico said California was theirs!  They have a better bogus claim to CA than Trump has to Venezuela's oil.

 Did they have a contract for their oil? I am not the American gov. answer one question.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 30, 2019, 07:35:06 PM
  Only neoconservative housebound, half-blind, greedy, prescription drug addled folks believe that other people's property is theirs.   BTW, this type of thinking is essentially the main reason the 'merican government is hated around the world.


You do know if you sign an agreement giving others rights to your oil resources in exchange for something else they aren't "yours" anymore?
Or is that commonly how you treat other people? Promise to go into business with them using their knowledge and capital and then claim it all belongs to you?

And just so we are clear.. are you suggesting that we on this forum are "neoconservative housebound, half-blind, greedy, prescription drug addled folks" who believe other people's property belongs to us? Or are you just making up a new class of strawman that has no bearing on actual people or real life so you can feel superior to it?

(http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/virtue-signaling-do-they-believe-the-BS.jpg)

Where do you think your responses fall ?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg/2000px-Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg.png)

 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Pandora on January 30, 2019, 09:23:35 PM
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

(https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/b1/cU3f2rbx_o.jpg)

Nailed it.
  The oil you're talking about was contracted to American oil companies but Chavez nationalized the oil company and sent the ones that drilled and brought the oil to market lost their equipment and investment .  They filed suit and won in court and still he didn't pay . 


   But we keep buying their oil like fools.  Now it looks like we may stop importing and let then sink or swim.

Who do these Venezuelan's think they are acting as if the oil in their own country is theirs?  Everyone knows the oil in their country belongs to 'merica.

Well, not everyone knows that actually.  Only neoconservative housebound, half-blind, greedy, prescription drug addled folks believe that other people's property is theirs.   BTW, this type of thinking is essentially the main reason the 'merican government is hated around the world.

Image if Mexico said California was theirs!  They have a better bogus claim to CA than Trump has to Venezuela's oil.

Spell America that way again and I will ban your can right outta here. Clear?
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2019, 07:32:50 AM
I wonder how much Putin is paying his troll?  And is it by days actively harassing people least likely to believe anything it regurgitates?

What a way to live.  If I actually gave a damn I might have sympathy for such a creature, as it is...

Meh

See this?

Look like the DeepState, Coats, Putin, Iran & Doc all on the same Obama talking points...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/oops-iran-announces-transfer-of-uranium-yellowcake-day-after-dni-director-dan-coats-refutes-trump-insists-iran-is-not-pursuing-nukes/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/oops-iran-announces-transfer-of-uranium-yellowcake-day-after-dni-director-dan-coats-refutes-trump-insists-iran-is-not-pursuing-nukes/)

And their pal Chuck U Schumer is calling for another coup attempt...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/schumer-urges-intelligence-community-leaders-to-stage-an-intervention-with-president-trump/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/schumer-urges-intelligence-community-leaders-to-stage-an-intervention-with-president-trump/)

Yeah...enemies are all too easy to identify today, their friends being a huge dead giveaway...
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 31, 2019, 10:43:55 AM
  Listen asswipe the American Gov. didn't contract the oil you can't be this stupid. It was a contract between their government and a private company that held up their end of the contact.   The private company filed suit and won and still got stiffed by Venezuela and the American Gov. still allowed oil trade with Venezuela and still allowed it NOW and only NOW has the Gov. gotten involved in this and rightfully so to block their damned oil from coming in.

  And you want to blame Trump for their crimes?? 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: DocTrock on January 31, 2019, 01:23:34 PM
Ban me now. 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 31, 2019, 01:54:11 PM
Ban me now.

(https://pics.me.me/thumb_im-just-a-notch-on-your-bedpost-but-youre-just-21326171.png)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on January 31, 2019, 02:38:14 PM

BTW I don't kjnow much about VZ. I do not have time to learn. If I wanted to learn I would seek out different sources.  I do not trust the US govt or the MSM. I believe everything bad about Maduro because it rings true and is not hard to believe.  Sounds like a typical socialist in Latin America. I have no problem believing that the VZ govt seized foreign assets.

I can see where neighboring countries would want to intervene because the crap is spilling outside of VZ borders.  IMO the US state dept has destabilized too much of the world already. I don't want them to make things worse.  I hope the VZ military takes over for a while when things get even worse.

One week after the MSM started talking abot the 'Russian collusion' I was surprised they were still talking about it. They still are years later. They are nuts.

I like doc because he brings a different point of view.  I don't have to buy into all of it.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 31, 2019, 04:54:57 PM

BTW I don't kjnow much about VZ. I do not have time to learn. If I wanted to learn I would seek out different sources.  I do not trust the US govt or the MSM. I believe everything bad about Maduro because it rings true and is not hard to believe.  Sounds like a typical socialist in Latin America. I have no problem believing that the VZ govt seized foreign assets.

I can see where neighboring countries would want to intervene because the crap is spilling outside of VZ borders.  IMO the US state dept has destabilized too much of the world already. I don't want them to make things worse.  I hope the VZ military takes over for a while when things get even worse.

One week after the MSM started talking abot the 'Russian collusion' I was surprised they were still talking about it. They still are years later. They are nuts.

I like doc because he brings a different point of view.  I don't have to buy into all of it.

If Doc wanted to discuss, provide evidence, and engage in genuine and sincere debate, I suspect his point of view would be more appreciated. Instead he ignores the challenges to his arguments, calls names, and generally seems to be here to America bash first, and to discuss issues seriously second, if at all.  You are in some ways echoing his point of view, but no one has much to say back because you offer it as genuine sentiment, provided links to watch and are consistent in supporting your view, and we see the truth in it.. 

I don't think anyone here is saying America was always right in every action and in every place, and in every occasion we have interacted with a foreign government  - nor do I think anyone here is suggesting that our government can be trusted. But we also don't have the full picture, CIA briefings  or classified information. World politics  is a law of the jungle game - and yes, smaller powers are used and abused by larger powers as pawns. I don't blame any smaller nation for resenting American ( or Russian, or Chinese, or European....)  interference in their affairs or in the affairs of their neighbors  ( especially when  they bear the brunt  of the consequences) 

International politics  a world of crappy choices, and the right or moral choice may simply not be on the table , or it is the the imperfect information in the briefings make it seem it isn't,  or the perception of risk pushes toward immoral actions to mitigate disaster.  But I think we can safely assume we are instigating immoral actions to protect our perceived interests in the world all of the time, and that the other powers are doing the same. I have talked personally to quite a few special forces and ex-special forces men and women who can confirm this.  They always say "I can't tell you what was done, but you don't know half of the sh*t that is going on in the world, and  its probably best you don't." And most of the time the special forces executing such missions don't have the big picture either. There is no accountability , and humans in that environment and under such constraints eventually abuse their power in they ways they can justify to themselves.  So yes, the United States does unfair, immoral and bad sh*t overseas, and nations that take offense.. are probably doing the same and playing this faux veneer of international community to their best advantage in the media and to the masses. 

I certainly wouldn't support a US Military adventure in Venezuela given what I know, nor do I even think Sanctions are a very good idea, but to some degree the Russian and Chinese involvement are pushing those hands. Doc is right that the petro-dollar is what is keeping the US afloat, and  therefore controlling trade in oil and the currency paid for it  is key to keeping that going.  It is what allows the United States to export much of the inflation it is creating via borrowing (and another reason for the ill will.  The United States has abused its position with the reserve currency and therefore deserves to loose it to other hands)

Maybe China or Russia will provide a better alternative in time, or maybe it all fails at once. It will be easier for everyone if they succeed in setting up an alternate global trade system  before the US Collapse, but I am sure the "kick the can" politicians in the United States don't see it that way.  What is certain is that there are forces trying to kill Western Civilization and most of all , its emphasis on the individual,  and those forces have infiltrated every level of our society and, in fact, most societies in general.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 31, 2019, 04:56:20 PM
Ban me now.

  Go eff yourself ! as far as I'm concerned you're not worth the time or effort  to try and reason with. Born an idiot and die an idiot.  Somebody drop a hammer please.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 31, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
Not being an American is an off-sides foul, good for 5 yards.
Using the disparaging "'merica" - especially after being warned by a ref is a loss of goal and 10 yard penalty.
Trolling has flags down all across the field.

Game forfeited.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 31, 2019, 05:13:50 PM

BTW I don't kjnow much about VZ. I do not have time to learn. If I wanted to learn I would seek out different sources.  I do not trust the US govt or the MSM. I believe everything bad about Maduro because it rings true and is not hard to believe.  Sounds like a typical socialist in Latin America. I have no problem believing that the VZ govt seized foreign assets.

I can see where neighboring countries would want to intervene because the crap is spilling outside of VZ borders.  IMO the US state dept has destabilized too much of the world already. I don't want them to make things worse.  I hope the VZ military takes over for a while when things get even worse.

One week after the MSM started talking abot the 'Russian collusion' I was surprised they were still talking about it. They still are years later. They are nuts.

I like doc because he brings a different point of view.  I don't have to buy into all of it.


  Just to give you a short story on VZ.  Chavez took over an started just taking over everything including news papers and TV stations so that the only info the people got was from him. He started price fixing food to the point that it had to be sold for less that it cost to grow so guess what growers stopped growing food.

  Importers could not import because they went broke jobs went out the window and he nationalized the oil fields and started them circling the old crapper.    Thankfully he died from cancer and his right hand man took over and he decided to price fix Milk the farmers started exporting it to other countries where they could make a buck.   


   He came back and threatened them with taking their farms if they exported their Milk  They responded by killing all their cows and that ended Milk.

  No food no jobs oil exports sinking and people starving inflation that's out in orbit the place is a disaster and the people starving to the point where you can't find a dog or cat around.    Wonder where they went?

  Maduro packing on the pounds his people have lost an average of 20 pounds and he says they should thank him for making them healthier.   And Doc is calling us the criminals??   Doc is an ass! Gives no proof and answers no questions.

  He just needs to go! he's just a waste of time and air and FOS.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 31, 2019, 06:03:59 PM

  Importers could not import because they went broke jobs went out the window and he nationalized the oil fields and started them circling the old crapper.

You forgot the part where he kicked out the international workers who knew how to run the oil fields and keep the equipment in repair.. that was one of my favorite bits.  Also the part where they slaughter and eat zoo animals because that is all there is left. Or paying govt troops in toilet paper.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 31, 2019, 07:33:29 PM

  Importers could not import because they went broke jobs went out the window and he nationalized the oil fields and started them circling the old crapper.

You forgot the part where he kicked out the international workers who knew how to run the oil fields and keep the equipment in repair.. that was one of my favorite bits.  Also the part where they slaughter and eat zoo animals because that is all there is left. Or paying govt troops in toilet paper.


  After a while I get so angry about it I have to stop and walk away.  And I lose track of all of it. Thanks for the help. 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Pandora on January 31, 2019, 09:47:25 PM
Ban me now.

You could ban yourself, OR could have been more respectful of our house, but I suspect this is a play you've run in multiple other places, toward the same end.  Martyr.

Banned.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on January 31, 2019, 10:36:03 PM
Ban me now.

You could ban yourself, OR could have been more respectful of our house, but I suspect this is a play you've run in multiple other places, toward the same end.  Martyr.

Banned.


   ::curtsy4:: ::curtsy4:: 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 01, 2019, 08:52:06 AM
Poor bastard...

Overflowed with (https://images2.imgbox.com/82/47/Su1Kz1NQ_o.gif)

Suffers from (https://images3.imgbox.com/a0/d8/c0rVNei6_o.jpg)

Rolled in here all (https://images2.imgbox.com/30/95/wYlgYD4U_o.gif) & (https://images3.imgbox.com/a1/c8/FPsSKV2b_o.gif)

Thought he would get  ::grouphug::

Craved and received (https://images2.imgbox.com/a4/08/hnFykAgC_o.jpg)

Will I miss his special brand of jackass thinking? 

(https://images2.imgbox.com/bf/ab/EVC7jTH4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 01, 2019, 09:09:39 AM
What a douchebag. Thanks for dealing with him Pan.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Alphabet Soup on February 01, 2019, 09:25:22 AM
And now we shall be deprived of the latest trends of 'ruguayan fashion...

(http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/peasants.jpg)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: patentlymn on February 01, 2019, 11:54:38 AM

  Importers could not import because they went broke jobs went out the window and he nationalized the oil fields and started them circling the old crapper.

You forgot the part where he kicked out the international workers who knew how to run the oil fields and keep the equipment in repair.. that was one of my favorite bits.  Also the part where they slaughter and eat zoo animals because that is all there is left. Or paying govt troops in toilet paper.

I think he also fired the VZ oil field workers and replaced them with cronies. Maybe they went on strike.

I read about some guy who bought chicks and raised them to chickens for sale. The govt slapped price controls on him so he was losing money on each bird. He could not stay in business.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on February 01, 2019, 03:29:44 PM

  Importers could not import because they went broke jobs went out the window and he nationalized the oil fields and started them circling the old crapper.

You forgot the part where he kicked out the international workers who knew how to run the oil fields and keep the equipment in repair.. that was one of my favorite bits.  Also the part where they slaughter and eat zoo animals because that is all there is left. Or paying govt troops in toilet paper.

I think he also fired the VZ oil field workers and replaced them with cronies. Maybe they went on strike.

I read about some guy who bought chicks and raised them to chickens for sale. The govt slapped price controls on him so he was losing money on each bird. He could not stay in business.

  And we get an ass like doc trock defending this by blaming the U.S. for it.    ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 02, 2019, 09:28:14 AM
And now we shall be deprived of the latest trends of 'ruguayan fashion...

(http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/peasants.jpg)

(https://images3.imgbox.com/80/45/Fo6FYQkJ_o.gif)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 02, 2019, 10:41:58 AM
Meanwhile in the People's Paradise of Venezuela...where everything is scarce and life is cheap...where pets are food and graves are raided for the jewelry worn by the dead...and kids are snatched off the streets for being CIA conspirators...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6659555/Inside-hell-communist-heaven-ROBERT-HARDMAN-collapse-Venezuela.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6659555/Inside-hell-communist-heaven-ROBERT-HARDMAN-collapse-Venezuela.html)

...it keeps getting more medieval, more desperate and more volatile.

The inescapable end of all socialist experiments.

There is chatter that 90% of the military is opposed to Maduro...if so those pics of exercises at one lone base may constitute the core of his support...or it could be that the 90% includes a fat portion of wafflers laying low and waiting it out to see where it breaks...but the trend is towards the regime falling...time for these wafflers to make a decision...do they want to face an angry retribution-minded populace or not?
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
(http://thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/Keep_Venezuela_Poor.jpg)

(http://thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/Venezuela_Freedom_is_Dangerous.jpg)

H/T - http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/glorious-posters-to-support-venezuela-s-democratic-socialism-t20478.html (http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/glorious-posters-to-support-venezuela-s-democratic-socialism-t20478.html)

Best comment there?  This -

mi
1/29/2019, 2:52 pm

Venezuelan diet. Lose weight now, ask me how!

(https://images2.imgbox.com/06/63/FmaJct0e_o.gif)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 05, 2019, 11:21:22 AM
Roger Waters...Pink Roid.   ::bus::

Making a case for being the beta-male version of Occluded-Cortex (https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1092204990200983557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1092270298626490370&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefault%26f%3Dweaselzippers%26t_u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.weaselzippers.us%252F410144-roger-waters-rants-at-trump-youre-trying-to-destroy-venezuelas-democracy%252F%26t_d%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26t_t%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26s_o%3Ddefault%23version%3Dbc375ca08174aafcdafffefdfe6bc380)

Real democracy?!

 ::laughonfloor::

Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag there sub-imbecile!  We'll take that warning to heart!

Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: benb61 on February 05, 2019, 04:03:39 PM
Roger Waters...Pink Roid.   ::bus::

Making a case for being the beta-male version of Occluded-Cortex (https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1092204990200983557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1092270298626490370&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefault%26f%3Dweaselzippers%26t_u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.weaselzippers.us%252F410144-roger-waters-rants-at-trump-youre-trying-to-destroy-venezuelas-democracy%252F%26t_d%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26t_t%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26s_o%3Ddefault%23version%3Dbc375ca08174aafcdafffefdfe6bc380)

Real democracy?!

 ::laughonfloor::

Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag there sub-imbecile!  We'll take that warning to heart!

Well, he is from England. They have no idea what Democracy (or out Constitutional Republic) actually is.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 05, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
Roger Waters...Pink Roid.   ::bus::

Making a case for being the beta-male version of Occluded-Cortex (https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1092204990200983557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1092270298626490370&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefault%26f%3Dweaselzippers%26t_u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.weaselzippers.us%252F410144-roger-waters-rants-at-trump-youre-trying-to-destroy-venezuelas-democracy%252F%26t_d%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26t_t%3DRoger%2520Waters%2520Rants%2520At%2520Trump%253A%2520You%25E2%2580%2599re%2520Trying%2520To%2520Destroy%2520Venezuela%25E2%2580%2599s%2520Democracy%2520%257C%2520Weasel%2520Zippers%26s_o%3Ddefault%23version%3Dbc375ca08174aafcdafffefdfe6bc380)

Real democracy?!

 ::laughonfloor::

Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag there sub-imbecile!  We'll take that warning to heart!

Well, he is from England. They have no idea what Democracy (or out Constitutional Republic) actually is.

English drama bints...they're the worst! 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 10, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
I have no idea why they or us is in this  ::cussing:: NATO sh*t any more!

https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/mysterious-turkish-firm-helped-maduro-move-900-million-in-gold-1.568027 (https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/mysterious-turkish-firm-helped-maduro-move-900-million-in-gold-1.568027)

But that doesn’t mean Erdogan can’t use Turkey’s $850 billion economy, the largest in the Middle East, to help friends in need. While Sardes’s gold corridor appears to have closed in November, there are other avenues. A Sardes spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.

Erdogan traveled to Caracas in December to introduce the Venezuelan leader to Ahmet Ahlatci, chairman of one of Turkey’s largest gold refiners. The next month, Maduro’s close ally Tareck El Aissami reciprocated with a visit to an Ahlatci refiner in the central Turkish city of Corum. Turkey’s pro-government media reported that Venezuelan gold would be processed there.

That never materialized because Ahlatci was wary of falling foul of U.S. sanctions, according to a person with direct knowledge of the visit. Instead, El Aissami surveyed refining technology to try and replicate it back home, the person said, asking not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.
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Official data make it impossible to know where the Venezuelan gold ended up after it landed in Turkey. The Turkish government did not disclose the whereabouts of the gold.


Yeah.  Ask Russia, bet they know!

Don't follow the money...instead enjoy some cat-purr-cize!

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b18c3a7366924f1d1df42336d8106c6059ddaddcc78989c0dcba97c203003b54.gif)
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2019, 02:56:36 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/23/americas/venezuela-brazil-violence-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/23/americas/venezuela-brazil-violence-intl/index.html)

 ::smallestviolin::
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2019, 07:12:15 AM
Man...same BS for the last century for these socialist pussies!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6793585/Venezuelans-turn-looting-Caracas-fourth-day-power-outages.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6793585/Venezuelans-turn-looting-Caracas-fourth-day-power-outages.html)

Yankee imperialist capitalist dogs!  It's all their fault!  Socialism works!  Socialism is the future!

 ::laughonfloor::   ::rolllaughing::   ::hysterical::

The stupid is so stupid it is hilarious!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on March 11, 2019, 06:13:07 PM
  Yup we did it now watchoo gonna do beside nothing.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on March 12, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
"you just gonna stand there and bleed?"

Forget where I heard that...it fits though! 
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on March 12, 2019, 12:16:13 PM
This for AOC and the rest of the slack-jawed bug-eyed drooling socialist trash out there -

https://www.weaselzippers.us/413300-venezuelan-expat-shreds-ocasio-cortez-other-democrats-for-promoting-socialism/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/413300-venezuelan-expat-shreds-ocasio-cortez-other-democrats-for-promoting-socialism/)

And, to be sure the trigger is fully depressed...

The State Dept issued this notice -

"Like the January 24 decision to withdraw all dependents and reduce embassy staff to a minimum, this decision reflects the deteriorating situation in Venezuela as well as the conclusion that the presence of U.S. diplomatic staff at the embassy has become a constraint on U.S. policy,"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-withdrawing-remaining-staff-from-embassy-in-venezuela (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-withdrawing-remaining-staff-from-embassy-in-venezuela)

Heh, nicely put!  Let the panic begin!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: John Florida on March 12, 2019, 05:52:14 PM
  This could be a warning to Maduro that things could get really ugly for him.
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: benb61 on March 13, 2019, 10:04:06 AM
He dosen't seem to care.  Typical prog asshat, would rather see all of his people dead rather than give up power.  Same Sh!t is going to happen here if we (Americans) don't start seeing the writing on the wall.

Keep your powder dry!!
Title: Re: Venezuela goes deeper into the hyperinflation abyss
Post by: Libertas on March 19, 2019, 11:59:33 AM
This is a joke, right?

I am laughing my ass off regardless!

https://www.weaselzippers.us/414275-maduro-releases-video-to-scare-off-us-marines-and-we-are-officially-dead-now/ (https://www.weaselzippers.us/414275-maduro-releases-video-to-scare-off-us-marines-and-we-are-officially-dead-now/)

Almost Python-like...

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a18296b2af26e8144a881b69d5e6a8e3ec0fb6d332c5284e3e886e48b946de70.gif)