It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => TEOTWAWKI => Topic started by: Weisshaupt on November 04, 2015, 09:00:21 AM
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http://thirdparadigm.org/doc/45060880-When-Money-Dies.pdf (http://thirdparadigm.org/doc/45060880-When-Money-Dies.pdf)
Something in the back of my head says this might have been posted before, and if so I apologize.
ONLY the country people were surviving in Germany in any comfort: anyone who lived off the land had the readiest access to real values. It was not surprising that even when they ensured that the money receipts for their goods were no more than equivalent in purchasing power to what they were used to, they were accused of extortion --the more so if they delayed the sales of produce in the full knowledge that prices would be higher the longer they waited. Erna von Pustau went to stay in the country and asked her hosts bluntly what they were doing with all the money they were squeezing out of the townspeople. They replied candidly that they were paying off their mortgages. The principle of Mark gleich Mark had helped agriculture enormously: for the country people, landowners, farmers or peasants, life had started again. At the end of August 1922 when the mark passed 2,000 to the dollar --9,000 to the pound --a mortgage of seven or eight years' standing had been 399/4OOths paid off. When Frau von Pustau returned home the talk in the family was about prices going up, about the credits which had to be reduced, about the middle class party, about big business and the workers who always asked for more ... The contrast between country and city was so enormous that it cannot be understood by people who have not lived through it
Now imagine it in a country where the political and geographic divisions are so severe that some farmers will not send produce to market not because they are delaying it for profit, but because they genuinely want the city people dead for being totalitarian leftist bullies.
The new danger was that when the peasants finally refused to deliver produce to the towns, the towns would go and fetch it. It had happened in Austria during the blockade. It had happened in the Ruhr and the Rhineland under the provocation of French militarism and enforced idleness. Now there were reports from Saxony -unoccupied Germany — that bands of several hundred townspeople at a time had taken to riding out into the countryside on bicycles to confiscate what they needed. Anna Eisenmenger's diary included a first-hand account of the plunder of Linz and its neighbourhood in Austria —the place which Hitler regarded as his home town. She transcribed a letter from her daughter who had been staying there for a few weeks with cousins who ran a small farm with eight cows, two horses, twelve pigs and the usual poultry: I had driven with Uncle and Aunt to church at Linz. The nearer we approached the more crowded became the usually deserted high road. All kinds of odd-looking individuals met us. One man wearing three hats, one set on top of the other, and at least two coats, excited our amusement ... We met people drawing carts piled high with tinned foods of every description ... A man and a woman were seated in a ditch by the side of the road and, without the least embarrassment, were changing their very ragged garments for quite new ones. 'Hurry up', the woman shouted to us, 'or there'll be nothing left!' We did not understand this remark until we passed the first plundered shops. Peaceful Linz looked as if it had been visited by an earthquake. Furniture smashed beyond recognition littered the pavements. But not only provision shops, inns,cafes, and drapers' shops had been looted. Jewellers and watchmakers, too, had been unable to defend their wares. We saw that the inn at which Uncle and Aunt usually stopped after Mass was completely devastated. The old innkeeper caught sight of us and hurried up, almost in tears. He could not open his inn because all the furniture had been smashed and all the provisions stolen; and he strongly advised my uncle to drive home, since the ringleaders of the mob were inciting their followers to ransack the neighbourhood ... My uncle urged on the horse ... In the lane which winds to my uncle's farm ... we noticed a troop of about 80 or 100 men and and women. They were bawling and singing and driving in their midst a cart harnessed with a brown horse. Uncle exclaimed:'They're driving away Hansl and our cart!' Without another word he leapt to the ground, but could only advance slowly with his stiff leg across the field towards the road where he meant to intercept the troop ... A lorry load of gendarmes turned up at that moment. A few shots were fired, and the mob dispersed into the hills, the horse and cart left behind. In the cart I saw three slaughtered pigs. In addition, some pieces of slaughtered cows and pigs and a few dead hens were lying in an untidy heap. 'My God, my God', wailed my aunt. 'What will things be like at home?' ... Two gendarmes accompanied us in order to ascertain the damage. 'If only they didn't always destroy everything', said one of them. 'As for their being hungry, that's not surprising'. We were prepared for the worst. The gates of the farmyard were wide open. There was not a sign of the servant girls. A pig seriously injured but still living was lying in its own blood in the yard. The other pigs had run out into the road. The cow-shed was drenched in blood. One cow had been slaughtered where it stood and the meat torn from its bones. The monsters had slit up the udder of the finest milch cow, so that she had to be put out of her misery immediately. In the granary the store of grain and fodder were in a state of wild confusion ... a rag soaked with petrol was still smouldering to show what these beasts had intended. In the kitchen-living room of which my aunt was so proud not a thing had been left whole. Uncle estimates the damage at 100,000 peace kronen, and no insurance company will pay him any compensation for his loss. The towns were starving. The countryside had had a bumper harvest, but there it remained because of the farmers' steadfast refusal to take paper for it at any price
Okay now fast forward to 2015 America. How many of these people could ride a bike 10 miles? 20miles? How many of them will be armed?
How many will be ready to tangle with the local farmers - armed and ready to kill? How often must this happen for the rural folk to form a militia? ( if they haven't already) How well will these towns people do on the return journey- laden with loot when the farmers, who know the county side better, descend upon them to take back what is theirs? (and you have to respond in that way, or the looters will come again..)
Of course those who come for the food might just be National Guard or Military troops, and they will probably get wat they want. Then what?
Why produce more than you need in that case? Patriotism? Compassion for those poor transgender, trans-race, anti-christian , lying Libtards in the cities?
Its just going to get really, really ugly.
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If you have stuff, the looters will come for it, the closer you are to looter centers the more at risk you will be in terms of numbers coming at you and in terms of earlier in the destructive migration process, and if you can't fight off the numbers coming at you then you better be able to hide from them or otherwise divert their attention, the ones that survive entering the wild areas are likely to be battle-tested and tougher to put down.
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Why produce more than you need in that case?
Why produce anything?
They will take what you need as well as any extra
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So they may think.
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Why produce more than you need in that case?
Why produce anything?
They will take what you need as well as any extra
They may take it, but I can guarandamntee you it won't be easy for them. Not as long as I, my wife, or my boys have a breath left in us.
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They may take it, but I can guarandamntee you it won't be easy for them. Not as long as I, my wife, or my boys have a breath left in us.
Well that's the thing.. The Weimar govt had outside forces ( treaty of Versailles) to blame for the monetary trouble ( reparations didn't help, but they weren't the cause. The Wiemar govt was full on socialist) Out govt is going to blame who? China? The Illegal horde of immigrants they just let in? In Wiemar the urbanites began to resent the farmers because of "price gouging" and with-holding goods form market ( the longer they waited the more they made) - and when the cities reached starvation levels, they took out after the farmers to steal things as a mob - not to kill. Just to get their "just due" after the prices they had to pay. The farmers didn't hate the city folk ( they were their best customers and paid off thier mortgages) and the city folk were just desperate.
Here, Obama and company have worked hard to make one group hate the other - especially with the stupid gun laws which are designed to do nothing other than to persecute the "bitter clingers" - The smaller state secessionist movements you are seeing in California and Colorado and other areas with large areas of (conservative controlled) land under the control of a few dense liberal cities are testament to that. And the urbanites really think that without their tax dollars the rural areas would be in trouble. As if we couldn't grade our own dirt roads, defend ourselves, and put out our own fires. The degree that rural people are left on their own and independent of the govt. is simply beyond their comprehension. Funniest part was when they point out the welfare the rural counties hand out. And if they stopped? Oh right, those people would flood the streets of the nearest place that didn't stop and the counties they left would not be poorer for having them gone, especially as that frees up housing for conservatives escaping from the liberal controlled city as the useless parasites pour in.
No matter how I war game this, the Fed will be relying on large corporate farms to feed the cities. Raiding the smaller farms will not be worth their while and will force a full civil war just as surely as if they came for the guns. Does it matter if they take your gun or your ability to eat? Seems like you have to fight in either case. As Rome fell they tried to make Farmers stay on and work their their lands under pain of death. It didn't work then either, and that was farmers with pitchforks against armored centurions with swords.
As for roving gangs.. how many will even know that food doesn't come "from the store?" If they found a chicken, a pig or a cow, would they know how to kill and butcher one? Most of the people I run into aren't smart enough to use google when they don't know how to do something. They call the plumber, electrician or handyman. I suspect many will just fall into habitual drug use while watching their ipads and waiting for the govt cheese to show up. Yes the ones that do show up will probably be battle hardened, but I suspect they will be relatively few and picking on most isolated farmhouse they can find. ( which is what they did in Argentina - there is such a thing as too rural for teotwawki. )